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No episodes for a while, but anyone up for an Adventure Time thread?
Thoughts on the current and past seasons and where could it go from what we've seen?
Thoughts on the comics, and whatever they're doing?
Thoughts on best & worst girls, shipping, and alt universes?
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>>83537993
you literally just created this thread to post that brand new picture huh...?
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>>83537993
I want to go on an adventure inside Canyon's tummy.
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>>83537993
Hot cosplay?
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>>83538048
I mean, it's only about a day old. I legitimately want an AT thread.
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I feel a certain smug sense of satisfaction and pride in not having watched this show in several shitty seasons.
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>>83538595
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I just want the best C-lister back.
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>>83538595
Good decision.
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>>83537993
I always enjoyed the show a lot. The only season I didn't like was 6, which still had some good ones but mostly sucked or was just mediocre. Current season is amazing. Favorite episode is Jake Suit, least favorite is Breezy.

Flame Princess is best girl, Bubbline is OTP, Fiiona and Cake are fun.
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>>83538766
Season 6 (except for something big. I liked that one.) Had an extreme Eerie feel to it.
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>>83538595
I'd say this season has been pretty good, with others saying it's a nice return to form, for the show.
Like Regular Show, it's seemingly finding it's place again, and probably wouldn't hurt to check out if you ever find yourself thinking about getting back into it.
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>>83538751
>tfw
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Im hoping for this.Or least her getting another time in the light.
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>>83539047
I see you finally got your request.
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Just a little warning/reminder:
The Music Hole will air on June 23
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>>83537993

I haven't watched the show in years.

who is this semen demon?
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>>83539253
Billy's gf
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>>83539253
Canyon, Billy's ex-girlfriend
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>>83538841
I sat through and enjoyed all the Shipping Time just fine, but Breezy just creeped me the fuck out.
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Adventure Time just isn't progressive enough for me.
Can we cast more female child molesters for the show?
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>>83539616
Her VA is Madeleine Martin now.
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>>83537993
>You will never know how it feels to have all your body covered in pussy
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>>83539067
Yes it feels nice.
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>>83537993
No new episodes for a while? That's disappointing, I thought we still had a bunch coming up.

Haven't read the comics since the first issue came out, so no idea if they're good or not. I just know there's a lot of non-canon jazz going around in it. I took out Marceline's Diary/The Enchiridion book from the Library but haven't actually read it yet.

Any draw requests? I've been kinda waiting for another AT thread; I want to draw more stuff from the show.
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>>83540199
Young Finn and Jake playing on the beach.
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>>83540199
Ice Queen nude with mist covering her smutty parts?
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>>83540199
Show's confirmed to come back on the last week of this month though
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>>83540199
AT cast of your choosing having a party for 7 seasons of this show
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why are blue giantesses the best?
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>>83542917
Because she's a mellow water elemental unlike all the other "2deep4u but still badass and feel sorry for her pls" girls
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>>83539117
A Marceline episode. Here's hoping it doesn't involve PB or Ice King.
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>>83543967
We both know that won't happen anon.
You gotta let go man.
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You think Finn would be down with banging a wolf?
I mean he was raised by dogs so it don't seem too far fetched to me.
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>>83544168
how can he tie without a knot?
that'll ruin the whole experience for them
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Do you guys think we will get some Lich action for the season's final episodes? It's been too long, Crossover and Sweet P cameos don't quite cut it.
I really hope the new ice elemental won't be the end boss.
And what about other old villains for the next season? Flame king is a normie now, Magic Man is a normie, Maja is still in coma. The show has neutered all its antagonists, does it mean the end is close?
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>>83537993
Can Finn satisfy a woman like Canyon?
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>>83544626
The way they seem to use Lich is every other season finale, and since the last season ended with the Comet it seems like his time should be coming up.
But Preeboot/Reboot don't really sound like Lich episodes to me so I don't know. Plus he hasn't gotten any action this season (aside from Crossover but that doesn't count) so he's lacking buildup.

I think finale could be about Ice King's crown or something completely different.
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>>83544692
If he uses his whole body he got a good chance.
He's shaped like a tube, that's like the perfect shape for that kind of stuff.
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>>83544692
>Can Finn satisfy a woman
no
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>>83544766
finnhaters get out
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>>83544811
I don't think the entire adventure time writing team is in this thread anon.
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>>83544692
unbirth
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>>83544697
> he's lacking buildup
He had no build-up for his s2 and s5 appearances. Besides, Sweet P is having regular nightmares, and the outbreak in Gold Stars was pretty ominous. Crossover also had Lich's arm dropping into the multiverse portal.
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>>83537993
Canyon is the best AT girl

Prove me wrong.

You can't
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>>83544916
Season 2 was kind of supposed to be a big swerve that surprised everyone, and I think his shit in Wake Up and Escape from the Citadel had some build up with past episodes. At least a lil.

Gold Stars was a year and a half ago so I don't think that's build up for the current finale (should he be in it).

Preeboot/Reboot just don't sound like Lich eps to me, unless he's trying to reboot the universe into having no life. Even then isn't that basically what he did in the season 5 premiere with Prismo?
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>>83544982
> Preeboot/Reboot just don't sound like Lich eps to me
Those are the working titles, aren't they? The upcoming "Daddy-Daughter Card Wars" used to be titled as "Dignified" earlier in production.
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>>83537993
I stopped actively watching the show because it has so many cool ideas and atmosphere but that gets pushed back by the inability of the characters to care about anything, i get that it's a running joke but it annoys me, also i hate the romantic episodes
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>>83544958
Sorry bro but Ice Queen is just too good to resisit. Shemappeals to all of my fetishes.
Although to be fair, Canyon is a very close second
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>>83545081
I think those ones are staying. Most of the episode titles on that big post it note thing weren't changed.

Also aren't Dignified and D-D Card Wars different episodes? I thought I heard that Dignified is in season 8 while Card Wars was 7.
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>>83545114
The problem with Adventure Time has been with it since the very beginning, even if it took awhile to fully come out. The show's inherent levity and pop-silliness prevents it from fully committing to dramatic storytelling, turning interesting plotlines into bungles.
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>>83545132
I've been for a long time wondering why I liked the first F&C episode but hated the others. Now I understand that's because it was the only episode where Ice Queen played the major role.
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>>83540199
Oh, can you do something with Ice Queen and Canyon?
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There's so little Canyon art...
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>>83543967
I'd rather have PB/Ice King episodes again that don't involve Marceline drama.
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>>83546494
gashi draws everything the same
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>83542917
I need source
I need it FUCKING NOW
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>>83537993
that's blood boiling hot OP

good post
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>>83544692
sure. all he needs is the palm of his hand and determination

manlets need not worry so much
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>>83544958
Canyon is second-best girl.
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>>83544168
>>83544208
>he wears Jake
>Jake makes it so his dick is on Finn's like condom
>kinky sex ahoy
this also works well with Fionna an Cake too
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Shit I think i haven't watched anything since 4 season I think? any chance to get some links for compilations of the seasons or I must look in the scalliwag port?
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>>83544958
Canyon is smokin, but boring. Being way chill all the time isn't good.

Best girl coulda been her >>83544168. I liked her troubled personality.

Shocking how good this show is at setting up cool ships for Finn, only to throw them away.
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>>83547521
>Shit I think i haven't watched anything since 4 season I think?
you're blessed, son. leave this thread and remain pure.
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Honestly I kinda bummered when Jesse left the show, I found his episodes this season were entertaining as hell. Normal Man was fucking great
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>>83546559
Everything hot!
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>>83545132
Does this artist still do AT work? I remember him making tons of drawings back in the show's glory days and really enjoying his tasteful nude art.
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>>83544958
>>83545132
>>83547382
I'm noticing that the most popular AT women on /co/ are the ones with the highest /ss/ potential.
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>>83539117
Oh hey, that's cool. At least we know when it is, know.
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>>83549525
My grammar sucks ass
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>>83548791
R.I.P Gara's tumblr.
Also, you might be on to something there. Note, Marceline and PB's popularity relatively died as Finn grew up, but it works well with giant and noticeably older women.
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Guys, I haven't seen AT since "Betty"
What the hell happened since then?
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>>83550008
Finn killed himself
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>>83546559
OP pic is pretty unique.
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>>83550075
a real human bean

and an real hero
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>>83545138
They're not different episodes. Dignified was the working title for Daddy Daughter Card Wars
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>>83544811
>>83544870
he will suffer until the end of time gents
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>>83540199
You still want to draw more AT stuff?
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>>83546559
I mean, even if that were true, which I'd adamantlysay it isn't, that's hardly that bad of a thing when it's all generally really good.
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>>83537993
MORE CANYON FEET
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>>83548633
>enjoying his tasteful nude art.

I'm gonna need to see some of that for clarification purposes.
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>>83542917
source pls
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>>83553026
Offhand, I'd guess it's from a series called Filename.
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>>83537993
I haven't watched AT for the last 5 years or so

who is this semen demon?
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>>83553475
some skank
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>>83553475
Billy's ex, Canyon.
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>>83538073
>adventure inside Canyon's tummy.
Dat perfect size difference ratio, mang.


>>83549913
>R.I.P
>Gara's tumblr.

Wait, wha-
OH GOD DAMNIT.
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>>83554327
Don't panic. He's already got another set up.

http://elgarabato.tumblr.com/
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>>83542917
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>>83554548
Oh wow, I thought it'd be his Loud House stuff that'd got him booted, but it was just shipperfags from SU.
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>>83554548
thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RCQDDsMpU
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>>83548633
I'm-I'm around.. just, yknow.. without regular drawthreads there's no motivation. Someone just commissioned some smut from me the other week.
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>>83555405
yo
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>>83555405
Well have you thought about occasionally accepting AT requests on nsfw drawthreads? I'm just such a huge fan of your work.
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>>83556338
haha yeah. thanks for your money! i needed that. being alive takes money.
>>83556410
those exist?
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>>83556465
They sure do.
You've never heard of /aco/ or /trash/?
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>>83544692
Finn's a cute kid/guy, I dunno what point hes at now. But hes still pretty damned squeezable
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>>83556739
But us he fuckable and/or compatible?
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>>83539047
>introduce fun characters
>never use them again
>meanwhile mayor of spike town or whatever gets multiple appearances

I mean, c'mon!
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>>83556555
/aco/ 'll ban you for loli, and i didn't know it did drawthreads. and i CERTAINLY didn't know /trash/ did.
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>>83556830
any of you faggots were around for the talkback thread for finn the human/jake the dog

or the space prison ep
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>>83556872
not that guy but I hate /trash/
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>>83556916
what is it even, as a board? i thought it was just sort-of-deleted threads
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>>83556828
considering some of the other stuff hes managed to pull off, and whatever mutations he may have. then yeah, he can probably get it on with a woman of exceptional height and or thicness

plus, what other male are you gonna go for in OOO?
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>>83539047
>>83556830
>>83556877
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>>83556923
it's basically exiled generals/threads

I think it's more or less unmoderated so you're assdeep in weird and gross shit

occasionally you get runs where people post quality stuff, tasteful nudity, whatever, which is where it gets its appeal

otherwise it's like wading through a never ending sea of shit and dicks and I hate it and god damn hiatuses are the WORST
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>>83556923
Supposedly, threads get moved there, but I've only seen original threads.
Basically, it's just a dumping ground of what's not allowed on other boards: Cartoon generals, furry specific threads and drawthreads, hunger games, a bunch of /r9k/ stuff, and just random stuff.
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>>83556916
>>83556923
its a board where anything that isnt allowed on other boards is allowed, aside from spamming and actual CP n such. lotta furries and mlp stuff but there are some good threads scattered throughout. the drawthread is prtty great
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>>83557002
so nice to see lizard princess art. i wish all my old stuff wasnt so damn offmodel, but we had to work with the tiny tiny screenshot we had as her sole appearance.
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>>83557002
I thought /b/ was as low as we could go. I was wrong
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>>83557021
>the drawthread is prtty great


I don't believe you
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>>83555405
>>83557050
Are there any characters that you haven't drawn yet that you're interested in drawing?

>>83557157
Not him but it's not as bad as you may think it would be.
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>>83557002
>checked it out
hey there's some quality furry shit in there. nice.
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>>83557214
might as well try thief princess at some point but she's been leapt on so quickly and thoroughly
i never did draw canyon did i?
also me-mow appears to be huge now, so.. there are possibilities there. and to think, several times i bent over backwards finding valid situations for drawing her so she'd actually be visible.. pairing her up with other tiny characters..
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>>83557273
>might as well try thief princess at some point but she's been leapt on so quickly and thoroughly

You could try doing something different that other artists haven't done. Like have her interacting with Penny from City of Thieves.
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>>83556739
That pic is REVOLTING.
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>>83557233
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>>83557546
personally I found it to be quite a bold artistic decision to give Finn an ahegao face while he's getting his arm torn off
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>>83557351
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>>83557583
naw i mean like the GOOD stuff, man. the kind that isnt cringey and doesnt look like a little kid drew it
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>>83557273
I can't stop thinking about Me-Mow retaining her "original attire" in her new body.
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>>83557710
wait, is she wearing clothes now? i remember her just being a big blank humanoid body, White Tiger style.
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>>83557710
Me-mow is always good.
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>>83557638
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>>83557914
I was jokingly referring to the fact that she didn't wear any clothes in her first appearence.
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>>83558189
right. and she still isn't, is she? well that one time i think maybe she was, when she kidnapped finn..
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>>83558204
She was wearing a prison outfit when we saw her for the first time after her growth spurt.
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How would I go about adding words to this gif? Also, did the Don't Look episode solidify Finn not seeing PB as a love interest, but instead of bro?
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>>83558309
plague is a glorious motherfucker
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>>83558328
if that kinda bro isnt your love interest, i just dont know about you, man.
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>>83557351
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>>83558691
mines hasn't been seen yet, hentaiporn
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>>83558828
I wouldn't know since most of Blargsnarf's AT involves analingus.
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>>83539047
She killed Finn Sword dude. She's irredeemable and Finn is probably gonna wind up killing her
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>>83558959
what is it with jmoyns episodes and sexy broads Finn can't get with?
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>>83558959
She's probably gonna get a redemption arc and a slap on the wrist. Nobody's gonna get the Finn treatment anymore.
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>>83559019
There's a solid 60% chance she'll never show up again.
You're putting too much stock in a bit character bruv.
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>>83559004
He's just a shitty writer that enjoys tormenting our once hopeful hero.
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>>83555405
>>83557214
Would you mind telling us which characters you have a soft spot for doodling? That includes the fanmade ones as well
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I haven't watched AT past Season 5. Actually, I caught Breezy (s6e6) and decided that the show's gone to total shit. That episode single handedly made me drop what I once considered my favorite cartoon. Sooooooooo bad.

Anyway, has the show gotten any better? Has worst girl Flame Princess left the show entirely? Since SU, Archer, and SvtFoE are on haitus, I haven't been able to get my cartoon fix. Are the new seasons worth my time? Pic unrelated.
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>>83559330
The show went from absolute shit to meh tier. Its not as good as it was in the first seasons, but it has gotten slightly better. You probably won't enjoy it since you dropped it a while ago. The people that are still clinging to the fanbase and watching now are probably gonna keep watching it until its over.
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>>83559330
>watched one random episode
>Breezy
I don't believe you. you're just lookin to complain.

not that you aren't justified.
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>>83559385
Ehh, I'll try s6 out. The whole "Finn losing his arm thing oh jk" deal pissed me the hell off. It was PB's a kid now oh jk all over again. I get that they want the show to have little continuity, but if you're gonna make a drastic change like that, fucking stick to it.

>>83559398
No joke, I was losing steam after the big letdown that was s5, and I caught it on TV on a whim. Big mistake.
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>>83559330
As someone who mostly shares what you think season 7 has been pretty good, but I'm not sure it's good enough for you to start caring again.

With AT there's always a big disparity between the good and bad shit and there's a ton of good stuff but also lots of snore inducing mediocrity and amazingly terrible shit.

If you totally have nothing to do and want something to watch I think AT is at the very least interesting enough to get back into.
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>>83559484
>I get that they want the show to have little continuity, but if you're gonna make a drastic change like that, fucking stick to it.
Well, they stuck to the grass sword which appears every so often. It's an insultingly downgraded version of what should have been. But to them, it's enough.
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>>83559484
the only thing that's still keeping me engaged is Finn

life is suffering
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Drawfags I need more sexy Canyon!
I'll suck dicks and lick pussies for it
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>>83559592
I've seen people defend Breezy by saying that the network didn't let them go for whatever extended plan they were going for but that seems like real bullshit. Is that the reason for every hilariously botched story arc the show's done? Even if that is what happened then maybe the writers shouldn't be retards and make Finn lose his arm if they have to revert it 5 episodes later.

AT writers are such fascinating creatures.
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>>83559484
season 6 is often said to be much worse than 5. 6 has an aggressively terrible attempt at a uniting arc. so if you're mad about plot abortions...avoid.
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>>83558959
he killed his own sword though.An besides its not about him getting with her its all about them being cool.
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I have a feeling that since they make shit up as they go, they can just pick out fannons that make "sense" and just act like they had that in mind the entire time and they're EXTREMELY good at covering their tracks
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What do you miss the most about classic AT /co/?

Finn and Jake's super early characterizations were really awesome. Finn was like a nearly feral paladin who would rip evil apart anytime he got anywhere near it and Jake was actually a calming force for his lil bro who tried to steer Finn's crazy passion into the right channels.

Miss those guys. Modern Finn and Jake are cool too but Finn can be annoyingly passive at times and Jake is a huge retard a lot more often (though he's been wiser in season 7).
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>>83559278
for some reason i love drawing flame princess's bangs. even though my drawings barelty resemble the canon design anymore
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>>83557273
>i never did draw canyon did i?
>also me-mow appears to be huge now, so.. there are possibilities there. and to think, several times i bent over backwards finding valid situations for drawing her so she'd actually be visible.. pairing her up with other tiny characters..
As part of Adventure Time's continuing efforts to make things harder for you, Me-Mow will be Canyon-sized in her next appearance.

Good luck with your canon-appropriate interactions then, sucker!
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>>83559660
I've heard that too. With the shit they're letting Steven Universe pull off though, I really doubt that the execs had too much say in how the cartoon is run. Maybe Rebecca Sugar is just sleeping with the board of directors so she can show off her space lesbians unfiltered.
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>>83559484
>>83559592
>>83559700
i don't understand why you expected anything other than what we got. what would have happened to the show if BIG EPIC THINGS actually happened after being built up? then they'd constantly have to top that, and they'd be meaningless. that'd be a dull thud. and once you knew what would happen, rewatching it wouldnt be enjoyable at all
instead it's just this really chill journey through weird shit happening.. and where other heroes would flip their shit, finn and jake just roll with it
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>>83559908
did she use a growth potion that went out of control?
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>>83559920
SU was a cool show with mystery and adventure.Now its just one location and a thrist feast.
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>>83559837
>What do you miss the most about classic AT /co/?
Finn and Marceline interacting at all.
This will always confuse the shit out of me. First half of Marceline's existence was exclusively her hanging out with Finn while the later half is her hanging out with everyone but Finn.
Some anon once said it was like Marceline got a restraining order against Finn and it's such an apt comparison.

It's like, just why? I literally cannot understand it. Either the writers are too far up their ass with sad Simon bullshit or Bubbline bullshit that they think any diversions with Finn are a waste or it's been so long they can't actually remember what Finn and Marceline's chemistry is like.
It's fucking terrible, it's been like 4 years.
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>>83559660
If that's true, I still couldn't forgive them. Making multiple episodes of a plot arc before asking for network permission? Plan your shit.

>maybe the writers shouldn't be retards and make Finn lose his arm if they have to revert it 5 episodes later.
I think what it is, is they're obsessed with "subversion" to the point if they imply something's gonna happen, it must be good writing to NOT do that thing.

The foreshadowing told us that Finn would lose his arm, so it's good to do anything but that.

But then again, the grass sword and its mechanic (appear sometimes, otherwise invisible) is basically a babby version of the real thing (lose arm ---> get replacement). So they're probably just cowards. And so lazy they refuse to draw a 24/7 grass arm.
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>>83556965
I like this its detailed and so amazing.
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So /ATG/ who's the worst character on the show? My money's on pic related
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>>83559983
This
it's really hard to do anything nowadays and make it feel like anything but 'been there, done that'
theyre subverting for subversion's own sake. plus it's what got them where they are, yknow? people used to praise AT constantly for not having the predictable moral endings or succumbing to the usual cliche misunderstandings. Remember when marceline caught finn and jake in her house and didnt give any fucks?
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>>83559934
If that's what the writers are going for maybe they should stop fucking having BIG EPIC THINGS happen only to immediately revert them two episodes later.

I can't understand the rest of your reasoning at all either. Having big things happen doesn't mean you need to keep ramping up the scale forever, plus stuff like Finn losing his arm is an entire different world compared to the Lich coming back for the tenth time.

Your description of the show doesn't sound like the one the writers think in terms of.
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>>83559837
I liked all the characters personalities early on in the show. I think shows like Rick and Morty proves that you can have zany characters in more mature themed stories. AT, however, wanted to try and go completely deep.

>>83559934
>better to be chill and mellow instead of trying to top your previous attempts and strive for perfection
Get the fuck outta here.
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>>83559952
I don't know, but the final episode of Adventure Time is going to end with a Rei-sized Me-Mow and it all comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down.
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>>83542917
Zagan is one of the Male Genies. Also, he's a Genie, not a Giant.
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>>83560034
TT's not that bad, just kind of boring. I still really like her first few episodes.

In terms of which character is badly written or just uninteresting, gotta go with Flame Princess.
She's been mostly boring the whole way through and after Frost and Fire they basically changed her entire character.

I don't hate her or nothing but if there's a worst (somewhat important) character in the show it's gotta be her. That's mostly why I don't mind that she gets less appearances than Marceline.
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>>83559837
Agree with your points on Finn and Jake. But all the other characters too.

Miss Ice King before he was consumed by sad backstory.

Miss PB when she was cute and sweet and only a dictator in a jokey kind of way.

Miss Marceline. She's dead.

Also, remember when this shit had killer background music? The lack of good music makes the show less cohesive. No atmosphere bringing it all together.
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>>83560034
i fucking love tree trunks. she's the sexiest adventurer ever!
>>83560041
it's just, that's what they do, yknow? they don't revert it, they put it on the backburner. they leave it there for another writer to come play with another time. they don't wanna take any of the toys out of the box.
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>>83560193
That's fine from a silly joke show standpoint but if you're trying to tell satisfying stories that shit is a disaster, as AT's myriad of terrible story arcs have shown.

They want their show to be super deep and mature and have big stories that change everything but never leave the safety of status quo noting ever changes let the storyboarder do what you want. It's madness that they think they can do both successfully.
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>>83559884
Don't let being slightly out of date get you down. I think she looks much better with bangs.
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>>83560170
I think Ice King's the character that changed the least, they turned down his villainy and ramped up his patheticness tenfold. A poor move because Ice King is at his most funny when he's being his version of evil.

And man Marceline, poor fucking girl. They even killed her old self in her backstory, now she was always a good guy! (except for the first seasons of the show but who remembers that those days right)
She's so boring nowadays that I barely know what her character is anymore. If it wasn't for Bubbline single handily keeping people interested in her everyone would have forgotten she exists by this point.
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>>83559934
>what would have happened to the show if BIG EPIC THINGS actually happened after being built up? then they'd constantly have to top that
That's silly. The point of big epic things is to further the story towards a certain end. You're talking like an AT writer, where EPIC SHIZZ happens for a ratings boost but otherwise means nothing. Your mindset is backwards.
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>>83537993
This might be Gashi's best pic yet.
I just want to suffocate in those panties.
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>>83560253
exactly. AT has never been about satisfying story arcs. leave that to SU (though it has its own problems. especially pacing)
I think what you think "they want" isn't what they really want.
the mistake was the big AT bombs that made out that this was going to be this big exciting thing, and we tuned in all week, and in the end.. it was just a normal chilled-out ending. that was the network promotion department's fault, not the creators of AT
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>>83560253
What they need to do is buckle the fuck down and get a solid outline with detailed notes and shit for different arcs.They can't wing it and pass arcs around like a game of hot potato anymore. This is cemented by Flame Princess, Orgalrog and all of Finn's arcs past 5.2

>>83560352
>Bubbline is the only reason why some people care about Marcy and PB
Don't even get me started on this.
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>>83560396
i'm just saying i saw this happen in gravity falls. everyone built up the importance of THE PLOT in their minds, and it let them down a bit. but from the beginning I thought the plot was just an excuse for great jokes and hanging around being funny characters. I told everyone they were nuts if they thought the plot would ever matter, and it would appear the writers were a bit more on my side than theirs.
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>>83560413
No way man, for a good amount of the show's stories it is totally the writer's faults.

Stuff like Jake's kids, Finn losing his arm, Martin's existence, that was all the writers building it up and then going *poof* with it and having it amount to 90% nothing.

If the show really wanted to have their chilled out show with no big consequences then they would right that, they want both that and their big epic story but the two do not mix at all, or at least not in the way AT handles its shit.
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>>83560493
I'm just saying, you're the one that built it up in your head. and I did too! I thought jake's kids would be so important.. but we were stupid to think the writers intended that. of COURSE they didnt!

the only show where people don't seem to do this is regular show. they understand the plot stuff is just for framework, but the real purpose of each episode is watching characters be who they are, and say funny shit. and there's a good reason this attitude is necessary: these are CARTOONS. they don't have the budget, the art style, or the tone to have serious drama or action. it's not possible, so why try?
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>>83560464
Gravity Falls was some of the worst lore-baiting I've ever seen.

I don't think it was wrong to believe the plot should've been more than it turned out to be. Maybe your expectations are just low?
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I miss donut witch, first time id actually lost my shit watching a cartoon in a long time
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>>83560525
But the show even implied Jake's kids were gonna be important.
>episode beforehand showing Lady pregnant and Jake caring for her
>way back in Paper Pete we had Jake checking out the book about history of Rainicorns
>in Jake the Dad Jake fucking moves out of the Treefort and starts taking care of his kids in Lady's house because even he was fooled into thinking his kids would be a big deal

Then the writers were saved from committing to it because of course rainicorns grow up to maturity in ten hours, everyone knows that.
There's other things like these for basically every other big plot point in the show that winks away in two episodes.

They write these things to make it seem like they're decently big deals but then shit all over that stuff every time. They either do it be accident, meaning their idiots, or do it on purpose, meaning they're liars.

Just watching the show the viewer could easily be fooled, so that leads me to think that the writers gotta fucking tighten up their ship.
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>>83560577
i lived through the 00s. my expectations are gonna stay low until we get another BTAS, as it were. another gargoyles.
we had avatar, sure.. but.. really things aren't going to improve until violence is allowed again. can't take shit seriously without that.
i adored new thundercats but it did have some flaws, if far fewer than /co/ likes to say. and for as much as the creators said "We're aware nobody gets a season 2 guarantee anymore, so we kept that in mind" they then wrote in a shitty cliffhanger ending with nothing resolved.
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>>83560651
well that's the thing, it was important TO JAKE. and he had it sprung on him, just like it was sprung on us, that it wouldn't actually be that big a deal. and in retrospect, Lady should have been a lot more concerned if Jake was going to have to be an actual dad. as it is, she seems genuinely disturbed by finn's insinuation that they're married, whereas he gleefully sings that she's 'basically (his) wife'
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>>83560525
>you're the one that built it up in your head
Man, I'm tired of faggots like you.

The writers have a huge role in building the expectations of the audience. It's their job to guide us so we're not disappointed.

As for your example, I see no reason Jake having kids shouldn't have been important other than "it's a cartoon". What kind of excuse is that? This is a cartoon that prides itself on having realistic trauma and struggle in it. But conveniently it's a magical no-rules cartoon again when the writing gets too tough.
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>>83537993
Its a show that pleases everyone and not just one set of ppl like SU.With adventuretimes sillyness and major sightings i do enjoy.The giant war elephan is by far the most badass thing that not even world of warcraft has.Even it all its characters are the most interesting.It was about a kid and his dog having adventures.Then it turnt to other characters and their adventures.I like it because Peppermint butler is too good of a character to just be a butler as seen in stakes eps
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>best ship will never return
Adventure Time staff is a bunch of faggots.
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>>83552932
this should clear everything up for you. Hope the artist doesn't mind me posting one of his older pics.
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>>83560525
>>83560525
>it's the viewer's fault for thinking they're gonna expand on the story
You backwards fuck. I bet you liked "Everyone Knows It's Bendy" because it subverted the viewer's expectation of Bendy getting what's for in the end.
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>>83560726
That's garbage from a storytelling point of view though dude.
Lady's kind of a jerk for not telling the guy and letting his hopes get dashed.

I don't know man, I don't think we're gonna be getting anywhere here but anytime someone argues that AT's storytelling isn't atrocious I just cannot understand it. My brain isn't wired that way or something.
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>>83560805
as much as that is a good ship because they sync with each other in the first seasons.The chance finn turning to a vampire with her is to great.I mean him being the only human.
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>>83560767
quit blaming the writers for inventing shit in your head.
you are not the center of the universe
in case you haven't noticed, you're just one tiny percentage of the fandom. there are groups six times as huge as you who are CONVINCED the writers are building expectations for ludicrous things no sane person would ever think they were writing.

if you think what they did wasnt as fun or satisfying as what they could have done, awesome. i agree with you. but that's disappointment, and you need to treat it like disappointment. what you're doing is being kind of entitled
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>>83560413
>AT has never been about satisfying story arcs.
then maybe they should STOP WASTING TIME ON THEM
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>>83560805
>"return"
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When she's underwater does she get wet?
Or does the water get her instead?
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>>83560828
exactly. Lady's actually kind of weirdly cold. it makes her less boring. it's just sad that so few people in this show actually are sweet and warm anymore because it's so much funnier if they're flawed jerks.
>>83560910
what else would you rather they do with that time?
shit happens in their universe. the story arcs are about shit happening. it's not building up something 'satisfying' or 'moving' or any kind of 'conclusion'.. just a bunch of shit happening. that's been their clear philosophy from the beginning. we've seen multiple flash-forwards (particularly lemonhope and that graybles one) that show without a doubt that nothing matters, nothing will ever be resolved, the future is going to go on forever and bad shit's going to happen.
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>>83560352
>They even killed her old self in her backstory
Bubblegum too. It's hilarious how both of them have this weird 1-2 year gap (seasons 1 and 2) where they were totally different people than they were before, or would be after. Headcanon THAT away!
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>>83560965
Random guy but
>we've seen multiple flash-forwards (particularly lemonhope and that graybles one) that show without a doubt that nothing matters, nothing will ever be resolved, the future is going to go on forever and bad shit's going to happen.

Motherfucker are you serious?
The fact that one day the sun will go supernova and devour the earth means jack shit, who fucking cares? The audience cares about the characters and how they end up and shit, just saying "lol they all die the end" is fucking retarded.

Finn and Bubblegum and Ice King are clearly gonna have some kind of resolution and that's what the viewer cares about, not what the world will look like a thousand years in the future. Your logic is mind boggling man.
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>>83560996
it's because finn was young and naive, man if you can't see that then you're an entitled brat like >>83560868 said
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>>83561038
The headcanon that "Oh bro the show is just the way Finn sees the world don't you get it" is fucking stupid because that means nothing in the show is concrete so by that logic we should trust nothing it tells us. Fucking hate that theory.

The show totally retconned PB and Marceline's early selves and that's a cold hard fact bruv.
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>>83560965
>what else would you rather they do with that time?
Just more of what was done 100% of the time before season 5. Little to no continuity, and one shot characters generally do not return.

I think maybe you forget that classic AT did not have arcs, at all. Arcs that pan out to nothing are cruel.
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>>83561038
i mean, i MISS how they used to be, but there's nothing 'wrong' with how they let them change over time. it made them interesting. Besides, marceline couldn't have kept up the 'radical dame who likes to play games' act forever. finn saw through her. what's funny is it took PB a lot longer to figure that shit out. PB and marcy each thought the other thought they were just incompatible friend material from being part of too different a crowd.. for fuckin' years. meanwhile finn meets marcy and within 2 episodes he's gotten past her shell.
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I honestly find in depth AT discussions to be some of the most stimulating threads you can find on 4chan, at least the boards I go to.
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>>83561121
it kinda did though. they had all this shit about the lich and billy and whatnot going on.
you dont see anyone bitching that the lich got defeated too abruptly after posessing PB, or that loli PB was a plot abandoned too quickly. and if they did the latter i'd be fucking with them.
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>>83561038
that's some damn nice headcanoning.

gold star
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>>83561156
>you dont see anyone bitching that the lich got defeated too abruptly after posessing PB, or that loli PB was a plot abandoned too quickly. and if they did the latter i'd be fucking with them.
>loli PB
Where have YOU been? 13 year old PB being left in the dust, only for them to do it AGAIN with Flame Princess drives people up the fucking wall. And if they made PB over 800 just to cut Finn off from getting with her, it makes even less sense and would drive me mental.
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>>83561227
well it bothered me, but when people bitch about 'the way the show is now' they act like the early seasons had none of that and it all started with season 5b
>>83561168
>>83561093
yeah i can't really get behind that idea. there's usually an instory reason for why they changed
PB seemed to go all srs mode after losing her second childhood. not sure if it was because she actually wanted to solve her kingdom's problems so she could leave her responsibilities behind and be a kid again, because she knew those problems would never end, because she knew even IF she continues to monitor everything it'll still go to shit periodically, or some combination of these.. but either way she seems weary.
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>>83561156
>you dont see anyone bitching that the lich got defeated too abruptly after posessing PB, or that loli PB was a plot abandoned too quickly.
ahahahaha

people have been complaining about that since the day it happened. But the reason the writers backed out was, the first Lich episodes were written as the series finale. But then the show didn't get cancelled after all so the changes that were meant to be permanent had to be erased.

that's more excusable to me than to specifically plan big events, KNOWING you're gonna undo it all. Loli PB and Finn were meant to live happily ever after.
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>>83557273
Think you should strike now while the iron is hot and your mind is on drawing? Because I already have a few ideas revolving around these three ladies.
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>>83561156
Just in my view I'm okay with it because it seems to make sense.
Lich comes up, oh shit big bad guy, but then Finn and Jake beat him by the skin of their teeth and he's gone (till next time). That doesn't have a underlying effect on the rest of the series.
Even loli PB did change things from my point of view, as in it made PB/Finn a concept that was never going to come to fruition ever again.

So that thing was handled pretty well, but all the other shit they've done after that was several magnitudes more sloppily done.
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>>83561255
With PB now being canonically almost 1000 years old, I have a hard time caring that she's tired or overwhelmed or whatever. Obviously, she's been doing something right for a LONG time. Original PB might have been shaken by the deaging and reaging thing, but Eternal God Emperor PB is too insane to care.
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>>83561336
>Even loli PB did change things from my point of view, as in it made PB/Finn a concept that was never going to come to fruition ever again.
fug u too
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>>83561313
sorry dude i'm fallin' asleep. and i've got my own comic to draw. i wish this thread was up the other day though
>>83561343
you have kind of a point actually. but i get the impression shit has changed every so often.
Plus, turning 1000 is like a midlife crisis in this universe. When you were more or less born from one comet's world-changing effects, and you live long enough to see another's...
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>>83561383
Bro don't hate the player, hate the show.
You're ships been dead for half a decade, ooc episodes like Pajama War aside. Ya gotta let go man.
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>>83561145
and AT discussion anywhere else is utterly vapid. spouting quotes and whatnot

it's weird. i guess another choice is relentless dick-sucking at AV Club where they talk about what it all means cus it's all so deep and carefully orchestrated brah.
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>>83561414
the dumbest thing you can possibly say is 'AT has definitely intended to bury this plotline'
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>>83561414
I'll fucking go down with it at the better end they're known to pull dead stuff outta their asses
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>>83561439
Make no mistake, I am always fully prepared for the writers to do the dumbest things ever imaginable, but I think after all the shit they've went through with Finn and PB and the way they've quadrupled-down on Bubbline this season even they have to realize what a disaster that would be.

Then again I said the same thing about Finn's arm many a year ago, so what the fuck do I know, maybe Fubblegum is OPT endgame after all.
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>>83561404
Well I hope you'll manage to find more opportunities to draw more Adventure Time someday.
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>>83561455
Are you gonna be happy when Pen intervenes and forces Finn/PB together at the last second because he can't stand for his self-insert to not get his first love?

I think there's like a 40% chance. But it'll be a hollow victory for you. Finn's been getting his face crushed by PB's heels for years, and that's what counts.
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>>83561478
>quadrupled down
i'm genuinely sad for you if you see "estranged friends who were part of two different crowds and grew apart, finally hanging out and bonding again" as romance, dude.
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>>83561498
reminder that PB is his Pen's-Mom-Betty-insert and her name was originally Betty, with Finn being Pen
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>>83561508
Don't be sad for me, be sad for the legions of fangirls who would literally behead Pen Ward and Adam Muto if Bubbline got broken up at the end of the show. They're the ones to be worried about.

I don't care if you think they're friends or sisters or whatever the fuck, Bubbline is boring as shit, but it is a fact that a very large amount of the fanbase is head over heels in love with it and if things don't go their way they'll be a tad upset, and I'd imagine the writers are conscious to their wants and desires.

That's the single biggest thing going against Finn/PB.
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>>83561563
if they had been remotely concious of it it's safe to say they would have done things very differently
they aren't in tune with that kind of dorkery at all
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The thing with old AT and new AT is that it stopped centering itself around just finn and jake.I mean would anyone like other characters if it was just about these two.And with the shipping its a dream yes.But even finn said it himself."Its time to get out of the dating bis and back into adventuring".He knows that and there will be a girl waiting for him.Just not now because he is still young and understanding life as he goes on.He has grown up and i cant fault him being a retard when he was younger i mean we all did some stupid shit as kids.You learn from your mistakes.In steven universe no one really learns anything or least on their own.Plus with everyone wanting to be right all the time.AT is a flawed show.And it should be to be great you must have flaws.SU no one want to be flawed((inside gem joke)).
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>>83561602
They're in tune enough to give em like 6 episode's worth of interaction in season 7. Those lesbo ratings are sending their kids through college.
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>>83561609
Whats the joke?
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>>83561636
he enjoys licking other men's penises
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>>83561383
Man, I was never on the S.S. Finn/PB, she was always kind of a bitch to him. I mean, now she's just become a bitch in general, but even in the early seasons she treated him like shit.

I was once on board with Finn/Marcy, but with the drastic change in her character, it just wouldn't work out now. Finn's gotta find his Canyon.
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>>83561661
We have no idea if Finn/Marcy is still viable or not because those two are just never allowed to have a fucking conversation these days.

It might still totally work if the writers have half a shit.
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>>83561623
use your head for a second, guy
are there any other explanations for why they might have written a story about them reconnecting and being friends?
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>>83561661
She likes finn.But not like that.She needs him for her dangerous stuff.Her guards cant do what he do let alone guard their own barracks.
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>>83561697
Finn doesnt like marcy that way.She is the jerky hipster older sister then a love intrest.Plus i doubt he bring her home with jakes vampire fears.
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>>83561699
.... they like money? Not very hard to figure out Einstein.

After a total drought on them interacting in season 6, to it being OH SHIT BUBBLINE every 4th episode in season 7, they realized that shit prints money. Really silly of them to ever have forgotten, the numskulls.
If that was supposed to be their way of stomping out the Bubbline fanbase they did an amazing fucking job of it, kudos to them.

I am interested in hearing about your theory where they totally aren't lesbians in any way though, those are always fun.
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>>83561699
They're caving into the vocal part that will obviously shit on them if they don't confirm it?

>>83561697
>It might still totally work if the writers have half a shit.
It won't. PB and Marcy are both out because they outlive him.

>>83561713
She'd go for him if Lemonfuck didn't come in and shit things up. Oh well.
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>>83561645
#GiveFinnaBoyfriend
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>>83561752
aaah jake got over that a while ago. p-probably.
it is kind of a bitch that she has to retain vampire weaknesses when for a little while there it looked like she was only going to keep their powers but remain a mortal demon.
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>>83561752
>Plus i doubt he bring her home with jakes vampire fears.
On the other hand that's a great way to make sure the treehouse is vacant when he wants to tap that gray ass
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>>83561758
>PB and Marcy are both out because they outlive him.
And immortals falling in love with mortals is something that never happens in stories right man?

I mean they're never gonna happen but it's not for that reason.
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>>83561755
you're kind of extra stupid so i'm going to stop talking to you now
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>>83561636
gems have flaws
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>>83561792
I don't hold it against you man, it's very hard to argue against Bubbline after they've beaten the audience into unconsciousness with it in season 7. Certainly not something I would try to do.
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>>83561784
I mean in this situation it's one of the biggest reasons, but not THE biggest like them not wanting to be with each other (which might change once he gets into his 20s.)
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>>83561636
i wonder how kids get into these weird habits, like not spacing after periods. how does that happen? i mean someone had to teach you to use punctuation whatsoever, right? are they using their stupid little phone things and they don't have a spacebar or something?
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>>83560868
> there are groups six times as huge as you who are CONVINCED the writers are building expectations for ludicrous things
Well one reason for that is because the writing's terrible. Nobody can agree on what the writers are actually doing because it's not made clear. Or it is made clear and then something completely different happens right at the last second. "hur hur we meant to do it this way from the beginning".
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>>83561813
woah mama, Big V lookin fine
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>>83561851
or maybe, just maybe, it's you that's wrong.
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>>83561838
Why don't you capitalize the letters in your posts which ought to be capitalized?
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>>83561763
Finn either gets dumped by a chick or gets dumped with a dude, either way it ends with him being a sadsack for a while but then ultimately getting better.

Show pls just leave Finn and romance alone, let the fanfictions handle that since they're a lot better at it than you.
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>>83561868
a) can't be arsed
b) shift key has a tendency to capitalize more than i want it to.

my point is, it's one thing to NOT use something, that i get. like if you didn't use periods at all, i'd understand. but using them, and using them wrong? what's the deal with that?

another thing i see kids doing nowadays is Capitalizing Every Word In A Sentence. I mean that takes -additional- effort.
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>>83561889
It's hip to do that because of that one black celebrity and that thing from Homestuck.
Keep up with the kids gramps, you're getting left in the dust.
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>>83561886
>you can't do something right, don't do it at all
no, just do it right.
flame princess was going fine until sugar left
they need to stop hemorrhaging all their best people. the only real legitimate complaint in this thread is the one about things being inconsistent and swervy, where they're clearly headed one way then change their minds. and we know that's because writers leave and that was the writer with the clear vision. that sucks ass but it's COMPLETELY avoidable.
and honestly if finn remains single much longer it's gonna be sad as fuck. he's gettin' OLD for that.
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>>83561609
>even finn said it himself."Its time to get out of the dating bis and back into adventuring"

>"you're a mature adult now so you need to stop trying to find love"
>"you don't need experience, just wait here forever"
kek. life lessons of the foreveralone
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>>83561927
Oh god. What if Adventure Time keeps going on and its season 9 feels like the Simpsons season 9, where the writers are clearly all noobs who don't get how it works?
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>>83561927
Man Finn don't need a hoe, just have him be content with being single. He'll have plenty of time to find some lady after the show ends and he isn't being constantly sabotaged by the universe.
It's not like him suddenly ending up with ______ in the final episode of the show will be anymore satisfying.

And hey, if they actually go through with that then the show will have finally stuck to their guns about something for the first time ever.
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>>83561927
but if he stays single they can always go with the "You don't need to be romantically involved to be happy" angle.

Que Marcy and PB scissoring in the room next to him
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>>83561815
I know they do.But they do not want to adress them less steven does.
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>>83561968
Well forever isnt the thing.And if you just go around trying to tap ass ppl are going to think your a creep.Or worse be like mordecai.
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>>83561970
Honestly I think injecting a bunch of new blood into the show would help it if anything.

It's not like there's one defined way that AT 'works' anyway, compare season 1 to 6. It's the same show, as hard as that is to believe.
Every individual writers is responsible for like 40% of their own episodes anyway, so basically everyone is working on their own version of Adventure Time that's totally separate from everyone else's.

It's a risk that could pay dividends. There's a chance all the new writers will just totally suck, but as it goes. Even then that will freshen up the show a whole lot.
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>>83562023
no, the joke is that, in mineralogy, flaws are a thing gemstones have.
>>83562070
I feel like.. new people should mean a new show. I wish we had more spiritual successors instead of always milking the same cash cow titles. What's wrong with saying "This is just like X, this is the new X, come watch it. X is over now, we didn't want to run it into the ground, but this is by the same people so it'll be fine" ?
i'm glad phineas and ferb is getting that, more or less.
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>>83561970
Simpsons is nothing and will never be like adventure time. They add alot of characters for no reason and forget about them later. Its like a off chance you will see them again. And with at doing that they will show some people again. Like in jake brick wall we saw almost alot of the side characters in that ep. Yea not doing anything but hearing jakes observations and whats going on but they are there.
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>>83562108
>new people should mean a new show.
That already happened though, look at the huge shift in people from the early seasons to now. Not that many people left from that time.

AT really wants individual artists to twist the show into whatever they think is cool and interesting and that was something that Pen was a fan of too, so wouldn't that just be taking things to their logical conclusions?

It could be awful but it also might be the greatest thing ever. Fortune favors the bold, or some shit.
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>>83562108
Heh somone got the crappy joke i was doing. Also i used it because its like how they work. Like growing from the planet like gems in real life.
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>>83562147
they probably should have just made it an anthology. a bunch of stories in a shared universe. but execs would never go for that.
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>>83561697
I've given up there. Their personality types just aren't compatible anymore, as far as I see it. Plus, turning your protagonist into a vampire exceeds even an AT writer's ability to backpedal. By vampire logic, they'd have to kill Marcy.

Nah, at this point I hope he doesn't end up with anyone we've met yet. He deserves better after all the bullshit they've put him through.
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Some guy made a blog analyzing early AT
http://enchiridiontime.blogspot.com/

I find this kind of noteworthy because the fanbase at large seems to view early AT as being Johnny Test-levels of quality which is a real shame, so this is kinda cool.
Not sure if anyone gives a shit but there was a lot of talk about old AT vs new AT and this relates to that.
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>>83562184
That is true. But the thing about finn and jake. They are cool if they are wronged and all are made up. The lich cant say srry and be friends. Finn isnt around to smash these two bitches he helps them because thats what friends are for. Let PB and marcy have their fun. There is alot more interesting women out their.
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>>83562184
I wonder what a 'mature' Finn and a more nice Marceline with self esteem hanging out would be like.
The show sure as shit doesn't wanna show us.
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>>83562184
this is where the situation unfortunately snowballs
because not only would they have to make up for him being unsuccessful all this time, but also make up for all the mistakes, AND the buildup of just seeing his life all this time. At this point that level of satisfaction is probably impossible. they've set themselves up to fail, and each failure digs them deeper. in a situation like that, americans just quit
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>>83562184
Either a current existing character who has had no/ruined compatibility with him
A shoddily developed new character
A character at the very end of the series
Or forever alone

Pick your poison
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>>83561988
No way would they have put so much energy into Finn's shitty harem if he was still gonna be alone at the end of the show. Somebody will win the Finnbowl and that's that.

Obviously they don't really believe you can be happy alone or they wouldn't be this obsessed with romantic failure. It's like, the enduring theme of the entire thing.
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>>83562218
No fuck you he's getting one of them #finnbowl2k16
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>>83562237
If they just have some big titted peasant girl show up one day to be Finn's sentient fleshlight I would be alright with that.

I think he's at least earned that after saving the world like 8 times.
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>>83562275
There is a chance. But that might come if he brings an new girl around them. And they get abit jelly.
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>>83562184
Cheesy as fuck but I'd be pleased with a human version of Roselinen. We don't have to meet her, we already know what she's like.
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>>83562295
>deserves
There's that word again. Saving the world entitles him to no romantic affection that's why him and Bubblegum/Phoebe nvere worked out
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>>83539117
So she finally plays rock music?
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>>83562295
All they ever had to do was imply he met a big titty peasant girl offscreen and is satisfying himself on his own. It's PG and Finn's happy.

NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
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>>83562362
besides Finn's the first to say he's nothing special. when offered the chance to become a cosmic being he was just like.. not into it.
>>83562333
ahh the ol' Astyanax ending eh? I'm cool with that. very cool.
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>>83540199
I'd love to see Fionna go native as a jungle babe, or competing with Hunter Wizard
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>>83562362
Dude I'm just saying from a storytelling perspective. Yeah technically he doesn't deserve anything but after the show's tortured him for like 3 years they could at least throw the kid a fuckin bone.

Come on man.
Or is the grand message of Adventure Time that it's a hero's lot in life to suffer? That's some heavy shit then.
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i am way into that, my good fellow. have drawn several such things before. would love to see Jacinth draw us some too.
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>>83562421
and shit i just have to post this one more. maybe it'll be inspiring.
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>>83562408
>>83562362
Well as the magic man said "you act like a hero to get what you want". Finn doesnt want that to happen. Finn wants to let it come like it should on its own. And he does deserves a girlfriend. But with his high speed life and such less she is like him i doubt she want to be part of it nor he want her to be part of it because she might not be use to it.
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>>83562362
He deserves affection because he's sentient being. We all deserve companionship and love. To boot, he's a nice person.

I mean he's not entitled to the girl of his choice bowing down and slurping up his cock, but... there's a middle ground.
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>>83562394
If the universe was benevolent enough to generously toss some hot chick into Finn's lap I don;t think he would say no out of some sense of moral integrity or something. He wants a girl and he wants one sort of bad.
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>>83562220
That's because Finn can't age.

Man, remember when Pen Ward was on the show? Remember when Finn had a birthday every season? Remember when the promise was high, and the disappointments were few and far between?

I miss old AT. The show pretty much single-handedly rejuvenated cartoons back to their former glory after all the bullshit CN was peddling through the mid to late 2000s. Hell, I'm pretty sure Adventure Time brought CN out of a near-bankruptcy they put themselves in with CN Real.

I'm the guy who earlier in this thread said I'm gonna give the show another try. I've been watching it for the past hour or so, and a lot of the old charm shines through. I want to hate this show, but every now and then you get a glimpse of what made it define the cartoons of this decade.

I'm sad now. I'm gonna keep watching.
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>>83557002
If i had to write an episode for AT, i would write her with lizardman conspriacy
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>>83562457
>like it should on its own
What does that mean tho? If you don't try to connect with others, it's likely you will not. Finn's way of connecting with others is to do his hero thing so I don't see a problem with his MO, in general. She can either hero it up with him, or wait at home cooking dinner. Either seems alright.
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>>83562486
Technically (VERY VERY TECHNICALLY) Finn is still aging, the show just barely acknowledges it. Finn has not physically changed at all and while he has matured that's a pretty nebulous thing that doesn't mean he's above acting like a big idiot still.

I want to hate this show, but every now and then you get a glimpse of what made it define the cartoons of this decade.
This is kind of how I feel about AT. She's a negligent, cold hearted bitch but she gives me enough warmth when it counts for me to never consider leaving.
If I was strong enough to put my foot down and let go I'd be a happier person.

That's a dramatic way of saying it but in the end I feel like I love this show but it don't love me too much.
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>>83562523
Well how would it look. He saves the girl and she likes him for it. Plus even if she was a home girl there would be complaints about how she is at home and nothing going on. I mean as a casual small chat like if he went to a movie or a party like that pillowfort thing.
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>>83562486
>Remember when Finn had a birthday every season?
He still does, sort of. The writers don't deny that he's supposed to be aging, they're just super reluctant to give us any real signs of it happening.

>I've been watching it for the past hour or so, and a lot of the old charm shines through.
That's how they getcha. Always keeping that flame burning. Don't fall for it.
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>>83562545
>Finn has not physically changed at all
I looked back and he seems to have gotten a LITTLE taller (people cling to that like crazy). But it's pretty insignificant and varies between artists. Worse than doing nothing at all if you ask me, but maybe they felt they had to do a tiny token something because his voice is booming deep manly crap now.
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>>83562596
>>83562545
Fuck guys, just rewatched Breezy. Ho boy, that punch still hits just as hard. They totally failed to explain how his arm came back. Also, she loved the flower, not him.

Also I totally forgot ABOUT THE PART WHERE LSP STRAIGHT UP RAPES FINN LIKE WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID THEY DECIDE TO WRITE THAT
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>>83562713
Breezy is why I haven't watched the show in years. It was the straw that broke my back, when I realized no character progression was real.
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>>83556965
Artist and can you do more?
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>>83562713
As explained to me by apologists, his depression had been blocking the grass arm from regrowing. It's symbolic blah blah.

The real issue is how the ending of that fucking episode is supposed to show a return to mental health. I see it as the ultimate in repression and delusion.

>rape
welllll, he said ok. but it's still coercion of somebody who didn't know any better. apparently the author was writing about an experience he once had. because that's totally appropriate for Finn.

you know I always liked the idea that Finn would eventually get roped in by LSP's constant pestering. but I didn't imagine it would be so dramatic and gross. yech.
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>>83539047
>>83544692

all he needs to to do is get a magic growing spell or become cursed with a giant cock.

shouldn't be that difficult to find in ooo.
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>>83562713
Breezy is what caused me to become a full on cynical AT fan. The arguments some people us to defend it are amazing.

The LSP psuedo-rape thing was just.... why? That really had to be in the episode Jesse, the fuck is wrong with you guy?
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>>83562841
>>83562908

Same, Breezy was my breaking point with the show I considered my favorite cartoon. I'm making an effort to give s6 another go around, though. I feel like I owe it that, given I haven't watched the show since Breezy aired. I just watched Food chain, and I don't know who guest animated that episode but it's fucking amazing.
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>>83562687
That's so inconsistent that I don't even count it. There seems to be just as many boarders who draw him as being the same height when he was 12 as those who give him a few more inches.

Sometimes they're even in the same episode, Finn's height changed like crazy during Elemental. And only Kent was the boarder for that one! Even when there's only one fucking person drawing the thing nothing is consistent, so the people who say he's taller are just a little delusional.
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>>83562908
Makes sense plotwise. He got burned for being a slut. Made a choice he regretted, which forced him to quit that shit and vow to...wait for true love, I guess? Reaffirm his "duties" and commitments.

Depressing and fucked up message but not incoherent.
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>>83563001
I don't see why that same message couldn't have been gotten across with Finn just kissing LSP and continuing to be as unsatisfied as he had been with every other princess. I don't think the PG-13 rape scene to get Finn at his lowest point was super integral to the plot.

Jesse just doesn't know when to stop self inserting, crazy fucker has to go all the way. He probably considers himself a failure as an artist if doesn't go the full mile or some shit.
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>>83563043
It could make sense if the point was to show that even though he achieved 'full release', he was still empty inside, because he was looking for true love not a fuck. He finally got what he was after and it sucked.

Like that's gonna happen with Finn lol. For goodness sakes he's looking for a simple girlfriend not ultimate spiritual fulfillment, JESSE.
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>>83563043
If he didn't self-insert, though, we probably wouldn't have gotten that Huntress Wizard episode.
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>>83563245
Eh, that was cool but whatever.
With Jesse gone now I don't see anything in the future happening with that anyway. HW was Jesse's girl and no one else seems to want to use her.
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>>83563245
which was also ruined by this anti-dating crap theme

why do relationships gotta be so goddamn SERIOUS? I would have loved Finn and HW to be together for awhile, but noooooo we have to have some highfalutin moral about not being spiritually ready for love. fun.
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>>83563282
With Jesse will die a whole bundle of interesting one-shot girls (except Canyon, looks like she'll survive).

Man is that guy worked up over girls, relationships and sex. I feel a little sorry for him and his issues that he needs to work out via a children's cartoon show.
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>>83563282
>Jesse's girl

kek
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>>83563397
Will Canyon survive? She's voiced by Ako and I thought she left the show (again) after working on Stakes?

I hope Canyon stays around, she's not super interesting and I doubt they'll do shit like develop her character or make her involved in the plot but she's a sexy blue giantess and sometimes that's enough.
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>>83539908

That was a very poorly worded description.
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>>83563445
Her godlike porn will endure even if she doesn't. Like you said, she's pretty boring anyway.

Also I know it's cool for Finn to have friends, but it's weird to see her hang out with him and he's seemingly not attracted to her at all. She's SO HOT Finn what are you thinking?! confirmed backwards taste retard who deserves to be alone.
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>>83563611
I kind of appreciate that because it seems to be quite a rarity that Finn has a woman he hangs out with purely on a platonic level. It's not like he has Marceline anymore and PB and FP have a lot of baggage.
With Canyon she's just his giant blue bro.

I guess as to explaining why Finn's just a total fucking pleb with no taste. Canyon's not a regular sized hot princess so Finn doesn't even consider her to be an option, she's too unconventional or something.
The kid's never gonna get anyone because the only broads he actually goes after aren't having it and the ones who might he never considers.
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>>83563445
If Me-Mow keeps getting bigger then they'll need Canyon's help to take her down again.
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Who better than Canyon?
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>>83538255
What episodes do I watch to see this guy?
And what episodes do I watch to see this canyon chick?
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>>83563770
Sharp eyebrows guy is in Five Short Tables. Don't get too excited, he's on screen for like 15 seconds.

Canyon is Billy's smokin ex girlfriend who shows up in Billy's Bucket List and Mama Said. Might wanna skip those episodes and just head right to the porn but they're there if you want them.
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>>83563689
I can understand why he'd be drawn towards a girl he can actually screw. His dick knows what it wants (even with literally-on-fire bitch, that masochistic sicko).

Although if this show wren't prude garbage he'd at least be poppin awkward boners at dem gigantic titties and constant upskirt views, as the OP illustrates.

In seriousness, I think the show would be better if Finn was allowed to casually lust after some chicks rather than OMG SO IN LOVE every time interspersed by periods of swearing off romance. I know he has an intense personality but geez. Great portrait of a profoundly unhealthy kid.
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>>83564179
Finn has bad, bad tunnel vision, and for a long while only PB and FP were in his sights. Even when he took detours from those two like in Breezy he wasn't really acting like himself.

I think Flute Spell may show some great growth for Finn, kind of. Going after some random chick like Huntress is pretty new for him: she's not a princess and it's the first time he tried going after someone who was kind of like him (read: not candy Hitler or a girl who had been imprisoned her entire life). HW seems like a rad girl who goes on adventures just like Finn.

It took him a while to admit- or perhaps even realize- that he was attracted to her. Maybe he was just embarrassed, or maybe he was still conflicted over his feelings of PB and FP. Maybe he thought he was betraying them or some shit like that.

He still admitted it though, and things actually kind of worked out. HW didn't get with him, but that's cause she's a weirdo, not due to any fault of Finn. He seemingly ends up accepting that dating sucks but in the end is worth it if you find that special someone.

I just vomited a mountain of bullshit, but what I'm saying is that this seems to be some sort of growth for him, maybe. He was exploring his horizons and it didn't end up burning him nearly as badly as in the past. So maybe he's massively better off from it.

Or maybe it's Adventure Time and this episode will never be further referenced, but I'll never give up the dream, dammit.
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>>83544168
finn could totally take the knot, i bet he practices with jake all the time.
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>>83564425
kasu go home
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>>83564448
I gotta give that weirdo props for how into that silly crackship she is. We have these super big discussions about Finn's love life and she's just over there schlicking to the thought of Jake filling up Finn with his doggy batter. Great stuff.

Also Finn/Jake is like trying to get the most publicly reprehensible fetishes all in one go.
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>>83564486
Don't try to pass yourself as some other person you've already outed yourself. Now draw more finnsmut. Tired of seeing the same two whores on my dashboard
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>>83564532
If I was her I'd probably be at work or something nigga, it's like ten in the morning in Poland time. That lady has a job and is making a name for herself and shit.
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>>83564545
>implying you can't post from work
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>>83564556
She takes that stuff seriously bro, ain't no chump.
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>>83564572
unless you know her personally or were her I don't think you'd know that
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>>83564595
I'm making inferences based on evidence my man.
You can trust me, the Internet never lies.
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>>83564626
what evidence? I bet you stalk her tumblr, sicko
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>>83564675
She's one of like ten AT tumblr fans left, I like staying updated on news and getting fanart. Sue my homie.
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>>83564308
I found it worrisome because he was still so fixated on her in that creepy way of his. In his vision he killed himself without a second thought just for a chance to be with her. The tone was so depressing and fatalistic, like he'll always be at the mercy of whichever girl has his heart. So at the end when he was like "meh whatever, this is fine", I couldn't really believe he was ok.

But I agree it was good he finally realized he was falling for her after repressing it like mad the whole episode. Healthier than before maybe? It's bizarre how guilty he seems to feel.

Maybe it is because of his knightly nature where he's still attached to the woman he served first (PB)... but that kind of conflicts with the show trying to tell me he totally doesn't feel that way about her anymore.

Overall it's like they're trying to say it's ok to shrug off a relationship failure and move on -- but I can't buy it, because the tone is still so SAD. Pen is still the knight of some girl, I guess.

The cure for this shit is to actually let Finn have a light relationship without all this dumb baggage and hand-wringing. I don't know why they make episodes like Flute Spell if it's not leading up to him having a decent girlfriend. I mean if it hasn't happened yet, when would it?
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>>83564687
Alright you pass
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>>83564732
Phew, almost got caught.
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I want to see more Flynnverse
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>>83564703
>In his vision he killed himself without a second thought just for a chance to be with her.
Is that worse than what he usually does though? Jumping into danger for someone else is Finn's usual MO ain't it? The fact that he was doing it for some girl he wanted to impress (and put his Willie in) doesn't really change that.

I do kind of agree on things seeming fatalistic though, maybe it's just the fact that it's happened in other episodes but Flute Spell did give me the impression that Finn is doomed to be loveless. Or maybe not that, but the universe will always trip him up at the last second or something.

If you interpret it as something like the hero's curse is to be unloved or something that mite b cool, but the show does seem to be trying to have Finn learn lessons that will help him get a girl, but they never reach that point.

Finn's depressing but I kind of like it, I think it helped me get more invested in the confused kid. The fact that it's probably all accidental on the writer's part is hilarious.
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>>83556830
i haven't seen the show in a while, so who is this?
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>>83564889
Bandit Princess. Local cunt who delayed both the Finn Sword and Grass Arm arcs in one go.
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>>83564923
"Local cunt" made me burst out laughing, thank you anonymous poster.
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>>83564923
Eh at the end of the ep i think something is going to happen with his sword. Plus he broke it his self and if he didnt would have just keep talk to it.
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I just want Huntress Wizard and Finn to go adventuring together and occasionally bang, is that so wrong? I accepted Marcy wasn't going to hook up with him, sort of understood why he didn't go after Canyon since that would basically be going after his hero's widow, but seriously? Huntress Wizard was the dopest of all wizards. The design was great, her powers were great, and her personality just solidified how much of a total match they'd be. Like a ranger to his knight. Man...Jake understood.
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>>83564997
That would be too easy of a resolution to his arcs. Needs more suffering/10
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>>83564997
He respects billy to much to go after his girl.
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>>83564830
>Jumping into danger for someone else is Finn's usual MO ain't it?
I wanna say it's different to actively kill yourself (or think about it / symbolically do it) because I'm sure he doesn't really believe he's going to die when he does something dangerous.

But then again he's supposed to be a crazy fantasy paladin who lives for others, right? How sad I find his behavior depends on whether I think of him as a normal kid or a supernatural force. Which is a problem the show has now, it can't decide if he's normal and needs help, or above needing help.

>The fact that it's probably all accidental on the writer's part is hilarious.
These guys couldn't possibly write such a tragic character on purpose. I agree it's fascinating but it feels perverse to interpret things as so depressing when they were probably, somehow, meant to be happy.
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>>83564923
lol which episode? i think the last i saw was The Thin Yellow Line, so not too far back
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>>83565060
I am sword
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>>83565070
ah ok thanks. looking at the next one i have to see, it's broke his crown. didnt betty appear out of nowhere at one point and do something to ice king's crown? which episode was that and what did she di again? i forgot.

also, where can i watch the shorts that seem to be separate from season 6?
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>>83564997
Because this show isn't for manchildren who want cartoon characters to bang you giant autist.
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>>83564997
I honestly hate them for trotting out this ship just to kill it. I liked it better when everybody was like pffffff keep dreaming shiptard, she's so much older and wouldn't give a shit about Finn!

I'm going to come to your house Jesse.
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>>83538751
>implying
I'm kinda glad she hasn't come back to be ruined but please. Maybe just once to catch up.
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>>83565088
Finn was dicking around with his sword. Dropped it,lost it. She found it killed some ppl with it. He gets mad at her. Fight happens and he kills his own sword and now she is gone.
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>>83544168
It would be sentient so yeah. No reason not to. Finn doesn't fuck no animals.
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>>83546494
i've never seen this one. Is it new?
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>>83565048
Hey man, death of the author and all that wacky shit.
Finn's too interesting to only interpret in the way the show wants you to.

>>83565159
Nah, from a year or two back.
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>>83565177
This is just something i wanted to post because of the little art of BP.
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>>83539908
Yes you will. You just will never remember.
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>>83556830
is it me or does she look like Golan the insatiable
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>>83566176
It's possible that she was made as joke by one of the artists . She's a rule63 Golan and then some producer saw it and wanted to do as a real character.
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>>83540462
You may notice the lake of water at the beach. Jake took Finn to the Desert Beach because he was too scared of the ocean.

Sorry this took so long! They made me work double my scheduled hours at work and stay late. I'll do some more of these requests in a bit!
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>>83539047
Sadly, celebrity V.A's are a rare quality.
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>>83567392
That's great! No worries about the wait. It was worth it. Thanks, man.
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>>83537993
oh great

i've never watched this show, but now i need to draw giant blue girls, preferably with massive mountains. thanks /co/
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>>83567392
You dont see a better friendship like these today. And regularshow friendship is abit abusive
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>>83538073
>>83554327
>>adventure inside Canyon's tummy
it does seem cozy
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>>83561813
Big D wants the big D
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>>83559967

The writers love Marceline and kinda dislike Finn. They want Marceline to be the MC.
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So, the fire giants that created the fire kingdom and are worshipped as gods there were built by Mo. What was the reason behind it? Was that his own personal initiative, or were there other humans still alive at that time? Was the fire element chosen by them because fire is humanity's oldest ally, scaring wolves away since 2 million years BC and shit? Did the remnats of humanity need an ally because they were being exterminated by the Candy Hitler to make room for her eternal empire?
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>>83539908
A better way to phrase it is you will never go spelunking in your giantess waifu

>>83544692
>>83556828
Yes, assuming he doesn't mind diving right in there and playing the part of a living vibrator
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>>83568932
It'll be really hard to determine why he built them since we don't know what they're initial purpose was; the Fire Kingdom most likely just re-purposed them.
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>>83568932
They were probably made to provide electrical power. They seem to last forever. Heat is just a byproduct.
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>>83569125
> the Fire Kingdom most likely just re-purposed them
The Fire Kingdom hadn't existed before the giants made it, check the FP's song from "The Cooler".
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>>83569175
I meant the fire people, not necessarily the kingdom itself. Their home is all that was made by the fire giants, not the fire people. And they worship them as gods, when they're probably just insane propane tanks that grill hot; whether intentionally or malfunctioning.
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>>83569322
Well, maybe they unintentionally created the fire kingdom when they "crashed from the skies" and were kept by the fire people as idols. That kinda explains why FP seems to have no idea how they work and waits for them to wake up on their own in a time of need instead of just turning them on.
Still doesn't explain why Mo needed huge flying war robots and what has shot them down from the sky.
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>>83569496
Perhaps they were intended to defend against another outsider threat from space? I'mean so far as we know, that's where the Lich came from originally.
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>>83559967
>>83560352
>>83560805

Glad I am not the only one that misses this. One of the things that got me into adventure time was the interaction between Marceline and Finn.

Back then Finn was the White Knight of the strict Bubblegum with rules on doing good. Marceline was the exact opposite of Bubblegum. Her morals were low, she is not afraid to act bad here and there and she brought out Finn's wild side. The episode with them going nuts and fighting wolves was one of my favorite episodes.
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>>83569782
Whaler please leave.
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>>83565177
Alright. So when will Finn grow up physically and please those two lovely ladies? It has been years. The guy is like what 16? 17? It is about time he at least becomes Bubblegum and Marceline's height.
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>>83569888
A lifelong diet of candy, may have stunted his growth.
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I use to think AT world got the way it was because of that bomb. But when i saw elemental it was already like that even on other worlds. How abe lincon became jesuse ill never know. But instead i welcome him as my god. Next to sith lord jar jar binks
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>>83562848
http://oaksketch.tumblr.com/post/145476713965/the-bandit
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>>83569932
> A lifelong diet of candy, may have stunted his growth
A coincidence, or an elaborate plan?
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>>83569995
The new ice chick gave us more clues. There was no appreciable amount of magic in the world. Buona Notte, may have had some hand in the past, and was removed from the world somehow.
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>>83570104
If I were creating a land of beings that were a wonderful source of calories, and I didn't want them eaten by predators, i would make the poisonous. It just doesn't seem like a real plan to just make them not vitamin rich. If anything, blame his dog parents for not teaching him about eating his green vegetables.
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>>83570124
But i give it to AT they know how to have fun. I mean abe lincon is jesus? Thats kinda cool. And look at this shit. My legion mount from WoW looks like shit compared to this.
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>>83569888
>Finn undergoes a magic spell to become the same size as his One True Love
>he becomes the same size as Canyon
Mainstream Waifuists BTFO
Giant Woman/Tiny Man Fetishists BTFO

Just imagine.
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>>83570270
This thing can fly and has shotguns on for tusks. This doesnt get you money,power,or hoes i dont what will.
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>>83569782
Seconding this desire
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>>83570270
He's not fighting anymore thought, he's busy playing with an unconscious green woman.
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>>83570104
After seeing Steven Universe win some Progressive Points for their relationships (shorter male and taller female go against traditional gender roles), Adventure Time might copy them while claiming that short Finn was the plan all along.
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Would you, even if she kept calling you "Wenis" during sex?
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How much villainy can be blamed on the loomy gloom? Not absolving villains of their wrongdoing, but there is an established madness for magic users.
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>>83570616
You just need to have it. Not fight with it. And bitches should flock to you. I mean it be cool if they did and even if they dont well you got something better then any car.
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>>83554548
Gonna report that account as well.
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>>83570786
But how would those bitches feel when they see the elephant giving the green woman her daily elephant-trunk enemas?
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>bluh bluh bluh Beezy is the devil! It made me quit AT/become a cynical whiner on the Internet

It's always entertaining to read spineless, pretentious morons whining about things that weren't even that bad.
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So, what's the deal with all the near-human species? Maja is basically just a little off-color but otherwise human in appearance. Canyon has all the right parts to be considered a huge human. The whole village of goblins that are basically pale humans with awesome ears and noses. What about the business men?
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>>83571089
Oh shit guys we've got a badass with "superior" perfect taste over here and he's using an aggressive attitude on 4chan of all fucking places
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>>83571186
>Canyon has all the right parts to be considered a huge human.
No human has ever been or will ever be that huge.
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>>83540521
Didn't really get the silhouette right, but oh well.
Here's the nsfw version though http://imgur.com/NLfWY5k
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>>83571021
This is before when you first get it and you want to impress some local woman. I mean you cant impress PB because she is too good for magical stuff like this. But i mean some hoes my like it.
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>>83571375
She is,has and always be my number one.
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>>83571409
Use to be marcy but like time goes on better females arise and pushes out these "little girls"
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>>83571454
I'd happily accept Marcy as Finn's endgame, but they hardly ever hang out anymore.
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>>83571454
There's so many characters they need to develop more of, and it's sad how many of them just turn to backdrops. I'm still annoyed at the last episode Flame Princess was in, just having her be lazy and a wannabe rapper. That''s not the route I expected of her.

At least Marcy gets stuff like Stakes, and her biggest problem is they don't give her enough time to do anything anymore. I want more of this though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8E_jtl-v1s I want a full version of this so bad.
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>>83571186
> What about the business men?
Thawed out of ice, so they probably belonged to the old world before the nuke. Their zombie-like behaviour might be explained as them being revived via magic (you can't really be frozen in ice and stay alive) but is an obvious joke at how corporative office culture sucks the life out of people.
> what's the deal with all the near-human species?
Might be just a coincidence, might be because they are mutated descendants of humanity. The hooman guys (Susan's fish-people) are clearly mutated humans who tried to survive the fallout underground.
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I have to say, Finn reacts to Canyon's canyon a lot more positively than he did when he watched Marcy undressing for a shower.
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>>83571780
Her species reproduces asexually. She's totally smooth under there. No disgusting genitals to traumatize Finn.
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>>83571780
He's looking at her hanging tits, not her pussy.
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>>83571186
>So, what's the deal with all the near-human species?
Mutated humans, even Finn is a little mutated when compared to Farmworld Finn.
>What about the business men?
Brain damaged pre-war humans? Considering the lake they were frozen in was a melting iceberg, I'm guessing Ice King or Patience put them there.
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>>83572297
Pretty sure the Business Men were just friendly zombies
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>>83571554
Thing is that since the fans still want the orignal girls like marcy and PB there is no real room for the new girls. I mean only one i still like is LSP because she has character.
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>>83544958
Someone post the screencap of Cornfed explaining why she's best girl
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>>83571375
I'm surprised you went ahead made a nsfw version. Just wanted to let you know that both look fantastic.
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>>83572400
I'm just wondering how they got their in the first place. I mean isn't it a little suspcious that the only body of water separating the Candy Kingdom from the Lich's lair is a lake full of icebergs?
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>>83572528
Probly had to do with the ice lady or they fell in during that cactaclysm.
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>>83572528
It's the same place. You can even see the Gauntlet Dock as they're pursuing the Lich to that iceberg lake/sea/whatever.
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>>83572586
Anon, I didn't say they were different places.
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How would /co/ feel about a water nymph being Finn's endgame?
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>>83571375
Honestly her going after younger men doesnt seem as bad as if ice king going after a female.
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>>83572754
Specifically this one, right?
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>>83572754
They're not developed enough for that to happen. The new one has the hots for Finn, and I'm gonna be pissed if FP and Finn's romance gets resurrected because FP get's mad Finn is dating a water elemental.
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>>83572754
I don't think its ever been a problem who Finn ends up with. (at least not for me) But rather how its delivered and set up. So far pretty much all Finn's romances have felt kinda forced and poorly written. They just need to pick someone, stick with it and flesh out the relationship real well and everything will be aces.
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>>83573147
Darren was a cool dude, shame they used him in an episode as poorly set up as Something Big.
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>>83572950
I would love to see many powerful women characters of AT fight each other for Finn's love in a season finale.

And then Finn dies and all the oh-so-brillant-and-stronk-women weeps in woe like the bitches they are
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>>83571089
great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions
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>>83573355
You really should have stopped this post a sentence sooner.
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>>83573716
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>>83573875
Can you really blame him?
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>>83538223
The new Fiona and Cake episode was kinda weak.
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>>83574153
At least it had Ice Queen again. She's the best F/C character by far.
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>>83574202
If by "best" you mean "fuckable".
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>>83574274
That certainly doesn't hurt her appeal.
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I still dream of the da gashi does actual porn
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>>83574519
oh shit, i love those style of panties!
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>>83562545
pissed me off when we saw BMO plucking out finn's moustache hairs, but it was the writers just basically telling us CN won't allow him to go offmodel, ever
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>>83562908
>>83562927
the important thing is finn got some kisses. fuck everything else, i loved it for that
i also loved breezy herself
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>>83575263
They are bloomers :3
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>>83565108
especially if she's.. say.. gotten a bit taller..
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>>83571186
canyon is presumably in the same family as billy, who's identified as a halfgiant.
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>>83569133
Do you have source for this?
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>>83575775
i guess this confirms her original outfit had a tail cover, and her tail isnt just inexplicably green
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>>83571375
Would you mind tackling this next? >>83545415
If you want something more specific, how about the two of them making a sexy pose together? what they're wearing or not is all up to you.
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Seems that the overwhelming majority of royalty are female, and the overwhelming majority of wizards are male. Should more princesses be dating wizards? Is Ice King's only true crime, that he was ahead of the curve?

You now remember that Princess Bubblegum sponsors an annual contest that is designed to get wizards to battle to the death.
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>>83576544
well she endorses it anyway, and contributes a prize. i get the feeling that contest is mostly about wiz biz. wizards do their own shit and PB knows full well she needs to stay on their good side even if she kind of hates them.
i think it's funny how she's been all MUH SCIENCE and now she finds out she is straight up a candy elemental. you cant blame her though, candy doesn't seem like a magic thing.. it's what you get when you put sugar in a pot and science it for a while.
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That contest probably also keeps the wizards' number down because they're supposed to all fuckin' die except one. though since a lot of them reappeared later i guess they don't enforce that very hard.
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>>83576811
Maybe that's what happened to most of the female wizards.
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>>83576544
All the wizards are like neckbeards.
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>>83576811
They just turn into cats if they lose. I'm sure they put some safeguard in place to change back afterwards.
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>>83576981
they get turned into cats if they REFUSE to fight
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>>83576981
Maybe PB created the battle, purely as a way to get rid of Ice King. The kiss prize is designed to be a lure to get the ice King to appear. She doesn't care if the others cheat death, and is literally prepared to kiss the wizard that kills Ice King.
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>>83575599
https://twitter.com/jonpei/status/739906083326595072
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>>83577264
Thanks!
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Does anyone have a link to that last thread? The one that was complaining about Fionna's weight? There was some good stuff in there.
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>>83562197
>This leads to the most straightforward critique of the episode – its casual sexism. While typically I think Adventure Time does interesting stuff politically (moreso in the later seasons), this is a major problem here. All the princesses are portrayed as helpless and incapable of doing anything, and it takes the masculine heroes Finn & Jake to rescue them. One of the only significant lines from this episode's large list of female characters is Slime Princess asking Finn to marry her. At this point, the show is still only reiterating and pastiching concepts from genre fiction and not yet critiquing them.

Yeah I can tell I'm gonna hate this dude.
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>>83577495
Wonder if he has anything to say about the sexism towards Finn, or the obvious homo-baiting with Bubbline.
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>>83577495
I mean, he's not wrong I guess.

I don't really care about that because they are just playing the DnD roles straight but what he's saying is still true mang.
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>>83577264
That's an awesome Ricardio pic that artist made.
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>>83577599
>he's not wrong I guess
he could not be more wrong.
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>>83577643
But the episode was a little sexist dude.
How come you think it wasn't?
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>>83577599
he's not wrong factually, but it's an annoying thing to label as a critique since like you said, they're just playing it straight. they weren't tryin to hate on women.

he's gonna jizz himself when he gets to the new episodes and that overbearing political commentary.
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>>83577665
Well, there have always been "strong women" in the show. Marceline and Bubblegum and more.

It's just part of the humor that most of the princesses are so worthless and Finn has to scoop them up like the traditional hero he is. It's a SUBTLE criticism of the roles while still using the roles.
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>>83577946
It was a lot more of a social critique than an actual "this episode is bad because of bla bla" critique and I kind of felt myself annoyed by that as well, but AT's pretty decently progressive I guess so he's kind of measuring the episode against the rest of the show's overall standards.

Everyone goes nuts about how the ladies in the show go against the grain and all of that shit so I see that kind of stuff of a lot.
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>>83577665
you have to be brainwashed in a very specific way to think it is.
and you have to be an absolute and utter sociopath to think negatively of 'reiterating and pastiching concepts from genre fiction instead of critiquing them'
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>>83577665
Because he, like many of us, doesn't perceive the difference of roles between genders as a "terrible problem" that needs solving.
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>>83578030
So you think it's shameful to need help and rescuing? I thought we called those people heroes.
Not that we should, but I thought we were doing that
now you're not only saying that's a bad thing, but that depicting it is bad and indicates some kind of viewpoint being preached in the show?
go to church, asshole.
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>>83578062
>Everyone goes nuts about how the ladies in the show go against the grain
My problem is they writers had to turn it up to 11 before morons noticed. Princess Bubblgeum, for example, was always kickass, but just because she relied on Finn sometimes, she was called a helpless weak sexist portrayal of a girl.

So now she's ridiculously OP and needs nobody (except Marceline I guess, bleh) and is a shittier character for it.
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>>83578030
At that point PB just showed up once, Marceline doesn't exist yet, and LSP was a total bitch. So the minor princesses make up like 80% of the female characters in the show and they all just kind of sat there and cried about needing to be rescued.
I can see where the guy's coming from, even if I personally don't care.
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>>83578178
This is a point very few people notice though. Even the show-writers fooled themselves in this way.
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>>83578187
technically marceline existed, she was part of the original show pitch just after the pilot, even though she wasn't in it. i only mention because she's the only other character besides finn, jake, pb, lady, and ice king who was in that original pitch, and it's an interesting read. he basically did it in the style of a storybook
>sat there and cried
that's because they were the only ones ice king was able to capture. the wimpy princesses like wildberry princess, raggedy princess, hotdog princess, slime princess.. these are the girls who sometimes only rule a small patch of ground, fly apart if they sneeze, or even have trouble MOVING without someone helping them. the idea that they somehow represent the entire female sex can only come from someone who makes it their business going around inciting pain and encouraging offense. e.g. satan.
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Just because the princesses who rule entire kingdoms can't defend themselves in a 1v1 against a powerful mage without any powers on their own doesn't mean they are "weak". People these days are ready to label any depiction of a woman in trouble as sexist, it's getting ridiculous.
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>>83577358
Seconded, I forgot to save most of that art to my folder.
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> This leads to the most straightforward critique of the show – its casual sexism
How come all the rulers are women? All the notable men in the show are either evil unjust rulers or knights serving the more reasonable women. In fact, after FP usurped her father (which was portrayed as a good thing btw), she immediately became a better and more righteous ruler, despite being a teen who was locked in her room for the majority of her life and having no world experience whatsoever. Guess she's just "naturally wise", just like all the women, huh?
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>>83579083

Anon. Men are stupidly violent by nature. And that's good. If they weren't nature would have murdered our species into extinction.
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>>83579083
I know you're havin a laugh but FP's deal is literally all because the writers are sloppy and barely care about her as a character.

I can't believe her whole "No one in my kingdom is allowed to lie" thing hasn't come and bit her in the ass yet, that was such an obvious thing that it's crazy the show hasn't done stuff with it yet.

Maybe the writers don't care about FP because she's a boring woman who was solely defined by her romantic connections to a man for the first half of her existence, so its sexism's fault in the end anyway. Crazy stuff.
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>>83579258
that's not crazy, that's a fucking commandment. that's perjury dude. that's fraud. i mean obviously you only enforce it when you're engaging in something with a legal basis, but the more stands.
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>>83579258
I am having a laugh. Still, trying to remember any morally good men in a position of power in Ooo gets me nowhere. Flame King is evil, Fight King is evil, King of Ooo is a felon, Lich is evil incarnate, Hunson is evil, Vampire King is evil etc, etc. The only exceptions I can remember are the wizards (and that's because female wizards are a separate species) and the martians (well, it IS Mars).
Guess they tried to balance their male paladin lead with powerful women characters not to piss the crowd and overdid it.
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>>83577358
>>83578750
I tried looking through the archive for you, but couldn't see it. Maybe it was deleted? Or maybe I missed it.
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>>83579614
I'm thinking right now too, lets see.
Abraham Lincoln (RIP)
Billy (he was in a position of power and morally good)
I think Simon Petrikov counts.
Uh,,, Joshua was an alright dad but also kind of an asshole so I think he's out.
Guess that's it.

A bigger concern is I think that it's mostly that there are just a lot more women characters than there are men ones. There are lots of ladies but aside from Finn, Jake, and Ice King most of the other men are mooks and bit guys who get little focus.

And keep in mind the women are fucked up too. PB is (was?) a terrible person, Marceline used to be before they retconned that, there's lady villains and bad guys too.
It seems they're making a conscious effort to balance things out which I appreciate at least.
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I dropped this show after PB turned 13, and immediately turned her back to normal.

I expected a bit more risk-taking from adventure time.
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>>83577358
This one?

http://desustorage.org/co/thread/83530323/
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>>83579755
> Abraham Lincoln
Yes, the martian leaders count. GGGG is an interesting example, one of the faces has a female voice, but I think every time they are mentioned the singular male pronouns are used?
> Billy (he was in a position of power and morally good)
Billy was a knight-errant much like Finn. Both have power but not much authority. I should have specified that probably.
> I think Simon Petrikov counts
Pre-crown Simon was just a random dude. Post-crown Ice King is a creepy old pathetic kidnapper without any subjects (penguins ignore him retty much). I wouldn't count that.
> Joshua
A private one-of-many investigator and/or monster slayer isn't really important on a grand scale of things.
> there are just a lot more women characters than there are men ones
True. Does that mean AT is actually a harem anime in disguise?
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>>83580045
AT's like a deconstruction of a harem anime or some shit.
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>>83579844
Yes, thank you.
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>>83580045
i dont recall one of the globs having a female voice
i do know pen's joke idea for their voices was the four famous bills
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This thread lasted longer than I though it would.
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Should we make a new thread?
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>>83580236
> i dont recall one of the globs having a female voice
Wiki says Grob is voiced by Melissa Villasenor. I think the head that says "Whaaat, I don't believe it." at the end of the normal man episode is that one.
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>>83579614
Finn's hardly good anymore either. It's less like a balancing and more like a shift into brainwashing.
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>>83579755
Funny how Billy's like the only dead character to stay dead. He was a good role model, let's kill him.

>PB is (was?) a terrible person
She is but I don't think the writers think she is. Heart of gold, just doing what she thinks is right, etc. etc. It didn't use to be that way. Older seasons were always teasing her for being so obviously messed up, while newer seasons imply there's justification for everything she does.
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>>83580301
If y'all need it. >>83580565
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>>83575467
Seems reasonable to assume, but not guarenteed.

>>83571186
The idea that every near-human species is the result of mutation seems supported by how some characters exist in the alternate farmworld timeline as humans, where said mutation never occured.
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