How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #299

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

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>>84663863

I doodle up something.

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Do you liek my comic?

I'm having trouble coming up with a long term goal for my protagonists. Any suggestions on how to come up with one?

>>84664199
what's the story?

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been doing 1 comic a month for the past 4 months

comic in thumbnail: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/aim8i/77297241/73250/73250_original.png

compiled: http://aim8i.livejournal.com/48742.html

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You guys think that antagonists should look villainous? I'm doing character concepts and noticed that most of my antagonists look super non-threatening. I kinda like it, but what do you guys think of this character for instance? Does he look like he could be nasty if he wanted to?

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Starting to ink. Really like how thug #1 and #2 came out, considering they were improvised.

also, is there a chance we can get a discord invite?

>>84664295
Your composition is strong. I think what you're drawing right now is a bit hard for an outsider to approach, but you're definitely making visually engaging pages.

>>84664564
They don't have to. Sauron would be a different villain if he just looked like a normal dude, but he wouldn't necessarily be worse.

>>84664564
Maybe not nasty in a physical cruelty way, but he looks like he'd definitely cancel a loan out of spite or to get his own way.

>>84664564
Anyone in life can be a villain, and your character here fits the "straight laced white guy with nastiness brewing underneath" archetype.

You can easily make him visually threatening in a moment with posture, expression and small details like disheveled hair.

>>84664681
I like your fat thug.

>>84664681
https://discord.gg/2DnBc
Get in here senpai

>>84664798
>>84664821
ty

>>84664564
Umm that guy looks SUPER threatening you shitlord, he's a fucking white male.

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started coloring work on the new page.

Lower the resolution from 600 to 350 to see if I can speed it along.

>>84664564
I tend to make my antagonists looks very plane and in reality be very non-threatening compared to their minions.

>>84665340
That's bad.

>>84664564
What is a villanous look? Is it tied to 'physical' appearance or the presentation?

>>84665417
yeah, I know. It's honestly the result of me being a shitty artist

>>84664564
I think antagonists should look threatening or not threatening based on what sort of antagonist they are.

Freddy Krueger is threatening, and it suits him.

Hans Landa is non-threatening, and it suits him.

That there is a villain of the Landa sort.

>>84666394
Agreed.

Did anyone here get accepted into Hiveworks?

>>84666751
Nobody from /hyw/ got accepted into HW as far as I know. We only know 2 of the comics that got accepted so far, the rest of the creators aren't telling anybody until their comics show up on HW, but it seems HW wanted Tumblr shit this time.

The 2 best comics in /hyw/ didn't get accepted and they are both better than the 2 comics that everybody knows have been accepted, that tells you something about Hiveworks.

>>84666875
Which two comics got accepted?

>>84666875
Pfft, I don't need no hiveworks! I'll publish the comic myself and make my own deadlines! Just like Berserk and Hunter x Hunter!!

>>84666915
It was posted in the last thread but I'm on a phone right now so I can't look it up.

>>84666915
Oddity Woods and Goodbye to Halos. Both leagues better than anything here.

>>84667263
>Both leagues better than anything here
I disagree.

>>84667414
Your opinion doesn't matter.

>>84667263
Yeah, no.

>>84667556
Listen you can deny it all you want because you're butthurt that you got rejected.

But until you learn to tell the differences between good webcomics and bad, yours will always be bad.

>>84667502
Neither does yours, sport.

>>84667263
Yeah, they definitely had their eye on something specific. Both visually and thematically (that is... they seem most interested in digitally drawn fantaay comics.) Comics in their catalogue that are exceptions had large fanbases prior to joining anyways (e.g. SMBC, Prague Race.) I'm disappointed I didn't get accepted because I have a good product, but I don't fit within any of the above categories either. I can't think of a comic here that does.

>>84667637
Considering it's one shared with Hiveworks, yeah it kinda does.

>>84666875
Just because it's in a style you don't like doesn't mean it's bad.

>>84667633
I'm not the anon you're replying to. I didn't even apply to that collective.

>>84667263
>implying anything in the known universe in any form of media whatsoever, not just comics, can possibly be better or even as good as West Tree Academy of Heroes

>>84667723
Then why the sour grapes?

>>84667772
What sour grapes? Is the opinion I replied to the only valid one?

>>84667639
>Yeah, they definitely had their eye on something specific

Yeah, professional quality work.

As opposed to anything here.

>>84667795
Shut the fuck up.

>>84667675
>>84667795
Let's take this outta the thread, broski.

Do you have Skype?

>>84667795
Anon, do you need help? Are your buttocks in pain so severe that only salty trolling can help?

>>84667795
>>84667772
Bootlick more, cuck. I'm sure you'll get pity sex from some landwhale if you keep defending Hivework, FOR FREE.

>>84667795
As much as the Miss Melee guy keeps saying not to drag his comic into the /hyw/ shitsorm I still maintain that MM is fucking leagues above Goodbye to Halos.

>>84667795
There's a few geuinely pro level folks who post or used to post here and to say there's not proves you're trolling. Here's your (You).

>>84667850
As do I - because it's true.

>>84667809
>being this buttblasted

Are you really so delusional too? That you think anything I've said is false?

Or do really just not like to hear it?

Is this place really that much of a hugbox? You really actually thought your shit don't stink?

>>84667880
Show me your comic.

Whatever happened to the guy with the comic about the frog knight on fantasy adventures? I loved that one.

>>84664187
I love this. Blog?

>>84667880
Show me yours.

>>84667850
Thirded. Most of the stuff here is mediocre at best and the real standout talent from the earlier threads aren't even around to say if their applied anymore, but holy shit Miss Melee getting snubbed is ludicrous and seeing Goodbye to Halos get posted in the last thread and knowing that got in instead was insanity.

>>84667920
It's irrelevant to the discussion. I never said it was professional quality, I never even said it was good. But show my yours, and I will tell you several reasons why it was rejected. Real reasons, not phony excuses like "tumblr" and "homosexuals."

>>84667900
Chochi's a busy man I guess. He was supposed to continue a porn comic earlier this year but it never happened.

>>84667937
Miss Melee is alright. It's well-drawn enough, the writing is decent, but nothing about it really makes it a head above other entries to the same genre. I'm not surprised it got rejected on those grounds... and this is not to say it's bad.

#Justice4MissMelee

>>84667986
>Real reasons, not phony excuses like "tumblr" and "homosexuals."
Turning a blind eye to what they're obviously wanting for their market demographic is just setting yourself up for disappointment, anon.

>>84667996
The artwork needs polishing. Occasional massive perspective issues. The general layout is claustrophobic and confused.

The writing is boorish at best.

>>84668039
Compared to, what, published DC/Marvel/Vertigo comics? Because I've read a few of those - it's better than some of the ones I've seen published and on shelves.

>>84667989
A shame. Does the guy who was working on The Sisters still come by these parts? Or the guy who did that kind of John K-looking comic about the kind of pirate-looking girl? Has the person who was making Fjordson gotten back to work yet? I haven't been around for a few months and it feels like none of the comics that I followed in the threads are around anymore.

>>84668039
>Writing is boorish at best

Compared to fucking what? Modern cape comics? Don't make me post a smug anime girl at you, because you're off your fucking rocker if you don't think it's at least on par with anything being pushed on the shelves right now

>>84668014
#MissMeleeMatters

>>84667989
SpacePirate shows up here on occasion. The strip regularly updates on Mondays at http://www.greenknightcomic.com/
I suspect you might have a lot of catching up to do. Stick it in your RSS feed.

>>84667989
>Chochi
I think you have the wrong fantasy frog.

>>84668069
>Does the guy who was working on The Sisters still come by these parts?
Yes. Both writer and artist drop in.

>Or the guy who did that kind of John K-looking comic about the kind of pirate-looking girl?
Yes. Dustin has shown up here recently.

>Has the person who was making Fjordson gotten back to work yet?
No. ScandinavianPrincess hasn't been seen in this thread for a long time. Fjordson is on hiatus while they work on their portfolio for school.

>>84668058
Yes. The whole ironic superhero thing's been done a million times and better, and the lolsorandum jokes are just plain bad.

>>84668095
It's on par with modern capes, sure, but that's not exactly a high bar. And modern capes don't really intersect with the kind of work HW appears to have been seeking out.

>>84668222
So your issue isn't with anything you wrote - but instead is with the fact that it's a crowded genre and it doesn't appeal to you as much as other comics have. OK.

>>84668225
I don't get your point, though? If it's comparing with modern capes at the level it could be out on shelves right now, why are you not surprised it got rejected on those grounds? Are you saying HiveWorks demands a quality that surpasses what gets published and is on shelves -- because you're in for a rude awakening if you actually go through their catalogue. It's definitely not a hard rule for them.

>>84668225
>And modern capes don't really intersect with the kind of work HW appears to have been seeking out
It's been said before: if you have a big enough fanbase it doesn't matter whether your comic fits the image Hiveworks wants or not.

But if you have a fanbase that big you're not going to need to submit your comic to them, they'll seek you out and beg you to join.

>>84668095
I don't know why we would immediately compare it to something else. Does comparing it to mainstream cape comics make it better? As an independent comic, it's boring. Action-heavy and really lacks story in my opinion, and no matter how the other comics are like, my opinion still stays the same.

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more trash.

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>>84668385
even more trash.

I didn't realise making it on Hiveworks was so important to people here.

>>84668508
It's just Babby's First Rejection issues.

>>84668316
My point is >modern capes don't really intersect with the kind of work HW appears to have been seeking out.

Though I would argue that modern capes have a super low bar for entry, anyway... but that is for another thread. My real point is despite being a decent product, MM likely got rejected on the grounds of its genre more than its quality.

>>84668331
Agreed. Though MM doesn't appear to have that big enough fanbase quite yet. It is still at a point where it would have benefited from the partnership in my opinion.

>>84668508
It'll die down in a week, only to pick back up with butthurt and saltposting once the rest of the accepted comics are revealed later on.

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Hiveworks? More like SHITworks if you ask me.

BOOM! Roasted!

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>>84668069
Yeah, I come here on occasion. More often than not to just post the next update and maybe give a few blurbs of critique because these threads have been shittier than usual for about two weeks now.

>>84668039
>>84668341
I mean, I found it to be a fun read. But.
I'm working on a review of it for the Webcomic Police that should be going up in the next few days. Pretty much my thoughts after two issues of reading it. A lot of close shots, a lack of real backgrounds save for the interior of Jan's daughter's room; and it all seems to be so focused on the action that we lack a lot of reason to care about said action. While it doesn't need to be character driven, it does need to have character to it and the fact that the city in a superhero comic doesn't have any real identity visually, is a sin.

I've reworked it about six times because I don't want to sound like I'm taking a hatchet to it. Critique from a place without emotion and really just care about the raw stuff. MM can work because it flies through easily, but once you realize you've read two issues that feels more like two scenes, that's 44 pages without really getting to who anyone is or why. Modern Cape Comics do a lot of things wrong, but they try to make you care (and sometimes they do a terrible job) but it helps give you a sense of where you are in the world and why it matters to care about these characters. Right now we don't really have any reason to care about Janice being MM because there's no real risk to anything she does; she fights and wins.

As for MM not getting into Hiveworks, neither did the Sisters. HW clearly wanted a very specific aesthetic this time around and upon looking back at their catalog it is very easy to see that it has less to do about "talent per se" and more to do about fitting the visual/storytelling niche they want: which is something soft, inoffensive, and that appeals primarily to the teen demographic.

Its a bit of a morale hit, but things always bounce back.

>>84668679
>the visual/storytelling niche they want: which is something soft, inoffensive, and that appeals primarily to the teen demographic.

Yar, I saw that from their catalogue. That's how I knew that they wouldn't even give AfterDeath a care. It just isn't the place for it. Even though it might speak to teens (protagonist thrust into an unfamiliar world which demands they act responsibly and the hero goes on a journey of self-discovery on the road back to their seat of power), it's definitely aimed at adults.

>>84668679
And that really is the luxury of being an indie comic is that you can leave time to develop and give people what they want without being forced into the crunch of page limit.

I think MM can develop into a better product, just like everything else here, if given time to do so. I wouldn't say it is the best thing in the thread; primarily because it has so much room to improve. I sure as shit wouldn't claim my comic to be that either, simply by virtue of how many people like to shit on it; and because if I were that arrogant I'd probably dress nicer.

>>84668508
Everyone wants to feel important and like they're accepted; and being desired is a part of that certainly. We felt pretty good when pre-Dewd BluTrinity wanted the Sisters---and then we did some research and due diligence. Always feels nice to be wanted though.

>>84664564
An antagonist need not look villainous. Their actions just need to project the intent.

>>84668787
Yep, same thing here really. Such that it is.
Hiveworks would've been great, primarily because it'd just be last things we as creators had to take care of. But we're independents, and that means striking it out on our own and trying to make what we can of any given situation. But just because the potential gains would've been great doesn't mean it would've read well to the integrity of ones project. And anything they offered one can always do for oneself.

>>84664564
scares the shit outta me.

>>84667675
>having the same opinion as people whose decisions actually shape things means MY opinions shape things!
wouldn't it be nice if it worked that way? unfortunately, no

Wait, Spinerette is hosted on Hiveworks?
THE Spinerette?
One of the worst webcomics of all time Spinerette?

Fucking HOW?

>>84669084
Fanbase. Obviously.

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>>84667917
blog? I don't have one because I don't have access to the internet

Here's page 2. pls rate

>>84668508
only because pepe kept bringing it up six times a thread

>>84668679
>44 pages
... really? could have sworn it was like 14

>>84668679
>it has less to do about talent per se

lol

>>84669084
>One of the worst webcomics of all time
people need to learn that how bad something is is not directly related to how much it pissed you off. because being good followed by bad pisses you off worse than anything

>>84669291
Just recounted, 40 pages not including any covers. It does flow well, and quickly; but we're two issues in and don't really have much reason for investment in anyone or the setting. Which isn't to say you cannot be invested simply by virtue of MM being the protagonist, but rather there aren't any stakes being put forward that really propel the story forward; even Janice being caught out superheroing by her family is easily on both occasions.

>>84669394
jesus.
honestly i think i have a major problem with the standard comic page format. not enough happens on each page. it's a TON of effort on the artist's part because the quality is usually bumped up, but it's almost impossible to enjoy one page at a time and that's what breaks the camelback to me

>>84668195
>ScandinavianPrincess hasn't been seen in this thread for a long time
I'm surprised she posted at all, considering the high level art.

>>84669322
I know you're trying to start shit, but more than just "talent" factors into it. From a pure talent/quality/design standpoint, The Sisters is as good as anything on Hiveworks proper: but aesthetically and thematically it's not something they're looking for, same with MM.

>>84669714
The only person who matches you for more undeserved ego is Bones.

>>84669772
I don't know who you think you're talking to, but I'm not whoever that is.

As someone who just reads comics, I'm attesting to the fact that The Sisters is a comic that's of high quality by any reasonable objective merit of composure or craft. There's a lot of complaints to be leveraged towards a lot of comics here and their general quality, but when you're dealing with a comic of that sort of caliber it really is just a matter of taste and aesthetic preference

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More wips, is this too much?

Generally I want my comic to be a optimistic and bright outlook to it. Although one of the element is magical girls with PTSDs, I think it might take dealing with something like this to justify it. Although I don't know if its too jarring with the rest of the comic

I wonder how I can put blood curdling screams like ones from ME3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gL4XqkQOFU

How do I word it in onomatopoeia.

>>84669926
switching up the vowels a lot makes a scream look curdly to me.. a lot of aiaiaiaiaii in it

Thanks! Im hoping that when i eventually transition to long format + dialogue it will be easier to draw people in. As it is now I'm only confident in short narratives.

>>84669826
>>84669714
Yeah, this. The shitposter who goes around trying to act like there's no talent in these threads looks like an absolute chucklehead when Miss Melee and The Sisters have been around here for ages.

>>84669926
I can't really tell what's going on in this page...

>>84670116
On the contrary, if Miss Melee and Sisters is the best you can do, it rather proves my point.

>>84670154
So what comics in the thread do you like? Or if you don't like any of them, are you working on your own? If so, might we see your work? If not, then what do you gain from spending time here?

>>84670154
Never forget that we used to have the Kill Six Billion Demons guy posting here, but Abbadon just has better things to do than post here these days ;_;

>>84670154
>>84670243

Shit, I really do wish K6BD still posted progress to these threads so we would have definite means to tell this guy to fuck off

>>84670289
>>84670243
Maybe if we pray enough Abaddon will return and banish the shitposters forever

>>84670289
did that person really post here? because i know at least twice i confused sixbilliondemons with demon's mirror

>>84670335
I don't know if they posted here, but I do clearly remember them posting WIPs on /co/. I'm seconding >>84670227

>>84670335
Both used to post her years ago. I've seen both.

How do you feel about panty-shots, /hyw/?

>>84670439
I don't think Harro has stopped posting here entirely. It's sporadic, but I don't think it's been more than a few weeks since I last saw a post of his here.

>>84670528
Trying too hard to be Japanese.

>>84670528
oh here's this again

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Me just experimenting, last time Nep and crew was a homage of Blackcat, can you guess what classic villian she and her crew are a homage of this time?

>>84670901
i wanna say the villain from some old Go Nagai thing? I'm too mesmerized by the bizarre outfit robo arms kitty girl is wearing.. her pants.. why are they...

>>84670901
>"homage"

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Say, /hyw/, what's your least favorite part of the comic making process?
Personally, thumbnails drive me insane.

>>84670972
Thumbnails and coloring. I hate coloring most though. Takes ages and my attention span can barely handle it.

>>84670960
Nope, that ain't it.

Maybe someday.

>>84670972
drawing something fantastic and then having to draw it six more times in different, difficult positions
or worse, you intended them to be different and they turned out to be nearly the same

>>84670972
I don't bother with thumbnails.

Probably cleaning the inks.

>>84670528
I don't do panty shots unless there's a valid reason to show a woman's panties.

Panty shots for the sake of panty shots remind me of that horrible animation that Bones once did.

>>84670289
If Abaddon still posted here then I'd agree that there's one person here of professional quality that deserves to get published.

He's not here, so now there aren't.

>>84670972
Flatting. It's an incredibly tedious process that's all but devoid of creativity, and I'm pretty sure it takes me longer than it should to begin with. I'm a horrible colorist too, but at least that part is interesting.

Scanning and cleaning pages is pretty bad too, but it goes by quickly enough that it isn't a big deal.

>>84670528
Schrodinger's panties are superior.

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Drew up some more old characters in the new style. I'm still pretty happy with it all so far. I need to draw less slouching characters though.

>>84671249
Doing flats by hand is the whole reason I decided to stop drawings comics traditionally. Look of real ink is great but nothing can beat the convenience of fill bucketing in digital lines.

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>>84670972
Hair. It drives me batty - especially in scenes like this where it's flapping all about. I basically have to just give up and cheat - throwing lines around that look somewhat like hair.

>>84671179
Why are you here if you think the quality is so bad?

>>84671319
I can still fill bucket my inks, that's thankfully something I learned to sort out a while ago. I just end up with a lot of hatching and small details to fill in here and there, and dealing with it gets old pretty fast.

>>84671430
1. Just because a comic isn't professional quality, it doesn't mean it's not worth following or paying attention to.

2. Some people actually manage to improve as their work goes on.

3. I post my own work here and, rarely, get useful help. Though I wish there were more people who knew what they were doing, so the help could be better.

>>84671542
What does "professional quality" mean, anyway? There are a ton of comics that are published by major publishers that are worse written and/or worse drawn than some comics in here. "Professional quality" is far from an objective standard of measurement.

>>84671542
So you talked down everybody else to feel superior?

>>84671542
I know what I'm doing, but get BTFO'd half the time I write out a crit for somebody. I'd love to know which comic is yours but not foolish enough to ask you to out yourself in the thread.

I disagree that nobody is pro level here though. They just usually get fewer comments than those comics with more outstanding errors - and generally get discouraged when it turns into /pol/ and/or /dewd/.

>>84671542
>I post my own work here
So post it now. Right now.

>>84671810
I never claimed I was superior.

I claimed the comics published by Hiveworks were superior, but that goes without saying.

>>84672040
I'm not playing this game, anon. It's dumb, and beneath both of us.

I post my comic and you say "ha ha your comic sucks you're not better than any of us" even though that was never the issue.

Again, I've never said my comic was professional quality. Nor am I upset over sour grapes because I didn't get acceptance from Hiveworks.

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Just posted episode 7. I'm probably going to take another break and try to improve a bit more. Might possibly work on other projects during that time.

http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/undead-and-uneducated/ep-6-some-are-stronger-part-2/viewer?title_no=32422&episode_no=7

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>>84672150
>comics published by Hiveworks were superior
Are you really sure about that.

>>84672231
quite

>>84671542
Why are you so adamant disparage works like Miss Melee and Sisters which are, by all metrics, the same level of professional quality as anything else on Hiveworks when

A. The creators of both comics have shown literally no "salt" over being rejected
B. It has been outlined in great detail why their rejection was a matter of what Hiveworks looks for rather than quality

If you're not bitter?

>>84672150
>>84672231
>I never claimed I was superior.
If you were born in the third world country, you will be the kind of self loathing piece of shit that shitalk his own country 24/7 to show everyone how smart he is seeing the all the "flaws"

While simultaneously jerk off to and deify first world countries.

>>84671828
>>84671828
>I know what I'm doing, but get BTFO'd half the time I write out a crit for somebody.

Mild tangent, but please keep critting. Without saying who I am, I recently went to an in-person semi-pro animator thing, and their feedback was bleedingly obvious in hindsight but nobody here or anywhere online ever mentions it when they see my work. Long story short, I need to make a portfolio from scratch and like nothing I've done is remotely up to snuff.

I'm actually thinking of putting my comic on the back burner to properly study a few things, for what it's worth. I might elaborate on my situation in a later thread, but tonight I go to a figure drawing group for the first time in ages.

>They just usually get fewer comments than those comics with more outstanding errors - and generally get discouraged when it turns into /pol/ and/or /dewd/.

And yeah, goes without saying that our middle of the road people need way the fuck more feedback than they get.

>>84672272
I don't believe they are, by all metrics, the same level of professional quality.

And neither do the people at Hiveworks.

>It's been claimed that they were rejected not because of quality but because Hiveworks was looking in another direction

Yeah and some other guy claims he got rejected because of Joos and fat women, who are out to get him. Both are just dodges and excuses.

>if you're not bitter?

Bitter of what? I never got rejected, or had an ego to get deflated.

Bitter of MM and Sisters? Not at all. I hope, unlike some here, they reflect on why their comics were rejected, and improve upon them until one day they're good enough to publish.

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>>84670553

yeah I'm still floating around these threads- don't always have much to contribute, and since I don't have the extra time right now to post, wait for feedback, apply it, and then post again I think just spamming it is going to make people frustrated.

also sometimes the threads go in a helpful direction, and that makes me want to join the conversation, but if it goes into a less helpful direction I'll sit it out.

>>84672407
I know for a fact that they want something specific. I heard it from the horse's mouth when Hiveworks was just a glimmer in Jojo's eye.

If Sailor Moon got rejected from Shonen Jump, it wouldn't be for a lack of quality. If Bleach got rejected from Shojo Beat... same deal.

I have been offered enough professional opportunities to know my skill level isn't why I didn't get accepted. I'm not being egotistical - just realistic in the context of how my work has been received in the past.

>>84672231
Have any of you guys actually read this? It's kind of amazing how bad it is. It just makes me a little sad to see it sitting there next to Atomic Robo, Broodhollow, Harpy Gee, Parallax, Vibe, etc. and then a close friend of mine gets their awesome pitch turned down. I'm very interested in what it is that they're looking for specifically, I can't find much of a common thread between all of the comics on there.

>>84672718
expecting perfect fairness in everything is the mentality that gave us "you can't bring treats to school unless you brought enough for everyone"
it's socialism and it's not okay.
just don't read the cruddy comic, its ratings will go down, and it will go away

>>84672836
>"you can't bring treats to school unless you brought enough for everyone"
>it's socialism and it's not okay.

That's just called having manners, dipshit. Were you raised by wolves?

>>84672836
I'm not expecting "perfect fairness", my dude. I have no idea why you're bringing up socialism. I'm talking about quality. I know for a fact that other comics that were pitched & rejected are far better than some of the ones on Hiveworks, and I know that it's just the way it is and their review process is their own business, but what I'm saying is that it confuses me. I'm just very, very curious as to why Basinvale gets on Hiveworks but other better, more professional comics don't. It's about what specifically they're looking for and I'm wondering out loud as to what that could be.

>>84672590
My uncle told me that's not true. He works at Nintendo.

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>>84672718
I read through it during the Zamii incident, it's shockingly mediocre. Wonky perspective and weird anatomy all around.
For as much credit as Hiveworks gets, it's a mixed bag at times.There's a lot of mediocre art and boring story hidden behind the more popular titles, along with several abandoned/infinite hiatus comics.

>>84673016
Reminder that in any creative career, two VERY big parts of "making it" are who you know, and luck.

It's not "fair" but that's how life is.

And finished. Cover for this chapter's done and now I can move on from procrastination to actually inking the rest of the comic and stuff.

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>>84673157
How did I forget to attach the image. Blah.

>>84673151
I know the importance of connections & being at the right place at the right time, but I'm talking about the actual audition process. If they were just going to pick somebody they knew, then they wouldn't really need them to audition, would they?

>>84672937
some of us are hungrier than others.

>>84673016
i'm all for meritocracy too, but you can't be this surprised when bad taste means shittier things make it when better things don't

I never thought hiveworks was good, or something I'd want to be associated with. its reputation as being a bunch of trendy dumb crap preceded it.

>>84673290
I'm not saying that it's necessarily how it happened this time, but it may have been the case in the past. I can't really think of any other way to explain why there's Hiveworks comics that haven't updated in months.

Also, if you're doing hiring, and you have a choice between some rando and a friend that you know will keep in line with editorial policy, which would YOU choose?

>>84673393
>>84673419
True enough.

>>84673419
I wouldn't take a job deciding things that simply need to fall in line with editorial policy.

okay i would but i wouldnt like it. i need money.

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small comp of cartoons i am working on

still need a female VA for the 2nd cartoon though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQLiZdE52c

>>84674651
what do you need her to say

>>84675042
mainly just yelling in a foreign or made up language
That male VA I have has actual lines but the female I need only really has one
It's the yelling in a foreign language (or made up gibberish) that I need

>>84674651
what does comp mean this context

>>84675831
compilation
only 2 things, not really a compilation

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Space Cunts 7

>>84676825
The bit with dave made me laugh.

>>84676825
you cheeky wazzock and other british things

>>84676825
I think the second panel with Liz on the toilet would work better if you could see Kevin before she reacts to him.
Other than that, it's totally on point.

>>84677247
yeah i agree, and there's room for it too, if you move that panel over a tad into the empty space left by the previous one

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It's a weird one.

ennuigo.smackjeeves.com

>>84677339
that... actually makes a lot of sense.
nice touch on the shoulder stitching

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>>84677339

>>84664564
I think you need to leave

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>>84677439
Shit nigga forgot the pic

>>84676825
r32 of Liz pissing when?

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>>84677339
>loonking at first strips
Did she gave herself a boobjob at some point or did he breast just increased as your artstyle changed, or is it spoiler warning?

>>84677501
>r32
What? Rule 32 is 'pics or it didn't happen'.
... you disgust me.

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I hope you guys don't mind me dropping four pages at once, but I could really use some advice for making this sequence more interesting, especially on a visual level. Right now it's pretty boring, with just a lot of shots of faces, nothing happens on the second page, and the last page I can't even come up with what should be happening for the most part. Transcript in case it's illegible.

10
Skalmöld: O-our deepest apologies, allfath-
Odin: Nevermind.

Odin: I have called you here
Odin: Because I have a task for you

Skalmöld: We're deeply honored, King of Kings
Odin: Far from here, where Alfheim borders Niflhel, there is a king of elves by the name of X

Odin: Soon, a giant shall come to his court,
Odin: An envoy of Surt, lord of fire and darkness.
Odin: You will go there and speak on my behalf.

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>>84677955

11
Skalmöld: That is a high honor
Frigg: Indeed.

Frigg: Valkyries.
Frigg: The King has given you your task.

Skalmöld: Then,
Skalmöld, By your leave

Skeggöld: Um,

Skeggöld: Actually.
Skeggöld: I have a question.

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>>84677980
12
*need to include a good view of Skalmöld silently losing her shit behind Skeggöld.*
Skeggöld: I mean-
Skeggöld: Skalmöld and I aren't diplomats,

Skeggöld: And I don't know about Skalmöld, but I've never even been to Alfheim

Skeggöld: So it seems strange to, when tehre are elven valkyries and

Skeggöld, in a very small font: and

Skeggöld: -

Skeggöld: -And don't all the kings of Alfheim sewar fealty to lord Freyr?

Skeggöld: So I just don't see what makes us more qualified.
Skeggöld: That's all.

Big wolf: snff snff
Odin: Skeggöld.

Odin: Are you
Odin: Questioning me?

>>84677533
Officially it can be chalked down to Izzy gaining weight.

Unofficially it is because I am a dingus.

>>84677955
Just give Skeggi googly eyes for the whole conversation.

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>>84678007
13
Skeggöld: Not at all, my king
Skeggöld: I'm just, confused -
Skeggöld: I don't think I understand the task you're giving me and I don't want to fail you.

Odin: Hnh.

Odin: Skeggöld, Skeggöld, Skeggöld.

Odin: I AM a god.
Odin: It would behoove you to have a little FAITH.

>>84678034
Turns out I can't count to 5.
14
Odin: I have faith in you, after all.

Odin: I know you better than anyone.
Skeggöld: Well, I-

Odin: I am giving you this task because I know you will perform it to my satisfaction.

Odin: Now, go prepare. You leave in the morning.
Skeggöld: ...As you say.

Odin: Oh
Odin: Wait a moment.

Odin: ...Ah,
Odin: You're quite right.

Odin: Mimir reminds me.
Odin: Don't bring the raven.

Odin: I will have the Bifröst prepared to take you to the lands of X. You go by land from there.
Odin: And now that really WILL be all.

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>>84678100
and I can't post images either oh god

>>84678027
There are only like three panels where you can see both of her eyes at once, though.

>>84678017
okay, thanks.

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>>84678034
Here's one easy fix.

>>84678007
Why is the text over the crotch sniffing dog and why do some of the panels in the other pages only have words.

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Howdy. I've always wanted to start working on a comic but i never know how to structure or format panels. Like whenever i try to draft for an action scene i never know how to show an image without making it conviluted. I'm also practicing on my art skills as well.

>>84678371
You're tenacious, I'll give you that.

>>84678587
Because I didn't think of that and because I don't know what to aim the camera at in those panels, respectively.
Also wow it really does look like it's sniffing her crotch in that panel. That's not quite as threatening as I wanted.

>>84677955
>niflhel
oh shiiiiiiii

>>84678767
it's supposed to be threatening? i mean when a wolf sniffs you he's just being friendly. also a wolf that only goes up to crotch height on a midget like skeggy is hard to take seriously as a threat. i've had labradors bigger than that. now, if it was reaching its head up to sniff her neck, THAT would make me nervous.

anyway I don't think there's anything wrong with a few dialogue-heavy pages, I think you can just simplify some backgrounds and push through these quickly. the reader won't think "jesus this has been going on for four fucking pages", they'll remember it as one or two. in particular >>84678034 this one is so damn powerful despite getting the least accomplished in one page. I think it's fine.
Plus so much in this comic has been implied, it'll be refreshing to get some straight-up laid-down dialogue

>>84678709
There's no magic formula to action scenes but here are some tips I've picked up. Heed the 180 degree rule, it makes action scenes much easier to read. Use wide and full body shots to keep the movement and positions of your subjects clear. Use panel size/shape to control the pacing of the action, big panels for important moments or longer scenes/shots, and smaller panels for little details, like someone getting grazed by a bullet.
Really, the best way to learn how to do action is to read some action comics. Whenever I'm stumped on an action scene I start looking through some shounen manga on my shelf.

>>84680452
>action
now there's a time when the 180 rule is totally valid and important to keep an eye on. You could get totally lost if you constantly rotate the camera like that

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Comics + booze

>>84681189
fuck comics

>>84679806
Well, it's probably fine so long as they don't actually go there. The dead can't get motivated to be much of a threat outside of their borders.

>>84680086
Well, not a direct threat, but the implication that things could get really ugly really fast - the wolf was supposed to read as slowly circling around Skeggöld's back, sizing her up.

I'm not super worried about having the scene take up too many pages - it's more that it's not a very interesting presentation of what's happening. This page >>84677980 is the only one I feel like too little is happening, but on the other hand, I really want to keep the page transition where Skalmöld freaks out because Skeggöld is about to open her big dumb mouth.

>>84678709
I won't claim to be very good at structuring panels, but for keeping action readable, here's a few rules of thumb that I've found very useful.
When in doubt:
>pull the camera out so you can see more of the situation
>show the action in profile
>limit the amount of things happening in a single panel
Doing this has the drawback of slowing things down and taking away impact in the image, but I'd recommend always erring on the side of clarity.

Also, if you don't know what the "line of action" is, look it up and learn to love it.

>>84681323
Why not both?

>>84681189
oh i see, regular cider's not GOOD ENOUGH for you eh? mr fancy real ink and ruler-drawn panel borders

>>84681345
it's funny how i hate pulling the camera back lately, because it means i have to draw a ton more background, and my characters look worse and are harder to draw the smaller I go
with your style everything's a painting so zooming out is great

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>>84682677
Hey, a treat's a treat.

Also we do wibbly borders as well.

>>84683977
and shiny bumpy paints, yes. you do everything. and you do it pretty well

Would you read a webcomic biography of Donald Trump?

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WIP of the next page!

I was busy working on this page at Metrocon, and that didn't have internet connection, so that's why it has a little bit color

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Oh right, the Sisters updated. Another 4 pages, the end of The Old Flame, next week we've got the start of The Little Death.

This week, Aethon calls out for his master and is really unhappy with the progress humanity has made since he got stuffed in his jail. Plus a character who'll be a lot more fun come next issue.
http://thesisters-comic.com/
https://tapastic.com/episode/407262

I'm personally very happy to be done with this issue because it sucks to have to set things up to establish the new status quo; but unlike our first arc that took multiple issues to establish things, this only took one. Which is, better. Next story arc gets set-up during this arc, so should be an even easier transition.

Plus, script-wise, pretty sure next week starts on some Craig filming his show. Which is always fun.

>>84677339
I like it. It reminds of like, Rick Astley if he were a tooth monster.

>>84669926
I like that second panel. A lot.

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>>84684109
If it was mostly objective with some humor mixed in (that would appeal to both left and right) I'd read it.

You should check out Steven Weissman's stuff - pic related.

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>>84684910
stevenweissman.tumblr.com

>>84684183
ohhh it's that guy

>>84684805
gnar. i like that i'm actually able to understand what the fuck they're talking about through all that totally believable demon noise

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>Fucked the scanned picture because you didn't realize you were doing so in black and white instead of color or even grey scale.
>Being too lazy to scan again.
>Applying some filters hoping to fix the mess.
>Ending up recoloring / digitally inking the whole page because you really don't like the filtered product.
>All for a work you really don't want to be serious.

And this is why I'm working at snail pace.
I deserve pain and despair.

>>84685756
What did you do to ruin the scan so badly? Scanning and cleaning my pages takes around 15 minutes at the worst, I can't imagine redoing the inks entirely just to fix a scan.

>>84685756
>black and white instead of grey scale
i don't understand the difference but I do know the horror of an image that's stuck in one mode and refuses to change

>>84686241
Lots of bad erased pencil lines and forgetting to switch the scan config to greyscale, really. It's a 20yo scanner, but I doubt that does have anything to do with my mess. I guess I'll leave some "gradient" lines (I must admit, some of them look fitting for shadows and other textures I'm using).

>>84686431
The difference is that, when you set your inage in "B&W" mode, your bitmap only works with two colours, while in greyscale, it works with way more colour depth (I cannot remember if it was 256 different greys for an 8 bits picture).

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>>84677458
melons

>>84669187
So is this what happens when liberals win? /pol/ where you at???

>>84686630
whoa you mean it actually gave you a solid aliased black and white? neat. i guess that would save on putting that filter on, if you could change its sensitivity

>>84686630
>inage
image

Funny how chrome marked greyscale in my box but not that.

>>84686709
Yes, but unfortunately, you cannot choose which range goes to black and which one goes to while. It's more like converting the gradients in one pic into irregular patterns. So you really need to clean your work before scanning, with a very clear lineart.

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>TFW your borders are veeeeeeeeeeery slightly crooked

>>84686871
yeah. or scan in a proper state then just do the filtering yourself. i guess that setting is for preserving the look of scanned books

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old one, a little concerned about third panel's dialogue. thots?

>>84686630
I don't even erase my pencil lines, but I imagine that's a horrible idea depending on how you ink or pencil. Spending a little extra time with the levels tool in PS and a little spot erasing takes care of whatever pencils make it into the scan for me.

>>84686926
Actually, it is the more efficient way of scanning papers and books if you want to be lightweight but still readable. It gives you great contrast if the typography is already clear, and you can came up with ridiculously light PDFs.It will not look "pretty" tho.

>>84687036
I really should've done better from the start.

>>84687272
If it's a frequent problem, you could try penciling with a harder lead or do all the pre-ink work in tones that won't scan to minimize it. Or adjust how you clean your scans, I guess. I have no idea how most folks do it, but it's certainly possible to make things worse when trying to separate the pencils from the inks. Especially if you want to have solid black, aliased lines when you're done.

>>84678709
Kinda related, but a few days ago I found this channel on Youtube about analyzing comic panel composition and flow and I think it's interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYJAToPH5GSGShP7Yoc3jsA

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ALRIGHT YOU MOTHER HELLHUMPERS

I CAN'T WRITE AND DONT HAVE ANY SKILL AT ALL DESU

I USE MS PAINT BECAUSE THATS ALL I CAN AFFORD

BUT TELL ME

BE HONEST WITH ME NIGGAS

AM I FUCKING READY FOR HIVEMIND-- HIVEWORKS YET?

>>84687017
It could use a "it's"
or "this basic joy of life is now something i can only know.."

>>84687540
I'm sketching this comic with coloured pencils, I scan the sketch, and then draw with my graphite pencils (HB to 2B) or the black coloured pencil over a whited printed sketch page. After that, I ink it with markers, and then erase the pencil lines and scan the finished page again.

It worked for the other pages (for which I did have to fix minor stuff), but this one got messy.

Don't worry, anons. In fact, I think I'm enjoying my time cleaning my mess now. I must be a masochist.

>>84688203
Sometimes work like that can be pretty relaxing, even if it is pretty time consuming. I'm curious though, if you work at a size you can print at to begin with, why not scan and print the pencils in a light blue (or whatever) and ink over that to avoid erasing entirely?

>>84687672
looking good, anon. keep it up

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>tfw you're worried your fetishes are becoming too obvious in your webcomic

>>84687672
I'm sorry but you'll need profession skills to work for hiveworks.

Don't worry. Nobody else has them here either.

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>>84688579
>TFW pulling a Tarantino

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>>84688579
What are your fetishes?

>>84688692
Panties, thigh highs and panty-pissing.

>>84688777

>panty-pissing

yeah guy, that's probably pretty obvious

>>84688922
I haven't included it in my comic. yet.

>>84689149
...Can you show it to us?

>>84689149
I've done worse. Thank god I didn't go with my original ideas.

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>>84688447
I tried to do, but my printer products a not very blueish blue: it's too dark and dirty, even when I ask the printer to nicely print some very light blues.

This is how it looks for every other page (well, other pages are a bit mor dirty, but I wanted them that way).

>>84688777
>Thigh-highs
Literally /d/ tier fetishes, seek a therapist

>>84689270
That's fair, at least erasing some pencil lines isn't too bad to begin with.

That scan does look quite a bit cleaner than mine do before I go over them and clear up all the stray pencil marks I end up with. I've never tried doing any pencil tones like that bottom panel though. Do you ever work around those and bring all the inks to a solid black, or do you stick with the tones you've got there?

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Update. Should've Worn the Brown Pants Edition.

>>84690486
>a haunting two-note musical phrase plays on a korchian native instrument as the savage maw looms

>>84690124
That foot gradient is black coloured pencil as it is (graphite pencils turn alright too, but it's hard to achieve scannable black even with 5Bs). I inked the line cropping the upper panel and the rest of the page with solid black, and then I tweaked levels in photoshop after to match markers and pencils. I could've used black watercolour or gouache, but I really want that disty, textured pencil effect. It doesn't look nice itself until I fix both blacks to look the same.

>>84690581
>gradient
I mean tone.

Tone is always with pencils. Solid is always with markers and, sometimes, pencils over then to fill blanks and correcting thickness (I'm using cheap paper and too much ink is a no-no).

I hope I'm being clear enough. I'm sleepy and my English is worse by minutes

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I think I'm nearly done. Any thoughts?

>>84690772
Yeah, that was all clear enough. Charcoal pencils for a deeper black, but I have no idea if that would still produce the texture you want. Very prone to smearing too, from what I recall.

Interesting that you chose markers over tech pens or something, but ink can definitely ruin cheap paper. Trying to use my quills or brush on the cheap sketch pads I've got lying around doesn't usually go very well.

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finished the cover I was working on, now moving on to site design. should be able to finish the layout this weekend, and then start posting the comic next week. provided I can trial and error my way through the html. I won't do anything fancy, probably just use some template and edit stuff slightly.

>>84690974
her head seems to be changing thickness a lot but i'm okay with it. just something to keep an eye on.
hehe, pocky wins again

>>84690974
linewidth is all over the place. not much variance in panels. try to experiment with different perspectives and scenes.

>>84687886
i like 'this', thanks guy

>>84691090
I've not used charcoal pencils in ages, but I can try (with a more grainy paper and spraying a fixative before scanning it, it may look nice for certain part of the story, actually). Thanks for the idea, anon.

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how can i make this guy edgier?

>>84691497
Purple.

>>84677439
Why's that?

>>84691497

A sword maybe?

>>84690974
Why on fucks earth would you put the dialogue over the characters?

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>>84693074

the angle of the fat guys arm in the fifth panel makes it look like he's suddenly wearing a t-shirt. Otherwise a great foreshortening. Also consider coloring in the thugs outfits in that panel, it kinda look like the skinny guy is naked.

>>84693259

You could fix the t-shirt thing by making the cuff of the shirt smaller around the guys wrist.

>>84693074
in my opinion this would look way better if you upped the base linewidth by like 1-2 pixels.

>>84693259
Didn't notice the shirt, they do look bare on the page.

>>84693351
I still struggle with line weight, I have an idea of what looks good, but can't yet execute. I'll try that though.

>>84693450
The issue is that the lineweight should be thicker the closer you are to the camera. In that page your figures all have thin lines, while the background has thicker lines, which looks strange.

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>>84677339
Every woman drawn in this comic caters to a fetish of mine.

What makes you read a webcomic?

>>84694684
Good art. Waifus.

>>84693648
Good.

>>84694684

An appealing consistent aesthetic, good characters/interactions, clever writing and stylish crazy action stuff.

I have yet to find one

>>84694684
A neat premise and entertaining dialogue/characters.

I can forgive a lot in the art department if the writing is funny.

>>84694808
Any that comes close?

>>84695256

Yeah there's a couple that does it for me in individual aspects but I haven't found any that does it all well.

Good thing manga exists.

>>84694684
Boredom. Why would I read something that's very likely bad on several levels, with new chapter coming out at most three times per year?

>>84695518
Why not do literally anything else if you're going to just be a faggot about it?

>>84694698
waifus sure are important

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I am working on a webcomic with a few friends, how do you like the charactor designs? The girl is Fiona, the golem is Rarthorn and Ill show a few concepts.
The comic will be called "Freaks of Magic"

>>84696519

what golem?

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>>84696519

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>>84696537
Were still getting used to the drawing tablets, so we need to learn a few more tricks.

>>84696519
Cute, but very generic. The design is alright, but she looks like plenty other ocs I've seen before.

>>84696569
I cri, but thanks

>>84670972
Coloring usually takes a ton of time. Paneling is irritating, but if I like the end result enough, then I usually don't mind it.

>>84669926
>second panel

Is it coming out of a vagina

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>>84664564
looks like autistic mass shooter

>>84690974
That house looks fucking tiny.

>>84686925
There are straight line tools in all digital arts programs you dumb feelposter.

>>84696537
>>84696519
NEEDS STAR PUPILS

>>84699733
heart pupils*

>>84699778
no, that's for lewds

Don't you die on me, /hyw/.

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on one hand my comic didnt get accepted into hiveworks, but on the other ive been getting more views and got my first fanart this last week, so i'd have to say things are going well

http://www.junkyardheroes.com/

>>84696551
plural artists? that's cool
hey don't I remember you from something? maybe i'm thinking of someone from zoids forum

How soon till we know the rest of the comics that HW accepted?

>>84703076
could be weeks.

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Time for a manicure?

>>84696537
Are you sure you want the golem to have so much green? He tends to blend in with the grass here, and I imagine your comic will have a lot of grassy fields like this, so I'm not sure that it's a good color choice.

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>>84703520

>>84703076
Hopefully never. I don't want /hyw/ to be shit again.

>>84704509
So then leave and never come back.

Ok, check this out.
Romantic comedy.
Hitler as a depressed artist in Alt History 50's finding love with a new budding teen writer, Anne Frank.

Adolf & Anne.

>>84704573
You first, senpai.

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Ok, how about now.

>>84704958
That house in a way reminds me of Groverhaus from the Something Awful forums.

>>84704958
Are they supposed to talk like retarded 12 y.o. fourchanners?

>>84704609
guaranteed tumblr replies

>>84706509
>weebs
>writing dialog

>it's a "/hyw/ is dead" episode

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New Mimi is huge yet again

>>84711240
Very nice.

>>84711240
>you will never push on Mimi's stomach while she's sleeping
Lucky cat.

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Finished this page!

>>84714011
you should consider adding some color/texture to the action words. The lack presence.

>Writing story.

>Someone does what you were doing except better than you could have imagined.


How come this happens every time.

>>84714480
Stop comparing yourself to others.

>>84714706

Shit, how do I do that?

>>84714480
Every story has been done, kill yerself and be done with it.

>>84714968
By being too busy with your shit.

>>84714968
think of yourself as just another one of the others. you don't compare people to other people, do you?

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>>84715233
>you don't compare people to other people, do you?

>>84715385
i mean, in a condemning way
you judge one to be better than the other but you don't start being an asshole to the worse one, right?

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>>84715724
only online

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Worked on conceptual outfits and such to help filling out the comic when background characters appear.

>>84704958
So, amonzone said he would draw some lewd fanart of Becky and he did it, the absolute madman

https://images-1.discordapp.net/.eJwNxssNwyAMANBdGAAHMFBy7CaIIBLlY4SdQ1V19-ad3lfd41CzWkU6zwDLxoXGollo5FZ1I2pHzX1jXeiELJLLetZLGAw674N10U4hYjIvD89MdAEniw6NTcnBu5b9o_vV1O8PvPAhsg.bFDVmFy1_ULpzpL8PKvcBMa8etM.png

>>84716400
To start with, it's good to see someone actually attempting to design characters instead of just throwing them in. I like most of what you've got here.

Urchin and farmer are looking too rich. Farmer shouldn't have elastic, so that skirt's gotta be a pretty precise fit regardless of whether she's had a lean season. Urchin's fabric looks soft, flowy, and expensive, and again might fit too well. Never mind that I'm not sure what's causing it to hug the body in that manner.

Is the traveler wearing a hat? A hood? It's not clear from the image you have here.

Is the smith wearing a full apron, or does it only come up to the waist with a separate chest piece underneath? Are all the features you drew visible from the top, or are we seeing through the apron as it seems we were seeing through the traveler's cloak?

Are you planning to vary the bodies of your NPCs as well? Malnutrition and hard labor do things to you. On the flip side, clergy and nobility might get a little pudge sometimes.

Also, not sure I've seen much of your work here. Can I get a link, and what's your setting generally like?

what happened to the fjordson chick

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>>84717943
Mm, lots of things I want to respond to in this post - but I'm presently working on a character concept on-stream so I can only answer so much haha.

I have trouble with loose, flowy, garments yeah. Part of the reason why I'm doing these exercises. I'll quickly go over the rest. Traveler: hood, needs improvement yeah. Smith: It's overalls with front pockets, over a flannelish material. Visible from the top?

Planning to vary bodies yeah. This was original some attempts to give my main character a costume - figured I'd keep the work of designing these costumes at least and apply them to other NPCs. Also is helping me figure out the fashion sense of that part of the world.

I work on AfterDeath, which you can find here: http://afterdeath.the-comic.org/comics/

Generally, it's a dark fantasy world with an active pantheon that's built on the bones of a super-tech fallen civilization.

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Quick question , does this character look more like a main character or a side character?

i came up with this idea>>84691196
in another thread just for fun, and now i feel like i could use this design for a side character that i had written but not designed yet in my comic

so i decided to redraw it and trow in some of the stuff i had written for the side character and i got this

but i also feel like i could keep developing the original idea and make it into another thing separate from the webcomic

so i guess it all depends on what kind of vibe this character gives to other people

>>84718785
Could go either way, depending on what the other characters look like.

>>84718593
>loose flowy garments
I think the larger issue is that poor folks usually have stiff fabric and a poor fit. Generally this just means it gets fastened and bundled somewhere, and you're not likely to have well defined breasts or like.. a belly button showing. Unless they're exposed.

You want to show nips and belly button and uncomfortably outlined dicks on tacky new rich types in Rome.

>>84704609
I actually really love this, just make sure the comedy remains grounded and doesn't focus too much on the meta aspect or just go straight for shock value. More romance than comedy, is what I mean. The idea of two figures who affected the world immensely in one universe having little to no impact on the world around them in another and having a completely different relationship from our world is really damn compelling. I really want you to make this happen and deliver on the potential present in the concept.

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>>84719301

>>84717220
he beat me to it!
is that her correct hair color? I basically don't even try fanart until a comic has properly started so I actually have finalized designs to go by. Not after that sharkbrawler fanart I put so much work into and his design changed immediately afterwards
not that i haven't been guilty of changing designs right after people do great fanart. or right in the middle of it. but that's just clothes

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Trying to get back into the semi-regular update business. Almost done with sketching out all the panels.

Introducing new character whose design has been in my sketchbook quite a while.

>>84718521
Allegedly she went back to school and stopped work on her comic.

Can't confirm myself.

>>84718593
flowing cloth is really hard. You have the basics at least. You have to practice folds and soft-folds, things that are ripples or near-ripples from where things gently curvedly fold over themselves. it helps sometimes to draw the bottom curve first, then mentally follow it up as you draw the folds