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Continuing from >>83537993
No new episodes until June 23; The Music Hole, a Marceline episode.
Post thoughts on the show, the comics, and etc.
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I challenge /co/ to pick PB's most attractive outfit.
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>>83580743

Done
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Who Patreon here?
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>>83580565
Anyone got some more Ice Queen to share?
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>>83581127
Eventually.
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>>83581098
What.
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>>83580743
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>>83581314
The educated choice.
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>>83581314
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>>83581449
>>83581314
Suddenly I feel like I would like to see the entire show cast in a PB-science style costume.
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>>83580565
Just to bring up the comics, anyone else not feeling the current "arc"?
Alternatively, anyone else kind of optimistic about that second ongoing?
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>>83581668
> the current "arc"
Is there a place to read those online? I think I've stopped on the issue with King of Ooo, bears and spy stuff, is there an arc after that already?
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>>83580565
I wanna stick my dick in crazy.
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>>83581782
It's cold in there, be sure to wear your mittens.
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>>83581214
Patreon
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>>83581748
I think there's an online place called Viewcomic that lets you read it, but I always preferred downloading, so I wouldn't know if its there.
After the bear stuff there was an arc where Finn and Jake find out they had a sister, then the 50th issue had a thing with Finn's past and alternate lives, and then the current one has Finn and Jake doing some stuff with ghosts.
Last one's been pretty uninteresting for me, but it's mostly a Jake adventure.
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>>83581098
http://gamejolt.com/games/what-if-adventure-time-was-a-3d-anime-game/132926
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>>83581623
>Suddenly I feel like I would like to see all the girls in a PB-science style costume.

Ftfy
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>>83582336
Canyon does offer a vast canvas for circuits.
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>>83580743
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>>83581098
>>83581818
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>>83582279
>not even cel shaded
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>>83582489
Cel-shading a shit
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>>83582279
This got the lewds back in it yet? Maybe at least the shower easter egg?
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>>83582543
>game is supposed to be anime
>doesn't look the least bit anime
And Wind Waker was the last good looking 3D Zelda.
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>>83582984
Cel-shading is almost as shit as your waifu
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>>83583128
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>>83583036
My waifu is you're waifu.
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>Ice Queen will never reluctantly invite you to play with her eyebrows.
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>>83583128
Wonder what that Stakes would be like. I can't see Fionna ever being as moronic and useless as Finn was.
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Alright, with no PB, no Ice King, and maybe even no Finn: Can Marceline hold her own episode?
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>>83583443
She had a fun little quest alone in that grable.
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>>83581127
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>>83583548
Not fat shit.
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>>83583443
I don't think so, modern Marceline is just kind of boring.
I guess she was alright in Stakes but even there she was interacting with Bubblegum or the vampires the entire time.

If she was still an indifferent asshole with a lose moral code? Maybe then.
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Any senior lurkers remember this little AU during the show's heyday?
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>>83582733
Fuck, this is actually pretty hot. Please tell me there's more of this?
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>>83583977
Ah, them was the days.
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>>83584138
Back when most theories were

>Finn is in a coma! And Ooo is just his personification of his world through the world of child and everyone is his close friends and family.
The good ole days.
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>>83583977
Care to post the one with the Lich and a natural 1?
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>>83584405
Yeah but
>It's just a bunch of kids playing DnD
Made sense and makes more and more sense every season as the show get's involved with more drama and Finn's angst of unable to get laid.
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>>83584422
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>>83582389
underrated
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>>83584405
I don't think anyone other than unoriginal idiots put too much stock in that. We knew it was nuclear was since like the 8th episode.
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>>83584717
noice. rare that you see that pb getting any attention.
not sure the position finn's in is actually feasible though.
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>>83584483
I meant the other one but yours is great too. Guess I'll post it myself anyway.
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>>83581623
>>83582336
Hopefully Jacinth or another artist will be able to do something about this?
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>>83584843
any other PB's that people here'd like see get attention?
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>>83586510
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>>83586892
I mean comic/show versions of peebles
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>>83586510
Remember the water park episode? She had a swimsuit with a swim cap, but the style of the episode was tragically unflattering. The outfit could stand to be drawn in a different art style.
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I hope you guys like WIPs
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>>83580743
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>>83587258
I'm liking what I see so far.
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>>83587265

This was the writers saying Finn is gay, right?
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>>83583977
>>83584138

That LSP is hot as hell.
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>>83587336
>finn sees PB as just another bro
>obviously a set up for endgame pairing
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>>83587402

Bubbline is endgame.
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>>83587420
wash your mouth out with soap and then come back
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>>83587420
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>>83587420
but that's wrong, anon
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>>83583977
Jake and PB seem off, they're both more confidant characters than this picture makes them out to be. Otherwise, neat.
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So when does Marceline just decide to take Finn's dick
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>>83587608
anything is possible in the realm of your imagination zone
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>>83587608
when she stops being a lesbian, so not until the show gets rebooted in a decade
though by that point the new people may make her an even bigger lesbian, so maybe not even then
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>>83587608

Never. She is dykes with PB. That's what the writers want. That's what the artists want. That's what the fans want.

Adventure Dykes will soon be the new title for this show.
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>>83587681
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>>83587527
>>83587518
>>83587525

>there are people still here that think that Finn the cuck will get hooked up with Marceline, who is now a lesbian.
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>>83587662
> when she stops being a lesbian
> has canonically dated that wizard jerk
> hints at her past relationship with PB being romantic are only evident if you are a biased shipper
Doesn't Bubbline filth understand that its wrong labeling upsets the bi community in our modern and progressive times?
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>>83587730
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>>83587748
no one cares about bisexuals silly head.
plus bubbline fans collectively forget that Marceline and Bubblegum ever expressed romantic interest in anyone other than each other.
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>>83587568
YOU CAN't DRINK THROUGH TWIZZLERS LIKE THAT ONLY REDVINES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>83587258
Looks already complete to me.
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>>83587823
is that true

what the hell's a red vine
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>>83587671
>Finn gets shoved in the background with some shittly developed grass plot and grill
hold me bros
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>>83587899
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>>83587904

You could always watch a show with better relationships, like Steven Universe
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>>83587904

>Adventures Dykes!
>Come eat your clams!
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>>83587951
I don't think that anon will consider 500% more lesbians as better dude.
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>>83587986

But at least those lesbians treat each other slightly better than those "friends" Finn has.
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>>83587258
I am digging this so far. Your Fionna shit is making me wanna write a fapfic with her. That kinda thickness has gotta be shared mang.
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>>83587568
>>83587658
>>83587681
>>83587723
>>83587899
>>83587921
These comics get really depressing after you've read a couple of them
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>>83588337

Wait. There are more?
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>>83588337
Finn's attempts at cheering up Marceline eventually turns her gay just like the person who drew the comics
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>>83588383
Not that I know of, but reading the ones posted in these threads, Marceline's drunkenness stops being cute or funny as it becomes evident that she has a serious problem and that she isn't being very receptive to Finn's efforts to help.
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>>83588538
just the way I like it
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>>83588383
only a few

the artist either went full tranny or their shit did or both

also they started clogging up their blog with truly terrible fan art

I grabbed as much of this AU as I could and ran
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>>83588632
>full tranny

Webcomic artists are fucked up individuals.
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don't go

tell me that the lights won't change

tell me that you'll stay the same
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>>83588681
Ronnie will be pure forever
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>>83587258
oh I can't wait for you to open up commissions.
Huntress/Fertility Princess Fionna...
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>>83587310
>>83587892
>>83588334
>>83588827

Thanks! I'm Testing out a different shading style for more complex pieces, so here's an update!
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>>83588334
Curse my laziness!
I just tend to get lewd idea outlines...
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>>83588917
so are the ice cubes her actual nips or just censoring
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>>83588917
I need to see Finn sucking on those ice-titties ASAP.
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>>83588917
looking pretty snazzy
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>>83581127
>>83586364
>>83587258
>>83588917
What is it about Ice Queen that makes her so enticing compared to most of the other women in AT?
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>>83589126
Everything.
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>>83589042
I gotchu
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>>83589126
I miss Laur.

>>83589296
Pfft hahahaha
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>>83589296
Why did Canyon change her hair?
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>>83588917
You do good shit man, happy to actually catch you in one of these threads. Unfortunately I only got like a page or two of the story done otherwise I'd post a bit of a preview, but these threads are giving me more of a reason to continue.
>>83589296
oh lawd
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>>83588961
So basically she'd be super preggo?
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>>83589747
no comment.
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>>83589601
What are you working on?
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>>83583426
Making a girl character useless comedic relief is too problematic.
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>>83584483
I really like this one
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>>83590257
Anon wants to work out at the Candy Kingdom gym and runs into Fionna after not seeing her for a while. She's gotten thick since there's been a lack of adventuring lately and her old workout attire isn't exactly fitting her anymore if you know what I mean.

Lots of bouncing and sweat that I'm planning on including too.
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>>83590519
>self-insert
When will they learn
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>>83590316
it's a little gross how PB's hair is all stringy and stretched out like the gum it is, but i love it when artists pay attention to that.
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>>83590577
It's what the people want mang.

And besides all the other male characters are too busy blowing each other to wanna fuck her
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>>83590805
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>>83590842
adventure time inspires me to live off pancakes, sandwiches and spaghetti. what other food could you need?
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>>83590842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffm25rW7y3U
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Aaaaaand done! It's a little messy, especially around the ice, but I think it turned out well!
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>>83589126
How can you not love an attractive woman preying on handsome young boys?
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>>83590805
I want to fuck Armor fin.
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>>83590898
Neat!
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>>83590898
Very nice dude. I like the texture of the ice and her skin.
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>>83590884
Here's what I'm thinking is weird.
Would it be odd to actually make Breakfast Princess?
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>>83590898
Damn that looks good.
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Which girl has the best ass?
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>>83590898
>>83590902
I just realized Dabble would draw great Gogo/Hiro material.
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>>83591180
While PB has a literal bubble butt, the stickiness is irritable for assjobs.
I like Fionna's ass the best, as it balances the firmness of muscle with the softness of fertile thighs.
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>>83591180
Canyon of course.
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>>83582779
anyone got that pic with all the different versions of Finn lined up?
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>>83587035
Too bad she was off-model.
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>>83590897
that actually looks kinda neat.
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>>83591644
I'm downloading it solely because it has AT in it, so it better actually be.
Shit better be cash, is all I'm saying, and I better be able to use that archer chick.
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>>83589126
>>83589256
Refined age and at this age they know how to appreciate younger men then most women do today. Also doesnt sound as bad if a older woman "abducts" and young man and does activites with him.
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>>83581314
Yup
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>>83593032
The only problem I can see with the outfit, is that it looks like it should be doing some kind of techno-magic, but it really is just clothing.
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>>83592121
Playing it now, it seems fun enough, but besides getting Finn as a "hero", after the tutorial, apparently you don't get to the AT stuff till later on.
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>>83591622
How can the storyboard be so neat and the actual episode be so awful?
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>>83588681
Mortals such as we could never hope to understand them, much like an ant could never understand the beauty of a sunset.
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>>83591497
>analingus

A human after my own heart, that would one hell of a butthole, probably the size of a dinner plate. If Canyon were particularly good at anal insertion, i imagine she'd be able to fulfil any anal vore fantasies finn might have.
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>>83596868
finn is not for sexual
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>>83596906
You're right, but who is? Jake's shapeshifting powers could be useful in the butt department.
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>>83596926
makes me wonder if Pendleton thought about 'compatibility' when he paired Jake up with the 50 foot horse vagina. any crazy shaped gf, he can manage.
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>>83588632
Is this everything the artist did on this AU or is there more? What's their name by the way?
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>>83597015
Good point.
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When the fuck will something magic happen to either bring finn to Aaa or bring fiona to Ooo better fucking YET, Bridge the worlds because FemLich is conspiring with RegLich,

>SOMEBODY FUCKING DO SOMETHING!!
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>>83590897
What the fuck is happening???!!!
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>>83597834
Let it go, anon. It will never happen.
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>>83596868
Don't forget about the unbirth fantasies. Maybe Finn could go crawling through her cavern and pretending it's a dungeon.
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>THE ROOM WITH ALL THOSE FUCKING EYEBALLS
WHAT DO I DO I'M SCARED
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>>83584983
>marcy
>goth
>braces
>freckles

I didn't know this combinaison would be so hot
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>>83599768
Wait, what's the difference between anal/vaginal vore and unbirthirthing?

By the way, there's a good reason they call her canyon, anon.
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>>83600174
It's a triple threat anon, you should know by now that the buffs girls get from their cuteness multipliers stack. It's basic cuterithmatic.
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>>83600217
Unbirth is is more voluntary on the "victim's" part.
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>>83600410
Jesus, I'll never understand people.
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Alright I got to the eyes room and decided to man up but what the fuck are you supposed to be getting to?
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>>83599868
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>>83600675
FUCK YOU
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So when do new episodes air?
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>>83603352
June 23rd, I think.
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page 9 bump
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>>83605578
Is there a reason there's not an Adventure Time General?
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>>83605658
You could always try, but there's no guarantee that people will show.
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>>83605658
Compare this thread to the last one in OP, people would drop like flies until the only people left are the same few people talking about waifus and shipping, which I'm not knocking, but it gets old if that's all that's left. Now think about how generals generally go.
There's never really a need for an Adventure Time general, the occasional thread, maybe scheduled ones for talkbacks and what not, have always worked out best.
Of course, it could always work out, sure, but I just don't think the fanbase for this show is at a point where it could support without the fun and novelty of the idea dying real quick.
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>>83606130
> Compare this thread to the last one in OP
If you are trying to say this thread is less active than the previous one, you have to consider there's another 200-reply active AT thread right now. That being said, a general is still a meh idea, mainly because there is a hiatus going on at the moment, so it will probably fail.
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>>83607284
Ah, true, I neglected to count that.
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>>83607284
I don't see any other thread.
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My thing is i hope AT keeps going. Its a interesting story of this magical fallout world and thats what brings me in. Also all the great waifus. And the war elephant that is some badass shit.
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>>83607953
They are discussing a low quality fan-made AT videogame, but then again who am I to judge: >>83582539
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>>83608097
> Also all the great waifus
AT is like a harem anime. There's a cool guy Finn who is totally math and his comedic wingman Jake. Then there are all the cute princesses with varying designs and characters. The main three are even somewhat reminiscent of your typical /a/ harem archetypes.
Except they all break up with / ignore Finn and he swims in existential depression instead of you know what.
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>>83608105
>low quality
Come on man, I don't really like it too much either but the work the guy put into it is pretty impressive.

If it was actually low quality there wouldn't be threads for it every time it updated.
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>>83608859
> the guy put into it is pretty impressive
It is impressive. Unfortunately, even impressive work by one dedicated dude is still low quality on a more grand scale, for me at least. I might be too critical because I don't like the really off-model style as well. Opinions, opinions. If the guy finds players (and it seems he's already done), all's great for him.
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>>83581098
That's a pretty descriptive title
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>>83608354
Well even if the whole harem thing didnt have to be in. Id still like it the world is large and has so many different things to it. And only girls that ignore finn is PB and Marcy. Some not so much.
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>>83589296

>Dabble art
>caters to my giant lady interests

Thanks, Christmas came early for my dick this year.
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>>83588917
There is a god.
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!
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>>83587527
HNNG HOLY SHIT
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>>83613537
Ok there are two gods.
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>>83613537
is that thingy a melting speech bubble?
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>>83613644
Yup
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>>83613724
that's hot
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>>83590001
this is fucking nasty
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>>83613537

I love it when people inlcude little details, like the clothes on her thigh. They even got the way the shoes are drawn correct.
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>>83614655
Thanks!
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>>83613537
Only critique is that Canyon is even huger than I think she's supposed to be, but as I recall her design changes size sometimes so whatever.

Good stuff either way.
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>>83614655
the apparent floppiness of his shoes was always kinda weird. what they made of?
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>>83614782
Whenever Finn puts them on they seem more like socks than sneakers or something.
Shit's weird but maybe that's just easier to draw and few people watching are likely to care about Finn's shoes.
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>>83614778
She's never been *that* huge, but if the official artists can't even be consistent, the porn artist might as well draw her according to his preferred fetish.
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>>83614836
I figure maybe they are like, leather gloves but for your feet. Back in the ancient times, best you could get for shoes was fabric tied around your ankles.

But yeah I'm sure the actual reason is lazy. Have you ever been so lazy you couldn't draw a pair of boots sitting upright? These people are why Finn can't have cool upgrades to his character mode.
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>>83615086
character model*
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>>83613537
Real good mang!
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>>83580565
I want to hear a new meaningful song. Ever since "A Prince Who Wanted Everything," there haven't been any actual songs in the genderbend episodes. Was hoping for one in the last. What better song than a Marceline song though.
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>>83587336
Proof Fubblefags are this desperate.
Finn sees Bonnibel as a bro get over it.
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>>83615864
realistically, if you were that in love with someone, you'll never see them as only just a friend. friendship is possible but you gotta think, is it worth the internal tension and pain you'll never totally get rid of?

librul brainwashing, I tell ya. they're trying to tell us that even though PB isn't much interested in Finn in any way, he should lay down and keep serving under her regardless, because it's not PC for him to claim any kind of "reward" from her.
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>>83614736

Wait, did you draw this? If so then good fucking job.
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>>83616122
Finn helps anyone in need. It isn't just because PB needs help, but sometimes its to solve something for multiple people. The only futile task PB has ever asked of Finn was asking which suit color she should wear. Finn helps anyone in need. Yes Finn had an attraction to Bonnibel in the past, but recent episodes heavily suggest otherwise. Fubblefags always ignore the fact Bonnibel doesn't show interest in Finn. When does she ever call Finn cute? Or complements him? Finn doesn't make a move on PB. I seriously doubt the writers were trying to implement something other than Finn sees PB as a bro.
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>>83587899
>You don't like me do you?
>I don't like me either
>Hey don't say that. I like you alright?
>Whatever
>Nah really!
Then I thought he took a moment to lift his ginormous penis
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>>83615086
they drew PB's sneakers in Stakes pretty well.
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>>83589126
wtf is this
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So the music hole is make or break right?
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>>83616605

Holy shit man don't do these things to my dick when I'm in public, I'm gonna have to get up from where I'm sitting soon.
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>>83616605
!!!!!!!!!!
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>>83616605
Any plans on Fin returning the favour?
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>>83617403
>she succ me
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>>83617776
She dooo
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>>83617908
I imagine their foreplay is like Shadow of the Colossus and he only gets his dick sucked if he can get to the top without being thrown off.
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>>83617908
!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( fucked up pretty badly on her right hand, but whatever, its a trashed sketch from yesterday. )
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>>83617940
That's a rad idea, maybe I should incorporate it into a sketch later...
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>>83617908

You are the best part of my day today, anon, just thought I'd let you know.
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>>83617908

You think he's about the right size to fit between her breasts?
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Thought I'd interrupt you guys' little waifu posting with something relavent.
>Marceline in a skirt/dress
Just stop.
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>>83618079
Thanks!! :D
I'm so glad it meant that much, I'll be making more, surely. This is all I got for now though.
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>>83616605
Damn this is some pretty high quality stuff done relatively quickly, good shit dude.
Also your speech bubbles are weird but kind of cool.
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>>83618221
Appears to be a short shirt and a long skirt.

And a helmet with a faceplate, for some reason.
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>>83618342

Got a tumblr or some other place where I can keep up on your work, man?
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>>83618380
Protecting from sunlight I think, like Skywitch.

I'm glad the boarders aren't just gonna use that bullshit sunscreen excuse and are still having Marcy protect herself in interesting ways.
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>>83618342
Man, you've got scenery and everything! Nice work!
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>>83618221
>Marceline in a skirt/dress
I'm not seeing a problem here.
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>>83618348
Thanks a lot! You can tell I put the most amount of effort into >>83613537 ( made it earlier today )
I was sitting down with >>83616605 tonight, and >>83617908 and >>83618342
were made yesterday.
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>>83618401
>tfw I cant insult a tumblrfag anymore because there are too many here that will defend them
feels bad man
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>>83618401
Not a nsfw one actually, but all of that stuff should make it to rule34 at some point. I have a sfw blog, but I dont actually keep up with Adventure Time much anymore, I mostly make Dark Souls fanart, animated films and gifs.
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>>83618446
Yes that skirt is a short skirt. It's also torn which complements her personality. That dress is long and prudish.
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>>83618454
Tumblr is just a website, dude.
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>>83618511
Cancer is just a disease, anon.
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>>83618454
Feels bad man...

>>83618401

Here's my cancer website:
http://linusalmroth.tumblr.com
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>>83618407
What episode was that 1M SPF sun block introduced in again? Inferencing from amazon, she is playing against someone in a battle of the bands. Do you guys know what I'm thinking?
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>>83618608
It hurts just to look at that link
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>>83618511
Just like anything its the people who use it not the thing it self.
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>>83618545
>Unironically doing the 'muh website wars' thing.

You do know that the sjw 'cancer' is everywhere, right? It's even here to some degree.
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>>83618608
>Those Crossbreed Priscilla posts.

Good taste.
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>>83581314
While I agree with the costume choice, you couldn't have possibly picked and uglier interpretation of PB.

The artist of this should have their hands chopped off by the government to prevent another atrocity like this from happening.
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>>83618704
>some degree
Anon I think youre confusing the word pandemic
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>>83618732
Thanks, another giant woman I guess...
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>>83581098
well got to the end
that game is weirdly nostalgic, like a very clean PS1 action platformer. I like it
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>>83618446
That's practically a shirt
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>>83618732
Well, more Canyon things to come, See ya!
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>>83618929
Godspeed you beautiful being.
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>>83618501

Hey man, I like the art style so it is still worth checking. Bonus points to you though if you got any more artwork involving giant ladies.
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>>83616878
Her charm point.
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>>83587527
Holy shit, this is the hottest interpretation of Marceline I've ever seen.

Is this from the show or just artistic liberties? Either way I will suck the dick of any drawfag who draws more of Marcy looking like this.
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>>83618870
>>83618509
If I had known we were going cherry picking, I would have brought a basket.
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>>83618853
Can't blame you. They're the best girls.
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>>83619167
It's her What Was Missing design with short hair and a line under each eye. Small changes can have huge impacts.
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Should I watch this show?
I have seen a lot of episodes but I never really sat down and watched them all in order like SU or something.
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>>83619277
You're right, and you know, those details really pull together that outfit much better then the original episode design.
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>>83618342
>>83616605
>>83613537
Holy shit.
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>>83613537
>>83616605
>>83617908
>>83618342
Not only is this great and you did them quick as hell, you did both Canyon designs we've seen so far! Shit man, that's great/ You're amazing yo.
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>>83583548
is that sicknyasty
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>PB and Marcy getting new outfits constantly
its kinda annoying even if it could have good art outcome
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>>83620205
>you did them quick as hell
It's like you're not reading the thread, anon. >>83618448
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>>83619167
>>83619277
Ate you sure it isn't just Marshal Lee?
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>>83583443
She holds up fine, although my opinion is biased because I like Marceline.
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>>83619558
We're already like 240 episodes in. I'm rewatching the series and am burned out at season 2. I'd recommend watching it from the begginging, although story arcs don't really become noticeable until season 3. The show progressively starts to focus more on characters, rather than the land of Ooo. By characters, I mean an episode focusing on a specific character, rather than exploring Ooo altogether. Episodes also begin to have more meaning to them, emotions.
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>>83626416
I think anon likes androgynous Marceline.
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>>83627764
>begginging
beginning
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bump, I think
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Do you guys think there will ever be an Adventure Time movie? What would you want it to be about?
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>>83629375
Wasn't one already confirmed?
I suppose it could do what Narutodoes and just have some random adventure in some faraway place.
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>>83629375
Pen is already working on it. He's taking his time because apparently he wants it to be perfect.
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>>83629560
>>83629526
Maybe going to be something like with finn being last human or something. But even then id still like AT. Im just amazed how large and insane the world is. Other then SU where so far all ive seen is the barn and no real action since then.
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>>83616666
>When does she ever call Finn cute? Or complements him?
I hate fubblegum and don't support it any bit, but I know she's said in an earlier season episode "oh finn you're so cute" and she's said for sure at least once he looks good in an outfit or whatnot
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>>83618608
Hey, aren't you the guy who made I Can't Breathe? That's cool as shit, dude
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>>83630410
> "oh finn you're so cute"
Yeah, it doesn't mean shit. When you are 11, every older girl says you are cute and pats you on the head. Then when you are 13 they stop and call you weird if you try to get some hugs (PB does that in the show too, in the first FP episode). And then you grow up messed up and with a thing for older women.
The reason fubblegum fags are so diehard is because admitting that the pairing is never gonna happen hurts because it's so realistic.
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>>83616666
Ey, if we're strictly talking about before FP, she notices his crush many a time (Richardio The Heart Guy, The Real You, Mortal Folly/Recoil/Too Young, Go With Me, What Was Missing.) According to PB herself in Too Young, she'd stay 13 with Finn if she didn't have the kingdom's responsibilities.

Also, Also people have been saying in the episode commentary of Too Young, the writers scrapped young Bubblegum because they didn't know how to incorporate her into Finn and Jake's adventures. This in particular pisses me off because they turned around and did it again with Flame Princess.

Though I wouldn't mind Fubble, I find Finnceline more fun and compatible anyways.
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>>83631072
>many a time
stopped reading there, fuck you thats annoying
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>>83631091
manyatime
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>>83631072
> they turned around and did it again with Flame Princess
FP has never been a part of F&J adventures, though. She only dungeoneered with Finn once, it was a planned date rather than an actual adventure, and she wasn't doing anything particularly interesting. Her powers are shown to be too destructive to use on a casual basis and she doesn't bring anything else really.
> the writers scrapped young Bubblegum because they didn't know how to incorporate her into Finn and Jake's adventures
Yeah, calling bullshit on that one. Smart girl and action-oriented boys is the textbook children show/book stuff.
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>>83631194
it's just retarded when you respond the same thing, that doesn't bother me as just saying it in your normal way, fucking faggot
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>>83630410
I'm talking about right now. How is season 1 even relavent at this point?
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>>83631754
I think season 1 and 2 are mostly phased out by now
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Finn and Jake confirmed in Lego Dimensions E3 trailer, with Harry Potter, ET and Sonic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WQfRL4qD4M
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>>83631928
Oh, i forgot someones: Teen Titans GO, Ghostbuster reboot characters, Mission Impossible and The A team.
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>>83587532
yeah but look at marceline, jake is spooked by her. so its just playing off of that.
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>>83590001
sauce?
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>>83634009
So this is the finished product, not bad. Never understood giant fetishes.
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>Battle of the Bands
We already know Marceline is going to be in it, the last band I remember her being apart in was a quintet in "What Was Missing." Anyone else hoping for this?
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>>83635282
>>83635273
who drew these
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>>83635453
Gashi-gashi
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>>83634009

Why don't they do more with her?
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>>83637443
I don't know if the creators are aware that she has a fan following.
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>>83631928
Why isn't the waist piece dark blue?
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>>83637443
Considering how long it took to get a Huntress Wizard episode, you shouldn't expect to see Canyon for a while, especially since her and Finn don't really have much reason to hang.
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Boy howdy, did I forget how tricky animation was! This is very much a WIP!
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>>83640979
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>>83640979
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>>83640979

Neat! What is happening exactly?
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>>83641454
looks like shes pulling her giant elastic nipples
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>>83641568
At this point it may as well be, but the final product will be her pulling on her tank-top straps.
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>>83631266
>calling bullshit on that one.
Pretty sure writers said so here on the chan. It was too much of a change from the original dynamic and they were confuuuussed.
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>>83641676
Yeah that was my first guess but i just like to imagine things~
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>>83631072
>This in particular pisses me off because they turned around and did it again with Flame Princess.
Aside from whatever Sugar's wishes were, I think the entire point of FP was made out to be "what's it like to kill your relationship and be sad about it". Like the only reason they were together was to break up.
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>>83641930
I just wish that they had a more natural reason than 'Finn must appease his random, magical fetish dreams.'

A better reason to break-up was the fact that Phoebe was born to be evil and destructive and Finn might not be able to change that.

Or something, I dunno.
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>>83616666
PB doesn't need help at all compared to the other residents of Ooo. She's an immortal robot-army-creating super scientist diety, and if she wants to keep making ultra-vulnerable citizens that can't even take care of themselves, she can protect them herself. There are lots of puffball people and berry people out there who need Finn more.

He's sticking to her like glue because she's familiar (and probably very pretty). Not that's that's wrong or anything but it's not a 100% practical decision.
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I just binge-watched a couple seasons, still liking the show but I feel like the earlier episodes had a completely different charm to them. I'm not sure if that's just my nostalgia or if it's generally agreed upon.

What did you guys think of pic related as a whole? I was really surprised that they made a coherent 8-parter, and I really enjoyed it. I was impressed and thought the action was pretty good. I'm probably biased though, considering I've been a Marceline fag since "Evicted" aired.
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>>83642381
> She's an immortal robot-army-creating super scientist diety
Yeah, and she still gets kidnapped by Ice King regularly.
> He's sticking to her like glue because she's familiar (and probably very pretty)
I was also under the impression that the Candy Kingdom was simply the closest one geographically to the grasslands and the treefort.
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>>83642488
>I was also under the impression that the Candy Kingdom was simply the closest one geographically to the grasslands and the treefort.
Yeah. But Finn's supposed to be a far-and-wide adventurer no? Basically the show's ended up implying he's more of homebody and wants security and repetitiveness more than fun. Typical human, marry him off to a little woman and they'll have their babies.

>she still gets kidnapped by Ice King regularly.
only because they try to force her into her old role sometimes. it doesn't make sense anymore tho, she should be able to handle herself, just like she has before Finn the weak little human boy was ever born.
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>>83642488
>Yeah, and she still gets kidnapped by Ice King regularly.
Which is a fact that totally doesn't mesh with the current show and PB at all.
She's a million years old and a super genius and some old idiot with magical Alzheimer's is still able to get the jump on her? How the hell did she deal with him in the hundreds of years before Finn existed?
Some people say PB is letting her kidnap him but that's basically people saying "No don't you get it, Bubblegum is just pretending to be retarded."

Holdover from the earlier seasons that is only ever brought up now because the writers are scared of totally letting go of that ancient status quo.
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>>83642700
> Finn's supposed to be a far-and-wide adventurer no?
No he isn't? He isn't shown to leave grasslands for extended periods of time, he does some job nearby and gets home by the evening.
> he's more of homebody and wants security and repetitiveness more than fun
You can still have fun staying in one place or even sitting at home. There was in fact an entire episode specifically dedicated to that idea.
> Typical human, marry him off to a little woman and they'll have their babies
Yes, they've even shown that happening in the pillowfort episode. Do you imply that's a "bad" thing?
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>>83642423
I thought it was okay at the beginning, and cool at the middle, but I feel that the end was kind of cheap. Song at the end was nice, though.
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>>83642295
that would require Finn/FP to 1) hang out enough to get fed up with each other and 2) discuss it and/or fight about it. this isn't Steven Universe anon! people don't communicate around these parts, they act blindly and face the consequences.
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>>83642423
It was alright. The best part were the villains and the fact that so many secondary and minor characters got appearances, as well as the song.
For their first big venture at trying something like this out it was a pretty decent job.

Lots of things I wasn't too big on though. It totally erased Marceline's early self to the point that her in the flashback's was like the antithesis to the character that existed in season 1 with no logical reason for her to be that way.
The handling of PB's plotline was amazingly lazy, and the status quo was lame even if they tried covering it up with their Everything Stay's bullshit.
The thing was pitched as a group effort but Finn and Jake were practically sidekicks with little genuine interaction with other characters or impact on the plot, and Finn's portrayal was awful and just a way to get cheap jokes shoved in somewhere.

So it had a good share of stuff I liked and stuff I disliked, but overall I give it a low 7/10. If they do another miniseries like it I hope they improve on it.
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>>83643030
My thoughts exactly. The ending felt kind of lame but everything being cyclical is the point, I guess. Doesn't really justify it though. Like you said, the ending song was really nice. gave me minor feels.
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>>83643145
>that many major complaints
>7/10
stop reading IGN
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>>83643207
Eh, I still liked lots of it. If the villains weren't all so interesting and cool I would give it like a 4/10 or something, they really carried the thing.
Guess I'm trying to be generous since its their first time doing this sort of thing.
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>>83643145
> totally erased Marceline's early self
This.
> Stackes show that Marceline hates vampires and has lived through her father-figure being temporarily converted by the Empress
> season 2 Marceline casually jokes about turning Finn and Jake into vampires and has a lot of fun with the prank before the ghosts ruin it
Totally the same character with no retcons in sight. Everything has stayed the same.
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>>83643360
Early Marcy was proud of the fact that she was the vampire queen and cockily used her powers to show off and Stakes tries telling us that she became a vamp due to vampire rape and got all those powers killing off the vamps to protect humans?

Come on guys, at least remember stuff from your own show. Give us a few half assed reasons to excuse this retconning.
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>>83642996
It's not always clear how long they're gone for. But maybe they really are pansies who always sleep in their own beds.

>Do you imply that's a "bad" thing?
it's annoying they feel the need to make F/J so soft and lazy. The show's strength is distant lands and monsters so... do that. The fact they never ever get sick of Candy Kingdom makes me think Bubblegum is the real main character.
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>>83643571
The show's always hung around the main hub even when it was at its most adventuer-iest dude. Sure they'll go to a different land of teleport to a new dimension every season finale but they're never going on a world spanning quest (except maybe in the movie).

They changed Finn and Jake from homeless vagabonds to guys who live in a tree house for a reason.
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Honestly, I would be fine with Candy Kingdom staying the focus if they didn't spend a full season making PB the most unlikable character ever.
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>>83643628
>They changed Finn and Jake from homeless vagabonds to guys who live in a tree house for a reason.
yeah, dumb reasons. I heard it was originally because execs insisted F+J have a house.

But the show wants the focus to be Candy Kindgom for some reason now, even without Finn and Jake in the picture. Like they'd rather do eps about random candy people than whatever Finn's doing offscreen (which I think is a lot).
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>>83644100
They've kind of expanded on the CK citizens I guess, and if they wanna get new oneshots for an episode that seems like a very convenient location to use.

Plus it's basically the only place in Ooo that's a big city type thing (aside from Wizard City and City of Thieves I guess) so that can be used for a lot of plots.
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>>83644205
I can understand that reasoning for a plot-based show... but there was a time where the characters would be in new random villages all the time, like Ooo was infinite (it's fictional, so it IS). We didn't have to know the where, how, or why. You could theoretically do that forever.

Staying in the same area all the time is like digging deeper and deeper into a well that's already empty.
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>>83644605
You have the explanation written in your post. There was a time when the show didn't care about continuity, but now it does. First they make a one-shot episode about a clerk obsessed with detective stuff and make him the chief of the guard. Then they realize that means banana guards can't stay stupid and ineffective, so they kill the chief off. Then they have to make another episode about him coming back to life because you can't kill characters permanently here, unless their name is Billy. Basically every episode that doesn't end in an absolute status-quo has to be continued now, the number of the secondary characters gets out of control and Finn and Jake get shoved out of the focus. Sucks, but this is the price you pay for the "worldbuilding" and "lore". Not that I want any, but oh well.
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>>83643360
>>83643438
obviously that's how she deals with trauma.

like a rape victim who decides they liked it and seeks it out again.

and then, after she met up with Ice King again and had major sadtimes, all her rape trauma came rushing back and her personality once again did a 180.

my opinion is fact.
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>>83645008
Makes as much sense as anything else in the show.
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>>83644963
>Then they have to make another episode about him coming back to life because you can't kill characters
I still don't get why something this miniscule had to be undone. They think we care so damn much about RBG, we have to know he's not really dead? I don't like this trend where they expect us to bond with new characters pretty much instantly.
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Guys, Daddy Daughter Card Wars will air on July 7th. And some Season 8 info:

>Season 8 is scheduled to premiere later this year and will follow Finn and Jake to unchartered lands as they seek to answer one of the show’s biggest mysteries, and save all of Ooo from a powerful new threat.

http://www.awn.com/news/cn-expands-adventure-time-franchise-multi-platform-card-wars-sequel?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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>>83646608
If I were a more naive lad that description would actually make me hype.
Sounds cool, maybe this is another one of those series Shada mentioned in an interview.

Definitely more Lichy poo and maybe shit about humans (Finn's mom and Susan Strong?); not the most creative plot ideas but easily could be excellent depending on how they handle it.
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>>83646608
Source for Daddy-Daughter Card Wars air date?
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>>83647510
You may want to read the article he linked.
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>>83642381
>hurr durr ALL MIGHTY UTERUS
If Bonnibel is so independent why does she personally ask Finn for assistance?
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>>83642700
She even admitted herself she can't even get rid of Varmints. Did you not watch that episode? She is overwhelmed, theoretically she can handle herself, but she can't individually manage an entire kingdom. Take that independent WOMYN trash back to tumblr
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>>83647808
Because that's what she did at the start of the show and they haven't changed it even though Bubblegum has gotten development showing that, logically, she would barely need Finn for anything.

>>83647864
Jesus, you really got an odd impression from that guy's posts. He's complaining that PB's current character doesn't make sense and you're seeing nothing but social bullshit in there.
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>>83642807
>ancient status quo
>not watching "Elemental"
Ice King isn't a retard, he is gullible and desperate. In one of the more recent episodes he froze Bonnibel and took her to the Ice Kingdom. Bonnibel may be 1,000 years old and super intelligent, but all that goes out the window when you realize she is susceptible to being captured by ambush.
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>>83647942
>Ice King isn't a retard, he is gullible and desperate.
He used to be effective circa like season 1 and 2 where he was more of a villain, but past that point the show amped his patheticness up by a million percent so it's not like he's much of a threat.

And I'm sure a princess who created an army of killer robots, sentient gumball gods, monitored every square inch of Ooo, and can create living beings and live forever would be able to deal with a goofy guy with ice powers.
That Bubblegum would have just offed his annoying ass hundreds of years before Finn was even born, it's not like she hasn't done worse.
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>>83647914
>implying the comics are canon to the series
Forget the question anyway, I pretty much answered it in another reply. Albeit I knew the answer I just wanted to know why you think that "hurr she needs no man"
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>>83648054
Bonnibel hasn't always had the best defenses. A sprawling kingdom yes, but that just makes it all the more vulnerable. Watch "Susan Strong" You exagerate her ablities, and swaying away Ice King's. He can create an infinite army of snow monsters, and spread a plague over the Candy Kingdom by just shedding his beard. Not even Phoebe can defeat him. Like I said, all that completely is bypassed when you see how OP the ability to freeze things is.
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>>83648054
Bonnibel isn't always prepared for everything, anon. You'd think that if she were to think about Finn's backpack, the Lich would still be in an amber prison. She would have lost her entire kingdom to zombies, if it werent for Finn. She is vulnerable, just like everyone else. Enough with that invincible womyn bull crap
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>>83647914
Yeah you also would be dead or without a kingdom if it werent for that boy and dog. Maybe you aren't as powerful as you thought.
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>>83648196
She's had hundreds of years and she was already well on her way in The Vault, plus she's had Gumball Guardians forever.
I'm exaggerating her shit as much as the later seasons of the show do, where she's an immortal genius detective scientist kung-fu master.

All of Ice King's powers are rendered null by the fact that he's always too crazy to use them effectively. He's had his moments of strength but realistically he wouldn't be a serious threat against God Emperor Bubblegum at all.

>>83648268
Coincidentally, those things were from the earlier seasons of the show where she wasn't crazy competent at everything and legitimately seemed to need Finn and Jake's help.

This isn't a case of me being like "Omg strong woman character bless this show screw those boys" it's a case of me criticizing Bubblegum's character writing.
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>>83648340
I understand what you mean, but still in the early stages of her Kingdom, there wasn't a threat of a whole lot. My point is that even though Bonnibel has been shown to handle herself in certain occasions, she is still vulnerable. Irrelavent of how old these things are, should we ignore her creations and actions pre-season 1 since outdated? Bonnibel didn't go invincible vulnerable and then invincible. She has always been vulnerable, which is why that subject is irrelavent. I'm not implying that Finn, Jake, and Ice King are not vulnerable, it's just the situation, not the writing. What good is all that intelligence martial arts and robots good for if you can't throw away trash without being captured? Bonnibel by herself, is not capable of defending herself from Ice King. By herself, no gadgets or whatever. Her writing is fine, but Ice King isn't some idiot, stop potraying him as such. He is insane, his mind isnt right, and that alone is why Finn and Jake aren't frozen in Ice, and all the Princesses arent in his cage.
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>>83648340
Bonnibel isn't even immortal. Immortality doesn't excuse vulnerability. She even admitted to her own mortality in "Goliad" Although gender-bend, Gumball's greatest fear in his mortality. If she needs help she will ask for it. Your point being it isn't necessary, well thats not shit writing thats trying not to make it a one man show
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>>83648611
>Bonnibel didn't go invincible vulnerable and then invincible.
You're thinking of this like it's real life and not a story people are writing. In universe it seems to be that this is the way PB's personality went ever since they made her so competent in the present as well as the past.

The stuff from season 1 has kind of by and large been erased, aside from some tiny things the show still gives callbacks to (like the candy people occasionally exploding when scared).

>>83648673
If she isn't killed by something she's never gonna die, that's pretty damn close to immortal to me.
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>>83648739
>not knowing what immortal means
Anon Bonnibel was about die, the only reason she was alive was because they saved her. Immortal means cannot die, deathless. These deities can give up their immortality, but will never die. Just because the writers are won't kill off PB in the show, doesn't mean she is immortal. Might as well say Finn is immortal, am I right? Think about it. Think about all the trauma and shit this kid has been through but is still alive. Seems pretty immortal to me.
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>>83648947
PB can live till the end of time as long as a big monster doesn't step on her or she falls in a well of icky goey magic, so she's not on the same level of a human who will likely be dead before he's 80 years old.

That's also totally irrelevant to my point which is that she's been alive for some 800 odd years and has had all that time to become super strong and shit.

If PB wasn't apparently a dofus she would realize that if she makes a suit of power armor or something she would literally be 99% immortal.
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>>83648739
That's where you're wrong. Bonnibel's ambition and and psychopathic personality has been ever-present throughout the series. In "What Have You Done," she would willing beat someone for them to shriek despite them unintentionally doing nothing wrong. She was only fine with Finn and Jake's alternative because they let him go. Besides, Bonnibel isn't a total psycho; she allowed the door lords to live. What in season 1 has been dismantled? She has acted the same across the entire series.
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>>83649047
That's not what immortal means, what is so hard for you to understand this? There are species of jellyfish that are biologically immortal, but that isn't the same thing as being immortal, she is living. Think about reanimated undead. You don't kill them, they are already dead. You don't necessarily kill zombies. You just stop them from functioning. That isn't the same as being immortal. The only exception is giving up their immortality. Yes the argument that she could have done this out if hindsight is meaningless. Your argument is Bonnibel now, and now she isn't capable of being on her own. Building things to defend yourself that are in turn sentient doesn't count either. No one cares about how you think something SHOULD have gone.
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>>83646608
>literally no one caring about this
This sounds really awesome, maybe finale tier stuff. Wonder if season 8 will be the end and this will be the big event to close it while the movie (if it isn't canceled) will be some sort of epilogue to wrap everything up.
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>>83647904
But she does need help. She admitted in Varmints and is evident in that episode. She can't manage everything on her own, why do you think the Gumball Guardians and Banana Guards were created? What is with you and another anon discouraging treating this as if it were a real life scenario? That's what you do if you're trying to interpret something is this you anons' first time doing this?
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>>83649271
These are literally irrelevant semantics, she's close to being immortal and that's what I'm saying.
Fuck, Marceline and Ice King are immortal too yet they can still get killed by stuff, so it's not a big deal at all.
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>>83649092
Her psychopathy used to be more for laughs. She was petty and had fits of anger. That PB was less dangerous than the new one who's generally calm and emotionless (because she's quietly analyzing her Master Plan, I suppose).
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>>83649495
what's the next step of her master plan?
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>>83649436
Marceline is living undead, and Ice King isn't immortal. His crown is keeping him alive. Pretty much like how he almost died in "Ricardio" without his heart. And why Bonnibel needed to make him a new one in "Lady and Peebles." Close to being immortal, isn't immortal. And I already explained that even if she was immortal, that wouldn't make her invincible. Why are you still pushing this? Regardless of PB's accomplishments, she has been proven to be vulnerable under certain situations.
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>>83649525
Expand her kingdom? She's an egomaniac, that's why her kingdom even exists.
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>>83649601
The crown makes him immortal, stop trying to twist around every tiny detail to make yourself right.
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>>83649617
I was just Baneposting
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>>83649495
I hate it when people are assuming too much and completely derails this argument. Her insanity being for satire doesn't excuse it. I bet that i current PB was all calm and lady-like with no darker history you'd be complaining how it was never explained in any future episodes. Peppermint Butler's darkside was for satire too, until that episode where he turns a mans children into mutants. This was actually part of the plot of that episode. Why does no one care?
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>>83597305
there're random bits here and there, I posted the major ones

it's called Bottom's Up AU

be super wary when searching for it, chances are you'll find the artist's blog which is a gross pile of tranny shit and absolutely disgusting fan art
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>>83649633
That's what I said, the crown keeps him alive with its magic. But Simom Petrikov isn't immortal. And it's not even that, he literally was about to die in "Ricardio" I'm not twisting around anything. I don't care so much about being right, but that people understand what is.
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>>83649684
>absolutely disgusting fan art
Like what you're posting?

This guy's stuff has always been shit.
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>>83649715
>not shipping Finnceline
shit taste baka
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>>83649706
Simon Petrikov is Ice King who is immortal with the crown, I don't understand why you refuse to admit this.

He can die but immortal characters can still be killed, immortal doesn't necessarily mean invincible or unable to die. There are other characters in that like Hunson who have explicitly been said to be 'deathless.'
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>>83649715
it is you who are shit here, anon
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>>83649758
Finnceline is a great ship but that guy's art is all weird AU's and gross sappy shit.
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>>83649633
I actually argued this before now that I recall. Ice King was said that he'd be that until the sun blows up by Death. Until. Death didn't say forever. So he isn't immortal. Where Death lives isn't on the celestial Earth, but another dimension.
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>>83649661
>Her insanity being for satire doesn't excuse it
I guess what I'm trying to say is her "evil" qualities eventually began to define her entire personality, rather than just being a funny contrast to her sweet princessness (which she no longer has).

Like, I could genuinely believe season 2 PB could be friends with Finn. There was room for fun and love in her heart. Now though? RUN BOY. RUUUNNNNN
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>>83649825
So now you're arguing that no one is immortal?
I don't think it's a stretch to say he's immortal up to a point (such as the sun going supernova).
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>>83649825
That's just an expression for "forever".
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>>83649760
Immortal-living forever; never dying or decaying.
That's the definition.
>>83649825 Further explanation here on why I refuse to admit this. If you are going to take the route the guy in that argument I mentioned. You can start by saying Death is wrong, and you know more than someone who is immortal. Also his argument somewhat supports this one. On how the flying Ice Creature seen in Graybles 1000+, may or may not be the Ice King. The only possibility that it is, is supported by what death said. Opposing would imply a continuity error.
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>>83649651
shit
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This discussion actually reminds me that I wish character's age mattered more than pretty much just Finn, Jake, and Flame Princess (I guess?) legitimately aging.

Bubblegum, Marceline, and Ice King are all super old and likely gonna keep being around for a whole lot longer, and even others like LSP and Lady Rainicorn haven't rally had explicit age mentioned and seem to be long lasting and unchanging just like the immortals.

Not really sure that this is a legitimate problem but it makes characters less interesting I think.
Wonder if there's kind of something planned like a spinoff super far in the future or the past and that's why they made so many characters so long lasting.
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>>83649788
>not enjoying the sappy shit the most
>as prophesied by sucrose herself

eat it
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>>83649906
>not understand astronomy
Anon, the dead worlds and alternate dimensions exist outside of Earth's realm, so these things will continue to exist. When the Sun expands, destroying all life in Ooo, where presumably Ice King will be due to what Death said, these other worlds still exist. There is so much more that will happen after our Sun's expansion explained though cosmology.
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>>83649428
>She admitted in Varmints and is evident in that episode
you mean "wahhh can't you see my sweet sugar tears?!" the episode? I merely want to point out how extremely OOC she was there.

anyway damn, if she needs help being a crazy bitch, she can make more robots and creatures to serve her. WAHHH MARCELINE KISS AWAY MY TEARS!
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>>83650012
>>83650023
Bub
Line
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>>83649844
Bonnibel is still as charming as she was when introduced. I will admit her darker side was looked into more, but if they hadn't I'd bet anything you guys would complain.
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>>83649944
>never dying or decaying
As in from age, that don't necessarily mean they don't die if you remove their brain from their body or launch them into space or submerge them in a volcano.
Typically, unless a character in a legitimate god or something, immortal characters are just the not dying from old age and able to live forever part and not the literally can't die no matter what part.

Based on the literal definition I think we're both kind of right but come on man, the characters are fucking immortal brah.
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>>83650043
never!
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>>83650041
It's not OOC, the show has established that nuBubblegum is a cold stoic hardass in everything aside from Marceline where she becomes emotional and cries all the time and is always initiating physical contact.

It's when she acts like that to other people that she's OOC.
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>>83649867
I didn't imply that, I'm stating the three individuas you mentioned do not count as immortals. Death is a great example of someone who is immortal. If they "can" die, they are not immortal.
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>>83650081
it's over

your image? over

this image? ogre

praise the new age of lesbians and fall in line like >>83650095 has
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>>83650135
Hey man, I'm just regurgitating what the show says.
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>>83650062
>living forever
Stop cutting around the edges. They can die. So they are not immortal. Removing the brain from an entity is pointless, as they would still be alive. Nothing can kill what is immortal. Abraham Lincoln exchanged his immortality, which is the only way.
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>>83650056
My complaint is they won't look into it enough. She'd be great as a villain. That would actually be, wow, development. Something new.

They want her to continue being as she's always been, but in show that's not nearly as funny anymore.
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>>83650203
>she'd be great as a villain
Really? A pretty pink teenager as a villain? She isn't evil, what is so hard for /co/ to get this through their heads. She will do anything to ensure the safety of her people. That isn't evil. She isn't spying on Ooo for pleasure, she is doing it so someone doesn't invade her kingdom. She isnt commiting genocide, the robots defective and will cause harm to the citizens.
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>>83650095
She cried a lot when marceline almost died in stakes
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>>83650315
... which is further emphasizing the point I made in the post you quoted.
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>>83650292
>villains have to be evil
There are so many villains out there who are like "I'm not evil I'm doing this for a good cause bla bla" and that's exactly what PB's MO would be. Not all villains are baby rapists who murder people for fun, some could be those who think they are doing evil things for ultimately good reasons.

Speaking in terms of the show, it is very odd how they had PB's morally dubious acts kind of build up for a while and ultimately just have it end with her going "Wow I'm a jerk" and back off. That's a good amount of buildup for such a flaccid fart of a resolution.
But AT does that a lot so I guess I can't single that out.
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>>83650095
What is wrong with showing emotion? Marceline has been though a lot she has full permission to break down. The only difference in Marceline from when she was a todler, to her current state, is the radical dame she was when introduced. She stopped acting like this since "Heat Signature," she genuinely sees them as friends up until that point. Rather than when she was about to kill Finn in "It From the Nightosphere." She would just mess with them. Have none of you guys seen that episode? Its meant to be emotional you know. At least the original version looked more that way. Kinda irritates me they didn't use the original; it would have made a greater impact.
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>>83650292
>A pretty pink teenager as a villain?
yeah dingus, that's was why her original personality was funny. Cute pink girls aren't supposed to act like that.

But know that we know she's an ageless gum golem freak, it's not so weird that she is like this.

>She will do anything to ensure the safety of her people.
Ah, but she made them in the first place because she's massively powerhungry and needs to control others. Why not more and more and more? Perfect background for a villain.

I think I get the rationale now. Mothers are justified in doing any unsavory thing as long it's for their children, right?
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>>83650449
How is a villain good? Is the Duke of Nuts a villain? You make no sense anon. Ice King was an antagonist because he was socially handicapped. It wasn't until he actually made friends with Finn and Jake, and realized what friendship is when he stopped acting like this. There is an entire episode dedicated to this topic when Ice King makes his furniture sentient.
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>>83650553
Nice strawman fallacy. Where do you get power hungry? If anything she doesn't enjoy her kingdom being such a hassle to control. In Varmint she explains this. Don't you think if Bonnibel was making lifeforms for the purpose of taking over other kingdoms, they wouldn't be cutsy and 2 feet tall?
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>>83650555
Dude, reading comprehension.
>doing evil things for ultimately good reasons
It's the "evil things" part of that which makes them a villain. Because, you know, villains are generally villains because they do evil things.
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>>83650555
Well a villain only has to be an antagonist -- someone who opposes the goals of the protagonist . Moral judgments don't even have to come into play.
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So basically Bonnibel in the premise of the show always seemed to have some sort of darker side. It wasn't until season 5 when episodes actually heavily featured this darker side further explaining it. And that is somehow recent? Only to later ignore why she does these things in the later episode.
I'll never understand you guys, or why you all insist she is candy hitler.
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>>83650636
What does Bonnibel do that's evil? Or evil enough for her to be the major antagonist towards Finn and Jake. If she was the villain for the show, I'm pretty sure you guys would say the irony has worn off, or the joke isn't funny anymore because of her appearance.
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>>83650627
>Don't you think if Bonnibel was making lifeforms for the purpose of taking over other kingdoms, they wouldn't be cutsy and 2 feet tall?
She made them that way because she likes to control the helpless.

>If anything she doesn't enjoy her kingdom being such a hassle to control.
I guess she could argue she's like a mommy who regrets having kids, but it's been centuries already. Pretty sure she enjoys her experiments, at the end of the day, or she'd stop making more.

In any case, like >>83650449 said they derailed any potential escalation by showing she wants to be less of a jerk I guess. So it's probably too late to make her go full batshit.
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>>83650683
So what should Bonnibel do that is enough for a hassle to our protagonist? I asume evil because that's why anons even brought up her being a villain. All the "evil" doing she does.
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>>83650806
The joke already hasn't been funny enough for years bro.

She does "morally dubious" stuff all the time so what's to say she'll never take it a tiny step farther and go into full out villainy tier? Shit, the incident from The Cooler was practically that but it all got settled down in that episode so there would be no World War Ooo in the show.
It's not hard to imagine that she'd one day decide to take things to the next level in some way.
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>>83650843
>control the helpless
Well you just contradicted your first statement, if they're helpless how will they even be able to invade anything? She enjoys them sure, but in Varmints, which is season 7, she doesn't want it to be so much of a burden. She never even started going batshit.
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>>83650754
Her personality has absolutely changed, it's not just about uncovering her backstory. I'm pretty sure none of that backstory was planned from the start btw, because she's now way too powerful for the original concept to make sense.
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>>83650900
It's not a joke anymore then "bro". If you feel a mere joke can be implemented into full fledged tyrant, it isnt a joke anymore. If you are saying she is about to go all out, the joke is done. She didn't even go all out in "The Cooler". The ancient fire elementals were a threat to her kingdom, eliminating threats so it isnt a problem in the future is the exact opposite of how you are interpreting it.
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>>83650978
Change powerful to complex. Thats because the show wanted to be continuous. So what if Bonnibel isn't the exact same as she was when the series premiered. No one is, get over it. The same anons saying something new should happen are the same ones complaining that changes are happening
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>>83650924
If she was gonna stage an invasion, I assume she'd use robots she doesn't mind being killed.

But it doesn't have to be as drastic as that. You'd just take "I'll do anything for my kingdom" to its logical end. She'll do something we still cannot forgive. Most obvious situation: what if she had to choose between losing everything, and letting Finn die. Would she really save him?
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>>83651005
>It's not a joke anymore then "bro".
Exactly, the show plays it seriously which wipes away the humor PB originally had.

And
>potentially genociding a kingdom full of innocent citizens because they have stuff that MIGHT be used against you in the future
Yep, all completely morally acceptable behavior, Bubblegum did nothing wrong there.
Fuck off bro.
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>>83651070
Obviously not. What kind of idiotic question is that? How does one life, outweigh the lives and needs of an entire kingdom? How does that one life outweigh hundreds of years of building a kingdom? Finn would probably agree to be sacrificed if it meant to save everything for Princess Bubblegum; he knows this. You don't kill robots what are you autistic? Robots dont feel emotion, they can be programmed to have artificial personalities.
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>>83648054
>And I'm sure a princess who created an army of killer robots, sentient gumball gods, monitored every square inch of Ooo, and can create living beings and live forever would be able to deal with a goofy guy with ice powers.
>That Bubblegum would have just offed his annoying ass hundreds of years before Finn was even born, it's not like she hasn't done worse.

I honestly am beginning to think the relationship between IK and PB is a lot more complex than what is let on. I know I know, it's like EVERY character interaction these days is deep meaningful, but I feel like it's starting to go down that road.
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>>83651066
no I mean, she is too OP now. somebody else explained, up here >>83642807

So the problem is she changed but the show wants to pretend she did not. If they'd actually admitted how much more serious and dire her personality has become, the show could have developed into more of a drama I guess.
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>>83651209
That would actually be a pretty decent way to fill that plothole but the show's never seemed to give a shit about PB and Ice King's relationship other than "He kidnaps her sometimes."

Broke His Crown also made it seem like PB barely knows him aside from his harassing her so I don't think it's too likely.
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>>83651083
>fuck off
Fuck off shill you're the one implying destroying threats is villainous. Destroying robots isn't the same as genocide. Robots aren't people. I'm not implying moral, I'm implying ensuring the safety of others. We recieved threats about 9/11 before it happened. I guess we should have done nothing, since at that time the threat MAY have been true. It's about ensuring safety anon. That doesn't make her villainous.
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>>83651083
So first you say the show's joke has been funny for years, and now you say something totally different. Make up your mind.
>>83651241
Why do you autist blow everything out of proportion?
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>>83651278
Way to completely ignore the fact that PB was endangering all the innocent citizens of the fire kingdom by doing that, people who did nothing to her in any way. I wasn't talking about the robots you damn dumbass.

PB was whiling to kill a kingdom's worth of people to protect her own interests, that's basically evil. Finn's killed bad guys for less than that.
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>>83651241
You're completely disregarding the replies to this. FUCKING READ THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT GOD DAMMIT
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>>83651331
It's a joke that was played serious and served to stop being funny and ultimately stop being a joke at all.
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>>83651278
>ensuring the safety of others
It's a classic story. The bad guy thinks they're doing good by helping their people, but it's bad for the people who end up killed.

Like, war is evil, but what about the participants? They're just trying to protect their buddies and their country.

Point is, everybody has a motivation.
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>>83651340
That's wher you're wrong. Bonnibel wasn't intending to kill the flame people you fucking imbecile. She was it coordinated with the Ice King. If she wanted to kill them she could have asked the Ice King to freeze the entire thing. Are a retard that doesn't watch the episodes? She needed to do this to gain access to the Fire Kingdom. Why she did what she did I explained already
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>>83651384
You have literally no idea what you're talking about. If a "villain" is doing something with the intention of doing good, then they are not a villain.
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>>83651433
And how the fuck does Bubblegum know the exact temperature that fire people don't die at? How does she know Ice King will be able to maintain that exact temperature and not go overboard and accidentally kill off people? How did she know that doing this wouldn't make the fire people sick or something and end up killing them?

There was no line from her that she was concerned about those guy's safety and even if she was there was no guarantee that they would all be fine.
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>>83651365
Misread your reply. That's my point. If Bonnibel were a villain, you guys would complain that the pretty teen girl as a villian has gotten old. What I just love is the moment I asked what Bonnibel should do as a villain as her main antagonist role towards Finn and Jake, they stop replying. Insist upon a change, but can't even imagine the change. Literally autism.
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>>83651151
Hm yes, I suppose he would agree to die if she asked him.

I guess you could dial it down. What is Finn's life worth? How little would she trade it for, and would that be enough to make him feel betrayed?

But Finn would probably let her kill him for a lick of her shoe.

Anyway, I'm saying she doesn't have to go on warpath to go too far and lose the trust of other characters. Right now she's pretty much 100% trusted and that's INSANE.
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>>83651248
What a damn shame. They could probably do something interesting with it.
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>>83651581
Do something ostensibly for the greater good of her kingdom that seems so horrific to Finn that he directly opposes her and Jake backs him up, took all of like five seconds to come up with that basic premise.
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>>83651503
She knew the Flame People's life source came from the core. It's simple logic. Weaken the core, weaken the people. Extinguisgh the core, the people are extinguished. Is your little mind having a hard time comprehending this? She knew that Phoebe would seek help if her flame people were concerned. That's why she had Ice King do this. If Ice King somehow has a spaz attack and froze too much is irrelavent. It's as simple as,"Ice King use your powers on the core, but dont freeze all of it. You truly are a special anon. There is a gurantee theyd be fine; it was controlled.
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>>83651669
And then she'd probably need to go around his back and force him to do it anyway, since maybe only he can get it and she's got to have it. Something like that. There's gotta be a limit to his tolerance to being used.
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>>83651595
What's insane is /co/'s interpretation if this. All that nonsense of hoe much is Finn worth is irrelavent. It's undeniable that an entire kingdom is worth more than an individual.
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>>83651669
If it's for the greater good Finn and Jake WILL do it. Even if it means supposedly making Ice King think he murdered someone. Finn was actually expecting the Ice King to be in shock, evident by how he seemed offended Ice King just dropped his seemingly dead body.
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>>83651489
Most people think they're doing the right thing, even if we don't like it. The point is there is no absolute good and evil, see? Villains who do stuff because they're evil is the laziest thing you can do (COUGH THE LICH COUGH).
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>>83651729
That doesn't answer my questions. How does she know she isn't weakening them too the extent that they're actually dying from it? How does she know that Ice King, in his insane delusional self, is trustworthy enough to not fuck it up, or even decide to freeze them too much because he wants to impress her or something?

She did not give a shit about those citizens dude. If anything she was hoping some would die so FP would be more desperate and come to Bubblegum for help.
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>>83651933
I'm familiar with this logic, that there is no such thing as good and evil. What is, is just subjective. It makes no sense to potray PB as a villain using this logic. If you are going to implement alignment, you first need to implement what IS good and evil. Good and evil in this sense to portay PB as someone who isn't a villain, would be associating her with what is good in the land of Ooo. In this sense PB is not evil; she is ensuring a kingdom is safe. What we call villains, are people who do not conform to what is good.
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>>83651839
Okay, not talking about Adventure Time, is it right to just go and kill someone because you're saving a greater number of people? Not everybody is a utilitarian you know.

Regarding AT, Finn would consent, so yeah that makes it less bad. But we can't forget coercion. He is only a minor after all, wink wink. Is it okay to use children like that, as cannon fodder to save this kingdom you made to play around with?

>/co/'s
stop it.
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>>83651913
>If it's for the greater good Finn and Jake WILL do it.
Like helping to destabilize the Fire Kingdom because Bubblegum considers them a threat?

Finn and Jake deal in simple stuff of "evil monster or criminal, take em out," shit that's not anywhere close to being on the same level of what PB does.

You honestly think that there's NO situation where Finn and PB's values would but heads and Finn would think she's out of line?
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>>83652037
Nice strawman fallacy. That magma chamber is their life source. The hotter it is, the more powerful they are, the cooler, the weaker. Simple logic. If it is no more, the people are no more. Is your brain having a hard time understanding this complex phenomenon? Ice King's sanity is irrelavent, he is insane, but obedient. She did care, if she didn't care she would ask Ice King to freeze the entire thing so all the Flame People are murdered, and she can enter, and steal all the ancient fire elementals without obstruction. But she didn't do that, did she? No. That's how we know Bonnibel wasn't trying to kil them.
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>>83652054
>He is only a minor after all, wink wink.
This is something the show never goes into which would have been cool. I guess PB using a child soldier to do her dirty work is one topic the show never wanted to tackle.
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>>83652050
>In this sense PB is not evil; she is ensuring a kingdom is safe.

Like >>83652086 says, she is a political strategist, so it's only natural for her to try to eliminate threats before they appear. If she gets paranoid her "preventative measures" might be really fugged up. Like trapping a girl in a bottle since birth... but even worse.

So, even if you can laboriously defend everything she's done so far as justified, how far can we goooooo?
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>>83652150
>The hotter it is, the more powerful they are, the cooler, the weaker.
But how hot and how cool you fucking idiot? These are important things to consider if you're trying to weaken the citizens, and PB wasn't shown caring about this at all. She easily could have killed them.
Ice King's insanity is very relevant since giving a job like this where being just a bit off would mean the difference between life or death to a crazy person isn't ensuring that the job he's doing is going to be 100% safe.

You're either autistic or the biggest Bubblegum fanboy in existence.
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>>83652054
You are a conductor on a train. In the tracks ahead lie 5 people, however you do not have enough time to brake and save stop from running over them. You can switch tracks, but there lies one person. What do you do? You have the choice to save 5 people, however one will die.
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>>83652215
The line is where she is doing this without any justifiable reason. If she imprisons random travelers because they are not candy is obviously not okay.
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>>83652246
That "One" person stopped the destruction of life itself. I'd take that one person over the five in this regard especially since they can be recreated.

"I can't clone another You, Finn."
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>>83652154
I bet it would be different if the genders were reversed. (Not Fionna and Cake. that's different.)

Ya think we'd be hypersensitive to Prince Finn taking advantage of little teen hero Bonnie?
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>>83652287
>without any justifiable reason
To you. What she thinks is reasonable could extend beyond what YOU think she should do. If we reach that point, she can finally be "evil".
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>>83652228
You're just a fucking retard that doesn't know the difference of dimmer and off. Is that core completely frozen? No? Then they are alive you fucking dumbass. That's literally all there is to it. The magma is their life source, as long as it burns they are alive. Have you never seen Pokémon? Same shit with Charmander's tail. Ice King could only fuck that up if he froze the entire thing. It's not like this is the first time he has used him powers. How am "I" the retard here. You can't even comprehend this easy to understand situation. They're made out of fucking fire. They don't have immune systems like we do. They don't die of weakness, they die of being completely wiped out.
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>>83652334
So lives have meaning then? Five lives having more meaning than one seems like a very reasonable decision. How is this any different with all over Bonnibels kingdom, and Finn's life? Whichever you choose someone will perish. You and I both chose majority over minority, so looks like you're just as "utilitarian" as I am.
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>>83652429
Exactly. I undestand what does and doesn't make sense, anon. What I believe isn't always what others think, but I trust that is is the most logical because I elimate all emotions in my decisions. Emotion is irrelavent to a logical decision.
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>>83652371
Probably but in this reversed situation people would be much more concerned that Finn is grooming Bonnie into a child sex slave or something, as long as he shares the same amount of little hugs and compliments that season 1 Bubblegum did.

And then it'll be revealed that Finn is 900 years old and everyone will be full on disgusted.
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>>83652246
Lucky for you I'm a utilitarian.

But not everyone is, and no matter what a family is gonna have a dead kid and they're going to hate me. I don't know anything about their situation. I'm not going to think they're wrong for hating me.

The right thing to do is based on your perspective more than you think. Finn thinks everything absolute, black and white. But he's just a kid.
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>>83652371
Also that lil AU is adorable. Love the way Lady is her Jake.
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>>83652653
Well it depends on how PB ages and what's the suspected gap in age between the two
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>>83652653
>Finn is grooming Bonnie into a child sex slave

>yfw Finn falls into a practical marriage with Peebs and spends all day polishing her dildos
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>>83652804
If it's an 18 year old guy and a lil 13 year old girl? I don't think people would be cool with that, and I think that was common knowledge in season one of the show.
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>>83652689
The parents are wrong because they have emotions attached. The only reason the parents would care is because its their child. If this actually happened, most people would say he had no choice, and that 5 people dead is worse than 1. The parents would probably make the same choice if the 6 people on the track were all their children.
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>>83652847
>5 people dead is worse than 1
this is, surprisingly, not an objective fact, almighty STEMlord
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>>83641676

Do you have a repository of your illustrations that isn't Tumblr? Their resized images don't do your art justice.
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>>83652920
If it's random sure. Of course 5 hobos vs. 1 influential person would be logical to have the 5 hobos killed. But random people, we know nothing. I never stated it as fact, its my opinion. Feel free to state why I'm mistaken.
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>>83652920
my opinion most people agree 5 dead isn't as bad as 1 dead. Remember these are random people, and a description can influence someone's decision.
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>>83652839
I mean, since you're implying that she never held romantic feelings for Finn when he was a kid, the grooming stuff is subjective. Once he/she hits the 18 it's all legal from there if they do change their mind.
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>>83652994
Well, to kill the one person is the obvious correct choice according to a particular moral philosophy. But some philosophies say both are wrong so they just can't decide.

I mean the 2 tracks thing is presented as something to think about. It doesn't have an answer.
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I think PB isnt evil nor good. She realized that living in a kingdom made of candy isnt the best thing. Plus her guards arent that bright least some of them. Now she is a asshole though instead of talking to FB first. But with that meeting going on with CB being a spy in the room proves her point on threats. The whole land sees the kingdom as a easy target to take over because its made of candy. So she has a reason to do what she does. But how she is doing is all wrong.
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>>83653061
I don't really disagree. But it's annoying how we're trying to talk about bad guys in terms of how evil they are. I think it's more about how they conflict with the main character because, a protagonist isn't always good. We can love an MC even though he's "bad", so why can't we dislike a character who's arguably not bad?
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>>83618221
'nother storyboard
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>>83653475
>not Ice King
0/10 episode, they let people write this shit?
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>>83649999
>Wonder if there's kind of something planned like a spinoff super far in the future or the past

The staff is in love with that ancient war period and wants all the characters to have lived through that for flashback drama purposes. Unfortunately for us, the two most important characters can't take part in that. God forbid Stakes style spinoff where Finn and Jake are cameos only.
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>>83653144
I use the two tracks scenari in addition to the fact you are the conductor. Some might be unable to do anything, knowing that someone will die. You, or someone, needs to decide wether to continue and have 5 people die, even though you had the choice to save them, by switching tracks and killing one. There are only two possibilities. It goes a little deeper than a would you rather.
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>>83653475
GOD MOTHER FUCKING DAMMIT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE WWM GANG PLAY AGAIN NOT THIS SHIT THIS IS RUINED
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>83653499
I agree, who else to play percussion other than the fucking Ice King? Since when has LSP ever displayed talent? They had the opportunity to steer away from the ice berg and instead went full throttle into it.
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>>83653789
m-maybe they'll still be there in different roles...
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>>83653789
>WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE WWM GANG PLAY AGAIN
You actually wanted that?
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>>83653921
It's a battle of the bands anon. What was I supposed to expect? The Scream Queens?
>not wanting the WWM quintet
despicable
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>>83653921
The melody the 4 of them (plus BMO) had during Finn's song in that episode was great stuff and it would've been very nice to have the gang reunited again.

I guess there's still a chance since LSP being there doesn't necessarily prove anything.
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>>83581098
I'll post the mega again: https://mega.nz/#!EY5B1BRJ!AOEu5ovsq0AmGh_C7YjszonjFARpaNyO-flxLpM91P0
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>>83653746
you seem to be leading that there is only one correct I'm just saiyan the purpose of the thought experiment is more to make you think, can morality really be reduced to numbers like that? to make you feel a little conflicted that you're so damn sure all of a sudden, you know?

to soothe your tisms, if I couldn't decide morally I would choose via my random number generator.
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>>83654168
one correct answer. *
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>>83654168
My mistake, but I don't see why numbering the lives of humans is bothersome, is it just that? Do you dislike the idea that human life can just be thrown around like numbers? Well it can and does. I feel you don't like that idea that there IS a correct choice to make. But of course humans are more complicated and it will really determine on who the people are. I guess you see it as, what is the correct flavor of ice cream to choose, you can only have one. What I see it as, is which one would be better. In this case I am wrong to assume that 5 lives outweigh 1? No. But am I wrong to choose 1 person over the other 5? No. But the latter is the better alternative.
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>>83654299
former* not latter
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>>83654299
>I feel you don't like that idea that there IS a correct choice to make.
There isn't. Philosophically speaking. There are multiple viewpoints on right and wrong, even for such simple things.

Not sayin I wouldn't make the same choice here.

But. I cannot conclude that the logical choice is always morally correct. Morality isn't really derived from logic, overall.
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