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Homestuck 2: The Search for More Money

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Can Joey save Homestuck?
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>>82064157
Joey was the reason homestuck went to shit. If it weren't for the game homestuck would have ended two years ago, before Hussie forgot over half of the plot threads and how to write the characters.
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>>82064157
>assuming everyone pissed with the ending won't skip over hiveswap or pirate it
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Joéy is just a shittier Jade.
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is there an archive of all of Tangs drawings anywhere?
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>>82064218
Hi I'm Matt Korba, Co-Founder of the Odd Gentlemen. Joey is actually Spade Slicks reincarnation. Before we took Hussie's 2.2 million dollars and spent it on cocaine we coded up this great sequence when you as Joey use a tommy gun to kill Vriska in all timelines it's pretty great lmao
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joey's toes
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?
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>Hiveswap is set in 1994
>Pre-Sgrub Alternia

What's the fucking point?
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>>82064487
Does setting really matter in a series with timetravel?
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>>82064487
Telling a story or milking a francise

What was the point of The Hobbit? or the snes game Lufia II or the star wars prequels
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>>82064371
tang has drawn far too much over the years
no one can archive all that
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Will we get a new Megalovania?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2jVbSI9H4o
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>>82064656
say have you ever drawn joey? she would look cute in your style
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>>82064656
megane has im pretty sure, but i don't think he's uploaded his collection
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>>82064671
no because this comic is dead and radiation has moved on to bigger and better things lmao
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Who's the number one in memes?

Her emperor daddy?
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>>82064556
>What was the point of The Hobbit
>or the star wars prequels

Both of those came first you quad nigger
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>>82064676
i swear this is the third time you've asked this question
like in the exact same words over the past 2 years
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>>82064727
but this is my first time asking this, wow

she really is perfect in your style
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>>82064696
So she's confirmed to be murdered right?

also this probably means the troll world isn't timeskip because why would they have an empress again
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>>82064692
oh huh
i can ask him to if you want
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>>82064814
please do
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>>82064487
if its not related directly to hs more ppl will buy it
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>>82064961
shouldn't have had fucking trolls in

this was dead on arrival the instant they announced the title. doesn't help that all the trolls look like utter shit too, not a single good design from the bunch.
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>>82064218
She's fem-John. Which I guess pretty much IS Jade
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>>82064696
Meulin
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>>82064218
You can't get shittier than Jade.
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>>82064724
>star wars prequels came first
hello underaged.
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Why couldn't Jane and Terezi be a thing in the end? For a pair the spares, it has potential.
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>>82064742
flattery will get you everywhere anon
here, a fresh joey
that other one was years old
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>>82065181
Because that's dumb, and a vague connection between a secondary character trait and an extremely minor character trait is a poor grounding for even a crack ship.

Did they ever even talk?
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>>82065448
yo angel did you respond to my commission email?
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>>82065574
which one are you? davekat or 4 girls commission?
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>>82065616
sprite guy

I sent it paradoxjelli@hotmail if that's the right one
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>>82065663
thats the right email but i dont think i have anything from you
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>>82065733
just resent
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>>82065663
needs a .com, idiot
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Post YFW Hussie makes Joey a lesbian
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>>82065616
>4 girls
Good.
>davekat
God damn it. I hope they're at least genderbent.
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>>82065864
he'd have to make joey's game first
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>>82065864
Im not worried about Joey, but her brother and the deer troll are definitely going to touch dicks.
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>>82065852
there it is
one sec

>>82065902
>God damn it. I hope they're at least genderbent.
no way
its $50 worth of karkat topping dave sketches plus fluff doodles
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>>82065970
>Karkat topping Dave

at LEAST it's semi canon
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>>82065987
Is it really? They both strike me as bottom bitches. Although Dave probably craves cock due to being in the closet so I guess it makes sense.
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>we finally get an epilogue
>it's just shipping shit
>doesn't explain fuck-all
>no pesterlogs or dialogue
>still no Karezi closure with the pre-retcon selves or we see (Vriska) and (Terezi) being happy lesbians and (Karkat) doesn't exist, the guy who was the reason for the fucking retcon
>Jasprose and Davepeta are forgotten
>Jack Noir gets fucking away with everything
>"btw davekat confirmed lol" / "btw davekat deconfirmed lol" / "btw poly confirmed lol", while not showing that karkat is leading some bullshit, having been reduced to polycuck or shipping bait
>epilogue ends with Terezi being happy that someone is coming back
>you waited one year until you turn into a shitposting homophobe or fanatic homestuck hater and watch every thread filled with smug davekat posters or smug anti-davekat posters shitposting for eternity
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>>82066159
>Jasprose and Davepeta are forgotten
>implying that would be bad
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>>82066159
honestly if he wastes a single word on the shitty 2x sprites I'll be pissed
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>>82066159
>Jasprose and Davepeta are forgotten
>bad thing

???
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What if davekat is confirmed but Jade goes for freak sprite bargin bin Davepeta instead?
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>>82066359
it would probably work out better for her dog dick
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>>82066359
Davepeta is not even a Bargain Bin Dave
It's a "Products are so defective we are giving them away for free please make us a favor and free us you can even pick more than one" Bin Dave
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you have TEN SECONDS to name Feferi's chat handle
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>>82064980
>shouldn't have had fucking trolls in

but it does

there's a whole fucking planet full of trolls
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>>82066359
/co/ would still throw a fit because they can't self insert into davepeta as easily so their jade fap fantasies are ruined.
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>>82064760
what if it is the new universe troll world?
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>>82066536
cuttlefishculler
ez
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>>82066536
cuttlefishCumdumptser
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>>82066536
cuttlefishculler
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>>82064760
>Inb4 Joey and the troll friends she made start their own session
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>>82066536
no.
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>>82066621
>hiveswap tells us that they are preventing a doomsday weapon
>it's fucking sburb
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>>82066597
>>82066609
you looked it up
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he should've gone with one of the handles that has nothing to do with the character like kanaya's
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>>82066536
Glub Glub Slutface
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>>82066536
cuttlefishCuller

I didn't even know it but it took less than ten seconds to look it up
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>>82064692
>>82064814
>>82064878
I'm sure I didn't save that mu-

>1113 file and 26 order

Oh for the love of God. Looks like I saved a mixture of SFW and NSFW. I assume some are dupes, and some are just the already included individual pictures stitched together. Hold on, I have to pack and upload them.
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So is Serendipity Gospels ever gonna be finished? Does the author even remember?
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>>82066651
nope, why would I look up scuffletishfuller
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If you cant remember Dad's handle you don't know shit about homestuck
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>>82066695
grimAuxiltrix is EZ MODE
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What was Johns original handle?
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>>82066932
ghostyTrickster
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>>82064183
>there are people in this thread who donated to the kickstarter
>the murderers of homestuck are in this thread RIGHT NOW
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>>82064724
>The star wars prequels came out first
You need to be 18 to be on this board.
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>>82066859
They ran out of money to pay 25$helby for the art.
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>>82064487
to actively destroy the fanon of Alternia, the best thing to come out of the Homestuck fandom
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>>82067021
I hope it's not Alternia.

>limebloods are still alive
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>>82066906
fedoraEnthusiast
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>>82066906
>>82067056
Wait fuck I meant Pipefan413
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So of all the characters who make it into the new universe at the end of the story (lets include Aradia/Sollux/Vriska for fun), who is the most likely one to go rogue and turn on the rest?

HARD MODE: no Vriska
NIGHTMARE MODE: no Karkat
JOHN MUST DIE MODE: no John "Put a mag in a fag" Egbert
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>>82067038
in all seriousness it is almost surely Beforus in Universe A=C. and the game in general is the Epilogue.
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>>82067181
The game isn't the Epilogue but it IS after the story, at least for the Troll parts.
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So did the new King's Quest steal the funds or not?
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>>82067178
Rose
Kanaya and other MIGHT want to make sure their races survive by ectobiology but if they do, Rose will go full on nazi and cull all male children if they're not fit for physical labor
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>epilogue appears
>due to 'winning' two sessions of sburb, the remining trolls are allowed free god-tiers only so andrew can make ships canon
how pissed would you be?
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>>82067178
Rose, Aradia or Sollux given how all three of them are a bit emotionally unstable; something would have to set them off of course, but they'd be the ones most likely to flip out.
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>>82066159
>into a shitposting homophobe
>talking shit about John posters
>>>/out/ I bet you funded the game.
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>>82067273
Depends, does that include the dead original trolls or just the current surviving ones?
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>>82067075
>I meant
yeah right, dude. I bet you looked it up on the wiki.
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>>82067316
just the surviving ones that were there for the birth of the universe
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>>82066986
You have nobody to blame but yourself.
Shouldn't have get invested into Homestuck in the first place.
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>>82067273
Terezi is the only one who is fucked because Kanaya is almost immortal and Karkat could possibly live stupid long
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I feel sorry for Karkat fans wanting their character to have a good arc.

>>82067178
Rose when Kanaya dies. Or Jade when she gets cucked.
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Alright, all I have of Tang.

http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/dNK7Shid/file.html


Password is TANGANRONPA

>>82066159
>still no Karezi closure with the pre-retcon selves or we see (Vriska) and (Terezi) being happy lesbians and (Karkat) doesn't exist, the guy who was the reason for the fucking retcon

It hurts a little.
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>>82067435
>Karkat
>reason for the retcon

LOL
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>>82067178
>who make it into the new universe
>Vriska
Kek nice head canon
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>>82067442
I'd argue he might have played a bigger part in Terezi's motivation for it.
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>>82067442
RTFC
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>>82067469
>>82067476
>who is Vriska
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>>82067408
>I feel sorry for Karkat fans wanting their character to have a good arc.
Why?
Literally nobody had a good arc
They just had long arcs that focused on some of them
I think the greatest lesson that Hussie has taught us is that quantity =/= quality, no matter how hard you try to pretend it is
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so if prospit has future dreams
what does derse have?
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>>82064183
no that was TOG
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>>82067503
stabs
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>>82067178
Jade when her schizophrenia acts up.
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>>82067503
diplomatic immunity
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>>82067503
Fucking nothing.
If sburb were an actual thing, derse dreamers would hate all the guys that lucked out with prospit.
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>the epilogue is just LE gloating about how he mastered the art of anime smut and killed everyone else without any effort
>IT IS OBVIOuS. THAT YOu WERE. ABSOLUTELY ENTRAPTuRED. BY MY "ACT 7".
>Hussie's avatar then comes in riding a robo pony, dragging a hog-tied Vriska on the ground behind them
>he goes on a massive tirade about how much he hates the fanbase and blames us for everything
>"You want your garbage ship to be resolved? You want to know what blood does? You want to know where fedoraFreak is? Well, I have a question too: WHO THE FUCK CARES?"
>the final panel is just LE being the ordained minister at Hussie and Vriska's wedding, with the quote "Mistakes into miracles" written in cursive in the corner
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>>82067503
Horrorterror interviews.
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>>82067547
Too buys getting bred 24/7
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>>82067178
sexually frustrated and lonely Jane.
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>>82064371
Sadly the same question for Mookie000, I went to their tumblr and most of it was gone. Not even really for the popular ones like Ballgown Dreamers or Militarystuck, more of schoolstuck and the cute casual outfits they drew. I miss those days...
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>>82065039
no Fem-John is Jane
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>>82067330
In that instance I wouldn't like it, only point I could see in something like that would be a happy ending for all the characters. Only giving it to the remaining ones seems a bit redundant, and I can't see Hussie giving much of a shit about a happy ending for the dead trolls anyway.
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>>82067494
It feels farfetched that at the end of Game Over she immediately went with the retcon thinking "1F ONLY VR1SKA H4D B33N TH3R3" . Because at that point, she didn't know yet how that would impact anything outside of the binary choice she originally had.

She saw/heard Karkat dying because of her, and then the scene with her an John has John conveniently bring up his death, with her reaction telling to "not say it like that", making it sound like it was written to imply it is a partial motivation. Which fits in with Hussies beating around the bush way of not committing to most things: It's vague enough to say that Karkat's death is a major motivation, but also that he in this case just reminds her of all her dead friends.

It felt more like Vriska living being a good thing was because she discerned it via her powers. Not because she decided it would have been a good idea from the beginning. And she only used her power after telling John to "F1X 1T".
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>>82067572
I hated you until the last line.
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>>82067503
A chance to hang out with the Midnight Crew.
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>>82064696
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>>82067615
Poor Jane. Act 6 starts with the reader thinking she is the main character, and then she more or less turns into a tangentially side character.
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>>82067615
Jane "If I cant have a happy ending then no one can" Crocker
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Was Hussie always a hack writer, or did he just slowly become one over the course of writing homestuck?
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>>82067644
>karezifags still grasping for straws when their ship is dead as a doornail
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>>82067699
Read Problem Sleuth
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>>82066536
cunnilingusCocksucker
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so which characters will have the hottest kids
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>>82067178
Aradia and Sollux have been following LE this whole time.

Now that the Caliborn has stopped cuttlefish culling Rose will be taken over by the Squiddles again.

Kanaya vampire mode was planned by Scratch, so she'll probably kill everyone when she runs out of dead trolls blood.
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>>82067699
He realized that being a hack was much more easier and profitable when he introduced the cancer of trolls and shipping into the story.
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>>82067178
Wouldn't Jane hate the gays more than John? She literally got cockblocked by a turbo gay
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>>82067688
it was pretty genius that the main character was hidden due to her aspect though
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>>82067724
Jade and Dave obviously
Harley hots smoothed out by Striderness
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>>82067716
It's one thing to be dead with actual closure, but being dead by just not being addressed anymore despite years of development is another. On top of being just plain bad writing.

I don't ask for a romantic end, just closure.
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>>82067743
>cancer of Trolls
>Karkat is the cancer troll
>Karkat was the beginning of endless bullshit

DEEPEST
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>>82067803
Yeah, her girth hid Caliborn really well.
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>>82067808
It actually worked like a real relationship would though, it petered out over time with no huge dramatic moments.
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>>82064696
She must be the founder of Troll Reddit.
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>>82067804
>Harley hots
>implying
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>>82065864
To be quite honest, I already scribbled Joey with Trizza.
>>82066159
Ok but as someone who used to be huge on Karezi, was Karkat really the reason for the retcon or was it more of everyone is dead and Terezi wants to feel in control of her life again.
>>82067435
Man this is gonna feel nostalgic. I haven't had the courage to say it to her but I'm really proud of Tang. I know they're going through some hardships but its been kinda amazing to watch this 12 year old grow up and go off to college.
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>>82067435
nice, thanks
>>82067841
>It actually worked like a real relationship would
>retroactively erasing three years of interaction
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>>82067866
WE WUZ FIRST GUARDIANS
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karezi dying was iogd's fault. she would always whine about how much she hated it.
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Man why the fuck haven't what pumpkin willingly posted ANYTHING? The only reason we didn't have to wait several more months was cuz that dude had to go internet sleuth around
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>>82067866
>posting noncanon art
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>>82067937
iogd?
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>>82067949
>8 days since homestuck has ended
>Radio silence from everyone at mspa/whatpumpkin
I just want a single word at this point.
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>>82067949
They have taken the Valve road in believing that posting no information is better than posting anything even remotely controversial. It's complete distrust of the consumer.
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>>82067949
>site still has 3d hiveswap
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>>82067957
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>>82067979
I think the huge amount of hate kind of paralyzed everyone into posting anything until a concrete epilogue date has been decided on.
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>>82067937
I don't take anything she says for full, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's what actually happened. I guess it was just too vanilla for her?

>>82067841
>petered out
They obviously still cared about each other, and it doesn't need to be romantic to be meaningful. In fact, I prefer it that way. But then it was just erased and not brought up again. Post retcon, they seemed distant.

>>82067873
It's vague whether he was the reason. As I said: Hussie writes in a way that gives hope to just about every one of the more plausible ships but then might not commit to it.
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>>82068022
can you not read the picture
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>>82068069
No matter what dog Jade is Jade is ugly in that
Jade is canonically so hot she turns gays straight
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>>82068022
Bec is an omnipoterrier rtfc
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>>82068055
they didn't really have a chance to interact post retcon so why assume they feel differently?
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>>82067873
>Terezi wants to feel in control of her life again.
I imagine that was the primary reasoning behind her instructions to John as a whole, she was pretty fucking useless before Game Over happened and after the fighting was over she likely realised that and wished she'd done more. Then John pops up with his retcon powers and she has her chance. It's one of the more interesting concepts explored in Homestuck, would you go back and fix your past mistakes if it meant you will no longer exist?

Given she cared for Karkat a lot, I imagine his well being likely played into her decision making on instructing John's actions in the past. It would have been nice too have seen that explicitly shown, but most of her intent was likely focused on herself not ending up as melancholic and useless as before. I mean, that was the weird part about Terezi as a character. We're shown how she's supposedly very capable and knows how to guide people to do what she wants, yet she doesn't really make the most of said ability. She still doesn't post-retcon if we're being honest, Vriska just does it all for some stupid fucking reason.
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Was Tavris or Johnvris the most toxic M/F relationship next to Gamrezi?
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>>82068138
And then she becomes Vriska's yes man.

Holy shit.
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>>82068140
Tavris, being with someone who willingly crippled you is fucked, no two ways about it.
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>>82068138
>>82068167
People give Vriska way too much fucking credit, all she did was tell people where to go and get rid of GCAT.
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It's been over a week since the ending, how are you coping /co/?
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>>82068189
You know what would be hilarious? Terezi did all the hard work while Vriska was just a lucky charm for her.
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>>82068198
it doesnt feel real
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>>82068198
pretty good, waiting for news on the epilogue and writing fics
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>>82068167
Don't remind me, reading Vriska dictating her plan and everyone just nodding along was the all time low point in the comic for me.

>>82068189
She dictates the entirety of the plan which goes off near-flawlessly gets Dave and Dirk to sort their shit out, was the one who obtained all the info on how things are going to go down and was the element of change in the retcon that sorted out the issues in the 3 year meteor trip. If that isn't over the top influence then I don't know what is.
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>>82068217
I thought that was implied, considering she didn't help Rose out of the bottom of her heart or some ridiculous hit like that.

The artist who did Vriskagram really deserves shit for creating misconceptions about the retcon.
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>>82068198
What the fuck was Homestuck
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>>82068272
Do you think vriska becoming an actual Mary sue was just hussie so tired he did took whatever chance he could to speed it up? "No see it's a meta joke"
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>the final boss isn't a humanoid naked muscled guy with the homestuck logo as his head
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>>82068198
I feel nothing but regret.
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>>82068272
The meteor changes were a butterfly effect, and all she did was teleport Dirk which anyone there could've done. As for the combat plan she is canonically one of the best at that so it's not like it's out of the blue.

The only real asspull was how she knew about Slick and shit like that.
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>>82068137
They had plenty of chance to interact before the final battle, but they didn't. Hussie could have made something that showed they are still on their teasingly friendly terms, but he didn't. So why assume they are not distant now? There was a retcon that shifted the relations between characters on the meteor big time. The only thing in their relationship present at that point was absence.

Well, actually there is one remark by Terezi that she has become very good at discerning when Karkat is ranting. But that's all I think? Not much to go by.

>>82068189
It's not just people, but the comic as well. It would have been better if LE killed Vriska and (Vriska) got to open the chest in a last ditch effort in my opinion.

Why bring back a version of a character that hasn't learned anything, despite her claims? Like how was post retcon Vriska different from pre retcon? It looked to me like she only stopped threatening people into doing what she wants, instead just being generally invasive, obnoxious and a sycophant to get her way.

And what was the point of Davepeta going on about alt selves and ghosts being important? That didn't play a role at all. It would have made sense if they all combined each alternate self into one, but that didn't happen.
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>>82068198
I feel nothing
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>>82068318
Well Slick was Hussie's best bro, so maybe he told her about how cool he was saving him from Snowmans deathsplosion while out in the bubbles
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>>82068347
>Why bring back a version of a character that hasn't learned anything, despite her claims?

Necessary evil. She got to return to the story and help beat the bad guy like she wanted to but will never be a better
, happy person.
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>>82068347
Did Karkat learn anything at all?

He still shits on his alt versions as doomed losers.
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>>82068417
He learned to accept that he isn't and never will be a badass hero for one.
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>>82068417
He really needed to put into place by (Karkat). But no matter which of the two, they were never as awful as Vriska.

>>82068410
>but will never be a better, happy person

I can live with that. Too bad it's probably not gonna be shown.

By the way, is this the epilogpause? Or the deadpause? Deadtime?
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>>82068299
I just don't know anon, it was just so odd at the time I was expecting someone to give some additional input, or at least for some part of her plan to go awry. But it didn't, fuck knows if that was an intended commentary on mary suedom or not, it just sucked to read.

>>82068318
Perhaps the issue is just in how it was presented, in Vriskagram we just see a lot of scenes focused on her influence on things. I can understand why, she wasn't there the first time around so let's show how things change with her on board. However, it shows Vriska in all these situations as being the element of change, even with things like Rose drinking, which did get sorted out eventually on its own, did we really need to see Vriska being the one to confront Rose on it?

Better year, given Terezi was the one dictating the retcon in an attempt to make things right both with the session and herself, perhaps she should have been shown actually guiding things? She is a Seer so it stands to reason her changes should have made her more capable in leading her group as she isn't bogged down in relationship troubles.

As for thecombat plan, whilst I do agree she should have been the lead contributor, she is from what I recall the only contributor. Having a plan of action dictated like that with no one offering any input is just so dry, doubly so when it all just comes true. Why not have her and Terezi working on it together? Vriska offering the more aggressive options and Terezi tempering it so it doesn't go over the top, that be fitting of their renewed Scourge Sister thing.
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>>82068198
this song pretty accurately describes my thoughts on the ending

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btHd1zrjkqY&ebc=ANyPxKpG6MFTuoZ1K4vWFYMFbWVpFuhBGWmkV2cEqTuc33skv0gSSR5wd-2u0qWwYQ9j_ZsoxxhhrSbu-yRlU1usMkCGT4hw3Q
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>>82067572

I lovve it.
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>>82068530
>that be fitting of their renewed Scourge Sister thing.

I still think that was mostly one sided on Terezi's part, and that Vriska does not really "get" relationships. Or rather, she knows the signs and requirements of one, but not how to live them properly so that both parties are happy. I can't be the only one that thought it felt like she took Terezi for granted while still manipulating her in a way benefiting not the group, but her desire for heroism.
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>>82067572
Absolutely flawless
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I hope Hussie confirms the "you need to beat the Felt before you beat English" thing because it would make Karkat's stupid little victory retroactively very important
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>>82068627
how would that even work though, LE is in the dreambubbles and those don't follow normal chronology
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>>82068627
English is the cue stick in the billiards analogy, please stop pretending he's the 8 ball
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>>82068616
>but her desire for heroism

That's exactly what it is. She doesn't give a shit about anyone on the pad save for maybe Terezi. She shoots Dirk over so they can shut up and fight. Rose gives her no credit for helping her drinking problem. Nobody really likes her, save for John being John.

She is LITERALLY a necessary evil whose goals just so happen to mesh with those of the protagonists.
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>>82068198
by not giving a shit
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>>82068417
He seemed a bit reigned in, at least in the presence of Dave. His overreaction to trivial things was one of his biggsest issues, so that's something positive with his post-retcon self. However, he did regress in that he seemed much less capable, he gave up on leadership and just seemed to accept he was worthless and wanted to have some influence on events happening, hence his contentment to be on the front line.

Everyone will view the changes differently, but personally I much prefer a somewhat inept character trying to have a meaningful influence by trying exceedingly hard than an inept character accepting they're inept and just looking to have some form of influence no matter the risks.
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>>82068658
he isn't the 8ball but that's what it was supposed to symbolize (the end of the game)
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>>82068672
didn't john say he hates vriska practically hours before the frog platform
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>>82068577
>things fall apart so easily
>dreams dead in the water and you oughta let them pass
>i wanted something better than this
>but it seems thats all im gonna get
>best to forget
prophetic
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>>82068577
>I wanted something better than this
>It's better to forget

On point.
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>>82068707
Yeah, and he's tricked into assuming she's a better person because she's being so helpful.

She then immediately goes and damns Tavrosprite forever to show you, the reader, that she isn't.
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>>82068577
Jade had a hard life
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>>82068726
>>82068722
>I wanted so much more
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>>82068198
Pretty good. I was already pretty detached from HS' mid-Act 6, so I was mentally prepared for Hussie to be a disappointment.
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>>82067572
This is the only acceptable meta ending
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So, I figure it can be concluded that, now and forever:

Vris is piss.
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>>82068804
no u
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>>82068616
I think if there's one character Vriska does care for, it's Terezi. However, as you said Vriska just doesn't seem to understand what a relationship should be like, that it's a two way thing. It makes sense she has a fucked understanding of interpersonal relations given most of her life was dictated by murdering people to feed what should be her parenting figure. What's odd is Terezi going along with it, again she's supposed to be smart, surely she'd recognise how bad Vriska is for her on that level and try to seek deeper companionship from elsewhere.

Problem is, everyone on the meteor is pretty terrible company, they all have issues with genuine emotions with Terezi arguably being the worst of the lot.

>>82068672
It just wished they'd shown that disdain more clearly. I think it's understandable that she'd have a lot of influence on events, but she seems held in high regard given she takes over leadership from Karkat with nary a whimper of challenge.
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>>82068198
i expected so much
i never gave up hope in hussie

and my hopes were dashed
as i think about the ending and how it ties into homestuck as a whole, and match it with the themes and ideals of homestuck, it feels better

but it doesnt change the fact that it was dissapointing
i'm sad it wasn't what i imagine it could have been

but i still love homestuck
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>>82067572
>You want to know what blood does
Yesterday someone posted a screenshot of Rachel saying it was the aspect of leadership and vitality
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>>82068140
johnvris was the least toxic vriska ship
tavris is so fucked up
vriska/terezi is extremely fucked up
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>>82068900
these are my feelings as well, and it disappoints me that so many people now just hate all of it now when the ending is such a small part of the whole thing

I also really liked collide
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>>82068927
vrisks/terezi isnt fucked up under their weird alien values though
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>>82068998
manipulation and exploitation of insecurities isn't healthy no matter what fucked up culture you're in
they weren't pitch for each other

>>82068969
exactly
i feel like so many people gave up hope a long time ago, and they've been fermenting their hatred for a long time

collide was kickass
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>>82068998
>terezi has shown repeated tendency to become an easily manipulated lapdog in relationships
>vriska has shown repeated tendency to manipulate their partners in relationships

>healthy
>ship
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>>82068969
it wasn't 'a small part of the whole thing', people were expecting things to be sorted in act 6, and when they weren't they expected it in collide, and when they weren't they expected it in act 7.
it's only when act 7 came out that people knew for sure that nothing got resolved
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tz just needed a friend on the meteor that didn't want to fuck her

I still think the fact that rose didn't interact with her is weird writing, like there's a weird amount of effort put into the dancestors relationships and dialogue, but hussie won't write terezi and rose?
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>there will never be another series with a cast as unique and dynamic as Homestuck
>no other series will ever live up to the early punchy, natural dialogue
>nothing will ever fill this Homestuck shaped hole in my Homestuck shaped heart
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>>82069100
she just needed to chill out and stop chasing cocks tbqh senpai
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>>82068761
pretty sure that's a dancestor
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>nothing will fill the homestuck shaped hole in my homestuck shaped ass
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>>82067503
past regrets
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>>82069105
Homestuck made me realize that a lot of authors can't write dialogue for shit.
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So, now that Homestuck is over and we know half of the post-pause content was definitely made by PXS...

was the Ghostwriter theory true? (All stuff after DOTA being drawn and written by his friends, Hussie dropping Homestuck)
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>>82069105
homestuck characters feel so real, certainly at the beginning

they're just nerds
nerds who like things, dumb things, weird things, but totally sincere

nobody writes people like that
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>>82069100
Do you think she'd get on with Kanaya? I always found it odd there wasn't more interaction from Kanaya with Terezi and Karkar, especially the latter. She seemed like the obvious person to help him be less of a temperamental, insecure weenie
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>>82069160
Not at all. Even the worse bits feel like Hussie.
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>>82069160
no
that's a dumb conspiracy theory
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>>82069105
>i haven't read or watched anything besides homesuck
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>>82068697
>he gave up on leadership
>gets encouraged by Kanaya and Echidna that he is destined to be the great leader of trollkind
>humiliates himself hard during the ghost army
>beats up a small guy
Jesus fuck, if Davekat doesn't happen.

Poor guy is going to commits suicide.
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>>82069205
> humiliate himself in front of the ghost army

I think you missed the point, nobody wanted to be the first to go up
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>>82069199
Rec me something with better dialogue and characters, then.
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>>82069205
I like to imagine that carelessly throwing himself at English with no real hopes of doing anything inspired the army
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>>82069205
>beats up a small guy
Beaten UP by a small guy, you mean. Karkat couldn't even hurt Clover. The most he could do was restrain him.
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>>82069194
>>82069190
does the toxic masculinity bit feel like Hussie?
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>>82069230
Undertale
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>Rose and Dirk never got a single dialouge
>John never reunited with Casey after 3 years
>No one ever told Rose that her quest was important not just for personal growth but for actual tangible benefits, like creating a new fucking universe
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>>82069105
>there will never be another series with a cast as unique and dynamic as Homestuck
What is Worm?

>no other series will ever live up to the early punchy, natural dialogue
What is Virtue's Last Reward and Zero Escape in general?

>nothing will ever fill this Homestuck shaped hole in my Homestuck shaped heart
What is double death of the author?
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>>82069105
Dad look like he about to get that John bussy
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Hussie has given you the chance to make one ship canon, however it has to be a monogamous ship involving Eridan.
Who do you doom?
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>>82069167
Yeah, it really captured the way tight-knit groups of internet friends interact, with all the in-jokes and vague understanding of their home life. It's part of the reason I stuck around in the beginning, it was the first thing I noticed.
>>82069143
I actually feel like IM format for dialogue makes writing dialogue even easier in a weird way.
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>>82069299
eridan karkat

to decanonize davekat
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>>82069299
Rose.
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>>82069299
nepeta
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>>82069299
Eridan/Roxy
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Whatever happened to Rachel?
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>>82067572
Glad I decided to check /co/ for a thread b/c of this post
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>Yfw the epilogue is narrated by Shrek
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>>82069299
Hearts Boxcars
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>>82069299
Eridan/Dirk Spade edition
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>Hussie is going to kill off the entire ghost army except Vriska in the epilogue
>Dave will cuck Jade with Karkat
>the epilogue ends with John "Unloading Mags In Fags" Egbert uncovering a conspiracy involving ghost!Hussie forcing real!Hussie to kill off or cuck all the straight characters so he can have Vriska to himself
>it's too late to stop him
>THANKS FOR PLAYING! :^)
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>>82069288
FUCK I've been reading fanfiction instead of Worm, what the fuck is wrong with me? Thanks for reminding me.

I might try those games out but they don't really seem like my thing.

>>82069279
Undertale's great but it's not as long as Homestuck, like you get a few hours worth of great characters as opposed to two years.
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>>82069351
One of her shills will reply to you saying she broke up with Hussie.

She didn't, she just has a persecution syndrome and thinks people will attack her for being Hussie's girlfriend, so she deleted every public account and told everyone she knew to say Hussie got a new gf.
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>>82069288
actually yeah

what the fuvk is worm
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>>82069351
Iggy piggy killed her
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>>82069416
It's a superhero story, the same way Homestuck is a video game story.
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>>82069259
what
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>>82069394
>two years
>two
some of us have been here since before the beginning
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>>82069299
Eridan/Aradia
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>>82069436
>instead of actually listing trigger warnings it just says "if you want them you should leave"

oh boy
this should be awesome
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>>82069438
Sorry, I thought I was talking to someone who actually read Homestuck.
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>>82069394
not him and i've only played on of the zero escape games, but they seem to handle timeline shit waaay better than homestuck ever did
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>>82069476
hahahaha no@
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Why is everyone besides John bisexual anyway?
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>>82069449
Yes, and I'm one of them. Homestuck wasn't as good past year two.

I suppose I should have said "two great years, two decent ones, then poopoo".
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>>82069476
it handles meta shit better too
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>>82069133
That's clearly fucking Jade singing about Dave, listen to the lyrics
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>>82069531
the strilonde family seed is the gay one
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>>82069518
Homestuck just intentionally makes time travel vague so they can't fuck up, Zero Escape doesn't cheat
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>>82069531
Roxy is straight up disgusted by having to kiss a girl.
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>>82069549
You mean Jade singing about fucking Dave
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>>82069570
a fat girl
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>>82069602
A dead fat girl
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>>82069616
a dead fat and ugly girl
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>>82069299
Eridan/Mituna to commemorate the great times I had with all of you guys. I'm a little surprised I've never seen it before, honestly.

>>82069570
She was covered with blood, wasn't she
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>>82069616
>>82069602
Who is also her best friend and how's life depended on being kissed.
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>>82069599
Jade does not want to fuck Dave, Jade wants to make tender, sweet, caring happy love to Dave
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What's the worst theory of all time?

>Karkat is going to kill everyone
>Vriska becomes Lady English by killing LE
>Calliope becomes Lady English by fusing with Gamzee's other half and Davepeta
>Roxy becomes the new ruler of trollkind
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>>82069649
Jade wants to be gangbanged by as many copies of Dave as she possibly can at once.
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>>82069570
Then later on entering sexual intercourse with a rare green-skele-snek with the hands
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>>82069634
yeah hussie didn't think in terms of making sense, just in terms of debunking ships
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>>82069674
Yes, but sweetly and tenderly. She wants a bunch of them forming an intense rap quartet that sing their love for her while four others fill her up
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>>82069651
>>Vriska becomes Lady English by killing LE
This isn't actually the worst theory because it wouldn't be the most mary sueish thing she's ever done
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where is bowman

where is he? i know one of you fucks is hiding him from the rest of us, where the fuck is he
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>>82069676
>that one update where john very deliberately shook rose's hand instead of hugging her like everyone else
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>>82069722
he's working on his new album
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me love joey
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>>82069651
>Karkat is going to kill everyone
>Vriska becomes Lady English by killing LE

>worst theory
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Post your sin ships
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>>82069839
hussie<3race fetishing is a sin, I agree
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>>82069839
does tumblr just not understand how genes work?
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>>82069674
No, Jade wants Dave to hold her and hug her and tell her she's a good dog and make her wear a collar and no clothes.
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>>82069839
daverose

oh god daverose for days
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>>82069839
Before I read Homestuck I thought John/Jade was cute pairing.
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>>82069878
"we don't know what the machine did, also recessive genes" is their excuse, because they didn't read the recaps or news posts where hussie explained than it was just like reproduction, or a biology textbook
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>>82069893
and sometimes when she deserves it, kick and punch her and yank her leash hard
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>>82069839
Jesus, if the picture you chose is awful, you really should feel shame.
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>>82069839
johndad
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>>82069839
>>82069878
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>>82069922
>>82069878
Guys I think they just don't fucking care. Like at all. They simply do not feel a need to justify their fanart.
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>>82069946
which dad
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>>82069957
any dad
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>>82069956
For a lack of caring they sure like writing walls of text about it
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>>82069956
this fanart at least has some charm to it.
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>>82069956
why should they need to justify fanart dude

also that art is uber cute
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wwhen will eri find love
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>>82069929
No no, she wants to be petted and sleep at the foot of Dave's bed.
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>>82069997
and be put in a kennel
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>>82069956
I think drawing different races for characters is a nice design challenge. But when it enters headcanon territory it's getting weird.
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>>82069956
They look like the just swam in a garbage dump
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>>82069979
>>82069980
Yeah, see? My problem with all these vitiligo/trans/memeskin drawings is that they also happen to make the characters who are all canonically cute as hell UGLY AS FUCK.
>>82069975
Never seen this but I'll take your word for it.
>>82069980
Exactly.
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>>82069878
>Black Roxy + White Dirk With Freckles = Black Dave With Freckles
Makes reasonable sense to me, unless if you're talking about the straight blonde hair, in which case the Strilondes all have red, pink, orange, and purple eyes and 100% accuracy to real genetics is clearly not necessary and this particular piece at least makes an internal sense for the parentage. At least they didn't stick him with that afro puff that looks literally nothing like his actual hair.
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>>82070013
That would be counterproductive to the goal of "sleep at the foot of Dave's bed"
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>>82070039
>I've never seen a fanartist who draws jade with a beard write a wall of text to "explain" why they do it

you're one of them, aren't you
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>>82069989
When he finds Aradia
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>>82070039
>Never seen this but I'll take your word for it.
come on lad.
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>>82070039
everyone in that picture is so fucking cute idk what you're talking about
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>>82070061
You caught me, shit.
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someone post the collage of proof that everyone is canonically white and everyone except roxy has dual confirmation of it
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10006580/r Reminder to answer the age old question
Results are unsurprising so far
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>>82068751
>She then immediately goes and damns Tavrosprite forever to show you, the reader, that she isn't.
>mfw literally nobody remembers, cares, or talks about Tavrosprite
>not even Hussie

>>82068280
Wait, did the Vriskagram artists get to dictate what was happening in the panels, paperseverywhere-style?
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>>82070082
Show me.
>>82070085
Yeah that was my point, my bad. Just trying to show how to do it right.
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> you could wrote entire book from karkat words alone
> all of them still amounts to nothing in the end
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>>82070115
you think Hussie has given a shit about homestuck since the retcon?
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>>82070115
If they did I doubt they would have made davekat so overt, the artist who did that scene fucking HATES it.
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>>82070122
oh okay
cool
good taste, friend
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>>82070124
How in every hell ever conceived does Jade have more words than Rose?
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>>82070124
Vriska, a character who was either dead or not present for half of the series, gets all of that real estate. What did we do to deserve this?
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>>82070048
sometimes she doesnt deserve a bed
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>>82070146
thanks guy
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>>82064395
U havin' a giggle m8?
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dersecest vs prospitcest

Dersecest is hardcore, filthy, bathroom stall sex in an unsavory location.
Lots of spit and "FUCK MY PUSSY BRO" to be had

>dersecest is done through a glory hole

>dersecest starts out with snorting coke on a cheap hooker's ass and ends with a dead hooker in a ditch

Dersecest is anal and strap-ons

Dersecest is dogging at a local park

Dersecest is modeling for photographs turning into making amateur porn. In the park.

Dersecest is going for a nice walk. With a leash.

Dersecest is teasing and tension, shame and obsession, it's nothing but Rose slyly winding up Dave and Dave fighting his urges, being even more into it than she is but being horribly ashamed of it

Prospitcest is
>Jade taking tips from Jane on how to prepare meals
>Jade lovingly cooking John's favorite foods
>Jade and John sitting at the dinning room table, eating dinner together and talking about their day

Prospitcest is fun, wholesome, and pure.
When they make love, they do it in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.

prospitcest is handholding and relationship building

prospitcest is futureplanning and home-cooked meals made with specially with LOVE

Prospitcest is taking cute pictures together in the park.

Prospitcest is going for a nice walk.
>>
At least we can use Hussie's mistakes as what not to do if any of us eventually make something popular.
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>>82070124
>orange thing under Eridan
The fuck is that?
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>>82070166
Yes she does. Jade's always a good girl. Plus you shouldn't abuse rescue dogs like that.
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>>82070205
Davepeta and it is under Cronus
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>>82070205
Looks like Davepeta.
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>>82069105
I heard there exists some even longer literature work than Homestuck. You should check this out.
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>>82070198
Write a story for the sake of a good story, plan as much as you can and adhere to it as much as possible, and don't enter any sidetracking obligations?
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>>82070177
that fuckin karkat
ugh so cute
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>>82070124
>Calliope came in above 9/12 trolls
>Calliope came in above Jane
God bless

>Jasprosesprite^2 came in above Scratch
FUCK this fucking comic

Is that even counting his narration as part of his wordcount, though? Do Caliborn's narrative pieces count toward his? Does Hussie's wordcount as a character interacting with Caliborn count?
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>im two paragraphs into Worm

this is shit
why would you recommend this
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>>82069160
What is that picture supposed to prove?

That Eridan can drop his quirk and talk normally? We already knew that, hell so can the other trolls.

Or is this part of the Ghostwriter theory?
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I wonder why the MSPA format hasn't really taken off? The only non-Hussie comic I ever see talked about is Prequel. It seems like a format with a lot of potential, so what's stopping it?
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>>82070305
Nobody tell him
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>>82070291
Like Homestuck it become better on 1000th page.
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>>82070291
im almost throwing up
this writing so bad
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>>82070305
or maybe he posted a funny picture that's unrelated to his post
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>>82070305
Eri is actual author of Homestuck
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>>82070317
homestuck was good from the beginning you fuck
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>>82068198
It's hard. It's hard and everybody understands.

>>82069105
People will learn from Andrew's genius and from his mistakes.
In ten years, there'll be another Homestuck, or better yet, something that's higher quality than Homestuck while retaining its charm.

>>82069839
Tavris (preferably with some kind of equal balance of power though)
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>>82070291
Nice to know you've got shitty taste.
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>>82070092
I think only the Lalondes/Striders are 100% canon white
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>>82070314
Nobody wants to be or have to try and sell being a Hussie clone
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>>82070314
I imagine it takes some skill using reader input and use it to follow your plan of the plot, while still being open for new vectors and incentives through them.
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>>82070341
I don't know. First part is about some lame sleuth and it doesn't even connects to other half of story anyway.
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>>82070291
Wait wait, let me guess
You're pissy because it starts in high school? What a shallow and pedantic fuck you are.
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>>82070092
I always thought they were just using Grimdark Rose/Roxy.
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>Homestuck has ended
>HOMESTUCK
>IS FINISHED

>AND PREQUEL IS STILL ON HIATUS
aaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAA
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>>82070366
What so good about worm?
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>>82070366
Man the high school parts are the worst.
Not like bad worst but just fucking horrifying by what they do to Taylor.
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>>82070314
you need a dedicated fanbase already for it to work, especially for a music team
there's also more bandwidth costs if you do things like flash games
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>>82070366
no you idiot
it's the worst type of bad writing ive ever encountered

>Me? I just put my books away and kept quiet. I’d written down almost nothing in the way of notes; there were collections of doodles spreading across the page and numbers in the margins where I’d counted down the minutes to lunch as if I was keeping track of the timer on a bomb.

this is physicaly painful
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>>82070401
The whole establishing bullying as a theme is important consider the omnipotent godlike being that's the main villain is literally bullied to death
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>>82070344
>People will learn from Andrew's genius and from his mistakes.
truth
i can't wait
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>>82070428
>considers that bad
Way better than Hussie's worst.
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>>82070435
Do they shove them to the ground every time they stand up until they start crying

>>82070344
I'm writing a fantasy comic. What do you guys think would be the best takeaways from Homestuck writing-wise and visuals-wise?
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>>82070435
great

now that that is spoiled for me i have no reason to read this trite nonsense

>>82070453
not even CLOSE
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>>82070428
That sounds like a completely normal sentence to me. What the fuck do you consider good? Or are you mad because they're not using enough big words they found in a thesaurus?
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>>82070124
This is fucking weird bullshit.

Vriska has THREE Versions of her that dwarf EVERYONE combined.

Also, Arquis, and Two(?) versions of Equius? What am I missing here? When did that happen?
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>>82070486
>not even CLOSE

Oh god yes. Hussie is fucking terrible at times. It's hilarious how a Homestuck fan of all people is giving up on something in the beginning. Something tells me you're not particularly good at discerning good writing from bad writing.
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>>82070481
If you introduce something like classpects or whatever have something, even if its just a side conversation between side characters address and flesh it out at least somewhat so we aren't blueballed for 6 years about what blood does
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>>82070481
characterization
people who are people unti themselves, with interests thay aren't just bullets points in their introduction, but are intricately connected to who they are as people

>>82070497
it's really bad structure and intro to the character
it's like highschool fanfiction tier
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>>82070499
I think that's Vriska, Aranea, and... Mindfang?

And it's ARquius, Equius, and Horuss.

>>82070541
Duly noted.
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>>82070499
Did you missed Aranea's Expoditions?
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>>82070205
Davesprite maybe?
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>>82070530
where is he as simplistic and two dimensional as this


also i never had a problem getting into hoemstuck in the beginning
that whole "tough it out til it gets better" thing never made sense to me

this isn't the story turning me off in Worm, it's the level of sophistication of the writing
im being reminded of old naruto fanfiction i read as a kid
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>>82070556
Compared to what, Homestuck's intros to characters?
Face it, if Worm is bad than Hussie "writing is easy!" is fucking shit.
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>>82070567
Kinda.

She was a CUTE.
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Yes, Worm needs some editing, but the plot itself is superb. Remember Wildbow wrote it faster than Hussie wrote Homestuck, and without ever taking a break.

Everything but the timeskip is amazingly great.
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>>82064371
Has Tang done any more shit since getting out of the HS fandom? Her YT has been pretty dead besides the odd 4/13 or 6/12 vid. She was getting pretty fucking good at animating, would be a shame if it fell by the wayside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag_d0jxubwY
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>>82070601
this
Aranea is CUTEST
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>>82068198
Pretty good actually. I'm actually working on my finals, talking with broskis over skype, smoking dank, playing vidya... It's almost like I'm FREE

But then again it's only in HS's very nature that even after it ended... it didn't really end. But I'm happy to have other things on my mind.
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>>82070600
> implying writing is hard
Any autistic retard can write a book.
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>>82070632
They're dealing with anxitey attacks and probably some form of DiD, they still draw SU though
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>>82070600
>Madison was talking with her friends. She was popular, but not gorgeous in the way the stereotypical popular girls on TV were. She was ‘adorable’, instead.

this is textbook telling and not showing

"she is popular, and pretty, but NOT like those stereotypical girls, she was different"
"im not popular like her, i have dark curly hair and i'm quiet and not outgoing."

like holy shit.

the character intros in homestuck didnt take themselves seriously, it was a joke, their real characterization occurred in dialogue and interaction
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why have the homestuck forums been down literally a month? its killing all the discussion n shit
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>>82070481
Always answer mysteries in short order, and always be sure there are new mysteries to replace them. But for the love of God, have the answers to those mysteries planned out before you write word one.
Be funny if you ate making a comedy, and keep a consistent tone throughout. You can be dramatic and still use the language of comedy if that's your bag.
Take the time for characters to have utterly pointless interaction with each other over nothing relevant, the interactions matter.
Hordes of idiots will be drawn to large casts of colourful and diverse characters, especially you inject the subtext of them wanting to pork one another.
End the God damn thing when it's time to end it. Letting a story grow beyond it's originally intended scope is fine, but you need to be careful you don't lose control of the narrative and get forced into abandoning important elements just to keep things moving.
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>>82064694
Radiation is confirmed to be doing the music for Hiveswap though.
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>>82070685
some kind of conspiracy for damage control
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>>82070499
i was really confused by that, as well. the second saggitarius is Horrus, his dancestor. i don't remember that guy have any lines, i thought part of his joke was being so ridiculously shy he never said anything?
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>>82070597
>where is he as simplistic and two dimensional as this


Like fucking everywhere? You're two paragraphs in with no real context and you're already giving up. If this were Homestuck you'd be the kind of person who goes "WHY DOESN'T HE HAVE ARMS" and then quits. You've just gotten introduced to characters. Just shut the fuck up, get off your high horse, and continue.
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>>82070671
>and probably some form of DiD
Yikes, rough. Always one of my favorite big-name fanartists, they never took it super seriously.
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okay im the one who's been dissing worm

and im just going to say, even with all this, im going to give it a shot

but know that im suffering through this shit
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>>82070714
You could talk to him during Meenah's walk around. Not sure if you had to be a specific character or something. But he did talk.
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>>82070657
Good writing is hard though. Any dumbass can pick up a pen, doesn't mean it's easy being an artist.

>concept
Where's that picture from?
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>>82070691
>>82070556
I'm saving all of this advice. Thanks, buds.

>>82070714
You misremembered.
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>>82070680
Yeah see, it starts off like that, and then shit gets unwholesomely really. Also
>accusing something of telling but not showing
>reads Homestuck

Hussie is literally the worst at this. We have an entire major villain who even the characters in story were like "Why are we fighting this guy other than because the narrative tells us he's bad?"
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>>82070723
the WAY im getting introduced to the characters is SHITTY WRITING and i dont like it

just my opinion lol
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>>82068804
Piss but nice Titties
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>>82070564
Since I don't know what kind of fantasy it'll be, I just want things to be consistent
If a character needs to say a word to cast a spell, make sure that stays the case, instead of just waving a wand around like an idiot like HP eventually devolved into, the only exception is if we're shown, oh hey that inconvenience is no longer a thing but this is the tradeoff, etc
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>>82070770
it's a story about stories
that's the joke
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>>82070413
You could just do something Problem Sleuth-esque first.
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>>82070680
Yeah see, except this actually does characterize Taylor pretty well. She's this kind of detached micromanager. Things cross over into "showing" quickly enough. You haven't even gotten to the most basic superpower portions.
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>>82070714
> he never said anything
If only
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>>82070745
>but know that im suffering through this shit

I haven't read worm but honestly, you've been through fuckin Homestuck man... You should know that nothing can pull you down so low as HS did. You're pretty STRONG now.
>>
interesting note on Hussie's "ultimate self" shit, from a Hiveswap interview
>HS is supposedly a story that is also a game. In games, the characters die all the time. How many times did you let Mario fall in the pit before he saved the princess? Who weeps for these Marios. In games your characters die, but you keep trying and trying and rebooting and resetting until finally they make it. When you play a game this process is all very impersonal. Once you finally win, when all is said and done those deaths didn’t “count”, only the linear path of the final victorious version of the character is considered “real”. Mario never actually died, did he? Except the omniscient player knows better. HS seems to combine all the meaningless deaths of a trial-and-error game journey with the way death is treated dramatically in other media, where unlike our oblivious Mario, the characters are aware and afraid of the many deaths they must experience before finally winning the game.

might sound like a cop-out to some but i think it's an interesting narrative choice, especially given all the other video game motifs
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>>82070771
>lol
Oh god it's you
Look, could you please adopt a fucking trip?
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>all these retards not realizing Worm starts intentionally like a generic angsty teenager story so the setting reveal has more of an impact
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remember these things?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU31kG8TArM
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>>82070642
>hussie posts vriska's sprite on the forums so people don't fuck up fanart like they did tavros
>"oh good, a top-tier waifu"
>then she actually gets some focus
>think things will be different with aranea
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>>82070767
If you don't know it, look up The Eye of Argon on how to definitely not to write.

Although you are most likely already better than that. But might be good for a laff.
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>>82070805
>horuss is an otherkin weirdo
haha, i forgot about that
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>>82070805
So.... Horuss was stronger than Equius? The log implies he has the spirits of musclebeasts flowing in him, as well as technology enhancing him.

OR is this all fucking wankery?
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>>82070817
>characters are aware and afraid of the many deaths they must experience before finally winning the game.
Its funny since Dave did bring that up pre-retcon, and then it got dropped again
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>>82069299
Eridan/Fatvris
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>>82070820
listen how about
fuck you lol
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>Being completely empty and dead inside
>Yet smiling (and shitposting) though all of it and being in constant pain

we have become horse
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>anons think they can take her
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>>82070766
> Where's that picture from?
From my 250 pages long book.
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>>82070963
that kind of hurts my eyes man
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>>82070940
I couldn't take her, that's why I dropped Worm. I couldn't take any of it any longer, it got so bleak and the parts that weren't bleak were boring.
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>>82070940
>messing with Skitter
>not getting your shit kicked in so hard it prolapses

RollickingJapeChum.png
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>>82070963
Complacency of the Learned?
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>>82070879
He's just as STRONG as Equius only he has destrengthening gloves to control it.
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>>82070909
Kill yourself or get a trip, you're worse than vfan even.
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>>82070817
To build upon this metaphor, the Mario we were following got through all the levels to World 7 and then had a Game Over.
Now we're following a different, boring-ass Mario that skipped to the Warp Zones at every opportunity and used some third party cheat system to Starman his way through the final castle.
Kind of a shame.
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>>82070481
>What do you guys think would be the best takeaways from Homestuck writing-wise and visuals-wise?

>>82070691 has it pretty much covered with all of HS' bug successes, but I would add (and this probably is more about MSPA's successes in general)
>If you're going to set up internal rules for your universe, be almost religiously consistent with them. Things don't always have to make sense, but they should at least make sense in the context you've established.
>Leave breadcrumbs for yourself. One panel's throwaway gag, a little background exposition, an interesting art asset can all become legitimate, important plot elements if you need them to without being deus ex machinas.
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>>82071013
same to you buddy
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>>82070879
He was a good three sweeps older.
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>>82069839
tavros/anyone
>tfw tavros never gets to be in a caring relationship
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Aranea has the best feet
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>>82069916
it still is
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>>82070723
>"WHY DOESN'T HE HAVE ARMS"
shit i remember when that was everywhere, along with
>"HE'S NOT EVEN STUCK IN HIS HOME"
>>82070834
>so people don't fuck up fanart like they did tavros
shit what happened there? i wasn't around for that
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>>82071064
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>>82069839
Vriskat.

Pre-retcon versions being happy useless punks with zero ambitions.
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>>82071110
Fuck off 120
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>>82071038
That reminds me,

How long do Bluebloods like Equius, and I guess Vriska live for?

I know the Empress is immortal until usurped or death.
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>>82071064
>mfw shipped Tavrosprite/Happiness
>it never happened
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>>82071127
who
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>>82070986
do you mean the timeskip/arc 25? Literally just skim/skip it, this is my enjoyment graph of the book, but I haven't reread it in a long time and I forgot to include a huge drop for the Travelers
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>>82070894
>>82071025
very true, he really ended up fudging most of his whole overarching metaphors with the retcon shit. the "people don't have arcs" thing is fucked now too. pre-retcon i took it to mean more "you aren't done developing and you never really are" but post-retcon...nobody meaningfully evolved at all.

does homestuck have any general messages that didn't get fucked up in the end? MAYBE "online friendships are just as valid as IRL ones" but even then it was mostly a whole lot of hassle and death for everyone involved

still hoping for a decent epilogue, Hussie's smart enough to know just how bad this ending is
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>>82070847
God, trust me, I'm not going anywhere near that direction for it. Thanks for the rec, though, it's hilarious

The reason I started making this fantasy comic was because I hate high fantasy so fucking much and I just wanted to toss as much fantasy shit into one comic as possible. I've since edited a lot of it out and I'm trying to be selective about the limitations of the magic and locations while still making it sufficiently interesting.

I'm fairly confident in the quality of the plot and the characters but I need to make sure the rest is executed to my standards, so I appreciate possible reader perspectives, especially coming off of... this.

>>82071033
Yeah, the first one is a serious challenge for me right now. Magic is fucking hard to set up rules for when you're trying to be somewhat scientifically minded about it so no "anything goes" or "using Latin somehow unlocks secret powers of the universe" but also want to make it a spectacle (I'm mostly ripping off FMA by accident, which I'm somewhat ashamed about but alchemy is so fucking good?)
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>>82071064
I'm still fucking pissed about how hard the fandom misrepresented Tavros.
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>>82070685
Hussie burning bridges as usual. I wouldn't be surprised if he shut down MSPA and moved Homestuck to its own website.
>>
Dave/Tavros rap battle that descends into sloppy makeouts WHEN
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>>82070685
reddit's replaced it
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>>82071131
I think Mindfang wrote that she expected to live a couple of centuries. So I guess it's a little more for Equius' caste.
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>>82070685
We didn't take enough selfies. He's going to retcon it from the internet.
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>>82071109
we didn't know he was a cripple so people drew him doing fun things like walking and standing
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>>82071242
Never. Jade would never let that grandpa-murderer near her husband.
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>>82071186
> alchemy is so fucking good
It is a shame that nobody gets alchemy right.
>>
Dave/Rose rap battle that descends into sloppy makeouts WHEN
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>>82071186
Alchemy is probably the best starting point for scientifically-themed magic. Remember Clarke's third law. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Maybe think of the end goal you want for the magic, and work backwards.
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>>82071262
>didn't take enough selfies

Did you fucks actually believe that he's going to shut down the website? If not why did you do it then? OH I see! autists. yeah okay
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Dave/Jade just making out when
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>>82071206
He had and still has it so bad both inside and outside the comic.
So much potential wasted.

>>82071264
>>82071109
Nah guys it's the other way around. Kazerad (yes, the Prequel/Bug-people session guy) drew him in a wheelchair; starting a trend which ended up becoming canon.
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>>82069839
>brothers being a different race
What?
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>>82071236
> I wouldn't be surprised if he shut down MSPA and moved Homestuck to its own website.
don't even fucking joke
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are there every any references to eating pussy in the comic?
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>>82071259
> tfw in the end Eridan would win feferibawl if only waited enough for everyone to die from natural reasons
wwhy sdrub need to ruin evveryfin
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>>82071324
>father and son being a different race
Roxy's a slut confirmed
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>>82071164
What with them meeting teenage versions of their parents, who also have a lot of the same shitty issues and relationship stuff, I always assumed the story was going to be about having good relationships with your family, because they also went through the same experiences at some point. You know because it's a coming of age story. BUT I GUESS INSTEAD IT'S A COMING OF AGE STORY ABOUT HOW PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ARCS, THANKS HUSS
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>>82071321
> So much potential wasted
literally the page role in the game
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>>82071334
Mindfang controls a slave (presumably the Dolorosa) and forces her to pleasure Mindfang in front of Dualscar, but I think that's it
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>>82071321
oh, alright then
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>>82071156
No, I dropped it when S9 showed up. I realized there would never come a point when events would a) stop being depressing or b) de-escalate the stakes back to the street-level stuff I cared about, so I abandoned ship.
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>>82071348
Because you're a homicidal 'fuccboi' Eri.
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>>82070092
Really we only need to prove two of the kids are white. Genetics does the rest.
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>>82071334
Yes, in Mindfang's journal she mind rapes a slave into eating her out.
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>>82071378
what
what page is that on
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>>82071401
That's literally what happens after S9, though.

I agree that's the main problem of Worm, but it's because readers bullied him into never making "rest chapters", since they had to wait for every single one.

Editing will fix it, so maybe wait until then.
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>>82071348
>eridan would have gone on to be a decorated space admiral with plural bitches
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>>82069839
Simply the best.
>tfw have a qt gf who wants to cosplay dave and rose
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>>82071434
vriska calls john's torso pink
rose is described as white
dirk is described as white
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>>82071377
>mfw all this foreshadowing about pages being fearsome, able to defeat a lord with ease, or getting ridiculously OP powers
>jake knocks out caliborn
>that's it, that's the payoff
Damn it.

>>82071334
There's a book in the library in Seer: Descend which is erotic fanfic of the Prospit Queen. I think it hinted at that.
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>>82071440
idk where it is exactly, somewhere in mindfang's journal

>>82071445
nah, he was always gonna die before doing anything cool. Dualscar literally got beat to death because he was trying to snitch and couldn't tell a joke
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>>82071401
Gee, sounds like Homestuck
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>>82071321
>So much potential wasted.

I SEE THIS IN EVERY THREAD,
LITERALLY EVERY FUCKIN THREAD.
STOP BITCHING.
IT WON'T GET BETTER IF YOU DO, HS IS OVER!

Instead why don't we nostalgiagasm over the good parts?
inb4
>What good parts?
>We already did that
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>>82064395
Y8U WH8T
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>>82071491
>eridan could have been someone if an aquarius didn't touch hussie inappropriately as a child
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>>82068198
I was about to laugh at your failure. Goes to show, you should always look at the Big Picture.
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>>82071519
the problem of homestuck is that stakes kept lowering until there was virtually no risk

karkat faced lord english, lost, and he was fine right after
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>>82071520
Aranea was good
>>
What the fuck is Worm? Never heard of it. Should I read it? Jesus, is it gonna end up consuming me for the next 5 years like HS did? It's at least finished, right
>>
>>82071567
It's as big as Homestuck but with a satisfying ending.

It's about superhero munchkining. If you've heard of "rational fics" it's kind of got the same feel, without annoying main characters.
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>>82071567
Yeah. It's a superhero novel.
>>
homestuck made me a slave to eating girls out and a submissive slut in general, guys
why did hussie make all of the female characters (aside from jane and latula) so irresistible and so easily fantasized about

was this the plan? to give me a boner?
cause i got one
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>>82071603
also rereading my post has made me realize newspeak is a thing, we truly live in the future
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>>82071626
HA-HAWWW
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>>82071442
Doesn't matter, it soured the story for me. To get to the part you're talking about I would have to wither skip forward and miss a bunch of context for whatever follows, or sit through the bleak shit that turned me off in the first place in the hopes that whatever follows is worth it.

And based on what I've heard about Worm since then, even if whatever brief reprieve follows the S9 arc WAS worth it, afterwards I'd be plunging right back in the depressing, endlessly escalating stew. I don't have the gaping, superhero shaped hole in my life that would be necessary for me to sit through reading something, ostensibly for pleasure, that I'm just not enjoying-- I wouldn't do it for any reason, let alone because someone on 4chan told me I should.

Young-woman-becomes-a-well-intentioned-villain may be an itch that needs scratching, but I have Practical Guide to Evil for that, and it doesn't try its damned to twist the knife every new chapter.
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>>82071626
what the fuck is wrong with latula
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>>82071309
Sorry to go HYW in this Homestuck thread, I just want some feedback on it and you guys have good enough taste:

The basic concept for the magic is that through willpower people are able to subvert natural physical laws (creating additional matter from nothing, creating objects/locations with more space on the inside, that kind of typical stuff) and manipulate matter telekinetically, but actual mastery of it requires a lot of scientific study and psychic meditation on the structure of physical reality. You need to be able to fully conceptualize what you're manipulating, down to molecular structure. This is especially important for medical practitioners, who can do very advanced surgery but can also fuck up very easily.

There's also a specific source for this ability that limits its practice to a few heavily populated corridors of the country, with particular hotspots that gather practitioners and manufacturers.

The worst plothole for my story is why the main character would go on a roadtrip where quickness is key with someone to a large city instead of taking a train the world should ostensibly have, but the road trip is key. Maybe she doesn't have the money... but then the dude who offers the roadtrip could cover that cost, so that's not a great cover? Maybe there are too many erratic magical hotspots for a straight-shot via railroad and navigating requires the finesse of a vehicle? Maybe the train's laughably slow?
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>>82071434
Doesn't Rose call Dave an albino?
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>>82071626
Jane's waifu tier too, not as much as Jade is but still

>>82071671
Man after Leviathan did you really think it wasn't going to be death and destruction everywhere? The author literally had a 38 sided dice he rolled to kill of a bunch of characters
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>>82071520
One of the few good things about late act 6, the literal best Tavros moment. http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009755

>TAVROS: dO YOU LIKE GETTING OWNED???
>TAVROS: bECAUSE THAT'S MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY GETTING NOW! OWWWWWNED,,,,,!
>TAVROS: sO, mIGHT i INVITE YOU, tO SUCK IT!

>THE TAVROS FINALLY DID SOMETHING USEFUL CHARLESTON
>THE TAVROS GETS TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL CHARACTER ARC SHUFFLE
>THE TAVROS TELLS VRISKA TO GO SUCK IT CABBAGE PATCH
>THE TAVROS IS FEELING PRETTY PLEASED WITH HIMSELF ALL OF A SUDDEN AIR GUITAR
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>>82071448
ugh you lucky bastard
i mean, i wouldnt want to cosplay or rp
but it seems like a lot of fucking fun
especially daverose
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>>82071711
> give up all army to vriska
wow! what a character moment!
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>>82071681
Fear/distrust of trains/magical tech? Trains require ID and she's on the run? Dude needs to pick something up that can't go by train/has a reason not to use the train?
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>>82071711
>TAVROS: sO, mIGHT i INVITE YOU, tO SUCK IT!
best character
best boy
taurus are the best
scorpios can eat a dick
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>>82071564
>ARANEA WAS SHIT YOU EVIL AUTIST

there. stick that in a /hst/ simulator meme video.
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>>82071603
you what m8

>>82071610
okay thank you for typing in goddamn english.

>>82071716
probably gonna be less fun than it was back in 2012-14 when it was at its anime convention-ruining peak but it's something we've wanted to do together since before we were even dating so shrug. cosplay's p fun though, for the same con i think we're also doing s6 Monarch and DMT Monarch
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>>82071773
>>82071711
>>82071321
good to see some tavros love, he was one of the few characters i still really like.
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>>82071707
I didn't read it while it was being written, and only heard about the rolling thing later. I didn't like Leviathan either, but I had a little bit of hope that we'd get an arc to cool down afterwards. Obviously we didn't.
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>>82071671
>even if whatever brief reprieve follows the S9 arc WAS worth it, afterwards I'd be plunging right back in the depressing, endlessly escalating stew

Yes, the problem gets even worse after the part I mentioned. The timeskip is the most depressing shit you'll ever read.
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>>82071835
> timeskip is the most depressing shit you'll ever read
time to drop the story
even if i don't even started with it
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>>82071753
It is. Tavros not having a backbone wasn't his main problem, being useless was. By gathering the army he saw a problem and took steps to overcome it. Standing up for himself is only worthwhile if he is someone worth standing up for, and this was the first example of him moving towards just that.
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>>82070193
New Headcanon: Sburb decides if you are Prospit or Derse based entirely on how kinky/depraved you are in bed.
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>>82071865
You'll ever read in Worm. There's probably more depressing stuff in actual tragedies.
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>look up worm
>it's not even a webcomic, it's all fucking words
nah
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>>82071868
>nepeta is derse
>vriska is prospit

I like it

>>82071885
>hates words after reading Homestuck
>posts Doc Scratch
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>>82071812
he's my boy
seriously
im basically tavros
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>>82071757
>fear of trains
Don't tell trainwiz
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>>82071868
Fair enough, I think we can all agree Prospit is home to all of the real kinky fuckers.
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>>82071681
wait what the fuck
I'm writing a story identical to that, but with witches
are you me?
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>>82070193
dersecest is bestcest
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>>82071885
that is why I stick with visual novels
at least there are images and not only words
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005407

the page about eatin mad pussy if anyone is interested
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>>82071753
He gave it up to Meenah, and anyway the leadership role meant jack shit besides what Tavros already did. He doesn't give a damn about that questionable glory.
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>>82071908
shit goddamn at least i got to see some nice art and flashes for all the words, there was at least SOME effort justification to be had
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>>82071929
>>82071681
stop samefagging
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>>82071910
i was like that too, he was the only character i related too

i have a lot more self-confidence now in, thanks in part that i started drawing. having a goal to work for is really nice.
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>>82071930
yes
YES
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>>82071684
Dave calls himself albino
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>>82071876
Actual, well executed tragedies are purgative, you build up negative emotions and then release them. Worm just lets them fester.
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>>82071910
I feel so bad for you.
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>>82071970
same
i feel like i too have walked the path of the page
im on a much better path now and it's going to be okay
hope you're doing well tavbro
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>>82071757
She might be a little skittish on magic but the vehicle's also magical tech. ID's a great idea, she's not on the run but she's definitely not from the area and wouldn't have adequate identification. And the dude's just helping her out, he's otherwise a stranger to her, but maybe his ride's a bit faster than the train even with stops and since it's along the most interesting corridor of magic he wants to check out some of the biggest attractions (bonus: I, the writer, get to show off these sick-ass attractions, unbonus: the main character is going to get seriously stressed out by this)

>>82071885
Oh come on, anon. I want another good webcomic too but don't potentially toss the baby out with the bathwater just because it's a different format.

>>82071929
Man, probably not but want to compare story notes? What's your premise?
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>>82071970
> tfw only related to terezi
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>>82071965
fuck yourself into oblivion
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>>82071970
>>82072020
Remember the Lord's words, Pages
Never give up or let anybody talk shit to you
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>>82071959
reading "Stand if you side with me” scene is more satisfying than anything in Homestuck, but it's your call
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>>82071977
I would believe it, he has the red eyes to back it up. Rose probably isn't, her violet eyes kind of preclude it.
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>>82072024
>gamzee got to touch her feet
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>>82072017
you should

>>82072046
hell yeah
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>>82072023
how is that an unbonus? you make your mc work hard for that happy ending and get character interactions
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>villain in an rp i'm in is pretty much exactly lord english
>the thing's already gone on for much longer than it should have
>everyone keeps telling me not to worry about it
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>>82071681
Read Ra

https://qntm.org/ra
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>>82071997
Nah, unlike Homestuck, Worm at least has a satisfying conclusion
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>>82071970
>tfw related to Karkat the most
>tfw continued to identify with the way his pre-retcon arc was going
>tfw he got retconned into a beta cuck
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>>82070124
>Terezi below Caliborn
Damn, I'm sad now.
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>>82071711
>Vriskas face throughout the whole thing
kek
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>>82072082
this already looks far better than worm
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>>82068198
I keep expecting to check the website and Hussie saying he was just kidding about that being the ending and that Homestuck will never end
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>>82072109
Everything in qntm is "delirious biznasty amazing idea ruined by a writer who's terrible at writing fiction". I'm only linking it because it could give you some ideas.

Seriously, where Worm descends into depression, Ra descends into "what the fuck am I even reading and why should I care about what's happening right now?", and it never stops.
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>>82072091
> retconned
yeah totally retconed from totally not beta cuck like he was before
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>>82071970
>relating to Tavros

Sucks to be you I guess.
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>the Prince is dead
And now Eridan has no chance of returning.
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>>82072165
Well that's literally Homestuck
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>>82072165
> what the fuck am I even reading and why should I care about what's happening right now?
I like this! Best type of fiction.
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>>82071626
>implying Latula isn't best
Mituna lucked out. They're both qt though.
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>>82072190
No, if it was anything like Homestuck I would have said so. Hussie knew how to write relatable characters and how to present information to the reader in a way that they'll understand.

The writer of qntm doesn't give a shit that people don't understand and never tries. I've read both stories because I'm a masochist, but get ready to read walls of text after the story is over with the author apologizing and explaining every plot point.
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>>82072225
Nice try but Doom has nothing to do with Luck
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>>82072064
The unbonus really comes from the fact that the dude she's travelling with is characterized by empathy and perceptiveness, he'd be disinclined to stress her out. Maybe he stops less frequently as they get closer to the destination? Good opportunity for relationship development, but unfortunate development because one of my favorite spots in the comic is about a 10th of the trip out from the destination and the way back is much more of a mad dash.

>>82072082
Ooh, will do.
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>>82072233
> get ready to read walls of text after the story is over with the author apologizing and explaining every plot point.
Well that's literally Homestuck
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>>82072280
Yeah I seem to keep making it sound like Homestuck.

I guess it's Homestucks flaws turned up to eleven.
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>>82072280
Hussie does owe us an apology and an explanation though
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>>82072023
well, its not *identical* but
Withces are outed in society as being real, and are blamed for all the worlds' major problems and/or doing nothing to stop them. For this, witches are sort of in indentured servitude and are held under government supervision to cure diseases and stuff and , later, to harvest and sell their powers.

Main character befrends some highschool nerds and finds out they are withces. One girls mom is kidnapped at a underground witch meetup so the teens go on a roadtrip to save her.

I guess they're not that similar really
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>>82072225
Let's rank relationships!
Mituna/Latula > Mom/Dad = Roxy/John >= Rose/Kanaya > Condy/Sassacre > Sollux/Aradia > Calliope/Roxy > Caliborn/Jane Whatever the fuck is going on between some combination of Jade/Dave/Nep/Karkat/Nep+Dave/Terezi > Dirk/Jake > absolute shit > Vriska/anyone except hussie, since they deserve each other.
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>MSAP Forums offline for maintenance
What does it mean?
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>>82072349
they got hacked, lost all their user data, and none of the mods know who's in charge, they aren't allowed to tell anyone about the hack and the forums aren't coming back
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>>82072348
You're full of shit
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>>82072348
Still feel Roxy/John went too fast to be considered anything more than a mutual infatuation at this point
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>>82072348
Nah, Dave/Jade > things
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>>82072379
Sad. That was only place where I would public my perfect classpect theory that explains what Blood and Mages really do.
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>>82072403
blood is kinship and vitality so there's that
mage is still stupid
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>>82068577
I feel like this mostly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_zFj7sRz-o
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>>82072349
The site got owned by a really shitty hacker about a month ago. The newest version of the forum software would have the same security flaw so the people in charge just walked away. That's the rumor anyway.
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>>82072379
>>82072458
Wait really?
I meant that as a joke more than anything
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I wish Homestuck ended some time in Act 5 instead.
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>>82072490
Really.
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>>82071681
>>82072023
Completely unrealted train crash stopped their train from departing?
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>>82072501
>MSPAF DAOOTS
>Tumblr moved on to SU
>DA is DA
What a pathetic, doomed session we're in. Why haven't we scratched it yet?
>>
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE FUCK YOU ARE BUT I KNOW THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE

YOU'RE LIKE STEPHEN KING. WHEN I READ THE ENDING TO THE DARK TOWER, IT WAS LITERALLY

>LOL HE ENTERED THE TOWER SHOUTING PEOPLE'S NAMES

AND THEN HE HAS THE AUDACITY TO BERATE YOU FOR WANTING A SATISFYING CONCLUSION AND WANTING TO KNOW WHAT WAS SO IMPORTANT AND INTERESTING INSIDE. FUCKING BELITTLING YOU FOR HAVING CURIOSITY AND SPOUTING SOME BULLSHIT ABOUT HOW
>THE JOURNEY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE DESTINATION

WELL GUESS WHAT?!

YOU'RE FUCKING WRONG AND EVERYONE WHO THINKS LIKE THAT IS WRONG! THE POINT OF A JOURNEY IS TO GET TO A DESTINATION YOU WANTED BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULDN'T UNDERTAKE THE JOURNEY IN THE FIRST PLACE!

IF I FOLLOWED THAT LOGIC THEN MY GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE DIED MUCH EARLIER BECAUSE I WOULD'VE GONE FOR HIS INSULIN BUT INSTEAD OF GETTING TO THE PHARMACY, I WOULD'VE MET INTERESTING PEOPLE, AND HAD TEENAGE DRAMA PROBLEMS AND MAYBE GOT INTO A FIGHT, AND NEVER MADE IT TO MY DESTINATION, AND COME BACK A WISER MAN.

BUT GUESS WHAT?!

MY FUCKING GRANDFATHER WOULD'VE BEEN STILL DEAD BECAUSE I NEVER MADE IT TO MY FUCKING DESTINATION!

SO YES, I AM COMPARING THIS SHIT TO MY GRANDFATHER DYING BECAUSE IT'S METAPHORICALLY THE SAME THING. AND YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT IF YOU SUPPORT THIS.

The only thing. THE ONLY FUCKING THING that makes this all better is that I only joined the bandwagon a month ago. If I had invested more time in this, I would've felt bad. Now, NOW I can just go on with my life. But I feel so bad for other people, who ARE actually invested in this.

SON OF A MOTHERFUCKING FUCK I AM STILL FURIOUS!
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>>82072544
Post the DaveJade ones
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>>82072312
Yeah, that's nowhere near my story's premise.

A woman and her fiance stumble into a magic-based world while on a camping trip. [First major spoiler plot event] happens and the MC is recommended to travel to the leading magical university on the other side of the country to fetch a fully developed wizard to bring back and help solve her predicament. While on the road she and the dude she's travelling with pick up a vampire (insanely nice dude, they form a great trio), the wizard (asshole), the wizard's friend (also an asshole), and [second major spoiler plot event, related to first]. There's a few different species involved, lore unfolds, characters get developed, magic goes down.

>>82072523
Possible, but pushing unlikelihood even moreso than the dude being willing to travel several thousand miles with a stranger.
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>>82072491
I like these picture with many characters and so many little details to spot
Eridan getting dressed up is cute
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>>82072544
nice copy/paste bro
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>>82072384
Mutual infatuation leads to lots of sex regardless.
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>>82072659
Which couple will be having the most sex?
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>>82072680
derse kids horniest kids
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Come join the /co/ sburb session negros
http://overseer2.com/

name: Converging_/co/_Connection
password: Hussie_Zahack

also this
https://discordapp.com/channels/172467488934592512/172467488934592512
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>>82072707
I meant actual canon couples
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>>82072724
John/Roxy for sure. Roxy is freaking horny.
Jade is as well but I'm pretty sure she's more content just lying next to Dave sharing his mutual warmth
>>
Is there any fanart of Caliborn just hanging out with the kids?
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>>82071711
It was hilarious. The highest non-Caliborn-related point of late Act 6, in my opinion.
In the end the army amounted to bait and Meenah let Vriska lead the remaining ghosts, which kinda ruined the whole thing.

But at least for a dozen panels, Tavros was happy and Vriska was uncomfortable. This is the only thing that matters.

>>82071773
>>82071812
>>82071910
>>82071970
>People recognizing Tavros as a Mituna tier husbando
This warms my cold, evil heart.
Though I'm sorta concerned for those of you who relate to him. :x
>>
Y'know something?
It took me a while to get into Homestuck, and even longer to bother looking up the fandom, but I've been following it for a while
And around the same time it's finishing up I managed start getting my adult life together, landing a decent job just a month ago, about to move into my own place this weekend, and I know it's stupid but now it just feels like it's over and I became an adult at the same time.

Looking back it makes me really really sad that it's over now, despite everything, I LIKED Homestuck, I liked the joy it brought me, and now it's over and I'm in a situation where I don't have much time to devote to following things I like

Guess I can't really do much now than wait for something else to catch my eye and hope Hussie's next work is as good as Homestuck was
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>>82071434
incorrect, my friend
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>>82072530
i lost the image of metastuck's ending
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I just realized that John never reunited with Casey.
He's a pretty horrible father.
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>>82072053
>>82071977

>TG: beep beep albino hairless dickmonkey coming through
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>>82072955
He reunited with his actual son.
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>>82072955
well yeah
everyone knows the best dad is going to be Dave
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>>82072188
oh fuck
OH FUCK
our prince is daoots
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>>82072188
>>82073042
Goddammit, don't you EVER doubt the return of our prince. He'll be back one day.
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>>82072723
How do I work this?
I get Invalid username: Converging_/co/_Connection
we found 0 rows
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>>82072997
I wonder if they just both call each other Dad in the postgame world. Like not out of confusion or anything, they both know by now how shit works, it's just an agreement that looks cute.
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>>82073077
PRINCE IS DEAAAAAAD
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>>82073087

Cause you need to log in first, then join a session. That's the session name.
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>>82070244
Are you sure? Fucked up if true.
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>>82073094
that'd be 2cute4me
which one is daddy when they play
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>>82073000
Dave's going to throw his kids off a roof
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>>82072955
the imps were pretty cute
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>>82072974
I didn't doubt that he said it, I mean I believe he might actually be telling the truth instead of making yet another quip.
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>>82072953
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>>82073102
NO HE ISN'T YOU SON OF A BITCH
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>>82073117
have you read fallout equestria yet
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>>82073164
HE'S GONE ANON
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>>82073094
requesting this image as Roxy
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>>82072491
If only anon.

We'll never have the whole gang pose for a team pic.

The dream is dead.
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>>82073131
Dave will sit and reflect on what his bro did and not do that. He might be naturally dadish but he'll be nervous and terrified of screwing up, which will motivate him to research and practice being a good dad and pour himself into it, which will ultimately make him successful as one.
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>>82073160
DA is the Jane of Metastuck
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>>82073197
You're fucking lucky Karkat mod hasn't been around in a long while you motherfucker.
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>>82071164
> pre-retcon i took it to mean more "you aren't done developing and you never really are"

Such a good way of putting it, now I'm even madder that Hussie didn't really touch on this.
>>
>>82072379
>>82072458
You're shitting me right?

I need some REAL CITATIONS HERE
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>>82073306
prince is literally dead, anon
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>>82073336
From what I understand they weren't the target butt they had servers in the same building
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>>82073353
And of the fucking flu, of all possible things
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>>82073368
for fucks sake, that's what did it?
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>>82073388
Yep, recently released. He's been hospitalized for about a week after an emergency landing his plane had to take because he got sick.
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>>82073360
So who were the real targets?
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>>82073273
>practice being a good dad

I can just see him dragging John off to a rooftop somewhere, sitting him down, and going "Okay, just shut up and pretend to be my kid for a minute while I practice the Talk," and they'd get into the usual bullshit the pair of them get into but it would end up actually helping.
>>
So if the kids made a new universe, doesn't that just reset the cycle and mean that eventually there will be a new group of kids that have to play the game again?
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>>82073433
And don't forget watching Star Trek because he heard that Spock wrote a book about baby and childcare
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>>82073442
Who fucking knows. Like, was SBURB's propagation a product of LE? Wasn't that kind of his thing?
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>>82073433
I was in mind of him pouring over ancient baby-raising texts and timecloning himself to read them all while dreading the eventual parenthood he has to suffer.
And then even going so far as to talk to Dad.
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>>82073416
damn
well
goodnight sweet lrince
but that of all things, at 57
was he immunocompromised?
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>>82073527
a rumor was released 4 days ago or so saying an african american singer got AIDS
>>
Imagine Hussie's death
What will do him in
>>
so i reread homestuck when it ended, thinking that it would somehow
make the ending not shit

It sorta worked, knowing how it ends actually improves act 4-6 incredibly and everything seems to click and make sense
collide was very well done and a perfectish final battle

act 7 was still shit tho
it feels like there should have been one more sub-act to clear shit up
hopefully the epilogue fixes this
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>>82073202
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>>82073687
cocaine from hollywood money
guy can't handle fame
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>>82073687
Rabid davekat fan
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>>82073696
>roxy admiring calliope, her lovely wife.png
yea good
i like you
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>>82073687
dies choking on an olive garden breadstick
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i can't believe hussie fucking hetbaited me with johnroxy
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>>82073696
>Roxy
>dyke
>wont even kiss ded Jane when the gayest guy ever could

ayy lmao
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>>82073687
Hussie's gonna die after finally deciding to ride a horse only to get bucked off and snap his neck.
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>>82073809
Pretty much every het ship was hetbait, now I know what it feels like.
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>>82073809
he wrote the best ship as het feat. a character introduced in the worst part of the comic, it's unbelievable
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>>82073813
she only likes skeletons.
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>>82073696
I love you!
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>>82073813
obviously she's asexual
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>>82071681
You write like a tvtropes poster.

Having consistent rules for your fantasy world is like having your spelling right. Yes, you need it for your story not to suck, but the fact that getting that right is your primary focus proves you've got no idea what makes a story good, instead of just acceptable.

What is your story about? Because it needs to be about something, not just a list of rules or "dramatic" plot points. You aren't writing a Dungeons and Dragons setting sourcebook, or a video game where things keep happening because there's X amount of story left and you have to fill it all with plot points. Homestuck is about growing up as a nerd in the modern world. Everything, from the original setup of four socially alienated internet friends to the constant game motifs to the grimdark Never Never Land the trolls live in, it all exists to further than one underlying theme. Mid act 6 is when the story starts to diverge from that, having shit happen just because we've got a plot we need to wrap up, and the story suffers heavily for it.

All the creators of geek media that gets popular without a huge swell of marketing behind it understand that. Undertale is about violence. Steven Universe is about love. They aren't about the mechanics of how many arms a fused gem has or how many Jack Noirs John can kill with a single tornado. No one fucking cares how lovingly detailed your bullshit magic systems are. Those are the things people crib off of to write fanfics, but it's not why they read the stories in the first place.

Throw your high fantasy anime-ripoff road trip story in the garbage where it belongs and go back to the drawing board until you can come up with something to write about instead of just something to write.
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>>82073718
>>82073724
>>82073755
>>82073850
>Hussie dies
>Whatever comic is being posted on MSPA suddenly starts updating at Hussie's old update rate and/or a new comic starts
What would you do?
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>>82073696
>filename
perfect
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>>82074058
>Our Faces When Hussie's final trollish act was to have a 2nd MUCH better version of Homestuck ready ONLY to be released after his death
>OFW this is the Homestuck 2.0 that's been rumored
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>>82074058
>retrieve arms from safe
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>>82074032
Did you break your neck from the fall after jumping to all these conclusions?
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>mspa was ALWAYS ghostwritten
>Hussie is a rich kid who got hired to let other writers get fame after Problem Sleuth
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These sure are some boring conspiracy theories that don't lead anywhere noticably different than reality anyway.
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>Hussie hated Jade because he reminded her of his ex Betelgeuse

So when Jade got a happy ending and stayed good, what does that say?
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>>82074373
Compared to Rachel anyone looks good
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>>82074373
He started dating a girl that reminds him of Jade.
Ironically by dating him ipgd assured davekat's sinking
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>>82073736
>>82073947
>>82074091
You're all my friends.

>>82074032
>the fact that getting it right is your primary focus
It's... very much not the primary focus? That's why I'm asking about it now, after writing out the story. I want to make sure the finer points are smoothed out so the magic system isn't distractingly terrible. The focus is definitely going to be on the characters, their emotions, and the atmosphere of the world.

Granted, I couldn't tell you the main "theme" of the story in the same way that SU is about love or Undertale is about mercy. Maybe I could work on that. But... yeah, you really jumped to conclusions, I am far from a high fantasy writer obsessed with the magic system and letting emotional investment fall to the wayside.
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>>82074416
ipgd is like a sour beforan inverse of jade at most man
if anything she's dave's ironic bs played straight because she has no real personality
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>>82074416
>mfw ipgd dating Hussie explains why she moved to Boston without working for What Pumpkin
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>>82074455
jesus, fuckin savage
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>>82074416
>Hussie did davejade at the end as some sort of overture to her
>ipgd realizing her very existence sabotaged davekat
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>>82074473
not him but I just realized ipgd is the anthony burch of personality
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>>82074416
>hussie and ipgd are dating
that definitely sounds like something that isn't true, is that true?
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>>82074445
Why must you torment me.
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