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The other threads died so here's a new one.

After seven years, Homestuck has finally ended with Act 7.
Love it or hate it, we've reached the conclusion of a long, long journey.
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>ended
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Let it go
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>>81773048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG7jKUHsLfY
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Good night, Homestuck, but not goodbye. I'll keep loving you regardless.
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>>81773048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb4P-MZMzJs

Think of the good times
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sorry this is all i can manage at this level of inebriation
goodnight folks. its been real
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I don't understand. What happened to Lord English?
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Does that mean you people will finally stop making threads about it, or are we stuck with it forever?
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*claps n gigles @ the ending*
congatlurations! congraluations!
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>>81773216
Expect a week or so of outrage and confusion mingled with half-assed explanations.
The ending is considered pretty weak by many. Lots of stuff is left for interpretation rather than shown on screen.
After that, HS should fade away until details on the epilogue or Hiveswap are released at least.
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>>81773213
CTT: Are the feet supposed to be butts as well?
goodn8
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>>81773213
This is fucking fantastic. Good work again.
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>>81773216

Stuck with it until Hiveswap is over, in about 4 years.
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>>81773048
I actually liked act 7. I thought it was a satisfying resolution to the biggest threads, i.e. the creation of the universe, the defeat of LE, etc., and all in a very MSPA way. I think the biggest problem is that act 6 was such a god damn clusterfuck in terms of its handling of characters and plot threads. I think if it had been properly built up to, Act 7, completely unchanged, could have been a great ending. Hussie said he'd thought of the general idea of the ending a long time ago, and it showed, the feel of it definitely hearkened back to simpler homestuck, and I think its act 6's fault for turning it into a garbled mess that couldn't be saved. That said the ending didn't work at all for what the story became.
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RIP homestuck
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last threads didn't have homestuck in the op:
>>81764583
>>81768813

thread where update hit: >>81761509
threads prior (in reverse order): >>81759525 >>81756691 >>81745844 >>81745797 >>81739600 >>81733568 >>81727540 >>81720638 >>81714961 >>81707593 >>81702557 >>81683549 >>81675947
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>>81773213
Thank you Chaz, you're doing god's work
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i forgot roxykitten

>>81773285
yes
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>>81773325
Rose was to busy not having a character arc, because those aren't a thing remember, and getting bullied by vriska into not becoming a drunk somehow, to bother dealing with her quest despite it being shown time and time again that the Reward outweighs the risk, is a battle for EXISTENCE AND REALITY itself
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>>81773324
that was stitch repairing LE's backup coat. everytime LE time jumps or disrupts causality a rip in spacetime appears on it
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>>81773213
*doesnt want dady 2 go away*
*crys so much*
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>>81773213
You did good, Chaz. Sweet dreams.

>>81773299
LE's defeat wasn't even shown on-screen and people had to guess at what happened to him, that's the polar opposite of satisfying.
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>slick never got the band back together
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At least we got some good erotic fanfiction out of it.

I discovered my nascent fetish for fucking a best friend years ago due to some Nep x Eq stuff
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>>81773299
I'm fine with most of it, I really am.
But I have a huge problem with the defeat of Lord English occurring off camera, to be inferred rather than shown.
A universe-destroying reality-consuming time god overlord superboss should not be defeated off camera.
When you spend so god damned long building up that tower, you have to bring it down in a spectacle.
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>>81773356
Oh, how'd you feel about the update? Can... can I take your advanced inebriation as an answer
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So now that this farce is over, will /co/ return to Gunnerkrigg Court?
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Alright, here's what I want to know:
Why did Hussie largely stop using command prompts and the Narrator? Yeah, in-universe Caliborn locked him out, but I mean as a decision for the comic. I think that put a bunch of unnecessary limitations on him that hurt late Act 6, where he really needed to be on his game.
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>>81773374
>slick who never actually murdered anyone got Daoots
>slick who slaughtered the Bkids Skia gets to fuck mspaint till the end of time

Literally what the fuck
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Is that so?
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>>81773404
What do you mean by return to? There's a Gunnerkrigg thread every time there's an update.
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>>81773412
>Iconic titles for every update in the past
>Changed to ==> for everything
Just sad
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>>81773425
Holy shit this is one thing I have not missed
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>>81773048
Technically, we still have an epilogue to 'look forward to'.
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>>81773485
Yep! Can't wait! Now to set my timer for three years from now and we'll all be good.
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>>81773485
>epilogue
>implying it won't be just GCTavsprite waking up and then crying over his shitty existence
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>>81773048
LOL you know it is getting ready for a massive reboot?

I know several artist hired on full time for this.
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What a shitty ending. Ah well, one last time, who ARADIA here
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>>81773423
>never actually murdered anyone
not for lack of trying
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>>81773504
>not xamag
>not skeptic
Whos left? papers? Ikamaru?
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FIRST COMIC: Animals
SECOND COMIC: Rap
THIRD COMIC: Detectives
FOURTH COMIC: Children

Anyone else seeing a pattern here? I think it's obvious what Hussie's next project will be.
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>>81773513
I lost that image to time.
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THIS IS FUCKING WONDERFUL

ETERNAL KEKOLDING AND BEING JADE AND DAVE'S BUTTMONKEY

THIS IS HOW I PICTURED THIS CHARACTER

THANKS, HUSSIE
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>>81773531
You missed out neon ice cream headache, and a lot of other TSO comics in general, humanimals is not the be all and end all. Even if I wish it was
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Watching people in denial about the ending is like seeing people's reaction to MGSV's ending all over again.

>It...it's just a ruse guys...
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Well, at least Gamzee never got out of the fridge. And in the end, isn't that what really matters?
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>>81773561
Karkat was irrelevant to the end.
The only thing in the entire story he managed to do (other than vomit out all caps exposition) was fail to make a frog right and dunk on a harmless leprechaun.
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i dont have much to say, just wanted to see y'all off proper like

it's been pretty damn real, hsg. or what remains of it. thanks for way way more than I care to admit.

good fucking night
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>>81773568
Its practically ME3 levels of self-delusion
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>>81773356
rip

>>81773485
>one last thing five years after the game drops
can't wait
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>>81773588
Good night, Kebs. It's been tight.
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>>81773568
MGSV at least had the excuse of being literally unfinished. They wanted to make a true climax to the game that neatly wraps up the plot with Mission 51, but Konami forced them out the door.
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>>81773373
>>81773390
Yeah, I think a simple shot of him dying from the juju would've made the flash so much more satisfying. I don't even think that was meant to be ambiguous, it just seems like it was poorly conveyed.
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>>81773563
Ten page comics and other failed misadventures don't count
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>>81773597
"It's just a ruse guys it's Caliborn playing a trick on everyone" is the new indoctrination theory
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>>81773531
You missed out on Whistles you fuck
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>>81773618
>failed misadventures
I guess that includes whistles then.

shiiiiit
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So let me get this straight.

At some point in Caliborn's timeline, presumably after the last time we saw him in Act 7 since he'd just gotten the Juju chest, he was confronted by the Alpha and Beta kids. This set of kids were NOT the alpha timeline ones, because we know the alpha timeline kids never did that. So it was another group, but their John still had the retcon powers, because that's how they got there. Caliborn sealed the souls of the first four kids in the Juju and then chucked it off into the Furthest Ring. The other four kids continued to battle him, and as far as we know Jake did the hopesplosion thing and that was it, we don't know anything else.

Cut to now, when Vriska has the chest, and opened it. It unleashed the Juju with the four beta timeline kids' souls trapped inside, and for whatever reason this then produced a big laser that... did we don't actually know what. Because we never saw it.

Do I have that right?
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so much fucking emotion from that. i thought it was amazing and perfect honestly. insofar as anything about homestuck is perfect. the whole comic is a huge fucking mess. like a 10,000 piece puzzle. the ending wasnt finishing the puzzle, it was putting in the piece that lets you finally see what the picture was
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>>81773214
He got sucked back into the void via the black hole
Later he resurfaced via Cal into Jack English, but was killed for good by Dave
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So like act 7 starts with whats clearly Cali opening the book and telling the story of collide, she glosses over the fights we saw there and then we go to the lily pad and see the birth of the new universe, at this point everyone resolves to go fight english at his weakest, as a kid. They poof in with John's pwoers, the Beta Kids get stuck, while the masterpiece thing plays out. John’s retcon powers let everything ‘just werk’ so that the timeline isn’t completely fucked. We forward to vris opening the juju box against LE and the Beta kids come roaring out and we get the cliff notes of their encounter. LE gets stuck in the juju at the end, literally becomes homestuck. Everyone left alive all return to the pad and they go through the door. Then we get the quick epilogue of what everyone’s doing on their new fixed world and the last few exchanges, dave coming to to the senpai, rose & dirk, Karkat helping lead can town with the mayor.
The flash ends with caliope closing the book and someone asking her to read it again, she does so and we get the loop to page 1.

Hows that
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>>81773665
How in any form did the ending provide any answers to a single fucking thing? How the fuck is it perfect?

Go fuck yourself.
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>>81773652
Yep.
Where those iterations of the kids came from is unknown.
Where they went after Dirk did the soul draining thing is also unknown.
They are mystery heroes, stepped out of a shadow, a timeline that doesn't exist. Their actions allowed Lord English to be, but also apparently laid the foundations for Lord English to cease, supposedly, since it was off camera and all that.
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>>81773214
Remember Caliborn's extremely shitty stint on controlling the site?

It outlines it there when the kids use John's ghost bullshit powers to teleport back to Caliborn and try to fight him before he turns into Lord English.

Instead, he whips out his Juju and it sucks in the four main kids, although it is now a weapon that can be used against him, and so he banishes it to the void, and guess where Vriska found what.

Following the kids being sucked into the juju and banished, some shit goes down between the Side B kids and Caliborn + Arquiusprite get banished into the Lil Cal doll, then sent to the void thanks to Roxy.

Now that Vriska has opened the juju, it's time for the main four to come out and lay the smackdown on Lord English now that his power's been reduced thanks to the Green Sun no longer being an issue. In particular, Dave's shitty welsh sword is the most potent weapon against Lord English's invulnerability/immortality now that his clock is no longer active, seeing as it was technically made with the cue ball from Caliborn's clock weight and possesses knowledge within it - particularly, knowledge of Caliborn's karma and death judgment.
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>>81773652
>At some point in Caliborn's timeline, presumably after the last time we saw him in Act 7 since he'd just gotten the Juju chest, he was confronted by the Alpha and Beta kids. This set of kids were NOT the alpha timeline ones, because we know the alpha timeline kids never did that. So it was another group, but their John still had the retcon powers, because that's how they got there. Caliborn sealed the souls of the first four kids in the Juju and then chucked it off into the Furthest Ring. The other four kids continued to battle him, and as far as we know Jake did the hopesplosion thing and that was it, we don't know anything else.
No. They attack after being in the new session for awhile.
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>>81773358
HEY GUISE
THAT SURE WAS GREAT WHEN ROSE PLAYED THE RAIN RIGHT?
REMEMBER THAT PART
IT WAS STARTLING AND SATISFYING
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i just want to know how kanaya lit her forge :(
this is the closest thing to a sad kanaya i have on this computer
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This was all I could think to do, really.
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What the fuck was that?
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>>81773641
He did a whole book and a half of it, it should well enough count

>>81773652
Yeah, the ULTIMATE MASTERPIECE came out of thin air and is never accounted for and it presumably happened in the main timeline but we haven't seen it and Lord English was never shown to be defeated and this comic is a farce

>>81773665
And the picture was Hussie flipping us off because this ending was garbage that didn't explain or resolve anything and we've wasted 7 years of our fucking lives on nothing
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>>81773728
It's nice
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>>81773728
Its nice, it invokes a melancholy feel.
Good stuff Noot
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>>81773728
You didn't have to do anything because we should probably just leave this comic to rot but it's appreciated and nice nonetheless
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>>81773731
It was Homestuck.
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>>81773755
Nothing was answered or resolved in a satisfying way
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Shit, these threads make me want to read HS, but I've heard that it takes weeks to read through. And if I'm going to spend that much time on reading, there's better stuff I could read.
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I feel entirely vindicated in not staying up till 5 am to watch that bullshit
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>neither [S] Collide nor Act 7 were in any way as interesting, satisfying, or even musically complex as [S] Cascade
I guess Hussie really wasn't lying.
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>>81773761
We're all grieving here anon
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>>81773048
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I'm so glad Homestuck ended doing what it did best: being vague and confusing and angering everyone who read it.
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I don't even understand what happened in it or why
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>>81773766
Are we sure Aradia died? She was just starting at the black hole, she could've left.
Fucking off camera unexplained bullshit.
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>>81773771
Collide was okay for different reasons
But fuck did hussie waste our time with act 7
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>>81773765
>there's better stuff I could read.
not really no
unless you mean like actual literature
the first five acts of homestuck are the best the internet has to offer
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>>81773765
It takes awhile but the earlier stuff is really, really, quaint.
If you're a lore fag, even with the ending the way it is (narratively unsatisfying initially) you'd still get a lot out of it.
The rage has washed over me. I don't think it's all that bad after reading interviews and hearing what he wanted to provide with the ending.

In fact, with you going in knowing there's no massive typical cresendo and wrap up you'd have even more fun.
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>>81773761
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The more I think about it in order to accept it, the more I cannot accept it. Just. I can't. This ending wasn't on the line of the comic at all. Like if you finished the topping on a chocolate cake with tomato sauce. It doesn't feel right to me. So fucking dissapointing.
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>>81773694
its fuckin homestuck man, it dies as it lived. if you think it should have showed everything in order you're in total denial as to what the comic was. you have some picture of what you wanted it to be but it wasnt that and also youre picture is shit and kill yourself

lord english's story is shown in full, we know what happens next, we know how he was created and how he dies, and more importantly we've seen sburb completed after all this time. a healthy universe has been made and the cycle is gonna continue.

also the tune was fucking good and rose and kanaya chilling together made me feel warm. good shit
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>>81773792
That's our Vriska
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>>81773795
Remember homestuck was a community project and so hussie is just giving back to the community by allowing everyone to have their own interpretation
Sure hes going to be doing a 'real epilouge', which act 7 was supposed to be, after the pure tidal wave of shit hit the fan
But yeah, its all your headcanon brah
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OH SHIT
UPDATE
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WHAT THE FUCK
UPDATE
NOT A DRILL
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>>81773795
I'm not going to tick it if it didn't happen on screen same way I'm not ticking Davekat for sunk even though it remained unconfirmed
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>>81773772
I'm not. I'm gonna sleep sound tonight knowing that I can finally check another story off the list.

Man, I haven't checked Naruto or Bleach in a while. I'm in much the same boat with them - got too far before regretting it, and now there's the burning need to know how it ends before I can put it down.

I think one of them was supposed to have ended recently? Maybe it was Bleach. Gotta check.

>>81773765
Do yourself a favour and read Problem Sleuth.
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vriska's two foot thigh gap tho
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>>81773766
Come on now. It's fucking nothing, but it's not shit.
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i dont get why people are confused as to what happened to LE and the game,
caliborn explains it all in homosuck with his shitty clay figures
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>>81773819
>lord english's story is shown in full, we know what happens next, we know how he was created and how he dies,
No how he dies wasn't clear at all and we don't even know where the fuck Caliborn came from
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>>81773827
I was so dissatisfied at how there wasn't some kind of "PSYCHE" after the flash and the webcomic just stops.
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>>81773827
stop
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>>81773844
It was shit in every way except production quality

And I havent come this far to marvel at the incredible art
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>>81773846
>we don't even know where the fuck Caliborn came from
We got his whole backstory with the cherubs and whatnot didnt we.
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>>81773766
Made this just after the space = lonliness convo. I'm counting homestuck ends as canon as we got our 'THE END'

1 line
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>>81773846
We know EXACTLY where Caliborn came from: He's a fucking alien in a fucking universe that was made by somebody.

How he dies is also clear:
Dave's shitty welsh sword is his only remaining weakness, due to it being forged from the remains of his clock, and Dave, along with the others, are released from the Juju by Vriska.
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>>81773795
It doesn't matter, she's going to reloop in anyway. She comes out on top because she and Sollux had a load of fun in dream bubbles before LE and Calliope wiped them out.
With the new session being cherub it will wind around again and she'll hang out and have fun in the new repopulated dream bubbles.

What happens now is irrelevant, the implication is that it will ALWAYS happen.

>inb4 but what made 'x'
Irrelevant, it exists because it exists, it makes itself because it was made by the last session and it will exist again because it will make a new session.
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>>81773868
Who made the cherubs and why did they show up on earth and when did Gamzee get involved
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>>81773835
It was naruto, it was okay. Shit goes off the rails around Pain bringing the Pain to leaf village. It was a fun ride though, it also had a fucking ending unlike homestuck.

>>81773845
>caliborn explains it all in homosuck with his shitty clay figures
Yeah that true, but when do the 8 kids and no trolls go to have this fight? How does this fight occur with the b kids trapped in the juju for 'X' amount of time?
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>>81773866
i mean
okay im not gonna diss homestuck the anime it was great
but it wasnt homestuck
i dont like it
a huge part of homestuck was the guest art making it so its one artist that isnt hussie makes it feel wrong
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>>81773886
That's like asking who made the trolls and who made the humans.

They just fucking exist man.
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>>81773899
>and who made the humans
Yeah, about that...
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So, um, this was it? Wow. Holy crap. This is... ridiculously empty and unresolved. I sure hope there will be something else.
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>karkat never did the bloody thing
i want to die
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>>81773892
>Yeah that true, but when do the 8 kids and no trolls go to have this fight?
After the trolls that got into the new session die. It clearly states in the master piece that the look like they had been preparing for a long time and are eager to fight him.
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>>81773899
Except we know who made the humans, it's a major plot point
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>>81773899

But we know who did those things. It was John and Karkat.

Not the species as a whole, but we know who made the ones we saw.
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>>81773899
>who made the humans
uh
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>have a good nights sleep
>wake up to this
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>>81773899
The squids made the trolls
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>>81773886
>Who made the cherubs and why did they show up on earth
They're space aliens. They're not made by anyone (except their parents), they just exist as part of the setting. Two of them had a child on earth because they wanted to and it was a nearby planet. This is background data. It is not important who or why.
>and when did Gamzee get involved
The dark carnival isn't going to get an explanation. How, again, doesn't matter, only that it did.
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>>81773912

Then what happened to their souls after the big laser beam? And what happened to the Alpha kids?
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>>81773925
>The dark carnival isn't going to get an explanation
uHHH
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>dedicate massive swaths of the comic to stupid relationship bullshit
>final update
>"eeeeehhh it's open to interpretation"

>>81773819
The picture of what I wanted it to be was like... Descend or Cascade 2, mostly drawn by Hussie, then an Alterniabound-style walkaround to wrap up all the relationships and to set up the impending character, THEN the last 5 seconds of the flash we got, and MAYBE a slideshow epilogue showing them in Can Town doing fun shit they actually do instead of fucking soccer and picnics. You know, shit similar to shit Hussie made in the past that was interesting and satisfying and he could definitely do again but with current comic events?

And no, we didn't know how he'd die, and the comic didn't SHOW how he died, it gently implied it at best and people are still picking up the pieces and details after the fact, and we have no idea when the events of Caliborn's Ultimate Masterpiece are because it sure didn't seem like this timeline, and IF IT WAS then we have no idea what happened to any of the kids afterward. We didn't even see them open the fucking door to the new universe which I guess we could have predicted but it doesn't make it any better

All this update had going for it was pretty art because the story was less than nothing
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>>81773906
>Yeah, about that...
You acting clever makes you look more retarded. It was clearly circular logic that made the humans, they are because they were and they were because they had been. Although the process is different the same is true of all races.
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I only have one question after all of it

If you can have sprite^2, why didn't one form when Davebirdsprite was fucking Jadedogsprite?
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>>81773892
ACT 7 -> Kids go live in their universe -> all their friends die of old age -> John zaps them into the claymation masterpiece, they fight Caliborn -> B1 kids get trapped in the juju, Caliborn banishes it into the ring -> Vriska find it, releases B1 kids -> they defeat a depowered LE for good
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>>81773892
>when
Doesn't matter, John's got fucking timespace bullshit powers. Probably sometime after they settle into the new universe and finish the personal quests on their planets.

>gamzee
The shitty fucking clown was always involved.

>>81773906
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>>81773917
>>81773918
>>81773922
Point still stands even if I forgot that particular detail. They all existed as a matter of course for a new universe.
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>>81773912
Okay why would they think or even know to go back to fuck with caliborn if they already beat him using the juju?
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Someone please tell me the entire internet is trolling me by >implying it's actually over.
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So what was the point of the noble circle of horrorterrors?
Lord English slaughtering them was irrelevant?
I guess they really were evil?
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>>81773930
Given that John fucked off and they retconed in from the past?
Given that they were already in the cherb session anyway?

Same shit they were already doing.
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>>81773937
>It was clearly circular logic that made the humans
No, it was clearly the trolls who created humanity.
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>>81773948
Lovecraft references
Yes
Didn't matter
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>>81773933
I don't believe it was ever clarified how he skips around sessions to show up in Alpha and Caliborn worlds.
I don't believe it matters, either. He is a tricky clown alien.
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>>81773946
They didn't, Vriska did.
Besides they are in the cherub session anyway, they were bound to encounter him. I'd say Rose helped understand what was going on but even that explanation isn't required given the circumstance.
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>>81773946
because they have to beat caliborn to make lord english who sets everything into motion

they have two seers so they probably know what they have to do
>>
what happened to noir

what happened to vriska

exactly how many of our main protagonists ever even saw the final villain as an adult, much less ever confronted him
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>>81773935
Pardon, impending character futures, like the Mayor planning Can Town but also showing that the kids and trolls have interests and motivation and not just chilling in grass
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>>81773947
I'm sorry, lad.

This is it.
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Let's make a list of shit that doesn't matter

Ill start:
Karkat
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>>81773948
They dwell in the furthest ring and serve as derse dreamers' equivalent of the prospit clouds. LE slaughtered them by collateral damage, they didn't want to be slaughtered, so they asked Rose for help.
I really don't see what's unclear about any of that.
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>>81773953
and humanity that made the cherub session.
LE who fucked with the troll session to get to the human session that would create the cherub session.
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>>81773947
Act 8 is coming and you can't stop it.
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>>81773980
DD
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>>81773362
No, that only happens in non-closed time loops, like Eggs and Biscuits with their antics. Die seems to bypass this by virtue of his juju apparently not causing any such tears. Lord English is fine since all his time loops are arranged properly.
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>>81773980
Slick
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>>81773940
They were both double-prototyped. Rosesprite wasn't and Tavrossprite wasn't so they could be prototyped with another sprite. There are a lot of questions left in this comic but that is not one of them.
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>>81773980
Horrorterrors
Any of the sprites (they weren't even shown unlike Karkat)
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>>81773941
-> John zaps them back to the other four kids they got separated from, then go back to their universe
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>>81773980

Calliope being revived.

That sure is a ring of revival and immortality that got wasted on somebody who contributed nothing.
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>>81773980
None of this matters
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>>81773996
Nah that's the only one left

Thanks, now all the questions are answered
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>>81773974
>what happened to vriska
Fucked by the black hole rift like the rest of Dream Bubbles.
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>>81773383
Give me all the Nep x Eq stuff you have, anon. I'm in the mood for some pales with benefits.
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>>81773846
caliborn is born on earth in the new universe trillions of years in the future. lord english dies at the end of all space and time after the green sun is destroyed and the beta kids come out of the house juju. in the end all creation conspired to create and destroy him

the bittersweet part is knowing that despite the happy ending this stuff is still gonna happen. years and years later the eight god kids are gonna have to get together for this battle as we saw in a6a6a5 and theyre gonna have the shit kicked out of them and get trapped forever in the house. they didnt stop it happening, its completely inevitable. but in the end they'll come out and destroy him. all this stuff has already been exposited. if you dont remember thats fine but if youve read the comic recently and dont understand this stuff i dunno what to say.
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>>81773993
Good point, I misremembered what events cause it, but the point stands.
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Soooooooo
maybe I'm super slow, didn't notice it.

But did anyone ever explain the makers of sburb and how all of this is even possible?

Like in a universal aspect for both the troll and humans to have a copy of a game that allows them to do all this in the first place?
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>>81773980
90% of characters, plot points, etc.
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>>81773999
OR
They all die in the collapse of Paradox Space.
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>>81773980
The Alpha kids.
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>>81773739
>>81773748
I'm glad, because melancholy is all I can feel atm.
>>81773749
At least if I show it off here, someone will see it.
I only have 200 followers on tumblr, so... At least you guys can appreciate it.
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>reading the thread where the update hit

i wish i hadn't had shit to do this morning so i could have stayed awake for it
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Why is Karkat worse than fucking Vriska now?

How do you fucking achieve that?
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>>81774017
no definitive point of creation. it just is. every good civilization will extract the same code from some ruins, and when it is ran, their sburb equivalent begins.

it's just a causal paradox
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>>81774017
Obviously not, and I didn't expect any of that either. The universe is the universe, that's just how it works.
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>>81773999
No, that would fuck the loop
It's this
>>81774026
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>>81774017
There a couple lines talking about how and why the game was made, can't remember when.
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>>81773980
Kurloz and his coat of many colors.
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>>81773980
homestuck
:(
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>>81774011
Sorry mate it has been multiple years since I've looked at HS ero

I only came back for the end
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>>81773980
All trolls except the patron trolls, meenah seriously wasn't needed. Like now that I think about it, what was her point/goal? to die to le? to beat him? to fade away in the bubbles after LE gets reckt?
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>>81774038
dude 200 followers is more than the 55 people ITT
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>>81773048
What's a Homestuck?
How does it end?
I don't care to read it myself so spoil.
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>>81774017
Circular logic f//am, trolls/cherubs/humans have no reason to exist either other than the fact someone creates them.
SBURB exists because a session of sburb made the universe
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>>81774047
How does that fuck the loop? All they gotta do is go back after Lil Cal was sent into the void.
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>>81773999
>>81774026

yeah this is definitely the one thing that has not been answered. i guess i dont want to know the answer? i think the universe just ends after lord english is defeated honestly. like how the green sun was created at the beginning of all time, it was destroyed at the end of all time
>>
It's pretty obvious that Hussie just got tired of Homestuck.
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>>81773980
Vriska

Even fucking pre-retcon Vriska could take over her job and nothing would change.
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>>81774016
Yeah, I just wanted to chime in on that point.

>>81774055
Damn it. Only the smut is the most worthwhile thing left in this fandom, damn it. It's almost impossible to taint it.
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>>81774069
Not with a bang, not with a whimper, but with a simple, quiet needle drop.
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>>81774069
Its an anime about kids and creation myths. It's about 8000 pages and most of it is memetic recursion.
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>>81774068
Considering most are russian porn bots or offline bruh, that can be debated.
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>>81774047
How would that fuck up the loop.

>>81774069
It's a really long webcomic where lots of shit happens. It ends with a gorgeous nine minute animation that leaves huge swathes of said shit unaddressed or ambiguous.
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>>81774069
A comic about some green dude that decides he hates his ghost sister from a parallel universe so he bites off his leg and breaks a clock.

it ends without resolution.
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>>81774069
Nobody knows.
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>Karkat, Kanaya, and Terezi aren't god tier and they're going to die while their friends live on eternally
>Vriska's probably already dead (either heroic or black hole), Sollux is probably 1/2x dead (black hole), Aradia is probably dead (not heroic because she's nowhere near the fight but black hole might trump god tier), ghost army is probably double-dead (via black hole)

Holy shit did Hussie imply all the trolls fucking dying off

Barring potential immortality for sprites, in which case the only saved trolls are Nepeta and Tavros
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>>81774072
>dodging the wordfilter
shit taste, baka desu senpai
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>>81774073
Beforus->Alternia->B1->B2->Cherubs->Beforus
LE dies in B2. Caliope rinses out all the residual ghosts and shit in PS in B2.
Calli rises in Cherubs and is confronted by B2 survivors. Is sealed and LE.
LE fucks with all the sessions making his way to B2.
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>>81774104
We know trolls survive because caliborn's dad killed some.
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>>81774063
she existed so hussie wouldnt have to give hic a personality
same with cal and le
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>>81774104
Oh sorry also
>Gamzee possibly dead via black hole but you can't keep down the clown so who knows what the fuck happened to him, not us, not Hussie
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>>81774104
muh matriorb
muh karkat NEEDS to live
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>>81773980
Let's make a list of spinoff comics that would have been a better use of time than Homestuck

I'll start
>Midnight Crew
>Grimdark troll ancestors
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>>81774104
>>Karkat, Kanaya, and Terezi aren't god tier and they're going to die while their friends live on eternally
Jane is still around to revive them.
>>
check the archive
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>>81774063
To help give HIC a personality.
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>>81773980
all waifus
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>>81774136
>dirk and dave can use soul and time bullshit to reverse their age
yes
good
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>>81774136
Only once.
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>>81774104
There's the matriorb, though. There's probably a planet somewhere in the new universe full of them.
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>>81774069
its a fucking mystery

every possible question in the history of all time is answered and somehow we still dont know what the fuck happened or why
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>>81773819
It did not die as it live

Homestuck begins
- MS Paint adventures
- Lo-fi style allows creator to put out absurd amount of story per day
- Every detail ends up becoming somehow significant
- Is constantly subverting the players expectations
- Doesn't take itself seriously

Homestuck ends
- Is a literal anime
- Took four years to make ten plot-free minutes
- Its fucking nothing
- Takes all of our expectations and plays them perfectly straight
- Is boring, cheesy, and saccharine

Somehow in the course of seven years, Homestuck completely undid itself
>>
I get everything at this point but where the fucking masterpiece fits into the timeline.
Was it an inexplicable alternate timeline that was never hinted at? Do the kids jump forward to dead Earth when they've lived their lived to finally deal with Caliborn, since the trolls didn't come with them and they don't have immortality? Did Hussie outright forget about it?

That scene is the most important plot point in Act 6, telling us how LE was born and what the macguffin is, and it doesn't fit in anywhere.
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>>81774104
>they're going to die while their friends live on eternally
Well Terezi at least isn't going to be around for that, considering that she apparently got turned around and fell off the lily pad.
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>>81774133
Homosuck
Wizardry Herbert
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>>81774164
umm your mom
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>>81774164
>Its up to your interpretation :^)
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>>81773048
So was caliborn retconned out of existence by the juju or did it suck him in, or hinder him enough for the Green sun black hole to destroy him.In that case did both vriska and aradia get totalled by the blackhole or juju. Or will they arrive on earth millions of years later pulling a diebuster.
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>>81774136
>>81774148
You need to accept that they die for the loop to make sense.
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>>81774164
see
>>81773941
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>>81774175
>Wizardry Herbert
Did that shit matter for fucking anything worthwhile? Or was that more red herring shit?
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>>81774175
no fuck that i dont want 2016 Hussie to ruin Wizardy Herbert
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>>81773871
Did sollux even appear?
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>>81774157
>every possible question in the history of all time is answered
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>>81774104
all i ever wanted was for the trolls to die but he can't even do that right
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>Gamzee could have killed off Karkat in Act 5 Part 2
>we would have gotteb Karkat's bizarre adventures through the dreambubbles
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>>81774116
That was on regular Alternia, wasn't it? His dad is probably old as shit and potentially hops universes, cherubs are fuckin' great

>>81774154
Who cares about the future generation of trolls I'm talking about ours

>>81774136
Good point but also how long does that go for after a natural lifespan ends

Are they revived old as shit and are they immortal forever then or what


Also Eri's double dead this is the worst possible ending
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>>81774198
yeah, he appeared in collide holding ararara's hand.
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>>81774186
Or you're right. That explains why they aren't there when the kids get eaten, they're already dead of old age.
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>>81774093
Them reuniting with the others would mean there should have been two sets of them already. There wasn't. The loop is closed.
They get pocketed along with 8ball LE after long happy lives.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd_e_97t-Xc
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>>81774209
no, what the fuck?
the planet looked nothing like alternia and also got blown up
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>>81774215
They could just zap back in right where they zapped out.
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>>81774223
i-is this ironic?
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>>81774215
Thats a shitty fucking ending all things considered
It will literally just keep happening
again and again
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>>81774164
I guess it happens some time after they enter their universe. All the human players are immortal, after all. I suppose they may stop aging after a certain point too. Caliborn said they came after him after they had powered up even more with loads of "boons", so they may continue to get stronger in their new universe before finally deciding to travel to their Earth's "future" to confront Caliborn.

The only loose end here is that the B2 Kids are stuck at Caliborn's planet unless the B1 Kids were unleashed by Vriska, since only John can get them out of Caliborn's session since it's otherwise impossible for them to navigate out of the Incipisphere without someone to predict their trajectory/shoot them out into the void on a meteor in the first place.
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>>81774186
You need to accept that it doesn't need to make sense. There's no reason they couldn't have eventually fucked off somewhere else entirely. It's suggested that Lord English has annihilated many, many universes. It's not unthinkable for a few of the ones he didn't to have their own closed loops outside of the loop we know of.
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>>81774233
yeah but this time around they have the horn of eld and also john is black
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>>81774214
>kids get eaten
wot
>>
Five bucks says that whatever epilogue Hussie is planning to do later this year will show the kids teleporting to Caliborn to fight him and leaving their universe behind.
>>
>>81774233
>It will literally just keep happening
>again and again
homestuck is all about causal loops
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>>81774214
Yup. The ending DOES tie together albeit begrudgingly.

>>81774233
And? Would you say they're stuck?

>>81774226
Except they're summoned to pocket a weakened LE. If they fucked up LE would likely get away. Nah they had to finish the job.
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>>81774235
Roxy can do that.
She wasn't sleeping when she gave the ring to Calliope, remember?
>>
Problem Sleuth is still the pinnacle of Hussie's work.
>>
So will the real ending come at 6:12 or 10:25?
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>>81774242
TOP KEK
Fuck them for doing that to the gunslinger.

Fuck Stephen King for losing the notes for the original gun slinger because he's a drunk little cunt.
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>>81774251
Oh yeah, forgot she was the Void hero.
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>>81774242
Reminder Hussieliterally didn't even touch the final animation of his own comic known for it's animations

Just in case your repressed it already
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>the casino was never avenged
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Alright, I just re-watched Act 7, and there are a few things that are easy to miss that, once you catch them, make it a lot more satisfying.

LE's powers definitely DID go away when the Green Sun was destroyed- the shot after the Black Hole Calliope creates finishes destroying it and turns into what I'm going to call the Corner Pocket it cuts to LE's green aura flickering out, and his eyes stopping their flickering and rotating into 8-balls.

And when breach finally cracks, it's the Corner Pocket showing through. What happens to the guy with pool balls for eyes is a foregone conclusion. Sure, motherfucker won't die, but without space powers he's not going to be escaping that either.

They spent the last flash taking out all the other threats to the session and incarnations of the various ways LE had influenced their session- pocketing all the other balls, so to speak.

It also implies that everyone else in the dream bubbles are also Fucking Dead, but they always were anyway so who cares about them. Aradia seems pleased about it, anyway.

The Juju turning into the literal doorway that leads to a new universe implies it's either an entrance or an exit- my assumption is that Worst Troll used it to escape total annihilation, but admittedly it's the only part I'm still unsatisfied about. That and where the FUCK is Terezi.
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>>81774161
- Doesn't take itself seriously
yeah fuck off homestuck always took itself deadly seriously. its the whole point of the thing. its simultaneously played totally straight and a total joke. its a full realisation of dave's bros ultimate level of irony where you can never ever ever tell if he really means it.
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>>81774236
>there's no reason they couldn't have eventually fucked off somewhere else entirely
Except their iminent mortality and the fact that they've migrating into the cherub session complete with God tier Caliborn and shit.
But you know. Whatever implausible head canon works for you.
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>>81774258
>what is AIDS
>>
>map still not updated
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>Aradia fucking died off-screen with no fanfare but uhhhhhhhh Dirk and Jake played some fuckin' soccer
Great ending you fucking pair of lips on legs

>>81774225
Oh, my bad. Hilariously, more wasted trolls, but still irrelevant to the point I'm making about all the characters we know confirmed for death

>>81774223
Thank you so much
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>>81774264
I'm actually looking forward to the movie and seeing Elba's interpretation of Roland
but "the man fled across the desert and the black gunslinger followed" is too good to not joke about it
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Andrew "The comic is over but eventually there will be an epilogue" Hussie.
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>>81774271
>Sure, motherfucker won't die, but without space powers he's not going to be escaping that either.
No, he can navigate just fine with his Cairo Overcoat. The First Guardian powers were more to make him just more straight up powerful.
>>
>>81774300
Act 7 was the epilogue silly
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>>81774279
>imminent mortality
for the non-gods, but for the gods, wot
>>
>>81774271
did you copypaste that
don't lie now
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>>81774300
>Andrew 'Epipen Epilogue' Hussie.
>>
>>81774300
Andrew "I'm going to be smothered to death in my own home or at least get subpar returns on Hiveswap if I don't appease these angry teens" Hussie

>>81774304
We're confirmed for epilogue. Check the news post.
>>
>only 17k views for Homestucks ending
That's sad.
>>
>>81774295
That's one of my favorite panels.

>>81774304
Read the newspost.
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>>81774303
What the fuck does the coat even do?
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>>81774305
You were responding to me talking about the trolls m8.
None of the God tier Trolls made it out of Calliopes Session Wipe Extravaganza
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>>81774317
the vast majority of the fanbase are asleep. still underwhelming as fuck tho
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>>81774320
It's his ride
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>>81774320
Lets him timetravel.
>>
>>81774308
No, just made it up.

I'm not the first person to nickname it the Corner Pocket or something, I assume?
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>>81774324
I thought this was a different conversation, whoops.
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>>81774320
puts him in a sarcophagus and lets him traverse paradox space quickly and efficiently.
>>
>>81774336
dunno it just sounded like a lot of BKEW lingo
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>>81774334
>>81774333
I'm pretty sure neither of those things are true. What's your source?
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>>81774304
>>81774312
Weird I thought I remembered something about the end of 6 being the end-end and the 7 was the post-game rubdown
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>>81774320
It's what allows him to navigate in the void. It's his time traveling device, like Dave's timetables or Aradia's music boxes.

It's first use was in Lord English's revival, where it was transported from the 4th Wall in Hussie's mansion to where Lord English was in the trolls' destroyed universe, which he used to transport himself to the beginning of the universe's timeline to set to work on prepping it up for its destruction.
>>
Shit, my husband is home.

shit shit shit, do i tell him not to watch it.
>>
>>81774352
His source is literally every single flash that thing appears in.
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>>81774352
The cairo overcoat is the seizure sarcophagus dude. It travels space and time.
>>
>>81774352
the intermission

>>81774360
Distract him with boning, its not worth it at least until we have legit epilogue shit
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>>81774354
Where did it come from? Why did lord english have a mansion?

HOW WAS HUSSIE IN THE COMIC
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>>81774352
go watch intermission 2 and caliborn enter you tool
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>>81774360
Say nothing. Do not accompany him to bed tonight. He'll need time on his own after watching it for a while.
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>>81774353
Yeah Hussie said that like eight years ago. Back then Act 6 was also going to be shorter than Act 5.
>>
>>81774271
Worst troll died in the wipe just like the B1
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>>81774373
Doc Scratch's mansion. I think they just suddenly popped up in Slick's turf one day?
>>
LE was angry, Bard of Rage and angry half of Gamzee, he was a Lord of Time being omnipresent in all universes he infected, Prince of Heart he had splinters in other universes summoned by other Doc Scratches according to Scratch who never lies, and he was an Heir of Void where he ends up in the Furthest Ring with the destruction of dream bubbles, the green sun, space time leading to just a black hole literal void. If he didnt get sucked in he is trapped in the vicinity for an eternity where space and time barely exist less so with everything gone. You dont kill him, this is his bad end.
>>
>>81774303
>>81774354
You fucking idiots, he TOOK THE COAT OFF in Collide

Motherfucker needed to get his beatdown on, and he needed to do it shirtless. He was undone by a fucking wrestling trope.
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>>81774353
Yeah, that was the plan, ipgd confirmed it and everything, then Act 7 dropped and everyone fucking hated it and Hussie backtracked and said "OKAY BUT I'M ALSO MAKING AN EPILOGUE"

>>81774360
Tell him Hussie postponed the ending indefinitely, let him catch back up when the epilogue lands, no matter what it is it will be better than this oh god what was this
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>>81774367
Pretty sure it only travels through time, but that's the same thing as traveling through space in the void. I mean, it can fly around, yeah, so it does travel through space, but I don't think it can teleport around.
>>
>>81774352
the overcoat does that silly item/diifferent-item thing like from problem sleuth and all the midnight crew's weapons
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>>81774370
friend i may talk big game by saying i can fuck all night, but i do not think i can fuck until hussie delivers an epilogue
>>81774377
>>81774406
HE'S WATCHING IT OH FUCK
>>
Oh Andrei, you scamp
>>
>>81774295
Another World vector graphics like
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random tumblr teenager beating up hussie when?
>>
>>81774396

But he can materialize in any universe where Lil Cal appears

That doesn't actually DO anything
>>
>>81774410
Yeah, but he took it off to fight the trolls shirtless, like a real man does
>>
>>81774373
Hussie was in the comic because humour and as for the coat, it's an x -> z situation. You know there was a (y) step you're just not 100% on every detail, much like a few things left open. HOWEVER, they are easily within the realm of possibility. Considering it's an infinite loop their conception might be a little different each time anyway.
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>>81774406
I knew I wasnt that crazy

>>81774414
>but i do not think i can fuck until hussie delivers an epilogue
Never know till ya try
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Do I reread it now that I know what happens
I don't know if I can
>>
I hope the epilogue is Hussie marrying Vriska on a majestic white stallion..
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>>81774317
even collide had more
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>>81774405
>TOOK THE COAT OFF in Collide
he seems to be able to teleport it around. he didn't drop it on the floor or anything, though I guess without the green sun he can't retrieve it unless it's stashed in his pants or something
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So, what if the scenes we saw just before the ending weren't real? What if they were just what the kids and trolls imagined would happen -- a happy ending where everything works out in the end -- but paradox space got nuked just before they entered the door?
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>>81774406
> then Act 7 dropped and everyone fucking hated it and Hussie backtracked and said "OKAY BUT I'M ALSO MAKING AN EPILOGUE"
I wonder if he genuinely thought this was a satisfying ending or if he knew it was a big blue ball of nothing but didn't realize the anticlimax joke wasn't funny anymore and how angry everyone would be.
>>
>>81774420
Nah, pocket is a session wipe. Shit either dies or stays there. He will be reborn and he will infect more universes but he will be pocketed just as many times.
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>>81774441
Then again, what if that's really stupid and there's nothing indicating it?
>>
>>81774420
Scratch implied heavily that he's infected other universes. The one that is a danger to everyone is the one we see. Maybe its even the main LE his ULTIMATE SELF
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Okay guys I'm gonna make myself a drink

Hemlock or arsenic?
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>>81774454
There's the whole fact that the door changed into the juju
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>>81774442
More like he's disappointed he had to. After the hype and rage wears off shit is pretty capped off by the ending when you think about it, assuming you don't have some unwarranted interest in some no one side character.
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Upon re-watching you can see LE's "green sun" aura disappear before the fight. And his eyes reverting to 8-balls is for his coming death, not the army's.

Looks like Aradia did get to see how it all broke apart.


Anyways, animation was gorgeous. At first I was pretty unsatisfied, but I guess in this case the epilogue will fill those shoes.

Gonna go back to sleep and let it sink in.
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>>81774429
fuck that Ill reread problem sleuth
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>>81774442
I really want to believe that the guy who organized cascade into a coherent and followable narrative that resolves plot threads should have seen this coming.
I'm going to blame yes men that he probably inadvertently surrounded himself with as a result of the game debacle.

>>81774465
Hemlock

>>81774458
Does he infect universes or is he trapped in a time loop which is it?
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>>81774442
I bet the ending was there from the start when Hussie thought Homestuck would last a year.
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>>81774396
>>81774420
>>81774446
I'm pretty sure it's the powers he got from having the ring of void/the Heir of Void merged into him was part of why he could manifest into a new universe. Each time he's summoned, he can simply fade away into nothingness and be summoned again.

The blackhole does nothing but take away one of his sources of power. What "defeats" him will be the ultimate weapon.
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>>81774465
absinthe
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>>81774466
i thought it changed because the kids used the B1 frog
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>>81774492
He planned the ending in early act 6.
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>>81774494
He doesn't get defeated. Not ever.

Caliborn is ALWAYS in the new Cherub session. He ALWAYS fucks with the preceding sessions until he gets to B2 and he ALWAYS get's dunked on.

CLOSED LOOP.
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>>81774429
think of all the comics, books, films or episodes you could watch in that time instead. if you draw, write, think of how much you can accomplish in that time. what would be the purpose of rereading homestuck?
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>>81774498
Why did it change?
The sgrub logo didn't change.
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>>81774475
>After the hype and rage wears off shit is pretty capped off by the ending when you think about it,
Only if you buy into the whole "we're people, we don't have arcs" kool-aid. From the perspective of actual storytelling and not ~hilarious subversion~ almost none of the characters grew or learned anything in a logical way based on their initial appearance. At best, they got implied off-screen resolutions to their problems or got retconned at the last second, and Jade learned that Jade never mattered, only Meta-Jade.

Closure is usually a thing, and most stories without closure make an intentional point of portraying their characters as incapable of achieving it, rather than dropping it casually as a justification for writing fumbles.
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>>81774513
meaning literally every part of the pre-retcon storyline was a complete waste of time
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>>81774442
Horrifyingly, I think the former? Or enough effort was put into it that he didn't think it was worth it to abort.

He didn't even write the updates leading up to it or contribute art since the hiatus ended, which I keep harping on but really, he fucking abandoned his own comic. He actually abandoned us, after all that time and all those hiatuses. He's not even the head Hiveswap writer and that doesn't even have a release date on it. What the fuck has he been doing for the last 3 years other than getting swindled and, from the look of it, constantly masturbating or lifting but I'll assume the former anyway

God we went through fucking Davepeta and we got this ending I'm going to be sick

>>81774454
There's nothing that proves against it shown in the comic so I'll assume that English, who has time powers and can presumably be in multiple places at once and was never actually shown as House Trapped but rather implied, swooped in and killed all of them at the last minute.
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>>81774523
What the heck are you saying to me. So what if there's a closed loop? Caliborn's rampage as Lord English can start anywhere and end anywhere.
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>>81774526
its poetry
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Reread the masterpiece and rewatched both Collide and the ending. I think I have a better understanding of it now.

Caliborn's event happens after Act 7. The kids, presumably after their troll buddies died and they lived long lives, flash forward on Earth's timeline to where the Caliborn is and finally buckle down to fight him. They get trapped in the juju, Lil Cal becomes the vessel for LE and that starts off LE's history.

Calliope destroying the green sun visibly weakens LE, with his aura fading out, the blackhole appearing behind him and his eyes turning into 8-balls to sign his defeat. Vriska's juju is the cueball and its power blows him away, either killing him or trapping him in the void for eternity. As the dreambubbles are collapsing into the black hole a door opens on the juju at the end, probably implying that the kids and Vriska escape into it and that the juju was actually the doorway to their universe we saw on the lilypad. That or its just the kids escaping the thing and they all die together, who the fuck knows.

The basic sequence of events seems sound and probably could have made for an acceptable ending to LE's character but holy shit Hussie communicated it all poorly.
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>>81774534
>Dave never actually came out to anyone
What was the fucking point of the conversation then
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>>81774534
Not even without that. It doesn't matter what happens afterwards. It's inconsequential. History repeats.

>>81774549
No. It very specifically starts at the end of every cherub session when he is bound and ends every B2 session when he is pocketed.
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>>81774526
The SGRUB logo wasn't the result of a hodgepodge of planets from two different sessions.
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>>81774525
Yes thats true
Never touching it again
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No you guys don't understand - it's a series about failure, it's supposed to be disappointing.
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WELL AT LEAST SPIDER8ITCH IS DEAD
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>>81774576
It leaves you with your own Phantom Pain! It's intentional!
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>>81774554
>holy shit Hussie communicated it all poorly.
No he communicated it cryptically which after reading the interview is exactly how he wanted it. He knew people liked the convoluted plot. He was delivering the final performance of lore wank before he went down swinging.

Quite frankly lore pandering trumps shipping and other pointless shit.
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>>81774475
The fact that he mentions in the newspost that he'll do some manner of epilogue is pretty telling that he thought it wasn't enough

'They go into the universe and live happily ever after' could have been the new ending if other shit was dealt with appropriately, specifically LE being defeated in a proper climax and certain characters reconciling
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>>81774576
>>81774586

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySGMnmiqlss&nohtml5=False

HAPPY BIRTHDAY
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>>81774526
Look close at the juju. The changed logo is basically what the juju would look like from behind.
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>>81774554
Seriously the ending flash conveys this sort of fucking critical information really fucking poorly

>>81774561
>It's inconsequential. History repeats.
It matters to me since we're supposed to assume that everyone goes on to have their pg-13 happily ever after complete with completely resolved arcs which people don't have
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>>81773048
Man, am I glad I didn't stick around for this.
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>>81774561
>No. It very specifically starts at the end of every cherub session when he is bound and ends every B2 session when he is pocketed.
No, that's his origin. The START of his universe destroying spree can be at any time. It can be any session at any point of the "chain" of creation (accounting for sessions creating a chain of universes that end up creating the universe preceding the session in question's home universe).
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>>81774580
That would be a highlight if she didn't die in a heroic flash of glory

>Vriska defeated Lord English
>Spades died like a little bitch without even taking out Union Jack

>>81774525
I swear to you guys that I'm going to make a webcomic that is a) good and b) doesn't end anything like this

>>81774576
It's about growing up so he made it shit on purpose so all the teens that grew up on it could quit reading it in disgust and move on to better things, sufficiently disillusioned
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>Fondly remember a nice fanventure called Cordless
>Decide to reread it, even though it ended abruptly after 300 pages
>All the flashes are gone since they were hosted on different sites
>A remake of the adventure, which I didn't hear of until now, was hosted on the fucking MSPAF

God damn it.
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>>81774567
So why did the flip at the exact moment that the juju was activated?
Why does the juju have a fucking door on it, on the opposite side of the lilypad door?
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>>81774590
>he thought
He is being reactionary. Given the hesitance of that post it's also clear that he would rather fucking not, simplify it for people who won't connect the dots.
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https://youtu.be/kq6tZc2O-lQ
https://youtu.be/JX3qTAgMnC0
https://youtu.be/sKogmInb3k8

nevar forget
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>>81774611
fuck, cordless was pretty good, wasn't it?
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Now that its over I think I'm going to hunker down and read it for the first time. am I in for a ride?

How long am I looking at here?
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>>81774614
>on the opposite side of the lilypad door?
I fucking bet its a backdoor into the universe
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>>81774614
so the kids, trolls, and civvies could wwalk rigjht up to LE's face for a good dick punch before Vvris savves the day
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>>81774534
a lot of characters get closure to their 'arcs'. john does, dave and dirk do, karkat does (even if you dont like it), rose and kanaya's arcs already finished when they got together. tavros got his chance to be less than totally useless, aradia got to see everything begin and end, calliope got to live a life, caliborn got to... live a life. terezi's kind of a tragic figure and her closure is that she won't get it.

i mean there are fucking millions of characters and they cant all end up solving all their dumb neuroses and live forever happily jesus christ
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>>81774614
Everyone on the lily-pad is gonna walk out into the fight with Lord English and die to the black hole.
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>>81774629
Couple of weeks if you take it easy. A week or a tad more if you read it like a book.
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>>81774616
I don't give a shit about the mechanics. Show me the character interactions and resolutions he's been teasing since the beginning of the comic.

Actually pay something off for once, instead of pushing it offscreen or having characters not acknowledge it.
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>>81774629
Like a week or 2 with spare time.
Its a fun ride up to the end when shit starts falling apart and losing coherence. Kinda like Mass Effect
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>>81774642
But then how does earth get into the cherub session?
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>>81774614
>at the exact moment that the juju was activated
That moment doesn't even exist. There is no simultaneity between the session and the furthest ring beyond circumstantial simultaneity AKA callbacks, parallels and shit that looks similar.
>Why does the juju have a fucking door on it
Maybe because it's a house.
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>>81774525
>acting with purpose
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>>81774616
>connect the dots
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>>81774639
What was Karkats arc
And there was a lot more to Rose's character besides her relationship with Kanaya.
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>>81774575
left it behind a looong time ago, i came back for memories sakes, but even without any investment in this story i'm still dissapointed.

back in 2011, how could we have foreseen this happening? bleh, it's easier to accept if you say to yourself that homestuck was never good, but perhaps im in denial there. god i loved the midnight crew, the cherubs, the earlier acts. just focusing on any one of these aspects would have left us all with a much better, more satisfying experience.
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>literally everyone in 3 different universes fucking died: the end
BRAVO HUSSIE
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>>81774629
You're in for a ride but at the end your metaphorical rollercoaster cart is going to stop on the tracks before you reach the station so you're stuck strapped into it and you'll start to regret getting on it in the first place

Honestly, this is my favorite comic, but this ending was the worst thing that could have happened to it.

And a few weeks at best, a month or two if you really meander.
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>>81774629
Get ready to space out while reading a whole bunch of stupid boring horseshit in the later parts and realize you spaced out then have to reread the same lines over like 5 times and realize that they were never important in the first place
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>>81774639
>i mean there are fucking millions of characters and they cant all end up solving all their dumb neuroses and live forever happily jesus christ
THEN WHY DID HE MAKE A MILLION FUCKING CHARACTERS WITH NEARLY FINISHED ARCS AND NOT DELIVER ON THEM FUCKFACE

>>81774651
interpenetration
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>>81774654
How long has it been since you watched it? I needed to cool down too.
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>>81774602
Its not that family friendly when we see time speeding up so quickly. All the trolls and Dad dies to natural causes and 4 of
of the kids sacrifice themselves forever. A lot of people assume that they bust out when vriska uses the juju but they might not. Maybe using the juju is what makes all the events happen that lead to the creation of a universe LE cant reach like the cancer in the kids universe lead to the events that create Bec Noir.
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>>81774652
Leading where?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YEyuRlSieg

Me right now.
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>>81774652
No, there IS "simultaneity". It happens all the time. The creation of the Green Sun was caused by the trolls and the kids' universes exploding simultaneously in regards to how they relate to each other in the space-time of the void.

There's the even simpler example of the trolls contacting the kids across sessions.
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>>81774657
he learned 2 love
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>>81774674
BOY IF ONLY WE GOT SOME KIND OF FUCKING RESOLUTION TO THIS IMPORTANT PLOT POINT WEVE KNOWN ABOUT AT THE FUCKING FINALE
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>>81774661
Literally 3 different universes are created
BRAVO HUSSIE
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I haven't seen the flash
What happened to honk friend
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It's a perfect ending to Shitty Homestuck, if you think about it.

Unfortunately, Good Homestuck remains unfinished.
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>>81774678
Into the house.
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>>81774698

Literally got fridged
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I guess Hussie peaked with Problem Sleuth.
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>>81774670
People don't have arcs =^0
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>>81774698
schrodeingers cloun
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>>81774630
That or it creates 2 versions of the kids as they enter, with 1 version entering into their universe and the other version exiting to find themselves at the location of the final battle. Like with the meteors entering the portals into the pre and post-Scratched sessions.

It would explain why the door on the ultimate weapon is on the opposite side of where the door on the lillypad house is.
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>>81774627
I can only remember that the flashes were great, but not what was on them...

I think I'll try reading Hexane for the first time.
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>>81774698
He doesnt even show up.
Gamzee crying in the fridge is the last shot of him in Homestuck.
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>>81774698
He's not in the video.
Why not watch it? It's absolutely gorgeous if nothing else.
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>>81774698
He probably died in Collide when Jack English's head went black hole but he's a clown so who the fuck knows and this flash didn't answer anything very satisfyingly. I have no idea if 3 major characters died and I never will because Hussie is a fucking hack.
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>>81774674
Whether they did or didn't bust out the result is the same. Trapped with LE in a Juju, trapped with LE in corner pocket.
WEW LAD
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>>81774707
I hate this meme since it literally isn't true, people just lack the introspection necessary to identify that kind of shit.
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>>81774704
All he had to do is not have had Homestuck run for SEVEN YEARS.
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So after reading this thread and finally understanding the ending, I can assume Calliope literally killed everyone in existence?
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>no walkaround flash as john, talking to all the characters one last time

this hurts the most. it really does.
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>>81774711
Good
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>>81774735
Hussie just does not give a shit.
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>>81774728
It's not true. You're a retard. In life some resolutions and events happen for no reason. There will never BE a reason for them either.
You reading HS for example
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>>81774733
Probably.
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>>81774702
>>81774703
>>81774711
seriously hussie? I guess DD didn't show up either. Or Kurloz, or anybody else Hussie forgot about.
Great job
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>>81774724
Nah, the cloun was safe in a fridge, he didn't die.
But, man, that's another thing that's so fucking weird about this update. Collide kept showing Gamzee in that thing, which should be an obvious cue that he's about to become important, and then nothing happened.
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>>81774670
do you SERIOUSLY want to read another 1000 pages of every single character fixing their emotional issues HOLY SHIT come the FUCK ON

honestly even going as far as he did to wrap up peoples stories in a6a6i5 was a mistake, there was way too much fucking talking in that arc. in retrospect its clear that that was because those were supposed to be the last conversations the characters would have. i still think it was a bad decision but now i realise he was trying to make morons like you happy.
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>>81774735
What for? Closure? What would you need that for?
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>>81774733
Everyone in B2 and PS. She is essentially an anti-cluter operation. If she didn't wipe PS you'd have loop 1 dream bubbles that could interact with loop 2 players and fuck the repetition.
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>>81774756
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>>81774756
Half the flash is a frog flying. A quarter is people sitting on a planet. A quarter is Vriska walking up to LE and his eyes changing. That's the whole ending.
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>>81774768
>loop
?
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>>81774733
Don't think so, actually. The black hole obviously didn't reach the B2 session. Its effects were probably contained to the dream bubbles.
So she didn't kill everyone in existence, she just obliterated the souls of everyone left in the afterlife.
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A fun creative exercise for you all; come up with an even worse ending.

Yes, I know it's hard.
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>>81774760
"about to become important, and then nothing happened" the fucking comic, friend.
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>>81774764
>do you SERIOUSLY want to read another 1000 pages of every single character fixing their emotional issues HOLY SHIT come the FUCK ON
Yes. Take out the 1000 pages of FUCKING NOTHING and replace it with characters actually developing. I'd take that exchange in a fucking instant.
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>>81774733
Possibly. Jade spoke about how important the Green Sun is to all universes. The Green Sun's destruction may mean that no new universes can exist or be created. All universes in existence exist in the period of time the Green Sun is still intact and, by destroying the Green Sun, she has essentially closed off how many universes there can ever be. I mean, a circle practically has "infinite points" in its circumference, but from outside, we can see it has an end (from where it starts to where it closes).

If one were to think highly of Hussie, one could say Lord English was "killing" the Horrorterrors in perpetuating an endless cycle of creation while they represented the forces of death and finality, thus tipping the scales overwhelmingly to Skaia's side of creation. With the Green Sun's destruction, even if the end is infinitely far away, an end to all life and creation now "exists".
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>>81774788
Paradox cracks extent to B2 session, Genesis Frog gets destroyed before it can reach the Battlefield.

Everyone dies for no reason.
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>tfw read Homestuck for lore and jokes
>tfw Hussie wrote it for lore and jokes
Drama and shippingfags BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>81774788
"And then John woke up and it was all a dream."
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>>81774788
This ending, but without showing the new world at all.
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>>81774735
>>81774746
>>81774766
Undertale did it best.
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>1/3 of the final update is watching a well-animated tadpole swimming

fuck
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>>81774788
Lord English isn't actually defea- oh wait, he fucking wasn't, it's implied he was but we didn't fucking see it

Loops back to the first page is the only thing I can think of, or this exact flash but done in the same style as Collide instead
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>>81774804
i did too
but we didn't even get a full explanation of classes and aspects
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>>81774746
Can you really blame him though?
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>>81774801
"Worse", not "Better"

Like that's still a bad ending don't get me wrong but at least you have the tragedy aspect.
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>>81774764
>homestuck is built on a foundation of meaty dialogue
>wordless ending
fcuking genius m80
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>>81774783
Yeah
LE through cal Fuck with Beforus->Alternia->B1->B2
LE gets pocketed, Calliope wipes session
Survivors -> Cherub session
Travel into the future when prepped, B1 kids sealed B2 kids fucked up but seal calliborn into cal. REPEAT.
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>>81774748
>started reading because a girl I hooked up with at a bar recommended it
>I was at the bar since I'm an alcoholic
HRMMMM

>>81774735
Seriously, how could he have dropped the ball so hard on this, does he think this is gonna generate goodwill for hiveswap?

>>81774764
>do you SERIOUSLY want to read another 1000 pages of every single character fixing their emotional issues
WHEN THAT WHAT IVE BEEN READING THE COMIC FOR 7 FUCKING YEARS FOR, YEAH I FUCKING DO
Its called closure holy fuck dude, did you even read the same fucking comic? After the trickerster shit were hussie glossed over the characters trying to mature and then refusing to show us the fucking metor/ship meeting AND then changing everyone in the retcon so any actual issues are just completely ignored or vriska'd away,Yeah I'm fucking Salty and I would've preferred SOMETHING than the 'Chose your own ending' shit we got.
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>>81774748
Spirit Circle, which is a manga, handles it better. Random events can happen for no reason, but that doesn't mean that people don't learn something from reflecting on them (or, even if they don't reflect, there's still meaning in the life having been lived in the first place).
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>>81774812
>tfw the Homestuck game can never possibly be as good at being a Homestuck game as Undertale was, even though Undertale wasn't a Homestuck game
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>>81774826
Stable time loops don't create extra timelines you dumbass, hence "stable"
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>>81774788
>A young boy stands in his bedorom

>Boggle vacantly at shenanigans
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>>81774829
This is your ideology speaking, others would disagree. Clearly given his loop shit and all Huss gets deterministic thinking and doesn't bitch about shit that just happens.

>>81774827
>relationship of event A to event B
>arc
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>>81774833
>If Homestuck ever gets a cartoon it will never be as good at being a Homestuck cartoon as Ed, Edd n' Eddy or KND
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He took it better than I did.

I think I'm going to head to bed soon. I'm just marveling right now. I wouldn't be where I am without homestuck, or the homestuck general. I made so many friends through here, I even technically got my job I have now because of it.

The ending was shit, but I'll always have that and you guys.

Thank you.
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>>81774816
I loved that part. One of my biggest fears was that the Ultimate Alchemy would be shortchanged. Yeah, LE has been touted as a big deal since Act 5 (as opposed to the throwaway villain he was in the intermission), but SBURB has been with us since Act 1.
In fact I like pretty much everything that's in Act 7. What I don't like are the things that are not in Act 7.
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>>81774766
>What would you need that for?

to interact with the characters one last time

get to know their personal resolutions, what they're going to do with their lives now things are set right
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>>81774727
LE doesnt get trapped in the Juju, i think that much is safe to assume. I think the activation of the juju is the cause of the positive events of John retconning to make the new universe that LE cant enter but ironically was born there. The house makes those events happen and nothing else. They wouldnt have happened if Vriska didnt use the juju near him which is the only time it can be used. The good events leading to the third universe also had Jade visit altCaliope which was her signal to leave and kill the green sun. Doc Scratches can only summon the host with a green sun, heck a first guardian cant be created without a green sun. Leaves him trapped in that void.
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>>81774735
>flash comes out but every character john tries speaking to just tells him to go fuck himself
>except hussie, who hands him a horse dildo saying "you're welcome"
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>>81774839
Yes they do. You need to think of it differently. Hussie used the right imagery too.

Circles repeat perfectly forever but so do fractales and spirals. With those you are always entering a new section of the greater pattern but it is always the same and leads into, yet more of the pattern.
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>>81773373
>Eyes turn into eight-balls as Vriska Serket advances
What's there to guess at? It's pretty obvious what happens
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>>81774857
>In fact I like pretty much everything that's in Act 7. What I don't like are the things that are not in Act 7.
This sums it up for me.
Its like two or three scenes got removed because of the deadline
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Motherfucker, I just realized.
They didn't get new costumes for the bits of the new world that was shown, the variety in costumes was always one of the great things about Homestuck.
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>>81774856
Night!
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Is Act 7 actually the epilogue Hussie talked about?

Also I thought this was ending on the 16th
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>>81773652
>but their John still had the retcon powers, because that's how they got there.

That extra John that John basically told to go fuck off?
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>>81774733
Why did she use her wand to space the kids planets to her. Did she need them?
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>tfw you're Aquarius and Homestuck ended without a single likeable Aquarius character
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>>81774862
I agree, but some people argue for Juju prison. Technically it has points towards it as well even if I prefer pocketing theory.
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>>81774857
I love that it happened, and I also love Can Town, but the fact that out of the entire ending to all of Homestuck it took up so much time was really annoying. Homestuck wasn't just about Sburb, it was about the characters too, and they got super shortchanged by all this.
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>>81774785
>obliterated the souls of everyone left in the afterlife
And the beta kids who freed from the juju and fought LE.
And Vriska, Gamzee, Aradia, Sollux, the felt, LE and herself.
Karkat, Kanaya and Terezi were already long dead, maybe WV, Mspaint, Jack and PM as well (unless they're immortal), and the new troll race created by Kanaya was annihilated by Caliborn's father

I have no idea what happened to the alpha kids though
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>>81774853
Nah.

Shit happens, even if people don't learn from it. The problem with what Hussie did is that he didn't write his characters realistically. They do not react like actual people with proper thoughts and feelings. They were just mouthpieces for the agenda that has taken hold of Hussie's life. I suppose the arc here is the horrible, horrible failure of Hussie's life as an author, but as for his characters? The main protagonists of his stories? They've stopped being actual characters. With the exception of Vriska, unrepentant as she was to the end.
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>>81774907
Vriska literally got away with everything
And we have no idea for sure if she's alive or not.
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so basically the retcon was completely pointless after the ending

i thought the idea had some value to show how difficult it would be to beat their enemies. but apparently a stupid plan made by an egotist was good enough to win, or there's some other outcome we didn't get to see.

if you cut out the retcon you'd save lots of wasted space and the ending wouldn't seem so bad.
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>>81774907
>They were just mouthpieces for the agenda that has taken hold of Hussie's life.
Which is what, precisely?
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>>81774903
>I have no idea what happened to the alpha kids though
Left in the next session which is coincidently the cherub session ANYWAY. So it's no different than the current ending except they time travelled forward a bit.
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>>81774856
Thank you for being there, Noot. It's been great having you. Sweet dreams!

>>81774875
This isn't the first time his eyes have been 8-balls, they were 8 balls when he was hit by Hussie's gun and nothing came of it then, why are you guys bringing it up like it's incontrovertible proof of anything

>>81774894
Dualscar was cool. I'm in the same shitty troll/dancestor boat, though (Naptap and Reaction Gif)
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>>81774899
I figure Hussie figured that all the dialog and feelings jams and whatever before Collide took care of the characters part.
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So, basically what happened at the end was that John and the others went trough the door and came out to where Vriska and Lord English was, right?
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>>81774917
muh SJWs, obviously
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>>81774928
How do they deposit earth?
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>>81774894
i'd feel worse for scorpios honestly

at least eri got shrek
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>>81774798
>Caliborn just wanted to have some fun destroying some universes here and there
>Calliope was no-fun-allowed and just destroyed everything
So she truly was the final boss

The universe would be better off with just LE going around
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https://unofficialmspafans.bandcamp.com/track/psychedelic-psychodelic
Remember this you guys.

I remember listening to this in 2012 and hoping there'd be a Slick vs LE flash at the end of Homestuck. Or like, a 3x Jack strife flash where he wins. I remember hoping we'd get to see him do something cool even if he wasn't the one to beat LE.

Man.

I feel really stupid.
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>>81774921
>Dualscar

Did you mean "pussy who gets his shit wrecked by Mindfang and then by Juggalo Dad?"

Yeah not feelin' it
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>>81774928
PLEASE read the thread.
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>>81774928
It's mostly open to interpretation ;^)
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>>81774928
No. They went through the door, entered the new universe, built a civilization, lived there for a while, eventually confronted Caliborn, got sucked into the juju and THEN came out the door where Vriska and LE were.
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>>81774894
I love Equius. Best character, best pale relationship with benefits.
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>>81774916
I think the point of the retcon was that nobody on the meteor was actually prepared for the session. They all became inept over the three year timeskip from their personal drama.

Getting Vriska back, as awful as she was, gave them a natural leader who could whip them into shape and actually cared about the game.
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>>81774933
Yeah you're gonna have to elaborate further on that one, m8
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>>81774942
I wanted Slick to get the ring and inherit union jack's curse, then kill LE.
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>>81774942
Slick got fucking robbed its not even funny
Where-as jack gets off scotfree

>>81774956
Boy I sure wish I had a total bitch to bully my alcoholism away
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>>81774788
The same, only the art is completely mind-bogglingly stupid like it was in Cascade and Collide
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>>81774954
Do you think they died there or did they get out in time
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So Alt Calliope literally killed everyone. Cloun, The Beta kids, Vriska, LE, The Ghost Army, every single being in this fucking story.
Am I correct here?
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Just finished it.

I won't say I hate it but:

>2 minutes of it is literally a tadpole flying through the air

I was sorely underwhelmed by the ending to the point if Hussie doesn't do something after this I'd be sorely disappointed. Which goes to show anything can die if it lives long enough.
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>>81774798
I like this idea since Caliope and Caliborn were the most powerful classes representing Derse and Prospit Caliborn resents what he is supposed to do as a derse prince and rebels against the will of the dark gods who demand the destruction of everything but themselves. Caliope has to be the balancing force in the extreme opposite direction so brings about the nothingness Space demands and the creation needing an ending. Being the ultimate good to caliborns evil she has to see it through and bring the end of all.
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>>81774982
Yes.
She destroyed EVERYTHING
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>>81774974
I SURE AS FUCK WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
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>>81774984
>literal brothers
>different skin colours

Pig disgusting/10
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Just read some Moebius my lads

>The Airtight Garage
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>>81774970
Jack gets to live the rest of his one-armed life looking up into the sky at something he's genetically programmed to detest, a testament to his failure. Doesn't sound fun to me.
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>>81774982
There were loads of things that happened off screen. No one actually died but it's heavily implied.
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>>81774999
Dirk became a guido
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>>81775004
He's banging Ms. Paint though
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>>81774999
>literal brothers
read the FUCKING COMIC
JESUS
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>>81775004
He also gets Ms. Paint (who is acknowledged as attractive by the standards of their species) to ride his chitinous dick
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>>81774999
Bro is Daves dad you dumpass
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>>81775004
Well, he did think Skaia looked pretty once, didn't he?
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>>81775004
Just kill the frog with derse battleships.
It's not like there's a prospit to resist.
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>>81774788
as soon as they open the door, the whole timeline gets erased back to the start.
It turns out the ending is nothing but another one of LE shenanigans, purposefully made so that if he cant win, no one ever will. And everyone goes on and on, repeating everything forever, without explaining the purpose of this infinite purgatory.
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>>81774822
Its tragic that they create the cherub universe that is the cause if all their problems that the alpha timeline succedded and all their work still leads to LE's creation as it had to. That all non god tiers die and the main kids are aborbed by a magic artifact forever. If things were actually non tragic we would see them break out of the juju when it was used but they are actually gone.
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>>81775028
He did? Don't remember that.
Anyway, that was a Skaia without a bigass frog in it.
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Bitter ending my sweet anal prolapsed asshole. He rused us again.
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>>81775057
Just wait and let it sink in. It's get better for most. I mean, I like it now.
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How the fuck is a creature as powerful as alt Calliope even allowed to exist? Even LE wasn't that broken despite using nearly every cheat code in the game.
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As I'm reading through the original update thread it appears loads of people weren't happy with it.

Would you have waited another year worth of updates to get another ending? I would have.
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Hussie

Hussie why
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>>81775077
I would have waited 3 more years if you hadn't posted.
Fuck off
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>>81775057
If LE is well and truly destroyed (how the fuck do we know since it's off camera), it's a pretty happy ending.

>>81775077
I'd have happily waited 6 months for 10/25 if he would just animate Lord English's demise(?).
It's such a fucking travesty to not build up your villain and leave his downfall to be fucking inferred.
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>>81774788
the door doesn't lead to the new world
it's an html
everyone gets forever stuck in the Bad Dragon page
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I still have so many unanswered questions though. when do the kids attack caliborn, when do they get sealed into the house thing? What happens after the house thing is used?
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>>81775043
Oh, yep, but yeah, he thought Skaia was very pretty.

Skaia is the clouds, just so you know. He was also musing about how he wished he could see the pictures in the clouds like Prospitians could, since he was feeling rather bored and aimless.
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>>81775076
Except that he was. She killed herself to nuke a session LE can nuke sessions indefinitely if unchecked.
She's a glass cannon
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>>81775073
Remember the reaction to when Lord English was first revealed?
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>>81775076
She was powerful but trapped in her session for so long she had her denizen kill her to escape the dread a living person feels being so alone.
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>>81775091
>If LE is well and truly destroyed
He is except that he will be re summoned in the session after next.

On the bright side he will be pocketed again
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>>81775076
No, there's a difference. She created a blackhole, yes, but Lord English has causality bend to his whim.
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>>81774788
>We end on the final frame of Act 7
>Zoom out
>Reveal John sitting at his computer and taking his headphones off
>Reveal Rose, Dave, and Jade all doing the same
>John hops out of his seat, stretches, and asks his dad what's for dinner
>It was just four kids roleplaying during a video game this whole time. Seven years didn't pass, nobody met any trolls, and the universe is still intact.
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>>81775097
Oh, was it just after he'd murdered Mom and Dad?
And yeah, technically bslick squats in the transmuted Battlefield. Dunno if there's a name for that.
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>>81775091
LE is, by all means, udefeatable
they just managed to lure him into an unbreakable time loop thanks to the juju switcheroo
as for speaking, Now LE is powerless and forever floating into the absolute void that was the universe, stuck there for all eternity with nothing but himself
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>>81775108
The only thing that turned me off from original LE was his doofy rosy clown cheeks.
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plinkett voice for unanswered questions
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>>81775114
No, she didn't die to escape the "dread". She died to fulfill the purpose of overthrowing a tyrant. As a cherub, she's well suited to a lonely existence. What she wanted was meaning.

She couldn't win her session and achieve the reward of the conqueror (she attempted that first, I believe, which led to her talking about how her aspect was at a disadvantage for the trial), so she had to visit Yaldabaoth instead to get something new to do.
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>Homesick epilogue
>Cuts to a shot of Hussie cross-legged
>"Woah. That was horrible. What happened? We could have been something."
>HACKMAN: OR THE UNEXPECTED VIRTUES OF APATHY
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>>81775039
So kinda like the ending we got.
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>>81774942
>3x Jack strife flash

>tfw remembering the anticipation for Dirk in the middle of a three-way Jackoff in the Outer Rim
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>>81775121
The Battlefield is the Battlefield. Skaia is the clouds. Not sure, though, if the Battlefield is a part of Skaia when they say the "Battlefield is at the center of Skaia" or if they're 2 distinct things, now that you bring it up.
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>no sticky
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>>81775073
noooope its still shit
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>>81773871
>tfw most of what didn't happen on this bingo sheet would've been better than what we got
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wait did the dreambubbles get destroyed? is that what the black hole did?

I don't get it.
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>>81775173
>doctor strange trailer thread still hasn't broken 1000 posts
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>alt-caliborn will never be relevant
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>>81773299
This.
There were too many plot threads introduced in Act 6 that didn't get anywhere near a resolution.
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Why the FUCK would they go back to Earth instead of living it up in Bilious Slick? They literally had no attachment whatsoever to their home planet, there was no tears shed or remorse shown. All they have is fucking Can Town and John fucking stole the non-character's dad even though he himself did not fucking give half a shit about his dad dying. The Matriorb didn't even come into play, and why the everloving fuck would they LIVE IN CAN TOWN with some jackass chess-people? Why do they have to repopulate earth anyway? They're disposable NPCs serving as game mechanics for a self-propagating game that lose should typically lose their purpose the Reckoning starts, or at least their stint as exiles are up. Why did fucking Jack of all people, who probably had the highest killcount of named characters, chesspeople, and consorts get a free fucking pass and Slick, who actually aided the Trolls and built his own reputation and was the actual Jack that had a thing for Ms. Paint, was thrown in with Union Jackass? Bec Noir really outkilled fucking Lord fucking English who spent his days killing imaginary fucking people who shouldn't have continued existing in the first place. And what the FUCK WAS THE POINT OF TEREZI: REMEMBER?

Fuck I'm mad.
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>>81775179
It's*
And Nah. It ties the loops together nicely. Clarifies shit Caliborn was talking about in master piece and shit Doc was talking about in regards to LE.
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>>81775128
One LE down, 13 more from other univeres to go
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>>81775190
Game's over, they don't need to be around anymore.
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>>81775119
This is exactly the fuck you what I wanted and deserved.
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>>81773871
Missing troll repopulation
Missing causal loop
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>mfw watching that bullshit flash
Holy shit Hussie I would've prefered a generic ending compared to whatever retarded 2deep4u bullshit he was going there with.
I have zero clue as to what happened.
I wasted years of my life for this. I feel robbed. Completely and utterly robbed. Fuck you Hussie.
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>>81775203
The Earth is pretty, anon
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Like, I expected to be dissapointed by the ending, but I didn't expect it to be THIS dissapointing
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>>81775203
>Why the FUCK would they go back to Earth instead of living it up in Bilious Slick?
That's what they're doing. They brought Earth with them in there.
>Why do they have to repopulate earth anyway?
Why did Slick build Midnight City? Why were all the exiles so obsessed with civic institutions? Because it's part of their role in the game is why.
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>>81775203
>The Matriorb didn't even come into play
Except it did because caliborn's dad kills troll in the Cherub session that players exit into.
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>>81775203
Wait...
Maybe it's because they weren't actually gods because they never went through the door, and just teleported in?
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>>81775225
All style and no substance

At least sports survived the new world. Now that I think on it. Not ageing the characters up sort of doesn't even give them a "real" ending.
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>>81775207
its still shit my man
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>>81775203
>instead of living it up in Bilious Slick?
Doesn't going through the door make them gods of the new universe, and someone basically said nobody should rule over this new universe, it should just exist in peace?
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>>81775250
>no substance
Fuck off Redwood. If you didn't understand it, close the tab and walk away. While it didn't hit the narrative notes it needed to it has plenty of substance, assuming you're not blind.
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>>81775272
There is no defending this ending.
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>>81775203
They put the earth in the new session and live on it. Yeah they barely gave a shit about the human race but earth still has a livable atmosphere and stuff to grub on. The trolls found out that exiles are supposed to re-seed the planet left behind. Thats why sburb leaves a bunch of equipment. The trolls repopulated. We saw Caliborn's dad kill some trolls in the new universe.
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So wait...
DID THEY KILL LORD ENGLISH OR NOT??
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>>81775272
>>81775207
>>81775073
andrew please.... please don't make this any worse
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Wait, I'm confused. In the end what actually got destroyed together with the Green Sun? Only 3 universes (trolls, kids, cherubs)? Or the entire furthest ring and every fucking universe within it?

I sure hope it isn't the latter, otherwise this is the worst ending I've ever seen.
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>>81775190
It destroyed the Green Sun. I presume that it was the Green Sun's destruction which caused Paradox Space to begin breaking apart; there has gotta be ramifications for the Green Sun getting destroyed, after all. Here are my thoughts on the matter
>>81774798
Destroying the Green Sun destroyed Paradox Space, basically. I guess Lord English would be fine if he just faded away from existence and allowed himself to be summoned again in some different universe within the "loop" of creation, but that's why the ultimate weapon is there: to put a permanent end to his rampage as well.
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>>81775287
read >>81775128
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BUT WHEN DO THE KIDS FIGHT CALIBORN AND GET SUCKED INTO THE JUJU.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE KIDS AFTER THAT

DO THEY GET FREED?

WHAT ABOUT DAVE BEING FATED TO BEAT LORD ENGLISH?

ARGH
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Homestuck: The Movie when?
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>>81775302
I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THIS
ID RATHER HAVE THE BIGGEST ASSPULL EVER THAN HIM JUST FIGHTING FOR THE REST OF EXISTENCE
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>>81775294
the whole fucking universe got nuked into oblivion
now there's a new universe made by the kids
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GUYS
REMINDER THAT PROBLEM SLEUTH HAD A DISAPPOINTING ENDING BUT GOT A SATISFYING EPILOGUE A WEEK AFTER
so we have to hope same happens to homestuck or i'll j u s t
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Epilogue when?
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>>81775310
READ THE THREAD
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Why do people say this was worse than Evangelion's original ending? I found that pretty memorable and heart-warming. Homestuck's ending was just bland and abrupt.
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We really needed something like one of these with Alternia playing over it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXbNVua9UU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhsGHCYS400
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>>81775310
They fight Caliborn at some point after civilization on the new old Earth has fallen again.
They then get sucked into the juju and fight LE again when Vriska lets them out.
Dave already beat LE once, but you can assume he's important again.
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>>81775323
he aint fighting
he's alone
absolutely alone
there's nothing but him in the void, because everything else got disintegrated by the green black hole
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>>81775250
>playing football

???
why
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>>81775310
My headcanon is that the ultimate weapon unleashes the kids' souls into 1 SUPERGOD to do battle with Lord English at the end of all existence in the land of death and dreams. Does that work for you, babe?
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>>81775323
That's it mane, we recurring timelines now.
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>>81775359
because soccer is gay
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>>81775332
The feeling I got was the new universe overwrites the space/time where the green sun was.
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>>81775351
Except that he'll be summoned when Calliborn is sealed in the next session and little cals the session after that.

>>81775359
Because what's gayer than soccer
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what happened to Beta!Jack and Ms.Paint?

and I still don't get this loop with the Juju everyone's talking about
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So next week he'll reveal Homestuck 2 right?
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>>81775388
they're fucking like rabbits to repopulate
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>>81775334
>a week later
Confirmed but Hussie hasn't even started on it. Expect weeks or months.

>>81775359
Out of everything in this finale that makes me the very most mad

Do you think Hussie drew out those two playing soccer or did the artist take it on themself to draw anything remotely interesting in that last glimpse
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>>81775388
>loop
See:
>>81774826
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>>81775387
Handegg has big sweaty dudes piling on top of each other.
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>>81775406
Possibly even years.
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>>81775225
what you thought happen
>they go live peaceful on earth

what real happen
>it was all dream make by jade
>open the door
>big guy come
smash all dead and then open the door later and he die instead
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>>81774788
In-comic Hussie realizes his characters are shit and can't do anything right so he kisses Vriska before killing off everyone and fills the rest of the ending with pictures of horses and outdated horse memes.
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>>81775310

The only answer you're going to get is headcanons and guesses.
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Why is everyone acting like Hussie went full SJW? I don't understand.
>>
the shitty twist is that the ending doesn't explain anything
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>>81775413
Decades. The epilogue is published post-humously and all it says is You're Welcome
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>>81775332
>now there's a new universe made by the kids
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this new universe is still part of the Paradox Space like every other before? If altCalliope really erased the entire existence, then there's absolutely nothing left. Every frog died, along with every incipisphere, every dream bubble, the entire furthest ring and the Green Sun.

If this is what happened, then what's the point? Lord English was destroying things, but then the bitch went there and nuked literally everything? It makes no sense if that's the case.
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>>81775438
I didn't get any tones like that and I don't see any responses like that either.
People are acting like Hussie is a hack, because it was a hack ending full of vague cutaways that leave everything up to guesswork and interpretation instead of actually showing what happens and closing the book.
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I want hussies large arms to send me into a coma
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>If we skipped most of Act 6 and just established the bare minimum (kids, cherubs, ghost troll army, jujus, fraymotifs, etc) before jumping straight to Collide and the ending, everything would have been more satisfying.

This is probably the worst part.
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GUYS
WE ARE MISSING THE VITAL POINT HERE
What happened to the Gent of Piss?
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>>81775359
To show that they reconciled and are officially canon buttbuddies now.
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>>81775398
You know the Hiveswap development has been a thing for more than 2 years, right?
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>>81775459
Most likely destroyed.
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we never learned the name of caliborn's planet
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>>81775225
>zero clue
Time loop
Cal, doc and LE fuck with Beforus->Alternia->B1->B2
LE attacks PS in B2. Calliope wipes PS and essentially all B2 and pockets LE (along with all of PS the B1 kids and Vris/Ara/Sollux)
Kids go to new session->cherub session
Kids train up then travel into the future via John to fight caliborn-> cali seals B1 and B2 seal him into cal -> Cal, doc and LE fuck with next session-> beforus REPEAT
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>>81775406
I'm really fucking hoping the epilogue is going to be in pages. I mean, it returns to the classic format, and actually will provide more infomation in a shorter span of time in terms of creating the product. Otherwise we can get a flash? Or flash with pages? But that could take ages, and I'd still like the original (more like cascade) artwork.
I think Hussie is fucking with us around again. The weakest point of this fucking around is that he didn't have extra material to post soon after. Or does he? What if there's some weird shit popping up at the end of the day? I doubt it though
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Wasn't there an anon who had terminal cancer that wanted to see the ending?
I hope he is okay
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>>81775438
Gay characters exist in Homestuck. That's it.
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>>81775451
>If altCalliope really erased the entire existence, then there's absolutely nothing left. Every frog died, along with every incipisphere, every dream bubble, the entire furthest ring and the Green Sun.
She didn't destroy all of paradox space.
She just created a Black Hole to replace the Green Sun. It destroyed the Green Sun and the network of cracks that Lord English made that were disrupting the nature of the incipisphere, making time and space become ordered where they weren't meant to be, and returned it all to the primordial chaos.
The rest still exists, but there's no longer a Green Sun to act as a waypoint in the chaos where time doesn't flow and space doesn't move.
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Nothing extremely silly happened.
I feel betrayed.
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The entire flash was outsourced, it's like pottery
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>>81775468
but why football
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>>81775272
Anon, like I said, I won't say I hate it because at this point any ending in its finality is an iota of satisfying but while it all looked pretty there wasn't much going on.

-Calliope makes black hole
-Caliborn becomes LE
-Survivors get new home
-Vriska defeats LE

Das it mane.

>>81775359
Football is best sport.

>>81775458
Fraymotifs is probably my one of my favourite bits of the comic and it barely got used. Such a slut for team attacks.
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>>81775476
this really is the fucking evangelion of webcomics
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>>81775488
F O O TB AL,L
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>>81775359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_btRCElzV4
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>>81775469
No I mean homestuck 2
Hiveswap is homestuck 1.5
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>>81775493
Because it's gay
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>>81775451
you see it wrong
dont immagine it as a cluster of Spheres
see it like sheets of paper
every sheet is a universe, and in said universe is contained everything, paradox space comprehended
in the moment Callie nuked the universe and the paradox space, it was like making a ball of crumpled paper and throwing it in the garbage can, while the new universe was already formed in another sheet of paper, untouched by the nuke
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but is John/Roxy confirmed?
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>>81775451
She destroyed greensun and dreambubbles but the new universe still gets created on top of the fucked up void. Since the greensun no longer exists LE cant summon his way inside, his host requires a green sun to be created. The kids that escaped to the new universe house are stuck in that white home they made and better off that way. HomeStuck
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>>81775499
O M E D E T O U
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>>81775500
>>81775498
IT'S CALLED SOCCER AND IT WILL BE CALLED SOCCER IN THE NEW EARTH AS THEY'RE ALL FROM AMERICA

AMERICA: 1
EVERYONE ELSE: 0

HUSSIE DOES IT AGAIN
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Gotta admit, Rose got's got a fucking killer bod. Them hips don't quit.
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>>81775513
Please, this is my safe space. Don't bad mouth football.

>>81775516
Roxy ended up with Calliope. It's clear as day.
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>>81775485
Yeah, that's what I thought at first, but I was afraid I was just desperately trying to find some logic to explain this ending.
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>>81775190
it's up to interpretation :^)
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>>81775531
Same as Roxy.
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>>81775473
hey what ever happened with your stalker?
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>>81775524
>Jake English
>English
>Speaks Old English like a cunt
>Not calling it the footy

Did you even read all of Homestuck to cum on this conclusion's tits?

>>81775531
Did someone say thicc?
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>>81775531
Vriska's tits > Rose's hips
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>>81775459
He escaped to his own session so the scratch did not effect his incipisphere. Scratch only removes your own incipisphere and reworks the timeline so skaia gates get swapped.
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>>81775532
>shit ships
>faggot spot
>safe space
F U C K I N G L E A V E
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Somehow the ending being as it is puts me at peace. Really drives home the fact that I can move on.

See ya never faggots
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>>81774875

so what happens, dipstick
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>>81773871
Showtime played in the Act 6 animation.
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>>81775190
They did otherwise loop one bubbles could talk to loop 2 player which would fuck the sequence. Caliope resets paradox SPACE, Caliborn resets the TIME loop
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>>81775561
Soccer didn't even exist during the time of old english, check mate
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This shit has been going for so long and the plot is such a clusterfuck I barely understood any of the things that happened.
Maybe now Hussie can go back to the truly great series, Problem Sleuth.
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>>81775491
The entire finale was outsourced because Hussie's writing the game but then someone else is writing the game so Hussie's mainly just sitting there hemorrhaging money out of his ass and lifting

>>81775532
Fuck yes, someone was trying to say that Calliope was hanging out with them like she's their kid but you get the significance of a handhold

Like okay honestly in the epilogue, yeah, I'd love some ship confirmations
>you fucking asshole why would you want ship confirmations
Just to get some fucking closure on something Hussie seemed nigh-obsessed with in the comic for literal years let me live a little

>>81775481
Yeah, I think this is it for a while. I have no idea how he thought this was okay.

>>81775556
I never had a stalker. Two people from HSG had crushes on me and I ended up dating one. Is that what you're talking about?
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>>81773048
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It's time to just wash our hands of this and move on. Return to whatever you were doing during all the hiatuses. In the end, this comic does not matter.

There are better things.
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So when will Hussie reveal Homestuck was a giant intermission for the Midnight Crew series
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>>81774804
Which is exactly why the ending sucks.

There was no jokes, there was no lore. Just drama and implied shipping.
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>>81774547
>What the fuck has he been doing for the last 3 years

This keeps bugging me, what the fuck has he actually been doing??? Did the fame get to him? Something more seriois like depression? He says this ending was special for him but I just dont understand anything anymore

I need to lie down. I cant stop crying everytime I think of homestuck now
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I'm not afraid to say I didn't understand that ending. Can someone smarter explain?
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>>81775568
>people on imageboards telling other posters to leave

You amuse me greatly
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>>81775339
There's literally nothing wrong with a "Gainax Ending", this is just frustrating because it has even less substance than one and is being vague despite that being meaningless for this story.

There's no impressive self loathing to overcome, self actualization to realize or overarching metaphor about leaving the future to the children. It's just a dumb comic about dumb kids playing a dumb game.
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>>81775626
They won and lived happily ever after. The end.
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>>81775597
https://desustorage.org/co/thread/38233412/#38236598 this guy
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So...Vriska, Sollux and Aradia are dead, right?
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>>81775616
No there was a heap of LORE dickass. It tied everything nicely. The JOKE was people upset at the lack of drama and vague endings in shipping
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>>81775563
Too fat.
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Ok so the only thing I don't get is where the kids who attacked caliborn came from.
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Im in two minds about posting this since it should be really obvious from the 'is that it' reaction that there's something missing .but whatever. I didn't spend five minutes slapping this together to trash it.
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>>81775646
super fucking dead
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>>81775626
what real happen I need to it know also
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>>81775626
See
>>81775476

>>81775646
Yup, but they will be back next loop like everyone else.
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>>81773711
What the fuck? How do you remember all that?
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>>81773871
>The robots are never mentioned again

What does one even do with this information. They seemed so important Once Upon A Time.

>>81775626
GT!Calliope makes a black hole that sucks in the red(green?) sun and cuts off LE's power. Vriska (kills??) him when vulnerable. The giant tadpole with the powers of the God kids restore Earth to a better living place. Dersites and Prospitians come back to inhabit said earth. Football is alive and well.

No ship set sail without evidence of someone else going in for a potential snog. Except Calliope and Roxy. That shit is cemented.
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>>81775646
Sollux has been dead for awhile, mate.
The fate of Vriska, Aradia, and Sollux's ghost, however, is quite unclear.
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>>81775657
They're the kids in the future.
Caliborn is on Earth. They just time travel to him at some point to finally wrap up the loose ends.
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>>81775597
hussie never really confirmed ships though did he
like i expected him to handle all ships like he did karezi
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>>81775661
RIP Aradia's arc.
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>>81775657
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LE's weakness was literally a plot hole, it makes perfect sense.
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>>81775659
>that image
BREATH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FREEDOM
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>>>>>>>>>>>we still don't know what blood powers do
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>>81775680
>Sollux has been dead for awhile, mate.
I'm pretty sure Sollux was fully alive, fully blind before the retcon and half blind half ghost after.
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>>81775692
Thanks Hussie
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>>81775694
breath is air
air is wind
you cant stop nor bottle wind
wind is freedom
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YOU DID IT HUSSIE

SLAM DUNK
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>>81775646
We don't know, it's not shown.
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>>81775685
What arc?
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>>81775595
are you fucking retarded. football has been around since before henry the 8th. and i'd say jake is much younger than henry the 8th
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>>81775680

>Sollux has been dead for awhile, mate.

Sollux didn't die, he was half dead and stayed with aradia

>The fate of Vriska, Aradia, and Sollux's ghost, however, is quite unclear.

Theres no dream bubbles anymore so theres no where really for them to go
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>>81775709
Also, I like that an asshole like Caliborn's punishment was not really getting to be part of the ending.

He wanted to be part of the story so badly.
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>>81775710
>you cant...bottle wind
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I was right.
Homestuck was about nihlism all along.
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>>81775733
Pretty sure that anon was taking the piss just for the "check mate" pun
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>>81775680
They are super dead. Are you legit?
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>>81775724
The whole "dead girl becomes alive" thing she had going on.
She was fully alive and intended to stay that way. Accepting her death would be against her character. She only wanted to see the whole thing collapse, not die.
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So what was the point of Terezi remembering everything
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>>81775649
>they fixed it, happily ever after
>lore

>being so autistic that you eat up Hussie's lies
>being in such denial that you think it's all an intended joke
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>>81775753
Nah it was about determinism.
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Daily Reminder
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>>81775758
>They are super dead
Aradia was just looking at the black hole. Why assume she died, then?
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>>81775713
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>>81775769
Then why is the ending a pointless 9 minute piece of hopelessness?
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>>81775766
>lies
>he literally says it in clear writing multiple times before the finale
>doesn't say it during
>lie
Reread Caliborn's master piece retard.
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So what happened to Vriska and Aradia? Are they still alive?
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>>81775734
>Theres no dream bubbles anymore so theres no where really for them to go
But since they are alive, they can leave the dream bubbles. That is, if they didn't get sucked in the black hole, which was however implied.

Either they are alive and drifting in empty space, or dead.
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Alright I kinda get the ending. But are there any clues as to how Caliborn got the ring of void? That's a loose end.
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>>81775641
That was the dude that made the pop-punk SBAHJ fan songs. We used to be part of an HSG chatgroup. He wasn't a stalker and he was chill with it when I let him down easy. I haven't talked to him for a little while but we're on good terms, he's a nice guy.

I ended up dating a dude who voiced a Caliborn/Jane log with me inspired by a mutual love for both cherubs. He invented the "Dolorosa's long, long legs" meme and is a villain aficionado who loves English and Scratch and is generally fantastic.

>>81775682
Rosemary is extremely confirmed. I just want that for PM/WV and either Roxy ship, preferably Calliope but John's also fine.
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>>81775762
Part of seeing the end is ending with it.
She embraced being alive because it meant she could watch the ultimate death.
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>>81775786
Because that was how it was always going to be. For all the alt time lines, dream bubbles and doomselves there was no other option than what they did and how it worked out.
Cherbus machinated the whole progression of sessions and then back into itself. Scratch saw but didn't care.
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>>81775765
closure for the alternate versions of vriska and terezi
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>>81775794
We don't know. Either they are drifting in the eternal nothingness with Sollux or are deader than dead.
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>>81775773
Caliborn is alive and well! :3
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>>81775794
they're fictional characters anon they were never alive
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>>81775796
It is and it isn't, we know he got it. How it happened with calliope in early game cherub session is unclarified.
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>>81775765
So they didn't have to show her in Act 7
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>>81775806
>He invented the "Dolorosa's long, long legs" meme
i think ive seen at least 3 people claim that was them
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>>81775809
Yeah, I can see what you mean. But still, seeing Aradia go out with a bit more fanfare, or even just seeing her go out would be preferable.
Then again, the entire black hole/LE fight scene should've been shown to the end.
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Okay bitches i just wake up and everything is not even flames just ashes

Its Harry Potter all over again

At least JK had the decency to show what happen to voldemort
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All in all, this is really ODD as FUCK because the man who made something as coherent as Cascade made the last act (I wouldn't call it a real Ending for now) a nice visual experience WITH A FUCK TON OF PLOT HOLES and interpretative ending that would be a very stupid move to do
What exactly happened to LE? What's up with the Green Sun black hole after it's purpose and Aradia + Sollux? Where did all the dead fellas go???? wHAT ABOUT THE SPRITES???
WHERE IS OUR GIRL TEREZI???
IS VRISKA OK? WHAT ABOUT MATRIORB?
We didn't even get our relationships fully resolved, everything is hinted at but not canon, it's just so ambiguous - what's the real death between Karkat/Dave/Jade and Calliope/Roxy/John? Dirk and Jake did not have a on-screen live chat and if they're on good terms apparently yet status is a complete mystery. What the fuck is that football
I think Gamzee is locked like 5ever but WE STILL NEED INFO ON THAT?
Also Spades Slick my man ; - ;

We can only put all of our hope on the Epilogue now.

It feels like a Evagelion situation now, where we get the tv ending with lack of real explanation what really happened and then the movie serving as the Epilogue in this context


TOO BAD WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR A LONG TIME I BET
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>>81775806
why do you want roxy to date a dumb 11 yo skull girl
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>>81775454
>I didn't get any tones like that
Anon... Must feel nice having a selective memory. Fucking white rappers.
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>>81775787
>What is there to say about this ending? The short and funny answer is, Homestuck has finally completed its long journey over the rainbow, and become the anime it was always meant to be.
>become the anime it was always meant to be
>funny
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>>81775873
emipenises
>>
I, for one, am pissed we'll have to wait for MORE content to wrap up the loose ends. I just wanted Homestuck to end, and now it did so in a way that pissed everyone off too much and now it's "NOPE, STILL NOT DONE, YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN INDETERMINATE AMOUNT OF TIME!" Fucking shit, it's like an abusive relationship, I can't take this anymore.
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>>81775884
No I was arguing the lore isn't, in fact, happily ever after at all.
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>>81775878
Are you talking about earlier in HS? I thought we're talking about Act 7 here.
Huss did kinda cave when he binned the whole "CAUCASIAN" joke, I guess.
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>>81775872
Don't forget that Dave was the one to defeat LE, Karkat was supposed to be important as said by Echidna, and we still have no clear picture on the ring of life/void.

And what happened to the Felt? And Aurthour? And MS Paint? And Casey? And Jack?

Did Hussie seriously give Jack a good ending?
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>>81775872
After year 3 or 4 Hussie should have reread his own comic and started making sticky notes on plot holes. I feel as if he has a very "Akira Toriyama" relationship with his work insofar that he just forgot things that fans lost sleep over.

It just goes on forever and some plot lines just don't matter to you as a creator in favour of more interesting and end result content. I don't blame him. It was a pretty big project to have wrap up nicely but he could have given his fans a bit more credit than that.
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>>81775907
You're welcome.
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>>81775868
HP has nothing on this shit

imagine if the final chapter was just: and voldemort died and everyone lived happily ever after until they died

because that was Act fucking 7
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>>81775919
Yes, I want leprechaun closure.
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>>81775919
>Don't forget that Dave was the one to defeat LE
and he did off screen with the assistance of Calliope
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>>81774760
>Collide kept showing Gamzee in that thing, which should be an obvious cue that he's about to become important, and then nothing happened.

You already saw what happens to him, he takes care of caliborn
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>>81775919
Jack deserved a better ending than anyone else.
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>>81775853
Maybe all three of them were him? He has no reason no lie about it. He made another meme too but I forget which one.

>>81775873
Because I project onto Roxy and I want to date the skull girl. She's cute and smart and I love her.
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>>81775924
>happily ever after until they died
But that isn't how homestuck fucking finished.
CALIBORN'S MASTER PIECE
>caliborn's master piece

CALIBORN'S MASTER PIECE
>caliborn's master piece

CALIBORN'S MASTER PIECE
>caliborn's master piece
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>>81775637
well, real people don't have character arcs...
>>
shitpost alert WHAT IF CALIBORN'S MASTERPIECE WAS THIS ANIME ENDING BECAUSE HE LEARNED TO DRAW
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>>81775912
Well, non-act 7, but late act 6 with the whole Davepeta "what gender am I" and Dave's whole "toxic masculinity" speech felt a bit SJW-esque.
Not saying he is a SJW, but he definitely panders to those types from time to time, being that Tumblr is full of them.
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What if Hussie attempts to go very meta and continues to the epilogue through characters who "took over the MSPA website"?

One can hope, r-right?
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>>81775935
I like to think they all climbed inside the oven and were put in Jake's inventory where they traveled with him to the new universe
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>>81775919
Karkat was important. Defeating Clover resulted in two timelines. The othet timeline where Clover is victorious id the one where the 8 lods go beat up Caliborn because they cant win the session anymore, its doomed.
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>>81775958
nobody wants to fuck the creepy skeleton girl, least of all john's main squeeze.
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>>81775909
But see, none of that really matters because
>For now, I will leave you to draw your own conclusions.

There's a chance >>81775476 won't be right because he could fuck it up again, so for now all we have is what we were given.

We'll see if he actually gives a fuck or not.
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>just watched it
No way, this can't be real
This is seriously it?
This is what I've spent years waiting for?
Where are the fights?
Why did it end on a cliffhanger?
This is not okay
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>>81775951
I still can't believe Jade wanted to save Jack from getting murdered. He killed the mother and father of her best friends ffs.
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>>81775993
THIS

JOHN ROXY
>john roxy
JOHN ROXY
>john roxy
JOHN ROXY
>john roxy
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>>81775958
How would that even work? I mean biologically?
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>>81775972
wow cool interpretation pro my interpretation is that the ending fucking sucked
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>>81775987
>Defeating Clover resulted in two timelines
Are you certain this was the event that split the timelines?
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>>81775974
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>>81775985
So Spades gets the shaft and the Felt get a happy ending?
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>>81775974
I want to believe.
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>>81776010
Jade helps by scaling Roxy to 1AU to do it with the snek cali
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>>81775998
Read his interview on Act 7. He doesn't want to confirm lore, he wants his narrative jigsaw.

People have it wrong, it isn't the NGE of webcomics fucking casuals It's the Serial Experiments Lain of web comics

The epilouge will be faggot ass drama and shipping for the whiners that can't be happy with lore.
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>Boy, we sure did save the world from Caliborn didn't we. Now the universe is free from his evil.
>GUESS WHO'S BACK FUCKERS
>*Gunshots and screaming*
Remember she still has swirled cheeks
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>>81776011
Fucking reread the master piece. It isn't that fucking hard. Rereading what he says in retrospect makes things pretty clear.
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>>81773238
>congratulations!
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>>81775773
Karkat

I knew you wouldn't abandon us
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>>81775974
That's what I thought when I first saw it, expecting the second page of the update to be another flash (maybe a walkaround) that would tell things from the kids' perspective.

Maybe the epilogue fix this?
>>
So what did Aradia do again?
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>>81775974
>inb4 update isn't over and we get a second update before the date rolls over that actually doesn't suck
Never ever but I wish.
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>>81776042
>It's the Serial Experiments Lain of web comics
Wow now that you mention it, it's exactly that. NGE had a satisfying message behind its weird original ending, and EoE was made to make that message look prettier. SEL just ended.
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>>81776046
>needing two caliborns a sessions
They already have one just waiting there at the end of their new universe's time.
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>>81776042
>interview

What?
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>>81776077
Watch things break apart like she wanted to
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>>81776004
It's so straightforward yet I'm having a hard time fully grasping this myself.

I could care less about loose ends. All I want is a legitimate, no holding back throw-down with LE.
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I do hope Aradia survived. Shit, she said she was done dying.
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>>81776017
Yes, it says so in Homestuck Historia

There's actually a third timeline where Karkat dies
>>
When I say "gamer", you say "gate".
GAMER-
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>Jack Frost wasn't a thing
WORST ENDING
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>>81776140
GATE!
>>
>ACT 7 : Nothing explained
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>>81776089
SEL was God like and plebs all crack the shits because muh symbolism my non-standard plot.

>>81776100
Someone had it posted around. Basically he said he wanted the narrative to be a riddle.

>now that sounds retarded, who sees a big picture and wants to cut it into little pieces and mix it up. You want to see the whole picture not play with a jigsaw. Well the people who which their brains on will put it together and the people who switch them ALL the way on will figure all of it out.'
t. horribly summarised Hussie
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GAMER-
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>>81775919
yes YES YES
this is just ridiculous, what was he thinking?
a cute happy ending on this is fine (since we've been so attached to the world and characters of homestuck) but you don't end it up like THIS
>>
How do I live without you

I want to know

;-;
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>>81776165
gate
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>>81775993
Nice headcanon guy, didn't see your ship holding hands in the flash and until the epilogues come around that's exactly as much confirmation we're getting either way

And even if the epilogue does go John/Roxy I think it's also a good ship so I won't mind it anyway. Until then I'm going to celebrate.

>>81776010
If they really want to get down to it Calliope has a tongue and hopefully some smaller form of genitals for casual use and if she doesn't then I assume cherubs just get off once every thousand years or so and they can get creative when that time rolls around

>>81776046
Yeah too bad the comic's fucking over, that neat plotpoint sure went literally nowhere

>>81776004
There's an epilogue coming somewhere down the line but I doubt the biggest points of contention will be properly addressed.

>>81776145
>everything just gets sucked into black holes
We saw Caliborn get sucked into a black hole and it took him to his SBURB session, what are we even supposed to make of THESE black holes, god damn
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>>81776165
UPDATE
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>>81776042
>tfw all you wanted from the ending was some good laughs, cool action, and closure
>no laughs, no cool action, closure unconfirmed

>and to top it all off, more cancer
>>
When I say "gamers", you say "dead".
GAMERS-
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>all that buildup
>for the most generic, by-the-book ending possible
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>>81776130
i love you glub
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>>81776165
GREAT!
>>
After understanding the ending (that is, if the theories here are correct) it doesn't seem that terrible anymore.

Like, it's not a 1/10 now it's like a 3/10 or something.
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>>81776218
Generic would have been an all character LE brawl.
Instead you got art.
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>>81776223
I love you too anonymous
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>>81776252
Cliff hangers are even more generic.
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>>81775476
INCORRECT
This misses the 48 Squiddles session.
>>
Are the beta kids really dead after fighting LE?

Couldn't they use John's bullshit powers to go back to the cherub universe where the alpha kids are? Couldn't they also bring Aradia, Vriska and Sollux with them?

Also, RIP Meenah. You were the best ghost.
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>>81776229
Its 2/10 because a decent ending would have made these points a bit clearer instead of relying on the readers to individually infer all of this shit. Open-ended ending is the worst.

>>81776252
>could have had every character v. LE
>got Vriska and Ridiculously Complicated And Poorly Explained Plot Device v. LE plus 3 minutes of frog animation
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So which stage of grief are you on now? I just reached acceptance.
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>>81776274
But it isn't a cliff hanger. What was unexplained in the grand scheme of things.
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>>81776252
An all character LE brawl would've at least been satisfying.
Problem Sleuth was satisfying with that sort of ridiculous climax.
No Demonhead Lord English for us.
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>>81776145
shit I can't stop laughing
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>>81776285
Add in sessions as required between Cherub and trolls
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>>81776311
my grief will blankly last until the epilogue shows up
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>>81776311
I skipped most stages and went from shock to acceptance after laughing at the reactions in these threads.
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>>81776327
But that's just it PS was PS HS is HS. Did you really just want a repeat?
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>>81776311
I can't reach acceptance because it's not even dead yet, we have a vague and foreboding Final Final update or series of updates on the horizon.

>yfw epilogue act 1, epilogue 2, epilogue 3, epilogue 3 part 2....
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>>81776347
MS Paint Adventures is all about fucking repeating itself. It's an Ouroboros from the very start. There has never been a pumpkin in this room.
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These are official hsg headcanons.
>Slick's head jetpacked into the door right as it was about to close
>The Felt got into the oven and traveled with Jake
>Honk Friend went to the new universe because fuck logic he's Gamzee
>Eridan fucked Vriska after she killed LE
>Jack Noir was put in Can Town jail and got dumped by Ms. Paint after she learned what he did
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>>81776362
What about DD
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Been thinking about reading this now that it's over. Should I just abandon that idea, or give it a shot?
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EPILOGUE PREDICTIONS

>Aradia and Sollux aren't mentioned
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>>81776359
good point. It seems more recursive than repetitious though.
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>>81776382
You should wait for the epilogue update so we can make sure if its completely worth it
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Okay before everyone fulfill the suicide pact i just want so say that hsg was a wild ride and i love all of you sorta kinda
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Isn't Paradox Space the multiverse, as in EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY EXIST?
That would mean the green hole is going to reach the newly created frog eventually, right?

Or was the point of the house juju leaving Paradox Space into a completely new realm while Paradox Space including SBURB collapses?
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>>81776392
so the question is
when we loopin back to ps
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The problem with Homestuck wasn't this ending. It was what precedet it: the retcon.

It's obvious that this animation was designed with a much simpler setting: Dead Vriska and her pirate army found the juju and used it against Lord English.

But Hussie wrote himself into a corner and had Vriska to come back to life, which made everything even more convoluted. He focused on the wrong things and we got important things in a completely hamfisted way (Caliborn's masterpiece). This had an impact with the last animation, since Caliborn becoming Lord English after breaking the clock doesn't have an impact anymore.
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>>81776311
Still between anger and bargaining.
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When exactly did that happen? Were those kids an alternate version of the B1 and B2 kids we know? Or did it happen/is going to happen after EoA7?
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT6.php?s=6&p=009318
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>>81776389
It focuses on just one character, most likely John, and the fate of everybody else is just implied.
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GUYS GUYS GUYS
Thinking of the Green Sun - Calliope's black hole. Doesn't it engulf absolutely fucking everything in the end?
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>>81776382
Do you want an excellent ride full of neat characters, boring characters, exciting twists, mostly-answered questions, a whole lot of corpses, and still more characters that you want to like but struggle to build up the resolve to?

Do you mind if all that doesn't really get a very satisfactory ending?

If so, by all means. Expect it to take a while, and you may very well enjoy a great deal of it.
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>>81776418
Yes, everyone is dead.
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>>81776398
Coolcool, I'll just sit tight then.
>>81776424
If it'll take me more than a month then I'm just skipping out on it. Though, I think I could manage finishing it in like, 3 weeks. How many chapters are there?
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>>81776382
better read problem sleuth
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>>81776410
>Caliborn's masterpiece
was subtle not hamfisted. Hamfisted is in your face plenty of people who left the threads may never make the full connection there
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>>81776406
Pretty sure the black hole stops after consuming the green sun and Lord English's circle of rainbow seizure cracks. With those gone, there's nothing to measure time and space with, and everything halts in the paradox space, so the black hole can't grow any further.
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I'M MAD THAT HOMESTUCK LITERALLY BECAME "VRISKA SOLVES EVERYTHING".

SERIOUSLY.

SHE SOLVED EVERYTHING BOTH INSIDE THE GAME AND IN THE DREAM BUBBLES.

HER ARC WAS "I'M IMPORTANT AND I DO EVERYTHING RIGHT, NO COMEUPPANCE AT ALL". SHE GOT AWAY WITH BEING A BITCH TO EVERYBODY EVEN IN THIS LAST ARC.

IT'S JUST SO UNSATISFYING.
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>>81776454
why would she need comeuppance for doing everything right?
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>>81776416
It happens in the new session which is the cherub session after they prep up and use john to jump into caliborn's future
>I CAN TELL THEY ARE PSYCHED ABOUT THIS. LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN PLANNING IT, AND BIDING THEIR TIME, AND NOW THEY THINK THEY ARE STRONG ENOUGH TO OVERTAKE ME, IF ONLY BECAUSE OF THE SURPRISINGNESS OF THEIR AMBUSH. AND MAYBE THEY ARE EVEN RIGHT. MAYBE THEY COULD BEAT ME. THEY HAVE A LOT OF FIGHTING LEVELS AND MAGIC BOONS NOW, JUST LIKE ME. BUT SEE. I DON'T EVEN GIVE THEM THE CHANCE.
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>>81776438
So the New Earth never really happened?
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>>81776454
hussie legacy is that the vriska debates will never end
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>>81776454
She's Hussie's true girlfriend who ruined the comic

But haha seriously Slick never claimed his dibs and he fucking died, that was completely unnecessary. I just hope we get confirmation on Vriska dying eventually.
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Well she died. Gloriously of course because she is a troll.
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>>81776454
But Vriska is the best and everything she does is justified.
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>>81776450
>If it'll take me more than a month then I'm just skipping out on it. Though, I think I could manage finishing it in like, 3 weeks. How many chapters are there?
Depending on how much of a day you put into reading it, I'd imagine anywhere from 5 to 20 days could get you through depending on read speed, internet speed, and how fast you play through the stupid flash game segments.

Really, the story is so fragmented that it can't be described with "chapters". There are acts and intermissions but nothing decides how long those are of themselves, an entire act can be a single flash long.
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>>81776454
except she died for her little time in the sun while everyone else lived except for the B1 who lived for ages and THEN got sealed and fought LE for Vris
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>>81776454
I'm even more mad that it became "Karkat does nothing".
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>>81776454

ah but you see, anon

that's the joke! characters don't get arcs and so on

isn't it hi-larious? if you don't get it, i guess you're just missing the joke!
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>>81776487
I didn't see her die.
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Requesting a drawfag to draw dead Eridan talking to dead Feferi about their character arcs

suddenly pre-retcon dead Karkat and (Vriska) get tiggered hard and start crying while (Terezi) and (Kanaya) do their best to calm them down

Eridan and Feferi just feel sorry for them and he goes nvm.
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>>81776494
Oh, awesome. Yeah I can definitely handle that, I'll start reading after I finish up work.
Thanks for your help.
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>>81776503
We didn't see her live either.
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>>81776482
>But haha seriously Slick never claimed his dibs and he fucking died,
Honestly
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>>81776503

Okay.
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>>81776475
When exactly? Pre- or post- retcon?
Also, if that happened before the events in EoA7, how come we saw the kids' endings, if they were stuck inside the juju?
I think I'm missing something here
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>>81776499
>characters don't get arcs
That's a shitty excuse for bad writing. Wouldn't surprise me Hussie used it as a cop-out.
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It also sucks that pre-retcon everything made consistent sense. Gamzee gave Jack Lil Cal, Grimbark Jade caught The Earth, Rose wrote the manual that Calliope got, etc.

Post retcon it was just changed to "Vriska did it but I won't go into detail because the more you think about it the less sense it makes". I hate how everything turned into "it was done by Vriska". I used to find aggravating that before that it was "most of the things are done by Gamzee", but this shit is even worse

Calliope's manual is so inconsistent, too. Post-retcon it's said that it contains wrong information, because that information comes from pre-retcon Rose. Why the fuck does Calliope have pre-retcon Rose's manual?

It's just so obvious that retconning the story was Hussie's afterthought, and that he didn't plan it for a second. And this is why Homestuck, and its end, sucks so much. This ending was made for a different story, a story that Hussie had in his mind 4 years ago but that never executed.

Fuck I'm sad and angry.
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I'm still in fucking shock. I can't believe he did this to us, and planned to do this to us for FOUR FUCKING YEARS. 7 years I read this, teenager to adult, and I feel so massively let down. This is how people felt about the Phantom Menace, I imagine. I guess in a way this really marks me growing up, because I'll never let myself get too invested in a piece of media ever again.
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>>81776311
I proceeded directly to disappointment
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Nice how all the trolls become essentially that by the end. Vriska is the ultimate hero that gets everything she wants. Terezi becomes a troll mostly used for jokes involving her looking somewhere else (essentially the only joke of the final act). Karkat does shit, despite being the troll protagonist and prophetized hero of everything. He even tries to be relevant, but he just can't. Kanaya is essentially a prop. Aradia dies!!
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>>81776555
Okay see:
>>81775476
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Guys. GUYS.

I found my lost HS smut folder.

Oh man. All these old faps. The memories are flooding in.
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The only thing this ending has taught me is that Toby did the right thing leaving this trainwreck for a while to make a simpler story that was easily more successful.

See you faggots in the future Hiveswap /vg/ thread.
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I can't fucking believe I wanted to kill myself after the ending of Homestuck.

It's such a letdown. I can't kill myself over this disappointment.
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Haha it was a good 7 year joke right guys
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>>81776569
>Why the fuck does Calliope have pre-retcon Rose's manual?
Retcon doesn't effect bubbles. Bubbles are a constant unless manually wiped See the Calli BlackHole Experience
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>>81776569
>Calliope's manual is so inconsistent, too. Post-retcon it's said that it contains wrong information, because that information comes from pre-retcon Rose. Why the fuck does Calliope have pre-retcon Rose's manual?
She shouldn't even have pre-retcon Rose's manual, though. The only things that have been shown to survive John's retcons are the things that exist in the Dreambubbles, which is made up from the collective memories of the dead.
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>>81776481
the thing is that nobody will give a shit anymore about this trainwreck after the garbage he just pulled out from his ass
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FOR ALL OF YOU IDIOTS SAYING THAT LE IS NOW STUCK IN SOME OTHER UNIVERSE

THAT'S FUCKING WRONG. A) CAIRO OVERCOAT. B) GREEN SUN WASN'T SOURCE OF HIS POWERS.

BUT MOST IMPORTANT IS C) THE NEW UNIVERSE IS GOING TO BE TOUCHING THE FURTHEST RING, MEANING THAT LE IS "ALREADY HERE" FOR THE NEW UNIVERSE AS WELL.
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>>81776559

Yes, anon. Yes it is.

When authors point out that real life doesn't work like fiction and that they don't have to follow the established trends, they tend to miss that that is because real life doesn't need to satisfy anybody and the trends are trends for a reason.
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>>81776617
ikr
i feel you bro
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Anyone else feel really bad for paperseverywhere? She's the sort of person who would let their involvement in a project become incredibly bias. She has been so happy these past few weeks.

Like when people who went to the screening of BvS and gave it a standing ovation. Movie was proper shite but these people not only enjoyed it but they made it out to be the best film of 2016.
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>>81776569
What was the point of the retcon again?
I thought we would finally see the payoff, but we didn't. The narrative would be a lot more streamlined if the characters just dealt with their issues instead of making it so they never had those issues in the first place.
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>>81776641
>coat wasn't there
>sun DOES play a role, clearly whether well explained or otherwise
>no
Sorry f//am
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>>81776617
What if Hussie made the ending shit on purpose because he knew how many people were gonna kill themselves after it?
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>>81776629
>Bubbles are a constant
Are they?
I though Feferi set them up?
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>>81776629
Calliope got the manual from being in the meteor. The meteor comes from the post-retcon universe, because that's the meteor that clashed against the Earth that gave birth to the Cherub's universe.

There were no dreambubbles involved. Hell, even Hussie made sure to mention that the penis ouija still happened post-retcon to justify that Calliope has it in her manual.
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You know what? It wouldn't hurt so bad if he just apologized. "Yeah, I fucked it up, sorry! I made too many mistakes and couldn't find a way out of it." I would accept it. But he expects us to eat this shit up.
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>>81776555
Here's a "time"-line
>kids enter new universe which is inhabited by carapacians for some reason
>kids start training apparently? even though we're shown them settling down
>kids zap to Caliborn using John's powers and leave behind the trolls for some reason
>b1 kids are trapped inside juju
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Hated everything post-retcon, with the exception of Dave/Dirk big resolution. That was well done and nice to read. Everything else essentially building up to a big punchline that never arrived. Karkat for Jebus' sake
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>>81776089
Don't talk shit about Lain's ending.
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>>81776664
>dodging the wordfilter
Nobody will treat you seriously like that, baka desu senpai
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>>81776641
>>81776664
Though other people pointed out that he doesn't have his Cairo Overcoat, that shouldn't matter since his Void powers should allow him to fade away from existence and be summoned again in whatever universe that has Lil Cal. He only needs the coat while he's trotting around in his current body, otherwise he can just disappear from existence.
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>>81776674
Feferi who?
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>tfw you die offscreen
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>>81776410
That makes me wonder. What if some planned scenes were removed in the final video because they no longed matched what the story had become?
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>>81776698
My waifu, fucker.
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>>81776523
>rape victim Karkat and Vriska

Why is Hussie such a monster?
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>all this BKEW tier speculation people just accept as canon

wut
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>>81776617
If you're my ex do it anyways because you're a fatass and shipping is retarded.
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>>81776710
why do you have a waifu that doesnt exist
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>>81776641
>GREEN SUN WASN'T SOURCE OF HIS POWERS.
READ THE FUCKIN COMIC
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>>81776713
I don't even know what BKEW is thank you very much
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>>81776571
really you should invest yourself into creating your own media instead
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>>81776713

May as well be canon, we're not getting any resolution otherwise.
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>>81776697
The soul that was in Lil Cal leaped out into Lord Jack who got slain by shitty welsh cueball sword. Lil Cal is an empty juju now.
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>>81776677
No, because the biggest problem is that it just ends. If it were a novel it would be missing its final chapter
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>>81776418
Only everything related to the kids and trolls universes because they were "closer" to the Green Sun. The new created cherub universe is fine.
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>>81776672
>implying anyone really means any of that shit
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>>81776664

DID YOU SEE HIM REMOVE HIS COAT, HE FUCKING TELEPORTS IT AROUND AT WILL

"CLEARLY" IS NOT AN ARGUMENT. IT'S NOT FUCKING CLEAR AND WE EXPLICITLY KNOW THAT A GREAT DEAL OF HIS POWERS ARE NOT TIED TO IT.

YES, BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, THE SHITTY FLASH NEVER MENTIONED THAT PARADOX SPACE IS DESTROYED

SO FUCK YOU FOR SUCKING HIS DICK AND SAYING IT RESOLVES SHIT, IT DOESN'T.

LE IS NOT DEAD AND HE'S STILL GONNA BE A PROBLEM IN THE NEW UNIVERSE
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http://www.mspaintadventures.com/ACT6ACT6.php?s=6&p=009343

Where did the muscle ghost go?
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>>81776719
>implying I would ever be successful enough to have a significant other

nice meme
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>>81776713
Do you have a sensical alternative that ties up the sequence?
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>>81776042
>It's the Serial Experiments Lain of web comics
Shut ur whore mouth
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>>81776633
>She shouldn't even have pre-retcon Rose's manual, though.
She does, though, because all her information comes from pre-retcon and when she talks to Jade and Jane she says she doubts its veracity (because what it's written talks about a completely different situation).

What she should have is post-retcon Rose's manual. But she doesn't. In fact, that manualis sabotaged by a Gamzee who used Equius' blood to void out all the parts that mention him or Lord English. Except post-retcon Gamzee shouldn't have Equius' blood because Vriska was the one who dealt with the corpses.

See? The more you think about it the more obvious it becomes that Hussie never planned the retcon.
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>>81776588
Alright, thanks
>>81775476
>Calliope wipes PS and essentially all B2 and pockets LE (along with all of PS the B1 kids and Vris/Ara/Sollux)
>Kids go to new session->cherub session
Aren't both of those unconfirmed, though? Expecially the latter.
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AR didn't deserve to die

He only wanted to uphold The Law
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>>81776758
read, nigga, read
>THE MUSCLE GHOST CAME ALONG FOR THE RIDE. AND I GUESS HIS SOUL GOT TRAPPED IN THERE TOO? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS.
Lord English is predominantly Caliborn, but he's a little bit Equius and Auto Responder as well.
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>>81776745
What led you down that train of thought?

That's just one copy of Lil Cal
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>>81776726

I DID READ THE COMIC YOU COCK-MONGLING MONGOLOID.

"There is only one in existence, and it is the source of the powers of all first guardians. The pre-scratch kids and post-scratch trolls intended to destroy the Green Sun so that Jack Noir would lose his power. According to Doc Scratch, the destruction of the Green Sun would result in the destruction of the first guardians. " -MSPAWiki

DOES LE LOOK LIKE A FIRST GUARDIAN TO YOU?! I DON'T FUCKING THINK SO.
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I think I can only laugh now
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>>81776755
Aradia just stood their watching 'something' happening. It wasn't a complete and utter shot down based around the black hole which was directly behind LE
JEJ
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>>81776765
You're alright, anon.
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>>81776796
EXACTLY REMEMBER WHEN HUSSIES JUST DUMPED THE EXILES

AR DIED FOR FUCKING NOTHING
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>>81776807
i so badly want to go to sleep and wake up and have this just be a dumb nightmare and have the real ending be good, or at least satisfactory

i feel so disillusioned right now
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>>81776089
Lain's structure unravels and the entire thing becomes more dreamlike as it progresses. It has more grounds to just say fuck it
>>
WHAT
HAPPENED
TO
GCATAVROSPRITE
FUCK
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>>81776803
>That's just one copy of Lil Cal
There is only one copy of a juju. In all reality, in all of paradox space, there is only one juju that simply has different points in its own timeline, showing up in multiple worlds. That is the entire point of the concept of jujus.
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>>81776806
>QUOTING THE MSPA

HAA HAA
HEE HEE
HII HII
HOO HOO
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>>81776790
No. Latter is more confirmed than former. Next session IS cherub session. What happens from Vris using the juju is speculative but using the 8ball imagery it's safe to say he's pocketed regardless of how the juju helps.
In that sense there are three option is the beta kids close loop.
Pocket LE Pocket B1
Pocket LE Juju B1
Juju LE juju B1
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>>81776787
That's because those conversations happened in a pre-retcon timeline.

Remember, for the Terezi retcon segment we had to input passwords to see the retcon pages? This isn't like when John stuck his arm through the plothole or teleported all the oil on his Land to everywhere in Paradox Space. Hussie only showed the visual retcons because they were relevant, but the story retcons have to be followed linearly.
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>>81773048
>Conclusion
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>>81776852
Well, it stopped. That's as close to a conclusion we're going to get I guess.
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>>81776787
>Vriska was the one who dealt with the corpses.

i missed this, what did she do with the corpses?
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Any day now from today to whenever the fuck in the future Hussie will update this with more info on what happened are you ready for the ride again?
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>>81776806
Uh, doesn't Jade count as a first guardian?
Why isn't at least the Bec part of her destroyed?
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>>81776841
WHERE DID HE GO
HE WAS THERE ONCE THEN NEVER EVER SHOWED UP EVER AGAIN
HOLY FUCK
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>>81776843
No. Lil Cal showed up in Dave's dreams because of his nightmares caused from Bro's Lil Cal which is the SAME Lil Cal that showed up in his dreams (that same Lil Cal later split and created an empty receptacle in the B2 universe for Caliborn to later claim).

Lil Cal's appearance in a universe is caused by circular circumstances. It is not LINEAR. It is a juju, it has no distinct origin in regards to its appearance in a universe. It's like Lord English's glitch in A1; it just happens and causes itself to happen.
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haha
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>>81776796
>>81776821
Goodnight sweet prince
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>>81776851
The conversation I'm alluding to is definitely a post-retcon conversation between Calliope and post-retcon Jane and Jade.

>>81776877
she stored them in a fridge and used some of them to prototype sprites, prototyping ARquius because Hussie needed ARquius to still exist with the excuse that "ARquius is a morally dubious tactical genius, even if all that comes from AR and Equius adds nothing to the mix"
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When they entered the door, the 8 heros were teleported to fight Caliborn at some point in between breaking the clock / the final battle. Once there, he sealed the 4 beta kids in the juju and sent it into the furthest ring. That's what Vriska found through her ghost arc and used in the final battle - "Yodelbooger" described the juju with the 4 beta kids sealed in it as the ultimate weapon to bring about LE's undoing.
Then Dirk seals him into Lil Cal, but he continually comes back in the loop of Already Being Here
Then Vriska uses the Ultimate Juju on him, and he dies
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>>81776843
Adding to what I said; there is NOT only one juju. The old juju simply just disappears from its "last" point of existence. Remember when Jane alchemized Calliope and Caliborn's jujus? It did not teleport the jujus to them. It simply caused the copies Calliope and Caliborn had to disappear from their possession.
>>
But seriously, what the fuck was Hussie thinking when he told someone to make a video for the finale 4 years ago, completely changed the story since then, but STILL used the same video almost unchanged?

This is possibly the most retarded thing someone could do to a story. It's just like the end of Lost and How I Met Your Mother.
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What happened to Jasprose and Davepeta?
>>
that was fucking anticlimactic
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so the juju is just a metaphor for the comic itself?

>>81776923
who know
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>>81776923
ded
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>>81776923
And GcaTavros.
I guess they died. Hussie don't care.
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>>81776830
It didn't even do that, though.
If anything the last few episodes made the most sense.
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>>81776923
None of the sprites appear in the epilogue

It's supposed to be symbolic of the fact that Hussie loves Olive Garden
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>>81776923
Flew into the sun like a big piece of garbage
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The ending makes [s]Collide look like anticlimactic and pointless. Why was the fight with LE shown at all? A huge portion of the flash was dedicated to a pointless fight with no stakes. What was the purpose of Andrew distracting Vriska?

EoA6 should have just been kids vs Cindy and Slick vs Union Jack.
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>>81776923
>>81776942
They weren't planned 4 years ago so they had no place in this ending.
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>>81776912
They teleported to Caliborn willingly after already settling Earth.
Caliborn was on a future Earth, John has warping and Dave can time travel. It's easy for them to accomplish.

It's why the trolls didn't come too. They were prepared for it, and the three of them are way weaker than the god tiers.
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>>81776907
Oh, then did that happen because she was in the Dreambubbles?

The Dreambubbles are unaffected by the retcons. They're composed by memories, after all, so even if the physical universe has been changed, the memory of the events still remain unaltered within the Dreambubbles.

People seem to keep thinking the Dreambubbles are an afterlife, but they're more like a repository of memories. They're actually quite similar to the AR's existence in that they're just masses of information given sentience with the added benefit of being corporeal.
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Hussie shows hints that he knows what he's doing at times, but then completely drops the ball.

I think the Trolls were ultimately to the story's detriment. Hussie realized this with Horrorstuck and rightfully began writing them out one after the other. However, somewhere along the line he decided to stop that for whatever reason instead of letting Bec Noir kill them all off. Vriska provided absolutely fucking nothing. Terezi provided absolutely fucking nothing. Karkat was the best developed character and perhaps it would've been fine if he had survived, but ultimately Hussie ruined him as well and turned him into just a silly comic relief character.

I also think that Hussie wrote himself into a corner with Lord English. He made him far too overpowered, and the only way he is defeated is by blatantly ignoring his power. Bec Noir was already a stupidly strong character that would've been really hard to write out, but even at the time of his creation there were clear ways to defeat him.
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>>81776946
ending*
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>>81776912
>when they opened the door
False. There were more than the kids at the door.

Also Caliborn confirms retcon power from john were used to access him.
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>>81776873
Just end my life
7 fucking years
All that Lord English hype
Hussie fucking betrayed me
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>>81776919
The casual readers you usually tell to "read the fucking comic" and people who gave up with Cascade got the most satisfying ending.
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>>81776943
Its been too long since ive watched it
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>>81776923
Whenever you want to know what happened to X character, just ask yourself
>did this character come to existence or become relevant only after the retcon?
If the answer is yes, then it's because they virtually don't exist.
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>all sprites are presumed dead because of green sun
>LE weakened by lack of green sun so kids killed him
>all ghosts just kinda.... nope
>earth now infested with carpacians because jade didn't want to have dave turn earth back to fucking humans before a xenocaust
>this whole comic was a letdown
>DAVE DIDNT LIVE UP TO THE PROHPECY AND IM FUCKING PISSED
WHAT THE FUCK ABOUT DAVE'S PROHPECY
TO DROP THE PIMP LIKE IT IS HOT
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>>81776969
So you're saying that Calliope is pre-retcon? Because that makes no sense, given that without the retcon she doesn't even get to be born (GAME OVER happened).
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>>81776963
>They teleported to Caliborn willingly after already settling Earth.
how do you know that? couldn't it be some alternate version of them?
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>>81776969
Everything regarding LE and the trolls was terribly handled.
Its obvious Hussie didn't have a game plan for them the same way he had one for the exiles and kids.
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>>81776963
why didn't Roxy make slabs to god tier the trolls?
Yaldaboth wanted KK as a fucking god of new earth
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>>81777015
He killed Jack English
Close enough. Though he couldn't have done it without Slick
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>>81777015
WHAT ABOUT THE MATRIORB
OR ECHIDNAS "KARKAT WILL BE A LEADER" PROMISE
REEEEEE
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>>81776850
I see. Does that mean that we won't see an epic B1 kids vs LE battle?
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So what was the point of John teleporting himself to Caliborn and them fighting each other like kids?
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>>81777015
>DAVE DIDNT LIVE UP TO THE PROHPECY AND IM FUCKING PISSED
Except he and the B1 pocketed English via a wrap around time shenanigan. Made possible by John and Vris via Juju and Jake via tantrum.
All conditions were met.
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>>81776893
>Lil Cal showed up in Dave's dreams because of his nightmares caused from Bro's Lil Cal which is the SAME Lil Cal that showed up in his dreams (that same Lil Cal later split and created an empty receptacle in the B2 universe for Caliborn to later claim).
And those are non-simultaneous splits, so there's still only one at any given time.
>Lil Cal's appearance in a universe is caused by circular circumstances. It is not LINEAR.
Jujus take circuitous paths through time, but they have a linear X to Y to Z existence. X, Y, and Z don't have to be chronological events, but it's still one linear personal timeline.
>>81776916
>Remember when Jane alchemized Calliope and Caliborn's jujus? It did not teleport the jujus to them. It simply caused the copies Calliope and Caliborn had to disappear from their possession.
There is no difference between these concepts. One juju disappearing then another "copy" of it appearing, these are the same juju. Jujus operate by a ship of theseus property: every individual one is the same one irrespective of how it got there.

And even so, the soul within Lil Cal was pried out by Lord Jack with the juju breaker crowbar. Lil Cal is either an empty juju, or not even a juju anymore. Lil Cal can't be used to summon Lord English anymore.
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>>81777061
>tfw karkat running into LE was 'leadership'
fuck you hussie
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>>81777058
>why didn't Roxy make slabs to god tier the trolls?
because she didn't know how
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>>81777061
Maybe the matriorb made the hiveswap trolls
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Did Hussie get help from Angela Sham JUST so that he could hint that he is a sham? I wouldn't put such a meta thing past him. If he noticed an animator with that last name, how could he pass up the opportunity?
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>>81775677
By re-reading that section of the comic.
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>>81777066
Well I mean, it's over. It means theirs a 60% chance one happened and dave gloriously fulfilled his role in the prophesy and died pocketing LE but you know. Off screen hush mode m80
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>>81777075
>a wrap around time shenanigan
Source?
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>create a final villain
>have the villain and the heroes be completely inconsequential to one another and never confront each other

amazing

good writing, hussie
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Someday I'll look back on this and laugh.
Someday.
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>>81777096
>juju sealed in cherub session
>released back in B2 before the confrontation after training and shit
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What happened to Tavros did he die for good off screen?
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>>81776969
>the only way he is defeated is by blatantly ignoring his power
This was literally every boss fight in the finale.

>Condesce immortality ignored
>LE-Jack invincibility ignored
>Lord English's blasts were all weak-sauce suddenly

Why didn't he fucking kill Vriska when he saw her with his box as it is? I don't think his mouth blasts were green sun related at all.

>>81777015
He killed Union Jack but he also stole the Slick's dibs which is way worse than any prophecy.

>>81777099
Caliborn gave John a wedgie once.
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>thematriorb its inside kanaenae wombs
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>>81777128
Who knows! Who cares! Hussie sure didn't!
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>>81777015
The whole turning back time on Earth thing is especially weird. I mean, is it a Space-Time thing? If it can turn back the clock on plant life would it also work on animals? Humans? Could it unbreak a sword?
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>>81777099
hey, they confronted him in a symbolic claymotion sequence, which wasn't even his end. that's close enough, right?
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>>81777099
>Jack is still the only villain who had some significant impact on the main characters during the events of the story
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>>81777128
Safe to assume everyone in B2 got iced
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>>81777099
BUT VRISKA AM I RIGHT?
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>>81777080
>one of his last relevant actions was crying on the ground from having CLOVER beat him up
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>>81777099
seriously it just
fuck
and I wanted it to be anticlimactic, but in a funny way
to have Hussie regain control of the comic and just write out LE/Caliborn
because then nothing matters. It's silly. and he's just gone. Because "already being there" is only for the comic
and like to have a set of panels or a video of IRL Hussie just going "No.... he's too overpowered. Deleted"
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>>81777093
But we know the B1 and B2 kids, and also everyone that was on the lilypad somehow escaped from the furthest ring and went on to live on the new Earth they created. We saw that glimpse in the future
The fact that we didn't see Vriska in the new world might also mean she got killed in the off-screen battle.
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>>81777128
feel free to make up your own story!
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>Spades Slick dies after all the bullshit he made it through
>Union Jack explodes due to hypnotism
>mass murdering genocidal maniac Jack Noir gets to live in the new universe
IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>81777127
That's just an assumption, though. We don't know when the scenes on earth take place. Are they the kids who were sealed or the ones on the platform?

And how did the juju end up in the furthest ring?
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What was the point of the retcon?

He could have just brought Vriska back to life with the ring if he wanted his waifu to become relevant again.
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>>81777164
I guess that means Terezi died too? Along with sweet, little Cassie?
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>>81777170
He's probably in Can Town Jail for being an asshole
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>>81777164
>But we know
They get sealed after entering the new universe during caliborn's session. Neither of these states are exclusive.
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>>81777148
And he got a FUCKING HAPPY ENDING
WHAT THE FUCK HUSSIE
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>allowing earth to be taken over with weird chess aliens instead of doing their duty and repopulating their planet
>kanaya apparently stuffs the matriorb in a pocket and forgets about it
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Now that Homestuck is over, share new webcomic suggestions? I like...
>Erfworld (Mondays, Fridays)
>Mokepon (Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays)
>Whomp! (Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays)
>Dr. McNinja (Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays) - also ending soon

Currently archive reading:
>Kill Six Billion Demons
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It just sorta feels right that it's over now.
I was hoping for some better fight for LE, but whatever.

I read problem sleuth from the beginning so this is the end of my 9-10 year ride.

Thanks, I guess, Hussie. Homestuck actually holds a significant place and portion in and of my life.
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>>81777185
I think the retcon was just him chasing another idea he had. It was pretty cool when John stuck his hand throughout the comic, but it all amounted to nothing. Bare minimum I was expecting John to have to take Lord English to the site itself and fight him. That's what EVERYONE expected.
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>>81777191
Perhaps. Sollux and Aradia were also alive, but their fates are also unknown and it is implied they died as well.
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>>81777175
>And how did the juju end up in the furthest ring?
That is in the comic
>we don't know when earth took place
We know it was after B2 which means it's before the Cherub confrontation during their training mentioned here
>>81776475
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>>81775474
Colors and Mayhem you goddamn doze
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>>81777169
My story is that every single character in Homestuck came to life and took turns pissing on Andrew Hussie until he drowned in their piss

>>81777185
To save my waifu with the ring instead, so she could fulfill her duty as a Muse and help rebirth the troll race she loves so much.
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>>81777211
All I read these days is Unsounded, Kill 6 Billion Demons, Gunnerkrigg Court and Rice Boy.
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Since we don't know how LE died in the fight I'll just assume Hearts Boxcars escaped the calender and bit his head off
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>>81776850
what if there is no cherub session
what if that was the whole point of all this
to prevent that session while still maintaining continuity of the people who would survive in the next universe.
escaping the bonds of time and space to be freed of all the loops and recursions.

otherwise, what's the point? fuck loops.
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>>81777205
But she doesn't and the troll repopulate. This had already been confirmed. Cali's dad killed trolls. New uni is calli's session. Fucking hell.
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>>81777191
>I guess that means Terezi died too?
Shit might be true.
Also fitting with the theme
>Even in death (on the new Earth)
>Terezi owns (parts of it at the start)
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>>81777226
>That is in the comic
"no"
Vriska & co. just sort of stumble upon it.
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>>81777244
>otherwise, what's the point? fuck loops.
That's not a very deterministic attitude. Nothing wrong with loops mate. If you didn't like loops you should have spat the dummy at juju way back when.
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>LE hyped up as being unbeatable except through the exploitation of glitches in spacetime
>His very name references Lord British, a character intended to be unkillable that was slain through players exploiting bugs
>All he needs to die is a thing some uppity tart found in a box
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>>81777234
>help rebirth the troll race
That didn't happen though
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>>81777244
>escaping the bonds of time and space to be freed of all the loops and recursions.
I fucking wish this was the case.
Homestuck in its entirety is just a self-fulfilling prophecy as Skaia cleans up all its paradoxical time loops.
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Terezi didn't show up because Roxy didn't like her flirting with John and killed her.
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>>81777205
There are OTHER planets in the new universe, though.
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>>81777273
Sure didn't, this update was not very good did you notice that
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>presumed dead
callie, terezi, sollux, aradia, gamzee
>dead
sprites, LE, Condie, double sprites
>going to die (from suicide)
andrew V huss-meister
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>>81777255
>caliborn explicitly states he banised it in caliborns masterpiece
Fucking hell lad
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It's been, what, 9 hours?

I still don't know what to think.
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>>81777211
Avas Demon, Chiasmasta, Superego, Prequel
Theres not so much interesting things that update fast nowadays.
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>>81777273
It happens eventually.
A planet of trolls in the new universe got blown up during the cherub sex.
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>>81777211
Whomp and Sonichu are the only good comics left.
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>>81777273
>>81777286
It did happen it has been previously shown.
Read the comic.
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so in the end when the green blackhole was created did paradox space just fall apart because of all the cracks and become white?

That's what I got from the sun scenes
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>>81777292
Complete bullshit

Colossal waste of time

THIS IS STUPID

take your pick
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>>81777262
i'm not a determinist. straight lines are better than circles.
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>>81777279
CANON
A
N
O
N
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>>81777266
>>His very name references Lord British, a character intended to be unkillable that was slain through players exploiting bugs
Being fair, that's retroactive. Hussie didn't know dick about Ultima until people told him Lord English seemed similar to Lord British.
"Lord English" was just a pool pun when he came up with it: English in billiards just refers to giving the cue ball a sidespin when you strike it. (Not a topspin though.)
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new bread

>>81777327

>>81777327

>>81777327
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>>81777211
I currently 'read' Paranat and GKC in the sense that when it updates I glaze over the page and absorb nothing because the update dripfeed is fucking stupid
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>>81777311
Fair enough but we didn't see even a hint of it in this last update and there was no real good reason for that
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>>81777317
HOMESTUCK IS A WASTE
HOMESTUCK IS A MESS
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WAIT HOW THE FUCK DID THE CONDENCE END UP IN THE HUMAN UNIVERSAE?
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>>81777357
HOMESTUCK IS A BIG FAT MISTAKE!
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>>81777311
Where?
The planet that was destroyed by the Cherub isn't it. It could've been an Alternian colony, we know the Condesce conquered other planets in different universes.
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>>81777142
She didn't turn time BACK she accelerated it FORWARD you baka
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highlight of the update was the thread immediately turning on ipgd
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Is Jade holging B1 Earth in her hand? Or is it the new Earth from the new universe?
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>>81777442

you mean dave did that, right

jade can't do that
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>>81777460
why did she hype us up
there's no way she actually thought it was good
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>>81777467
None did that. It was just a flash-forward for the readers to see how the kids would end.
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>>81777495
I thought they left the chess dudes on Earth and flash-forwarded for a while so they could handle the populating the planet and building infrastructure things before they got there.
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He better came up with a good epilogue since this end was fucking nothing.
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>hussie never planned the comic to go this far
>he got through act 5 and saw how popular his story had become
>he realized the ending he had in mind would squander all this new popularity
>writes himself into a hole to keep people reading so he can justify
>eventually can't write anymore from fatigue but more likely lack of planning
>finally ends his comic after basically all his fans abandoned ship
>basically only people left are those who would like it if it were a 2 minute sbahj loop
I sincerely hope this isn't right
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>>81777485
To fuck with us, probably. She mentioned being impressed by the animation just before it landed but I don't think she ever mentioned the actual plot. I wonder if she genuinely enjoys the story direction or if she's just as disappointed as we are but it was too late to stop it by the time she really started being besties with him.
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Well guys. It's been a ride. Can you hear them yet? Can you hear the newfags in a year/two year/5 years time, making a homestuck thread asking about the glory days when homestuck was still going on? Can you imagine your nostalgia and smugness? What answer will you give them?
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>>81777591
>justify his game
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>>81777594
Well, if she wanted to play some kind of prank on us, she sure pulled it off.
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Guys. I just fucking realised something.

Hussie had us all fucking played. You know what we are? S U C K E R S.

All this shit is a SBaHj callback. For fucks sake. Motherfucking cunt of a Hussie.

"air like that is UNREAL"
"it doesnt even HAPPEN"
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>>81777627
it was a slog and a chore to keep reading after everyone i knew who introduced it and read with me had stopped
it was only good for 6 months of the five years i read
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>>81773362
damn good tailor
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>>81777460
did she came here to defend hussie already or

does anyone have that img of hussie face with "your welcome"?
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>>81777755
i don't think she's that dumb
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>>81773871
>karkat does the bloody thing
i wish
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>>81777591
As someone who actually produces content I feel sad for hussie. Homestuck is kinda his daughter and he knows shes a crack addict because of bad parenting.
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FUCK THIS ENDING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
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>>81777317
KIDS AND FUN
WASTED YOUR TIME
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SO DID THE DOOR LEAD TO THE NEW UNIVERSE OR TO THE MASTERPIECE BATTLE
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>>81777774
So Hiveswap is basically crack incest?
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>>81777677
i though it was more like the nancho party arc where it just ended because dave didnt know what to do with it
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>>81774280
Not made by hussie
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ive never felt this betrayed before
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>>81778338
You and me both, pal

The epilogue will feel like fanfiction at this point. I don't know why this happened.
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>some plot threads from fucking act 2 still haven't been resolved
JUST
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