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Dumbing of Age

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Daily reminder that we're supposed to like Carla and his disproportionate retribution on Mary.
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>>83239231
The days of "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me" are done. It todays world, thanks to the internet making everyone introverts, saying mean things is tantamount to punching someone in the face then slapping their mom.
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>>83239231
I like Mary. How do I find just the ones where she's involved?
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If I hadn't seen the shit his commenters say I would wonder how he hasn't realised that Carla isn't the hero of this story arc.
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>>83239231
Godammit, that Rube Goldberg device doesn't even make any sense. For fuck's sake.
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>>83239485
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>>83239680
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Someone post tomorrow's strip.
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>>83239641
bowling ball will fall on the stack of books (which will probably collapse irl but let's pretend it will not)
bowling ball "bounces" on the trampoline, hitting the swatter and supposedly activating the hair dryer
the ballong will fly towards right

but then I don't know what will happens next, the device is truly fucked up, like his maker
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>>83239231
>yfw this explodes on Carla because she's a shit engineer
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http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/145043742627/latwpiat-itswalky-maritzac-itswalky-i

Engage maximum butthurt reactors
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>>83239231
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS COMIC ABOUT? WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE BAD GUY? IS THERE ANY CHANCE OF A SYNOPSIS
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>>83239735
The bowling ball being released makes no sense. It looks like pulling the door open pulled the thing holding it up away. But looking at it, there's really no way it could've ever held it up. The weight is way to far away from that level, essentially, that lever looks none to solid. I think the lever might even be pulley, which makes it even worse.
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>>83240745

A bunch of people start college and fuck each other and argue about religion and stuff.
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>>83240751
The balloon will be blown onto the ring stand(?) and popped, then something will roll down the incline?
End result looks like it'll be some sort of flame thing, maybe spelling "bitch" or something.
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>>83239231

What is that contraption even meant to do?
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Man if Carla put that much effort into studying she'd have graduated already
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>>83239231
Why is that thing whistling the main bit of the 1812 overture next to a terrible abortion of a rube goldberg machine?
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>>83240806
>>83240368
If the next 3 comics were Mary and Carla staring at that trap fail before Carla stomps off, it would be the funniest thing that Willis ever done.
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>>83240405
Hahaha, Willis sure does hate people asking questions or in anyway critique his work. Every time I've gotten banned was because I said Willy didn't know what he was talking about. Like how Amber could stab someone in police custody and receive no punishment was ludicrous.
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>>83240982
You know, Mary lives with Roz.
What if Roz opened the door?

Also it's still funny to me how Roz was supposed to be "the evil one" back in Shortpacked, because he was a slut that looks like an old lady.
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>The trap is somehow supposed to be this cutesy prank
>it ends up killing Mary dead
>the carla goes to prison for three decades
male prison
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>>83241208

YES
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where's patreanon?
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>>83239231
Hey look, the trannyman is physically harassing a woman in her home again
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>>83239231
daily reminder that trannies are the alpha males of the social justice social hierarchy and thus females are expected to submit to them at all times
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>>83239687
post movies you didn't expect to make you cry, but it did
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>>83239415
>It todays world, thanks to the internet making everyone introverts, saying mean things is tantamount to punching someone in the face then slapping their mom.

while actual acts of violence, per this comic, are totally okay
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>>83241665

He's TAKING HIS POWER BACK from the short, weak, basically helpless female
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>>83241208
you know what'd be great, would be if the dorm caught on fire, and mary got killed because carla had trapped her in her room
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>>83239231
>Book making a ramp under the bowling ball is balanced on one corner instead of a side.
>Using a book instead of just crafting a wedge like so many other parts.
>Still using 1812 overture, and not Powerhouse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDqR4fqIWE

>>83241665
Analysis of not the comic at all actually. Mary may be bigoted, but she wasn't actually impinging on Carla's right to do anything, so this is not analogous or similar at all. Unless Cerberus really thinks that trying to use the washroom of the gender you identify as is similar to breaking the rules by skating near someone's room and being a dick when they ask you to go anywhere else.
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>>83241834
I'm still holding out for my waco style ending
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This is the end lads
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>>83242791

Powerhouse is for Tom and Jerry faggits
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>>83239231
>his
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>>83241665
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>>83239415

We actually just live in a world where reputation matters more than bodily integrity. Getting hit by a bus could put me in a wheelchair but if enough people call me a pedophile on twitter I might lose my job and be out on the street.

On topic, I think the machine is either going to light off those five sparklers...sprinklers...maybe menorahs. or it's going to slap Mary in the face with a flyswatter.
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>>83239231
WHAT'S IN THE BOX!?
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Just shut the door again, Mary
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>>83239231
What Would Have Actually Been Reasonably Clever
>Carla continues to do weird things that lead Mary to suspect some sort of complicated revenge scheme.
>Mary reports him and Ruth to the dorm administrators.
>Admins show up to find Carla doing nothing and Ruth having finally sobered up.
>Mary has a wild outburst and the admins have her moved to another dorm or given a warning or something.
>That was the plan all along.


Instead What Will Actually Happen
>Carla The Just and Righteous Tranny deploys a complicated revenge scheme involving physically abusing Mary The Evil Bigot
>Mary The Vile Homophobe is defeated and traumatized by The Cunning and Amazing Carla's plan, so much so that she now refuses to even come out of her room.
>Carla The Very Strong Brave resumes skating in the halls.
>Who needs conflict mediation or a mutual respect for ones rights and privacy when THE POWER OF VIOLENCE can solve everything?
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>>83239415
>>83241673
>>83243306

It's a simple case of figuring out how many micro-aggressions to endure before a person can cash them in for a macro-aggression.

The exchange rate can fluctuate, so knowing how many rude comments and drawings equate to hitting someone with a chair or summoning a SWAT team is important.
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>>83243306
This - thanks to the SJW Internet Police, you can now lose your job and reputation over a vaguely politically incorrect tweet or facebook post.
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>>83240405
So once again this loops back to Willis, His Life Experience, and of course His Mom.

If any LBGT readers find comfort in his works, it's a nice bonus, but it's ultimately all about Willis dealing with his religious suburban angst.
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>>83243605
Mary would be invincible if she just took video of all the shit on that happened on that floor with her phone.
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Asma from Administration should drop the hammer on all these clowns, if she wasn't just an incidental background character.
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>>83243891
Is it weird that I assume now when an artist draws a women in a hijab that that charter is gay? It just seems like a thing SJW artists do now to make their comic diverse.
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>>83243891
Ironically, if she *is* a devout Muslim, she'd probably be even less accepting of Carla than Mary is.

Of course... Willis would never portray a member of The Religion of Peace in such a manner.
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>>83239231
So the tranny is going to get Mary back by showing her that she was right about the tranny being a complete shit and harassing her?

Unless this is the most complicated penis cutting machine I've ever seen, this is just silly.
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>>83243736
>it's ultimately all about Willis dealing with his religious suburban angst.
So just like every comic he's ever written.
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>>83244068
Or for bonus irony, Carla can complain to Asma that she doesn't know what it's like for being So Oppressed for just being who she is. And then Asma just looks at her.
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>>83239231
mary and carla should fugg
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but can one not just buy and replace roller skate wheels?
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As someone who used to read this comic, I think I've since reached my breaking point. While it is hard to completely ignore it, I know feel stressed out EVERY time I see it nowadays.
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>>83240405
Definitely ignore the fact that she went through an encounter with the police without them ever requiring her to present ID or following up on her not having any.
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>>83244749

Shit that's a really good point. Anyone have a tumblr? Should point that out.
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>>83244276
We've been saying that for months.
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>>83244890
What is this face supposed to convey?
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>>83239231
Why did Toedad bring a gun to school? At this point I'm really over thinking it.

Why didn't he call the police when she ran away.

After finding out where she ran away to, why was his first thought to bring a gun. Why not talk to the school "hey my daughter ran away, I think she is stay illegally at your school." You can replay that scene, he still could have taken Becky away. The gun is literally the only reason he us going to jail. Dina attacked him, amazi-girl jumped on his car and caused the accident.
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>>83244749
>police
are either actively evil or just apathetic to marginalized people's problems. haven't you been following the protests? LGBT lives matter!
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>>83245727
Because a lot of Willis's characters are written on the same level as "the opposition" in political cartoons.
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>>83245313
Sexual satisfaction.
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>>83245313
That Kilroy was there.
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>>83245727
It would've been way smarter to just limit Becky's options to compel her to try and go home, but she's 18 so the police couldn't force her to go with Ross.
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>>83245843
Is this how liberals see gun owners?
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>>83245916
as a liberal gun owner, yes
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>>83245945
But teaching your kids about the danger of guns and how to safely use them is perhaps the most responsible thing any gun owner can do.
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>>83245988

Anon please, kids can't be trusted to learn anything important until they're at least 26, they need to be sheltered from the world as much as possible.
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>>83245843
>>83245916
It's how that cartoonist saw an actual news story. At the named gun range. The cake even has 9 candles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Charles_Vacca
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>>83244020
Being that it's Willis, Asma may be gay, regardless of her hijab.
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>>83245916
That really happened

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/02/girl-who-accidentally-shot-her-instructor-with-an-uzi-said-the-gun-was-too-much-for-her/
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>>83246065
Horsey is still total shit at presenting argument tho
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>>83246065
>>83246126

its his choice to make it a retarded redneck caricature though
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>>83245988
Clearly they weren't responsible, in this case. An Uzi is possibly the least appropriate gun to use for the purpose of instructing a child.
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>>83246103
Too much gay, kinda wish one of the characters was into bondage. Keeping it a secret, hiding her rope, ect.
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>>83246137
How is that shit?
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>>83245988
>teaching a kid how to use a gun is responsible
this thing is for sport and for adults only.
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>>83246178
Agreed. I thought this was a general complaint about teaching kids about guns and not referencing a specific incident.
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>>83246199
Comparing illegal immigrants to Superman is totally shitty and hacky and horrible for a political argument.
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>>83246206
What thing? Guns? If you have a gun in your house then you need to teach your children about the danger and proper use of guns. You shouldn't let your kids learn about guns from action movies.
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>>83246248
But Clark was an illegal immigrant.
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>>83246199
There's a difference between someone illegally entering the country, and a baby crash landing to Earth.
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>>83239641
It's not supposed to make sense, it's supposed to make SCIENCE!.
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>>83246269
I think your father should have learned more about condoms in sex ed, you fucking nigger.
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>>83246293
He is one fictional example of one
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>>83246302
Not just any science. TRANNY SCIENCE!
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>>83246348
What's your point?
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>>83246248
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>>83246322
Okay, now you are just falseflagging.
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>>83245843
>>83245916
>>83245988
It's funny, I grew up in a household littered with guns, and I had enough sense to not be a fucking retard about them.
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>>83246421
Shouldn't Kryptonians be ginger since they don't tan and therefore have no use of melanin?
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>>83246367
What's the difference between normal SCIENCE and TRANNY SCIENCE?
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>>83246454
Why is that funny though?
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>>83246403
>people who don't believe in open boarders are dumb because of a fake superhero
Explain to me how this is not retarded
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>>83246457
TRANNY SCIENCE isn't grounded in reality, and if you dare speak against it, you're branded as a heretic by the High Tranny Council.
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>>83246293
But not a Muslim one.
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>>83246456
When has superman ever been Ginger? Anyways in case it makes a difference his dad was Zod, so that's why he looks different. Also raise by illegal aliens.
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>>83246571
They have no use of melanin. They should be downright albino.

Or do they only tan under lower energy red sunlight? Holy shit Superman's powers don't make sense.
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>>83242791
tchaikovsky no!
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>>83245988
>>83246454
But a fair amount of gun owners are retards. I don't want to be shot by some fat asshole's toddler.
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>>83246810
https://youtu.be/bZ9-PFes3mM
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>>83241597
I know, I'm sad that movie exists too.
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>>83246855
A fair amount of everyone are retards. The fact that one retarded screwed up an otherwise responsible act doesn't make the responsible act bad.
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>>83246056
I know you're being sarcastic, but I agree somewhat on the part that kids can't be trusted to learn things. I'm not saying shelter them from the whole fucking world, but I know kids and kids are very selective in what they will actually bother remembering. And if there is one thing I've learned working with kids is they always assume they know more than they do.
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>>83247211
This - I mean fucking Christ how many thousands of innocent people every year get killed by drunk drivers or dumb teens texting while driving?

Do we blame cars or portray car owners as retards? Of course not.
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>>83247351
>>83247211
Steps need to be taken to limit the amount of drunk assholes on the road just as steps need to be taken to limiting a retard's ability to procure a firearm. A truly responsible gun owner would not be burdened by increased safety measures.
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>>83246293
no, because of the Kryptonian Birthing Matrix. He actually was born on American Soil, and they really just sent a gene-embryo to earth.

I don't know if that is canon anymore or not. But it's one of Byrne's terrible ideas.
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>>83247428
What restrictions are you asking for?
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>>83247428
>A truly responsible gun owner would not be burdened by increased safety measures.
>If you haven't committed a crime you have no reason to oppose being searched or questioned or spied on.

Some people acting irresponsibly is no excuse to punish everyone acting responsibly.
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>>83245988
or perhaps, teach them how dangerous guns are without actually letting them touching it. it's much more responsible.

>>83246454
Good for you. In case some people are that retarded, it's better not to have those guns at all, as it's the responsible thing to do.
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>>83247351
>Do we blame cars or portray car owners as retards? Of course not.

You kidding? You think, "Everyone in XYZ drives like shit" isn't a thing?
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>>83247519
I honestly don't know. Most proposed legislature seems either too extreme or too lax. The debate has no foreseeable conclusion. And once it's exhausted, idiots will just find other ways of killing themselves.
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Jesus fucking christ. I'm pretty sure at this point Mary could legit get Carla kicked out by saying "help, my dorm mate is a dangerously unstable lunatic who is planning to physically harm to me"
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>>83247519
not that guy, but how about the same restrictions on a car?
so, 16, you need a basic written test to prove you aren't a moron, and mandatory insurance, so if you do shoot someone or something you shouldn't have, it's paid for?
and trade for this is full legal open carry, just like you are allowed to have your car in public.
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>>83247622
I don't like minivans. I think they always drive too slowly, and take forever to get going at a green light, but I'm not calling for the ban of all minivan owners.
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>>83247211
>otherwise responsible act
>letting kids touch guns
wat?

>>83247351
how many get killed by a kid driving?
Now look at school shootings in the United States and tell me that it's not an issue.
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What the fuck is this series even about? Willis is shit. Why do you fags read this? are you SJWs or something?
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Mary close the door and phone campus security, you idiot.
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>>83247669
Look mom I posted it again

We'll see how long it stays up.
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>>83247733
I haven't read a single DoA strip besides the ones posted on these threads. I come here for the circular discussion and because I think Mary is cute and want to see her take Carla's dick
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>>83247708
>how many get killed by a kid driving?
According to CDC statistics published by groups like MADD - about 4700 people a year.


>Now look at school shootings in the United States and tell me that it's not an issue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

Since the Columbine shooting in '99 there have been 238 people killed and 328 people injured in school shootings in the United States. That's an average of 14 people a year in a country with a population of 310 million.


But please, tell us all about the "epidemic" of school shootings.
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>>83247981
How'd you get your post through moderation?
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>>83248074
I think the difference is that a gun's express purpose is to kill something, while a car's is to, like, get you places.
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>>83247647
The problem with gun control debates is that they focus of "assault weapons" when most gun crime is committed by hand guns. Also the people making the arguments for gun control don't know anything about guns and go off how scary the gun looks and uses phrases like "military style" "fully automatic/semi automatic" incorrectly so people don't even know what is being banned or restricted in proposed legislation.

>>83247685
I do believe their are restrictions in place to make sure you know a bit about gun safety. I I don't know what kind of insurance policy you would need to own a gun that can be comparative to that of a car, since cars are used for transportation and guns are solely used to cause destruction
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>>83248130
I dunno, it just posted when I hit submit.
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>>83247351
Drunk driving and texting while driving is illegal for exactly those reasons.
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>>83248204
Every time I try to post something it tells me "waiting for moderation" and it just ends up in eternal limbo
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>>83248255
Yeah, and doing illegal things with legal firearms is still illegal. But we don't ban guns entirely, do we?

No, you punish the person who did the crime, not the people who are all law-abiding citizens exercising their rights.
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>>83239415
It's not the internet per se, something happened with the generation growing up with it as their primary shaper. Most this shit starting hitting the fan about 08-09.
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>>83240876
Or been done with transition and looked a lot hotter
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>>83246571
And that makes him look like a spic how?
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>>83246137
That sounds reasonable. Do liberals keep every child they find on a field?
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>>83239231
So it's going to light a series of candelabras? She trying to summon the ghost of Liberace or something. Course he'd then tell both of them they dress like shit.
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>>83248279
The trick is getting approved once. Then your posts are auto-approved until they get deleted or Willy IP-bans you.

I think he IP-banned me twice, because he did the first one while I was visiting my parents and I didn't realize; and then after I posted again he tweeted about "how many times do I need to IP-ban this guy".
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>>83248660
Like liberals wouldn't have just left him there to die.

Sides Kent's were Old School Kennedy Democrats most likely. Cared about the welfare of their fellow man and their nation.
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>>83239231
>rube goldberg machine
>insanely complicated series of fragile parts that will only end in success if everything goes off without a hit
>literally all she has to do is either close her door or kick the whole thing over
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>>83247708
Kids in households with firearms should learn the danger of firearms and how to use them responsibly.
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>>83245313
It is the trademark of the editanon who makes these edits.
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>>83240878
Going to make loud noises or some shit. And the person writing doesn't know the glory of scoring a Rube Goldberg to Powerhouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDqR4fqIWE
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>>83248876
or maybe they should learn to not even interact with them ever, because why would a child ever need to use a weapon
How could a child ever become proficient enough to maintain and use a gun responsibly when kids can't even be trusted in a house alone (which is why people call baby sitters)
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>>83248831
When Superman was created, Kennedy meant "Boston Bootlegger"
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>>83248874
I hope that is what Mary does. Kicks is right in the middle and whatever was going to happen hits the doors on the other side.
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>>83249070
Just using him as an example as he was the last of the democrats to appeal to the Midwest that wasn't an anti-American globalists asshole.
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>>83248134

That doesn't change the statistics, anon.
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>>83249209
This was from /pol/, wasn't it?
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>>83244139
It makes any kind of discussion or criticism of his works impossible. He immediately takes it as a personal thing and stonewalls everyone.

It's one of the sad but true lessons the Penny Arcade guys gave the contestants of their webcomic contest thing: You are your Brand.
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>>83245843
Man, even the most avid gun people looked at that situation and pointed out that the Guns & BBQ did literally everything wrong they could do in that accident.

>Give a kid a SMG
>Give a customer a SMG with a full clip.
>Stand directly behind her so a recoil would drill the guy with a full burst.
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>>83249209
>All people under 18 killed in mass shootings
>Killed in mass shootings

Why limit the data so unnecessarily? Most gun deaths, like pool deaths, are accidental. You can't just compare a tiny fraction of gun deaths to all pool deaths like that.
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>>83248758
Being an online personality is easy when he has absolute control of this various forums.

It's going to get harder now that he's a Mature Adult with Two Kids, as he keeps harping about. Think just cutting off comments will be his next logical step to make his sanctum even more insular.
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>>83250032
Dude, anybody with half a brain can manipulate statistics to say whatever he want them to say.

And even them the totality of its argument boil to "this other thing is worse, so nothing should be made about guns". Which if taken to it's logical end means that nothing should be made about anything other than heart diseases.
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>>83250204
Dangerous freedom is better than safe prison.

Which, is where it ends up. Norway has arrested and fined a woman for pepperspraying someone trying to rape her.

The UK bans knives as well as guns. Infact, having anything onhand for the purpose of self-defense is seen as the same as having it for the purpose of planning to attack someone unprovoked.
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I reject your Mary and substitute my own.
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>>83250537
There are lots of countries with safe gun control that don't follow those extremes. In fact, they are more than those that do.
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>>83250661
and even then, I said nothing about the issue. Just that his argument in favor of it is dumb.
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>>83250589
>Mary not doing the hitting
What a turn off
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>>83250589
>tattoos
0/10
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>>83250661
That's the problem with the entire concept of fallacies.

They aren't an "I win" card. It has happened, so saying it might happen again is no more a slippery slope than saying turning on the tap will lead to a higher water bill.
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>>83251100
They aren't a "I win" card, they are an "You lose" card. All they do is evidence how the opposing argument is bullshit, while saying nothing about the opposite.

In fact I'm not advocating neither pro or against gun control. I'm just pointing out how the arguments presented are bullshit.

If you say that gun control leads to people being arrested for self defense then another can say that no gun control lead to America being the only civilized nation where school shootings happens regularly.

The error is that "it can happen" is different from "it will happen", even more when there are lots of examples where it didn't happen.
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>>83251100
>>83251354

Invoking a formalist fallacy is a non-argument. Especially when counterexamples exist that go ignored.

I remember a couple years ago when everyone online and in the media started jumping on the tranny train. Anyone who displayed any hesitancy about the idea of treating a recognized mental illness like gender dysphoria as something normal or even as something to be encouraged was slammed with a bigotry label. And anyone who dared utter sentiments to the likes of "I don't know, don't you worry that if we start treating this as normal, pretty soon people will be demanding we treat pedophilia or bestiality as normal" were buried in an avalanche of "SLIPPERY SLOPE"s

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster/
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>>83250032

>Most gun deaths, like pool deaths, are accidental.

It seems like the best thing to do then for a country like the United States where guns have been and will likely always be ubiquitous would be to enforce mandatory gun safety courses for all citizens. Wouldn't require them to actually use a firearm, just to learn how they work, how they should be stored, precautions, definitions of terms, and so on. Dispelling the ignorance many people in that country possess regarding firearms through comprehensive education would likely go a long way towards preventing accidents and diminishing the illogical fears the unlearned have regarding them.
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>>83251354
>The error is that "it can happen" is different from "it will happen"
Yes but if the thing your discussing happening is something that fundamentally changes your country and your life for the worse, a "can" is just as bad as a "will".
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>>83249063
>simply telling a kid to not do something
>expecting them to not do it
So how long have you been a human being? A few weeks I take it.
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>>83250589
I like this Mary a lot.
Draw her doing Cody moves with a Christian bent.
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>>83251469
>Yes but if the thing your discussing happening is something that fundamentally changes your country and your life for the worse, a "can" is just as bad as a "will".

First of all, a lot of people won't agree with the fact that it's changing your country and life for the worse. They are idiots? Maybe, but it still means that its a subjective thing.

Second, it's literally the same argument of obamacare leading to America being the new USSR. Considering a possibility as a certainty only because it's bad it lead to never changing anything because everything has a chance to go wrong. It stops any possibility of betterment and freeze society in its tracks.

>>83251388
Dressing as a woman isn't illegal, raping a baby it is. There is a little difference with the two things.

>"I don't know, don't you worry that if we start treating this as normal, pretty soon people will be demanding we treat pedophilia or bestiality as normal"

This is not slippery slope. Slippery slope is "I don't know, don't you worry that if we start treating this as normal, pretty soon raping a baby will be no longer against the law?"
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>>83251354
No, it's admitting your own defeat.

Throwing out a claim of fallacy is such a simplistic form of argumentation, that it admits to the fact that you have no counter argument.

This is why it's the favorite tactic of fledgling psudo-intellectuals and SJWs.
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>>83251832
And guess what's currently happening in the extreme left.
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her*
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>>83251888

They're raping babies?
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>>83251973
Did you read the article that the other anon linked?
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>>83251848
>Throwing out a claim of fallacy is such a simplistic form of argumentation, that it admits to the fact that you have no counter argument.

>"If we allow gay marriage then that means before long it will be legal to marry things!"
>Dude that's bullshit, the two things are not correlated at all
>"Ah, you are invoking slippery slope fallacy! Clearly you are doing that only because you have no answer!"

If an argument is bullshit is bullshit, no matter in what way you point out the smell. But as I said just pointing out the smell doesn't make your argument not bullshit. A Fallacy is a rebuttal, but you still need a counterargument.

>>83251888
It is? You americans are crazy. For me I'm happy to live in a country where we can do things left or right without immediatly descending into fascism or raping babies.
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>>83250537
>Dangerous freedom is better than safe prison.
and that is a statement of opinion, not of fact.
Depending on the rubric you set for success, China is either a backwards shithole of corruption and misery, or the most successful nation-state in the world.
"better" is a function of priorities. We know where your priorities lie, but those priorities are not universal to the human condition, and are not axiomatic.
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>>83252024
Isn't the article about a pedophile saying that while he understand that raping babies is morally wrong he can't help to be attracted to them so he needs psychiatric care instead of being demonized?

It doesn't seem to me that he's asking to being allowed to rape babies.
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>>83251832
>Dressing as a woman isn't illegal, raping a baby it is.
You're underexaggerating one and overexaggerating the other.

A person suffering from gender dysphoria isn't just dressing in drag, they're mentally compelled to undergo radical pharmaceutical and even surgical alternations. Likewise just because someone hasn't raped a baby doesn't mean they're not still a pedophile.


People had legitimate concerns that if you started treating a disorder like GD as "normal" and even went as far as passing hate speech laws that make it discrimination not to reinforce the delusions of their disorder, that naturally people suffering from other disorders or engaging in deviant behaviors would start doing the same. And while these people were dismissed with the slippery slope fallacy, in the years since the whole "gender identity movement" started building momentum, you've seen just that happen.

People have started pushing for pedophilia to be recognized as a "normal" attraction. People suffering from Body Integrity Identity Disorder have started demanding that doctors perform amputations and other surgeries on them on the basis that if Sexual Reassignment Surgery is "normal", then "voluntary disabling" should be seen as "normal" too.
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>>83244068
Depends. In Shi'a Islam being trans is fine as long as you get reassignment surgery promptly and aren't gay. A dude can choose to become a woman, but then he's expected to behave like a proper Islamic woman in all regards.
Iran actually has a huge number of sexual reassignment surgeons.
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>>83252288
What is normal is defined by society. As technology can allow for more seamless gender reassignments, it is to be expected that society will accommodate by no longer recognizing GD as a mental illness.
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>>83252418
What is normal is defined by society. As the age of puberty continues to decrease, it is to be expected that society will accommodate by no longer recognizing pedophilia as a deviant attraction.
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>>83252418
What is normal is defined by society. As technology can allow for greater and greater control and integration of the human mind with electronic systems, it is to be expected that society will accommodate by no longer recognizing identifying as an attack helicopter as a mental illness.
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>>83252418
What is normal is defined by society. As technology can allow for more seamless body alterations, it is to be expected that society will accommodate by no longer recognizing thinking you're a giant cat man as a mental illness.
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>>83252685
God willing. That day can't come soon enough.
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>>83252618
I'm not wrong. Until the 19th century, the age of consent was like 10 years old. You're speaking like our modern aversion to pedophilia is ubiquitous throughout history. Thankfully, the age of consent is rising in our modern age.
>>83252618
>>83252685
>cutting your dick off is the same as becoming non-human, and in the former case an inanimate object
You need to be 18 to use this site.
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>>83253024
Cutting off your dick is the same as cutting off a limb.

Does that mean people who want to have their legs amputated are normal?
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>>83249209
>and then his opponent ran out of the room crying and all the other students stood up and applauded while he went on to give a lecture for 2 hours
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>>83253139
You need a leg to be a fully functioning being. Arguably, you don't need a dick as much.
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>>83247981
Still there?
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>>83243125
>Carla is in the dark
>Mary is in the light
>this is the last time they spoke as friends
Bravo Vince
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>>83248632
I guess Zod looks more Mexican. Just saying the is genetically not the same as superman.
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reminder that literally 100% of trainnies intend to chop off their dick with their kitchen knife
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>>83252349
They aren't really fine with it, it's just their way of getting them out of they way. They aren't really thought of as "transgender" in the modern liberal sense, just weird eunuchs.
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>>83249063
>why would a child ever need to use a weapon

When they've been raped and murdered by an illegal Mexican Muslim immigrant terrorist it's too late to learn how to use one.
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>>83248134
>a gun's express purpose is to kill something

And?
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I know at least one of you fags gives him money on Patreon. Post tomorrow's comic.
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>>83253974
Here. People are already pointing out in the comments section(the Patreon one) that since Mary took the box for herself then none of this is Carla's fault.
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>>83254438
Well, we all wanted to see Carla put something white, sticky and gooey all over Mary, didn't we.
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>>83252754
He killed himself..
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>>83252754
>tfw catgirl doctors will not happen in your lifetime
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>>83254438
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>>83254438
And ultimately, all of Ultra's antics come back to pie.

I'm sure a lot of internet LBGT defenders were hoping Ultra would cash her micro-aggressions in for a macro-aggression.
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>>83254438
This is a bad comic.
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>>83253395
>You need a leg to be a fully functioning being. Arguably, you don't need a dick as much.
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>>83254438
Also, at least put the switch at the top of the hair dryer where the fly swatter will make contact.
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>>83254438
It must be nice for Carla to have so much free time that she can construct a complicated Rube Goldberg machine and a camouflaged pie launcher.

If Mary weren't so busy studying, doing homework, and trying to actually finish college maybe she could do stuff like that.
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>>83249209
If you're going to make shit up, the least you could do is make it realistic.
That argument isn't particularly well thought out. There are three obvious rebuttals here.
1) You only pulled out a sheet of paper talking about MASS shooting deaths. That's misleading as fuck. People want stricter gun laws for more than just mass shootings.
2)The fact that you decided to make it from "since the 50s" is also misleading considering the idea of mass shootings is a relatively new phenomena. I imagine everyone listed on the mass shooting list happened after the late 90s.
3) Guns are explicitly designed to kill and harm others. Pools are not.
tl;dr "AND NO ONE COULD REPLY BECAUSE MY ARGUMENT WAS JUST SO FLAWLESS" stories are retarded.
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Trying to get society to tolerate trannies seems odd to me since the entire reason they mutilate themselves is to fit into the gender roles society taught them. Their entire mental condition is defined by conformity, not activism. If they wanted to change the world then they wouldn't have become trannies.
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>>83254438
I... don't think that would work. The moving contraption springing upwards would push the box downwards. And it's moving backwards towards Mary, meaning it's creating torque forwards. Also, it looks metallic, so it has quite a bit of mass. Both together would have made the box slip from Mary's hands and fall down.
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>>83255615
>Expecting the mentally ill to posses rational thought.
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>>83255115
The pie is made with acid.
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>>83249001
NOT HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
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>>83254438
How did the box lid just conveniently move sideways?
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>>83241597
you have to go back
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>>83245843
All the best shooting ranges have restaurants attached to them.
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>>83255553
>the idea of mass shootings is a relatively new phenomena
See >>83248074

There have been mass shootings in the US since before there was a US. In fact that were more mass shootings in the US BEFORE Columbine than since.


There have been mass killings killings since man first learned to throw rocks at one another. This is not a new phenomena.
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>>83254911
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>>83254438
Why did Mary ignore the contraption and go for the box? Why did she assume the box was going to protect her? This over the top revenge is turning out to be even more disappointing then I thought.
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>>83246457
TRANNY SCIENCE doesn't work.
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>>83239231
I'm trying to figure out how that trap is supposed to work.
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>>83256243
Why didn't she just close her door?
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>>83256303
Because she had to see what was in the box.
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>>83254438
Even if the person is supposed to be extremely paranoid, why would anyone ignore the dumb bullshit in front of their door to snatch a box away from the person who probably put said bullshit there.

This comic as a whole is so preposterous. What is Mary's motivation right now? Why hasn't she already gone to the administration to bust the shitty RA and catch Carla in the middle of her shenanigans. She literally has used her power over Ruth to do jack shit that she wasn't doing before, all while seemingly fearing for her safety. How can she be simultaneously aware of everything going on in her wing of the dorm, but so fucking impotent to actually do anything. There's no teeth to any of her "villainy", even Carla got over her "men's dorm" comment in the space of an hour. Why am I supposed to feel good about "Mary getting her comeuppance" when she's already been treated as a joke by the people she's supposed to be oppressing? If it's just because she has a shitty attitude and ideology, that's not enough. The bad guy has to also actually have a position of power for it to feel good when the hero bests them. That's basic writing.

And if we're really supposed to believe that Mary has all this power and everyone is just ignoring it because they can't stand her that much, then there has to be real fucking consequences when she uses that power to do whatever. Which so far seems like making Ruth lose her job and replacing her with another RA that will probably do a better job. Even the stakes on that are boring as hell.
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>>83256290
>I'm trying to figure out how that trap is supposed to work.
Carla doesn't work, Carla is a student.
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>>83256402
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>>83253395
So you think, if we went out and asked 100 normal functional adult men whether they'd rather chop off their dick or one leg, most of them would pick their dicks?
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>>83256517
personally, i don't fuck as much as i walk
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>>83256402
Aren't Carla's parents rich as hell?
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>>83242746
Fucking brilliant.

I only just saw the stupid trigger warning strip and I cannot believe he did that shit.
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>>83256587
You're fucking crazy.
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>>83256619
They would be to afford that therapy and all.
Carla is basically the most privileged character in the strip.
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>>83256587
>he doesn't even fuck as much as he walks
>>>/r9k/
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>>83255995
Hey hey my edit thanks friendo
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>>83251586
>Draw her doing Cody moves with a Christian bent.
I'm not sure how to interpret that.
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>>83254438
Also, I'm sure the readers Willis was so worried about disturbing with Becky's Tragic Suicide past appreciate the sudden gear-shift to Bugs and Daffy antics.
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>>83247552
But some people acting irresponsibly is a reason to enforce laws that punish irresponsibility. The same way traffic laws apply to everyone but are only burdensome to people that want to drive like assholes.
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>>83257138
Oh, sorry, I should've been specific. I meant Cody from Street Fighter. Her outfit reminded me of him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJmgM2b6OuI
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>>83257817
I figured you meant him, but I don't really know too much about him. I can see the similarities.

I don't really like indulging in what's technically fanart for DoA (not after that Hitlerjugend strip), but Mary's way too fun to draw.

Good distraction from a suicidal mood at any rate.
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>>83252288
You know, you are missing the basic and obvious difference.

A guy cutting off is own dick is only damaging to themselves.

A pedophile acting upon his attraction is not damaging himself, he's damaging others before all, and others from a particulary vulnerable cathegory.

It's the same difference between a suicidal person and a serial killer.

If you seriously think that the fact that people are becoming allowed to do what they want with their bodies in new ways means that soon murder and rape will be legalized you are an idiot.
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>>83257738
Suppose you're a responsible driver. You've never had an accident, hell you've never had a ticket. You drive the speed limit, you always use your turn signals, you always check your blind spots before changing lanes, etc. You are a law-abiding, responsible driver.

One day, some nutjob steals a tricked out car, flies down the expressway at 100 mph, and flies off the road into a restaurant, killing two dozen people.

In response, your state's officials decide to impose some new laws.

The speed limit on the expressway is dropped from 50 mph to 20 mph. A three day waiting period is imposed on the purchase of fuel or car fluids. Racing cars, and even ordinary cars sporting 'racing accessories' like spoilers or fancy rims are now prohibited under the ban on "Assault Cars". And families owning more than one car are put on a list of "High Risk Car Owners" whose homes the DMV is now allowed to randomly search for illegal car accessories. The government tells the public that these measures are for public safety, and that law-abiding drivers have absolutely nothing to worry about.

"But these are all major inconveniences," you say to yourself, "many are a huge breach of my privacy and consumer rights, and of course these new laws do absolutely nothing to prevent another nutjob from going out, stealing a car, and plowing into a pedestrian mall or a school."


But be careful - if you point any of those obvious facts out, everyone will accuse you of being an unreasonable "Car Nut".
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>>83258065
Who said anything about rape, anon?

You're being so unreasonable. We're not talking about pedophiles ACTING on their compulsions... no, they're just going to take photos of kids in public spaces and go home and have a nice wank. They're just expressing their perfectly natural feelings.

And if they apply for a job teaching at your kid's school... well I mean it's not like they're really hurting anyone.

And if one day your daughter should come home in tears saying someone at school had done things to her private place. What?? You think it's that nice pedosexual teacher at the school!? I'm surprised at you anon! You're so intolerant of others! Just because your daughter was sexually abused is no reason to go around making baseless accusations! It's so like you bigoted pedophobes to go around harassing innocent transpedosexual persons.

Why don't you check your own privilege before accusing someone of being a "freak" or a "pervert"! In fact I've recommended that you and your daughter attend a special pedo-sensitivity training session this week.
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>>83259307
This is quite possibly the most paranoid, nonsensical rant I have ever seen.

And it still comes down to [something happens] = [MULTIPLE UNRELATED THINGS THEREFORE HAPPEN AND KEEP HAPPENING AND AAA THEY GET WORSE].

I mean, do you have any hard data that allowing people to do what they want with their own bodies would make people more comfortable with pedophiles? Their problem has nothing to do with their own body after all. Even if it did, who says that understanding them would mean accepting them? Who says it wouldn't just lead to people just getting them help with their brain problems?

You're taking two unrelated things and mashing them together, and just going "SEE!? IF THIS HAPPENS, THAT WILL HAPPEN!" Well, if you say so, nigga. But if you want to make wild baseless claims, then anyone can, in any direction, and they're just as valid as yours.
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>>83258065

Most trannies don't cut their dicks off, and prefer having sex with women.

They're literally just men who want to hang out in the women's bathrooms.

Raping actual women may not be the goal, but it's 100% the dream.
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>>83259022
You do understand the difference between a car and a gun, right

Like that's not a good analogy
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>>83255925
>This is not a new phenomena.
No but in what we try to consider civilized societies mass killings are generally frowned upon, and when said mass killings are made easier by easy access to firearms then.

Nobody's arguing that nobody has ever killed anyone en masse before. They're saying that the phenomenon of students going to their schools and liberating so many people from their fleshly shells is something of a new experience, and is considerably worrisome as academia is meant to be a controlled environment where you can experience and absorb new knowledge and ideas. "Have you ever considered a bullet to the brain?" is not one of those ideas. Academia is meant to be a trigger warning "safe space" in the purely physical. Ideas cannot hurt you. Any devices or objects that could easily hurt you are kept under supervision and trained to avoid needless injury.

And then some kid brings a gun to school and ventilates the student body. I'm not saying guns are the problem, though, but it's easy to see why they might be.

How low the casualties are in comparison to the overall population means nothing. If you were going to be mugged and stabbed to death, one would hope a person's response shouldn't be "Nah he's just one person whatever". I don't think guns are the issue so much as whatever the fuck is going on in academia that prompts people to buckshot the knitting club. What the fuck goes on in academia that makes these shootings occur and why has it substantially only been a recent development, is where I would investigate matters if I actually gave a wet fuck.
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>>83259929
Well that first sentence kind of aborted a thought I had but that's what I get for posting in a DoA thread.
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>>83239231
But will it blow up?
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>>83259665
>You do understand the difference between a car and a gun, right

Yeah... owning a car isn't a constitutional right.


Look, you guys act like the kinds of measures I suggested for cars are so far fetched and unreasonable that no law maker would ever suggest similar laws for guns. But they already have or are.

New York tried to pass a law earlier this year that would have made it illegal to purchase more than twice a weapon's capacity worth of ammunition within a three month period.

Florida a couple years ago tried to pass a law that would have imposed waiting periods and background checks on purchasing ammunition.

Connecticut recently proposed a law that would have required the state to print a publicly available record of all the names and home addresses of gun owners in the state.

Washington state officials a year ago tried to pass a law limiting the size of magazines for legal semi-automatic pistols and shotguns, which included a caveat allowing police to randomly search homes of registered gun owners to make sure they were complying with the new law.


Every time a major new gun control law comes out and gun owners rant about it, the pro-control crowd comes out and whines about how fucking unreasonable all those "crazy gun nuts" are being. And then another comes out. And another. And another. Each adding more and more layers of inconvenience and restriction on law abiding citizens and infringing on their constitutional rights.
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>>83255377
Water is wet.
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>>83240405
Part of me wants to point out to Willis that a hospital would have no way of knowing whether or not she is enrolled in college and that her student ID which is only weeks old would absolutely not be suspicious. The rest of me knows that he would just call me dick and act he won the argument.
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>>83254438
Reminder - the readers are supposed to sympathize with the guy living in the girl's dorm who skateboards and horseplays down the halls at all hours, draws dicks on everybody's doors, and creates elaborate revenge machines in their free time


... not the girl who wanted to study for her classes.
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>>83259665
Cars kill far more people and aren't a constitutional right?
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>>83256587
>not giving up walking to masturbate another day
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>>83260548
>the guy living in the girl's dorm
But she's not. She's a girl who just happened to be born with a penis. Check your privilege, cis scum.
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>>83260820
Does that cancel out all the other stuff?
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>>83260996
Pretty much, yeah. That and Mary being an unsympathetic hateful bitch. You know, like how all decent people are siding with Gawker against Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel?
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>>83254438
Huh. I was wondering why it looked like the Rube Goldberg Device wasn't gonna do anything.
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>>83256243
>>83256303
>>83256349
Classic Misdirection.
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>>83257924
>Mary's way too fun to draw
Your drawings are fun to look at too!
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>>83262169
and now Carla is going to make some stupid bullshit about how Mary "stole" something from her and this will some how get Ruth back on top again. Then she will learn the valuable lesson of "keep drinking, not doing your job, abuse your authority and someone with a dick in a dress will solve your problems for you.
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Mary desrves better than this
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https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/736611041329713152


Oh shit he's onto us
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>>83262907
Is it us for sure, or does he just assume everyone who doesn't agree with him is from 4chan?
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>>83262970
Yes, and yes.
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>>83262970
https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/736610876980072448

Dunno but he wants us to stop asking this question.
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>>83262970
4chan hates Tumblr. Willis is an SJW so if somebody disagree with him it's 4chan and they get banned.
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>>83263084
Haha so his own personal comment section isn't a safe enough space and he has to seek validation on twitter?
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>>83260548
>draws dicks on everybody's doors

That was sexually repressed blue eyed christian, Carla was angry until she found out it was on everyone's door.
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>>83250128
He's done that a few times, usually when he realizes that not everyone will see things the way he wants them too. At first he would delete and ban people who side with Mary, but when to many people did that he just shut off comments.
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>>83263084
Man he spends way to much time flipping out on twitter and calling people ignorant.

I guess it's good to know that Willy is so then skinned you can easily set him off.
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>>83263211
All webcomic artists secretly despise their fans. I remember the IW! fandom back when the comment section was a forum and on IRC we'd constantly insult the "filthy boardies", like we were so much better than them or something.

>>83263672
If you portray someone saying something in your story, or let somebody post something on your website, you're basically saying you agree with everything they say. The use/mention distinction was too confusing so we got rid of it.
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>>83253535
Your falseflagging is cringe worthy.
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>>83254438

most of the commenters in the regular page predicted the outcoming.
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>>83251421

That actually the way it is done in Switzerland, and why they have one of the smallest full-time army of the entire world, but don't expect them not to fight for their land tho. There are reasons why nobody managed to capture the damn place while being in the midst of a continent filled with constant wars for ages.

>Tfw a close family members was talking of them and how they were an exemple for the world since they didn't had a huge army

Sjw are so ignorant of how the world truly work, the irony is palpable.
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>>83240368
No, Anon. Carla is based off of Ultracar, a hyper-intelligent AI in the body of a flying car. She's bound to be a perfect engineer, constructing this device over the course of weeks.
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>>83248134

A gun express purpose is being a tube of metal with an explosive inside as to propel a projectile in the direction where the tube in question is pointing. Everything else, and I mean it, is entirely contextual. It can be used to kill anything just as much as it can be used in a class room to teaches about firearms. You cannot solve this ''problem'' by banning them, since all it would do is make the access to firearm harder for law abiding citizen ( since they would follow the law from which said ban would entail) while making the life of criminal ever easier since they'd know for fact they are far less likely to get a bullet to the forehead when doing home invasions, holdups and the likes. Else you get a sliperry slope clusterfuck like modern britain, where things as mundane as knifes or utensils require to be 18+ year old to buy, even the flimsy plastic ones, as if it would prevent the lowly street scum from just shivving you with some grinded metal spike.

It just doesn't work, so might as well just teach peoples how to PROPERLY use firearm instead.
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>>83264947
*hours
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>>83265200
Oh, that's right. In universe time moves as slowly as a retard at a spelling bee.
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>>83265015
yeah, because the guy that created the first gun was totally "wow, gonna use it to shoot trees"
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>>83265355
Who the fuck said anything about that?
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A quote from Cerb on today's strip:

"I can assure you that the weight of being the better person is swallowing a lot of bullshit on a daily basis and enjoying the fine PTSD aftermath where you start to genuinely believe you deserve all the abuse and you are worth less than cis folk."

Forgiveness is pointless. Revenge is everything. I'm going to burn the world down for making me hurt.

Yeah, THAT'S emotionally healthy.
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>>83265450
But being emotionally unstable is the new cool thing, anon! It shows how unique and special they are
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>>83249209
I think the difference to a pool is that no one is actually killing you. That is kind of relevant. I mean, if you die by your own stupidity, or by something that could easily be avoided, it's different than getting murdered by a guy out of nowhere.
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>>83254438
>mary didn't just close the door and call campus security
Why
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>>83265450
Leave Cerb alone. You'll never understand what she's gone through.

Neither will Willis, but that's neither here nor there.
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>>83265526
>I mean, if you die by your own stupidity, or by something that could easily be avoided, it's different than getting murdered by a guy out of nowhere.
If only there was some kind of convenient, easy-to-use, handheld self-defense device that people could carry around for use in an emergency.

I mean, wow, that sounds so amazing everyone would want them, civilians, police... you might even consider making it a right to own one!
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>>83265355

Actually, black powder has been used for millennia in mining operations like quarries but was seldom used due to its reactivity, complexity of containment (has to be kept very dry at all time else it loose much of its power, kind of hard to do back then when the best waterproof material they had to make pot was dirt and the like) and the manipulation. Chance are that one day, some Chinese general or military advisor walked by a quarry where they used black powder, saw stones being flown far into the sky and told himself " Damn, that would be effective as hell against the enemies fortification!" thus giving birth to the first "firearm", the mortar, which is pretty much a bucket of metal with the bottom covered in blackpowder, with a small tube built in its side to allow the ignition of the black powder from a relatively safe place.

Everything else that happened afterward in the development of cannons, firearm and afterward artillery was mostly improvement upon specific details or concept that simply weren't taken into consideration when they first made them. Nearly everything that define modern weapons are mostly technical stuff that changes very little to the nature of the weapon and are there more for convenience than being a requirment, like automatic reloading system, reload able magazines and etc
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>>83266424

Carrying around an ugly little ball full of hatred and resentment and thoughts of revenge inside you doesn't help anyone. I understand THAT, if nothing else.

Yes, it's hard, yes, it sucks, yes, it's not fair - but after a certain point you have to stop thinking about retribution and move on with your life. Because THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE A GOOD PERSON. Revenge solves NOTHING.
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>>83266484
>you might even consider making it mandatory to own them
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>>83266484
>If only there was some kind of convenient, easy-to-use, handheld self-defense device that people could carry around for use in an emergency.
if someone wants to kill you, he will just take his gun and shoot before you can do anything. Most cases of people 'defending themselves' the crimminal had no intention to kill.
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>>83253024
>Thankfully, the age of consent is rising in our modern age.

That isn't thankful at all
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>>83252094
I can't think of a single country that fits your description of how your country is

It's probably a matter of you being a moron rather than your country being sunshine and daisies
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And this is where Mary will throw a punch and get expelled.
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>>83267306
WHERED THE PIEBOX COME FROM?
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>>83267306
Are those some kind of hologram flashlight?
And what's with the mustard bottles?
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>>83266958
And?
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>>83267473
I don't know man, Carla's wacky or some shit, just laugh and move on.
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>>83267306
what am i supposed to feel here.
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>>83267536
Apathy
Or rage

Up to you
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>>83267306
>and get expelled
Nothing is allowed to have serious consequences given the decompressed timeline something something. If no deaths then probably no expulsions either.
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>>83267306
That looks like some sort of fire/safety hazard. All that just to get back at someone? Aren't they supposed to be adults?
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>>83267536
Laugh because the most privileged white character in the strip is trans, and its ironic how the tumblr fags are rallying behind her.
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>>83267601
>college students
>adults
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>>83267601
>Aren't they supposed to be adults
Being an adult means getting back at someone.

Someone needs to point out that Willis just compared getting pied in the face the same as someone saying something bigoted and transphobic.
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>>83265521
>>83265450
>>83266424

Cerebus is a firm believer in the micro- to macro-aggression exchanges, I'm guessing.
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>>83267306
and thanks to this thread, I know the next panel won't be bible punk Mary curb stomping Carla while spouting passages
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>>83267306
... This entire storyline is retarded.
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>>83267601
Adulthood is a myth.
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>>83267654
That's the thing that irks me the most. Aside from being Trans, Carla more privileged than most of the other characters.
She's rich, her parents love her, they pay for her own room(it's not because she's trans), she's tall, she has no missing limbs, she passes, and she has the authority on her side.
What the fuck is there to feel sorry for?
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>>83266958
>Most cases of people 'defending themselves' the crimminal had no intention to kill.

Any criminal is going to say that they had no intention to kill, they have a vested interest in not being charged with a more serious crime.
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>>83267756
Most MtF trannies I've met who don't have a lot of money are fat and ugly as sin, and fighting the facial hair on a daily basis if they so much as think about missing a hormone pill.

Carla is probably hotter than a natural 5 or 6 thanks to surgery and tons of money, yet we're supposed to feel bad for her cause Mary said "go to the boys dorm" She didn't even call her a science experiment.
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>>83267668

She has the option to be a bigger person and she's not taking it because she's been severely wronged by the world and that apparently gives her the right to say and do whatever the fuck she feels like.

And there's an entire GENERATION of people out there who think like this. "No bad tactics, only bad targets" - if you've SUFFERED, than anything you do is morally right. No exceptions.

I don't want to think about what's going to happen when all of this comes crashing down.
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>>83267877
To be fair, most of these people are extremely anti-2A. So they don't actually do anything except talk shit at the police and get tazed.
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>>83266424
If Willis wasn't so busy with bitching on twitter and raising twins, I'd think that Cerebrus was him doing deep cover damage control as an 'oppressed' class.
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>>83268001

Any one of us posting on this board for any reason makes us a legitimate target to people like them.

What do you think they're going to do to people like us if they lose control?
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>>83267877
>when all of this comes crashing down
Who's to say it will? I think this is the new normal.
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>>83268112

You can't sustain anger and resentment like that forever. You either lash out or move past it. Which one do you think THEY'RE going to do?
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>>83268112

It's not, though. Every generation rebels. Soon the next wave of kids will be more conservative then their parents.
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The problem here is the severe tonal whiplash. Somehow this went from Mary misgendering Carla to her getting a pie in the face. That's like holding a gun to a person's head and then saying "I got your nose!".

It also doesn't help that we're coming to this storyline just after Becky The Lesbianâ„¢ revisiting her past homelife, including the attempted(?) suicide of her mother. Again, there is a tonal whiplash here that makes everything unbelievable, not to mention how Mary is being painted as an illogical villain character for the sake of putting Carla on higher ground.

You know how Becky is a wacky lesbian?
Carla may as well be a wacky transsexual.
They both get off scot free from their transgressions because they're wacky redheads who flip the bird and grin.
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>>83265999
I feel like Willis is Mary more and more irrational, and I think it's to retroactively make her mostly proportionately escalated response to Carla's annoyance earlier seem less rational along with her.

I saw it happen in a little after the "boys' dorm" strip. Someone mentioned that skating on a floor inside can be really friggin' loud, so Mary was understandably miffed by it. Willis was quick to respond that Carla was skating on carpet not floor. Now, Willis loves being anal about stuff that doesn't matter, and loves being right in public, so part of it was definitely that, but part of that was him downplaying the actual noise that Carla was making. The problem with that is, when Mary looks up from her book, there is large onomatopoeia of skating noises around her head, showing that it clearly was disturbing her. I think the font size is the same when Carla later stomps in front of Mary's door, and they have trouble hearing each other over the din. So, the actual strip Willis made disagrees with what he thought he was making.


>>83267306
Case in point, Mary looks incredibly deranged over a pie prank, when she was very measured before. Even when she was calling Ruth a cunt, she had control of herself. Now she has no control, and she's compeletly irrational. Which is really pointless when she's supposed to be a villain because she's observant and vindictive, not flying off the handle. That would only work if she was physically violent, and she's like the tiniest person in the strip.
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>>83266958
>Most cases of people 'defending themselves' the crimminal had no intention to kill.
What kind of complete fucking moron is going to take that risk when they or their loved ones are threatened??

Christ, I hope you never have a wife or kids.
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>>83268200
You've put more thought into it than he has, trust me.
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>>83267306
HAPPENING
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>>83267503
And, having guns won't help you on a situation of true emergency. Actually, if there were no weapons, you wouldn't even need to defend yourself at all.

>>83267773
The point is, guns won't help you if the guy simply wants to kill you, and if he just wants to rob you, you can count on the police to get your stuff back without putting yourself at risk; or at least that's the ideal situation.
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>>83268399
>Actually, if there were no weapons, you wouldn't even need to defend yourself at all.
Wow thanks genius for this outstanding observation
Too bad practically anything can be used as a weapon
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>>83267654
>her
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>>83268399
>Actually, if there were no weapons, you wouldn't even need to defend yourself at all.
Europeans actually believe this is a likely thing
>guns won't help you if the guy simply wants to kill you
P sure me blasting his torso away with 2 rounds of buckshot will help
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>>83268284
>What kind of complete fucking moron is going to take that risk when they or their loved ones are threatened
I never specified this case because it's not relevant. Notably, most people defending themselves do that when they are alone, of course. Whatever the case; WHEN they defend themselves, the crimminal most likely had no intention to kill them. If they had, they could just kill before you have any kind of reaction, or right after getting what they wanted.
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>>83268451
>Too bad practically anything can be used as a weapon
Somebody post the Shang Chi picture.
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>>83243736
>So once again this loops back to Willis, His Life Experience, and of course His Mom.

This just makes me think of Crankshaft recently.
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>>83248141
>and guns are solely used to cause destruction

Hey fuck you, I use my gun for trick nail hammering during construction.
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>>83267306
Here's the thing.

Mary is the only character who's had enough guys to call Ruth out for being an abusive, alcoholic bitch, or call Carla out for being an obnoxious cunt. Joyce's older brother is the only character who's pointed out the fucking elephant in the room - that Becky is an insufferable, immature, unstable person and is having a very negative influence on Joyce.

If Willis follows down the path he seems to be foreshadowing - getting Mary kicked out, having the older brother be rejected by Joyce and the younger brother, and so on... within another 5-6 months he'll have effectively eliminated any and all sources of conflict and drama (real or imagined) in the comic...


... at which point a decent chunk of his patreon readers will bail because the comic will be even more of a boring hugbox than it already is. Sure the tumblr LGBT crowd will keep subscribing, but despite what Willis portrays in his comic, 99% of the world's population is not comprised of gays, lesbians, and trannies.
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What if Willis went to Silent Hill? What would be his demons? And what would be his endings?
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>>83268451
No strawman, please.

I'm talking about 'guns', of course. You would still need to defend yourself even if there were no weapons at all, but it's way easier to do so without guns.

>>83268492
>Europeans actually believe this is a likely thing
I live in Brasil. Our country is shit, and still baning guns worked here.

The only crimminals that can actually have a gun are drug kingpins, or borrowing the gun from them, which is unlikely to happen since if they lose that weapon the 'boss' will just kill him.

Gun laws are a huge blow to organized crime. Even if they can bypass it; it's not cheap. It is very unlikely someone will use a gun for retarded reasons, like school shootings.

>P sure me blasting his torso away with 2 rounds of buckshot will help
since he planned to kill you, he will obviously do that before you.
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>>83268797
His version of Silent Hill would have a lot of blatant Christian imagery, for one thing.
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>>83239231
>Daily reminder that we're supposed to like Carla and his disproportionate retribution on Mary.
Well yeah, she's not a mean bitch.
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>>83268839
>The only criminals that can actually have a gun are drug kingpins
>Gun laws are a huge blow to organized crime.
But there's drug kingpins and corruption is rampant in Brazil. The organized crime there is much more organized and powerful than in America (which ALSO has gun laws).
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>>83268839
Isn't there still a lot of violent crime?
I'd rather get shot than hacked up with a machete, guy.
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>>83268865
>his
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>>83268839
>brazil
>banning gun worked
You guys have one of the highest murder rates in the whole damn world. What the hell worked, exactly?
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>>83267756
We can feel sorry that her constant antagonizing of Mary will prevent Mary from realizing the technicality that comes with Carla being trans in allowing them a relationship that can be called heterosexual. Thus, we are deprived of a sexily abusive and abusively sexy Mary/Carla romance.

>>83268499
>>83268399
Random murder done without the victim's awareness is a pretty rare circumstance. It also doesn't remove the fact that seemingly non-lethal attacks frequently kill people, even if death wasn't intended. And you can't count on police getting your stuff back, you can't even count on them investigating in many cases.
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>>83268865
>I just wanted to study for my classes.
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>>83268959
it's easier to run away unharmed from a guy with a machete than a guy with a gun
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>>83268839
>its a shitposting hue
yeah gun laws work, thats why 2/3 vids from brazil are of a gun getting his bike jacked by a guy with a gun
>since he planned to kill you, he will obviously do that before you.
No? Since Mass shootings in America are often stopped with a normal person's gun? Same with home invasions? Why should I allow someone to steal from me?
>>83268797
theyd all be his parents
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>>83268776
>99%
More like 90-95%, depending on whose numbers you believe. The official statistics are likely undercounting the LGBT population due to how many are in the closet.
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>>83246293
>implying an extraterrestrial child landing on a nation of a planet that has never had documented interaction with a being from another planet and any sort of legal precedent for them to be considered an illegal immigrant in the first place is comparable to someone from another country blatantly and knowingly ignoring immigration procedure like everyone else
I fucking hate it when people try use the retarded argument that Superman is an illegal immigrant
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>>83268839
>he thinks gun control works in brazil
>they have a higher gun-related death rate than the US of fucking A
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>>83268983
Not counting stabbings as murder apparently.
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>>83255844
Tranny science.
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>>83246174
>>83246065


what's funny is that trying to teach a 9 year old girl to shoot an uzi is a sign of equalitarian shitlib cancer. little girls should be at home learning to be feminine not at fucking shooting ranges pretending to be men.
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>>83268839

>You would still need to defend yourself even if there were no weapons at all, but it's way easier to do so without guns.

Please explain to me how it's easier for a 100 pound woman to defend herself from a 200 pound prospective rapist when there are no guns involved and no one else is around to help her. Guns are an equalizer that allow the physically weak to defend themselves from the physically strong. The only way this statement of yours makes sense would be if everyone was a superpowered master of kung fu and on equal footing unarmed anyway.
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>>83269007
Sorry old folks, disabled, fat people, children, and anyone who happens to be less athletic than machete guy, looks like you're getting the Voorhees special. Take heart knowing that at least no one was killed by a gun; that'd be terrible.
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Okay, everybody, shut the fuck up for a moment.

Is there any way that Carla could have gotten that contraption in front of Mary's door without anybody else noticing?
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>>83269187

The entire floor probably helped her get all that shit up there. Are there any characters that are even on Mary's side?
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>>83269187
Of course not - but obviously Mary is Satan-incarnate so everybody would be on board with helping Carla plan his revenge.
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>>83254438
This is kinda dumb.
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Mary is evil.
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>>83269187
It doesn't fucking matter man. Willis will just say it's a comic so we shouldn't take it too seriously, but then jump down our throats when we say the exact same thing.
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>>83268940
The point is, you're much less likely to die for retarded reasons because of gun laws here, despite the corruption. They work; not entirely, but they do something. Think of what it could do in a country that is actually prepared for that.

And of course, i'm talking about laws banning guns; not any gun regulamentation. You can't deny that in the United States you can get gun without any kind of background check in some states, and literally walk with a machine gun on the streets.

>>83268959
>I'd rather get shot than hacked up with a machete, guy.
i'd rather try my luck with the machete guy. At least i can run well. I think.

>>83268983
murder rate =/= gun related violence.

And even in 'gun violence', i was talking about a specific kind where the gun law is helping.
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>>83268839

It'd be way easier to defend yourself if both guns and men didn't exist, maybe we should just get rid of both.
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>>83269293
Is Willis okay, like mentally?
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>>83269323

Has he ever given you the impression that he was okay mentally?
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>>83269229
>>83269235
in b4 it turns out that Mary is the only character with a stable home life.

That's right: Mary's so evil, her parents are still together, happily married for more than 20 years.
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>>83239231
>>83254438
>>83267306
Gee.... I can't imagine why anyone would think Carla's an insufferable, obonxious cunt.
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>>83268865
>Carla isn't a mean bitch
what comic are you reading? Or are you actually buying the whole "I'm wacky so my rude and destructive behavior is just funny, not mean?"

Actualy wasn't Carla specifically the character who had the speech about not wanting to have to be a model minority and "everyone else gets to get away with being an asshole, so I'm gonna too?"

so, by definition, mean bitch.
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>>83269323
No.
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>>83269361

*but her parents are also huge shitlords so we're supposed to hate all of them regardless.
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>>83269000
>Random murder done without the victim's awareness is a pretty rare circumstance
look at how many school shootings happened in the United States. It's not That rare.

>you can't count on police getting your stuff back, you can't even count on them investigating in many cases
Assuming things work as they should, the police will at least try to do their job, and whatever outcome will be better than risk losing your life.
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>>83269309
18 out of 100k people are shot to death in Brazil every damn year. Know the equivalent statistic for America, what you're clearly trying to claim is shooting central? 3 out of 100k.
You're a moron. Gun control clearly doesn't work in your country
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>>83269361
>Not having a single parent
SHE'S THE DEVIL! I BET HER PARENTS HAD HER AFTER MARRIAGE!
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>>83269390
Oh, no, Mary's parents won't talk. Hell, they won't even be seen. They'll just be referred to as still being together.

Because Willis can't write happy marriages. Whenever two characters in "Shortpacked" got married, they were written out of the comic.

>>83269414
>I bet her mother didn't even attempt suicide!
>Yeah, and I know for a fact that her father only had the nicest things to say to her when growing up!
>What a whore!
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>>83269309
All firearms purchases through a dealer require a background check, private sales do not require a background check but it is illegal to knowingly sell a firearm to someone who is barred from owning one. Machine guns are tightly regulated and registered in the USA and cost at minimum several thousand dollars with most being in the $20,000 dollar range.
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>>83269021
>thats why 2/3 vids from brazil are of a gun getting his bike jacked by a guy with a gun
...and then the thief gets killed by the crime lord for using his gun on stupid shit.

Unless they are going to steal at least a car, they don't use guns. Unless it's a very stupid crimminal. I'm not saying it "doesn't happen", but retarded gun crimes did decrease.

>Since Mass shootings in America are often stopped with a normal person's gun
stopped After the shooter killed people, obviously, with a gun he shouldn't even have in the first place if you had better laws.

>Why should I allow someone to steal from me
so you don't risk getting yourself killed, with or without a gun. Call the police.
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>>83269393
Police in America are under no obligation to help you
>look at how many school shootings happened in the United States. It's not That rare
Literally less than 1% of murders
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>>83269356
I only found out about this dude an hour ago and I already see red flags.
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>>83269393

>look at how many school shootings happened in the United States. It's not That rare.

It isn't nearly as common as you actually think it is, and the number of people killed in school shootings over the decades is statistically insignificant for a country the size of the US. The media just sensationalizes it because that's what brings in the viewers (and one could also argue the manner in which school shootings are reported on only encourages more of them, but that's another conversation entirely).
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Theory time!

Mary's was at one point a Lesbian or Bi.
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>>83269153
>Please explain to me how it's easier for a 100 pound woman to defend herself from a 200 pound prospective rapist when there are no guns involved and no one else is around to help her
explain to me how a gun would help her in this situation, if both of them have guns. Hell, the guy doesn't even need a gun in this situation.

Without a gun she can at least try to run. That's the difference.
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>>83269309
>You can't deny that in the United States you can get gun without any kind of background check in some states, and literally walk with a machine gun on the streets.
Guess what, the ones committing the gun crimes aren't legal gun owners. That guy with the machine gun walking down the street isn't going to go on a shooting spree. Do you know who is committing the vast majority of gun violence? Criminals who obtained their weapons illegally. It's why places like Chicago or Washington D.C. that have effectively banned firearms are some of the worst cities in the country in regards to gun violence.

>murder rate =/= gun related violence.
What's the point of eliminating gun related violence if the fucking murder rate is still just as bad? You just clearly illustrated that it's not the guns that are the problem here and that banning guns isn't a good solution for stemming violence in general.
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>>83269393
Actual school shootings or the discharging of a firearm in a situation that can somehow be associated with a school no matter how tenuous or irrelevant the connection that are passed around as school shootings?
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>>83269525

>I only found out about this dude an hour ago

Oh boy, you're in for a fucking ride.
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>>83269565
in b4 in turns out she knew Carla before college and had feelings for him pre-transition
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>>83269565
No, she is a pure Maiden
>>83269586
nothing is stopping her from running with a gun
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>>83269322
between gun and men, only one of those are necessary for mankind.
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>>83269616
That's also a very likely thing.

>>83269631
She is pure FOR Maidens.
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>>83269631
No no, he's right. Having a gun solves nothing.

Better for her to just lie back, spread her legs, and think of England.
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>>83269616
Man, that'd be a great story, which means it can't happen. It'd make Mary too human and relatable when she's supposed to be pure unadulterated evil.
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>>83243200

That's right. Carla is a male.
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>>83269662
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>83269647
Guns?
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>>83269687
"assigned male at birth" is the proper terminology for a woman like Carla.
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>>83256517
>local autist arrested today after going up to passersby asking if they want their legs or dicks chopped off.
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>>83269614
I think I might read it now.
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>>83269565
Better theory, Mary was in love with Carla's prior self only to be spurned and humiliated. Now in college she can't help but be angry that the now Carla doesn't even recognize her.

>>83269586
She could shoot him for starters. Even if they both have guns she's still equalized the force disparity. And there is nothing stopping her from running even though she has a gun.
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I just want all this to stop and have Carla and Mary be friends!
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>>83269586

>explain to me how a gun would help her in this situation, if both of them have guns.

It depends entirely on the context of the attempted assault/rape. If it's a break-in, having a gun could be the difference between life and death.

>Hell, the guy doesn't even need a gun in this situation.

You're right, he wouldn't need a gun to overpower someone with such a huge physical disadvantage. He also likely wouldn't expect a vulnerable young woman to be packing, which would be an advantage in her favor.
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>>83239231
Has Carla obtained Mary's consent for all of this? I'd hate to learn that a character as beloved as Carla would impose upon Mary, who is a WOMAN, in such a manner without first getting explicit, enthusiastic, verbal consent.
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>>83269796
don't. no part of this is actually enjoyable. You'll be wasting your time, and angry at us for wasting it.

The enjoyment of the hate is not worth the cost of the hate. leave while you can.
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>>83269518
>filthy brazilian ignoring the posts pointing out that his country is a shithole where people get murdered with firearms roughly six times more often than the USA
Gun control definitely works guys
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>>83269796
Here, I'll sum it up for you.
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>>83269761
No it's not, AMB is the proper terminology for someone who is intersex or born with ambiguous genitalia who was raised as male.
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>>83269855
>I'm gonna present a /pol/loc/k/ black flag as a legit anti-gun propaganda
not cool, dude.
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>>83269761
I believe "dude" is the word your looking for.
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>>83269908
It works for what this idiot is saying
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>>83269908

Why not, I'm arguing with a troll or a willfully ignorant hue anyway.
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>>83269796
Don't make the same mistake as me. I read this because I got the minor impression here that it was somewhat enjoyable for the "lols" and now I'm here. Complaining and reading about something I don't even like. But coming in these threads and bitching about what happens entertains me for some unexplained reason.
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>>83269876
>>83269903
>>83269980
Yeah, I'm like ten strips in and I'm already annoyed.
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>>83267654
>>83267756
I wonder how much that laser light show cost Carla's parents?
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>>83269904
If the literature says that, then the literature needs to be updated to reflect reality. Everyone is assigned a gender at birth, most of us are fortunate enough for the assignment to be correct, but some of us aren't.

>>83269935
No it's not and it's spelled "dood", dood.
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>>83270023
Just a small loan I'm sure.
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>>83270001
Do what I do. Ignore these threads and the webcomic until something piques your interest.
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>>83269980
It's the camaraderie and the fact that we can shit out better dialogue, plots, and comedy in a fraction of the time it takes Willis to make these things. For me DoA threads are one big writing exercise.

Also I'm a sucker for multiverses so I keep thinking of AUs.
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>>83270093
AU's that aren't bathed in Kool-Aid?
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>>83269399
Comparing with other countries won't really tell if the law is helping or not.

As i said, very few of those homicides are for "retarded reasons". It's true that in Brasil if the guy will rob your car, he will use a gun and kill you. But this situation simply won't happen as much for petty crimes.

Most of those deaths are related to drugs. Some of those are even the death of crimminals. So basically, the fact that not anyone can have guns changes the way gun related violence happens in Brasil. There is a difference of a kid shooting in a school and a drug lord fighting over territory, and gun laws at least help prevent one of those.
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>>83268200
>Now she has no control, and she's compeletly irrational.
But see, this wouldn't be a win for Carla if Mary just looked at Carla with disdain for being a fucking child and went back into her room to wipe the pie off her face.
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>>83245727

You're right. Those are logical and rational courses of action to take in such scenarios.

But this is David Willis. Logic and rationality and him are not on familiar terms. True, Ross SHOULD have done all that. But that wouldn't fit with the reality HE alone perceives. Walky wants to justify the vendetta he has against his own parents. Therefore Ross, being a parent, has to act in such a manner in order to rationalize Walky's "Parents are Evil" mindset
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>>83269512
>private sales do not require a background check but it is illegal to knowingly sell a firearm to someone who is barred from owning one
So let me get this straight: if you don't know anything to the guy you're selling the gun, you're fine and there is nothing illegal about it. You can sell a gun to literally anyone as long as they don't tell you their personal information, and you think that's any better?

>Machine guns are tightly regulated and registered in the USA and cost at minimum several thousand dollars with most being in the $20,000 dollar range
so basically: "yes, you can walk around with a machine gun".
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>>83270093
>camaraderie
I find us more as a motley crew.
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>>83245916

In a nutshell, yes.

This is how the minds of Walky's kind works.
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>>83269522
>>83269563
>Literally less than 1% of murders
literally every year.

If you had a terrorist attack every year, do you think it would not be relevant, regardles of % of people that died? One plane gets two buildings down and they go apeshit over it.

>Police in America are under no obligation to help you
that's a really fucked up police then.
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>>83270082
No, they're rich as hell, so they can afford to finance all their child's insanity, including this shit with the pie and holograms.
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>>83270093
This - the edits are the best part really.

/co/ can take this shit and actually make it readable, emotional, and actually engaging.


Example. Original
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Edit
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>>83269590
>the ones committing the gun crimes aren't legal gun owners
no, but they aquire the gun from people that got them legally. It's obvious that if you don't let the idiots get the gun legally, there won't be guns ilegally as well.

>It's why places like Chicago or Washington D.C. that have effectively banned firearms are some of the worst cities in the country in regards to gun violence.
it doesn't work if only one part of the country bans it. That's obvious too.
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>>83270339

Stop ignoring the people calling you out for being willfully ignorant of your own country's gun death statistics.
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>>83269631
>nothing is stopping her from running with a gun
the guy with a gun will be stopping her from running with a gun.

And guess what? now he has two guns.
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>>83270370
>>83270413

And Willis hated those edits.

Apparently it ending with Becky reaffirming herself as an obnoxious cunt is a better ending to him than her feeling real fucking emotions.
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>>83270339
>If you had a terrorist attack every year, do you think it would not be relevant, regardles of % of people that died?
I dunno.


... ask France.
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>>83246293
Clark was also a fucking alien from another planet, not a fence hopper or 'child refugee', so the situation changes here.
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>>83246199

The Kents are Walky-level strawmen. And he's trying to paint anyone who might actually have some love for their country in a negative light.
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>>83270460
Ive got to think youre retarded now
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>>83269742
Wrong!

try again. I will give you another chance.

>>83269802
>She could shoot him for starters
how will she do that with a guy pointing a gun to her head and telling her to get down? of course the guy that planned the attack will have the upper hand.

In this situation it's even more likely that even without a gun, he will be able to overpower her before she can act. It won't help to do shit.

>And there is nothing stopping her from running even though she has a gun
if the guy has a gun, he will stop her from running with his gun.
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>>83270474
>And Willis hated those edits.
That's the icing on the fucking cake.

I mean he didn't just hate them, IIRC he wrote like a three page blog rant about people disrespecting his "art" by making edits that went against his "vision" or some shit.

That's hysterical.
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So how does he make Mary completely likable/understandable without going over the limit?

Like, I only read this comic when I see a thread on /co/, but 100% of the time, in all strips even where she's supposed to be the villain, I am 100% agreeing with her.

You'd think he'd go over the top at some point to be a bigger strawman, like make her a racist or have her actively trying to hurt people or something dumb, but he keeps her within reason and 100% agreeable, I just don't get it
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>>83266958
>>83270538
You can't have it both ways...

Either the majority of criminals who threaten to use guns have no intention of actually using them... or the majority of criminals who threaten to use guns are unstoppable psychopaths and nothing, not even having a gun of your own will stop them.


So which is it?
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>>83269457

Kind of like how all of Willis's friends got married and left him behind until he was all alone.
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>>83270549
>in all strips even where she's supposed to be the villain, I am 100% agreeing with her.
Because you're a sane, normal human being, and as you're reading this you're thinking to yourself, "Wow... these are all 18-20 year olds in college, so why is Mary the only one acting even remotely like a fucking adult?"
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>>83269855
>It depends entirely on the context of the attempted assault/rape
true. But if you are at home, it's even easier to run away, hide, lock the doors and call the police, and if you're not at home guns will be useless.

>He also likely wouldn't expect a vulnerable young woman to be packing
let's not count with his stupidity.

>>83269882
responded to it
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>>83270158
The most common cause of gun deaths in America is suicide, not murder. Street gangs make up 22% of all firearm homicides per year.

School shootings make up less than 1% of all homicide victims.

>>83270156
Depends on the AU.
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>>83267306

This calls for defenestration
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>>83270702
>let's not count with his stupidity.
Im counting on yours right now, and it hasnt failed me.
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>>83270158
>very few of those homicides are for "retarded reasons"
Which is the same for the USA
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>>83270543
And his "vision" was outright stated to be the narrative bending over backwards to give Becky a happy ending.

Becky doesn't even need to DO anything. She's just handed it on a silver platter. She's handed EVERYTHING she wants on a silver platter.
She sits there and does jack shit to stop her Dad, and yet is rewarded for her bravery in doing... fucking nothing.
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>>83247685
It's called an inalienable right for a reason. As in, you have a *natural* right to defend yourself, one that is inherent to your existence, and subsequently has specific legal status guaranteeing it. You have the privilege to drive a car, and it is one you have to earn and pay for. You do not have a right to drive a car.

Firearm ownership in the USA is not a privilege. It is a right. This is what complicates attempts to "regulate" guns (besides the fact that gun-owners keep being asked to "Compromise" their human right without even getting anything in return, thus pushing them towards justified paranoia). The 1st and second Amendments are a packaged deal; You have the right to free speech, and if that is infringed you have the right to defend yourself. If you don't have the right to defend yourself, your right to free speech matters jack shit on the bell-curve.

Statistically, dumbshits in Florida bickering over beer and red-state parents giving their toddlers hello kitty pistols are irrelevant. Likewise, many of the proposed regulations that are repeatedly trotted out do nothing to actually affect the black-market for firearms which fuels a majority of gun crime in the country.

Ineffectual cosmopolitan liberals like Horsey (who acts like they were queer-bashed in an Indiana Locker-room yet grew up in cities like Seattle) have an irrational fear and paranoia of guns and gun ownership because their political sensibilities and cultural values are completely removed from the realities of firearm ownership, maintenance, use, and care. Their political sensibilities also blind them to the philosophical and political significance of firearm ownership. As statists, they literally cannot conceive of the soft-power that an armed populace projects through ownership alone. This makes them inherently unreliable commentators on such issues.
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>>83270422
>no, but they aquire the gun from people that got them legally
You do realize gun trafficking is a thing, right? Hell, does anyone even remember Operation Fast and Furious?

>it doesn't work if only one part of the country bans it. That's obvious too.
So what, are those places going to magically stop being violent shitholes once guns are banned?
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>>83270702

>But if you are at home, it's even easier to run away, hide, lock the doors and call the police

You know what's even easier? Blowing the intruder the fuck out with a shotgun.
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>>83270659
people have less time to dick around on their Transformers RP forums when they're married and have kids.
Willis's wife is an enabler, or he'd never have bothered. His toys are more important to him than his wife or kids.
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>>83270441
i believe i already responded to the post. Since many people are replying, don't expect a reasonable time between answers.

>>83270634
>Either the majority of criminals who threaten to use guns have no intention of actually using them... or the majority of criminals who threaten to use guns are unstoppable psychopaths and nothing, not even having a gun of your own will stop them
The point is not about "the majority". It's that both circumstances can happen, and they could be avoided without guns, and in one of them guns will be completely useless.

The point is that guns will never actually save your life no matter the situation. They may save your stuff, but only if you risk your life to do so which is not a reasonable thing to do.
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>>83270926
>The point is that guns will never actually save your life no matter the situation
This is demonstrably false
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>>83270795
defense is inalienable. Gun ownership is not. Whether or not the constitution as written currently allows it doesn't matter, as the constitution has been amended before.
He asked what a reasonable regulation might be, and that's an example.

Because like the right to free speech, it isn't absolute. there are tons of regulations on speech. Arguably there are currently more regulations on speech than on gun ownership.

also, go back to /k/. This is neither the time nor place.
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>>83270926

>The point is that guns will never actually save your life no matter the situation.

Okay folks, we are officially beyond the event horizon.
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>>83270976
>also, go back to /k/. This is neither the time nor place.

not >>83270795, but you sound like a huge faggot for posting a shitty argument THEN saying "go back to /k/"
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>>83270976
>defense is inalienable. Gun ownership is not
So tell me, how are we expected to defend ourselves from the strongest military power in the world without any firearms? Sticks and rocks?

>God made some men bigger and stronger than others but Mr. Colt made all men equal.
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>>83270713
>Street gangs make up 22% of all firearm homicides per year. School shootings make up less than 1% of all homicide victims
I think that sums it up better; gun laws help, but not with any kind of homicide.

>>83270788
>Which is the same for the USA
and would be even less with the ban.
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>>83270976

In a world where guns exist, gun ownership is necessary to properly ensure one's ability to defend oneself. And since it's impossible to stuff that little invention back into Pandora's Box...
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>>83240405

i'm so mad because it's not that hard to get a copy of your birth certificate
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>>83245313
I think that's a penis that somebody hastily tried to cover up with a smiley.
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>>83271123
>and would be even less with the ban.
No, it wouldn't. Stop pretending you have any kind of high ground here. Despite your country's gun laws the average citizen is far more likely to be shot than in the US.
Gun laws clearly aren't helping you out there
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>>83270272
It merely protects you from criminal liability. A lot of times private sellers will sell the gun on consignment or transfer through an FFL so a background check is done anyways. In my experience most private sellers will only sell to people with current gun permits, as it means they're allowed to possess firearms.

>>83270339
Fifteen people per year.

>>83270370
The original could have been salvaged by ending it at panel 8.

>>83270538
Men aren't needed, they can take genetic material from two ova, combine them in a lab, reinsert the material back into one, and produce a zygote. The resulting offspring will always be female.

Also, how is this guy putting a gun to her head with her reacting?

>>83270549
Mary is a fairly realistic portrayal of a judgmental, bigoted, low-key asshole. Carla and Ruth are not.
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>>83270976
>defense is inalienable. Gun ownership is not.

Alright then, you versus me. I get a gun, you
get a knife. Let's see who wins:^)

>Whether or not the constitution as written currently allows it doesn't matter, as the constitution has been amended before.

Free Speech doesn't matter either, we can just amend it away. You're under arrested for disagreeing with me. The Gestapo will be at your apartment in ten minutes.

But I'm sure you'll be able to fend them off with your mace:^)
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>>83271206
>they can take genetic material from two ova, combine them in a lab, reinsert the material back into one, and produce a zygote.
Literally never been done
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>>83270797
>You do realize gun trafficking is a thing, right
i do, but it's hardly the only way people aquire guns illegally. Hell, it's even easier to steal the gun from someone that you know got it legally, or from someone that got it legally and that can literally just sell to you without background check.

>are those places going to magically stop being violent shitholes once guns are banned
As i was discussing before, it depends on the kind of gun violence. Of course it won't stop everything, but yeah; it will help. It will actually only make it possible through trafficking, which is more expensive than getting the gun in your own country easily.

>>83270798
>You know what's even easier? Blowing the intruder the fuck out with a shotgun
that's easy for him to do as well, so don't count with luck. You won't be a hero; you will be a corpse.
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>>83271117
You actually don't have a human right to armed resistance of the government, no convention on human rights have recognized that. You have a human right to attempt to protect yourself against physical attack at the time of the attack, against the person attacking you. If you have a gun, great. If not, you can still try legally.

Gun ownership is a legal right granted by the constitution, and can be taken away by that same document. I actually agree that you have the right to individual ownership based on the second amendment. But the very fact that it's an amendment means that it was added to the constitution, and is not an inherent part of the document, even if the bill of rights was added very early.

It's not inalienable. It's a right you lucked into by being born in the right country. You want to make it a human right, great, but as of yet, that's not the case.
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>>83271274

>that's easy for him to do as well

Home field advantage.
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>>83270948
>>83271063
>This is demonstrably false
on the rare occasion that you will be faster than the guy that is already pointing the gun at you, yes. You may stop him.

On the other 99% of the cases that you don't move like kind of actor in a movie, you're dead.

He will litearally just point the gun to your head, and shoot.
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>>83271200
>average citizen
people involved with drugs aren't "the average citizen".

People killed in school shootings are.
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>>83271328
>never actually save your life
>well um maybe sometimes it will save your life
Make up your mind mate
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>>83271274
>that's easy for him to do as well
Still better to have a chance than be the one without the gun. I'm sure all the people that successfully defended themselves with their legal firearms are glad they had them.
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>>83271217
Free speech is already gone, chuckles. Unless you think a peaceful assembly being coraled by police and forced to protest 2 miles away from the subject they wish to protest has "free speech."

and that's despite the fact that it actually IS an inalienable human right.

http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/
Free speech is on this list.
Gun ownership is not.
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>>83271359
>hurr the only victims of gun crime in Brazil is criminals
Even when accounted for that, more innocents are shot in your shithole than kids are shot in american schools
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>>83271206
>Men aren't needed
they are part of humanity. The entire argument is wrong to begin with, as you can't take away people arguing they are not necessary 'for themselves'.
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>>83271233
It's been done successfully with mice.
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>>83271416
>the UN
The UN is a bunch of sissys and fags
Its inalienable because if you try to take away my guns, Im going to shoot you
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>>83271465
I'm sorry are people mice now
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>>83270976
>Whether or not the constitution as written currently allows it doesn't matter, as the constitution has been amended before
Name a single amendment that removes a right from the original document. There isn't a single one nor should there be. The amendments are meant to add to the Constitution or amend amendments that aren't part of the Bill of Rights. If that weren't the case, there would be no point in having the original document if lawmakers could simply snip out anything that tickled their fancy.
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>>83271328

I'm convinced at this point that you're either trolling or completely delusional. Possibly both.
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>>83267387
Carla was holding it before. How Mary ended up with it, Whu?
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>>83239231

Like maybe, but she's not supposed to be the 'right' one or anything.

Just cause Willis gets bitchy when you defend Mary doesn't mean this isn't a comic filled with a bunch of punk college kids being punks.
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>>83271328
>On the other 99% of the cases that you don't move like kind of actor in a movie, you're dead.

But the intruder has these reflexes?
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>>83271502
ok, the comics were posted out of order, I see that she was given the box
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>>83267306
I'll just leave this here then.
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>>83271565
She just wanted to study in peace
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>>83271312
>Home field advantage
advantage =/= certainty. There is plenty to account for, so it's not something you want to risk, instead of just calling the cops.

>>83271374
don't strawman; the point of the argument is not to deal with absolutes; of course it will never be 100%. Hell, you could be a black belt, infinite dan, double-bronze-dragon karate master and kill the guy before he pulls the trigger with your bare hands, but in a reasonable situation, you don't expect that to happen. If the guy wants to kill you, he will just shoot you to the face and a gun won't help you at all. You will not be always prepared, and you will not have an eye on your back.

>>83271396
>Still better to have a chance than be the one without the gun
or.. you know.. call the cops, hide/lock your door/get out of the house.
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>>83268101
They are the ones "looking for an excuse." they are the ones that will dox another transgender person that doesn't side with them because they are in the "right" even if it endangers that person.

People be missing the social niceties of "don't be an asshole."
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>Mary is a fairly realistic portrayal of a judgmental, bigoted, low-key asshole. Carla and Ruth are not.
At most Mary is a jerk, though she was clearly provoked, but Carla and Ruth are super-villains.
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>>83271619
And get shot while hiding/locking the door/getting out of the house?
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>>83271619
>or.. you know.. call the cops, hide/lock your door/get out of the house

That's right. Live in fear of your own home.
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>>83271619
>calling the cops=neutralized threat
avg response time of police is 8 minutes
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Have people on willis' forum or whatever figured out how this rube goldberg monstrosity is supposed to work?
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>>83269284
Hush, Willis
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>>83271565
YES!!! Wonderful!
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>>83271441
innocents are also shot in the USA in other circumstances as well, and those are comparable, but not the school shootings.
If you want to compare school shootings, that's fine. Almost zero happened in Brasil; i can only even think of one case, and they stopped the guy easily. The fact is, since people can't get guns anywhere, we don't have school shootings. So we're comparing 1% with 0%.

As i said, gun laws are helpful, just not for every case.
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>>83271532
I'm not considering you're on the safety of your home, but on the street while a guy that don't like you blow your brains.

If you are at home, you can, as i said before, run/hide/call the cops/lock yourself, so it's hardly a life or death situation.
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>>83271632

God I love Taskmaster.
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>>83271619
>call the cops
You do realize it takes time for them to respond, right? By the time it takes for them to get there you could already be dead. That's like seeing someone suffocating and waiting on the paramedics to arrive and preform the Heimlich maneuver rather than doing it yourself.
>hide/lock your door/get out of the house
Better to have a gun in case they're able to get past your locked door or follow you if you try to leave. At least you'll be able to defend yourself if you have no other option.
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>>83271756
But if you have a gun you can do that AND have protection for when it becomes a life or death situation.
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>>83271619
>don't strawman
I didn't.
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>>83271726
>we don't have school shootings
>but we're still far more likely to get shot
Sounds like a great tradeoff
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>>83271651
much less likely to happen when you're not running towards the guy robbing your house

>>83271658
or die like a dog risking your neck.

>>83271675
>neutralized
no, but they can recover your stuff afterwards.
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>>83271294
>>83271416

Articles 3, 12, and 21 and backed by Articles 28 and 30 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights disagree with you.

>>83271374
Don't bother. He's arguing for actively aiding criminals committing crimes against people while holding said people morally responsible for the criminal's actions. He's also arguing that criminals will always have the upperhand and that firearm homicide rate six times higher than the USA's is not only better, but also indicative of the effectiveness of gun laws.
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>>83271619
>If the guy wants to kill you, he will just shoot you to the face and a gun won't help you at all.
If it's a case where the criminal is dead set on killing you, would you rather have a gun or be defenseless? Would you rather have that 1-in-1000 chance that you get off the first shot or the other guy misses and you don't and you somehow manage to survive... or would you rather just drop to your knees and surrender to death like all those poor fucking bastards at the Bataclan Theater in Paris who literally surrendered to death and just stood their in the theater for twenty minutes while the gunmen went around shooting hostages one by one?

If a man breaks into your home while your family is there, are you going to stand and defend your family, or let put yourself and your loved ones at their mercy?
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>>83271837
or I can keep my stuff and kill the guy trying to take it, becuase he shouldnt do that and this is how he learns that
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>>83271837
>but they can recover your stuff
Or not.
Or you could get shot when they find you defenseless.
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I nominate this Brazilian for the biggest retard on /co/ right now.
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>>83271726
>Brazil
>The fact is, since people can't get guns anywhere, we don't have school shootings

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

>Country - Rank - Intentional homicides per capita
>Brazil - 25.2 per 100k
>USA - 3.8 per 100k

Awesome! Less school shootings and only a 700% greater probability of being murdered! Where do I sign up to immigrate?
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>>83271565
Saved
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>>83271726
Wellington Oliveira killed 12 in a school shooting in Realengo, Rio de Janeiro in 2011. Your police have also been accused by the UN of killing children in the streets.
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>>83271783
>By the time it takes for them to get there you could already be dead
my options are cumulative. Don't do only one. Hell, do all of them. Run while trying to find a place to hide and lock yourself, with the phone, while you call the police.

>>83271790
There are too many hypothetical scenarios to think of. I won't argue that in some scenario a gun might help. But i will defend, however, that it is unlikely to happen. Not only that, having a gun may rush the 'worst case scenario', that is direct confrontation. I cannot think of anyone that wouldn't at least consider shooting first if they have a gun, but that's not the best option.

>>83271834
except that we are more likely to get shot because of unrelated issues, while not getting school shootings for something actually related to gun laws.
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>>83272096
>my options are cumulative
So what's wrong with adding a legal firearm for defense on top of all that? No one said if you had a gun you literally had to go in guns blazing with no self preservation in mind. If you have the time, you can easily call the police, lock your doors, and keep your gun ready.
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>>83247211
Sadly, to the opposition, a group is defined by it's stupidest retard.

Gun owners will be defined by the idiots who let a child fire off an Uzi, comic fans will be defined by the nitwits who burned the new Captain America because he's HYDRA, anime fans are defined by the virgins who live in mommy's basement with Onaholes and bodypillows, ect.
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>>83271777
He's the best. I really wish he had a series that didn't focus on Memento memory bullshit.
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>>83254438

Mary got a pie to the face.

But Carla is still a man.

So I think we all know who won this round.
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>>83271856
>If it's a case where the criminal is dead set on killing you, would you rather have a gun or be defenseless
it would be useless to have a gun and expect for a miracle, and if you're expecting a miracle you might as well expect it without a gun, trying to physically stop him. Actually, considering the time it would take to take your gun and shoot him, it's even better to resort to physical confrontation. Hell, perhaps you would even be able to talk your way out of the situation depending on how it plays. Anyway, most likely having a gun on that occasion just means the crimminal will get an additional gun after he kills you.

>If a man breaks into your home while your family is there
the 'home' scenario is a little different. It's actually much better, since you can hide, run, call the police, or lock yourself; all options that may be better than direct confrontation. Even in this case, the gun would just be a last resort, and not guaranteed to work.

>>83271887
Well, if you think your stuff is more important than your life..

>>83271911
>Or you could get shot when they find you defenseless
it's much harder to shoot you when you're not going their way.
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>>83271565
Someone stick the edit on imgur and "leak" it in the comment section.
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>>83267306

Yeah I don't get this either.

Okay, it's his name. Is this supposed to be some sort of awesome victorious moment of validation or something?
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>>83271979

>Less school shootings and only a 700% greater probability of being murdered
only if you are involved with drugs

And as already explained, crimminal rate in Brasil occur because of plenty of other issues. The '0%' from school shootings occurs because of the gun laws. It's simple, we don't let kids get guns and they don't shoot each other in school.

>>83272094
>Wellington Oliveira killed 12 in a school shooting in Realengo, Rio de Janeiro in 2011
If you follow the posts, i explained it is 'close to 0%', and even said i remember one case.

>Your police have also been accused by the UN of killing children in the streets
unrelated
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>>83267306
I knew something retarded like this was going to happen and it still pissed me off. I did expect the lights to say "bitch" or "cunt!" but the fact they spell his/her own name is so fucking stupid, and the fact the author thinks this cool is super cringey.
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>>83272096
>restricting citizens access to means of defending themselves against the rampant criminal element is a good thing because it prevents a tiny fraction of gun related deaths that another country has
Surely you're not actually this retarded
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>>83272288
Actually confronting a criminal with a firearm is the safest method of confronting them, as criminals don't want to get shot either. Trying to talk them down results in a greater risk of injury than fist fighting them.

And, assuming you actually work for a living, your stuff is representative of your life. If you make $7.25 an hour and someone robs you of $2000 dollars worth of possessions then you've lost the monetary equivalent of 11 days.
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>>83272158
>what's wrong with adding a legal firearm for defense on top of all that
the fact that people can get that firearm to commit crimes and school shootings just so you can 'feel safe' when it's actually adding close to nothing to your survival.
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>>83272288
>it would be useless to have a gun and expect for a miracle, and if you're expecting a miracle you might as well expect it without a gun
People like you inevitably get yourselves and a lot of innocent people hurt because you're so completely fucking hopeless that in a life or death situation your go-to option is to lie down and just wait for death.
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>>83271416
It also says I'm entitled to security (which guns provide), non-discrimination of the law (so the 2nd Amendment should apply everywhere in the US), freedom from arbitrary interference in my privacy (like not having cops check my house for weapons), the right to own property (like guns), a right to leisure (hunting, target practice, shooting competitions), free to participate in the cultural life of the community (like all those places that love guns), and the will of the people is the basis of government (if people want to keep guns, they keep them).
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>>83272428
>only if you are involved with drugs
Every fucking vacation season they find a couple dozen tourists hacked to death in Rio.
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>>83256517
I know if you asked 100 men, each and every one of them would have to think about it.
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>>83272428
It should be noted that the Wellington shooting is special because it's the first non-gang related school shooting. And considering the USA's rate of children being shot by police because the solution to child homelessness is murder rate is 0%, unlike Brazil where it happens enough that UN investigations are being carried out, it's pretty fucking pertinent in a discussion of gun violence.
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>>83272548
Thought about it. I'll keep the dick, thank you very much.
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>>83272428
>only if you are involved with drugs
So you're telling me a whopping 1/4 of the entire population of Brazil is involved with drugs? And you think the US should take a lesson from Brazil on ANYTHING if your country is that fucked up?

>It's simple, we don't let kids get guns and they don't shoot each other in school.
Or maybe they're too busy getting shot everywhere else to do it at school. Regardless, having few school shootings is not an achievement when the rest of your country is filled with normal shootings. You're putting the chicken before the egg here.

>Your police have also been accused by the UN of killing children in the streets
>unrelated
So the only people you supposedly trust to have guns aren't using them properly and you say it's unrelated?
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>>83272470
that is not what i said at all

>>83272475
>Actually confronting a criminal with a firearm is the safest method of confronting them
considering that in most cases they only want to take your stuff, no. Forcing a confrontation is actually the only way you could get hurt. The scenarios are very hypothetical, but i doubt trying to shoot someone is the best way to avoid getting shot at, and if they actually planned to kill you, i doubt they won't expect you to try something like that.

I just think it's best not to count with his stupidity; "the crimminal will never expect it" is not a good way to start.

>If you make $7.25 an hour and someone robs you of $2000 dollars worth of possessions then you've lost the monetary equivalent of 11 days
Even if we could consider that valid, which i don't think it is, it's not worth to bet your life on it; and if the police actually do their job, you get your stuff back.
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>>83272486
Considering that gun control groups put defensive gun usage at an extreme low end of 55,000 incidents a year compared to 8,454 gun homicides per year, I'd say you're wrong.
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>>83272486
It gives you a better chance of survival that running and hiding. Notice all of the mass shootings thus far happened in gun free zones.
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>>83272699
I want you to know I find it hilarious that you're talking about Brazil when you're saying things like criminals aren't going to hurt you and that the police will do their job. I'm going to assume that you're a very rich, sheltered person living in a walled, guarded neighborhood.
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>>83272487
what is one expected to do, when there is nothing to do but get shot to the head? i mean, "people like me"? like in, 'people that don't react instinctively to avoid the bullet and then proceed to defeat the killer'?

>>83272540
that's a minority. The majority of people dying are because of trouble with drugs. And sadly enough, even those deaths of tourists are indirectly related to drugs

>>83272611
>it's pretty fucking pertinent in a discussion of gun violence
discussing gun violence of the people that we actually expect to carry guns is useless. Gun laws won't take guns from them. We may discuss how to make a better police, not how to take guns from them.

>>83272697
> you're telling me a whopping 1/4 of the entire population of Brazil is involved with drugs
i think you messed up your calculations

>you think the US should take a lesson from Brazil on ANYTHING if your country is that fucked up
oh, you guys are killing your kids in school just fine.

>having few school shootings is not an achievement when the rest of your country is filled with normal shootings
when the part of the shootings that we can control by law are are avoided by the simple regulamentation, of course it matters. Let me put it simple to you: allowing guns would not make a difference when drug lords are fighting for territory and killing people. It would make a difference, however, for every other act of gun violence that would normally occur if we allowed guns.

>the only people you supposedly trust to have guns aren't using them properly and you say it's unrelated
gun laws can't stop cops from having guns. You can argue we should have better cops, not that the cops shouldn't have guns. So yeah, unrelated.
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>>83273015
If the police didn't have guns, then they couldn't shoot children in the streets. By taking guns from them they would be better police.
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>>83273015
>i think you messed up your calculations
I looked up the numbers. As the previous anon said, Brazil's homicide rate is 25%. The gun violence rate is something around 18%. That's slightly less than 1/4 but that's still fucking huge for a country.

>oh, you guys are killing your kids in school just fine.
I'd rather our problem be a handful of kids at schools die rather than the whole fucking country be a crime-ridden shithole

>when the part of the shootings that we can control by law are are avoided by the simple regulamentation, of course it matters. Let me put it simple to you: allowing guns would not make a difference when drug lords are fighting for territory and killing people. It would make a difference, however, for every other act of gun violence that would normally occur if we allowed guns.
Not exactly something you can prove outside your precious school shooting rate when there hasn't been a time where Brazil had the gun regulations and not be a crime-ridden shithole.

>gun laws can't stop cops from having guns. You can argue we should have better cops, not that the cops shouldn't have guns. So yeah, unrelated.
But by banning guns for personal defense, you're depending on the police for protection by keeping them in their hands. Obviously they're not doing a good job so the whole point of only allowing cops to have them is rendered moot.
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>>83272726
If you follow the posts, we were discussing the possibilities when "there is nothing else to do", as in a situation that you would most likely get killed. In most cases, there is no real necessity of a gun because your life is not actually in risk, only your stuff. I doubt those incidents took into account if the crimminal was only trying to get stuff, or actually trying to kill the person. I believe the argument was something like "if they want to rob you, there is no need for guns, only the police. If they want to kill you, guns won't help you, they will just shoot you to the face".
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>>83273193
>Brazil's homicide rate is 25%. The gun violence rate is something around 18%
Those numbers are way off you fucking retard. Do you actually think 1/4 people in Brazil is murdered?
It's 25 out of 100000. Which is still fucking high, but there's no need to outright lie about the statistics to argue with this hue moron
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>>83272734
>Notice all of the mass shootings thus far happened in gun free zones
it's useless to have a gun free zone inside a country where guns are allowed. It only takes effect if you take away guns from the entire country; that should be obvious.

>>83272854
>you're saying things like criminals aren't going to hurt you and that the police will do their job
i didn't say they won't going to hurt you. I said that if they planned to hurt you, having a gun won't help. They will just shoot you. About the police doing their job, it's better to believe that (which actually happens in Brasil in some occasions) than getting shot to the head. It just means that your belongings are not necessarily lost forever.

What do you prefer, risking your life, or losing stuff and having a small chance of getting them back later?
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>>83273220
20% of homicides in the USA are felony murders, a death that occurs during the committing of or stemming from another criminal activity.
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>>83267306
So if Mary didn't grab the box for no reason, the whole revenge prank would have been lights just spelling "Carla." But, of course, Carla knew Mary would assume the box was some kind of protection field from a prank, grab the box, and pie her in the face. I forgot what it is called when one character seems to be able to predict and plan a chain of events too perfectly for it to be even quasi relatable/realistic, but its my least favorite thing in writing and always makes the author look dumber.
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>>83267306
Calling it now.

>Mary finally gets fed up with Carla's shit and snaps
>Yells at her and takes a swing at her
>Ruth out of nowhere stops her from punching Carla
>Reports her to dorm admins
>Dorm admins kick Mary out
>Becky gets Mary's room
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>>83273326
>I forgot what it is called when one character seems to be able to predict and plan a chain of events too perfectly for it to be even quasi relatable/realistic
it's called stop going to tvtropes
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>>83273092
they wouldn't be the police at all if they cannot uphold order. Guns are necessary for the profession.

And of course, the 'children being shot by the cops' is hardly a majority. It is barely an accountable number of cases, and the same thing happens in the United States.

>>83273193
>Brazil's homicide rate is 25%
you do realize that does not translates to 1/4 of the entire living population of the country, right?

>I'd rather our problem be a handful of kids at schools die rather than the whole fucking country be a crime-ridden shithole
OR, get advice from a country that doesn't have issues with kids getting killed at school to help the matter instead of pointing out they have other unrelated issues.

>Not exactly something you can prove outside your precious school shooting rate when there hasn't been a time where Brazil had the gun regulations and not be a crime-ridden shithole.
you mean that while being crime-ridden we have close to 0% school shootings? isn't that kind of the point for the law actually working? It won't stop drug lords, but it will be effective to everything else.

>Obviously they're not doing a good job
they are only 'not doing their job' in some very localized cases in Brasil, and even then it's the lack of police force, and not the fact that they "don't want to help". It's a big country. Anyway, not having guns makes them unable to be cops at all, so there is no point in discussing the gun laws for the police. You will need them regardless.
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>>83273299
If I'm the victim of a crime my life is already at risk. Your argument hinges on two assumptions, that a criminal will never harm you unless he's intentionally set out to murder you and that a criminal will always kill you if you attempt to resist.
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>>83273581
In the UK only special response teams are armed and they're only sent out in specific circumstances. Besides, criminals are only killing cops because the cops are threatening them with guns, so if they cops didn't have guns they wouldn't get shot.
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>>83273592
>If I'm the victim of a crime my life is already at risk
No. If someone wants to rob you, your life is not at risk as long as he doesn't find you, and you don't try anything stupid (and only then your life will be at risk).

>Your argument hinges on two assumptions, that a criminal will never harm you unless he's intentionally set out to murder you and that a criminal will always kill you if you attempt to resist
As i said before, it's highly hypothetical; the argument that "you will certainly die" was only used on the situation that you're not at home; but when a guy that planned to kill you just pointed a gun to your head and decided to shoot. Anyway, my argument is based on the uncertainty; Why risk your life instead of letting the guy go? having a gun is far from a solution. It is unlikely that someone that planned to rob you suddenly changes his mind and tries to kill you instead, IF he can catch you at all.
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>>83273700
>criminals are only killing cops because the cops are threatening them with guns
crimminals kill cops because they are supposed to interfere with crimes, not simply because they carry guns.
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>>83273723
>No. If someone wants to rob you, your life is not at risk as long as he doesn't find you
>Walking along street at night
>Thug walks up and pulls a gun
>IT'S OKAY! I'M NOT AT RISK AS LONG AS HE DOESN'T FIND ME!
You're an idiot.
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>>83273384
I took a writing course in community college and the professor used a specific phrase to describe it. It's not omniscient narrator, but it is close to that I think.
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>>83273834
Metaknowledge.
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>>83271117
>implying any kind of gun you own can protect you from the most powerful military on earth
I'm all for the second amendment and gun ownership, but it takes a immense amount of arrogance to think that you and your rifle are enough to defend yourself from the US military. If they want you dead, you're dead.
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>>83273881
Using drones to launch Hellfire missiles is only fun when it's not your infrastructure getting destroyed. Besides, it's not the military you're going to be fighting, there simply aren't enough soldiers to effectively police the country, it's going to be the various law enforcement agencies you're going to be fighting.
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>>83273923
I guess you have a point. I guess I was projecting other idiots ideas on you, since I've been in conversations like this where people actually do think the stand a chance against the actual military because they have a closet full of guns and they make their own ammo.
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>>83273881
See... the funny thing about a police state is that you can't enforce it through nuclear deterrents. You search a home with a tank or break up a protest in the city using hellfire missiles.

Inevitably you need boots on the ground enforcing whatever laws your police state abides by. Most cops and soldiers aren't going to go along with a police state, and the ones who'd be tempted to go along with it are going to think twice if between a third and half of everyone you're going to be pushing around is fucking armed.
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>>83271565
Now I kinda want someone to hack his site and replace the upcoming strip to in the buffer with this.
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>>83250661

Thing about slippery slopes is, that often they become true. Because people tend to NOT take just any inch theyve been given.

Like if they cave and change the Cleveland Indians because some people are offended, do you honestly think that will be the end of it? That no one might try to get the Fighting Irish or the New England Patriots changed because those offends them? Especially in this day and age of rampant oversensitivity?

You give people an inch and they WILL try to take a mile. Guaranteed.
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>>83273983
Are you saying you don't want to see some obese guy in a Chinese knock off plate carrier trying to snipe with .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer?
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>>83251354
>They aren't a "I win" card, they are an "You lose" card.

Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to
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>>83274145
It's like when you hear Europeans who're paranoid about the EU turning into some kind of quasi-one world government if they ever got too much economic power. And everyone said "No, no! You're just being paranoid! What a ridiculous slippery slope argument you're making."

And now the EU has an unelected parliament that has increasing authority over the spending, immigration laws, and social laws of member states (oftentimes more control than the country's elected officials have) and there's apparently been leaked documents showing the EU wants its own standing army now.
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>>83268112

A pendulum cannot swing in one direction indefinitely. Sooner or later people will finally have enough and push back
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>>83268197
>who flip the bird and grin.
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>>83268797

The UFO ending would feature Cosmos.
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