JSA Storytime: JLI

DAT KID FLASH COSTUME DOE

>>84452108
>I hope u liek more Millennium

wake me up when we get to glorious overlord Manga Khan

>ANTI
>HULK
>ARROW

Also slott threw another fit

>>84452122
It's been said before but I'll say it again.

I really don't think those colors work on someone who isn't a ginger

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>>84452136
this is a pretty OP team

>>84452148
more liek sloth lmao
also ur a fag op

Hey storytimer!

Slott and Brevoort, but really Slott holy shit wow, lost their fucking bananas recently. Over the weakest spoilers possible.

"Occupy Avengers" is still a terrible, out of touch name (but I'll absolutely take it over "Avengers Lives Matter" which would be unbelievably tasteless), but Walker's the best pick for it right now, and it shows they're not gonna Priest him. Yet.

>>84452160
this is like my dream JL team

>Hal and some alien lanterns
>Hawkman and Hawkwoman
>J'onn

HAHA TIME FOR G'NORT

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>>84452148
what did he fucking do this time?

was it about BC leaking the Marvel catalog? I mean sure, I enjoyed Scanbro's leaks too, but I can see being peeved by it. Marvel really ought to warn everyone "this is likely to leak so be prepared", by fucking now.

>>84452172
any good links/writeup that's not the Outhousers?

>>84452160
Except for Hawkman, who is fucking useless.

>>84452148

Like, Bruce making something to kill the Hulk sounds fine to me. Sure Bendis will ruin the execution but still. Also the last 2 issues of the Hulk book have been about how he's finally free of the Hulk and how good that is for him.

>>84452159

I disagree. I think it looks great.

>>84452172

I missed most of it but saw him compare BC to drug dealers and lost it laughing at the irony

>>84452200
you just hawked into the wrong thread friend

>>84452198
Yes it was about that

Even Brevoort got in on it

>>84452198
Brevoort is madder than mad. It's glorious.

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>>84452200
you shut your whore mouth

>>84452198
look at this delightful Nate

>>84452198
>was it about BC leaking the Marvel catalog?

pretty much


I always get a kick out of people being surprised/disappointed when Slott acts immature

The man is LITERALLY AND PHYSICALLY a giant baby

>>84452225
>>84452232
links please

>>84452221
Ooh, what's he gonna do, hit me with his wings? Cut me a break. And people say Aquaman is useless.

>>84452225
>>84452232

what i don't get is that clearly this is a problem. just do a DC Rebirth press conference ffs. If only some convention with a lot of attention around it was happening

>>84452200
>In the old league we never would have tolerated this foul language

>>84452122
I think I really just don't like the aesthetic of any of the costumes in that show besides evil Jay.

>>84452198
Long story short, Bleeding Cool scoops a couple of "spoilers" which are just Marvel's lineup of new books. Slott throws a SHITFIT over this, pisses over indie creators who do interviews with Bleeding Cool, compares it to being an indie filmmaker and working with people who make snuff films. Obviously hyperbole, but dude, that's the worst possible hyperbole to pick.

Someone pointed out that DC circumvented this by announcing their shit via press conference. Which is the smart move? No leaks, more hype.

I can't see the "leaks" here actually damaging Marvel's efforts that much, it's not like they had a great plan to make Solo their next smash hit.

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>>84452235
BTW, this is, as far as I can tell, the real locus classicus of "conservative asshole Hawkman", because we didn't hit any of that reading every single Hawkcomic from the Silver Age to the present

>>84452244
links, for the love of god, and/or copypasta of the best outrage

>>84452252
no, he's going to fly towards you at 200mph and knock your head off with a mace

>>84452108
Hello Storyteller.

>I hope u liek more Millennium
Must we do more Millennium?

>>84452235
>look at this delightful Nate
one of my favorite bits is when the crossover where the suicide squad and JLI fight, and he just gets into a tickle fight with Nightshade

>>84452122
was, is, and will always be shit

There is nothing appealing about the top of a dude's hair being exposed

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>>84452286
that was beyond cute in the best way.

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>>84452270
This was the big one, which he later deleted.

>>84452270
>>84440943

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>>84452271
Pfft, a mace, that's real novel. Is he gonna whip out a sword too? And look at him, he straight up looks like a faggot.

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oh god i don't wanna hear /co/ bitch about the ANAD Avengers Annual. brevoort posted this preview panel

>>84452312

>not recognizing Kid Flash as one of the GOAT costume designs

Busiek went on an old man rant about Pokemon Go being unsafe for children because they might wander off and die.

>>84452159
I think yellow/gold generally looks good on brown skin, undertones and shit though do play into it though.

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>>84452315
So yeah, get used to Katar being a stick in the mud for comic effect.

>>84452328
aha, thank you anon, I was out all day

>>84452148
Slott went fucking crazy.

>>84452335
>Busiek went on an old man rant about Pokemon Go being unsafe for children because they might wander off and die.
apparently people are using Pokemon Go to set up muggings? and some teenage girl found a body while she was playing

I don't wanna be all THINK OF THE CHILDREN but there are a lot of ways Pokemon Go can fuck you up

>>84452330
I just want Marvel to bring back Strange Tales.

Also they're STILL complaining about Kate as Hawkeye, which is so weird, as she's been in the role for fucking ever at this point. She's perfectly fine, she's just not made for them.

That Wasp cover sunk any hope I had real quick.

>>84452329
>Pfft, a mace, that's real novel. Is he gonna whip out a sword too?
His first appearance had him icing a guy with a crossbow. Carter rolls hard.
>>84452338
Oh shit, Katar?

>>84452330
oh geez

people also weirdly got mad at Gail Simone bc she retweeted a thing about Wonder Woman movie not having women writers but the person the original tweet was from is friends with devin faraci and that's horrible for reasons?

it was bizarre.

>>84452270
Hawkman and Green Arrow had a bunch of arguments in bronze age Justice League though.

>>84452244
>tfw you realise Humpty Dumpty in Living Hell is literally Dan Slott
also Living Hell was pretty good and IDK what really happened to Slott after that

An interesting thread to look at.
https://twitter.com/HackinTimSeeley/status/752957824896995329

>>84452358
Any hope for what?

>>84452356

Man new Strange Tales would rock. i wish they'd do anthologies. I love reading Island from Image bc of that.

& she's been Hawkeye literally since she was introduced! I kinda hope she starts building a new West Coast Avengers

>>84452330
I feel nothing as I shovel more dirt onto the grave Marvel has dug itself

>>84452358
>hope
heh

Yeah the tagline didn't give me any hope at all, and I really do want more mature books with female headliners
I hate how /co/ will like it just because they want to fuck her desu

>>84452359
>icing a guy with a crossbow
That's retarded. Am I supposed to think that's cool? Because it's not, it's just stupid that you'd use ancient weapons and try to pass it off as cool, even back in the 40's.

>>84452221
>just hawked in
My sucking fides

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>>84452352
Also, I sympathize greatly with Arlington National Cemetery here.

>>84452330
oh goddammit the shitposting will never end

>>84452366
Faraci's kind of toxic in his own way but some people on twitter get SUPERMAD about RTing anything he's been involved with, etc.

>>84452368
that is true; I feel like JMD Flanderizes even that, a bit, here

>>84452352
Yeah there is some potential danger but generally you have to be careful out there anyway especially pulling out an expensive electronic device, people are fucking nuts.

>>84452382
I wish I could be as diplomatic as Seeley one day

>>84452338
>This is what I get for working with my wife

We sure this isn't Carter?

>>84452172
Occupy Avengers really is a terrible title.
Should be Solo Avenger, if it is just about Clint, or like Avengers: The Resistance? Avengers: Revolution?

Avengers Radicalization?

>>84452423
true

I have also heard of some driving accidents that happened because idiots were playing it in the car

>>84452329
>>84452359
Hawkeye's mace usually is pretty comic book EXTREME in size IIRC. It would be fun to see different designs of it, lots of bird designs you could use.

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>>84452382
that was an interesting thread because the OP is one of the "If you're not talking about Berganza constantly you're part of the problem" bangers, but he has little to really say in response

>>84452437
It's Katar

>>84452270
>BTW, this is, as far as I can tell, the real locus classicus of "conservative asshole Hawkman", because we didn't hit any of that reading every single Hawkcomic from the Silver Age to the present

I'm pretty sure Beetle or Booster straight up calls him a Republican in a later issue, and Shayera basically agrees

Also you'd think a guy that flies around brutalizing people with medieval weaponry wouldn't be so squeamish about swearing

>>84452420
>G'nort is only a GL because of nepotism

>>84452352
>>84452420
Eat it grandpas

This isn't actually Katar btw

>>84452440

I would love Radical Avengers even if we'd only get shitty 90s jokes about it.

>>84452382

mentioning the Batgirl thing, it really doesn't seem like it would be hard to not fuck up.

>>84452420

i've enjoyed his stuff and followed him forever and don't really get the hate.

>>84452484
Fuck you, ya Threeboot-quoting chucklefuck.

>>84452244
> I, Dan Slott, am OUTRAGED that a comic news site would leak information about upcoming comics
> it's like they want people to go to their website!

I just don't understand why Marvel, knowing there was unreleased news in it, thought people wouldn't talk about the previews catalog once they got it in shops. What did they expect in the internet age?

>>84452490
I'm too drunk to put up with any Hawksnarl bullshit

He's Hawkman, he's flying around with the other heroes and they all know him. Don't complicate things!!

>>84452330
>godawful of all time
I couldn't agree with you more. And don't even get me started on the shitty name.

>>84452252
There is a very real possibility that in 5000 years of life, he's tortured the shit out of some people.

Maybe that time the Hawks were pirates.

>>84452475
I do understand and agree with his points though.

>>84452482
Has Dogfucker used G'nort yet btw?

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>>84452490
Oh riiiiight, this is the period actually affected by that crazy fucking Ostrander retcon, isn't it

>>84452491
he went past the place you should not go on some "lol kill yourself" rhetoric, way past.

>>84452515
The exact same thing happened last time! The same thing!

It's still so weird to think Marvel is so mad about leaks when they're so bad about marketing and pushing their own books.

Like they keep getting hammered on the lack of queer characters, and who knows, maybe they do have one among them - maybe they confirm Kate is bi, maybe Solo is suddenly gay, maybe new Wasp is queer. Worst possible option is "Oh, Slapstick's gay, hahaha, enjoy that, suckers", but it's still on the table.

If any of this is the case, when you're getting criticized that hard, instead of sitting on it, why not reveal the info and go balls to the wall promoting it? Holding back earns Marvel nothing here, and their promotion beyond pushing issue #1 of everything, if that, consistently stinks.

>>84452440
Avengers: Justice. The People's Avengers. Anything but Occupy Avengers, god.

>>84452528
No. I think Larfleeze/JL3001 is the last place G'nort has shown up

>>84452526
I enjoy the notion that the Hawks, in some lives, have been the bad guys.

>>84452266
Given the reactions Marvel No had been getting before the leaks, they should be goddamn joyful leaks made people interested in anything.

>>84452491
I don't like him ever since the James Rolfe thing. Let a guy have his own opinion, Jesus, ya fucking douchebag.

>>84452482
I love it when the space station they're on collapses and Hal convinces everyone it's not worth going back to check on G'nort


you know someone's a fuckup if Hal Jordan considers him an idiot

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>>84452547
>Worst possible option is "Oh, Slapstick's gay, hahaha, enjoy that, suckers", but it's still on the table.
>Slapstick is gay
>but he doesn't have a penis! you're welcome, LGBT readership

>>84452530
>Oh riiiiight, this is the period actually affected by that crazy fucking Ostrander retcon, isn't it
Yeah, which is a shame because not-Katar and not-Shayera are actually kind of entertaining here.

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>>84452527
I agree pros can do a lot in supporting and talking about harassment. I think it's stupid to lump Allie/Berganza together with Slott/Spencer. I wonder what to do in cases like Wiebe vs. Fowler on "what's going on with Rat Queens?" wherein two people say divergent things and it's possible to not want to accuse anyone of lying without knowing more, but you seem to be told to take a side.

>>84452575
fucking Byndis

>>84452547
>confirm Kate is bi
I actually hate that the fuel from this is that one "you're not that straight" line because goddamn.

>>84452270
When does this happen in relation to the Hawkworld/Truman+Ostrander series?

>>84452575
for a second I thought a giant arrow took his head off and I was like damn Clint that's hardcore

>>84452575
>green arrow

>>84452575
Damn you, Green-n-Purple Arrow, you bastard lovechild of Oliver Queen and Clint Barton!

>>84452608
before, I think

>>84452612
It's purple with a green rip

Because if it wasn't green, how else would it be an anti hulk arrow?

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>>84452397
>wanting a female lead who isn't a total womanchild
YOU WANT MATURE STORYLINES AND CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT? TOUGH SHIT, YOU READ ABOUT FEMALES, YOU WILL TAKE THIS OVERBEARING CUTESY SHIT/SHALLOW POWER FANTASY AND YOU WILL LIKE IT. YOU WANT AN ACTUAL STORY EXPLORING CHARACTERS WITH FLAWS AND STRUGGLES, YOU SHOULD BE READING ABOUT MEN. Yeah, I'm a little fucking bitter about this trend. What tipped you off?

>>84452607
Kate's straight as a line, it's just America has fetish for flustered girls.

I find it hard to imagine where the arrow hits him from the panels here, but apparently in like the side of the head?

>>84452530

like beyond the shitty tweets people repost? i'm cool with a yes/no to avoid dragging the thread into a talk about a relatively rando internet writer.

>>84452564

I mean, you put something out and criticism will happen. iirc the article was also more about the general anti-Ghostbusters feeling that the Rolfe video made finally explode.

also he's right about all the sexist shit it's getting

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>>84452608
This is earlier, and since they decided to use Hawkworld as a retconned origin for Katar and Shayera, they had to do this weird "This was Fel Andar on the League, actually!" stuff.

>>84452556
It did hurt the hype considering there's little to no information. Nobody's gonna say "oh Slapstick is getting a solo by literally who team and all information I have is this scanned cover, boy I'm excited." But that's the price you pay for catering to comic book shops who ironically are responsible for every possible leaks ever.

>>84452641
>>wanting a female lead who isn't a total womanchild
>sure all our female leads are teenagers and grown women who act like teenagers but now you have Jessica Jones. Based Bendis! :^)

>>84452607
>not wanting marvel to get shit for having other characters out two of their gay characters

>>84452564
All Rolfe even said was " No, I'm not really interested in seeing a remake of one of my favorite childhood movies"

And the internet, and even some celebrities, exploded on him

But hey, that video got millions of hits

>>84452649
>Kate's straight as a line
I think she's about as straight as a bow at this point. I expect Marvel will get around to doing that ship, but just imagine that line from America in reverse.

>>84452659
I'm talking about the "limp dick loser" tweet.

>>84452575
That is bad panel flow. Arrow flies towards the right, then the next panel you pan down and it's hit him from behind and from the right. That's like breaking the 180 rule on a projectile

>>84452605
Slott and Spencer are shit-stirrers who can't stop quote tweeting is their shit. Eventually, they'll accidentally do some real damage - Slott in particular, because he has a bigger following base, and he's far more aggro. He's an asshole, and he's going to hurt someone eventually, but (probably) not intentionally.

Which he'll apologize for...

And then do it again.

Allie and Berganza are much worse, for obvious reasons, but it really says something when you can be that much of a dickhead online, constantly, and nobody in your company seems to ever tell you you should maybe kinda probably reel it in. It speaks to a rotten company policy that quietly empowers and favors bullies/assholes (Slott) and outright abusers (ppppplenty that get swept under the comics dirt).

>>84452688
James isn't stupid, and he's been doing his thing for a while now

I gained a ton of respect for him simply because he didn't address the rabid backlash at all

no limpwristed apology video
no backtracking or "clarification" posts
not even a single tweet


That's called being an adult and not playing along with the current infantile outrage culture

>>84452575
Hail Bendis.

I just receiver the final JLI trade I needed for my collection. I now own;

A New Beginning
A New Beginning 2nd printing
The Secret Gospel of Maxwell Lord
the 4 hardcovers of the mid-2000 prints
and the 6 paperback of the mid-2000 prints

Slowly working on getting all the single issues again so I can bind all 100 or so issues.

>>84452160
Oh hey look, it's Hal's pedo love interest.

>>84452641

that's not what Thor's book is like
What is black widow?
Possibly Gamora too.

>>84452420
I am not a huge fan of the way Kevin Maguire draws G'nort.

But my first exposure to him WAS Green Lantern Corps Quaterly, were he was very much a cartoon dog man.

>>84452698

i mean......the line is different for all of us I guess

>>84452753
>What is black widow?
cancelled

>that's not what Thor's book is like
no it's worse
full of people acting out of character and strawmen beatdowns

>>84452753
>that's not what Thor's book is like
What IS it like? I've never actually heard anyone describe it beyond "Thor is a woman!"

>>84452725
>>84452688
Hell, I was excited for the idea of a female-led Ghostbusters flick. But then I saw the trailer.

>"I don't know if this is a race thing or a woman thing, but now I'm mad!"
Oh, that's unfortunate. Maybe next time.

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>>84452641
I guess the Grown-Ass Woman options at Marvel are Black Widow and Captain Marvel. Thor if Aaron stops the Feminism 101 already.

Spider-Woman barely counts, Mockingbird seems to probably be dead?

>>84452712
Brevoort as an employee is one thing, but I'm personally wary of wanting *more* corporate oversight over what freelancers say on their own accounts, unless they're gonna be paid and benefited like full employees.

>>84452352
On the other hand, apparently Westboro Baptist Church is getting Gay Trolled by being set up with a Pokemon Gym with pro-gay propoganda.

>>84452762
>I am not a huge fan of the way Kevin Maguire draws G'nort.
Maguire G'nort haunts my dreams.
What the fuck even is he

>>84452733
>Slowly working on getting all the single issues again so I can bind all 100 or so issues.

Yeah I'm only missing 3 issues of JLE and I'll have it all

>>84452771
That is a significant part of the book. There's a Roxxon/Loki plot and like a smear campaign in Asgard on female Thor.

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>>84452783
(I have no objections to feminism being in comics. I have objections to some dude writing it on a basic level so cack-handedly and then preening about how great he is for doing it.)

>>84452638
DAILY

>>84452771

Evil people, a whole cabal, are trying to take over the realms, Thor is trying to stop it.

Also Asgardian/Shi'ar War, What do we think of Aaron writing Legion?

and I thought Widow was on the checklist.

>>84452791
They responded to that in kind and quickly so I sort of wonder if the whole thing was a set-up to get them some media attention. Not like anyone came forward from conquering the gym, right?

>>84452690
What's this reference to?

How long until Marvel finally admits that torpedoing the X-Men line out of spite is doing them more harm than good?

>>84452330
>oh god i don't wanna hear /co/ bitch about the ANAD Avengers Annual. brevoort posted this preview panel
That's the one that is literally Kamala's fanfiction, right? If there's two artists, one for the fanfiction parts, and one for the actual characters, it could work. Especially if it turns out Kamala is actually a horrible writer.

>>84452824

at the end of Young Avengers America has a line about Kate being not as straight as she thinks she is. I read it as more flirting/messing with Kate than actually, "I have a rl gaydar and you're lighting up"

>>84452831
When x men sales plummet and they have nothing else to take their spot, especially the inhumans

>>84452783
Slott might as well be an exclusive at this point? Like, honestly. You'd have to beat him into the ground to take him away from Spider-Man.

I understand the concerns, absolutely, but it doesn't look like anyone even tells him "This isn't healthy for you, it doesn't look good for you, it'd probably be best if you stopped picking fights and flipping out on people?" Like not even as a company thing, but as coworkers, friends, something.

If people ARE telling him that behind the scenes, well, congratulations to them, but it's having no effect.

>>84452352
>and some teenage girl found a body while she was playing
She was 19! Legally, she's an adult.

>>84452547
>Avengers: Justice.

Sorry, no, that would have to be a Vance series. No negotiation.

>>84452855
>I understand the concerns, absolutely, but it doesn't look like anyone even tells him "This isn't healthy for you, it doesn't look good for you, it'd probably be best if you stopped picking fights and flipping out on people?" Like not even as a company thing, but as coworkers, friends, something.
Brevoort occasionally calls him to heel.

>>84452778
>idea of a female-led Ghostbusters flick.
I'd be down too if it had a better cast. I'm fine with Wigg, but not the other three

Just go full mid 2000's SNL and get Fey, Poehler, and Rudolph. Ghostbuster's is more than the proton packs and slimer, it's about great chemistry between funny people

>>84452834

yeah but it's got a bunch of people on it. I'm hoping for multiple fanfics

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>>84452816
I think there was basically AmeriKate in one of the Secret Wars comics, right?

A lot of people are so flustered that Marvel's barely using any of that stuff, but who is honestly surprised

Okay, I'm still surprised at Foolkiller/Solo/Slapstick, I admit. I'm trying to figure out the angle for each one.

>>84452855
oh, no, people have done that repeatedly. he's incorrigible and should be blocked.

>>84452861
hnnng

https://twitter.com/thesteveorlando/status/752910825686437888

>Steve Orlando @thesteveorlando
>New #comics from me and Jakub Rebelka! NAMESAKE at @boomstudios!

>The relationship between parents and children remains as complicated in life as it does in fiction. That's exactly what "Namesake," the new BOOM! Studios comic book series launching this November from writer Steve Orlando and artist Jakub Rebelka, will focus on -- but with a series of twists.

>The four-issue fantasy series stars Jordan, a young man with an unusual mission: he needs to bring the corpses of his dads to a world called Ektae to fulfill a deep familial obligation. With two dads -- one from Earth, the other from Ektae -- Jordan utilizes the one time every seven years when the two worlds interconnect to carry their urns to a final resting place.

>>84452831
They're trying to do the old "Make 'em mad" gambit for the X-Line (and by extension generate sales for Inhumans), but it's not working, because X-Men have been in "We're all gonna die!" as status quo for the majority of their time since, like, House Of M? It's not shock, it's not anger, it's "okay we're doing this again".

And Inhumans don't have enough pull to make Inhumans Vs. X-Men as an event sell like Avengers Vs. X-Men.

>>84452555
Well, not necessarily Bad Guys, so much as following the moral code of the day.

There's no way that the Hawks didn't own slaves almost all the time up until the last 200 years or so, y'know?

>>84452855
this is pure speculation on my part but I get the feeling Slott isn't really held in high regard by other writers/functioning adults

>>84452816
That's Rucka too btw who everyone here unironicaly enjoys, Rucka isn't as obnoxious and loud as Aaron and his writing is more solid.

>>84452880

Even that I think was flirting in Siege. We did get Leah/Magik in Siege.

which, confirming Illyana as gay, was long overdue

>>84452861
Avengers: Cry for Justice

Avengers: Gay for Justice

>>84452575
Hulk, Busted.

>>84452880
>I think there was basically AmeriKate in one of the Secret Wars comics, right?
Yeah, they escaped from Battleworld together. And there was Leah/Magik (Magik so should have been the Bobby moment in X-Men IMO).

>>84452783
>if Aaron stops the Feminism 101 already.

It's as bad as whenever he tries to tackle religion. He comes across as that kid who set in church with his arms crossed because he didn't want to go, but his parents dragged him along until he left for college and announced he was an atheist

>>84452913

people got so mad at me when i said i was over Rucka bc i was bored of his lead character.

>>84452668
How are the rings functioning in a yellow building? That's Bendis levels of own-continuity ignoring

>>84452913
Rucka just approaches it as a non-hack and writes female characters three-dimensionally, he doesn't jerk himself off over how progressive and brave he's being

>>84452880
Either "Deadpool means these guys will sell without Deadpool in the name! Definitely!", or there's an editor with a boner for those specific three.

I'm betting on the former. It's a stupid decision for a comic book, there's no way it'd sell, and it's exactly the kind of thinking that goes into Marvel deciding on new books.

>>84452916
I don't think it confirmed shit in the mainstream universe, anon.

>>84452605
Hawkman looks like he just woke up from a nap.

>>84452607
I dunno, she seemed preeetty gay for Madame Masque.

>>84452945
>How are the rings functioning in a yellow building?
Why wouldn't they function in a yellow building? it's not like they're doing stuff to the walls

>>84452855
Both him and Spencer are exclusives. Slott's probably with contract and DC would never hire Spencer. So there's that.

>>84452945
they're not being sprayed with mustard, so I don't see the problem

they aren't trying to use the rings on the walls themselves

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>>84452880
Dr. Fate is 100% racist against robots

>>84452913
Rucka can be a blunt object too but note how execution goes a long way on that front.

>>84452951
Looking at just what we have, Solo looks like it's the relatively straightforward "dude with guns" action book, maybe lighter on the comedy--so a little bit Mr. Stroke, yes?

>>84452955

i feel like Gillen tweeted or something it was 616 Magik??? Maybe i'm making things up.

while we're at it Kitty should be gay and Storm poly.

>>84452999
Bi. I mean, Storm should be poly, but that's not the same thing as bi or pan or however you wanna call it.

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>>84452995
HERE IT IS

G'nort will be fine...

>Dan Slott @DanSlott
>Random fact:
>People deal w/ industry problems and complex issues w/o it appearing on their twitter feeds all the time. Weird, right?

>Tom Brevoort
>@TomBrevoort
>@DanSlott Nobody that writes Silver Surfer, though.

lol

>>84452989

Well I don't think Spencer would go back to DC either.

>>84452999
But if Kitty is gay how can she be with male writers' self inserts?

>>84452999
>i feel like Gillen tweeted or something it was 616 Magik???
What does that count for? I'm not trying to be rude here - what's Gillen writing for Marvel now?

>>84452849
>You're not as gay as you think you are
I want it just to fuck with yurifags

>>84453012

I feel like Storm would fuck an alien if they had a connection.

starts looking through legion files for good ship material

>>84452874
>it's about great chemistry between funny people
This is what really bothers me about this new wave of so called "feminist" writing. All these supposed feminist characters, aren't actually characters. It's like people assume that having women as the protagonist is enough, when regardless of sex/race/what have you, if your leads are shallow non-entities, your story is going to suck.

None of the NuGhostbusters promo material has given any attention to who these new Ghostbusters are, or how they bounce off each other. It's kinda sad.

>>84452792
WHY DOES HE HAVE A HUMAN NOSE!?!

>>84452940
There few writers who literally write same protagonists. Ellis writes Ellis protagonist, Rucka writes Rucka females.

>>84453040

Well personal satisfaction, but it could be like in the air at the X-offices but no one will confirm on page bc of how they are staying away from LGBT

>>84452999
Claremont himself nixed the idea of Kitty really being bi, she's just a tease.

>>84453081
>X-offices
Oh anon...

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>>84453022

>>84453052
I would fuck an alien if we had a connection. Except the ones that look like dudes 'cause that's totally gay.

>>84453057

Fieg's movies NEVER have good trailers, his humor doesn't work for it because it's so character based. you can't get it in 30 seconds/2:30 .

>>84453083

I said gay not bi.

>>84453098

>lemire crying under his desk

>>84453114
The outcome's the same, she has no interest in other women.

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>>84453099

>>84453110

i'm so mad sulu isn't married to a male alien in nutrek

>>84452849
America is cocky and brusque and it's an okay line for her. I'd even take it as trainwreck "I'm gonna tell you how gay you are" first queer romance, but that's not what a lot of the ship fans want.

>>84453057
>if your leads are shallow non-entities, your story is going to suck.

That was Simon Pegg's main argument for why Sulu should be gay and not a new character. That if they just introduced a new gay character they would be defined by it and a token. Where as Sulu has been around for two films and the audience already knows him, being gay was just something that never came up because in the future it's not a big deal

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>>84453114
>killing Kitty/Pete
Nyet

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>>84453150

>>84453114
>lemire crying under his desk
Probably true, nigga would've been writing Batman or Justice League if he stuck around at DC, fucked off to Marlel and got screwed over. Well at least he still has Descender.

>>84453140
they could have at least adopted an alien baby

I'm mad Pegg said this

>The main thrust for those who aren’t keen on our LGBT Sulu, seems to come down to two things. Firstly, why Sulu? It’s a good point, I mean it could have been anybody: Kirk is a pansexual fun seeker; who knows why Bones got divorced? Nobody said Spock and Uhura were exclusive; Chekov is just permanently horny and let’s face it, there’s more to Scotty and Keenser than meets the eye.

you didn't have to pick just one!

>>84453140
And I awoke and found me here on the cold hill’s side got it right.

>>84453187
I could go a gay Bones if only for the "gay bones" jokes.

>>84453083
>Claremont himself nixed the idea of Kitty really being bi
No he didn't. In X-Men: The End Kitty's unnamed partner who died was Rachel Summers

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>>84453170
reminder that the main thing that came out of Millennium was Englehart NG, and the thing we know from that is, of course

SNOWFLAME

>>84453187
in fact, if you show some variety, then Sulu doesn't have to be The One Non-Het

>>84453187

i am glad there's an actual star trek fan working on that movie this time

>>84453187
the fact that they asked Takei about it beforehand, and then just ignored his thoughtful misgivings anyway, should tell you everything about this whole "situation"

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>>84453224
(the last Trek I really watched was DS9, to give you another idea of how creaky I am)

>>84453150
I like how Scott occasionally references the horrendous suffering of Apokolips and everyone just kind of washes over it or tells him to chill. Scott is, so far, probably the lamest hero here right?

>>84453187
I get the feeling that he actually did.

And it couldn't be Kirk, because Kirk's the lead. Old director/the money behind the movie fights. I like the idea of a bunch more queer people in Trek, they should be loaded to the gills with them and without incoherent coming out stories, but I know even when you're making sci-fi, you're playing by the ballame rules of the money funding your operation, and they can be quick to go "3 gays? what's up with that? this a gay movie or something?"

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>>84453244

>>84453244
I've never been into Trek tbqh.

>>84453244

I have intentionally only watched TOS but isn't that like the last good one?

>>84453249

maybe this time Kirk'll just be in a huge orgy instead of rando green lady.

>>84453245
Literally nothing lame about Mr. Miracle.

>>84453245
he's kind of a stick in the mud compared to some of his teammates, but cut scott some slack

I'd say Guy is probably lamer. But you're not really supposed to take him seriously at all

>>84453244
Depending on who you ask they'll say you watched the last good Trek show

I've yet to watch Voyager so I can't confrim

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>>84453284
I saw some random Voyager and it ranged from 'largely watchable' to 'wow, sexy Borg lady' to 'MY EYEEEEEEES'

>>84453245
There's nothing lame about Mr. Miracle or him getting dommed by his huge amazing wife.

>>84453249
>"3 gays? what's up with that? this a gay movie or something?"
Star Trek is for faggots so yes

>>84453276
>Millennium is finally over
Oh thank grife.

OP does your elderly pup like baby carrots?

My old gal does

>>84453292
The eye holes were a mistake.

>>84453223
That sounds like a misreading, because that guy gave her children and died, and Rachel was there through the end.

>>84453244
I only got into Star Trek this year, I am behind all the times

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>>84453308
sexy Borg lady resulted in this, which I remember reading on Usenet:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.music.filk/aWQ_4Yoc-GY/oh21s_H_LU0J

>>84453336
He has in the past but not sure about now. He loves broccoli stalks, always cook them extra for him. His happiness is worth the indescribably foul dog gas.

I'm worried, his front legs were shaky the other night, and up until now it's just been the hind.

>>84453301
The lamest character is clearly Batman. This is Post Crisis, he needs to off somewhere brooding about Jason Todd and fighting The Mudpack

>>84453330
just a few issues till Invasion yippee!

>>84453358
I watched some TNG and original series eps when I used to work nights, they were always on early morning when I got home.

>>84453249
>but I know even when you're making sci-fi, you're playing by the ballame rules of the money funding your operation, and they can be quick to go "3 gays? what's up with that? this a gay movie or something?"
that's true, yeah

they really went out of their way to make the reboot stuff seem less gay than TOS though. spock and uhura is the most laughably transparent NO HOMO I've ever seen

>>84453340
Not really, the costume fits its origins.

>>84453361
>Usenet

Hahaha, I'd talk shit, but I'm probably only 2 years or so younger than you.

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>>84453361
dat beat panel

>>84453375
I watched the nuTrek movies because of the Star Trek/GL crossover and then I watched TOS and DS9 after that

literally the only tv/movies I have seen since January is Star Trek

>>84453364
Fuck you, the Mudpack was awesome. Grant/Breyfogle are the GOAT Bat-team.

>>84453390
I love Maguire's beat panels. Even when he's doing stuff where it's the "same" panel, he changes an expression, a pose, something. If someone is in the exact same position as the previous panel, then it's done with intent.

>>84453380
It looks better when the red lining covers the skin or when he's white-eyed.

>>84453346
Claremont said it in a podcast interview on Jay and Miles X-Plain the X-Men

It's a fun listen because he talks about the creative process at Marvel back when he was starting compared to now where, according to him, you have so many eyes on you at all times it's impossible to really create

>>84453361
>I'm worried, his front legs were shaky the other night, and up until now it's just been the hind.


Not a vet but just curious, is he on any medications? My old lab had been having some joint problems and a limp, and at her last check up they put her on gabapentin and carprofen. She's been getting around a lot easier now. Granted, she's never gonna reach her puppy levels of activity/energy, but she's been having a noticeably easier time getting up and running around

>>84453379

even though I agree about the NO HOMOness, i watched TOS after the movie and saw enough to be like "Oh I get the ship"

>>84453390
WHAT IS THIS BENDIS OR SOMETHING

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>>84453384
I sincerely miss many things about Usenet. Warlording .sigs, kooks like Ludwig Plutonium, the absolute hatred of the personal shitfights on rec.music.classical, and the dude who posted his guitar concerti under the name Jarl Sigurd.

>>84453406
https://twitter.com/steve_lieber/status/752996762521133061

>>84453398
I agree. He doesn't need to be the fun police here when he could be battling Ratcatcher or The Ventriloquist

>>84453412

reading those old stories it's fucking amazing any comics got made and actually were good

>>84453412
Not just so many eyes, you don't have any time.

Claremont size runs don't really exist anymore, unless you're Hickman, who wasted all those precious extra issues and pages he got. Fucker.

>>84453437
Also, what qualified as a "shitstorm" or flamewars or dedicated trolls were... decidedly smaller compared to today.

Y'know, logically speaking, Kirk probably should be pansexual(or whatever the proper term is). Do you really think he'd give a shit so long as he was getting it from someone? Dude's a bit of a ho.

>>84453420
the one or two times she flirts with him is cute but he comes off as basically asexual and they'd be weird in a relationship

plus Scotty and Uhura is real cute

>>84453412
I guess he can headcanon things after the fact, but it doesn't make sense given what's there on the page.

>>84453437
I understand so little of that.

>>84453446
My favorite was Jim Starlin. He wouldn't turn in pages until he was at the deadline so editorial had little to no time to do any changes because he knew they would rather ship the comic than not

>>84453457
>Do you really think he'd give a shit so long as he was getting it from someone?

I think you mean "as long as he was giving it to someone", but I agree

>>84453455

also Duggan somehow has been on Deadpool forever.

Closest we got is stuff from the 00s like Johns' Lantern, Bru Cap, Maybe the Morrison BatEpic?

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>>84453416
Just the twice-daily insulin. He's got noticable arthritis in the back hips, and a heart murmur, so we have to be careful with him.

Also, he's already burned a huge hole in the pocket--not that I'd skimp on treatment, but I'm reluctant to take him back to the vet more often for more things.

>>84453455
Some of the flamewars were insanely personal and very long-running, and newbies to a group had to learn carefully who and what to avoid.

>>84453457
I'd be fine with Kirk just being a Constantine level hedonist

>>84453438
which is basically the same realization he reaches later in the run when he takes all his toys and goes home in a huff

>>84453483

70s Marvel is the best.

>you will never walk around NYC stoned and/or tripping and coming up with Marvel stories

>>84453457
same, he is a kind soul who should be willing to share himself with aliens of all compositions

>>84453455
>>84453494

i fell down a rabbit hole of old harry potter internet drama the weekend, trying to understand some of that shit is like getting into big 2

>>84453494
It's a lot harder to get that here, see the "OP is a faggot" anon in these threads. OTOH, sigs would destroy this place. Good April Fool's idea.

>>84453487
Slott's been on Spider-Man for nearly six years now and considering that the title double-shipped for the longest time it's as if he's been on it for nearly double that.

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>>84453494
meta!

>>84453487
Duggan has being doing long-form on Deadpool because they've let him sit on it an extraordinary length for this day and age, and NOT relaunched it unnecessarily.

>>84453529
oh shit, which one because I was probably lurking watching

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>>84453536
I wanna see people do BUAGs and warlord swords and make it work!

>>84453494
That is true. They didn't have the sheer volume of groups, but boy, some stalkers.

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>>84453538
What other long running runs are going on right now?

>tfw Venditti will have put out at least 4 years or more worth of GL by the time he fucks off

>>84453509
Everyone had to be in NYC, so you had just about the whole industry in one town. The way Frank Miller tells it you had this great amount of artistic exchange and competitiveness that drove people to always try and do better than their pals

>>84453538
In all seriousness, what will it take for Slott to ASM?

I don't see Pete's sales dropping below 50k, especially with a big storyline coming every year and a half at least.

How old is Slott?

>>84453487
Snyder's Batman and Johns' Justice League are 50+ issues too desu.

>>84453538
Too bad that with all that time all he keeps doing is trying to have ever more world changing events and shakeups.

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>>84453578
alt.religion.scientology was a hoot for the longest time, including people doing serious activist work before it got cool.

>>84453566
I am too young for Usenet but I find the Internet Oracle thing really appealing.

>>84453494
>He's got noticable arthritis in the back hips, and a heart murmur, so we have to be careful with him.
>Also, he's already burned a huge hole in the pocket--not that I'd skimp on treatment, but I'm reluctant to take him back to the vet more often for more things.

Again, not a vet but just a fag on /co/ (well I'm in pharmacy school but not quite qualifed to consult pet-owners), but I would reccomend carprofen. It's available over the counter, and it's literally aspirin for dogs

Check it out if you get the chance, it's not likely to upset his stomach and it won't bother his heart either. Obviously you should keep an eye on your pet whenever you start them on anything new, but there's very low risk of side-effects and I've heard good things about it from other old dog owners and I like I said previously, I can vouch for its benefits for my old miss

>>84453538
And he was also part of the BND rotating team for a few years before that

>>84453486
>>84453527
Kirk would be all about the Harkness Test.

>>84453501
He probably is. We just don't see it because nobody wants edgy Star Trek.

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>>84453607
oh, the Internet Oracle was fun

and I still use Kibo as a point of reference for "namesearches self obsessively but made it fun instead of getting into stupid and aggressive shit about it". Slott could learn much from Kibo.

>>84453614
my vet is a godsend and actually answers questions at length, so I will ask her about it. I just don't want to mix anything with the insulin without running it past her.

>>84453587
He's not dying soon anon.

>>84453541

some lady plagiarized a bunch of shit for her Draco fanfics, it was a huge article i've only like half finished.

>>84453654
>my vet is a godsend and actually answers questions at length, so I will ask her about it. I just don't want to mix anything with the insulin without running it past her.

pffttt quit being a worrywart. Just tell her you got advice from one of the anonymous jabronis you discuss comic books with. I'm sure she won't mind

>>84453672
So he's just gonna stay on for forever?

>>84453651
>edgy Star Trek
I'm not talking about being a drug addict. Just having Kirk as a man who enjoys all that life is willing to give him. It can be shocking to the audience, but in universe? It's just the future

Although I do know that the drinks on board a ship are all made with synthehol and don't actually get people drunk. When Picard's brother gave him a bottle of wine he had to remind him it was the real stuff

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>>84453696
OHHHH. Yes. The Cassandra Cla(i)re stuff.

The first Shadowhunter book liberally recycled her fic, that I can tell you.

>>84453592

Snyder's is still going really, just All Star. and he's basically said he and Capullo are ready to go back at it

>>84453585

also you could get mugged and then make amazing comics! fucking Giuliani

>>84453705
>>84453654
From the internet oracle no, really, I do see a comparison between that and here.

>>84453654
Slott's a comedian who's incapable of laughing at himself.

If, in some wild alternate universe, he was on a Dean Martin roast, it is entirely possible he would try to murder Dean Martin, and everyone else there, after about 10 minutes.

>>84453716
>Although I do know that the drinks on board a ship are all made with synthehol and don't actually get people drunk. When Picard's brother gave him a bottle of wine he had to remind him it was the real stuff
TOS had actual alcohol, I think

or at least Scotty and McCoy did

>>84453717

what's weird is that like a few weeks before i had read an article about her as like "Fanfic writer makes good"

plate of shrimp

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>>84453717
Nate's gettin' some /d/!

>>84453721
I wanna know when Snyder will write something at DC that's not Batman again.

>>84453716

>When Picard's brother gave him a bottle of wine he had to remind him it was the real stuff

see that kinda shit keeps me away from TNG

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These threads have been making me check out JLI online because I haven't read it in forever

I just wanted to post this page because it just might be the best page I've read in quite a while

>>84453765
I somehow manage to always watch the same one episode of TNG and it's just Picard and his brother bitching at each other in a vineyard and nothing to do with space.

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>>84453707
Well there's always some other options. Life, uhmm, finds a way

>>84453765
It was a pretty touching episode

>>84453765
I've been trying to get through TNG season 1 but it's a struggle

supposedly it gets better with s3 but I have also been told I can't just skip the first two seasons so I guess I'm supposed to sit through 50 shitty episodes before it gets good

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>>84453750
Well, in the long run of things, she did make good. I know a lot of people in fandom still despise her for a wide variety of reasons (she was a bully, too), but she's writing disposable YA EFP that's got a following, so I guess she wins.

>>84453780
>You wanna talk about snuff films, Dan?

>>84453759

Wave 2 a coming.

snyder legion y'all

>>84453696
>Draco fanfics
Ah, old school Potter fandom. Shine on you crazy diamonds.

Honestly though, I'll happily take that insanity over the whole fear-mongering bullshit from moral guardians. How sad and empty is your life that you spend all day attacking Harry Potter for being some alleged devil worshiping thing? The best was when they claimed HP taught people witchcraft. Yeah.

>>84453795
>EFP
?

>>84453802

>RJ Brande always said.....

>>84453813
The Harry Potter books are lame for witchcraft. I read Sabriel first, you know.

>>84453759
Next year's main event with Capullo.

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>>84453827
Extruded Fantasy Product

>>84453795
BTFO Batsy

>>84453802
But there are so many Legionnaires, he can't possibly have that many fathers tell them stories as a child

>>84452792
You never seen the Dog Faced Boy?

>>84453789
Nah you can skip episodes, there's a decent episode guide

Measure of a Man in Season 2 is probably the first great episode. It's a trial about whether or not Data is a person or property

https://medium.com/maxistentialism-blog/star-trek-the-next-generation-in-40-hours-c4a6762cbd3#.diwdk8e1t

>>84453860
Actually, a fair number of Legionnaires have prominent relationships with their mothers. Imra and Tinya immediately come to mind.

>implying comic writers give a even the vaguest shit about mother/daughter relationships
.... Sigh. I know. Wishful thinking.

>>84453860
He'll have to cram it all into one specific character with about 32 dads.

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>>84453849

>>84453902
All of the legion are fused into one baby?

>>84453879
that is extremely helpful, thank you!

>>84453896
>>84453860
>>84453902

Brande you dummies!

>>84453902
>Snyder's Legion OC is a character called Daddys Girl
>her power is having 32 dads

>>84453914
No, we just do a little different character history, and bam, Reep Daggle has 32 dads

>>84453922
Oh shit you're RIGHT. He's the entire legion's dad!

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>>84453911

>>84453939

and also Cham's actual dad! So we get Cham POV for the first arc which yes

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>>84453951
>He's the entire legion's dad!
and if it's a continuity where Durlans actually take on the properties of what they shift into, he really COULD be the entire Legion's dad!

>>84453965
He could have shapeshifted into all of their different fathers and so literally be all of their dads.

Anon cracked CW2

>>84453950

>>84453970
>>84453976

>RJ Brande is J'onn and because the Legion came back in time he made sure they would exist in the future by being all of their dads.

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>>84453976
>>84453970
GMTA

also, who do we have to fuck to get adorable and cheeky Nate back

>>84453980
>If it's problematic, we need to know before we buy it so we can boycott!
Seems legit.

>>84453848
Speaking of Capullo, anybody willing to storytime quasar vol. 1? I can't do it because of timezones and I don't want to storytime to a sleeping audience.

>>84454014
Whoever cares about Nate lol

>>84453599
How old are you?

What is dis?
https://twitter.com/andykhouri/status/752618576545132545

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>>84454026
if you get me Quasar I will run it

I've been meaning to do some Wendell, that was totally on the Marvel docket

>>84454000
>>84454014
RJ Brande being everyone's dad also explains the Legion's at times questionable recruitment criteria. The duplicate power thing is just a cover, really you have to be RJ Brande's kid. Leland McCauley was right all along.

>>84454050

i first thought is suicide squad something

>>84454050
https://twitter.com/andykhouri/status/752618960735002625
>I promise you, this one doesn't mean "hope".

Suicide Squad something?

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>>84454048
:D :D :D :D

snap! snap, little clam!

>>84454050

left marking is maybe a u?

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>>84454087
HMMMM

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>>84454148
best chair

thanks for reading, more tomorrow!

I know we're going slowly, but it's just how this material is seeming to roll.

>>84454108
Yeah, now begins the butchering if Metron. Post Crisis did everything to shit on New Gods.

>>84453813
I had a friend growing up who wasn't allowed to read HP or play Pokemon. Smash Bros was interesting for the "does it count as breaking the rule if no one picks Pikachu" dilemma.

>>84454148
>Gosh willikers!
Dmitri, pls.

Also, go away, Metron. Nobody likes you.

>>84454058
I got my scans from a torrent 2 years ago though.
I guess try this one (no spaces):
getcomics . info/marvel/quasar-vol-1-1-60/

>>84454162
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

The slower pace isn't really a problem here, since JLI is coming off as more of a slice of life book than anything.

>>84454148
Dmitri is cute. CUTE!

>>84454203
also, it's dense comics, there's a lot on each page

>>84454170
there is literally nothing wrong with the portrayal of the New Gods in JLI

The trip to Apokolips is humorous, but fuck off it's a comedy book

>>84453951
Man, Max really didn't learn his lesson on dealing with rogue omnipresent programs, did he?

>>84453980
deep

>>84453717
Sure is /d/ in here.

>>84454294
Metron is way ooc in next issue.
>Don't criticize my darling book
Sorry anon, I love this run too but his portrayal and whole character here was shit.

>>84454050
Thought it might just be the new Vigilante logo, he tweeted before the announcement I think. Southland being the bottom part.

>>84454493
Can you elaborate? Because Metron has always been an asshole

I don't think it's so far OOC for him to be a grumpy dick to a bunch of yahoos that crash into his little private hideyhole

Maybe it doesn't bother me that much because there's been waaaay worse butchering of the 4th world over the years

>>84454528
Well he's an observer, I don't think he's ever the guy to take matters in his hands. And he's a dick but not a grandstanding loud and obnoxious dick.
>Maybe it doesn't bother me that much because there's been waaaay worse butchering of the 4th world over the years
True.

>>84454554

did Brevoort and Slott literally not just have a huge fit about leaks and spoilers a few hours ago

>>84454743
>how DARE Rich beat us to spoiling our own books!

>>84454752
I never thought I'd say the day where /co/ actually defends BC or Rich Johnson.

But Brevoorts impotent rage is just too good.

>>84452951
I think they may all be edited by Jordan White? Who seems like one of the more competent current Marvel editors?

>>84455124
Bleeding Cool and Rich vs Marvel Writers vs the Outhousers makes me happy, because I win no matter who gets insulted.

>>84455311
this desu
it's delicious

>>84452995
>Dr. Fate is 100% racist against robots

But Robots is all kinds of orderly!

>>84453149
The problem with making established characters gay is that they also become defined by it and token.

When's the last time Northstar was written as a right proper dick like he used to be?

>>84454743

someone pointed it out in the thread, but this is Marvel controlling the news. Not bleeding cool or 4chan leaking it