Civil War Thread (Spoilers)

>>82519790
same here
I don't understand when it went all so wrong
is it nolans fault?

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>>82519816
She's my waifu, but jesus christ she looks like an alien in there.

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>>82519816
lizzie is the best

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>>82519816
>mfw teary eyed Steve carrying the casket
>dat collective "oh no..." from the audience when he got the text and ran out

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Ant-Man is CUTE!

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>>82519816
>Wanda returns to prominence
Thank you Based Whedon.
Thank you Based Russos.

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>>82519868
I liked Lang in this movie a lot better than I did in Ant-Man. I felt bad for him when Tony was like "Who are you?"

I think I'm finally getting over the suffering of being a Pym fan.

>>82519870
do you think all the guys take turns with her, or do they all gangbang her at once?

>>82519894
That's BW's job.
Even Wanda takes turns with her.

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>>82519816
Improved slightly

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>>82519894
Everyone's too busy trying to get into Steve's boipussy

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>>82519894
They're all too afraid of her big metal friend.

>>82519891
It's Tony's thing to never notice the little guy (in this case the literally little guy) which is why Scott was able to fuck his shit up.

>>82519932
does vision have genitals?

>>82519870
Fuck you Cinemasins, Falcon is based and he was fantastic in Civil War

>that wing shield
>that Redwing
>that spinning double kick

>>82519940
He can still fist and eat ass, senpai.

>>82519940
Doesn't matter, he can penetrate you with any part of his body

>>82519868
All of his lines were pure gold, I love Paul Rudd

What's gonna happen to Vision with the whole Infinity Stone thing going on? Is thanos just gonna pluck the Mind Gem out and kill him?

>>82519816
wanda
wa(ka)nda

Coincidence?

>>82519868
OHOHOHOHO

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>>82519945
Sam was the GOAT bro in CW.

I love the fact he was always by Steve's side. He even went to Peggy's funeral with him even though he didn't know her.

Dat support, mang

>>82519816
>There are 3 Scarlet Witch threads up at the same time
This has never happened before

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>>82519945
>dat helicopter kick

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>>82519945
Hey dude, don't take it personally. All other Avengers are scum compared to Wanda. Even the robot Superman is second rate compared to our glorious Scarlet Empress.

>>82519977
She's easily the best MCU girl now that Peggy is gone.

Nat is better now that she's away from Whedon.

Sharon still a shit tho

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>first the Black Widow seduces Tony
>then Cap
>then Banner
>possibly Bart
>now our favorite African Warrior with the BBC
When will it end?

>>82519932
He was made by evil robot tony... Of course he has a dick!

Crossbones was really badass in his brief appearance. He kickstarted the plot, nearly killed Cap with that suicide bomb, put up a good fight, rekt the police, and generally was just menacing. It's a shame that his goons were bumbling retards with slow reflexes shit aim and glass jaws. In most other circumstances Cap's entire team would have been killed.

Ah well. Superhero movies.

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>>82519993
When she's cucked every MCU man.

>>82519948
i

i want to see wanda teaching vision about sex

>>82519940
Well, he can generate capes and clothes out of his body... so if he doesn't at the moment, one would imagine he can create one.

>>82519994
>Ultron's plan was to create a new Eden which would only contain him in his new pimped out Vision body and the Scarlet Witch.
Suddenly starting to get Robot Tony's evil plan. I approve.

>>82519945
I love his petty rivalry with Bucky over Steve's friendship.
And both their reactions to Steve kissing a girl were priceless. Rogers has good bros.

>>82519891
Tony's just angry because Scott got the better of him during the fight

>>82519990
ANTS is the best Avenger, sorry

A Wanda is fine but she will never be ANTS level

>>82519993
Her and BBC actually had some fun chemistry so I don't mind that one

Natasha, Queen of Wakanda

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>>82519816
Use this next time.

>>82519993
Seemed like she still wanted some wholesome american dickings to me.

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>>82519868
>>82519993

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>>82519868

>>82520003
I honestly don't remember what happened with Crossbones in the previous film.
I honestly figured that he was dead already and I was surprised to see him. What was it that happened to him? He said a building fell on him but when was that?

>>82520749
Watch TWS again.

>>82520749
When the helicarriers crashed into the shield building he couldn't outrun the rubble

>>82520749
Sam and him were fighting and Sam was losing, then the ship crashed against the building

>>82519868
>dat laugh

Based giANTS is the hero we deserve.

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>>82519816
Is she mean to resemble Evolution Wanda?

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>>82520749
He was chasing after Falcon in SHIELD headquarters when one of the Insight carriers crashed into it, Falcon jumped out in time, Crossbones was caught in the building caving in.

In the montage that shows where everyone is now when Cap wakes up in hospital, you see medicals treating his fucked up body.

>>82519868
I knew it was gonna happen but it was still awesome
>giant man literally wrecking all of team Tony by himself while cap escapes
Shit was fucking great

Imagine Scott telling Cassie about how he went Giant Man and stomped around an airport to help Captain America

Complete with stomping around the living room and sound effects

>>82519994
I love when people try to excuse Ultron's quipping by saying it's because he's just like Tony, even though that's pretty much the only thing they have in common. He was no more like Tony than any other character written by Joss "Pointless Quipping" Whedon.

Post music that the movie reminded you of.

James Bond-esque Visuals Movie Intro Theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzLexvpy_qA

Team Iron Man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eRQx3R9nu0

Team Cap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0a4xKVpT1Q

Zemo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttF51Xytz7Y

>>82520898
He was also similar to Tony in that in trying to fix a problem he just makes everything so much worse.

So is this the best cape movie of the past decade?

>best fight sequences
>banter that's not cringeworthy
>cast is perfectly balanced
>plot actually makes sense
>no convenient "now everything is better" ending
>villain is at least okay
>b-villain was perfect

I can't think of a better one since the recent cape boom. Avengers 1 may have had me more giddy based on sheer novelty, but this was a much better movie. How do based Russos do it?

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>>82520880
>yfw Scott dies during Infinity War and Ant Man & Wasp is actually about Hope and Eric O'Grady

>>82520990
Shut your mouth, Scott Lang is immortal

So I noticed they said "8 years since Tony announced he was Iron Man."

All of Phase One took place within about a week (Avengers was a bit later). Phase 2 was probably spread over a few months, based on Agents of SHIELD.

Does this mean that there's a 6+ year gap between AoU/AoS/Netflix and Civil War? Or is that just a sliding timeline mistake?

>>82521005
>All of Phase One took place within about a week
Iron Man > Time skip > Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, Thor > Time skip > Captain America > Short time skip > Avengers

That's phase one. Depending on the time between IM 1 and 2 and Thor and Captain America, that could easily be a two year span. You gotta think that Tony needs time to build his tower in Manhattan and that would probably take at least six months to a year.

I dunno where they get eight years from though.

>>82521058
True, I forgot about the skip between IM 1 and 2, and it makes sense that Thor to finding Cap was probably a decent amount of time. I guess they could easily make that be 2+ years.

Is there any room in phase 2 for a time skip?

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>>82519948
>He can still fist and eat ass

I feel like this should be a fighting mantra.

>>82521005

I think it's mentioned that a couple of years have passed between TWS/AOU and CW

>>82521005
I don't think there's any sliding timeline in the MCU. It's pretty much the same as our time

>>82521058
IM1 occurs in 2008, skip a few years to IM2/TIH/Thor, skip another year to TFA, then the year after that was Avengers

>>82521005
The movies happen in real time.
Civil War takes place in 2016
Iron Man took place in 2008

>>82521075
>Is there any room in phase 2 for a time skip?
Not as much because of the "two years between avengers 1 and age of ultron". There's space for a time skip between Age of Ultron and Ant-man but I don't get the sense that it could be more than a year.

>>82521175
I'm pretty certain they mention Sokovia happening a year ago.

For simplicity's sake it seems they're sticking with real-time timeframes.

>>82521174
Yeah, I guess I'm realizing that now. I just always got the sense that they were closer together in time, especially because Agents of SHIELD doesn't really seem to be happening in real time. It feels like they've been a team for ~a year, not nearly three.

Then again, I haven't been taking notes or anything, so I'm sure I've forgotten plenty of time references.

>>82520990
>killing off everyone's favorite
Yeah, no, they'll milk Paul Rudd for as long as they can.

>>82520280
her tits are not that big.

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>>82521233
Are you implying the drawfags care?

>>82521191
I wonder if they showed the dates in the movie when they had the scene with the casualties of the previous events.

>>82521203
Nigga, Simmons was on that alien planet for months, Daisy went from barely being able to handle a gun to becoming operator tier, Fitz stopped having the downs, Ward rebuilt Hydra, Coulson rebuilt SHIELD, etc etc. Three years barely cuts it

>>82521228
This. Everybody seems to be saying he was the best part of the movie.

A hero enjoying their job and having fun is just plain entertaining to watch. People respond well to it.

>>82521254
>Simmons was on that alien planet for months
Oh yeah. I'm retarded.

> Daisy went from barely being able to handle a gun to becoming operator tier
I've always written that off as she's a Mary Sue

> Fitz stopped having the downs
Hopefully I can do that soon.

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>>82521233
I dunno man

Best action scene?

>>82521313
When FRIDAY took over the suit and started beating the shit out of Cap

>>82521329
That reminds me ... had we seen FRIDAY in AoU? (and that's a reference to how he always called Pepper "his girl Friday," right?)

>>82521351
Yes? In that we see him pick out a new VI for his suit. Shes the one we hear during the final fight with Ultron since JARVIS is now Vision

>>82521351
Yeah, that's when she first showed up.

>>82521313
My favorite one was the first chase sequence/black panther introduction

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>>82519864
Who sent him the text did it say? I wasn't looking. Would like for it to be Sharon as her being in Steve's phone implys they hung out more off screen. Their kiss seemed a little quick for a "long time coming"

>>82521389
Some random number that wasn't in his contact list

>>82521389
I'd guess it was one of her kids/grandkids. I'm sure he'd gotten to know the family (outside of Sharon) during the past 5 years.

>>82521389
He didn't seem to know that Sharon was Peggy's niece though

>>82520828
I think ultimate Wanda more.

>>82521406
Steve's an old ass man. You think he knows how to setup contacts?

Also who the fuck sends "she died in her sleep" to someone they've never texted before?

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>>82521424
m8

>>82521427
Maybe he didn't save the contact? God knows I have entire conversations on my phone with people I don't have on my contact list

>>82521174
They MOSTLY take place in real time. There are exceptions.

Incredible Hulk released in 2008 but takes place in 2010 (same week as Iron Man 2 and Thor).

>>82521313
Airport scene, specifically GiANTS

>>82519816
Jean Grey?

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This movie would have been better with Quicksilver in it. I wanted someone to stand up for Wanda (She isn't even my waifu) when Ross or whoever was drilling them about all the death. Or all the other times people were blaming her. Having Quicksilver there being a dick and getting mad trying to defend her would be cool.

They brought in Hawkeye as kind of the "big brother" roll. While I don't want Hawkeye removed from the movie, him sharing the break out and a few other scenes with Quicksilver would be cool. Quicksilver would have been a cool way to show off Spidey's senses and other powers to.

Why'd Whedon have to kill him man?

>>82521427
It could've been the hospital alerting him

>>82521203
S1 was definitely possible to spread out over a few months, starting some time after Hydra got Extremis. up to TWS.
S2 is a few weeks to a few moths leading up to AoU.
S3 pretty much comfortably takes place before CW, easily with a few month gap between the mid-season finale and premiere. Not a lot of leadup to CW, though, but maybe Tuesday will have some fallout form there.

>>82521003
No, that's Danny Rand.

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>>82519816

I just don't find Elizabeth Olsen attractive at all. Something about her facial structure makes her look old and creepy. Her cheeks and too-wide grin make her look like Joker '89.

>>82521058
>Iron Man > Time skip > Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, Thor > Time skip > Captain America > Short time skip > Avengers
Do the comics count as canon? There was that one where it had Coulson and SHIELD track down the heroes and shows what they were doing during the movies laying out the time line. Where it shows Coulson's super gun is the Destroyer Armor broken down.

>>82521566
I think only some of them do. Others are meant to be "inspired by". There was a list online somewhere

So now that Tony and Pepper are separated again, how long before Tony gets lonely and makes Jocasta to bang?

>>82521555
It's okay to be gay anon.

>>82521566
Some comics are official tie ins and therefore canon (but probably like 90% canon and the movies could contradict them if they needed).

>>82521459
din see dat komin'

>>82521578
He gonna bang Aunt May

>>82521578
How about Jocosta appearance in Ant-Man & Wasp?

>>82521578
Pepper is going to return in Infinity War

>>82521605
I don't blame him.

>>82521605
If 16-year old Peter doesn't have confusing thoughts about his aunt, he's gay.

>>82521687
You think he was like
>Come on Aunt May, I always wanted to
and she was like
>Oh well, might as well keep it in the family

>>82521313
Cap and Bucky's escape from the apartment was amazing. Nobody's talking about it, but I think it was the legitimate highlight as far as action scenes.

>That bending the railing to swing to a lower level
>That Buck pushing Steve into enemies
>That battering-ram as a club

>That motorcycle theft

>>82521722
>>That battering-ram as a club
Lost my shit there, straight up. it was just brought down by too much shakey cam.

>>82521722
Don't forget how they defused those grenades.

>>82521313
can't choose most favourite, every actions in this movie are the best. The choreography is fantastic, very brutal, raw and grounded. The set pieces were amazing. Compare to the weightless CGI overblown in AoU, this is way more beyond that.

>>82519840
>is it nolans fault?
It's WB/DC's fault for thinking the somber style of Nolan's Batman movies was suitable for anything other than his particular take on Batman, much less Superman and the Justice League.

You know how a lot of people are saying that studios may get the wrong idea from Deadpool and instead of focusing on humour and character, they're gonna start making vulgar, sexual R-Rated hero movies?

Same thing. They misread the reasons Nolan's films were successful, and tried to ape them without understanding what they were doing.


And Snyder is a hack.

>>82521705
Igetthatreference.jpg

>>82521722
Bucky was to good at blocking bullets with hm arm for me. Dude opens up with an automatic whatever rifle it is, and only hits Bucky's arm? They at least had Winter Soldier doing flips dodge Falcon's gun fire in Cap 2, as he was blocking with his arm as well. This was just, I don't want to say lazy because the scene was great, I just wish blocking bullets didn't seem so easy.

>>82521705
Did you just quote terrible 70's porn? Private tutor or something iirc

>>82519868
"Does anyone have any orange slices?"
I kek'd for days

>>82521882
Can't wait for the Russos to work their magic on Thor's sequences. Hnnnngggg

>>82522020
I didn't get that one. Just seemed sorta random to me.

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The Onion reviews Civil War and brings up the elephant in the room and asks when it will get its own movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWWjQ9vexhE

>>82519870
>[Bendis screaming in the distance]

>>82519894
They respect her purity.

>>82519974
>Sam breaks off from Cap and tries his damndest to catch Rhodey after Vision shoots him down
Great character moment. Fuck Tony for shooting him.

>>82522135
He was shook and Sam, who was part of what caused it, was right there.

>>82522135
Yeah, Tony was pissed at Sam for dodging the shot (that could've ended just as badly for him) more than at Vision for shooting in the first place. Even though Sam actually gave a damn about Rhodey.

>>82521483
>Pietro acting like a Jelly brother around Vision all the time.

Was there 4 or 5 dead other "winter soldiers"? I can't recall and am wondering if Zemo kept one to break himself out

>>82521897
The difference between Noland and Snyder.
https://youtu.be/9FKX1Jm-NNc?t=13s

>>82522231
He killed them all. I think you see an empty tank, but it was Bucky's.

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why did they use that distracting giant font everytime it changes location?

>>82522231
Zemo wanted to off himself, m8.

>>82519945
Wing shields pisses me off. Wings can't be bulletproof. How else are the bad guys supposed to take down Falcon? They fire at his wings and the bullets just bounce off. It ain't right.

>>82522169
>who was part of what caused it
>dodged a blast that would have had him fall out of the sky much the same way
The only people who caused it is Tony and Vision.

>>82522353
I kinda liked that t b h

>The Force Awakens rated higher than this

what a loads of fucking bullshit

>>82522353
Hated that. Took me out of every moment with this big jarring blocky text covering everything.

>>82522376
I do remember he escaped at the end right? Was acting all cocky like he would too? Why would he even try to get away then? Guess I have to wait for Cap 4?

Another thing I didn't like. The collar on Wanda when she was in the Raft prison. The government some how mad a collar that stops weird mind gem gypsy magic power? No one in the government ever had the gem to even test that. I wish they would have showed he sedated, but that might have made it to clear that the Raft is a bad idea. A couple more villains in the Raft wouldn't have hurt either, Hammer and whoever else is still alive, Abomination I guess.

>>82522393
>How else are the bad guys supposed to take down Falcon?
Same way they take out Iron Man

>>82522626
He didn't escape. He was just smug that he won.

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>>82522188
So many great scenes we will never get because Whedon wanted to kill someone off. I'm still holding out hope Scarlet Witch will "summon" him much like she did
Wonder Man in the comics. Not that she will ever get enough screen time for that story arc to happen.

>>82522626
Zemo wanted to make sure that his presence won't cause a distraction to Tony's rampage

>>82522626

He wasn't trying to get away, he was walking off to kill himself since he'd achieved the revenge for his family that he'd been seeking.

>>82522670
She's not afraid of her power anymore.

>>82522393
How do you feel about Black Panther being 100% bullet proof and theoretically can't be hurt by physical attacks?

did anyone else dislike like the first half of the movie? My friends and I were all bored

Oh, and Olsen is hot and everything, but they either need to make her drop the accent or actually make sure she uses it for every line

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>moviebob already sucking the marvel cock

>>82519993
>constantly goes after the most powerful men
>newcomer has the BBC
>is a prince and then king
>very smart and a trainer warrior
>literally named Chad
Is there really any wonder?

>>82522583
They are both good movies.

TFA just had that "finally a decent star wars movie" hype behind it, critics and fans will judge Episode VIII harder now that the good vibes are gone.

>Inb4 TFA is a steaming pile of shit meme.
>Inb4 the prequel at least TRIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT! meme.
>Inb4 MUHRIE SUH PRUHTAGUHNIST.

>>82522721
the first half was great introduction to set up the characters and their motivation, I'm sorry if you and your friends couldn't enjoy something other than just action and action

Fresh Batch of Rotten Reviews is out.
http://www.tonymedley.com/2016/Captain_America_Civil_War.htm
http://reelfilm.com/russo.htm#captain2
http://m.sandiegoreader.com/movies/captain-america-civil-war/?templates=mobile
http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/movies/captain-america-civil-war-is-an-overcrowded-hot-mess-but-makes-for-quality-fan-service
http://nypost.com/2016/05/05/captain-america-is-better-than-age-of-ultron-but-still-makes-no-sense/
http://blogs.indiewire.com/leonardmaltin/captain-americathis-means-war-20160504
http://www.salon.com/2016/05/03/our_juvenile_american_fantasies_comic_book_fascism_the_rise_of_trump_and_captain_america_civil_war/ This one though, it can fuck itself, it literally compares the movie and its characters to motherfucking Donald Trump.
http://www.oneguysopinion.com/captain-america-civil-war/
How does this make you feel?

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>>82522968

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>Weird obsession with the Cap, down to commenting on the color of his eyes
>Scene where he fucks up Bucky psychologically
>Sympathetic motives
>Insane roulette wheel plan
>Gives the heroes a false lead
>Tricks the heroes into doing his dirty work for him
>Disguises himself as somebody else
>Doesn't need to even raise a hand to fuck everyone up
>Views HYDRA as a means to an end and nothing more
>Relies on his own iron will and determination to see things through
>Shit-talking 'did I really lose?' finish

I don't know exactly who on the production staff read Thunderbolts and delivered on Baron Helmut Zemo, but they are a living saint. It's amazing how many places they can go with him now too.

>>82522968
That spoiler makes me worry that you really believe there is a Disney conspiracy and aren't just shitposting.

>>82522968
>92%

Feels fine.

But lol that Salon review

>>82522353
They did it so you'd hate it for a while, but then couldn't help to cheer when "Queens" shows up, basically.

It was all a setup for the audience to cheer at that moment, I feel.

>>82521578
>So now that Tony and Pepper are separated again, how long before Tony gets lonely and makes Jocasta to bang?
Not long at all. At home he only has two entities to keep him company; a male android and a female AI. It doesn't take much imagination for him to realise he could give his female AI a synthetic body with working lady parts.

>>82519969
yes

>>82522968
>http://www.tonymedley.com/2016/Captain_America_Civil_War.htm
>Watched only "the first one" and this one
>Has no idea what's going on
>"I stopped reading comics when I was a child"
>Muh muture movies
What an idiot

>>82522748
He's trying to compensate for how he sucked Snyder's cock for years.

>>82522968
I'm more concerned with how Zootopia and Jungle Book are eating up its profits in Asia and Europe.

That's box office cannibalism.

>>82522353
> QUEENS
boy, my body wasn't ready

>>82523172
http://www.tonymedley.com/2016/Jungle_Book_The.htm

>>82522020
What was the joke, I really didn't get it, i was expecting something a joke, but that just made go "Huh?"

Is it a reference that flew over my head?

>>82523347
Didn't you ever play sports as a kid? We used to eat them in breaks in play. Electrolytes and whatnot

>>82523347
Orange juice is good for rehydration after strenuous activity

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>giANT man appears
>everyones reaction
>Spidey's "oh SHIT"

The whole theater was laughing their ass off

>>82523374
>>82523380
So it wasn't a fucking joke.
Or Rudd's delivery was fucking shit.
Either way, that scene made no god damn sense.

>>82523325
What the fuck? This reads like a bait pasta.

>>82523402
Did Tobey or Garfield ever swear like that in their movies?

>>82523432
No, never

>>82523432
the occasional damn and that's it
>I'll pay you when you fix this damn door!

>>82523406
It's what the kids call a quip

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>Can you please move your seat up
ayy lmao.
that little segment between bucky/cap/falcon was great, especially after he kissed sharon

>>82523432
Nope.

I don't think Spider-Man has ever been known to swear before.

>>82522721
i like esploxions and big booms kapow

>>82523545
Tony's "Manchurian Candidate" quip since it's a cute reference and foreshadows how he understands that Bucky wasn't at fault for his brainwashed rampage, but decides to pointedly ignore this when he's out for REVENGE.

>>82523545
fuck yes, whole theater lost their minds at that part.
>you ever been to Germany?
>no
>oh you’ll love it
>I can’t go to Germany!
>why?
>……I got…….homework

>>82519977
Its like Bendis's personal nightmare come true.

>>82520828
That's far too goth and not witchy enough.

Uncanny Avengers, and ANAD Wanda.

>>82523545
>that little segment between bucky/cap/falcon was great, especially after he kissed sharon

My theater went fucking bananas at their reaction to the kiss.

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>When scarlett pushed Vision through the fucking ground with her powers

>HANK PYM ALWAYS SAID TO NEVER TRUST A STARK
>I Don't know you

That was really good.

>>82523432
nope but Cameron's early script had him threaten some criminals with "I'll kill all y'all motherfuckers"

*panicked*
>GUYS, SOMETHING JUST WENT INSIDE ME.

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>>82523714
Mine did too. But not in a good way.

>>82523723
I thought for sure that Stark was going to mention that he made a pass at Hope once and got a successful one-night stand out of it because she really wanted to piss off Hank.

>>82523006
I'm so fucking glad they didn't kill him like they do other villains. Sad part is I doubt that we will ever see him again anyways.

>I don't know what this is, but it's not paprika

Then what was it? It looked like paprika.

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>>82523717
>when she fucked up BW because Clint was holding back

>>82519993
I thought the same fucking thing.

It was so intentional...I love it.

>>82523777
Then how do you mean?

>>82523800
Looked like chili powder to me

>>82523622
I think it's slightly understandable because before that it wasn't really completely personal until he saw that footage. Yes, the entire chase down led to Rhodey getting crippled but that was extremely indirect. Either way that fight was really brutal. I'm surprised about how the trailers for this were kind of shitty and the movie was amazing and the trailers for AoU were GOAT and was the shittiest comic movie I've ever seen. Russos should just take the reins on everything.

>>82519940
bitch he might have

>>82523829
Everyone was salty that Sharon stole their husbando, m8

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>>82521483
Chthon maybe just maybe bring Pietro back if he shows up in Doctor Strange and Infinity War.

>>82522968
The Salon review that compares Cap to Trump is just hilariously bad.
And fuck do I hate that particular New York Post critic. How he still has a job will always be a mystery to me, the guy never has any legit criticisms, he just enjoys shitting on both actors and viewers no matter what movie he reviews.

>>82523856
Really? Wow.
People at my theatre were thrilled. Hell, my little sister loves Cap and she cheered for him.

>>82523856

What a weird fuckin' crowd.

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Man, even as a kid, the meme was strong with Evans.

>>82523006
I really wanted a Sword vs Shield fight

>>82522626
it was a shock collar.

>>82523800
>not knowing how selective Eastern Yuropoors are about their paprika
>not knowing how shit-tier generic McCormick paprika is

Szeged Hot or Spanish smoked or go the fuck home.

How did the other guys get captured?
Vision, Rhodey, and Tony were miles away at the end of the fight.
I get how Sam ended up in jail, but Wanda, Scott, and Clint should have gotten away easily

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>>82524066
They sacrifice themselves so Cap could get away.

>>82524084
But the only person at the airport not on their side is Black Panther. They could have just walked away when the fight was over.
Steve and Bucky were in a jet with nobody pursuing them after Rhodey was shot down. They don't need to stick around

>>82524066
Vision was holding Wanda in his hands.
Scott was already out of it, same as Spidey.
I missed whether Clint was down at that point.

>>82523922
>How he still has a job will always be a mystery to me
he gets clicks. a good chunk of negative reviews for very popular movies are because the authors know they'll get outrage clicks. if you don't give a shit about your reputation there's no reason not to. Hell, it's Salon's entire business model.

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>task force had orders to shoot on sight
>decided to fist fight TWS in a stairwell instead

They deserved to get tossed like rag dolls

>>82524114
you forget the several hundred cops and special ops surrounding the airport.

>>82524156
BP beat his ass.

>>82524156
Clint wouldn't leave the others so he probably came quietly at that point.

>>82524069
The most sympathetic probably and most successful in terms that he started out with nothing and succeeded, although he was imprisoned.
But lets not forget that Loki managed to successfully become King of Asgard and Ross became secretary of State and has half the Avengers team by the balls.

This was probably Robert Downey Jr's best Marvel performance. Also Vision, Wanda, Ants and Spidey were all based.

>>82522058
Orange slices replace electrolytes, making the body less sore after an intense work out. More than likely it was a reference to how his body was being torn apart by the transformation.

>>82524156
Vision left to go check out Rhodey. Falcon was surrounded by Vision and Iron Man, so him getting caught makes sense, but everyone else could have escaped

>>82524469
Panther was still on site

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>>82523878
Speaking of Doctor Strange, here's some news.

>>82524528
I doubt he could take Antman, Wanda, Black Widow, and Clint at the same time

>Cap rescues everybody in the super prison
>Including Scarlet Witch
>Next scene plays
>Bucky thinks he has to be frozen until they undo all the brainwashing HYRDA did to him

But Cap broke out Scarlet Witch right? She could have that shit done in like 5 minutes with her powers....

>>82524578
Antman was out of the fight at that point. Wanda seemed a bit shell-shocked, she probably overexerted herself. Clint and Widow aren't a match for T'Challa, although I doubt Natasha would actually try to stop him after she helped Steve and Buck get away. She left with Tony and the others, so she must have helped with the arrests and disappeared only after they brought Rhodey to a hospital.

>>82524634
She doesn't seem to know how to control her powers all that well beyond moving shit with her mind so far.

>>82520898
>hating quipping
Cool meme, bro.

>>82524656
Pym could have just shrank down and hitched a ride with someone to escape.
Wanda seemed like she just had a headache after Rhodey shot that stuff at her head.
Clint was doing fine, all that happened was BP kicked him in the chest. He's supposed to be a master of subterfuge, he could have definitely gotten away

>>82521555
Same. She's cute and charming, but attractivenesswise she looks like an old lady aside from the lack of wrinkles. Would take even Darcy over that to bed.

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>>82519816

>>82524341
btw, what happened to odin in that thor second movie? why was like there in his place? I know he faked his death but what about odin?

>>82524685
Seems like she knew what she was doing when fucking with everybody's heads in Age of Ultron.

>>82523204
Still Disney profits.

That scene where Steve kisses Sharon.
I remember thinking 'when he turns both Sam and Bucky better be smiling'. And go fig they are. Grinning like idiots cos their boy was macking it with a hot lady.

It was a perfectly executed moment of levity. Honestly any Sam/Bucky moment was fucking gold.

>>82522790
>he didn't like the first half so he must just want action action action

No, lick my taint marveldrone

>>82519993
>Bart

>>82526228
oh shit I smiled just by thinking about that scene

the movie is really good I might even rewatch it

>>82526058
I don't think nightmares would help in removing uber-violent brainwashing.

>>82524634
Pay attention. They clearly had some kind of inhibitor on her.

>>82524656
Clint vs Tchalla was matched well. He had BP in a chokehold but he got thrown off and BP escaped

>>82523796
Psht you know that sokonigga is gonna head the thunderbolts when that flick takes the slot for inhumans.

>>82520949
This so much. Tony was wrong and war machine being crippled was tony and his robots fault. He took it out on falcon. But his own team member fucked him over.

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>>82519816
How the fuck did they manage to make the only character in the Marvel universe sluttier and more morally dubious than Black Widow cute?

>>82521984
>terrible
No anon you're wrong

>>82526566
Except he wasn't actually wrong. He had just as valid a viewpoint as cap who was honestly kinda being a shit by putting his buddy above a greater good.

>>82521275

Someone get this woman some ice cream, she could be my fatfu

>>82526570
>you will never get a bj from this cutie and cum all over her face, and then gaze opon those eyes while she smiles at you

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>>82526708
forgot pic sorry

Man I remember the knock down drag out fight at the end. And it's so emotionally charged and you feel for each of these people. Their actions make sense and they seem entirely justified and it's just this brutal mess. And I think back to bvs. And that's MARTHA fight between bats and supes. I couldn't help draw paralleled in how one made it work so right and the other just fucked it up.

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We all agree, right?

Tony was right, right?

>>82523347
When he first arrives, we can see that he has a terrible hangover. During the fight, he's possibly forgetting about this - the adrenaline rush he feels should help. After he falls, the symptoms most likely return, so he's tired and hungover, and he's asking for a common hangover cure.

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>>82525585

>>82520848
>War Machine's missiles vs giANTS' bus.
So fucking cool

>>82522353
People bitch at DC for not having establishing shots.

Marvel establishes the shit out of those shots

>>82525585
Holy shit that's great.

Could somebody color it?

>>82526789
To a degree they both were right. They just were both very extream in their ways of handling it. Both sides were justified

>>82519969
>>82523164
the mind stone is probably just a power source for him. most likely thanos is going to pluck it out of him and then Tony or some one revive him with the solar gem.

Vision will likely be significantly weaker afterward, but he wouldn't mind.

>>82522707
You can still out punch him(hulk,thor,maybe cap)/toss him around(giantman punt,vision)/shoot at him until he's blown away(ironman,thor lightning , vision lazer, hawkeye bomb arrow)

>>82523002
>Hank Pym/Cho joke
Ok, I laughed

>>82519864
>>dat collective "oh no..." from the audience when he got the text and ran out

don't like, nobody knows who peggy carter is, specially not after the show is basically getting cancelled because nobody cares

>>82527077
Yeah I'm sure no one guessed who the woman who passed in her sleep was. Couldn't be the woman he fell in love with in cap 1 who was bedridden and aged in cap 2. Nah some show ain't popular so how could they know.

>>82524268
That "Come on, man" line as Bucky keeps almost killing some of them during the escape

>>82523856
I the sharon x cap romance wasn't really that good. it felt like something they just had to do off the list.
I didn't like romance in first avenger either, but that movie is really lackluster compared to WS and CW.

>>82525608
Odin left to grieve the loss of Loki privately, we don't know anything else other than Loki impersonating Odin on the throne in front of Thor and having Loreli captured on Earth by Sif.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK-5nFvFfuI
>someone else knows about 3D Man
Wow.

>>82526661
But the gov. Did have ulterior motives. Ross was super shady and seemed set to imprison them all along. Cap was right and bucky was innocent. Bucky got currupted again thanks to gov. Mistake. Not the avengers. He had a valid point, but was clearly still wrong and as slways making things worse. His best friend got hurt because of him and because of a robot man his robot man made. Because he jumped to blame bucky to please the gov. He gets guilt ridden because they can't save everyone. And pushes that to the max, pretending he's the onlyone that feels terrible about it. Csp just deals with it better because he's not a big man child like tony. Ultimately tony is just a spoiled child who is hurt his parents are dead. He foes a lot of good but ultimately just throwing money around and making things worse. The one who needs supervision is him. He's like borderline a super villain in the making.

>>82527371
>>82526661
who in their right mind would trust ROSS of all people? TeamIron is really just a bunch of lackey for Ross.

should have just reinstated shield with Nick/Coulson in charge

>>82526789
I disagree tony seemed wrong.

>wrong to trust government
>they move slow compared to caps team getting shit done
>they'd be arrested in every mission because ross just wants them to fuck up to lock them up
>caused more damage than everyone
>bigger threat himself to everyone around him, more so than hulk
>lashes out like petty child when he loses or when his emotions are hurt. Says other heroes are unstable

>>82527483
Agreed

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I am the only one who liked the ending credits music?

Anyone know the song that was used in the establishing shot for Queens?

>>82527584
The instrumental music or alt-J's Left Hand Free? Because I can't stop listening to Left Hand Free now.

>>82527511
'If people can't control their own emotions,then they have to start trying to control other people'

You'll notice that mentally unstable heroes are attracted to the Pro Reg side of the equation.

>>82527668
the instrumental

>>82524547
This will be the MCU's best get since Alan Silvestri.

>>82527678
Damn anon. Good point

>>82523922
Isn't Cap anti-Trump given his stance on Wanda's citizenship?

>>82527744
>She's a kid!

That whole convo was fucking amazing. Steve and Tony keep trying to meet on the middle ground, but then Tony says something and Steve goes off on it and they're back to being salty with each other. So fucking good.

>>82526915
And Simon Williams.

>Listening to the applause of cheers for deaths and devastation was a bit scary and more and more what we are seeing in real life. No wonder why!
>Diana Saenger
>ReviewExpress.com

Is she referring to the opening or the airport fight where most people held back and the public had cleared out ahead of time?

>>82521578
Plus he already has the Jocasta drive. You see it in AoU when he's plugging in F.R.I.D.A.Y.

>>82521578
We'll probably get Rumiko Fujikawa for all the nipdollars.

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>>82527812
>And Simon Williams.
Soon. (hopefully)

>>82527801
How old is Wanda supposed to be? Between that and the high school line, is she like 17?

>>82527943
she looks mid 20's no doubt
They should have cast someone younger if she's still supposed to be underage

>>82523545
All of the Sam/Bucky interactions were fucking amazing, they're like asshole teenagers to each other and I love it.

But god damn if I didn't straight lose it at Peter's homework scene, hoooly fuck.

>>82527970
Supposedly it was because of Mackie and Stan's natural chemistry. God I hope they get more to do in the future.

>>82527943
27. Keep in mind that RDJ and Cheadle are both 51 and their characters likely are as well. 27 kinda is "just a kid" to someone past 50 aside from Witch and Spidey still being a bit of the green rookies.

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>>82525585
holy shit anon that made my night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuGhZGaSQew
I wish I could drink Olsen's spit.

>>82527943
Cap is 100 everyone is a kid

Can someone explain flesh out Zemo for me? I felt he was such a cool fucking character but I don't know why.

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Can we talk about how perfect Zemo was?

>Completely sympathetic, motivations are understandable to the point where he could hardly even be called a villain
>Three-dimensional
>Not Hydra, thank god
>Not a physical fighter in any way, his intimidation comes solely from his wit and scheming
>No plans of taking over the world, no delusions of grandeur, his motives are purely personal
>Doesn't engage in a huge battle with the Avengers, doesn't create a giant CGI monster to fight them, the climax is simply the three heroes tearing each other apart as Zemo watches it unfold
>Actually wins
>Once his plan succeeds, he is ready to die because he has nothing else to live for

Why are people saying he's a bad villain again? Sure, he might as well be an OC, but he served the narrative really damn well. I'm worried that next time we see him, he will be a one-dimensional villain like Loki became in The Avengers.

>>82527994
Same, yeesh. They were really, really good together and I'm over the moon about it. Hopefully the next movies will have a lot of them interacting, it'd be great to have all three of them being asses to each other. They've got some f the best chemistry I've seen.

>>82526873
I'm on my phone but I'll give it a crack

hope the thread survives an hour or two

can't promise anything tho

>>82527933
I want to watch the Tony Stark movie.

>>82523856
It should've been a Cap/Widow romance. I blame Whedon for this

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>>82523996
I wonder if he got picked on about the braces. I wonder how they all feel now.

>>82526789
The way I thought of it was: they were both right.

Tony needs oversight. He would have killed Cap at the end. He can be tricked. The superhero community also needs an official relationship with the world governments and tony is good with bureaucracy (ex. Putting Ross on hold).

Cap doesn't need oversight. Killing Tony was never an option for him; I think he would have died before using a lethal option. The whole point of being a superhero is ignoring the red tape that comes with the government and Zemo proved that the system can be fooled.

The world needs a government avengers squad and an off the books squad. And then infinity war brings them back together

I love how Peter was only Spider-Man for about six months and was already able to take on Avengers. After his solo movie and however many years Infinity Wars is away, Peter will be ready to take on most people of the mcu.

>>82528888

Until Cpt Marvel shows up. She's been confirmed to be the top end of hero power levels.

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>My individual freedom should trump the wishes of the majority!

Why does Captain American hate democracy so much? The accords were backed by a stupid amount of countries and Caps only counter-argument was that he didn't like taking orders from pen-pushers.

>>82528938
Well yeah. I more so mean the current MCU.

>>82528983
I came when they put that speech in the movie

>>82519816
Too bad they couldn't hire an attractive actress to play her in the movies

>>82528983
The power of friendship

>>82527183
Yeah it feels like they rushed way too far ahead to make up for the lack of development Sharon got in the last film, but if anything doing that just made things worse.

>>82528983
>My individual freedom should trump the wishes of the majority!
Literally fucking always you European piece of shit.

How can you even defend this movie?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435036/captain-america-superheroes-dumbed-down?target=author&tid=1152026
With arguments like that, it's clear that you're all blinded by brand loyalty.

>>82527943

Yeah, that was weird. She doesn't look anywhere near high school age. I don't know why they decided to maker her a kid if you're not gonna bother casting anyone remotely teenaged looking. Especially glaring when you have Spider-man looking very much like a teenage boy.

>>82529042
We'll see how marketable she is.

>>82528983
He saw the big picture. If situations arise the Avengers need to be able to respond immediately. If they have to get the permission of some military cheese then more people could die than need to

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>>82529067
>National Review

What new kind of fanfics will this movie spawn? Did the Sharon kiss kill Stucky?

>>82529204
Doubtful since if not even normies seem to like it then nothing's going to stop the shippers. And there's nothing getting in the way of one-sided "I want my beloved to be be happy" type Stucky

>>82529106

>>82529106

No, the big picture isn't excusing a self-regulating group that answers to no one on the basis of one correct hunch. God-Emperor Cap had literally no evidence for Bucky's innocence and rather than work with others to prove it he went renegade, attacked police and helped Bucky dodge the cops. His only assurance was that 'Hey man, he's my friend. I know he wouldn't do a thing like this. We go waaay back'. He was right this time, but that's a terrible system that could've ended horribly.

>>82529067
>just blinded by brand loyalty

and so are 92 percent of all professional critics, right? kek

sounds like a contrarian to me.

>>82529238
It actually worked very well. It uprooted corruption, saved an innocent mans life, saved good people from executing an innocent man and exposed flaws in the UNs plans

Anybody think we'll get Red Hulk at some point?

>>82529204
Stony's still around and kicking so obviously no.
We're probably going to get a lot of Panther/Bucky hatesex fic though which I am OK with.

>>82529344
Probably when they do Thunderbolts

>>82529344
I wonder. They didn't do enough with Thunderbolt Ross to justify bringing him back just for this movie

>>82519940
well I mean in the comics they are together and htey have sex so i guess he does.

>>82528286
He's a villain in a fucking suit again.
How many MCU villains have worn three piece suits now?

>>82528286
Looks kinda fat.
Hopefully he lifts before his next appearance.

>>82529904
But he's wearing a sweater

>>82529952
OK rephrase: a villain in normal clothes
Come one that I can count the number of actual super villains in these movies on one hand is sad.

>>82529904
>>82528286
imagine if he hadn't been able to speak russian and thus can't use winter soldier's trigger phrase.

>>82530190
I got the sense that he couldn't. Not well, anyway. He rolled his R's way more and enuciated in different ways than the actual Russian guys.

>Rhodey gets paralyzed by a shot that Stark called
>Better repulsor Falc in the face
Tony is a dick and can go fuck himself.

>>82528340
still working on it

>>82529072
I think Wanda is meant to be early 20s. To her mentor Cap she's like a little sister in some ways.

>>82529649
In the movies they won't because Disney. It's all going to be ethereal and "pure not for sexual" love.

>>82530896
You're just fueling the waifuism engines even more.

https://youtu.be/M6huEJrqf40

from the other thread

>>82530572
On one hand I can understand the anger and grief and wanting to lash out at the first person he sees. However, he IS a huge dick for doing it to Falcon when the guy made 0 threatening movements, actively tried to save Rhodey, and is the person Vision tried to shoot down. Tony is almost always acting like a toddler who barely knows how to express his emotions without destroying everything around him.

Sam didn't have a full body suit like Rhodey, if he didn't dodge the laser and fell like Rhodey did, Sam would probably have fucking died.

>>82519816
>Better watch your back around this guy
>He might break it
It's refreshing when Tony gets rekt so hard he can't even get out a comeback quip.

>>82521077
!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>82529926
Both Zemo and Bucky were fat in this movie.

But it made sense. Zemo was a family man and not active military for a while now.

Bucky was sustaining himself by eating candy bars, cookies and other junk food. There was nothing but chips and shit on the top of his fridge.

>>82530237
Well they showed him practicing in the hotel room. It was pretty clear Russian wasn't his native tongue.

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>>82526873
>>82528340
>>82530752
best I can do on my phone with my fingers and not being a drawfag

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>buildup to more winter soldiers being awoken
>actual threat that would make shtf faster
>j/k I killed them all because I want you guys to kill yourselves
>lol

Biggest letdown of the entire movie, next to the new Spider-Man.

>>82528983
Yes, why would someone who once answered to an org of pen pushing tech specialists with secret operatives an agendas sponsored by the Gov. that turned out to be a big corrupt HYDRA org in disguise that was going to wipe out a vast portion of humanity have a problem with giving up control to a higher org again? What could possibly have changed his mind or made him biased and paranoid about trusting Governments?

>My individual freedom should trump the wishes of the majority!

uh, yeah, it should.

Tony needs to be controlled as demonstrated time and time again through the movies.

Cap needs to be on his own and trust himself, as demonstrated in the movies.

They're both right. There needs to be an off the records avengers team that can respond without jurisdiction and red tape. There also needs to be a super funded heavy hitter avengers that has some oversight an accountability to appease the countries and to keep Tony from accidentally killing everyone.

>>82531587
Would you rather an IM 2 repeat? I enjoyed that twist.

But I wished Zemo was more menacing.

There was a Babylon 5 episode called "Falling Toward Apotheosis", that title probably sums up Wanda's arc in Phase 3.

I love that title and I love how apt it is.

>>82531653

You realize how undemocratic that is right? No one is allowed a say on Captain America's team of human warheads because he knows what's best for us? All because of the highly convenient 'government is always evil' trope. That's an extremely childish worldview.

As keen as Cap is to make appeals in Wanda's favour by declaring that she's just a kid, he's got no qualms with using said kid as a soldier as a highly unstable weapon when it suits him. What happens when her dumb ass causes more collateral? Eat shit, because Captain America and his friend's ability to do whatever the fuck they want matters more than your freedom?

>There needs to be an off the records avengers team that can respond without jurisdiction and red tape.

You can't have a black ops of fucking reality manipulators for obvious reasons.

>>82531894
ironically Wanda still end up with the "mutant question" even in a separate universe with no mutant.

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>>82519816
A few months ago Mackie claimed that he thought this would be the first Marvel movie nominated for an academy award (I'm assuming he means Best Picture since they get technical nominations every year).

Do you think he's right? They nominate a lot now, 10 movies total I think.

Spider-man was worst boy and completely unnecessary

>>82532252
I can see them trying to throw a "for your consideration" towards RDJ, maybe even get a nomination depending on the rest of the supporting actors pool

>>82532252
bananas

>>82532310
It's not gonna get it. It'd be nice to be nominated though.

>>82531122
I always feel kinda bad for Tony. Obviously, him acting like a toddler when it comes to emotions isn't okay, but looking at his past, it makes sense. Rich kid with a lack of a real parental figure - both gone all the damn time - means lashing/acting out. At first it's just to get the attention from his parents that he wants, but later on it's because that's pretty much his only experience in dealing with emotions. Being the heir of such a high-label business, dealing with societal expectations of how he should be the Perfect Son & Heir, paired with the public eye constantly on him and his family, highlighting any and every mistake, it can't possibly do good things for your mental health.

Again, doesn't excuse, only explains.