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How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #298

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Share your comic with others!
Link your website and portfolio!
Critique and comment on others' work!
Previous thread: >>84566910
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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics
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>>84612757
Please remove Skype chat from the OP and replace it with Discord link.
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>>84612906
I don't think you can do that since the discord links sort of expire often?

Does anyone frequent the skype chat anymore anyways?
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>>84612985
You can generate Discord links that don't expire IIRC.
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>>84613007
If that's possible, then it'd be neat.
By the way, what if we make some sort of site where we put all the resources neatly organized and just link there each thread?
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>tfw you get the hiveworks rejection email and it reads "please don't send us any more submissions, ever"
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I'm gonna post the drafts for our new Gaia page in this and the next posts. This page is very unusual for us since several major revisions were necessary.

Sketch No. 1

The large panel of this first sketch eventually became the last panel of the previous page in a reduced format.
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Sketch No. 2
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Sketch No. 3
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Sketch No. 4
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Inked version
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Finished page
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What happened to the last thread?
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>>84614262
whoa!!! how the fuck did you make those rainbows so fucking shiny? that's beautiful. they look... icy somehow
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>>84614383
what do you mean?
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>>84614279
So many fingers were harmed. Also necks.
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reposting from last thread

>>84614279
looks awesome.
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>>84614383
It went to a better place due to old age.
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>>84614430

I'm only the writer of the comic. I'm not familiar with my artist's process to create a specific special effect.
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>>84614575
Will you ever answer these questions? http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/84398690/#84405161 http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/84347888/#84394673
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>>84614588

>1
I don't know. Maybe because our website is not designed to work particularly well on mobile devices and those become more and more important.

>2
I was very confident that the cover will look very good.
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>>84614872
Or maybe it has something to do with this. http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/84398690/#84405200
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>>84613519
the whole hiveworks thing is fucking hilarious. if you look at the accepted people they all have the same cartoony style type that hiveworks masturbates to. hiveworks doesn't even want to humor your shit if it doesn't look like it came from cartoon network's scrotum, lmao.
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>>84614968
Has anyone here gotten accepted yet?
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>>84614968
Who got accepted? Did they announce that?
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>>84614968
Just how sour are those grapes?
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>>84615037
>>84615388
Nah he's just going full /pol/.
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>>84614575
oh hey it's you
so you work with two different artists on two comics eh
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>>84615432
I was gonna say. As much as I don't like Hiveworks, they do have some comics that stand out. Most do have a similar look though.
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>>84614930
dude shut the fuck up. I didn't post that so you could keep reposting it every time Novil shows up, badgering her to answer your insipid questions
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>>84615037
Nobody here will ever get accepted
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>>84615565
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>>84615626
Especially not you, feelsposter scum.
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>>84615565
Fair enough. Nobody here is any good.
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>>84615474
Nah, same artist.

>>84615496
>her
Oliver's a boy's name, even in Germany. You're thinking of Powree, the artist.
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>>84615565
Don't you accept me?
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>>84615680
I remember when the fjordson person used to post here. That was som top dollar quality.

I feel like all the good regulars are gone now though. They've all left us for the discord chat
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>>84615687
wow, powree's versatile in style then.
where did the nickname novil come from then? to me it just sounds like a medicine, and you just in general sound like a girl. but that sense is wrong like a third of the time, so.
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>>84615693
No
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>>84615716
Art was great. Story was plodding and boring as fuck.
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Does anyone know what ever happened to the Webcomic Overlook? It was my favorite webcomic review site but one day El Santo just disappeared. He used to write articles for CBR too but he hasn't done one in almost two years. His twitter is barren too. Where did he go?
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>>84615693
Submission: declined
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>>84616143
>>84615739
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>>84615565
I'm really, really wondering who got accepted because a friend of mine (outside of here) submitted a SUPER cool pitch and only got a "you made it to the final selection process but sorry we didn't pick you" email. I thought for sure she was going to get picked.
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>>84616172

That GIF is completely terrible
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>>84616194
If you go check on twitter there's a couple people who have been offered interviews.
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>>84616247
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>>84616296

That (you) says otherwise.

I care about you too
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>>84616378
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>>84616194
Oddity Woods and Goodbye to Halos are the only ones who were accepted for interviews that I know of so far. I think people are holding off on announcing it to the world until it's actually official.
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>>84614968
Sure, it sucks if you don't have a similar style, but as a reader it's nice that there are websites with certain types of content you're into.
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>>84615565
It's not a big deal to me. My plan for webcomic success (assuming it's achievable) never included Hiveworks. It would be a nice boost, for sure, given the massive readership of HW, but getting rejected isn't even a speed bump.

>>84616600
This. Hiveworks uses contracts and it'd be stupid to announce you were accepted before even looking at the contract. There's a chance some people are going to disagree with the terms in the contract and turn it down.
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This page is clear as to what's going on, right?
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>>84616879
I think the feet should be down if the raven's that close to the ground. The feet are up at the "wings are up still airbraking" stage. source: watched lots of birds landing.
right now it just looks like he's having a cute human-style sit.

anyway, as for the events.. yeah. they landed at the national library of congress, got a handshake from the king of books, then his brother the marquis of reading is showing them the way to the pillar room
as they sheepishly enter, david bowie comes up, but then he's gone, and they're just walking around checking out all the pillars while crowds of people playing hide-behind-the-pillars watch them. the pillarpope watches too
finally, jesus and his pal lawrence of arabia, sharing a big throne.. like stupidly high up, like he's going to be painting the ceiling, address the two and berate them for their lateless. it's not their fault of course as the national library is just that impressive, and their bird is a lot less fuel efficient than his own bird, who sits on the throne begging for cheetos
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http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/undead-and-uneducated/ep-5-some-are-stronger/viewer?title_no=32422&episode_no=6

feed back would be great, just finished this after a busy few weeks.
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>>84617204
Why can't you post the actual page here? I don't want to click that.
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I don't think I would've even gotten into Hiveworks if I had submitted this year. And even getting in didn't jumpstart my career. Still got rejected from Oni and other folks.

Anyway lot of y'all do get work. I wouldn't even be where I am without coming here and /co/ in general. Keep up the goodness.
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If you ever feel bad about not getting into Hiveworks just remember that Miss Melee wasn't good enough but this was considered exactly what they were looking for this round
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>>84617682
cause its 11 pages in one album.
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>>84618654
That's childish, broski.
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>>84618654
Where did you find that?
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Just to drive the point home:

"Try again next year"...
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>>84618654

I don't even know what's going on. But are they lesbians?
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>>84618841
...for this, but...
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>>84618891
..this right here? Your next Hiveworks approved comic in syndication.

The deck is stacked, guys. Don't even bother.
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>>84616965
Sounds about right.
But seriously
>got a handshake
It doesn't actually look like Skalmöld's shaking the guy's hand, right?
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>>84618654
>>84618891
>>84618925
I appreciate the support but please don't drag my comic into this.
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>>84618925
But it doesn't look bad at all. You may not agree with me, but I think both comics are at a similar level as far as visuals go. It only shows that Hiveworks prefer certain styles over the others. No need to sperg about it.
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>>84618859
How did you ever guess??
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>>84618925
>>84618654
This looks fine.
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>>84619187
>tfw brown girls and lesbians are being overused and ruined by tumblr
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>>84618760
normally i'd agree but jeeeesus, look at this
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>>84619095
oh now that i've looked more closely, she's holding her OWN hand.
I'm sure once this is finished up, that ambiguity won't be there
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>>84619346
I don't see the problem other than I don't particularly care for the style personally. It's fine. The colors are harmonious. I have no idea what the story is about from 2 pages.
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>>84619343
don't forget tv.
remember subtlety and innuendo? i miss those.
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>>84615680
>>84615716
show your comics.
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>>84619417

Where do you think those people who worked on those shows came from?
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>>84619453
nyoh my god
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Team tumblr, fuck /pol/.
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>>84619695
Sexy Verse. Pay someone to Porn this.
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>>84619958

I'm paying for enough porn as it is. Just wait until the site makes more money. I'll just churn out porn like nothing.

...someday...
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>>84619343
There will never be too many brown lesbians
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>>84620222
>tfw you're a brown lesbian irl
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>>84619695
que
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>>84621016
london
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Don't die on me, you faggot thread!!!
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Pages 1 and 2 of my comic project, currently untitled.
I made a post way back about the scanner I was using, and after a few runs I think I got the hang of it, so it's not as bad as I said it was, but it turned out to be frustrating.

I'm actually not too pleased with the text boxes and their placement, except for the last block. So I'm really open to suggestions on that. I also don't mind drawing more panels if you really think it would be an improvement.
The panel about "TV," I really have no idea what to put in there.
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>>84623908
no idea? you put south park in it, it looks perfect to me.
this is pretty cool so far. i'll be interested in where you take it. if YOU can think of a solution to this, maybe a solution exists.
haha who am i kidding it'll be aliens or something
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>>84623908
Looks good to me. All I'd recommend is cleaning up your ink so it's a little less scribbley and fixed-width. That's just my style preference talking though because I like to make sure all my important elements pop out by giving them thicker lines.
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>>84623908
>NEET protag
Dropped.

The comic looks fine tho
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>>84624169
Okay, I think I'll stick with South Park then.
Aliens aren't a bad idea.

>>84624282
I tried doing that on panel 1 of the second page, but then I got lazy haha. I'll clean it up in photoshop later, and attempt some colors too.

>>84624432
Aw, well that's okay.
Will you still give me tips/critique during the times when a page needs it? I think it'll be good to consider suggestions from a diverse audience.
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>>84623908
I think it looks great. Even though it's true, I refuse to believe anyone would own one of those pillows.
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>>84624739
I would if they were cheap and bore the correctly-rendered image of any of my waifu
but they aren't and they don't.
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>>84624609
yer always welcome here, brah
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>>84624739
>calling that a pillow

Step it up, senpai.
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>>84624739
I own one. I don't care what society thinks anymore.
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>>84625017
Who's your waifu?
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>>84624609
I just don't see how anyone can get out of a rut like that without an outside force rescuing them
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Last minute cover to volume 1 of West Tree Academy of Heroes.
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>>84624739
negro pls, stay pleb af, /co/mblr
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>>84625243
it's called an eviction
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>>84625243
>tfw no misaka to rescue you from your NEET ways
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>>84625243
In the 1st world, you cab afford to be that "messed up," in the real world, outside that suburban middle class bubble, shit wrecks you pretty quick.
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Anon who enjoys to work just for fun until early in the morning reporting slow advances in its shitty fancomic. I think I'll end doing the not-secuencial panels with a different and dirty coloring style. I'll also paint over the borders with an artistic brush: I like the feeling it gives to the forth pic.

Thanks for hearing and helping me before, anons.
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>>84625940
Only certain people n the first world can manage it.
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>>84625587
>If I'm late for drills again, ol' Colonel Square-fingahs is gonna kill me.
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>>84625763
nah then a more mundane miracle saves you and then you dig DEEPLY into that rut so nothing can ever extract you again
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>>84625940
eh, it's pretty easy to squeak by depending where you live, on a shitty part-part-part-time online job. or just with parents. or on disability.
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A old but classic joke.
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>>84625069
Panty from P&S. Not that it really matters who's on it DESU, the slip is interchangeable and I mostly use it to fap to ghetto-VR stuff. I made my own google cardboard thing.
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>>84626821
>tfw you remember QI bringing this up and it being some manner of twist but you canna remember what it was
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>>84626831
>VR fapping
wouldnt the image of the girl be too close to your face to see anything except like the view over one of her shoulders, if you were in a position where you could hug a body pillow? and if you only straddled it, you wouldn't need the length and any normal pillow would do..
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>>84626898
The twist is that no one is buried there. Grant and his wife are entombed there. It's one of those "gotcha" riddles based on implied meanings versus semantics.
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>>84626938
>any normal pillow would do..
My man you are not masturbating like a pro. The body pillow's length allows for all sort of sensual physical contact, especially with an onahole attached. It is also great for simulating cuddling afterwards.
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>>84626821
what's the deal with this guy?
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>>84627051
oh because the tomb is above ground so it doesnt count as burying?
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>>84627172
I feel like a loose mass of blankets would be a better approximate anyhow. I have two body pillows folded up under my regular pillow to elevate my head and minimize sleep apnea, they're kind of too tiny to be worth trying to cuddle.. even by my standards.
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>>84627172
Now, I have truly seen the face of Cthulu.
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>>84627172
How do I not become like this?
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>>84627777
Don't spend ~100 buck on a body pillow, dipshit.
Didi you do that?
Good.
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You guys are the saddest masturbators
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>>84627926
>>84627777
>implying there are happy masturbators
There is no reason your dick should not be inside a woman every time you ejaculate.

Apply yourself.
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>>84628066
Fuck off Shekelstein. The modern "liberated" women are opportunistic whores designed to squeeze money out of you to throw at the corporations.
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>>84628134
I live off my wife. It's what feminism is all about.
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>>84628134
>modern "liberated" women are opportunistic whores
t.virgin

Women are the same, they were just as much whore back than.
Just because you stopped trying, it's silly to demonize your failures and project them onto the half of the human race.
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>>84628162
Keep her feet bound, if she get infected, she'll take half yer shit and start fucking niggers!!!
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>>84628134
Do you really believe this, c'mon you sound like a silly cartoon.
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>>84628213
You see, this is why I like tumblr better than /pol/
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>>84628190
>to demonize your failures and project them onto the half of the human race.
Please explain how I'm "demonizing my failures" and "projecting them".
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>>84628259
You're a socially retarded moron who probably smells bad, and you find anything to blame for the fact that women are repulsed by you besides yourself.
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>>84628259
>I want you to clearly explain this rational response to a crazy meme filled hyperbole
Ayy

yer cute, tho?
how tall are you?
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>>84628259
>>84628134
Us bottom 50% of males will never reproduce and aside for rape or prostitutes, will never have sex.

Accept this.
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>>84628289
>>84628302
>still bluepilled
When you see more of the world you'll understand
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>>84628353
>Matrix was made in 1998 by Warchowski Brothers
>they are both now Warchowski SISTERS
It's too late senpai
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>>84628353
The easiest way to tell if someone is profoundly retarded is to listen for any mention of being "redpilled".
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Why are you people argueing about pillows, masturbation and women politics? Wasn't this thread to discuss comic mcreation?
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>>84628353
>"redpilled" guy draws webcomic
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>>84628409

It's also a temporary clinic for hiveworks rejects.
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>>84628409
It's an important aspect of drawing comics in your room all day.
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>>84628409
Without Dewd and Cold Fusion around we had to fuck the thread up by ourselves.
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>>84628406
Good goy
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>>84628353
Are there repilled comics?
Serious question.
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>>84628397
the irony of them being the source of the pill meme just hit me. jesus christ

we're way off topic now guys.
>>84628433
good point.
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>>84628481
Yes, I've seen some redpilled political cartoons posted on /pol/.

As for actual web comics, I don't think there are any notable ones because of how strong the current leftist/SJW movement is.
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>>84628533
or just because we don't want to be annoying assholes that alienate huge swaths of people just to vent our views.

I did do a natural-selection-is-retarded-circular-logic joke once, but it was more the kind of thing Scott Adams would write, just for absurdity. The thing in question was a hole in a rock face, which was talked into enlarging by explaining that it was beneficial to rock holes to naturally increase in size so that larger creatures could burrow into them and continue enlarging them, and reproducing new holes by gouging them out.. or something like that. It wasn't a very good gag but it made sense at the time. Really if anything the joke was 'rocks are dumb and susceptible to peer pressure'
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>>84628533
Surely you are working on one, or should.
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>>84628533
How are SJWs preventing you from drawing a comic online?
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>>84628134
Are /pol/tards seriously neo nazis or is this a meme?
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>>84628602
I hope you are not implying evolution is "left wing," surly not, can you?
Is this Poe's Law or are you actually a creationist?
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>>84628657
No, they are just neckbeards venting.
Half the beta faggots are fawning feminist orbiters, the other half rage online.
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>>84628660
let's just say the attitude of "i can't believe someone actually disagrees on what I was sure was undeniable truth" is something no political party has a monopoly on
>>84628657
I'm pretty sure it's a meme, they're trying to be funny like Cartman or something. real conservatives love jews. shouldnt be too hard to see why either.
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>>84628630
I think he meant they wouldn't be notable or wouldn't be common as a result of the typically strong correlation between leftist thinking and the arts.
Now that you bring it up though, tumblr's forces are known to provide certain obstacles in certain instances if they get their dander up.
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>>84628701
>"i can't believe someone actually disagrees on what I was sure was undeniable truth"
I can respect traditional conservative values, but as soon as the evangelicals took over the party, it was all over.
Fucking cancer.

This is the reason American is doomed, creationists, moon hoaxers, they should be shot along with BLM, horseshoe theory indeed.
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>>84628739
>hate jews and leftist
>still consume their media & comics
>bitch about it online
Ayy
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>faggots who doodle all day and make no money have political opinions
Stick to yer funnies, kids.
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>>84628471
Fuck off.
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>>84628846
Now I'm imagining the body pillow anon going on a tirade about jews and swjs in between spooning his daki and crying over Hiveworks rejection.
Oh you goys kill me.
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My webcomic is about a magic pair of panties that turn you into a superhero when you wear them. Who will don the magic panties and save the world? Read and find out.
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>>84628915
>you goys
Nice try Rubenberg. You can't shame me back onto the capitalist treadmill.
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>>84628951
THE RATS ARE JEWS
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>>84628915
>daki
You blew your cover pillowboy.
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>>84628979
we did it /pol/
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>>84628978
You'll learn to love your chains, slave.
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>>84628982
I'm the Jewish daki anon, not the racist one tho.
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>>84628949
1. Does the panties turn you into a girl?
2. Is she gorgeous with big titties?

Please reply.
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>>84629048
Yes and yes. The downside is that if you're a man, you start your period the first time you put the panties on.
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>>84629138
Can I store the period blood for later use and to possibly sell it?
Can I also have sex as a woman as well?
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>>84628701
>>84628697
>they think it's not serious
I can't blame you. Decades of indoctrination by public education and media has turned generations of people into easily placated drones trained to resist alternate perspectives and focus on generating revenue for the globalists' banks.
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>>84629196
Is your webcomic filled with this sort of stupid shit? Please post
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>>84629196
Is that what your comic is about?
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>>84629248
>>84629227
Nah, he's just memeing.
Drawing something, anything would take actual work.
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>>84629271
Jews, senpai, I mean globalists, they are stopping him from drawing the truth tho.
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>shitposting to keep the thread alive

I guess it's a necessary evil.
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>>84629271
>>84629227
>>84629248
>>84629290
>they still think I'm "memeing"
When I'm eventually rounded up into the FEMA camps along with half of /pol/, you guys will know we're right. It'll be too late then, cultural marxism will be in full swing and the new world order will be established. Enjoy being slaves to the brave new world.
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>>84628949
by chance would it be a high school boy with a dead detective father and an S&M queen mother
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>>84629417
>When I'm eventually rounded up
>When I'm
>I'm
Should that be "you're?"
It's not much of a warning when it's about yourself, not us or everyone.

But anyhow, I'm a blue state Jew, my kike ass will be fine, thanks.
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>>84629417
That's gonna be a pretty fat camp.
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>>84629431
is there something already?
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>>84629529
>Goldstein was behind these posts
I should've known
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>>84629417
whatever being "enslaved" entails, it can't be worse than being put in some kind of concentration camp. why would anyone ever want to be "redpilled", if that's the case?
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>>84629682
>/pol/
>not always right
bruv
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>>84629710
Freedom isn't free, my friend.
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Even the rantings of the world's staunchest sjw would be less insufferable than this /pol/faggot's shitposting.
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>>84629767
desu I'd rather have a nice steak than get attacked by killer robots
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>>84629835
Shut up Jew.
Neither of their agitprop bullshit belongs here.
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>>84629855
And you know what happened to him and all quislings and traitors, don't you?

That's right, they get FRIED by a Mexican.
Watch your ass, friendo.
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>>84629900
>implying you have Neo and plot armor
whatever's gonna happen at this point is gonna happen. a bunch of nerds raving about it isn't going to stop them.
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>>84629946
/pol/ clearly needs a superhero to save the white race from the Hebrew menace and his brown legions.
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W-we can still save the thread!! Pitch your newest webcomic idea RIGHT NOW!
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>>84630966
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>>84630966
Space Opera.
Game of Thrones meets Five Star Stories.
Fatima are furries.
Lots of sex.
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>>84630966
Adolf Hitler and friends are reincarnated as babies and attend the same daycare.

Li'l Mengele is working hard to uncover the truth about cooties, but will the girls be willing test subjects?

Just what is li'l Hitler doing with that E-Z Bake Oven?

And will li'l Rommel ever learn to have any fun?

Read about that and more in Reich Tykes! Updates m-w-f.
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>>84631221
Moe Anne Frank is their daycare teacher, they love her.
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>>84629590
yup
not to the point where you couldn't make up something else though
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>>84631357
>tfw I will always live in their shadow
I hate them so much ;_:
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Does this page look alright so far? It's been kinda bothering me but I also want to just go ahead and get it inked.
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>>84631636

Looks great! If anything I'd say turn the left person's body more so they're facing the other person a bit.
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>>84631636
In the second panel, the guy's eyes don't seem to follow the angle of his face.
Try moving the smile up a smidge in the fourth panel. It seems strange that her mouth would move downwards as it turns from a frown to a smile.
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>>84631636
You could probably switch panels one and two so that you have a full upper body shot of the guy, instead of a disembodied torso and head like it is now. Just looks weird and unnecessary to do it the way you did.
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rate my comic pls
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>>84632634
There's so much going on here, I don't even know how many layers of /hyw/ irony this is removed from authenticity.

I simultaneously love it and am enraged by it.
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>>84625243
I managed something similar. Spent about a year as a shut in between high school and college.

NHK came out the same year. Shit was eerie to watch at the time.
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>>84619187
>>84618925
This is exactly the kind of webcomic that has a high chance of succeeding in the 'webcomics scene'.
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>>84632634
you failed, the last panel is drawn too well
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>>84628602
>or just because we don't want to be annoying assholes that alienate huge swaths of people just to vent our views.

The best thing about this is that the left loves to do this, and comics with obvious sjw pandering used just to vent their views while alienating huge swaths of people have more followers and earn more money than "normal" webcomics.
Also, you can use stories to propagate your agenda without being too in your face and annoying, vide hollywood and how tv and movies have been molding our culture for 50+ years.
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I guess I'll post the last dialogue fix on here as well. This is for the comic on the 20th.
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>>84626619
I get the reference.
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>>84615496
You're riding his dick so hard I want to say you're ColdFusion.
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>>84628481
Redpanels.
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>>84633833
There's no formula to it, dipshit. Comics succeed or fail for often inexplicable reasons.
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>>84637750
Are you the author?
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>Two main characters
>One's a freedom fighter
>One's an angel
>Freedom Fighter falls in love with the angel

How do I end this without having them actually get together. Both have to live.
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>>84637831
No, but I'm someone with at least half a brain.
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Introducing: Larry the Fairy
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>>84618654
While it may be garish, the composition is way better than Miss Melee's. I think that is a big factor.
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>>84638418
I don't see it.
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>>84638410
That half-assed Beware! sign does a lot for the page.
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>>84636039
Sorry new to the threads, I've seen the BW before, what's the sauce, where is this guy's site pls.
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>>84637943
Why does he need to fall in love with her? Easy way out is to have him find a normal woman to love instead.
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>>84637943
I don't know what the conflict would be but maybe
>angel is used to being loved/adored
>freedom fighter is too arrogant to want to be considered another one of those fools
>angel does like him back, but doesn't know it's love because he/she has never been in love
And then they die of sexual tension.
whoops
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>>84630966
lighthearted comic that is akin to jet set radio but with skateboarding gangs instead
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>>84637943
Have it end w/o both getting together.
The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>84638949
Man, I can never tell if people are interested or have other reason to ask me about such things.

the comic itself is

rococo.smackjeeves.com

I keep a tumblr for misc stuff on ac120.
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>>84639467
Thank you, as a weeb, I keep reading it right to left.
They really look nice, right off the storyboards type of feel.

Are you popular/make any money off this?
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>>84638410
shit i really like your comic man. keep up the good work!
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Page 7 pencils.

For the benefit of the person who asked last time, Google Translate informs me that "gros sac de points de vie" is pretty much "big bag of life points".


>>84638410
Typos -
Panel 2: "If you move too far away..."
Panel 3: "Fairies"

I think panel 4 could do with the composition being flipped. The shout of "There's one!" should be the first thing we see as it's an immediate follow on to "...ever findi--" in panel 3. Then we get the gag of seeing how goofy looking the fairy actually is. I'd guide the view of the reader from bottom left to upper right, starting with the exclamation which could even be connected to the last speech balloon in panel 3.
In panel 1 we're seeing the demon on the left and Kevin on the right from behind. But in panel 4 we're seeing them from the front and they're still in those relative positions.
Obviously, redrawing an already completed panel is going to be highly annoying, so that's just my thoughts for future consideration.
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>>84628777
the evangelicals? the church that says everyone's welcome? or do you mean the literal definition, christians who spread the word? because last I checked that's.. yknow, all of them.
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>>84639686
Thanks for pointing out the typos! I see what I can do about panel 4.
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>>84639532
No and no. I make more money walking dog and picking up their dog poop than art. haha.
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That feel when you upgrade your artist and the flaws of older pages just pop out... An odd feel.
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>>84632634
getting Rocko vibes from this. Somehow I like it
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Starting work on comic 6.
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>>84635861
>Also, you can use stories to propagate your agenda without being too in your face and annoying, vide hollywood and how tv and movies have been molding our culture for 50+ years.
well yeah, that's what I feel like I'm countering any time I have men fall in love with women, good triumph over evil, violence be the answer, and all that good times. That's all you can do though.
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>>84637943
>An angel does not make love, an angel IS love.
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>>84638410
oh my fucking god he looks like a 70s cereal mascot. I love it.
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>>84639686
ohhh of course. nevermind, my french WAS good enough to figure that out. i just wasn't thinking videogamily enough. That's fantastic.
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Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to Hiveworks tomorrow.
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>>84639717
re: Panel 4, at the very least, see what it looks like if you move the "There's One!" speech balloon into the bottom left so it immediately follows on from panel 3.
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>>84639900
Redraw panel 3. That arm is below Dewd level.
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>>84639900
This would be so much better if the third panel was brown girl simply opening the door. I mean, it's not an original joke, but the way it is now it's not even a joke. He(? is this a girl with guy hair or a guy with man boobs?) suggests breaking the door, so she... breaks the window. How is this a subversion of expectation, or in the context of the story, less of a hassle? Now they will have to climb a window risking getting cut on broken glass.
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>>84640774
we'll never see them climbing through the window since a lot of this comic focuses on the sky when doing complex actions.
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>>84640774
>guy hair
in some parallel universe maybe. no self-respecting guy would have it that short in the back and that puffy on the sides. that is straight up rough-backyard-wrestling-peppermint-patty-neighbor-girl hair
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>>84640774
>>84640436
>>84640855
Fixing it now.

>>84640872
its card game protag hair.
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>>84640872
not sure if serious
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>>84641122
you do see the difference, right? taichi's manly kidmane (that's a weird shot of it, here's a better one) has masculine shapes. It has a prominent frontal swoop of hair, while the back is more of a ducktail with some dangly down bits, and the sides don't strongly puff out.
I realize since the mid 90s men have been in the middle of a style doldrum, but that's no reason to forget the fundamentals
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>>84641216
>>84641122
>posting shitty cartoons as if this justified a shittier drawing
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>>84641216
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>>84641303
regardless of your tastes, the lesbian's hair shouldn't rank very high on the list of this comic's art problems
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>>84641327
is he still a tranny?
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>>84640906
hows this instead?
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>>84642105
I dunno I think throwing bricks is funny. also, did she actually push open the door? meaning it's boarded up, but not boarded shut? That's kind of...
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>>84642105
You should give the one with the messy hair some eyelashes or something. Looks like a boy. Was that your intention?
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>>84642152
It's ment for her to be pushing it open. I guess showing the door closed first would have been better.

>>84642191
tomboyish. so, its kind of intentional.
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Having an interesting (to me at least) little situation. As I was coloring, I turned off the layer with all the colors and thought it may be a better idea to have the dream panels in black and white with maybe some screen tones since the dream is a shojo parody type thing.

Figure I'd get you guy's opinion on this before I decide one way or the other. Also, please ignore it being wildly unfinished. The big bottom section will be in full color.
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That's why I neeeeeeeeeed allll of the energy that you bring to me , my last comic would tear me apart but never want to spend a TING with me but when it comes to youuuuuu, I think I like a you I think I'll cry for you , do things when you want me to like coonnntroolllaaaaaaa
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>>84640855
Oh snap.
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>>84642343
Yes to the screentone Shojo parody. It would also differentiate the (b&w) dream from the (full colour) waking world.
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>>84642599
Awesome. Makes things better for me anyway since I'm running behind.
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How do you come up with a name for a cultist deity?
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>>84642343
I'm not sure. I like the idea of a b&w dream with shojo tones, but those pancakes look much better in color. Also I'm gay for Silas, color or not.
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>>84642723
I'll be adding some gray/screentone shading just so things wont look so flat.

Everyone is gay for Silas
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>>84642664
what kinda cult? cthulhu knockoff? scientology kinda thing? comet worshippers?
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>>84642664
I would just pound random letters together with apostrophes and/or hyphens mixed in.
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>>84642664
Luguber.
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>>84642779

Closest thing would be a cthulhu knockoff. Their core beliefs are based on the idea that the deity once held power over the world, and their life sacrificing rituals provide spiritual power help their deity return to power and induce a rapture.
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>>84642664
Would a name generator help? It could, at the very least, give you some ideas.
https://donjon.bin.sh/
http://www.rinkworks.com/namegen/
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>>84642768
>yes
sweatingman.png
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>>84642664
Black Jesus
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>>84642343
>>84642768
>more NEET/Weeb self insert comcis
Guess better than vidya slice of life sitcoms
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>>84642105
Okay first of all, I can't tell that a door is being opened in the third panel. It looks like she's leaning on it.

Second, why is there NOTHING in panels 4-6 and 2? If any one of those mugshots served as a punchline I would understand, but they don't. The panels are pretty much pointless. You could have the characters interact or establish space and tone as they enter...but you just don't.
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>>84642821
i guess i just meant what kind of FLAVOR does it have. is this ancient one a humanlike/drmanhattanlike god (give him a very solid ancient sounding name like Dama or something), a bloodthirsty nearly-prehistoric thing like you'd see in Conan or ancient Sumeria? (something with some sinister but familiar word roots in it, like Saros or something), or an unknowable alien monstrosity straight out of lovecraft? (go with the unpronouncable syllables broken up by punctuation)
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>>84642970
>all them AMV tier fanshit
WEW, it's grown.

Has anyone done this?
Seriously, not as some mashup but taken the premise seriously and wrote a proper story?
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>>84643009

Well, In the imagery he's somewhat horse based, so I came up with "Ekuisaar".

No idea if that's any good or not.
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>>84643104
The PV is legit, made for the meme, rest are just fanedits of various unrelated anime.
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>>84642970
FINDS A WAY
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>>84643126
>set in Japan with nips written by a weeb
no thanks.
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>>84631768
Thank you! I tried turning the guy's body towards the camera but ended up just turning his head away. I was trying to show that he was turning around to talk and it didn't look right when his body was facing the camera more. Does this look better?

>>84631992
Thanks, fixed it.

>>84632579
I don't want to put them into one panel because that would mess up the pacing, but now that I 'm drawing a blank.think about it, those two panels do look kinda weird together. I'm trying to figure out an alternate panel but I'm drawing a blank. I'll probably just switch it out with a scenery shot. Thanks for telling me.
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>>84643184
I know it's Makoto Shinkai's new flick with KeitAi shopped on it, c'mon.
His shit is /co/ tier basic.
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>>84643150

Required listening in the background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pA8VzdpDnU
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask but is Ava's Demon ever going to get an update?
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>>84643253

Holy shit this this syncs perfectly perfectly.
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>>84643270
>not Scott Pilgrim
apply yerself
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>>84643242
I feel foolish and sad.
>>84643270
Make them furry.
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>>84643253

If you play it after the intro it's perfect.
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>>84643242
>crappy
How dare you!
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>>84643117
ah okay so we're animal-flavored. a bit egyptian, a bit sumerian.. something ancient but nature-based.. That's good thinking, the proto-indo-european root for equus is ekwo, which apparently led to a bunch of other horse words that i've never heard before, like ech, eoh, aihwa, açva, aspa, and ehu.. you could go with Esworecs or Aswareca or something.. Eohra has a nice kind of 'older than old' feel to it.
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The /coc/ thread dide so I was thinking I'd just post these pages here. Doing a GG short for fun. Any feedback?
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>>84643417
Wut?
I'm sorry, can you repeat that w/o copypasta mash up?
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>>84643500
tits too big
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>>84643500
I've seen your work before.
Her breasts seem to dramatically change in size between panels, both on this page and earlier ones.
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>>84643500
>all that effort wasted on what will be dismissed as a /d/ tier fetish comic
>not actual porn so the real fetish guys won't care
It looks great.
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>>84643540
>dont wantcha cuz ya tits too big
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>>84643567
they also floppity flop, it her charm point, normie.
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>>84643417
So it's Keitai without the phone?
>A boy falls and wakes up as a girl.
kinky.
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>>84643639
Keitai didn't invent parallel universe tropes, jus saying.
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>>84643567
I did do one before, not sure what you're referring to by the others? but yeah I'll keep the consistency in mind.

>>84643594
Such is my lot in life, I want to do "serious" comics, then I don't. Thanks, though!
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>>84643500
>loli oppai
>tiny girl w/ mega tits
Worst fetish, almost bad as imp.
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>>84643219
You can have panels 1 and 2 depicting a single figure, but keep the panel break between them.
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>>84643150
>>84643253

Now you don't need two links

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1y6AqTnESwj
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>>84643824
Meme Magic will get Trump elected, heed the warning.
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>>84643728
I assumed there was more than just one.
They still get way bigger in panel two, and this clearly isn't a BE thing.
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>>84642970
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>>84643853
que??
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>>84643628
No, getting bigger in each panel is not one of her character traits.
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>>84643842

>Music gets sinister when he mentions equipping each other with weapons, and then peters out when he's just talking about love.

Fuck this is too perfect.
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.>>84644069
she's not even a ginger
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>>84644119

>I'd complain about the crappy audio, but it actually sounds more genuine, like a lost old-timey record.


Yeah, I did that on purpose.
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>>84643796
Yeah, I get that, but even with the panel break the pacing feels off to me. I dunno, it might just be me though. What do you think of my new panel, does it look alright or should I just go with the half body shot over two panels?
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>>84632634
This should have a trigger warning
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My pitch to Hiveworks got rejected, not too surprised but I had fun making stuff. I won't be publishing the comic now but if I decide to, does anyone know how I might find an audience that likes surreal edginess and cute grills? Here's a page, you can find other samples with a reverse image search.
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Guys, after a year of dithering, I'm finally inspired by Keit-ai.
Let's make the /co/ webcomic version.

I need a suitable style
>>84618654 >>84618925
This seems OK, maybe touch of furry, mixed with Pandemonium Wizard Village.

Any suggestions for a name?
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>>84644434
>likes surreal edginess and cute grills
4chan and Reddit, post it there
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>>84644477
Yeahhhh reddit is pretty attached to relatable humor and I think my delivery is too weird for the smaller weeb subs. 4chan I thought MIGHT like it but I don't know know where to begin with em
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>>84644176
Yes, that works. Especially if P1 depicts the other things they would rather be doing; add some tools like a trowel, fork, and watering can.
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>>84643440
>Eohra

Yeah, I like that.
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>>84644434
Ha that's a neat little alien enemy ,This looks cool dude sorry about not getting in but you could story time it if you have a full chapter
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>>84644542
here
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>Reading this thread
>People bitching about "Hiveworks"
>Google it
>MFW those art styles

Holy fuck that is absolute cancer. Did they purposely go out of their way to gather every obnoxious art style into one place? Other than Whomp, Atomic Robo and Empowered it's all garish Tumblrshit. Giant eyes and faces with tiny pupils that don't follow perspective, FUCKING HEART-SHAPED MOUTHS, 99% lesbian casts, fat nigresses, """"""""cute"""""""" shit...

Hitler 2 fucking when?
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>>84644809
It's where the market is headed.
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>>84644689
Thanks! I'd have to make one, the plan was for it to be a series of one-offs so every update would have a punchline more or less. But I think a more connected intro might be good.
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>>84644542
You'd be surprised what Reddit likes. When I posted Miss Melee issue 2 to r/comics it made it to #2 on the "hot" list and stayed there for a very long time. There was actually discussion in the thread about why postings of comics that aren't simple gag strips don't get very many upvotes on Reddit...when that link got over 1000.

You really have nothing to lose.
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>>84644809
It's all professional quality and leagues better than anything posted here.
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>>84644776
Yeah but do 4chan readers tend to follow the comic to its source or do they read the updates when they hit a thread? reddit relies on subreddits more than the orginals sites
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>>84644434
oh, i like this! it gives me the same vibes as that Mimi comic that gets posted here.
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>>84644897
That's true, might as well spread my gross sweaty tendrils all over the internet. You do Miss Melee? That shit looks DANK I'm not surprised it made it so high
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>>84644809
>>84644809
>fat nigresses

Gee whiz, I wonder why they never accepted your pitch.
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pages 2 and 3 are done, ill be posting them for feedback
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>>84645020
b-but nigger is a rude word, he's just being polite
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>>84645197
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>>84644434
That's definitely up my alley. you're not going to link us properly?
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>>84645217
dangit, zomble relatives. always sad.
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>>84645278
Just for you: http://imgur.com/a/QuCCB
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link to discord?
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>>84645020
>He likes fat black women with ugly Tumblrhair in his webcomics

Funniest thing is that it's not even unique anymore. Everyone and their mom has a fatnigger in their comic.
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What is she saying /co/ ?
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>>84644809
It's a business decision. They have a specific idea for the brand/image/identity they want as a publishing site and, with the exception of comics that were already very popular before joining Hiveworks, any new comics they're going to be on the lookout for should fit that style.

This is just like the Oni Press submissions from last year. People on /co/ were complaining about their strict guidelines and it's like, they want their company to be perceived as a company that does this specific thing and that generally has comics with a specific feel, because they believe they can make a lot of money off of it.

It's why I'm not taking my own Hiveworks rejection personally. My comic doesn't fit that image Hiveworks is searching for right now. I respect them for having a feel in mind and relentlessly pursuing it. That's what every comic-related entity, be it a publisher or a creator, should strive for.

>>84644997
Thanks!
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>>84645602
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>>84645774
ohgod
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>>84645752
Your comic was rejected because it was shit, not because of current popular trends.
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>>84645217
Looks like she has a big headache
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>>84645752
>My comic doesn't fit that image Hiveworks is searching for right now
which comic, brah?
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>>84645602
>my facial proportions hurt.
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WIP page, kinda having some trouble laying stuff out, like in the 4th panel.
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>>84645774
good one
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>>84646106
Miss Melee.
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>>84646345
Is that the one with the real eyesore artwork?
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>>84645496
This is good anon, I'd bookmark it if it were a webcomic.
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>>84646375
Not the anon you're replying to but if by 'eyesore' you mean 'looks great', then yeah.
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>>84646345
I'd say, from their pov, yer comic lacks sophistication/irony, it's pretty much a straight capeshit.
The girl thing is a plus, but she does what any guy would do, beat up bad guys, there no subtext.

The art style being decade old animu is also not so fashionable.
I'd guess from their pov, your comic needs more pastel colors, Whedonesque quips, and a overarching social/cultural theme beyond beating up bad guys.
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>>84646375
Miss Melee has fantastic art, with just a few real sore-thumb flaws every so often, usually involving facial feature arrangement
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>>84646375
It's not an eyesore, don't be silly.
It's not objectively terrible like the Dewd.
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>>84646375
Wouldn't say that.
It's hardly "I read it just for the art" tier, but Guadalupe's art is competent enough that I've never noticed errors while just reading normally.
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Why is coming up with a long term goal for your characters so hard? The story is about building an army and a power base, but then I realized I have no idea why they'd do that besides raw ambition. And that's fucking weak. I don't want my protagonists to be like Disney villains who seek power for the sake of it, power is a means by which to accomplish something. But I got no clue about what that something should be.
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>>84646675
>lacks sophistication/irony
It hasn't really started yet, I think that's the problem. I wouldn't call it straight capeshit by a mile. It's more like a family sitcom set against the backdrop of capeshit.. but so far so little has happened, who can say? From that phonecall I gather that there's going to be some Incredibles-esque 'coming out of retirement oh no something bad happens' conflict-based plot
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>>84646703
OK then, no it's not the one I was thinking of. Looks good.
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>>84646703
>never noticed errors while just reading normally.
I mean, I like it, but you don't see anything wrong with Cutesy Buttons' eyes?
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>>84642105
Anon, how old are you?
If you are doing this as a hobby it's fine, but if you want to earn money doing comics one day, scrap this and go learn how to draw.
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>>84646500
Thank you, that means a lot!!
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>>84646816
okay well now this art is starting to look familiar..
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>>84646775
If I go through it looking for stuff that could be fixed, yeah, there's stuff on every page, but just casually glancing at it like I would if I was reading through it? Not really.

>>84646712
Well, make all their competitors obvious assholes. Better that power be assembled in the hands of the good guys, right?
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>>84646739
No, that's not what i mean.
The modern hipster reader needs a layer of genre deprecating irony.
The have to know that you know that capeshit is stupid silly shit for manchildren.
You must present the material as if you, but you know the genre and its tropes are beneath you.

You condescend to a clearly base plebeian level, but with a knowing wink and a sneer, because you enjoy them on a meta-contextual level.

You're just trying to tell a good story to readers who want a good fun story, I mean, C'MON grandad, ikr??
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>>84646973
Has 4chan reached new levels of cynicism?
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>>84647033
I'm just saying that's why I'd reject his comic if I was a member of HW based on their core members and their comics.
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>>84646973
I thought it kinda DID. I mean the daughter is a fan of it. Having superheroes be a thing people are a fan of in their 'real life' life counts as whedonesque self-awareness and irony, doesn't it?
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>>84647099
You don't despise or have enough contempt for your material, it shows.
You unironically love your characters, das gay af, senpai.

>>84647033
>understanding how a teenage trend whore thinks
>cynicism
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>>84647099
Hey at least they prolixly looked through yer pages.
99% of these things, you can reject them with one look.
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shits gonna get feels.
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>>84647099
webcomic folk, I've noticed, especially women are still prejudiced on supers because of their dominance in the print genre and their lack of interest.
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I decided to change the dialogue on this page. Also amonzone made this out of one of the panels.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/111912780377985024/205453525612756992/sjwilf.png

God bless that man
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>>84647186
>>84647095
>>84646973

HW has plenty of straightfaced, sincere comics, though most of those are cutesy adventure comedies instead of genre fiction.

To be completely honest, the ACTUAL issue is that Hiveworks already has Spinnerette on their network. Whether or not Miss Melee is of higher quality than Spinnerette is going to be a matter of subjectivity - I prefer Miss Melee, personally - but Miss Melee's big challenge is going to be the fact that Cape Webcomics aren't a very big niche Spinnerette is a pre-existing female led superhero comedy that already has a relatively large reader base over its years of running. Miss Melee just hasn't been running long enough to distinguish itself yet were it to be on Hiveworks.
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>>84647293
>>84647394

Yeah, I feel like HW just feels like Spinnerette fills their superhero "quota," and Spinnerette's been around so long that they probably don't see the point of trying to cultivate a new readerbase when they already have a comic with Spinerette's near decade of gaining readership under their wing.
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>>84647394
That is an extremely good point. Hiveworks also has Empowered, which kind of counts although I wouldn't really call it "competition" to Miss Melee - the two comics have pretty different objectives in mind.

I kind of thought about it like that, but never spent any serious time dwelling on it, but yeah, the "we already have a superhero comic" mindset could very well have been a significant contributing factor there. I've seen that type of mindset lead to other rejections before, not just in comics.
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>>84646804
>go learn how to draw

What do you think he's doing?
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>>84647625
thinking he can draw
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>>84647653
You're so clever anon.
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>>84647625
He should hide his shame until he has produced unembarrassing works, lest he become another Dewd.
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>>84647293
hey we're not the ones who refuse to spend money on the merchandise that funds it.. cape keeps reaching out to women, begging for their support, and they're just like.. eew no i'm going to buy some more purses and lisa frank folders and shit.
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>>84647301
>dilbert word balloon style
somehow really fits
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>>84647625
He is putting his effort in drawing a comic instead of studying.
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>>84647394
Spinnerette's still around? hasn't alienated all the remaining quirky-capeshit fans yet with its neverending lesbian drama and tittywolves?
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>>84647653
>>84647686
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>>84647653
How do you think drawing works, anon? You think you read Loomis and then when you finish the last page you're a good artist?

No. You draw bad drawings, and then you keep doing that for four or five years and eventually you get good.

If you knew anything about art you'd know that much. In a few years this guy will be good. You'll still be nothing.
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>>84647800
Actually this year Spinnerette's been doing a LOT of paid advertising around the web, trying to regain fans it lost from that godawful edgy shitty storyline that one time.
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>>84647835
he'll be good if he listens to critiques and properly applies them to his works
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>>84647847
ah well shit, I owe them a second chance. I used to fucking love Krakow. back in the day when a comic could actually get away with double-nippled demon girls and slightly poorly drawn anime style shenanigans with canadians or whatever
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>>84647899
>I owe them a second chance
You don't owe them shit. Don't give hacks a second chance. They'll only let you down.
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>>84647835
This anon gets it. Oh, just learn to draw? Why don't I stap on my drawing helmet, squeeze down into a drawing cannon, and fire off into drawing land, where artistic skill grows on trees?
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>>84647934
yeah I regretted that phrasing the minute I said it. I guess what I meant is that the early bits, the good bits, earned a second chance, and a good-faith effort in turning around a regrettable mistake is usually worth granting forgiveness. Look at Domino's.
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>>84647896
He'll be good if he keeps practicing. He's already listened to critiques and applied them.

What he'll also need to do is learn to ignore the nit-pickers and social leeches and the haters.
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>tfw you want to start a new comic but you keep making excuses to put it off, all while neglecting your old comic
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>>84648042
Or he could spend some months studying before posting every single doodle and asking for comments like a puppy and creating these Parliamentary debates on the nature of art and critical theory based on hurt feelings we get around here ;^)
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>>84648210
>quit my comic years ago
>gave up art for a while
>now draw furshit to make up rent
>still dream of my awesome comic in my sleep
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>>84648455
>the debates and hurt feelings are his fault, not mine
seriously until that point I thought this post was sarcastic. If you really think people should spend months before posting their work, you need to start cramming sea urchins up your ass by the bucketful, right now, and get the shit out of our threads
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>>84648727
Ppl should spend years, actually.
But the mere thought of working w/o instant validation from strangers every 2 seconds probably send you millennials in to a panic.
I understand.
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>>84648896
People should show everything they draw. That way they can get people to look at it and give help.

They shouldn't run away and hide just because you're too big of a pussy to do it. In fact, something tells me you're too big of a pussy to even try to learn.
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>>84648727
Had you spent all that energy into your work instead of here, you might actually be good by now ;^)
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>tfw West Tree Academy of Heroes got accepted to Hiveworks and your comic didn't
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>>84648984
shhh.... I understand.
I'm not angry, it's alright...
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Creepy claw hands
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>>84648984
of course it's a pussy, he either doesn't even have a comic or won't share it
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>>84648984
>>People should show everything they draw
Are you a child?
You seriously need to show every single doodle to everyone?
Shut the fuck up and draw 10, 20, 40 pages.
Just do it.
You'll learn far more in doing then even in these useless circle jerks, you fucking fetus beneath the dignity any person you peon.
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>>84649198
I love those!
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>>84649248
>butthurt child suddenly wants forum IDs on 4chan
cringe af, senpai
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>Reading all this Hiveworks bitching.
No wonder all y'all got turned down. If you can't handle rejection, maybe you'd be better off keeping your art to a hobby.
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>>84649261
You know how to learn how to make a webcomic? You wouldn't because you're not an artist.

You learn by drawing a webcomic. You post it here for feedback. What exact harm do you believe is being caused by posting webcomics in progress, good or bad? The only people who get upset by bad amateur artists are non-artists who don't know what they're talking about.

Do you think any real artist is going to get upset by this guy showing their work? Of course not, because they can remember when they were beginners too.
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>>84647835
Anon, holy fuck, you can spend a hundred years drawing bad cartoons casually, it won't get you anywhere. If you are at that guy's level, you need to read the fundamentals of drawing and practice that shit over and over again. That is the sort of good repetition that will make you improve.

Drawing bad cartoons you feel confortable drawing for years will get you nowhere, you won't improve, and even if someday you do manage to improve you will look back at all that wasted time on a work you aren't proud of, and will realize your time would have been better spent studying.

By your logic, if that anon will be good just by drawing that comic for a few years, everybody else in this thread will be demigods, except for Bones because he is autistic. Again, if he is just drawing for fun it's fine, who cares, but if he actually wants to earn money doing comics one day, your white knighting and bad advice will only hurt him.
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>>84649248
Pretty sure it's Bones again.

1. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
2. He's retarded as fuck.
3. He's a drama whore.
4. He's a non-artist.
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>>84649424
;_:
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>>84649412
>Anon, holy fuck, you can spend a hundred years drawing bad cartoons casually, it won't get you anywhere

This is not true. It's a myth, held up by literal retards from deviantArt. You practice, you will get good. They don't need your help. They don't need your approval, it's just something that happens.
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Thanks for reminding me why I stopped coming to these threads, faggots.
Jesus fucking Christ. this thread.
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>>84649412
>read the fundamentals

Oh god, it's another know-nothing Loomis fag who thinks you can read your way to being good.
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>>84649590
Everyone who matters migrated to the discord chat months ago.

We literally only keep these threads around to laugh at them
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>>84649375
haha, is that Lamie and Grifforzer's babby? I didn't know it was so human
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>>84649441
his shitposting is usually more jovial than that, though. do shitposters really switch tracks like that?
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>>84649669

The very next thing in that sentence is
>and practice that shit over and over again. That is the sort of good repetition that will make you improve.

Am I the retarded one here? Am I arguing with obvious bait?

>>84649674
Please take me out of here with a discord invite
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>>84650035
Bones tries to tear down anybody he can to make himself feel superior. It's not really changing tracks. He's the omega wolf in the thread, he thinks he can move up the ladder by attacking the guy on the next rung up.
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>>84642768
>and possibly something else
L-Lewd!
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>>84650180
I really don't think that's the case, unless you're going by things he's done anonymously, which you really just can't do. he's a jokester, just trying to poke people for reactions. none of his 'i'm so great' tacks were meant to be taken seriously. they were meant to make him look more pitiful so you'd tolerate him
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>>84649590
wtf i hate these threads now >:((((
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>>84650247
>You will never have an anime marathon with a cute girl
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>>84650247
But its an animu marathon! Mimi would probably watch Love Live or something.
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>>84650180
>omega wolf
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>>84650307
That's a Gore Videl quote, btw.
Chang knows what's up tho.
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>>84642105

please listen to this guy>>84649412 learning the fundamentals will help you a lot

my lineart is not goog and my my coloring used to be absulute shit but then i decided to watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh12RA3ha0U

and i have to say that what i learned in that video helped me way more than just coloring all my drawings a bunch of times

honesly your drawings could be way better but what i really don't like about them is that i can see little white spaces all over the place so please take a look at this video too so you can really start improving
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>>84650307
There is literally nothing wrong with this quote.
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>>84649501
I'm not otherwise involved in this discussion, but no, that's really not just a myth.
There are multiple examples right here in these threads. I don't have anything against people who just draw for fun like ColdFusion or Dewd, but unless people actively try to improve and get outside of their comfort zone, they will stagnate.

I don't know this >>84647253 guy's situation. Maybe he's not in a position where he can both do serious studying and draw the comic that motivates him. Maybe just drawing regularly is far enough outside of his comfort zone right now that he'd be overwhelmed if he tried to study simultaneously. Maybe he is already studying the basics and he's just not showing us because they're not comics-related. Maybe he tries to implement some new technique in every panel of his comic.
But just drawing comics pages won't make him better at anything except drawing that kind of page.
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I want to make you cry. cry for me.
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Its my 1st Tims posting in a thread like this
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>>84652837
hehehehe. if this was more legible i could see really enjoying it
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>>84653090
Thanks man,

You have any advice like should I make the text bigger or format the image better
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>>84652457
I don't think you have the drawing or writing chops to elicit that kind of emotion, especially not with characters that haven't even really been established. It's also just tonally kind of inept, considering up to this point it's seemed like the stakes of surviving a zombie apocalypse are intentionally absent, but now 5 pages in you're expecting us to feel like what's happening is a tragedy.
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>>84653229
This.

It's very Dewd-like. Doing something that you've seen done effectively in other media but not understanding why it's effective.
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>>84652457
I appreciate what you're trying to do, because that sort of stories are exactly my jam, but I have to agree with >>84653229 here.

You could've also used a lot of other resources available to you in the comics medium to make that scene better. varying your shots and colors to emphasize the emotions you want to convey and adding silence and pause in the dialogue with extra panels could've helped a lot more, even if the drawing quality remained the same.

There's a lot more to making comics than just words and drawings, even if that's what it all seems to be on the surface.
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>>84653189
it's just the indistinctness of the lines and shapes. for example in the first panel there appears to be a smiley face in her hand, the size of her hand. then she puts on what... appears to be a full face-sized mask, but with the other one's face drawn on it? ut it's hard to even tell which facial features are which. are those U-shapes the bottoms of her eyes? they dip below mouth level.. are the arch-shapes above the.. i mean are those even eyes? or are THOSE the eyes? a nose as a vertical line doesn't help. I see no fewer than six things that make me think they're the eyes, and two potential mouths.
Then the other one seems to have some of the same facial features but now the pupils are further down, so...
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Did some work inking on the new pages today, and also got some good progress in on the new logo as well as this chapter's cover art.

I'm hoping this cover will be a nice attention getter by the time it's done. Got lots more hair to draw and tweak.
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>>84653229
>>84653826
>>84653553
guys. I draw it to pass time. calm down.
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>>84654194
Not an excuse.
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>>84618654
>>84618891
Just saying, De Pravitate Mundi was rejected as well.
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Yeah, I see where your getting at

Work on proportions, clean it up, practice line control

it means a lot to offer constructive criticism, Thanks
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>>84654194
Please stop saying this every time. Learn to deal with the comments or stop posting. You think Dewd got his reputation simply for his art?
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>>84654262
no, he got it from shitposting.
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Question,

can anyone think of an example where the real BBEG turns out to be the first companion that the MC meets and is with for the entire story?
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Still working on this. I'm probably going to add something to the background of the last panel, it's looking kinda bare to me. Still need to add shading, but hopefully I'll have the page finished tonight.
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>>84654316
The closest example I can think of right now is Madoka Magica, with Kyubey. That's actually a pretty interesting gimmick for a story, if done right.
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>>84654316
Not that I can think of off hand.


Do go on.
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>>84654409
>>84654382
Tell me what you think.

The main bad guys are these machine abominations being led by a normal person who sees some twisted perfection in them. As the story progresses you find out that he is not a normal human but is a weird hybrid between the two. The big twist is He was actually 100% machine with no free will and the main companion is the hybrid and he didn't even know it.
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>>84654316
The Boys
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>>84653836
Meant to send this to you
mang


>>84654254
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>>84654552
Hm. I kinda like it. So the dude only supported the machine monsters because he was one himself, and was programmed to lead the machines? That sounds pretty cool, do please work on this idea.
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>>84654552
Does the companion actually become evil?
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>>84654720
Yes. The moment he becomes aware he becomes bad
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>>84654720
>>84654670
If you'd like. I can post a brief synopsis.
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Wasn't sure where to post this cause idk if there is an animation general BUT it's cartoon related so w/e

Pretty much looking for VA's atm
This is just a comp of random stuff, the 2nd one is something I am working on atm but need VA's
Pretty much just trying to get into a group of creators atm, art/animation alone in the dark with no interaction is maddening lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TQLiZdE52c
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>>84654873
sure, knock yourself out.
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>>84654262
>every time
isn't this, like, the third time Undy has ever posted? and the first time any criticism has been levied at the comic.
That said, not the response I would have given. Better to just say "thanks but I'm just doing this as a hobby, I don't feel like working hard on it"
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>>84654316
i'm watching something right now where I think that turns out to be the case, but I haven't gotten to the end yet..
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>>84655018
>>84654873
M'kay


>Fantasy setting where most of the world is divided into two distinct factions. The religious group made up of several countries and nations known simply as "The Devote" who worship the wide pantheon of Gods and their acolytes as perfection. Their rival, known as "The Children of Autumn" is a single, massive, secular nation of humans who believe that the only way to survive is the mechanically enhance themselves. I.E. Replacing faulty organs and limbs with machines. As a result they are seen as heretics to the Devote. While the Devote want to destroy the COA they themselves are peaceful and just want to be left alone. However, a radical group inside the COA is threatening this peace. Known only as "The Godless" they have taken the idea of machine enhancements to an extreme and have almost completely removed their humanity in place of cold steel and currently under the leadership of an augmented human named Silas Korver who believes that the Godless are perfection and the inevitable future of humanity
>The story begins when one of the God's acolytes, an angel named Camilla, is attacked at a temple by the Godless and stripped of her wings and her divinity. She is found by two freedom fighters named Isaac and Michael who must help her uncover the treacherous plans of the Godless

thoughts?
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>>84655042
This topic is kind of fascinating. I used to wonder why people got so mad at guys who don't practice.
I've spent the last year busting my ass, drawing to the point where I have gotten more than one well meaning lecture from a family member or friend about needing tonstep away from the table- just last weekend as a matter of fact.

I don't get mad at the guys who don't practice- I still have way too far to go, and maybe always will, to bitch at anyone.

However, the anger itself is a fine thing, imo and no one should attempt to mitigate it- if only because occasionally the message gets through.
It got through to me, anyway.

So anyway, speaking of a long way to go, I just realized this logo placement looks like she us farting.
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>>84655232
Not bad. Please post updates when you have some artwork
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>>84654891
>VA
http://voice123.com/seanremel commercial demo
https://audioboom.com/users/155390/boos just dumb shit dicking around in various character voices
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>>84654291
I thought we were friends ;_;
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>>84655590
pretty sure that post was defending you, saying any negative behavior you may have is the result of people flinging shit at you
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>>84655377
Damn dude
I'd for sure want you involved in the cartoon I'm working on

I've got a twitter in the description if you wanna hmu on that
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>>84655915
I don't has a twitter... email?
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>>84656028
[email protected]
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>>84655377
What the fuck are you doing making shitty comics with a voice like this?
I wanna hear more of this. You got a youtube channel?
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>>84654291
>>84655590
now im going to ship Undewd/Uneducated
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Finished this page!
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What's a rude term for a person that never does anything but leeches off of and tries to hold back people who try to accomplish things. I want to say "Ankle biter" but that's apparently a rude term for small children.
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next page wip, kinda proud of how thug 1# and thug 2# came out, as they were both improvised.
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>>84657289
'Woman' is the term you're looking for.
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>>84657289
parasyte?

no maybe that's too rude too

leech?
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>>84657349
If I wanted retarded /pol/ shit anon, I'd go to /pol/.
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>>84657446
4chan is not a safe space, princess
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>>84657330
will you ever draw porn, pls?
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>>84654291
Wew way to throw him under the bus bro
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>>84657490
No, anon. But it's a segregated place. Low IQs belong to /pol/, bronies belong to /mlp/, literal fags belong to /y/, and you belong to any of the above.
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>>84657289
shit, there's a very specific term for this, I just can't think of it. "sandbag" comes to mind. a real LOAD. The kind of thing you could see levied at a george costanza, or at a freeloading teenager, or at Mokocchi.. but with that specific thing where they sabotage their betters so they'll stay behind with them and not abandon them. fuck what IS this term, I know I've heard it.
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>>84657543
this
would fap
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>>84657289
leech seems fitting enough
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>>84657668
Crab mentality.
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>>84657668
Yeah thanks at least for confirming the same feeling that I've got. It's right on the tip of my tongue but can't grasp it.
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>>84657723
that's half of it. but I wanna say there's a very specific word, for some reason 'sycophant' keeps coming to mind even though that isn't remotely it, but it's that same KIND of word, for someone who simultaneously crabs people but also leeches them. Like they use just enough manipulation to get others into the perfect position to leech, then no more effort after that.
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>>84657289
Louse, layabout, worthless nothing, "someone who has to watch others fail so they can feel better about never winning", shitzipper, turdmuncher, jackass, jagweasel, and shitheel.
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>>84657630
Don't be silly, you bint.
You can be quite smart and be a misogynist.
/pol/ is full of intelligent hateful people.
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>>84657923
I'm pretty sure most of them are just rebellious in the same way as the listless anti-establishment 90s pinks. the establishment is aligned oppositely now, politically, but it's every bit as unfair and it's just as childishly satisfying to rebel against it
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>>84657851
Psychic Vampire is a term I have seen used for this.
According to my headcannon feel poster and the everybody sucks poster (he is in every thread) are the same guy.
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>>84657998
From my understanding, most of the core group are from actual Neo Nazi groups, JIDF shills who direct antisemitism away to anti-Islam/terrorist topics, and SWJ trolls who post interracial porn.
And of course the Trump guys who shop MAGA hats on animu girls;^)
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Welp, I won't be able to scan this for a while, so I rather show it now, as shoddy as it is. I'll try to have a proper, clean scan soon, once I found in which box I packed the scanner before moving out...
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i finished the coloring of this page

anyone here knows a good font that looks like writing from an old fantasy book but not overly fancy so it is easy to read?
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>>84658381
Blambot is your goto
http://www.blambot.com/fonts_dialogue_uncon.shtml
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Finally. A place where I can advertise stickwiggers for those whove never seen it

http://stickwiggers.thecomicseries.com/archive/
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>>84658892
incredible, it's someone who puts even less effort into a webcomic than i do
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>>84658892
>mspaint stickfig """""""""comic""""""""""
Remember guys, make comics for yourself first, because no one's gonna care.
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>>84658312
>scanners
man those take me back
I just still can't believe the Higgs Bison gets to make a guest appearance. You even got the intentionally inappropriately placed belly gun.. I couldn't be more proud of this turn of events.
also yay panchira even though a unitard really doesn't count as panchira yay anyway. (don't forget her tail. it's above the skirt so you shouldn't have to erase anything)
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>>84658774
>augh, my eye! I'm not supposed to get tails in it!
actually surprised aliens can spend this much time in close proximity without suddenly finding out one's deathly allergic to another
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>>84654194
>posts in HOW'S YOUR WEBCOMIC?
>people give their response
>guys these aren't the responses I want
Dewd 2.0
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>>84657289
Hanger-on.
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>someone posts in HYW
>never try to appeal to me or my son's emotions again

>>84659837
>people give their response
>guys these aren't the responses I want
>unironically 'Dewd 2.0'

Bones 3.5
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>>84660108
it's time to take your medication
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>>84660170
It's time to stop posting.
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>>84659308
I forgot about the tail, thanks for the heads up!
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Somebody better make a new thread if you don't want down time for /hyw/.
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>>84657543
>>84657706
It's there getting
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>>84661426
These threads were a mistake. Let this be the final one.
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>>84661978
If you won't make it I will. Eventually.
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>>84662041
Don't bother. The sooner we end it, the better our lives will be. It's like ripping off a bandaid.
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>>84662095
>The sooner we end it, the better our lives will be. It's like ripping off a bandaid
Do you need help, anon?

>Don't bother
Why would I not bother when I'm constantly in these threads anyway?
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