How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #281

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>*-We also got a DISCORD CHAT going on, ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfl6Lu3xQW0 [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

Starting with a question from the last thread: what kind of ink / ink-pens do you use?
What are the best brands?

If you do it all digitally, do you have a drawing tablet?
What are the best brands?

>>83535358
I do everything digitally, use an old wacom intous tablet.

Hiveworks deadline is coming up, anybody here submitting to it? What are you planning on sending in?

>>83535405
I bought a middle-prized wacom tablet recently. It was sold as new but the code for the program package was expired. Now it's just a useless chunk of plastic.

Any idea where I can steal the program package?

To the person asking about Mimi lewds, I prefer if you didn't bit it's not like I can stop you.

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Finally an update after over 3 months! Next update in 2017?

>>83535472
No clue. If it's an old one you probably won't find it anywhere.

>>83535358
I can't comment on other brands, but the wacom intuos I've had for the past six years works just fine despite going through a lot of rough handling and transport in that time. I did have the nibs on the stylus run down and had to buy replacements, but if I hadn't lost the extras that came with the tablet that wouldn't have been a problem.

>>83535472
>program package
What? Do you mean the drivers? Those should be free on the wacom site.

>>83535405
>Hiveworks

I'd love to do it for the sake of free website design, but I want to be able to rake in those sweet waifu patreon bucks at some point, so it's probably not a good idea.

Also
>3 fully thumbnailed pages or a 250-word script.
HA.jpg

>>83535699
you can still use patreon

post comics

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Finally after nearly two years of putting it off, I've started making a comic.
It's a Mario parody with swearing because I figured there wasn't enough of those already.
http://thesuperbrothers.tumblr.com/

I've lurked these threads for a long time and, honestly, I never would have started without them.

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>>83535358
The Pentel Pocket Brush Pen is the main brushpen I use. It's a go-to for a lot of pros. Excellent weights and variation in line, and refillable. You can't go wrong with it.

As for fineliners the Faber Castell PITT pens are the usual industry standard

>>83536786
keep trucking my man

>>83535699
Their character design examples are dreadful.

>>83535699
>3 fully thumbnailed pages or a 250-word script.HA.jpg
Is that hard?

>>83538598
It's pathetically easy, and is likely just there to confirm you actually did your pages instead of stealing them.

>>83538813
Oh, also, they're not comparable.
A 250 word script isn't going to give NEARLY as much information and nuance as three pages of thumbnails.

>>83538598
250 words is like two paragraphs. It's barely enough to plot out two pages unless you Marvel Method it. Heck, this post is 25 words.

>>83538923
Only if you're a shitty scripter.

>>83538939
"writer" detected

>>83538939
Or one that bothers to do their job.
Most scripters don't even give vague details on things like composition, angle, body language, etc. Artists are used to working with halfassed writers, but if you're making a good script 250 isn't going to cover three pages.

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>>83539002
For example, have a Moore excerpt.

The man is VERY concise, a titan among comic writers in his sheer precision and conservation of detail, and even on a dialogue light page he goes over Hivework's limit in four panels.

>>83539106
>I forgot to mention that
lol

Not the best example, but 250 is really low for three pages.

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draft thumbnails for my HW submission, thots?

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Almost done with a new page. I really want to wrap up this chapter!

>>83539432
Why is the light source so dim compared to the outlines it produces? Isn't that pretty ass-backwards?

>>83539692
Making it stronger didn't work. I could try reducing the outlines saturation

>>83539002
>implying the writer knows better than the artist what will look good on a page

>>83539748
>Implying there's a need for a writer with no ability to direct a page.
All you're left with is dialogue and pacing, at which point they should probably be your editor, not your script writer.

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I'll update in half an hour. Which version should I use, the one with text or the one without?
The characters are established and everything.

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>>83539931

>>83539931
>Using the JoJo "To Be Continued" Arrow.
>It's not pointing to the end of the page.
I dislike you already.

>>83539966
That's the joke you dummy.

>>83539966
I already changed that in the psd.
I didn't want to change it at first, to keep it the way it was in the manga.

>>83539106
Everybody knows Alan Moore writes whole chapters for every panel, but it doesn't mean it's a good practice, writing comics is not "the more words you have the better".

When you write a script, the important thing is to pass to the writer your intentions, and you could waste his time writing a whole gigantic paragraph where you describe the unfolding of events like you were writing a book to the reader himself, on how in this panel this character is creeping on the scene, and he feels a shiver run through his spine when he sees this thing on the background that is beyond his wildest imaginations and he has these conflicted emotions, and he is kinda angry, but kinda skeptic, all before realising he is sad at the point of breaking up crying only to THEN reveal he is looking at "this character" dead body, or you could simply write "dude, our hero is walking into this scene and finding out this character's dead body. he has this expression on his face, he is feeling this way.
dead body in the foreground, our hero in the background" and the effect to the reader would be the same.

Your artist doesn't need surprises, he needs to know from panel 1 where this page is going. Most of this description will be lost in translation and will only serve to distract the artist from the most important shit to be portrayed on the panel. The artist will sketch the page, and every time he wants to remember what he was supposed to illustrate there he will be welcomed by an exausting wall of text.

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>>83539692
How about now?

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>>83539882
How much direction are we talking, though? I'd like to see how much direction other writers in /hyw/ give their artists so I can see how differing levels of detail work for others.

Pic related is an example of the average amount of direction I give in my scripts (issue 2 page 4 if you want to compare). I'd say this is a pretty good representation of how much direction I give on average. Sometimes I'll have ultra-specific directions and sometimes we'll just go full-on Marvel Method (issue 1 page 13 is an example of this) but usually it's pretty much just like this.

>>83540052
>writing comics is not "the more words you have the better".
Nobody said this.

>the important thing is to pass to the writer your intentions
I don't think anyone would argue against this.

>"dude, our hero is walking into this scene and finding out this character's dead body. he has this expression on his face, he is feeling this way.
dead body in the foreground, our hero in the background"
Well hey there, composition and body language! I think I mentioned those over here
>>83539002
and used Moore's writing as an example of using these things.

Also, 37 words for a splash page..unless you're trying to say that's all a writer should give you for a multi-panel page. Because if that's what you mean, your writer is fucking worthless because they aren't even writing the story beats.

>Your artist doesn't need surprises, he needs to know from panel 1 where this page is going.
Again, nobody would argue this.

>an exausting wall of text
And here's the problem: nobody ever implied that a script should be like that. The entire point was that 250 words for three pages is laughable if you want an idea of how someone works. If they meet it, it'll be so sparse that it reflects poorly on them. Now, they shouldn't write a fucking 700 word document on three pages, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying 250 is comically low, like asking for a two image thumbnail. There's not enough substance there to discern anything. Even 300 wouldn't be that bad, but 250? Fucking please.

>>83539931
>>83539942
Is this loss?

>>83541181
That's fine. If you were my writer I'd like a bit more detail, but that's my preference.

>>83541341
It looks a bit like it, but that wasn't even my intention.

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It's 3:59am and I don't know what I'm doing any more.
Kind anon from the last thread has left me conflicted - I prefer the linework of the right, but the cleaner left definitely looks better once coloured, right?

>>83541341
Thank god I wasn't the only one.

>>83542120
left designs look far better than right

>>83542120
She looks a LOT like a HTTYD character.

>>83542325
Her full design is way less Astrid, I promise! Her hair is also the wrong colour, I've noticed now I'm looking at my monitor instead.

>>83542313
Alright, sweet. I'll go over the other panels the same way.

>>83541261
>I'm just saying 250 is comically low, like asking for a two image thumbnail.

Maybe the 250 words script is more based on single creators who do writing and art but work with scripts instead of thumbnails?
Because in that case you already know what your intentions are, so don't need to spell everything out and the script might end up shorter. They're probably just setting very low requirements to avoid disqualifiying someone with a decent comic who doesn't really plan out their pages all that much.

>>83542418
It should be noted the 250 word requirement is the minimum. I think they would expect most people to go beyond it.

>>83542120
I like the cleaner version with more line-weight better - both with and without color.

No lineweight can also work, but imo that looks best if it's very minimalistc. Cleaner lines, flat colors, that sort of thing.

>>83542120
eithe one would work my dude, but i do prefer the left. whichever is better for you.
your character design vaguely reminds me of tyson hesse which is pretty fucking awesome.

>>83535518
>don't have to tell you
frog-ass bitch. you were my favorite.

>>83543149
B-but she's crying

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Current progress on the next page

>>83542120
really liking the more confident linework on the left

>>83543245
The dog looks like it's farting a noxious cloud.

>>83542512
Whoops, my bad.
I read it the wrong way around.

>>83539312
hehehehehehe. the tuna one is so damn cute. i love it

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>show comic to mom for the first time
>"it's very...interesting"
>she quickly excuses herself

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jus

>>83542120
>I prefer the linework of the right, but the cleaner left definitely looks better once coloured, right?
the left just has better shapes, that's the thing. the right has more lines, but the actual shapes are inferior (at least th ehair) and the lines under the eyes add nothing.. the poofy fluff actually look sworse on the right due to fewer lines (right? or at least, looser lines)
in the end, shapes matter more than anything
>>83542325
except her facial features are all where they belong

Fucked that up.

"JUS"t drew this idiotic shit

>>83543211
well i couldn't tell could i, it's so dark
>>83544179
you got me

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>>83535358
Most of my tools are pictured here.
-sable hair brush
-Japanese "G" nib pen
-brush pens
The only ones not shown are Micron Pigma pens.

As for brands:
Brush : Winsor and Newton series #7, and Escoda reserve
Brush pens: Pentel and Kuretaka makes some real fine quality brush pens.
Inkwells: Speedball India Ink.

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>>83544602
Second post with the Pigma pens.

To be honest though, all you need is something that'll make a mark on your paper. There's some great artists that don't even use inks and just edit their pencil levels in Photoshop to make them as dark as they can. I think it gives it a very nice feel to it.

>>83535497
Mimi is for cuddles and tea parties. Charles on the other hand...

so got dang many comics i've picked up from here have stopped updating. what's up with that?

Cold, when you read this, can you provide reference for Uzi?

>>83546062
Most people draw comics as a hobby.
Many will either get tired from it or real life will get in the way of regular updates.

I've barely been able to keep up with mine, though thankfully I've been able to update without interrupting the middle of any chapter

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>>83546107
>can you provide reference for Uzi?
:^)

>>83546420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94p_pLwV-uk

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>>83546107
you picked the MOMENT i took a shower. otherwise would have respondled instantly
uhh let's see.. I assume you mean her most recent look.
here i'll make you a collage

>>83547209
Thank you. Don't mean to be rude, but the navigation of your archive is a mess, and I couldn't remember the last time she appeared.

Appreciate the help!

>>83547301
for something this long i really should have figured out a tags system or something. i actually do have a map marked with color coded comic-numbers, but that map is a stupidly massive file. a smaller version of it is on the site.. but i need to make it an interactive flash file or something.
more fanart of villains or something yay

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How many of you start and stop a comic due to being unsatisfied with your art and the inexperience of making a comic? Any tips on how to break out of it and just commit?

>>83547461
The guy who did Skylight in these threads, the one with the qt robot girl, killed his comic due to dissatisfaction with the story. Which sucks, because I liked the story.

>>83547461
iunno but i like your shit
my characters would be sad if i stopped drawing them, so i can't

Which cute /hyw/ grill would you put in a background cameo in your comic?

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>>83535358
I'm poor, unskilled and cheap, I use permanent markers, something like this >>83544684
besides a very thick marker. I also use gouache once I finish. I have a drawing tablet, but it's 15 years old and it doesn't work well on W7 anymore.

Nice info on writing and scripting you had, anons. I was told by two writers that it's alright to write the whole story as a novelization, tnen script from it (not necessary, but a good idea). i'm doing that on my two original stories, but to be quite honest, it's a pain in the ass. So I'm not doing that to my half assed fancomic.

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more stupid shit

>>83547660
as many as I can.

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>>83547461
I started Jasper Gold 4 times in total. Twice it started as a sci-fi/westerner
Then once as a full on westerner.
Finally one last time again as a full on westerner, but with a different story plot.

Before I drew the story that you see today, I was conflicted with what kind of story i wanted to do. I must have drawn and inked at least 40+ pages before I was finally satisfied with what I had now.
Best thing you can do is to not get ahead of yourself. Take your time to plan out and outline your story. Jot down the basic plot points and story breaks till you are satisfied with what you got. Then move on to scripting/thumbnailing (depending if you're more a traditional comic maker or the visual story teller type). It will save you a great deal of headache, disappointment, and frustration.

Protip: it's a good idea to have a folder dedicated to comics/stories/images pertaining to the kind of story you're doing. I have an inspirational folder in my laptop and phone for those days when I'm feeling pretty uninspired. Perks me right back up to jump back in.

>>83547669
aw he likes bones and he is bones

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>>83547461
I'm currently on my way to kill a story I've been doing for almost five years, due to feeling unsatisfied with it, and also to try new stuff, so I know the feeling.
My advice would be to stop when you feel you're not going anywhere, and set sail in a different direction.
But I do acknowledge that commitment and discipline can help you face any hurdle, so ask yourself if you can keep the ship floating.

>>83547660
I'd love to do a certain big nosed grill with a sky blue dress and beautiful, blonde hair.

As for guys, I definitely want Rip from Vigormortis

As for my own work, Added text to my latest strip. Currently working the pencils of my final crossover. I'll be alone tonight at the office, so I'll take this chance to do more work on paper there.

>>83547461
>Any tips on how to break out of it and just commit?

Make short comics to start with, one to five pages. Use them for practice, and get experimental with them. If they're self-contained, it doesn't matter that Strip A uses a different style and technique to Strip B. Being short, they're easy to finish, and you get used to telling a complete story concisely, instead of meandering and going nowhere for ages.

When you're confident you know what you're doing with short strips, then start building up to longer ones.

>>83547461
>unsatisfied with your art and the inexperience of making a comic

yup it happens to me all the time, the only way to fight it is keep drawing and practicing untlil you feel good with your art, i already had 4 pages ready to begin my comic but after a while i realized that i can draw them way better and make the storytelling way better so now im re drawing them for like the 3rd time, it is frustrating but it also made me realize how much i need to get used to my tablet and how much i need to get better at drawing perspective,also i want to get my art as good i can before i start uploading pages to reduce the cringe i will feel when i go back to the firts pages in a few years
>>83547577
also this i can't stop drawing them for the same reason, all of them want to become a cartoon someday

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>>83547848
That is wonderful advice! I do have a inspo folder for my comic, and I love screen capping advice like your comment from threads like these. I had to look up your comic and your art is extremely charming. Do you just use traditional inks or do you create pages digitally?

>>83547577
Thank you! That is a different way to look at it, you stop drawing the comic, you kinda kill the characters. That may morbidly fuel the fire to keep going.

>>83535358
Inks: Copic Multiliners. Best because you can erase pencil and the lines won't fade. Even better because you can use Copics over them and the ink won't fade. For paper, Deleter comic paper or smooth Bristol. I used to use Uniball pens, but after getting copics I never went back.
Digitally: Cintiq and Surface Pro 4 for on the go. I love my Cintiq but too many damn wires. Would have gotten a Cintiq Companion but way outta my price range. Clip Studio Paint for creating comics.

This is what I've found works best for me, but I'm a strong believer in it's not the tools you use but your own personal skill.

>>83548183
well then take a step back and just draw them dicking around on your paper. they can wait to be in a comic til you have all the right ideas.
i forget what issue you're having, but i like to, whenever i'm watching a show or something, question what would happen if it went differently. what if they avoided that same cliche that they always do.. could i do a story like that

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>>83548254
Thank you anon, and I'm pretty much full on traditional for now. Though I'd like to delve into more digital in the near future. My tools are: >>83544684 and >>83544602 though I've been practicing with more pigmas lately to better control over my inks.

>>83535358
I don't, except for thumbnails and memory scribbles where I use whatever. Linework is made with a Pentel 0.5mm pencil with 1H leads.

I have a Wacom Graphire I don't use.

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>>83547461
I got into drawing comics about two years go as a hobby, two years later I'm still working on the same story and I haven't even gotten past the first ten pages. I never really showed my work to anyone so I didn't feel bad abandoning it and starting fresh whenever I felt I learnt something new and wanted to apply it. The story has changed completely from what it first was, but I still carry on a couple stylistic elements. It's been fun.

Pic related, oldest most embarrassing version I got.

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>>83548890
And here's the newest version, working on putting together a hiveworks submission.

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>>83548183
I would advise you all to strongly resist the urge to redraw early pages, keep going forward. Dave Sim would never have reached issue 300 of Cerebus the Aardvark if he kept going back to redraw page 1 of issue 1.

When you complete the story and are going to release a collected edition (whether print or digital), then you can think about redrawing pages to unify the art style. But complete the story first, and you won't do that by going backward and starting over again.

(By way of example, Jeff Smith and Osamu Tezuka redrew pages for the collected editions, but only after the strips had originally been published.)

>>83547461
Happened to me several times. I decided to put that project to the side for a bit and work on something else. My current comic is doing ok I guess but the constant stress really isn't doing me any favors.

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>>83547209
Welp, I have to go to work now, so I need to stop for the day. I'll be sure to continue, but I thought you deserved the first peak. Sorry for the shoddy picture, my scanner is terrible to scan pencils, especially my 2H

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Working on the thumbnail sketch of the next page

Anyone submitting anything to Premier Comics?

>>83540372
i think keep the original brightness but make it less dark with the shadows or whatever because it just feels like wasted effort on your part because no gets to see the art you worked hard on

>>83551312
i like the cut of your jib

>>83552076
What's a jib?

>>83551901
Who?

>>83551312
that teacher could use a good dicking

>>83549832
nnnneat. i like this crossover series. there's somethin fun about 'oh just any ol' body could stop by'
like the building-climbing bits in batman!

>>83551312
i think you're treading on the border between hilariously ludicrous and obnoxiously irritating. I hope this line of gaggery doesn't continue far beyond this page.

>>83552131
it's the little sail that goes in front of the other sails. the way you cut it defines how the ship will handle

>>83551312
You might want to tone down the /pol/ memery on this page too.

WIP OF MY COMIC.

Hope nobody notice me because i am a ghost.

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>>83554081

Fuck.... Too busy to in making a joke to notice the file.

so what was the point of these threads again? I see a lot of people posting artwork and barely getting comments

>>83554171

we cry about our failures and help each other get better at comics.

I am a idiot that can't speak English.

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>>83554171
Back when these threads first started they were for helping each other along in the creative process (art & writing alike) and for tip sharing. Networking too if you were into that.

Nowadays I don't know what's going on. Work on your art threads but for comics, I guess?

>>83554381
we're helping each other out but at this point we all knid of know what we're doing for the most part.. so it'll be like.. dustin needs help with color balance. maybe i need help with a joke. maybe dewd needs proofreading or reminding who's missing what body parts. or earthfield's having trouble feeling as confident as he used to. it's always nice having someone else to bounce that stuff off of.

>>83551312
you're not as funny as you think

>>83554510
I think he is, personally.
>>83551312
Keep it up man. You should write what you like. Your audience should be the people who like what you like to make, not the people who are happy with a product you don't want to make.

>>83554381
>>83554464

These threads are mostly just people shitting on each other, with some actual advice being fairly rare.

It think it got worse within the last 6 months or so, since it seems like /ic/ invaded, and shat on literally everyone in these threads, and posted their time-honored solution to every problem; "More Loomis."

>>83554566
well i know -i- like this kind of humor
it just has to be carefully balanced for optimum effect. like that teacher in Daria. what was her name, ms barch? barchmore?

>>83554595
funny, i thought i was the only one thinking that. i haven't noticed you chiming in when that shit comes up. it's been just me against everyone
in any case though good vibes solve that neatly.

>>83554631

I have, but I mostly lurk in these threads anyway. Besides, what can you do? Shitposters are going to shitpost.

Besides, /ic/ is kind of a hellhole anyway. I don't believe in sugar coating and coddling, but at the same time, I think criticism should be fair and constructive. Not "You suck. Go read an anatomy book."

>>83554595
In the last 6 months I think I've seen Loomis mentioned 2 or 3 times, and I'm in every thread all day, every day. I've even made well over a dozen of these things.

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Decided I'll make minor changes to this page and it'll go up this week instead. Getting sick happens at the worst of times and everything I draw looks awful right now.

>>83554858
and it absolutely must be accurate. that's the part that pisses me off. and if it's an opinion, someone else should be able to weigh in and say they disagree. I've seen so many artists actually get worse due to getting the wrong advice and following it
>>83554936
pay better attention I guess? It was mentioned thrice two or three threads ago alone.

>>83555276
Those eyes on her forehead gross me out so much I chose to believe they weren't really canon, they existed only for that one gag, on that one page... but here they are again, shattering my little headcanon

Anyway, this page 10/10

>>83555673
>I've seen so many artists actually get worse due to getting the wrong advice and following it

post an example

>>83555737
Eh well, no one is perfect. If it makes you feel better, they aren't perminant.

>>83555276
>All the eyes looking at the viewer
Creepy af

>>83553001
I remember those. I don't think these are on the same level, but I'm happy almost every author liked what I did with their characters. I hope you're not another exception.

>>83554936
I always get a mandatory Loomis reply with nothing else. Not that I consider I don't need to polish basic stuff, but I find it lacking when it's all the reply says.

>>83555673
Almost all of that discussion was people shitting on Loomis or discussing it in general, not posting the "more loomie" meme.

>>83555814
that wouldn't be very nice. they're not from these threads

>>83556030
>looking at the viewer
nyoh my god
>>83556042
oh i didnt mean that, i just meant they were being blindly told to loomis with no other words.. it happened a coupla times.

>>83556404
The eyes are judging you all for not rescuing stray cats.

>>83535358
I use a #3 pointed round Windsor Newton kolinsky sable brush for figures and flood fills.
Micron pens for machines and clean up of the brush lines.
If you are working traditional, drop 40 bucks on a light box. It gives you ability to draw in layers and trace shit that you destroyed the paper getting right.
If you are anything like I was when just getting started, everything you buy will feel weird and maybe a little pretensious, don't sweat it though, you'll grow into that shit.
Good luck.

>>83556490
i've rescued like a many of those! in fact i don't think i've ever paid for a cat. it's so much easier to pirate them.

>>83556537
I kid I kid. I do have 3 cats from the street myself though. I also do encourage rescuing strays and adopting from shelters. Mimi does too.

>>83556641
>thread activity: what would your comic do as a PSA?
Remember kids, it's okay to kill monsters, but don't expect them to just let you.

>>83535518

Necks and chins don't connect that way and the dude has forward head posture.

I dig the lighting, though. Really gives the breakup more impact.

>>83556537
>>83556641
kill all cats

>>83557226
Shoot. Too late to fix now, but I'll keep it in mind for the future.

>>83557356
You and me can't be friends

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>>83557436
There's nothing holding me back now then. Lock your doors for your cats' safety

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>tfw you want to post a WIP but you know it's either going to get shit on or get ignored

>>83558330
So, if you already know the result, what's keeping you from doing it? It's not like you're gonna be surprised.

>>83558404
don't listen to this anon. he's just trying to bait you into posting so he can bully you.

NEVER post your comic anywhere for anyone to see. You'll be safe.

>>83558330
Just post it, anon. Sometimes your work is better than you think. Even if your WIP ain't looking great, getting some feedback can give you new ideas on how to improve it.

>>83558590
that's just feelposter he doesn't have a comic he just likes to post feels in these threads

>>83558639
how do you know he doesn't have a comic?

>>83558772
shitposting like this requires dedication

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>tfw no comic

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>>83560471
>tfw I'm working on a nuzlocke
I'm gonna use it to work on my writing and comic skills with art. Knowing how to do the panel shit has always intimidated me.

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>>83560658
>nuzlocke

>>83560658
i fucking love drawing rocks.
what is 'a nuzlocke' ? just a pokemon comic? one that specifically features that one?

POST COMICS
H8 & R8
DO NOT MASTURB8

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>>83560742
>>83560746
It's pretty much this. They were popular a few years ago, and usually people would draw comics with them. But they sort of stopped, and all that happens now are let's plays or shit tumblr comics. So I was just do my own since I was too chicken shit to one back then.

>>83560907
i'm aware of the gamechallenge
>people would draw comics with them
... they would? why? what, just like highlights of your playthrough? who would be interested by that?

>>83536874
If you show 50% of all working cartoonists a brush pen, they will take it out of your hands and chuck it out of a window. 35% will just sit back and laugh in your face. The other 15% use brush pens.

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>>83560907
To elaborate more, I wanna work on character designs more. Giving them fun shapes to draw and such. Been studying a lot of Tyson Hesse's work with both Boxer Hockey and Diesel hoping to understand comics better. Will probably draw the entire cast of gym leaders and the elite 4. Was going to give them all a darker more bad guy look to them.

>>83561087
well i like how the kids look....

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Alright, here's a WIP of the next page!

>>83561955
you should work on consistency. its like the characters change shape every panel

>>83561955
hehe, meta. It's good when you notice you're doing something repeatedly. Mine tends to come from offpanel.
panel 4's dialogue is a mess, but i'm not sure how to fix it. exactly what is he trying to say? like 'i believe we had a deal, we shook on it' ? and you don't 'see someone for their services'
man, mad anna has some wild-ass eyebrows. also cute as fuck pajammers. I feel like the tail should be poking out of, and lifting, the buttflap. though traditionally buttflaps open downward, like a ramp, not upward like a garage door, which is what you've drawn since you put the buttons on the bottom.
something* one word
>>83562021
you kiddin? this is phenomenally consistent for him. at this point i think he's more consistent than ren and stimpy.

>>83562033
eh.. i don't get this one.

>>83562046
Is this false flagging, or just the idiot himself?

>>83562046
Well, he's saying that he wants annabeth to step aside so he can use angel for whatever the heck he wants.

>>83562164
the main issue i think is the use of the present perfect tense, along with the phrase "shaken amongst the two of us" along with "see her for her services"
i'm not exactly sure how to rephrase that, but.. let's rephrase that. anyone else wanna help? i'm goin to bed

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>>83562066
yea some of them dont have much of a punchline, just weird inner monologue shit

>>83561955
i honestly dont want you to take this the long way, because i want everyone in this thread to be successful, but how old are you?

>>83562741
18

>>83562920
can you post your drivers license?

>>83562940
lol what the fuck is wrong with you retard.

>>83561045
source?

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>>83547461
This is my third attempt.
My first try at it was in black & white, but I wasn't confident enough at Chiaroscuro so that it looked kinda like a coloring book. It was decent for a first try, and chapters were just 3-5 pages long.
The MAIN concept of a cursed frog knight and a fairy traveling around and meeting a bunch of folklore monsters was there, thoguh the first arc was about elves.
Second try only lasted 7 pages and was more of a remake of a previous chapter. But it was my second attempt at a colored comic and not bad for the results I got.
This one has been going on for 103 pages, and the closest I have to a satisfying comic. Even now, I WISH I had done some things differently had I known how much space I would have had for some events and arcs. Even the current arc changed A LOT from it's first inception. But I think what really pushed me was that I was 24 when I started this version, I didn't think I would have been able to try again in my late 20's.

>>83547660
Well, I DEFINITELLY want to put in the CG in the third story arc.
The Sisters would be nice but it'll be hard to make them fit in. They'd probably be in a Witches' Sabbath, or female Druids, or something...
Saha, Hel, and Fenir from KDN could fit into it once I bring back warewolves, but that'll probably take a LONG while and KDN will be finished by then, so I hope CF has another Fantasy-adventure comic going.

>>83562951
confirmed underage

>>83561045
depends what you mean by "cartoonist"? most storyboard artists, some of which ive become acquainted with on social media, mostly use bushpens and micron

Work on your comic, anon.

>>83564622
I can't, I'm being red pilled so hard right now

how do i cultivate an image of being an idiot while having people still take me seriously when i do make an intellectual point?

i perform best socially when people underestimate my ability. [which is by nothing special, but being underestimated makes up for it with surprise.]

>>83564622
shut up batman go stop people from getting crime'd

>>83565341
Be a woman.
People* will be fucking astounded when you actually do something right.

*The internet; primarily waifufags.

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>>83565914
>tfw you're a man

>>83563051
He actually was underage posting in these threads for a long time and late last year he made a big deal about turning 18 which is how we know his age.

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revision of the other cat print design. it wasn't the feeling i wanted to evoke, something like the cat is lightly mocking you. how's this?

>>83561045
It's not the tools but how you use them. If the results look good, no one would care what you used to get it.

>>83566426
Now I feel like the cat is trying to seduce me.

I should be doing comicshit but instead I'm doing waifushit. I realized I should do some character ref sheets for consistency.

Tell me what expressions to doodle.


>>83566426
It looks like Tubs.

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>>83566460
Do the expressions that define the character.
If it's a waifu, have her expressing the traits that are supposed to get the reader to like her. Cute, sexy, lewd, vulnerable, comical, stupid, whatever her attrract points are.

Stuff like pic related is pretty generic but it might give you some ideas.

>>83566442
is this OK?

>>83566460
fat blobs are cute

>>83562021
Sora is especially susceptible to this. The last page, or the page before that, is a prime example as Sora sat next to SD and changed size in every panel.

>>83566531
>aheago not one of the essential expressions

>>83566532
It's a bit minimalistic.

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>>83566531
Definitely, thank you anon!

>>83566562
Just for you, anon.

I call it "Regret.jpg."

>>83561087
pretty nice, i love your style. wonder why no one is commenting on it?

>>83567414
wtf is that expression in the 2nd row?

>>83567690
I got halfway through and forgot what ahaego is.

Don't expect many lewds from me.

>>83567414
This makes me hard.

>>83554595
Threads have been helpful for me than ever, honestly.
I think the reality is that a couple shitters caused posters to lose their patience and now people actually give meaningful criticism.

It's time to get REAL, /hyw/.

Which /hyw/ comics do you keep up with OUTSIDE the threads?

>>83565341
be anonymoose

you can do that really easily but make sure to have an identifiable typing pattern

>>83567414
The thumbnail made me think she had an eyepatch. Now I'm disappointed.

Who will be the first to craft me an exquisite eyepatch-wearing waifu?

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>tfw your total views for the week are in the single digits

>>83569768
I do have an eyepatch-wearing husbando, if that counts. I'll do his sheet tomorrow.

And he has a tail, so now you know where all of the lewd will be coming from.

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redid cover, will do one final revision based on suggestions after this, have a lot of comics not drawn yet

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>>83535358
No ink/pens, just digital.
I draw with a mouse.

Also, a wip for a background heavy panel, doin' a spoopy castle.

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>>83566655
i will try to come up with some ideas to spruce it up.

redid this other one, the letters will be a part of the smoke cloud, but before i put in the work i wanted to check your thoughts on the message itself

>>83570685
I mean it's minimalistic because you didn't actually post an image up in >>83566532.

>>83570733
cheeky friend

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>>83570670
gettin somewhere

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Black Peak #72
http://blackpeakcomic.com

>>83568512
Green Knight, Carrion Girls and Mimi.

>>83573384
Cool, thanks for using this thread to blatantly advertise your comic while contributing nothing to discussion or asking for help.

>>83573561
I've been asking for a discord invite to connect with dudes but haven't gotten a response, is it still open?

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continued progress. Could doggo have twigged something?

I'm unsure about the gradient/airbrush background on the close up. Would detail make more sense or leave as is?

>>83562987
no reason you cant do cameos to finished comics!
but yeah i'll keep doing more. but the next main cast is gonna have a vampire and no werewolves

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>>83569768
i seem to remember people being fond of Cheeky, but that might have been mostly her personality.
i based her on some random person i met one day who asked to be in my comic. Never saw her again

>>83573561
there's nothing wrong with that, the title of the thread is how's your webcomic.. so.. he should talk about how his comic is. tell us a little about what it's about. that kinda thing. doesn't necessarily need to be contributing or asking for help.

but it should be something more than just a link yeah

>>83573694
it's okay to make it airbrushed but make it more uneven and patchy so it looks like out of focus foliage. up the contrast a bit more too

boomp

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http://peaceoneers.tumblr.com/

Not quite dead yet.

And page not quite finished yet.

bewmp

dead thread

dead comics

>>83577317
Good to hear you guys are still around, man.

>>83573694
just a suggestion, try varying your colors you use to shade. for example use a darker blue-green on the grass instead of just dark green. looks nice though anon, keep on truckin

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>>83581724

>>83581747
lovely background shere
uh-oh.. rapesquatch?

>>83581760
Blemmyes

>>83582030
I'm not hearing blemmno
haha those guys are crazy weird. that'll be neat

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Finished this page!

Took longer than usual and the last few pages will be doing that to me, mainly because I'm trying super hard to make these look as nice as possible!

>>83582972
Now try working more than a day.

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Mine is a story about the globalists and their shitty agenda.

>>83583565
it's about time

>>83582972
it looks like you dont put any effort into your lines, you just draw and say "close enough"
i suggest you visit /ic/ every now and then. they can be assholes but they know their shit

>>83584019
I think we decided it was ADD and bad motor skills. He's gettin better though!
this guy's right though dewd, if you have any energy left over at the end of the lineart stage of a page, it's a good idea to redo some of the lines. 7th panel's hand, 4th panel's nose maybe, those are decent candidates. still, I think at this point you've solidly moved past the 'this is just ugly' phase. looka dem faces. they all have the eyes the right size and shape and everything.

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Pencils.
Feedback and suggestions are always welcome.

>>83584305
>second panel
BANE?

>>83584641
Not intentionally.

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>>83547461
Boils down to this. See /ic/ as well.

>>83584970
ooh i bet this fellow isnt a hypocrite at all

>Hiveworks
What is this? Some kinda collab or something?

>>83585851
A way to gain exposure, money, help with your website, and connections. It's very exclusive AKA you have to wow them with your pitch or you know a guy on the inside and he hooks you up.

So what're you listening to while you work, /hyw/? I've had these on loop for the past two hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j96Xgn2G-XQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_o_C4lUB2g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_leqmKrhaP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B6E0mijV5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxHnRfhDmrk

>>83586832
Berserker Beginnings
By
Fred SaberHagan

>>83581724
>>83581747
I think your work looks a lot stronger without the clean up lines. They tend to flatten the image and remove the sense of volume that the sketchy layers give on their own. It's such a huge difference that I thought the first page was drawn by a different artist before I hit the girl on the second page. It's an incredible difference - I never noticed how strong your painting was until I saw it unobscured.

Your raw style is really painterly and nearly naturalistic, which is why I think the linework is jarring and brings down the quality of the work so much once applied. Maybe you feel inclined to add it because comics are typically "cartoony", but there are lots of painterly comics out there that look great and don't utilize a linework layer, just paint (Lackadaisy Cats comes to mind, but there certainly are others...) in case you felt that not applying linework would somehow imply laziness on your part - I think it would allow your strengths to come to the forefront.

>>83586832
i'm watching reruns of Doc Mock's Movie Mausoleum
it's actually not the best thing to have on while drawing, i'm not making great progress

>>83587087
i kind of agree with this, plus it fits the background better
and anyway if you're going to do this much work on the coloring, why go back and undo it?
that said, i'm pretty sure i've seen this artist's WIPs before and this is not how he colored back then

Would it be autistic to compile a soundtrack for my comic by linking to songs on Youtube in certain chapters? Because I'm at war with this idea

>>83588053
shit we all used to do that back in the old days
except there weren't no youtube back then so we just added the title and artist of a song in the .txt document at the appropriate places
because we were writing in text, see, because images were costly back then, and the dithering.. my god, the dithering.

>>83585851
Some faggots who can't appreciate a good rape joke.

>>83588852
this kind of guy seems OK with it, that should be all the answer you need

>>83587123
>>83587087
Most of my stuff isn't set in an outdoor setting where not having lines is beneficial. I do it that way because I like it.

>>83588053
I was just wondering the same thing.

>>83589254
Also its a flashback so I did it for tone.

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RIP half-inside-out t-shirt. you made no sense, were hard to work into werewolf transformations, and i straight up ripped you off from Ink Dolls
hey what do you guys think of post-ending panels like this? I do them once in a rare while, but I feel like they help preserve the timing of the punchline while still working more seinfeldian goodness in

>>83589654
looks like you just wanted to try something for the sake of it. my man perhaps you should go back to voice acting and start a dubbing youtube channel

>>83589863
it's just a WIP dude, ignore the sketches right now, that's just to get the heights in. it's a habit this general has gotten me in so i don't just improvise character placements. actually saves time in the long run. now i understand why TV does the same thing, with stand-ins. just blocking out the shots to make sure they work
i was just asking for the sake of the joke pacing.

>fans have never asked for a webcomic soundtrack

Feels bad man

>>83590419
we used to discuss that in here on the regular.
my old theme song was World 4 - Chai World from Super Mario Land. not sure if it's different now.

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>>83590419
Pretty sure it has cropped up in earlier threads.
The Sisters has, for me, always had a Polaris, Semisonic, classic R.E.M., Stone Temple Pilot vibe going on for much of the core cast, with Amboy Dukes, Redbone, Poppy Family stuff when it comes down to the bad guys. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsRRHz5qVlg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzqqEaQ9-Z8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf6vCjtaV1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msWi0c4tHV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCMy6kq5ZA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGhCVKsLY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhCwLD6-UdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BvL-i--8Ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jApge5aA5PY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCR3GSXGFc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQdYokbp4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHfB63ln1Ig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLYO9Flbf14

Like it helps on some level that the two casts as they are happen to be from different time periods. The occult/cult side of it is supposed to hit on a Satanic Panic, turtlenecks and kool-aid, Manson Family 60s/70s; whereas the girls and company are supposed to feel like they're sort of a downbeat but uplifting group that might be scrappy enough to get through it all.

Mostly just felt like posting some sweet tunes. This week's update to the Sisters should be fun. Dan and Eddy meet. And Beatrice introduces a Necromancer.

>>83562987
>Cameo
Y'know, I'll see if we can toss something Green Knight's way in terms of a cameo. We might have an Anime Convention issue this next arc (Chel's idea for a summer plan). You do good work and I genuinely dig your stuff. I hope your hiatus goes well, I need to catch up.

>>83555276
Still love the last panel.

>>83547461
Struggle through it, or get help, or tell your audience and ask them what they might like to see how it can get better. Or just take a break and work on something that personally makes you happy.

>>83591068
>Polaris
not surprising in the slightest. i've been binging Pete & Pete lately. Between the gingers and the bizarreness, it feels like a significantly happier companion piece to The Sisters.

>>83591068
a cameo of fiction? Those are the best!

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hey fellas. this isn't a webcomic, but it is where I upload my scripts and general writing. if anyone wants to draw a comic, feel free. the tiles with comic covers are comic scripts. the tiles with book covers are writing only:

rattacusfattacus.WhyIXist(that's wix).com/2064qwerty10

>inb4 wix is for losers (i am a loser)

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>>83554510
You're right....
I'M FUNNIER

>>83590419
I've been listening to Moonsorrow's Suden Uni consistently while writing/thumbnailing, so I guess it would be the soundtrack for mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfzaJTFmfsE

>>83591106
I grew up on Pete & Pete, so it was sort of a big inspiration for like the "ideal" tone if things were ever in the right. Jam's storylines are meant to strive for hitting that sort of weird summer vacation melancholy fun (or at least they will, come this arc).

Such a solid show, bred into my a love of the eerie and the urban legend.

>>83583365
Is it wrong or a bad sign to finish a page in under a day? If I put myself to it, I can finish 2 pages. Would you advise to go slower or is it all personal?

>>83591733
god i love it when i'm in tune with shit. i feel like i never used to be.

>>83591823
what's a day? 2 hours? 12?

>>83591872
8-12 hours of work.

>>83583565
i want to read about globalists and their shitty agenda. for far too long have i been pulling the wrong wool over my eyes!

>>83591894
that sounds right to me man

>>83577317
shit that artworks good

>>83591930
gotta start making yer glasses outta glass, man. wool's a terrible material for it.

>>83591823
If by personal you mean he rushes through pages like he's late for a date, yes. It's personal.

>>83592613
>late for a date
more like racing against boredom. I remember what that was like, having to hurry before i lost interest.

>>83591068
I guess I feel like a good soundtrack should have the same basic soul that the comic has. Like a person could be listening to it, and without having the comic in front of them they'd be thinking about it. Of course some should be out of left field and not apply at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyrfzzUTzFk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HInrAQsS7HQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O-NlanHStM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BZMqajycaE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl9ASiIJ5_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZKcmBJTVKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIpNzHf3LDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtS0rwQK_pI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHgi1_tYsKc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyd9OcI37AY

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>>83583565
>>83591930
M-my story is about building a free egalitarian city-state for everybody to live in happily and general regicide with an overtly altruistic tone.

Genuine spoilers for anybody who is likely to remember this post and/or care in the long run:
It has a bad end.

>>83593693
I also want to read about attempts at egalitarian societies. Is hierarchy intrinsically evil? Tolstoy says yes, Hobbes says no! Stravinsky was a monarchist so that makes another option sweet also.

>>83593693
no one will ever remember nor care you stuttering fuck

>>83594032
i care

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finally finished page 4
my shading is dog shit but at least I got my rocks

I can post the first couple pages too if anyone wants to see what I've got so far

>>83554595
>These threads are mostly just people shitting on each other, with some actual advice being fairly rare.

I feel that if you actually come asking for specific help, people here will be be more than willing to comment. At least I know I've gotten a ton of help from people here.

>>83574235
I can work with that. ATM I am planning to have Vampires and Warewolves show up in the... 5th story arc, unfortunatelly... I know, long wait, though it shouldn't be TOO long before a group of fairies shows up again, so I think it'd be possible to have Robin in the BG.

>>83589368
I think it made for a REAL nice contrast between flashback and "present time" Those BG's actually look great, I wish I could paint that well.

>>83591068
>I hope your hiatus goes well,

I mean, I have a large enough buffer I don't THINK the hiatus will be too long. I won't be working on my comic for a month or two after the selkie chapter, but it'll still be updating on the site.

>>83594303
the rocks, at least, are great!
this is reminding me of one of those flash games like 'learn to fly' kinda.

>>83594328
funny how she's a half-fairy but because she's VISIBLE and not just a glowy ball with wings, and because the fullblooded fairy left the cast, she's the token fairy now. Represent your mom's peeps, Robin!
Though proper fairies in my mythos actually do have bodies, separating them from pixies which actually ARE glowy balls even when viewed close up.. what am I talking about now?
I wish I had her transform more. It's funny and shit. but it's also hard to follow without devoting extra panels to it. if I ever make a cartoon someday it's going to be just nonstop funny transformations, even for no reason, just in the backgrounds.

>setting in not america during an amalgam of different time periods, like during the civil war but with a medieval flare
>have to deal with slavery being a huge point in my comic

shit

>>83594791
at least you don't have to draw rocks every panel for eternity

>Getting a free plug from a popular blog catering directly to the fandom your webcomic caters to
>Shit tons of new readers and getting a lot of people excited, talking about how they think your comic looks cool

it has been four hours and i can't sleep, only desperately try to assemble another page that will be better as the frontpage intro and get really happy.

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>>83582972
damn dewd i think im getting used to your drawing this is actually really nice

the propotions and consistency of your characters is shit but the color somehow makes itt look nice

in other words it is like a super nicely polished piece of shit

>>83594975
paneling is definitely something I'm having trouble with, I kind of just want to have a 1 panel page like ava's demon.

also I very well might draw rocks in every panel, it's pretty rocky by the coast and the main PoV character is by the sea. even in the woods there are plenty of rocks.

>>83595158
I really like that format, thats what I did for my first comic and its way chill. I'm just trying panels n pages now to mix it up cause I've never really done it before

>>83594791
I don't think people will mind.
If you're really bothered by it, weren't there a bunch of places in the US where slavery was never legalized in the first place? If you want to avoid the topic, it would be perfectly reasonable to have the story take place somewhere with no slaves around (unless it's set on a cotton farm or something).

>>83595249
I wanted to have one of the main pov characters be a slave doing logging and the like, he end up finding out he's the bastard son of the slave-owner and after his father and stepbrother(who's white) get offed by goatmen he sets off on his own as a kind of runaway.

If I wanted to avoid the issue altogether I could have the time period be set earlier, but since it's a loose basis on the world as it was, I could just axe it altogether in favor of solely having indentured servitude or something. I think that's a cop-out though. I just need to work on it, because it's pretty ingrained in the setting I think. I'll also be having vikings up north in vinland, who'll have slaves of all kinds.

I'm afraid I want to do too much with the comic.

>>83594328
To specify, when I say "I won't be working on the comic", I mean the pages directly. I'm taking a break from pages precicelly to improve.

>>83594791
>I wish I had her transform more.

Man, I think i've had Gwanwyn transform in EVERY chapter since her introduction, be it intentional or not. She' actually quite fun to draw because of that.

>>83594791
The of people who actually get offended by someone knowing history is actually very tiny, You're worrying over nothing.

>>83595352
Yeah, you're gonna have to deal with slavery if your want a slave main character.
Might be neat to explore the differences between slavery practices of the various places. A logging slave in the northern states would have a really different experience to a cotton pickin' slave in the south to a Vinlandian thrall in Newfoundland.

>>83595535
that's what I'm hoping to show. since it's medieval I want a PoV character from the north to be invited to an affluent southern gentleman's castle, where there are a shit ton of slaves picking cotton and then there's a dispute between the two which leaves the northern dude having to face the rich guy in a duel with sharp rapiers.

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>when your mom takes away your tablet and you can't inform your viewers that there won't be updates for a while because the reason is embarrassing

>>83595716
did she catch you drawing porn or what?

>>83595695
That's an interesting premise.
What do you mean by medieval, exactly? Rapiers seem like they'd be more of a mid-to-late renaissance thing.
Were you intending to have various cultures be at different time periods, with the viking types still being dark age viking types, or would they be updated to something like the later Scandinavian kingdoms?

>>83595716
Just say your stylus broke or something, or don't give a reason.

>>83595352
You know, it sounds liek you're doing more or less the same thing I do with my world (I mean having cultures which historically would have never met one another either beceause of geography, or them existing in different periods, etc...), which I totally dig.

Like you said, you could replace slavery with "servitude", but I agree that's a cop-out.

>>83595905
you're right in that it's going to be a slew of different time periods and technologies, the renaissance is a pretty big stretch of time, I was thinking the technology around would be around 15th century, which was still middle ages/early renaissance for most places. about vinland, I want the place to be rather disjointed from it's motherland, and as such it would be darker and more savage, even more so because they'd been fighting tooth and nail with natives just for survival, but that'd be the case most anywhere.

I want there to be plenty of swordfights with longswords and smallswords and rapiers, and because of the colonizing parties not having more advanced weaponry, the fights between natives becoming a lot less one sided.

>>83596036
I really just like imagining america with castles.

>>83595716
Anon... you need to be 18 to enter this site.

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>>83595716
You finally got me, feelanon.

>>83596080
So very late medieval, gotcha. I always think "crusades era" when people say medieval.
The situation for the Vinlanders sounds a lot like the conditions you'd have found in Iceland and Greenland around the time - it might be worth digging into.

>America with castles
So, would the natives have adopted the idea of castles as well? That'd be an interesting twist.

>>83596328
if anything they'd be rudimentary stone forts, but that's pretty much what a castle is anyway, they'd just be less refined. that's a good idea though.

>>83596382
What about other European military ideas?
Might be neat to see what various tribes and nations would do with regular exposure to stuff like heavy cavalry and plate armor.

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One of the writers who worked on king of the hill is sitting next to you in a maid cafe. You notice that he's crossing out a considerable amount of writing on his little notepad. You also notice that the writer appears to be periodically checking his watch, and you assume it's because of a near-future deadline. The maid has delivered your meal to the table: only ten minutes remain. /co/, what do you say to this writer?

>>83596691
hang in there champ

>>83595716
How many Good Boy Points do you need to trade in to get it back? 50? 100?

This is important.

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>>83596382
Well, a lot of Fantasy architechture is "Like this real life place, bit bigger and cooler".

To my knowledge you won't find a large deal of stone structures from North American cultures, by what little tere is could be made more intense. Just so that you're not just taking a West-European castle and putting it in North America.

>>83596479
I would imagine they'd adapt with trade and whatnot, eventually giving European armor their own American spin.

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>>83597101
there are a lot of stone cairns, maybe the odd root cellar but nothing huge.

even though this came from mexico, I'm thinking maybe something like this, maybe even put it on top of a big ol' mound.

>>83596479
>Might be neat to see what various tribes and nations would do with regular exposure to stuff like heavy cavalry and plate armor
After Europeans had made contact with Japan, European armor becamevery much in demand in Japan due to its great superiority over Japanese armor, so the people in Japan who could afford European armor would get it.

What kind of patreon tiers do you think are acceptable/best for webcomic creators?
I feel like a certain degree of world-building and WIP stuff should be shared openly, especially as a way of advertising your comic and connecting with your audience. So how do you decide what becomes paid-access-only?

What do you guys think of making a $30+ tier a subscription for a monthly physical issue? (ignoring the majority of webcomic creators who are shit at keeping schedule.)

>>83598168
Do you actually produce enough content to make a new book every month? If not that's a bad idea. I'd say it's not a good idea anyway but I guess that'd kind of personal.

>>83597652
That's cool. Got something to read about it? By the time the Portuguese arrived in Japan in the late 1500s, there were firearms already so I always imagined plate armor was no longer a thing.

>>83568512
Sisters and Carrion Girls.

>>83598370
AFaIk, they had firearms but VERY "primitive" compared to European's; basically cumbersome portable canons rather than arquebuses

>>83584305
I think I might've seen you on /ic/, my friend. I think I'll stay there a long time before I show up my stuff here again.

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>>83590419
Thank god. The playlist I made is all over the place.

Current WIP. Not sold on the colouring yet. Maybe I'll like it more once it's finished. Thoughts?

>>83599143
The Portuguese brought firearms in Japan.

>>83599597
ditch the manga eyes in those 2 panels

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>>83599752
He always had those eyes, and while this is a 3 months old page, and he changed on the current ones ready to colour, he was always like this. minus the eyebags.

Text will explain he couldn't sleep the night before.

From last thread, this was his old and current design, and the eyes are pretty much the same.

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>>83598370
Plate armor was a thing for a very long time.
While it wasn't practical to make an entire suit of bullet proof armor (way too heavy to wear for an extended engagement), breastplates and helmets made thick enough to withstand arquebus and musket rounds at range were common, especially for officers or cavalry.
Pic related is 16th century, I believe. Note the bullet indentations on the cuirass.

IIRC the term for Japanese armor incorporating western stylings was "nanban-dou".

>>83599597
get rid of that weird blind cord/cloth thing. That's cool and all if you have something like that in real life, but I think most people don't. I know I don't. The point is that it took me too long to figure out he wasn't doing something with toilet paper at his window.

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>>83600137
Oh, you mean the roller shutter cord? Once coloured is supposed to be more obvious what it is, but I hear you. I'm not sure I can re-draw it on top of it, though, may need to make the who panel again.

Now that I look at the example, I failed to make the bottom part of the cord to connect to the wall, silly me. Those that are like strings don't do it, so I made a stupid hybrid that fails to be both. That I can fix, I think.

Without you commenting on it, I probably would have noticed too late, thanks.

>>83600343
*Wouldn't* have noticed.

>>83600343
Not the guy you responded to, but IMHO in the panels the cord looks a bit wide and floppy. These things are kinda rigid and kept taut. As you wrote in your post, the fact it's not secured to the wall contributes to it looking more like some weird decoration.

>>83600074
Armor that was at least partially resistant to pistols rounds and/or long range hits, like buff coats, was also popular in the era of pike and shot.

Every motherfucker and his uncle had one in the English Civil War, pretty much, for instance, and the pikemen generally had some form of munition plate on top of that. Between the two it wouldn't necessary stop a ball, but it would probably have helped, some. The main idea was stopping you from getting hurt in hand to hand combat of course, and the combination was pretty successful at that, certainly for the price. It's doubtful that the average soldier ever had any better protection really.

The cavalry (so like the guys who would have worn that Samurai harnass) would have also potentially had "proofed" plate as you say, and on top of a buff coat, so they would have been virtually impossible to hurt with much of anything, certainly not hand weapons except through BIG amounts of blunt trauma, or a good, square hit with a biggish gun. (Again, mostly the blunt trauma and deformation, not penetration.)

Getting shot in the face or arms, well, what are you gonna do?

At least the coat would help some if they got shot in the arms if it had arms.

Getting shot in the face, you can't really help that.

>>83600513
I can fix that. Thanks a lot.

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So anyway how's this panel layout strike ya.

>>83600074
That's really cool. I had never read about it.

>>83598370
I actually learned about it through a sport called Historic Medieval Battles, which is basically full contact no holds barred fighting in medieval armor with weapons, based off Russian LARPing from the 1990s, which is a very close approximation of the realities of hand to hand infantry combat in the old days.. In one world tournament, while watching a team from Japan compete in a 10-on-10 battle, I saw firsthand how useless the light Japanese armor was when a guy all samurai-ed up got absolutely rekt while his teammates clad in heavier European armor lasted a lot longer.

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>>83595716
I thought you HAD NO VIEWERS? checkmate, feelsboy

>>83602010
>implying there's only one feels poster

>>83535152
has anyone here submitted a comic to image?
Or published a comic.
How many times did you get shot down?
>JUst thought someone here might have

Does anyone have some good tips for fleshing out your characters? Or expanding scenes you've written for your story? I've just been writing random bits of dialogue for some of my characters and chapter ideas. But Maybe I'm having trouble cause I don't really have a goal to work towards. I just want to write fun scenes with my characters and scenarios that involve them. So how important is it to have an ending or a goal to your story?

>>83600819
This is getting trippy.

>>83603046
Also interested in this. Bumping it with a (you), and adding something more on my own. Just how "dark" (characters doing reprehensible things, deaths, etc...) can you get with a story, and still have moments of slice of life/comedy without the whole thing being too jarring or incoherent?