Who else getting real tired of Bojack's shit?

>>84924430
People don't change because they want to, they do so they can live, but sometimes there's no will to.

>>84924430
Everyone, including Bojack.

>>84924430
He is ok. The last season was weak. They don't know what to do with him.

>>84924430
That's too much, man.

What happened exactly?

>>84925517
Sarah-Lynn went clean then Bojack lost all his friends but her so he got her back into partying and then the two of them went on a 44-day long bender which ended in Sarah-Lynn's death

>>84925897
She was literally killed by Bo-jack.

>>84924430
Todd and Princess Caroline.

awful show. it's just Duckman but bad.

>>84925897
Fuck, Sarah Lynn was at fault.
She's a grown woman. Yeah she was sober, but that wasn't because she wanted to change. Her whole house was full of booze and drugs.

>>84927268
she had a problem, and went clean for 90 days or however long it was in the show, then Bojack came along and offered her an opportunity to jump right back into her addictions. He was an enabler.

>>84927367
Yeah, but she could have said no. Instead she jumped right into the opportunity, she was waiting for someone to ask her to party
She didn't wanted to be any better

>>84925897
>>84925940
White knighting a fictional character is a bad look.
She literally told him to call her when he was ready to party, that she was only getting clean to get a better high when she got back into it, and she stocked the house to go wild when he called.

>>84927367
9 months.

And to be fair, she flat out said in an earlier episode that she was only going sober to reset her tolerance, and that all Bojack had to do was say the word and she'd jump right off the wagon.

>>84927367
You're making it sound like she was going sober to better herself, even though in the scene she said this in, she was painting her nails while driving and crashed her car.

After admitting that she was only going clean because it made hopping back on way stronger, and she needed a bigger thrill.

And then took more drugs than she could handle because she wanted to just party again when she couldn't even handle being sober long enough to get a better high.

Yeah, Bojack didn't kill anyone, this was all her choice.

>>84924430
Bojack is like Archer but 10X the narcissism.

>>84927413
It seems like after she found out she won that Oscar she had an epiphany of some sorts and was rethinking her life choices.
I'm not sure she'd end up changing her ways had Bojack not called her to party that night, but it possible she could've.

>>84927818
it was to late. she already took the drug.

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R.I.P.

>>84927413
and then she snorted a drug called Bo-Jack that KILLED her LITERALLY.

>>84927534
>>84927413
Although it is heavily implied that she went off the deep end when BoJack visited her at the top of her fame to see if he could get her to be on his show.

>>84928738
>a drug called BoJack
That's like saying "a drug called Pineapple Express". It was heroin. BoJack was just the name of that specific batch.

>>84929192
You're seriously going to deny the blatant symbolism?

It's so direct I hesitate to even call it symbolism.

>>84929192
and that specific batch killed her.

>>84924430
I really thought that things would have gone better for Bojack after seeing Season 2 finale. So yes, it really upsets me that he fucking ruin his own shit once again.

literally everyone

>>84924430
>Who else getting real tired of Bojack's shit?

Sarah-Lynn sure did, she was deadtired.

>>84927818
>It seems like after she found out she won that Oscar she had an epiphany of some sorts and was rethinking her life choices.

They both were. Bojack realized that what made him happy was Sarah Lynn. They probably wouldn't have gotten better had she lived, but they both would have stopped being miserable.

>>84928683
>I wanna be an architect
;_;

Why did the second shittiest person give me the most feels this season?

They also killed Todd, but we aren't going to talk about that, won't we?

>>84925897
She was only sober so she could get a massive high when she started using again. Dyewts?>>84925897

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I'll say it again.

There's a large, missed, oppertunity in showing all the kinky, fetish sex all these beings do to one another. We hear a bit of it from Bojack and Princess from time to time and the picture the two paparazzai chickens took, as well as a small bit of it with the Black Widow woman and the Gerbel.

I think it would be a more fun, interesting, tone compared to all the shit Bojack does. Hell maybe even talk his Agent into doing something sick in order to get back into his good graces. The horse is fucked up, there's are so many fucking possibilities and the writers and artist are to much of pussies to even go full on it.

I mean, Diana probably does doggy with Mr Peanutbutter.

I wanna see how far they can push the censors on Netflix

>>84935555
Todd's suicide came out of nowhere and was just briefly glossed over, there was no fucking build up nor does anyone even fucking reference it after it happened so why should we? At least with Sarah Lynn there was a build up too it.

>>84937348
What episode was Todds suicide?

>>84937362
They're trollin'

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>Bojack tells Princess Carolyn he loves her, and she agrees mutally
>Leaves anyway

I can't take it anymore.

>>84927257
>(you)

>>84937341
>I mean, Diana probably does doggy with Mr Peanutbutter.
"Let's see you earn your name..."

>>84937803
Famous for different reasons than our universe.

>>84924430
Got sick of it during the pilot
Stop watching after the third episode

>>84937837
we had a million threads saying this exact thing when it first came out, tough it out it changes tone

>>84937953
I hope they never make another episode with Diane's family.

>>84937837
The first 3-5 episodes aren't really representative of the rest of the show. I hated the first few and only stuck with it cause I was too lazy to find something else to watch. Worth it.

>>84937953
Doesn't sounds like it, sounds like Bo is still being a bitch because he wants to be a lazy bitch

>>84937362
He killed himself in the ending of the third season.

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>>84937341
You now realise that with that Princess Carolyn dating Ralph there’s now potential for prey play/PC domming him in bed.

>>84925940
Not really, I fucking hate BoJack but Sarah Lynn was a ticking bomb. She said herself that she couldn't wait to get wasted again and BoJack was an excuse to go off the rails.
He facilitated her death but he wasn't directly responsible for it

>>84938511
woah

>>84937362
The 13th episode

>>84937341
Well, you see, this is a show, it's not porn.

>>84938511
Oh god yes

>>84938857
she really overreacted considering BoJack didn't actually do anything

>>84938853
I think him and the rest of us KNOW it's a show, ON NETFLIX, so they can do some stuff but I think it'd be interesting to have a episode more fetish eccentric with all the possibilities. I'm not talking graphic, full on porn here. Are you a little numb in the membrane here?

>>84938853
A man can have dreams

>>84938857
It was all the fights she had with her mother and making her go to the doctor for the mandatory hymen inspection that traumatized her.

>>84938961
>middle-aged man you almost fucked with a year ago suddenly runs out of the bushes fucked up on drugs and drunk off his ass profusely apologising in front of your friends
Doesn't seem like much of an overreaction.

>>84937803
Deepest lore

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>>84938961
>showed up drunk and stoned to your university in a trench coat after hunting you down and stalking you for weeks
>"did nothing"

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>>84937770
>Mr Peanutbutter licking peanut butter out of Diane's ass

make it so

>>84938563

No, you don't understand. Bojack Horseman (The heroin from episode 3) literally killed her.

Season 4 will have a background plot of Penny's mother plotting to kill Bojack because of him stalking her and at the end she is arrested and goes to prison and Bojack successfully ruins an entire family.

Screencap this

>>84938857
This pissed me off. She gets triggered and blames Bojack for a decision she made. If I decided to shoot someone in the shoulder and I get all PTSD'd when I see them again, it isn't their fault, it's mine.

>>84938974
There was an entire episode about auto-erotic asphyxiation, that's pretty goddamn kinky.

>>84939116
>>>>/r9k/

>>84939116
i don't know how it's possible to watch a show wrong, but you did

>>84939125
That's normal human kink. We're talking about all the crazy implications with all the humanoid animals in this franchise and universe.

See
>>84938511
As an example.

>>84938857
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>84938511
I want this relationship between those two to last, but I know it's just wishful thinking on my part.

>>84939039
I meant the whole "I was 17 I didn't know any better!"
also he appeared in a public place full of other teens not a dark aisle with her all alone

>>84927268
>>84927367
>>84927534

Why did she go to the AA meeting then to get her last chip for 9 months. I think she did actually want to change its just hard too change and she couldn't turn down Bojack the flashback shows she likes to and wants to hang out with him when she can he just gave her an excuse to go on a giant bender again..

So why are Will Arnett and Aaron Paul credited as Executive prodicers?

>>84940028
Happens a lot with movies and TV series, if one of the lead actors really wants to back the project they usually end up with a producer credit.

>>84925897
>44-day long
Really? Jesus, and here I thought it was a fortnight.

>>84939240
Charlotte knows a lot about Bojack, I wouldn't be surprised if she told Penny exactly what she was getting into and how big of a mistake it was.

also it's really fucking creepy to engage someone in Ohio when you last had any contact with them they were in fucking New Mexico. Especially while wearing a trenchcoat and high on drugs.

>>84942190
The calendar in Sarah Lynn's kitchen showed it started on January 15, 2016 (the day after the 88th Oscar nominees were announced, so they did get that detail right)

The 88th Academy Awards ceremony itself was on February 28, which would make for a 44-day bender.

>>84938857
2canuck4me.

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Who is this character? I don't recognize her.

>>84935113
I don't know, man. I had zero feels this season. I only felt repulsed by most of the cast.

>>84942953
New character who called Princess Carolyn's agency asking about Bojack.

>>84942953
>>84943010
Remember that Bojack mentioned having paid for multiple abortions without following up to make sure the women actually went through with it

Also notice the diamond marking on her face that looks similar to his

>>84942953
You remember when Bojack remarked he payed a lot of money to women he slept with to get abortions, but never followed up as to whether they actually had them or not? She probably ties into that.

>>84942993
Don't know what to say, Sarah Lynn's story is tragic as hell, especially if you rewatch the previous episodes she's in and see all the foreshadowing. Though my feels probably weren't helped by the fact that I watched the episodes at 3 AM and stopped at like 10 AM.

>>84942953
>There's a picture of her on the wall with what is presumably a dog friend
Hm...

>>84943632
Does it really make you think?

>>84943632
It's like poetry.

also yay more young women for Bojack to ruin forever.

>>84942953
Horse pussy

>>84939297
She also said that she got her 9 month chip drunk and that it was no big deal, implying she wasn't sober the whole time. And she said going to a meeting drunk was the only way to noe make it boring so she probably was at least a little buzzed some of those times. There is no telling how long she actually went, she could have had a sobered/wasted cycle that repeats evert few months. Her being a child star is what doomed her.

>>84942953
Neither does Bojack.

>>84924485
I hear that. You have to want to change. Otherwise you just drift through the days doing what you need to while you wait for your time to run out.

>>84937341
>I mean, Diana probably does doggy with Mr Peanutbutter.

I actually thought it was pretty daring to show how visibly attracted Diane was to PB when he took of his shirt.

>>84938857
This is what ruined Bojack for me. He didn't just cause all sorts of drama in her family but brings that whole thing out in public. She's going to be in the news and shit for that.

How do you guys think this is going to be handled in season 4?

>>84944701
I'm expecting her to commit suicide. You people think it'll end with Sarah? This is the just the beginning people

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>>84944701
>someone posts the video online
>her mom sees it and kills bojack
>show ends

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>Season 2 ends on a slight nod of hope with the Baboon jogger
>this entire season
Just kill him already. He's already dead

>mfw episode 4
such a maximum comfy episode

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>>84945150
>It doesn't get better and it doesn't get easier.

>>84924430
who else is still waiting for judah to call BoJack after watching The Caveman's Valentine?

I really thought that his autismness was gonna pay that off.

>>84943671
Well, it makes me think of the relationship Bojack has with Mr. Peanut butter. Though I imagine the horse girl is slightly better adjusted than Bojack is.

Honestly the only thing that kept me watching is Princess Carolyn, fucking love her, Bojack can suck it.

As a whole though this season felt noticeably weaker than season 2, not as much hard hitting moments, though honestly maybe it was just me getting fed up with hijacks shit. What'd you guys think?

>>84947466
I've posted my analysis a bunch because I know BoJack threads will probably be around for another two days and then no more until next year. My opinion can be condensed as the season felt sloppily written, comedy all over the place and inappropriately messing with scene tension in several instances that didn't happen in previous seasons and Season 2 ended with several plot points that went nowhere in Season 3 and the plots they did continue with in Season 3 felt weightless and dumb with no payoff.

That whole hooker safe space plotline with Todd and PB never had any gravitas that PB's show or other Todd/PB projects did in Season 2 and it just conveniently ended with a joke about making a bunch of money.

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>>84924430
I'd say you are only upset at Bojack's actions because they are too easy and predictably written. It's not even the writer's fault since I never watched this show for its deep plot twists and storytelling. You need to look elsewhere if you want that. It's more of a vehicle for jokes in its unique animal-people-in-hollywood setting.

>>84946074
I thought S2's ending was a perfect series ending. It was frank and truthful. "You have to be the change you want to be and it's not easy, but if you do it every day, it'll get easier with time."

S3's point just seemed to be "Bojack didn't listen." At this point, I feel like the only ending he can have is "puts himself out of his own misery"

>>84924430
I don't think there's any redeeming him after 3x11. I was fairly disappointed that 3x12 didn't focus on the aftermath of that much. Sarah Lynn's last month or so alive was spent entirely with Bojack. People saw them at the college and at the AA meeting and possibly driving around town drunk as fuck. The people must know Bojack was there with Sarah Lynn when she died.

I thought there'd be some comeuppance for Bojack, but there was nothing. He had to deal with it himself. Maybe that was the point? Bojack is seemingly never suitingly punished for the shit he does. Maybe that's what's frustrating me?

>>84948315
Bojack punishes himself in everything he does.

He needs help.

>>84938857
Ehh, I felt like her reaction was a bit too much (man). She talked about how she was only 17 when Bojack preyed on her, but it's not like 17 was that long ago for her; it was less than a year ago.

If Bojack tried to show up in her life like ten years from now and she said that she was only 17, I'd understand.

>>84948315
One of two things happened. Either Bojack called for help after Sarah Lynn died and no one has implicated him in her death or Bojack left Sarah Lynn in the planetarium to be found dead. Season 4 could get extremely depressing and dramatic if the later happened.

>>84948315
Sarah Lynn's death is going to haunt Bojack, that should be the whole plotline in S4; and it would serve as punishment for being so retarded.

>>84948381
No, he doesn't. He's just fucking stupid and will use all the dumb shit he does as an excuse to pity himself; that's what S3 was about.

>>84948247
He will remember now that he finally met his destiny inb4 he has to run

>>84947587
They fucking killed Todd and i don't want to talk about it
The spaghetti punchline was predictable and lame, it speaks a lot about PB's character.

>>84947466
I wished they developed that rat character a bit more, he feels to shallow and i can't tell for sure if he's the right guy for Carolyn.

S4 has to be the final season, either way Bojack is going to die... metaphorically

3x8 is the best chapter and you can't deny it

>>84948760

>S4 has to be the final season, either way Bojack is going to die... metaphorically

Considering that the show was picked up for a fourth season in as little as 12 hours, it's probably safe to say that they're going to stay Bojack's execution.

>>84948947
It's up to the showrunner. The guy's really young, so I can see him ending Bojack Horseman after only another season.

With that being said, when talking about season 4, he didn't really sound like he had a plan in mind, but he also didn't talk about ending the series anytime soon. I doubt the 4th season will be it.

>>84948992
If it doesn't end in s4; then i'm going to pretend that Bojack died anyway.
Damn, i'll probably write a fan fiction fixing all the mistakes that that season has potential to commit

>>84948992
>>84949112
I had a link to an interview but lost the source and apparently the showrunner feels that because BoJack is a "unique opportunity" for serious topics in animation with no content restrictions he essentially plans to keep running with the show until Netflix pulls the plug.

And everyone on here going "well you can't call it shit if it's not even out yet" while Raphael leans over a plate with his ass cheeks hanging out. Stupid. I'm not all that optimistic about Season 4 blowing me away and I predict it'll be the continuation of mediocrity that could probably keep going for several more seasons.

If he plans to just keep going with the show as long as possible then by definition he does not have these character arcs written in his head and therefore it's all artificial in development.

>>84948247

It's not that he didn't listen, it's that actually doing it every day is really, really, really fucking hard.

>>84949328
>he essentially plans to keep running with the show until Netflix pulls the plug.
What, you mean like every show ever? You mean like how the entire television industry works? For shame.

This show is already stretched the fuck out, Sarah Lynn was supposed to die in season 3 but they pushed it back because they found more shit they wanted to do in the mean time.
All good shows evolve, they bring new opportunities to mind as they're worked on that would never have occurred to the writers while it was still all just a blueprint.

>>84950262
This.

>>84950402
whoops
>supposed to die in season 1
fix'd

>>84950402
Yeah exactly. Most stories don't wind up looking like the blueprint. Maybe the writers have a specific ending in mind and make sure that story decisions don't violate that, but these things tend to take on a life of their own.

>>84950402
>What, you mean like every show ever?
Making false statements doesn't increase your argument's strength. The Sopranos had the character arcs of every major character written from the beginning to how they would end, top to bottom, before the show's first season was ever drafted. The same with Six Feet Under.

Coincidentally these two shows are often ranked in the top 10 shows ever produced.

>>84950433
source?

>>84950476
Not that anon but
>The Sopranos had the character arcs of every major character written from the beginning to how they would end, top to bottom, before the show's first season was ever drafted. The same with Six Feet Under.

They are in the vast minority of shows, then. Most long-form stories-- books, comics and tv shows-- are not planned out in that kind of detail beforehand. Writers will usually have themes they want to cover, major arcs, that kind of thing, but the characters tend to lead writers to places they hadn't anticipated.

>>84927268
She literally stated that she had no intention of staying clean and was only doing it so she could have a really good bender. She wasn't actually sober, she was on a tolerance break.

she said that, but she didn't actually do it until Bojack showed up. Likewise, she still wanted to get her chip. I think it likely we will find she was genuinely trying to go sober. It's too good an opportunity to put one more nail in Bojacks coffin for the writers to pass up.

>>84950612
I'm not saying it's common, I'm saying that's what it takes to be in the upper echelons of entertainment and be remembered for greatness. Bojack will not get there for this, among other reasons. The writers don't have much planned and they plainly aren't talented enough to convincingly wing it seamlessly. There are notable inconsistencies now that there have been 3 seasons of "lore".

>>84951102
She was trying to go sober, possibly for questionable reasons, but had her house stocked up with the shit she was trying to get away from. That said it did appear that she hadn't indulged in them, as she even forgot a lot of the locations.

When Bojack visited her, Sarah Lynn was on the edge. At that moment Bojack could have pushed her off back into self-destruction, which he did, or he could have been the final positive influence to really help her get better.

That whole situation was a mirror of the flashback from when she was "on the edge" with Hollywood. She knew the industry was shit and full of people who just wanted to use her, and what she really needed was a friend. Bojack was in that critical position to either be that friend or try using her himself and pushing her off the edge.

>>84948247
>>84945150
>>84946074
The problem with Bojack isn't that he didn't listen or the jogger was wrong but rather he focused on all of the wrong stuff.

Instead of focusing his efforts on fixing his relationships and bettering himself he focused everything on getting a stupid Oscar he himself knew would only give him temporary happiness.

He put all of his eggs in one basket and when he realized he failed his goal he immediately went back into his vices.

The point of the horses was that you do gotta run, but you gotta to run the right direction.

>>84951284
Pretty much this. I wouldn't say Sarah Lynn's death is Bojack's FAULT exactly, but if you see someone dangling from a cliff and give them that final push instead of helping them, you bear a nonzero amount of responsibility for their death. Sure, they would have most likely fallen and died without your involvement, and even if you had helped them up it's possible they'd have jumped right back down-- but you had the option to help and instead chose to make it worse.

>>84950476

Breaking Bad had no fucking clue where it was going the entire run and it's also one of the top ranked shows ever produced.

Do you really think I was being literal when I said every show ever?

>>84950480

Some interview I fickly bumped into, I'll see if I can find it but your search will be about as good as mine.

>>84951447
Breaking Bad is shit and has coasted on the fact that it's new and the first thing a bunch of teenagers watched during the birth of Social Media. Wait 10 years and see what happens to that ranking.

>>84951429

Different anon, but that's a good analogy. It's not so much that Bojack influenced the outcome, but his behaviour says something about him as a person.

>>84944460
Brad ended up less than terrible so I think it's less of her being a child star and more of her upbringing in general. Bojack specifically really fucked her way of thinking up from a really impressionable age.

Not having any real friends and Bojack only coming back into her life for yet another guest appearance request probably fucked her up even more.

Why is Season 1 rated so much lower on Rotten Tomatoes than Seasons 2 and 3?

>>84950480
>>84951480
>>84950433

Well that was easier than I thought
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/23/12259216/bojack-horseman-season-3-netflix-review-interview

I misspoke, it's not that they intended her to die in season 1, it's that they knew from her first appearence that it'd happen at some point and didn't know exactly when it'd be.

>>84951725
Not sure, but if I had to guess, I'd say because the first several episode are pretty weak, and not really tonally consistent with the rest of the show.

>>84951725
Because the first 4 episodes are pretty much Family Guy and the reviewers only watched that many episodes before writing their reviews.

>>84951725

It's not that good to be honest. Everyone always bitches about the first few episodes, at least.
I was watching it last night, and it's not bad but it's so jarring when coming off of season 3. It's still good, but IMO season 3 is the best so far. I know not everyone shares that opinion, which I find surprising, but one way or another I think the show's really starting to find its voice, and in doing so it's probably speaking to a smaller group of people more profoundly, rather than speaking to a larger group of people at the cost of intimacy.

>>84951220

Why is Bojack obligated to be one of the top 10 shows? You know there's a world of variables in between 'top 10 ever' and 'Big Bang Theory season 100' right?

Why was this season so much weaker than the first two? It's not bad, it's just...kind of there.

>>84951864
Because striving for excellence is a given or why else would you do it? Mediocrity is not a sensible goal. What are you, a product of Common Core? I shouldn't need to point this out to you.

>>84951893

Key word, striving. Getting there means experimenting and being willing to fuck up, every master has infinite failures behind him. Do you think every autist who has a 1000 page fantasy novel eternally 'in the works' with no actual content completed will strike brilliance on his first try despite having no actual experience? Do you think anyone can just waltz into a gym, lift 500lbs and suddenly transform into Arnie?

>You've gotta do it every day, that's the hard part. But it does get easier.

Fuck, it was clear from the first few episodes that Bojack is an incredibly flawed show by people finding their feet, what were you expecting here?

>>84937803
Sir Paul McCartney was knighted for his many charity works and artistic achievement as the frontman of Wings.

>>84938511
that's probably the animal version of talking about "nigger dicks" in bed. Some people might find that hot, but it's probably mostly seen as weird and embarrassing.

>>84952156
Literally the first thing they say to each other when they meet is pointing out that they're a cat and mouse and how they're naturally not supposed to get along.

>>84951220
Breaking Bad is widely considered to be in that level, and it wasn't really planned out.

Mike was added in Season 2 because Saul's actor wasn't available, and they decided that Saul would just send a guy to deal with Jesse's dead girlfriend rather than come personally anyways. He turned into a major character in later seasons, and a well-received one at that.

When they shot the scene of Walt buying the M60 in Season 5A, they had no idea what he was going to end up doing with it; in the end, it all came together.

>>84951725
Reviewers were only sent the first 6 episodes to preview

Indiewire talked about that, a little

http://www.indiewire.com/2014/09/why-bojack-horseman-makes-netflix-matter-in-the-online-television-age-69717/

>>84951332
>focused on all of the wrong stuff
The stuff with the Oscar is all stupid and pointless; first it was making a secretariat movie, now it's an Oscar. He keeps setting up these goals for himself with the belief that the next one will be what makes him happy.

And personally I wasn't even at all interested in the Oscar stuff. Those scenes and episodes were the worst in this season because I couldn't invest myself in them because I knew none of it mattered. I was honestly really surprised by how upset Bojack was to not get an Oscar, there's so much other more important stuff in his life to be concerned with.

>>84953552
>He keeps setting up these goals for himself with the belief that the next one will be what makes him happy.
...Welcome to Bojack Horseman?

>>84924430
The only one who hasn't yet is Mr. Peanutbutter

>>84953816
When Mr. Peanutbutter losses faith in Bojack, then and only then is he truly doomed.

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>>84938511
>>84938632
>>84938932
>>84952156
Let's not turn this into the Zootopia /trash/ thread now

>>84954603
Well I mean the characters in this show actually are sexually active

And it's been implied they're into some stuff (i.e. Bojack's sex mommy thing)

So TECHNICALLY we're still talking about the show

>>84937803
I had a ball at Diane's 35th birthday and underline ball I don't know why this is so hard

>>84954620
it's more appropriate here, but it's still pred-prey fetishizing and endless shipping.

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>>84954631
For anyone who wants to make their own shirt

>>84927268
>child actress turns into idiot adult who compensates for her loneliness with substance addiction
To quote the show itself
Diane: Ugh. Of course the first time BoJack dates a woman his own age she's basically just a stunted 20 year old.

Kelsey: Well Bojack's stunted too. He got famous in his twenties so he's gonna be in his twenties forever. After you get famous you stop growing because you don't have to. Every celebrity has an age of stagnation.

>>84939196
He's probably too normal and independent, so PC can't exercise her compulsive mothering on him like she could with Bojack.

>>84924430
I'm not.

I can relate to his train of thought, it's hard jumping off that train.

But yeah I hope season 4 will actually push him to a brighter future.

>>84938961
Bojack was fucked up on drugs and it could be her mother shifting all the blame away from her and on Bojack.

>>84955444

Amazing.
I'm lazy af, is there anywhere I can just buy a shirt?

>>84924430
>There are people on this board who watch reddithorse
kill yourselves

>>84955719
>40 something year old man tries to have sex with married woman
>tries to sleep with her underage daughter who is vulnerable
>SHIFTING BLAME

>>84955782
Not saying Bojack was innocent, he was a bastard, but IIRC Penny was leading him on pretty hard. He should've kept his dick in his pants, but now it seems Penny has all forgotten about herself hitting on him.

>>84955819
Well yeah, but she was plastered and insecure, looking to him as a surrogate. He's the adult, he shouldn't have taken them out to do all that wild shit and give her that impression in the first place.

>>84955782
>Underage
At the time she made a big point about how under New Mexico law 17 is legal and she was completely sober.

>>84955782
50 year olds, dude

>>84955849
Yeah that's fair, and I was 17 when I lost my virginity, but I still feel that her emotional maturity was not in a place that was appropriate for him to be doing that.
I'm just trying to say that as a middle aged man, his behaviour was worse than hers from the start and to the end.

>>84955849
Some american states probably have something similar to the canadian criminal code where under 18 year olds can still be sexually exploited even if the age of constent is technically 16 or 17.

>Are 16 and 17 year olds also protected against sexual exploitation?

>The Criminal Code protects 16 and 17 year olds against sexual exploitation, where the sexual activity occurs within a relationship of trust, authority, dependency or where there is other exploitation. Whether a relationship is considered to be exploiting the 16 or 17 year old will depend upon the nature and circumstances of the relationship, e.g., the age of the young person, the age difference between the young person and their partner, how the relationship developed and how the partner may have controlled or influenced the young person. As well, 16 and 17 year olds cannot consent to sexual activity that involves prostitution or pornography.

>>84955887
>As well, 16 and 17 year olds cannot consent to sexual activity that involves prostitution or pornography.
One of the big issues with this, on an unrelated topic, is how teenagers send each other nudes. If you're 15 and a girl in your class sends a nude, you are technically guilty of possession child pornography.

>>84955907
What if she's the teacher?

>>84955977
Your teacher is 15?

>>84955977
Male teachers groom their students
Female teachers seduce

>>84951486
It was excellent til it got to Gus.

>>84956018
>implying theres a moral difference
Fucking society

>>84955907
I'd imagine it falls in the category of peerage if a 15 year old girl sends a pic of her vag to a 15 year old guy. It's technically cp but since it's meant for sexual activity between said peerage it's not. If an outsider finds it and starts spreading it they can be prosecuted for possession and distribution.

Of course common law is so memetastic that I wouldn't be surprised if some judge somewhere has handed out punishment to underage kids for possession of pics of themselves.

>>84955819
>but now it seems Penny has all forgotten about herself hitting on him.
More like she's embarrassed as fuck.
And the knowledge that 17 year olds are dumb as fuck and constantly do things they'll regret is just another reason why Bojack should have known better. And now Penny's old enough to realise that, and to realise that at her current age she's still only able to scrape the surface of understanding how bad that is (with her mother's reaction no doubt making her take it much more seriously and cautiously).
It's only been about a year, but she's just transitioned from high school to college, which is a big change. It's easy to look at high schoolers from that vantage point and already see them as children. So by comparison, the fact that a 50 year old didn't see her as a child would probably feel really unsettling.
Especially now that he's stalked her to her college out of the blue and plastered out of his mind - gotta remember she hadn't shown any distress over what happened until that point. And I think anyone would be put off by something like that. Even if she hadn't tried it on with Bojack, if it had been some age-appropriate kid from her school that tracked her down on a bender, that'd be pretty unsettling.

When I was in my final year of school there was a girl who was a couple of years older than me, who used to go to my school, that I'd started sleeping with. She was studying teaching and wouldn't you know it, she was a student teacher for my class for a few weeks.
Technically it was highly illegal, but I was 18 and we'd known each other for like 3 years, so it was kind of weird from a legal perspective in my opinion.
Kind of hot though.

>>84956127
>Technically it was highly illegal,
>but I was 18

>>84956309
Because she was my "guardian" while she was my teacher. It doesn't matter what the student's age is.

>>84956349
Not true. She only told you that to make it hotter.

>>84924430
I was shitfaced so I only watched up to like episode 6 over a two day period. But I heard that season 3 ends with bojack being sad again just like the first two.

I guess I'm tired of bojack seasons always ending on a shitty note.

>>84956432
All Australian teachers are required to have professional registration with their respective state or territory Teacher Quality Institute.

They are regulated by a Code of Professional Practice and Conduct which stipulates that "teachers must not engage in behaviour that raises a reasonable suspicion that they have engaged in or will engage in sexual misconduct".

"Teachers' interactions with students, including those over 16 years of age must be, and be seen to be, professional at all times including 'out of school' hours."

Breaching the code can lead to a teacher having their professional registration cancelled and being unable to gain employment as a teacher.

Mr Corbell has previously strengthened aspects of its legislation protecting students from predatory teachers.

In 2011, the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions warned that a loophole in ACT legislation made it legal for teachers to have sex with students as long as they were over the age of consent of 16.

In 2013, the Assembly agreed to raise this to 18. It also put the ACT in line with NSW, Western Australia, Victoria, South Australia and the Northern Territory where it is a crime for a person to have sexual interactions with a 16 or 17-year-old under their "special care or supervision" – including students.

Consent is negated under 18 because the teacher is an authority figure.

>>84956462
Season 2 ended on a positive note, though.

>>84956492
Bunch of killjoys, the ancient Greeks thought that a bit of arse fucking was beneficial for the student and the student-teacher relationship.

>>84956492
>Australian
Nevermind, thought you were American.

>>84956518
In Queensland "sodomy" is illegal until you're 18, but vaginal sex is legal at 16.

>>84956528
>fuck me johnny
>but not up the ass
>that's illegal

>>84938511
Am I the only one who got aroused when Princess Carolyn attacked Bojack in his restaurant.

>You will never date PC, cheat on her, get caught, then assaulted out of pure jealousy and rage in front of dozens of strangers.

>>84956528
You could use that law to deport all the illegal Muslim sloots

>>84956543
I was more making the point that it's illegal to have sex for an extra two years if you're a gay male.

>>84943632
What is this? A rule 63 episode?

>>84955752

Are you too lazy for plastisol heat transfers?

http://www.fmexpressions.com/store/custom/

Reminders:
>PC is the cutest and best girl
>Mr. PB is too pure for this world
>Bojack does everything he can to make his life more and more miserable, and then acts like the victim

>>84931526
I kind of blame Spanikopita for pulling him back down. He was ready to be better but that wasn't convenient with being a famous celebrity.

>>84956930
I wanna give PC a box full of crinkled wrapping paper...

>>84931035
That specific batch that Bojack (Horseman) KNEW had killed multiple people in the past, he personally saw their corpses, and knew that it was responsible.

That specific killer batch that Bojack then let Sarah Lynn indulge in dangerously large quantities of without speaking a word about its known lethality.

Bojack kills.

>>84956527

...Are American teachers allowed to fuck students?

>>84956874

WAY too lazy, had a quick click around and have no idea what's going on here. Anything greater than 'click buy, enter deets'? That's too much, man!

>>84956930
>Mr. PB is too pure for this world
>too pure
Doesn't he say in one of the earlier seasons that he just fucks around in life because it's the only way for him to cope with the darkness that is life?

>>84957963
Not generally, no.

>>84939116
>If I decided to shoot someone in the shoulder and I get all PTSD'd when I see them again, it isn't their fault

Says someone who hasn't ever been shot... or traumatized.

>>84957134
That scene was really weird to me. Bojack was all willing to drop the Oscars deal, and one little speech by Ana convinced him? I wonder if part of this season was to show how easily influenced he is by people who seem like they have it together.

>>84956655
>Mr. PB making unironic ">it's a ___ episode" frogposts on /tv/

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What's your favourite Mr. Pimpernumber quote?
>A movie.. During the day? Dare I?

>>84924430
Season three Bojack felt like a step down from season two. He almost felt like he did in season one.

Guys is beloved character actress margo martindale really dead?

>>84964719
not a chance.

>>84964952
But we saw her get pulled down into water by sticky spaghetti

>>84965035
You think that's enough to kill off beloved character actress Margo Martindale? Have a little respect. She's laying low in Pacific Ocean City, you mark my words.

>>84950402
>What, you mean like every show ever?

Considering Bojack seems to be a satire of shows like that, I don't want to it to become a parody of itself.

>>84955444
>35
christ
I thought she was like 25
they do not enunciate her age well enough
good thing she aborted the baby, it would probably have come out with down's syndrome

>before season starts said other woukd try to sabotage bojack and he wouldnt try to sabotage himself
Why lie

>>84932812
>They both were. Bojack realized that what made him happy was Sarah Lynn. They probably wouldn't have gotten better had she lived, but they both would have stopped being miserable.

They would have kept partying until one or both of them died.

>>84924430
I actually liked this season more after rewatching 1 and 2, I feel like a lot of the impact of it is from piecing together things from other episodes.
>sarah-lynn talks about how ironic it would be if she killed bojack
>Mr-Peanutbutter talking about how he doesn't want to fight in a starbucks, latter you see him fighting in a starbucks is how he met diane
>Parallels between PB and Bojack everywhere
>99% sure next season will reveal that PB is in love with Bojack

>>84955444
>Welcome home little bro! Oh, also I have a groupon

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>>84964253
>I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said "You have reached the end of your free trial membership at Benjaminfranklinquotes.com"

such a wise man

>>84968377
>"The universe is a cruel, uncaring void. The key to being happy isn't a search for meaning; it's to just keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense and eventually, you'll be dead."
Literally the darkest character in the show

>>84942953
thicc

>>84958059
You just upload the artwork, you buy a heat transfer and they send you a plastisol heat transfer with your image on it. Then you just iron it onto a plain shirt.

The cool thing about their transfers is that you can put them on just about any color shirt.

>>84942953
This isn't going to turn out well for anybody

>>84945081
Wow dang you're right she will actually probably try to kill him.
This'll be interesting

>>84940028
"Executive producer" is a fancy title that means "doesn't do anything but gets money in exchange for being able to use their name for promotion and funding reasons". They also sometimes contribute to funding the production. It's why Steven Spielberg has such a credit on the Bayformers movies, he knew they'd make bank so he signed up to get a cut of the profits in exchange for them being able to put "from executive producer Steven Spielberg" in the trailer
It's likely that Will Arnett and Aaron Paul helped put up money for the first season and now they will continue to get checks for being exec producers in addition to their VA salary

You know, i'd get a kick out of it if bojack horseman ends with bojack doing a reboot of the bojack horseman show for netflix.

>>84969259
I'd watch a whole season of Horsin' Around, the Christmas special was quite enjoyable. Mostly because it strikes a dang good balance between playing that sort of show straight and taking the piss on it, still felt accurate to wholesome comfy family TV but with enough subtle dark jokes for the jaded sort who watches BoJack

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I don't know where Bojack can go from here.

He played a part in the death of one of the few people he had a mutual understanding with and even his have closest friends like Todd and PC have forsaken him. What happens next?

>>84969656
works on the new show, tries not to fuck up the casts' lives. does.

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>"What do you want to be when you grow up Chloe?"
>"I want to be like you"

>Sarah overdosed on Bojack

POTTERY

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I have recently finished watching Season 3. I have binge watched the whole series in four days.

Season 3 is good because s3e04 is amazing.

Bojack is a very clear case of ADD affecting human relationships.

I'm about halfway through Season 3 and I'm actually bored. Are there any really good episodes that make it worth finishing?

>>84971209

The one before the finale is pretty amazing.

>>84971209
If you don't enjoy it at this point just watch some other show

OFFICIAL BOJACK MAIN CAST PURITY RATINGS:

Mr. Peanutbutter > Todd Chavez > Princess Carolyn > Diane Nguyen > Bojack Horseman

>>84947466
I feel the opposite. I think season 3 is the strongest of all of them. However, I also think it's the least funny. It's the first time the show really made me feel like shit, after I was done watching it.

Also agree about PC though, I love that cat and hopes she ends up happy.

>>84972321
I concur.

>>84957963
They can't get in legal trouble but schools get SUPER pissed and if anyone finds out they might get the teacher on trumped-up charges like tax dodging.

>>84957963

No, but one in a thousand do it anyway because taboos are sexy in our culture.

>>84965271
35 is usually safe, the cutoff is around 40.

I want more pictures of sarah lynn

those ones when she was paiting her nails in the car for example

>>84957963
Only if the teacher is female and the student is a male 17-18 year old.

>>84925897
>Sarah-Lynn went clean then Bojack lost all his friends but her so he got her back into partying and then the two of them went on a 44-day long bender which ended in Sarah-Lynn's death
Didnt she mention that she WANTED to get wasted because she heard that if you went clean and then go on a bender, it would be a 10000X better?

>>84942953
I probably bet Bojack would find a way to fuck his daughter. That man has no standards or limit

>>84974941
Yes, but she was making progress, whether she meant to or not. Sarah Lynn was in a weird, vulnerable state regarding drugs, and Bojack should have tried helping her, or just leaving, or doing anything other than continue to allow and encourage her to go on a bender after she talked about being sober. Bojack should done something to help her with drugs, not encourage her to do more, especially considering that Bojack was fresh out of a wacky misadventure involving an overdose.

>>84975545
>especially considering that Bojack was fresh out of a wacky misadventure
It'd been months, each season of Bojack takes place over the course of like a whole year.

>>84924430
Why would I be? It's entertaining as fuck. 3 seasons in and it's still addictive.

P.S. Princess Caroline is my waifu

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>>84975996
I just want to see PC be happy sexually

>>84976163
The show was renewed for a fourth season. PC getting the mouse dick is being animated as we speak.

>>84969749
Season 4 Episode 11 ends with BoJack doing the most depressing thing he's done yet.
Season 4 Episode 12 ends with a slightly optimistic metaphor about running.

REPEAT AGAIN FOREVER

>>84976549
The only fitting series finale is for Bojack to optimistically run off a cliff.

>>84976874
>Bojack jump off the cliff
>by sneer coincidence, MPB just so happens to be flying his blimp because WACKY GOVERNMENT ELECTION SHENANIGAN right under that cliff
>Bojack land on the blimp
>"HEY BOJACK! I DIDN'T KNOW YOU TOOK UP SKYDIVING!"

>>84976549
Pretty sure season 2 was peak depressing for Bojack, that shit was fucked up

Sara Lynn was almost a beautiful tragedy in comparison, with all the set up and foreshadowing

>>84976549
For nine more seasons.
Twelve steps, anon.

>>84938857
Reminder that Penny should have banged BoJack and her mother is a bitch.

>>84973158
I don't think "forbidden love" and all the more severe deviations originate in america.

If that's not specific enough, read a bible. Or look up a Roman emperor

>>84975996
Princess Carolyn.

You should probably learn to spell your waifu's name correctly.

>>84977025
>he climbs down into the cockpit
>gives MPB a sincere apology
>pushes him out of the blimp with a lifejacket and crashes it into a nearby field that used to be a racetrack

>>84979059
>previously, Todd bought the race track, somehow made riches off of involving bounding castles
>he landed on a giant Todd shaped bounding castle

People predicting the events of season 4 seem to be missing the major element of the final episode. We see every single character proven incapable of changing, no matter how miserable who they are makes them. Bojack is the one fighting hardest to change who he is, even if he is failing.

I think we're going to see a season with a much heavier focus on the supporting cast as they deal being stuck in their own lives while Bojack might straight up fuck off for a portion of the season and maybe manage to ACTUALLY change, at least for a while.

>>84979227
fuck you let bojack die

I can see this shit happening though

>>84932812
This. This is why even thinking about Sarah Lynn makes me tear up. My ex and I would do drugs every day together, and this arc read like the diary i never wrote.

>you and me, we don't want anything from each other.
You know, I I could never figure out what love meant, but, right now, I don't need to figure out anything.
I just feel it."

dem feels