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EXCLUSIVE: Marvel kills off major Avenger in 'Civil War II'

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http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/exclusive-marvel-kills-major-hero-killer-shocker-article-1.2708495

>Hulk smashed!

>Marvel Comics killed off the character's human alter ego, Dr. Bruce Banner, in "Civil War II" #3, out Wednesday — a demise more shocking because it’s courtesy of an arrow to the head from Hawkeye, his Avengers teammate.

>“This is uncharted territory for us,” Marvel Editor in Chief Axel Alonso told the Daily News.

>“Only two things are for certain: it will take a long, long time for our heroes to come to terms with his loss, and the circumstance surrounding his death will leave a huge scar on the superhero community.”

>That’s because the archer skewers his pal on the belief that Banner is about to turn into the Hulk and unleash massive death and destruction. Banner had recently given him the special arrow and asked for a mercy killing in case of disaster.

Wasn't Brevoort just complaining on Twitter earlier about news sites spoiling events and reveals? Isn't he in a position of power to prevent such things from happening, or at least to suggest against giving exclusives to the NY Daily News and other rags?
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>>84454554
So they just gave up huh.
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>>84454554
>This is uncharted territory for us
No it's not.
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>>84454554
OLLIE HOW COULD YOU
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>>84454554
>But adding to the angst, the beleaguered scientist, who's played by Mark Ruffalo in the Marvel movies, had been successfully medicating himself to keep his anger management issues in check for a year.

>"Fans may be outraged, and there are probably ‘Hawkeye’ writers who I'm very good friends with who will also be offended," said Brian Michael Bendis, the writer of the "Civil War II" event series. "But the point is that everything that happens in this issue is in character when you discover the hows and whys and wheres.

>"We'll let people argue about it."

>Older fans of the Green Goliath are sure to see red.

>Banner has been Hulking out into one of the publisher's most popular characters since 1962, when creators Stan Lee and Jack Kirby dreamed up the Gamma Bomb blast that turned the scientist into a modern Dr. Jekyll.

>Recently, though, there has been a new Hulk — whose alter ego is a Korean-American teen genius named Amadeus Cho.

>He's part of Marvel's push to add much-needed diversity to the four-color panel world of comic books. Thor is now a woman; the black hero Falcon is now fighting crime as the red, white and blue garbed Captain America.

>And just last week, geeks learned Riri Williams, a 15-year-old African-American girl, will inherit Iron Man's armor.

>"For all the people who seem really excited about Riri Williams, who's going to take on the role of Iron Man, there were letters over the course of the week, which all said, 'I am a long-time reader, I'm 50-something years old, why are you destroying all the characters that I love? I can't find a character that looks like me anymore,'" says Tom Brevoort, Marvel's senior VP of publishing on the company’s efforts to appeal to an underrepresented audience.
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>Hulk
>major Avenger
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>>84454574
>"But the fact is you still don't have to throw a dart to find a white male character in our publishing line."

>Readers may have reason to be skeptical about Banner's fate, because superheroes killed off in the comic books tend to eventually make miraculous recoveries.

>Captain America and Spider-Man both recently died with much fanfare, only to come back within a year. And rival DC Comics made headlines in 1992 by bumping off Superman, who returned to his comics faster than a speeding bullet.

>"Right now I can tell you this is the real deal," says Bendis. "I can't speak for the future, I honestly can't, who knows what will happen? But I already have plans for the body (in upcoming issues.)"

Pic related is an earlier spread in the issue, so it seems.
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>>84454554
>This is uncharted territory for us
>Only two things are for certain: it will take a long, long time for our heroes to come to terms with his loss, and the circumstance surrounding his death will leave a huge scar on the superhero community
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>>84454554
what is it with Marvel and killing off characters to replace them? why can't there be more than one hero with the same name?

I mean, theres 5 or so different Flashes out there at DC, so why not here?
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>>84454554
>This is uncharted territory for us
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>>84454574
>underrepresented audience.
But there not an underrepresented audience at all there are a huge amount t of black hero's.
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>kills off Caucasian hulk
>asian hulk still lives on
Wow it really makes you think
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>>84454554
Meh.
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>>84454554
So what dimension is Banner in?
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>>84454592
>Captain America and Spider-Man both recently died with much fanfare, only to come back within a year. And rival DC Comics made headlines in 1992 by bumping off Superman, who returned to his comics faster than a speeding bullet.
Wait so are they not going to mention the recent supes stuff here.

That's just shoddy journalism.
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>>84454554
>"This is uncharted territory for us"
>Killing off a character
>Uncharted territory
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>>84454645
That Superman hasn't come back yet, so it wouldn't be relevant.
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>>84454644
The Microverse obviously.
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>>84454656
I think marvel says that about everything they do
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>>84454554
>bitches about something being spoiled on twitter
>then precedes to spoil something else a day later

did they notice the leaked pic from facebook and just say fuck it, like DC did with DCU Rebirth and those leaks?
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>50 years of HULK IS THE WORST, KILLS INNOCENTS, etc etc
>Someone does something about it
>With Banner's blessing
>Everyone loses their minds
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>>84454574
>"Fans may be outraged, and there are probably ‘Hawkeye’ writers who I'm very good friends with who will also be offended," said Brian Michael Bendis, the writer of the "Civil War II" event series. "But the point is that everything that happens in this issue is in character when you discover the hows and whys and wheres.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>84454635
More like makes you chink amiright
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>>84454592
>Have vision of Hulk killing every superhero
>Could use knowledge to keep them away
>Bring every superhero to Hulk
Dear Dread Dormammu, Carol, do you get off to the thought of bringing lambs to the slaughter?
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>>84454682
>did they notice the leaked pic from facebook and just say fuck it, like DC did with DCU Rebirth and those leaks?
Probably yes
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>>84454554

>“Only two things are for certain: it will take a long, long time for our heroes to come to terms with his loss, and the circumstance surrounding his death will leave a huge scar on the superhero community.”

So, by "a long, long time", he means "about a year or two"; by "our heroes to come to terms with his loss", he means "for him to come back to life"; and by "will leave a huge scar on the superhero community", he means "will be pretty much forgotten about in-universe and out about half a year after he comes back", right?
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>>84454683
Why didn't they just make Bruce a better character?
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>>84454684
I think fans of Clint are just neutral. Its more like a Here We Go Again Bendis.
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>>major Avenger
>>Hulk
He hasn't been an Avenger for since prior to AvX!
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>>84454574
>But the point is that everything that happens in this issue is in character when you discover the hows and whys and wheres
Doesent he normaly wait until after the comic is out to defend his blatent disregard for prior characterisation.
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>>84454704
Yes, but you could have green texted all that put FTFY and it would have saved you some troubles.
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>>84454574
MUCH
NEEDED
DIVERSITY
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>>84454692
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>>84454710

They tried several times, but Marvel likes to return everything to status quo
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he'll live
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>>84454692
Headcannon acquired
Far more interesting to think about then the comic itself thats for sure.
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>Bendis Kills the Marvel Universe
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FUCK THIS COMPANY I AM SO DONE

HULK HAS BEEN FUCKING NOWHERE IN CONTINUITY FOR YEARS, WHY THE FUCK WOULD ANYONE CARE

>HURR IT'LL MAKE SENSE IN THE END GAIZ TRUST ME

OK MR. SHORT TERM MEMORY LOSS I TOTALLY TRUST YOU TO WRITE SOMETHING OTHER THAN A BULLSHIT COP OUT ENDING YOU THOUGHT OF ON THE FLY

FUCK THIS IM VOTING FOR TRUMP
ENOUGH IS FUCKING ENOUGH
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WHERE'S DAN SLOTT WHERE YOU NEED HIM TO COMPLAIN ABOUT LEAKS?!
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>>84454574
>"Fans may be outraged, and there are probably ‘Hawkeye’ writers who I'm very good friends with who will also be offended," said Brian Michael Bendis, the writer of the "Civil War II" event series. "But the point is that everything that happens in this issue is in character when you discover the hows and whys and wheres.
>"We'll let people argue about it."

Kek. "I know I'm wrong but I'm Bendis and I don't give a shit.
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Kamala is going to be alright though, right?
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>>84454574
Are we nearing the end of Bendis? Or is this just the beginning of his true and final form?
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>spoiling your own even after all that "please don't leak things it hurts my butt" stuff on twitter today

typical Marvel
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>>84454592

>"Right now I can tell you this is the real deal," says Bendis. "I can't speak for the future, I honestly can't, who knows what will happen?"

I can! I know! He'll stay dead for a year, two or three tops, but will somehow be magically alive and the Hulk again just before the next Avengers movie comes out!

"This is the real deal." Jesus, that level of lie ought to be provoking thunderbolts out of the clear blue sky.
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>>84454554
>This is uncharted territory for us
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>>84454592
Let's all go confront the guy that turns into a giant rage monster when he gets stressed out...
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>>84454762
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idoYCVLh2qI
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>>84454595
>the circumstance surrounding his death will leave a huge scar on the superhero community

I wonder if that scar will remain once Banner inevitably gets brought back to life.
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They already gave this away in the covers.
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>>84454592
>Ulysses hiding behind Karnak
His timid shenanigans are kinda cute
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>>84454554
>>Hulk smashed!
>>Marvel Comics killed off the character's human alter ego, Dr. Bruce Banner

Oh my god, how many months until he's brought back to life?
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>“This is uncharted territory for us,”

>“Only two things are for certain: it will take a long, long time for our heroes to come to terms with his loss, and the circumstance surrounding his death will leave a huge scar on the superhero community.”

yes I'm sure NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME AGAIN for real this time
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>>84454774
>I know I'm wrong but I'm Bendis and I don't give a shit.
Maybe if we are lucky normies will pick up on that to
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>>84454554
He'll be back in time for Thor: Ragnarok.
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>>84454775
She has to go back.
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>>84454683
Only Bobbi can shit on him for shitting on her for killing her rapist.

Maybe if Banner had raped Hawkeye....
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But that doesn't work, giving Banner fatal damage MAKES him Hulk out.
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>>84454828
Don't be ridiculous, he won't be gone THAT long
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>>84454554
>This is uncharted territory for us
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Does anyone care? Does anyone really care about this even at all?
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>>84454775
her hair is short and ugly now
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>>84454554
Man me making the switch to DC really has paid off. Fuck Marvel seriously.
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>>84454572
YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY
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>>84454554
>Wasn't Brevoort just complaining on Twitter earlier about news sites spoiling events and reveals? Isn't he in a position of power to prevent such things from happening, or at least to suggest against giving exclusives to the NY Daily News and other rags?
All jokes aside, Marvel probably noticed the leaked pic and lifted the embargo on reviews, interviews, etc and stuff.

DC did the exact same thing with Rebirth. Leaked pictures showed up on reddit, got removed, but people were already talking about it here, on cbr, etc. Few hours later and dc just said fuck it and allowed reviews, and not long later, interviews with Johns were up.
Then the issue actually came out.

They probably didn't want another Marvel Nower leaks situation on their hands. At least with an interview being up not long after a leak, more attention goes towards the interview and they can easily spin it in their favor or make it seem favorable.
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>>84454853
>Does anybody even care about one of Marvel's most iconic characters.
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>>84454848
it comes out next year
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>>84454554
>>This is uncharted territory for us
And Silk is the first Asian Superhero.
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us
There are a surprising amount Uncharted reaction images
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>>84454877

that's exactly what it is.
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>>84454891
It comes out next November

you really think they'll leave Banner dead for 16 whole months?
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>>84454859
short hair a best
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>>84454554
>This is uncharted territory for us
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So with hulk slaying arrows (+5 for Banners I guess) and Thanos slaying missiles (-5 Strength for She-Hulk), do you think people are going to start popping out character killing weapons that is not only an arrow but also a missile designed to take out uh....I don't fucking know, the Beyonder?
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CBR mods just deleted my thread on the article. Kek.
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>>84454554
>Wasn't Brevoort just complaining on Twitter earlier about news sites spoiling events and reveals?

The complaints were never about spoiling the story. They were about leaks screwing with their paid exclusives.
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>>84454606
Theres like dozens of spider-men, two wolverines, theres two caps, two thors, there were multiple she hulks but who knows what happened to the other one.
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So Carol, Ulysses and Hawkeye successfully stop another disaster. Looking pretty bleak for Tony's side.
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>>84454905
yes? he will come back at the end of the event 2 events from now
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>>84454919
Doom made a bomb, didn't work because it detonated early.
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>>84454554
Haven't they tried to kill Banner before and he just gets better?
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>>84454936
>implying they can't pop out two more events by January
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>>84454924
Which ones besides Peter and Miles? I thought the other spidermen all got their own personas eventually.

Like how there have been a couple of kid flashes but they grew into Main Flash and Impulse and stuff like that.
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Okay, so now CBR mods are deleting every mention of it from all threads. Holy fuck.
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>>84454592
>brought Kamala and Maria hill to a hulk fight
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>>84454892
Wait did they auctualy try to claim that
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>>84454554
>Uncharted territory for us
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>>84454554
>there are still people that read cuckvel trash
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>>84454958
This time he's been de-gammafied, meaning he can't Hulk out to save himself.

Why the fuck they're trying to kill him I don't know.
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>>84454958
he has no hulk
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>>84454978
Post on leddit for sweet normie tears.
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>>84454991
Kamala is a big girl
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>>84454592
>hulk is going to kill every superhero
>bring every superhero to stop him
>this won't backfire at all
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Another fridged hero. Maybe he'll get to sent to Hel and we'll have a nice crossover with him and Thor sometime next year before the movie hits.
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>>84454919
Dc has a weapon specifically designed designed to kill immortals

Only good thing to come out of Pandora's series.
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us,”
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>>84454922
>>84454978
Maybe they have an anti-spoiler policy.
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>>84454554
Another casualty of Being A Straight White Guy Disease. It's an epidemic at Marvel.
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>>84454592
>the X-Men are there
well, that's one box of the Bingo that won't be filled.

And why the X-Men are there?
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>>Uncharted
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>>84454991
To be fair you probably wouldn't be able to keep kamala away.
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>>84454922
cbr doesn't like leaks/spoilers usually

Some mods make people wait a few hours after it comes out on comixology to talk about it on threads created for preview/discussion
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>>84454991
Kamala should be alright I think, not sure why Hill is there. Do they trust Deadpool to not make Banner go Hulk if he actually were at that time?
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>>84454574
>>Recently, though, there has been a new Hulk — whose alter ego is a Korean-American teen genius named Amadeus Cho.
>>He's part of Marvel's push to add much-needed diversity to the four-color panel world of comic books. Thor is now a woman; the black hero Falcon is now fighting crime as the red, white and blue garbed Captain America.

and this right here folks is why i well never spend money on anything marvel again and never read another marvel comic
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>>84454592
>most of the people on this page have died and come back already
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>>84455003
I forget if they were, or if they were letting the mistake slip without correcting anybody.

>>84455040
Camouflage, obviously. X-Cancer blended against cancer.
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>Marvel fans are now upset at all the gimmicks like relaunches and events.
>Marvel makes gimmick of publicizing the occurrence of an event in major media outlets before people can even read the comic.
Marvel: Fuck these fans! Let's try to get new ones with these announcements!
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>>84455040
I really hope we get a bingo it would hurt to come so fucking close.
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>>84454592
why is spider-man wearing the bottom half of shocker's costume?
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>>84454554
>Bitches up a storm about Bleeding Cool spoiling their future stories via solicits scans
>Spoils their current event themselves via high quality images and interviews

WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK
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>>84454592
at least Nightcrawler was drawn in a corner away from the other heroes doubting on the morality on this issue.
He joined Magneto's side because he disaproves of uding Ulysses. Perhaps after seeing this.
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>>84454976
Not counting the ones in Web Warriors or symbiotes?
Julia, Jessica, Silk, Blood Spider, Tarantula, and Miguel come to mind.
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>>84455037
I think it's creeping into just being a straight adult male
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>>84454592
I like pages like these
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>>84454554

Oh is this going to pave the way for Marvel to introduce the new female-to-male Chinese Irish mulato Trans Hulk? It's about time..

I seriously fucking think Marvel is going to explain all this away via FF Reed Kids being left alone to create a real-life "It's a small-world". Next time let them imagine progressive multi-cultural hand holding via a crayon box and some printer paper. Not mah 616!
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somebody in actual news has to write a piece on how soulless and exploitative comics are

it feels like people actually don't know this given how readily they'll report MAJOR CHARACTER DYING
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>>84455104
First they came for the straight white adult males and I did not speak up.
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>>84454683
>HULK IS THE WORST, KILLS INNOCENTS
Never happened without an asterisk
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>>84454554
>Banner had recently given him the special arrow and asked for a mercy killing in case of disaster.
I wanna laugh, but still, this is the most fitting reaction I could find
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So... do the super heroes just not talk to each other anymore at all? I mean, Cho and company found that Bruce was completely gamma free. Pretty sure that would have gone a long way towards making Clint think if he should or shouldn't give Banner the Skyrim special.
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>>84455112
>show up at your doorstep with an army of super powered fighters and foot soldiers
>"we just want to help"
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>>84455084
dude the bingo is already won, there are at least two rows already full with the confirmed things.
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>>84455040

that is the Storm House Nigger team, the real X-Men are the Magneto team.
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>>84455104
Eventually they will have to invent new minority's to ditch the old characters for.
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>>84455063
Kamala's power between her solo and the avengers is almost night and day but her durability is still shitty in both books.
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>>84455122
Hulk is currently the Korean Amadeus Cho...
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>>84454554
This is why I dislike comic books. Marvel kills off a legacy character of Bruce Banner, not the Hulk as they have Cho, to push a meaningless story saga for Civil War 2. Bruce getting killed by an anti-hulk arrow is a pointless death. All fans know that the death will be retconned around the time the next movie is released. So why kill Bruce? Is it to piss off fans? I'm upset, but not in a manner which makes me want to spend money to read the issue as Civil War 2 has been terrible.

Dammit Marvel, this is why the only books of yours I purchase is Moon Knight.
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>>84455073
Kurt
Piotr
Logan
Deadpool
Vision
Steve
Tony
Karnak
Peter if you count identity death

Has Carol died? I know she's been mindwiped like 3 times already.
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>people care about Banner dying
No one cares about Clint being shat on again.
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>>84455073
Somebody should do a count of just how many of them have died
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>>84455103
Aren't half of those spider-womans? Blood Spider is as much of a spiderman as Professor Zoom is Flash.
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>>84455149
As you can see it is standard protocol. They probably do the same thing in Vision.
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>>84454554
I notice that we've stopped using Spoiler boxes all together nowadays...

For God's sake people, here's how you do it: .Hawkeye murders Tony Stark, he is survived by his A.I. .
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>>84455126
>implying anyone actually cares
Face it anon no one gives a shit about your colorful picture books.
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us,”
knee slapping keks
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>>84455126
One day
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>>84454592
when did Beast stop being a cat? Bendis run?
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>>84454841
it's a special arrow that bruce made tho
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>>84455173
Death doesn't mean shit in comics, manga, anime, cartoons, TV, movies, and books.

The only time death means anything is in real-life.

Fuck this gay world for not being fictional!
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>>84454554
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>>84455214
Yes
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>>84455214
Beginning yeah.
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>>84455013
he has no grace
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us,”
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Wait when did Banner get his Hulk back?
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>>84455261
I don't think he did.
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Holy fuck.

This isn't gonna stop until someone murders Benis, Sloot, and Quesadilla, is it?
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>>84455137
>Anti-Hulk Arrows
>Anti-Thanos Missles
What's next?
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us,”
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>>84455153
it's called inhumans m8
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>>84454574
>"Fans may be outraged, and there are probably ‘Hawkeye’ writers who I'm very good friends with who will also be offended," said Brian Michael Bendis, the writer of the "Civil War II" event series. "But the point is that everything that happens in this issue is in character when you discover the hows and whys and wheres.
He can't keep getting away with this
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>>84455122

I know, but imagine a fat curly red head with chinese face.A red headed chinese Pat, if you will. Ooooh my gawd .. mmm can you imagine how progressive that would be be? So hot diverse ..rock hard diversity boner.
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>>84455281
Anti Void arrows
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>>84455272
I'll do it.

I'll even use an arrow to do it.
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>>84455153
What do you think's happening at the moment?
Eighty years ago the Left was about helping the working classes.
Thirty years ago the Left was about helping gays and blacks.
Now the Left is about helping trannies and muzzies.
One by one they will become not oppressed enough for the Left to idolise (and fetishise). The Clinton-era derailment of black America's transition into a high-trust culture has helped them in the eyes of the Left, but sooner or later they too will be ritually thrown under the bus for the crime of not being trendy victims.
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>>84455104
Yep only females are safe
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>>84454592
>tiny Lockjaw
The smallest he is billed at is five feet at the shoulder. He should be almost as tall as Karnak.
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>>84454575
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>>84455173
I mean Peter literally died in the Other, and that's sort of semi-canon. Kaine got the same treatment when he "died" and Morlun showed up for Spider-Verse.
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>>84455281
Anti-Anti-Man Antimatter
I was going to say Anti-Antivenom Antivenom but well, you know
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>>84455281
Anti-Dormammu bullets
Anti-Galactus spray
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>>84455323
they aren't safe from taking a missile to the tits
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>>84455273
more like the /co/ asspain he causes

this board is slowly turning into 'something's wrong, blame Bendis'
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>>84455214
beast isn't in there
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>>84454683
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>>84455281
anti-galactus spear
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>>84455281
I think Emma Frost has been shattered by Anti Emma Frost Diamond bullets shot to the only place of her body in which she has an imperfection, or something like that.
But that was many eyars ago.
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>>84455323
>>84455323
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>>84455281
Anti-Antiweapons rock
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>>84455367
Pretty sure he was joking, anon.
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>>84454574

>killed Hulk
>Hulk literally gets shot as banner on a daily basis
>NOW HE'S DEAD

wat
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>>84455347
Ah but it was never intended for shulk so it doesent count you see.
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>>84455349
he is behind Ulysses and next to Female Thor.
Unless you work for Marvel and you are spoiling us that he is really Dark Beast or something like that.
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>>84455295
He can, I've seen people unabashedly say they'll forgive Bendis anything due to USM getting them into comics or whatever.
They're that thoroughly Stockholm'd.
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>>84455159
fox news and all these shitty TV media outlets are all too keen to go CAPTAIN AMERICA DYING WOW HOLY SHIT but never once have i seen "...but this happens all the time, and it won't last longer than a month"

shit is cancer
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>>84454592
Bendis loves to bring every superhero he can think of to these things, but Black Bolt has yet to show up.
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>>84455270
How does nobody know that then?
Tony was there when he got De-Hulked wasn't he?
>>84454592
Wait is that the Destroyer Armor behind Karnak?
>>84455365
Nah /co/ is asspained by Bendis or atleast bitterly numb.
And rightfully so.
>Somethngs wrong blame bendis
That'd be funny if Bendis wasn't constantly to blame for his utter lack of quality.
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>>84455381
Poe's law.
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>>84455323
Anon....
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>>84455112
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>>84455394
wow
i'm really an idiot aren't i
or maybe it's the artist's fault because WOW does that not look like beast
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>>84455367
I don't understand what she's saying. It's not Tony's future? Yes it is. It's everyone's future, and from we've seen so far it should definitely not be left in Carol's hands.
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>>84455413
>How does nobody know that then?
Because bendis does not pay attention to what's happening with the characters he uses.
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>DC's current promotion is to make fans happy.
>Marvel's current is to ragefuck their fans.
I know /co/ loves to go on about hypercrisis and how both companies are so polar opposites of each other (square symbol vs circular symbol, constructed universe vs organic universe, etc.), but I'm absolutely shocked how it's true in this case.
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>>84454554
>can't make movies about hulk
>kill him

Somebody just burn Marvel HQ to the ground. Please.
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>>84455367
She's in a coma. Said so in the prologue of CW#2
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>>84455028
Morrison had something like that in Multiversity too. Each of the Vandal Savage expies has a chunk of the rock that made them immortal, and they keep it with them to use against other immortals or for suicide if they get tired of living.
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>>84455392
I thought that if Bruce was shot, he would automatically transform into the Hulk to save himself?
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>>84455146
that's just Bendis being a fucking hack
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>>84455008
Because that guy had a vision the Hulk kills them all.

So of course they kill Banner and someone else will turn into hulk.
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>>84455463
Well I didn't read it. And I won't
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us,” Marvel Editor in Chief Axel Alonso told the Daily News.

Marvel has never killed off a major character for shock value in an event comic before.
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BUT I LIKE THE HULK AND WANT TO SEE MORE OF HIM NOT LESS

THERE'S BARELY ANY HULK AS IT IS AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT SOME KOREAN FAGGOT
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>>84455146
Pak and Ewing are running Bendis damage control
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I think Marvel needs to change their name from 'The House of Ideas' to 'Kill And Cuck All The CIS'
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Not that I care about CW, but THE ISSUE ISN'T EVEN OUT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS and the put this shit out on major outlets.
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>>84454554

I'm so beyond caring that I'm shocked by my own apathy
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>>84455486
The media infulunces the minds of the people anon
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>>84454554
But how is it Scarlet Witch's fault, Bendis? How?
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>in "Civil War II" #3, out Wednesday

So Marvel just spoiled the issue before it was even released?
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>>84455522
But they can't make Hulk solo movies.
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>>84455281
>Anti-DC Movies
>Anti-Fun Comics
>Anti-White Genocide
the future is now
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>>84455527
see
>>84454877
A pic leaked so they probably want to control the news surrounding it, so yes, they went ahead and drew more attention to their own spoilers.
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>>84455394
but anon, remember Dark Beast died after programming Sentinels to attack the X-Men so people could hate them more.

Despite the attack being in a deserted island

Despite being SHIELD the ones who provoked it

All this because he hated Scott Summers more than anyone in the world

Despite them never interacting ever before that

And you have to remember that story anon because you can be sure Bendis won't remember it

Even though he was the one who wrote it.
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>>84454786
Not even before the next Avengers movie. Thor 3 will come out in 2017 and I guarantee Whor is gonna get shoved by then.

Or they are gonna do a Ragnarok 2 with her and that will somehow tie with the Hulk's return.
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>>84455514
Who the fuck even cares? People don't give a shit about comic books. It doesn't matter at all.
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>>84455482
Don't blame you.
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>>84455564
>Even though he was the one who wrote it.
I honestly wonder if he has some sort of medical condition that fucks his memory
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>>84455460
sometimes they're similar too (DC redoes Death of Superman and Marvel redoes Clone Saga, Dickbats and BuckyCap, etc)
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>>84455564

I hope the X-Men Inhuman conflict ends with Beast possesed by Sublime being guilty of modifying the mists, something like that.

I wonder what will happen to Ulysses when this event is over. Either dead, or disappears like Hope summers.
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>>84455460
Reminder that the Marvel universe in Multiversity is a dead universe ruled over by the Gentry.
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Up coming event:. Marvel heros must find the Fantastic Four family and stop them from ruining everything. Franklin turns into a Void Onslaught Professor X Phoenix Force Apocalypse Cyclo-verine . At the climax Punisher is killed saying Fantastic Four's children. Deadpool swears an oath to carry on Frank's mission. Fin
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>>84454554
>>84454574
>>84454592

Golly, fellow Marvel fans! This just amazing!
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>>84455272
Brevoort too. Holy fuck, Waid is SJW as fuck but make that fucker EIC already.
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>>84455607
I think only Ultimate was fully destroyed. They might have saved 616.
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>>84455582
Cho is Hulk like Whor is Thor
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>>84454978

CBR is cancer and all the users on there do is bitch and complain with massive senses of entitlement
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>>84455133
> HULK IS NOT WHITE

> HULK IS NOT STRAIGHT
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>people still pay for Marvel to shit in their mouths
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>>84455505
Probably released because it was already leaked online. It's officially out in an hour anyway.
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>>84455607
Ultimate Marvel, anon, the normal Marvel one was the one that survived because all the heroes united to fight a coming threat, rather than fight each other.
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>>84454815
Ulysses is the only good thing to come out of this event. Have you seen his event comic? It's basically bullying porn.
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>>84455632
except Chulk is actually entertaining and likeable
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>>84455643

would /co/ survive if the sons of the serpent showed up in a modern comic
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>>84454592
this art is very good, but Medusa looks too young and cute imo.
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>>84455574
>hurr durr nobody cares

Honestly it's a "Why the fuck not?" sort of situation. Nobody's mentioned it yet, and they don't deserve the press of KILLING OFF FUCKING SPIDER-MAN HOLY SHIT, they don't deserve the cooler talk, they don't deserve any of it. You KNOW there are people that're gonna go full retard and just buy the issue that they're apparently dying in just to keep updated.

Name one literal thing wrong with some city paper doing an online article about the exploitative advertising of comic culture.
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>>84455684
Didn't they already show up in Captain Falcon's run?
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WHY?!
WHY?
ENOUGH!!
WHY DOES HE STILL HAVE A JOB!?
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>>84455643

It's kinda funny. Banner would work fine as a beta SJW loser but Hulk would literally react like that.

HULK NOT WHITE, HULK GREEN! RAAAAGGGGGGH! HULK SMASH FAT COLORBLIND WOMAN!
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>>84455700

yeah i think they were the guys shooting people coming across the border and foxnews got mad
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>>84454554
But mah Maestro?!
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>>84455643
But anon, Hulk isn't a sissy boy.
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>>84455705
He's good at making shit that turns heads even if it's not good writing.
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>>84455323
Then why do my Marvel waifus keep dying?
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us,”
I'll just leave this here:
http://comicsalliance.com/angry-comic-book-fans-sales/
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>>84455460
>DC's current promotion is to make fans happy.
>Marvel's current is to ragefuck their fans.
>DC still can't win
Fuck this gay Earth.
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>>84454673
I would love if they were self conscious enough to announce a Invisible Hulk book with Banner running around the Microverse. Maybe he runs into a brain back-up of Hank Pym in an Ultron Bot and has an epic broventure.
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>>84455699
I blame all of this shit on the Death of Superman. I wasn't even a kid who liked comics at the time and even I knew Superman's death was fake. The reporters probably knew it too but they all reported it as if Superman was really being killed off and it became the comics event that broke into the mainstream media.

Ever since then comics people know the only thing that will get them mainstream media coverage is a "death." Recently they can also get coverage for "diversity" but that may not last. Ridiculous deaths will break into the MSM and be read by people who.... won't buy their comics anyway. But they keep hoping.
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>>84455763
CW2 is Convergence, NOW is DCYou

Give it time
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TIME ARROW


TIME ARROW


TIME ARROW
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>>84455783
Except convergence was good
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>>84455745
There are regular news articles both online and on television about shit much, much less news-y than "comics are actually very exploitative at their core, isn't that interesting?" Like say, I dunno.

"Captain America's actually a nazi!" Don't act like that wasn't in casual conversation for ages for some reason.
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>>84455806
only the tie-ins
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>>84455785
At least DC makes me happy on a more regular basis.
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>>84455632

Except AZN HULK isn't about beating the MUH SOGGY KNEES out of the big, evil penis man like some self-insert tumblrina fanfic character.

Maybe Cho's annoying sister veers into that territory slightly, but not to the extent of Whor.
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>>84455694
It would be easy if they gave her an official age. Inhumans live a long ass time so the aging process would be unclear, But they have taken to making Karnak look really old.
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So? He'll be back in a matter of months. None of this shit ever matters
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>>84455785
Depends. Some ideas are ok when executed with mediocrity (DC), others need to win the reader over or they're just worthless (Marvel)
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>Thinking that Clint killing Bruce amounts to "news."
>Thinking that it's in any way more impactful or shocking than Peter Parker unmasking on live TV in the original Civil War.

Bendis honestly makes Millar look like a genius.

>>84455272
Quesadilla isn't even the EiC any more, jackass, it's Axel Alonso. At least he brought in talented writers and artists.
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>>84454913
>death of cap
They actually ended Indestructible Hulk with him taking a gun shot to the head ( which then lead to his Doc Green persona in the inevitable relaunch).
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>>84455411
Black Bolt is being written out anon. People talk about all Cyclops but BB has been removed from the Inhumans books and left out of the event that concerns Inhumans.
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>>84455739
>LETS DRAG OUR NAME AND CHARCTERS NAME THROUGH THE DIRT!
>PEOPLE LOVE THIS!

WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!?
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>>84455830
I don't write for a paper, you dunce. I'm not saying someone should write a tell-all expose that will finally open the eyes of the sheeple, I'm just saying it'd be nice to see someone mention the history of death and shock value in comics alongside one of these "shocking thing happens in comic books" articles.
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I mean I'm not angry. Why would I be? I haven't read a Hulk book in like 4 years because there hasn't been a good one in a while.

But I mean, does anyone care? Is anyone so outraged and upset that they're going to rush to the store to buy an issue to rip each tear-stained page in half? It's stupid and creatively bankrupt, but I just don't care anymore.
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>>84455848
>Bendis honestly makes Millar look like a genius.
And considering CW1 was a mistake that is a great accomplishment
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>>84455885
I mean yeah, "I don't care anymore" is the reaction most people have towards wacky marvel twists. It's frustrating because the reason they exist isn't because of marvel, it's because people can and still will give marvel insane boosts in revenue and press every time they do this. Even if the individual has learned, the whole hasn't, and that means we're stuck with it forever. We'll get short bursts of decent camic books, and then when funds are running dry, everything will become terrible again.
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It's really jarring to check /co/ after taking a break from reading Worm and being confronted with how absolutely atrocious cape comics are yet again.
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>tfw you care so little that the only thing you feel is how surprised you are at how little you care
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>>84455327
Wasn't Hulk an Avenger for that single first issue alone before not being one for decades? His legacy in that team is really overblown by casuals, especially moviefags.
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>>84455281
Ex-X
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>>84455949

He stuck around for the first 2 issues.
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>>84455932
It looks like it actually is offhandedly mentioned here.
>>84454592
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>>84455411
BB's getting mad pussy at his bar
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>>84455926
But it's only marvel dc is good again
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>>84454683

Shut the fuck up Bendis
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>>84455806
>convergence
>good
This right here is why people enjoy seeing DC fail.
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>>84455885
>>84455885
I'm more angry by the fact that Marvel just does not care anymore like why what the fuck happened
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>>84454554
>Wasn't Brevoort just complaining on Twitter earlier about news sites spoiling events and reveals?
Trying to drum up hype. There's going to be at least one idiot who's going to walk into the store this week to buy "the comic where Hulk dies." If Marvel fans were smart and wanted more than just shock value comics, they'd pretend nothing happened tomorrow.
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Anon you read comics?? Are you one of the social justice activists or something? Nah it's cool I have a gay uncle, and my mom is a vegetarian.
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>>84455608
I'm at a loss for words.
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>>84455687

Hypercrisis side. You stupid fuck.
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>>84455988
1) They got so successful that they don't even need to try
2) All the writers found out that Marvel paid jack shit.
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>>84454991

>Maria Hill still has a job
>>
Why are people mad?

We still have a Hulk
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>>84454991
>>84456036
>implying they didn't bring Maria Hill in the hopes that Hulk would kill her and put her out of their misery
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>>84454554

>“This is uncharted territory for us,”
>Cap has died
>Spidey has died
>Ant-Man has died
>Gwen Stacey has died
>Black Widow has died
>Namor has died
>Captain Marvel has died
>Nova has died
>Changeling has died
>Xavier has died
>Cyclops has died
>Silver surfer has died
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deceased_American_comic_book_characters#Marvel_Comics

I mean jesus didn't Spider-man just come back from being dead? Do they really need to lie to their readers like this?
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>>84455112
>fantastic four
>six x-men fully visible on panel, front and center
>namor
>inhumans more to the side
oh how the times change.
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>>84456050
>Why are people mad?
Why else would they come here?
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>>84456050
>another SHOCKING death
>it'll probably be undo when the Thor movie starring Hulk comes out
>Clint being shat on again yet
>it's written by Bendis

I'm mad at how little fucks marvel gives yet this will sell a lot
In fact this issue will probably sell more than #2 thanks to marketing the death
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>Peter is a dip in his crazy high merchandise sales away from from being killed and replaced by Miles
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>>84455149
>they all get into their super hero pose.
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>>84456112

Not even the same anon form the beginning. But you gotta be a huge fucking stupid cunt not to get what the word "Hypercrisis" means. You stupid cunt.
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>>84455885
I can't really see anyone getting angry for real over this for the same reason, but if the Captain America being a hydra agent shitstorm is any indication people will get worked up for reasons unrelated to the actual comic or comic book industry practices.
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>>84456050

People don't give a shit that the Hulk is dead Anon. People care that Bruce Banner is dead.

That's like someone killing that Bernie Sanders guy and saying "It's okay, we still have Trump running for president"
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>>84454554
Okay did someone screencap those posts where some people on /co/ guessed that Hawkeye killed Hulk?

I know someone posted this variant as evidence and it was long before Rich started that rumor that Mary Jane would get killed off.
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>>84455463

Can you provide the image please?
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>>84454592
>Avengers vs X-Men
>Cap wants to talk to Cyclops
>Brings Hulk

>Cap wants to talk to Iron Man
>Brings Thor

It's not Cap this time, but why do they do this?
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>>84455949
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>>84455949
I think founding the Avengers makes him important, though I agree the movie fag journalists exaggerate that importance.
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>>84456050
>>84456078
I like Chulk but this is just wrong.
When Chulk was first announced they addressed the worry of Banner being tossed to the wayside directly. I remember Pak saying that Banner would go through his own new story and his character would develop post-Hulk. And now they've just killed him off.
I'm not angry, and I don't think Pak had any idea this would happen, but this is just dumb. It's just such a disrespect for their own fucking characters on (I believe) the part of the editors and a few powerful writers despite the good intentions of the actually quality creators.
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>>84454554
Real question:
Who hasn't been killed in the main line Marvel Universe?
At this point Iron man, Thor, Captain America, Ant-man, Wasp, Hawkeye, Vision, and now Hulk.
I mean fuck sakes why are they constantly pulling this shit. Even DC has the shame and decency to put some generous time between it's "earth shaking death!" Bullshit. Why is Marvel just killing it's heroes that we all know can't stay dead over and over again?
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>>84455068
If I read anything with Marvel comics, I'll make sure to at least pirate it and read it for free.

I ain't giving them jack shit.
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>>84455885
It's less about this specific death and more about Marvel and their lack of talent.
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>>84456082
Marvel readers are literally that stupid
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>>84456171
That is how all the "nice chats" go.
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>>84454926
Don't you mean carol, ulysses and hawkeye successfully pulled off a murder
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>>84455081
They are just desperate now. For what ever reason they are just trying to throw any PR out there in hopes people will buy the books. It's like they fear something will happen if this event doesn't take off.

Maybe the might God Mouse needs scarifies and his eyes are wondering over at the higher ups in Marvel.
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>She-Hulk in in coma
>Hulk dead

suspicious. Smells like movie synergy
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>>84456159
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/83420992/
have the entire thread
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>>84456190

Because ever since Marvel railroaded its loyal fans for the sake of progression it gets a solid 80% of its advertisement exploiting movie fags with clickbait articles about who they kill off in the next ground breaking issue.

This shit will be all over Facebook soon enough and people will be acting like no one has ever done this before.

Unrelated; I would really like to know what makes this arrow Anti-Hulk because if its something as stupid as "Gamma-Blocking radiation" or something it kind of puts to rest all of the VS Hulk bullshit.
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>>84456109
>>84456153
>>84456188

Okay so Bruce Banner is dead and you're upset?

That's what's meant to happen, you're MEANT to get a reaction out of this, and by judging this thread the writer did a damn good job

>>84456091
>>84456078
Is /co/ full of /pol/ now or something?
Why are there so many people who don't appreciate and enjoy comic books?
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>>84454898
Man, those games always make me think ADVENTURE
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>>84456191
I won't even do that because some one likely had to buy the original book to scan.
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>>84454592
So this is the exact same situation from Uncanny 600
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>>84456159
I predict a frame-up job by either Bullseye or that loser brother of his.
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>>84456271

If you know why people are getting upset why did you ask why people are getting upset? This is literally all Marvel can do to get readers these days. We're just playing to their hand so we have something to talk about.
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>>84456118
Everybody knows that's the end goal. Miles is pretty much the "real" Spiderman right now. I guarantee you that it's coming.

They'll put Miles in the original costume and then they can sell the same toys anyway; since his face is covered they'll say it doesn't matter what race he is.
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>>84454554
>>“This is uncharted territory for us,” Marvel Editor in Chief Axel Alonso told the Daily News.
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>>84455327
>Leaves in the second issue
>Doesn't join the team again for nearly 50 years

Yeah, Hulk's not a major Avenger.
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>>84456290
???
Did I miss an issue somewhere? Who died in that?
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>>84455008
>white man
>Marvel

Gee, I don't know why they'd kill Banner.
>>
Hawkeye did nothing wrong
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>>84454554
This legitimately pisses me off like no other. I could care less about all the other dumb shit Marvel's doing these days, but Bruce Banner is on of my favorite fictional characters of all times. and what? They decided to kill him off for shock value?

Fuck all of this, even though they more than likely will bring him back in some fashion.
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>>84456304
Because /co/ is full of stupid people who get angry at comics for no reason even though they aren't aimed that them, I just wanted to see if they had a good reason to be mad or not.

Turns out they don't.
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>>84456380
Brian pls
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>>84454554
>Wasn't Brevoort just complaining on Twitter earlier about news sites spoiling events and reveals? Isn't he in a position of power to prevent such things from happening, or at least to suggest against giving exclusives to the NY Daily News and other rags?
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>>84456359
He's been dead for a long time
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>>84455272
Can someone please take the bullet and do it for the rest of us?
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>>84455806

Even if it wasn't, at the very least, it was something DC was doing so that they'd still have comics to put out since at the time they were moving their offices somewhere else.

Marvel doesn't even fucking have that sorta excuse for their own bullshit.
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>>84456232
Two birds with one stone.
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>>84456403
>it's ok when Marvel does it

Jesus Brevoort
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>daily reminder
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>>84455806
Look I know /co/ntrarians exist in large numbers, but come on
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>>84454554
Hasn't hundreds of comics and the fucking movies already explained that sniping him while unaware of danger will just make the hulk come out and repair the massive brain damage?
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>>84456447
anti-Hulk arrow
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>>84456305
(A) --- Never gunna happen: Parker's such a lame character (as the SpOck fandom proves) that we'll never be that lucky. Plus there's a supporting cast of dozens that have no reason to exist without an OG Spidey, dumping Pete would mean dumping them all.

(B) --- They would be insane to ditch the Miles costume, it's the best thing that character has going for him. Like with Spidey's original duds they pretty much nailed it on the first try.
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us,”
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>>84456447
Bruce can't hulk out

Also anti Hulk arrow
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>>84455643
Shit, I didn't know Dillon was already drawing comics back then.
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>>84456444
>Who is War Machine
>Who is She-Hulk
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>>84454592

Is it my imagination or is that a second wolverine behind storms left sholder who should be dead while she stands next to old man logan from another dimension.
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>BRUCE BANNER
>YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY
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>>84454592
>Banner has worked tirelessly to get his life together, finally attained some modicum of peace
>The handful of people he trusts show up with a bunch of affirmative action chucklefucks and surround him
>"W-what did I do?"
>"You haven't done anything"
>"Yet"
Remind me again why we were supposed to LIKE the Inhumans? Marvel is doing about as good of a job pushing them as the WWE did with Roman Reigns.
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>>84456447
but man these are anti Hulk arrows, conveniently designed to appear just now.

do you know that the army also conveniently developed missiles designed to kill Thanos. And they can opérate in out of date armor too. Those genius army soldiers. Too bad they decided to make them public very recently, I mean surely plenty of lives would've been saved with armament like that before.
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>>84456503

Seriously is wolverine alive again and i didnt notice?
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>>84454592
>that hair
Who comes up with those retarded character designs?
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>>84456505
I mean yeah, pretty much
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>>84454592
Love how the Teen Trinity (Miles, Sam, Kamala) are paired together and clearly not cool with any of this
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>>84456522
Bruce Banner trusting the superhero community and becoming part of the event clusterfuck is one of the worst things to ever happen to the character
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Did anybody here read the last issue of Totally Awesome Hulk? It was really fucking good.
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>>84456447
S.H.I.E.L.D. recently figured out how to kill Banner with a perfect shot to a specific point in his brain.
Remember when Hulk was wearing that stupid high-tech Hulk armor? and Bruce was working for S.H.I.E.L.D.? That's what that was for.
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>>84456551
Well, there has to be a reason for them to split off and make their own superhero team with blackjack and hookers.
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>>84455935
Marvel + Events = dull side
At last, the least coveted Anti-Care Equation is unveiled. Bask before the almighty power of ehhhhhh.
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>>84455068
>MUCH NEEDED DIVERSITY
>WE TOOK OUR BLACK HERO
>TOOK AWAY HIS OWN HERO IDENTITY
>AND MADE HIM CAPTAIN AMERICA
>WAY MORE FUCKING DIVERSE,AMIRIGHT
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>>84456555

I was really hoping that after it was revealed that Chulk was the new hotness and Banner was gone, that he would legitimately go somewhere with Betty and just live life for a bit.

Instead, he gets dragged into this bullshit of an event and gets murdered so that Marvel can sell the issue based solely on the nice big press event death. Fucking hacks.
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>>84456169
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>>84456569
But Sam already has a Black Jack and a Hooker.
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>>84455763
Civil War II #1 may have topped the charts but the rest of the Top 10 of that month was dominated by DC... And events like these always have diminishing returns, especially if they spoil them the day beforehand
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>>84456619
a coma with no heartbeat lol
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>>84454554
this whole thing is gay as all fuck.
i never thought there would be an event that would make the OG Civil War look like a masterpiece in execution, but lookie here.
this whole CWII is the shittiest event ever published. literally "Meh-Who-Gives-A-Fuck".

also Carol is garbage. she should fuck off and die already.
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>>84455221
>Death doesn't mean shit in comics, manga, anime, cartoons, TV, movies, and books.
death means something in jojo
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>>84456616
It's all been downhill since he started hanging out with those losers again instead of doing his own thing in his own book

The whole all superheroes know and are ALL buds with each other thing is retarded and having the fucking Hulk do get togethers and meetings with them is no bueno

Also Chulk is shit and there's nothing to the character as the Hulk
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>>84454574
>who's played by Mark Ruffalo in the Marvel movies
Sure am glad I found out about this through a publication that feels the need to remind it's readers whose actor this character is supposed to be in the unrelated movies and not, y'know, reading the comic and being surprised.
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>>84456625
Exactly. Why do you think they're putting him in charge?
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>>84456171
Cause Cap likes to cover his basses knowing stubborn niggas gonna be stubborn niggas
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>>84455437
best Carol. the new redesign is garbage in both design and personality.
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>still no post at CBR
Goddamn I want to see my epic meltdown.
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>In a conclusion to the shenanigans of the last two days that couldn't be more perfect if we made it up, Marvel Comics has spoiled their own damn Civil War 2 shock death in the New York Daily News hours before the comic hit stores for its midnight release (which was designed, presumably, at least in part to help fans avoid spoilers). Keep in mind that Dan Slott spent the better part of the past two days ranting and raving like a lunatic about Bleeding Cool spoiling Marvel's San Diego Comic Con announcements of new series, with other Marvel fat cats like Tom Brevoort joining in to whine about it as well, only for the company to do exactly the thing they were railing against on a high profile major media site.

>At least one good thing will come from this though - many of you can save the $5 this comic costs by just reading the spoilers here.

>Apparently, Hawkeye kills Bruce Banner in front of the assembled heroes of the Marvel Universe in the middle of an argument between Iron Man and Captain Marvel. Hawkeye reveals that Banner asked him to kill him if he was going to Hulk out again, which Hawkeye could apparently tell by looking into Banner's eyes. The other heroes are all like WTF Hawkeye, but then they get distracted or something and the issue ends.

>So there you go.

>A pointless stunt death that will get undone in a year: $4.99.

>Marvel being blatantly revealed for the creatively braindead hypocrites they are: priceless.

Outhousers vs. Marvel

KEK
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>>84454754
>>84456430

How can the heroes constantly interact with her and not sense pure evil?
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>>84454554
>>84454592
>>84454574
"The futurist, gentlemen! The futurist is here! He sees all! He knows what's best for you, whether you like it or not!"
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>>84454592
Why do they all wear their masks and shit when everyone knows everyone?
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>>84456713
>outhousers shitting on marvel
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>>84456713
>which Hawkeye could apparently tell by looking into Banner's eyes.
But Bruce has been gamma-free for a while. Completely gamma-free. I fucking hate Bendis so fucking much. Any character he doesn't kill for the sake of being edgy and cool he shits on because he thinks that his take on that character is the most interesting and cool one.
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>>84456713
>internet sites finally turning on Marvel

beautiful sight
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>>84456503
>>84456537
That's x-23, she started dressing like Wolverine because...

I'll get back to you on that.
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>>84454574
>Fans may be outraged
No, just indifferent. At this point anybody that buys the bi-monthly CONTROVERSIAL OUTRAGE ISSUE from Marvel deserves the stories that they get.
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>>84456713

>Outhousers talking shit about Marvel

Is this what a paradigm shift feels like?
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I like the people who are speculating that Marvel just released the climax for a comic that isn't even out yet on a major news outlet so they could control the control the narrative, as if Marvel really had any integrity at this point. If they were really concerned about their customer base and image from this event, they easily could have waited less than a day before the issue was released as the majority of their reader base likely doesn't follow the outlets where the leak is occurring.

This isn't about integrity, this is simply about not having to pay back the news outlet they sold their exclusive to due to the leak. The same reason they're upset about the NOW(er) news that CBR, Newsarama, etc. paid for exclusives that they'll have to partially recoup due to the information that was released online days before the reveal.
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>>84456713
>Hawkeye reveals that Banner asked him to kill him if he was going to Hulk out again, which Hawkeye could apparently tell by looking into Banner's eyes. The other heroes are all like WTF Hawkeye, but then they get distracted or something and the issue ends.
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>>84454554
Isn't it impossible to kill Banner without him changing into the Hulk?
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>>84454554
I don't feel like going through a laggy wiki.

What was the horrible thing that Hulk was going to do that needed him illegally killed in advance?
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>>84456713
>Apparently, Hawkeye kills Bruce Banner in front of the assembled heroes of the Marvel Universe in the middle of an argument between Iron Man and Captain Marvel. Hawkeye reveals that Banner asked him to kill him if he was going to Hulk out again, which Hawkeye could apparently tell by looking into Banner's eyes. The other heroes are all like WTF Hawkeye, but then they get distracted or something and the issue ends.
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>>84456844
Ulysses saw a vision of Hulk going on a rampage and killing everyone.
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>>84456831
He can't hulk out right now

Which makes
>Hawkeye reveals that Banner asked him to kill him if he was going to Hulk out again, which Hawkeye could apparently tell by looking into Banner's eyes
so fucking stupid because Bendis is ignoring continuity AGAIN
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>>84456844
Medusa's boytoy had a vision of Hulk standing over the corpses of pretty much every major superhero.
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>>84456226
>Everyone has a mopey lowered head look.
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>>84456713
>Outhousers vs. Marvel
why is this a surprise? they may have the counter of DC and that, but at least 70% of their articles are against Marvel.
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>>84456831
He's no longer Hulk anymore, and the arrow was Anti-Hulk.
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>>84454592
What is up with marvel and constantly bringing every superhero and a shit ton of helicariers right on someone's doorstep?

Everytime. Are phones not a thing?
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>>84455783
So that means Marvel will have it's own Rebirth soon?
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>>84456870
Pak is being wasted on Marlel. I hope he has a book for Rebirth wave 2.
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>>84456902
They're half way there, they have most of their original characters back, alongside the legacy characters. The shittier selling ones will get cancelled
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>>84456902
Marvel has it's own Rebirth twice a year and its always for the worse.
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>>84456902
Hopefully. They only need to fail so that they can be pressured into trying again. No one expected every book to be 10/10 but their writing talent is largely piss poor and just flat out unacceptable these days.
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>>84456886

well there was a vision where Hulk kills all the heroes, so they need all the heroes there to stop him from killing them all, duh!
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>>84456713
Is this the true power of Bendis writing like shit?

Is this truly how we're supposed to get a revamp with Marvel Now? When you have the top writer of your event make this kind of non-sensical BULLSHIT??!?!?
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>>84456913
He's doing the Kamandi Challenge at least
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>>84456870
>>84456879

If he can't transform into the Hulk, then why was there a vision of the Hulk killing them?
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>>84456895
To be fair, this is based on an older poll based on the teaser spread with the two post-CW2 teams.

I assume a newer poll would have a bit more balance across the three sections.
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So how long until he's back? I give it 2 years at the absolute maximum.
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>>84456948
Ulysses is mostly wrong about his visions, especially when it tells people

Anyway Cho is Hulk now, so for all we know, he'll go on a rampage next issue
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>>84456948

because there is a Hulk currently.
its just not Banner.
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>>84455608
Better than the upcoming Civil War 3 or whatever the Hydra cap event is.
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>>84456948
Nobody ever said it was Bruce Banner
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>>84456932
Why not just send someone intangible, like Vision, and go "Bruce, look, shit's going down, everyone is kind of nervous, we know you've got some stuff going on and we think we'd all feel much safer if you just fucked off into space for a couple of months, maybe a year. Maybe go check out what them crazy Shiars are up to. You're a reasonable guy, I'm sure you understand"
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>>84456966
I don't think people really care but it would be a good return. Maybe like 18 months, that's another relaunch and event at least
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So when are we getting a lesbian black Punisher whose first comic is her killing white cops?
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>>84456481
>Parker's such a lame character
You're a special kind of stupid.
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>>84456789

Calling it now. It's a self fulfilling prophecy and the Hulk that kills everyone is Cho. He goes into a berserker rage from hearing about what they did to Banner and one of them fucking up and messing with his powers.
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>>84456950

Or it could be worse since the lineup looks fucking awful
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>>84456973
Hopefully Hydra Cap's event is something smaller like Standoff was
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How many of you people complaining have actually bought this?
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>>84456969
>>84456971
>>84456978

Kek, is Chulk a secret to the adult avengers? It'd be pretty stupid of them to kill Banner only to say "Oh wait, that Chinese kid is also the Hulk."
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>>84456545
>Social Justice Hawkeye
Can they just call him Purple Arrow or would that be too obvious?
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>>84457000
>Can't see his weiner because he's Asian
It all adds up
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>>84457017
>buying shit
>buying events
>buying shit events
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>>84457026
It's gonna be great
Bendis probably thinks he's a genius with this swerve
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>>84456555

I have to wonder how Banner could trust them after the whole Planet Hulk fiasco.

I know, that was the Illuminati that did it, but jesus, most of the guys in that group were people Banner actually trusted the most.

You'd just think at this point that he wouldn't have much trust for anyone other than like Hercules. He wouldn't ever do that shit to him.
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>>84457017

Why would I buy it when I didn't enjoy 1 and 2?
>>
I stopped reading a long time ago. Did Hank lose all of his Hulk powers? If no, how did an arrow off him? Didn't the Punisher once try to snipe the Hulk and they BSed the fact that you can't assassinate the Hulk.
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>>84457017
>bought
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>>84457026

>"Why me? Isn't there another Hulk you can be bothering right now?"
>"You're a FUCKING WHITE MALE Bruce."
>"...fair enough."
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>>84454592
>>"But the fact is you still don't have to throw a dart to find a white male character in our publishing line."

So you're doing it because of racism against whites. Thanks for confirming my suspicions you disgusting left wing shill
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>>84457017
t. Marvel intern
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>>84457017
No I read it here and I don't buy shit
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>>84456983

They also have Lockjaw right there. Just teleport him offworld somewhere if they really think he's about to become a threat and start killing everyone gathered there.
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>>84457017
It isn't out yet.

Also, when one of my favorite characters (Hawkeye) gets character assassinated in an asinine, creatively bankrupt movie synergy event, written by a writer I don't like, that you couldn't force me to read, you bet I'm going to be mad.

Besides, complaining is the best part of the hobby.
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>>84455135

Pak actually made fun of Super Math in one of the latest issues of Hulk
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>>84457026

>is Chulk a secret to the adult avengers?


and I think he is, yea?

Except for one run-in with Thor, he hasn't had much crossover with anyone else, so its safe to assume others don't realize its not Banner.

also hes Korean.
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>>84457055
Illuminati is the most retarded thing too where oops all the authority figures of the superhero world do shady secret shit behind the scenes ;) real fucking heroic figures
>>
What are the odds Doc Samson's resurrection will not be explained in the main series?
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>>84457028
>Purple Arrow
Bitchin' Van Dyke when??
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>>84455281
Anti-mutant spray aka terrigen in a can
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>>84457064
>Did Hank lose all of his Hulk powers?
>Hank
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>>84457110
>Pak originated Hulk never killing any innocents without being fucked up (asterisk)
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>>84456950
You know what? They should make another poll since all the titles leaked. I'm still not interested in the majority of them, though.
>>
Holy shit, Marvel wants SO MUCH for people to care about this flaccid, shitty event.

>we killed off She-Hulk, do you guys care yet?
>what about War Machine?
>what about Iron Man?
>what about Hulk?
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>>84457109
>my favorite characters (Hawkeye) gets character assassinated
You must have had an aneurysm when Lemire had him fold like a bad hand of cards and give those psychic kids back to Hydra, huh?
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>>84457175

They already spoiled everything anybody could care about by showing the new lineup. Why would anyone care about this pointless shit?
>>
>killing off a shit-ton of characters to shake up the status quo

Because this worked out so well in Disassembled, right guys?
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>>84454574
>an article about Hulk's death
>"so anyway did y'all hear Iron Man's a black girl now?"
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>>84457227
It also worked out well in Ultimatum...
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>>84457111
>Except for one run-in with Thor
He teamed up with Shulkie in the first arc. But I dunno if she got around to mentioning it to anyone before she took that black load to the tits.
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>>84457000
trips of truth begins lets redo wwhulk
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>>84457263
Maybe that's next year's event, World War Hulk II. And then after that, Secret Invasion II.
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>>84457000
>Calling it now
Way to pick a difficult outcome that has never been thought of before. Do you know what the next lotto numbers will be, Nostradamus?
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>>84454554
>. Banner had recently given him the special arrow and asked for a mercy killing in case of disaster.

Special Hulk killing arrow.
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>>84457252
>It also worked out well in Ultimatum...
Age of Ultron (the event not the kino) checking in!
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>>84457017
>bought
It's not even on sale yet. (Well, I guess 15 minutes ago if you're on the east coast.)
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>>84454771
Why the fuck am I laughing so hard at this.

Jesus Christ.
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cbr just allowed the spoilers to be posted so i'm looking forward to all the passive aggressiveness and apathy there too
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>>84455480
I can see this leading to Cho Hulk being the Hulk who goes on the rampage now that they killed his friend.
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>>84457292
You know, when so many other anti hulk weapons have been oh so fucking successful. Bendis' writing relies on disregarding everything and every time someone pokes a hole he goes, well it just works now. Same shit happened when people kept bringing up how many fucking future seers marvel has but Homer/Ulysses' power is so much better just because.
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>>84457292
>Special Hulk killing arrow.
No more moronic than the Special T̶h̶a̶n̶o̶s̶ She-Hulk killing missile, senpai.
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>>84457277
World War Hulk would have a modicum of potential if it was ONLY Hulk lashing out against superhero fucking shits with no ayy lmao army or buddies helping him
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>>84457111
He also met Miles and Old Man Logan
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They pulled a Xavier and killed off a big name they hadn't been using for shock value
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>>84457111
>Korean

CHINESE...OR JAPANESE?
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>>84457175
So much death, is this Ultimatum II?
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>>84457344
>just because
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>>84457350
That spread sent shivers down my spine the first time I read it.
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>>84457278
5, 10, 17, 22, 33, 48.
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>>84457130

I bet it will never be explained, and he will just be dead again.
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>>84455015
moar
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>>84457412
Was your body aching all the time?
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>>84457382
Needs more cannibalism
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>>84457256
>>84457354

forgot about those. damn, I need to either focus more or read less books, having trouble keeping track.
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>>84457449
>Was your body aching all the time?
Sometimes I wish Bendis had never been born at all!
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>actually caring about a ded character from the big two
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>>84457420
>Writes it down.
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>>84457412
Hulk vs the world could be really great

I know what I'm talking about when I say it has never been done before, where the Hulk is pissed off at the world and its heroes and wants to rampage. Hulk just fucking the shit out of all the superheroes of the world would be great if not for that Worldbreaker DBZ bullshit where if he gets too mad shit starts blowing up, fuck Pak
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>>84457420
>5, 10, 17, 22, 33, 48.
>Not: 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42
YOU HAD ONE JOB!!!
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>>84457464
I was going to say he also met (bullied) Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur but who the hell cares
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>>84457292
Fucking Bendis...
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>>84457348

That's the point, it goes to show how simple minded Bendis is when it comes to create stories, blunt as fuck!
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>>84454683
But i thought the hulk had never killed anyone?
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>>84457524
I thought it was pretty neat, desu. It's one of the reasons why I liked HOTM.
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>>84457533
IT WAS LATE AND I WAS TIRED
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>>84454554
>>84454592

Let me know if this has already been discussed. or theorized.

What are the chances that Ulysses sees CHULK killing everyone. because of what they did to Banner here?
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>>84454828
This ... at some point Disney will get pissed of that Bendis is doing everything he can to wreck their intellectual properties in the MCU right?
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>>84457670
What if he already did?
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>>84457670
That's what most people are thinking will happen to some degree.
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>>84457644
A fucking super mode for the Incredible Hulk, because 'the madder he gets the stronger he gets' is too vague, it has to be 'the madder he gets the stronger he gets and the closer he gets to worldbreaker where he radiates so much gamma the world is in danger'

Horrible stuff
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>>84454554
>“This is uncharted territory for us,” Marvel Editor in Chief Axel Alonso told the Daily News.
I can't believe Alonso had the 'balls' to say this...not even casual normies would believe something like that.
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>>84457670
Well the only problem is that everyone in the room saw the vision. I can understand Ulysses fucking up but how would people that have known banner for years not be able to tell which hulk it is?
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>>84457579
>That's the point
Oh, I agree: I just think it's silly to get worked up over this bit of stupid when the fucking FCBD issue was already full of weapons grade stupid.

Besides which, as people have been pointing out, this is literally what he ALWAYS does: he comes in and breaks some toys; ignores continuity (even his OWN fucking continuity); shits all over some characters he doesn't like (to the point that it tends to backfire and have people support them) and builds up his current waifu/OC Dougnut Steel (again to the point the people hate them for being Mary Sues).

This is, and has been, Marble's S.O.P. forever now.

Image very much related.

Source of image:
http://comicsalliance.com/angry-comic-book-fans-sales/
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Huh. On one hand; why get rid of another iconic character, when they have already handed off his powers, and MCU fans might get into the comics looking for him... now to find him dead? They'll probably not even bother to buy the issue they pick up in their LCS.

On the other; I could not give a shit at this point. Hulk is fun as fuck to play in the Lego games, and I like the character in MCU (fuck everything, Norton may be an asshole, but he made a good Banner, and I miss Arwen Ross), but have never cared for the comic incarnation at all. Just like I never cared about War Machine, in the comics or MCU. To be honestly, RDJ and the old cartoons are the only Iron Man/Tony I like too, so I don't even care that they are putting him on the bus. Wait... I didn't even like Thor til the MCU, and find his comic version dull as fuck.

In fact, why does every medium but the comics do the classic Avengers and characters better than the actual original medium? MCU, games, (classic) cartoons. Frankly, the comics warrant all the shit characters they have going at the moment.
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>>84457763
But he was complaining about spoilers today, he doesn't sound like he believes angry comic fans help sales.
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>>84455090
Why can't these things go in order?
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>>84454592
>literally killed for being a white male

God Damn it /pol/ you were right all along.
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>>84457754
Good point.
But they were dumb enough to see the Hulk killing a large group of super heroes and then confront him with a large group of super heroes. So saying they aren't at the top of their mental game might not be far off.
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>>84457787
Because every medium but the comics Avengers is just Marvel Justice League
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>>84457670
I still think he's mixing in lies with his predictions.
All in furtherance of a grand master plan he's set in motion.
What better evil mastermind could there ever be than an omniscient precog?
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>>84454592
>>"But the fact is you still don't have to throw a dart to find a white male character in our publishing line."
you still don't have to throw a dart to find a white male writer in your stable either, so can half of them fuck off, especially Bendis and Slott?
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I find it hilarious how every iconic Marvel hero just straight up fucking dies now that Mickey's the boss.

The Mouse is one cold fucking killer.
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>>84457795
>But he was complaining about spoilers today
And what would the result of that complaining be? Would it be everyone who *hadn't* already seen them hitting the googles to see what the fuzz was all about? Why, yes. Yes it would.

I bet you think Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian were shocked (SHOCKED!) to find out that their sex tapes had been "leaked"?
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So since it's been a couple of hourse, I'm going through Twitter to see if it's trending or if there's any talk and... nothing. Absolutely nothing.

The few places that are announcing the spoilers have very few comments and the standard "It's going to be undone in time for Ragnarok." talk. Seems like actual comic fans are expectantly not falling for it and casuals don't even give a fuck since it's not even trending on twitter. The only place it's at all mentioned is the New York Daily News twitter and it's split 50/50 between casual not knowing what the fuck is going on and actual readers swearing off Marvel.

It's like everyone doesn't give a fuck anymore.
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>>84455273
He literally wrote this book. Who else are we going to blame. God, I hate Bendis fans.
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I'am an asian myself so I understand and know the importance of diversity and equal rights, but I really hate what marvel is doing recently of trying so hard to fever the lgbt and sjw. All these actions of "replacing" hero to other race or gender fell so froceful and unrespect to the characters. Both white and other groups all have good and heroic people,just fevering a certain groups and race is not equality
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>>84455444
Flash still using drugs to control the venom symbiote comes to mind ... or was that Slott? Who the fuck is editing Marvel right now?
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>>84457899
They announced it pretty late at night. I bet they figured nobody would pay attention to the news until tomorrow morning, after the book hits stands.
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>>84457787
>why does every medium but the comics do the classic {Teen Titans, X-Men, Justice League, Avengers} better than the actual original medium?
It does make one wonder.
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>>84457919
The Cho Hulk book couldn't have been more respectful to Banner, almost made the whole swap look like a vacation to him now that he was free from Hulk. The most recent issue was obviously made with the knowledge that he was going to get killed so they tried to make it a nice sendoff with all his friends coming to visit while he was sick for the first time in years. But alas Bendis the moron would rather have a hero in the grave than at peace.
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>>84455463
A heart doesn't stop beating when you enter a coma though....
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>>84455348
>Pretending Bendis isn't responsible for every horrible thing including cancer, wars and zit popping videos
Get the fuck out of here, Bendis.
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>>84457017
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>>84457980
They probably changed it to a coma when people flipped out over the CW2 #1 leaks
There was an offhanded mention of Jen's biology at the end of #1 and the prologue had a mention of her being a coma. Both not requiring redrawing, reinking, and recoloring at all.
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>>84454592
>Too many white male super heroes
>Let's kill off the Hulk!

Wait... but

I thought Cho CURED Banner of his Hulk

Banner isn't even a superhero anymore, is he?

What's the point?

You're just killing off a character because he's white. A support character now, the Hulk's been passed on

I just

Why?
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>>84458011
I wish more people pirated/torrented Marvel comics, I want to see Bendis' brain break when his shitty hate-baiting doesn't work any more.
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>>84455763
>DC books today will still be readable 20 years from now

Money isn't everything
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>>84457919
>but I really hate what marvel is doing recently
>"replacing" hero to other race or gender
I got some bad news for you, senpai.
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>>84458047
But Kenan isn't replacing Clark Supes.
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>>84458030
Also, big GREEN guy... probably not killed for being white, just sayin' here...
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>>84457670
NONE
Because solicits make it clear that nobody that dies in that vision dies, and because Ulysses' powers don't cause self-fulfillinf prophecies.
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>>84458107
Shhhhh!
Let him have this.
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>>84454554

>"For all the people who seem really excited about Riri Williams, who's going to take on the role of Iron Man, there were letters over the course of the week, which all said, 'I am a long-time reader, I'm 50-something years old, why are you destroying all the characters that I love? I can't find a character that looks like me anymore,'" says (((Tom Brevoort))), Marvel's senior VP of publishing on the company’s efforts to appeal to an underrepresented audience.

>"But the fact is you still don't have to throw a dart to find a white male character in our publishing line."
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>>84457980
>A heart doesn't stop beating when you enter a coma
Nigger, have you literally never seen a single episode of a single drama on network tv??

Character "slip into a coma" and then people wangs about it and either they "code" or they wake up (almost always after a heartfelt monologue or a clip-show). And 50% of the time the "code" is just a fake out.
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>>84458047
Kenan isn't replacing Superman.
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>>84458011
>implying we shouldn't be hatereading
WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???
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>>84457968
>I bet they figured nobody would pay attention to the news until tomorrow morning

Then why bother to spoil it at all since the book will be out in a few hours?
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>>84456713
>EVEN CLICKBAIT SITES ARE SHITTING ON MARVEL

Not even the Phillies postseason is this pathetic
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>>84458046
>DC books today
>readable
Darksied War was shit, m8.
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So is anyone actually going/gone to a midnight release for Civil War II #3? Apparently the list of stores that're participating that was officially released by Marvel is completely wrong and a bunch aren't actually opening.
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>>84458107
>But Kenan isn't replacing Clark Supes.
Well, no, anon. Because Clark supes IS FUCKING DEAD!
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>>84454592
How come they called more people to take on Banner than to stop fucking Thanos?
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>>84458191
>Apparently the list of stores that're participating that was officially released by Marvel is completely wrong and a bunch aren't actually opening.
sauce because wtf
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Spic anon here

I hate this shit. I hate Miles, I hate Whor, I hate Cho, I hate this new Iron Man chick. I'm sick of this pandering.

I grew up with everything being fucking normal.

>Spider-Man

I don't mind the clones, or the symbiotes. They were neat. Kaine is still my favorite spider. Miguel is great too. Fuck Miles and his OP Venom Blast. Get rid of it.

>Iron-Man

Replaced by a black chick instead of making her something more. Fuck her. Killing War Machine pissed me off too.

>Thor
Fucking Odinson over for fucking Jane Foster. A strong woman who is unrivaled by even Odio himself. Fuck her, hope her powers kill her for good.

>Hulk

I've always loved Banner. He had issues but he had his moments too. I was happy he had peace. But they fucking kill him off. I can only hope my yellow Hulk can avenge him.

>Ms.Marvel

That's a Skrull, that's not my Carol. I refuse to believe it.

Fuck what Marvel has done. And fuck this whole SJW shit. I didn't care about ethnicity nor did I asked to be fucking represented. I just enjoyed reading good stories but cucks like Bendis and Slott are ruining everything.

Some of you anons are alright, don't head to NY tomorrow.
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>>84458204
https://twitter.com/RyanHigginsRyan/status/752993037781983232
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>>84456713
https://twitter.com/TheOuthousers/status/753066310142087170

Outhousers is ruthless
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>>84458185

A fucking Flintstones book is miles better than Marvels event. Let that sink in
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>>84458129
>For all the people who seem really excited about Riri Williams
Even people down with the Gender Bent Brownwashing are pissed it wasn't Rhoadie's nice, you dumb cunts!
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>>84458209
>I grew up with everything being fucking normal.
Seems like you didn't, because if you had you wouldn't still be reading comics.
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>>84457000
Why do so many people keep thinking Ulysses' would cause a self-fulfillinf prophecy?
That's not how his powers work, and we know for a fact that Hawkeye isn't dead post-CWII. Not to mention, if Ulysses could cause self-fulfillinf prophecies it would actually prove Tony wrong.
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>>84458185

And somehow it wasn't even half as bad as Civil War II
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>>84458185
Not the guy you're responding to, but this single page from Darkseid War has been better than CWII so far.
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>>84458209
>I grew up with everything being fucking normal.
When was this and did you read DC, because DC was doing this back in the mid 00s and 90s
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>>84458209
>trying this hard to drum up a controversy so it will make the news
Nice try whichever Marvel writer you are.
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>>84454726
Clint fan confirming we don't care anymore and just watch the world burn while eating popcorn.
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>>84458185
>throne of Atlantis
>Grayson
>manabooch flash
>fucking multiversity
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>>84458237
>t-this is Marble's Convergence!
>totally!
>a-and Nower is gonna be DCYou!
>PLEASE GOD I DON'T WANT TO BE AN ALSORAN AGAIN THIS YEAR!!!
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>>84458209
>Some of you anons are alright, don't head to NY tomorrow.

Please do it
I'll vouch for your wall pass if you do
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>>84456713
>>84458235
https://twitter.com/TheOuthousers/status/753064914445414401
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>>84458310

Yeah your green text isn't going to stop the fact the Flintstones was a better comic
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>>84458310

>Actually being this mad
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>>84458310
Not an argument

Please seek treatment for your autism
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>>84458203
>How come they called more people
Last time Jen got Blacked, anon. GREEN LIVES MATTER! NOT HULK DON'T SHOOT!
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>>84454684
I mean I'm outraged but not for the reason they assume. I'm just sick of this. All Marvel is anymore is gimmicks. They don't tell stories anymore, they write marketing stunts.
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>>84458209
>I grew up with everything being fucking normal.
You misspelled "white."
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>>84454592
>You haven't done anything
I'm pretty sure that Banner should already be in prison for his previous countless crimes. He should not be a free man.
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>>84458284
Go home, Johns. You're drunk.
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>>84458406

Post something better from Civil War II
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>>84458285
>DC was doing this back in the mid 00s and 90s
They're doing it RIGHT NOW!

The new Green Lanterns are a brown girl and a Muslim sand nigger. Because clearly this sector needed TWO MORE FUCKING LANTERNS!
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>>84458406
He's absolutely right though.
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>>84458421
>Not like Kaine

Some shit taste in here
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>>84458421
The important thing is that Pete is objectively the worst spider.
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>>84458451
>It's OK when DC does it.
Apparently those are "legacies," you see. So that doesn't count.
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>>84458437
>>84458451

>The new Green Lanterns are a brown girl and a Muslim sand nigger
Who didn't replace the extant Lanterns, which is the key difference.
If you actually read comics you'd know DC did try this minoritization. In the 90s, replacing Hal with Kyle. It was terrible and it almost killed the book, but some people have fond memories of Kyle's run.
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>>84458473

I didn't grow up with the Clone Saga. I didn't read 90s comics due to how shitty they are. He's just a fun character
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>>84458452
>Some shit taste in here
Depends: does he have Hummingbird with him?
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>>84456767
Someones gotta do it.
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>>84458533

Of course anon
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>>84458281
Well, I personally believe it because all the Hulks are down now, because of those propheses, soon Spiderman(Miles) and Tony are going to villified, the X-Men are (surprise, surprise) going to be fighting among themselves, as will the Avengers teams, and all the Inhumans and Captain Marvel (Carol) will lay down their lives to protect Ulysses.

That's pretty convenient for something random.
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>>84458202
Pre-Flashpoint Clark is here and his book is awesome
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>>84458451
>>84458437

It must be hard for you guys. Everybody waking up to Marvel being dogshit
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>>84458202

Clark Supes is married to Lois and has a son
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>>84458511
>Who didn't replace the extant Lanterns, which is the key difference.
Uh huh. So what's the excuse for the current Black Not-Robin?
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>>84458539
(looks better on her) ... or .she's female to male transsexual.
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>>84458527
>I didn't read 90s comics due to how shitty they are

DC was great. Image and Marvel (as usual) were shit though
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>>84458579
DC was pretty nice. I just couldn't bring myself to go through what Marvel was putting out at the time
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>>84458584

Damian is going to be with Nightwing, leading the Titans and hanging out with Superboy
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>>84458541
>Of course anon
Then clearly you are correct (also a scholar and a gentle-anon).
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>>84458584
Dick Grayson is still Nightwing in his ongoing.
Jason Todd is still Red Hood in his ongoing.
Tim Drake is still Red Robin in "Detective Comics".
Damian Wayne is still Robin in "Teen Titans".
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>Bendis is probably going to write Cholk and this being a major comic event it will probably sway the direction of his character for months to come
>>84458382
they're interchangeable.
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>>84458584
So nice of you to concede you were incorrect.

As for Robin, that's always been a rotating role. Damien actually did die for a while but his role wasn't instantly filled by a minority, and now he's back, he's got his own book like Dick, Tim and Jason, so there's an opening.

Any other misconceptions I can clear up for you, Marvelfriend?
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>>84458543
>all the Hulks are down now
Well, not *all* of the Hulks.
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>>84458628

Oh DC does plenty wrong. It's just that Marvel is far, far worse
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>>84458628
>no rebuttal
>posts memes and prays

Nice try, Marvel boy. Do your research next time and maybe you won't be reduced to this.
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>>84458552
>the only way my team could possibly win is if the other side defaults
he he he!
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>>84458631
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>>84458697

>My team

Do you actually have loyalty to a comic company? That's pretty pathetic anon
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>>84458237
Are you kidding?

A FREE KFC ADVERTISING COMIC WAS BETTER!
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>>84458702
I liked it.
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>>84458680
Only two are technically Robins, one of which is less of a Robin in terms of being a direct sidekick to Batman.

What I'm getting at more is that Lark's existence is not at the expense of anyone else. None of the Robins are dead.
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>>84458723
Karen was still alive when that happened.

One more for good luck?
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>>84458680
Damian is way more interesting than Tin or Dick and way better handled than Jason, though. He's also far and away the best fighter, so there's the "useful" thing gone too.
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>>84458584
>how do DCucks excuse Batman's new black side-kick?

>>84458629
>>84458639
>>84458657
>I-it doesn't count. Because: reasons.
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>>84458771

Yeah, good reasons.
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>>84458676
>posts memes and prays
>Do your research next time
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>>84458779

>He's actually a Marvel fan
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>>84458653
I warned you once he started to touch non-black "representation" characters that he'd just smear it with the same level of shit. >Here's your representation, quality not a guarantee
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>>84458771
>>84458779
>>84458819

Nicely done. Though you couldn't find a single example, you spouted the most memes, making you the victor!
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>>84454642
Indeed. He will be back in 6 months.
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Will they bring Bruce back to life in time for the new movie /co./?
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>>84458842
>I'm forced to admit defeat
>but Imma pretend like I really won this
Being a DCuck is suffering.
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>>84458863
>in time for the new movie /co./?
Is Hulk in the next flick? He was conspicuously absent from CA:CW.
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>>84458879

DC won the quality war with Rebirth
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>>84458890

He's apparently going to bro it up with Thor in Ragnarok
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>>84458908

>Movies

KEK
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>>84458011
From Marvel, I only read X-Men.
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>>84458967
very soon, there will be nothing to read,then.
which is fine
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>>84459000

But the original Doctor Fate is in that book as Doctor Fate
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>>84459000
>blah blah blah I suck a dick for living
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>>84459114
Does what? Produce better comics than marlel?
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>>84458908
>>84459000
>>84459114
You're still digging yourself a deeper hole
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>>84459156
It's OK when DC does it.
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>>84458418
He can't.
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>>84459223
It's indeed OK when DC does it.
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>>84459156
Yeah, the reason that it was OK when, say, DC published Jaime Reyes's Blue Beetle (which I'm mildly amazed hasn't been mentioned yet) was that said comic was actually really good.

I somehow doubt that the likes of Bendis have anything of that quality in them.
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>>84459258
>the reason that it was OK
>was that said comic was actually really good
Then why are they bitching about Ms Marvel? That books objectively better than any of the books that had Danvers with the title.
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>>84454574

Oh, there isn't anything about how this is written I don't hate, and I even LIKE Totally Awesome Hulk. Pak does great work on that title.
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>>84458129
>"But the fact is you still don't have to throw a dart to find a white male character in our publishing line."

>"For now." he added before smirking and rubbing his hands together
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>>84454574
> there were letters over the course of the week, which all said, 'I am a long-time reader, I'm 50-something years old, why are you destroying all the characters that I love? I can't find a character that looks like me anymore,'" says Tom Brevoort, Marvel's senior VP of publishing on the company’s efforts to appeal to an underrepresented audience.

Bull the fuck shit. Gotta love Marvel trying to spin any criticism about their replacement character policy down to "Oh the characters aren't white". Yea there are even Black readers (myself included) who are tired of these half assed replacements as if we were begging to have our favorite characters killed and/or replaced with their minority flavor of the week. Jeeze someone needs to kick Brevoort's teeth in alread
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>>84458723
>>84458584
>>84458451
>>84458437

>B-B-But DC d-does it TOO!!!

No, fuck off with that shit. DC still has ALL of their A-lister originals. They haven't gone full SJW like Marvel has.

Yes, there's a black Wally West, but the ORIGINAL Wally West is back.

Yes there's a black Power Girl, but the ORIGINAL Power Girl is still around, but is in Earth-2. Only people who don't read comics think that the original Power Girl got replaced.

Yes, there's an asian Superman, but pre-Flashpoint Superman is still around and is replacing post-flashpoint Supes. It's different than what happened with Banner. Banner got straight up replaced by an asian dude.

Yes, there's a latino Green Lantern and muslim Green Lantern now, but Hal is still around and has his own book now. It isn't even close to being similar to the time when Hal was replaced by Kyle.

You Marvelfags are just so fucking ridiculous. You fucking fall over yourselves grasping for straws trying to shit all over DC, but continually fail to do so. Keep drinking that Bendis kool aid. All of us DC fanboys will continue to enjoy Rebirth.
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>>84459562
>All of us DC fanboys will continue to enjoy being in second place. Where we belong.
June 2016 has a record breaking total number of units for the top 300 comics. Marvel sold 4,009,721 units to stores and accounted for 47% of the top 300 comics. DC had 36.61% of the total units which equates to 3,123,138 units.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/rebirth-civil-war-ii-result-in-highest-direct-market-sales-numbers-in-20-years
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>>84459114

Helena Wayne, the white one, still show up in Earth 2 book.
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>>84459223

That comic was pretty dope, the Nabu elm was divided between a shota and an older lady and the lady fucked the shota. Good recommendation for the /ss/ fans.

Also, Kent was alive enjoying the show.
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>>84459562

Wow, now if only DC could make good books like they did pre Nu52, then they'd actually be in business.

Oh wait that can't happen with their "a-listers" like Barry and Hal who have the personality of a half-thawed hot dog. That happened with their replacements, Wally and Kyle.

ohhhhh well!
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>>84458030
Obviously so they can bolster up Cho as the Hulk since he's more diverse than Banner. Seriously this diversity just so they can say they're diverse is so annoyingly shallow, especially since they're not doing it to tell good stories, they're just doing it to fill in a fucking checkbox.
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>>84459562

This is the company you think hasn't gone "full SJW like Marvel has."
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>>84456267
>Clint kills Bruce with an anti-Hulk arrow
jesus, I'm sure that anon was kidding but they nailed it
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>>84459722

I'm okay with trangenders, because i fuck plenty of them. Seriously, they're waaaay better than women. They're more fun, more faithful, more loving. Also, they know how to fuck.

There could be an transgender hero.
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>>84459613
>DC had 36.61% of the total units which equates to 3,123,138 units.
>Keep in mind that the first few issues of most Rebirth titles are completely returnable, thus Diamond reports the sales of those items at a reduced level to reflect potential returns. In the past, Diamond typically reported the items at 80% of the invoiced amount.
>Diamond potentially under-reported around 497,822 units across all of the returnable Rebirth issues from DC. The unreported returnable units would have narrowed the gap between DC and Marvel significantly
>DC had 15 of the top 20 titles
>Marvel comics shipped June 112
>DC comics shipped June 69
>http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/rebirth-civil-war-ii-result-in-highest-direct-market-sales-numbers-in-20-years
Not to mention that people actually bought DC's Rebirth titles as opposed to Marvel's Civil War 2 shit which is still sitting unsold of store shelves.
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>>84459562
>Yes, there's a black Wally West, but the ORIGINAL Wally West is back.

If they didn't piss off SJWs with his racist stereotype introduction, things would have gotten even worse than Marvel at DC and you damn well know it.
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>>84459832
Salt and Pepper 2 electric boogaloo
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>>84459891

I'm a DCfag at heart but if I had to pick between my favorite character suddenly turning black or a brand new black character replacing him, I would go for the second option any day.
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>>84459824

So Marvel had 43 more books, An event that just started and double shipped, plus Star Wars, DC had their sales under reported and only released a fourth of their launch. But Marvel only beat them by 10% (Which apparently is more than what they actually did)

That actually sounds really shit from Marvel
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