Is it over for Snyder?

> jerking off to box office figures
>>>/tv/

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>>81363778
Anecdote time: Friend who works in a theather and liked the movie is laughing his ass off because they had to cancel the 10am showing on a saturday because no one showed up to see it.
10 people were interested in Barbie: Spy Squad though.

>>81364008
Also mind you, they were sturggling to be able to meet the demand for Deadpool around this same time.

>>81363800
Isn't that what DC fags did all the time?
>Who cares what the critics say as long as enough people watch it?

>>81363800
>"It doesn't matter what critics think, it doesn't matter what the public thinks, it is making money anyway"

Sound familiar?

Holy shit, if it made only 15 million yesterday, it sure as hell won't go north of 900. That pretty much means that the movie will be unprofitable.

>>81364008
And the theater in my area sells out every showing, both regular and 3D.

Anecdotes are meaningless.

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‘Batman V Superman’ Takes A Dive With $51M-$56M Second Weekend – Friday Evening B.O. Update

>Well, the poor critical reviews and mixed word of mouth are finally taking a toll on the second weekend ticket sales for Warner Bros.’ Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Tonight’s revised FSS average ranges between $51M-$56M. At the low end, that’s a 69% drop, matching the second frame freefall of 20th Century Fox’s X-Men Origins: Wolverine. Worse news? One rival studio calculation has the DC superhero mashup at a 71% decline with a FSS of $48M. All of this despite the fact that BvS has the Friday-Sunday period all to itself, without any new wide threats from the other majors plus the added benefit of 30% K-12 schools off, and another 9% colleges on break per ComScore.

BRAVO ZACK

>>81364668
It will be profitable, but barely worth the investment for this kind of thing.
The reason why they want double the budget always is because studios are not going to risk 400 million just to earn 300.
If you are going to risk a fuckload of money, you want a huge profit.
For WB it would be fine, but the jews in the suits want shekels.

>>81364773
And in mine, they only sold around 150 tickets for a 8 pm showing in a 700 seat IMAX theater.

>>81364800
>Superhero franchise movie “Batman v Superman: The Dawn of Justice” slumped at the Chinese box office as it entered its second week of release.

>On Friday (April 1) the film earned $2.57 million (RMB16.7 million) and slipped from first place to fourth in the Chinese box office rankings. That score represents a drop of 85% compared with the previous Friday (March 25,) when it opened in China with $18.4 million as part of a globally coordinated day-and-date release.

http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/batman-v-superman-china-box-office-1201744114/

JL1 is too late, but can we expect Snyder to be gone after it?

>>81364841
If this one underperforms and JL gets panned critically too, you can bet they'll kick Snyder out of this.

>>81364841
>JL1 is too late

Friendly reminder that WB cancelled JL:Immortal and Superman Lives just weeks before they were supposed to start filming

I fucking hate WB

>>81364841
>JL1 is too late
No it's not. They just need to say "it's delayed for creative reasons" and give Snyder the boot

>>81364818
It's also worth noting that the effects of a movie's prestige is financially felt more deeply in sequels and related films than in the original film's box office. It's entirely possible that BvS be profitable, but also seriously hurt the brand, tanking ticket sells of Justice League before the first trailer is even seen.

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>They're this desperate to give the movie positive advertising

>>81364935
>''BvS is the highest grossing movie in a 30th of March that also was Wednesday''
-Anon, 4chan

I'm starting to believe /co/ is becoming like /v/.

Except instead of viral marketers hucking EA trash, it's undercover posters by Disney spreading negativity and misinformation about WB films.

>>81364935
HA! Took me a moment to get the significance of your pic.

>>81363778
REMOVE SNYDER

>>81364895
The brand was already pretty badly hurt by Man of Steel, but it really took a hit with BvS now. This movie was WB's chance to make people believe in their brand and they blew it. I'm really concerned about the DCEU now, hopefully Suicide Squad will be better and they'll get back on track.

>>81364935
>twitter reviews
Haha oh wow. Is this from a tv spot?

>>81364959
>muh Disney conspiracy
Yeah sure, whatever makes you feel better.

>>81364959
You must be new here. Negativity is the natural state of 4chan. All of 4chan. The people posting shit-eating hype over every weekly commercials force-fed to the masses? Those were the shills.

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>>81364935
>pic related became true

>>81364668
It's selling mad merchandise negro, it'll be profitable.

>>81364841
Why do you think they would have any intention of keeping that Hack any longer? Even if it makes money, they won't.

Good

This movie not making a billion is literally the only hope of getting Hack Snyder away from the DCEU

>>81365018
Yeah, because Hasbro and Mattel are stupid enoung to give all the money to WB

>>81365046
As I recall the initial plan was Snyder would be directing or producing the JL films, though that was very early on, they've probably since been thinking how to turn away from that.
I think the question/risk now is if it does not make enough money will they replace Snyder or push the DCEU back for some sort of reboot, Flashpoint perhaps.

>>81364974
>Haha oh wow. Is this from a tv spot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bE8E269qFY

>>81364959
I love this idea that Disney has some kind of major conspiracy going on when the reality is that would probably cost too much money to do something like that and in real life, they're just sitting back and laughing at this whole situation

>>81365104
NOWAY
There is no way that they're creative or risk taking enough to use an in universe event to reboot the direction of their properties. I think they'll push forward and try to correct the course as they go. Something about Supes death giving him a new outlook on life. I'm fucking guessing here I thought they'd make adjustments after MoS not double down on mopey uncertain Superman. Maybe they'll think this is good enough and won't change anything at all.

>>81363778
Who is this guy and why should I care?

>>81363778
>mfw it will do clean over a billion and marveldrones will be salty af

I think it'll just reach 1 bill. If this movie was great and had 80%+ RT it could've doubled whatever BvS is going to make now with this garbage.

>>81363778
Are Fridays box office numbers even out yet?

>>81365104
I think it's very short sighted of DC to give all the keys of their billion dollar franchise to just one person. They should've had contingency plans. Snyder should've been made to take back seat regardless of the outcome of BvS.

>>81365256
Well Marvel technically sort of does that with Feige. But he just pulls loose strings from way on high I guess so they don't have a visual only specialist actually trying to write a plot, or well failing to write one.

>>81364935
I have a feeling that the speechless one isn't even positive in context.

>>81365256
But they do have different directors on different movies, idiot.

>>81365198
He's a movie insider. His box office predictions are always spot on

>>81365288
Feige is a different story because he's essentially the one solo guy creating the universe, but not a director or writer. He just shapes the stories behind the scenes and leaves the movies with other people. DC seems to have put EVERYTHING in Snyder's hands

Also, Feige is with Marvel Studios which is solely a part of Disney while there is no actual DC studios, it's just WB who puts out DC movies

>>81365236
Your post makes no sense.

>>81365306
Yeah sure disney poster, I'll make sure to believe that like the marvel-watching sheep that I am XD

>>81365288
The DC equivalent of Feige is Geoff Johns, except Feige actually has authority.

>>81365345
Yeah, they really should've put Johns in charge of all of this, but I have a feeling WB just sees him as "that lame comic nerd" they don't take seriously.

>>81364773
but what if the majority of anecdotes say the same thing? what grade are you in? this is pretty basic math here bucko

>>81365345
>>81365362
How is Johns as a businessman though? Would he be able to handle big studio politics and marketing and all that shit?

Marvel really lucked out with Feige since he's a great businessman first and a comic book fan second.

>"HURR ZACK SNYDER BTFO!!!!"
>BvS still turned a (small) profit since it made more than double its budget back

lel

>>81365460
Batman and Superman should not be turning a (small) profit.

>Still completely forgetting they need at minimum 800 million

>post yfw WB hires Joss Whedon to direct the Justice League.

>>81365495
The tonal shift would be hysterical.

>>81365521
fuck, just the color palate swap would break a few necks

>>81365495
>laughingevans.png

>>81365495
>getting Marvel's sloppy seconds
Only the absolute madmen at WB would do this.

Will still break a billion. Screencap this, drones

>>81365460
We've been getting posts like this since the film was released, followed by a flurry of "this wasn't supposed to happen" once the preorder tickets sales were reported. /co/ is really desperate for this movie to fail.

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>>81365495
http://www.mtv.com/news/2141510/joss-whedon-batman/

Marvel Defense Force has been going into overdrive since BvS released. And just on this board, but all over the Internet.

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>>81365582
I, for once, want this movie to fail because DC fans busted everyone's balls for months and they deserve the worst. I reckon a lot of people feel like this.

>>81365460
Months ago
>hurr durr BvS is gonna be the best movie ever, Critically and Financially, will be nominated for an academy award because its so deep and beat star wars and avatar in sales.
Critics pan it
>hurr durr it okay if critics hate it, it would still. make record monies
fails at that
>hurr durr we arent BTFO i made a profit

I've never seen a fan base lower the bar so fast

>>81365620
I can't tell if that's false-flagging or sincere

>>81365460
>http://deadline.com/2016/03/batman-v-superman-deadpool-growth-engine-kevin-tsuijhara-warner-bros-peter-bart-1201725169/
>it may have to generate between $800 million and $1 billion to break even

Will we get Bat-family movies? Grayson, Red Hood and the Outlaws and such?
Or perhaps Teen Titans somehow?

>>81365612
I'm on to you, Image Slut

People will still be talking about BvS and MoS five years from now where as nobody really has anything to say, let alone remember much about Thor or Iron Man movies. The test of time shows what movies have substance to be remembered.

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>>81364122
Wow, I'm still surprised after a month that Deadpool got so much money with Ryan finally getting a break with the cape movies, and in his favor no doubt.

Can't say the same for Ben, which is a sad shame for him.

>>81365675
Yeah they'll be talking about how shit these movies were and how they killed the DCCU before it even got off the ground.

>>81365681
Everyone liked him and he's seen as a victim of this shitfest, I've never actually seen that happen before.

>>81365642
What ,weren't you here the past 5 months?

>>81365584
Do you think he's even going to bother with feminist pandering?

That turned into a shitshow the last time he tried.

>>81365675
>Thor
Don't remind me. I don't think even a tv series would've saved him, as his friends from Asgard won't have as that much screentime compared to his friends on earth.

>patrician director tries to elevate capeshit by tying it into mythological and religious contexts
>gets shit on for it by lowest common denominator

These people deserve Whedon

>>81365681
Reynolds had lots of control over it as I recall, Affleck I guess had to put up with Snyder, waiting on his solo Bat movies, he is a director and such himself, not exactly hard to do Bats either, especially nowadays with tech that doesn't make his stuff look campy or anything.

>>81365718
Batman of Manslaughter is still a topic worth discussing, based on the archived threads.

I actually had to make a headcanon while watching that he had been broken after Robin's plausible death in that movie's timeline

>>81365661

>tfw Red Hood and the Outlaws is the only good movie the DCEU produces before it gets canned

>post yfw it makes less than Deadpool

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>snyder is actively killing any chance I had of seeing a solo aquaman or flash movie in my lifetime

>>81365741
With Ben as director of his own Batman movies, you think he'll do good seeing his track record on his own-directed movies?

>>81365756
Not happening, but the fact that Deadpool made so much money without China and being R-rated is still mindblowing to me.

I never thought it would do this well.

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>>81365756

>>81365738
>elevate capeshit
Here's the problem, no one wants deep philosophical themes from a funnybook movie unless they are an emotionally stunted manchild.
And even if they did, they wouldn't want it from a simpleton like Snyder.
Proper movies and books exist to fill that need.

>>81365766
Flash at least has a series, and it has Grodd and other notable non-human enemies.

Aquaman will suffer due to "fish talker=shit" thing until someone would give it as much heart, or if Marvel will round up rumors or hints to do a Namor movie.

Is Namor's rights back at MCU?

>>81365724
So it's false-flagging then.

>>81364872
well there's much less time to put this movie on hold
Affleck is super busy this year and won't be able to film JL any other time
Shit the people who are hoping it gets delayed needed it to happen after opening weekend

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>>81365582
>/co/ is really desperate for this movie to fail.
Honestly I not only want, but NEED this movie to fail so Warner gets the message these movies are terrible and to rebrand themselves so we can finally get the chance to see a good Superman, a good Wonder Woman and a good Justice League movie in the future.

The gross misinterpretation of the characters and franchises involved with the abortion that is the current DC movies depresses the shit out of me. I'd rather rewatch the animated direct to video movies any day than giving the live action ones any money.

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>>81365788

>>81365801
Third time you say that, I'm starting to believe you are the original poster of that thread.

>>81365799
rumor is still with universal, same with hulk solo movies hence why hulk will be teaming up with thor

>>81365495
He can direct part 2

>>81365738
The key word here is TRIES.
Because he fails miserably. Morrison has done this shit with success before.

>>81365738
christianity is the lowest common denominator of mythological and religious subtext

should have gone with Zoroastrianism.
>Truth, Justice, and the American way
>truth, justice, and patriotism were the three most important tenets of Zoroaster, in that order
shit writes itself

>>81365806
I just want a director change. At this point, Snyder's Michael Bay but with prettier, consistent pyrotechnics.

Not sure if the pushing for the Justice League cameo was by him or Warner though.

>>81365738
>patrician director tries to elevate capeshit by tying it into mythological and religious contexts
>tries to elevate
>tries

There's your problem.

Snyder tried and failed because he's a fucking hack who doesn't understand what actual depth is.

>>81365675
People still talking about Batman & Robin as the shitty movie who almost killed Batman franchise. Your point?

>>81365799
The fish talker thing could be dispelled by having him summon krakens and megalodons and all sorts of giant spooky shit.
If they really want to freak people out, have him launch tons of box jellyfish at people and visualize them screaming their lungs out.

My concern with him is will they have to do a lot of underwater stuff, I can't imagine that not looking campy or like he's holding his breath a lot, or maybe I'm forgetting some movies that pulled it off?

>>81365661
Pretty sure the Titans show is still on the books, so don't expect a movie.

>>81365837
Honestly, I wish Snyder had a good screenwriter at his side telling him he's dumb when he wants to do something different because I like his slow mo punches.
But I haven't been able to enjoy a single movie from his since Sucker Punch because everything is super dull. He's a great visual director but has the storytelling skills of a potato.

>>81365738
>Zack Snyder
>patrician director
>elevating anything
Is this b8?

>>81365875

movies will always take precedent if they're serious about it

>>81365799

>Talking to fish is the thing that makes Aquaman cool
>The closest you'll come to seeing this realized on the big screen is if he goes "Shark, eat that guy."

>>81365877
More than just a shitty storyteller, I think he's actually somewhat retarded.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/03/25/batman-v-superman-jimmy-olsen
>Early on in production, Snyder wanted to cast a famous face in the part so he could pull a Psycho – destabilizing the audience by unexpectedly killing off someone they thought would be a main character.

>The actor he wanted ended up becoming Lex Luthor instead.

>“I thought, if it were Jesse Eisenberg and he got out and he goes, ‘I’m Jimmy Olsen,’ you’d be like, oh my God, we’re gonna have Jimmy Olsen in the whole movie, right?’” Snyder says. “And then if he got shot, you’d just be like, ‘What!? You can’t do that.’”
And no one thought to stop the idiot.

>>81365793
>no one wants deep philosophical themes from a funnybook movie

Honestly I don't agree with that statement, I think there is room in the genre for that very thing.

What I'd say is, nobody came looking for deep philosophical themes in a movie with an "X vs Y" title.

Daredevil is widely popular with both fans and critics despite spending considerable time exploring the nature of morality, responsibility, and guilt.

>>81365880
His favorite film is Excalibur. He is literally patrician.

>>81365777
It could under Deadpool in the US, not WW though.

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>>81365738
>patrician director tries to elevate capeshit by tying it into mythological and religious contexts

>mfw an anon yesterday tried to unironically (i think) argue that Doomsday was a "mythological creature" that represented the "struggle of every character" in the story
I'm baffled

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>>81365914
Capeshit will never be deep no matter how hard you want it to be.
At least the Japanese don't insult their audience with this garbage like American capeshit does.

>>81365924
Well people kept trying to say he wouldn't keep looking like a cave troll too, how'd that turn out?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-bMdjmGR1k

this is the average person who defends BvS

>>81365873
You can have a survivor of a shipwreck tell his story on how he saw the creatures of the deep wreck his ship (who was bombing the sea for easy kills and whatever) and some few shots of these creatures, before saying that the last thing he saw was a man with a trident.

AQUAMAN . . .

or have the title something like the Man of Steel

>>81364879
they really do. snyderfags can defend him all day long, but the man is just not good for this film franchise that has to compete with marvel/disney and fox at the same time. a movie like this should not be doing so poorly compared to what expectations were.

>>81365939
Fuck off weeb

>>81365939
nippon is pretty obsessed with their /co/

>>81365914
actually now that I think about it, you have a point.
But then I really have no explanation other than Snyder being a fucking retard.

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>>81365957
Get mad capecuck. Go whine on tumblr about your triggering.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD3byJxc9Vc

A truly patrician director. I'm surprised he hasn't won an Oscar yet for being such a visionary.

>>81365738
>implying the religious parallels are remotely original to Snyder
We're going to have to deal with /tv/fags saying this for years, aren't we?

>>81365965
They want to sell toys and entertain people not push a leftist agenda or try to portray fucking clowns in pajamas as some incredibly poignant and meaningful drama.

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>>81365952
That would have been a great way to make him cameo in BvS, kind of redundant in his own movie. You want to show why the depths of the ocean are freaky, not just have someone talk about how it might be.

>>81365989
The religious parallels were invented by the older movies and they were the worst parts.

>>81365675
>People will still be talking about BvS and MoS five years from now
Not in the way you probably want, I can promise you that

>>81365806
This.

I want them to fail so we can get comic book adaptations made by people who actually understand and care about the source material. Zack Snyder's spent 2 goddamn movies making it clear he doesn't remotely understand any of the characters. We've got a Superman who spends more time angsting over if he should be saving people than actually saving people, a Batman with the moral compass of Rorschach and the detective skills of a bowl of pudding, and a Lex Luthor who's a gibbering fucking imbecile.

Marvel's movies have been so successful because their respect for the source material always shines through, and their movies feel genuine. Snyder's efforts so far have been so desperate to do something different and unique, to elevate what he clearly sees as unworthy material, that he's ended up completely removed from it except on an entirely superficial level.

>>81365738
>elevate capeshit
BvS didn't elevate shit

It didn't innovate or say anything special or do any of that shit people spout. It was just the same old cape film wrapped up in a shiny package and pretended it was smarter than it actually was

>>81365620
You should feel like a retard because you can't tell a falseflag.

>>81365942
>only 2 minutes in and already playing the "BvS haters are Trump loving marvel fanboys" card
Jesus, the only thing worse than this movie is the stupid fanboy who literally cannot get Snyder's dick out of their mouth.

>>81363778
As a fellow box office theory forum member with a verified premium account, perhaps.

>>81363778
This isn't even about a movie adaptation, and it's a screencap of some gay website. >>>/tv/

>>81366060
I don't think he disdains them, he just doesn't get it.

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>>81366002

>>81366060
>Snyder's efforts so far have been so desperate to do something different and unique, to elevate what he clearly sees as unworthy material, that he's ended up completely removed from it

He's right in that mindset though.

>>81365806
This guy knows.

I wanted something equivalent to the DCAU on the big screen and I got Snyder's sloppy servings

>>81363778
> Nearly a billion dollars
> Failure

>>81366060
>Marvel's movies have been so successful because their respect for the source material always shines through

Know the best way to spot a casual?

>they're COMICAL so they're just like the comics rite?

>>81366060
>Marvel's movies have been so successful because their respect for the source material always shines through
kek

>>81366034
Well, it's interesting that Thor's a bit more well received by critics yet pushed away by fans for being a bit disappointing, which people would say for the film "Oh , Thor 2? The part where he fought that red elf with Loki." and not much else.

BvS is a disappointment in a different way where it affects the actors and the movie teams

>>81366026
Nope. It's much older than that. The name Kal-El I literally a reference to God and the angels.

>>81366060
lmao, you're naive if you think the movies failing will just cause them to reboot any time soon.

If anything they'll double down on Harry Potter or another WB IP and they might even shutter the comics because they're doing awful, or sell off the rights, or the company might be bought by Fox like they tried to in 2014, and we'll have a Batman on the level of f4.

>>81366060
>Marvel's movies have been so successful because their respect for the source material always shines through,

The Marvel movies don't have nearly as much liberal pandering or asinine forced drama and lazy shock value as the actual comics.

>>81366116
>I don't know how BO money works

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>>81366002
>or try to portray fucking clowns in pajamas as some incredibly poignant and meaningful drama
Except when those few times when they do.

Luckily they tend to suck

>>81366167
Those movies failed for that reason.

>>81366116
>Half a billion = nearly a billion?
>Implying it's positive that a movie called Batman v Superman is in the same financial tier (and sometimes below) as fucking Deadpool

>>81366133
Except nobody tries to pretend Thor 2 is good. Maybe some people will like parts of it, I've seen as such, but it's, as a whole, thought of as being as the weakest MCU movie

>>81366133
I would guess because he doesn't quite do god-ly things, nerfed or he'd be making craters all over the Earth probably. And they are saving going full blown magic for Dr. Strange, might mean Ragnarok will let them cut him loose, especially with Hulk in tow.

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>>81366195
Weird that Deadpool's breakout success is setting the bar for how other cape movies do with their dev money.

>>81366123
>they're COMICAL so they're just like the comics rite?
They also remain truth to the spirit of the characters while being their own thing, like how Captain America 1 starts about the values that make him deserving of being a super soldier and later in the second movie how his nationalism isn't blind. Or Iron Man's emotional problems and vices that lead him to failures he has to fix. Or Thor... ... Ok, those are painfully mediocre.
Besides
>comedy
>bad

>>81366074
Lol ok, so it was you.

>>81366138
It was spelled Kal-L at first. El being one of the Hebrew words for God is accidental.

>>81366196
That's just it. It's passable but almost forgettable.

I don't think even Portman enjoyed the role there.

http://strawpoll.me/7256876

Fuck Batman.

Also vote.

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>>81363778
>EDUCATED GUESS FROM EXPERTS
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2016/02/11/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-the-realistic-box-office-prediction/#273adde81391
>But for the moment, if we’re playing “realistic” predictions, I am hereby guessing that Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, starring Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill, Amy Adams, Gal Gadot, Jessie Eisenberg, Holly Hunter, Jeremy Irons, and Diane Lane, will gross between $700 million and $1.12 billion worldwide when it opens next month.

>>81365912
I don't think he's retarded. From what I can tell, he's just a bro that's trying to sound smarter than he is.

>>81366232
Well can you blame them? It made like 10 times its budget back

>>81365912
Smallville actually did this.

>>81366274
>between $700 million and $1.12 billion worldwide
Wow, it's like they've covered all the bases. Accurate economic reporting here

Given how tight their schedule for film releases is, I wouldn't be surprised if Snyder were contractually obligated to do both JL1 and JL2.

I honestly can't see him getting the boot, especially not for JL1 seeing how soon it's going into production. And if DC/WB is going for the filmmaker-driven universe they are touting, then JL2 will likely be Znyder as well.

Also, "Znyder" was a typo, but I like it enough to leave it.

>>81366232
Deadpool is pretty much the definition of a successful movie: troubled development, relatively small budget, unconventional character, limiting factors like the R-rating and the lack of China... it won against all the odds both critically and financially, while BvS is struggling with award-winning writers, actors and shit and a bazillion of dollars for budget

>>81366274
>educated guess
>500 million margin difference

Can't they just get someone to co-direct with Snyder or would that be too humiliating?

>>81365681
Batfleck was the best part of BvS. He'll be fine. I just hope the new Joker is good.

>>81366283
I'm actually expecting DC to make their Harley Quinn solo after SSquad to combat or at least cash in on the R-Rated crazy killers hype.

>>81366299
Film contracts usually work one way.
Like if WB wants him to then Snyder absolutely has to direct with no way of getting out but WB most certainly has an exit clause if they want to fire him.

>>81366325
Affleck is right there.

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>>81366274
As a bit of an anal-yst myself, I can safely that Batman v Superman will easily make somewhere between all the money or none of it.

Feel free to quote me on that when my prophetic prediction turns out to be 100% true.

>>81366325

I doubt he'd ever let them do that unless they threatened his first born or some shit. Theoretically Affleck could step in and help but it would be embarrassing as fuck and would probably turn into a pissing match between the two.

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>>81365675
Being remembered for a long time doesn't mean it's a good movie.

>>81366123
No. I mean how Captain America looks and acts like Captain America, Thor looks and acts like Thor, Iron Man looks and acts like Iron Man, etc. If Snyder directed the Marvel movies, we'd have Captain America constantly struggling with PTSD and wondering if he should move to China, we'd have Thor floating around looking serious all the time, and we'd have depressed Iron Man using the War Machine armour.

fyi I was reading red & yellow Daredevil and original suit Iron Man before you knew who Stan Lee was.

>>81366356
A fair point. Still, I don't find it plausible for WB to up and kick the guy out. After all, it's not as if the movies he's made have failed; they both made broke even within the first weekend.

One question I almost never see asked when people discuss getting rid of Snyder: Who would be his replacement? I doubt Christopher Nolan would return, and we can also assume that previous Marvel and future DC/Marvel directors wouldn't be on the table as well. So, who?

Michael Bay?

>>81366416
>we'd have Captain America constantly struggling with PTSD and wondering if he should move to China
Anon please. We saw MoS. If Snyder made a Captain American movie it would be amazingly unsubtle propaganda about how America needs to be more agressive with the outsiders to defend the country.

>>81366416
Well, it wouldn't be too bad if they'd adapt liquor-addicted Stark.

Also we already had PTSD, but with Ironman.

>>81366416
Sounds better than quipshit

>>81366442
Can't they find a filmmaker that actually read a comic book in their childhood and isn't a fucking hack?
Like i knew this shit was fucked from the start when they were touting that they take advice from Nolan of all people who doesn't know shit about DC and shits all over the source material every chance he gets, he can just get away with it because he's somewhat talented.

>>81366442
>A fair point. Still, I don't find it plausible for WB to up and kick the guy out
People thought Joss wouldn't leave Marvel but they wised up

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>>81366243
I don't have a problem with comedy, but the Marvel films are just incredibly mindless in how they distribute it, and just shotgun humor, haphazardly, everywhere. Look at One Piece. It's the wackiest of Japan's Big Three, but Oda knows to turn it off when the plot would be better served through drama. Or in Star Wars, or throughout anything else with comic relief characters, ever notice how they aren't present during the big scenes with Vader? In the MCU even the villains, throughout the climaxes of the films, are portrayed as jokes.

>>81366491
Here we go with the "Every MCU movie is Age of Ultron" shit

>>81366491
if you have brain damage.

Just fucking push Justice League back and get a solo bat film with Affleck directing.

Kick Snyder to the curb and get George Miller to direct Justice League.

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>>81366442
Bay's not really great with special effects, noticing how out of place and repetitive many of his explosions were in Transformers

Plus he already has Prime of Murder on his movies but is actually a bit developed in "war hero has enough of this war shit" character but lacks in putting more effort in any of the other robot characters.

He's better off with his own projects (Pain and Gain, 72 hours) than the ones he's comissioned to do.

>>81366535
Which Strawhat do you think has the darkest origin story?

For me it's a tie between Sanji and Franky.

>>81366541
The Cap movies aren't, but that's it

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>the state of DC

>>81366541
>dance off bro

>>81366508
>Can't they find a filmmaker that actually read a comic book in their childhood and isn't a fucking hack?
Most filmmakers wasted their time watching movies as kids.

There's nothing wrong with taking creative liberties with characters. That's how we got "Elseworlds" and "Captain America: Winter Soldier".

>>81366521
Joss left on his own accord, though. Disney didn't kick him out.

>>81366556
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2THVvshvq0Q

>>81366535
>but Oda knows to turn it off when the plot would be better served through drama.
I don't see how that doesn't apply here. When drama needs to happen, it happens. AoU is considered the quppiest of the movies, but it's not like they were cracking jokes during Quicksilver's death scenes. Thor 2 sucks, but it's not like Loki's "death" wasn't played for real, even IM3's PTSD was played completely straight.

>>81365939
Kamen Rider is legitimate Capekino. Nobody here can comprehend it.

>>81366474
Maybe it was wasted in one of the weakest movies, but to be fair IM2 did give us a taste of that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41PoLfHfPXc

>>81366590
Nothing wrong with taking creative liberties with the stories, but I like it less so with characters.
And the Russos claim they are familiar with Marvel comics at the very least.

>>81366578
That's actually kind of sad and pathetic they are resorting to this.

>>81366595
Haven't seen Age of Ultron, but if it doesn't treat its subject matter in the same manner as "puny god" or "dance off, bro" then it's not the quippest of the MCU movies by a long shot.

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>>81365620
>the next TDK

MoSfags are the most delusional fanbase ever

>>81366578
This is reminding me of A SECOND FRESH REVIEW

>>81366583
Hey even GotG has it's moments of drama. There's no jokes when it comes to Quill's mom

>>81366416
>You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you.

Fuck you, Steve. It wasn't his fault:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0VM1lIMMtY

All I know is that if the "Captain Marvel" movie is objectively shit but it still wins out with critics, then we'll have actual evidence that they are either being paid off or voluntarily sucking Marvel's teats.

>>81366578
This cannot be real.

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>>81366703
Stop meme'ing

>>81366717
If they could think of a tasteful cancer joke I'm sure it would've made the cut

>>81366732
It is:

https://twitter.com/DCCUniverse/status/716189048054882304

>>81366730
Or BvS just sucks?

You make it sound like Days of Future Past didn't get rave reviews and box office too

>>81364008
that was released theatrically?

>>81366770
I think that would've been more effective if Quill had to choose between grabbing his mother's hand and Gamora's instead of those being one and the same.

>>81366839
How would that have made any sense for the scene?

>>81366815
Thank goodness it's a fanpage though, for a second there i thought it might've been something official

>>81366730
Why would you need further proof? We have Thor 2 that it's arguably the worst MCU movie with the lowest score on RT (60-something, right?) and an average rating of 5.2/10, that's fair already

>>81366827
BvS has nothing to do with how there is little to no source material for Marvel to use when creating the "Captain Marvel" movie, and how what source material there is thus far does not offer much in the way of expansion.

That is to say, we're gonna have a bad time watching the movie. It'll probably be "Jessica Jones In Space", but cut down to a PG-13 rating.

>>81366839
Why? It might be just the way i interpret it, but the dead mom/Gamora parallel was to show that Quill got over his trauma and started to honestly care for people again

>>81366888
With a slapstick sidekick to make it light hearted in the beginning but to give the main character that needed motivation when at a time of doubt.

>>81366888
Maybe they'll do what GotG did and make it totally different from its source but make it work anyway

>>81366885
Sure, but I'm talking True Shit.
I'd bet that the only thing that saved Thor 2 was Loki.

>>81366916
And make them chubby. Not because of any agenda for body-size equality, but because fat people are always funny because they're fat.

Also, don't forget the fake-out death that provides a moment of motivation for Carol near the climax of the film, and then during the denouement they show up with a clean bill of health.

>>81366965
GOTG took more from the DnA/Giffen comics than the then-running Bendis comics. It's still an adaptation of the former.

I really wanted to like BvS, but the scene-to-scene editing in the first third of the film was really messy, and it devolved (unsurprisingly) into a Snyder CG destruction-fest at the end.

I wanted to say that the Christ analogies were a lot better in this film, until that fucking shot after Superman's death. Pylons in the shape of crucifixes and all, jesus. I thought the Kryptonite Longinus and the whale-shaped hole in the wall were actually somewhat clever.

Strangely enough, I liked Luthor. He seems really crazy instead of 'movie crazy' if you catch my meaning. I liked that it didn't hold your where his plan was concerned, e.g. there was no scene before the bomb in the wheelchair went off where he twirled his evil moustache about it for exposition. In fact, it didn't hold your hand at all. No explanation about Darkseid or The Flash appearing from the Injustice/Final Crisis future, you just have to understand it or not.

>>81366965
>GotG did and make it totally different from its source

while it's different in terms of cast and the vairous plots, it still retains the spirit of DnA's run

I expected MoS and I got MoS. I am neither disappointed nor surprised.

>>81364818
I can't understand how the Jews let Snyder throw away a couple of million extra profit.

After this and f4ntastic fukup, I'm beginning to think the suits are pretty stupid people: bullshitters who think fellow bullshitters are the chosen ones. At least JJ had the sense to virtually remake Star Wars for guaranteed profit.

>>81367004
As an addendum, despite ding ding ding ding ding the closeup on the upside-down painting where the cracks/weathering in the paint make the demon's skin look like Darkseid's was genius.

Oh and Wonder Woman was okay. Her acting wasn't that bad and her skeleton physique wasn't as annoying as I'd thought it would be, but her jumping at Doomsday just looked fucking silly. There was no weight to her movement at all

>>81366833
Probably not in the US.

it will cap off at 350 domestic and 450-525 foreign, these are optimistic

>>81365681
Most people I know who've seen it say he's great as Batman. Even my friend who was dead set on hating him thinks he was good, his favorite Batman is still Christian Bale for some reason though.

I didn't even see this movie but I hope it bombs. Its bombing is more entertaining than any capemovie.

>>81367004
>I thought the Kryptonite Longinus and the whale-shaped hole in the wall were actually somewhat clever.

To be fair it turns out the spear thingie wasn't a reference to Jesus as much as it was a reference to the movie Excalibur, where Arthur dies with a spear through his chest but he also manages to kill his opponent, pretty much similarly to how it went with Supes and Doomsday. It's also why we got the retarded Lois scenes, she was quite literally the "lady in the water" that gave the hero the magical weapon to win the fight

Snyder often speaks about how he loves that movie because it was epic and violent
Why the hell is Snyder so derivative

>>81367103
Batfleck is the consistently single praised aspect of the film. Though it's questionable certain ways he's portrayed, the acting is completely on poiont

>>81366143
They're making another HP trilogy with Rowling writing and producing.

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What's your favorite BvS meme, /co/? Mine is

>this is a movie made by comic book fans for true comic book fans

>>81367125
Fun fact: in the opening when Bruce's parents are shot, the theatre is showing Excalibur.

>>81367146
>this is a movie made by comic book fans for true comic book fans
This one pisses me off so much, had to watch DCAU for a straight week to wash the shit taste out of my mouth the movie left me with.

>>81367167
Noticed it. I was expecting Zorro.

Is DCEU salvageable or hack snyder raped it through and through?
>Mopey Man of Murder who's currently dead
>Bat of manslaughter without a good canonical explanation
>twig Wonder Woman with shit casting
>miscast Lex Luthor
>miscast Flash
>Aquaman who isn't a good actor
>still stuck with Hack Snyder and his religious themes

>>81367208
Zorro was what they had come out of. There was a poster for it that they walked past.

>>81367167
Another shit decision by Zack "we need to be edgy and different damnit" Snyder.

>>81367211
In some ways it's salvageable, but some stuff can't really be fixed without retcons or retarded plot developments. Clark Kent for example, i doubt that persona will ever be back, and even if he did Perry White doesn't care about him and Jimmy Olsen is a dead CIA agent. How do you fix that, just pretend there was another Jimmy all along? Clark comes back just when Superman does too and says he was just in a coma the whole time?

>>81367211
I think they should just have JL come out and have it end in the worst way with everybody being a villain and earth doomed.
Then reboot with a new set of movies and JL2 which is a crossover with the first JL characters and we find out it was actually earth 3 and everyone was evil the whole time.

>>81367211
Salvagable given enough retconning.

Flash and Aqua is the least offenders as they had very little to do with the movie.

>>81367211
>Mopey Man of Murder who's currently dead
He's not
>Bat of manslaughter without a good canonical explanation
Salvageable, explain it properly
>twig Wonder Woman with shit casting
We're fucked
>miscast Lex Luthor
Salvageable, lock him up and get a new villain
>miscast Flash
We're fucked
>Aquaman who isn't a good actor
We're fucked, also they couldn't be bothered to film a decent underwater scene
>still stuck with Hack Snyder and his religious themes
We're fucked.

>>81367211
>Bat of manslaughter without a good canonical explanation
Robin was murdered and left him burnt out and jaded. But you're right nobody in the movie actually spelled it out for fucking idiots like you

>>81367298
Hard to salvage manslaughter if they pressure int he future his one unbreakable rule.

>>81367304
>Robin was murdered! Welp, I guess I have to murder everyone know, I just have to. I'm too burnt out and jaded, bro.

Snyderfags are so cute

>>81367284
Perry knew Clark was Superman, why do you think he gave lois a chopper when she said it wasn't for a story

>>81367304
That's a pretty big fucking jump going from one extreme to the other. Batman killing Robin's killer would make sense

>>81367337
Doesn't explain why he was hellbent on keeping Superman from investigating the Batman on pay.

>>81367348
Yeah. It wouldn't do for an explanation for his wreckless driving.

>>81367349
He needed the football scores more>>81367348

>>81367337
Same reason the Flash gave her a lift in MoS when she somehow managed to go where Zod and Supes where

>>81367304
Doesn't the movie imply that's the Metropolis experience and antagonism with Superman that made him that way? Or was it one of the prequel comics

>>81367326
But salvageable nonetheless. It might take and entire movie though, something that goes beyond this fucko's >>81367304 dumbshit explanation

I haven't seen the movie because I don't go to theaters. Was that one guy Hal Jordan?

>>81367387
Hal wasn't in the movie.

Cyborg, Aqua and mexican Flash was.

>>81367387
We won't know until the extended cut, both him and the Jenna Malone character were cut from the theater release

>>81367387
They're saving Hal for a later movie.
AKA Hal won't be in the DCEU.

>>81365362
Warner Bros has always treated DC like crap. Juxtaposed to the Disney and Marvel relationship which is a lot more friendly and supportive since they want it to succeed.

>>81367387
Mr. Greenlegs was Wally

>>81364935

I looked up some of those accounts.

>foreigners
>Hardcore DC shills using the hashtag #supportdcfilms
>People who are adopting a SS Harley personality and liking Leto Joker unironically
>Someone who is obsessed with Gal Gadot

They could not have cherrypicked a worse group of people.

>>81367370
That Gotham Knights game was a killer.

>>81367304
>I need to read about it in interview and defend all these shit choices damn it
No. Fuck off. The fact of the matter is Hack Snyder is a Hack Snyder who needs to make edgy choices not true to the canon to make himself feel superior. IT LITERALLY SAID IN A PREQUEL COMIC THAT BATMAN DOESN'T KILL BUT HE HAD TO GO OUT OF HIS WAY TO MAKE BILLIONAIRE PLAYBOY FRANK CASTLE WITH DEAD PARENTS BECAUSE IT LOOKS COOL AND MUH SUBVERSION. Stop defending that piece of shit.

>>81367146
My favorite is "a solid 40" and "It's just a good time at the movies, it's not meant to be taken seriously"

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>>81367447
You had to look them up? Some of their handles are literally Mistah J and Themysciran

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>>81367146

I left BvS feeling the same way I did when I left Spotlight.
There is something very wrong about your Superman movie if depressed is what you evoke

>>81367146
>critics don't get it, they just want "popcorn movies" like marvel because they're brain dead
film releases
>it's just a bit of fun, it doesn't take itself seriously

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>lets Snyder have free reign on the film DC universe even though he's just a monkey who likes ebin fight scenes
>demand desperate and reactionary reshoots for Ayer's movie despite Ayer being a much more accomplished director and writer

I fucking hate WB.

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>>81367511

I didn't look up those obviously

>>81367511
>>81367447
For a moment i thought they were meant to be fake in-universe accounts, like, some meta joke with the characters praising their own movies

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>>81367146
>this movie is "too smart" for Marvel fans

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>>81367581
>Wonder Woman getting reshoots to be more of a "solo" film with less connections to BvS
>SS getting reshot to be more "fun"
>Aquaman promising to be more "fun"
>Justice League recently announced to be "lighter and more fun"
>Release two Lego Batman movie trailers in the same week as if WB wants to remind us "Don't worry, we know Batman is still wacky!"
>Actually had to come out and explain how Flash was tonally going to be different from MoS as if that wasn't already supposed to be a given in the first place.
>That fucking idiot producer guy from earlier this very week who came out with "Hey, BvS isn't supposed to take itself seriously, it's just a fun time at the movie" which is like the direct opposite of what the film was promoting itself as for the past two years.

>>81366335
Harley and Ivy would make for a good r-rated movie. That way Ivy can strut around nearly naked.

>>81367634
Snyder has said that Flash won't be light hearted though

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>>81367146
As in, meme from the movie? Or about the movie?
For the former:
>WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME
>DING DING DING
>X vs Y
>MMMMMMMM BOYYYSSSSS
For the latter:
>Rotten Tomatoes never mattered anyways except when a DC movie gets a fresh score
>Alternatively: I trust the audience score more anyways inadverdantly admitting that Twilight movies are good
>It's still better than Age of Ultron!
>It's too deep for Marvel fans

Before you write me off as a "marvelcuck" or whatever it is these days, I REALLY wanted this movie to be great. I fucking love DC (mostly Vertigo, though), but this shit left me really bitter.

>>81367529
CinemaSins is going to have a field day with this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Cl5FzEIjY

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IT'S OFFICIALLY OVER

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>>81365495
>implying it still wouldn't be a step up from Snyder

>>81367653
Yes, but he said would feel different from MoS.

Like realistically obviously it should

>>81367582
Faggot needs to pick up the pace, the movie won't reach 1 billion by itself.

>>81367146
>the movie got bad reviews because there's a big Marvel conspiracy going around Hollywood

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At this rate, it'll be out of theatres around the time Civil War comes out. Meanwhile The Force Awakens only just left my local multiplex and got to the 2 dollar theatre last week. And that'll be on DVD on Tuesday. Not to mention Zootopia getting a two week extension in China because of how popular it is.

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>>81367582
>$18.59

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>>81367582
>$18.59
>This guy spent $111.54 on BvS tickets

>>81367705
Oh okay yeah that's fucking dumb. I'd hope all their solo shit is different from one another

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SNYDERR! Stop ruining Cavill's career!

>>81367737
Was about to point this out, holy shit.
That's around two tickets, even in the expensive cinemas here.

>>81367684
>>DING DING DING

What's this meme about? I haven't kept up with memeposting lately. Also, no love for JAR OF PISS?

>>81367653
Once, when channel surfing (back when that was still a thing) I chanced upon some PBS thing where they were interviewing one of those pseudo-famous modern art school artists who makes shit out of trash and shit. When asked about his vision and what he brought to the field of art, the artist said "the great Classic artists have already made great things. they were masters of form and composition. Michelangelo's David has already been made, but it's never been made out of twigs before."

Every time Snyder opens his mouth, he reminds me of this "artist."

>>81367771
Speaking of which, how the hell did Lex get a jar of piss in a government building filled with cameras, guards, and people watching and place it onto the center desk?

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>>81367582
>$18.59
>6 times
>over a hundred burgers spent on BvS

>>81367768
Well it is IMAX 3D. But IMAX 3D at my local AMC ~$14. He must be going to some fancy theatre.

>>81365206
I'm not even a Marvel fan and I'm glad the DCEU's plans haven't been halted but with enough of a sting on their profits will take Snyder out from directing any more.

Are you people so vindictive that you would be satisfied would Snyder making another shot film just so you can say you stuck it to Marvel fans?

See now THAT I find pathetic.

>>81367766
>implying he had one in the first place
He's a shit actor.

>>81367653
I want to murder Snyder

>>81367804
with dc's favourite explanation

>ain't gotta explain shit

>>81367766
I think Cavill's doing that himself with his mediocre acting and shit film choices. The Man from U.N.C.L.E? More like the man from the bottom of the box office. How they ever thought that was going to compete with Straight Outta Compton is beyond me, let along actually be a hit period.

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>>81367693

>>81367653
I want to murder Snyder

>>81367771
Lex makes those noises, supposedly hinting at Darkseid/mother boxes.

>>81367693
How bad is that, not really an expert on box office numbers

>Deadpool made $16,218,008 on it's second friday
>AoU made $21,232,362

Yeah, i guess it's kinda weak, it's barely more than what they made on monday

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>>81367820
>3D

AHAHAHA, I didn't notice that

>>81367771
A.) Jar of piss is a meme
B.)The movie ends with Lex in a cell sobbing "They're coming! I've rung the bell for them! DINGDINGDINGDINGDING"

>>81367867
It pretty much means that it will land on about 350 domestic box office.

Given that it has huge drops internationaly as well (it dropped 81% in China), it will be impossible to make above 900 ww

>>81367917
Apparently it's expected to make less than 100 million in China. That's pretty bad.

>>81367693
-81%
Jesus christ

>>81366707
>those titties
>gone

Like tears in the rain.

>>81367860
WAKE ME UP INSIDE

>Friday Box Office: 'Batman V Superman' Plunges Record 81%
>Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice just broke a record for the biggest Friday-to-Friday drop for a major comic book movie. We can talk all we want about how Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is better appreciated by the fans or its passionate online fan base than by the critics. But if this second Friday (and likely second weekend) figure is any indication, the majority of the general populace no longer cares. It’s neither a passionate embrace nor vitriolic hatred, but merely indifference. Yes, we’re still talking about a $15.35 million second-Friday and a $50m+ second weekend, but in terms of legs, this film seemingly doesn’t have any.
>As a general rule, opening weekend is about marketing and pre-release interest. Whether or not the movie is any good, and whether or not audiences respond to the picture, is best measured by the second and third weekends. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice just had a bigger Friday-to-Friday drop than any major/big-budget comic book movie ever. It suffered a drop of 81.2% from its $81.5m opening day. Yes, that includes $27.7m worth of Thursday previews. But this would still be a 71.5% drop even from the “pure” $53.8m Friday figure.
>And, yeah, this plunge is a little jaw-dropping, even if it’s not a record for all saturated releases. Offhand, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2 dropped 84% on its second Friday and High School Musical 3 dropped 90% on its second Friday if only because said Friday was on Halloween. But there was almost no competition in terms of big movies this weekend. God’s Not Dead 2 will make around $8.5 million for the weekend while all of the other new releases/expansions (Meet the Blacks, Eye in the Sky, I Saw the Light, Midnight Special, Miles Ahead, and Hello, My Name Is Doris) will make around $13m total.
>http://archive.is/r5YqI
SHUT IT DOWN

>After a mighty opening weekend, Batman V Superman plummeted down to earth with a horrendously bad 81% drop from last Friday. Even among the most front loaded comic adaptations to date, that’s pretty much unheard of. Watchmen fell 78% while X-Men Origins: Wolverine fell around 76%. Both of those films ended up making nearly half of their total from their opening weekend, and a similar fate seems likely for Dawn of Justice. At this rate, $400M is completely off the table, while $350M seems to be growing more and more unlikely by the day.
Damn, so many records broken!

>>81367984
Star Wars made like 50 mil in China

>>81368089
Yes. That was considered bad in that case too.

I'm slightly worried that this means we'll only ever have comic book movies with the same tone as the Avengers now.

Will we never get a tone similar to the TDK trilogy again?

>>81368054
>the majority of the general populace no longer cares. It’s neither a passionate embrace nor vitriolic hatred, but merely indifference.
Man that's even worse than being hated like Fant4stic or X-Men Origins. Indifference is the biggest enemy of the cinema

>>81368089
Yeah, China doesn't give a shit about Star Wars. Seems like they don't care for Batman and Superman either.

>>81368089
>>81368095
...on the opening, in total it made $125,398,521

BvS' predicted $100 millions is more close to Ant-man's $105,370,038

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>>81367875
JARATE

I actually thought the senator was to be poisoned.

>>81368110
I think we will. I'd be incredibly surprised if one director, one movie, fucked everything up for everyone.

>>81368089
Yeah, and Furious 7 did gang busters in China.

>>81368110
Why does nobody ever consider Fox's X-films? They are a solid middle ground between the two

And it's not like action movies with comedy are 100% infallible either, look at Green Lantern or ASM2.

>>81368126
You know what's even better, they somehow managed to make people indifferent to a movie starring the two biggest super heroes in history

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>>81368110
This is the future we chose

>>81366965
>totally different from the source

I'm so tired of /co/ not reading comics

>>81365738
I really hope its b8.
otherwise you're a retard anon

>>81368157
Fox X-Men and Cap 2 found a good middle ground between serious and levity I feel.

More movies with a similar tone would be great.

>>81368110
As long as faggots don't fault Marvel Studios for this.
Daredevil exists. Fox-men exists. It can be done, but WB are retards.

>>81368243
Cap 2 is a good example of serious yet full of heart.

>>81367447
But wouldn't that make you an autist too?

I have a question.

Why is it that objectivists like Snyder make terrible film maker.

>Warner Bros. and DC’s clash of the superheroes is now tracking for a three-day total of $50 million, down from yesterday’s expected $58 million. “BvS” pulled in $15 million on Friday from 4,256 locations, and it’s expected to hit a cumulative domestic gross of $260 million by Sunday’s end.
Tell me /co/, is it too late to fire Snyder and delay JL for a couple of months?

>>81368215
He's right tho. Not totally but really different.

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>>81368251
>As long as faggots don't fault Marvel Studios for this.
Don't you know man?

IT'S A DISNEY CONSPIRICY

>>81368354

No, they canned superman lives 2-3 weeks away from filming, which is where we are at right now with JUST league

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>>81368054
>>81368070
At least the Snyderfags can still say the movie won't stop breaking records

>>81368243
You marvel dummies keep saying mediocre shit like cap2 is good. Dumb ducks don't know films.

>>81368370
It's not really that different. I mean, yeah it plays the characters closer to the sleeve given it's tone and it's not really about a fully formed GotG yet, but it does share the spirit of the DnA run.

>>81365877
>Honestly, I wish Snyder had a good screenwriter at his side telling him he's dumb when he wants to do something different
He'd just challenge them to a push up contest because that's apparently what auteurs do.

>>81363778
Soon, everyone will know what it's like to live in my world.
A world without hope.
A world without mercy.
A world without Superman.

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>>81368407
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?

>>81368354
They'd probably have to shitcan his wife too. And any crew that were part of his and his wife's production company.

So they'd basically have to restart with a production team, and a new director and production crew would probably want to add their own flair to the script, suddenly we're looking at rewrites and WB are now sinking even more money into this project, not to mention have to consider competing with other movies in their own production slate.

They can probably still can it though

>>81368407
There's nothing particularly smart about Batman vs. Superman either. It's Batman vs. Superman. Anything it does that tries to "elevate it" with some faux intelectualism you'd get from a community college film major is forfeit by it being Batman vs. Superman.

It's the same.

>>81367984

It's the new average for western blockbusters in China, local movies are at the point where they are soaking up all the box office receipts now. Chinese box office is just a pretty number for western movies now for the most part, foreign movies get 1/6th of the stub so a $100m movie in China earns American studios about as much as a movie that ends up making between $30m to $40m in countries like Canada or Australia

>>81368347
Because they're all so lost up their own asses trying to make some transformative experience that changes how people view the world that they forget they also need to actually make a good movie.

>>81367483
foreigner here
what does solid 40 mean? I mean, 40/100 isnt good either, it must mean something else.

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>>81368461
Plus, this was still a better movie anyway

>>81368388
What are they laughing at?

>>81368492
>what does solid 40 mean?
It was from, I think /tv/ (maybe /co/) when the reviews were first coming out and they were all coming negative, the RT score was at 40%. Some anon was like "the score is fine, it's at a solid 40%"

Commence meme'ing and guffawing

>>81368492
When the RT score was still floating around 40%, some thought it was nothing to worry about

>>81368490
Given Randroids like Snyder think mine before anyone else, I think it's more that they don't particularly owe it to their audience to give it their 100% to iron out flaws and make films for themselves rather than for others.

I think this is pretty clear in Snyder's body of work.

>>81368484
That's nice and all, but Age of Ultron made $155 million in its opening weekend there and 240 in total.

China box office can be massive for some blockbusters, it's why Hollywood still cares about that market.

I haven't read a lot of comics but I did read Birthright. Why didn't they adapt that for Man of Steel? Is that storyline hated? I liked it, I think it would make for a nice origin movie.

>>81368552
>Why didn't they adapt that for Man of Steel?

Superman kills no one in that story.

>>81366730
I don't think that'll be fair. Personally I think have to see how Wonder Woman, Ghostbusters, and it all do critically because "muh strong female characters" will probably influene critics more than it being Marvel.

>snyder has never espoused rand
>only expressed that he likes a book
really guys?

>>81368500
Totes.

Lois had to date Wayne though.

>>81368586
Yeah but that book crams its ideology down your throat and makes sure you buy into it.

It's hard to say you like a novel that's entirely twisted around its thesis without buying into its thesis.

>>81368552
>I haven't read a lot of comics but I did read Birthright. Why didn't they adapt that for Man of Steel?
Any sort of adaptation of Supes that seems overtly positive to him as a hero would be considered as a no-go to Snyder.

The man loves Ayn Rand for crying out loud

>>81368586
I've had a few people tell me that Man of Steel is full of Randian themes

>>81368545

That's in a pre mermaid world, marvel is pretty smart with their chinese releases though, unlike WB who rushed for a day and date and ended up having to face 3 local blockbusters on a 3 day holiday for their second week there

I miss the names from yesterday

>>81365939
SHIN exist, anon. The Japanese are not immune.