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So was the retcon the absolute worst thing to happen narrative wise?
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Close 2nd.
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The Dancestors were the worst bit, imo.
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I didn't have much issue with it, because John and Roxy were two of my favorite characters and they came out intact.
I liked the idea of being able to fix things in the timeline without fear of paradox, too.

The only thing I really mourn is the character development for Rose.
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Of all the characters who didn't deserve to die, who deserved to die the least?
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>>81812478
Spades Slick.
All the man wanted was to avenge his casino.
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>>81812478
Fuck man, I dont know...
Midnight crew?
We watched SS gather up the felt and prepare to take on LE. We were made to root for him, it felt like he was the hero of the story

And then he just died
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>>81812420
>Still can't draw hands
I bet she watches Steven Universe
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>>81812478
Equius and or Feferi.

Equius due to potential ass kicking, and the cop out of him NOT fighting Gamzee one on one, or at the very least redemption.

Feferi because literally, what the fuck did she do plot wise? I don't even remember.
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>>81812478
mom did nothing wrong
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>>81812534
he still has merch to sell, i'm sure he wouldn't want a warehouse of that stuff in his basement
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>leadup before the final fights is all the characters realizing "winning the game" isn't going to solve their problems
>lots of existential crises about what they're going to do even if they create a new universe
>Act 7
>Don't worry, everybody's happy, it's all wrapped up tightly in a nice neat bow!
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>>81812478
Mom and Dad were just two hardworking guardians having a lovely romantic dinner together.
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>>81812559
>I bet she watches Steven Universe
no shit, look at that second aradia.
fucking garbage
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>>81812478
Wait, is Sollux confirmed dead (or double-dead?)
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>>81812478
>Sollux
>dead
He doesn't count and you know it
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>>81812478
missing Aranea but she deserved it the most
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>>81812559
shelby's a walking example of how connections are more important than actual skill.
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Why does Hussie hate Karkat and (Vriska) so much

What the fuck is wrong with him
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>>81812595
still being rused by caliborns anime? idiots, never doubt the huss
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>>81812478
AR and Spades Slick are tied in my book
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>>81812470

Rose's "character development" before the retcon was negative, anon. Same with Terezi. They needed Game Over to get good again.

Meanwhile Karkat, who DID have some character development, got shafted and replaced with lame weenie fake Karkat. And to top it off the pre retcon version of him was never seen again.
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>>81812575
>Feferi because literally, what the fuck did she do plot wise? I don't even remember.
convinced the Horrorterrors to make dreambubbles
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>>81812603
>>81812478
I'd kind of agree with mom and Dad.
They were killed off for essentially no reason, and the person who killed them faded into obscurity within the comic, to the point where he wasn't even considered a villain anymore.
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At 900+ posts each 30 minutes we didnt even get a sticky, yet other shit had one that died at 1000 posts.
And this is how homestuck ended. Go to bed.
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>>81812607
No.
Sollux, Aradia, and Vriska's fates are unclear.
Some people think they died in the black hole, some people think they didn't.
We don't get to fucking see because Act 7 doesn't explain anything.
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>>81812607
He was half dead but then full alive because of erisol, but now he's ?? dead depending on if erisol is alive. But there might be 2 solluxes because of the retcon, one half dead and the other fully alive.
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>yfw Caliborn won
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>>81812621
You fucking shitlord. I'm close to failing my classes at community, but people like you are playing with my fucking heart strings with all this crap about Huss NOT shitting the bed.

The worst part? I'm staying up till 11:59! Just to see if it's gonna happen or not.
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>>81812559
of course she does. look at that "redraw"

i swear ill never not get mad at that fuckin image. how do u go to college for art only to come out of it just as subpar

makes me so mad. i had to drop out bc i cant afford rent on top of classes and this fucker takes it for granted
aaaAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>81812633
A character gaining negative attributes is good narrative development. It gives them an opportunity to shed their bad habits and become a better person.
That opportunity got dunked in the trash.
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reminder that 25$helby is literal human garbage and contributed nothing good to Homestuck at all
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>>81812555

He did get to die pretty heroically while helping to defeat a Lord English at least.

Not that any of the other characters will ever know.
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>>81812439

Oh, come on, that was a hilarious joke. The fact that the fandom took it SO seriously when it was obviously meant to be absurd and ridiculous was just a part of what made it funnier. It was obviously meant to be played for laughs more than anything else.
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>>81812673
even though i think her art is fucking atrocious it's what made her popular and got her her career. i'm not surprised she stagnated.
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>>81812550

Wait what? He had a Casino?
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>>81812616
Karkat got fladerized and he realized he didn't know what to do with the character that wouldn't overshadow the Kids and Vriska's stuff
he hates (Vriska) because he realized that through all the character development she was going through that it stopped being the Vriska she loved, you know the one that couldn't do any wrong
and for some reason Vriska was a totally nice person during the meteor despite having no reason to be
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>>81812420
Act 6 from start to finish was the worst thing to happen to the comic. Act 5 had so much energy to it by the end, he could have used that to really power through a final act without the need to introduce any new characters, minus the cherubs.
Instead the story came to a screeching halt in order to introduce new characters and start their story and development from the beginning. Since we already knew how the game worked, the focus was entirely devoted to their lives and relationships, which just. Absolutely. Dragged.
The initial part of the story (Acts 1-5) were good because the story was intermixed with the character's development; we learned along with the characters how the universe worked and how much more went into its workings than meets the eye.
Act 6 was all relationship shit and characters getting developed in weird, unsatisfying, and, worst of all, boring ways.
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>>81812673
it's literally style over substance.
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What kind of name is Shelby, anyway? Is it short for Shelbert?
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>>81812699
How could you forget the casino, man? The Felt knocked it over somewhen in the futurepast.
It was the entire point of the intermission!
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>>81812478

Nepeta

[Spoiler] She did nothing wrong
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>>81812654
I've been rooting for him since the beginning. Since his "defeat" was so etched in stone, I was pulling for him to overcome the odds and actually kill everyone. Maybe that didn't happen, but he came damn close.
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>that Anon who pointed out that Blood is Suffering
>he brings eternal suffering to trollkind
>Karkat turning into Condy 2.0
>Adult Karkat becoming the final boss of Hiveswap

MAKE IT FUCKING HAPPEN
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>>81812478
The felt only looked knocked out to me.
And we know Crowbar and Clover aren't dead.
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Who /ww2stuck/ here?
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>>81812639
The same dream bubbles Caliborn was hate fucking?

I can't remember the quote, but I remember Meenah getting pretty sick and tired of the dream bubble shit. Saw it as pointless. Especially considering how much wasted potential that was. Like literally, Terezi couldn't have mastered her powers with the help of the THOUSANDS of dead Seers/Terezi?

No? She had to have everyone she loved and cared get murdered and herself beaten up to figure it out?

Fuck I'm still mad.
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>>81812420

Wow... her old art looks much better, what the fuck happened.
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Man I read this a while ago and stopped but reading these threads is making me so sad.

I'm sorry you all had to have it end like this friends, there will be something else I'm sure of it.
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>>81812714

Oh yeah and I thought the whole point was that The Felt and Midnight Crew were some rival gang that didnt like eachother. I really need to reread homestuck again.
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>>81812478
eri did nothin wwrong
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>>81812651
>>81812649
Alright, thanks. I'll hold out hope for solara until the epilogue.
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>Act 7
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>>81812674

Did you forget that pre-retcon Rose didn't stay dead? If there was any character development to be had for her there was nothing to prevent her from still having it. But there was none. Her changes were entirely pointless, she just became an alcoholic for no fucking reason and lost her sharp wit, and then once she was a sprite and not drunk anymore she was pretty much identical to the other Rose except with added Davesprite issues.
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Oh god dammit Hussie screw up the ending, time to scrap the whole thing and start again.
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>>81812756
>reading all the updates leading up to the gigapause just left me wanting more Homestuck and character interaction
>instead we got this
At least I got to spend more time with you guys.
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JUST A FEW MINUTES NOW
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>>81812790
what the fuck
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UPDATE ANY SECOND NOW
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>>81812753
Tumblr hugboxing
Steven Universe

I don't dislike SU's art style, but seeing so many artists appropriate right off the bat is fucking disgusting.
Play around with styles, create your own shit. Just don't ape the most current "popular" cartoon.
Even my drawings aren't that derivative and I've aped the shit out of Homestuck's style.
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>>81812796
Getting fused into a cat (i.e. becoming a different character entirely) kinda interfered with any possible development.
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>>81812478

The Midnight Crew, especially Diamonds Droog and Spaces Slick.

Also AR. I was hoping we'd see more from the White Queen... But then again I'm glad WV and PM made it.


Condy... Oh my lovely troll fish queen, I'll miss her and her huge hair.
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>>81812753
steven universe happened
so many artists switched to that boring simplistic su-esque style so they can get more Notes and Reblogs

>>81812756
i hope so
the dust is still settling for me and im only disoriented now so theres that
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IT'S HAPPENING
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THIS IS NOT A DRILL
CHECK THE FUCKING PAGE FAGGOTS
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>>81812420
Every time.
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OH BOY 3 AM
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>>81812828
Did you draw that? That's great.
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>>81812420

I think the most annoying part was having five billion fucking characters. It would be amost impossible to have a satisfying character arc for any of them and the "plot" was always just weird random bullshit. I mean it was fine for being entertaining but people got so deep into the LORE and there was really almost zero there.

So that leaves you with the characters but when you have so fucking many how can you give a shit? Not only that, but a fuckton of multiple versions of each characters, people dying left and right but then coming right back or another version of them shows up. It's just hard to give a shit.
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>tfw genuinely like the Midnight Crew song/old vaudeville
>try to listen to vinyl playbacks on youtube
>comments full of inane homestuck shits making asses out of themselves
why can't homestuck fans show a little fucking decorum
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>>81812838
>>81812841
I hate you.
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Sorry I'm late.
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>>81812595
>>leadup before the final fights is all the characters realizing "winning the game" isn't going to solve their problems
many of the characters were already done with their character arcs long before
Rose and Kanaya were happily in love and Kanaya got her orb or something
John was a real man now and he and Roxy were gonna date or something
Dave and Dirk patched any awkwardness up
Jane and Jake? who are they?
Jade finished her arc since Cascade
Terezi got better because any of her problems were erased during the retcon because Vriska helped her get over them or something
Davesprite and Autoresponder got over their inadequacies when they were fused with a cat and a muscle guy
Karkat got over his problems when he started fucking Dave
and Vriska is Vriska, she has no problems you're thinking of (Vriska) and she's irrelevant

Most of the characters got through their arcs through the timeskip or a power up
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>>81812841
>>81812838
>I fell for it

I'm so disappointed in myself.
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>>81812841
>>81812838
FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!
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THE MOST EXCITING TIME OF DAY HAS FEFERIALLY COME
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>>81812828
If that's your art, I love it dude

draw us a better ending pls
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Good morning /hst/, here to offer a friendly reminder that Vriska has achieved immortality on-par with LE's.
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I think Shinji said it best when he said "Hey, there is still some things unresolved here guys."
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>>81812529
I just put it in my web browser, and it brought up the option to open it in skype instead. your mileage may vary.
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My criteria for dropping Homestuck way back during the wait for Cascade was Terezi, Karkat, and WV being dead. All three of them made it to the end, even if Kark and Terezi got a boatload of retarded characterization and didn't reach their potential. Also Terezi wasn't shown in the new universe so for all we know she walked off the frog platform and died. But hey, I guess I can be somewhat happy with this.
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>>81812854
Oh man it's just like the good old days.

__________:^(__________
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Why did it go back to ==> in the end? What happened to the other four?
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>>81812893
It's stuck on JUST so she dies everytime.
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>>81812842
Are we doomed to a generation of Fucking Hacks and one trick ponies?
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>>81812654

Technically he did I suppose? I kinda like to view it as a similar ''victory'' that Porky achieved in the end of Mother 3. Porky technically was kinda immortal with his time travel nonsense but it made him age quickly and had to be part of some artificial spider machine that sustained his life but in the end he put himself in the ''Absolutely Safe Capsule'' before the 4 heroes can truly defeat him. The capsule of course lives up to his name as being immune to anything making Porky completely protected and safe from harm however once inside he could never get out so he was pretty much completely trapped forever inside. In the end Porky may have actually got what he wanted just like Dr Andonut said in the end.
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the homestuck rereader's club
they use an update simulator to release old updates at appropriate intervals, then discuss the updates as though they don't know what happens next
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>>81812905
What happened to anyone, who know. The ending was more or a stopping point than a conclusion.
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>>81812893
No. Her clock is stuck on Just. If she ever dies it will be Just.
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>>81812885
>tfw yelling UPDATE in a thread will never work again

just fucking kill me anons
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>>81812861
We've missed you.
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>>81812919
That sounds absolutely pathetic.

Where do I join.
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>>81812901
>Also Terezi wasn't shown in the new universe so for all we know she walked off the frog platform and died. But hey, I guess I can be somewhat happy with this.
Maybe Hussie was originally planning for her to be dead when he storyboarded the animation
but forgot to change later parts and only remembered to change it when they were on the platform, the art there was lesser than the rest
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>>81812914
yes, if not longer than an generation
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>>81812420
Why Aradia got a puckered bootyhole for lips?
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>>81812919
is this a thing

i'm pathetic enough i'd do it
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>>81812970
The term you're looking for is "rosebudding"
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Debu Sutoraida
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>>81812932
>>81812911
Her clock was ticking over to Just when she died before. This time it wasn't ticking at all, and when the crowbar connects with the clock, it's broken.

She gets to live forever with Aradia and all the rest. And they're all completely forgotten together.
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>>81812974
Dont do it Anon, you're finally free. Go do something with your life
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>>81812970
too much time rimmin
not enough time swwimmin
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>>81812727
>Karkat became turbo hitler, because Dave ditched him

AYYYY
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>>81812911
>>81812932
>tfw you sleep and your theory experiences further theorycrafting
How do we figure that, do we ever see the clock post-retcon?
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>>81812954
That's what I'm thinking. Honestly, the "storyboarded 4 years ago" bit pisses me off. He built the exact ending years ago and had to shuffle everything else around to fit it, because he wanted to spend 4 years making sure his scenery porn looked good.
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BEST SONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7SMRSvnv8
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Six-Day War when
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I'm trying to cope with slick's death
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>>81813008
Slick broke the clock in the pre-retcon timeline, there's nothing to stop him breaking it post retcon.
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>>81812990
Gesundheit
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Goddamit man, I just want more pesterlogs of the kids shooting the shit with each other
>>81813030
And this too
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>>81813015
>Four years for Hussie to blow his load with a tadpole sperm down the skaia cervix

Fucking pottery
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i miss kids & fun
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>>81813030
I gotta try to cope with Aradia's _____
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>>81812478

Caliborn, he did nothing wrong
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>>81813032
But there's no reason for it to have broken on Just, considering the clock was inactive, due to a severe lack of stabbings to motivate it.
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>>81813058
Scalding hot vagina
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>>81812919
>>81812953
>>81812974

honestly HSG should do a reread according to the comic's original update structure

if we were to start today we'd just have to read up til 14/4

and obviously we'd shorten or skip hiatuses because fuck that
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>>81813059
He's not dead anon.

Literally Act 7 was his MASTERPIECE. He's making HAWT smut in his empty universe for eternity.
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>>81813015
the Universe being made and dead Calliope doing their thing good

he should have put away Caliborn's origins a long time ago, there is no reason for it to have been showed at the ending

alright to keep the platform

and he should have saved showing what the world was actually gonna look like for the epilogue
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So I only started reading Homestuck about a month ago and now ive finished it. Why was there such a big change in tone and story? I actually really liked the whole game format.
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Want to know what was the best? Playing huge Epicmafia and Cards Against games with hsg during the early hiatuses.
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>>81813059
Caliborn isn't dead.
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>>81813091
Sure he is, anon. Sure he is.

;_;
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>>81813109
ONE MORE

TWO MORE

ONE MORE
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>>81813105
Because it took 7 fucking years, a person changes a lot in that time. He got a girlfriend, his dad died, shit happened man.
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I'm not going to sleep or eat until the epilogue is out.
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>>81813122
The best.
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>>81813105
Anon, you don't comprehend what's going on.

SEVEN YEARS
E
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Y
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A
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I was still picking my nose and being a sperg on Runescape forums in that time. The Huss has changed, and so has the comic.
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>>81813131
It's funny but one piece doesn't feel all that different from the early days, but I think oda is a robot that lives and breaths nothing but one piece.
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>>81813105
Hussie grew up
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>>81813147
try to get on the news, the press will force him to act
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>>81812478
Tie for Nepeta and AR for me.

Nepeta was sweet and cute.

AR was a fucking good person. On the meteor he rode to Earth on he sent John off of it on the one jetboard in order to save him, because he was a civilian. There's nothing to indicate AR expected to survive riding the meteor. He basically (thought he) sacrificed himself to save someone he didn't even know, and he was okay with that.

I just remember that impressing me a lot way back when I was first reading this, because I wasn't expecting something like that from such a silly little character.
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>>81813105
He saw the allure of tumblr shekels, and had to introduce increasingly more diverse alien sexualities and teenage-grimdarkness to keep the landwhales buying merch.
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>>81813163
The art style really changed.
Anyone have that comparison of Nami at her introduction, and her in the most recent episode?
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>>81813163
It could just be a cultural thing
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>tfw no sun in your skies
>tfw no world left for you
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Reminder if you donated to the kickstarter you are partially responsible for homestuck going to shit
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>>81813197
Japanese creators have work ethic

Unless they're Titty Kubo or Togashi
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>>81812737

Seriously wtf happened to Crowbar? He just I dunno completely vanished.
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>>81813177
>young anon found dead in his home from starvation and sleep deprivation. his lat words being "hussie is a hack"
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>>81813211
C H E C K
Y O U R
E M A I L S
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>>81813195
You're right, but considering the timeframe he has stayed surprisingly consistent.

>>81813197
Perhaps. Also it could have been starting age. How old was the huss when he started home stuck?
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>>81813197
I That might be true, just like at Berserk. One guy draw in his basement and the story still feels about the same and that among 30 years old.
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>>81812737
>Crowbar and Clover aren't dead
We don't know if they made it to the new universe.
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>>81812790

Source?
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>>81813163
the art style changed, but not drastically
but after the Time skip the characters felt a little different
like the characters don't feel like they play off each other as well as they use to
then again he wasn't writing the crew for 2 years
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>tfw no Wachowski-directed animated feature film

I know it sounds ridiculous but for some reason I thought that maybe, just maybe, he would announce something like this on the day of the final update.
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Post happy times.
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Would you guys agree with this?

http://imgur.com/a/9ucF7
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>>81813227
Same thing that happened to Ms. Paint, Slick, Terezi and the rest
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>>81813233
Hussie was 18 for gods sakes, no wonder it changed.
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>>81813057
Why do they bother to wear clothes? You'd think they'd just be naked all the time since you don't really need any sense of decency or prudishness when you're the creators of the universe.
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>>81813290
Dude Hussie is like 50 now
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>>81813290
Holy shit seriously? He was 18 when he started homofuck?
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Stylishly describe yourself when you started reading the comic

Stylishly describe yourself now.
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>>81813197
You obviously never saw Initial D. Shit ran from 1998 to like 2014 and every character changed so much over that time span.
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>>81813262
>compared to how a ration adult would behave...

>dumb cunts in charge of irony
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>>81813290
No, he was 29.
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>>81813297
hes 25 anon
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>>81813299
Hell no, he's thirty something.
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>>81813274
I think it's unfair to try and nail HS to the wall with standard literary structure, but at the same time, it failed to live up to its own structure that it has practised for years, which did include a lot of those rules, e.g. unspoken plan rule.
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>>81813211

Back in 2012 I still believed in the Huss. Homestuck was good! I didn't know how wrong things could possibly go. None of us did.

forgive me, for I have sinned, and I will sin again by reading Homestuck 2.0. It will be my penance
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>>81813317
try 36 mate
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WHAT'S THE FUCKING PURPOSE OF THIS CHARACTER

WHY DIDN'T HE DIE IN ACT 5
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>>81813299
Hussie is fucking dead, Anon.
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>>81813262
The head of WP at the time, everyone.
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>>81813317
He's 36. Born 1979.
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Do any archives of 2010-2012 era HSG exist?

It feels so far away anons, i just want to go back ;_;7
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>>81813333
Oh OK that makes much more sense. But seriously I haven't even read it in like 6 years and this is still making me sad.
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>>81813300
Start: Obese lonely teen
End: Skinny fat depressed adult
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>>81813356
yes
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>>81813361
>Skinny fat
wat
You're either skinny or fat. You can't be both.
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>>81813348
>the balls on this bitch

fuckin kek
>>
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005258

>TC: and now i'm the last one, so i finally motherfuckin understand.
>TC: I FINALLY GOT MY MOTHERFUCKING UNDERSTAND ON TO WHO THE MIRTHFUL MESSIAHS ARE.
>TC: they were always both me. :o)
>TC: AND ALSO MOTHERFUCKING ME. Do:

What did he mean by this?
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>>81813340
I don't know man 2012/2013 had some pretty obvious shit going on.

I also blame Octopimp for his kickstarter he did earlier than the hs one.
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The next time my friends and I trip acid I'm gonna show them Act 7, definitely acid trip material, they won't know the story but fuck that was breathtaking
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>>81813262
I hate her but the context was she was going crazy from hatemail and interactions with hsg.
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>>81812478
Eridan.

He was fugged because he was sort of an idiot and didn't know how to harness his starting area correctly.
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>>81813386
He's part of both Doc Scratch and Lord English
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>>81813300
Then: Happy Teen
Now: Depressed Adult
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>>81813057
Back when the kids were white. When did Hussie start shilling multicuturalism like a hack?
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>>81813308
Anime are made by multiple people
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>We are slowly building to a particular moment I foresee on the horizon. It's not just characterized by the end of the story, though that should be a factor. It's more than that. Things I have planned, and some other things we'll say may be fortuitously aligned. Invisible pieces of a heinous machine all snapping together, mechanically congealing with a grim sense of purpose. I'm tentatively branding to this moment as The Rapture, and it will be more than you can bear. More than anyone can. And everyone won't.

What did he mean by this?
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>>81813356
you feel it too, don't you
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>>81813370
SOMEONE START A KICKSTARTER FOR THIS SHIT
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>>81813381
It's when you're skinny but still have all the fitness and health of a fat person
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>>81813348
Shit I've been out of the loop. What does Halfcunt do now? Does she still write Paradox Space comics?
Who's the head of WP now?
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>>81813427
When Hussie was attacked by tumblr when he made trickster Jane white.
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>>81813427
When tumblrs' mommy and daddy money started paying his rent. I used to imagine the huss as a fucking alpha who gave no shits, but when he buckled to tumblr whining about the caucasian joke I realized how much sway they had over him.
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>>81813432
He was describing HiveSwap.
>>
Worst Beta Human:
Jade, Post-Retcon Rose

Worst Alpha Human:
Jane

Worst Patron Trolls:
Karkat, Vriska

Worst Pre-Retcon characters:
Karkat, Vriska

Legit cucks:
Pre--retcon Karkat, Pre-retcon Vriska

I am glad that this shitpost list is actually valid.
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>>81813348
I don't understand this image.
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>>81813432

Hussie will descend from the heavens on the back of a musclebeast and purge everyone who was disappointed by the ending. This exterminates the entire human race.
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>>81813427
it's not necessarily bad but tumblr loves to take shit to ungastley conclusions
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>>81813465
>>81813467

CAUCASIANmind
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>>81813300
Then: chubby 14 year old that vaguely resembled a jelly bean, had friends and a life
Now: chubby 19 year old thats a recluse, no friends no job no money
Homestuck ruined my life
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RISE WITH THE MOON, GO TO BED WITH THE SUN
EARLY TO BED AND YOU`LL MISS ALL THE FUN
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>>81813356
I used to save every thread I was awake for for about six months. I deleted all of it during one of the pauses. I didnt save the full sized images but it was something.
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>>81813340
I'm new to /co/ and this >muh 2012 HS thing, I started reading in 2013 and never noticed a distinct tone change in particular, tell me what went wrong exactly?
>>
HSG HSG HSG okay stay with me

Was it worth it having a shit ending to scorn the people who took old Homestuck away from you

Or would you have rather that the
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>>81813370
fuck anon i'd kill a man for that book

but seriously there's nothing online, is there? The archives got fucked in the ass iirc
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>>81813491
>Jade
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>>81813491
What the fuck is that
Why does Jade have a beard
what
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>>81813491
Is majing Jade look like a man a meme?
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>>81813491
>just see Dirk, Jane and Jake at first
>Ok that isn't so bad for tumblr
>Roxy and Rose
>uh well
>FUCKING JADE

I'm amazed Dave came out relatively untouched.
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>>81813487
Rachel publicly wants a Myst charm made by someone on etsy.

Rachel publicly shits on someone who made HS stuff on etsy, despite them sending her a terful apology letter.

Irony.
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>>81813467
The main reason he never gave a shit before was because tso was small and no one gave a damn, but once Homestuck got popular then he had to avoid too much negative controversy lest it ruin his reputation; and apparently his storyboarded ending he would release in 4 years time). It's like a small YouTube channel versus a large production show on a network.
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>>81813491
holy shit everyone in this is so god damn hideous

>tranny jade
time to kill myself
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>>81813491
Ok but why is literally every other kid clean shaven. If you're gonna do it then
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>>81813522
I want to slap whatever adult in the early 2000s said to be careful what you put online, because it will be there forever. It's the falsest statement I've ever heard.
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>>81813547
>>81813552
Trans headcanon or because she's got dog dna which means she should be hairier.
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>>81813359
I stopped reading after Game Over or thereabouts. I just went ahead and watched Act 7 and I get the impression reading what I missed won't clear anything up.

I used to be so crazy about Homestuck. I had the first five acts practically memorized. I'm saddened by how little I care now.
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>>81813491
w-whats up with jade
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>>81813526
oh man anon lemme tell ya
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>>81813526
>>81813547
>>81813552
>>81813559
>>81813571
>>81813577

YOU FUCKERS PROBABLY THOUGHT THIS IMAGE WAS AN EXAGGERATION, DIDN'T YOU?
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>>81813567
FEED ME MORE TROLLS!
>>
Man for a character driven story, that ending lacked a whole lot of character points.
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>>81813567
sell to government.
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>>81813491
>>
OFFICIAL BREEDING TIER LIST

REPOPULATION TIER:
Jade

ISLAMIC FAMILY TIER:
Aradia
Feferi
Jane

WHOLESOME AMERICAN FAMILY TIER:
Roxy
Terezi
Nepeta

MISCARRIAGE TIER:
Rose
Vriska

BARREN LIKE THE ALPHA SESSION TIER:
Kanaya
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>>81813567
Trade her to Hussie for an actual ending, he can't say no to his waifu.
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>>81813494
>>81813465
I think it was before that. When Homestuck was getting popular in Tumblr (deviantart was dead and MSPAForums users didn't buy enough merch).
The Huss knew he had to cash in on that. Hence the nigger stickers on the kickstarter.
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>>81813491
oh god that Jade I'm in stitches
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>>81813491
>Jade

I wish I still had my HS reaction images
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>>81813460
who cares
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>>81813467
Don't have hard feelings anon, it was a career move, definitely not worth a stupid joke.
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>>81813602
i honestly did. i guess i feel pretty damn stupid now
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>>81813491
>look at Jade
>Make the exact same fucking face

it's unavoidable oh god
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>>81813491
So, trans people want to be the other sex, right? And they do that by adopting stereotypical gender roles of the opposite sex. So why does dudeJade have a beard? Why go 90% of the way there and then not shave your man beard? Also how can you be a feminist fighting for womens rights, and defend trans*women who believe that being a woman means wearing dresses and lipstick? Tumblr is confusing.
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>>81813567
close the door an wwalk back inside
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>>81813386
It means that Karkat had ALL the TIME in the world to actually talk to his friends, (Gamzee, and Eridan) and make sure they don't become fucking psychopathic murderers.

Like, literally. Give Eridan some love/attention.

Make sure Gamzee is ALWAYS HIGH.

I can't believe I just remembered the power of Memos, and how I just glossed over them being filler shit.

What the fuck Huss.
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>>81813560
Oh i didnt get it because of the different avatars. Didn't look at the username. Thanks for clearing that up anon.
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>>81813622
Savage words man
>>81813567
sell my neighbors for a proper upbringing
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>>81813663
I know of a trans girl who is balding and has a beard and just puts lipstick on, I don't understand any of this or how it's supposed to work
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>>81813663
People are all different and have different ideas about things, including their own identity and forms of expression.
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>>81813491
>Ask HumanStuck.png
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Will he turn into Hitler 2.0?
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>>81813663
I suspect many of them have mental illness. Not saying that in a mean way.
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>>81813663
im not sure if theyre depicting trans here
i think its just le woman with hormonal balance problems or hairy dog dna, no idea desu
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>>81813491

Wtf is this abomination!?
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>>81813622
>Jane not being barren tier
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>>81813699
Who cares, Karkat doesn't matter anymore
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>>81813491
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>>81813602
Nope, I used to check the Dave Strider tag on tumblr every now and then and goddamn did I see that exact design over and over. Do these people not understand that Dave being a white boy is the fucking joke?
>>
Life is the shittiest aspect
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>>81813622
Would fuck tier:
(Vriska)
Meenah
Kanaya

Wife 4 life tier:
Terezi
Roxy

Sweet, precious daughteru tier:
Nepeta
Jane
Calliope
Rose

Into the Trash:
The rest
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>>81813663
The whole thing's a bit more complicated than that, and you're assuming these people are a unified front when they are not.
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>>81813725
you will not be missed.
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>>81813630
You say that like Homestuck was a side hobby and not his full-time job
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>>81813602

>Cresent symbol automatically means they are Muslim

Its just like OoT
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>>81813733
This.
How the fuck can someone see his hair that way?
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>>81813370
WHOA HEY
WHERE CAN I PICK UP A COPY OF THIS
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>>81813663
generally a person who is trans would want to be called their identifying gender

a trans woman w a beard or a transman w his tits out isnt going to help them get called the gender they say they are and i dont understand these tumblrinas that expect everyone to automatically know their prnouns when they do shit like that
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>>81813512
>every thread for six months
>deleted it all

anon how could you do this to me

>>81813584
God, me too anon. I did some stupid shit but it was so much fun.
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>>81813737
>Aradia
>In the trash
;_;
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>>81813491
Why are the Lalondes hook nosed Arabs? Why are the Egberts stereotypically black? Why is "Jade" laughing like Tom Cruise?
Why?
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>>81813622
>>81813737
I bet Terezi would try to name her kids the same things she names her scalemates
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>>81813567
Use her to bribe Hussie to write a real ending that caters to what I want to happen.
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Why does she deserve to suffer

she is not even karkuck

it's not fucking fair
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>>81813491
>all those frosted tips and shotgun noses
>all those piercings
>face tat on roxy
>hon jade

just needs a little vitiligo and a cripple to round it out
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>>81813796
brown lalondes have been a thing in the fandom for years.
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>>81813787

Fuck, I knew I was forgetting someone in daughteru tier.

Just like Hussie forgot her.
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>>81813784
They don't.

They want you to get it wrong so they can correct you.
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>>81813796
Tumblr despises white people
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>>81813300
Then: almost done with college. Feeling positive.
Now: no job prospects, dead end job, unmotivated anymore
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>>81813622
Fuck:
Act 7 Vriska
Condy
Mom!Roxy
Kanaya
Latula's legs

Marry:
Aradia
Roxy
Aranea

Kill:
The rest + the entire WP staff
>>
wheres the best place for homesmut
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>>81813796
>Why is "Jade" laughing like Tom Cruise?
mfw
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>>81813806
Because Vriska is a mary sue, and (Vriska) resembles an actual character with a story arc, which is a bad thing.

And now she's dead.

Remember kids, being an asshole to everyone you know is all that matters and things like karma or justice don't exist.
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>>81813825
couldn't roxy stuff her bra

fuck why am i taking this seriously
>>
>>81813491
Look at that fucking orgasm face on Jane.
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>>81813755
Well it was, and from his position, the tumblr fandom was the only one that could keep him from starving.
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>>81813522
I think there were some tumblr pages, but I'm not sure of their status.
Tumblr crashes my phone's browser, but try Shit That HSG Says. Although that'll all be post 2012 hsg.
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>>81813837
Characters who keep getting away with it?
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>>81813815
He didn't forget her, she showed up in the flash. For 5 seconds. For no reason. He just doesn't care about her.
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>>81813613
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>>81813855
Does he care about any character?
Pretty much no character has their arc finished in a satisfying manner.
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>>81813869
This is a pretty good critique. I like it.
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>>81813837
>Remember kids, being an asshole to everyone you know is all that matters and things like karma or justice don't exist.
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>>81813854
But he stopped being angry (which made him lose I guess) so now you're supposed to feel bad for him.

Not that it matters, of course, since he's probably dead too.
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>>81813872
PM and WV?
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>>81813872
For all Spade Slick knew, he died choking out Lord English with his own staff. That's basically a victory.
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>>81813762
OoT's also had a star, but it wasn't exactly the same. I think it was intentionally based on it, being the symbol of desert people and all.

But this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkmeU2ilbJg was probably unintentional, as they probably just sampled some chanting from somewhere.
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>>81813908
WV stopped being a character years ago. I mean, what he had was better than most, so I guess
>>
>>81813901
I like this one too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/homestuck/comments/4eor30/response_to_act_7/
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>>81813370
I will wwalk my ass into your dick for that. Where can I get this?
I know /p/ had a website for the photo books that had than printed by demand.
>>
>>81813516

2012 was when the comic went from a pretty big peak to a valley. In July we had Synchronize/Unite and Caliborn: Enter, which were hype as hell and basically everyone loved. Right after that, in August/September, the Kickstarter launched and we got the Meenah walkarounds. They were basically unnecessary and took fucking forever to make so the pacing slowed to a crawl for content that was received lukewarmly at best. Then after that, the beta kid shipping "drama" that was basically just jokes until that point becamse Real Drama, then we got tricksters and more feelings talk, and by then we're in 2013 and the comic is almost entirely an infodump with little actual events until Aranea blows everything up and the comic goes on hiatus for a year.

Not sure where exactly you came in, but the last few months of 2012 are the lowest point for the comic, and people got super jaded. The drama stuff and the trickster stuff is a major tone change, but isn't that bad on a reread because it's a fairly small blip. Reading it serially was fucking torture though. People like to exaggerate but the Kickstarter launch is definitely the start of a decline in quality.
>>
>>81813663
Cognitive dissonace is strong on tumblr. Watcting the far left eat itself over their stupid shit is fun like when that trans MMA fighter beat the shit out of everyone the had a lot of infighting.
>>
>>81813491
How is it not racist to draw Jane with huge nigra lips like that?
>>
>The serendipity gospels will never be finished

fug
>>
>>81813974
Racism on Tumblr is weird and topsy-turvy. If you don't draw a black person with their GLORIOUS NEGRO TRAITS (IE curly hair/dreads/an afro, big lips, etc.) it's racist.
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>>81813981
>And It Don't Stop actually stopped
>>
...SOMEHOW, Hussie managed to craft a ending that was VERY unsatisfying and anticlimatic.

It provided closure in only the vaguest sense of the word, and left a SHITTON of unresolved chacter arcs, plot points and resolutions.

It's like he realized "oh shit i gotta end homestuck this year lmao", quickly came up with a half-assed ending, and outsourced all the art for getting it done as fast as possible.

oh wait that's probably exactly what he did.

SOMEHOW, he managed to come up with a ending that doesn't satisfy ANYONE. Not the shippers, not the plotfags, not the sj crowd, not tumblr, not thinly veiled /hsg/, nobody.

GOOD FUCKING JOB HUSSIE.

yes, i'm mad. i've been following hussie since problem sleuth, and i feel that he ended up giving promises he couldnt keep.
>>
>want the green skeletons to hold hands and be friends
>wanted WV/PM for literally ages
>wanted davekat to sink

Two out of three ain't bad.
>>
>>81814008
Even a bad end would be preferable at this point
Anything for some fucking closure
>>
>>81813981
>>81814002
>Humanimals depict neither humans nor animals
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>>81813910
Oh
My
God. I forgot about that, I had like the 3rd or 4th command in that comic. What is life?
changing the subject, is the selfie the most recent pic we have of Hussie?
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>>81814008
The lack of anything hussie made it feel like I was watching a fan made amv.
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6 years later and it's still true
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>>81813522
How far back do the new archives go?
>>
I know one of you has got to have Hussie's tweets archived, there's no way they're all just gone forever
>>
>>81814030
to be honest i dropped hs around act 6 act 3 and came back only after i heard it was ending, so i had literslly no investment whatsoever
>>
Anyone have a list of all the shit unanswered/doesn't make sense? There's a lot of things that seem fucky.
>>
>>81814054
I have a select few archived in my head.
Mainly the "who cares" one.
>>
Are there any current webcomics with fan input, like how PS was?
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>>81814054
You're just gonna have to pick up individual tweets people have saved
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>>81814053
About 2013, I think.
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>>81814080
>same
god damn hussie
>>
>>81814008
It just came and went. The best that people had to say about it was
>It was really pretty
>Homestuck anime meme
No one really understood what the fuck happened. It was just 9 minutes.
>>
>>81814063
I cared a little less for it than I would have hoped, but seeing it end in such a way leaves me feeling empty and sad
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>>81814002
COULD HE BE ANY MORE OF A HACK?
>>
Hussie made the ending bad on purpose because Homestuck was always just his own personal joke
>>
>>81814079
I think prequel is still doing that(?)
Is prequel even going on anymore? What about waterworld?
>>
>>81814088
Nice. My cringe and borderline pedophilia are gone forever. Fuck everyone.
>>
>>81813869
As someone who was not really that butthurt about the ending, this helps explain a lot of the butthurt to me, but saying there are rules to storytelling is a load of crap. No, there are guidelines for successful storytelling. And I get that telling Hussie is wrong is a sort of validation for your hurt expectations, but art is expression, there is no way to be wrong in your own expression. You can only say "Homestuck wasn't as good as I wanted it to be, here's why." And then you can try to write your own, better webcomic.
>Storytelling rules are not that subjective
But they are subjective :)
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>>81814068
>>81813936 has some, i'm reading it now
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>>81814099
on himself, maybe
he wasted more on it than we did
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>>81814080
>same
oh u cheeky cunt
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>>81814107
Fuck off Hellstrider.
>>
I want to bully the shit out of Karkat and (Vriska)!
>>
>>81814107
It's a fucking tragedy is what it is.
>>
>>81813567
I would protect and raise her so hard.

She would work well as my daughter.
>>
>>81814107
Just kill yourself already, you subhuman faggot.
>>
>>81813737
pretty good taste, but

meenah --> trash
rose --> would fuck tier
aradia --> spd tier, or wife 4 life tier
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>>81814080
>Same

Top fucking kek
>>
>>81813567
fuck it
>>
>>81813491

This triggers my autism D:
>>
>>81814068
Literally everything other than "do the beta kids survive this shit or what"
L i t e r a l l y
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>>81814150
>you will NEVER snuggle with Vriska-chan
>you will NEVER be a giant spider

It h8rts.
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>>81812420
It was the trolls.

Everything went downhill steeply from the moment Hussie decided he absolutely had to introduce 12 one-dimensional color-coded copypaste jobs to an already-crowded four-protagonist story.
>b-but I've got all these super clever typing gimmicks I haven't used! I gotta do SOMETHING with 'em...
And then the smell of yaoi shippable DevArt OCs lured in the Tumblosphere and suddenly Hussie found himself obligated to churn out new, shallow, meaningless characters at an absurd rate to keep the 'tism bucks flowing, leaving no room for developing the rest of the cast. And so you get the ending you got, a stark contrast to Problem Sleuth, which never overburdened itself with the desires of genderspecial tweens and simply did whatever Hussie found the most amusing.

Rest in shit, Homestuck. You could have been something.
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>>81812470
>The only thing I really mourn is the character development for Rose.
Uh? Except that development was not loss. That Rose became JasproseSprite.
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>>81814169
goodnight 69 eri
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I've reached the stage where I've let go of the anger about the ending. I'm just happy to have been on the ride at all. This must be what the fucking buddha felt like when he trumped that giant green penis.
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I'm high and crying because of Dave ... baka..
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>>81814008
No one? I loved the ending, I'm probably the only one in this thread. The only difference I can say between me and you guys is I was never really that invested in the character arcs. That's it! I think that's the only problem with the ending, the character arcs. And man that shit was so convoluted I really wonder if taking the time to wrap EVERY single THING up in a reasonable timeframe, was even possible. Don't talk shit about how much effort he put into it, I know you're mad but that's straight up disrespectful.
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>>81814111
I almost feel like Hussie did it precisely because doing it the "right" way would have been to typical to him. Like, obviously he can write a fucking story. All the schmaltzy goodbye moments and happy times and wrappingup of lingering questions wasn't something he wanted to do, and knew people wouldn't be satisfied that his answers didn't match their expectations anyway. Or he did it for the irony. It's ironic he would build it up for 7 years and then just drop it like it's hot at the end.
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>>81814099
Seven years for a punch line is some Strider levels of irony.
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>>81814191
Personally I didn't mind the trolls. They added an aspect to the comic that was fun and added another meta level. I think it started going downhill when they introduced the second set of kids/trolls. That was unnecessary and almost none of them were enjoyable.
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>>81814212
>Don't talk shit about how much effort he put into it
He literally paid someone else to draw it for him, dude.
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Jesus Christ, what did it all matter?

The serpents imagery.

The little frog.

Sburb's existence in general.

Vriska and (Vriska).

All that character development, all of that nonsense, all of those signs and signifiers built up all for it to just shit the bed and give up.

RIP Homestuck.

You were supposed to be mythic.

But in the end, just like all the rest, you proved you were just a shitty webcomic.
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>>81813869
>>81813901
Some people say that it's just complaining that Homestuck isn't a traditional story, but in truth there's more to it than that. Homestuck is a subversive/deconstructive story, and that has often resulted in fantastic, ground-breaking stories, but there's a trick to it.

Basically, deconstructive storytelling is about seeing what conventions a story can do without, and what you can do instead. The trick is that you still have to tell a good, satisfying story with what's left. It's not enough to just use unconventional tropes; you have to make them ~work~. It's like baking; if you don't do the cooking by the book, you could make something more delicious and unique than any recipe, but you could just end up with an unappetizing mess.

Besides, Homestuck's ending isn't all that unique. Plenty of stories have cryptic and subtle endings that don't explain things outright, or cliffhanger endings that cut off before showing what happened. The thing that makes them work (and has made Homestuck work in the past) is that they give you enough information to deduce what happened, or at least give some sort of framework for your guesses. For example, Cascade didn't state outright what The Tumor did, but the visuals and previous exposition gave us enough info to figure it out. In the ending, though, there are weird magical things happening that were never seen before, never explained, and have implications that we can barely begin to guess. It's visual storytelling without the story, style without substance. And that's why it's unsatisfying.
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(Vriska)'s story should have ended with Doomed!John
when Vriska "came back" it was totally pointless because (Vriska) never left
why make a big deal for a character coming back if they never left right?
You know what happened when Vriska came back? all her character development down to learning humility was lost
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>>81814071
My favorite is
>Ruining anime cons for everyone was a lifetime goal I never thought I could hope to achieve, and yet here we are.
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>>81814237

8-Bit Theater did it first
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>>81814191
Problem Sleuth had a lot of characters in the spotlight too, but it worked because most of them weren't written past "You are the guy, you do the thing" and the plot was so simple; three guys try to get out of their offices and shenanigans ensue.
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>>81814281
Handled it way better, too.
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>>81814228
>All the schmaltzy goodbye moments and happy times and wrapping up of lingering questions wasn't something he wanted to do
This all happened in Act 6! When everyone met each other! Shit I thought it was obvious he was trying to conclude it all in the dialogue, before the conclusion. I mean give me one lingering question that you were JUST DYING to know the answer to that you didn't get.
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>>81814265
Vriska didn't even need to come back. (Vriska) could've just taken her role in the last fight against LE.
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I thought I saw pics of Huss doing art critique in some past thread. Anyone saved those? I wanna learn to draw like the (Hussie)
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>>81814111
despite what your friends want to tell you
there is an objective way to judge art
it's what critics do for a living, and seeing they are able to do it for a living
they just might be on to something
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>>81814302
Not that it REALLY matters in the end, considering Vriska just dies forever and that's the end of that.
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>>81814310
Kazerad, not huss
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>>81814111
See here:
>>81814259
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>>81814265
I want to learn what Choice his denizen gave him damnit.
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>>81814310
I wish I was on my desktop so I could post his tutorial on how to draw a gun.
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>>81814259
>It's like baking; if you don't do the cooking by the book, you could make something more delicious and unique than any recipe, but you could just end up with an unappetizing mess.
You might say that the cake could end up crazy
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>>81814291

That's because the joke was funny. But still, people didn't even realize it was the ending at first because the author didn't make it clear. Then people got mad. Hell, I was a little mad, too. It just felt like it ended out of nowhere. Then the author even did the thing where he went "oh lol that was the ending I didn't know people wanted more. I GUESS I'll make an epilogue!"

Homestuck is just 8BT 2.0. Bigger, flashier, and MORE.
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>>81814246
See I don't get this gripe, he wouldn't have done that good of an animation job in flash, not by a longshot. He doesn't have the time either, he's the head of a company, has to oversee the development of a game as a part time job, animation is the most time consuming job on the planet dude.

>>81814255
It never had any indication of being mythic. All of the myth to it was the cycle of universe creation, which was the main focus of Act 7. Hell it was practically a running theme that Homestuck is a load of fucking nonsense
>all those signs and signifiers
I read the same comic as you and I have no idea what youre referring to.
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>>81814344
Well you know you can't be lazy.
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>>81814369
but it's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake
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>>81814362
Yeah, that's my point exactly. Hussie did a bunch of other shit while Act 7 was being drawn. You were making it sound like he slaved over it night and day.
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>>81814302
Yeah but then how would have gotten Rose over her alcoholism
who would have stopped Gamzee and saved Terezi
Who would have helped Davesprite get over his sucidial tendencies by letting Davepeta happen.
Who would have fixed the sprites so we can have great characters like Davepeta, Jasperose. and Gcatavros!
Who would have stopped Lord English?

That's right only Vriska could have done all this!
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>>81814036
He's taken several beard pictures, and ipgd took beard pics of him too.
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>>81814359
>>>/lgbt/
back yo your fucking cancer chamber dude
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Who is the fairest maiden in the land and why is it Terezi?
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>>81814369
>Well you know you can't be lazy.
Too bad Hussie didn't.
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>>81814397
AND A SCALEMATE HANGING FROM A TREE
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>>81814311
Yeah, but what happens when the hugely successful art piece is shat on by a bunch of critics? Exactly nothing, it remains what it is, a piece of art that was shat on by critics. Art critique is used to judge a piece's ability to reach people, but if the piece is able to reach people anyway, the critique is just opinion.

>>81814327
I don't take Homestuck seriously enough to read any of that. Maybe that's why I enjoyed it more than you.
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>>81814414
>Who would have helped Davesprite get over his sucidial tendencies by letting Davepeta happen.
Kankri could have done it.
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Aside from all the forgotten loose ends, I think the most insulting thing about the ending is that it simply shows us what we knew would happen.

Green sun becomes black hole.
Bad guy dies I guess.
Other people die too I guess.
A bunch of people go to happy land and live happily ever after.
The End.

It seems like such an insulting ending to a massive tale seven years in the making. All that world building, all that backstory, all those hidden meanings, all of those convoluted solutions to try and hold everything together, and for what? This dinky little ending where we just get some pretty pictures of some people being happy? It feels wrong. It feels like a doomed timeline. It shouldn't end like this. Even despite the upcoming epilogue, this feels like a flat-out incorrect ending. It shouldn't exist.
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>>81814414
Hussie's really a hack who can't write characters overcoming their problems
HUSSIE YOU HACK
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>this roxy

dad's gonna adopt the fuck out of all of them
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IS THIS A LEGIT ENDING THEORY http://finalflan.tumblr.com/post/142733167155/we-already-know-what-happens-next
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>>81814414
Characters overcoming their struggles on their own or with the support of their actual friends and loved ones is too cliche and Homestuck is about D E C O N S T R U C T I N G cliches. So the retcon was important and needed and Vriska was the most important and needed thing.
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so does shelby work for SU now with her dyke gf?
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>>81814443
>I don't take Homestuck seriously enough to read any of that.
Yet you took it seriously enough to bash criticism. I'm guessing that has something to do with your proudly-displayed enjoyment.
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>>81813796

>Why is ''Jade'' laughing like Tom Cruise

I loled so hard I farted assburgers!
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>>81814290
You've hit the nail on the head. Problem Sleuth didn't have many narrative concerns because Problem Sleuth was winging it from the word go. It's over and we still don't know a ton about PS, AD and PI, but we don't need to, because their characters are simple and mostly serve to drive them through a nonsense world.

Homestuck began with a simple premise as well- "four kids play a game" - but right out the gate wanted to use characters with some modicum of depth, as evidenced by the page-long introductions. At some point that stopped being an objective for Hussie, and the introductions stopped being introductions rather than DevArt OC character summary "memes." What you see with characters like Vriska and Eridan is what you get, and when everyone in a 60-character cast has to share development time, nobody gets any. So we're left with John still feeling like he was on the verge of actually developing, Dave kind of half-developed, Rose the only one even vaguely close to being a full-fledged character and Jade barely being distinguishable from the dozens of trolls.
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>>81814450
>A bunch of people go to happy land and live happily ever after.
But we already know they don't. The Beta kids still get trapped in the Juju. We don't know what happens to both the Alphas after the masterpiece and the Betas after the battle against LE.
Nothing got resolved.
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>>81814348
>getting mad at 8-bit theater's top-tier ending

Did people actually do this?
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>>81814424
Is she 4ut1st1c?
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>>81814401
From what I gathered, he slaved over the direction of Act 7 night and day in 2015 while drawing Act 6, and then slaved over EOA6 in 2016. Either way him not drawing Act 7 himself doesn't make it half assed.
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>>81814450
>yfw u have to play hiveswap to get any god damn answers
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>>81813834

Nudestuck tumblr
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>>81814490
>We don't know what happens to both the Alphas after the masterpiece and the Betas after the battle against LE.
Didn't you watch Act 7? That was it. That was what happens to them.

Of course, we're not told or shown HOW that happens.
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>>81814469
>Homestuck is about D E C O N S T R U C T I N G cliches
It failed pretty hard at that.
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>>81812917
But Porky could never affect the world outside ever again, even as the world was destroyed by the Dark Dragon and rebuilt according to Lucas' and Claus' hearts that it received when they pulled the Needles. Or just Lucas'.
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>>81814472
And as soon as SU ends, it won't take long before the fandom dies out. Just like the GF fandom, and now, our Homestuck fandom. Nowadays, shit doesn't last dude, fuck.
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>>81814424
cause blind girl has a nice ass
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>>81814514
>That was what happens to them.
Uh
When do the Betas and Alphas confront Caliborn?
Before or after entering the new session?

God, this ending is a mess.
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>>81814464
>>81814464
fuck
FUCK
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>>81814464
Well, yeah. Everyone figured that out by reading the comic.
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>>81814359
>>81814076
>>81814411
I can't believe the janitors are up this late. I mean it's good they do their job, but damn.
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>>81814477
I just don't like being told something is objectively unlikeable, when that thing is something I liked very much. What reason do I have to probe further into HS's literary analysis? I'd do that for a novel or something that places more importance on its own plot points.
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>>81814490
THIS TOO. It's even more insulting that they give us this shitty bullshit happy ending because WE ALREADY KNOW ITS NOT GONNA LAST. Earth eventually becomes a husk. Beta kids get trapped in the Juju to be "used?" in the fight. Alphas just get stuck in Caliborn-land. It's an empty, unexplained, dull ending. It's a bad end, but Hussie didn't have the guts to give homestuck a "bad end". He just wanted to plaster a bunch of big happy smiles on the main characters faces so everyone thinks the ending is happy.
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>>81814556
noone is sure if the kids are fucked for sure though
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>>81814099
>millions in the hole
>90% of his fanbase dried up and scattered
>last couple of holdouts hate his guts
>still needs to get the game released
>probably on gear and doing shady shit to sustain an income

He knew the god damn tshirt well would run dry four years ago, but he just had to see how far he could push it. This is some straight up GG Alin shit if it wasn't just a monumental fuckup on his end.
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>>81814464
Basically. Difficult to say exactly how things fit together, but it makes sense if you're willing to deal with the concept that the juju both serves at teleporter and prison.
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>>81813910

Sauce?
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>>81814490
We don't know if the kids pop out of the juju or not during Act 7. If they do then they can just hop on over to whenever the Alpha kids are and resume what they were doing before they decided to jump Caliborn for no reason. Plus the platform-door flip is still ambiguous as to what it meant, especially with that creepy ass lightning coming off the doorknob with the ominous music.
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>>81814574
Yeah, what happens to the alpha kids after Caliborn's masterpiece and the beta kids after the LE fight is ambiguous and among the unanswered questions.

Also, it kind of would have been nice to see the LE fight, at least. Was it too difficult to portray properly?
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Help me out here hsg, I've been gone from anything to do with this comic for like three years but I came back for the ending, and I keep seeing mentions of some user named softowl, who the hell were they and why were people on the forums so mad at them.

I really just want to know so I can feed my need for useless drama
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>>81814546
Probably after because otherwise they might drag along the trolls?
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>>81814546
Like I said, we're not shown HOW it happens. I assume it's after entering the new session. When they get there John decides to just poof them to Caliborn. Then, after the beta kids are released by Vriska from the treasure and they defeat LE, John whisks them back to the new session.
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holy shit

I just realized

>Karkat starts the battle
>Vriska ends the battle

like pottery
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>>81814619
My kingdom for a fight with all four beta kids working together
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>>81814504
>It's a $15 dlc
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>>81814464
Nope. Hussie has consired making a epilogue. Meaning he at some point planned to just leave it like that, meaning that yes, epìlogue or not, this is the end of Homestuck.
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>>81814620
softowl was Hussie's girlfriend and people are mad at her because she probably had some influence on him and they don't want to blame Hussie for his own hackiness
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>>81813300
then: teen with few friends and normal physique in school
now: jobless, seriously hairy and skinny young adult
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>>81814464

It's not an ending theory, it's stuff that we already knew since the masterpiece and hoped would be explained in the ending, but wasn't. The only part that's a theory is that it happens immediately after the flash.
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>>81814642
>~ATH
>a coding language composed entirely of infinite loops
>the only way to break a loop is through death
>Paradox Space is made of infinite loops
>Calliope destroyed the Green Sun and broke Paradox Space
This would be a really profound bit of foreshadowing if we had any idea where to even begin guessing what the destruction of the Green Sun actually means for anything. Besides the First Guardians.
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How could Hussie think this is a good ending. I still can't understand. I just can't.
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>>81813381
Skinny pertains to muscle
Fat pertains to, well, fat
you dummy
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>>81814673
t-theres gonna be an epilogue
its going to finish everything
right?
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>>81814492

Yes, because the joke was hilarious but no one realized that it was an ending until the author said it was the ending.
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>>81814652
he might be a hack
but she'll be a vapid cunt forever
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>>81814544
BLIND GIRL HAS NICE ASS???
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>>81814673
I think he's just wanted it over with for a long time.
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>>81814701
???ASS NICE HAS GIRL BLIND
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>>81814701
Blind girls ass is nice
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>>81814673
if i was in his position, i'd be thinking "well there are a lot of things people want out of this ending, and making anything concrete will upset someone, so the best way to do it would be to have it open-ended"
what happened next? you decide
the problem is we've been deciding what happens next for the past four years and just want closure
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someone tell me what happened with this "Caucasian" thing i keep hearing about
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>>81814464
what?
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>>81814499
No, that's Nepeta.
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>reddit implying that Vriska and John shared the clock in Doc Scratch's house

Is there any evidence for this other than the fact that they look the same? So does Caliborn's clock. Is it not possible that every god tier has their own clock squirreled away somewhere?
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Would you play Hiveswap if Mad Cuck Tyrant Karkat is the final boss?
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>>81814673
w-well, i thought it was pretty good
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>>81814673
hussie over complicated this to no end, when he had to write an entire explanation for what happened in Cascade you'd think he'd learn his lesson to make things less complicated but sadly he didn't
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>>81814673
It's an ambiguous ending, where you can imagine for yourself what comes next for the heroes. That kind of thing could have really worked for Homestuck. The problem is that it's the wrong kind of ambiguous. If it was something like

>The kids made it to the new world! What will they do with it now?

or

>The troll race is being rebuilt! What will it end up being this time?

that would be one thing, but instead it's more along the lines of

>Wow, that looked really impressive! What the heck did it do?

and

>Look, they saw themselves living happy lives! Did that actually happen, or was it... something else?

That kind of ambiguous ending doesn't work because it doesn't give you a place to start guessing.
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>>81814673
It's not a good ending. He couldn't think up a good ending. He's burnt out and needs to get his shit together so he gave the basic plotline a nice plastic resolution to cash out of this shitshow. I hope the epilogue will actually tie some of the loose ends up when he bothers to shit one out but at this point I don't think anyone would really care.
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>>81814760

Man, it's too bad he didn't have four years from when he started planning the ending to now to lay groundwork for it and make sure everything fit neatly.
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>>81814673
It feels more like it was cancelled than ended.
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>Vriska and Meenah are good leaders
>Karkat is a joke and a failure
>the hemospectrum was right all aloong
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>>81814757
SHUT THE FUCK UP BUTTERS, YOU DON'T KNOW A GOD DAMN THING.
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>>81814786
truly the caste system is the best system thank you for teaching us hussie
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>>81814749
Eh.
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>>81814673
I can't believe I've been following this for years, holding out faith that Hussie knew what he was doing. I legitimately thought he was going to have a massive resolution that explained everything, making us look like fools for calling him a hack. But I guess not.

Well fuck this comic. Just thinking about it gets me sour. It's sad, this used to be my favorite story in the world. I honestly don't know if I can ever read it again. I got into it for the mysteries and Sburb, and even though it slowly fell apart over the years, I still thought Hussie had a master plan. But I've been staring at the writing on the wall for years, trying my damnest to ignore it. Well, I'm sorry I ever read this thing.
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>>81814464
i still don't understand, what the hell?
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>Aradia ends with being stuck in an infinite white void for all of eternity
>she gets to live forever, but in an empty expanse of nothingness with absolutely nobody
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT FAIR YOU FUCKING HACK
WHAT DID ARADIA DO TO DESERVE THIS
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>>81814627
What I REALLY want to know is why did John poof the kids without ANY of the trolls?
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>>81814829
Aradia got to see the end of everything which is what she wanted
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>>81814723
When Jane was in Trickster mode, she made a big deal about how CAUCASIAN she was, as a way of mocking the idea of the kids being ethnic minorities (despite them being intentionally drawn in a way that's not race-specific, hence the pure white skin tone).

In a move that should not be surprising, some people gleefully used this as a rallying cry to attack people for talking about political things. The thing basically went something like "Ha! Ha! A webcomic artist insulted you! Social justice is over!" along with some rather noticeable overtones of genuine racism, because they apparently thought it was an attack on minorities that they hated and supported it as such.

Andrew Hussie didn't like this. He didn't want to support bullies or racists, so he changed Jane's dialogue to say "PEACHY" instead. The same people who fought in his name are now blaming their victims for this, claiming that they were the ones who "forced" Hussie to change it, despite Hussie himself saying that it was the racist bullies.
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>>81814829
because she is ugly
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>>81814829
Not go with the meteor, is what. She chose this.
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>>81814802
Perhaps it is. For trolls.
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>>81814842
>>81814854
Sure, but I don't think she wanted to be forced to have a never-ending life in an actual fucking limbo.
>>81814847
FUCK YOU
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>>81814834
Because the trolls had all died of natural causes by then.
Another thing Caliborn's claymation and the big old dust cloud of the juju hitting the ground conveniently conceal is that they're all adults by that time.
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>>81814834
Perhaps because this was far into the future after all the trolls have died from natural causes? The kids are all god-tier, so they'll presumably not die from natural causes.
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>>81814858
Yeah that's called "making a poor decision".
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>>81814858
Perhaps she is 0k with it.
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>>81814858
i suppose we should be crowning her
the queen of limbo
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>>81814829
But if the void is non-existence, she doesn't exist any more
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>>81814845
>despite Hussie himself saying that it was the racist bullies.
Did Whedon close his twitter after a major project "like he always does" after AoU?
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>>81814858
>Sure, but I don't think she wanted to be forced to have a never-ending life in an actual fucking limbo.
You can't expect to witness the END OF THE UNIVERSE and still have something be around afterwards. That's not how it works.
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>>81814887
I'm the queen it's me
0u0
>>
vietnam: the webcomic
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>>81814864
>>81814871
That's one possible reason, I suppose, which means Vriska might very well permadie in the fight against Lord English since she should technically be with them
I hope the epilogue shows us the adult version of them, and why they even went to fight Caliborn in the first place. Though I have a feeling it might have something to do with the ring of void that he mysteriously aquires
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>>81814904
I wouldn't count on any of that desu
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>>81814845
My opinion is that offense cannot be given, only taken. Hussie said it was the racist bullies, but it makes a lot more sense that he'd change it to Peachy to avoid hurt feelings rather than to get back at some people
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>>81814901
>[S] It Ain't Me
>>
I just don't care anymore. I got what I wanted out of this comic a year ago. It's a shame that Hussie wasn't a good enough writer to bring it home, and it's a shame he got immensely distracted by the Homestuck video game development, which clearly negatively impacted everything.

I've moved on now.
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>>81814894
>>81814891
>>81814887
>>81814881
>>81814873
But Vriska gets to be the hero and she gets to die.

I'm not saying it shouldn't have happened, but I'm still upset. She spent her entire life, afterlife, etc. trying to fix everything and keep everything together, and she gets jack shit.
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>>81814901
IT AIN'T ME
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What the fuck even happened to Kanaya? She had zero fight presence, and despite having a new matriorb, it never felt like her or the trolls earned the right to continue their race, which was a pretty heavily discussed topic considering how badly they fucked up.
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>>81814855
t. untouchable
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>>81813211
But the kickstarter gave us Joey! I'd say it's a fair exchange.
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>>81814917
>My opinion is that offense cannot be given, only taken.
That's a lie, not an opinion.
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>>81814858
accept that aradia is fat and ugly just the way hussie intended her to be, her fate is one she deserved
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>>81814925
Bad writing!

She didn't even do anything to get that matriorb either.
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>>81814701

ass girl blind has???
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>>81814923
Aradia spent her entire "afterlife" making sure she had nothing to do with anything whatsoever. She chose to sit in the sidelines and grin sheepishly (get it) while everything went to shit.
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>>81814917
Right, he wanted to avoid hurt feelings which were caused by racist bullies.
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Is there something keeping the alpha kids from just carrying on after the beta kids get juju'd in Masterpiece? Even if half the main kids got converted into juju energy, that still leaves the other half to do whatever.
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>>81814942
BUT VRISKA IS WAY FATTER AND UGLIER
>>81814952
I mean her afterlife way back in hivebent, not her shitty lame poorly-written afterlife in Act 6.
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>>81814925
Better question: what the fuck happened to Terezi and why doesn't she show up in the new universe? Did she get turned around and fell off the lily pad?
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>People try to tell us for years that Homosuck is shit
>We didn't listen
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>>81814458
>dad has a mouth
REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>81814938
If a scientific study says women should not drink while pregnant, and a woman is offended by that study, is it the study's fault, or the woman's? This is a matter of opinion
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>>81814966
idk if you recently saw the ending of homestuck but vriska is cleary shown to be thin, busty and having a thigh gap, however aradia has to wear a baggy robe to had her fat rolls and a hood to cover her mollusk like face
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>>81814976
how do you think he hold the pipe?
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>>81814964
They are stuck in caliborns shitty session. Since it no longer contains LE or caliborn it is no longee an alpha timeline so theyre probably doomed.
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>>81814458
jesus look at dirks fucking glasses
also gremlin calliope catches me off guard every fucking time
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>>81814673
the funny think is that he KNEW the ending was gonna disappoint people so he had the Epilogue backup plan
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>>81814984
If a scientific study says that people die when their lungs are removed, and you say that it's entirely their own choice because damage can only be taken and not given, is that an opinion or a direct contradiction of the facts?
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>>81814986
Hussie has stated several times that Vriska is the fattest character in Homestuck. The ending wasn't drawn by Hussie. Therefore, Hussie's word holds out as being more canonical.
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>>81814984
Just because that woman took offense to that specific study does not mean it is impossible to "give" offense. If someone said women shouldn't drink at all because they're all idiots already, that is offensive.
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>>81815015
do you really trust the words of a hack?
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>>81814976
In the beginning John saw Dad as a goofy one-dimensional father figure, and his simplistic view of him is why his face had only one prominent feature. Now John is thinking of him as more of an actual person, so he can be seen more clearly.
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>>81814967
Anon, she killed herself.
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>>81814786
Anon.

They are all shitty leaders.
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>>81812679
her own comic was pretty alright
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>>81815024
Do you trust a fucking weaboo who didn't even write the comic?
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>>81812439
fuck yes. I agree wholeheartedly anon. Not at this specifically (even though I hate it) but fuck Act 5 and the trolls (except my nigga Gamzee).
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>>81815027
John finally saw his dad/son/great grandpa as someone with a mouth.
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>>81815040
that just gives them more credibility desu
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>>81815041
>except my nigga Gamzee
I'm glad that shitclown is locked in a fridge for all eternity.
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>>81815037
Vriska's plan succeeded without a hitch. Meenah successfully lead the ghost army against Lord English.
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>>81815023
A better analogy is if a woman saw the study and decided to start drinking out of spite, because fetal alcohol syndrome "can never be given, only taken", which makes it the baby's fault despite her deliberately doing something which is known to cause it.
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>>81815059
>credible
>chose to help make the worst thing to happen in all of homestuck
lol
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>>81815076
And Karkat also succeeded with his friends to kill the Black King.

Doesn't change that they are still shitty leaders.
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>>81815084
i praise the man would made the guillotine not the executioner
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>>81815096
Vriska sucks. Fuck you.
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>>81815107
Vriska fucks. Suck you.
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>>81815009
That analogy doesn't work, you can say one thing to two people and maybe only one of them is offended, that makes it subjective, and if it's subjective it can't be fact based.

>>81815023
It's offensive to most people but I can't think of something that would be offensive to everyone on earth. Is something offensive based on the number of people it offends? How do you decide on that number (if there are mods I know this is completely unrelated but let me have it, I haven't had this discussion with someone before)
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>>81815074
no way bro; the explosion caused by Jack English took Gamzee to Caliborn's session.
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>>81815076
>Vriska's plan succeeded without a hitch.
Her plan failed in pretty much every particular, and succeeded in spite of it.

Jade woke up before the battle began, but the Condesce didn't control her because... something.

They couldn't protect Jane, but they managed to win without her and bring her back afterwards.

She belittled Jake instead of helping him develop his skills, and she also thought that the Felt were pretty much meaningless so she assigned the team's worst fighters to them, which turned out for the best because her stupidity cancelled itself out.

She also thought Karkat was useless, but he ended up taking down Clover, whom Vriska didn't account for at all and is normally nigh-impossible to defeat.

The only thing that went as planned was Vriska herself defeating Lord English, and that was only at the last moment after an army of ghosts held him off while she was distracted.
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>>81815107
literally the hero of this story, practically the only one who got shit done. when you people talk home stuck and you mention vriska they know her and all that she did

but you mention aradia all you get is "who?" that "who?" perfectly defines the useless, ugly and fat aradia who deserves her fate
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>>81812478
AR

RIP
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Friendly reminder to go give Act 7 a thumbs down on YouTube. It'll bring you closer to letting Aranea step on your face!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FevMNMwvdPw
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>>81815118
Does that actually make sense, though? I mean, why doesn't he show up the same moment ARquiusprite and the horses do?
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>>81815157
I forgot that bitch existed
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Seriously what the fuck happened? Did they win? It looked really cool but what the fuck happened?
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>>81815136
Remember when Karkat got shit done?

I miss him.
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>>81815162

You really shouldn't, because here's a horrifying thought:

Aranea is the only character in Homestuck to have a complete and satisfactory character arc.
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>>81815167
they lost just when they were about to win
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>>81815114
>It's offensive to most people but I can't think of something that would be offensive to everyone on earth.
The same is true of most deadly diseases. The fact that it affects some people is well-known, well-understood, and often fully intentional on the attacker's part; sure, there's some uncertainty in some cases, but in most of them it's people invoking ambiguity in the least ambiguous situations to pretend there's nothing where they know there's something.

Think of it this way. In Act 6, CD force-fed Jake peanuts in his sleep, knowing he was allergic, with the specific intent to murder him. Does the fact that they were only "subjectively" lethal to Jake (which, again, is a known fact) make it Jake's fault, or does CD's knowledge and intent make him responsible for his own actions?

Another point: Bec Noir murders several people by stabbing them. But while stabbing is lethal to most people, there are people (John, for instance) who can survive it. Does that make murder "subjective", or does it make it a fact that some people can survive it and some can't?
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>>81815157
>288,276 views
Damn
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>>81815176
if being cancerous is "getting shit done" than yea man
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>>81815176
karkat has never gotten anything done
karkat is a big fat mistake and a mess
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>>81815188
Less or more than expected?
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>>81815167
The destruction of the Green Sun made LE vulnerable, at which point the B1 kids popped out again to fight him. The result isn't shown.
Or maybe he's only vulnerable to Dave's sword, which is made from the remains of the God Tier clock he absorbed to become invulnerable in the first place.
Or maybe the whole claymation masterpiece thing took place in an alternate metatimeline and the only thing that happens here is the juju absorbing Lord English while everyone else lives happily ever after in the new universe they created.
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i will never stop shitting on araida and praising vriska
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>>81815203
Not him but that's exactly how many I expected it to have, considering Collide.
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So, what will Karkat's epilogue role be?

1. Shitty troll leader that everyone makes fun of, but he is a good guy
2. Tyrant
3. Cuck

Which one will it be?
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>>81815203
Less.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URcvdDtnM_0

I still think something like this would have been a better ending for Homestuck
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Why didn't DMK go to the afterlife?
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>>81815229
edgelord final boss setup for hiveswap
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>>81815228
>Not him but that's exactly how many I expected it to have, considering Collide.
>exactly
Wow, lucky. I'd have guessed 288,275 at most.
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>>81815157
>That ratio
Proof that 4chan is a small minority and the average reader would lap up any ending.
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>tfw this is now relevant
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>>81815238
Demonhead Mobster Kingpin was only one aspect of Mobster Kingpin, so he simply faded away when defeated. When the ultimate Mobster Kingpin was killed, he went to the afterlife and was trapped there by a musical instrument jamming the door.
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Well, HSG/hst, it's been fun. I'll see if I come back tomorrow, for some more rounds of complaints, or if I finally just leave everything Homestuck for good. I don't know what, but I'll probably still feel empty inside regardless.
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>>81815255
Where is that from?
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>>81815281
arrivvederci
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>>81815295
It's a spoof of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXIOA_sgZoo
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>>81815229
>watches romcoms
>this deems him as a shitty joke character, according to Hussie
1 and 3
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Wait, so Lord English's rainbow immortality powers which were a corruption (or, if you prefer, "evolution") of god tier pseudo-immortality was removed by getting rid of the Green Sun, wouldn't that mean that all god tier pseudo-immortality was removed?

Maybe the Lord English battle was an "End of Time" type scenario similar to "Beginning of Time" when the Tumor exploded. Or maybe we were faked out and Lord English didn't actually die because he's immortal. Or maybe destroying the green sun was just to prevent Lord English's potential escape using green sun teleportation powers and the juju is what killed him or trapped him or de-powered him whatever because of juju.

Glub Glub Shrug.
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>>81815238
Probably because the keepers of the afterlife (the Lovecraftian terrors who maintain the bubbles) don't like him very much on account of all the killing them that he did.
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In the end, Act 5 was probably the most cohesive element of the story. You can hate the Trolls, but the writing was sound. If it had 3 acts instead of 2, using the 2 acts to flesh out the pre-entry and 600 hour post entry events, it would be the most well-rounded Act of the entirety of Homestuck. You can even throw the stupid ancestor bullshit in and skip the Act 6 bullshit that becomes largely irrelevant sans Aranea and Meenah, who could just be replaced in Act 6 by Eridan and Feferi. Who could have an interesting dynamic together. Not even Eridanposting.
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>>81815362
>Or maybe destroying the green sun was just to prevent Lord English's potential escape using green sun teleportation powers
Or it's that, but what will wind up killing him is Dave's Welshcalibur because it's forged from the pendulum of the God Tier clock Caliborn absorbed.
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>>81815185
The thing is I don't put being offended on the same level as dying from a disease or being stabbed to death, that's why I treat "10% of people are offended by x" less seriously than "1% of people are killed by x". Learning to get over something and not let hurt feelings best you is part of emotional maturity that everyone deals with. The people who don't wanna deal with it, who see someone laughing that Homestuck made a Caucasian joke and light up Hussie's tumblr, those people are pushing the boundaries of what behaviors should be considered contemptible, beyond obvious intentional offenses to unintentional offenses that affect 1% of people. There are cases where a subject really does cause an instant emotional trauma, and cases where some kids are allowed to whine because they're part of a marginalized group, I'm sick of them being blurred together.
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>>81815362
>Or maybe destroying the green sun was just to prevent Lord English's potential escape using green sun teleportation powers
Those wouldn't work anyway. They're in the Furthest Ring, remember? You can't use First Guardian teleporting powers there because it's outside the Green Sun's domain of rulership.
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tfw Nora Reads Homestuck update where she watches cascade is more compelling than actual homestuck ending
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>>81815251
>we're better than them
they're having a better time than you
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>>81815127
no, it didn't. Every single thing went right. Literally fucking nothing went wrong, you're just a contrary cunt
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>>81812555
I felt exactly like that about PM. At least she was redeemed at last.
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>>81815415
>The thing is I don't put being offended on the same level as dying from a disease or being stabbed to death,
No, the thing is that emotions exist. If you choose to disregard that fact, you're choosing to disregard a fact, plain and simple. Unless you're not, and are deliberately bullying people while using the false subjectivity of facts as a shield from taking responsibility for your own actions, which is what the vast majority of deniers are doing the vast majority of the time.
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>>81815474
Vriska's goal was accomplished, that doesn't mean Vriska accomplished it. Rose and Dave planned to destroy the Green Sun, and it was destroyed, but not because of their plan.
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>>81815475
I sort of felt that way about WV.
He was built up like he was going to have to face his fears and put the fucking ring on, but Hussie decided to go with the much more boring route and have PM use it the entire time.
WV deserves to be able to kill Jack.
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update the fucking mAP YOU HACK
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>>81815458
That's a thing? I know First Guardians have the same kind of difficulty navigating through the Furthest Ring that normal flying god tiers do, but I didn't think that had anything to do with the green sun, whose explosion can be seen through the furthest ring and whose power cackled about Lord English throughout the fight up until it was destroyed was not able to reach the Furthest Ring.
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>>81812993
I really, really like this image
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>>81815507
WV could have become a King. There's an intact King's Scepter just lying around on the Battlefield, there for the taking.
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>>81815266
that looks strikingly similar to lord english's end
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>>81815520
The Green Sun exists within the Furthest Ring, but it doesn't hold dominion over it like it does with some universes. A First Guardian can teleport anywhere within a given domain, but only that far.
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>>81815507
>put the fucking ring on
Can't say I expected or wanted him to do that. But I did hope for him to become relevant in more ways than administrative stuff in the new universe.
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Didn't Hussie say that there is another game after Hiveswap?

Houseswitched or something?
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How do we save him?
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>>81813370
>that filename
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>>81815559
>wanting to deny WV his dream
What kind of monster are you?
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>>81815559
Him putting the ring on was one of the things Hussie kind of built up to but forgot about completely.
I mean, remember WV's dream?
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>>81815415
Don't tell me I haven't had emotions, hard feelings, really shitty days, I've had all of that, my experiences are exactly the reason I place high importance on the ability to suck it down. Sometimes my feeling like shit is due to someone's intentional hostility, but you know sometimes it really isn't, and in those cases I don't prioritize my feelings over another person's lack of awareness, or even sometimes what is natural human behavior, I don't stir up shit on my behalf, because you lose friends, you make enemies, and you come out of it no more prepared to deal with life's bullshit than before.
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>>81815465
who? genuinely curious
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>>81815544
So after they suck Lord English into the juju, all they need to do is stick John's piano in front of the door!
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My bad >>81815591 should be reply to >>81815491
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>>81815578
>>81815589
You mean his fucking nightmare? Yeah I remember that.
Those rings are the antithesis of democracy, and WV is a talker, not a fighter. Destroying them is a lot more fitting for WV than using them.
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>>81813370
>Some of my posts are probably in there
>I'll never know if they are
>Or which posts they would be
Fuck.
I wish I could at least know what's in there.
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>>81815615
Destroying them was a fucking copout.
>Jack murders his army
>Traumatizes him for life
>Just when he thinks he's free from him he comes in, kills his friends and nearly murders him
>PM just lets Jack go with a slap on the wrist
>Even after everything he has done to them
Jack needs to be brought to justice.
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>>81815591
>Don't tell me I haven't had emotions, hard feelings, really shitty days,
Don't tell me they're nothing, then. Being aware that you're responsible for your own actions is an important part of human development. Acting like everyone in your way is obligated to shut up and take it while you bully them is not.
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>>81815629
Bringing Jack to justice and WV wearing the ring are two different things, brah. I also feel that Jack's story hasn't had a satisfying conclusion. But I don't think that WV doing a complete 180, putting on the ring and starting to tear shit up would have been it.
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>>81815629
eh
PM is a postwoman, so it was just another delivery but
I wish she actually did kill jack though to show how overcome with rage and power she was, and then destroy them later after she saw WV and snapped out of it or some shit
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>>81815615
I was actually talking about his dream of being a small-time, local civil administrator of a peaceful and uneventful community.
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>>81815656
Jack's ending is especially bullshit when you consider the fact that they killed Slick when he did absolutely nothing wrong but let Jack walk free even though he was a piece of shit murderer.
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>>81815662
Oh, that? Yeah he definitely achieved that. I was just hoping he'd be more involved in the immediate events leading there.
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So what's this I'm hearing about Davekat being canon
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Jack > Slick

Eat shit cucks
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>>81815570
No, he said Hiveswap would be episodic.
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>>81815679
i'm sorry
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>>81815679
It's not.
DaveJade is though.
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>>81815592
A liveblogger posting reactions to HS as she reads it, I've been having a lot of fun kind of reliving the good parts of HS through her.

http://nora-reads-homestuck.tumblr.com/
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>>81815656
How should Jack's story have concluded anyway?

Die protecting Jade?
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>>81815685
Yeah, but also that if it worked out, they'd do an (also episodic) sequel about the other side of it.
Of course that was before the whole odd gentlemen clusterfuck.
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>>81815706
Actually paying for his crimes.
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>>81815706
Get stuck forever on an empty planet, having to look up at a symbol of his failure that he's genetically programmed to detest.
Basically the same as now except Ms. Paint leaves.
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>>81815689
thanks
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>>81812420
The major problem i see with HOmestuck is that it was way too long and complicated. Why did it even go on as long as it did?
I know this ending wasn't the most satisfyting for alot of people, but honestly for me just having an ending is good enough.
I wanted something more funny, but this is enough
If he ever made a Homestuck 2.0 id say he have to keep a shorter and more concise plot
but maybe complicated shit is what hussie is known for?
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>>81815706
dead
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>>81815706
Swapping fates with slick
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>>81815723
>but maybe complicated shit is what hussie is known for?
It kinda is, but mostly because of Problem Sleuth. And, well, Homestuck.
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>>81815635
When Hussie made the Caucasian joke, the ethnic headcanon people were bullied, I don't deny or condone this, but that doesn't make it Hussie's responsibility to change the joke on their behalf. I think it's THEIR responsibility as developing people to recognize that the joke itself wasn't offensive, people were making it offensive. And people can make anything ANYTHING offensive if they really want to get at you, but when they do that you need to get a grip and ignore them, not make such a fuss the person who meant no offense (Hussie) is forced to pick a side.
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god, so many memories
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Are The Felt dead? I mean Clover should still be alive right?
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>>81815739
Like tears in rain
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>>81815757
Inconclusive. To me, that Felt pile at the end of Collide didn't really look dead either.
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>>81815735
maybe.
Honestly if there is a homestuck 2.0,, atlest keep it relatively breef. ya know? like 3000 pages
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>>81815736
>And people can make anything ANYTHING offensive
Now you're reaching for the "other people's feelings are just FAKED SO THEY CAN ATTACK ME" bullshit? It's a good thing that the vast majority of the human race doesn't conform to your doublethink, because I don't know how society could function if it was considered "normal" to blame the victims of problems while dismissing them with simplistic absolutes like "there's always a complainer even when there isn't" instead of ACTUALLY dealing with problems.
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>>81815757
Jake beat them up, but he didnt kill them
but who knows if they survived the balck hole
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Reminder that the ending was PURE ARTISTIC SKILL.
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>>81812420
Yes, because it was a cool concept but it was used in the worst posible way
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>>81815800
Well they kind of have to have survived the black hole if the new universe did.
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What was the point of showing us Snowman's pin? Spades Slick was like "oh man it would be pretty awkward if i pulled that one" and then nobody spoke about it ever again
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>>81815820
Graphically, the ending is amazing. Fuck, the ending, story wise, isn't even that bad, it could have been great as it was, if all the loseends had actually been addressed beforehand.

The ending feel like a great conclusion to an unfinished story.
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>>81815800
Who knows if the "balck" hole had any effect anywhere near them? Or anywhere at all? They're in a Sburb session and we don't know where it is in the Furthest Ring, so whe don't know how Calliope's magic will affect it. Thought we still wouldn't know that even if we did know where it was. Or what happens to a session when its players enter its universe. Or whether the Felt came with them.

At least we know that game constructs like the Felt can survive outside of their session, since they were in the trolls' universe at one point. But if they're game constructs, why do they have their own reproductive cycle?
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>>81815843
anon literally anything related to Slick after the recovery didnt matter
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>>81815736
Here's the full quote
>And people can make anything ANYTHING offensive if they really want to get at you
I could have been more articulate, what I meant is you're not gonna stop people from taking a perfectly inoffensive joke like CAUCASIAN! and using it to make some kind of offensive joke on you. And I'll say it again, where the offense is intentional, I don't dismiss their feelings. The people attacking ethnic headcanons are fucking assholes. I only blame the victims of this stuff when they ruin it for everyone else. There's good and bad ways to deal with bullying. Here, they should have just ignored it.
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>>81815844
No. Anon. You don't get it. Caliborn finally got gud at anime.
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>>81815844
I think it felt deteached, like it was something that didnt really feel like something Hussie would write.
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>>81815736
>When Hussie made the Caucasian joke, the ethnic headcanon people were bullied, I don't deny or condone this, but that doesn't make it Hussie's responsibility to change the joke on their behalf
It kinda does. If you are able to easily stop people from being hurted, it's your responsibility.

>I think it's THEIR responsibility as developing people to recognize that the joke itself wasn't offensive
Not what happened.
>>81815854
>only blame the victims of this stuff when they ruin it for everyone else.
Except they are not the one who ruined it for everyone else. It's the people who attacked "racial headcanon" fanartist who wear the full weight of responsibility.

They are the one who caused the joke to be removed. Trying to turn the victims of stupid harassment as the one being responsible of the removal make no sense.

Hussie did what he did because it was a sure way to stop people from taking CAUCASIAN as a freepass to harrass fan-artists.
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>>81815844
It's the people who expected all of the character arcs to finish who were disappointed. The comic never made any implication that they WERE all going to be wrapped up... People got those expectations from their standards of "good storytelling"
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Anime Vriska is best Vriska
Prove me wrong.
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>>81815906
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>>81815854
Hussie outright said that he changed the word because he didn't support bullies who weaponized it, yet people are still blaming the victims. Somehow, they're the ones who "ruined" Homestuck by making it lack a single deliberately offensive joke, and they're the ones who are obligated to keep silent when they're bullied so that no one has to consider their feelings. Because that's the mature thing to do.
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>Hussie only created the retcon plot, so he can tie Homestuck with Hiveswap
>the doomsday weapon is a copy of sburb

FUCK
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>>81815930
So are the trolls in Hiveswap the trolls that the Matriorb created?
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>>81815903
Starting them in the first place is a pretty big implication
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>>81815930
you fucking what
nothing about what you just said made any sense
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>>81815736
>the ethnic headcanon people were bullied
I don't get it. Are you implying Caucasians don't belong to an ethnicity?
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>>81815940
And the humans will be created with ectobiology.
Because I don't think they had a large enough genepool to last many generations, not accounting for the gay and interspecies ships.
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>>81815930
>this was the reason why Kanaya needed to protect Karkat
>to create a new tyrant, so the troll kids want to play sburb to create a new universe without him
FUCK ECHIDNA
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>>81815971
the monkeys paw never fails
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>>81815965
you kinda sound like you're being deliberately obtuse here
he obviously means ethnic as in ethnic mural, not as in belonging to an ethnic group
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>>81815901
Hussie's choice was the quick and dirty solution, but you're never going to prevent people from being hurt. Those people were already hurt. It's like a parent unplugging the TV for their kid... they were just gonna get bored of it eventually. All Hussie did is make a statement to these people that it really was the joke that was offensive, if removing the joke ends up with the least amount of feelings hurt. You're not gonna end online harassment, that shit came with the internet, it's human nature, and it will continue until the apocalypse. Call me an asshole but I see no purpose or value in putting any blame on them for this reason.
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Not even Hiveswap can escape having a Serket steal the limelight.
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>>81815981
>ethnic mural
uh wat
A mural can be ethnically diverse with just caucasian people.
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>>81816010
Forgot muh pic
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>>81815942
The UNFINISHED* indications next to Bard Quest and Jailbreak imply otherwise
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>>81815981
Those are the same thing
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Nobody actually thinks it's over, do they?
He's just trolling everyone and doing it really well

Caliborn has been drawing smut and fan service since his very first conversation with Dirk, and in a way Callope has too, so it's very very clear that's what this is

If you don't agree with this then you're probably retarded
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>>81815689
aw man she was so excited in the cascade video
thats awesome
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>>81816011
okay now I can't tell if you're deliberately being REALLY obtuse or just haven't read problem sleuth
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>>81815911
>8FF
thats not how its done
Vriska is a retard
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>>81816026
It's like I'm in 2015 again and MGS5 had just been released!
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>>81815238
He was just MK's imaginary self. Imaginary selves are just like extra lives, they don't go to the afterlife.
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>>81816026
you and your faith in Hussie are so cute
adorable
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>>81816033
:^)
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>>81816026
it's ogre

>>81816031
What did you think of A7 Angle?
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>>81815993
>Hussie's choice was the quick and dirty solution, but you're never going to prevent people from being hurt.
You can't spare all of the feelings all of the time, but you can spare most of the feelings most of the time. Human emotion is a complex subject with many nuances, but it's absolutely worth considering. In fact, it's usually much easier than certain people make it out to be.

However, some people simply prefer to use platitudes like "there's always a complainer" as an excuse to do nothing (even though they're usually actively attacking people rather than doing "nothing"). Just because a hypothetical complainer will "inevitably" take offense at your hypothetically good behavior (as opposed to the detestable and easily avoidable behavior of most excuse-makers) doesn't change the fact that it's good behavior.
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Say it with me

All
The
Kids
Are
White
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>>81816026
>Guize, it's me, I'm the only one who thinks rationally!
>Hussie is t-trolling everyone, y-you'll see
>Y-you'll see...
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>>81816076
All The Kids Are White

Jade I Do Not Understand Why You Insist On All The Ecto Children Have A Specific Hue

Are The Darker Ones Not Considered Human
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did anyone seriously expect this to end well honestly after all that wait?

I mean the anime thing looked cool tho
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>>81815844
>The ending, story wise, isn't even that bad
Wrong.

>good guy makes black hole
>other good guy uses magic object which we don't understand the rules of
>the black hole (presumably) sucks up the bad guy and he (presumably) dies off-screen
Cut to lilypad
>zoom into small blue planet
>time thingies zoom around it
>oh boy everyone's happy!!! wheee!!! forget about how eventually this planet will become a barren wasteland for some reason and that at some point the protagonists will have to go back in time to fight the antagonist and will get sucked up into juju and ultimately get killed/trapped in a doomed session, look at how happy they are now! yaaaay! everyone's so happy!
>cut back to good guy
>opens door on house thing
>etc. etc. some backstory shit on how the antagonist became immortal that shouldn't have been explained in the finale
>end

It feels rushed, lazy, and nothing was explained. Instead of explaining that this isn't actually a "good end" and that despite everything they're all still doomed, and why it happens in the first place, Hussie opts to just show us a bunch of the characters being happy, because if he made a sad ending, less people would like it.

Then there's the fact that it flat-out ignores the majority of the characters. This story has always run on the characters; people read homestuck for the characters, not the story. That's why things like Paradox Space, which is just the characters of homestuck in different situations, are so popular.
>>81815903
>expecting to learn the conclusions of characters in the ending of a story is a bad thing
Just go fuck yourself.
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>>81815940
>>81815930
Do any of you faggots even keep up with the developing process.

The games takes place before Homestuck. You play as Jake's children. The trolls are from Alternia.
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>>81816104
I expected something even if it was a colossal trainwreck
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>>81816096
pfff
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>>81816072
initially?
huge mix of sad and mad. like i don't think i had ever felt such extreme disappointment in my entire life. cried a bit. after my friends and i all said fuck homestuck and went out to eat.
now its just lingering disappointment. reading peoples interpretations of what happened makes it less awful but its just too incomplete. can only hope the epilogue ties it up some
can't deny that it was beautiful though
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>>81816106
>people read homestuck for the characters, not the story.
I read it for the story and I still felt unsatisfied because there wasn't much of that either. Can Town was nice but we don't even know if it really happened, let alone when.
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>>81815903
>People got those expectations from their standards of "good storytelling"
There are are couple of objective standards to good writing though.
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>>81816096
yes
now repeat after me
the
only
good
nigger
is
a
dead
nigger
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>>81816131
you know what was bullshit? the kids not getting new outfits for the new world
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>>81816134
This. It was very underwhelming since we don't know what comes after the masterpiece.
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>>81816134
Exactly. Neither the people who read for the story or for the characters are happy. The only people who are happy with this ending are Hussie apologists who eat up anything he shits out of that bulbous orange ass.
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>>81816043
It's exactly like that
>Guys there's gonna be a patch first week with the missing content!
>There's gonna be a patch any day now...
>The next patch surely will have the missing content
What a mess we made.
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>>81813253
Found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vrNMin7nGA
At about 18:30
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>>81816031
Yeah. I'm really surprised she didn't figure out the green sun beforehand, it was awesome to see her surprise haha. She's usually really good at figuring things out, way better than I was when I first read through
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>>81816096
even after all this time, every time i see this pic
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>>81816155
Well, at least they finally got out of their god-tier clothes.
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>>81816155
it was storyboarded 4 years ago, its not surprising
>that awkward soccer playing
>that generic picnic
i just
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>>81816155
This pissed me off an inordinate amount

>series about growing up
>john and rose are back to wearing the same shit as on the page they were introduced
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>>81816126
this actually gives me a lot of hope
the full end of PS is amazing
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>>81816182
>that awkward soccer playing
Ha, I thought I was the only one who felt it was weirdly awkward
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>>81816182
>it was storyboarded 4 years ago
That explains why Vriska had to lead the army anyways.
What the fuck was the point of the retcon if Vriska could've just stayed dead and continue her plan?
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>>81816202
To make it so that there could be a "Game Over", but at the same time, have it not actually effect the plot in any way.
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>>81816126
But the epilogue for PS was released like a week or so after this. Hussie's implying it might take months to do one for Homestuck.
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>>81814008
I think the problem was a convergence of expectations for what he had planned and what panned out. According to him, he has this Ending in mine since day 1 of the comic, it's always been the same finale in mind.

The problem is the comic got WAY out of control. So an ending that would've looked spectacular had he capped it off at Act 4 or 5 or kept Problem Sleuth levels of simple, ended up far less impressive when propped over a story that got way bigger than he ever intended it to be. He should have either kept Homestuck small, or modified the ending and expanded his vision for how Homestuck actually unfolded, rather then kept so dogmatically towards what he'd originally planned.

That, and I'm guessing he was just so fucking tired of it all by now. Wouldn't you, I mean afterall this? He probs had this 4-year animation oh hand and a nightmare of a series to conclude and just said "Fuck it, play the tape. Let's get this over with already." so he could move on to better things. Wouldn't be surprised if he felt Homestuck was slowing him down and draining his potential with how laborious a project it became.
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>>81816216
m-maybe that means the epilogue for Homestuck will be that much better..!
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>post yfw you realized that the flash had ended and the next page is curtains
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>>81816155
i wonder if theywere wearing their old, small outfits

imagine Rose wearing a shirt and a skirt too small for her
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>>81816253
i'm going to need some art of that
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>>81816246
My 1:1 reaction.
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>>81816244
Like everything after the gigapause was so much better?
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>>81816253
I'm pretty sure they didn't grow, they are god-tiers and stuck as kids.
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>>81816106
You seem like such, an asshole. It takes real effort to read that much "laziness" into something that quite clearly took so long to make. Act 6 needed like three pauses. You know I've read theories that say that spending too much time inside on a computer with little social interaction actually deteriorates your ability to enjoy things. Not pointing at you specifically but at this entire thread. I must have missed something, why are they all still doomed? (genuinely asking)
>people read homestuck for the characters, not the story
The characters had their time. They all had time to shine, just not all in the conclusion, that would have been fuckin cramped. A conclusion for every character is material for the epilogue.
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>>81816246
I didn't believe it would be curtains until I saw it
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>>81816174
classic
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>>81816280
you think that's bad? I stared at it blankly for a psych or whatever

I could not believe that was it.
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>>81816246
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>>81816200
it was incredibly uncomfortable
it feels like fanart
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>>81816246
That's it you hack?
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>>81816246
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>>81816274
>why are they all still doomed?
They need to jump into caliborn's masterpiece at some point (the claymation)
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>>81816274
>Doesn't know why they're all doomed despite the happy-go-lucky ending
>Y-You're just being negative, you wanted to dislike the ending!
>The ending isn't supposed to tell you where the characters end up!
You're just trying to make me mad, aren't you? I really have to explain to you why "the bad guy got eated by a black hole, and the good guys win the game" is a bad ending?

Sure, it looks nice. Sure, it took effort to animate it. But that's all I can say about it. Even then, the big flashy professional-looking animation clashes with the rest of the comic in its entirety.

If I were to explain every single thing I hate about the ending, I could be here for days. You're better off telling me what you liked about it.
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>>81816246
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>>81816246
hsg was a mess of emotions
so was i
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>>81816306
What the fuck are they even doing?
That's not how you play football.
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>>81816306
They tried to warn us about the sports.
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>>81816246
My head still hurts from the anger. I think I may have injured myself from just how infuriated I was.
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>>81816306
Hahaha, it looks like they're trying to take flight or some shit
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>>81816246
Perfectly calm and composed, the weight has been lifted, the narrative has concluded in a satisfying and reasonable manner.
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>>81816246
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>>81816246
It confused the fuck out of me how /hsg/ could have been so hyped by [S] Collide that they wouldn't even hear of my complaint that it was "just a bunch of fights: all spectacle and not substance" and yet was so disappointed by the even larger spectacle that was [S] Act 7. I guess people were denying what was happening- that Homestuck had already ended long ago and that this was just a formality- until the very end when they couldn't deny it any longer.
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>>81816372
The thread got 2900 replies with 505 unique posters.

Is this the most ever in a non-sticky thread?
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>>81816372
Please tell me someone made a word web
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>>81816241
The ending could have been better if we knew more about the things that would happen beforehand. For example, all we're told about the Ultimate Weapon's second function is that it works differently from the first time it's used; if we were given some vague yet decipherable description of what it does when used against Lord English, we'd have a decent amount of fodder for speculation on that front.

That's the thing about ambiguous endings and visual storytelling like this. They need enough prior knowledge so that you can interpret the events. For things like Cascade or Jade: Enter, you already knew about the Green Sun so you immediately knew the significance of the dramatic story-changing twists. In Act 7, the events are so unprecedented that we don't even know where to start guessing.

It also helps that those two events weren't the ending. They introduced plot points which could be developed further after the fact. But for everything in Act 7, that's all we are (or were) ever going to see of it.
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>>81816246
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>>81816402
Oh god, I need a word web of the reaction ASAP.
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>>81816246
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>>81816306
Full HAPPY LIFE part looks much worse than all other parts of animation.
Near to slideshow.
Maybe there is some meaning behind it?
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>>81816411
To be fair we thought we knew that the Juju did but we'll never actually know since we don't see it

Maybe the kids did come out of it like a clown car and blast LE into the blackhole with their Cuestick fraymotif

But we just DONT KNOW
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>>81816246
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>>81812478
Spades man.
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>>81816436
I just now realized that Jade was drinking tab
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>>81816436
>Dad was stuck in a world full of gay teenagers

F
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>>81816436
I've only watched it once and I didn't notice Jane and Dad

I guess that's pretty telling of her importance
>>
You have two choices

>All the kids are confirmed white
>No gay shit except for maybe one gay token ship
>Your OTP becomes canon
BUT
>The epilogue is as lackluster as the ending
>Your favorite character gets a good closure, but the rest of the characters get nothing, arcs are left very much unresolved
>Everything is pretty much left as it is

Or

>Multiculturalism is canon now
>Gay singularity
>Your OTP is destroyed beyond belief
>Your favorite character doesn't get closure
BUT
>Epilogue is amazing
>Shit gets wrapped up, albeit not all the shit, just the important bits and some details
>Huss feels like his old self even if just for a brief moment
>All the other characters get their closure

What do you choose?
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>>81816306
>clipart
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>>81816436
It means they had a limited budget and a very small production team and would rather animate the interesting parts than some post cards.
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>>81816345
>>81816350
>>81816363
They're doing it wrong on purpose to be ironic. That's the sort of thing Dirk would do.

Of course, since the best irony has an element of sincerity, he would still give it his all and try to win the Goofy Soccer game with every bit of skill and strategy he had.
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>>81816372
that sobbing eridan was my reaction image

>>81816345
>>81816363
its the most generic, out of character feeling thing i can imagine

>>81816436
that was also upsetting
finally getting fluid animation in homestuck and its fucking gorgeous and the majority of it went to the frog
the characters got to move so little and in the end we still got fan drawn slideshows of them
why is karkat suspending his butt off the ground
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>>81816474
Both of those choices are complete shit.
Give me the mystery box.
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>>81816436
>no shadows
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>>81816474
Mystery box.
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>>81816498
Mistery box means you will get the epilogue in 4/13 of 2018
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>>81815127
Why does everyone over-estimate Clover? He's sorta kinda super lucky but otherwise harmless, and not even that miraculous. If you stuck a sword or knife through him would one expect the blade to break off, even if you stabbed him really slowly?

Basically Clover is a joke villain and anyone citing him as a meaningful victory for a Karkat is a non-sequitur.
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>>81816499
I'm also blind as fuck, but it looks like they're standing on a shitty 3D backdrop with a bunch of sprites serving as shit like trees and that rock.
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>>81816499
FINALLY
I FOUND WHAT WAS BOTHERING ME
The characters look like they are floating. Or are stickers plastered on a background.
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>>81816484
>its the most generic, out of character feeling thing i can imagine
Honestly, I can imagine them doing just that.

>Jake: Well, we finished our adventure and made it to the new world. What do you want to do now?
>Dirk: The most generic, out-of-character thing I can imagine.
>Jake: A game of awkward soccer?
>Dirk: Hell yes.
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>>81816515
I'll take it.
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>>81812420
yea
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>>81816527
Yup, it's a 3d plane with sprites

Aka video games circa 1995
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>>81816331
What's wrong with winning the game? That's what I clicked on [S] ACT 7 to see specifically. It's only been alluded to as the end goal by every character in homestuck for years, pulling some plot shit where that doesn't happen is Shamalyan-tier, I think exactly HOW that happened is debatable, there is enough ambiguity here to make you think and I also like that. What else did I like, I liked seeing my favorite characters come to life in fully animated glory, that pretty amazing considering I've never seen that in my life, it was short and sweet but I don't have a problem with that. I liked seeing at least a glimpse of the character's lives at the end, I liked seeing the vast croak come to life, I liked the music, it's still stuck in my head, it was even better than Cascade's. I watched it twice in a row and generally had that feeling of wonder that lasted the rest of the night just like Cascade. This is not to mention that the beauty of this thing literally made me gasp. I don't think I can name an animation I've ever seen that was more beautiful. Is that enough for you asshole?
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>>81816499
that too!
damn
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>>81816482
>They worked at 9-minute animation over a year.
>They half-assed more than a minute of it.
It wold be very very sad if it's true.
>>
so i guess Problem Sleuth is going to be the only adventure with an actual ending, huh?
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>>81816556
>John got cucked out of both a gf AND a boss kill
I hope Hussie gets ran over.
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>>81816548
The problem isn't that they won, it's how

Remember how everyone thought shit was going to go down on the lilypad and it never did? That's part of what was missing
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mY, EXISTENCE IS PAIN
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New

>>81816570
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>>81816246
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>>81816565
she's their DAUGHTER you sick fuck
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>>81816556
I was actually okay with the stills except for the generic soccer playing. I don't feel like the characters moving in these scenes would have carried any extra meaning since the 'moments' were conceptually snapshots themselves.
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>>81816533
>>81816550
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>>81815844
Personally, I thought the ending looked like dogshit. Anime Meme and Production values aside, Cascade, Collide and all of Hussie's flashes were more visually appealing and interesting then the horribad Animu he commissioned for the comic. I would've much rather seen the ending, or any ending in his style then outsouce it like he did.
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>>81816581
No, Roxy is a pedophile, but she's a gay pedophile so it's okay.
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>>81816602
Looks a bit better, but the possibly 3d ground still really fucking bugs me.
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>>81816602
f-fuck
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>>81816556
>taking 4 years for only 8 minutes of quality animation
That is common for independent animation. Animation takes a lot of man-hours and when you don't have many mans, that means a lot of time.
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>>81816306
>>81816436
hold on they used the same tree twice in this shot
they just flipped it turnways
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>>81816638
Good catch!
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>>81816638
It seriously looks like they just drew over a screenshot of WoW.
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>>81816638
If it took you this many looks to notice it then I have to say it doesn't really matter.
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>>81815157
>413 dislikes
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>>81816274
Act 7 WAS supposed to the the epilogue you douche. And not, whatever we got.
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>>81816638
That's super normal though, both in games and drawn animation.
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>>81812420
fuck homestuck
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>>81816474
The latter. Gladly the latter.
Give me nigger vitiligo Dave, Muslim otherkin Rose and Transcuck Dogcock Jade, I don't care. If they'd been given the proper ending and we get closure on the story and plot and everything else, he could've made them canon smurfs for all I care.

And I don't care about ships or OTPs because I'm not a huge faggot.
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>>81816682
slick youtube theme
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>>81816714
this was like the stillest shot we got
its panning around a still image
again its just disappointing to see the character parts get the least love
that part with the tree erupting out of the ground? gorgeous
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>>81816548
It doesn't feel like they actually 'beat' the game.
Cause Lord English and Caliborn wasn't dealt with yet and we're pretty confused with what was going on. Did the Kids go and defeat him before they entered the new universe? After they entered? Did that whole series of events that Caliborn saw + the Puppetshow never happen? It's so goddamn infuriating. It's like the ending of The Amazing Spiderman 2, it just, stops inexplicably.

Even LOST and Heroes got a better ending, and that's saying something.
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>>81816760
It could use more spades.
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>>81814443
Yet people still found the ending unsatisfying. Homestuck made it's own storytelling rules then proceeded to shit on them. It also tried with an implied but still pretty basic ending after a pretty bland last act without giving the readers the closure they needed.

You can say Homestuck was a smart and experimental piece of media that used non-traditional storytelling techniques, but you can't say it used them WELL. Not throughout it's entirety. People can be butthurt for a reason other than "it's just a story, bro, can't you relax?", and judging by the reactions on this board an other places that shall remain unnamed, they pretty much are.

>I don't take Homestuck seriously enough to read any of that.

I didn't take Blackadder Goes Forth seriously at all and was still extremely satisfied with the ending. It felt appropriate. It gave closure and made sense in the setting while also breaking the traditional rules of storytelling. It was poignant, meaningful and extremely silly at the same time.
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>>81816842
>Homestuck shit fuck all just fucking ending Hussie
That's amazingly appropriate.
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>>81816778
>LOST got a better ending

WRONG
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>>81816842
Why was it deleted?
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>can't talk about Homestuck without massive bitching anymore
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>>81816893
To post it in the new thread, apparently.

>>81816865
Don't see why we should move just yet, since we're not at page 10 yet and we've still got plenty of images left.
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>>81816930
I think it was always like this on some level.
Now it's just... more.
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>>81816778
>It doesn't feel like they actually 'beat' the game.

Even if it were clearly spelled out in the ending, it still wouldn't feel like victory. Because everything after John and Roxy returning from Retconland felt like it had 0 stakes. And I mean for us as the audience.

We got weird doppelganger versions of our main characters, with their personalities falling into this weird uncanny valley of characterisation. They got to have some last-minute dialogue that pretty much glossed over all the subtle and ways these iterations' personalities could have differed from the original characters'. The Retcon itself wasn't explored as well as it could have been - Remember and Sprites^2 ending up being pointless stabs at the possible implications of it.

And we ended up with visually spectacular, but ultimately unsatisfying battle sequence that went exactly as we'd been told it would and an ending we already knew would happen, just not the particulars.

It was at most "Eh, I'll take it." and at worst extremely unsatisfying.
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>>81816977
I think it's mostly because we are all disappointed by an ending that seems so forced.
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>>81816930
It will pass, anon. It will pass...
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>>81817018
Personally, I'm glad that the comic had full-length boss battles for them. It's nice to see what the characters are capable of in combat.

Also, we got to find out what Fraymotifs are.
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>>81817446
But was it so hard to do a last battle with LE?
Just to clearly know what happened to him.
I think IF Hussie would have done this, we would have been happier.
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>>81813404

Nearly spat out my drink reading that filename.
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