HYW/How's Your Webcomic? #264

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag

Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:

>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/

>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV

>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' or 'scribblehatch' and they'll add you in.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ0lck7oo4A

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

Now then. Post responsibly.

>>82328324
>slowly puts away the everclear

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coloured another panel

>>82329635
fuckin love your shrubs, dude. top quality shrub'ry

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>>82329265

Hey janitor we need your help at the moment. Look.
>>82330045
Nah nah dude.

Report that post when you see it. Don't reply.

>>82330205
Put your trip back on.

>>82330248
But anon how do you type those words for the 50th time and resist the urge to cave your own face in with a wrench?

>>82330309
this doesn't make logical sense as a sentence.
try again.

So how bout them comics eh? How's your storyboarding coming along?

>>82330729
>this doesn't make logical sense as a sentence
Uh, fuck you? Explain how.

>Want to tell stories based on real world events
>Not sure where the cut-off point is for context. (because most of the events i want to do are a perfect chain, and if you cut the chain too soon they're never as amusing or cathartic.)
>Comic isn't set in real life so don't want the entirety of history to be real events.
:^(

>>82330899
i THINK i understand what you mean..
Just let the context be implied. and if it's not real life, then make it allegories. people will get it. anyone familiar with lincoln will understand why the tall-hatted copper emperor was assassinated without you having to explai their version of the civil war

>>82330899
Be very careful about doing a "ripped from the headlines" story. It's extremely difficult, if not impossible, to do one and not have it almost immediately feel dated.

>>82329635
I like this. Cool character design.

If I could change anything, I would draw less visual noise. The little marks all over the place are too much. Less is more, I'd say.

>>82331041
shit i love those marks. they give a feeling of texture
however that only works if things are MEANT to be kinda rough and rubbly and scrubbly.

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I've started working with non photo pencils again. Gonna be inking these character portraits to finalize these character designs. So hyped~

>>82331150
Her boobs are different sizes and shapes.

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>>82331207
But to be fair, she's holding her arm up so that'd definitely affect the shape.

>>82331207
It's because her arm's up. I'd think that would be right, since it would be raised a bit, yeah?

>>82331150
>that hand

>>82331150
Her hands back to front. The thumb would be on the inside

>>82331373
Actually, the hand is correct.

>>82331373
>>82331479
Yeah, I think it's supposed to be correct, but that line that goes through the palm really should not be there, at least not like that.

>>82331560
I just realized that I fucked that part up.
I guess I should be investing in white out? Does white out show up after being scanned? I've never actually had to white anything out after inking before.

>>82331373
>>82331479
>>82331560
The thumb's on the correct side, but the whole palm is fucked up.

>>82331633
Does this pencil not erase?

>>82331675
It does, but I only realized it after >>82331560 pointed out the line. I had already inked the hand by the time I looked at the thread.

A boy and girl, love, etc etc.

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>>82331633
I have no experience with white-out, but I guess it works and doesn't show in the scan (after some modifications). It's important to be sure the pencils are ''correct'' and ready before inking. I know your pain when you realize, usually mid-inking, that the picture doesn't really work.

Anyway, that's why I'm in love with digital drawing at the moment. I drew my own hand real quick to show how it ''should'' look like more or less. Obviously I'm not perfect either, but I tried.

>>82332043
memes find a way

>>82331710
Ah. In my limited experience with inking I've preferred to just start over. Depends how far through you are though.

>>82332152
Thank you, I'll keep that as a reference if you're cool with that.

>>82332295
I decided to start over anyways, it was good practice getting back into physical inking.

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>>82332422
Sure. It's just a sketch.

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Gonna start designing characters for my slice of life college comic. A bunch of college kids take a weird elective film class and go on wacky adventures or whatever.

>>82332809
would fuck

>>82332809
might be fun!

>>82332843
>>82332861
Well with that response, I guess I could make a quick first comic...

>>82332809
>slice of life college comic
There are a lot of those.
How are you going to stand out?

>>82333475
art is pretty sexy so far for one. if it has good art, it'll already stand out

>>82333490
That may have been true 15 years ago but there are way too many "good art" webcomics now/

>>82329635
I like this a lot.
Minor quibble: I think her hand should maybe be more clutched against the moss in the last color panel. It looks kind of flat to me now.

>>82331633
I've used white out and white guache. They both work, but it is easier, imo, to just fix the problem digital.
These days I try to plan the fuck out of everything to avoid the necessity of this.

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CUT MY COMIC INTO PIECES
SHOOT MYSELF IN THE HEAD
NO READERSHIP
NO PROSPECTS
WHY AM I STILL IN THIS THREAD

>>82334714
Yeah, we get it, you did this last thread.

>>82334714
>WHY AM I STILL IN THIS THREAD

Nigga I've been in these threads since it was in the single digits and I still don't even have a comic.
I've come to the conclusion that these threads are uber comfy, and it's nice to chat as well as give feedback to people who share the same hobby as you, especially since there aren't really a whole lot of good comic creation communities.

Just know we're all in this thread for the same thing. You're in good company.

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>>82334009
good shout

I thought something was off there too

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thoughts?

>>82335134
you've got the knack alright. i'm convinced now you're going to have enough funny ideas for these two

>>82335153
feels good to hear, thanks man

>want a character based on my mental issues partly as a vehicle to doing something with my life and moving forward
>if i get through them i'll no longer be able to write that character properly, but if i make them 'get better' they won't be identifiable to anyone else who can understand the problems.
sometimes i think the only times i get creative is when creating problems.

>>82335284
i think people want to see those identifiable people getting better

>>82335346
but they're not better themselves so it just removes their identifiability while not providing a practical solution since it's almost certainly (a) irrational or (b) largely beyond personal control
at least that's usually how i see it. "oh, i thought they were like me, but nope. that solution is either impossible to recreate or outwith my reach. looks like i'm still alone."

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>>82334857
you don't know the feel of staying up late working on an update, then waking up to 0 new views.

>>82334714
>>82335463
Get lost.

>>82335463
If you don't enjoy making comics for yourself then maybe you should consider picking up a new hobby. Do something you love.

If you're making comics for attention you're in the wrong game buddy. The chance to strike gold with a webcomic these days is pretty slim.

>>82335493
It's not a proper /hyw/ until that guy who roleplays as a depressed webcomic creator shows up.

>>82335463
create for creations sake you turbo memester

>>82335621
how do you know he's role playing?

>>82335621
H-haha, yeah, i'm just roleplaying my depression!

;_;

>>82335642
When people ask him to show his comic he never does.

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>>82328254
Drawing is hard ;_;

>>82335783
maybe he's just embarrassed. actual posters make up a small minority of 4chan users. I imagine there are a lot of lurkers who keep their comics to themselves, probably because it's embarrassing 1 page per 2 week deviant art tier garbage.

>>82335408
>not providing a practical solution
i thought it went without saying that you write that part in. you're writing something based on your own experiences, so you write in how it got better for you.

>>82336108
oh hey, newcomer?

>>82336108
Honestly I kinda like the drawings style-wise, but the coloring isn't that good. The colors are overly saturated and blotchy.

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>>82336152
I posted last week lol.
No, I tried making a comic a few years ago but I didn't feel any connection to the characters so I'm doing another.
All of these characters are based off of other OCs squeezed together so now I feel more comfortable or something I guess.
I just want to practice drawing in general.
>>82336230
That's the point in a way but I want to make the shading look better.

>>82336111
A lurker wouldn't do a "woe is me" post every fucking thread.

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>>82328254

hmm... work on my webcomic or play more video games

webcomic or videogames

hmmm....

think i'll go play more video games and watch more netflix and youtube ^^

im out of here, im to cool for this place, see ya losers!

just joking, not all of you are losers, just cuz im horribly addicted to video games doesn't mean you have to be, to the people taking there webcomics more seriously than i am you have to do your best guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELv8yBJi-Kc

you have to!

>>82335134
>thoughts?
Where was that cat when I needed him? Now it is too late for me to quit.

>>82336296
whoa, neat demon. reminds me of Goetia somehow

>>82335134
I love this. I'll make you some fan art later.

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I gotta learn to draw well to make a comic I hope six months of learning and determination will help me get where I want to be.

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>>82336521
Follow your dreams :la:

>>82336521
if you drew this, that's pretty good

>>82335408

That's why you make them grow by having them make do with what they've got, you dumb faggot.

No one is perfect. People cope with their problems in different ways. No one is going to have an epiphany and suddenly be all better (that's not how it works IRL). Recovering bit by bit and growing with their friends along the way is WAY more compelling than "hurrdurr I psycho now im not".

Also, develop them beyond their mental issues holy shit. No one's going to care about them if they're just one note incarnations of your problems.

Reiterating request for advice on obtaining non-repro/non-photo blue pencils in Australia. Also does Bristol Board go by another name down here? I'm having difficulty finding either item.

Riot Art is eternally useless, Officeworks doesn't have them, and my local newsies have all shut up shop...

>>82336521
Drawing well is not a prerequisite for making a comic. Just wait until Dewd posts his latest progress.

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>>82336630
Thanks Anon I'll try!
>>82336666
Haha I wish! its Re Cyborg 009 its a good read.

>>82336825
Drawing well means alot to me though. Also sorry but I don't know who this Dewd is.

>>82336630
alright i'll ask, what's with the crossed out name thing

>>82336967
Speaking of Dewd, what happened to that one comic artist who drew barefooted fairies?

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>>82337025
you're going to have to get more specific..

>>82337025
Which one.
The first few that come to mind are >>82337063
and that other artist who has been working on the same page for like a year or two.

>>82337101
nah urchin's not a fairy, right? she's some kind of ultrahippie but a human
the other one that comes to mind would be green knight, that has fairies

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>>82337018
Her name is Paprika and goes by the nickname "Pop" by every other character except her best friend, green eyes.
It just indicates he's making fun of her and she knows it. He supposed to be "punny" or some shit but always looking cranky.
I-I'll make a note to make it more comprehensible in the comic later.

>>82337063
I think that was it.

>>82337186
still around.
would finish a comic tonight, alas, last-minute replacement shift at work
and again tomorrow. yeesh

I hate that one guy around here. You know the one.

(Oh fuck, is the anon above talking about me? I hope not..)

So, what are you guys's reasons for wanting to make a webcomic?

I have a lot of stories I want to tell. And I want to be good enough to have enough readers that I can visibly throw the fandoms into turmoil with all the twists and turns I've got cooking.

I won't lie. I really want a slice of the glory pie too. I know that it'll never be the case, but in my heart I like to believe in all my delusions of grandeur that I'm a good-enough writer with interesting takes on tropes that even a total social autist like me could get legions of adoring fans. God, I want to make people feel things so bad.

Now if only I would get off my ass and learn how to draw. Unfortunately said ideas REALLY need me to be able to convey subtle emotion.

>>82337539
I want to draw pretty pictures.
I also wish someone would draw smut fanart of my stuff.

>>82337539
I think a lot of us in that share those sentiments. You can look at some of the fan bases around /co/ like RWBY or SU however you want, but you have to admire the creators of those series for being able to create something to rally enough of a crowd to keep generals going, discussing things from lore to predicting what's going to happen next to waifu/shipping shit.
I hope I can create something like that as well. I want to jump in anonymously and speculate with the readers for fun, or drop little hints that will get readers wondering what the fuck is going to happen.

At the end of the day though this is all for my amusement. I've been drawing comics since I was really young with just some printer paper and a mechanical pencil. So many good memories of rushing home from school so I could grab my drawing materials and sit down at the coffee table to some Cartoon Network/Toonami just to draw silly little comics for hours.
I just do it because it reminds me of some of the best times of my life.

>>82337539
I figured that if nobody else was going to write the comic that I would want to read, I'd do it.

Also writing is the only skill I've ever spent developing for the entirety of my worthless life so if I can make a living doing that, I'll have purpose. It's worth a shot, at least.

>>82337813

Well fuck, Anon. You've got more experience going for you than most of us.

Care to share? Maybe you can be the overseas equivalent of One.

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>>82337539
I like to write/draw webcomics because I just love to come up with ideas, settings, situations, characters, and plots. I'm always thinking on something new to try.

So far I've drawn about 5 or 6 webcomics, though I'm currently focusing on just two of them (three, technically, but these two are being weekly updated).

I don't deny I would like to do more with my stuff, but right Now I'm quite happy just knowing that people enjoy what I draw and write.

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>>82337539
I'm making up for my ability to not know how to use Unity by drawing comics of the game I want to make.

I read too much manga. All my comic ideas are weeb ideas where the characters have Japanese names and take place in Japan because they deconstruct common shounen and shoujo tropes.

Is there any hope for me, /co/?

>>82338274
I remember back when I used to do that when I was younger.
As always, first step is admitting it, second step is to fix it. You know it's no good for you, so you could just like... not do that as opposed to doing it.

>>82338236
That kinda sounds like me.
My comic was originally a game I was working on in Unity. I got really far in prototyping and was having fun, but making a game is very slow and time consuming with barely any reward apart from "Oh hey I made this object interact with this button" and being so amazed by it that you spend the better half of the day playing with it rather than making progress.

So I just quit and turned my idea into a comic.

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Finished this page!

>>82337539
Mimi is just practice because I forgot how to do...everything? She ended up kind of moving somewhat beyond her purpose though.

>>82337125
Urchin was talking to a fairy on the pages that were posted.

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okay this week.

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>>82339517
And Today!

>I didn't put dialogue yet.

>>82339561
Green girls are my fetish.
That better be a girl.

>>82336457
if you buy a cat now, in 15 years you too can be a crazy ghost cat person.

>>82336514
that'll be my first, i am delighted my man

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>>82339373

You wanna break up the last bubble into parts a la pic related (though not in this exact way for obvious reasons) to add comedic timing. So like

>Damn, I vas hoping zht ve vould be in an arena
>so I could rip off someone's head,
>show it to zhe audience,
>und make a top tier movie reference

>>82337539
>wanting to make a webcomic.
Man, it seemed like a good idea when I was 18. Seven years ago. Fucking Christ, I've been friends with my artist for seven years this August. Time fucking flies.

I guess I want to create because there is so much shit. So much inferior quality items out there. Because there is no barrier to entry. Because there is no gate with which to keep. And while these things can be awful, they can also be good. And I want to put out stuff that people can look at and see it as being of moderate consumable quality.

Honestly, I'd be better off going back to writing short stories and dating sims. But my project gets me excited, mostly because I'm able to do stuff with it that I wish other people would've done with their stuff.

So maybe I'm creating because I'm so easily disappointed with the lack of things I'd want to see. Or that I would have wanted to see when I was really into reading webcomics proper.

It is a curious place to be.

>>82338097
If that is a comic about cooking, I'm in. That's a fun little sub-genre that can be such a treat to look at.

>>82338274
Take a step back and question why you need it that way; or over-expose yourself to it and get burnt out; then what you've got left are the bare bones. I've been there with things before, you can get away from it. Though if you do a completely played straight story in Japan done by a westerner; more power to you.

I'd love to see a western directed style of Japanese Horror that utilizes the best of both worlds for the sake of causing discomfort and dread; rather than the usual dumbed down stuff.

>>82335463
Posting your shit here would guarantee views. Do not hide behind a mask, reveal your work and let it be viewed, judged, and potentially appreciated. If you do not venture, you do not gain; bucko.

>>82329635
This gunman interests me greatly.

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>>82339605
I really don't know either.

I was hoping someone else will point it out for me.

Is he boy or a girl?

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>>82337977
I'd hardly to call it experience.

I don't really know what I could share that you or anyone in the thread could take something away from.
I was never taught how to draw or how to write, nor did I do any of it as a job. I was just influenced by a lot of things. Comics, cartoons, movies, anime, games. Everything gave me ideas that excited me, and I wanted to express them, so I just turned those ideas into comics, which ended up being a lot of fun for me. I shared them with my friends and they all enjoyed them but that was it. I didn't have a scanner or a camera so it's not like I could upload them to some site for others to read. It was purely for my own amusement.
It was exciting, coming up with ideas and plot twists that surprised me and made me eager to put them on paper. Then eventually I had a full comic that I was very proud of since I made it. So i'd just keep reading it over and over, always amazed because it was something I created.

Sorry for the shitty image.
I have a box full of most of my old comics from around age 10 to 16 or whenever I stopped drawing for a long period of time. I made a lot of comics before age 10 too but lost them all.
Looking through it this is all just some crazy/edgy/autistic DBZ inspired "*teleports behind u*" shit, but it was a lot of fun to do and brought me a lot of enjoyment.
I'm debating printing a label titled "Autism Goldmine" to slap on the box.

This is why I do it though. I do it because it's something I enjoy doing. Everyone has something that they love doing and brings them lots of joy, so they just keep doing it. Even if I only have a one person audience i'll continue to do it, and I always have at least one person in my audience because I make my comics for me first and foremost.
This is why I'm in these threads. I enjoy seeing others who share the same passion as me and encouraging them in any way I can.
Do what you love.

Sorry for the wall of text.

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HEY.

What've you gotten done today?
Or started on?
Or continued chipping away at?

>>82340125

Hey, Scribblehatch.

I didn't know that You are black.

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>>82340125
3 pages of The Misadventures of Two Brats Stuck in Pugatory.

>>82340125

I wrote some more details in my character charts. Also fleshing out plot points.

Being too-lazy-to-start-on-the-comic-so-I'm-perpetually-stuck-in-planning-fag is suffering.

>>82340216
You're correct to be nervous. I mean, do start it eventually.

But don't think what's happening to you right now is some irrational fear.

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well you guys wanted me to post my comic, so here it is.
>>82339796
>>82336318

http://freakanimes.com/westtree/

Updated this!

http://omegaupdate.freeforums.net/thread/196/day-people?page=1&scrollTo=8127

>>82340938
Psh nah, I love making my webcomic and hanging out with my friends!

But either way, you guys are free to read the comic!

>>82329635
What the fuck is this and why isn't there more of it

This has peaked my interest

>>82340067
>tfw you have a similar plastic bin hidden away in your closet, full of notes and sketches for that webcomic dream you will never realize

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I felt like putting a link on my personal website to my comic but when I went on my wordpress, this comic was there.
It definitely was my artwork when I was 15 but what the fuck, I don't remember uploading this crappy comic anywhere.

>>82341135
Still better than half the shit on here

>>82341263
What's your comic, anon?

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>>82336349

alright im going to go ahead and finish this page tonight!

>>82336673
>growing with their friends
>having friends
Ha.
WHat a nice demonstration of the impracticality of certain solutions for certain people.

>>82341285
http://freakanimes.com/westtree/

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>>82341332

bump

>>82341865
>>82341285
>>82340938
ITT: dewd tries new methods of advertising

>>82341943
it's OK considering how little views it already gets and how no one who goes there will ever go back again.

fuck creativity, draw the same anime shit over and over until you die

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>>82341894

all it needs now is word balloons and a dead body behind the counter and its done!

>>82337539
To give my autistic self-insert fantasies a veneer of credibility while providing entertainment and hopefully getting people to like me for the first time in my life.

I'm not sure where the aggressive self-awareness in these factors is working in my favor by helping me make it less obvious, or if it just removes any excuse I might have had.

>>82342853

Is that directed at anyone in particular, or do you just delight in being as immense a faggot as possible?

>>82329635
I really dig this, aesthetically reminds me of nausicaa.

>>82343273
I don't even get it. No one here draws anime, as in big eyed people with 2 tone shading. Really don't get it.

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>>82342941

nope. i forgot i still need to shade it, doing that now :/

i added a bunch of napkins, shotglasses, bottles, and ashtrays, which i think adds more character and atmosphere to the background, what do yall think? :3

>>82344119
garbage. filtered

dead thread, dead comics. don't act like you fuckers have anything to do on a friday night

>>82335134
Perfec

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Oh hey, he's back.

http://vigormortis.co.uk/

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>>82344398

you know deep down its not, but if thats your destiny to filter me then you have to follow your dreams anon

also its not even close to being done yet, im almost done shading and it looks fuicking amazing, your loss for not being able to see it when its done anon

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What are some supernatural/mythological beings that you like, but don't see enough in fiction? In comics, tv, books, whatever.

>>82337539
Although I would like to create something more meaningful one day - a comic with engaging story, impressive art, and so on - right now the comic I'm working on is serving as practise. It's helping me get used to making comics, working to a regular deadline, and also steadily learn new things artistically. Because of that, I don't care too much about THIS comic getting views, so long as it does its purpose of getting me into the routine of practise.

However, when I do get around to a 'proper' comic I'll probably aim for the same thing you said about throwing your fandom into turmoil.
I used to write fanfics years ago and I fucking LOVED when readers were shocked by twists or couldn't wait til the next chapter and so on. It was great to think that something I'd created could have that effect on people. I'd like to create a webcomic one day that people get similarly invested in.

I don't care so much about fame or fortune. Dont get me wrong, it'd be nice to have a following and to earn money from my work, but I never expect to garner the legions of adoring/paying fans to the point where I can live off the comic earnings alone.

At the end of the day, it's a hobby that I enjoy and keeps me occupied enough to forget that I don't have a girlfriend

>>82345018
the hos come with the fame tho, so if you treat that hobby right with hard work and dedication, it'll treat you right with a ho or two

>>82345048
Yeah because all the top webcomic artists are swimming in pussy

>>82337539
I want people to talk about my characters the way they talk about ones from other comics and shows. i want there to be fandom, speculations, shipping, excitement over what's going to happen next.. i want people to give enough shits to fucking edit a wiki

and i want it to happen a long time ago, because if it happened now a lot of that would be pretty impossible.. since it's nearly over. or at least most of it is behind us.

>>82337813
oh i'm pretty sure you're me
>>82338236
you may also be me

>>82338274
You'll always have me as a fan, anon-chan.
but I'm probably not enough to satisfy you. If you go the same route everyone else always eventually does, and start tearing it out of yourself and tossing it in the trash, i'll understand.. but i'll be disappointed.

>>82345332
Not swimming. Drowning.

>>82339431
oh yeahhh
>>82340067
shit where can i get plastic tubs like that? my old comic is in a cardboard box.
i always wanted to get protective clear pages, but i drew it horizontally so i'd realllly want to get landscape holepunched ones.. and a landscape binder.. and i just cant find one of those that can hold 510-ish pages
yeah i think youre like, the better version of me

>>82341035
>Please verify you're not a spammer
>Click the WOMAN
theyre.. theyre all men. this is.. this site does not want me to post on it

>>82341943
>>82342285
I hope you don't genuinely think..
oh hell I'm probably talking to the same person doing it

>>82344976
oh man, I could spend all day. but off the top of my head:
>Tarasques
>Ahools
>Basilisks (proper ones. not mislabeled ones. that kinda goes for everything on this list)
>Lamiae (again. not what you're probably thinking)
>Cactus cats
>Splinter cats
>Calopi
>Dingoneks
>Gargoyles
>Gillmen
>Gumberoos
>Itsumaden
>Tsuchigumo
>Khallikantzaroi
>Krakens
>Manticores
>Mantygres (not the same thing!)
>Mapinguaris
>Minotaurs
>Morhons
>Nagas (seriously. i dont wanna see arms. get this shit right)
>Poleviki
>Tengu
>Vily
>Yuki Onna

as for things i see too goddamn much of:
generic ogre things and generic dwarf things. for god's sake, give them a TAIL or something. something so they arent just 'an ugly guy you saw once and wrote a story about'

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>>82345629
Wow, that's a lot of googling for me. Haven't heard over half of those names, but I'm glad you brought them to my attention.

I'm looking for something different and fresh for my occult detective comic, cause I'm so sick of vampires, werewolves and ghosts. Hopefully your suggestions will help.

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>>82344119

ok this is the official finished page art, just wanted yall to see it before i make the word balloons!

>>82344976
Krsnik
Veles
Rusalka
Gashadokuro
Nightmarchers


I also like when a common type of supernatural being is given an original spin.

A question to all:

Do your parents/close family/friends know about the comic you're working on? If not, why not? If so, what is their opinion on it?

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>>82345898
I find most tired monsters get a breath of fresh air if you bring them back to their roots.
I mean, werewolves being witches wearing magic belts rather than being a curse related to the phases of the moon, vampires that grow fat and bloated with blood in their graves while causing disease and death around them rather than Anne Rice-style bad boys, ghosts that, uh, okay ghosts actually get pretty close to vampires when you go back a bit but you get the point.

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>>82345938

And its done! I hope yall like it! ^^

more pages here if you havent read the yet: http://fates.thecomicseries.com/

*NOTE: just like my demon juice project there are two different stories in one here that take place on either a left or a right continent

in FATES all the cowboys and cowgirls are in the western continent and all the orcs and knights are in the eastern continent!

in DEMON JUICE all the demons are in america and all the witches are in london england/the u.k

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>>82346648

i forgot to mention FATES takes place on NIBIRU and DEMON JUICE takes place on EARTH

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Wrapping up this page. What's another cutesy hiking-related activity these two love birds could engage in for a silent panel?

>>82346910
Guy gentlemanly helping the girl over a brook?

>>82346955
Very cute idea. Independently decided on them stopping for some trail mix and granola bars, though. Thank you!

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>>82346648

Also BOOM! HEADSHOT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEnPLEuKbU

>>82346648
It'd be better to use commas before or after addressing a person.
>She's crazy baby.
and..
>I got this baby
..sound a bit silly and the lines lose their real meanings without the commas.

>>82341797

>Not having them make even a few friends along the way.

Faggot pls. It's not characters that make a story interesting - it's how people react to them.

>>82347226
>Not having them make even a few friends along the way.
In a character relatable primarily for their personal problems, "has friends" is an immediate relatability killer.

People can react to you without you having any friends.

>>82345018

>Although I would like to create something more meaningful one day - a comic with engaging story, impressive art, and so on - right now the comic I'm working on is serving as practise. It's helping me get used to making comics, working to a regular deadline, and also steadily learn new things artistically. Because of that, I don't care too much about THIS comic getting views, so long as it does its purpose of getting me into the routine of practise.

That my plan right now when I get around to it. Have a shitty little comic about a girl befriending monsters and getting them in her party and beating up humans (since the reverse is usually how it is).

>>82346147

>Do your parents/close family/friends know about the comic you're working on?

Only my best bro. Though it's only in it's planning stages.

>If not, why not?

No one else knows because I value my privacy and my family will blab to EVERYONE. The last thing I need is to slip up and have Tumblrinas sending them death threats.

>If so, what is their opinion on it?

My bro isn't "hype" per se, but she's looking forward to it. She even offered to be my artist once, but I said no since I'm a turbo autist would never be satisfied.

I appreciate her so much. ;_;

>>82347477
she's probably on a chad's dick right now

>>82346910

Climb a tree.

>>82347275

>>82347275

That's why they make them along the way instead of having them from the getgo.

They don't need to be a social butterfly. Having one or two friends they learn to open up to and rely on makes it more compelling.

If you just make them be like "NO. NO FRIENDS EVER.", THAT'LL kill the relatability unless you only wanna resonate with emo teenagers.

>>82343384

I will when I get around to it.

Coloring takes time. Animu eyes are expressive. I want to get as much content out as possible before I keel over.

>>82347506

>Implying
>Also implying that it would matter

Bros are for friendship, not romance. I don't care what she does so long as we can still hang out and watch animu once in a while.

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New page! What do you guys think?

>>82347528
>That's why they make them along the way instead of having them from the getgo.
and their relatability dies when they make them because the method they use isn't re-creatable.
if it's supposed to be a personal story, and it's written by an author with no friends for people with no friends, giving them friends only works when the author makes friends and is writing from experience, and from that point on the relationship between the author and the reader is fucked.

is crab-bucketing a good idea? no, but if you're one of the crabs out of the bucket don't expect those still trapped inside to relate to you when you got lucky in escaping.

>>82347668
Man she even has a themed motorcycle, this comic is ticking all my boxes

also
>in4rush
I never get tired of license plate gags

>>82346147
My friends do but my family doesn't. I will never tell my family until I'm making substantial supplemental income from my comic, if that ever even happens, because I don't want to let them down. I've already let them down so much already.

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Since a buncha people in the last thread liked the pic of Jam & B in party-wear, I doodled another before work.

Also just finished layin out the next update for The Sisters. Hoo-boy. Buckle the fuck up, kiddos.

(Pic from last thread: i.imgur.com/ASMlVrP.png)

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Here I am again, hey.
I rediddled the thing I did like a few months ago.
Hi.
1/3

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>>82348197

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>>82348207

>>82348098
>because I don't want to let them down. I've already let them down so much already.
You and me both, man

>>82346147
>>82348098
I know that feel. I think I'm more afraid of the likely outcome that I'll tell them and they just don't give a fuck, see it as some worthless hobby. I think I'd rather them not know than not care.

>>82346147
My mom knows but I don't tell her about the subject matter. She asks too many questions. I'm also afraid she will yell at me about how it's demonic.
My friends are very supportive. They read all my updates and give me feedback and vote for me on TWC.

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Does anyone just look at webcomics as a whole and just feel underwhelmed sometimes?

Don't get me wrong, I love making my comic, but like... 1 page a week is just such an underwhelming amount of content and information to feed to your audience every week.
I just feel like it's severely underwhelming sometimes and i'm kidding myself thinking i'm keeping anyone entertained with a couple frame page week-by-week.

I just wish I could produce more content or present it in a way that there was more for the readers every week.

Any thoughts or input on the matter?

>>82349063
Who says people are reading 1 strip a week though?
I can't stand reading story-based comics a page a week. If I discover one I like, I usually a) go back to page 1 and read everything so far, and b) bookmark the site and come back in several months, when there's a huge chunk of stuff to read at once.

>>82349063

I dream of someday being able to release a 20-page chapter per week a la Shonen Jump.

Black and white with screen tone and only the occasional color page. Coloring takes a long time. I wouldn't bother unless it's vital.

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>>82339796
>If that is a comic about cooking, I'm in. That's a fun little sub-genre that can be such a treat to look at.
Not exactly. Bits & Bytes is a webcomic about a restaurant for videogame characters, so it's mostly focused on videogames.

There are a few pages about cooking, though. Pic very related; Gretha can't cook.

>>82349222

So sorta like MGDMT? Nice.

>>82349063
Most people read several webcomics, so even if each one is just updating at a page a week that's still a lot of content for the reader. Very, VERY few people read JUST ONE webcomic.

Reply to this post with the number of webcomics you're keeping up with right now.
>7

>>82349365
38

>>82349411
Fucking hell, dude. Even at my peak in high school I was only reading 25-30 webcomics. You have a problem.

>>82349274
>MGDMT
More or less, yes; except that my art is nowhere nearly as awesome as that.

>>82349430
I work shifts so I have a lot of free time. Also I am >>82349175 so when I say 'keeping up with' a lot of them are on the backburner to be archive binged every couple of months

having no girlfriend/hardly any friends probably helps

>>82349560
>a lot of them are on the backburner to be archive binged every couple of months
That doesn't count, fuck outta here.

>>82349579
Fair enough, only counting the ones I check at least once a week the total goes down to 18

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http://luckyhazard.thecomicstrip.org/

two page update! silo's getting mad!

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Been working on my April/May comic (combined both into one full length (24 page) story instead of two short ones), figured I'd post the first five pages and see what /co/ thinks.

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Decided to go back to digital inking, mostly to play with screen tones in Mangastudio. Never used 'em before.

>>82349063
Well, first off, you don't have to do one page a week. That's something you do if you have a bit of a perfectionist streak and want every page to be its absolute best.

Nobody's saying you have to make every page some great work of art if it lets you tell the story better as a result.

But on the other hand, it's not like you'll ever be able to make pages faster than people can read them. I'm updating weekly myself at the moment, and while I'd like to eventually get up to two or three pages a week, for now I'm fine with this pace because it lets me make every page a piece of art that I won't worry about having thousands of people look at over the years. My comic definitely is designed for the archive binge read, rather than the "check it once a week to see what's happened".

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And that's all I've got done so far. Everything's written and most everything is drawn, just need to finish up and ink everything. Plan to put out the rest as I finish; should be about 3/week.

>>82349936
Looks neat overall. You're the same guy who posted the one with a gnome and human fighting a mimic a few months back, right?

>>82350082
>dungeon delver
Honestly, I feel like once you're using the term "dungeon", you might as well go all the way and call it dungeon crawling.

Like, any universe where DnD adventurer is a viable profession, I'd expect it to be a little RPG-ish.

Also, doesn't this town have a sewer maintenance service? You'd think she would go to those guys first if she wanted to go into the sewers.

>>82350271
"Dungeon delver" is alliterative though. Alliteration is awesome.

>>82350634
Isn't pink positive on a birth control test, not blue?

>>82350711
It varies

>>82350794
I think if you made it a plus sign, regardless of color, it wouldn't cause any confusion.

>>82350634
>book in panel 5
Fuck sake.

>>82350898
Good idea, will do. Thanks.

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Here's the fix...

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And here's the comic it's a follow-up to...

>>82349966
You're art is really nice, but I think I liked your trad stuff a little more.
Srry.

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WIP of the next page!

>>82347921
You're kissing ass.

>>82350271
Yup, that's me.
I actually thought about going full on "RPG' with it, with the comic (if not the characters) aware of levels and classes and such, but decided not to go quite that far. "Adventurer" is definitely a viable career choice, tho.
>sewer maintenance service
….yeah, that would've made things easier. Whoops.
>>82351045
Thanks! I feel like traditional and digital both have pros and cons for me, but overall, I think I'm a bit better digitally. Certainly a lot cleaner.

>>82352803
You can easily throw in a quick reference to a sewer maintenance service, something like "they went down to investigate but none returned." It's not too late to apply that plot spackle!

>>82352665
No, I just like it.

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What do you think of Tapastic? Is it a good place to put a webcomic?

>>82352945
I hate it.

I hate it so much.

Every single aspect of the Tapastic interface is annoying to me. If a comic is exclusively on Tapastic I personally will not read it. Any other hosting site or style of reading a comic is superior. That scrolling shit is fucking terrible, I hate it so much. I'm fucking triggered just thinking about it. I'm serious. It's the worst.

>>82352945

it is okay.

>>82353064

They just care to be Mobile friendly, I guess

>>82353134
You can do that on your own site so easily, though. Making a website responsive is easier than ever now. There are multiple gimmicks for Wordpress that will do it.

>>82352945

I have a comic on Tapas and in a regular site. I get tons of pageviews in Tapas. Their community is huge, I guess ppl is not so atracted to visit lonely websites anymore.

>>82353292
My experience was the exact opposite. My regular website did and continues to do quite well while my Tapastic site was so anemic I just shut it down after a few months.

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Making some very significant progress on the building I'll be using in the intro sequence of those animations I'm working on. It's still not even close to being finished but at least it's shaping up more now. I'm kind of nervous about how I'm going to do lighting and shadows with this many complex shapes though.

>>82352945
It's ok. I don't mind the scrolling. And it's nice that the page isn't really endless, it cuts off after the page or chapter, has the comment section and then the new page begins. Just an endless page with no breaks would probably feel too overwhelming, but the way they've set it up works fine for me.

>>82345898
ah well those aren't really on the occult side.. but i'm still in the process of your research youll think of something

>>82346147
i never can tell. they say theyre aware of it but theyre always surprised by it

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>>82351160
Dewd.

Seriously.

>>82353579
Anything ''not real'' is occult enough for me.

WHO /qst/ HERE

>>82353657
Maybe later.
When I'm dead.

>>82353680
Me, in a way.

>>82353657
Fuck off.

>>82347668
awwwwww!!! this fucking comic, so comfy

>>82348189
>buckle up
I HAVE SIX SEATBELTS ON and i can't find the buckly parts

>>82348218
>>82348207
>planet of mighty giants where wind can pick up mountains
okay i'm listening

>>82349222
somehow i was expecting the resolution to be "256 x 240"

>>82353978
That's 13 people amigo

>>82349365
last time I counted it was well over 200 with an equal number of comics that stopped updating so i stopped checking them but still keep the links around, or haven't binged yet

>>82351014
i can't not laugh

>>82351160
panel 6 got a nice chuckle outta me
shouldn't it be "i've been here SINCE day one" ?
pretty good punchline. i feel like there's a pun one could make about water or bridges or something to point out how fucked up the situation is, but it works.

>>82353338
uhh is that you with the cyborgy aliens n' such?

>>82353670
right, i mean, when it comes to mythological critters I'm usually thinking "Real, it turns out" so that's what i had in mind with the ideas for things i wanted to see more.

>>82354101
Dewd won't listen. What's the point, other than to be intentionally anatagonistic with no end goal in sight?

>>82354272
Well, SD isn't really the most litterate, and I was thinking "Less words=cool right?"

Also it still gets the point across pretty well.

>>82354390
So you're telling me to fuck off instead of him?

The fuck?

>>82354480
I just said
>Dewd won't listen
So there's no point in telling him to fuck off.

I guess there's no point in telling you to fuck off either, huh? You dense motherfucker.

>>82354501
dewd please get your mom out of these threads

>>82354615
I wonder if they know of the porn he drew of his characters?

>>82354461
it does a fine job yeah. actually this seems like a joke that audio would help.. i know that applies to a lot of my jokes.

>>82354656
Oh yeah, I often think up of jokes that would only work with animation.

Good thing I also do animation.

>>82354501
So let me get this straight.

I'm the asshole because he's the asshole? 0

>>82354859
No, you're the asshole because you're an asshole. You're literally trying to bully Dewd out of these threads.

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>>82354876
>"take an art hiatus"
>bully

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>>82339561
This anon right here. Okay, How do I pace the story well?

>Page 8: The green girl/boy look around in the room and find some clothes for the mummy.
>Page 9: Mummy wears the clothes and quickly discover that it is magic.
>Page 10: The black puppet randomly warns him to take it off or he will face doom!

Does that make sense?

>>82354931
>do what we say
doesn't matter if 'what you say' is something like.. breathe oxygen. it's still not cool
and if your basis is 'because so many of us say so' that's called fascism

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Speaking of animation

>>82354876
>>82354988
He's telling him to fix his art because it's shit.
Everyone here knows "bullying" dewd away is impossible.

If we really were sick of dewd filtering him would fix it in seconds, telling him to take an art hiatus or any suggestion is constructive because he isn't forced to do anything. You're some kind of fucking low test fag or a female if you cannot grasp that.

>>82355033
what the actual fuck

>>82355250
Sarah is telling him to go away.

And he does.

>>82355093
So therefore Scribblehatch has no right to complain when we're hard on him about his comic's story.

>>82355479
no one has any right to complain. you post your shit here, people are going to say what they want. why is this even a discussion? it's like /hywc/ is a tumblr oasis here

>>82354937
That generally seems fine. You should map it out by panel

>>82355511
fuck you, i have feelings man

>>82355479
>Scribble complaining when you talk about the story
Alright I'll bite. When has this happened? This specifically.

>>82355738
>>82355479
samefag, perhaps even the fag himself.

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>>82355774

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>>82355916
Well hey jackass, you have time to do that you have time to answer my question.

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>>82356085
Answer this question first.

>>82356147
>ANSWER MY SHITTY QUESTION FIRST
Hohohoho.

So there really is nothing behind your statement. You fraud.

>>82356240
What is shitty about that question?

As for >>82355738 take a look at the reply chain that led to https://desustorage.org/co/thread/79720337/#79722165 and then fuck off. Senpai will surely notice you if you keep defending and enabling his shitty, stubborn behavior.

>>82356313
Here's your last (You)

>>82356365
LOL you're so anal devastated

kill everyone in this thread. then revive them and killthem again.

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>>82356534
>I'm too cool for the room!
>I'm clearly the only adult here.

>>82337665
Pretty much this

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>>82356639
>tfw the only fanart you get is sfw

>>82356892
>implying you get any at all

>>82356892
>>82356926
>>implying they didn't beg for free art and call it "fanart."

>>82356926
I get some anon, I get some!!

I GET A LOT

>>82357036
no need to lie. a lot of us here are fan art virgins too.

>>82356926
Hey now, I've only had to beg for most of my fanart.

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>>82356926
That reminds me that I got my first fanart since I started actually making my series yesterday (I've gotten a bit from before I started from close friends who I told about my characters). Super cute.

It was drawn by my sister's friend but hey, I didn't have to ask for it.

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tfw no views

>>82357776
Shut up you're not adding anything.

>>82356892
it's one of those unfortunate situations where you just cant ask for it outright because that's not cool,
but i would totally draw you nsfw fanart if i knew you wanted it
but i wouldnt unless i knew that
and it'd probably kill the motivation i have now if you asked

>>82357959
I enjoy posts like those. I get a bit of schadenfreude knowing there are literally comics with 0 real views out there. At least I'm not them.

>>82357776
Come back when one of your original readers serves time and you have to print and mail him the new strips.

>>82358032
You're slacking because of it.

>>82358151
look, i fully expect my fans to go to priz, but the kind of priz where you have internet

>>82353680
Yeah its fun

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>>82356959

Any art of your characters that you didn't make is fan art

it doesn't matter how you got it at the end of the day all that matters is you got a shit ton of fan art from artists from all over the world like me

sure, some of the fan art i got for demon juice or fates was by way of an art trade, but its still fan art, i draw fan art of there character and they draw fan art of my character

BUT a lot of the fan art ive gotten was just random fans of my webcomics and character just randomly making fan art of my characters

ive got over a hundred pieces of fan art from people all over the world: http://pastebin.com/ATmMvTRg

do you?

*cant post a direct link to blogspot which is my main websites for my projects because 4chan thinks its spam or something

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>>82358032
Even worse are the ones with like 1 or 2 views, because you know it's just the author reading their own comic.

>>82358384
well it's important to read your own comic, see how it displays

>>82358151
why would you do all that for him

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>>82358384

>>82358384
>Literally started yesterday
>haven't updated in a year

Well yeah they'd be low.

>>82358456
I would. What a kind gesture.

>>82358032
>>82358384
how does this happen? even just putting it on taptastic or something would guarantee a few views a day right?

>>82358556
If you'd look at them most of them just started on PW so they haven't collected proper stats. Or they don't post anymore so no one has reason to go.

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>>82358602
Certain comics on PW haven't updated in over 4 months but look at the views they're still doing.

The popular comics always maintain a steady number of views no matter what.

>>82358384
Ha ha, I'm on there at the bottom, with Square Eyed Stories.

- I only recently re-added a Project Wonderful Ad-box again after not having one on the site for a while.
- Square Eyed Stories is an archive site, and not currently updating regularly. SES is a group anthology and where I started off in small press comics. Each issue comes out in print first, then strips go on the website when the issues go out of print. I don't publicise it very much at the moment as all the OOP issues are online, and issues 22-25 are still available.
- Most of the hits on SES seem to come from SEO spam crawlers. I only check in on the WordPress dsahboard every so often to clear out spam comments.

>>82358977
Regular forum where 10 years of fans still actively post.

Also PW is quite broken when it comes to keeping track of actual numbers. It says I get twice the hits that my Host says I do.

What would be some good SFX for a person snapping into a fighting stance?

>>82359243
It has a forum? I've been reading Real Life (checking the site 5 days a week, every week) for almost 14 years and I never knew that.

>>82359266
i dont think that makes a noise

>>82359266
Only one I can think of is "shff" or something similar to indicate shuffling of feet.

>>82359270
You're an idiot then because I just looked and it's in the top bar.

>>82359366
Maybe I don't care about anything besides the comic so I've never looked for a forums link.

>>82359389
>14 years and never noticed something clearly above the comic.

Yeah man we get it. You're too cool to read words without pictures.

>>82359623
oh come now we've all missed shit like that

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>>82348189
Slapped some color on between pages. Because procrastination.

Unrelated, but what's everyone do to make their readers feel appreciated? Like, what extra little mile do you go to make em feel heard?

>>82359786
I used to think about that.. but it's hard to make them feel heard when i don't hear any

>>82359786

Doing the work.

>>82359266
Facture

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http://bug-quest.tumblr.com/post/143647203065/but-i-like-murder
she makes a solid argument

hey can we get some fanart circlejerking going on?
those are always fun

>>82360242
A solid argument for why I should become an insectophile?

>>82360282
I'm away from all my stuff, but in a few days I might try something. Thinking of taking requests for any two hyw characters that aren't the requester's and aren't mine.

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>>82360282
if i wasnt rushing my ass off to finish this comic before work, i'd be happy to do another one of these. we'll see about tomorrow maybe. but really i could do a week of back to back comics (not that i would) and still not really be caught up

>>82360507
Ha! Fuckin love it. I totally owe you one.

>>82360649
thought that might be worth reposting.
maybe we should all repost a little. it's been a long time since the threads were really buzzing with original material

>>82360711
>reposting
>original material

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Working on the bottom panel but i'm struggling with dynamic shrub/vegetation destruction. Any good sources or references I could use?