Homestuck

He, like all the trolls, were just a parody of internet personality stereotypes at the time of his inception

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Ta fill out the Zodiac Quota since he already made Vriska his waifu first and then had to do the rest

>>84346758
>whats the point of a character in a joke comic
jokes

>>84346906
>>84346912
>someone spent time thinking of all of these

>>84346906
>>84346912
I hate davekat but some of these are admittedly pretty funny.

>>84346951
they're pretty terrible

i've been traumatized

no more comics for me, just heathcliff.

>>84346960
Whats heatchcliff?

>>84346972
Hell in comic form

>>84346985
more like nirvana

>>84346985
Why do you say that?
Is it that bad?

>>84346985
Heathcliff, HEATH CLIFF, not homestuck, heathstuck, or homecliff. Heathcliff. Don't mix em up.

>>84346992
>heathstuck
is this the new fanadventure idea

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at this rate all homestuck threads will keep being purged

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i think i almost have muscle eridan's anatomy down

i don't really like the midget legs but anything smaller would require massive waist shrinkage

>>84347003
nah dude, if you really want to over exaggerate the hilarity of his proportions, settling his head lower on his neck and shortening the legs will do so perfectly

>>84347003
make feferi a nudist

>>84346990
Surreal in its badness. The kind that makes you sit quietly. Homestuck's badness is like a firery forge that churns out memes and pregnant Jade porn. Heathcliff is an endless desert of sand made of cats.

>>84347072
Heathcliff is supposedly a comic but no onecan really agree on that point

>>84346758
Hussie has a disturbing sexual attraction to being dominated by violent teenage girls. That's all.

>>84347096
Heathcliff has become an experience

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>>84347072
sunday heathcliffs literally take place in the void. if this isnt a self aware commentary i dont know what is

>>84347115
Heathcliff is like if an alien from another reality entirely with no concept of emotion heard of comics and tried to write one

>>84347140
the entrance music plays infinitely because heathcliff is always entering and leaving and neither. there are no borders to cross in the void and yet you never fully arrive

>>84347001
imagine unironically moving to hotwheels general

>>84347018
the idea was normal eridan head & legs and "SUPERPUMP" upper body but obviously there's no real way to make eridan's legs that small

unless you have his ass just randomly turn really tiny and have two tiny legs hanging down from his massive torso? i think i've seen that kinda thing in some cartoons

There are redeeming qualities to Heathcliff, unlike Homestuck post Act 5.

>>84347148
Like a final mutant decades-old form of Reginald's Bartholomew comics

they disquiet me

>>84347140
I dont get it
What was the joke here?

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>>84347168
Exactly

>>84347158
i challenge you to tell us them. i dont believe its possible to pinpoint any specific good feature in the constantly shifting sands of the infinite desert of the imagination that is heathcliff

>>84347034
good idea, i wasn't sure what to make feferi, except i was thinking maybe fat

karkat - lazy drag queen
aradia - boy??? maybe goth
tavros - lazy bishounen kinda guy, abuses the shit out of vriska, makes her miniature lusus eat away at her, gay
sollux - probably some kind of ironic 4chan poster, laser powers exaggerated
nepeta - mary sue-type insane huntress? straitjacket or something?
kanaya - probably something based on special snowflake, maybe manly lesbian
terezi - ??? yaoi fangirl type?
vriska - weak as fuck and crippled, blocked on pesterchum by everyone except tavros and eq
equius - 100d highblood, metalhead skull-nose equius
gamzee - normal, functioning troll
eridan - MUSCLE ERIDAN
feferi - fat, nudist??
doc scratch - some guy from howheels gen
lord english - caliborn with lanky limbs + extreme cunning

>>84347185
>specific good feature
There is no specific good feature. The comic, as taken together as a single work,actually defies conventions of story and character the way Homestuck only claims to.

>>84347168
i recommend that you meditate on the emotions you are currently feeling

which kid would enjoy Heathcliff?

>>84347224
Dave.
Oh wait, no, he abandoned his love of irony because he got too busy sitting on Karkat's dick.

>>84347154
>unless you have his ass just randomly turn really tiny and have two tiny legs hanging down from his massive torso

do it faggot

>>84347224
dirk and jake, for very different reasons. it would be the main thing they bond over

>>84347242
>he actually legitimately likes it
>most of his normal tastes are similar

>>84347278
Dave's a dumb nerd with shit tastes who gets beat up by dog girls

>>84347278
There would have been a great joke and some beauty for Dave if there was a few reveals that the things he UNironically likes turns out to actually be completely mystifying and subtly surreal to everyone else.

>>84347325
he was genuinely laughing at his selfies. theres no dividing line between ironic enjoyment and 'real' enjoyment as long as youre actually laughing

>>84347349

at some point ironic enjoyment becomes unironic

like i've been writing my 550k trollfic so long i actually start to enjoy it and get into the fights, it's "ironic" but only as a formality

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best ship you cant prove me wrong

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>>84347428
nah

i like that this has just become another Heathcliff thread

>>84347462
Global Rules
>3. You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?")

>>84347494
it is the hell meme that consumes all other with its slow, feline metasadism

>>84347516
forgive me I am russia

>>84347584
>admits to being a slavshit

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Aradia...no....get away from that weenie...

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>>84347608
>admits to being a newfag

>>84347642
I'm not new, I'm just calling him out.

>>84347657
that was me, too.

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>>84347657
whatever you say, newfag

>>84347673
>whatever you say, newfag to Homestuck
ftfy

>>84346758
All the trolls are shit and ruined the story.

>>84347140
I sort of want to try and transcribe this music to sheet for kicks

>>84347186
Could make her a chubby hippy or something. Feferi's hard as she doesn't seem to act like a fuchsia blood supposedly should, could try and do something with that alternatively.

What was the point of any character?

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>>84347428
it's a good ship, but it's not the best ship.
Sometimes people hook up, get together, and it's not for the long term it's just a good thing right now. I think that's what these two had. and I'm glad Equius had a best friend to talk to during this to help him sort out his feelings.

>>84347943
Do you think Aradia would be jelous of Nepeta being all touchy-feely with Equiuus?

>>84347971
Why should she get jealous of hter threesome mate?

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>>84347971
Probably not, I think it's mentioned at some point that Nepeta and Aradia were very good friends, in addition all the trolls knew how solid a moirallegiance Nep and Equius were in as opposed to anything romantic.

That or she'd just have to resort to a threesome.

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>>84347971
Would you get jealous of your boyfriend's little sister?

>>84348111
Well, to be fair, said little sister is the same size as the boyfriend and very touchy feely.

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>>84348139
and not blood-related, which feels to humans like a physical barrier yeah I know. Still, surely you have affectionate friends that you wouldn't have sex with.

>>84348111
How did Equius get past all the PRICES AND VALUES?

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>>84348245
Oh for sure, but I could see why a lady could feel a bit jealous.

>>84347460
'rails dont pail, sorry
>>84347428
erisol was better.
>>84348454
please dont.....

>>84348454
waste of time

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>>84348377
pretty sure Aradia would be calm about it

>>84348454
Mage of void

>>84348454
Meme of Meme

>>84348454
page of rage. hes got all the story/logic breaking powers of rage heros and hes weak as fuck and apparently devoid of his aspect until hes pushed TOO FAR at which point he fucking destroys you.

im iffy on the page thing, actually, but rage is definitely him.

>>84348454
Mage of Time

>>84346758
At first he was more or less a joke jerkass.
Tavros got fleshed out a lot when Vriska was introduced, but by then he was already been doomed to be a satellite character to her.
He was a woobie, but also sort of good-hearted and brave, and then he died so Vriska could feel bad about it when talking to John.

Bringing him back as a ghost was probably the ONLY good use of the dream bubbles in the whole comic. Flying away from Vriska gave him better closure than literally 90% of the cast.
It was kind of heartwarming and I feel like it'd have been a great lesson - you don't need to humiliate or hurt your abuser, you just need to GET THE FUCK AWAY and live a happy fulfilling life.

But then Hussie couldn't leave even (Tavros) untouched and had to make him come back, fake-humiliate Vriska, bow down to Meenah for an obscure reason that probably boils down to "lol look at him being silly and embarrassing himself".

Since it didn't ENTIRELY ruin Tavros, Hussie had to create another version of him that he could actually mess up permanently, so he could get off to his gross femdom kinks. The story quickly swept the abomination under the rug and pretended it didn't exist.

After that, Vriska led the army, killed LE, and creamed her pants while (Tavros) stood in the background wearing the wrong outfit. This concluded the most disastrous finale in the history of webcomics.

There was no point, as Homestuck's new motto goes. Thanks for playing.

>>84348873
probably prince of rage since he kills negative emotion in himself and others (with jokes!), and kills the murder kid with his reality breaking rage powers when he actually gets mad

>>84348454
>Deadly joke character
>Will fuck you up
>Something something time travel/resets
>Invites the destruction of annihilation (or whatever the Genocide ending is)
>Literal meme

Bard of Time, no question.

>>84349048
sans doesnt do time travel or resets

Why did Aradia die so many times? What was the point?

homestuck has made me hate any sort of media where it's suddenly revealed that there's a higher power behind the main antagonist

>>84349126
it hot to think about her being in pain

>>84349132
>suddenly
im not gonna argue that lord english was handled well, but he was a factor in the comic for as long as jack was

Why didn't Tavros just shoot Vriska?

Why is S:Cascade the best part of the comic?

>>84349257
sOME OF, uHHH, yOU GUYS ARE ALRIGHT, dONT PLAY FLARP TOMORROW,

>>84349343
because of your nostalgia

>>84349343
Descend was better.

>>84346758
He was meant to be an awkward character who often missed the context of what was happening (go look at his first conversation with Dave in act 4) who evolved into the bullied character in act 5.a. it's just that hussie lost his ability to follow up on important story points when he split his time between the comic and the game.

So much so that he convinced himself that it was okay for long standing foreshadows to not come to pass because people fail in real life (rose playing the rain, tavros never stepping out of vriska's shadow, Jake attaining his true power and fighting Lord English, Jane restoring life to her land, john fighting bec noir again and winning etc.

>>84349610
>rose playing the rain
isn't this just a meme? Did I miss some part of the plot?

>>84349610
of the five 'long standing foreshadows' youve listed, only the first legitimately got dropped. two actually happened (Jake vs LE and Jane reviving the land) and the other two werent foreshadowed at all.

>>84346758
to create a dynamic. not all characters can be extremely powerful and witty and attractive

>>84349662
The other beta kids completed their planet quests (although Davesprite did Dave's). Out of the alphas we only knew the specifics of Jane's planet quest and she completed it during the trickster arc. But Rose never did hers, which was 'playing the rain' whatever that means. She said fuck it and ran around fucking shit up and making green suns. Then in a6a6i5 she said she'd probably grown out of it and Dave said her real quest might have been to rebel against the obvious one anyway.

>>84349828
page of hope like jake desu

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Lord of Heart?

>>84348454
>>84349828
>>84349900
Can you leave already?

>>84349828
something of blood. ironically, since he doesnt have any. either that or hope. hes not really a page since we're informed he's actually pretty strong but just has no desire to hurt anyone, and hes unlikely to ever develop into any great hero.

Andrew Hussie?

>>84349847
>"playing the rain" whatever that means
decoding the song her land is always playing as a genetic sequence and using it to bring the fish back to the ocean

>>84349962
if people actually have any sort of passion for the entertainment comprising their routine, then they become even more agitated if the output is disturbed. Passionate interest severely exacerbates the situation, and can make a creator envy someone like Marmaduke Guy who spent his career crouching safely in mediocrity, grinding out awful dog comics everyone became totally comfortable with disliking. (I bet he never got an angry letter from an anime fan.) But if you mess with the schedule of material that people zealously crave, they are not merely irked, but can receive it as a personal affront from the author. This is true in varying degrees for probably most enthusiastic readers, but is more pronounced by the degree to which a person is mentally ill.

There are some particularly unpleasant entities out there who pose questions similar to yours, but much less politely. These are seemingly self appointed watchdogs for my page rate, and I think I'm safe in assuming most are severely under-medicated teens with a bigtime beef about You Fucking Name It. As torrid a pace as Homestuck has been unloaded on the public, I think it must have been pretty easy for some spoiled children to factor that rate of output into the entitlement complex which presides over their central nervous systems. Deviation from that production schedule in the minds of the entitled means nothing other than offense committed by the author, or more generously, just a staggering display of laziness. Never mind that the alleged deviation may not even QUITE exist (see numbers in first paragraph). But if it did, I wonder whose rate of production they would compare it to, aside from some foggy recollection of my own?

karkat get that gag and rope away from aradia! it won't end well...

>>84350181
honestly andrew is 100% justified in saying whatever he likes in response to criticisms of his release schedule. he produced content at an ungodly rate. i dont expect to see anything like homestucks update speed again.

What will Joey and Antler Dave's typing quirk be?

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>>84350584
Comic Sans

>>84350551
siivagunner's got a crazy output rate
too bad it's shit now

>>84350584
antler dave will talk like gamebro
joey's hands and mouth will be full of cock so she won't have a quirk

>>84350584
joeys quirk will be all caps and truncated sentences with a lot of full stops.

I can't believe Aranea crushed Karkat's head with her thighs.....

>>84350732
I need morea Aranea fics. I wnt one John conforts her ghost in dream bubble and they proceed to have sex. I want her to grind her pussy against John's face till it gets painted blue with her slutty arousal

Why didn't Eridan just aim for Kanaya's head?

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So, they brought Vriska in the new universe, and she's no different than she was in act 5.

There's going to be a moment where she gets bored again, and decides that her status of Great Hero who Saved Paradox Space gives her the right to bully someone to death again.

At one point it's bound to get noticed by a character who will stop magically not giving a fuck. So what's going to happen? Literally Make Her Pay, probably. Except since she (and literally all the kids) have got SBURB superpowers, the cycle of revenge will be about a hundred times as bad.

It'll be a sight to see. Frankly, they deserve it. All of them. You bring the superpowered psycho shitter attention whore along for the ride, you don't act surprised when she acts exactly how the manual says she will.

Fucking dumbasses.

So during Alternia Bound, how come no one besides Aradia and Terezi noticed that Vriska regrew an arm and an eye?

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nyoro~n

>>84350799
i'm just going to accept this as the epilogue

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>>84350799
I imagine if Vriska goes Vriska again Roxy will just put her down.

She's used to dealing with haughty troll bitches

>>84350639
what is siivagunner? im on the youtube channel and its fun but it feels like theres something im missing

>>84350885
naughty HOT troll bitches*

>>84350804
they avoid looking at her whenever possible

>>84350900
it's supposed to just be a bait and switch channel with mashups instead of the actual music
turns out it's impossible to stick to a high quality standard when you upload 24 videos a day for months

>>84350885
>Vriska sperging out on Roxy for being everything she wanted to be
>Roxy asking "Who are you again?"

>>84350885
Roxy is overrated character

>>84348454
>>84348901
seconding this, this is the only right answer

>>84350970
But Roxy beat Vriska in poker so that she could participate in a threesome

>>84350992
Arent all characters overrated and underrated to a certain extent?

>>84350992
She's the good guy Mary Sue to Vriska's MY MOTIVES ARE COMPLEX Mary Sue

>>84350967
whats all this story and lore shit?

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>>84350992
roxy literally cannot be overrated

>>84351036
Theres a whole ARG thing surrounding the channel, and people refer to it as "lore"
heres a thing explaining it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GiIvaSunner/comments/4oxylf/recap_of_the_arg/
(sorry for the plebbit link, it's the only place i could find all the info in one place)

>>84351022
Literally no flaws except her alcoholism, which she got over as soon as it was necessary. Her "character arc" was discovering that she was the most perfect person to ever exist, while all the other alpha kids actually dealt with crippling personal shortcomings.

>>84351036
people didn't want snow halation rips and started disliking them, so the channel rebooted without snow halation and instead replaced a few of the channel's memes with other memes
and now it's a big fight between sentence mixed chad warden and some unknown evil entity over what memes get to stay

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>>84350799
>>84350885
There is a clear balance of powers.

If any of these characters were to go apeshit, there would be damage on a large scale or worse.

Luckily each character has a respective check in power, as shown by this diagram.

Jade is weak to animal mind control
Tavros is easily put in check by Vriska
Vriska has only ever been really defeated by Aradia
John has hyper time abilities
John is clearly weak to Jade (see: GO timeline)

Maybe you don't even need Aradia, I'm sure John could also deal with Vriska.

>>84351143
>all the info in one place
https://www.reddit.com/r/GiIvaSunner/comments/4ru8wb/recap_of_the_arg_part_2/
theres a part 2 you dip

>>84351165
that is fucking baffling

>>84351203
what is calliope in there for? Just being useless per usual?

>>84351203
aradia is so cute

>>84351274
cherub power
also i needed something to fill the center

>>84351203
assuming retcon works even if he's dead, john is impossible to defeat
he'll just go back and now there are two of him and one knows how to kick your ass

>>84351232
i think the whole ordeal is just stupid if my tone didn't make that obvious

>>84351311
if it works even if he's dead, everybody is fucked yeah.

>tfw Karkat will always be the first victim for no reason

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Do you agree with Nepeta and Aradia cuddling each other?

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>>84351654
>i get to cuddle with aradia

god does love me!

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>>84351654
>cuddle with condy
yes
YES

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>>84351654
>cuddle with Vriska or a Serket whore
no...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>84351203
pretty sure John can punch Vriska into submission when necessary.

am I the only one to want GCATavros to go batshit because it'd be hilarious and a good way for Vriska's actions to finally have catastrophic consequences

>>84351942
where does "loneliness" fit in Space

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>>84351935

>>84352091
rip happy jake

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>huge Lalondefag
>think Voidlight is a Rose/Roxy song, like the Lalonde equivalent of Stride or something, a sort of theme of them finally being together after all the shit they went through and kept them apart in their lives
>love it
>it's actually an alt. Calliope song

still love it though

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>>84351654
>my best friend is a gemini
shame I'm not the type to platonically cuddle

>>84352405
>kurloz happily hugging the guy whos mind he probably destroyed
very heartwarming.

>>84352491
the only thing worse than a fake clown is a fake clown mime

Kurloz raped Aradia.

>>84352491
>we will never fucking know what happened
aaauuuuuuughhhhhhh

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>>84351654
>equius and gamzee

>>84349944
dont get why artists make people's hands blush too.
sure my ears get red when my face does, but my hands????????

>>84351935
pic related

>>84352632
Kurloz would NEVER

>>84352405
cuddle with them anon

>>84352649
isnt that fine in the case of the ancestors? id rather be piecing together the events of their session than have actually watched all six and a half miserable years of it

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>>84351935
John is really great, and in the end he was bestboy.
But he did have competition for a while with Jake. Dirk was cool too.

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>>84352491
they're still moirails. whatever they're dead forever

>>84352875
I just wanna know what happened in that incident specifically. what was mituna's great heroic act? what was the looming threat?

>>84352875
wait did their session really last six and a half years?
what the fuck

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>>84352901
>whatever they're dead forever

Go through a bunch of Homestuck fanartists' art blogs and take a shot every time you find their Attack On Titan phase

>>84352941
i dont think there was any heroic act, sadly. there might have been, but it makes the most sense that mituna saw/learned something important and kurloz silenced him.

>>84352974
three sweeps, yeah

>>84353107
anime is a mistake

>>84348454
Bard of Time.

One who allows the end to come to pass. Aka a lazy ass who lets the end lay waste to everything before finally challenging you.

>>84353140
Eh, either way it would be cool to see the mysteries revealed in the end, and some more character interaction. There's disappointingly few dancestor/alternian or dancestor/kid conversations.

>>84347140
this is it

this is art

So hey, give me a classpect and I will give you a short blurb on what the magic god tier powers that classpect can do.

>>84353514
Always been curious about Knight of Doom, Knight of Rage and Mage of Doom. Pick any one ya like.

Here's how we fix Homestuck. Everything, and I mean everything, can stay except for a few things. Jane's dad has to die first, the story is about moving on from your guardians and him replacing old dad is a little fucked up. Then, Terezi's mind powers has to sync up everyone's ultimate selves and clear out the dream bubbles, since that's also a little fucked up. And also, I guess just bring everyone back to life since Andrew didn't want to give every character a real character arc anyway. Then, Collide should play out like this.
>Beta Kids + Nannasprite + PM and WV (With rulerknife) vs Bec Noir
>Alpha Kids + Arquiussprite + Davepeta + Jasperose + Erisol + Life ring Feferi (for extra healing) + All other living trolls + DD in robot vs Condy
>Spades Slick + The Felt vs Jack English

This way, everyone fights someone they actually have motivation to fight against. Why would you place Dirk vs the Jacks when his whole life was ruined because of Condy? After the fight, Calliborn can awaken within Calliope so she can be relevant too and everyone, including the magic revived A1 trolls, goes over to fight him. Everyone goes to the new universe the end. Maybe even revive the guardians too while you're at it since the whole growing up thing was taken out of the story. At least this way, if Homestuck won't get a satisfying conclusion, it could at least go out with a bang instead of a nice looking fizzle.

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Added more stuff to the dress up flash. I'm still drawing her cerulean-blood outfit, but what other clothes do you think would be cute?

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>>84353598
what story is she from? got a link?

>>84353573
>clear out the dream bubbles
What? Also, how would you bring every dead character back to life? Seems sort contrived.

>>84353573
Oh, and I guess revive AR too because he's the single character in the story to stay dead and not reappear in some form.

>>84353631
Hussie fucked up his own story enough by having the main character retcon someone back to life, I don't see why he can't fuck it up more and bring everyone else back.

>>84353573
congrats, you wrote a worse ending than andrew. i used to think that was impressive but ive seen it so many times in these threads ive come to accept that youre all pretty much retarded

>>84353669
It's still shit writing, just slightly more in character shit writing.

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>>84353614
She is Classpectanon's! Ask blog is here http://askthehorrortrolls.tumblr.com/

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What's his classpect?

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>>84353614
She's my fantroll, Arctis Tignyn, based off of The Thing. She has a lot of costumes because she murders and replaces higher-blooded trolls so she can feed off the affection and care of their lusii and scout out for more victims before moving on.

>>84353566
A Knight of Doom exploits doom, inevitability, and restrictions as a weapon. I could see them having powers that let them create "edicts" or "curses", such as "nobody can attack with their right hand" and then jumping through loopholes to render enemies vulnerable.
Or just fighting with death by throwing bones at people.

>>84353734
Prince of Light. He told them nothing.

>>84353573
dave/terezi/dirk all fought jack english (cal) on the roof because they were the three who carried him to the highest point in the building those three times at the request of a piece of LE. dave and dirk have a LOT of ties to cal. terezi less so but the callback works fine.

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My ending:
>aradia is about to solo LE
>is close to winning
>he takes out his big cock
>she loses her footing for one second
>LE uses this time to grab her
>rips off her clothes
>pushes her mouth on his dick
>the cum also secreted a venom that makes aradia even hornier
>after two gallons of cum swallowed she is completely mindbroken
>gets plowed in the mating press position
>becomes the new handmaid afterwards

>>84353773
That actually makes sense, but is there a reason that John and Rose are present for the Condy fight? I get they're strong, but they don't really have any personal grudges against her. Even right before the fight John says he's over his whole Betty Crocker thing.

>>84353839
no good reason. she became the defacto final boss because jack was claimed by pm. i dont really like how that was handled.

>>84351203
You can outright remove GCATavros from the equation. If Jade goes batshit Vriska can just put her to sleep.

>>84353514
Could you analyze a Knight of Light and a Mage of Void?

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>>84351942
Changed heart and space

Since we're doing different endings, here's one that I like.

Alternate flash instead of Game Over, where they take out the Condesce, Gamzee, and Bec Noir, bsically knock the minor villains off the board. The kids take heavy losses though, since they didn't have their shit together at that point. Maybe they lose PM's ring, or Jane dies (please), or Erisol makes a heroic sacrifice to save the day. They have time to regroup and prepare to fight Lord English, working through some of their personal issues along the way.

In the dream bubbles, Meenah regains her old drive and ambition as a backlash from seeing [Vriska] become so sedentary and useless, and they get the ghost army together again. They rendezvous up with the kids in Paradox Space and cue the final battle, where hopefully we get some final mindfuck wrench in the works for drama's sake (and to give some of those years of theorizing some payoff). Maybe Calliope was LE the whole time and Caliborn really was just a red herring or some shit.

Either way, Spades Slick is the one to kill him, with critical help from Mituna, as it turns out his heroic sacrifice was in the future due to temporal fuckery. Then we can move on to the 5 minutes of a frog flying across futuristic screensavers and have a walkaround game where we can see all the characters interacting one last time before finally entering the new universe.

>>84353999
see >>84353687

>>84354062
No retcon
how the fuck can it be worse than Hussie's?

>>84353920
Knight of Light fights with luck and information. They're the kind of person that can go into the royal library and find the hidden weakness. Also, critical hit class.

Mage of Void is informed by the void and will undergo some sort of calamity by it. This means they have a disturbingly clear head, probably rendering them immune to any mind or emotional control. They'll probably go grim dark at some point. They can punch good, like any other void player.

Why didn't Aradia just rape Vriska?

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>>84354210
didn't she?

>>84353999
Not as bad as the other one also bonus points for my husbando Mituna being relevant

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>>84347428

>>84353687
It's literally not possible to write a worse ending than Andrew. Anything else, anything else at all, would be better.

>>84354330
The Aries symbol almost looks like a dick and balls, just noticed.

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I realize why the Trolls didn't get lots of custom gear, to keep them straight easier, but I still regret it.

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>>84354210

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>>84354381

Before we write out new endings maybe we should agree on what kind of closure/arc end the characters deserve to have

Come to think about it, it'd be nice to all work together on a (somewhat) democratically decided "HSG ending"...

>>84353687
I don't think my ending would be satisfying in the grand scheme of things, I just figured it would be nice for all of the Sburb players to actually do something onscreen. The story touts Sburb and Skaia as functions for creating a universe with an undertone of self growth and people learning about themselves and their lives. It just seems weird to me that that only applies to a few humans who are basically forced to go through that, and then there's a whole session where no one goes through that. If Skaia has the power to do it, why not make all of its players grow like it wants to?

>>84354447
fuck off leddit

>>84354341
what if i did another scratch and then spent another 4000 pages introducing everyone on B3 and A0. And then followed that with a 2000 page intermission featuring all the messy romantic entanglements of the sox year long alpha troll session. and then 2000 pages of john retconning literally everything in the comic until none of it happened at all. and then retelling the entire story again with shelby's art, but replacing every use of the word 'retard' with 'dumb person'

>>84353687
fuck off iggypiggy

>>84354503
Still better than Andrew's ending because there's no way to create "B3" and "A0,"

>>84352901
>>84353016
It's pretty sucky that after their dead end pre-scratch lives, and tragic post-scratch lives, there was no paradise at the end of the tunnel for any incarnation of them. All the suffering and all the millenia of pathetic ghostly existence and they get nothing out of it

I guess some of them, like Condy, enjoyed their post-scratch lives enough to make up for it though

>>84354602
its my cow and ill do what i want with it

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What did Arika mean by this?

>>84354631
Their dead copies didn't experience that though. They are a bunch of young-adults who were forced to wander purgatory forever because Skaia said they weren't good enough, even though Skaia made them that way in the first place. They're all shitty joke characters, but it's still a little fucked up.

>>84354695
caliborn did that to them, not skaia. thats why hes the villain. he made all that happen because hes just that determined to ruin things for everyone, and skaia only enables.

>>84354695
The premise Homestuck is entirely built on horrific implications that go completely unexplored.

>>84354631
>>84354695
isn't it meenah's fault for killing them instead of just letting them get wiped out?

>>84354766
skaia made caliborn lord english

You have ten seconds

to fix post-retcon Karkat

OR ARADIA FUCKING GETS IT!!!

>>84354860
Act 6 Karkat in general is irredeemable

He's a parody of his old self

>>84354835
>skaia only enables
skaia will give you what you want in direct proportion to how much you want it and are prepared to work for it. thats pretty consistent. caliborn just "wants" harder than anyone else, ever.

>>84354695
Yeah, when you think about it it's all seriously fucked up. It'd be nice to see the ghost characters get some sort of happiness in the ending though, even if it's just the knowledge they died for something worth dying for. Unfortunately, Hussie didn't deliver.

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>>84354860

>>84354860
Stop him being such a lil' bitch. Stop DaveKat in its tracks. Maybe give him some stuff with Sollux in the dreambubbles.

>>84354860
He leaves the meteor to go kick ass with Meenah in the dream bubbles and becomes a buff lady slayer

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>>84354860

Dream bubbles exist because a ghost godtier broke the rules of life.
Does it make sense for a ghost to make an afterlife using their powers?
What class would Feferi be if she wasn't the witch? Who'd be the witch instead?

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I heard someone talk about
HOMESTUCK

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are we lord english, hst? stuck forever in the black hole that consumed homestuck. raging about how shitty everything is but unable to do anything about it, while everyone else has moved on and are all enjoying themselves in the real world.

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>>84353598
oh shit i didn't even notice that there was more stuff in the dress up.

if you want another suggestion, rainbow of makeup!

This is the greatest thing I've ever seen, by the way

>>84354860
KARKAT NO GET AWAY FROM HER
SHE'S TOO POWERFUL

>>84355301
Hey, Classpectanon, have you read the Glitch FAQ? What do you think about his interpitation of the Classpects, and in particular his fanon classes and aspects?

>>84355342
I have - I didn't pay a great deal of attention to his interpretation as the classpects, since most of his theories became invalidated in short order, but as a self-contained AU, it's remarkably well thought out. I'm not a huge fan of fan classpects, but if i had to pick a bunch to be okay with, his would be the most.

>>84353598
Also, I feel like maybe you could separate the makeup into eyeshadow, lipstick, and blush?

>>84355268
no, because english won the game
we are the true losers

>>84355486
if there is any lesson to learn from vriskas arc its that being a winner makes you a loser

>>84355388
He did sort of predicted the Lord and Muse class, (Though he called them Smith and Muse)

>>84354860
>*slices Karkat in half with my 8-folded pirate katana*
Like a 8reeze in a summer night........

>>84355342
Just for another voice on the Glitch FAQ, a lo of the fanon aspects seem to be offshoots or mixes of the Canon 12. The same can kind of be said for classes such as the Smith, which was supposed to be a crafting based class if I remember correctly. The idea that you make things to give to other people kind of falls into page territory however.

>>84354695
>>84354768
Fucking amen.

The "happy" ending we've been sold is a joke. Anyone with half a brain will figure it out by sitting down and thinking about it for a minute.

You've got a dozen Chosen Ones leaving for paradise (with like a third of them in an awful mental state) and the rest is stuck in purgatory for eternity, if not outright hell, for a single sin: they did not do exactly what the universe secretly wanted them to do.

Homestuck is a monument to nihilism sold as a happy coming-of-age creation myth. Thousands of people fell for it and still don't suspect a thing. Thousands of others do, but they prefer to play make-believe so they don't have to admit they got fucking conned.

Scratch at the thin layer of pink paint and you'll see the story's true nature. But hey, you're right, why would anyone want to do that when we've got a handful of happy gays! Please buy Hussie's shitty vaporware spinoff games so he can keep pretending he didn't disappoint millions of people! Bastards.

What was the purpose of Jane restoring life to one section of only her planet and then no one ever seeing it and never mentioning it again.

>>84347242
Dave probably started the whole "ebin irony" trend.

>>84355777
The weirdest part, as I addressed in one of my earlier posts, is that every single person that plays Sburb is a chosen one. But for some reason, some Chosen Ones are more Chosen than other Ones. And you're right, no one cares about that part because they get their shipping fuel and everything is ok. It's arguably the most interesting/messed up part of the story and it's completely glossed over. What a wasted opportunity.

>>84355777
what if i like nihilism more than happy endings

>>84355777
>nihilism

Fatalism more like

I'm amazed at all this philosophical shit Hussie managed to seamlessly integrate, though. We've got Gnosticism, hard determinism, fatalism, nihilism, creation vs destruction

>>84351075
This because of this.
>>84351153

>>84356013
It's still a disappointing piece of shit. Homestuck really could have been MORE tragic, but Hussie wanted to focus on jokes, le jokes man.

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>>84356014
And it's all thrown in the trash for Dave Kat.

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>>84353598
would you happen to need more trolls to use

>>84355847
i think we need to accept that hussie had zero plans for anything in the comic, and that basically 99% of the story was made up on the fly without a single thought for deeper meaning and symbolism (beyond referencing other works or other ideas)

there is no "purpose" because it was all the inner ramblings of a dude in his mid 30s who eventually gave up

that kinda spoils the magic. but yeah. santa isn't real and we need to move on, i guess.

>>84356094
idk knowing it's meaningless lazy shit doesn't make me sad because it makes me wonder; what the fuck could he do if he TRIED?

>>84356013
overcoming a shitty situation and barely eking out a happy ending is the best sort of plotline desu, pure nihilism all the time is boring

>>84356082
i dont think homestuck could possibly have been more tragic while maintaining the thin veneer of a happy ending

>>84356094
Maybe one day he'll come back and give Homestuck a proper structure, utilizing all of the interesting ideas he glossed over in favor of teenage drama to sell t-shirts.

>>84356163
fuck that just let him start over and do something NEW

Shit taste:
>X character is great because the comic doesn't show his/her flaws or their consequences

Better taste:
>X character is great because he/she has got some flaws with actual negative impact, but he/she tries really hard to improve

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>>84346758
He was the reason I liked Vriska in act 5. He deserved to get 8ullied for being such a weenie.

>>84356163
>>84356203
Fuck both of those things just give us a compendium of sBurbs

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Another WIP for Land of Steel and Silicone - The background is more or less how I want it now, but there's still all the foreground buildings, core and orbital moons/paths to go, plus any more general detail that I want to add afterwards.

God damn this one's taking a long time.

>>84356257
ironic vriskafags >>>/out/

>>84356209
>Roxy
vs.
>Tavros.

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>>84351654
>not scorpio and aries

>>84356373
truth nuke here

>>84356373
>tavros tries hard to improve
hhahhaaahaa

>>84356395
>Implying going from a weenie to the leader of an army didn't take effort.

>>84352405
I recall Sollux's duality making him hate/like gamzee.

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>>84356373
uH, kILL ME,
i, aM THE ALPHA TAVROS, pLEASE DON'T RAPE ME VRISKA

>>84356280
Honestly, this is something I've wanted since I started reading Homestuck 5 years ago. I always assumed Sburb, its intricacies and its creators would all get revealed as the comic went on, and those questions were only half answered. A full Sburb guide book detailing all the sessions we see in the comic and other things about the game would be the greatest one thing to come out of Homestuck.

>>84355445
In that case, I might have the buttons like the blush where there is a single button that scrolls through all the options in a loop (so there isn't a clutter of arrows). I don't think I'll be able to separate the clothing into their components though due to layering issues

>>84356088
Yes, I need more outfits! And you reminded me that I need to make a seadweller fins option

>>84356287
That looks awesome!

>>84355777
You're acting as if the depressing implications aren't what everyone likes about homestuck

...where is Karkat?

>HUSSIE: Just need to find the right moment to make my move. Only problem is, I lost the ring.
>HUSSIE: John FUCKING Egbert has it. Doesn't look like he's gonna let it go either, the bastard.
>HUSSIE: Gotta make a plan. Think, imagination, think. Argh, the one time I really need you!
in retrospect andrew was planning to revive vriska at LEAST since openbound

>>84356524
haha no way dude! kids and fun lol!

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>>84356546
I AM BACK FROM THE HUMAN "GAY" BAR.

>>84356606
Karkat at a gay pride parade.

>>84356373
>>84356387
My niggas. I was this close to naming them but I decided to keep it vague. Glad I'm not the only one with this point of view.

>>84356426
To be fair, he did it offscreen, and Roxy also stopped drinking offscreen.
But yeah. That was Roxy's sole improvement, besides maybe apologizing to Jane for being a dick. (Or was it to Dirk?)
We actually saw Tavros go from being bossed around by Vriska to trying to kill her in order to protect his friends, that's some massive improvement right here, no matter what >>84356395 says.

>>84356637
Karkat committing live suicide at a gay pride parade!

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>>84356637
>>84356606
not in MY city.

>>84356644
He still had a more clear arc. From being bullied to being overconfident to Vriska killing him for standing up for himself and then slowly picking himself up again. Roxy is just "i no drink now lol sorry for that"

>>84356084
davekat barely existed in the story besides some vague winks and nudges

>>84356395
of course he tried. he failed, sure, but he tried. that's more than can be said for most of the cast.

>>84356549
>in retrospect andrew was planning to revive vriska at LEAST since openbound
foreshadowing a poor writing doesn't suddenly make it good writing

Remember when Feferi did something incredibly important that was never addressed and then was killed off for almost no reason?

>>84356733
>implying implications

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>>84356733
Tell that to Andrew "It's meta so it's not shit" Hussie.

>>84356606
>>84356637
Jesus fuck, can Vriska just eat his shitty existence already?

Just end him already.

>>84356751
...fuck sollux on top of a sleeping aradiabot?

>>84356868
Dream Bubbles/Horrorterrors shit.

What is it with the Vriska/Karkat shitters and their obsession with forcing their retarded vore fetish meme every single thread

>>84355847
We did see it later. All the life that Jane brought into her land was dead and decaying. That's the sort of thing that happens when you rely on drugs to solve your problems.

>>84356902
so she can fuck a dead sollux in front of a dead aradiabot?

>>84356963
Sure, go with that.

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>>84356518
are you going to make a dude dressup thing

John's rampant homophobia.

>>84356943
We see it from space. No character actually visits that part of the planet after the trickster arc.

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>>84357032

>>84357065
C U T E!

>>84356902
>Dream Bubbles/Horrorterrors shit.
That was the exact opposite of never addressed.

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>>84356780
>Rose didn't go mad with the sheer nihilism of it all and just kill herself then and there while laughing crazy

Oh Well

>>84357107
...what is kanaya doing

>>84346758
hE WAS, uH, tHERE SO THE VRISKA WOULD, hAVE AN OUTLET FOR HER CRIPPLE FETISH

>>84357105
Well, I mean, didn't seem like she got much credit for it.

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>>84357160
Kanaya's feet.

>>84357185
she got to bone sollux in heaven forever, theres no reason to feel bad for her

>>84357185
That's because, instead of writing her as a character with more depth, and having her slowly change over time in ideals and goals to be more like Meenah, thus allowing her to take the role Meenah had, thus avoiding the need for 12 more trolls, Hussie got lazy and pushed out merch trolls to sell $hirts.

It's ok though. I'd rather she just leave the story so she didn't have to suffer the same horrible fate the other trolls did.

>>84357272
Well, I'm pretty sure the 12 more trolls would be inevitable in some sense because of the Alpha session but whatever.

>>84357272
>feferi should have developed to be like meenah
nice fucking meme man

>>84357342
Not like HER. Like her role in the story and plot.

>>84357272
Whilst I do agree that Feferi should have changed over her time in the dream bubbles to fit the more domineering role of Meenah, developing a highly materialistic attitude is incredibly hard to justify in a place like the dreambubbles where nothing is really permanent. The positive, bubbly characters in Homestuck really needed some more definitive differences outside of just physical design, Jade, Feferi and Nepeta arguably come across rather similar.

>>84357333
The alpha trolls were meaningless. We could have never had them and nothing would have changed. If anything, making the bubbles focus only on the original 12 trolls might have made things work out better.

>>84357409
They didn't take up much time and they still had some interesting aspects. Thought that idea sounds good too.

>>84357223
man, why is she so cute?

>>84357409
I'm glad they were introduced, openbound was funny and their snippets of backstory were interesting. also they're all pretty cute

and I love meenah

>>84357409
That would have been infinitely better for sure, though I don't mind Aranea too much given she was interesting enough as a character and had some exceptional powers to make a big impact in the story.

>>84357552
Girls not allowed here.

>>84357047
I'm only doing a dress up of Arctis, but if I remember correctly she also disguises herself as guys. I'm at least going to draw her in guys' outfits as well. The more outfits and horns, the merrier!

Plus I want to draw Arctis in Büjorn's suit... for reasons...

Aaand you reminded me that I need to prep for a hair accessories option

>>84357272
Why make her more like Meenah when Meenah had literally zero purpose in the story other than being Serket arm candy?

And giving us some insight into Condy's personality I guess. Which didn't matter much either.

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>>84357661
You are a god

fuchsia bloods are all sex machines

prove me right

protip: you can't

>>84357611
>implying we arent all girls

>>84357687
>Which didn't matter much either.
likeyouropinionman.jpg

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>>84357726
I'm glad I'm not.

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>>84357696
I need my daily dose of girls in suits. It's my lifeblood, man

WHY ARE THERE LITERALLY NO PICTURES OF JOHN EGBERT
REEEEEEEE

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>>84347168
It plays the Seinfeild theme.

>GG: dave why are you always singing that ethnic music??
>TG: you mean my raps
>GG: yes!
>GG: dont ever sing like a darkie ever again!
Damn, those early conversations where something else.

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>>84357850

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I'm glad SGDQ is taking my attention from memeing in this dead thread.

>>84357958
EB: wow rose. i never knew you had queer hair!
TT: ...Excuse me? "Queer hair"? I like my hair short, thank you.
EV: you look like a total carpet muncher haha!

No kidding.

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>>84357850
This is the closest I have, outside a that.

if dave had to ask dirk how he came out

does this mean that everybody already knew rose liked girls?