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Act 7 starts today.
Do you think Squarewave and Sawtooth will ever appear for the ending?
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>>81531288
Yes
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>>81531288
probably for the end

also, thank god the mspaforums are down, hopefully they fucking stay that way. i don't need people going back and digging my shit up
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>>81531288
You mean Zillywave and Sawhoo?
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>Act 7
No, pretty sure it's the intermission between 6 and 7
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>>81531288
>Starts today.

Says who?
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>>81531288
Act 7 starts and ends on 4/13.
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>>81531339
Is it going to be a real intermission or something like the pages after Descend, though?
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>>81531308
mspaforums are even more of a cesspool than /hst/ so good riddance honestly
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>>81531375
It's like the pages after Descend.

So like it's an intermission but not a capital I Intermission it's just some unnamed part of the comic.
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>>81531375
I mean the descend pages, yeah.
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>>81531308
they'll probably be back
my greatest shame is on there too, let's hope we'll be free forever
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>>81531112
The existence of patterns within the Heroic Titles does not mean characters literally gain new powers.
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Man Toby's song was some straight up horse shit
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>last post in the last thread was a Jade
Nice
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>>81531457
it's like, no. 256 on the list of shit someone needs to do. last i checked someone had successfully hacked the forums and fucked shit up, the moderator team doesn't even know who's in change anymore, it was hilarious to read
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Will Vriska have a good character arc?

>no signs of (Vriska) wanting to kick her ass
>already setting her up for permadeath as the evil Vriska
>her plan almost worked, except Dirk's planet exploded, Jake needed help, Jane was supposed to not battle people and Jade was supposed to be asleep
>will probably be molested by Hussie instead of using the juju

But hey, at least Karkat ha-
Fuck.
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why is this allowed?
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[S] Colliding art styles
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I just talked to a girl about homestuck over the phone and it felt weird, I think i spilled my spaghetti
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Im expecting the next few days to be the green sun getting destroyed or w.e, plus caliborn receiving his juju, then vriska using it. Then the next flash will start.
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I know I sound like bkew here, but...did anyone else notice how much the flash dealt with the relationships between aspects?
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>>81531520
It fit the action well enough
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>>81531500
did I say they did?
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>>81531560
>Operation: Dog Loop
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>>81531578
It was a big battle with lots of participants and showed off an underused mechanic well suited to big battles with lots of participants. That's it, really.
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Toasty posted the rest of the class circles.
1/2
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Fraymotifs were way underused before now o.k. the story sadly.

Does /co/ have any favorite combos?
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>>81531540
Ain't no time left for arcs. Vrisk already got a decent arc. It finished with her little speech she gave while jumping down to get the juju. After that nothing needed to be said or done with her character. Just let her be Vriska; she's pretty good at it.

Her plan worked fine, she got the juju, she's going to deliver it to the people who need to use it. What more do you want?
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>>81531584
How wasn't your comment advocacy (however devillish) for inversion given the context in which it was made?
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2/2
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>>81531540
I think karkat is going to end up realizing that he can mimic the powers of his friends by thinking about them, sort of like Peter Petrelli from Heroes (except less of a terrible mary sue). Either that or he gets more powerful when he's around his allies. It would explain why he could all of the sudden run faster than kanaya at the beginning of game over despite her rainbow drinker enhanced speed.
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>>81531540
I literally do not understand what Vriska's story is supposed to be anymore. It's swung around and changed so much, and she's said "I am now a mature and wise person" to herself like five times. Maybe that's the point, she'll just never get a proper resolution because she's damaged.
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>>81531560
>The hiding spot + karkat fight panel was crooked the whole fight until Jade fixed it
Didn't notice that
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>>81531692
Guess you could say Jade's making things straight again
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>>81531666
TimeMind is obviously total OP hax if you're into that kind of thing.
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Last one for now
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>>81531692
It was crooked between the time that cans punched it, and when jade fixed it yea
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>>81531656
>>81531682
rad as fuck
except space is a bit, eh
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>>81531656
Awesome effort. The Life stuff was made for Jane clearly, which is why it's in her colour.

Wonder if Toasty will do versions for Meenah's fuschia and generic green?
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>>81531288
What's left to answer, /hsg/?
>Planet quests and multiple denizens abandoned
>Dirk's trickster bots + Alpha session DD/drones
>English himself after Homosuck
>What Aradia's future plans are once English is gone
>All that weird shit about Nannasprite saying Condesce raised her
>What the plan for the former Bec Noir is
>Where Jade's probably gone in her sleep
>The actual ultimate alchemy itself
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>>81531543
because the world of homestuck is a just world
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>>81531792
Who made sburb?
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>>81531741
Fuck I posted the wrong one, also I lied
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Whats crowbars crowbar do again?
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>>81531760
Fuck cans is actually insanely potent. If he wasn't distracted every damn fight the felt would never lose.
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>>81531724

>>81531741
Why wasnt Arquius sent to another timeline?
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>>81531666
Time/Mind was rad as shit.
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>>81531792
Why was John's wallet important?
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>>81531818
almighty damage
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>>81531813
The progenitor session of SBurb made SBurb and, simultaneously (depending on your perspective), SBurb made itself.
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>>81531741
God's work anon
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>>81531813
Crocker Corp., by modifying the SGRUB code from the troll's session. At least that's what the Alpha session seems to suggest.
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>>81531818
It's especially effective in breaking anything time-related, and can be considered to have a high damage rating I guess
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>>81531633
Yeah, but what about with music(time) uniting aspects and space separating clashing ones
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>>81531818
Destroys, regardless of time powers or anything.
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>>81531844
To captchalogue Earth dude, that's already been addressed
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>>81531816
I like how Cans goes into kind of a boxing stance once he realizes that shit's actually about to get serious.
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Is John going to get to punch Jack's face one last time before the comic is over
That's all I want
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>>81531308
The internet archive is a thing

And nobody cares
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>>81531792
>All that weird shit about Nannasprite saying Condesce raised her
I don't think that really needs to be answered, it's a pretty minor detail.

I'm most curious about what the point of Dead Calliope is.
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>>81531367
>not a single one of you is funny
the entire thread is just stupid
although, ipgd is kind of crazy so who cares?
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>>81531666
Time/Mind
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>>81531816
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>>81531893
Really? Must have forgotten that.
Who has Earth right now?
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>>81531690
She's a character brought back from her proper death to be a ringer and now her place among the living is uncertain, that's her story.
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>>81531905
Act 7 should just be John punching every character from Homestuck in the face. One punch per panel. Alternate timeline selves don't count unless they were significant to the plot and depicted in comic.
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>>81531520
nope it was great
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>>81531816
I wondered why that ended so abruptly

It was pretty creepy seeing Yalda's face for just a flash before it looped
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>>81531673
I never said they get new powers
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>>81531950
I think John, and he's supposed to give it to Jade once it's time to add it to the new universe.
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>>81531905
all the Jacks are dead dude

ALL THE JACKS
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>>81531950
Vriska gave it to someone. Don't remember who. Probably back to John.
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>>81531985
The former Bec Noir is still alive
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>>81531520

Agreed, none of this music has the impact that shit like Umbral Ultimatum or Crystamathequins had.

The cut of Eternity picks up the song almost right after the song ends from Caliborn: Enter and everything else sounds like a jerked refrain with zero soul.

Muted it about halfway through and I'm thinking of mixing my own version of music for it at somepoint in the future. It was THAT disappointing.
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>>81531985
The Jack that matters just lost the ring and got knocked out.
Characters in Homestuck aren't dead unless there's a hole in their chest or their head got cut off.
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>>81531948
I like LE's kind of terminator walk.
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>>81532026
>the Jack that matters
>not Spades Slick
boo. I'm booing you. this is me booing you
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>>81532049
I'm more of the fan to the divebomb myself
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Now that the dust has settled, were the trolls a mistake?
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>>81532026
>Characters in Homestuck aren't dead unless there's a hole in their chest

There is a hole in his chest anon. In his heart, because his waifu hates him.
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So I stopped reading when the kids and the trolls united. What happened since then, is the story almost over?
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Terezi and dave had two fray motifs right?
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>>81532135
3 year time skip
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Is there a collection of the Troll Army's various death sprites? I'm curious how many trolls got their skeletons done up for the occaision
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>>81532135
the story's one week away from completion but there are like eight million plot points that aren't even close to being resolved
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When will Hussie put up the actual flash instead of a YouTube video? Will he?
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>>81532121
Hard to say. The comic would probably have ended sooner and been less bloated if Hussie hadn't opened that particular can of worms, but there was also some seriously neat stuff inside the bloat.
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ARADIA: tactically speaking a knight of time and a seer of light is a nearly unbeatable combination

I WANNA SEE ROSE AND DAVE'S FRAYMOTIF

Wait heck I also wanna see John and Jade's - teleporting wind around? Shrinking people and putting them in a twister?
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>>81532135
>What happened since then, is the story almost over?
A bunch of crazy shit happened, some new kids were introduced which were mostly shit except Roxy, everybody died, John managed to fix thing with retcon shenanigans, and now we're in the home stretch.

The entirety of Act 7, the final act, will be posted on 4/13.
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>no Hope fraymotifs

>Eridan did cooler shit with Hope than Jake ever will
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>>81531823
The best Elf

slash Puppet Person

slash Frogman

slash Toad Goblin

i once wrote up an origin for each felt member as formers of a different fantasy species that all exiles for crimes, and were approached by some mysterious power to become green time leprechauns forevermore. Cans was a borrower who drank from the well of giants to become huge, which is borrower sin.
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The horror that was Act 6 is finally over

hopefully act 7 would be better.
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>>81532187
Is there even an actual flash? Maybe the whole thing was done in adobe whatever.
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>>81531520
It's a pretty good song though. It's stuck in my head.
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>>81531844

It was used to captchalogue Earth.

>>81531792

Most of those things have already been answered or aren't really mysteries.

The biggest remaining mystery is "What is the Ultimate Riddle?"
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>>81532211
Dumb frogposter
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>>81532049
LE was great in this flash.
It was nice to see him animated and doing things for once.

>>81532121
Trolls as a concept were fine. Their execution was horrible.
He should have just made 4-6 of them important, spent no time with the others, and never introduced the Dancestors. Their bullshit really dragged down the comic and made it so needlessly complex.
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>>81532136
Why temmie
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>>81531948
It's a bit sad seeing all those trolls get absolutely obliterated out of existence why did they even agree to that
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>>81532211
that's Paiges for ya
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>>81532224
Oh fuck, I didn't even consciously notice that didn't happen.
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>>81531980
Which is what Inversion advocates.
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>>81532232

This is what people who survived Act 5 thought.

Think on that.
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>>81532233
The YouTube video includes the preloader, so probably
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>>81532211
>Eridan killed the most harmless troll in the cast
>Jake killed a fucking first guardian

really?
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>>81532211
>implying
Jake fuking BTFOing grimbard jade was cooler than anything eridan ever did in his entire existence
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So I think it's pretty clear that the flash was meant to depict all the kids' victories before everything gets majorly fucked up in ways nobody really expected

Given that, and the fact that the Act 6 Act 6 sub-acts have all been from Caliborn's point of view, I think that Caliborn saw this entire flash occur on a monitor, and then realized that he had to engineer the situation to turn out like what he saw, while he still manages to end up victorious

It also seems likely that all the scenes from the flash that never had their loose ends tied up (AltCalliope going to the sun, Vriska using the juju, English killing the ghosts, Jack English's black holesplosion) are going to be the events that cause shit to get fuckd

What do you guys think? Is the black hole in the alpha session a portal to Caliborn's session or something like that?
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>>81532258
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>>81532317
That could be a fake preloader, for stylistic reasons.
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>>81532274
because
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>>81532311
fuck you I loved Act 5
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any non lewd requests?
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I want to make a theory but how do I make sure it's not BKEW levels of delusion?
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>>81532211
>Jake did a giant Dragonball Z fucking spirit explosion
>Eridan just made a gun
nigga plz
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>>81532300
if you're in the "classpects are only about powers" camp we're gonna have to agree to disagree
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>>81532333
>Is the black hole in the alpha session a portal to Caliborn's session or something like that?
it probably is something like that, yeah
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>>81532364
Give me the cutest Jade.
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wait what about gcatavrosprite
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>>81532135
Child versions of the Guardians were introduced. They're all unlikeable except Roxy, and after like 3000 pages of dicking around with their drama the kids meet up with them and get over their parent issues by venting to each other.

Lord English played his own session as a kid and he's been fighting for narration with Hussie. He and John hate each other for no particular reason, and Lord English was inside of Lil Cal. His motive is to kill his sister.

The Troll Empress was a big bad for a while since she took over the kids session and tried to use it to revive her empire. She's also Betty Crocker.

A bunch of other shit happened but it doesn't matter because they hit a reset button and undid all that development.
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>>81532364
>>81532401

Can you draw me a cute Aradia?
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>>81532334
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>>81532401
Why is she so breedable?
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Yeah but HSG, let's be serious for a moment.
Rate each song + the segment out of ten
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>>81532364
Depict Jade taking a shoe off to test some water
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>>81532369
Just don't go full retard and most importantly be genuinely prepared to be proven wrong.
I used to have this elaborate theory, with diagrams and everything, about how the Scratch switched the players between the sessions. And then Hussie just made it duplicate them.
Anyway my current theory is that WV will literally eat the Green Sun.
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>>81531948
I love how LE takes off his coat once it's time to lay the smackdown on everyone.
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>>81531948
It's too bad the artist didn't make an LE-taking-off-his-coat animation (unless there's some other reason he temporarily goes into the mummy tomb, there)

mostly because all this spritework makes me want a homestuck themed MUGEN fighter set and picturing LE taking off his coat before a round starts is basically the greatest thing ever
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>>81532364
Aradia stopping time for LE and throwing knives like Dio Brando. If you want to include Sollux you can have him throwing a road roller with p2iioniic2

>>81532369
Make up so many different crazy theories that one of them has to be right. Then point to that one theory whenever somebody calls you crazy, reminding them that you were right before.
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>>81531566
what did you say to her
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>>81532389
For someone who spent the last few posts saying "but I didn't say that", I find this assumption especially ironic.
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>>81532369
You wait a week and then say "I called it!"
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>>81532463
Grief > Shylock's Eternity > Oppa > Creata
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>>81532434
>He and John hate each other for no particular reason

John hates him because he is a dickhead and he also knows he's the final boss. LE hates John because he humiliated him, and also is possibly the only threat to his power.
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>>81532364
terezi and davepeta drawing together
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>>81532389
For me

classes are about personality and type of power

but the aspects are only about powers
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>>81532462
Because breeding duties is what she lives for. Also, she shares genes with Jane.
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>>81532026
>The Jack that matters
Fuck off so hard
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>>81531948
This scene made me wonder if it'd be possible to make a Lord English character for mugen now that he has sprites.
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>>81532364
Terezi wearing a pantsuit
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>>81532511
Because the tomb literally is his coat.
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>>81532364
Gamzee crying while Kurloz shakes his head in disappointment
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>>81532495
My current theory is that the Fluffy Ball Plus Headband will be instrumental in defeating Lord English
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>>81532121
There should be only been the 12 original trolls. No dancestors.
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>>81532511
the sarcophagus and the coat are the same object, like kanaya's lipstick or stuff from problem sleuth
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>>81532462
Well, while canonically Jade seems very caring and happy, she's also in charge of repopulation. At some point in her life, she expected to get knocked up to produce what she thought would be Jake (her grandson's) dad or mom.
Basically she's the only character who canonically has given at least some thought to becoming a mom, and one of the few characters who seems like it'd be a role she'd adapt to well.
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>>81532364
Draw our king
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>>81532369
Start with Occam's Razor.

1) Does your theory fit the evidence?

2) If it does, how many assumptions does it make? Could you make a theory that equally fits the evidence - or moreso - with fewer and smaller assumptions?

Keep by that and you won't go wrong. Never consider your theory set in stone without hard proof. Consistently adapt it incrementally.
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>>81531948
Man I really love Lord English's giant retarded design, without an ounce of irony.
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>>81532670
There should have been like 4 trolls, and the rest should have been cameos at most.
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>>81532670
some of the dancestors are better than the original trolls
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>>81532676
>>81532627
ah, must've missed this somewhere along the line
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>>81532121
yes
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>>81532702
He should have worn a felt hat
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>>81532591
What is that blue thing?
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>>81532211

Did you forget what happened before Game Over? Not that I blame you.
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>LE and Condy's slow yet terrifying strut
How intimidating.
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>>81532711
its easy to be better than a shitty character, but that doesnt make them good
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>>81532682
Eurh, that's a gross Jade. The face is all over the place.

Some cute Jade to mend things.
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>>81532325
>>81532374
>>81532744
>haha epic dbz joke

no fuck off
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what are these things
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>>81532698
(this is also the guide for how not to be bkew, who sticks to his headcanon from what I can only venture must be chronic anasognosia)
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>>81532456
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>>81532748
Isn't it just a send up to beat 'em up bosses?
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hey plastichallway, will you jump to another fanbase when HS ends? Wanna to get in touch with the new freedoms.
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>>81532751
>not liking jade with DSL
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>>81532702
preach it
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>>81532187
>>81532317

RDA also includes a "preloader" despite being on Youtube but trying to run it in real time in its original Flash format would be impossible without a monster computer. Collide is the same. There's way too much high resolution art to load all of it in Flash.
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If you mixed together Eridan and Shrek's homes you'd get a hiveswamp
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>>81532805
Team Sleuth
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>>81532463
Grief >Shylock >Toby > Whatever the fourth one was
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>>81532743
Jane's chest.
I believe the image is essentially "tell me your secrets grass" but with boobs instead
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>>81532805
Could it be?
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>>81532805
Cairns and henges, like at Stonehenge and other pagan euro burial sites

>>81532831
Nigga if I had a problem with dsl I'd have said eurh dsl, wouldn't I?
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>>81532791
Actually, you fuck off.

>>81532805
Jake's planet is full of those red rocks that look like that British ring of rocks.
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>>81532855
Shrek looks like he's about to STRIFE the fuck out of some unlucky cunt.
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>>81531792
Kurloz and the coat of many colors.
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>>81532805
tombstones
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>LE doesn't have a parrot yet
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>>81531948
Meenah and Arquius were the highlights of the flash for me and I have no idea why

>>81532670
Okay but let's have Meenah instead of Feferi
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>>81531367

never go on reddit

those brains don't function man.

>>81532702

its just good
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>>81532211
>imfuckingplying
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>>81532743
It's Jane's boobs.
Someone made a post meaning to say that Jade inherited Jane's breasts, but said "interpreted Jane's breasts" instead.
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>>81532805
Consorts?
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>>81532831
Damn, Lexxy draw that other nsfw pic of the kids and this too?
Are there any more?
also sorry for the rarepair
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>>81532837
>>81532702
I unironically think it looks badass.
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>>81532932
That's not Lexxy. Lexxy only ships Davejade
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>>81532882
>cherub bestiality
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>>81532929
all the bony beta consorts are being necromancered by Sir Fizzlesworth Dreadglub
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>>81532903
No problem there, Feferi has done jack fucking shit.
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>>81532702
English's design is great, though
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Kind of underwhelming, mostly.

But I'm just ready for it to be over, and you know what? A big giant fight scene seems like a pretty MSPA-y way to start tying the bow.
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>>81532702
there's nothing ironic to it, its great
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>>81532932
drew*
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>>81532932
That looks like pancakestein.
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What does this mean
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>>81532670
those flashes were pretty entertaining if you got through them serially, they were for me anyway

and then we wouldn't have characters like meenah and aranea and we can't have that
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>>81532721
A chicago overcoat is gangster talk for a coffin, so a cairo overcoat is a sarcophagus. But it's also an actual coat, because problem sleuth references.
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>>81533016
Jake beat up all the Felt and Crowbar is shocked.
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>>81532966
Sorry, I meant "that" as in the picture you posted. Do you know where I can find her old stuff?
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>>81531948
Are they ever going to explain why LE's head is a different color than his body?
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>>81533016
crowbar is going to be romantically attracted to jake now, just like clover/karkat

also jakes gonna lead the felt
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>>81532996
>>81532990
I remember when it was revealed there were so many people in these threads who wouldn't shut up about how stupid they thought it was.

That was a longass time ago, wow.
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>>81533016
Jake is now the new boss of the Felt, which is fitting given his full name.
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>>81531813
>Who made sburb?

THIISSSSS

It seems to have human distributors on Earth so what the heck even

And in general across the multiverse just what the heck

It's so specific
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>>81533016
Jake beat a gang of incompetent time leprechauns, what else would it mean.
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>>81531792
>What happened to Mituna
>What role do the horrorterrors play, history, motivation, etc
>are our heroes doomed to live in a green house for the rest of eternity
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>>81533016
I wonder if Jake is gonna be the new felt leader now.
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>>81533018
Also Porrim, just for the cosplay and porn.
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>>81533016
The Felt are supposed to be a real dangerous bunch (more so than usual) under Crowbar's supervision. Jake just fucked them all up. Mr. Seven is stunned.
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>>81532463
Creata 7/10 - basically just build up material, nothing mindblowing or especially good about it except the intro art being blurred and coming into focus.

Oppa 9.5/10 - I was really psyched that hussie finally managed to animate fights in homestuck, I mean god daaaaaamn. He tried and failed in act 5 so this must mean a lot to him. I can't stress how cool the fraymotifs were, I mean when terezi and dave cycled through all the timelines to find one where dirk was alive and then shift that instance of him to the alpha timeline? I mean daaaamn. Also the track is pure chaos, which I love.

Eternity 8/10 pretty good, glad to see this song finally get used. Easily the weakest track in the flash other than maybe creata since it's aged a bit. But maybe Ive just heard it too many times. It was nice to see Lord English finally fight toe to toe with an opponent though, even if he was only toying with them.

Grief 9.5/10 This track was so on point, and the art with the distortion effects was sooo coool. Honestly this part of the flash gave me chills down my spine. The only complaints I have is that tensei went a little too hard on the guitars near the end, but Im more of a piano guy myself so feel free to disagree with me.

Overall 9.5/10 The pieces fit well together, and I think everyone got at least some of what we wanted. I would give it a 10 since I liked it more than cascade, but Im reserving a 10 mainly because the flash didnt really have any moments that we weren't already expecting. Which is something I'm totally fine with since we've been so starved for some real fights.
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Is there still time for Rose to play the rain?
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>>81532121
i would say yes, but meenah
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>>81533114
>What happened to Mituna

holy fuck this is the loosest end

what did he do? i thought he shot someting across paradox space so hard it made him retarded
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>>81533062
Natural phenomenon probably. He's got tanlines where his suspenders were too.
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>>81531813

zazzerpan
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>>81533114
I still think mituna method will still happen but Im not holding my freedom
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Is there a better girl than Roxy?
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Why was killing Spades part of their goal in the fight? Because he was a Jack? Apart from killing Snowman I don't see why they'd even know he was a thing, but it has been two years so I might be missing something obvious.
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>>81533084
Well, everyone expected something really different, more along the lines of Doc Scratch.
The design definitely took some time to grow on me, but grow on me it did.
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>>81532121
Honestly I don't think the trolls are particularly more mistake heavy than the rest of homestuck.
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>>81533084
They're shitters and should have never been given attention.
The only people who don't like Lord English's designs are girls who wanted him to be taller Doc Scratch (read: suave anime faggot husbando). Rather than Hulk-skeleton-terminator-pirate-crocodile-snake-puppet-mobster man.
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>>81533187
those aren't his suspenders?
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>>81532364
Gamzee making a beautiful home out of his fridge
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>>81533155
not with that expression
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>>81533155
yes

will she do it though? no idea (i hope so)

>>81533178
what happened to mituna matters about as much as how latula lost her sense of smell or why kurloz freaked the fuck out and deafened meulin
it doesnt, really. people just want to ascribe more meaning to it than it has
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>>81533217
alive? no
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>>81533217
HIC's arm looks kind of weird.
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>>81532121
I go back and forth on the original 12. Dancestors were absolutely a mistake though. Yes, even Meenah.
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>>81533223
Because vriska is an idiot.
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>>81533084
I remember posting that his lack of a fancy hat was supremely disappointing, still is.
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Maybe I misjudged the popularity of this comic all along but finally having one of the animations on YouTube is weird, since I'd have expected a lot more than 100k views a day after an end of act animation goes live this close to the end of the comic
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>>81533178

Aint no loose end at all.
Cronus probably found LE and Kurloz doing something to fuck up the session and Mituna shoot LE across the paradox space so hard it made him retarded.
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>>81533223
Spades couldve teamed with the kids to fight union but he just wants to stab everyone like any other jack.
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>>81533178
BKEW's theory is that he shot prospit into the alpha kids session so that the alive non GT trolls can use the quest crypts (since theyre all prospit dreamers). It's the only BKEW theory that I actually think might have somewhat of a chance to happen.
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>>81532938
It's glorious

You know those triple merger things, where you post three characters in a circle and drawfriends mix them up? English is a pretty good ingredient in those
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>>81533246
Oh you're right, I thought they were supposed to be red for some reason.
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>>81533290
Vriska was a mistake.
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>>81533141
>I was really psyched that hussie finally managed to animate fights in homestuck, I mean god daaaaaamn.

I was worried for a sec, the very start of the HIC battle was looking real awkward... but it got so awesome so quick, and never stopped being awesome.

fucking FF6 choir soundfont, toby take me now
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So do we have any hints regarding the length/format of act 7?
Also where did this stuff I heard in another thread about the Collide flash being "the first part of a thirty minute flash" come from?

>>81533211
Mituna method would be neato but it seems pretty far fetched
I'd be really shocked if it turned out to actually happen
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>>81533217
Stabbed right in the ass!
... I like it!
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Why did Karkat get excited for catching Clover when he never met him to the point that catching the luckiest thing alive would be something to be special about
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>>81533223
He was considered an unpredictable wildcard so taking him out was playing it safe. Would have been cool to see him team up with the kids though.
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>>81533303
>BKEW's theory is that he shot prospit into the alpha kids session so that the alive non GT trolls can use the quest crypts

...that's probably exactly right. shit
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>>81533321
MUGEN English when
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>>81533345
Hussie said something about 30 minutes of animation in total so lots of people are expecting it to be a 12 minute flash.
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>>81533302
Their fault for getting in the way of his dibs.
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>>81533223
Spades is less a bad guy than English but he's still a bad guy. Even when cooperating with Karkat he still stabbed him. He just doesn't give a fuck.
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Why did Huss make Aranea a villain just to kill her off?
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>>81533339
I knoow plus the Shin Megami Tensei reference at the beginning of the condesce fight scene was so sick
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>>81533408
>12

>not 13
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGSoGB8bxvQ
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>>81533429
If you really think about it, you'll notice that most villains in fiction are made only to be killed off.
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>>81533352
Because karkat is kind of petty and clover being annoying increasingly made beating clover the most important thing in the world to him
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>>81533303
>>81533362
theres zero foreshadowing for this and no reason. if the trolls seriously needed to go god tier (which they probably dont) thered easily be a better ass-pull than that
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>>81533362
Its far fetched since it would come out of nowhere, but it does make a lot of sense, and it would certainly be very convenient.
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>>81533474
Nuh-huh!

We have villains like Madara!
...kek
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>>81533379
I fucking wish.
>LE will never be in the saltybet roster
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>>81533429
He wanted to do the retcon.
He needed a big enough fuckup to make the retcon the right call in character, and normal candidate vriska didn't QUITE work.

Hence we got vriska that isn't even GOOD at being vriska.
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>>81533429
her plan was the cure the blind and bring a happy ending to everyone

ofcourse she gets killed off
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>>81533429
I think it was a very very very much failed attempt to make Vriska seem less like a bitch in the context of a bigger bitch who appeared to be better but was actually worse.
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>>81533505
There's enough foreshadowing for people to theorize that it could be a thing

I'm far from sure about the mituna method but it's definitely the least asspully way of allowing the remaining trolls to ascend
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>>81533016
Means They have a new English to serve
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>>81532813
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>>81533607
>There's enough foreshadowing
no, theres none
theres just a mystery and a guess
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>>81533352
Clover was kicking his ass, man, Karkat's just proud not to be a loser for once.
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>Act 6 act 6 act 6

I KNEW IT ACT 6 IS THE WORK OF SATAN!
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>>81533155
god i hate her character. she goes on about smart mature she is, intentionally picking more complex words even when they don't fit as well as simpler ones would, just to show off her "intellectual superiority". she goes on about other peoples problems and desires without questioning her own, and she refuses to do something that actually would have helped her grow, because it's "kiddie shit" and she's far too mature for that.
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>>81533505
a guy willingly made himself retarded in order to give some kids he never knew a chance to win the game

that sounds completely in tune for homestuck
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>>81533429
The moment she mind controlled Gamzee was when the whole timeline went to shit
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How much did fray motifs cost again?
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Is homestuck the kingdom harts of western webcomics?
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Post yfw act 7 act 7 act 7
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>>81533657
It's almost like she's a rounded character with flaws and shit.
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>>81532702
I never seen anyone hating on English or his design

Caliborn grated them but not English
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>>81533553
It's MUGEN. Someone will find a way, even if all his other frames are MvC Hulk with his face pasted on.
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>>81533684
In the range of a billion boondollars I think. I'd have to check.
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>>81533684
A LOT

In S John enter village, the player is unable to buy a single 1 and john has about a million moneys if im not mistaker
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>>81533664
its like you dont know what foreshadowing is or something

a mystery being revolved in a convenient way with no setup whatsoever is not in tune for homestuck at all, actually
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>>81533657
>she refuses to do something that actually would have helped her grow, because it's "kiddie shit" and she's far too mature for that.
I'm 90% sure it's actually out of spite and stubbornly refusing to admit that spite was wrong.
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>>81533697
>act 6 act 6 act 6
>666
hussie please die
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>>81533697
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>>81533646
Mituna did something important
We don't know what it was that he did but we're able to at least make an educated guess that he could have foreseen the need to move his session's god tier crypts to another appropriate location in paradox space

There isn't evidence that indicates this is what happened, but it's our best guess

Chill out and let people speculate
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>>81533429
The timeline needed to be fucked up royally to force a complete overhaul with retcon shit, or else it would've led to the same ends (LE, destruction) forever like it already has
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>>81533646
Theres no classical foreshadowing HOWEVER, there is the fact that it's really suspicious that all of the living trolls that aren't god tier all happen to be prospit dreamers. That might just symbolize that red team 'won' the contest they were having during their session, but it's not unreasonable to believe that there might be another reason. And the mituna method would be a pretty good reason. Also the fact that all instances of prospit in the Alpha session are currently destroyed, might be pointing to the possibility of an instance of prospit that isn't destroyed arriving?
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>>81533553
Instant S-Tier
Always bet English
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>>81533781
god i hope ms paint survives
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>>81533817
Is Gamzee a God Tier?
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>>81533812
no ones stopping you from speculating its just a really unlikely theory
even bkew is aware of that
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>>81533657
That is all intentional.

She's supposed to be smart but also annoyingly pretentious.

Same way as Dave is 'cool' but really a pile of self-doubt and childhood issues.

The original kids are good characters.
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>>81533875
Nope
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>>81533834
Ms. Paint will be devastated after discovering the loss of Slick, so Hussie will write him back in so the two can live a happy life together.
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>>81533726
it just fits so well.
He's a ripped angry deviantart green skeleton man composed of a ripped troll, an angry clown, a pair of anime glasses, and an angry green skeleton child. How could he be anything else?
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So is Jane dead?
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>>81533709
>rounded character
but she has no good parts.
to me, she is even worse than vriska because at least she is acknowledged for being a huge bitch
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>>81533875
We don't know whether or not he is, but I suspect he isn't. I originally had a theory that he got the fake costume made so that we wouldn't know that he was actually god tier when we saw him in the future in caliborn's session, since wed just assume he was wearing the costume. However now that he was caught in that black hole I'm not very confident in that theory anymore.
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>>81533812
I hope we find out what it was, anyway
It would be cool if something made the dancestors important other than producing a ghost herder and timeline fucker upper
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>>81533936
Probably not, considering that she still has to show up in the claymation. Same goes for Dirk.
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>>81533657
that's kinda the point

in fact that's kinda the point of Seers in general

that they are too busy fucking around with shit they can't know and not bothering too much with shit they obviously do.
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>>81533657
>god i hate her character. she goes on about smart mature she is, intentionally picking more complex words even when they don't fit as well as simpler ones would, just to show off her "intellectual superiority"
Do you have an inferiority complex or something? Can't tell the difference between word PLAY and rhetoric. Hell half the reason she does it is to get the goat of people like you who scream pretension the second an unnecessary SAT word is dropped, but none of her friends are stupid enough to fall for it.

Rose's reluctance and personal inability to look inward is, indeed, a large failing of hers, but she's well aware of it.
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>>81533956
Well then, congratulations on being wrong. How does it feel? I bet it feels pretty nice. I wouldn't know.
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>>81533977
Well Carlos also contributed to the creation of the Cairo Overcoat so there's that.
Also does anyone else think his scene in that one walkaround was really cool? Maybe it was just the music.
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3 out of 5 final bosses dead
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>>81533936
we just dont know
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>>81533998
I thought those were different versions of them or something (except possibly John). Hell, I can't keep this bullshit straight.
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>>81533977
I mean people also often forget that Kurloz was present when he made the sacrifice. Kurloz being someone who basically worshipped Lord English and was working to bring him into being. Theres something really fishy about it and Im surprised so many people write it off as dancestor shenanigans.
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>>81533898
but dave acknowledged that, and got some closure with dirk. rose doesn't have nearly enough time.
as far as the original kids go, john seems to have some issues, mainly greif and bottling negative emotions, and that probably won't get addressed, but at least he seems happier after he threw a big fit and got to fight some things.
jade doesn't actually have much of a character at all, so there is nothing to be addressed.
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Does Rex Duodecim Angelus literally translate to "King Twelve Angel", or is my Latin just shit? Don't get me wrong, the song is still amazing, but the name's been bugging me for a while.
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>>81533742
A lot compared to how much John had at the time yes, but Dave ended up with several orders of magnitude more than that.
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>>81533898
Remember when Dave had a hugely meaningful character advancement because a pile of vaguely sexual puppets fell on him, and despite being so meaningful it never broke the tone and was God damn hilarious?

The original kids are GREAT characters.
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>>81533111
What really tickles my interest is the fact that the Dancestor Session is seemingly the first session that started this insane chain of paradoxical events that is Homestuck.
>Dancestors get their game from somewhere, play it, fail, and scratch it
>Alternians find tech in ruins, Sollux adapts it into Sgrub, and they play it, their rushed creation of Bilious Slick creating a Jack who would fuck up their session at the last minute
>Grandpa English's huge as fuck company would find Sgrub and recreate it as Sburb?
>That session fails hard as fuck and is scratched, creating Alphaverse where the Condesce distributes the game to the kids and grooms them for their Void Session

I may be remembering shit incorrectly but the question still stands, where the fuck does this game all start? Is Hussie, the in story creator just another creation of his creation? Did this shit just create itself, no questions asked? Do we just accept it and wait for the story's climax?
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What's going to happen to Gamzee's other half? He did what he was supposed to do. Is the immortality going to stop? Is he going to regenerate? Is he going to be merged with something? Will the kids just leave him on the floor to lay there for eternity?
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>>81534143
>but dave acknowledged that, and got some closure with dirk.
And Rose got some closure with Roxy man are you sure you've been paying attention. It's been a year I don't blame you for forgetting.
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>>81533936
Probably not because claymation masterpiece has not yet occurred (assuming the kids in the masterpiece are also the alpha kids)

Either BKEW is right and Condy's curse gets transferred to Jane somehow (maybe thereby reviving her)
Or maybe... She just didn't actually die when she appeared to
Who knows
Somebody mentioned time shenanigans with a Jane from a different point in time healing herself

I couldn't tell you which outcome i think is most likely but I do think she probably isn't just permadead
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>>81533936
I highly doubt it, since there was no violent "you're dead now" moment people usually get. It seems like Condy just choked her a bit and put her down. She doesn't want to kill her heiress anyway, right?
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>>81534146
Yeah. At first I thought it would be "King of 12 Angels" but that would be "Rex Duodecim Angelorum" or something similar. It's been years since I've had to do Latin so I might be wrong.
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>BKEW still saying Jane will inherit Condy's curse

gotta admire that level of self delusion
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>>81534191
Game Over never happened to Gamzee.
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>>81534233
Ignoring BKEW for a moment, doesn't that automatically get passed on by whoever kills the last herald? That's how Condy got it from Handmaiden.
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>>81534146
>>81534230
It means "The king's twelve angels".
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>>81534246
In The Masterpiece silly
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>>81534146
I think it's 12 king angel as a pun on one winged angel.
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Should I read the whole thing or just recommended parts?
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>>81534276
i dont think it was explained how it works
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>>81534075
Can't nana revive her?
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>>81534166
It's almost certainly self-fulfilling shit.
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>>81534166
Obviously the Squiddles birthed the Dancestor's Bilious Slick and reside in Paradox Space as the godly Horrorterrors
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>>81534166
they all fuck up each other in a double mobius reach around kinda way
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>>81534277
Wouldn't that be regis or regum or something
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>>81533936
Maybe.

Quick theory: one of the Nannasprites sacrifices her life force to Jane to resurrect her
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>>81534308
Nana can't revive; she can only heal.
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>>81534308
nannas never brought someone back to life before. it seems like itd be cheating to let a sprite do that
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>>81534191
Why does anything need to happen to it?
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>>81534291
homestuck you mean? You should read the whole thing if you care about getting the full picture. If you don't you'll be confused as fuck. Feel free to skip the intermission after act 3, but it's pretty cool so you probably shouldn't.
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>>81534277
But that would be "Regis Duodecim Angeli" if my 3rd declension noun-fu still works.
Regis = genitive singular "of the king"
duodecim = adverb "twelve"
angeli = nominative plural "angels"

I think they just looked up the words and used the dictionary form.
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>>81534291
whole thing
all 6000+ pages

then re-read it because you obviously won't get everything the first read
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>>81534276
>>81534307
yes. but according to him it has to work by going to whoever they killed last, like handmaid succumbed to her wounds after killing condy and then condy got the curse. so obviously she killed jane and then died and now jane will get the curse/
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>>81534166
Every Universe, or at least many Universes, in the multi-verse is born from the game in a vast conflict between the Horror Terrors and Skaia. The game is the battleground that they use because that's how cosmic forces do I guess. The original Troll session just started this particular chain of nonsense.

As to what exactly Skaia and the squids are, that may just be left as them being core components of existence, end of story. I certainly hope we get more than that though, that's probably the most interesting stuff to me.
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>>81534352
Because the other time he was sliced in half the timeline got reset.
I just wonder how his immortality works
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>>81534385
That doesn't sound like it makes a huge amount of sense.
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>>81534166
Well, Sburb/Sgrub has already been described as the way universes propagate, and the reason the Alternia trolls'/the human kids' sessions were fucked up is because there were errors in said propagation process. (The full explanation for why is obviously a bit more complicated and involves timey wimey shit, but whatever.) We don't know where the Beforus trolls got the game, but does it really matter when the whole comic is full of time loop shit making shit happen because of itself, and the main conflict in the story lies elsewhere (namely, Caliborn's influence over the other characters' fates and over what we know of Paradox Space)
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>>81534233
BKEW makes a lot of leaps and jumps in his theorization but the curse-inheritance is a strong theory if only because of the fact that Jane was the heiress to the Crocker empire
Granted it doesn't seem to make sense anymore what with Roxy killing the Condesce
but that could easily be a red herring to distract us from the twist (Condy could potentially be living still)
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>>81534422
>The original Troll session just started this particular chain of nonsense.
However, they themselves were created by another, separate universe. which just happened to not be linked to this particular batch of time bullshit.
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>>81534291
Start in the middle like you do with any story, and randomly choose which Act you want to read. Ignore the Intermission entirely.
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>>81534385
thats how itd have to work for jane to get it, but theres no way of knowing until we're shown

personally i always assumed it was actively inflicted on condy, so LE would just pick who he wants next
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>>81534385
Wait. What?
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>>81534456
thats a bkew theory. ass reaches and nonsense as far as the eye can see

>>81534437
gamzee was never immortal he could just take a lot of punishment
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>>81534205
only about her mom though. not about acknowledging (AND FIXING) her flaws.
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>>81534531
i dont think any of the other characters really give a fuck whether rose uses big words or not anon
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>>81534361
>Feel free to skip the intermission after act 3
This is the worst advice you could possibly give
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>>81534531
>only about her mom though.
"Only about her mom" man that's like half her character it's a big deal.
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>>81534365
>>81534323
Maybe? I dunno, im shit at latim and only know a little of it since my language has it as a basis.
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So uh, is the cloun gonna survive the planet explosion inside the fridge Indiana Jones style?
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>>81534361
>Skip the intermission

Sounds like someone needs to shut the fuck up.
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>>81531813
Caliborn and Calliope.
It has all the shitty garbage they like. Romance, world building, complicated horseshit, magic powers, etc.
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>>81534676
obviously

it seems pretty likely everything there is gonna get sucked into caliborns session
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>>81533297
Do embedded videos count towards total count?
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So, where the fuck is the Courtyard Droll and Draconian Dignitary?

Did Hussie just forget them?
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>>81534009
hey i just wanna tell you, classpects are only about powers
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>>81533936
I don't think Condy would kill her heiress if she could avoid it (which is weird, because on Alternia she was all about killing heiresses...), she probably just incapacitated her
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>>81534687
>skipping act 4 intermission

look at this pleb
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>>81533297
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2991785?hl=en
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>>81534470
>Condy could potentially be living still
Well, despite not being a player in that incarnation, she's still linked with the Life aspect in some ways since she could control troll lifespans and stuff. She got stabbed with a sword, have trolls not lived through worse? Also, although it required straightup retcon level bullshit to undo, Vriska's death by backstab didn't stick either.
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>>81534752
meenah mentioned feeling an instinctual urge to kill her heiresses, and wanted one she wouldnt feel that way about
janes a human, so the biological urge doesnt happen
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>>81534734
Them and the jack that used to be Bec Noir are going to make a comeback and be the final boss of the comic

Reminder that a guy who never lies save through omission told Rose that Paradox Space was just fine with LE around but Bec Noir was actually a threat to reality
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>>81534422
The conflict between Skaia and Horrorterrors reminds me of all the Grimdark shit that occurred. They were egging on Rose to follow her destructive impulses and break whatever part of their session she saw fit which shows they have some form of malicious intentions towards Skaia and the universes it creates. I'll be fucking damned if I never learn just what the fuck these two transcendent forces are up to in this multiverse.
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>>81534845
quick, someone pull up his exact words
you cant paraphrase with this guy, anon
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>>81534752
Meenah mentioned something about wishing she could one day find an heiress who she wasn't biologically compelled to kill, which was probably referring to how Condy made Jane her heiress.
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>>81534845
Does HB escape the horse calendar?
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Why did Dave decapitate Dirk? What was stopping him from just decapitating the Jacks from the other direction?
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>>81534687
It's pretty irrelevant, despite being very good. You could completely ignore it up until EOA6, and it wouldnt fucking matter at all.
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>>81534815
>She got stabbed with a sword, have trolls not lived through worse?
I actually can't think of a troll who survived getting stabbed through the chest.
Although Terezi still walked around for a while after committing telekinetic sudoku.
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>>81534845
Uh no, I don't think that's what he was saying. He was clearly leading Rose on pretty hard the whole time.
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>>81534593
i guess mostly it was kind of glossed over, and fast'n'loose as well.
>>81534582
its not about the big words, she can use those all she likes, it is only a side effect. the issue is the personality that makes causes her to do it, always wanting to seem like the smartest person in the room.
there is pretty much only one thing that can redeem her, and that is admitting she was wrong and completing her quest, kiddie as it is.
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>>81534883
Then I hope you enjoy getting asspoked by demons in Hell anon because it doesn't seem like Hussie gave the Horrorterrors that much thought beyond "mysterious, helps Derse players sorta but not really, also important but for mysterious reasons, mystery"
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>>81534912
MODS
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>>81534461
>>81534422
What always gets me is how SBurb paradoxically creates itself and sets in motion so many of the events of the past- creates first guardians, scours the lands with meteors- but both the beginning of the story and its nature as a reproductive organ would imply multiple sessions with possibilities of success. We know that there are other attempted sessions going on and there's no REAL plot holes created- it can all be hand waved easy enough- but man does SBurb lay in heavy on the "past events of Earth being caused by present events in SBurb" thing if potentially thousands of other sessions are doing the same thing, creating their own "first guardians", throwing asteroids into the past to create their own temples, laying the hints of SBurb's existence that only THEY will come across, potentially even creating their own scratches which might(?) potentially create a whole new number of SBurb sessions (or maybe all scratches lead to fucked up worlds that can only bear one possibility of fruit).

Not a plot hole or a contradiction or anything, just always seemed weird.
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>>81534488

That's what you think.

Watch the new universe the kids create be the Beforus universe.
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>>81534917
because that could have given them a chance to react. also he had to go through all 3.
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>>81534917
with the amount of force he would need to apply to chop two heads off with a single strike, you wouldn't exactly be able to stop midswing.
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>>81534917
And then what, stop his sword instantly within a few inches of Dirk's neck?
The problems with that are a) momentum and b) coolness
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>>81534917
Would probably have gone clean through anyway. He hit them hard enough to break an unbreakable katana.
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>>81534836
>>81534908
Feferi doesn't seem to feel any such urge (in fact, she seems eager to meet Meenah in the Ministrife), so I think Meenah's just a psycho.
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>>81534744
then why are the personality of the same classes similar

Rose/Terezi/Kankri are know-it-alls

John/Equius are submissive

Dave/Karkat are defensive as fuck

Dirk/Eridan keeps ruining everyone's day

Vriska/Meenah/Condy are bitches

Tavros/Jake are naive as fuck
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>>81534972
>i guess mostly it was kind of glossed over
After three years of her being introspective on the meteor ride man did you forget the whole of the reason she started drinking.

Not that I'd blame you if you did that was three actual years ago.
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>>81534912
You MONSTER
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>>81535039
feferi WAS the heiress, why would she feel it
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>>81535015
Im pretty sure HS being a loop was debunked by WoG awhile ago. Correct me if Im wrong.
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How would you react if the Act 7 flash is 20 minutes of traditional animation?
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>>81535039
Feferi's the psycho, actually. By highblood troll standards, she's insane.
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>>81535039
Well yeah, but Feferi's irrelevant to everything ever.
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>>81535002
I think the Beta kids' session was the only one that got to the point of a Reckoning, and thus the only one to meteor the Earth.

As for the Alpha kids and both sets of trolls, they were the only ones to play it.
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USEFULNESS POWER RANKINGS
condy fight: Roxy>John=Rose>>Kanaya
spades fight: Dave>Terezi>>Dirk
felt fight: Jake>>Karkat>Dad>ARquius=Jane (although she was way useful in general for her heals and revives)
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>>81532277

Maybe they should have done something other than stand there and let him obliterate them.

Also every obliterated Cronus is a good deed from the big man.
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>>81535087
I'd react with surprise.
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>>81535087
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>>81535087
I'd shit my pants
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>>81535087
I would only be happy if Hussie drew it himself
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>>81534912
this is a gay-only thread
get the fuck out straighty
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>>81535134
pretty much everyone without a sword was useless in that condy fight t b h

that woman was unfazed by everything it was ridiculous
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>>81535087
depends on if it's good or not
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dude
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>>81534963
I guess I was reminded of the other beatdowns Vriska endured during the comic. Girl had a cueball explode in her face, costing her an eye and an arm and seemingly a lot of blood. Also the psychic ragdolling courtesy of robo-Aradia, though that did actually kill her
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>>81535134
>Karkat more useful than dad
Karkat beat a small leprechaun whose only power is that he's lucky
Dad beat the strongest felt that not even the entire midnight crew together could deal with.
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>>81535041
what are maids
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>>81535134
Wait. Kanaya was in the Condesce fight? Yeah, I guess there WERE four people there, weren't there. I guess I kind of assumed... I dunno, two of them were Rose or something.
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>>81535174
Make me
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>>81535187
i can't believe my jade/nepeta ship is finally canon
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>>81535041
>Rose/Terezi/Kankri are know-it-alls
so are other characters
>John/Equius are submissive
so are other characters
>Dave/Karkat are defensive as fuck
so are other characters
>Dirk/Eridan keeps ruining everyone's day
so are other characters
>Vriska/Meenah/Condy are bitches
so are other characters
>Tavros/Jake are naive as fuck
so are other characters

you are wrong
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>>81532193
Agreed. I think the positives outweighed the negatives in the end though
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>>81535225
She spent most of the time reading a book or applying lipstick.
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>>81535002
Keep in mind that the Trolls were the only members of their species to play, and the kid's session was just all kinds of fucked up.

I think in a normal instance, most of that shit isn't so deeply tied to single sessions.
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>>81535205
i guess the difference is trolls can survive losing a lot of blood/extremities, but a stab through their vital organs will get them pretty fast
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>>81535217
Fates' whipping girls.
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>>81535231
Yo, that's totes adorbz
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>>81535205
Bloodloss is apparently not that big of a deal for higherbloods, they're supposed to be pretty tough.
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If you could have one plot thread you want resolved before the end what would it be
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>>81535217
subservient to their own element

>ghostradia intentionally dooming her session because "muh spirits"
>Jane being mind controlled by "the thief of life"
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>>81535225
Well there were two Roses in there at some points.
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>>81535087
It'd have to be a Dante's Inferno movie-style mix of different art styles.
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>>81535039
Yeah Meenah and the Condesce might simply be homicidal maniacs. That's probably why Scratch had such ease turning Alternia into a chaotic planet. He had a hot, crazy bitch as their leader. Or maybe Feferi is the one fucked in the head, plagued bu some human emotion called compassion. Beforan culture is apparently centered around extreme coddling. But in Hivebent, it was made clear she intended to wage war on her ancestor. Shame Sgrub came along and fucked that all in the ass.

What was that fan adventure of Feferi taking revenge on the forces that fucked her over or something? It was mentioned a few threads ago and I really want to read it. Had nice art.
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>>81535315
Kinda wanted to know what the deal with Angels were. Guess it doesn't really matter anymore.
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>>81535225
Aw man don't be mean. She did really well for someone with no magical powers whatsoever.
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>>81535315
How on earth Jake was able to reference Erisolsprite when receiving Caliborn's juju on the post-retcon timeline, or how exactly a universe came about when literally every single player save Dirk was dead and Skaia was submerged in lava
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>>81535250
>you are wrong because I say you are wrong

care to list those "other characters"?
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>>81535350
Aradia literally just dommed the Lord of Time.
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>>81535410
Mythologically speaking, they're probably just referring to cherubs.
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>>81534166
The game is the reproductive system of the universe. I think I remember that being said at one point.
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>>81535448
No. Why would I do that?
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>>81535296
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>>81535427
>no magical powers
Shes a vampire, only blows like the laser blast would kill her.
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>>81535469
I mean the for-real angels. On Eridan's planet.
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>>81535383
feferi was just trying really hard
shes still a bitch sometimes, and is definitely capable of violence. that and she doesnt really have the right idea when i comes to her idea of culling.
her system was still fucked up. it was just less deadly.
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Im glad calliope is still around
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>>81535448

Actually you're wrong because you're agreeing with BKEW.
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>>81535438
>how exactly a universe came about when literally every single player save Dirk was dead and Skaia was submerged in lava
???
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>>81532666
I'd love that
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>>81535231
>2016
>Still being straight
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>>81535502
That's like just biology though, she can ran fast and punch hard, she can't break reality like some people in that group can. All things considered she did pretty alright.
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>>81535508
manifestations of the hope aspect, whatever that is
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why are Space players so useless?
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>>81535527
>GAME OVER DIRK IS ALIVE
>PRESENT DIRK IS DEAD
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>>81535515
Me too. We need good fodder characters to bite the dust.
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>>81535383
Feferi was preparing to kill the Empress, because she knew that if she didn't the Empress would kill her (well, without Sgrub, anyways)
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>>81535563
You're damn right
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>>81535527
If the Caliborn we've been following wasn't the one that gave Jake the sucker in the post-retcon timeline (which is the only way for Erisolsprite to have not stowed away on Lowas, gone back in time, and not showed up anywhere since then), there must have been a Caliborn that did, and I can't think of any way one could have been made other than there being a Caliborn from the pre-retcon timeline.
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>>81531948
>he's so nimble for a guy with one leg
also how come Tavros is so much more useful than any of the other dead trolls?
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>>81535594
Jade used up all her usefulness in Cascade
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>>81535231
did karkat make those shirts
i bet he tried on the im fucking dave strider one for a while
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>>81535515
What if somebody said Caliborn to her
Then there would be two of them
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>>81535638
Fuck off John E.
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>>81535427
She should have just as much powers as Terezi and Terezi was way more useful.
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>>81535668
Yeah, I'm kinda confused as to what her deal is now. Is she just going to be a juvenile forever? What happens when she goes to sleep?
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>>81535644
Guess doomed timeselves are doomed even in death. Not enough plot armor.
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>>81535691
TZ put some work in and developed her powers. Kanaya never did.
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Does this pesterlog contain the biggest plothole in all of Homestuck?

http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007575
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>>81535644
He's not a doomed timeline loser, just a retconned timeline loser.
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>>81535691
>She should have just as much powers as Terezi
There's no "should" she just doesn't have any powers. Karkat doesn't have any powers either. They simply didn't do whatever SGRUB thing was supposed to awaken their superpowers.
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>>81535604
She has double invincibility.
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>>81535644
He spent most of the fight being stomped on. His attack did absolutely nothing. He was lucky enough to have Aradia show up and stop the asskicking
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>>81535764
Homestuck is made of plot holes
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>>81535764
nah, the biggest plothole in homestuck is how dave's bottlecap can be both on the bottle and on the floor at the same time
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>>81535639
>>81535764
I think you're making some assumptions about how the retcon stuff works that we simply don't know. Is it not entirely possible that they had a slightly different conversation post-retcon?
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>>81535638
lip stick marks are superior fetish.
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>>81535638
Holy fuck that Jade is THIRSTY
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>>81535527
I think he's referring to how Real Dirk was the last survivor of Game Over. He was literally just minutes late to the party. Then he drifted off into a jpg artifacted as fuck Space in some kind of depressed stupor. It was really fucking sad. He was crushed he was unable to do jack shit to help. Poor guy. I wonder what he did with himself.
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>>81535668
maybe that's how caliborn gets the ring
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>>81535691
Terezi cheats. Damn Seers, using their hero natures without even going godmode. What was Kanaya? Sylph of Space? How are you going to be an incarnation of magical abilities without going godmode?

Damn Seers.
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>>81535848
my nigga
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>>81535837
How can Caliborn have been affected by the retcon if his entire universe only exists thanks to the influence of the retcon?
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>>81535860
I don't understand how that's an unresolved plot thread though
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>>81535869
Yeah, those fucking seers, man.
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>>81535638
>Jade so happy to see him after three years she just starts kissing him everywhere and won't stop
Yes please
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>>81535908
It's not, >>81535860 was misinterpreting me. I was just giving elaboration on how "the pre-retcon timeline produced a universe!" is a shit explanation of the Erisolsprite dilemma.
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>>81535691
didn't terezi say her aspect was important to who she was
kanaya never got deep into hers
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>>81535742
>>81535782
Still her fault.
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>>81535523
Even a broken clock is right twice a day

and if there was something that "random homestuck fan #[insert number here]" did to deserve every bit of my hate I wouldn't be aware of it because I keep a safe distance from the fanbase (to avoid contagions). This is my own theory

That though ASPECT is just the powers related to the constructs of the game, The CLASSES are maps out how to use your powers, is tailored to your personality and the personal quest is trying to mature out of a "overlying flaw" that your class indicates you have

in Seers case it's the fact that they believe they know of things that is impossible to know and not focusing on the things they know a lot about (in other words not playing to their strengths). It's a flaw that restricts their powers severely since they are suppose to be all about knowledge.
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>>81535231
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>>81535899
Well, he doesn't have to be affected directly. But he is indirectly affected by what happens in B2, since he interacts with it. Thus, changing B2 can affect him.
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>Gamzee in the fridge goes through the black hole to Caliborn's session and that's how he meets him

motherfucker
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>>81535955
Heir's too? Hax. Hax, I say.

Hello, is this the great glub? I'd like to report a hacker by the name of John Eggbert aka GhostlyTrickster. I'll have you know my dad works for GameBro.
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>>81535638
You have a davejade folder or something? Would you upload it?
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>>81535869
Why do people assume you were ever supposed to be god tier in order to be able to have superpowers?
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I can't believe late-game SBURB is a bullet hell game
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>>81536053
How does Earth get into that session?
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>>81535899
For all we know they had entered a regular doomed timeline by the time of game over. Actually it seems pretty likely.
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>>81536144
Naw, that's just postgame content.
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>>81534912
>please do not respost
>reposts
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>>81536053
does that mean dirk's yaldabaoth is the one caliborn just killed
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>>81536151
The kids take it there when they make the new universe.
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>>81535968
What exactly is the Erisolsprite dilemma, I'm drawing a blank. I know for sure that the sprites survived Game Over and were carried into the retconned session, resulting in 2 of them existing together.

>>81535869
Seers obviously revolve greatly around knowledge so maybe it's just natural for them to be so in tune with their powers without actually going God Tier. Not sure if this applies to Kankri.
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>>81534917
I honestly thought he was going to pull a goku and stab all of them trough the chest but this makes more sense
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It's a bit too big to upload.
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>>81536172
Isn't trollian only capable of interacting with the alpha timeline? In Davesprite's timeline he mentioned that the trolls stopped talking to them after John died.
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reminder that one of the most bit-part trolls has played an important role in every major flash since Make Her Pay
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>>81536220
Is it ever explained why they decided to take Earth?
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>>81536292
She wasn't in Game Over
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>>81534744
remember the whole talk vriska had about how the actual powers of god tiers are the unimportant part and the thing that really matters is how they determine your 'role'?
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>>81536294
Well, Vriska suggested it. I guess mainly to use as a planet to settle on. And it was originally Condy's idea to use it as Alternia 2.
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will we ever find out the deal with this lil nigga
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>>81533282
Nepeta is shit.
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>>81536363
No
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>>81536278
Pretty sure that's correct

Also, it's never been confirmed, but my headcanon is that Jade didn't actually die in Davesprite's timeline. Since the Medium is in a separate realm of spacetime than the B1 universe, but Sburb normally syncs contact between B1 and the Medium for the sake of convenience, the splitoff into a doomed timeline desynched it all. From Jade's perspective, none of it ever happened.
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>>81536278
If they're communicating across sessions or universes that's true.
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>>81536252
How big?
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>>81536292
>bit-part
>robot
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>>81536113
Godmode clearly unlocks great powers of their aspect; just look at Jade. Doesn't show one once of affinity towards space and then becomes god-mode and instantly starts shrinking planets pocket-sized.

On the other hand, people who are not godmode usually only manifest powers through artifacts constructed from grist (Aradia and Dave with their time artifacts, Eridan with his wands). We see god modes directly wielding their powers with their hands all the time, but I can't think of a time when someone did the same thing without being God.

People apparently still have an affinity and a knowledge of their aspect from the get go, but it isn't manifested as "powers" at least not in the physical sense. Or if it is it's very rare and rather subdued. They ARE however. depending on training and concentration, able to be very ATTUNED to their attribute (even before Dave went godmode, he had a sense of doomed timelines and stable time loops). And Terezi's powers being focused not around manifestations, but around planning and analysis certainly helps with that.
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>>81535869
>>81535955
Sylphs are supposedly passive right? Maybe kanaya just doesn't get magic powers.
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UPDATE
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>>81536239
The Erisolsprite dilemma is that there's presumably only one Caliborn that made it into his session and was in contact with the alpha kids, but in the conversation where he gave Jake the code for the red sucker Jake went on about how Gamzee made "mr erisol", who never existed in the post-retcon timeline. So either there's somehow a second Caliborn (who's supposed to be the most important person in the comic's cosmology thanks to being the Lord of Time and all) who got into his session, Erisolsprite stowed away on Lowas and went back in time to help Jake, who he hated, all over again, Caliborn somehow had the patience to have effectively the same conversation twice, post-retcon Jake was somehow really fucking high several hours before the current spot we're at on the comic and hallucinated the existence of two people, or Caliborn's actions were somehow influenced by the retcon even though he only exists because of it.
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>>81536444
I was part of a research team trying to create a sentient AI. We succeeded, but all it does is trawl the entirety of the internet and save DaveJade pics to the company server
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>>81536467
Made me look.
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>>81536482
>Caliborn's actions were somehow influenced by the retcon even though he only exists because of it.
That would be a paradox if retconning actually followed any sort of rules.
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>>81536043
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>>81536467
It's been years since I've heard this shit, and it feels truely nostalgic to fall for it again.

But fuck you though
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meowrails when
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>>81536459
A fair bit of jade was becoming Dog tier, not just god tier. That explains the crazy power jump.
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>>81536459
Jade's powers were augmented by the fact that she also got all of Bec's abilities. We don't know what a "regular" God-Tier Jade would look like, but it wouldn't be as powerful as she is now.
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>>81536482
Caliborn is the equivalent of a retconned ghost still existing. Really the retcon seems to operate on pretty similar rules to the scratch, so outside of the retconned/scratched universe interactions between the two universes continue to have happened.
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>>81536533
good
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>>81536363
He appearified in Jane's island for some reason. Then Jade picked him up and Bec killed it because he don't fucks with that shit. Is Bec the reason Jack was so adamant about murdering frogs? I knows Dersites hate them but it seems Becquerel has his own prejudices against them it seems.
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>>81536252
>>81536511
Man, these recent updates made me remember why I really liked DaveJade.
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>>81536533
>lining it up correctly

YOU FUCKED UP. YOU FUCKED UP.
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>>81536459
There's enough examples of people manifesting some sort of superpower before going god tier that I don't think it makes sense to assume there's any sort of rule about it.
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>>81536533
dead ship
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>>81536537
just dont be an idiot, man
weve already had todays update
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>>81536533
i miss this ship
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>>81536611
I never forgot why.
They're fun.
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>>81536585
>>81536579
>Hivemind 5 second difference
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>>81533613
neat
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>>81536611
DaveJade is the highest-tier ship.
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Wait a second
Caliborn ends up getting the ring of life, Calliope has swirl cheeks and has it in her possession.
DUDE
WHAT IF CALLIOPE GOES TO SLEEP AND BECOMES CALIBORN
AND THE CALIBORN THAT SAW THE VISION ISN'T THE ONE THAT BECOMES LORD ENGLISH
SHITTY TWISTS
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>>81536732

DaveJade is the only good relationship in all of Homestuck, and here's why:

Both characters built on each other in a constructive way. Dave's primary issue is that he has to be the coolkid. In most conversations, he's perpetually defensive, trying to prove that he's really that cool. It's only with Jade (and Terezi, I suppose) that he's willing to drop the facade even a little. Yet nobody except Jade (and maybe Terezi, though it's hard to say what level of irony she was operating on) actually believes for a second that he is cool. The fact that Jade accepts it is what allows him to let his guard down while talking to her. She enables him to move out of his shell and become his own person.

On the other hand, Jade has enormous potential, but no one but Dave recognizes it. Rose mostly ignores her, except for when she wants a prediction, and John regards her as his silly friend but not a whole lot beyond that. Only Dave sees that, with some help, she could become something far greater than she is, and he dedicates a lot of time to helping her achieve that. Look at the client/server relationships: Rose is pretty hands-on with John, but is more concerned with figuring out the game mechanics than helping John out. Dave pretty much leaves Rose alone after she enters, since he knows she'd find being treated like she can't handle herself patronizing. John doesn't really get a chance to do anything with Jade beyond placing the initial entry equipment. But Dave spends a lot of time trying to help Jade figure things out and get situated.

Basically, Dave and Jade compliment and complete each other. No one else in Homestuck has that kind of relationship.
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>>81536753
He had the ring of void, asshole
>b-but they have to be the same ring because twists
nah no
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>>81536527
I'd be much more willing to accept this if "pre-retcon" Caliborn didn't do anything after that Erisolsprite conversation, but he did a fuck of a lot of things. In fact, he was beaten up by John during Game Over, which was after John got retcon powers but before Erisolsprite never existed. Did John somehow materialize into both "pre-retcon Caliborn"'s timeline and "post-retcon Caliborn"'s timeline?
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>>81536773
Someone posted my rant

I'm so proud <3
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>>81536773
you keep saying this but your second paragraph is still full of shit
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>>81536511
nigger that's fucking cute
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>>81536783
What? You're so overthinking this. What is the contradiction here?
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>>81536820
That actually wasn't me this time. I've officially created a copypasta.

That said, what was full of shit about it?
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Wait, holy fuck, was Rose using light magic or some shit or is she still in cahoots with the Horrorterrors?
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>>81536859
ive replied to it before im not gonna go digging up what i said
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>>81536880
ok cool
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>>81536871
Looks like light magic. She did that just before Game Over too.
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>>81536880
Wow, how very Karkat of you
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>>81536773
MUH DAVEREZI
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>>81536871
That depends on whether magic is real or fake which... we do not fucking know?
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>>81536886
Why you need to go and ruin a good thing posting fuc boi Dave and FAS mouthed Jade like that?
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remember that old character powerlevel list

that should be updated for the flash
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>>81536886
>david
Also what the fuck is up with Dave's hair
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>>81536975
Who?
Those aren't Jade and Dave anon, that's David and Harley.
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>>81536981
Roxy is absolute highest

BEST FUCKING GIRL
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>>81536773
>DaveKat is the only good relationship in all of Homestuck, and here's why:
>Both characters built on each other in a constructive way. Dave's primary issue is that he has to be the coolkid. In most conversations, he's perpetually defensive, trying to prove that he's really that cool. It's only with Karkat (and Terezi, I suppose) that he's willing to drop the facade even a little. Yet nobody except Karkat (and maybe Terezi, though it's hard to say what level of irony she was operating on) actually believes for a second that he is cool. The fact that Karkat accepts it is what allows him to let his guard down while talking to him. He enables him to move out of his shell and become his own person.
>On the other hand, Karkat has enormous potential, but no one but Dave (and possibly the Mayor) recognizes it. The trolls mostly ignore him, and John regards him as his silly friend but not a whole lot beyond that. Only Dave sees that, with some help, he could become something far greater than he is, and he dedicates a lot of time to helping him achieve that
>Basically, Dave and Karkat compliment and complete each other. No one else in Homestuck has that kind of relationship.
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>>81536985
he has davekat hair because hes cheating on jade
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i think we are forgetting the best part of the flash
what is the best part of the flash
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>>81536981
This flash showed that TEAMWORK stats are not all created equal. Dirk's TEAMWORK stat being absolutely abysmal. Tripping over everyone's toes out there, really making a mess of himself, not taking any particular advantage of the fray motif, just kept trying to bravado out a soul.
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is Terezi the strongest non god tier character?
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>>81537065
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>>81536947
Well, I'll fucking call channeling your aspect to do superpower shit magic above anything else. Expect with Hope. White Science is for the real gangstas.

>>81536981
>>81537016
Roxy gave no fucks. She fought with her fists and went hard as fuck in the mspaint.

>>81537072
Roxy losing her shit against the Condesce.
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>>81537101
probably yeah
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>>81537101
probably
unless gamzee counts
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So that whole dealio with Jade following around the dogs and sticking herself in between them, that was to keep them from hurting others and ruining shit in their wake right? That was the one bit I was a little confused on. At first it seemed to me like she was escorting them somewhere. Really all in all I don't think it accomplished much.
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>>81537072
Either Wizard tornadoes, or sprite combat in general.
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>>81537065
THE FORESHADOWING
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>>81537101
dade
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>>81537072
When Dad breaks out
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So I recalled those old shit gifs where people would overlay homestuck characters' heads onto shit

Should I finish this and put clover's face on the leprechaun?
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>>81537072
Either the x3 DECAPITATION COMBO, Roxy showing )(IC her stabs, or PM FINALLY defeating Jack.
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>>81537125
close but no
>>81537155
close
>>81537166
veryyy close
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>>81537150
i guess she thought they can be better if they were both allies
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>>81537101
Is she really that "strong" though? It seems like her main strength is in assisting other people.
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>>81537072
Cans
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>>81537190
yes
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>>81537101
Roxy weaponizing her rogue of void abilities.
It seems so obvious in retrospect but I never considered her doing that before.
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>>81537150
I feel like she expected them to obey her so she could do something important but Paradog Space wasn't having any of that shit.
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>>81537065
HUSSIEEEEEEEE
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>>81537214
she was still able to use her aspect to it's best abilities as far as we know
most characters didn't really start using their aspect until they were god tier
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>>81537252
Roxy's God-Tier
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>>81536783
Since John is apparently immune to grandfather paradoxes now, I'm going to go with the idea that he managed to actually edit (not split) Caliborn's single timeline, changing him into a Caliborn with slightly different memories. Could be important down the line.
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>>81537150
Basically she is useless.
She wanted to stop them from fighting but underestimated PM's justice determination.
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>>81537264
Hey look, a fat!Vriska cosplay.
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does homestuck still make women into lesbians?
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>>81537065
holy shit
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the condy, felt and spades fight are all equally good and I can't stop watching them
>the music when it zooms in on derse, switches to jake, dirk gets shot and dave/terezi use their fraymotifs
fuck

I also loved when aradia and meenah combined their attacks
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>>81537065
PURE
P O T T E R Y
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>>81537312
Um, yeah, I'm aware of that?
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>>81537314
So where did Caliborn's original set of memories come from?
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>>81537214
You do remember how harsh of a thrashing she took in Game Over, right? She got CLOWNED so fucking hard but continued on to the end.

>>81537065
HOLD THE FUCK UP
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>>81537190
nyce
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The whole Heir of Grief part of the flash was fucking amazing

>>81537355
You were replying to a comment asking about the strongest non-God-Tier character. Roxy doesn't apply.
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>>81537357
From watching events occur before the retcon happened?

>>81537393
Whoops, I misquoted
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>>81537101
Gamzee. It's a tie up between him and Vriska as the two strongest trolls, and Vriska is one of the strongest out of the kids and trolls. And she's Godtier.

Gamzee could honestly be the strongest out of all the kids and trolls.
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>>81533505
Even his theory on Jake and Jane becoming possessed by LE as a final fight is more probable than mituna method
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>>81537336
>That distorted Harlequin melody starts playing when Terezi and Dave start doing the fraymotif with multiple gears
>The music kicking up during the Condy fight with Roxy's shoryuken
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>>81537423
But Caliborn can only have existed if the retcon already happened.
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>>81537190
The scene from It's Always Sunny where Charlie catches a leprechaun would also fit with this
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>>81537357
Maybe nowhere now, they're orphaned data. That's just how bullshit retcon powers are.
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>>81537357
Fuck it, I'm gonna chalk anything weird timeline-wise that Caliborn does up to Lord of Time Shenanigans.
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>>81537452
Again, you're assuming retcons work under the same rules as regular time travel.
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Toby's tweet about the title of his track in the flash has more likes + retweets than hussie's tweet announcing the flash itself.
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>>81537072
Dad taking a punch from Cans without even fucking flinching.
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>>81537452
Retcons do not extend through paradox space, they seem to be restricted to the universe and attached medium they occur in. There is no more paradox than the trolls having interacted with the pre-scratch kids despite a scratch happening later.
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>>81537426
Ahh. True black romance between a clown and a clown whore.
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>>81537550
Just Huss my shit up, senpai.
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>>81537483
I mean, they don't, but I can't envision a chain of events that would create a Caliborn who experiences the events of a pre-retcon universe but can have his memories changed by some abstract cosmic happenstance that is not in the same universe as him.

>>81537580
The pre-scratch session still existed in the same frog, as Calliope told us earlier. Pre-retcon C doesn't exist.
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Alt Calliope is going to die and take the green sun out with her, helping the good guys out.
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Next 40 pages has Doc Scratch appearing and asking the reader if they thought it was over
He then mocks the reader for assuming that because there's still things unresolved.
He then shortly recaps the creation of the new universe and what the kids do after that. He's in a completely white room.
Then the act curtain gears start again and the true final battle against Lord English begins as Vriska opens the weapon.
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>>81537065
THEY WERE JUST KIDS BACK THEN HOLY FUCK
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>>81537670
By... depowering Jade, Gcatarvos sprite, PM, and the other ring? I'm like 99% sure that Lord English in no way derives power from the green sun.
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>>81537738
rest forever, here in our heart
the last and final moment is yours
and agony is your triumph
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>>81537550
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>>81537738
CANON
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>>81537379
Trolls can take a beating. Look at Vriska when she got thrown around by Aradiabot, and leaked more blood than a faulty tampon.

Held out for ages.
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>>81537550
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>tfw some random nobody fuckboi fucks up your entire team
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>>81531543
what's their safeword?
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>>81537065
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>>81537744
he has green sun powers from doc scratch, they just kind of take a backseat to all his other crazy powers
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>>81537637
We don't know exactly what would have happened if the retcon never happened though. Maybe John wouldn't have lost the ring because he wouldn't have disappeared while not wearing it, and the session wouldn't have gotten so fucked up and they managed to create their universe? Or the Condesce could have succeeded.
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>>81537744
Wasn't Scratch a First Guardian? And isn't the Green Sun responsible for his Omniscience and other green sun powers. I'm sure Lord English inherited them. Remember when he first appeared and summoned his peg leg? i just wonder how much of a depower it will be if it happens.
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20 minutes
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So what was your favorite part of the flash?

Mine was when Jade was "battling"/teleporting around with Bec Noir and PM.
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>>81537854
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>>81537838
I like to think that's why troll society doesn't use guns unless they're fucking lasers or something else absurd like that, because if everyone was just shooting each other everyone would die because lethal wounds take forever to actually kill so the dying would fire off their OWN killshots as well.
You need to cut off limbs or pulp organs to actually disable the enemy.
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>>81537744

>I'm like 99% sure that Lord English in no way derives power from the green sun.

Then why does he crackle with the Green Sun sparks exactly like all the other First Guardians

Answer is you're wrong, he does have Green Sun powers.
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Unironically stolen from something awful
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>>81537905
Mine was PM punching her out.

Okay no I know this sounds like me just writing the opposite of what you wrote, but seriously. Imagine how stupid it would have been if Hussie actually followed through with the idea that Jade can instantly calm anyone that's even a little bit Bec-like. It was dumb enough when it worked on Jack.

But then we have PM who has the absolute best reason to ignore Jade and she did and she fucking sliced that fucker's arm off and made a big fucking giant pose like castle fucking greyskull is right fucking behind her.
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>>81537854
Antidisestablishmentarianism
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>>81537550

Hussie hasn't used Twitter for anything useful since forever. It's a miracle he even has followers.
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>>81537884
I don't think the leg thing was really a de-powerment, just caliborn technically losing the leg again.
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>>81537879
But then we'd have two Caliborns running around (which seems icky thanks to Caliborn's status as Lord of Time). Also, the events leading to Lord English's creation seem to require the existence of the retcon mechanic, so if there's a Caliborn in a reality without the retcon mechanic he'd just be stuck in his session doing fucking nothing for all eternity despite a promise otherwise from Yaldabaoth, which doesn't seem reasonable.

Here's a diagram of why I don't buy the "retcon affected Caliborn" idea, by the way.
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i hate homestuck, or at least i thought i do, but i'm pretty sure i still completely hate it
and yet i'm here talking about how great the comic is
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>>81538083
Join the club, anon

I hate it and yet I love it
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>>81538083
Don't worry, Hussie still has time to fuck everything up.
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>>81538049
What, you think Caliborn is immune to doomed timelines?
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>>81538226
The "alpha timeline" is defined as the one where he exists; yeah, he's immune to them.
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>>81538083
I've made peace with the fact that I think the Game Over plot was completely stupid. Like I'm not holding out hope that Hussie will redeem it in the next few updates but if the next few updates are fun regardless then I won't let that ruin it.

Like I COULD be thinking "wow we could have had Collide happen without the Game Over bullshit easily" but I choose not to.
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>>81538083
It's the same for all of us anon. We'll never be free.
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>>81537980
Beyond his initial awakening, still quaking with the remnant of Doc Scratch's power, she almost never cackles with Green Sun energy. His infinite energy and indestructibility comes from Yaldabaoth, his time traveling abilities come from his Lord of Time nature and his various jujus.

Lord English BROKE OUT of Doc Scratch. His far-more-powerful indestructible spirit was merely residing in the first guardian; he was not created from its being. He might retain a fragment of the Green Sun's energy from hiding in the body of a first guardian for so long, but it means absolutely nothing to him. He certainly doesn't retain Doc Scratch's pseudo-omniscience (as indicated by the cue ball head quite visibly shattering) and it is not in any way reliant on the Green Sun's continued existence.
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>>81535862
That makes a lot of sense actually with the whole ring of life and void duality. Caliborn probably just woke up one day and it was on his hand since Calliope's wearing her ring.
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>>81538258
>The "alpha timeline" is defined as the one where he exists
I don't think it's that simple at all. Like, he just poofs out of existence any time something happens that causes a doomed timeline?
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>>81538043
No I was referring to how he used Green Sun piwers to summon his leg. I was ccurious if losing the GS powers would be of any major significance to him.
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>666 replies
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http://archive.is/20130109111806/mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/12341136347/le-factoids

Hussie said in a Q&A that LE has Green Sun powers.
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>>81538368
You poopnose, you beat me to it!
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Gotta admit
That first two minutes or so with the opening song and all the setup
The giant army in front of lord english

Got me hype as fuck. That reprise of showtime probably helped a lot.
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so serenity is the juju, right? what does it mean though? i forgot what the deal with the juju is.
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>>81538458
What "the" juju? There's like a zillion jujus.
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>>81538458
what?
i dont think anything implied serenity is the juju
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>>81538520
I think he means the one in the red chest Vriska was sitting on.
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Consider the following: Caliborn lied about becoming Lord English.
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THE DETAILS MAN
THE FUCKING DETAILS
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>>81538578
No, that's dumb stupid
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>>81538520
i have no fucking idea. i just remember there being something about a mysterious juju, which was supposed to be in the chest that he was opening.

>>81538524
but immediately after caliborn opened up the chest, it cut to serenity, who has a swirly motif with her glowy butt. i thought the implication was that she's the juju or something.
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>>81538375
Hussie also said in a Q&A that Sollux's full name is Solluxander
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>>81538575
I think that was just the House
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>>81532121
Literally the best stretch of Homestuck was that short, pre-scratch window when the kids and trolls were talking to each other, and the memos. That couldn't have happened without the first trolls.
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>>81538587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvc9_GDoWI4 this describes EOA6 perfectly.
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>>81538258
The alpha timeline is defined (by noted half-truth teller Doc Scratch at that) as one in which LORD ENGLISH exists. Caliborn is a significant contributing element of Lord English but if we're being absolutely honest probably a distinct individual.
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>>81538587
Nice didn't even spot that
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>>81538619
I want to believe.
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>>81538587
god damn
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>>81538697
Believe it

http://mspaintadventureswiki.tumblr.com/post/63822840770/reddit-or-not-here-we-dumb-archive
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>>81533657
Yeah but she's funny as hell so who cares.
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>>81538797
>Who's mule is this
>Who is mule is this
Goddammit, Rose
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>>81538578
No I don't think he technically lied about that part. He's just mistaken about some things.
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>>81538758
I believe. Thank you, based anon.

Also last for ara.
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>>81538828
PSEUDO INTELLECTUAL 13 YEAR OLD GIRL
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Does this mean that they fracked?
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>>81537851
still waiting for that Mr.Seven sequel
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>>81538881
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>>81538900
yes
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>>81538900
>>
>>81538900
Actually a dave wearing terezi's skin
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>>81538900
Yeah
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Update soon or later?
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>>81539005
There will be an update in the future.
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>>81538868
>>81538608
Well I mean what if in a shitty twist the big green monster we just saw fighting wasn't Caliborn? Would you be mad?
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>>81539005
NOW.
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>>81539025
Would be remarkably stupid
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>>81538900
The real question is how did they doom themselves on the meteor.
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>>81539005
There should be an update tomorrow, technically the EOA6 flash was supposed to be released today (04/06)
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>>81539057
Terezi already had a bunch of Dave's stuff by alchemizing them when they were just interacting across sessions so maybe she just made herself his shirt after... cybering or whatever.
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>>81539057
I was asking myself the same thing. Maybe this actually happened when meteor landed or perhaps gamzee went crazy again and killed everyone
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>>81539057
They made Daverezi canon
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Why does Jade still have the red reminder on her finger
She already is dealing with the Becs
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>>81539082
Tomorrow is soon
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>>81539162
it's not to reminder her about the Becs anon

It's to reminder about Dave
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>>81538940
I'm going to take that as a definite confirmation for Daverezi. Couples sharing wardrobe items is almost as cute as it is fun in real life.
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>>81539162
It's gonna be her wedding ring
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>>81539196
nice
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>>81539251
wedding string
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>>81539251
adorable
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>>81539171
Almost too soon. I don't think I'm ready.
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>>81531288
A6A6A6A2 starts today, you mean
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page 10 fuckers, new thread
>>81538420
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>>81539364
the page name made it very clear this is the END OF ACT 6
now for the enormous intermission, post-descend style
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>>81539236
it should exist in atleast one universe
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>>81532706
>Karkat,Kanaya,Vriska,Tavros
But that's literally what happened. 4 or 5 canon trolls, the rest are irrelevant cameos.
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