How's Your Webcomic? /hyw/ #267

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>>82507670
>no double embeds
good job friendo
who wants to talk about continuity?

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Onto the mammoth task of blacklining. Ideally i'd like to try and capture a kind of laid back and comfy feel in a kind of Kino's Journey way.

An traveler ventures to a nature-reclaimed edifice only to find she is not alone.

>>82507872
This looks pretty!

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Ok that's it for now, I'm heading out
>>>82506941
Really good advice with the shoulders thing, yes the short torsos and long limbs are international but I think they look pretty weird too honestly
>>>82507101
Here's how she responded you your comment

>>82507872
shangri-fuckin'-la dude. i love it

>>82507872
Very well done, good job

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The Sisters updated! And shit officially got real.

thesisters-comic.com
https://tapastic.com/episode/345575

>>82507872
Lookin pretty rad! Reminds me a lot of Brandon Graham (Royalboiler).

>>82508083
And thus she did smite him with the holy hoof iron
I didn't think erin and this fight could get more badass but holy goddamn crap. compound fucking fracture in radius AND ulna, and still able to do that. Well hopefully he works on typical rules, and this actually shuts him down for good.

>>82507994
good riddance faggot

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>>82508083
And still workin on my own little mini-comic one-off (pic related) imgur.com/a/zkylk

>>82508183
It's safe to say he's down for the count.

>bugquest only comes here for self promotion
>dewd never works at getting better
>bones is lerking in the shadows
>cell novel copypasta still happens
>sisterfag annoying shit
>ms paint guy dumps too much
>Willdrawforfood is a cock sucker
Pls just let these threads die

>>82507994
That's a bit dramatic, but I don't really show anyone my early sketches or designs either, so I can sort of understand it. Might be worth starting with a short story or something simple like that if she's particularly worried about her skills, though. If she's new to the whole comics thing it'll help a lot to get a little critique and practice in with the proper comic format before diving into something big.

>>82508344
even when it's insult time I get left out ._.

>>82508344
Someone's writing a novel about Dragon Ball Z's worst villain?!?

>>82508344
What happened to Bad Adjectives guy, I liked him

>>82508830
Didn't his house burn down?

>>82508864
yeah but he came back briefly.. so there must be something else wrong now
he was doing a new comic for a while

>check comic today
>two fans
:D

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>>82508930
>check comic day after updating
>0 views

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>>82509079
Cry harder, faggot.

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>>82509150
>tfw no one shares my depressed webcomic feels

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almost done page! (without text)

>>82507872

damn, please don't stop. this world you're building looks awesome.

>>82509322
I share it amigo
0 views, 0 views, 0 views. My stuff only got views when this gen corrected my english, so I stopped and pursued on my own. 0 views.

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So I'm doing a comic. It's not a serious story or anything, it's just a light comic called Juneau, its about a short 'thicc' girl (named Juneau, go figure) running around punching gods in the face. This is my first comic so I'm trying to do my best here and learn everything I need to to make this better. Im studying on the side but yeah. Expect this within a month. I'd be glad for people to shit on it.

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>>82509375
What's your comic? I'll give it a read.

>>82509442

well the art looks great! Do you have any designs for the gods the girl punches?

>>82509352
Hey, Harro! I got something I want to talk to you about on Discord, I just have a question to ask real quick, thanks!

>>82509442
looks cute m8
you look like you'll do just fine

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>>82509375
what are we doing wrong my man?

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I want to FUCK Miss Melee's armpits!

>>82510035
does this comic have a plot?

>>82509352
so nice to see you again!

>>82509442
cute as fucking shit dude. link us
>>82510035
I don't think that's a thing. but i want to lick them

>>82510158

nice to see you too anon! (I'm usually here, just lurking or anonymous if my posts aren't related to the comic)

>>82510035
are the lines ever so slightly blurry? Why?

I need some input from you guys on how a certain mechanic in my story is going to work, if you don't mind reading a bit.

The story revolves around a kid jumping back and forth between a fantasy world and the real world, Pan's Labyrinth style, but I'm having trouble deciding just how that would work.

The world itself is actually a self-contained cluster of memories from an ancient god and all his creations, who are all sealed inside a tree. The idea is that getting near the tree pulls you inside, and each time you do, some of your memories get caught inside and vice versa.

My problem is I don't have a set way to leave the world.

One idea is to have you "wake up" as if you were in a dream, but that's inconsistent and feels like more a cop-out than a legitimate plot point.

The next idea is to die inside the world, but that eliminates all risk.

The last idea involves an item that essentially grants wishes, so basically you wish yourself out, but that item doesn't come up for a while, and I need to have him be able to leave before then.

Finally, I don't really know where I'd have the character end up once he's out. By the tree again, in his bed, who knows.

Any thoughts, suggestions?

>>82510294
Go play Alice McGee's Wonderland whatever it's called but the second game, not the first.
In that, she only wakes up after major plot points to not draw the player too far into the game and forgetting her real life counterpart exists.

>>82510294

What if the way to switch out is to swap places with someone outside the dream?

That could allow you to get more people into the dream world, and more people into the dream world out into the real world.

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I wish there were more sites like Dumm Comics that hosted a bunch of comics. Like a Shounen Jump for webcomics.

>>82510501
That's an interesting take, but a bit beyond the range of where I want the story to go. I want it to be a story for one, almost to the point where you don't know if it happened at all. Really good idea though - I'll keep it in mind.

>>82510673
Drunk duck is one that I know of.

>>82510294
>that world jumping scenario
ehhh
>the other world is godmemories
oooh now you have me.
>dream
that would be traditional. link's awakening is the first thing i thought of.
>there's an item you can wish yourself out with but they dont get it for a while
ding! RPG rules. Perfect solution: you can only leave the treeworld when you find a special branch-with-fruit-on-it which contains a portal back to real life. or just a portal.. or a special stump with a portal in it.. whatever. You only find them every so often (possibly only when you've jogged the god's memories a bit or broken open some that were sealed) so that leaves a possibility of tension. like sliders, you can't be sure when another one's going to show up

>>82510673
well we used to have things like fireball20xl..
>>82510755
i think he means all on one SITE. like, you go to that site every day, and maybe today this comic updated, maybe tomorrow that one did. because otherwise yeah any hosting site counts as that.. or anything in between like hiveworks or freakanimes

>>82510673
http://www.webtoons.com/en/
http://www.lezhin.com/en/

y/n? It looks clean too, and plenty of talented af people.

>>82510946
>or just a portal.. or a special stump with a portal in it..

I actually do have something like that... basically weak points in the world that leak the same essence as the wish-granting item. Perhaps I can re-work them somehow.

Also, glad to see the concept is at least interesting.

>>82510980
>i think he means all on one SITE.

Oh. Well, I know Tapastic's a thing, but creators have to submit their comics there.

Isn't RSS used for that? I don't know much about how that works, but I seem to remember it's something along the lines of that.

>>82511211
yeah, or maybe just.. i mean, do you have a form in mind for said object? because like, if it turns out to be a compact, you could find whiffs of makeup dust. ashes if it's an ashtray, etc

how do you feel about minor jokes that end up coming back as a major plot point?

>>82511687
They're alright.
I have none in my comic except something something fractals *cue laughter* except that will be explained fairly early.

>>82511687
i only regret one i ever did, because it took something slightly funny and changed it into something mundane. basically it retroactively ruined the joke by making it no longer a joke
venture bros has a bit of this. the really old joke names they brought up at random.. now we know who those people are, so it's no longer a joke

>>82511737
What about things that seem minor or random but come back much later? It's not childish to write like that, right?

>>82511237
>do you have a form in mind for said object?

Yes, actually. They take form as bodies of water, like a small rejuvenating pool.

Maybe every time he dives into a body of water, there's a chance he'll get sent back. That could even play into the mechanic that the more you visit, the harder it is to leave, since the chance could decrease.

That sound reasonable?

>>82511876
Probably not. I remember a comic that did it but I forgot which.
Not Homestuck, they did it but not that comic.

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>tfw your Rebel family are singing the star spangled banner downstairs while you're trying to draw
>tfw I can't find my fucking earbuds
MAKE IT STOOOOOOP, THEY'RE SINGING ALL THE VERSE, NOT JUST THE FIRST TWO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>82512057
that's actually neat. i was going to say random vials from said body of water, so when you actually discover the BODy it's like OH it's a whole spring of that stuff we've been using
but actually that works too. the idea of it getting harder to leave makes a lot of sense. especially if his memories are mingling with the god's memories.. yeah. hell that even fits in with the sleep metaphor, as hitting someone with cold water is a traditional waking technique.. and one that decreases in efficacy over time

what would you think of YouTube videos like moving comics? Meaning it would have sound and voice acting but not full animation? Is that a bad idea?

>>82512189
isnt it mexico day? our day is in two months

>>82512206
It works too because he crosses a body of water to get to the tree which slowly gets deeper over time, and he could wake up in a nearby creek, or in the bathtub, and wow that actually really works. Thanks for talking with me. This helped immensely.

>>82512211
i always wanted to do that!!!
I mean, who doesn't love these gems?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nH6ya5g2-s
https://vimeo.com/2867706

>>82512334
yeah this is like six different kinds of classic myths together, i love it.

>>82512211
I legitimately spent hours following something similar. A Swedish mulatta would make these awful comics and talk with a high pitched voice their lines. Including the males. It was fuuuuun.
That would probably be nostalgic for me, dunno about other people, go for it.

>>82512335
>>82512769
those where purely comedy, what if it was more like storyboards with voice acting? Like watching the unfinished deleted scenes of an animated movie but that was the whole series?

>>82512913
could work. but dramatic acting is going to require some serious quality performers or it'll be pure narm

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Ive been lurking for a couple months now, forever hesitating to post.

Should I just go away and never return? y/n?

>>82512913
Some of it was story but eh sure. It wasn't exactly comical. I just watched i because she was my inspiration.

I still would watch it. It would be like those cutscenes from Alice McGee's Wonderland or Psychonauts and I have good memories of watching those deleted scenes from movies like Bee Movie or Dune because, I dunno, but at least I don't look down on the practice.
Do eet.
I think I used to do it when I was 10 but my stories were nonsensical to the modern me (two people talking, one gets shot, cut to both of them locked up and chained in a room screaming, cut to a girl at a front door, she slowly fades away) so I'm sure you could do better.

>>82513056
you shouldn't go away
you should post us more context, because this page on its own basically gives us nothing

>>82513056
Leave because you're too good.

>>82513056
Go away drama queen

>>82513096
okay!
I just finished that page, so I don't have much else to show right now.
But! I'll be working on this project pretty much everyday all through May, so expect regular stuff from me.

>>82513129
Whoakay t-thanks!

I just wanted a few people to talk about making comics with. Twitter is good for promotion but nobody really talks to you unless you're already known.

>>82512989
>>82513073
Ok I just needed reassurance that it wasn't autistic
I'm gonna do it :D

>>82513502
surely that isn't page 1

>>82513584
dont forget to post results
Are you going to do all voices?

>>82513612
It is, yes. Page 2 and 3 reveal a lot more of the current situation.
I'll be submitting this to a printed anthology, so I can get away with being confusing at first, as long as I intrigue you enough to turn the page. Not that I've achieved that, but that was the idea.

>>82513743
A good portion of them because I can change voices. I'm getting my old theater group together.

>>82513056
Your figure drawing skills are on point, but this is one hell of an unappealing way to start. The mysterious narration, lady lying on the ground and other lady shouting "You betrayed me!" in a melodramatic fashion can give readers mood whiplash, which doesn't seem to be what you're going for given your uniform, orderly, but ever so slightly askew panelling.

I can't give you a really good rundown when there's only one page to pull from, but your art's on point.

>>82513921
Oh shit, I didn't even notice it was the first page.
Yeah, I thought that was like some random page.

>>82513921
It feel like a start of a murder case in Phoenix Wright desu

>>82513761
if you say so.. this doesnt feel like a start to me

>>82514031
Not really.
An Ace Attorney opening immediately depicts an immediately understandable scenario, but either leaves a lot of blanks or pushes the player into thinking things they KNOW are false (like "my defendant did it").

This page gives us a cryptic narration next to some broken windows, a pan out to an establishing shot (which probably should have been the first panel), a shot of some girl on the ground, and a girl shouting dramatically.

We can gather what's going on based on this, but it's not really like Ace Attorney's cold opens at all.

>>82514163
Fair enough
Maybe the author just wants an intro with a "kick". I have writer friends who are into the same thing. Then there are others who are into the more shocking intros to get new readers with ADHD to keep turning the page.

If you do your best, that will in turn make me want to do my best.

So please do that.

>>82514290
Kind of rude to imply that shocking or immediately gripping intros are meant for people with ADHD.

I've got nothing against anon's page itself.

>>82514332
Talk about the fairy princess from last thread you hack.

>>82514378
I beg your pardon?

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So this happened. The translation is apparently inaccurate too. It's been an amusing day.

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>>82514490
Don't play dumb with me, you boob.
Don't just dump and forget. I want context.

>>82514378
What are you talking about?

>>82514363
Haha was that too triggering? I dont have anything against his page as well. English is not my first language so pardon if thats sounded rude. I even employ the same tactic myself eventhough my writer friends warn me about it. They say "If youre going to make that kind of intro, it'll be difficult to keep the tension up for the rest of the story. The result is high tension at the start and then it will crumble down until the peak of the story."

Or "you realize that'll be the first impression on your comic, right?"


I get what theyre saying.

>>82514555
I wouldn't say "triggering", just a bit condescending. No harm done, I just think whether people wanna start fast or slow shouldn't get labelled like that.

>>82513921
Thanks! I understand what you mean, my paneling could've probably been a lot better in this page but yeah, like >>82514290 said, I'm hoping for your "what?", followed with a page turn.
I've been trying to improve my art since November when I decided to go full on into comics, I think I'm "getting there" but I have this constant "not good enough" in the back of my head. It's really nice to hear that somebody thinks I'm decent.

Anyways, thanks for the feedback. I don't know if I will have time to rework the page but hopefully I can use that knowledge in future projects.

>>82514616
Yeah, it's easy to forget just how important composition is for making a page work. I'm sure your story will come out fine.

>>82514529
Awwww, cute.

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Finished this page!

>>82514892
Do you even try?

>>82514290
I have ADD and I wouldn't bother with such a blatant attention grab. It presents mysteries but none I'm interested in without any initial investment. I'd prefer an introduction to a character, not just a flop directly into some generic action scene.

>>82514984
Relax. Thats only the 1st page.

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Really happy how cute they came out.

>>82514892
Don't take this the wrong way but I see at least six characters yet the background is literally just green grass(?) with a blue sky. I guess you at the very least drew clouds though even if lazily. Couldn't even draw grass under the guy shoe in the last panel, for all I know they are all walking on a giant green sheet. You seem to care way too much on the characters but couldn't give a shit about the comic as a whole. Ever though about just writing the story out, you know normal text format? It isn't like you even need the pictures to be honest.

>>82515041
so damn cute. youre going places. cute places.

>>82515039
Yeah, hence "I wouldn't bother with such a blatant attention grab". If that's how they introduce it that doesn't bode well for how they'll present the rest of the story.

I'll grant you that it's a harsh reaction.

>>82515089
yeah, but pictures make it fun! I love writing, but I love art so much more

also they're in a park, there isn't much I can do with that.

>>82515268
>but I love art so much more
Do you

Do you fucking really son

>>82515268
there is, it just didn't occur to you
it's okay though i have trouble with that too

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Going really slow. Decided to take anon's advice and change the story up a bit.

I made music though https://clyp.it/lhccvqjo

>>82515297
Yeah dude, I would FUCK art if it were the slender woman it is that I imagine in my eyes.

>>82515332
too bad art is a big fat woman that demands you keep making her big dinners.

>>82515322
what was it before? what is it now? wait, was that anon me?

>>82515332

Art is a big piece of shit that beats the shit out of your if you don't pay enough attention to it. It's an abusive relationship. BUT, if you DO pay attention to it the sex is amazing.

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I'm really happy with the structure, pace, buildup of my story, but goddamn it it's not funny enough yet. I find the hardest of writing is punching up the jokes so that they're funny enough. Unless it's something that just 'came' to me. Comedy is a bitch if you have high standards for it.

>>82515433
sadly and completely true

>>82515433
Crowdwriting time? Can we help?

>>82515377

probably?

It was basically just the setup. The fact that the main characters re-purposed space junk themselves instead of the company having robots do it. That made more sense, so rather than being there themselves they essentially monitor and maintenance the robots in an assigned sector -- should a problem present itself that the robot isn't programmed to handle. Most of what their job entails is prepping the robots, releasing them, and just watching and calling other people.

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>>82515115
Thank you Anon. I'm happy you enjoy my anthros. Here's an old humanized version sketch for fun.

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>>82515505
I can sit down and get into the nuts and bolts of action, drama and story stuff just fine, but if I sit down and try to write jokes, it's fucking SHIT. I have comedy I'm happy with so far, but it's all stuff that kind of came as inspiration.

>>82515525
I-I'd be kind of embarrassed to show my stuff at this stage!

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My 16 year old sister is prepping to make her own comic, about demons and lawyers. Thoughts on her style/designs (with the nose size of the one with slicked back hair accounted for as intentionally ridiculous)?

>>82514510
How'd Mimi end up on a Russian comics site?

>>82515747
Tell her to learn how to draw with thick lines first instead of that scratchy shit.

>>82515562
ah yeah that was me, i'm glad my nitpicking helped. space labor is kinda fun to draw but it's so unrealistic. I'm sure you'll think of all kinds of stuff for them to do

>>82515855
Someone posted her on reddit and imgur and I guess they took it from there and tried to translate it (the punchline is wrong though as it says I'll help her instead of Help me). Its gotten be a lot of hits today so I'm not even complaining.

What happened to the apophenia guy.

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>>82515952
Hah! Nice...

>>82515901

Yeah, more out of boredom than anything else. actually flying out and picking through junk could be something that character occasionally goads her partner into doing just to kill time.

>>82515747
they certainly look like demons and lawyers

>>82514892
your previous way of shading looked way better. you somehow managed to become worse

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>>82515747
where the fuck are all these teenage sisters wanting to do webcomics coming from? fuck you guys, post pics

>>82516279
How many pages ago?

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>>82516323
>tfw no teenage sister through whom I can create a webcomic vicariously through

>>82516102
that actually sounds really fun
>>82515981
yeah i'd hate it if he got discouraged and left. shit was too cute and unique. but we've had so many quit on us.. havent seen story-tums guy in forever

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>>82516323
Here she is

>>82516279
that's called "Experimenting"
if dewd stuck with one thing he could improve it more, but in the process of experimenting he's getting more well-rounded. i wouldnt be surprised if sometime in the future he started putting tons of thought and effort into backgrounds and it started to actually get in the way of the characters

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>>82516433
>i wouldnt be surprised if sometime in the future he started putting tons of thought and effort into backgrounds and it started to actually get in the way of the characters

>>82516429
Is your dad cousin It?

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I've had this idea for a web comic in my head for over a year and a half, but I've been too scared to start it because of my art, unfortunately, but recently I think my art has improved to this point to where I could finally start it and not have the anatomical errors among other art flaws be too distracting for the reader
I want it to be episodic for the first few chapters then slowly delve into a main story as it progresses, but I'm having trouble deciding how to actually start the series. Should I just jump right into an episodic chapter or should I just start with the protagonist's origins? Should I try to do both at the same time somehow? what do you guys think?

>>82516330
not him but i liked your shading a lot back in that era when everything was lit by single colors because i forget why, and before that when there was an extended outdoor winter sequence.. that shading was great. this.. this is not really working

>>82516455
okay probably not backgrounds.
>>82516459
start with the episodic stuff, but make REFERENCE to the origins and the upcoming story. make out like it's normal that there is a story, and make it something the fans WANT to know more about in the future
then when it comes they'll be like OH FINALLY

>>82516458
I wish

>>82516433
>Experimenting
No, it's called being a retard. Stylization is spectrum of deviation from reality. As such, the colors must reflect that. A highly symbolized style (cartooney) needs highly simplified colors to match the simplified shapes. Otherwise there's a jarring disconnect.

It doesn't take "experimenting". It takes reading a fucking book, or looking up a video on youtube.

>>82516517
uh.. i've heard people tell him the exact opposite
and i didn't say that's what he needs, but what he enjoys. let the little fucker have his fun. yeah fish sticks might not be as good a medium as clay, but seeing somebody do a halfway passable Thinker has to give you at least a little smile

>>82516479
thank you for the advice! I'll with go that route with my story

>>82516403

It's a story about how a couple of people working a shitty job come across an alien life form and are some what pushed into protecting that life form. (The alien in question being a Bear from Earth.)

The whole story is basically about them fumbling their way through space trying to find this Bear's home, and eventually stumbling into a huge galactic conspiracy.

Here's a synopsis of the first part I'm working on.

The first story is about discovering the bear and subsequently being dragged into the conflict around the sector they're currently watching. Without any way to get off of the planet they've ended up on, they fruitlessly try to communicate and navigate their way to obtaining a ship while being hindered by the Bear and its various mannerisms/attempts to eat things through its space helmet. Eventually they find someone who can speak their language and learn he can provide a ship for them, if they offer themselves as fighters for his latest attack plan against the opposition. The crew tries diplomacy but come to find the conflict had been started by their company incentivizing a war between the two sectors to capitalizing on the junk left over from their many battles. They try to make this apparent to the combatants, but the conflict is weighed down by too much blood to be thrown away by the revelation. Unable to bring peace, the crew narrowly escapes the crossfire of the latest encounter and escape with their newly obtained ship.

>>82516839
That might be the best thing i've ever read
though it's also weirdly familiar... but I don't think it's ripping anything off.
The question is, can this support a long comic? Because it sounds to me like it would only be so long.. a little self-contained 'movie' length comic

>>82515268
Not much you can do with that?! There's all kinds of parks with all kinds of plants, fountains, benches, other people, decorations, etc... you're just plain uncreative if a grassy field and a blue sky is all you can squeeze out of a park.

>>82516952

>The question is, can this support a long comic?

Maybe. The whole thing started with me going "I want to make a space comic where none of the characters are humans," so I'm kind of winging it. there's definitely an arc for the characters written out, the conspiracy's all locked in, but there needs to be more fleshing out. I have no idea how long it could be, but the characters definitely do go a long way from where they start.

>though it's also weirdly familiar... but I don't think it's ripping anything off.

The situation in that first bit is something that actually happens in the real world for various resources. I just figured re-appropriating that would fit here.

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>>82517091

Here's some old stuff. The characters have been kicking around in my head for a while now.

Space is to comics what water is to cartoons.

>>82517220
What is water to cartoons

>>82517311
There is no comic without some reference to space in it and there is no cartoon without a pool, beach, lake, bath, etc. episode.

>>82517399
That seems like a serious stretch

>tfw afraid to start with gag-a-day comics in case I decide I want deepest lore later

>>82517501
it's been accomplished!

>>82517501
Tatsuya Ishida?

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Been working on this page. This page will be the start of montage showing group of characters that will appear in the future reacting to the pillar of light, and doing expositions.

I wanted to show case characters I had in store for this comic.

>>82517197

Kind of embarrassing, but characters have been kicking around in my head for a while and it inspired me to make all this music. Might as well dump it too.

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/unfit-pilotv2

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/the-secret

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/strange-galaxy

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/mobile-artificial-intelegence-unit

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/claustrophobia

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/galactic-danger

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/exploration-and-combat-among

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/last-day-on-the-job

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/galactic-exploration

https://soundcloud.com/sc-frain/galactic-hero

>>82517727
that's awesome dude. cross-inspiration is the best.

>>82517501
Dude this happens all the time

>>82517605
Holy shit it's the metabaron.
Nah but srsly, good lookin page.

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>>82507670

About to ink in and color a new page of FATES, video kind of related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohw1uI1NsmU

i know Fairunes head is way to big in the bottom left hand panel but it doesn't matter because i never ink in my sketches the way i sketched them, they are just a rough quick idea, not what the finished page will look like!

that wont make any since to anyone but me, lol

>>82508083
man i love your stuff! you are really good at leaving us on the edge of our seat for the next update! great, great stuff man!

i love how super consistent your style i to!

>>82508344

if by lurking in the shadows you mean just scrolling through the threads until i have a new page of FATES or DEMON JUICE to post then yeah, sure, im "lurking"

>>82509352
I love this! parts of this look kind of surreal! ya know?

>>82511091
>http://www.webtoons.com/en/
> It looks clean too

get out, you dont belong here, this place is for social rejects and outcasts with weird projects and borderline anti social and loving it attitudes

this place isn't clean, its not a mainstream professional college place where people post there polished ready for bookshelfs all ages, like rate ans subscribe fake social but only really sociable for views and money website like webtoons.com or line web toons, or any other made for clean professional profit websites

in my opinion

there are super cool and talented people here but no one that wants t be clean and mainstream as far as i know

even one of the most talented people here with the biggest chance to make it the sisters guy draws a lot of sex and violence and wierd stuff not meant for an all ages clean make ad and view revenue site like webtoons.com

just my opinion, not speaking for anybody, just pointing out the obvious

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>>82519884
No, you get out. You and your idea of speshul loner sekrit club, you cock gobbler. Anon was just asking for a place like Shounen Jump for comics, so I gave him more sites to look at. If he doesn't like it? No prob.

Drill these in your head, faggot:
(1) Webtoon and Lezhin aren't for bookshelves of all ages. While some do make physical prints of their work, definitely not all do it.
(2) You can make your work completely free if you want.
(3) Webtoon and Lezhin can host both sex and violence no problemo (ex: Bastard, WDTFS)
(4) Not everyone on those sites are gods. There are some tumblresque works in there and some of those even made it to top lists. Take a look at Always Human by walkingnorth. It's just pretty colors, but shit drawing and ehh plot.
(5) You can't say NO ONE here wants their work to have recognition. Stop pulling shit from your ass.

Those sites have a mix of professionals and non-professionals with lives of their own doing their best on their works so it'll look as good as possible and so they can improve. You're even given a choice if you want to compete with other creators or just not give a shit. Don't run your crab mentality just because your skills are in the bottom of the barrel.

ARE WE BACK

>>82517399
There's plenty of both that don't have either.

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>>82514378
>>82514529
Oh.

That's a character from a cartoon show in-mythos.

>>82520129
Not to be rude, but if you're going to draw it like that perhaps you should make it more like an in-universe live action show instead of a cartoon. She's drawn in the same style as your characters and your style isn't abstract enough for it to look the same while being understood as a cartoon (like the Justice Friends and Puppet Pals).

>>82520181
But..

>>82520208
What? All I'm saying is a few little stylistic changes would make it clearer that it's a cartoon, but if you don't want to change it a live action show would make sense too.

Live action heroes are fun because the characters can meet them...but I suppose that's not what you want since you specifically chose it to be a cartoon.

>>82520208
Please don't shit up the thread with meaningless one-word non-posts.
Thank you.

>>82520129
That is a really tall fairy.

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>>82520102

calm down anon, its nothing for you to get triggered over, infact im pretty sure nobody cares

also your posts are really fucking wierd man, like you work for webtoons or represent them or some shit, why are you defending those shit sites so hard anon? who gives a shit besides you?

dont answer, i dont care, my questions are rhetorical ones

also the "secret club" meme is shit people from tumblr say when people simply point out how obvious there being from tumblr or reddit, which is where you should go back to, and stay

yall stick out like a sore thumb here, or atleast you did before this place went mainstream, which doesnt matter, nothing matters, its just annoying, im not complaining, just, once again, pointing out the obvious, this isn't a topic for you to constantly talk back to me, i really dont want to talk to you anon, so just shut the fuck up please

>>82520260
keeeeeeek project more that I'm a tumblrina, you autist.

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>>82519884

i feel like this post blew up 4chan /co/ cuz the whole site went down right after i posted this

here was the post i was trying to post before the whole site disappeared

>>82520269
MORON. Add his trip to your fucking filters like everyone else.

>>82520283
Bite me, asshole.

>>82520240
Stop trying to help. He said "but..", the conversation is now over, nothing else you say matters.

>>82520300
Anon, here's some music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECiMhe4E0pI

I think it might help you.

>>82520313
The "but.." has been dropped, no further conversation will take place on this subject, nor will productivity be humored.

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>>82520287
Now do it.

>>82520336
The time between your comment and mine is not even the length of the track, you belligerent cunt.

>>82520342
French kiss it.

>>82520366
NO MOVING THE GOALPOSTS.

>>82520353
James Brown x4
The only person here who doesn't understand the genius of love here is Mr. One-Word-Shutdown.

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>>82520283

Happy your #filteringme! 4chan /co/ HYW threads are the best place for me to get filtered. I love people that filter me!

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>>82520455

10/10

>>82520455
Personally I admire your dedication to and aptitude at shitposting. I just wonder where the fuck you even get the time.

>>82520475
>I just wonder where the fuck you even get the time.
Bones is almost 30 years old, unemployed and a welfare recipient.

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>>82520475

you know what? your right anon, im to good for this place, im out of here ill come back tonight or tomorrow when i start working on my page again, im out of here for real, if anyone else replies to me i wont see it

this anon is right:

i have better things to do than being trolled to death on 4chins /crap-o/

peace yall!

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>>82520564

im almost 30, not thirty yet, i do have a job and im rich as fuck, what makes you think im on welfaire? wtf? are you on welfair? are you projecting your downfalls and short comings on me anon?

not cool man

think whatever you want

but for the record im not on any kind of welfair and im not 30 yet, and im not unemployed

alright im out of here for real, im shutting this damn computer down, i can only deal with so much 4chan autism

>>82520475
>>82520564
Shut the fuck up. Use the filters.

>>82520643
You're not the boss of me.

>>82520249
But if he stopped doing that, all he would be left with are no-word image posts that contribute nothing but confusion, and pointless "motivational" posts that seem only to exist so people can reply to him.

>>82510294
Remembering the real world lets you jump back to that point. Or maybe you're trapped forever and you're just feeding the tree your memories. It would be hard to tell.

>>82520999
Please don't bully.

>>82520129
That's cute. The juxtaposition of detailed clothing on the limbs and simple garments on the body works well. Definitely on the better end of your character work so far, way ahead of the black mage hoodie. Keep it up...and try more body types.

>>82521065
Don't defend it. He's not going to listen to you or add discussion or change anything. At best he'll respond to me, and just me, but it's more likely he'll just ignore all this.

>>82514892
This is what happens when you indulge your friends. Go back to the beginning and learn to draw. Please.

>>82515747
Be a good older brother and buy her a big thick pencil that actually draws dark lines. And while you're at it get her some good quality paper too.

My 16 year old little sister is trying to start a webcomic about lesbians in Japan but her art is shit, what should I do?

>>82522322
I had a cousin who had this phase except it was Koreans. Just let her burn her own little retarded ass out when she realizes it's a stupid idea. And make her read Loomis afterwards.

>>82522322
Post about her here repeatedly and don't forget text message logs

I can't decide if I want to go color or black and white.

Also digital artists, what software do you use for comics? I'm using Medibang right now because I like the cloud function, but I'm wondering if I should buy Clip Studio (when it's on sale)

>>82523298
There's something to consider when deciding between color or black and white-

the cost of printing. Be prepared to pay massively more for color if you ever want to see your comic in physical form. Seriously, especially if it's a long form comic. Go take a look at printing sites and check out the quotes.

And yes, definitely buy clip studio paint. The biggest advantage it has over all other programs (aside from photoshop) is that it can handle very large files very easily. Also, the big advantage it has over photoshop is that you can buy it cheaply and legally, and get free upgrades after you do so.

>>82516464
Ok I think I know what you mean by things lit by single colors (sarahs pages in chapter 10) but I don't know what you mean by the extended winter sequence.

>>82523298
Photoshop creative cloud

>>82523398
I have Photoshop, too (I subscribe to the CS mostly due to work purposes), but I don't usually use it for drawing, just layouts and text. I prefer Paint Tool Sai for art but Medibang has some nice brushes too.

>>82523350
I have Manga Studio 4 EX and I like how it handles comic files, like nicely laid out instead of having to do individual files. But just the general drawing in it is something I need to do more research in.

>>82523298

I work in black and white* as I eventually get my strips printed as a collection at the end of the year. If a print collection isn't in your immediate future, then go for colour if you have the time. Ideally you should be working and saving your files at a print ready size anyway, as you never know what the future may hold.

*Greyscale really, but that's essential b&w for printing purposes.

And seconding the purchase of Clip Studio Paint (aka Manga Studio), seeing as it's specifically geared towards making comics. If you're going to be working on multi-page stories for printing, then invest in the EX version if you can.

>>82521218
Up the shut fuck.

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coloured a panel today

>>82523806
About the best response I could have expected. Oh well.

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>>82519884
thank you!

>>82517605
damn this is great, also your stuff is super ambitious in general

>>82524289
beautiful stuff

>>82524444
Had you done something to deserve any better?

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WELL, TIME TO MAKE A NEW PAGE! http://character-limit-blog.tumblr.com/

If I can't do it today. I going to force myself to do it tomorrow! (Or dump my old pages in my abandon tumblr)

I wish Scribblehatch would stop posting anonymously so my filters actually work for once.

>>82525131
Have you never in your life been accused of being someone else?

>>82513056
for a first page this isn't very good. the problem is the lack of context; we know nothing about this situation, who these people are.

>>82525217
It's a school shooting obviously.

>>82524793
Informed someone to stop wasting their time, which is valuable advice seeing as they will never affect change or get any meaningful discussion out of what they're doing? Seems worth better than a shitpost to me. Replying to them to spite me at the very least.

>>82525231
Or a horrible science experiment gone awry.
Or a monster attack at a basketball stadium.
Or a superhero flick being shot at a warehouse.

>>82517605
This is good art. Nice use of perspective.

>>82517091
I've read my fair share of long form webcomics, and science fiction is my favorite genre.

Se my first point of advice is: Keep the pacing up! A lot of authors can take the arc you're describing, and turn it into a years-long comic where the characters take two months to buy something at a store. Keep it lean and practical, I suppose. When you find yourself adding stuff that should logically happen, but wonder whether it adds to the story, err on the side of caution. The space bear is a nice gimmick.

>>82525131
Filter 'but. . .'

>>82525231
>>82525217
Idk about you, but I'm getting weird xmen mutant vibes from it and one of them should only live. Bottom right lady could be a scientist. But of course, this is only my shit imagination running around compensating for the lack of more info. That poster only posted 1 page. The rest of what the fucks happening should flow better with the next pages. I'm honestly okay with the first page and I like it that he kept it short at 4 panels, but I think he should've made few more pages to show here and not just 1 pic because obviously people are going to be saying "the fuck is this? The fuck is that?" He's been lurking here for a few months now forever hesitating to post. You'd think he'd have at least 3-5 pages ready by now.

>>82525217
beginning in medias res isn't an unusual narrative device. give it another page at least

>>82526016
Yeah, the author is obviously following the typical rule of fiction: Drop them into the action. And there's nothing wrong with that. We're obviously going to get an introduction, and the function to me seems to be to induce the question of "what the fuck is going on here?"

>>82525551
Leave the conversation alone entirely.

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>>82526341
Oh no.
A gay joke.
Away ye wolf's bane and rosary.
AWAY.

>>82526404
Sucking dick ain't gay unless you're getting sucked while you suck.

>>82508083
DAYUM!

>>82510294
I like the last idea better. I think it gives it a more adventurous feel rather than committing suicide over and over and usual "wake up" method.

As for the second question I need to ask. Does the kid's physical body get pulled inside the tree or just his mind? Because if it's the latter you need to think of what the body does while the kid is inside; doe it fall asleep in front of the tree? Does it walk back it it's bed? Or does it keep on going with it's everyday life without the mind realizing it, in which case you could have the kid "wake up" in the middle of awkward situations.

>>82515433
Yeah, it's hard to insert comedy when you also want to move the story along.

>>82516459
Personally, if your series is largely episodic, I would recommend AGAINST giving us the protag's origins from the start. Granted, I'm biased because that's what I did, but here's how I see it: The first chapter should give the reader a feel for what the story will be about, but it also give reader time to get interested in the main character before revealing their back story. Comics like Cerebus, Usagi Yojimbo, or even plenty of Adventure Manga like Berserk or Fullmetal Alchemist didn't reveal the character's origins the reader had familiarized themselves with how the character was at present.

Obviously, the best approach depends on the story, but I think most readers prefer to jump into the adventure and get to know the characters better later on

>>82526341
>>82526500
Dewd you aren't funny.

>>82526776
I'm not Dewd.

>>82520181
well the proportions are different, but that's a good point.

>>82523392
i don't remember. point is.. well, you used to just kinda instinctively HAVE it. at least rim-lighting, which is appropriate in certain situations. but as often happens, now that you're studying you're kinda losing it.. so it's a good idea to actually study shading now (you've been focusing on construction right?). I think you'll get it, and it'll help you think more in 3d. because this current shading is VERY 2d, it's shading the shapes only as they appear to the viewer, as if the rest of the angles don't exist.

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Critique desired on the following:

John is a hardened inmate serving a ten year sentence for manslaughter at a maximum security prison. When he learns about the death of his divorced wife, John realizes the last good parent his only child had is gone. Feeling remorseful and full of regret, he convinces the parole board to release him. Making his way back to the small Tennessee town he once lived in, he attempts to reconnect with his wayward 17 year old son, Caleb, who he finds walking the same dangerous path of drug dealing and violence that led his father to become incarcerated. Caleb, resentful of his dad's absence in his life, makes every attempt to sabotage John's efforts. Eager to right his past sins and show his love for the only remaining piece of his family, John must fight both against his past and for son's future in a place where a good life isn't so easily won.

What I would like to do: explore drug addiction (mainly fentanyl/heroin) in a rural setting, take a look at positive and negative masculinity, and see poverty and what life is like for felons. I will be using anthropomorphic characters in order to avoid making it about any particular race or ethnicity. What I am aiming for is something as true to life as possible that will move the audience deeply, something haunting and beautiful, brutal and exacting yet with the tenderest of moments.

The story will be told in a three act black and white comic format. I don't plan on releasing this for another year-ish but I am working on concept art because I want to do this right, even if it means going slow.

Thoughts?

>>82527532
>another year-ish
delete everything. give up now

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>>82527532
>something haunting and beautiful, brutal and exacting yet with the tenderest of moments.

>>82527532
i remember this. nice you've fleshed it out. I really think it has potential to be beautiful and meaningful and shit. I'm expecting something that feels as deep as Anders loves Maria
ugh i just hate the name caleb. but that's just me.

...aaand i just realized this is a TNG episode.
>anthropomorphic characters
i rreeaallly don't think that suits this. then again you could do something truly unique and make them something totally original, not based on any real animal but basically aliens.

>>82526293
Poster you're replying to, please ignore anon's outburst on my behalf.

Instead take this nugget of wisdom: if you want the conversation to die, why do you keep replying?

>>82527650
Development takes time but I am always very conservative in my estimates.
>>82527701
I'm not familiar with the meaning of this image anon
>>82527785
They are placeholder names subject to change. Also can you expand on why that would not be suitable?

>>82528092
the point of replacing humans with animals isnt to make things raceless (hell it makes them even more racial, just.. different races. races of animals.. which people have LESS anger about but still some)
the point is taking weak, boring, cerebral creatures and replacing them with sleek, athletic, fearsome ones with teeth and claws and all the fun stuff. If your furry comic neuters them by putting them in normal real-life situations, then it's an insult to animalkind. boring, pointless, and kind of disturbing actually.. since it tends to soften them in the process into a bunch of stuffed toys. the next step after that is diapers.
so unless this guy's son gets into gang fights where busting a cap is replaced by tearing out a guy's throat with your fangs, and the leader of the rival gang is a fucking rhinoceros and that's why nobody can touch him, then... i just don't see it

i mean unless you're going full artistic like Maus or something, then the animal thing is just 'they look cool and that is fine'

>>82527532
sounds like a typical sunday afternoon, basic, made-for-tv flick plot. Probably starring an actor from TNG trying to do serious drama.

>>82528251
What's TNG?

>>82528322
star trek the next generation, dude
there was an episode where picard discovered the son he never knew about, who is now a delinquent teenager, resistant to contact by the dad he had always assumed abandoned him and his mom who has since died.
it's a GOOD story, i enjoy watching people work through issues like that.

>>82527871
Scribblehatch can't help himself; if a conversation is about him he MUST reply, no matter how damaging it is to his reputation, no matter how stupid it makes him look.

>>82528174
Cartoonists have been using animal characters as simple stand-ins for humans since cartooning began. If anything, I'd say the idea that these animal characters should be "sleek, athletic, fearsome ones with teeth and claws" is a more recent one that probably sprang out of Furry Fandom.

It depends whether you're going with characters that are essentially humans but who look like animals, or if you're starting with animals and imagining them evolved up to human levels.

Besides, there's ways to make characters raceless without turning them into animals. You could reduce their features down to a simple cartoon level, even omitting the nose entirely, or make the heads geometric shapes.

>>82528444
I looked over a ton of movies and you're telling me Star Trek already did it? Fucks sake I wasted like two weeks on watching shit to avoid cliches. Well I guess I will watch it now.

>>82528466
which wouldn't be a problem if we didn't have 2 or 3 people in here who also obsessively reply to any reply scribblehatch makes of ANY KIND

>>82528613
okay, but if you're talking 'funny animals' then.. that doesn't suit a serious drama because they're goofy.

and no, that didn't spring out of furry, it created furry. like so many other creepy weird internet things, obsession with something cool turned into something lame. it sprang out of toy sales for series about cool animal and mutant characters that fought things.

>>82528873
Which wouldn't happen if he stopped posting anonymously so our filters could make short work of all of his posts.

>>82528651
everything's a cliche, don't worry.
and there's also a big difference here, in the case of picard being a SQUARE, so his son didn't want to listen to him, UNTIL he told him about his own iffy past and teenage shenanigans.
in your story the guy is a criminal himself so his son's not going to spout the cliche YOU DONT UNDERSTAND because he knows full well that he does.

>>82528927
which of course you're imagining because if there's anyone in here who always posts with his trip even when anonymous would be more appropriate, it's the scribbleman

Man these threads suck.

>>82529200
just this one. this is unusual.
but we also have a lot of cool new people posting, and as long as that happens, all is well.
got anything to post for us?

>>82528951
Wrong. He posts anonymously all the time. See >>82514529

For posts that don't have his art, his posting style makes it super obvious.

>>82528873
I'd leave it be if he bothered to discuss the things he posts here.

>>82529451
Actually, I posted that because he posted it anonymously last thread and wouldn't talk about it.

>>82519884
hey man I usually just lurk but i wanted to say I like your stuff and you're actually improving with each page I see keep at it and don't let these lames get to you.

>>82529530
See, that's what I mean.
You're fucking great at shitposting. I admire that.

>>82529563
You're almost as bad as the people who reply to Scribblehatch.

guys, do i need to post cosgrove?
because i'll do it

>>82529604
do it

>>82529604
I don't care, do it.

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Cut it out

>>82529705
here's an alternative I usually use in "Work on your art" threads.

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>>82529760
fuck I didn't post the image somehow

To page one!

>>82530362
majestic

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>tfw you have no way of knowing if your comic is getting any word of mouth

>>82530379
Thanks, anon.

>>82530397
Learn to hack computers

>>82530397
You have to put your ears where the mouths are. Metaphorically.

how do you feel about characters with a smug default expression? I here lots of people complain about this and I don't understand why, I mean it's a part of the character.

>>82530397
there are ways. if you install those things that trace your traffic, they tell you how much you're getting and what site links to you

>>82530511
4chan has conditioned me to think of anime girl reaction images whenever I see a smug facial expression now.

>>82530511
Looking smug actively takes energy. It's not like RBF

>>82530511
as long as it's not everyone.. what's wrong with default smug characters?

>>82530543
>>82530610
Yeah but I like to use default expressions for comedic affect. Like, unless somethings happening with that character, they have a default look and emotion, that's not bad is it? I see it used in cartoons all the time.
>>82530648
I'm not sure but I here lots of people complain about smug "Garfield eyes" expressions so I thought I'd check here.

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>>82530511
people don't like smugness in reality because it translates as douchey/condescending. It's ok if your character is like that but it usually wont make for a likable character unless it's a parody of these people.

Pic related

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>TFW absurdly high standards for writing
>Wracking my brain just trying not to totally disappoint myself, every second is pure agony
>I just want to draw

Fuck writing

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>>82519003
C U T E

What are the top 3 /hyw/ characters there should be more r34 of?

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REMEMBER GUYS!

YOU CAN DO IT!

YOU CAN FUCKING DO IT! I TELLING GOD RIGHT NOW! YOU CAN FUCKING DO IT! JUST DO IT!

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>>82530828
I hope you're right.

W-We're all gonna make it, guys.

>>82530794
I wanted that girl to post her character's full designs so I could draw them fucking but that never happened

>>82530861
T-there are g-g-girls in these threads?!?!?

>>82530710
yeahhh you can overdo that. you don't want the smug expression to be acting as if it was a joke in and of itself. never use it as a punchline (that was briefly viable but it has been run into the ground hard) and you'll be okay.

>>82530879
A shitload

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>>82530849

YES WE CAN!

WE ALL GONNA BE THE NEXT HOMESTUCK! WE ALL GONNA GET MILLIONS DOLLARS FROM OUR HOBBY COMIC! BITCHES (or male hoes if you are a girl) WILL RUNNING AT US

>>82530879
cute ones, dude. cuuute ones. inside and out.

>>82530962
Can someone remind me why that was so popular?

>>82530710
Smug is fine, but if that's their face 100% of the time you run the risk of reducing them into a two-dimensional (lol) stereotype. Non-smug moments make the smug ones more meaningful.

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>>82530715
>douchey/condescending
See, that's what I was going for but people like pic related complain about that sort of thing.
>>82530861
>says he was going to make "fan art"
>just wanted porn
Ok dude
>>82530879
No, he's talking about the guy who was posting for his sister the last 2 threads, think we scared them away

>>82530861
I appreciate that. i get anal about fanart and like, you don't wanna criticize it, because it was free and you should be in full grateful mode. and you ARE. but you also want to nitpick little details.. and in my case at least, you know you'd WANT your fanart to be on-model and be corrected for little mistakes. on the other hand if you do it just casually / quickly, trying to get a little warmup going, you aren't going to feel like opening it back up and refining anything...
so basically, having the full design to begin with is ideal. that's not always conducive to a COMIC yknow, because.. comics don't/shouldn't just be a bunch of illustrative full-body shots at large size with all the details visible every time. but when you're in an area where people regularly do fanart, it's good to get the control art out there once in a while

>>82530982
We could, but it would ruin the thread.

>>82530982
it's pretty obvious why it's popular. it's quirky and unique and it rewards people who put in the time investment of reading it all and learning its lore. that makes you feel good as a fan.

>>82531092
Sounds a bit faggy to be quite honest family
>>82531070
So you're telling me it's cancer

>>82531050
they were scared to begin with, that was the point. Had they just come in like normal people, they would have been treated with the usual medium level of respect. instead they came in pre-judgmental like "yeah you guys are creepy but i cant find anyone better to help, so could you allow me to act as a proxy for someone who you're even MORE unworthy to talk to directly?"
it's like trying to tell ethnic jokes but holding back so you dont offend anyone, sending the message of "yeah sorry you don't get to hear full jokes because you're special and set apart from me. also i automatically assume you're going to get mad and hurt me if i do"

>>82528907
I'm sure it's possible to tell a serious story with cartoon animal characters; something like Josh Cotter's "Skyscrapers of the Midwest" springs to mind. Stan Sakai also manages to do this, as "Usagi Yojimbo" isn't exactly a gag-a-minute laff riot. I'd even throw "Blacksad" in there as well, as the character designs are more towards the cartoon end of the spectrum than naturalistic.

Besides, bugs, rocks and trees can also be "anthropomorphic". You could tell the story with insects, just to be different. Or even minerals; rough hewn granite, straight-laced quartz crystals.

Playing on the contrast between the serious nature of the story and the cartoony appearance of the characters can be another tool for the writer to use.

>>82531210
usagi yojimbo falls squarely in the 'animals are awesome combat badasses' field. they are not funny-cartoon-animals.
ceberus is, and that's why.. yknow, famous as it is, nobody really likes how it turned serious.

>>82531177
That's not what I got out of it, it sounded like the guy was just boarded and the girl didn't even want to be showing anyone. I don't understand why people try to push others into making their webcomic, if they aren't confident them they're not gonna make no matter what.

>>82531262
*bored

>>82531262
oh yeah i'm sure it wasn't intentional. but that's still how it comes off. it's just kind of a lesson, you don't wanna ever leave people out from something. even if you think you're putting them ahead of you, as long as you're setting them apart... bleh

>>82531143
Yes, extremely
I'll drop it here for all our sakes

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Free Comic Book Day is tomorrow and the superhero webcomics collective Miss Melee is a member of put out a FCBD anthology! Miss Melee's contribution is nothing you guys haven't seen before (we would have whipped something new up but we're already so busy with the comic as is, so our contribution to the anthology was just the first scene of issue 1), but still take a look!

http://www.drivethrucomics.com/product/182447/Fcbd-2016

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Two things; how the hell do you draw sand? Also, I've got all the layouts for my first chapter done, now inking is all I have to do left. And draw sand dunes. Seriously, fuck sand.

>>82531494
Damn son, nice

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>>82525217
>>82526016
>>82526066

Thanks for the feedback.

> You'd think he'd have at least 3-5 pages ready by now.

Well, actually, I've worked on other comics for other anthologies, teaming up with another writer. This is the first one I'm doing alone and I decided to post as soon as I was done with the first page (the entire thing is already outlined and scripted since it's for another anthology)

Anyways!
Attached is my current workflow, without the script for the page which is really vague and full of mental notes anyways. I pretty much just sketch it in paper, scan it, and then I ink it and do the gray tones in Clip Studio Paint.

I'll post more pages as soon as I have them, probably will post the sketches too.

>>82525688

>A lot of authors can take the arc you're describing, and turn it into a years-long comic where the characters take two months to buy something at a store.

Well, there are definitely points I'm excited about hitting, and I want to get there as fast as naturally possible. The whole thing is 6 parts long -- the first setting it up, the next 4 each individually focusing on the main characters with conflicts that have to do with them while the over-arching plot progresses, and the last wrapping up the story.

>>82531696

And by the whole thing I mean the whole story, the first part being that first arc.

>>82531696
>Well, there are definitely points I'm excited about hitting
I know that feel, but if you try to rush there then those points won't be a great as you imagined them to be. Just trust me on this and take your time.

post webcomic sisters

>>82532149
what did he mean by this?

>>82532165
i mean post pictures of your sisters who are trying to do webcomics, or get your sisters into doing web comic and post pictures of said sisters in this thread

>>82526516
His body gets pulled in as well.

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>tfw 0 views on an update

>>82532327
Maybe he meant to post the webcomic The Sisters.

>>82510294
Dying doesn't eliminate all risk. If you're dying obviously some important shit is going down that you're now not the to see. Imagine your internet connection fucking up during a huge raid in world of warcraft. Also the kid has to FIND OUT this happens in the first place.

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Made some more progress on the introductory background for those animations. It's supposed to be like a sleezy interspacial game cafe that probably sells illegal polygons in their back room. Still not really close to being done but at least it's shaping up.

>>82532544
I love the weird VHS/paper magazine effect on the background buildings.

>>82532544
How long did this take you? Its noice!

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>>82530362
Having an uncharacteristically productive day. Might actually finish this page before I have to move to a new place.

>>82532712
>noice
LONDON?

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>>82532712
I've been working on it off and on for the past few days. I've redrawn it a few times thanks to critiques from these threads but this iteration has probably taken me a total of 4 hours or so. I'm aiming for something as close to "Akira" as I can get with my level of skill.

>>82532642
It's kind of funny, that's literally the only thing in the image I didn't make. It's a place holder for what I will draw but you can trust that once i'm done with this there will be plenty of scan lines and VHS fuzz to hopefully justify your compliment. the image I stole it from is this. I just made it purple and warped it into perspective.

>>82532850
You have cool stuff, m8. You motivate me try harder.

>>82532327
oh i thought you wanted me to post my sister's art. because i have a little of that. she's always been way more 'artistic' than i am.. smoked a ton of pot, worked in a bunch of different media.. but she had FRIENDS and shit, so that always cut into art.

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Post /hyw/ girls you would fug

>>82532984
>smoking weed makes you artistic

>>82532850
It's neat in the fact that it kind of adds onto the image. And I love that smilebot also, with all the little details added, but the fact it's all so faded while being all techretro adds too the light blocking out the background and the blurred perspective of the image.
Can't wait to see the final.

>>82533025
yeah dude she got all deep in thought and painted shit that meant things
i just draw things i want as toys

>>82532984
>smoked a ton of pot
>starting a web comic
hook me up. in 2 years of course.

>>82533083
nah she's 28 now and engaged. but she was 16 at the time i'm describing, and she was hot as fuuuuck.

>>82533121
>openly admitting you want to your sister
At least I didn't do that

>>82533121
>engaged at 28
giri giri seifu

>>82533121
Dewd stop, this is over the line

>>82531570
Study the physics of sand before attempting https://m.youtube.com/results?q=the%20physics%20of%20sand&sm=3

>tfw you guys scared away hot underage girl while I was away
Why did you do it?!

>>82533494
>implying anon isnt just roleplaying as a big brother

I have a cute sister too you know. She works at Nintendo and fights ISIS.

Another question. How bad is it if your first chapter is several pages? Mine is seven pages, and I don't know if that's too long and if it would be a turn-off for potential readers.

Maybe I'm thinking too much again.

>>82533431
Aw shit, thank you. I needed this.

>>82533494
What really? Did she post her art?
>>82533564
What's with this new sister meme, I'm not caught up

>>82533572
I kept mine short and sweet at the beginning too, you are good

>>82533564
>posted iPhone messages
>rollplaying
Ok anon
>>82533572
Sure thing

>>82533252
i don't want-to everyone who's hot, y'know.