Cannon Busters

This is going to be a messy piece of shit praised for 'style' and having cool set piece moments but actually have zero substance outside the visuals, with shoddy world building, poorly written characters and a disappointing overall story.

Love the trailer it looks like a good mix of Cowboy Bebop and Trigun. Netflix should pick this up.

>>84271183
Animation looks good and stylish
I heard bahijd and thomas romain were on the project.
If this blows up then all those westerner animators get a bigger foothold in the japanese industry

>>84271232
And that's okay because while story and characters are very important, "style" and the like can more than make up for it in entertainment value.

Kickstarted this. Hope its as amazing as it looks.

>>84271183
Eh. Looks okay but I'm really not digging the design of the main cast.

>>84271271
>"style" and the like can more than make up for it in entertainment value
Passing, throw-away entertainment. Personally, I rarely revisit something just for aesthetic reasons. There has to be something more there for it to cling on. It doesn't necessarily have to be something 'deep' or anything, but it has to have a substance to it.

This is just Afro-Samurai all over again. Fans of the style will gush over it for a bit, then it'll just fade out of relevance because there's nothing else to hook viewers except the style.

>>84271298
It's a 10 minute pilot, so unless this picks up intrest, it'll only remain as a 10 minute clip

>dat brown girl

>>84271271
Going style over substantial only gets you in the door and is very short sighted.
>RWBY
Yes, that is a pretty example of what I'm talking about the teasers were great in their style. But when it came to the actually series IT WAS SHIT. I couldn't get pass the first episode it was so badly done and the characters were so been there done that.

>>84271317
>it'll only remain as a 10 minute clip
Some times it's best that things stay that way imho.

>>84271183
This looks fucking great. I dont know what your talking about ghetto... the animation looks a little like Afro Samurai i guess but thats about it.

>>84271183
>Anon
I almost red Anon Busters.

>>84271183
I love the art. Hope the writing is good.

>>84271298
This is only the trailer for the pilot and it has more plot then hes black and hes a samurai and everyone wants to fight him something something dead father and a bandana.
Honestly all I remember of afro samurai was getting bored of it. It was made to sell commercials to idiots in the guise of fake anime.

>>84271378
Everyone is black and the soundtrack has an urban beat to it. I see where the anon is coming from.

>>84271396
>hes black and hes a samurai and everyone wants to fight him something something dead father and a bandana.
First of all there is actually some "lore" and morals if you will to Afro Samurai, the issue is the narrative can't focus on any of it too long or the viewer will realize not only is Afro a terrible person with a terrible personality but that just about anyone else would be more interesting to follow. Kuma for example.

I can't really prove it one way or the other but I get the feeling the mangaka was trying to replicate a character like Kenshiro or Guts but didn't realize while they generally meet their world with an appropriately strong silent type behavior both still have a wild, sarcastic and even soft side to them. There's subtle range to them that makes them interesting without being inconsistent. It requires a background, origin story and motive that go beyond just trauma induced revenge and more a worldly but world weary upbringing. Guts and Kenshiro have been around enough to have actual character, Afro's really just some asshole who sat around for a bit until fate came to him and then he started bringing trouble to other people. He does little to nothing for anyone and it starts to wear thin why the viewer should care about his plight over any other headband seeker.

>Honestly all I remember of afro samurai was getting bored of it. It was made to sell commercials to idiots in the guise of fake anime.
More importantly though Afro Samurai IS a manga and then anime OVA. It's not faux anything.

>>84271434
Yeah, but I'm guessing the creators are probably black, and isn't it nice to see minorities representing themselves instead of demanding indignantly that white people do it for them?

>>84271183

Nothing wrong with the presentation, it's going for a afro samurai,boondocks look and that's pretty fucking great.

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>>84271183
>Trigun
>BUT WITH BLACK PEOPLE

Wow, so original and unique. This i sure to be a hit!

>>84271455
I actually didnt know about the Manga, i assumed it was manufactured ground up by Spike TV. Still not a huge fan of the whole this guy vs other guy for ever format of anime/manga so I probably wont check it out.

>>84271476
You forgot more robots and replace vash with black spike. Take these two facts into account and its a recipe for awesome.

>>84271476
So apparently only one anime is allowed to do a space-western theme. The entire genre is off limits now. Yep.

>>84271271
Motorcity had style over substance. Animation and design were good, but the stories sucked. It fucking tanked. And I liked Motorcity.

>>84271476
i also got a bit of a cowboy bebop feeling from it

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>>84271183
Fixed.

>>84271183
Anyone know the name of the animation studio for this?

The little robot sounds like Peacock from Skullgirls.

>>84271602
Satelight Inc.
http://www.cannonbusters.com/team/

>>84271183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_Busters
so it's a comic adaptation, by LeSean Thomas

He's worked on Boondocks, Black Dynamite, and on Legend of Korra

Yeah, it'll probably be 'ghetto' like Boondocks. I'm sure it'll be very well animated.

>>84271242
yeah it looks great and the dude, lesean thomas, as well as most of the animator/producer team, did space dandy

I want a whole fucking series

>>84271294
>>84271588
>a black robot is just TOO far
>TWO brown characters? too far

damn you guys are sensitive buggers

>>84271572

Boy, I wonder what could have set that off.

Could it be the swaggering fighting beanpole guy with a tie and an afro?

I have the comic there were only two issues

>>84271712
How was the, dare I say, plot/story/writing?

>>84271720
the art was pretty much the same here's the solicitation
>In this first action-packed issue of the new bi-monthly mini series, we start off on Gear Bolt, a vast land composed entirely of a monstrous, constantly rotating clock gear. In the progressive, hi-tech Kingdom of Botica, it's the anniversary of the "New Deal," a peace treaty unifying the only 5 kingdoms of Gear Bolt, and everyone who is anyone is in attendance! We meet Samberry, a royal assistance droid who secretly shares a close bond with the son of King Bulger, and heir to the Botica throne, Prince Toji. The celebration is brought to a shattering halt when the Kingdom suddenly comes under attack by a mysterious sorcerer known only as LOCK and his minions, who are in search of a mysterious "device" that he claims the King is hiding. The attack leaves Sam separated from the prince, alone on the outskirts of the kingdom for the first time ever. In a place where magic is extinct, will there be a force to challenge LOCK? Will Sam survive and find her way back to Prince Toji? The epic saga of a robot's quest back home starts here in this first spectacular, action-packed issue!

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>>84271588
>>84271672

Fuck man, you are right. Let me fix that.

>>84271751
Give the robot Popo face and we're good.

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>>84271183
Designs are solid
Music is jamming
The mouthflaps weirds me out despite having watched voltron

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>>84271663
The news in this thread just gets better and better

>removing the brown girl

What happened to you, /co/?

>>84271738
This setting sounds cool. It reminds me of the plane of Mechanus in dungeons and dragons, where ive always wanted to run a xampaign gyt never been able to get one together.

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>>84271838
Ignore them, they must be new or something.

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>>84271751
>>84271762
>Give the robot Popo face and we're good.

okie doke

>>84271860
I dunno, I usually don't like the princess peach look but it seems to work better here than the original appearance. Something about it is just off, ain't the kinda brown that makes me go to town, you know?

>>84271884
It's the blonde hair and blue-green eyes.

>>84271884
Meh. I personally love light hair on dark chicks. We as a race need to get working on this in the eugenics department for the betterment of society or some shit.

>>84271183
Man, it's look awesome as fuck.

>Hurr Durr why aren't there any western action cartoons
>There's no one to ship, this looks horrible

The cartoon side of /co/ proves its inferiority yet again. Go and masturbate to steven shittyverse and pedo anime, you degenerate cunts

>>84271183
Holy shit its boondocks meets hunterxhunter

>>84271232
Not every Kickstarter is going to turn out like Mighty No 9.

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>>84271183
>Hey guys lets have a black female lead
>But let's give her blonde hair and green eyes

>>84271183
>everyone is black
>all the bad guys are white
its weird seeing the reverse but i find it greatly amusing

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>>84271917
Nature already found a way
http://www.odditycentral.com/news/black-and-blond-the-origin-of-blond-afros-in-melanesia.html

>>84272049
Nobody batted an eye at all the blue eyed inuits and eskimos in Avatar

>>84272049
That thong th thong thong thong

>>84272065

She's a little too dark for me, though a mid to dark woman would be best. Dark, not middle-of-the-congo-african dark, but dark.

>>84272088
To be fair you can justify Sam having white features since she is not human. The water tribe people having blue eyes was just part of the fantasy aspect of the series to show the element of their nation like how people from the earth kingdom had green eyes and the fire nation had yellow eyes, I don't think that it could be considered white washing.

>>84271183
>the "cool guy" is trying to look like Spike Spiegel trope
>the shitty music
>the horrible dubbing
>the nerve to ask money for this

And the part that upsets me most is I love the art and animation, so what a waste.

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>>84272088
Avatar water tribes were brown, not black. Brown pigmentation is common even in real life inuits do to them getting their vitamin d from a heavily fish based diet. White pigmentation / blonde hair / blue eyes is more typical in northern ethnic groups like scandinavians and finnics that historically have lived without a reliable source of vitamin d other than the sun. Vitamin d insufficiency is a legit problem in areas where sunlight is minimal 3 months of a year.

>>84272120
I didnt say it was white washing. I like when entire ethnicities are created for works of fiction. Unique culture is one thing but it really gives the culture depth when it has it's iwn unique look and physical features. Thats why i like Dune so much, Herbert went nuts mashing up humanity in his own sandbox universe and it created some kind of magic you dont normally get but people often strive for.

>>84272169
There are no black people in avatar. I cant be the only person who's noticed this.
Also i was talking about the eyes dude. Im a Canadan native, I know what colours we range. There has been historical documents of the Beothuk tribe on the east coast having blue eyes for some times afther the Norse came over here, but sadly those genes have all bred away. Huge fucking blue eyed injun viking cross. Not somebody to fuck with.

>>84272135
Its a pilot you mook. The budget for everything else comes later after they are picked up by producers. As for hating on archetypes keep yelling at that brick wall buddy, hope it works out for ya.

>>84272058
reverse? white characters with black villains is incredibly rare

>if minorities want to be represented they should make their own shit
>why is everyone black in a black created
Oh /pol/ never change

>>84272336
>muh /pol/
shoo

>>84272280
Blue eyes tend to correspond with blonde hair and blue eyes in real life, there's not much else that can be said about it. They do look neat though and give a nice contrast to darker skin, which is why artists like to use that combo. In real life it's much more uncommon.

>>84272344
Why don't you go back to your containment board faggot

>>84272357
I've never been on /pol/ you little bitch

>>84271965
>pedo anime
Sorry but truth is action anime is pretty shit with few good expections. I like slice of life genre more because japs get it right most of time.

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>>84271183
I'll take six

>>84272380
Man i wish i hate some bait pictures to respond to this with. You know theres slice of life anime that doesnt center around little girls and yaoi fuckboys, right? It's usually better anination too.

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>it looks ghetto as fuck
What did he mean by this

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>>84271965
>pedo anime

>>84272380
So you are saying you live in japan? Because nobody fucking lives by the societal standards we see in anime but the nips. There is no fucking way that everyone you know and regularly associate with has functional autism and a bunch of stupid unspoken set of taboos to follow and you live anywhere but asia.

>>84272380
>Sorry but truth is action anime is pretty shit with few good expections. I like slice of life genre more because japs get it right most of time.

Most anime is shit because Japan produces over 50% of the world's cartoons by churning out as much as possible with next to no regard for the actual quality of the finished product a vast majority of the time. For every "good" SoL anime you can think of, there are five more that are completely unwatchable.

>>84271183
>Not using Jazz
>Not using Country

Fucking Dropped!

I thought the animation looked very Japanese, and what do you know it's being animated by a Japanese studio.

>>84273371
>churning out as much as possible with next to no regard for the actual quality of the finished product a vast majority of the time
This isn't actually true.

>For every "good" SoL anime you can think of, there are five more that are completely unwatchable.
At worst a SoL anime is just not very interesting. I can't think of one that was outright bad.

>>84271232
You don't know what substance is.

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How is this going to be sold?
This looks like it belongs in the 2000s when Naruto and One Piece were a thing, but does that market even exist today?
Haven't young boys moved on from anime at this point?

If these were the scenes that were meant to get me excited for this, then I can only assume the rest of this is pretty shit

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>>84271183
>literally ripping off the first episode of Trigun but using black people

>>84271456

This. I love black weeaboos, they're great people. I think this looks like it could be pretty cool too, like a fusion of Cowboy Bebop/The Boondocks/Space Dandy/Afro Samurai.

I'll definitely check it out.

>>84273499
Vigorous rebuttal.

>>84271183
Afro samurai fell through some tough times after the second game failed

>>84273588
Young boys don't back Kickstarters, and anime is popular even if it's no longer a phenomena like Pokemon and DBZ were.

>>84271183
This looks pretty solid. Hyped.

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>>84271183
I hope this fail so I can see the action cartoonfags cry more.

>>84271183
I dig the dude and robot's designs but not really the main girl's. I do like her personality tho.

>>84274017
i doubt it. otherwise that new voltron show wouldn't have been picked up.

>>84271183
Girl looks like a ganguro.

>>84271476
>>84271572
Honestly, ripping off other shows is fine for me if I loved those shows.

I want more Bebop. I want more Trigun. If nobody else is making those shows, the knockoff will do just fine.

>>84274133
the problem being people comparing it to those shows and cannon busters not living up to the "hype" / not meeting the expectations of people who are fans i.e. it's similar ergo its the new. people will dislike it

>>84271183
>more USAnime
REVOLUTION INBOUND

>>84271476
>A concept can only be done once

>>84274403
that won't stop my enjoyment of it, but I might be upset if nothing comes of this pilot due to the subpar general reaction because people deem it as a ripoff.

>>84273598
>>literally ripping off the first episode of Trigun but using black people

Is there anything they WON'T steal?

So why aren't cowboy bebop and trigun deemed rip offs of actual westerns? Seems like a weird bias to have. Let the show rise or fall on it's merits.

>>84274598
it just seemed like black spike in trigun setting with Elisi Linette from zoids

>>84271643
>>84271663
>LeSean Thomas

Fuck that nigga. I remember when the Beware the Batman producer called out the lack of action shows and Thomas made some cheap cracks to make fun of him and that show's CGI. A few months later, now he's whining about the lack of action cartoons and uses it to beg for Kickstarter money.

Again, fuck that guy.

>>84274652
I don't think the characterization is even similar outside of the hair.

>>84271183
Why can't Japs draw black people?

>>84272049
>implying dark skin and light hair isn't aesthetically pleasing

It's why black people look better in brighter color clothes. It's what I look for when I buy clothes.

>>84271183
Is that the final recording or is this just for the trailer?

Because someone needs to fire the sound designer if it is.

>>84274889
>It's why black people look better in brighter color clothes.
Yeah, like orange jumpsuits.

(You walked right into that one.)

>>84274855
Drawing black people with black people features is considered racist.

>>84271362
>RWBY
>Style

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>>84271232
> but actually have zero substance outside the visuals, with shoddy world building, poorly written characters and a disappointing overall story
You are basing this on literally nothing.

>>84274889
This.

I hope this does well purely because we need more action cartoons, especially original ones.

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>>84274598
Because they were an early rendition of the genre mash up and quality products on their own. Blackgun has to fight its way uphill because it doesn't exist yet so everyone is going to just run off presumption
Also it annoys me when people say Cowboy Bebop is a western, it plays on Detective Noir conventions much more heavily.
>>84272049
>>84274889
>>84275008
I like Darker hair on dark skin. The whole Dark Skin blonde thing never appealed to me, only time it's salvageable is when it's stark white, and they NEED to be a certain amount darker than their hair otherwise I feel like they fight one another.

>>84274988
>You are basing this on literally nothing.

It's based on a comic book that got cancelled after 1 issue because it was so terrible.

>steampunk niggers in the west
Or are they okinowan?
Im intrigued, hope the voice acting doesnt suck as much as it did in that video

>>84274070
Yeah. Gal-O Sengen.

>>84275077
actually 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_Busters

>>84271588
>>84271751
>>84271883
thank god tumblr-cucks still fall for bait or we'd have no incentive to make more oc

>>84274823
I think my only gripe not so much with him but his sort, if you will, is they claim to want to prove action shows can work, they claim to be inspired by all these greats, they claim the industry is working against the genre due to just being cheap and while I don't disagree with these points and arguments the thing is they make all these claims and when they get the opportunity to prove everyone wrong or make a difference they prove them right. They make a show that is uninspired despite their inspirations. Instead of learning from predecessors, good or bad, they seem to sketch a stencil of the exact thing studios see as production poison and use as an example to deny ideas similar to it.

Why? I just don't understand. Not only am I confused how someone could watch all those great shows they always list and learn nothing from their presentation outside the action scenes, unless of course all they took from it were the action scenes, but why there seems to be this insurmountable chasm with action and drama where few action shows have decent or good writing and no drama will ever have any quality choreography.

Can't they just hire people who know what they're doing? Is there some sort of high school clique divide between the production teams behind these things that prevents them from bringing the best of both sides together and knowing how to avoid the worst?

Just what the fuck is going on?

It should cost them between $240,000 and $300,000 to make a half hour long episode. That's not much by US standards. Kind of makes you wonder what the fuck everyone else is doing when they're spending twice that for (at most) half the quality.

I'll never understand why black characters in scifi and fantasy triggers nerds so hard.

>>84275800
>sekrit club

>>84275077
No you moron ut was because the company went bankrupt. Also have you seen iZombie? That's based on a cancelled comic and it's arguably the best comic book show on air right now.

>>84275800
Because it's always shit.
Always.
You know it's bad when even Nerds won't stomach the lack of quality.

>>84271183
Is this Anime?

>>84274823
Maybe we'd still have action cartoons if BTB wasn't so boring and ugly.

>>84275337
Only a tiny fraction of the cost of your typical cartoon actually goes into the animation.

>>84276113
>You know it's bad when even Nerds won't stomach the lack of quality.
Nerds not liking it despite lack of quality doesn't mean it's bad
at least, no more than Nerds liking something despite the lack of quality makes that something good

>>84275235
>Just what the fuck is going on?

money

>>84276140
No, although it's visually very similar. It's produced by a Japanese studio.

>>84276177
Yeah but the budget for this is the total budget, for everything.

>>84276263
>Yeah but the budget for this is the total budget, for everything.
They're clearly going cheap with everything else.

>>84274916
This. Something about the voices sounds off to me, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Other than that, I'm looking forward to watching this.

>>84276402
They aren't being cheap, everyone else is just being expensive.

>>84276488
Look at the voice acting and trailer editing.

>>84271183

I don't like the design of Sam. Black characters and blond hair don't mix very well.

The rest looks good. Is this done by the same people that did The Boondocks or something?

>>84271183
Is this origianl or based on comic?

>>84276508
You don't need a lot of money for good voice acting, and they're using more than anime does. If the editing is bad it's not because of a lack of funds.

>>84273588
>Haven't young boys moved on from anime at this point?
That's the funny thing about children; as long as people keep having them the "young boy demographic" will never go away.

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>>84276513
>Black characters and blond hair don't mix very well.
Shit taste

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>>84271183
Reminder that Felipe Smith voices the kid.

>>84276891
Dem some light skinned, skin baring, bunny eared, slender, TIGHT women. You can put any hair color on them and it makes little difference to what they already got going on.
Not that I disagree with the blond on brown thing.

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>>84276513
>Black characters and blond hair don't mix very well.
Only if they look like actual nogs.

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>>84271183
>Westerners finally get the chance to break into the anime industry and introduce some actually decent writing
>Instead he creates some ghetto weeaboo shit

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>>84276513
>Black characters and blond hair don't mix very well.

Gonna have to disagree with you there.

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>>84277028
DERE U GO. Das it mane.
Honey and chocolate.

>>84276513
Same character designer.

>>84276891
You just reminded me of how Shara and Ritz never became lesbians.

>>84277000
If waifus looked like real people they wouldn't be waifus.

>>84277001
>anime industry
This is as American a production as Adventure Time.

>>84277001
In Netflix we trust

>>84277001
There already is actually decent writing in the anime industry, and as >>84277114 said it's not like they're in the anime industry now. They're just contracting a Japanese studio to produce the animation.

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>>84277174
We currently have better standard of writers here in the west. There are the occassional gems in anime, though.
>>84277114
Then why the FUCK does it have to be so ratchet? It looks like a kid took some anime footage and made a fan trailer and slapped on some royalty free music.

>>84277247
American shows are almost entirely limited to episodic children's shows and sitcoms.

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>>84277075
>implying

>>84277291
I'm not from America, but there are some really nicely written and directed shows coming from the US in the last 7 years.

>>84277247
>We currently have better standard of writers here in the west.
I don't really agree with that. Neither is better, both mostly suck.
>Then why the FUCK does it have to be so ratchet?
Because LeSean Thomas is an idiot, despite the connections and skills he has.

>>84277247
>Then why the FUCK does it have to be so ratchet? It looks like a kid took some anime footage and made a fan trailer and slapped on some royalty free music.
Because it's being made comparatively on pennies, by a handful of people.

>>84271588
>>84271751
10/10 make weebs great again.

But seriously, throw away 90's animu but with darker skin tone?
This is what yer excited about??
Really?

>>84277335
Such as?

>>84277352
>Neither is better, both mostly suck.
They aren't even comparable.

>>84274855
Even blacks don't like black features, I'm sorry, black is not beautiful.
Enjoy yer octoroons and mulattos.

You know what this reminds me of? This trailers at the start of VHS anime tapes in the late 90s, early 00s. It's got that kind of early Viz Media feel.

>tanned animu & blonde hair
>""""""""""""""""""black""""""""""""""""
When will this meme die?

>>84277386
Fargo
Always Sunny
Archer
Breaking Bad
The Sopranos
Sons of Anarchy
Rick & Morty

Even though I love anime, I can't tell you even this many semi-recent shows that can touch the quality of the writing and directing of what the west is currently producing because there are too many autists in the anime industry who don't know how real people act.
Bebop got props for being well directed and quite mature for the medium back in the day, but really the writing isn't all that great all things considered. I would love a merging of the talents.

>>84271183
>boondocks trigun
I see absolutely nothing wrong with this.

Tho if he wanted cater to /co/ & internet, he should have packed it with at least 5 differently hot guys.

>>84271751
Making the main guy white makes me think of that blazblue character

>>84277533
>how real people act
>Archer

You know, given your list it seems you're implying that good writing and realistic people requires that "real people" equate to borderline sociopath criminals.

>>84271183
>robot loli
Picked up.
Lewds when???

>>84277533
Half yer shows are straight up comedies that depend on crude humor, sarcasm, and topical references, the test are filled with criminals.

Yer a low life degenerate parroting opinions you know nothing of.

>>84277533
We were talking about animation.

>there are too many autists in the anime industry who don't know how real people act.
If you go by the assumption that the purpose of fiction is to be as realistic as possible (or what people think is realistic) and anything that isn't realistic enough is a result of a failure on the writer's part. The West's obsession with realism is often a limiting factor, and something isn't good just because it's realistic (or, again, what people think is realistic).

>Bebop got props for being well directed and quite mature for the medium back in the day, but really the writing isn't all that great all things considered.
This sentence tells me everything I need to know about your knowledge of anime.

>I would love a merging of the talents.
I would love for Westerners to not infect the anime industry with their idiocy.

>>84277586
I'm not that same anon, but I'd say that while the cast of Archer is generally crazy, semi-sociopathic assholes, the beats and cadence of the dialogue is very realistic. A lot of the comedy comes from the cast being in incredibly serious and/or dangerous situations while having very mild, conversational banter.

>>84277533
Rakugo Shinjuu is better than all of those.

>>84277533
Tho I agree with your sentiment, your choices are /tv/ tier meme trash

>>84272468
Yeah like Aria and i like it alot.

>>84277663
No it isn't dipshit, it's just standard sitcom banter ratched up, are you fucking insane?

>>84273371
And i know this but i just cant into shounen or action anymore with some few expetations.

>>84277680
>Aria
>not little girl moeshit

>>84277733
"Little girl" and "moeshit" are nothing but memes.

>>84277731
Are you not 15 anymore?
That maybe why.

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>>84277586
Archer has believable characters despite how zany it is. And we all know how cringey sociopaths are in anime. Your typical wide-eyed smiling and laughing maniacally bullshit. Pic related.

>your list it seems you're implying that good writing and realistic people requires that "real people" equate to borderline sociopath criminals.
It's quite telling that this is just the kind of shit we like over here.

>>84277628
>calls me a 'degenerate' and then tells ME that I'm parroting opinions
Okay laddy.

>>84277670
That's the problem with being asked to make a list of shows you approve of. Pander to the board and you're memecore, anything else and it's trash.

I stand by that anime has a lot of ground to tread and the west has that to offer.

>>84271183
i love korean animations

>>84277768
>I stand by that anime has a lot of ground to tread and the west has that to offer.
Please no.

>>84277768
>muh 90's edgy animu
>defending a radio sitcom like Archer
Jesus Christ.

>>84277851
>>84277790
Not an argument.

>>84277768
You like game of thrones brah?

>>84277880
No, GoT is a soap opera with swords.

Daily reminder that if it's not animated on at least 2s you avoid it.

Avoid this.

>>84277864
I don't need an "argument" to tell you to fuck off. Keep your Western shit contained in the West.

>>84277864
>animu sucks
Also not an argument.

We don't care, we're just appalled by yer exceptionally shit taste.

>>84277906
Why should something be avoided because it's not animated on twos?

>>84277906
Sakuga whore pls

>>84277928
A sakuga fan would never say that everything has to be on twos or better

>>84277927
Because Pinocchio is the greatest animation of all time and you can only watch Disney's watered down fairy tale trash if you want to truly appriciate good animation.

>>84277913
>animu sucks
I never said that you dumb nigger. I love anime.
>>84277906
Don't be retarded, the Asuka mass-production Eva fight is on 3s and 4s and it's fucking spectacular movement.
https://youtu.be/AYt0Y5rywFM?t=145

>>84277888
Go watch The Wire bro, it's right up yer alley, you can thug it up cause it's so real.

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>>84271183
>not wanting it to be ghetto as fuck
You'd have to have astronomically shit taste to not want Boondocks, the Sci-fi Western.

>>84276150
It was going to be cancelled regardless.

>>84277786
its japanese anon

>>84277979
You're confusing believable characters with a realistic world because you have autism and lack any capacity for nuanced discussion.

>>84277973
>90's kid posts the eva clip
Lmao, it's good and all nice timing, but it's also mostly rotoscoped as fuck and entirely off model becuase of it.
Evas look like literal cosplay dudes.

>>84277663
The reliance on catchphrases (danger zone, phrasing, etc) is such that I can't agree to that.

>>84278044
> it's also mostly rotoscoped as fuck
No, it's not, you're retarded.

>>84278028
That was an actual rec, based on you pref, you dumb nigger.

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>>84278027
No

>>84278069
It sounded very sincere. I most definitely can't wait to thug it up because it's so real.

>>84278044
It's not rotoscoped at all. The animation is by Mitsuo Iso who is amazing at limited animation and always animates on 3s+. You know nothing about animation.

>>84278044
It's not rotoscoped, and if it was rotoscoped then why would it be off-model?

>>84278059
There's even a clip showing the video refrences the animator used.
Not that Disney don't cheat the same way.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great scene, but it's stupidly fucked up that eva are emaciated looking hunched monsters with huge arching shoulders in the show and for the movie it's a guy in tights.

>>84278122
>>84278132

>>84278132
There's a huge difference between referencing and rotoscoping.

>>84278091
Are you serious, you've never heard of The Wire.
Jesus Christ, fucking millienal scum, seriously.

>>84278132
So we've established that great animation does not have to be on 2s and we can stop moving the goalposts now.

>>84278168
Of course I've heard of The Wire.

>>84278152
This is true, refs are cheaper.
Rotoscoping actually cost money back then for all the projection equipment, nips couldn't afford that shit.
Much cheaper to just watch the video clip over and over and copy it.

>>84278187
Yo, how's it going, Famicom? Having a good day?

You fuckers been watching the new Berserk or what?

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>>84278262
Yeah its pretty bad

>>84278187
Full animation on twos for 20 minute episodes with the drawing quality and animation complexity of anime is impossible. Even on threes is impossible.

Anime could already increase its framerate by reducing the quality of the drawings, but they've chosen not to do that because they value detail over framerate. And animation is not just about the framerate. If it was then you should always go for stick figures because that gives you the most frames.

>>84278254
People who think like this are the ones who need help.
There are 12 principles of animation from Ollie Johnson and Frank Thomas, two of the 9 old men
1. Squash and stretch
2. Anticipation
3. Staging
4.Straight ahead and pose to pose
5. Follow through and overlapping
6. Ease in Ease out
7.Arc
8. Secondary Action
9. Timing
10. Exaggeration
11. Solid Drawing
12. Appeal
Please note that "Frame count" is not on that list
if it looks appealing and is written well, why should others ignore it?

>another korean animation sod show
Fuck off with this garbage.

>>84278399
It's animated by a Japanese studio.

>>84278430
Source?

>>84278455
Their Kickstarter.

I could also tell just by the animation that it's Japanese, or almost certainly Japanese.

>>84278354
>>84278382
>Famicom gets told
>vanishes
Typical.

>>84278354
The 90s did it ALL THE TIME, at lease in western projects.

It can be done.
>>84278382
Theres more rules then that, but those are the biggest ones.

>>84278495
Yeah apparently it is.
I initially thought it was another Studio Mir shitshow until I saw the video. Looks pretty good.

>>84277572
Oh shit, now I can't unsee.

>>84278536
It's does look good, but it's cheap.

>>84278523
It can't be done. Anime productions are already down to the wire. They can have rushed or unfinished animation, episodes can be delivered to the station hours before the deadline, and in worst cases episodes are aired in a blatantly unfinished state or get pushed back.

>>84277906
Do you know anything about animation at all?

>>84278598
Ghibli, Chizu and Colorido will like to have a word with you.

>>84277589
>Lewds when???
2nd this

>>84278557
I don't think any anime funded through Kickstarter will look exceptionally good.

>>84278656
LWA2 will like to have a word with you.

>>84278517
I'm impressed, he is so autistic

>>84278672
it was already made, they just wanted finishing funds and got enough for a sequel.

>>84278730
He's been peddling the same incoherent shit for YEARS.

>>84278262
Yes. Literally was set up to perfect or rather pretty fucking good. Then they shit the bed so wholly it is amazing. For those who don't know they are using that God awful 3d animation

>>84278652
And? It's a great animation but that doesn't mean it's frame count is the soul reason for its greatest.

>>84278741
Isn't it going to be a full anime now?

>>84278755
Greatness. Phone auto corrected

>>84278755
No, but it's part of it.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3f26u0
>>84278787
Net series yes, Netflix is funding it.

>>84278741
The KS was for extending the length.

>>84278750
>He thinks Animaniacs's animation is even comparable to Ghibli in how much skill and effort is required
Some of the only actually decent animation I've seen from Animaniacs is the opening and Yakko's World. Most of it is wobbly garbage.
holy kek

>famicom getting banned again
Glorious scenes.

>>84278854
He might be a retard but why did he get banned?
Just for having shit opinions? I'm not familiar with this Famicom guy.

>>84271588
>>84271751
>>84271883

the girl looks boring as a white character to be honest.


Happy for Leshan Thomas and even if this won't get picked up he will still have work for the day so over all this is pretty exciting.

>>84278879
Ban evasion I guess.

His posts derail threads massively. That might be why.

>>84278879
>>84278915
His presence prevents the process of animation from being reasonably discussed around here.

>>84278879
He keeps obsessively going on and on about the same few things (TMS, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Hamtaro), but the real problem is he doesn't listen to anything anyone tells him. He also always denies being Famicom when people spot him, despite how obvious he is.

>>84278879
aggravating autism

>>84271183
OK, cut the shit, what the deal with tis.
So this Lesean dude cobbled up enough cash to get a (nip animated) trailer made and want to Kickstart for the show??

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Oh lawdy lawdy, PORN WHEN?

>>84278985
>wang
>ok
toplele

>>84278985
>He has nothing top do with this, please seek help.
This is a classic Famicom line, FYI.

>>84278879
He's a massive autist that worships TMS, Tiny Toons and Hamtaro that regularly posts about his insane industry fanfiction/conspiracy theories, regardless of how many people call him out or debunk his bullshit. This has been going on for years and he hasn't changed a bit.

>>84271183
why the main character a ganguro?

>>84278326

It's pretty good, don't listen to this anon.

>>84278894
spotted the sjw.

>>84279092

its pretty bad, don't listen to this anon.

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is it confirmed to be 10 min long?

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>>84279066
they Anime Africans, yo

>>84279106
here's your (you)

If this hasn't gotten picked up by now, I doubt it ever will. However SDCC is coming up, so maybe then.

>>84279066
the same reason why there's redhead asian people in anime.

>>84279195
well little witch academia didn't get picked up even after 2 episodes only now we are getting a full season of it.

>>84271588
Make the girl brown and the guy white man.

>>84278894
>the girl looks boring as a white character to be honest.

She looks objectively better and you know it.

>>84271183
ayyo why the main protag gotta be black? why can't mexicans or latinos ever get representation huh?

you fuckers are bigots . all of you are bigots.

>>84276891
>>84277000
>>84277028

These all look like shit.

>>84278523
Exactly. They are the biggest ones for a reason and everything else is gravy.

>>84271476
>The only scifi western I know is Trigun
get out of here you retard.

>>84279389
anon I swear to you I'm not lying the girl looks better black then white, you have to redraw her and not do a shitty edit to convince me.

The black guys scars looks a lot better when he's white at least.

>>84279389
objectively, she looks generic and shit

>>84279295
LWA didn't get "picked up," as such. Trigger is forming a production committee with other companies (by all reason, since it's their own series). When they made LWA they only had Inferno Cop under their belt, but now they're much better established and LWA has become a proven success.

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>Therefore I wish Leshan worked on urbance instead of cannon buster.

I just want more good looking black techno people to fight the system and fuck each other

>>84279545
Huh didn't know that.

So then this actually looks bleak for cannon buster?

to be honest the show doens't even have to be good it could easily just be good animated and fill the void of action adventure shows like korra and yeah korra.

>>84279656
I think if American networks were interested in doing shows like Cannon Busters they would already be doing them.

>>84279656
>>84279545
original LWA was also government funded as an animator training initiative.

>>84279759
US is only interested in Nick toon for kids and adult family sitcoms.
Most Americans see nip attempt at serious/action animation cringey and embarrassing as shit and useful only as shameful fap material.

>>84277000
my first crush....

>>84279449
you shut the fuck up right now . shut the fuck up!!!!!

>>84279774
yeah I know that (that's how we got Death Billiards) but thought this was similar to how episode 2 went with Kickstarter and all.

>>84279431
please responde!!

>>84271183
C-could Spike Spiegel be still alive?

>backers only
What did they mean by this?

>>84271183
>LeSean's hollering about representation of blacks in the media results in characters that look and sound black

For once his fucking obnoxious preaching lead to something worthwhile. The guy is mad talented but a real nuisance. Hopefully this'll be good, it'd be cool if Toonami picked it up for a single season.

>>84279916
>What did they mean by this?

They mean it'll be up to download/re-uploaded to Youtube/Vimeo/Dailmotion in a matter of hours after release.

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>>84273666
It's Trigun more than anything, Satan

>>84277733
Only little girl there is Ai.

>>84277760
Probably that.

>>84278815
>Netflix is funding it
No it is not. It will show in japan TV

>>84271672
They are like reverse SJWs

>>84279610
ayy lmao urbance was shit m8

>>84279545
Expect not in japan for some reason.

I would story time the comic but i am too lazy to scan it all. But the story was very reminiscent of the Wizard of Oz in a way.

>>84280434
do you think the story is worth a show anon?

>>84272474
Has Black people in it=Ghetto. You should know how this works by now. I saw this same hate and Jealousy when Felipe Smith got a Manga Published in Japan. Haters and all that

>>84271183

>blonde niggress

dropped

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>>84271183
That actually looks rather good, even the voices seem good.

Is it made by one person or a small team? Because if so that's already impressive.

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>>84280370
yes it was it was hot garbage but it was the fault of bad production animation and voice acting.

just imagining the cannon buster shows production into urbance. fuck man at least cannon buster have a comic while urbance only have bts books..

>>84280515
no more like a real team with a relative small budget (10 min episode if If the other anon wasn't lying) it's impressive as fuck to be honest. especially coming from one guys passion project.

>>84275800
They can't self insert in Black characters. It's why nearly every adaption of Earthsea ( all two of them) has White people when the characters were not White in the books. It's why they believe anime characters are white and believe that characters in ATLA were White.

>>84277247
What exactly is so "Ratchet" about it, you people still haven't explained this.

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>>84271883

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>>84280619
>They can't self insert in Black characters.
and that's why /a/'s favorite manga right now is berserk. It's just so easy to self-insert themselves into guts.

>>84271838
its a knee jerk reaction to all the exposure to sjw shittery.

>>84277589
It's the Internet. I'd give it about a week after release.

>>84271183
im.. rather impressed.

but why whites bad guys? i dont get it.

also, why no latinos in cartoons yet? im waiting....

Is this the american Cowboy Bebop?

>>84271476
>Implying Trigun is at all unique
There have been shows, pulp magazines, comics, films and novels that did space-western way before the manga/anime even considered it. Fuck off with your originality and uniqueness. Japan didn't invent space-western, and they certainty won't be the last.

>>84280713
KEK

>>84280474
From what i saw in the first two issues, it could easily be a 26 episode series, based on what they were going for.

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>>84280829
More like The Wiz, Meets TTGL, meets a western, meets a road movie

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>>84281043

>>84280986
>vowing to never unsheathe his sword again
I've got no beef with the character yet, but the thing I don't get about these 'that man is dead, won't use his weapon' types is why not just throw your goddamn piece in the lake and move on.

Unless it's like Logan where it's glued inside you and would just regenerate or it's handed down it just don't make sense. And for that last one even there they could just leave it in a safe place or a memorial or whatever. It's like a recovering alcoholic walking around with a bottle of jack all day.You're just asking for it.

>>84280970
It looks good.
I mean, it is stylish and heavily inspired by blaxplotation.

I can't understand the 'blegh, everyone is a nigger' comments, there are a lot of weeb faggots that can easily watch anime without being asian.

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>>84281068

>>84280881
It doesn't matter who invented the genre, people should only rightfully associate it with works that popularized it. Anime popularized space westerns, therefore its associated with it more than any other medium. It's like getting mad when people say Iron Man didn't invent powered armor and some stupid novel involving retarded bugs did it first. Who cares? Everybody thinks of Iron Man when they think of futuristic armor, therefore it belongs to Iron Man.

>>84271183
g-guys im
scared.

im self declared racist... was gonna come in here saying the typical "WE WUZ ANIME N SHIET" thing but after watching the trailer...

im already falling in love with it. the character designs, the voices, the comcept, the setting, the design...

w-whatsgoing on?am i changing?

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>>84281111

>>84281111
I'm so confused why the leading 2 is so bad compared to every character shown so far

Also why not give the Sam red brown lips instead. That's a lot more pleasing to the eyes

I really like the "Robo loli's voice!

>>84281158
>im self declared racist

You weren't actually a racist, you're just one of many edgy teens trying to fit into the alt-right "comedy" scene /pol/ popularized as of late and you're trying to still pull that shit despite maybe genuinely enjoying something that doesn't match to those sensibilities.

Cuck.

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>>84281180
He actually changed Sam's look a lot since the comic version. I liked her original look best. Maybe it didn't translate well to animation?

>>84281158
Embrace it, anon. You can still hate ignorant niggers, but there's no reason to hate black people who aren't destructive pieces of shit. 'Sides, you should really hate the worst of every race and love the best of every race, it's simply more logical and practical.

>>84281242
Yeah I remember that picture in color.
Do you have a better picture of Sam?

And wasn't Phillip the kid a lot lighter in comic?

>>84281258
Exactly. I can still loathe the racist cracker, white bread, right wing hick redneck meth addicted , mid west red state piece of shit, without hating all Whites.

>>84281077
People just trying to hard to be edgy because they don't know the difference between racial humor/racist jokes and actually being racist. They think there's some actual board culture of hating minorities they have to conform to to prove how totally oldfag anon they are when really they're just taking memes too seriously and not even being funny.

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>>84281312

>>84281316
Exactly.

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>>84281163

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>>84281258
>>84281316


why call stupid black people niggers, though? why not just stupid people.

and it's not to be kind to stupid people more like making it easier for yourself when actually meeting people that are offended by you using racist slurs.

sam is so cute in the comics. sucks her design went from this to a typical princess design.

>>84281444
link to torrent of comics? ive never heard of this before.

>>84281316
hmmm
someone call reddit one of their faggot retard liberals got loose again

>>84281519
can't anyone storyboard it instead?

I would much rather see if people's opinion on the pilot show changes after reading the comic.

>>84271232
So, it'll be Afro Samurai Western.

>>84281537
Welp, looks like this faggot just got triggered. You people are good at dishing out insults, not so much at taking them

>>84281584
Sure. Except for the part where it's anything like Afro Samurai.

>>84281158
fun fact racists and anyone who dislikes foeriegnors are actually poeple who are so financially insecure , everything is perceived as a threat. Contrary to what libtards say, they aren't bad poeple nor are they evil sadists. no, they are ordinary poeple struggling with stress and fear.

>>84281598
>good at dishing out insults,

Reddit liberal is copy paste quality insult, though. it's a meme that literally means nothing when there are right wing Reddit boards that's quite popular.

>>84281598
>you poeple

what color?

Reverse-SJWs are real. Even the mere presence of black people or women is triggering to them.

>>84281560
*storytime

And nah, fans of the comic/people already casually interested in the series will just have their hype reinforced while edgy /pol/ cucks will still make blackface jokes. Not much will change but at least a storytime will be made, I guess.

>>84281649
>"w-we're not really the bad guys, see?"

Fuck off to your containment board already.

>>84281686
They've been real for a long time, anon.

>>84281464
Because sadly unlike Whites black cannot be judged as individuals on their own merits. Just like this show can't be judged based on it's own merits here, since Black people are in it that's all people can really focus on. Shame but it is what it is.

If this is an adaptation of an American property, produced by the same creator, and assumedly animated with all intentions to air in English....

Then why the fuck is the syncing off so much?

>>84280986
>9ine

There better be joke where at least one person refers to him as Nineine, because otherwise that shit is retarded. It's not cool, it's not ghetto, it's no thuggy or gangsta or whatever they think it is. It's just plain retarded.

>>84281464
This is fucking 4chan. I'm not racist but I'm not going to be told certain words are off limits to me ether. Fuck off back to Tumblr.

>>84281732
People politicize everything, though. When a show has an all white cast you better believe there are minorities throwing a fit over it and not taking it on it's own merits. It's the same shit.

I don't know why people are so negative. I'm looking forward to it. Good on Lesean Thomas for even getting the funding, I'd like to see it get picked up. It interests me more than most of the anime that's come out this season that's for sure.

>>84281807
What a load of shit, there have been shows with all White casts for ages and Minorities watched them like anything else

>>84281723
im not from /pol/ you hate filled cuck.