Was she really a hated mary sue back then?
No wonder Hussie created Vriska to piss us off and making fun of Jade.
>>84192201
There's a reason Vriska is just a grey Jade with horns.
>>84192228
Jade's personality was being upbeat/cute/really very little actual personality.
Vriska's personality is just being awful.
>>84192236
Nice, seen a lot of HS cosplays?
>>84192201
Much better. If you retards can't even pretend to make good threads, you don't deserve to exist.
>>84192252
You got TROLLED.
>>84192252
>>84192367
Also, I think he just meant design-wise.
>>84192393
Yeah, I did.
>>84192236
Tell her to tell Hussie to get the fuck out of his "self-aware" cult of personality actually make good shit again.
But then again she's pretty much the reason he *is* what he is today...
>>84192399
Then you're a silly willy, feferi is way closer design wise than vriska is to jade
>>84192278
Only 2 so far
>>84192201
is there any female character in homestuck who hasn't been called a mary sue at some point
>>84192438
*any character
>>84192423
Homosuck is dead
>>84192438
Rose
Raid-proof poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/10640782
>>84192236
Nah, if anything I pity you.
>>84192201
my friend started the comic and hated her and thought she was a total mary sue. id never thought about her like that even once.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10640836
I don't like Jade because people who are exuberant and cheerful all the time just drain the life out of me.
>>84192485
She has a lot of useful skills and a very nice personality without the crippling flaws that people with useful skills usually have (like Dirk.) I don't think that makes her a Sue, I just think that the story never touched on her more fucked up side.
>>84192438
Mom Lalonde?any of the less significant alphas?
>>84192236
Did she actually say anything? (Take a picture of it, I want to see)
>>84192438
>>84192447
Off the top of my head:
Jane
Jake
Tavros
Karkat (?)
Nepeta
Eridan (?)
WV
>>84192409
>But then again she's pretty much the reason he *is* what he is today...
Come on now, that's just a meme.
>>84192485
>>84192520
the never touching on the 'more fucked up side' did seem a little odd to me when i first read homestuck, like, are we just to expect that jade isn't bothered AT ALL by her isolation and lack of face-to-face human contact?
all homestuck characters are exaggerated comedy characters so they all do absurd impossible shit on the reg. can you even be a mary sue in a joke comic?
>>84192553
I've seen all of these be called Mary Sues: John.
Karkat.
Dave.
Gamzee.
Jake.
Dirk.
It's not a female-exclusive "issue".
>>84192438
Nepeta? Feferi? I mean I can't imagine any of the minor trolls would be sue material given they're so irrelevant. If we're going further than irrelevance then the White Queen wasn't sue material, certainly not in the presence of PM who I've seen people argue as being a sue.
>>84192581
sure because they arent real people and they dont have real problems. theyre joke people and they have joke problems, and they stayed that way until some way through part 3
>>84192553
Karkat is a fucking mary sue, because everyone tolerates his tsundere personality.
>>84192584
The ultimate meme is people who take this shit seriously
>>84192553
oh right, jane. i always forget about jane. can't imagine why lol
>>84192612
that's fair. i really need to rereact the first few acts actually, i always forget how funny they are
>>84192585
>>84192619
Also Sollux.
>Never once been called a Mary Sue
>Still had one of the best arc payoffs in the comic compared to the rest of the cast
WE WIN AGAIN TAVROSBROS
>>84192653
*reread, whoops
>>84192658
did people actually make an ost for Cool and New?
>>84192681
yes, o-approved
>>84192681
Live why you still have your name on? Serious question.
>>84192692
All women are attention-whores.
>>84192519
But Jade is exuberant and cheerful to cover up deep seated anger issues and a prolonged sense of loneliness
>>84192806
>^2
>>84192236
Not really. Piggy's greatest relevancy now is latching onto Hussie like a leech
>>84192848
iggy would never...
>>84192870
but she did
with
FOLDS and SWEAT
>>84192870
She already did
The fact is she's just not funny. She's got the same "ironic" humor shtick that every tumblr bitch to the point where it seems like they're mass produced in some chinese factory somewhere.
>>84192819
not to mention some despair at knowing she was going to die young
>>84192902
"ahahaha when dat boi sees no cheese on the pizza XD"
>>84192907
I think she sort of figured it out that that was her dreamself though
And being paranoid for years that a blue doll killed her grandpa
>>84192653
Early Homestuck is absolutely hilarious.
>>84192927
>>84192236
WHAT DID SHE TELL YOU ABOUT HIVESWAP
DONT HOLD OUT ON US ANGEL
>>84192870
Iggy Piggy has been a pseudoironic attention whore from day 1, and she's getting her daily fix by being the only available source of information about a silent internet celebrity's current status and work.
>mfw I learnt through a skype group that iggy comes here and shit talks herself just to get attention
>>84192967
I'm trying to find that comic where Jade sees the blue doll move and freaks out
But I can't find it
>>84193085
it's true. i recognize her in threads sometimes because she posts just like she tweets
>>84193085
>mfw you will never, ever post logs
>>84193069
Same difference, really.
>>84193086
I thought Eyes5 did that comic, but apparently not. I can't find it either.
>>84193085
this is completely believable
>>84193170
this will NEVER be the comic
>>84193230
Well yeah, John was only interested in blondes and there's no way Jade would miss up a chance to get davekisses
Well? Is it forbidden love?
>>84193085
no way man...she's such a good person...being an attention whore...you're just jealous of her success...
Close your eyes and visualize a world where Jade is the lesbian and Rose is the cockslutIt is a better world
>>84193290
Imagine a world where they're both cocksluts, and it's the best world.
>>84193308
no there must BE a lesbian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>84193290
Not really. Jade came off as more of the cocklover anyway, too happy not to be.
I love Trizza but I'm afraid she will be heavily influenced by piggy's typing style and mannerisms...basically her as a troll
>>84193290
>jade/kanay
>rose/dirk
eri did nothin wwrong
What there was a forth child?
>>84192236
>It's ok to be jealous
>
>>84193392
how could you forget about jane
she's THICC
>>84193392
No, Jade only had three kids
>>84193392
no you idiot there was five of them
john, rose, dave, roxy, and dirk
>>84193290
Rose would be literally the best female hoemstuck character
>>84193392
Yes, how could you miss the fourth protagonist of the comic, Vriska?
>>84193351
yes you're afraid of that and not all the hamfisted twitter memes and le pepe dat boi over 9000 shit that's more likely to be her """"character""""
>>84193409
>jade having anything less than twelve baies
>You will forever be associated with Jane.
>>84193351
She has certain mannerisms that make everybody upset.
>>84193436
One, two, three
>>84193430
i am weak to the memes
i just want her to be a meme spouting meenah
is that so bad
>>84193351
yes they both like shitty ancient memes
>>84193398
Two months
>>84193430
So, ipgd?
>>84193460
>is that so bad
yes actually
>>84193443
It's honestly the reverse, Jane is a shit Nanna that never amounted to anything interesting in the narrative.
post yfw you didnt back Hiveswap
>>84193443
Even Jane can't ruin Nanasprite.
>>84193486
This, exactly. Nana's conversation with FedoraFreak alone was greater than anything Jane ever did.
>>84193483
Oh...
>>84193507
>>84193510
it's ok she's still the best looking troll from that shitpile
i mean she's just a peixes clone but still
>>84193456
stop posting this hack's terrible art, please, god. i'd rather see gelasticat's art and that fat pink karkat with tits than this
how old are the kids in hiveswap?
is joey legal?
>>84193537
>i'd rather see gelasticat's art and that fat pink karkat with tits than this
The fuck you would
At least you can tell that character is supposed to be jade
>>84193537
What's wrong with it?
>>84193537
how sad that mindwipe used to be a staple yet now he somehow not only stagnated but got worse
>>84193537
Shut the fuck up ipgd
>>84192710
Can confirm
>>84193548
All the homestuck kids and trolls start at 13, so it's safe to assume the kids from hiveswap would be the same age.
>>84193537
Please, PoJ/Mindwipe has gotten incredibly mediocre but he's still better than every single fat hobbit pastel Karkat in the community.
>>84193552
don't reply to me
>>84193562
it was a bit of an exaggeration but it's just awkwardly drawn, with same-face out the ass and really weird, stiff looking characters
>>84193563
the only reason he was even popular was because he drew big tits, not because his art style was actually good
>>84193537
I agree. Angel's porn is 100 times hotter than this shit.
>mindwipe
>good
LOL
>>84193085
yes and i'm in a skype room with glub loki and angel and i request them to draw fat inflation art of yellow vriska
real fucking believable
Was she autistic?
>>84193570
>>84193626
no shes right
down with proper syntax
I just miss Bowman.
>>84193626
Probably.
>>84193619
That's like saying chaz is bad because she's commissioned to do horrible fetish porn
>>84193653
but chaz is bad
>>84193653
chaz was never that good desu
>>84193562
The borderline hyper tits and ass on all his girls make it look like his art is supposed to cater to 15 boys.
I know I'll get called Tumblr for this, but I didn't know he was a guy until now, but I'm not even surprised.
WHO IS PARADOX SPACE'S AWESOMEST EVIL DOER
>>84193646
I'm on the stream too
>>84193690
I think he's commissioned to do stuff like that.
INFLATE HERSELF
JUST LIKE A BALLOON
>>84193690
>his art is supposed to cater to 15 boys.
Who the fuck do you think is his target audience
>>84193697
Shut it Bonehead!
>>84193672
>>84193685
nah
>>84193706
what did he mean by this?
>>84193456
Can I get a source on this? Google reverse image search is giving me - and I shit you not - "Best guess for this image: line art."
Real insightful there, Google. Keep up the good work.
>>84193707
>>84193715
Then that's unfortunate. Does anyone have any examples of more realistically proportioned works of his?
>>84192201
Vriska's not a Mary Sue, she's a Munchkin and OP character. She's too horrible a person to be a Sue and the end shit doesn't erase that. A Sue is loved by one and all from the start, selfless, kind and perfect.
>>84193709
inflation is so stupid
THAT'S NOT EVEN REAL FAT
>>84193632
>>84193570
Oh oh
Do one with the fat pink Karkats and Daves
>>84193738
It's a comic
>>84193626
Only shitposters type in lowercase.
http://mspfanventures.com/?s=367
cool and new webcomic is fucking FINISHED
>>84193770
no... it can't be true...
>>84193760
Dave getting Jade pregnant would have been a better ending to Homestuck
>>84193626
YeAh man,,,, fu.ck !Grammer (
>>84193744
Different kinds of Sues, my man.
Boy sure is HOMESTUCK in here
Did Ms.Paint serve any part in the story other than the name pun? Did she accomplish anything at all?
>>84193819
Gay.
>>84193842
what's with the name?
>>84193842
gave some decent carapace porn
>>84193707
He's commissioned to have really bad anatomy? Boob size aside, look at this. People post this all the time.
Jade looks like she's missing half of her torso and has a broken spine. How the fuck does her ass stick up like that? It's bad.
>>84193842
she was there to please Hussie's cuck-loving numale friends
>>84193881
>He's commissioned to have really bad anatomy?
youd be suprise
>>84193881
Jade swimming like a dog is cute
>>84193881
That Jade thing doesn't look too off. I've seen stuff like that in real life.
>>84193881
it's porn, my man
people jerk off to worse shit
>>84193842
Nah. You can see her in the background of a few panels and flashes, and on the character select screens before they were finished, but that's about it.
DEMOGRAPHICS CHECK
http://www.strawpoll.me/10641568
http://www.strawpoll.me/10641568
>>84193918
>>84193924
>>84193931
Y'all have such low standards. Ah well.
Found this normal looking pic. It's fine but nothing noteworthy.
>>84193881
feferi...i love aradia a lot but... mindwipe's pics where he has both ara and fef i find myself looking at fef more
am i unfaithful...or can mindwipe not fucking draw aradia like a mongoloid fat bitch jesus christ
>>84193918
Jade in general is cute, it's her role in the story
>>84193842
her uselessness was meant to symbolize the fact that hussie had actually switched to photoshop ages ago
in a sense, she is the biggest cuck in homestuck
>>84193934
>and on the character select screens before they were finished, but that's about it.
Neat, was there anything else like that that archive readers wouldn't see anymore?
Post underrated characters of HS
>>84193934
>people say act 6 wasn't ghostwritten when the author's girlfriend is drawing it after the author is dead in-comic
>>84193944
you caught me
>>84193957
>No Dersite carapacian named Adobe Photoshop
SHAKING MY HEAD
>>84193987
Aranea is already an overrated joke
>>84193987
always and foreverreminder Bec Noir wasnt brought to justice
>>84193987
If you ever do a reread of Act 6 she jumps to your #1 most hated list.
>>84193953
he's actually pretty terrible with megidos now that i think about it
his peixes are top notch though
>>84194046
I like his Lalondes
>>84194080
Christ, look at that face.
>>84194080
and his jade
>>84193982
Dancing Hussies
>>84194038
>>84193819
ABORT
ABORT
>>84193987
>>84194046
Kylee and Surnmfang's Peixes though...
>>84193750
>>84194124
Speaking of favorite character depictions reminded me. Which artist did those very skinny looking, stylized Vriskas? They drew a lot of Vriska/Tavros shit, some art of her in the fairy dress. Their style was very sketchy. That was by far my favorite depiction of Vriska (her in the Vrisky Business Paradox Space comic comes close as a second)
>>84193982
Well theres the infamous CAUCASIAN that caused an outrage in the fandom, so it got changed to peachy
Also some music in some of the flashes got changed because Bill Bolin flipped out
Heres the link to a playlist of the flashes with the old music (copy-paste the url, clicking [embed] only plays the first video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WxeWeW6Cjo&list=PLLupoTfJui-Ppr8gCdofw7R0OQ35atx5k&index=1
>>84194139
Amazing
Things to look forward to:
VN anon release date
10/25
Things to look "forward" to:
Epilogue
Hiveswap
Are we finally dead? This list is a lot shorter than last time
>>84194139
>TavrosxKanaya
Thats unusual.
>>84194152
That the comic where tav gives vriska a back massage so well she orgasms? Where vris is super twiggy?
>>84194161
Peachy was a dumb punchline, it should have been nutty imo
>>84194139
>>84193570
I feel like this one is expoitable but I can't think of anything funny for it
>>84194210
that's karkatxtavros
>>84194215
I don't know about the massage thing, maybe, but yeah, she's pretty thin looking.
>>84194210
Look more closely
>>84194209
VN of what
>>84193709
I don't believe andrew is outsourcing the epilogue with dobson
-sniff-
>>84194080
dreamworks presents
>>84194115
WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN
>>84193982
when john entered the medium at the end of act 1 and WV gave him commands his suggestion box was 'destroyed' and linked instead to a picture of the crater where his house was that updated over time to fill up with sand and grow the white tree PM found. the same pictures got used as part of the act 2 EOA animation.
>>84194258
>>84194209
what about
homestuck 2.0 :^)
>>84194116
>>84194215
>nutty
>>84194161
>moon bouncing to the beat
gets me every time
however as much as i love bill's tracks that flash is the only one i prefer the replacement with dead shuffle off of the midnight crew. it just fits REALLY well.
welp, time to mate
>>84194310
And the Homestuck TV show
>>84194249
Are you the one that commissioned AraJohn from Ikimaru?
>>84194363
no...link?
>>84192236
should have spit on her face.
then recoiled in disgust when she subsequently licked it off
>>84194234
Here we fucking go god damn
>>84194263
huh, neat
>>84194329
Jake's Terrible Peanut Allergy
>>84194263
fuck i miss little things like this
>>84193944
Well this is embarrassing so far.
>>84193982
waiting for this god damn thing to fill up between september and when cascade dropped.
>>84194389
Thanks
the best Vriska
w-what is karkat doing to aradia???
>>84194398
>36%-68% aren't autistic
Surprising.
>>84194435
more importantly: can you blame him?
>>84194433
artist is http://vanripper.deviantart.com/gallery/
btw
>>84194370
She hasn't finished it yet.
>>84194435
NO
ARADIA
GET AWAY
HE'S CONTAGIOUS
>>84194478
It's too late....
Aradia's a weenie now
>>84194336
The only good replacement tracks are the ones that were composed specifically to sync up with the Flash, like John sleeping or the Strider final strife round.
Man this assholes HS folder is garbage, can barely go 3 pieces of fanart with porn
I need to sort this shit
>>84194430
I do not envy that wait
>>84194433
Np senpai
>>84194491
d0nt bully me!!!
>>84194342
Good luck and take some condoms from the jar by the door!
>>84194519
Too late, jade and kanaya poked holes in all of them
>>84194344
Why do you always cut out that one?
>>84194540
There is no Pann
>>84194536
Those Holes Were Already There
They Are For
Um
Breathing
>>84194540
Is pann dave's kid?
>>84194519
My mom did this when I was in high school. Embarrassing as shit when my date happened to be the one picking me up.
>>84194455
>>84194478
>>84194556
Who's Pann?
>>84194495
[S] Dave: Strife! is hard because i fucking love contention
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-aSKAIDj0
WE LOVE FINE
RESTOCK WHEN
PLEASE
>>84194540
Because it's shit, moreso than the rest, and should be eliminated from the timeline, with all records of it stripped
>>84194556
I don't remember anymore. I *think* this fanart is from the era where we didn't even know all the trolls, just the 4.
>>84194561
this has to be an edit
i find it hard to believe she would ever do that
>>84194561
CAUTION CAUTION
WE HAVE A LEVEL 5 ALERT
NUKE THE PLANET
>>84194536
When will their reign of terror end
>>84194578
kEEP, uH, tELLING YOURSELF THAT, kID,
>>84194618
>has to mind control jade because otherwise there's no way she'd touch his crippled dick
>>84194578
Yeah okay I can kind of agree with that, eliminating him makes the whole set at least make some sense
>>84194577
Don't waste your money. The cards are shit quality.
>>84194578
>>84194618
>jade/tavros
>>84194688
Exactly why it was taken out
>>84194688
reminder gcatavros x jade will be end game
>>84194568
Yeah, it's gard to beat a good Bolin track. I just wonder why Hussie gave a shit enough to get new songs that synch up to some of the flashes, and others he just threw random shit in (like the Beginning of Something Really Excellent not really fitting with its Flash and clearly lasts longer than the video).
Discuss.
This is a sexuality genetics chart.
>>84194740
nice
>>84194740
>>84194777
Whoopsies
It is new and improved
>>84194688
>unabashedly liking incest
>>84194839
if you stopped namefagging you'd stop getting imposters
you aren't liveblogging anymore dude
>>84194826
>lots
What's that even supposed to mean
>>84194878
lots of kids, too many to count
those are descriptions of their child's sexualities
>>84194839
>>84194832
Why the fuck do you shit up the thread with this shit
What the fuck are you going to do when they get a fucking trip
Just fucking filter them reddit christ
>>84194878
Too many kids to accurately gauge all the sexuality
>MN9
What happens to HiveSwap Now /co/?
>>84194578
Anon, they ALL are, it's literally no different in quality.
>>84194932
The actual dev team compared it to the mess that was broken age, what do you think happens
>>84194876
>>84194899
Stop replying to the obvious shitposters m8s
Things that improved over time:
I really like how the new imperial drones look, a lot sexier than the old implied design
>>84194932
death
>>84194954
Holy shit amazing
Get a life desu
>>84194960
I always thought that the pail drones were just different models than the Condesce's drones. Like, one is just for cum-collecting and the other is for full on purging
Liveblogger you need a tripcode so people stop pretending to be you
>>84194560
Yeah, those wacky condom-jar moms, I tell you...
>>84194965
>>84194992
Joey wants to be a cum collecting drone.
>>84195004
You think dad will give John condoms
Can we get someone to replace this with Hussie, and or The Odd Gentlemen
>>84195002
>says the retard who refuses to filter the name
>>84194948
What's Broken Age and how did it get such a dogshit name?
>>84195014
No but Rose will. To both of them.
>>84195022
Tim Schafer's kickstarter adventure game
It a bland and frustrating 6/10
This doesn't bode well for Hiveswap
>>84195041
and jade, as head of breeding duties, will take them away
>>84194826
I refuse to think that Rose is 100% gay.
>>84195014
He might give them, but John would never ask.
>>84195018
i guarantee you it's just that guy who caused classpect and me to get trips because he wouldn't quit it
>>84195109
I remember when I sniped this request from someone
Those were the days
I
FIXED
EVERYTHIIIIIIIING!!!!!!!!
YOU'RE FUCKING WELCOME
>>84195109
>implying Roxy wouldn't be successful in pressuring John into drugs and drinks
>>84195218
thank y0u vriska.
now can you give aradia back please?
>>84195101
yeah there are no canon statements on her not liking boys, and theres no reason to think that she isnt bi like dave since sexuality is somehow genetic in this universe.
>>84195219
I wonder if drinking is gonna be straight up taboo in the new world considering rose and roxy
>>84195218
*GRABS SHOTGUN*
YOU DIDN'T FIX
THIS
>>84195010
/r/'ing Condy imprisoning and converting Joey along with other trolls into cum collecting pail-drones, oldschool dr. robotnik style
>>84195280
Hussie's gay singularity meme makes me rage so hard.
>>84194960
I wonder how long ago and IF Hussie even designed this
It looks so kickass, im kinda doubting he could even come up with something this cool today
>>84195287
karkat is a weiny like Tavros
There's no help for that it's terminal
>>84195296
thats p much the end of hiveswap
>>84195314
It feels like something piggy pushed, considering even at the end he didnt' believe it
>>84195287
karkat no! she has him hostage!
>>84195219
wait I got a more fitting image
>>84195333
Draw us a dog dick
>>84195319
I miss when he did cool stuff like that. Remember his Imperial Tyranny, the urrgo judge thingy mindfang fought?
What the hell was up with that
>>84195334
It just reeks of "ahahaha le ironic sjw meme except its not really ironic and we genuinely mean it but its also a joke".
>>84195287
Don't do it, Karkat, you have so much to live for!
>>84195286
rose will probably relapse tbch
>>84195323
Not it's not, weenies don't go out Kurt Cobain style like that Karkat poster wants to.
>>84193507
I'm glad I didn't back it because then my money would have just gone up in smoke with the rest and I'd probably be more upset. But I still want it to come out, it's the only thing to cling onto at this point.
>>84195333
fake ipdg you better not be lying or my dick will shrivel up so badly
>>84195368
>Someone sends Jane "cake farts."
>>84195368
what a cute jane
>>84195368
what does the blue thing represent in jane's shirt?
>>84195109
>>84195219
>>84195341
Roxygen is shit. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
>>84195218
Do people seriously believe this meme? All Vriska did was help Rose solve her drinking problem by bullying her about it. I cannot think of a single other thing she did that could be construed as helpful.
>Inb4 she made Dave gay
>B-but she cockblocked gamzee and fixed terezi
I think that was just an odd circumstance. Not being depressed about Karkat or Dave would've done the same.
>>84195416
problem sleuth monster
Each dark pocket, in time, will be filled.
>>84195429
>I cannot think of a single other thing she did that could be construed as helpful
The fact that her being there stopped GO from happening?
>>84195429
Without her they were literally all going to die, we've seen it happen.
>>84195456
GO only happened because of Serket 2:0 Bookworm Boogaloo
In fact that entire problem was actually solved by REMOVING a Serket from the equation.
>>84195429
Because without Vriska's presence none of those awful things happen
Vriska's clearly the catalyst, it's fucking stupid.
>>84195425
I know, it's so problematic. And HET! It's forced, and disgustingly rapey.
>>84192674
Here's your favorite character's reward!
>>84195429
>All Vriska did was help Rose solve her drinking problem by bullying her about it.
Yep becasue that in and of itself is totally okay. I mean fuck we sure as shit didn't already see Rose hit rock bottom with terezi and then finally start to rebound on her own, but nah its thanks to vriska and hussie not understanding how alcoholism works that bully just fucking fixes it
>>84193507
Even if I didn't care about my own money it seemed wrong on a fundamental level to give money to someone for a thing they were hiding every aspect of including how actually related to Homestuck it might be. The whole thing didn't just seem like an ordinary kind of bad deal, it looked dishonest. He withheld the information he already knew about what he wanted to do, specifically because it would have got him less money to say so. It's not lying but it is deceptive.
>>84195439
>>84195521
what about beautifully rapey
>>84195546
i'm thinking hussie just stopped caring and hammered what was left of the story into an act 7-shaped hole to just end it on time
>>84195564
damara...no
>>84195546
that's why she will relapse now that the bully is gone
I can't believe this motherfucker was holding out on all this quality dersecest
>>84195572
It was a mistake, he should have taken more time to end it right
All he had to do was say 'I had a plan, but the plan looks like shit, I want to do right by you guys so it'll be a little longer'
Why the fuck do people just refuse to communicate
A delayed game can be made good, a bad game that ships will always be bad or whatever
>>84195547
Yeah, this. I was close to donating but with the conspicuous lack of details I couldn't justify it.
How do you know a character is a weenie?
>>84195487
Even all the evil Jade and Jane stuff was stopped by her. She also made the plans for everyone, that's a tad helpful. Which I'm fucking pissed about, remove Vriska.
>>84195637
haha liveblogger! youve got it, the problem with homestuck is he didnt take enough time on the ending!!! brilliant!!
Remember me, Karkat? When I killed your plot relevance, I talkedJ8STLIKETHIIIIIIIIS!
why is there no art of sad alive aradia or crying alive aradia
why is there no art of alive aradia being lovey
>>84195676
And then John 'Vriska is to dangerous to give the rin- oh wait no Vriska I am so happy you're here and alive and insulting my uncle-grandpa' Egbert
>>84195521
RoseJohn > something with zero dynamic or bantz and is just "oh wow they're cute, i guess".
>>84195704
>people deny she's a sue even after that
>>84195676
>>84195704
why couldn't rose be the plan person, or, god forbid, everyone do their part to come up with a plan
>>84192658
>/r/homestuck
>>>/out/
>>84195725
/co/ is a sjw haven with nazi mods
and people wonder why this entire board is one of the most slow media and entertainment boards
>>84195738
I miss Rose and John's bantz
Why did they have to die just because the ship was sunk? Why couldn't they have stayed close friends with a great dynamic?
>>84195763
>one of the most slow media and entertainment boards
Is this a bad thing
>>84195768
John literally thought about marrying Rose. After the 3 year journey? LOL, nah.
>>84195771
yes
>>84195738
Romance with bantz is top-tier, Homestuck canon ships are sorely lacking in banter
>>84195698
Huh, I was sure I'd be able to find a sad or crying alive Aradia but I couldn't find squat. But have some alive, God Tier Aradia being lovely.
is it wrong that pink karkat does things to my dick
>>84195763
i see more /pol/ posting then i do "sjws"
also slowness is a good thing on 4chan
>>84195785
Meanwhile Jade held out for Dave
>>84195771
>is having a dead board with the same 300 posters share between every thread is bad
Yes
>>84195798
yes
>>84195798
No, unless you call it Karkat.
>>84195812
Jade has to be a Mormon.
(Maybe John still wants Rose subconsciously and that's why he's fucking her mom.)
>>84195797
While that is a lovely Aradia I meant like a lovey-dovey aradia
it feels like ara's only emotional states are happy, horny or robot
>>84195812
Jade knows what she wants, and what she wants she will take
>>84195698
have a melancholy aradia
>>84195812
>>84195852
Jade is perfect on every level
Gosh, this thread sure has a lot embarrassing shippers.
>>84195798
you tell me
Anyone have trashconstruct's "impregnation or decapitation" comic? I never saved it
>>84195845
>>84195751
Because then he couldn't subvert the expectation that the ending would be satisfying for the characters
I mean fuck not like terezi and rose could have had 1 single post vriska conversation together as seers
>>84195763
>off-topic shitposting gets deleted means mods are nazis
Theres a place for that shit and it sure aint comics and cartoons
>>84195768
Honestly the ship/meteor split totally neutered the characters irreversibly. It still would have been nice if they had fucking anything though
JohnRose was always cuter than RoseKan
Okay, let's play a game. Imagine your favorite show, cartoon, game, whatever story and you're nearing the ending, alright?
Got it? Good.Vriska is now dropped near the end of the story to fix all the problems and fix everybody for a swift end. All the drama and tension, all the actual confrontation and development will be swiftly handwaved by her 'fixing it'. How does she do it and what's the outcome of this forced resolution?
>>84195860
Jade is a loyal dog girl who will stay by you and protect you, Dave doesn't deserve her
>>84195845
I think her happiness ascends into euphoria territory, she's just so damn happy all the time, no matter the circumstances. Bitch is crazycrazy cute that is.
>>84195787
>>84195814
go back to /v/ and stay there
>>84195890
ALSO, reminder. She has mind control/brainwashing powers, can put people to sleep, manipulate minds and luck, erase memories, is a master psychic, ect so take that into consideration. Assume it works on anybody.
>>84195889
How would you know? It's not like the former ever happened.
>>84195890
>wander over yonder
NO
>>84195889
I don't like any of the four main kids hooking up with each other because it would change their friend dynamic that probably would have existed if all four kids had interacted even once in the entire god damn colossal waste of time of a comic
>>84195887
jesus, it's right there. double seer light/mind fraymotif: make a good plan
just like the dave/terezi time and mind motif except done before shit happens instead of after
>>84195860
Except genetically
>>84195943
>Implying Jade isn't a pure Aryan goddess
>>84195887
>Honestly the ship/meteor split totally neutered the characters irreversibly
Seriously
What was even the point of splitting off John, Jade, and Davesprite from all the other characters people cared about for three years? Did Hussie think people wouldn't want to read about all the best characters in one place? Did he think wrecking the relationships between characters who ended up getting to the new universe in a different way was a good idea?
>>84195940
Nah, they were flirty enough that they could have crossed over into that dynamic with no issue.
Plus it would feel more sincere than... well most every other ship
>>84195916
when did vriska erase memories?
daily reminder no source exists
>>84195890
>Moral Orel
I honestly can't think of any way she could possibly make Orel's situation any worse specifically. In terms of outcome, though, I'd imagine Orel never overcomes his shitty parenting and never marries Christina or has a happy family
>>84195962
>Did Hussie think
no
>>84195958
Look she might be well endowed or butted or whatever, but she wear glasses and has buck teeth
>>84195890
>Bojack Horseman
I honestly don't know how this would even work especially since, unlike in Homestuck, the characters are actually fleshed out and have actual problems
>>84195890
Her name becomes Nissa, that is the only difference.
>>84195890
>the Iliad
UHHHHHHHHHH
>>84195942
Good thing ole Vriska has 'sources' that completely trivialized anyone else's involvement
Good thing too that literally no one thought to question said sources in any meaningful way
>>84195962
Like he could have just bullshit it as, blah blah green sun takes time to recharge, and then boom, then you can bs a handful of different group setups for quality banter and development.
Fuck man karkat and not-gb-jade didn't even talk in person once
>>84195992
whenever she runs into someone with a problem she can't 'fix' she usually kills them
>>84195992
Also it's not actually over yet, so there's no way of knowing what the ending looks like
>>84196025
RIP fucking everybody in the series then
>>84196017
oh boy
>>84196030
i still don't understand the context
>>84195962
I remember when people first went on about how it'd wouldn't be a timeskip
And then it was retconned into a true timeskip
>>84196055
http://beat-bro.tumblr.com/post/145983191239/potential-homestuck-epilogue-aradia-drops-the
this is the whole comic
>>84196055
sex
now go back to /r/homestuck where you fucking belong
>>84195992
Vriska would just replace Diane, but read his mind and write the book so to write all the narcissistic things he wants to hear until he's full of himself and convinced of his happiness and success.
It's as much of an 'actual' finished arc as she gave Rose or Terezi.
Other than drinking in prep for roxy
Did rose ever bring up the fact she saw her mom and Dad murdered? Or that she went grimdark at all?
>>84196024
I thought that was completely ridiculous how she suddenly knew about all the villains and bad guys ahead of everyone else and was able to info dump them away, completely taking away any sense of surprise or suspense on the casts part.
HEY YOU
YEAH YOU
WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU GOT TO THE POINT IN THE COMIC WHERE JOHN RETCONS EVERYTHING
>>84196130
no because DUDE ULTIMATE SELVES LMAO
>>84196130
None of that got mentioned
At least Jade and Dave talked about him being shot.
>>84196145
"eh"
>>84195918
>Imp-lying.
>>84196145
>The shark got jumped over so hard it got a new moon
rereading early Rose and
it's just awful how she devolved in character
>>84195890
>Episode 5
Vriska stops Han from being frozen in carbonite, makes leia mind control kiss han
tells them that luke is her brother
finds luke and vader and defeats them both
tells luke that he is his father and that id they worked together they could rule the galaxy as father/son and vriska
they overthrow sheev and become involved in the new galactic republic with leia, han and friends as high ranking officials
>>84195890
>Neon Genesis Evangelion
She literally just mind controls Shinji into piloting the damn robot, sparring kaworu and accepting he's his dad's pansy. Then mind fudges Rei into smiling and Asuka into chilling the hell out. They're all bullied into hugging it out at the end.
>>84195992
>>Bojack Horseman
>I honestly don't know how this would even work especially since, unlike in Homestuck, the characters are actually fleshed out and have actual problems
>Implying.
>>84196144
Hussie decided to subvert the "unspoken plan guarantee" trope (basically, how much of a plan is stated onscreen before it's enacted is inversely proportional to how successful it'll be; if we know everything about the plan ahead of time and it works, then it was basically a spoiler; if we don't know about it and something goes wrong we don't have context for what went wrong and why)
He didn't realize that it's a trope that exists for a good goddamn reason
>>84196145
I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET SOME GAME BREAKING CHANGES AND GO ALL TERMINATOR
but then all he did was bring back vriska so honestly it completely sucked
>>84196019
Who the fuck puts their laptop on their legs like that? What the fuck?
>>84195890Undertale
Probably a neutral run, since she thinks murder is an acceptable solution but I don't think she'd go out of her way for genocide
Only stooges like icecream and jellybeans
>>84196145
Well that's about it for the story and characters then. Damn.
>>84196212
I remember I loved old huss and MSPA/Homestuck because there was little exposition. No over-explaining things like in a bad anime, no stupid contrived lectures or plotdumbs..characters just went out and did things, and then they'd be done. If we got any info at all it would be cryptic and vague enough to feel surprised or rewarded when the information becomes relevant.
With that scene it was just, "Here are the bad guys. Go defeat them. The end."
Woopity fucking doo.
>>84196145
"Oh yo, what's Hussie going to do with this? Oh man, he's messing with Terezi, doesn't changing this mean that Nep doesn't die? Oh fuck, that's Equius' face on that rock, is he retconning their deaths? Oh wait, it's just Vriska. And now there's this flash. And now everyone's talking about their feelings. Fuck."
>>84196145
>john touches the juju and arms start appearing everywhere
"this is gonna be dumb"
>john starts using retcons like time travel and brings vriska back
"this is dumb"
>act 7, end of homestuck
"that was dumb"
>>84196192
actually no she knows automatically that kylo is a mistake so she forces han/chewie even though han/leia is MORE DEVELOPED REEEEEEEE
>>84196145
>he used moonsetter
that was the point i knew homestuck had completely and utterly jumped the shark
You know it's a bad ending when even BKEW's shitty theories and predictions would've been more interesting to see fulfilled than the ending we got.
>>84196159
>dave and jade acknowledged pre act 6 events and talked about them
Just another good thing
>>84196189
Just wait till you get to DS
Then you can remember the pain
>>84196145
>>84196249
>since she thinks murder is an acceptable solution
>Implying it's not in some situations
Honestly, on a pacifist run, undertale would realistically have ended with undyne killing frisk
Request from last night
>>84196159
More proof that DaveJade is objectively the best ship
>>84196234
Gotta be a bit creative with your laptop placement if you've got a cute cat on your lap.
>>84195972
It looks like Pitkin's work. I could be wrong.
>>84196337
Except it's canon that Frisk can save/load, so he's effectively immortal
>>84196312
How so?
explain comrade
>>84196313
I still can't forget how shell shocked he seemed when Act 7 finally came out. I genuinely felt bad for the guy.
>>84196350
I've checked his gallery. It's similar, but not it. His stuff is sloppier.
>>84196145
>>84196343
those eyes are creepy
>>84195916
it's too easy with mind control, and besides, vriska can't mind control humans anyway
>>84196343
Draw her snapping Roxy's neck in that position next.
>>84196363
so then frisk would die until undyne was killed
>>84196343
But it's summer.
>>84196343
Adorable.
>>84196343
Nice!
>>84196145
can we just have the REAL non-retcon ending
>>84196343
Hey calliope
guess what
IT'S OKAY THAT YOU'RE NOT IMPORTANT AND WILL DO NOTHING VALUABLE
Its not like we were expecting anything from you anyway or there was any chance youd be relevant
Your perfect for doing absolutely nothing
NOW GO SIT WITH THE MAYOR AND LOOK CUTE
>>84196369
It reminds me a little bit of nsfwee's style, too, but I'm less confident in that guess than the former. I'm sorry, that's all I've got.
>>84196379
please stop it tpdats
>>84196415
Are you okay
>>84196249
vriska is a power-gamer, she loves to grind and make her numbers go up, which is exactly the kind of mindset that the genocide route is supposed to be critiquing
>>84196383
He would die until he learned to dodge her attacks long enough to get her to stop fighting without harming her, that's the whole point with the pacifist run right?
>>84196363
Frisk is videogame[Subaru/spoiler]
>>84196373
Yes, good
>>84196379
No, but I might do a caliborn one tho. you seem like a caliborn kind of person
>>84196429
>tpdats
Wat.
>>84196442
Draw Caliborn snapping Roxy's neck then.
>>84196145
>>84196436
but realistically she would keep on trying to kill frisk, not stop just because she misses
>there is a timeline where homestuck kept up act 4/5.2 levels of quality for the remainder of its run
>there is a timeline where hussie is widely recognized as a genius artist and has gone on to create other successful works
>there is a timeline where there was no retcon
>there is a timeline where vriska stayed dead
>we are trapped in a doomed timeline and will never see the homestuck that should have been
>>84196377
>it's too easy with mind control
Why do you think it was easy in Homestuck?
>What's this, we have an unbeatable powerful Dog-God and Cyborg Jane to fight?
>Woops we MC'd them easy peasy
Can you imagine how ridiculously easy their fights would've been if Vriska had HELPED them, with Ancestral Awakening and all? She could've cut through both easymode Jacks like sliced butter.
>>84196429
you've got the kinks all wrong
>>84196249
>but I don't think she'd go out of her way for genocide
did you forget vriska is a powergamer and probably wants ALL the levels?
>>84196476
All we can do is hope that someone makes Hussie regret ever touching a computer in his life.
>>84196346
like we needed more proof
>>84196407
We already did
In the real non-retcon'd ending the kids fight Caliborn. They get suck'd into the Juju but eventually win.
>>84196484
vriska didn't even use mind control in homestuck's ending
she put jade to sleep
>>84196466
Who's to say? If you stare up an opponent who doesn't look threatening, professing peace and who then proceeds to dodge every single one of your attacks with seemingly little effort or some kind of precognition, it'd make sense to re-evaluate the situation.
>>84196520
So, Mind Control.
Exactly.
Sleep happens in the mind.
Why did we have to get the worst possible ending
>>84196542
sleep also happens in the body
>they didn't just have dave timestop and tranquilize jade
>>84195890
HAMLET: To be, or not to be-that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles
And by opposing end them.
VRISKA: Why haven't you killed him already!!!!!!!!
HAMLET: What? Who interrupts?
I thought my plaints not unheard, but
poison now doth trickle in my ear,
as by the bite of some irrev'rent spider.
POLONIUS, whispered: He is mad. Did I not tell you it was so?
CLAUDIUS: Soft, ere we are heard.
VRISKA: HE'S RIGHT THERE JUST KILL HIM
HAMLET: And then my soul
consigned away
while his to heaven flies? I think not.
If I'm to stoop then down I'll go
his fate for mine; I'd see him sent below.
If I had proof-
VRISKA: I'LL SHOW YOU PROOF
POLONIUS: Oh, I am slain.
>>84196520
The sleep happens because she can't mind control humans, its an unintended side effect
>>84196561
that was my favorite part of shakepeare's writing
having people go "o, i am slain!"
>>84196542
what did you think I meant when I said "vriska can't mind control humans"
this conversation is becoming unreasonably pedantic
>>84196513
that's highly unlikely because it means that retcon gamzee would have warped to the game over timeline, plus John foreshadowed that he would go fight caliborn later in the retcon timeline
>>84196560
Dave cannot timestop
He's not Aradia
>>84196561
Polonius is offstage during the To Be or Not To Be soliloquy you pleb
>>84196428
Nope, not that either. Thanks anyway.
>>84196561
>>84196600
ditto Claudius
Also Claudius is the one Hamlet's really out to kill, he only kills Polonius because he thinks it's Claudius behind the curtain
>>84196560
dave should have been the one to fill jade's dark soul with light
but nope, vriska
>>84196513
they use retcons to get to the fight you idiot
>>84196600
vriska drags him in with her black hole plot device powersit's a fat joke
that or she just stabs her sword off the side of the stage or something idk I just wanted that oh I am slain
>>84196627
there's a theory where one of John's retcon clones gathers up all of the kids and then goes to fight Caliborn
>>84196647
Typheus killed all other Johns.
>>84196590
> retcon gamzee would have warped to the game over timeline
Why would Gamzee warp to a doomed timeline? He didn't even have the time-travel Boxes post-retcon, Vriska did.
>plus John foreshadowed
Which means under no circumstances could he have come up with the plan gone to fight Caliborn originally?
>>84196656
no he just killed the one that was on LOWAS when Typheus exploded it
>>84196627
And your point is?
>>84196656
No he didnt
>>84196509
they also work well with so many fetishes
>>84196712
>Jade will never domme you
>>84196662
The Gamzee that meets Caliborn is 100% without a doubt Retcon Gamzee. I was working under the assumption that any other John fighting Caliborn would necessitate that Caliborn be in the Game Over timeline but I guess John could retcon warp from the Game Over timeline to the Retcon timeline (already in progress) if you want to get really fucking confusing about retcon mechanics.
okay so its been months. did lord english die???
>>84196712
Jade and Dave are versatile characters, they can play the straight man or the goofy idiot to most of the cast, that's why they worked well together.
>>84196759
he got away
>>84196759
it's a solid, definite maybe
>>84196561
HAMLET: You call this proof?
E'en had his speech some merit in it,
his tongue shall never wag again.
VRISKA: FUCK THIS I'M TAKING THE CROWN FOR MYSELF
>Romeo and Juliet: Vriska Edition ends with Vriska turning Romeo and Benvolio gay for each other while Juliet is told that it's her destiny to be alone
>>84196815
>not vriska just making romeo, juliet, benvolio, and the entire cast fall for her and wait on her hand and foot
>>84196145
i thought the concept was cool especially during the montage with the arms but
i suddenly realized, knowing hussie, that this would not work at all in any way and would irreparably damage the comic
i really wish [S] Game Over would have let up to a BAD END of the comic. fuck.
>>84196712
>sizeplay
>impregnation
>weird romantic shit
>clone gangbangs
>crossdressing
>femdom
>mind control
>petplay
>corruption
Hard to think of ones that they don't work with
>>84196537
if you were a pussy, yes, sure, that makes sense
Hussie's own story is ripe fodder for a Shakespearean tragedy
The man had everything
And through sheer hubris, he lost it all
>>84196859
>jade will never shrink you
>>84196753
okay, I don't see what your point is though. Gameover timeline Gamzee died, and Retcon Gamzee went over to meet Caliborn and eventually is killed in the final battle. They're two separate gamzees.
And my proposal was necessitated on the fact that Game Over John to Retcon John is initially a Doomed timeline. There's an alpha John that fights Caliborn separately and that's the alpha timeline before John has to step in and retcon things.
Alpha Timeline John --->Goes to fight Caliborn with crew with retcon powers---> Trapped in Juju
Doomed Timeline John (Gameover) ---> Retcons things ---> Becomes John we know to the end --> Claims victory in new timeline
Doomed Timeline Gamzee (Gameover) --> Sawwed in half by Kanaya
Retcon Gamzee --> Locked in Trunk --> Gets sent to Caliborn --> Calibornquest --> Eventually is sealed inside Cal
This
This is enough naptaps
>>84196859
jade will never impregnant you
>>84196815
also she makes the montague and capulet families make up
they just needed to talk it out all along
would jade have a donut butthole
>>84196759
No
He won in the end
AHAHAHAHAHAH
>>84196887
Is there anyone worse than nepeta fans, truly?
>>84196915
Vriska fans, because the author is one of them
>>84196895
In fairness they kind of did
They also needed to have a kid die each, but I'm sure Vriska could work something out on that front
>>84196903
jade has probably never eaten a donut
>>84196915
Gamzee apologists
Cronus fansAndrew Hussie
>>84196925
that's not the question
>>84196929
Cronus is the best, what are you talking about?
>>84196753
>any other John fighting Caliborn would necessitate that Caliborn be in the Game Over timeline
Caliborn doesn't have to 'be' in any of those because he exists in an entirely different sessions.
Sessions don't carry timelines across each other, they're irrelevant as far as comparisons go.
>>84196903
No, and nobody would, that's not how buttholes work
>>84196942
yeah but it's sad
>that entire flash dedicated to a bunch of one-shot trolls
did we really need that
>>84196863
Or, perhaps, someone who doesn't actually know what kind of threat they're facing and would smartly consider other options of dealing with said 'threat' that don't require continued violence. Seeking a peaceful solution is the norm, even for those in combat scenarios, when their role is to protect the peace, such as a Royal Guard would.
>>84196919
>Homestuck is a story of an author getting way too attached to their OC Mary Sue and having her completely take over the story
>>84196881
my point was that no matter how you set it up, either gamzee has to hop between retcon timelines, or john has to without actually creating the timeline he goes to
it's not explicitly impossible though it's just unintuitive with how retcons are portrayed
>>84196915
vriskafans killed homestuck
>>84196964
you just got awful taste nigga
>he can't surpass the boundaries of flesh
sad
>>84196982
No
but Andrew Hussie thought we needed four of them
>>84196881
Except LE can't exist without the masterpiece which requires the retcon to occur, meaning that the John who gets the powers is the "alpha john" the gameover timeline was/is the alpha up until john gets the powers, the new timeline he hops to with roxy then becomes the a new retcon-alpha as a result.
Even assuming that the John RetconJohn met with terezi goes off to deal with LE for the masterpiece, he's still missing about 7 other people who are dead or mia due to GO
https://coolandnewwebcomic.bandcamp.com/album/cool-and-new-web-comic-voulem-1 the time has come my dudes
>>84196982
No, you're right man, they weren't that important so we should've cut them altogether. A bunch of the trolls didn't get a lot of screen time, did we need them?
Obviously the story would've been better if it was just the 4 kids, or even just John and John alone instead of a bunch of one-note characters, not hundreds of useless ones.
>>84196920
so vriska actually arrives in a timeline where romeo and juliet are going to survive but that's not their destiny so vriska kills them herself
>cool and new webcomic album one is out
>cascante is actually good
>>84196859
forgot futa
>>84197023
Don't care if this is sarcasm or not, but the entire thing with the beforus trolls was pointless
>>84197020
>52 fucking songs
Jesus
>>84196915
There's a lot of potential worse options, but every character fan can be shit depending on the exploits and characteristics of said characters. Nep's just a cute cat troll who didn't get to do shit, so there's not much shit to fling about character wise.
>>84197038
Stop commissioning chaz you fuck
>>84196859
cuckolding
>>84197055
nah fuck you
>>84197020
>52 songs
>52 songs
>52 songs
>52 songs
>>84196903
Why does Jade get all the shitty fetishes?
Oh right, she's a furry.
>>84196988
>gamzee has to hop between retcon timelines
Why? If he's hopping to Caliborn's session via the fridge/Black Hole portal at the end of [S] Collide he doesn't need to "Hop" between any timeline at all when going to a new session.
> or john has to without actually creating the timeline he goes to
John doesn't "Create" any timeline regardless of where he goes, nor does he replace or remove old ones. I think you're misinterpreting how retcons work.
>>84197064
You shithead
>>84196998
Your taste is deplorable.
>>84197038
i'm only listing good fetishes
>>84196962
I'm talking about retcon timelines, which are a whole other bag of dicks than regular timelines
also I'm not so sure that timeline changes would be contained to their universe/session
>>84197071
Your favorite character probably has a bunch of awful fetishes tied to them too
stop being so pompous
>>84197035
Holy shit, it actually is
>>84197020
>"i am stiting in a buttock"
>7:20
>>84197083
And you're a lightweight.
Shall we fuck?
cool and new webcomic would have been good if it didn't introduce trolls
>rosekan AGAIN
YAWN
>>84197078
john created the retcon in the trolls' session and the effects were eventually felt in B2
retcon timelines span multiple sessions
>spacesplore
>>84196952
What a horrible creature you must be.
>>84197020
lobing it
reminder that there are people who UNIRONICALLY think Davekat is good
>fun cat song :3 :3
>>84197019
>meaning that the John who gets the powers is the "alpha john" the gameover timeline
John had his powers way before this point however. The only speculation in the air is if an instance of him learned to control it without Typhus and RetconQuest. It's iffy, but it's not impossible.
> then becomes the a new retcon-alpha as a result
Recall how the Void and the Juju work, they're above normal game element. You have to wrap your head around the idea that even if an entire section of reality is retconned and sectioned off, it doesn't erase the essences sealed inside from existing or influencing other timelines.
> he's still missing about 7 other people who are dead or mia due to GO
I said that this was an Alpha Timeline. In my assumptions they wouldn't dead in this instance like in GO which was clearly a doomed timeline.
>>84197161
yeah, so?
you got a problem with that shitlord?
>>84197053
That's exactly what makes Nepeta insufferable. She's a 2d character with no depth and yet people seem to have an obsession with her
>>84197129
To be fair, given it's not Hussie in charge this time, Rose and Kanaya could actually retain what initially made their snark-filled interactions interesting and carry that through should they get together.
>>84194948
that was RJ who said outright that he's not on the dev team
>>84197071
You are the shitty fetish here.
>>84197098
>getting legitimately offended by that post
holy fuck man, can't take some bants
>>84197196
True. Rosekan COULD have been good if they kept the bantz going, but Hussie made their relationship toothless and boring.
>>84197183
>kanaya is also normal
this is getting better and better
>>84196656
I think there's something to the John that the current main John sent off to Typheus. It would be really fucked up if John literally just sent his clone to go die.
>>84197196
unless it IS hussie
>>84197207
Just saying, everyone's got bad kinkart
same with my waifu, same with your waifu
>>84197231
>It would be really fucked up if John literally just sent his clone to go die.
welcome to homestuck, land of the fucked-up but unexplored implications
>>84197190
She never did anything wrong, that puts her above a lot of people in the comic
>>84197207
that aint bants
that's just mindless shitposting
>>84197182
>In my assumptions
You see the problem here
>and then MY CRIPPLING ADDICTION TO PORNOGRAPHY will be buried alive
Fuck my life 3 In the Morning (4 1/3 Hours Late Remix) is fucking incredible. How does this happen
>>84197262
Go fuck yourself.
>>84197088
Retcon timelines aren't super special or that different than regular timelines. The only real difference is that with Retcons, you cannot create/hop to doomed timelines or kill yourself with stupid mistakes.
Other than that they're identical.
>>84197132
Them affecting multiple sessions doesn't change the nature of where Gamzee needs to travel. If's going into an Alpha Timeline in one session from another Alpha Timeline, he doesn't need to hop between any "Retcon" timelines.
And you have to realize from the perspective of Caliborn's session (Which is always the Alpha, there are no dead Caliborn ghosts lying around), it's not like retcons aren't accounted for. His origin is made up of actions from both retcon and pre-retcon reality from other retcons paradoxically, and all instances for that matter.
wait what
when did a new album get made
>>84197276
is this an au where rose is taken by a kiddy fiddler version of dad
>>84197302
It's a meme album based on a fan adventure
Although on June 12 Vol. 10 did come out
ITS TIME
TO D-D-D-D-DUEL
EVERYONE
FINISH THIS SENTENCE
HALFTRUTH IS A ________
>>84197302
it's for a fanventure
>>84197176
It is a cat song. They got that at least.
>>84197190
Well that's what a cute cat design does for a character in pretty much any franchise, people like cute things. Add in the possible interesting things she could have had/done and her positive attitude and she'll have people who enjoyed her, however irrelevant she was. Most of the trolls are similar to that, certainly characters like Equius and Eridan too given they barely do anything, they were all poorly handled supporting characters. People just like the designs for whatever number of reasons, it's not some mystery to solve anon it's very simple. She's a cute cat troll, people like cute cat things and would have liked to have seen more of whatever aspects they found interesting/appealing.
Same deal with all the characters in Homestuck, hence the issues with characters like Karkat completely changing from what their character was firmly established as without any meaningful development shown.
>>84197318
lot better than piggy
>>84197318
perfectly decent person who is unfairly blamed for Hussie's failings, much as Yoko Ono was unfairly blamed for John Lennon's
>>84197262
Yes, speculation takes a level of surprise, speculation, which requires assumption by definition. What a shocker.
>>84197213
Yup, this is it's second chance. Problem is it's in the least romantic setting possible, should be fun to see how it goes eh.
I see a lot of people get angry about how Karkat ended up but, I don't understand
what's so infuriating about what happened to him in the end?
>>84197296
>If's going into an Alpha Timeline in one session from another Alpha Timeline, he doesn't need to hop between any "Retcon" timelines.
on this point we disagree, and I don't see how we can resolve the disagreement without more detailed information about how retcons work
but retcon mechanics are self-contradicting anyway so there probably isn't a correct answer
>>84197338
When you assume you're right and others are wrong, because its YOUR assumption, then yeah its a bit of a shocker when you parade that opinion as fact
>>84197258
only mindless shitposting i see is right here, what the fuck is wrong with her body?
Are these songs just an excuse to make some really good parody names
>JHON: RICE
>>84197384
that's the glory of that artist
they cannot improve
holy shit this is actually good
>>84197352
Karkat before
>decent, if overly abrasive, leader
>struggles from self-worth issues
>struggles with regret over past decisions, to the point that he will literally get in fights with his past self over them if given the chance
>struggles with the idea that no one will accept him for his blood color
>basically completely hates himself
>masks all of this with ultimately toothless expressions of anger towards others
Karkat after
>Dave's penis sheath
The moment Rose became Kanaya's purse, her wit took a complete nosedive
if you disagree with this
you're probably a faggot
>>84197352
This happened to him.
>[Dave] is his shrodinger's bf who we were left not knowing whether he may or may not have, and whose relationship is nonetheless the only thing left of his character.
>Karkat is like the shaky nervous guy in dirty clothes at the casino, clearly someone who's on his absolute last hope in this world before he officially has nothing, shouting "ALL IN ON RED" and pushing his meager pile of chips forward. Our viewport into his world is then frozen in that moment, forever. That is the extent of the resolution we got with this character.
He became entirely about forcing Davekat to be canon with no other use or purpose in life, which was established offscreen at the cost of the rest of his character, and it's still just some ambiguous coinflip deal.
people are saying it's good but most of them are shit
can somebody compile the ones worth listening
>>84197318
humanized Vriska.
How is the meteor crew able to experience linear time on the meteor? Do they have a stable space field around them and is timetravel doable on the meteor trip?
>>84197445
no go fuck yourself
>>84197440
Life is simply unfair.
>>84196145
Confusion, mostly. All the pauses had thrown me off and I had forgotten what was going on.
beautiful track art
>>84197440
>it's still just some ambiguous coinflip deal
>coinflip
What if this is dead Terezi's last revenge
>>84197461
Well time is determined by where you go, right? And they're moving in a linear direction, so they go through time linerally.
>>84197352
He ended up as a completely different character than what he was and was being setup to be as a main character with influence in the narrative. One of the primary issues is how he stops offering anything to the story after being clearly setup to be an important player in the story after the events on the meteor. This is before the retcon even happens, and the retcon itself makes this issue much much worse in the end. Simply put, someone who was once a highly influential character for the story and the main cast simply stops being that for seemingly no reason and it's pretty damn jarring, especially considering how popular and prominent a character he was before then.
There's a good number of other issues I could go into, but that's the big one for me at least. He's a completely different character to the one he was outlined and developed to be, and we're never shown how this process happens and are expected to just accept this shell of the former character who barely acts or sounds like himself and is much less interesting or compelling.
What is the most avant-garde track and why is it AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?
>>84197503
DEEPEST
>>84197461
I assume time travel is possible because karkat had that memo with himself during the trip
>Karkat was demoted to Ghost-army tier in the end battle
that was
so fucking stupid
I like justice must be a serve
>>84197513
>>84197538
And he's literally the first person in the entire fucking army to get rekt
Just remember
no matter what happens to you
you will never be as much of a failure as Karkat
>>84197495
Fucking amazing.
>>84197563
Least he get's the glory of first man to diebut also not die, that's a pittance at least.
It's time to chew ass
canon
>>84197495
Is the shittiness the work of an enemy standu?
Justice Must Be a Serve is quality wubbing I tell you what
>>84197604
>man
Sure
>>84197628
Police is best donut steel character
I also like Licord Nacrosty, feels like an unerect necrosity
I'm glad Bowman's on this album, at least
This is racist you guys
>Archagent Everlasting
>That sample from the old, draft version of the Ballad of Jack Noir that had lyrics
>"GRAVEYARD STUFFERS"
>>84196859
there's this one stuffing/weight gain one with dave feeding jade that i used to read on the kink meme
a lot
a
lot
>>84197611
>jade when she becomes a milf has short hair
Appropriate
>>84197369
True, to go further would require a rather detailed elaboration of retcons. The validity is dependent on whether Retcons are just ordinary superpowered Time-Travel sanctioned in sburb, or full out Meta-Narrative "Actual" Retcons that re-write the story itself.
>but retcon mechanics are self-contradicting anyway so there probably isn't a correct answer
There's some evidence towards the former, but you're right they're pretty inconsistent.
>>84197371
>When you assume you're right and others are wrong
This is all speculation. When doing literary criticism you go off an interpretation of certain evidence and assumptions of others, which get clarified or debated when discussion fiction. Since Death of the Author is a thing and we're trying to read it subjectively, I'm merely clarifying my position within this debate.
That's what theorizing is, speculation.
It's not an "Opinion" and it's not a fact either.
Are you an objectivist by any chance? You sound like you cannot read into subtly or into criticism.
>>84197684
is this album art a spoiler
>>84197161
It's funny, cute and good in theory, Hussie was just too lazy and ran out of time to show it on-screen. I'm okay with it.
>>84197636
Whiteshield is also an acceptable alternative.
haha fuck
>>84197436
/r/ greentext smut of Rose submitting and becoming Kanaya's cockslut
>>84197727
GET THAT FACEHUGGER OFF OF HIM
ACT 6 IS SHIT
>>84197773
>>84197770
song?
>>84197770
But thats an old pic that was made here last year, well whatever.
>>84197790
the vaporwave one
oh my god
the recorder section in john: rice
i am sititng in a buttock is performance art.
>>84197815
>the vaporwave one
There are multiple vaporwave ones. It's the X VAPOR ROM or whatever.
good song
best girl
who is the album art for turnways lurker
I can't really see it on my laptop
Theses are honest to god works or art
>>84197913
dammit nvm
I figured it out
>>84197913Rick Astley
>>84197927
lord english confirmed
WHAT
DOES
IT
MEAN
>>84197884
WHY WON'T IT STOP
PLEASE NO
STOP
>>84197956
was it even arranged by the author
>>84197956
Actual development for the big bad guy, good times ahead anon.
25x showdown what the fuck i don't know what to think anymore
>I am sitting in a buttock
>>84197927
>that lord english mr bones.
Oh fuck why did nobody think of this before
just like regular homestuck, the music is the best part of canwc
can you give me a HAND is unironically good.
cool and new web comic is literally the funniest thing i have read and the happiest i have been with homestuck in years holy fuck
>People this desperate for updates
baka
>THE HIGHER THIS NUMBER IS BETWEEN MY BUTTOCKS
I AM THINKING OF A NUMBER
>that toby in the background of hankage fantazumu
>>84198062
>>84198118
>no epic Bowman-composed track for the end of Homestuck that could suit a final battle and emotional aftermath but is entitled "Between My Buttocks"
I'm going to listen to all of sitting in a buttock no matter how painful it gets
>>84198156
I did.
>>84198044
It is bretty gud
And then, Joey Claire knew
The only way she was going home was to kill this degenerate race of aliens once and for all
>hankage fantazumu
holy fucking shit
>>84198188
what if joey IS the vast glub
Is it safe to assume the author of CANWC is secretly one of us due to the presence of that Bowman Credit Score track?
>>84198148
Having a career interest like homestuck alive for seven fucking years is insanity. Even most songs of Volume 10 are dated by 2013.
How mad would you be if the epilogue came on 7/20
>>84198230
Significance of 7/20 ?
>>84198188
/r/ing Joey replicating Not Important's pose from the first part of the Hatred trailer
>>84198221
>he doesnt know
Poor anon.
>>84198221
I'm pretty sure it's a MSPAF guy because he posts the adventure on omegaupdate
but bowman is a meme on reddit too
>>84198249
Know what, my man?
>>84198240
It's between his buttocks.
>>84198230
It'll be 8/8 man, this is obvious stuff.
>>84198258
Reddit genocide when
>>84198259
He was spammed like hell on the redit stream
Just look at >>84197155
>>84198230
why would I be mad about the epilogue being made of magic
I don't think I can make it to 52 guys. This is a lot of trash.
>>84198353
ive been more or less skimming
>>84198353
>Not being ironic
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" just sounds like generic torture dungeon music you might here in a game from 1998.
>music team is all male
>art team is all female
What does this say about gemder........
>>84198386
not that anon but i enjoy harsh noise
this album is great
>>84198402
Really makes you think...
>>84198402
>music team is good
>art team is bad
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>Reading CANWC
>jacks ship is coming down and about to hit rose
>mom pushes her out the way
>dies
im fucking dying
>>84198444
please prototype mom... i want to see her get
BLAPCKED
what the fuck is upp word movement
>>84197727
these aren't my sunglasses
>>84198492
the meme density in this fucking song, man
PENUMBRA sounds like some KH shit
jade's mighty need
>one of the songs on CaNWC is just somebody covering Karkalicious
I wish for death, but at the same time, life is so wonderful right now.
>>84198571
what happened to that guy who was doing the petplay fic
>>84198571
>jade will never pin you down and lovingly rape you
>>84198616
still working on it. i'm used to fluff and jokes, not fucking
>suburbon contdon is just an alarm clock
jesus how do they come up with this shit
>>84192438
The leprechauns, Andrew Hussie himself in-universe, Fedora Freak, Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff, Dad.
Prove me wrong
arafef
>>84198723
>female
>>84198635
>>84198609
i was the guy singing in that
>>84198669
i was the guy who made that
>>84198723
He said "female" unless you're implying...
>>84198755
congrats
aradia in cool and new WHEN
>>84198755
it's horrendous
nice job
>>84197770
Makin pls go
>>84198735
All characters are female or transfemale.
>>84198755
tnaks snon
>>84198739
Just for once can't dave dominate jade, and jade enjoy the feeling of being manhandled
>>84198782
you're fucking welcome
>>84198800
ew dude nasty!!!
gross eewww!!!
>>84198755 >>84198609
i was the trombone
>>84198800
>dave dominating anyone
no
>>84198845
i coined the term shittershack
>>84198845
i was liveblogger
>>84197274 im the guy that made that, the idea came purely from a random realization that 3 AM + 4 1/3 hours = 7:20 and it spiraled out of control from there
>>84198890
Attention-whoring incarnate.
even the CANWC music team comes to hang out
>>84198826
okay but see
jade wants attention, she wants the feeling of someone else being there for her instead of her having to do all the work as usual
>>84198868
we arent doing this again minish
is "lame and old webcomic" just all of the volume 10 tracks layered
>>84198386
>being too much of a pussy to be upfront about your own interests, having to hide it in a veil of "irony"
lmao kekko
>>84198949
yes
>>84198949
Yes
>>84198845
Nep is dead, and God is born
>>84198949
yes nice ear
>>84198922
That just makes her attention starved, not needing to get dominated.
>>84198955
>having genuine interests at all
>not existing as a pure being of self-aware meta-post-irony
>>84199005
>implying being genuine and honest isn't the logical conclusion of multi-layered irony
>dono't dsiturmpt plsthx
Fuck i actually checked myskype
TINY aradia
>>84198996
same thing
jade wants to be put in a leash and called a good girl
>>84198740
I made this, and also while I'm here I wasn't the last three people you called makin
>>84199021
>Implying the layers of irony have a conclusion
>>84199037
>fangs
>>84199076
wrong
>>84199111
how is it wrong in any way
>>84199124
jade wears a collar, not a leash
unironically starting to think that CANWC John is a better character than regular John
>>84199099
tiny arabia!
>>84199124
jade is 100% gentle femdom material
>>84199138
She's going to be wearing the leash up her ass
>>84199150
People can do more than one thing you closeted walnut
>>84199151
>not tying her up with the leash
> Tycoon
o shit
>>84199173
Yes, but she's 100%
There's no room for submission
>>84199139
he's unstoppable
What about dave and jade both being equals in bed
>>84199139
*Jhon
>listening to the beginning of..... something
I DIDN'T COME HERE TO FEEL THESE FEELS
>hsg obsessing over an /r/homestuck-tier meme comic
you people disgust me
>>84199212
what a dull way of thinking
heh
>>84199215
bitch i see that satan
>>84199229
Thanks for speaking my mind for me.
>>84199221
Acceptable
>>84199229
{Yuo)
>>84199099
yea? it's aradia
Reminder that the red string Dave tied around Jade's finger will be their wedding ring
Since they can alchemize anything, gold and the like are completely worthless and sentimental value is the thing that matters mst
>>84199264
What would they even use as a ring. You can alchemize anything, a diamond would be easy to make and feel insincere.
>>84199302
>>84199306
Well that answers that
>>84199306
the moon shrunk down into gemstone size
>>84199306
>>84199302
What happens when the string rots away
>>84199302
>>84199306
>>84199316
>>84199319
TIME TRAVEL IS REAL
Daverezi was a better Dave ship
>>84199409
wrong
>a thread ago we were lamenting about barely cracking 500 posts
>mid day thread today got deleted do to inactivity
>now we're at 770 posts and 106 unique posters
I gues CANWC is good for something at least.
>>84199409
Theoretically it could be because it all happened offscreen
>>84199364
This just made me realize that since they didn't take the moon with them Earth will have fucked-up tides
>>84199425
Jade was worthless in these threads until the last month of updates when it was revealed she was the only character Hussie didn't ruin
The trick to that? Jade was always as poorly written as an Act 6 HS character, so she never went down in quality with everyone else.
>>84197540
thanks anon, but you probably should thank the.wubmachine.com since it did most of the work