End of Homestuck

i always liked the line where he talks about a bird trying to eat his cellphone

What was the worst thing Hussie did to the comic, besides making it Vriskacentric?

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>>82393359
That's a pretty apt analogy
>>82393360
nah I wanna finish homestuck
>>82393382
Rose is great, shes a total bitch who likes to pretend she's so much better than the people around her while in fact she's just desperately grasping for any sliver of control she can because that's all she knows. I look forward to her inevitable humbling.
>>82393528
Lack of more aids references

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>>82393450
Daily reminder that Vriska did nothing wrong and that she is the best character in homestuck.

>>82393478
PURE MOTHERFUCKIN MAGIC

>>82393583
>nah I wanna finish homestuck
Just remember that you CANNOT say we didn't warn you

>>82393528
Probably the timeskip

I never went to 4ums but now that they're down I kind of miss them. Is there a word for missing something that you didn't have an emotional attachment to when it was around?

>>82393528
Dreambubbles
Instead of developing existing characters, just introducing more. This problem is exacerbated by the dreambubbles.
Trying to make a video game and work on Homestuck at the same time.
The post-scratch kids' session being non-stop romantic drama
Erasing character development through retcons, doomed timelines, etc.

>>82393528
the retcon

>>82393583
>That's a pretty apt analogy
shamelessly stolen from hussie's formspring
rip hussie's formspring

>>82393528
The retcon

Like I guess it was a cool metafictional idea but I don't think he could have done a worse job of executing it if he tried

>>82393450
Where's DA

>>82393528
Milking the comic instead of ending it before he ran out of good material.

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werewolf jade

>>82393583

Blogger guy I enjoy you being around, even if there are faggots on here who don't want to see you clumsily make way through Homestuck.

Shit, you're more entertaining that Arara, FUCK K8TNEP, Caliborn is best boy, Jade puppies, and whatever other posted shit I keep seeing every time these damn threads are made. Your shit actually pieces through Homestuck and isn't all memey garbage.

>>82393638
I stopped using the forums a while ago, but I'm sad a lot of the fandom's history is now gone.

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>>82393692

DAOOTS

I saw a long image explaining all of Homestuck's ending's problems in an earlier thread, but now that I'm actually finished the comic I can't find it. Anybody have it?

>>82393692
fell into a pool of irrelevancy
she was only ever there to round the players out

>>82393742
reddit's making an archive using the wayback machine, I believe

>>82393528
not finishing it by cascade, honestly that is as far as the story needed to go and pretty much all loose ends are tied by that point. it could have ended with the characters simply escaping and then having an epilog where we briefly meet the alphas knowing that the story will continue even if we dont see the rest and that the betas and the trolls are away in some place in paradox space finally free of all this bullshit

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>>82393583
>>82393737
Thanks babe
Also god damn
>TG: but my gears are airtight
>TG: steer clear a the seer and the knight if youre scared of unfair fights
Are probably my favorite fucking lines so far.
God damn I hope finishes her dumb shit and she and Dave do some cool shit

>>82393583
I thought you quit like a little bitch when your ruse was revealed

>>82393237
We had a good conversation about this a few days or a week ago or so. Some of the Alternian ancestors more closely resemble their player selves on Beforus, while others more resemble the Alternian players. The Handmaid for instance is pretty much pure Damara. So it makes sense for Damara's Beforan Ancestor to resemble Aradia, by being an archaeologist. But Dualscar by contrast resemble Eridan much more than Cronus, so Cronus's ancestor will resemble Cronus instead despite being a clone of Eridan.

The comprehensive view:

Megido - Archaeologist, unrequited love for Zahhak
Nitram - Wheelchair-bound weaboo progenitor
Captor - Brain-crippled skateboarder and programmer used as an inspiring story about coping with disabilities by the Beforan establishment. Some kind of relationship with Megido
Vantas - Grumpy-pragmatic militant type who initially led a rebellion against the coddle hierarchy, who later settled down and became a bodyguard to the Empress and later had an affair like that one movie. Might've released the Vast Sigh.
Leijon - Lives in caves, hunts giant beasts. No particular relationship with Zahhak.
Maryam - Fashion model and some kind of sex worker
Pyrope - Skatergurl religious leader who foretold some prophecy about rad stunts or such
Serket - Librarian who used a harmless exterior to cover a lifetime of manipulation and corruption, recorded in a smug diary
Zahhak - Not too different from Darkleer except enthusiastic and an archery instructor, breaks bows constantly, kills Makara somehow
Makara - Once some hippy stoner teacher, turned into a revolutionary once off the stuff. Motivated by cavepaintings by Leijon, excavated by Megido.
Ampora - Legendary Wizard who's actually just a shitty conjurer, executed by the Empress
Peixes - Obvious

The same rules apply to any relations not already featured twice in canon. I trust anyone interested to fill in the rest.

>>82393855
oh god why someone stop them NO

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>there's a gallery on exhentai with +600 pictures of cat-shaped-keyhole bras

>>82393855
Wayback Machine only has a fraction of things saved.

>>82393896
I took a break because I was being too hard on act 5 and my mom got arrested
Now things are chill and I wanna finish up the story because it's been pretty good to decidedly average so far.
If I get asked to make a guess about anything I'll be sure to source my assumptions.

>>82393963
I'm sorry to hear about your mom. Guess I'll have to refill ow your tumbr. How's act 5.2 treating ya so far because I have missed a lot of your reading it apparently.

>>82393963
Also for the love of god stop when you hit the end of act 5. Or intermission 2. Just 8magine the story ends there. If you hated act 5.1 act 6 is muuuuuuuuch worse in the regards you hated 5.1 in

>>82393602
also Peggy Hill did nothing wrong and is best character in King of the Hill

yeah suck that one down

>>82393963
Don't listen to this anon >>82394052 , power through act 6 so you can become miserable and angry like us

>>82393963
why did your mom get arrested

>>82394081
She already was as miserable as the rest of us and that was only act 5.1.

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>>82393726

Wait, Hussie shut down his own forums?

How did Homestuck end?

>>82394245
With a seven minute animated short that showed the kids getting a good end but clarifying absolutely nothing

>>82394123
why is jade brown

>>82394245
The kids make the frog and are happy and gay in a new universe on b2 earth. Muse cali becomes a black hole that absorbs the green sun. Caliborn as a kid destroys his clock granting him clockwork majjyks vriska uses the juju on le

>>82394245
Dave and Jade had a gorillion babies and john killed all the homos, then they decided to spend the rest of their lives inside of an horroterror's ass

>>82394230
They were hacked and shut down so no more damage could occur.

>>82394245
Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

>>82394281
She is tan. 13 years on an island will do that

>>82394294
Two of these are true

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>>82394015
I enjoy it more now that the kids are back at. Now that the comic is showing the ayys interacting with the kids I'm way more on board than just reading the cliff notes of their session and how awful vriska is.
Speaking of terrible people, why did terezi believe snowman about doublecrossing their jack?
>>82394081
Thats the plan
>>82394104
She skipped the intermission
>>82393892
I really hope we get a full on aids callback complete with rampaging robots and shit, the dude can honestly write some catchy rhymes

>>82394350
>Speaking of terrible people, why did terezi believe snowman about doublecrossing their jack?
Because while jack was on their side he still stabbed karkat a couple times on purpose. And that's Terezi's job

Feels sort of weird that the main bad guy of Homestuck is a character who represents people that dislike Homestuck

>>82394350
>why did terezi believe snowman about doublecrossing their jack?
Because she was right

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>>82394350
I feel like I should know what this name is but I'm afraid to google it
>>82394388
Thats Adorabloodthirsty
Terezi is still a bitch that killed John and is playing Dave like a fiddle

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>>82393899
>unrequited love for Zahhak

It's just never works out does it?

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>>82394281
Dave's so white he reflects the sun and tans her

>>82394435
It'd another name for Excalibur.

>>82393855
why
i thought my adolescent internet presence could be wiped forever

>>82394245
Ambiguous plot device character took out the ambiguous plot device and then the plot ended, ambiguously.

how come nobody can remember caledfwlch
it's not a super hard name

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>>82394435
>>82394474
Oh SHIT
Thats fucking dope
wait
So the knight gets excalibur to kill the dragon girl right?!

>>82394520
It's just excalibur in a funny language, who cares

>>82394405
And the character that represents people who dislike Homestuck is one of the characters loved the most by people who do like Homestuck

>>82393602
Go home.

>>82394521
Yeah man you figured it out.

>>82394521
No, he gets it to kill the beatiful Prince___

>>82394521
I dunno, you've had pretty good "guesses" in the past, why don't you tell us?

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>>82394521
Man Davesprite really has it shitty
>>82394609
>>82394628
cool
>>82394642
Sure, Dave is gonna ride unreal air right up to derse and kill the king and then accidently impale himself when he tries to fuck the queen ala lancelot

>>82394497
everything you do on the internet is recorded
be glad you're learning this lesson now

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>>82393602
I dug up this old meme for you

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>>82394728
FUCK

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>>82394785
>pretty much nothing has changed

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>>82394789
Man davesprite is the coolest nigga around

>>82394785
>WAR WITH MSPAF WHEN?

prophetic

>>82394785
>breath has nothing to do with freedom
This couldn't have been that old if that shitty meme is in there.

>>82394789
I hope you like Vriska because she NEVER GOES AWAY.

Hey guys

>>82394976
do you still draw

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>>82394892
I sincerely hope you're getting my ironic goat
Man Jade wake up was pretty cool
Jade is as adorable as ever, Dave takes his shades off for rose and not terezi, and we see first had how completely on the level and in no way evil the gods that that are toying with Rose are
>implying I still don't ship dave rose

>>82395124
>I sincerely hope you're getting my ironic goat
No, I'm giving you a fair warning.

>>82395124
>shipping incest
It's the CURRENT YEAR

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>>82395124
start shipping davejade man, you're about to get in deep into it

>>82394981
To be fair, Vriska is a pretty good Alternian troll. Eridan and Terezi are similarly good at being Alternian trolls, and they all committed pretty heinous atrocities. Because that's what Alternian trolls are good at.
Nature v. nurture etc.
This isn't a shitty argument just because you wrote a sardonic shorthand version of it on an image.

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>>82394981
I filled it out with all of the ones I've said. I'm safe! I can waifu Vriska without shame.

>>82395320
barely

>>82395436
Where's her ass?

>>82395460
It's right there, you can see it.

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>>82395104
A little bit. Did you know there's a phone painting app that's actually decent? It'll clean lineart from a picture.

>>82395525
All I see is a flat landscape, senpai.

>>82395436
Katnep poster are you male or female?

>>82395562
katnep anon is young boy with a virgin boypussy

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>>82395124
>>82395218
Its not incest if they're made of goo
>>82395234
Other than getting Dave in game, have they talked, like at all?

>>82393742
>>82393855

Never cared about the forums before, but hopefully there's some good stuff that can be salvaged.

Only thing I've seen so far that's moderately amusing off the forums is Troll Cops, which has been moderately entertaining.

>>82395632
It's still incest. In the current year

>>82395632

>jade john confirmed.gif

Excuse me, I need to go read three years again.

>>82395544
What's the app called?

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>>82395632
I really love john's planet
Like holy shit it is so beautiful to behold

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>>82395760
AH SHIT NIGGA HERE WE GO

>>82395760
liveblogger on a scale of 1-10 how much do you love jack noir

>>82395760
LoWaS best planet. Too bad LoW sucks.

>>82395632
>Other than getting Dave in game, have they talked, like at all?

Well yeah, all the time. You kind of talk a lot if you're a client-server player

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>>82395724
Medibang (no clue about the logic behind this name)

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>>82395760
It's really cool but Hussie doesn't care to show it off enjoy years in the bubbles and ship

I wish I had a good picture of LOWAS fully healed

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>>82395788
Oh man this strife is gonna be the fucking tops
>>82395799
Spades>Jack
But Jack is pretty legit, the fact he actually keeps his word and gave bro his weapon back despite being some kind of fucked up ai gone rouge is a super cool fucking concept
>>82395884
Tell me I can buy the blue version as a framed print, I NEED it

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>>82393809
>dA
>irrelevant

You shut your whore mouth. Honestly, dA's probably the most relevant to Homestuck, considering Caliborn made an account there to post his beautiful arts.

>>82395937
i wish we would have gotten an actual STRIFE!-style strife between these three with buttons and shit
Like how fucking nifty would that be

>>82394851
Man remember when we used to get visually dynamic art like this?

>>82395937
[s] Jade Enter soon, friend.

>>82395788
>>82395937
hehehehe

>>82395992
Too much work, the scope has expanded, these things are not important to the grand vision of the golden cow whose milk is given out only by generosity :^)

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>>82395937
Man this must be pretty odd in retrospect
Also is typhus like the IE of the homestuck universe?
>>82396004
That one sounds like a big deal so I'll post my predictions about it.

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>>82395999
It's some of my absolute most favorite panels. I adore them.

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>>82396032
Shadow stepping is so dumb but I love it

>>82396032
>all this dialogue throughout the whole story about Bill Cosby becomes super awkward
Haha
Celebrity scandals are the best

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>>82394851
I kind of wish some point had been made of whether Davesprite was still doomed or not, or some of it lingered or was looking for him or ways to get him despite the side-dodge. It would have been awesome if he was constantly avoiding death or cheating to try to wrench out just one more hour before something overwhelming finally came hunting to slaughter him.

Doomed timelines ended up being really fucking boring and pointless.

>>82396081
Bill dindu nuffin.

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>>82396073
>Brazzers.gif

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>>82396109
Someone messaged me and told me that by becoming the sprite he cheated his way out of being marked which makes about as much sense as anything else
>>82396150
OH FUCK THE OIL I FORGOT

>>82396032
man, remember when being good at technology was one of Jade's personality traits?

>>82396196
Remember when Jade had personality traits?

>>82396232
>Remember when Rose had personality traits?
ftfy

>>82396189
The truth is he didn't cheat his way out of being marked, he's still doomed

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>>82396189
>Someone messaged me and told me that by becoming the sprite he cheated his way out of being marked which makes about as much sense as anything else

It was never actually clarified. We still have no real working idea of how being doomed works, or why, or if it affects Doom players, or what can cancel it, or if hopping back to the future messes it, or anything. For such a concept as "literally trillions and endless megakobillions of dead timelines" it just went nowhere.

>>82396232
no

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>>82396189
>tfw your glasses will never talk to you
>>82396254
Neat

>>82396232
remember when everyone had actual personalities because they didn't have to share space with like 30 other characters?

>>82396280
So can people just pickpocket shit out of your captchalogue system
Because I never noticed but this implies it heavily

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>>82396232
Yes, when she went to sleep and the bubbles seemed to actually be a genuine bad threat, and she got pissy, and started to rail on Karkat and work with Kanaya.

It was brief, but sweet. Then she died and we never saw that girl again. Oh well.

>>82396247
No. I remember a lesbian orb who hated herself.

>>82396266
I feel like doomed timelines would be under the jurisdiction of Bilious Slick, so once you escape your universe you ought to be free of doom

>>82396321
I imagine consorts can just reach over and grab shit.

>>82396321
they just kinda reached in there and took it.

>No doom player ever did something spectacular for their element that shows what they're capable of
Hussies why

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>>82396320
This. It's why Act 4 worked great. Hussie hit a dead-perfect stride of characters to rotate between and give time to and talk to one another, and it was really good stuff. Then Act 5 happened. Then Act 6 checked in to the hospital room to make sure the plug was yanked.

>>82396337
Reread the early pesterlogs and remember a time before the lesbeans

That one where she educates Tavros on burning Dave was just superb

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>>82396280
Egbert laying out the harsh truth
>>82396320
I mean most of that was just garbage dave had lying around wasn't it?

>>82396372
>implying that Act 5 Part 2 wasn't amazing
I mean, Act 5 Part 1 was a real chore, but A5A2 was basically just the kids and their patron trolls, along with some extra trolls that had less screentime and thus intruded less.

>>82396398
She died and became an drunk, and then died again and became a cat

>>82396435
It wasn't. It had good moments, but it was clearly showing the cracks, and we had shit like Dave and John NOT TALKING FOR LITERAL YEARS.

>>82396280
>Dave's eyebrows

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I know Angel said the edge of the skirt looked weird last night; I still can't figure out how to fix it.

Can anyone offer advice?

>>82396398
Rose was always an ultradyke, Hussie just handled it with all of the grace and entertainment of a rusty grain thresher driving through a puppy show.

>>82396489
remove the skirt

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>>82396426
I love these dumb logs
So cute

>>82396489

Add a crease or two where the skirt meets dave's leg?

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>>82396521
god rose you are such a fucking LOSER

just complete L-to-head grade stupidass dropout l o s e r

>>82396515
Yeah no not really, it only ever came into fruition during act 6
Christ getting through the stuff where she was drunk was a chore

>>82396476
on point

>>82396489

With how the folds go the sense of volume between them both ends on that tangent where Jade's skirt ends and Dave's pants begin. It really flattens out right there and looks incredibly flat.

>>82396521
>People say act 5 Rose was bad

>>82396564
Dude come on she and Kanaya were doing the thing way early on, it was just, you know, not focused on to the exclusion of all else that made the character good, it felt natural for a little bit at first

The drunk shit was handled so fucking bad it amazed me, with her and Roxy, I feel like Hussie has never dealt with alcoholism in his life

>>82396565
you mean on fleek

>>82393450
How much longer will these threads be allowed? Remember when these were banned just for being on hiatus?

>>82396521
Don't worry, Hussie kills this friendship soon enough.

>>82396593
>I feel like Hussie has never dealt with alcoholism in his life
I wonder if he would do a better job writing it now then.

>>82396521
>the screaming will subside shortly
okay I need to reread

>>82396435
Act 5 Part 2 had so much great stuff. Remember the first walkaround? What a time to be alive.

>>82396604
I'll give it a week or two for it to be banned until the epilogue comes, then a bit more of discussion will be squeezed out, and then the general will be banned. Maybe it'll live on /trash/ until homestuck just dies as a whole? perhaps

>>82396635
he strikes me as the kind of guy who acts like he's too good or too 'clean' to ever touch anything scary like too much liquor or weed or whatever

probably pops pills like a hypocrite though, they all do in New England, would not be shocked if he was an adderall junkie, so god damn many college kids in Amherst were

>>82396635
damn that was ice cold

>>82396679
yeah but look at any recent picture of him. he lost his dad, his girlfriend, his game money and his fanbase. any one of those would drive someone to drink

>>82396750
>his girlfriend
unconfirmed

So liveblogger must have just hit Jade: Enter.

I'm sure it'll do wonders for their opinion of Vriska

>>82396750
He can cry me a fucking river at the grave of my mother and other dead friends then. Boo hoo hoo.

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>>82396521
Oh Hey here we go
I dunno Jade gets into the game without prototyping anything dooming all their shit
But since its a big fucking deal...
Okay jade gets tossed in, alternatively, the typhus corpse does making all of the imps and shit near denizen level. This drives bec apeshit and he fucks up the forge making Dave's guy go apeshit who then uses that giant ass disc to fuck time so hard it ruins the trolls session somehow

>>82396593
I have no contact with alcoholics besides squeezing past them when i leave work on saturdays. So tell me what exactly was off about how he handled Rose and Roxy

>>82396783
Why did vriska put john to sleep on the first place? I don't even remember

>>82396811
I'm just saying that Hussie has ample reason to drink

>>82396821
GET READY

>>82396821
I just wanna say, I love how all the kids have their own little load screen things

>>82396821
This all but confirms that Liveblogger isn't rusing. Her reaction'll be fun.

I love this quote about Hussie's dad

>Hussie works at one speed, slow.

>>82396843
because he was gonna put in a doll missing the other arm making jack have no arms and thus no fingers for rings. she wanted to make bec noir so she could kill him because "he is already here"

>>82396821
heh

>>82396821
Aw shit nigger he we go.

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>>82396840
I don't got the energy for the 2 hours of back and forth posts for that man. He skipped all recovery offscreen, Jane's comment, didn't do much to show how insidious working alcoholism is, didn't show much of the shitty horrible side of it and how it ruins shit, and just left it as this cheap airy soft character trait to add fake weight to empty characters.

>>82396821
Brace yourself for planet fucking JUPITER

>>82395319
Except she isn't. Karkat is a good Alternian troll, ironically enough. Loyal, violent when need be, hardworking, actually gets troll romance, gruff, etc. There's a good reason why Meenah, who is literally just young Condy, likes him quite a bit.

Vriska is a psychopath using troll society and her blue blood to get away with her immoral actions. People like her and Mindfang are dangerous to the empire as a whole, they're just good at gaming the system. They're unreliable.

That's why Vriska is a shit. She does whatever the fuck she wants. And while murder is okay, and crippling is okay, spending years mentally breaking down someone is not okay.

Similarly, Gamzee's shit is only okay because of his blood, the only caste allowed to get away with shit like that because people are too scared to consider the alternative.

>>82396843

Stated reason: So he couldn't prototype something that would have made Jack weaker, instead of what actually happened, as it would've caused a doomed timeline.

Honest reason: So Vriska could claim to be responsible for creating Jack, massaging her glory hound tendencies.

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>>82396821
Okay Jades thing has to do with Bec

>>82396821
No see that might have been cool

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>>82396935
BITCH DON'T DO IT

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>>82396949
HAHHAHA HOLY SHIT
TELEPORTING JACK CONFIRMED FOR SMASH

>>82396889
Karkat gets pissed at her for this later on. Vriska knows Bec Noir is here and creates him so she can kill him.

>>82396949
don't do these updates just watch it

>>82396929
Yeah that was another fun thing never explored, despite being kind and caring and a mutant, Karkat was sort of an ideal troll in his ethics

lol WHOOPS naaaah tears and shipping :^)

>>82396906
>didn't show much of the shitty horrible side of it and how it ruins shit
he showed a little at least with rose being functionally useless

>>82393450
What if someone did a homage to homestuck?
Now it's done and someone used same-ish art and story?

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>>82396964
Shit Becsprite murdered earf

>>82396967
>Vriska knows Bec Noir is here and creates him so she can kill him.
Oh yeah I forgot about that.
Jesus Christ she's a shittier character than I remember.

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>>82396995
YEAHYEAHYEAH
KICK HIS ASS

>>82395124
>I sincerely hope you're getting my ironic goat
ahaha you wish

>>82397013
HAHAHAHAHA

>>82396981
Believe me that didn't cover fucking shit, it was soft as hell, call me when Rose starts getting DT and wakes up doing a shot after vomiting for an hour while telling Dave in the middle of a bender he's a faggot

And halfway through promising to slow down she's sneaking drinks at every single chance she can while either packing on enormous weight or losing even more of it

Kanaya barely acted like anything was wrong, I swear after she died she just stopped being anything but bug-eyed complacent and quiet about everything

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>>82397013

>>82396987

There were about a billion of the things back when the MSPA forums were up.

Hell, Prequel came from there if I'm remembering correctly.

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>>82397079
AHHAHA GET FUCKED VRISKA YOU STUPID BITCH YOU RUINED IT ALL YOU TWAT

holy shit i remember homestuck

did john ever dick the evil troll girl

did jane ever become interesting

did rose do anything besides being a lesbian

did dave keep being fucking awesome

>>82396109
>Doomed timelines ended up being really fucking boring and pointless.
So like everything else in Homestuck then

>>82397061
Wow, projecting much you salty faggot?

>>82397101
Vriska is never done ruining things.

Never.

>>82397101
Sorry, Vriska is right and good and excellent and wins, this was all planned, the deaths of many are validated by her existence ::::^)

>>82397111
no
no
no
no

>>82397111
no, kind of but then no, no, yes but he's gay now

>>82397111
>did john ever dick the evil troll girl
No
>did jane ever become interesting
No
>did rose do anything besides being a lesbian
No
>did dave keep being fucking awesome
No

>>82397111
John wins the Roxybowl
No.
No.
Ahahaha, no.

>>82397114

It suddenly dawns on you that everything that just happened was a colossal waste of time etc etc.

>>82397111
>did john ever dick the evil troll girl
Which one? If you're referring to Vriska then no.
>did jane ever become interesting
Fuck no.
>did rose do anything besides being a lesbian
Fuck no.
>did dave keep being fucking awesome
Unfortunately no.

>>82397111
No
For a minute
No
Not really

>>82397111
>did john ever dick the evil troll girl
No

>did jane ever become interesting
No

>did rose do anything besides being a lesbian
No

>did dave keep being fucking awesome
No

>>82397128
>muh morals and fairness

Hussie is loling @ u

>>82397101
SHE DID IT ON PURPOSE

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>>82397101
That was a fucking ride god damn

>>82397165
CLICK THE NEXT PAGE

>>82397119
Hey if Hussie wants to actually introduce a serious and ugly problem into his shitty kid comic and treats it like a buffoon then I'm gonna judge him for it

>>82397131
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>>82397158
sweet jesus

i'm allmost afraid to ask but how did they fuck up dave?

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>>82397061
>~60 neighbor became a hard alcoholic after her husband died
>became so far into the bottle she became damn near catatonic
>shit herself numerous times, so drunk she couldn't move herself off the couch
>health deteriorated
>hardcore depression

alcoholism isn't a joke.

But I fucking hate Rose and wish this happened to her.

>>82397198
He became gay for Karkat and started ranting about toxic masculinity.

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>>82397165
I don't wanna read anymore
:(

>>82397198
he became gay for kk no joke

>>82397111
>did john ever dick the evil troll girl
a dead alt-universe john did
>did jane ever become interesting
almost but no
>did rose do anything besides being a lesbian
no
>did dave keep being fucking awesome
sorta

>>82397198
>i'm allmost afraid to ask but how did they fuck up dave?

*SCREAMS EXTERNALLY*

>>82397198
You talking about Dave "Dick in my hole is your goal" Strider?

>>82397198
He spends the post retcon arc talking about how bad society imposed masculinity fucked him up. He's also fucking Karkat.

>>82397198
He went on an unironic rant about toxic masculinity when he was asking Dirk how to come out as gay to his friends.
That should tell you enough.

>>82397221
RIP in Peace, a true american hero

>>82397221
It gets worse.

>>82397196
>humanity gets fucking murdered
>lol it's a joek
>people get stabbed to death
>JOEK HAHA

>girl gets hooked on alcohol
>NO DO IT RIGHT!!!!! DO IT RIGHT!!!! ;_;

you're a fucking imbecile

>>82397221
Just you wait, it gets sadder.

>>82397221
It's okay. Bro was an abuser who emotionally scarred Dave.

>>82397237
those were 2 separate convos faggot

>>82397208
Don't worry. Rose never did her Land so will forever be a dull and stunted child at heart, and her Mom died thinking her own daughter hated her. She never told Mom she loved her, and now she never, ever, ever can, for the rest of eternity.

Rose is a failed human being.

>>82397221
>toxic male abuser gets what he deserves

>>82397221
Fuck man, I loved bro
Where the fuck did DS run off to??
Also does karkat not fucking realize that Vriska has been royally fucking the kids session?
Some fucking leader

>>82397271
But Vriska did NOTHING wrong in the way she dealt with Tavros

::::^)

>>82397283
>Also does karkat not fucking realize that Vriska has been royally fucking the kids session?
No, why would he think she's that retarded?

>>82397291
>Implying Tavros "Worst HS Character Ever" Nitram didn't deserve everything and more.

>>82397267
Are you thick or did you not notice the fact that the comic itself treated the condition as being 'serious' while also being flippant and loose-handed with it

We're agreeing with each other you fuckwit, my entire POINT is don't use alcoholism and take it seriously in the story if you haven't taken anything else like that seriously up to that point

>>82397217
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>>82397237
dear god they made dave gay

but he was into terezi wasnt he?

sweet jesus. john isnt gay is he? they didnt turn john gay?

wait a minute dave ended up with karket? i like karket but where the fuck did that pairing come from?

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>>82393450
will we ever go back to something simple as problem sleuth

>>82397275
Really? I guess I didn't exactly remember because most of what happens post-retcon was blocked from my memory.

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>>82397329
glub glub SHRUG

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>>82397221
>>82397283
OH! So thats what those represented
Man I feel retarded
>>82397317
Its fucking vriska, that should be all the evidence he needs she can't be trusted with her kinds of powers

>>82397329
They didn't, you're getting memed. Karkat is into Dave at the end though.

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>>82397278
I can't believe andrew unironically, as an author, allowed to rose to retain her hubris about the game and not punish it at all past seer descend.

Goddammit, I'm mad.

>>82397329
terezi didn't need him.

>>82397267
Hussie was clearly attempting to tackle Real Teen Issues in a serious manner toward the end of Homestuck
Dave got an after school special about coming out

>>82397332
Nope. Hussie fucked up and it's going to haunt him for the rest of his creative life. Which appears to be over already.

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>>82397329
>but he was into terezi wasnt he?
yes
> john isnt gay is he? they didnt turn john gay?
John "Empty a Mag into a Fag" Egbert is safe
>wait a minute dave ended up with karket? i like karket but where the fuck did that pairing come from?
yes and it got shoved on us with no development or foreshadowing whatsoever. the thing is that they could have been a good couple if it was developed, but it wasn't

>>82397329
>but he was into terezi wasnt he?
retconned

No, john's not gay

>>82397355
karkat pretty much became eridan minus cool cape, didn't he

>>82397356
She's a Light player she's lucky you see she can avoid all consequence for her actions and waddle through life with a vacant idiot smile

Light is clearly best aspect

>>82397329
>but he was into terezi wasnt he?
John went back in time and told Terezi not to date either Karkat or Dave, thus retroactively erasing their relationship.
>sweet jesus. john isnt gay is he? they didnt turn john gay?
Have no fear, John is not a homosexual.
>wait a minute dave ended up with karket? i like karket but where the fuck did that pairing come from?
Now isn't that the fucking question?

>>82397329
John's straight, he gets with Roxy and Terezi hate-flirts with him a bit.
Also Hussie decided to rewrite a good section of homestuck with a retcon power he gave to John. As a result of John's changes Terezi didn't try to get with Dave or Karkat, which apparently somehow turned them gay. Oh yeah, Vriska was also brought back to life by the way.

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>>82397329
>john isnt gay is he? they didnt turn john gay?
No, he's banging Rose's mum

>>82397356
>I can't believe that Hussie, author of MSPA, didn't do the VERY OBVIOUS AND BLATANT THING

Double Death of the Author might just be for you!

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>>82396517
wow you figured it out anon.

>>82396551
>>82396568
I'll give that a try, thanks a lot!

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>>82397427
MOTHER OF CHRIST

900% BONER INCREASE

>>82397283
>some leader
Yeah that's his deal, but he sorts grows up from what I remember.

I don't think it's ever addressed if anyone actually realizes how much of a fuck Vriska actually is. Like, she gets confronted individually, but no one ever thinks about until she's directly in their face.

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>>82397352
Man WV is a cheeky lil cunt

>>82397356
Why does /hst/ get so worked up over Rose not playing the game properly even though her session was fucked from the start?

>>82397452
Hussie is so lazy and bad in his writing that it becomes painfully clear that Vriska is simply given narrative allowance to do whatever the story needs to have done, and nobody will actually stop and go "Maybe she needs to be counseled/ignored/imprisoned/erased"

It just happens because she's Vriska, Hussie's narrative wrecking ball and crutch

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>>82397440
I remembered that see-through tights post from last night just for you anon.

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>people wanted every character to completely 100% solve their individual issues and problems by the end of the story in one neat bow

NEVER

WRITE

A

STORY

Okay so all I remember about Homestuck is a boy standing in his room on his birthday, don't tell me Hussie ruined it with a bunch of SJW garbage.

>>82397501
because she explicitly avoided it.

Even Jade, John and even Dave to a small extent played the game.

Rose, from entrance, decided to tell the game to go fuck itself regardless of it being entirely beneficial to play it properly.

>>82397501
John and Jade found the time.

>>82397356
she became a useless lesbian isn't that punishment enough? to never know the glory of John's mangrit unloading in her

>>82397548
>Rose, from entrance, decided to tell the game to go fuck itself regardless of it being entirely beneficial to play it properly.

Because that's her FUCKING CHARACTER

>>82397501
Personally, I thought the Scratched session would have fixed everything, and the kids would finally be able to finish their game properly.

Instead the grist hoard immediately got released for no reason, and then they easily won? I don't get it.

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>>82397427
nice

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>>82397481
Man theses backgrounds are fucking gorgeous

>>82393450
Good, it was terrible. I torture read through some of it, so... yea, its bad

>>82397501
Because she was a grouchy little pissbitch idiot about it for literal in and out of comic years to the point that she turned into a gross parody of the person we thought she'd be back in Acts 1-4. It turned into an unbelievable and exhausting parade of avoiding anything interesting, or, you know, character developing. There was no development, and you get tired real fast of a character stamping their foot and being snitty about things over and over and over and over to no resolution or point.

>>82397532
Anon, we didn't want 100% resolution of personal issues, we wanted ANY RESOLUTION. There was none. Nothing was ever made of anything. Shit that came up got dropped into the void, or left to hang at the end of the story like massive festering wounds. The kids who went through that door are fucking damaged.

But yeah, Hussie didn't write a story.

>>82397532
>Characters don't need arcs!
t. Andrew Hussie

>>82397532
it would be nice if at least some of them did

>>82397579
Well it wasn't that easily but yeah. the grist got released and they made the universe

>>82397532
isn't one of the points of sburb to do just that so you don't have underdeveloped retards ruling your new universe?

>>82397548
She avoided it because she inherited memories from her doomed self, she knew playing the game straight wouldn't work.

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>>82397532
you're an even larger faggot if you thought how homestuck ended was good.
>>82397577
rose is a shit character.

>>82397501
Because Sburb is about challenging the kids and making them do shit they don't want to do, BUT for some stupid fucking reason Rose is an exception to this. She didn't like that the game had packed up her quest all nice and neat so she decided not to do it. And you know what? The game actually fucking let her instead of making her do it. Rose apparently doesn't have to do JACK SHIT if she doesn't want to because fuck you.

>>82397532
HEY FAGGOT

ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES

SOMETIMES YOU CAN ESCAPE CASUALITY THROUGH FLUKES AND THE LIKE BUT YOU CAN'T WILLFULLY IGNORE REALITY AND COME OUT AHEAD

ERGO IPSO FACTO FAGGO ROSE BEING A PRETENTIOUS LESBO SHIT SHOULD HAVE BIT HER IN THE ASS

>>82397592
>callie destroys the green sun.gif

>>82397577
>Because that's her FUCKING CHARACTER

I guess her character is kind of dull and unnecessary then. Because she didn't do anything with it but die a lot and be nasty to people about it.

>>82397501
Because the incredible possibilities of what completing the quest might entail, you know little things LIKE CREATING A FUCKING UNIVERSE, she just decides she doesn't wanna just because she hates the idea she'll actually improve and realize what a shitty person she is/was

>>82397619
that's not the reasoning the comic used.

Rose was a good and entertaining character before the end of act 5 when she decided to just mindlessly carry out the will of Skaia and her girlfriend for the rest of her days; I wish that wouldn't have been "developed" out of her

>>82397626
Consider Caliborn: If you work toward something as hard as you can, the game considers that character development and bends over for you.

>>82397577
THE GAME IS SUPPOSED TO CHALLENGE YOU TO DO WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO!

>>82397626
The trolls didn't play their games right either. Eridan spent the whole time killing angels, and everyone that we know of except kanaya killed their denizen outright and even she killed Echidna too.

>>82397660
Rose's punishment for rejecting Skaia's authority is that godmagic made her completely submissive to it

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>>82397626
I wouldn't have been bothered by this, and I think this is the clarification needed, if there had been A NARRATIVE PURPOSE OR CONSEQUENCE TO IT.

She flipped off her game, and uh. Ok. She became a God anyways. If they had actually made a point to say "Good job Rose that was actually the quest, we got ya good" and she had a little meltdown laugh over it, as an example, it would have been ok.

And if she had kept up the possession thing, and actually became an ENEMY in her fucked up need to ruin the game, turning on her friends in psychosis as she insists they're wrong, wow! That'd be conflict! Neat!

Otherwise it was just like, ok. Rose doesn't wanna play. Soooo... I guess she can just stand there, then.

Riveting.

Settle down and talk to me about how Dave and Karkat each cry during sex. Is it just regular tears while they tense up or is there sobbing and shit?

>homestuck is dead
REJOICE

>>82397681
Yes, and they were punished for it.

>>82397512
>mfw i was the one who posted that see through post
fuck yes my posts paid off

>>82396593
Not really
Felt more or less just friendship junk before act6 shat on her

>>82397380
I still can't fucking believe Dave went gay.

>>82397681
remember how the trolls not talking to their denizens, not doing their quests and rushing through the game was symbolic of their overall failure?
Remember how 5/8's of the kids did just the very same thing?

Rose is a cunt that deserves to be shot
Dave is a literal and non-literal faggot
Jane is a non-character
Jake is a retard
Dirk is a whiny bitch

Act 6 of this shitty comic was one-grand cop out that took like 4 years to "complete".
Remember to buy the fucking kikestarter game you fucking aspies. Don't worry about quality, there'll be plenty new characters to ship.

>>82397724
We are, right now, maggots in its corpse.

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>>82397532
You can fuck right off with your "good writers subvert expectations" bollocks.

Setting up a plot point and character arc and then not carrying through with it is a waste of time

If you're the Cohen Brothers then you can make an entire point about how it being a waste of time IS the point, but I can assure you, Andrew Hussie is not the Cohen Brothers

Fuck he's barely above Max Landis

With Hussie's abandoned character arcs, he's not making a "statement." What he's doing is just ignoring shit he set up so he can just rush to the fucking end

Which you know, is understandable, but don't try and fucking tell us that OBVIOUS flaws in the writing are actually the mark of GOOD writing

>I FUCKING HATE ROSE SHE DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY SBURB
>IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ME I SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN SBURB WHY DIDN'T THE GAME PICK ME I WOULD HAVE PLAYED

>>82397681
Dirk had Yaldy, who went to caliborn through the Union Jack black hole, and Alt-cali had Echidna, who presumably went there the same way.

those two aside, denizens seem to correspond to aspects. Dirk is a Heart player - pls tell me nep killed yaldaboob

>>82397716
Dave called Karkat 'Bro' and it really weirds him out

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>>82397592
I AM SHITTING WITH FURY AT THIS REVELATION

>>82397726
rose died. and then died a version of her that was actually thinking about playing the rain died again and came back as a cat to annoy the version that still didn't want to do her quest

>>82397777
>Dirk had Yaldy, who went to caliborn through the Union Jack black hole, and Alt-cali had Echidna, who presumably went there the same way.
I don't think it worked like that.

>>82397724
EPILOGUE

>>82397805
Vriska will never fail and everything she does is for your own good so please die for her thanks ::::^) ::::^) ::::^) ::::^) ::::^) ::::^) ::::^) ::::^)

This never stops. Ever. Not once.

I hope the epilogue has more caliborn in it
I hope he roasts the ending

>>82397418
>John went back in time and told Terezi not to date either Karkat or Dave, thus retroactively erasing their relationship.
I thought that was just about Karkat.
Why would Hussie erase one of the more entertaining interactions?

>>82397777
Yalda bro is for hardcore players not heart players

>>82397716
>during sex

With who?

Dave doesn't cry during sex because it upsets Jade and makes her think that he doesn't want her.

>>82397773
RIDF please leave.

>>82397813
You know what would have been an ACTUAL SUBVERSION? And funny?

If Rosesprite did her Land's quest and was rewarded. Just stole it right from Rose, driving her dull ass even deeper into the spades.

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>>82397805
Just close your eyes, it'll all be over soon

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Caliborn is the villain because he is masculine
Caliborn is the villain because he tries hard
Caliborn is the villain because he doesn't let feelings slow him down
Caliborn is the villain because he doesn't buckle under pressure
Caliborn is the villain because no matter how great his problems he always presses on
Caliborn is the villain because he's not afraid to speak his mind, even if it means he hurts peoples' feelings
Caliborn is the villain because he dared to have dreams of being an artist
Caliborn is the villain because not afraid to do things alone and doesn't need a shoulder to cry on
Caliborn is the villain because he accepted fate and didn't act like a spoiled brat about it
Caliborn is the villain because he's everything modern society demonizes

The real Rose died at the heart of the Green Sun three years ago, bowing out of the comic simultaneously with Doc Scratch since both sensed the comic was about to go to absolute shit. The girl who replaced her is a shitty doppleganger.

>>82397850
Will it be drawn in homosuck style

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>>82397611
>>82397612
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>>82397618
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>>82397637
>>82397765
thanks for the replies LOL

>>82397805
You're going to have a little aneurysm if this keeps up. Mentally prepare yourself for the worse.

Real talk /hst/: Do you guys want Hiveswap Act 1 to be good? Would you rather have Hiveswap Act 1 bomb and move on, or rather have Hiveswap Act 1 era park the magic of old Homestuck, forcing you back onto the train with no assurance it won't just derail again?

>>82397878
that would have been so sweet

one good thing

i mean

yeah turning dave gay sounds horrid and shipping him with karket sounds fucking crazy

but one good thing is that you guys seem to be talking about the story

i dropped homestuck cause i remember the threads being filled with tripfags and roleplayers and i couldnt talk ab uout it anymore

>>82397860
>implying she isn't squeezing him half to death or some shit

>>82397883
Did you miss the part where Hussie said Caliborn would be inspiring if he wasn't an awful person who hates everybody

>>82397900
I don't care to see shit happen in a setting we already knows burns to death.

Have you guys considered that maybe Rose and the rest of the kids did their quests once Vriska got retconned to be alive again?

>>82397900
If it is good we get more Joey porn! I love Joey!

>>82397893
yw

>>82397883
>Caliborn is the villain because he's everything modern society demonizes
Sure mate, whatever you say.

>>82397888
So your saying Doc replaced Rose. And it's only during fast and loose that we can see the truth?

>>82397900
I want it to be such a big disaster andrew publicly apologizes and commits suicide to restore his honor.

>>82397941
I hate Joey! She stole two million dollars and ruined Homestuck!

>>82397805
Like okay Time loops I get, but fuck why does she need to be so smug and self assured about it
For fucks sake she's got a hit on her head already from whatever the fuck scratch is!
Hm. I wonder if scratch is some form of that jack that wanted to fuck with slick. I mean jack technically knows manners.
Also about how far am I? Id like to wrap up act 5 before midnight, am I close?

>>82397923
imo caliborn is inspiring despite that

>>82397900
I paid $200 for Hiveswap and I think I'd be happier if it just met with a quick, painless death.

>>82397869
> MUH GAME!
> SHE NO PLAY GAME!