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Ive nearly caught up to Homestuck as a new reader and i feel

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Ive nearly caught up to Homestuck as a new reader and i feel that Act 6 isnt as bad to me since ive had to catch up and not wait. But im sure the long hiatuses gave fans ample time to pick apart and critque it. To me i got into Homestuck for the characters and you cant deny that Hussie writes their dialogue so distinctly that it makes them feel different from each other. Homestuck thread.
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>>80864057
>But im sure the long hiatuses gave fans ample time to pick apart and critque it
This is accurate, the pauses have been hell. Another reason there's disdain for act 6 (and act 5 mind you) is the shift from a focus on sburb, to characters. sure, reading it for the first time is cool, but after a year or two of discussion you start to realize that the forgoing of explanations on sburb as a medium really grates.

The whole LE story is nice, but I think everybody would have preferred a straightforward session that could have been completed in less than 7 years if they thought about it.
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>>80864127
Yeah i feel the same way about Act 5. And as much as i am enjoying the story right now i feel like its been kind of a clusterfuck and i honestly would have preferred a straightforward session as well where we learn about the game mechanics and what not. Its a fucking crime that we dont know how the all the classes and aspects work. Also fuck Hussie for killing Nepeta and Equius, i fucking loved their interactions.
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Yeah, I didn't really think that Act 6 was all that bad, save for the godawful teenage angst towards the beginning. After GAME OVER, I think it picked up a bit, although it wasn't as good as it was in Act 4/5.
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>>80864183
>Its a fucking crime that we dont know how the all the classes and aspects work
Mage and doom are the worst for this, sollux sure is an enigma.

I'd accompany my posts with some nep/eq pics but I don't really collect shipping stuff, just memes.

what was your opinion on the first intermission?
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What killed Homestuck was the insistence on having every new character tie into the narrative. The Midnight Crew intermission was great because it did it's own thing and eventually tied in, but wasn't a necessary read (it is easily one of the best parts of HS though and it is totally necessary for you to enjoy yourself.)
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Did someone say Bowman? No? Oh, just me then.

>>80864362
I think it was very neat how the intermission and alternian exile narrative is never explicably stated but you slowly realize, Sure you can spot the signs, but on a first readthrough you don't really realize until act 5 act 2.

That being said, robojack's been through a hell of a lot, would be interesting to see him interact with karkat again.
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>>80864237
Tbh i skipped most of it. I know im a fucking retard.
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>>80864639
go back and read it this instant young man, you must know how it is very important by the point of the comic you're at.
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>>80864669
Maybe later when i do a reread of the comic
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>>80864687
Fair. as >>80864362 said, it's one of the most enjoyable narratives in HS as a whole. all the characters involved have a neat timeline (ironically). there's also a lot of hussie's old humour if that's all you're gonna' take away from it.
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>>80864639
>i skipped most of it
stop posting any time
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>>80865015
S-sorry..
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oh yeah OP, make sure to check out the paradox space comics once you're done with HS. there's a year worth of content up there.

only two of the comics are written by hussie though,
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>>80864183
>>80864237
I very much believe that we will never get the full picture about classes/aspects. It's a miracle that we even have the speculative stuff.
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>>80865305
I think/hope hussie will release a sburb handbook at some point in the future. old skaianet textbook with a dos styled cover or something. classpects, planets, the veil, pospit and derse, archagents, exiles, ectobiology etc.

we can dream
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>>80865305
>>80865382
hopefully
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>>80865382
>Rose's lips aren't filled in
Why do so many people think Rose wears black lipstick?
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>>80866337
because everyone else weve seen with black lips (i.e. the trolls) are acknowledged to have black lips, and there are other characters with colored lipstick
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>>80866337
daves shoes arent filled in either, im sick of people drawing him with black shoes
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>>80866337
Because her lips are black.
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>>80864411
At the end of the intermission Slick finds a terminal viewport to Karkat's session, beginning his stint as an exile. I would hope it wouldn't take until A5A2 to realize it.
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>Physically fit
>Appreciates fine art
>Enjoys milk
>Never uses crude language
>Knows his place in society
>Was a good friend to Nepeta and kept her away from the dangerous FLARP game
>Skilled robot mechanic
>Used those robot skills to give Aradia a physical form during Sgrub
>Wrote deep poetry
>Helps the kids finish the game as a sprite
>Legitimately never did anything wrong
Tell me how Equius isn't the greatest troll.
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>>80866563
>Legitimately never did anything wrong
he put a chip in aradias heart to make her love him
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>>80864057
>Ive nearly caught up to Homestuck
Why?

>as a new reader
Oh that's why.
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>>80866563
He's a pussy who ignores common sense for his domination fetish and dies like a bitch instead of doing what he was supposed to.
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>>80866563
He judges the trolls based on their blood color making him sort of a racist
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>>80866563
he let neppers die, unforgivable
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>>80866337
>dave's wearing a t-shirt
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>>80866766
nepeta died after equius.
he told her to stay put.

the autist cat dying was her own damn fault.
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>>80866563
His domination fetish had more priority than protecting fucking Nepeta and everyone.

He also planted a chip on Aradia's robot body to make her love him.

---------

Also it's funny how Eridan copied everything Vriska did and then gets punished while Vriska runs around free, because she has tits and ass.
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>>80866890
daves god tier is a t-shirt theres just supposed to be a long sleeved shirt under it
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>>80866965
>vriska
>tits and ass
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>>80866933
equius knew perfectly well if gamzee killed him nepeta would be in danger too
he acknowledged it later, that was totally his fault
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>>80866965
eridan shouldve copied the part where shes useful, that might do more for him
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>>80866890
He was, at one point.
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Who /onlyinitfortheporn/ here?
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>>80866491
at that point you are unaware that the trolls have anything to do with sburb. shortly after karkat tells john that they played the same game, so you can draw the comparison there, but as I said it is never outright stated until act 5 act 2.
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>>80867066
Not enough quality porno these days.
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>>80867066
>homestuck porn
>post 2013
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>>80867088
Yeah but I just can't bring myself to care about the characters anymore except for their ability to get my boner up

It helps that homestuck kids are freaks and there's a lot more weird fetish shit than other fandoms
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>>80864846

Why is it that nobody can ever draw the felt accurate to size?
Every member past 10 is fucking huge, yet here Biscuits and Eggs are short, and Quarters is too short and not broad enough.
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>>80867318
>Why is it that nobody can ever draw the felt accurate to size?

Probably because those proportions are stupidly dumb.
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How to make the perfect Homestuck fanservice game:

>Rip off JoJo: Eyes of Heaven
>choose two characters
>each combinations have unique dialogue for each other
>if you choose a certain pairing, their super attack will change
>Lord English and Bec Noir are boss characters and you can't pick a partner for them

Or just create a dating sim with good sex scenes.
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>>80867458
they're cartoon characters, but they at least have some realistic builds you could extrapolate from.
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>>80867470
This
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>>80867935
Cute
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when's hsg
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>>80864057
I'm one of a handful of oldfags that liked Act 6 just as fine overall as the earlier half of the comic. A couple of the complaint towards the act, like lesser focus on Sburb mechanics and seeming lack of tension, I don't think it's really true so much as it's just been a really slow build-up towards the final pages, where major shit's going to go down.

That said, I do like to think something like >>80865382 is going to happen after the comic's finished - I would love for there to be like a large Q&A session, like in the olden days, about how Sburb and the narrative was plotted out, official complete info about the classpects and all that shit.
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>>80864232
>After GAME OVER
>picked up
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>>80869635
>A couple of the complaint towards the act, like lesser focus on Sburb mechanics [...], I don't think it's really true

are you a shill? nobody can be this retarded
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>>80866563
He took the blood caste too seriously to save Nepeta from Gamzee
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>>80866563
you're not welcome here, r
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>>80869635
>lesser focus on Sburb mechanics and seeming lack of tension
That's exactlyt why ACT 6 is worse than the previous acts.
But it's not even Hussie's fault. If only he didn't called TOG...
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>>80869327
They're banned on /co/ since 2012 Because of too fucking many threads.
Back in the day HS was the shit.
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>>80870221
I know I have shit taste. I can admit that.
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>>80870696
>act 6 is shit because TOG
not even true, act 6 was showing problems before that stuff even happened
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>>80864639
You fucked up son. You fucked up bad.
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>>80864639
You just skipped the funniest confiest adventure looking part in the seires. Just go back there. Be a Night Owl. A a Wise bird too.
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>>80870909
I don't even said that ALL act 6 was shit due to TOG, but obviously it's not something that helped.
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>>80870696
Back in 2011 he said Act 5 was going to be the peak of the action. Act 6 wasn't supposed to last nearly this long.
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>>80869635
I'm like you. I went on hiatus from the threads usually when the comic was on hiatus, I think that helped alot. From what I've been told and from the few times I went in before noping out, HSG talked itself into hating this comic during pauses.
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>>80870970
Become a member of the Midnight Crew
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I've been re-reading it and I'm falling in love all over again. Early acts, later acts, supplementary material, all of it.
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>>80864127
>forgoing of explanations on sburb
>>80865382
>I think/hope hussie will release a sburb handbook

Man this thread is making me want to look again for that huge, HUGE, HUUUUGE fictional SBURB guide some guy made. It was really fucking entertaining to just page through that shit, how much love the guy put into it. I'm kinda busy right now, but I'll link it later when I can, even if it's not canon, I assure you, it's pretty good

Also, to OP, because I too love Equius:
For Feels www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWC16tibFcE
For a bigger insight on his aspect/class, Heir of Void, Inheritor of Nothing, he basically only played to protect Nepeta, he wanted nothing else, nothing more, and got even less than what he expected www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpaonPpoEHc
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>>80871221
>the part when John got nearly killed by Terezi and the one when Dave do all the times Shenanigans

Man I think I'm gonna re-read it
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>>80871247
http://archiveofourown.org/works/340777/chapters/551606

>last update: 04-2013
This kills the man.
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>>80870527
Good job cherry-picking and using meme words, 'cause that wasn't what I meant. There was less focus on Sburb mechanics at the start of Act 6 but as it went on they become slowly more and more relevant again, like the denizens and talk from Alt Calliope about the aspects being more intermingled than previously thought, and I think all of that will come into play even more as the comic moves closer to the end.

>>80870696
As I said, it's just a really gradual build from there. Act 6 has been basically going through the same narrative structure as Acts 1-4 and Act 5 did, only super elongated. It's understandable to get fatigued by it, but I do believe that the endgame material will be worth it, and then some.

>>80871088
Cheers anon, I wish I had the same level of impulse control as you.
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>>80871247
>PhemieC
God her fucking Aradia song. Makes my dick go diamond as I get sp00ks all over my back.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMOJB52hCcs

Also, I think I might know what guide you're talking about. It's hilarious how the guy had some idea for glitches in the system like stacking beds on top of the other to boost "dreaming" effects because it's a fucking Beta version, so it makes sense for some stuff to be stupid.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/340777/chapters/551606
>Words:148,289
Fuck dude. Lots of love into this, it's amazing. Certainly worth a read.
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Quick question: if someone started a gif-based, reader command driven webcomic would you consider it a Homestuck ripoff? What if it was sometimes told in a single panel format, with occasional walk around flashes and other times laid out like a normal comic is?

Cause I've had some ideas rattling around but at a certain point I start worrying it's too derivative.
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>>80871525
You can never please everyone ever. There's nothing in this world that is not made through inspirations. Start it off, see how it goes, the important thing should be if YOU are having fun producing your content.
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>>80871525
homestuck is already derivative as fuck so go for it
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>>80871525
I've actually done this once or twice with fancomics, it's honestly well-received.

Like, to the point where I've tried doing a normal webcomic and gotten shit attention, but I tried making a crappy, one-off, totally low-effort Problem Sleuth style comic and gotten tens of thousands of views right off the bat, with constant increase.

I kinda ditched it after a while but yeah.
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>>80871578
>>80871581
>>80871705
Alright, thanks for the input.
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>>80871468
Sburb Glitch Guide by GodsGiftToGrinds on AO3.

Good shit.
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>>80872882
looking at this shit now and jesus christ, I love everything about this junk
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>>80872957
>"I won't say I'm sorry. I'm not. You're the one who is about to be sorry, because it's time for you to stop construing adventures as games that you can win or lose. These are empty words from a world bygone that used to make sense. Where you are going, you won't need them. It is a place that has fuck-all to do with the idea of victory or defeat. Because you are not going to win this. You already lost. You lost the second you got your hands on that Sburb CD and grinned like an idiot. Now you're just making one continuous mistake as you ride the I-keep-losing-forever train, off the rails, right into the endless desert of shit-not-making-sense after crashing through every obstacle of reason and common sense that you could cling unto so you could hope to pretend you knew what you were doing."

Me too anon, me too.
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who ARADIA here
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>>80873472
No one cause we dont have shit taste
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>Terezi drinks like 3000 bottles of faygo
>Doesn't get fat
>Dead!Vriska lives in a dream bubble, eats nothing
>Is implied to have gained weight somehow
>When she's fucking DEAD

I really don't know why this kind of stuff bothers me. If you're going to have realistic stuff like characters changing age/weight/etc why can't it be consistent? Hell, Roxy is a massive alcoholic at like sixteen and it doesn't appear to have affected her at all. Homestuck is so weird in its arbitrary definitions of what lifestyles are "good" and "bad."

I'll fap anyway, but still
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>>80873625
terezi couldve gained weight and it just wasnt mentioned
its not like hussie ever draws the fat characters as fat anyway
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>>80873625
Most likely, both versions of Vriska are already fat. Alive!Vriska is just projecting her self-image issues on (Vriska). It works even if she's thin as a stick: she holds herself to pointlessly high standards and berates "herself" for not being up to them, because her self-esteem is shit.
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>>80870655
asspull retconned... sort of...

http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009823
ARQUIUSPRITE: *Arquius submits his question to Davepeta in the form of a third person statement, thereby acknowledging once and for all that he is in no way above the childish nonsense of his former moirail*
ARQUIUSPRITE: *He in fact acknowledges by e%tension that he is not above anything or anyone, and never was*

>>80866585
>>80866965
I wonder what was the significance of the robo-kiss. Was it really just a one off joke to show that 'wew troll romance sure is weird!' ? On another note why were the robot body for Aradia necessary? She probably would've only fought with her psionics so... can't she just use her powers without a physical body?
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which homestuck character could this bitch pass as?
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>>80874785
Flo from Progressive.
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>>80871468
Furever is still my favourite homestuck fan thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xnsen4t-rlc

besides pic related, anyway
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>>80874785
Scout's mother
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>>80875090
>>80874905
I think she'd be a good vriska.
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>>80875115
not scrawny enough
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>>80864639
>>>/out/
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>>80875134
none of the other HS girls have enough of a bitchy looking face
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>>80875134
What happened to the rest of the comic?
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>>80875256
never finished.
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>>80875316
honestly, the first three panels by themselves are better
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>>80875090
Why would Shrek lay eggs? He's a male, first of all, and Fiona had a pregnancy in Shrek the Third.
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>>80875351
you mean four panels.

I see what you're getting at, being a simple strip, where the resolution is left to the imagination, but at the same I disagree with your opinion.
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>that one smut fic where Karkat got randomly horny during the meteor trip and imagined scenarios on how he would ravish someone
>first one starts with him talking with Feferi and Sollux
>Karkat then dreams how he starts to kiss Feferi messily, lick her body clean and then keep eating her out, until he tastes fuchsia love juice
>having the urge to mastrubate, he hastily ends the conversation and tries to quit the main room
>Vriska stops him to brag about her latest achievements and helping Tavros overcome his stairs problem with his new legs
>instead of getting angry at her egoism, his boner gets harder for wanting to dominate her, slap her butt to discipline her and how he shall reward her obedience with a candyred shower
>he just ignores her and now runs towards the teleporter pad
>Kanaya sees him running and she catches Karkat like a football player and suplexes him into the ground
>asks him for romance advice for her girlfriend problem
>he starts sweating for noticing her fine hips and how he wants to caress them, love them and thrusting his dick through them
>just holding her tight and then fucking her mercilessly
>his advice is him creaming inside her and then giving her whole body hickeys
>that's what he would do, before shoosh-papping Kanaya out of the way and doing a backflip, landing exactly at the pad
>fic discontinued, but the author planned to do the other girls as well

God FUCKING DAMN
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>>80875533
got a link?
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>>80874782
>asspull retconned... sort of...
That's Hussie's usual, badly done tell-don't-show character development, not a retcon, isn't it?

Also, the Aradia kiss didn't need a significance. It was here to establish Equius as a very mechanically skilled, but creepy and occasionally manipulative person, and robot!Aradia as prone to violence.
Lots of A5 troll drama has no significance, because it's just about the characters and their personalities.

>>80874785
She'd make a good Aradia.

>>80875589
It's obviously fakey fake, like fairies are.
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>>80875589
he's making shit up

every time someone posts >that one fic
a stream of chip-in-a-shoulder induced autism rant is what comes next
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>>80875316
>mfw John "slay a gay everyday" Egbert is the best thing created by steelcorridor
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>>80871468
>>80872882
>tfw you were part of a text based RP set in an IRC chat created by replayers in the Sburb Glitch FAQ universe
>tfw it's over and all the participants hate each other now
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>>80875710
>Not freedom
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>>80875870
He didnt pushed the whole freedomposting thing. The comic was only about John being manipulated by women.
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>>80875721
God I loved my RP. I missed those guys... kinda just lost contact.
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>Hussie will never make anything on the level of And It Don't Stop ever again
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>>80864183
>its a fucking crime that we don't know how classes and aspects work

Honestly? They aren't that important. I'd rather not know in explicit detail and get to fill in on my own through inference and imagination.

What I consider to be more frustrating is that we didn't see any new classpects pop up with the dancestors/alpha kids. Just to fucking throw a wrench in this idea that there are 12 of each (+Lord/Muse), which so many people seem so comfortable with. Give me hope that there are more out there, that the SBURB we have seen is only a sliver of the potential for the game.
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>>80867470
i dont think the first idea would make sense? there are very few mechanics from the comics to be exploited in that kinda game
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>>80864639

YOU
ARE
DUMB
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>>80879100
this. went back for a reread, having read mister seven, and the felt represent exactly the kind of ridiculous time/whatever bullshit i love in my homestuck
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>>80879231
Mister Seven is the only good Paradox Space comic
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>>80879332
Summerteen Romance turned out to be good too though.
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>>80879420
OK sure STR is good fun
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>>80879231

Agreed!

I also have high respect for Felt related cosplayers. They were always really chill and they were usually more inclined to talk about something other than Homestuck which, among Homestuck cosplayers, was really fucking rare.
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>>80879100
any interesting combinations (think eggs and biscuits) you can think of?

>tfw we will never see doze grab somebody and activate his power, forcing them to move his slowed body parts

>tfw we will never see caliborn instruct clover to punch sawsbuck, sending them exactly when they both need to be

>tfw we will never see itchy carry fin to the end point of future trails to enact predetermined deaths
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>>80879027
She looks mannish
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>>80879623
Just how dave likes em
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>>80868234
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>>80864057
Not gonna lie I really want some ntr porn of Gamzee cycling Dave with Terezi
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am i the only one who thinks johnroxys kind of boring?
i thought id like it before it happened but it didnt really live up to my expectations
i dont see the appeal
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>>80879649
But does she have a penis? That's what Dave really likes.
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>>80879769
No. Her vagina is soft, warm, and welcoming, like a well-kept home.
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>>80879784
Then Dave's not interested.
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>>80879819
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Dave likes both, he's just desperate to be honest.
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>>80879876
Let's not kid ourselves, Hussie made him a full fucking fag.
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>>80879499

Cans grabbing Clover and punching Sawbuck to end up 1 day/week/month/year behind where they need to be.

Crowbar hitting Doze

Crowbar hitting any of them

Stitch pricking his needles into Die's doll

Quarters and Cans' Bogus Journey

Itchy running so quickly that he sets fire to the floor and causes Matchsticks to follow him at equal speed.
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>>80879888
no he didnt
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>>80879876
Anyone who picks fucking someone else over Jade is not into girls
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>>80879888
He's still into hot moms and such.
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>>80879941
Including his own mom

And possibly his sister
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>>80879925
jade is not that good
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>>80879888

If the theme of "Everything you think will happen one way happens in the exact opposite" is true, then this was blatant from the get-go
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>>80879976
excuse you?
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>>80879972
thats jades real problem, shes the only human girl who doesnt trigger his incest fetish

really she was doomed from the get go
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>>80880053
you heard me
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>>80875721
>>80877741
>tfw came into the fandom too late to get in on any of the RP
>missed the closest thing I could get to experiencing Sburb
Fuck everything.
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>>80880059
Jane doesn't either, but I guess the fact that she triggers his MILF fetish makes up for it

But yeah in this conversation http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004690 he has a really strong reaction to incest coming up, almost like he's trying to hide the fact that he's into it
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>>80880135
+1 daw
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>>80880135
Did Nepeta ever find out about Karkat's blood color?
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>>80880206
everyone did, but she never commented on it
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>>80880206
Karkat gave a dramatic speech in front of everybody at some point. Before passing out or something. Nobody really cared.
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>>80864057
Only good thing to come out of Act 6 is Caliborn.

Shame it also ruined years of character development
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Planet < Universe < Incipisphere < Furthest Ring < Paradox Space < Whitespace/Overvoid

Did I get the universal nestling right?
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>>80879976
Who opened a portal to the Wrong Opinions dimension
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>>80880564
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>>80880295
Can you show me where that gets mentioned as having happened? I spent a while searching through Act 5. In the conversation where Karkat orders Equius to kill Gamzee, Equius acknowledges that Karkat is a "rogue-b100ded foulmouth" [sic], but other than that I can't find any reference to it.
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>>80880564
you
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Why'd they bring Vriska back and undo Karkat and Terezi? It looked like they were gonna get back together.
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>>80880673
we dont ever see it happen, we just know that it must have. equius and vriska know (mentioned in past karkat: wake up), and presumably so does everyone else.
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>>80880564
what is that cropped from?
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>>80880673
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004692

tw: fugly neps
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>>80880486
Either that, or the whitespace is meant to completely separate from paradox space.
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>>80880753
Some other irrelevant section
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>>80880753
>>80880761
Thanks m8s
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>>80865382
I've always thought some other shit would be revealed in the incoming Homestuck game or something. Hussie's only been working on it for like years, right? There's at least gotta be some shit in there that reveals some more details about sburb.
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>>80880971
the game's not even about sburb, it's about alternia
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>>80880971
So far as we're aware, the game has nothing to do with Sburb whatsoever
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>>80880997
>>80881112
I recall him saying that we'll learn more about SkaiaNet and the guardians' involvement with the development of Sburb in the Earth segments. And if Episode 1 is just Joey on Alternia, then it'll be a long while before that happens.
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>>80881497
OK that's pretty rad
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>>80880112
Well, a friend of mine is putting together a tabletop adaptation

Unfortunately it's built around Nobilis and CMWGE
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>>80880112
In our session we sort of planned out to try and make something unique happen and played it more akin to a freeform of RPG with a good GM that help us manage the whole think and would take inputs outside the actual time we were playing. I think most people do this though, trying to implement something different I mean, so we made it so one of the host/clients had a corrupted SBURB file and that would fuck over everything like make the black and white army a single army of corruption with two kings looking to corrupt the whole session (what was on out minds is very much what happened before the vriska retcon in Act 6, past [S] Game Over). Plus some mechanics being straight bugged like God Tier Ascensions not working correctly and overall a bunch of things I can't remember cause it's been 4 years.

>>80878055
That HAS been confirmed though, by Hussie in his old tumblr. The universe that created the first troll one was a Squiddles session with 48 players IIRC.
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Nobody else has mentioned it, so OP, get reading Problem Sleuth ASAP if you haven't already read it. It's not nearly as long as HS and it's fucking brilliant.
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>>80881973
Ive tried but when does it get good.
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>>80882156
(never)
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>>80880693
What did Terezi mean with this?

Also
>Karezi
>not the most forced as fuck pairing
>Nepeta getting fucked over, because her ancestor was with the Sufferer, but it's okay that Terezi's ancestor mastrubates to her cancer necklace
>muh color scheme
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>>80879478
>tfw wanted to cosplay die for years
>can't sew or apply makeup for shit
>in tiny corner of britain years away from any cons
too late now I suppose
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>>80882873
there's still time depending on how long homestuck is on life support with spinoff projects
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>>80875316
this is fucking great.
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I want to slap Terezi's teal-colored butt.
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>>80884130
I want to erase Terezi from time, leaving no evidence of her existence behind. Vriska can go too.
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>>80884165
But then Homestuck would be boring as fuck with Karkat and Kanaya being the Strilonde sex merchandise retards.
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>>80884172
Then erase Karkat and Kanaya too. We don't really need them, do we?
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>>80884198
Agreed. Here is another idea: Let's erase all the trolls.
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>>80882853
>forced as fuck
I liked it. It was good seeing someone who could both tease Karkat and reach him beneath his crusty shell.

They could actually interact without ignoring Karkat's bullshit and instead making fun of it.
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>>80884422
get rid of the kids too theyre kind of lame
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>>80884422
I like the way you think, anon.
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>>80884431
Anon, it became forced as fuck when Bec Noir brought Terezi together with Karkat as trophies and Kankri and Lutala sharing the same bullshit romance drama.

I would rather have them as friends.
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>>80884465
How is it forced? I agree that the Bec Noir 2good4thissinfulearth thing was dumb but Karkat and Terezi have more chemistry in their interactions than any other romantic pairing in the comic.
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>>80870724
>2012
wasnt the ban in like 2014?
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>>80884488
>have more chemistry
Where? When they shared a keyboard and Vriska teased them as a married couple? (Which is hilarious as fuck when Terezi and Vriska talk how perfect Dave and Karkat are)

And then Karkat was busy lusting for John and Jade, while Terezi was busy chatting with Dave the whole time?
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>>80884528
Yes it happened around the middle of the gigapause.
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>Karezi discussion
Fucking why

>>80882853
Even worse how Hussie is giving crackshippers hope that Terezi and Karkat end up in different relationships, only for Hussie to trick them and telling us how it was all according to plan to cuckold Karezi fans.
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a big difference between being forced or not is the time between panels
karezi has large spans between shipteases, johnroxy was within a day in-universe time and only the later parts of act 6, and davekat was completely within the last subact
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>>80884778
>davekat was completely within the last subact
There were teases of it before the retcon. I wouldn't say it made it less forced when it happened.
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>>80884863
well yeah, the other half of how forced it is depends on how its handled
johnroxy happened in a really short time, but it had actual good interaction so it doesn't feel that forced
meanwhile, instead of dave and karkat showing anything at all, it's just told over and over through other characters conversations how cute they are
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>>80884863
>There were teases of it before the retcon
no there weren't
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>>80884863
>were teases
We saw them as BFFs. There was no indication that they dated or had any attraction. Karkat hated Dave's guts for cucking him and Dave saw Karkat as an amusing idiot at first.

Davekat is forced as all hell and I'm hoping that it's Hussie teasing shippers before explaining that Karkat is adopting the human "quadrant" of bros.
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>>80884863
>There were teases of it before the retcon.
There were jokes, same as Dave/Rose
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In a perfect world

Karezi happened in the dreambubbles with their GO! versions, because pre-retcon Karkat deserved it
Remem8er Me is actually a farewell flash to all the GO! characters
Davekat is sunk
Vriska gets molested and raped, becoming an insecure rape victim who gets ptsd when she gets attention
All the male characters have their badass moments instead of being reduced to bumbling retards
Jade kicks Dave in the balls for cucking her with alien pussy/dick
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>>80886005
In a perfect world Davekat would never be in a position to be sunk in the first place
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>>80864057
>To me i got into Homestuck for the characters and you cant deny that Hussie writes their dialogue so distinctly that it makes them feel different from each other.

Yes I can because it isn't true for a lot of them and you're full of shit. A character's voice isn' typing quirks or a different vocabulary.
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i wish there were no trolls because then hussie wouldn't have broken everything with anything since there wouldn't have been anything to use for that and nothing would be fixed because of it
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I am rereading the comic for the first time, and I am now in early act 4, and I have to say, I am starting to realize why tumblr abandoned this comic. Everyone keeps calling each other retarded and gay unironically, and there is an oddly large number of jokes about ethnic weddings.

Another thing I notice is that while many people point out that Act 6 shifted the focus of the comic from Sburb to characters, there is another major shift. Act 1 up to the Intermission focus on Sburb as a game, and Acts 4 and 5 focus on Sburb as a world.
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>>80886041
Also, it took him up to act 4 to make John, Rose, and Dave speak differently from each other other than superficial stuff.
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>>80867006
Well she is the fat one.
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>>80875090
>There will never be any more sprite mode fanart
WHY
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>>80886005
>In a perfect world

Trolls never have a distinct presence in Homestuck. They have their initial convos with the kids but never meet up. No getting on the boat for three years. Homestuck just concerns the eight kids and two cherubs and their respective sessions, with a continual focus on the game mechanics, scratching, and the process of beating the boss, winning the game and creating a new universe. Keep it focussed and power through it within two to three years. Acts 1 - 4 only took 14 months to make, in that timeline we could have been outtie before the fandom even got really huge in 2012.

Hivebent can be a side adventure (made after HS ends) about the troll session and how shit went down on their side.
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>>80882853
Nepeta got really shafted as far as character interaction and screentime went. Her first appearance had her established as being one of Terezi's good friends and yet she barely batted an eye at seeing Nepeta's fucking headless corpse on the ground.
The plot also entirely tiptoed around having any spoken interactions between Karket and Nepeta despite the rife amount of comedic potential that her unrequited crush presented, which has always been weird to me, because Hussie loves that sort of horrible awkward dialogue.

On the other hand, no one got shafted harder than Feferi. Christ. Hussie clearly had no idea what to do with her from day one.
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>>80886623

Stop whining like a retarded faggot. It's your fault for reading such a shit webcomic.
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>>80886718
I'm not whining, I think it was written better in the first acts. It's just depressing to read, knowing that I am getting nearer and neared to the drop in quality and the tumblr pandering.
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>>80886194
Then how the eff was he supposed to get the monnies for t-shirts an shit?
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>Hussie was already freedomposting in 2009
http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003423
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Which crackship has the best porn?

SolNep and EriNep have surprisingly tons of them.
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>>80887039
karkat with anyone that isn't a main ship
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>>80887039
>Which crackship has the best porn?
-Insert popular/canon ship name here-
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>>80887371
Except Davekat, Meenkat and Meenvris.
Never saw any quality porn from these ships.

Also I am not a homosexual for checking out Davekat, but seeing how Tumblr is fascinated with fat, hobbit Karkat who cries all the fucking time and stereotypical nigger Dave, I conclude it's shit.
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>>80887524
the lack of good meenkat is a fucking mystery

where do you fags get your smut from? livejournal archives are arcane as fuck
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>>80887039
equikat

raakelh is top notch but there's plenty other artists too
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>>80887371
the best? Depends on your interests son, just like any other kinda porn.
D'you like femdom? AraEqu. Wait, did you mean lezzie femdom? HIC+Roxy. Or maybe you still want lesbians but cruel girl instead of physical domination? Rose bullying Kanaya. You like your farmhand stories, young dumb and full of cum? Jake English. or maybe the other direction, your bishonen "just as planned" protagonist to sweep you off your feet? Dirk.

Homestuck has more fetishes than the Seven Deadly Sins anime. We got you covered, senpai.
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>>80887524
>fat, hobbit Karkat

I don't know what I hate more in fanart, everyone being a 25~ish looking ripped 6 foot 2 anime bishie , or when the artist has a fetish for drawing them as the ugliest hobbity fuckers ever and everyone has enormous hooked noses and the girls are ripped for some reason.

I like my homestucks as cute kids, thanks.
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>>80866563
Good taste anon. Equius died as he lived, sweaty and inappropriately aroused.
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>>80887831
HS doesn't really have good maledom. English would work if he wasn't Caliborn; broken alien biology.

John/Roxy potentially, it's mostly vanilla with a strong male-leader role.
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>>80887992
>HS doesn't really have good maledom. English would work if he wasn't Caliborn; broken alien biology.
Dirk is sometimes used as the dom in Dirk/Jane or Dirk/Roxy.
Though, people seem to like him as the sub in Dirk/Jake for some reason.
Which reminds me of another good femdom ship, Jake/evil Jane.
I think Hussie has a thing for femdom.
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>>80888089
>Dirk
gross
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>>80887831
cuckold fetish? Aradia, Sollux & Equius. Or Feferi, Sollux & Eridan.

>>80887992
Yeah, there's maledom, but maledom and sex is a stretch. The most powerful/potent and commanding male characters are LE, Doc Scratch, and maaaybe Jack Noir (even though his dominance is subverted for laughs more than once)(okay maybe a lot).
That might play to some people's interests: the thrill of maledom without the threat of unwanted sex. Could even be comfy in a kinky kind of way.
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>>80888104
I forgot Scratch/Rose

That was some good shit, a dumb precocious girl in over head, but also limited by puppet biology.

Gamzee/Terezi is there too.
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>>80888104
>forgetting Karkat, the obligatory poor cuckold victim getting cucked by Dave and Gamzee
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>>80888168
Isn't Jade the real cuck here?

>>80888139
If Sans porn can exist by the bucketload (no pun intended), Scratch porn is possible.
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>>80888168
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>>80888348
Being Karkat is suffering
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>>80888324
>Scratch porn is possible.
it's not porn of the guy, it's the maledom relationship and the girl getting brutally fucked.
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>>80888491
At least he is a good partner for femdom chicks and can even take over the dom role.
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>>80888491
It's his own goddamn fault for refusing to change and improve in a world that demands this of everyone.
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>>80888647
you gotta stop posting this image
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>>80888324
> Scratch porn
Fuck you for reminding me of the "Every dark pocket..." comic book.

I have a really strong headcanon that Scratch would never sexually interfere with his charges, but he is very amused that people believe he would. The believers are (a) completely impotent because they can't stop him and (b) completely wrong because he wouldn't/won't/didn't molest them. Watching other people get themselves agitated over an event that won't happen is an expression of his supreme smugness.

He is an excellent host for his charges. Maybe it's a ploy: while people are scared of him doing something despicable, those people spend all their energies fruitlessly trying to block Doc Scratch's doing nothing, and thus unprepared for the good doctor's terrifying employer.
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>>80888962
>equius not crushing her head on accident
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>>80888723
you make it sound as if Scratch isn't composed of the four male characters most likely to be sexually abusive
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>>80889091
One person who sees women (like his sister) as trash. One person who is a maniacal hedonist. One person who takes duty-of-care very seriously. One person who has almost no interest in girls and certainly no interest in sex.

I'll give you 1.5 out of 4. Should be clear that LE is mostly the first two, and Doc is mostly the last two. Saying Doc has to be a misogynist would lead to saying Lord English has to be submissive.
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>>80889435
>>80889435
>forgetting gamzee and terezi's relationship, which was abusive even by kismesis standards
>forgetting dirk and jake's relationship,
>forgetting Equius while having a domination fetish he's still manipulative of many other characters, to the point of chipping Aradia's heart to love him.
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>>80889659

>Equius manipulating *many* other characters
Aradia realized what was going on literally a second after she posessed the robot body and gave him the beating he deserved. Almost instant retribution. Which doesn't make his intention any less worse but still not as bad Gamzee and Vriska who actually succesfully carry through with their manipulations and to certain degrees dodge the repercussions.

>Equius manipulating Nepeta
pls no. just no. People need to stop believing this shit about meowrails or if they won't; stop treating Meuloz as a perfectly healthy relationship ffs.
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>>80889659
Gamzee: i think you meant to say "by my standards." and how did he behave when Terezi didn't have her self-destructive streak, and he didn't have Aranea's guidance?
AR: isn't Dirk, they've had years to differentiate and AR expressed a self-image of being superior to meatbags. Even if it you think AR is an exact copy of Dirk when Dirk entered the Medium, Dir's manipulations are an insecurity thing -- he's so worried about things going wrong he feels he has to have total control. I don't see that insecurity in Doc Scratch.
CT: Show me how he has a pattern of manipulative behaviour; don't just throw out one data point and call it an entire graph.
Caliborn is still a shit, even if I understand why he's a misogynist shit it doesn't excuse his behaviour.

I get the feeling I'm wasting my time though. Has anyone ever changed someone's mind on the internet, or do people argue just so they can clutch at their ideas even tighter? (Will I change? unlikely.)
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>>80890246
> have you seen this kid.
holy shit that is cute. and a cookie to go with the milk asdf;lkj
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>>80864057
While I can't deny that his characters (though mostly one-note and static) are enthralling and loveable, he threw off my goddamn cosmic balance when he kept on adding layers on top of each other that pretended to make sense.

Secrets from the future: he's right. But not.
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>>80890283
>caliborn has no eyelashes
What is this shit?
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>>80890624
makes him look more masculine and therefore sinister
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>>80886005
>Vriska gets molested and raped, becoming an insecure rape victim who gets ptsd when she gets attention
In a perfect world who would do it?

>>80888104
Diamonds Droog works pretty well with maledom. Too bad he's a chess-person and overlooked secondary character.
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>>80890793
>who would do it
The whole ghost army taking turns on her.
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>>80888104
>That might play to some people's interests: the thrill of maledom without the threat of unwanted sex.
thus is why rose/scratch is so good
even in human aus, but only if they never actually have sex
just the story of rose being enamored of someone wiser and more powerful without realizing what a piece of shit he is, and he enjoys being thought of as superior
and then she does realize
and breaks him by telling him he's nothing and impotent and pathetic and not actually powerful at all
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>>80890283
> Aranea using Gamzee to make her abusive sex fanfics into reality
oh jeez.
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>>80890361
>he kept on adding layers on top of each other that pretended to make sense.

Hussie's priorities have obviously changed since he began HS. What started as a wacky video game inspired comedy is has been a YA epic with a lot of character drama for the majority of it's run.

This meant characters originally meant not to have deep character arcs had them thrust upon them. I reckon if he had preplanned the story of HS to be a story like what it is now, the character's arcs would be a whole lot more coherent.

The 'make it up as you go along' method of writing created more problems. The pre-scratch characters kind of became stagnant after Act 5, so Hussie had to put in a bunch of extra shit to create conflict. Therefore: Terezi, Gamzee, Dave and Karkat drama, and Rose becoming an alcoholic.

Another thing pre-planning would have helped with is the comic's themes. At the moment it seems to be heading towards some kind of epiphany on what the 'self' is. Whether alternate versions of each character truly are them, and if you should be responsible for the actions of the other versions, or if they are different people entirely because they have had different experiences, or most likely a combination of the two. Davepeta and Jasprose, are part of this, (Vriska) also links in and whatever Terezi actually did in remember is also probably relevant. Different characters provide different opinions on this, and I don't think it's just Hussie being inconsistent with his views. This is a main par of A6A6I5, which I don't think is essentially terrible, it's just really poorly executed and the art takes a big downfall. What is said in 500 pages could have been said in 200 or less. Less Vriska fellating would have been nice too.

But before Act 6 the main theme was more about fate and inevitability, and how time travel would affect that. 'He is already here' and all that. I think these can be unified into a satisfying conclusion, but whether they will is up to Hussie.
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>>80891176
Aranea is a kinky bitch, that much is known
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>>80888104
>LE, Doc Scratch, and maaaybe Jack Noir
All who are basically confirmed to not have dicks.
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>>80890867
>Tavros and Meena betray Vriska
>they sell her as a sex slave to the whole army
>suddenly a million Nepetas storm over her and start molesting her
>forcing her to clean every dirty Neppussy
>Robo-Aradias with their turbodicks fucking her raw
>two Cronus slampora'ing her, while Eridans and other Cronuses stroke their dicks for the impending violet semen shower
>a semen-covered Vriska being held and fucked in front of the army on a podest by a happy, smiling alt Karkat
>her expression: crying and aroused at the same time, disgusted by herself
>then, forced into doggystyle by another Karkat and finally meeting (Vriska) again, who orders her to clean her pussy as well, on the podest in front of the army
>also Tavros and Meenah are swimming in mad dosh in the epilogue

Would you read this fic?
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>>80891306
That makes me think of something
>Tavros and Meenah hooking up and double cucking Vriska

I haven't considered that ship before but it kind of works.
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>>80891217
More themes in Homestuck:
Hussie considers isolation to be a big one, but personally I can't really see it. Mostly beacuse he fucked it up by not giving enough importance to when the main characters finally meet.
The alpha kids(as well as a lot of early Act 6) have 'waiting' as theme, which was a terrible idea since it just sets the story up for long stretches of dullness. Myststuck gave off the best feeling of this, but it wasn't really touched on again.
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>>80891306
Oh shit, I also forgot to write these parts:

>(Vriska) thinking she is superior to her alpha self
>doesn't realize that the Ghost army didn't forget her bullshit
>another Karkat suddenly grabs her from behind and then fucks her doggystyle as well
>both Vriskas looking at each other in pure horror while the ghost army is laughing and cheering
>then they scream in unison when they reach their orgasm and get creampied
>(Vriska) is let go and starts running away and crying, (Terezi) having to escort her and facepalming at (Vriska)'s stupid final revenge plan
>one person is asking where the weird-looking orange guy is who is obsessed over Vriska
>scene shifts to Hussie getting his dick sucked by Aranea and promising her that she will get a redemption arc if she keeps on sucking every day
>one of the results was Aranea being allowed to write the command (Remem8er)
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>>80891823
I know "patience" was the lesson of Dave's entry item. The puzzle of the egg was to leave it alone long enough to hatch, to let it just "be." Sounds like the lesson Dirk needs to learn now that I say it out loud.
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>>80891306
>>80892508
/homosuck/ please go
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>>80892912
Homosuck Act 2 could literally be a /co/ 'rewrite'.
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>>80892912
That's too Homestuck related for /homosuck/.
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>>80893040
it's about violent rape and humiliation
it's homosuck
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>>80893117
that's not quite how that works
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>yfw ">[S] John: Reunite with your loving wife and daughter." actually foreshadowed John/Roxy
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>>80893268
john's obsession with that movie foreshadowed johnroxy
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>>80891217
>What is said in 500 pages could have been said in 200 or less.
>>80891823
>Mostly beacuse he fucked it up by not giving enough importance to when the main characters finally meet.

Absolutely. Regardless of your opinion on all the new characters, the trolls, the shipping, tonal shifts or whatever you have to admit that these have been the biggest downfalls of post A5 Homestuck.

It just seems like Hussie barely touches on the shit that's supposed to be important, to the point where I feel a lot of it is mostly just fan conjecture at this point, then spends days giving us huge dumps of barely-in-character rambling.
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Post John E again
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>>80893967
Honestly considering Nepeta's huntress lifestyle and that Equius's superhuman strength is due entirely to genetics/mutation and he's probably never found anything heavy enough to effectively work out with, this arrangement makes sense.
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>>80894255
Makes sense for my dick too.
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FUCK KATNEP
F8CK DAVEKAT
FUCK (VRISKA)
FUUUUUUUUCK KAREZI
FUCK EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!
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>>80895122
well what do you propose then
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>>80895122
davekat is canon loser
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>>80895395
yeah, canonically shit
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>>80895122
>Karkat throws a tantrum
>everyone starts laughing
>Vriska throws a tantrum like a little manlet
>everyone cringes, because she isn't badass

Seriously? No one laughed at that part?
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>>80895679
Why is Aradia smiling?

What's the consensus on whether she's evil or not? I guess she's technically neutral, but staying neutral in a fight that's a bunch of kids versus an unkillable demon with inevitability on his side is kind a douchey thing to do.
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>>80893268
there was actually a lot of johnroxy foreshadowing
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>>80894255
>equius has super human strength
>therefore he has no muscles

????
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>>80896010
People were calling JohnRoxy as soon as Roxy was introduced.
Who else was he going to end up with?
Rose was clearly getting paired off with Kanaya. Jade and Jane are related to him. Vriska was dead and also dating that alt John. Terezi was in the middle of that Dave/Karkat love triangle (this was before the humans can do trollmance thing). Only relevant female character left was Roxy.

On the trollmance thing, people are saying it's a retcon, but I don't think it was. Word of god has always been that it's only the fact that the quadrants are classified as romance that was alien, but the feelings are essentially the same as human ones.

But I don't think blackrom Johnrezi will ever be official. It will probably just be teases and then Terezi will die or they will be separated or something.
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>>80895799
She's English's bride to-be.
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>>80893967

This is the version of Equius that I always imagined was true.

A gawky, undersized person who was seemingly cursed with a nonsensical amount of strength vs his total body mass.

I also hate how fanartists completely missed this joke within his character when they would draw him as some tall overbuilt hulk. If anything, Sollux or Eridan are likely tallest out of all of them.
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>>80875721
I remember seeing a ChatLog done by the charecters. It was supposed to bring up the subject of the Saccharine Doppelgangers. (What they called Trickster Mode)

It was 4-5 RP-ers, with 2 of them trying to discuss strategy/observations/sightings of the Tricksters, which was great, and what I wanted to see.

However, every 4th fucking post was "Omg guys I hate the SD's please stop talking about them you're scaring me OMG OMG OMG" with some inane quirk like replacing all the M's with 2 N's or something. Said player also had two "friends" who were agreeing with them and basically saying "Guys stop you're scaring her."

Like, STFU you stupid RPer, I want to learn about the mechanics of the Glitch Sburb Universe, not your fucking OC you cooked up in 3 minutes who's got a backbone as solid as wet noodles.

THEN I saw some Tumblr-conversation (I never understood how Tumblr works with the reblogs and stuff) which basically had some guy saying "We made this RP to explore charecters, not the setting we're in. You don't read Harry Potter to learn more about Hogwarts, you read it to see what Harry, Hermione and Ron are doing!"

Basically, fuck it, something amazing was ruined.
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>>80895799
>Why is Aradia smiling?

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007928
She's been smiling because she can't wait for everything to break apart. Seems like she can wait 3+ years. nonstop smiling ofc or she's just kooky. and that's fappable af.

I don't think there really is a consensus; tumblrettes believe that she's not evil and still siding with ther friends.
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>>80895122
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I think it's cool that Sburb continually accounts for and propogates Lord English as its grim reaper for long since past sessions.

But I think it's also dumb, that despite his influence, English only pulls influence from three sessions.

and I can't remember why he's the villain when the role he's performing is "natural" and already accounted for sburb.
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>>80896575
FUCK KATNE-
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>>80896661
jeez, why would anyone draw Equius with the most muscle defintion of any troll?
I mean, he's only described as being a freakishly strong 13 year old. And as we all know, muscles have nothing to do with strength
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>>80896752
>>80896661

Like really, there's no reason to ever believe Equius is anything more than a stick or will ever be anything more than a stick.

I literally can't even, like literally.
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>>80896787
>>80896752
>>80896661

literally.
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>>80896752
>>80896787
>>80896839
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>>80896697
He's a necessary evil maybe but it doesn't mean he's not evil. On the other hand the whole idea of fighting him directly came pretty much entirely from two disreputable thieves.
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>>80896839
>>80896839
>http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=007556
>The glitches literally start appearing the second Lord English is already there.
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What happen if alpha Karkat meets his Game Over self?
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>>80897159
The shittiest and most wacked-out wank-off in the history of Paradox Space, retroactive and henceforth.
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>>80897113
What is English's end game? To fuck his dead sister?
The kids get zip out of killing him. At least Condesce is the describable threat to the on-going existence of the living kids. English is happy to fuck off to nowhere and kill space squids and the shitty dead children living in their foamy semen.

Talk about a cool design and concept wasted on a shitty fucking villain. Adventure Time's Lich all over again.
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>>80879027
what appened to jade is fucking pathetic.
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>>80896697
>Lord English as its grim reaper for long since past sessions.

Pretty sure this is your headcanon m8.

So far what we (seem to) know about LE:

Caliborn got his powers by beating Yaldabaoth.

LE was first created by sealing the souls of Gamzee, Arquius and Caliborn into Lil Cal.

Lil Cal was an ectobiological parent to Doc Scratch, who was created by Snowman.

LE emerged from Scratch due to a code on a server in the furthest ring that summoned him at the end of the universe.

He recruited the Handmaid.

He then travelled back in time to fuck with Alternia enough to ensure his own existence, and possibly at the same time was the leader of the felt, who got to A2 somehow.

At some point (possibly automatically) he recruited the Condesce when she killed the Handmaid who was given some kind of power to travel between universes.

He started trying to destroy the furthest ring to try and get to Calliope.

Not much about him being a natural process of Sburb. He's a bunch of players, not a game construct.
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>>80897318
Consider the following: (Vriska) getting her groove back and teaming up with Vriska
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>>80897791
>>Lord English as its grim reaper for long since past sessions.
he's been described as being death. At least one by Terezi

TEREZI: OH, 4ND GUYS, JUST FOR TH3 S4K3 OF MULT1CULTUR4L CL4R1TY, W3 TROLLS TR34T D34TH 1TS3LF 4S 4 MYTHOLOG1C4L F1GUR3
TEREZI: H3 1S 4 M4N W1TH 4 FR1GHT3N1NG SKULL FOR 4 H34D 4ND 4 T3RR1BL3 HYPNOT1C GL4R3
TEREZI: 4LL TH3 L3G3NDS S4Y H3S GOT TH1S SUP3R FOXY H4NDM41D TO DO H1S D1RTYWORK
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>>80897743
It really is.
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>>80897528
The main problem with LE is that he never causes that many direct threats. He's not even really a conspirator since he's too dumb to do that. He fucks shit up but it's all indirect.
The 'he's already here' shit is a cool concept for a villain. The kids are esssentially fighting against inevitability itself. But LE should have at least killed one major character before Meenahbound, or we have no reason to care. Caliborn: Enter was a step in the right direction but it wasn't enough.
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>>80897881
Okay, you win. I'll slither my idea down to number 2.

Jesus christ why did you even type that I think I'm gonna be sick.
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>>80897890
Terezi's quirk in a different font is straight up painful to read.
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What if Calliope is the real villain? I mean, what if shes is just manipulating everyone only to make her the star of her "fanfic"? Lord English ia puppet afterall, she could be using him as a tool to pose as a villain where she is the only one who can defeat.
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>>80897881
oh god, can you even imagine the amount of self-congratulatory bullshit they'd spew out at each other
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>>80898165
People would say Hussie had ripped that twist out of Undertale. It would be kind of shitty to after al this time say 'oh yeah Calliope's the villain'.

Although red herrings do swim through Caliborn's veins, and that alt Callie was pretty sinister. I'm sure she'll end up being evil, or at least have a really odd moral compass that puts her at odds with Jade.
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>it's a "finish your school project" episode
>all twelve trolls are forced into four groups

>Aradia, Nepeta, Equius
>Tavros, Kanaya, Gamzee
>Sollux, Terezi, Eridan
>Karkat, Vriska, Feferi

How would each group fare on their school project?
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>>80898020
I was going to try to come up with something worse, but all of my ideas involve Vriska. Holy shit, why'd Hussie have to bring her back?
Imagine Vriska from the timeline where she killed Bec Noir coming back tho
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>>80898165
Not crazy enough. More like, they're both in it from the opposite sides. Lord English could be Calliope's puppet while "Muse English" is Caliborn's.
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>>80898683
>Lord English could be Calliope's puppet while "Muse English" is Caliborn's.
that still makes calliope the villain
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>>80898628
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>>80896671
>We made this RP to explore charecters, not the setting we're in. You don't read Harry Potter to learn more about Hogwarts, you read it to see what Harry, Hermione and Ron are doing!
But the worldbuilding is the best thing about Harry Potter.
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>>80898512
>Aradia, Nepeta, Equius
Nepeta would have to break out of her moiraillegiance with Equius to auspistice between him and Aradia. Nothing goes well.

>Tavros, Kanaya, Gamzee
Tavros and Kanaya are working fine, but Gamzee does nothing. Kanaya confiscates Gamzee's pies. Nothing goes well.

>Sollux, Terezi, Eridan
Eridan keeps trying to arrange days to the project where Sollux can't come so he can be alone with Terezi. Terezi and Sollux keep trying to arrange days to avoid Eridan. Nothing goes well.

>Karkat, Vriska, Feferi
Karkat and Vriska keep arguing over who will be the leader. Hatefucking ensues. Feferi does the project on her own but it's all about fish. It's meant to be for history. Nothing goes well.
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Do you guys think John got bullied in school?
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>>80898628
Why are Aranea and her thighs so fucking hot?
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>>80898865
I'd bully john.
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>>80898712
Caliborn's goal is to kill more people. They're both quite dangerous.
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>>80898865
John probably suffered common bullying. You know, wedgies, locked in his closet and similars.

Rose suffered psicological bullying with people calling her names and avoiding her at all cost.

Dave was homeschooled. Only his Bro bullied him.
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>>80898868
Just about every troll girl is fucking hot, Aranea's got thighs, blind girl has nice ass, Kanaya's got luscious lips, etc.
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>>80899027
but what about the Dolorosa anon?
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You know, I think I see more kid fanart than troll fanart these days. Is this a good or a bad thing?
(I think it's probably to do with people associating the trolls with the cancerous fandom from 2012)
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Anon who knows nothing about HS here
What is this paradox space webcomic
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>>80899192
Official fanfic
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>>80899093
Sorry anon, I ain't got pics of her. She dresses conservatively, but she is tall so she probably has legs for miles.
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>>80899192
Andrew paid other people to make Homestuck comics for him.
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>>80899093
LONG
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>>80899192
Side project meant to fill the void between big haituses. Hussie paid a bunch of starving fan artists and people he worked with in the past on HS flashes to do sorta canon mini comics exploring the homestuck world. Of course this was completely squandered and instead of doing fun interesting comics they all took the easy route and did lol what do they do with their garbage on the meteor? There were maybe 2 possibly 3 not incredibly shitty comics that weren't written by hussie himself.

All the ones hussie wrote are fucking gold though.
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>>80899192
A side comic by other artists that was meant to try and pacify fans during a year long hiatus.
The strips really vary in quality and most were less than 10 pages long. Fans were kind of lukewarm on it, since it was essentially a higher quality version of the fan comics you could find anywhere as there was no word on whether it were canon or not.
Once Homestuck came off hiatus it was cancelled, as it turned out to be too expensive to make.
Only 2 of the PxS comics are widely considered worth reading, The Inaugural Death of Mister Seven, and Summerteen Romance. They will make little to no sense if you haven't read Homestuck, and it goes without saying that you shouldn't read Homestuck just to understand them.
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Hmm, the paradox space bar on the site is broken. Could this mean anything?
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>>80899764
Hussie accidentally deleted the image, probably.
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>>80899886
That must mean he was fucking with the website.
Maybe he was doing something to prepare for the onslaught of 4/13 trafffic. (I know fuck all about computers so I don't know what he'd be doing)
I didn't give a shit about Homestuck last year and I still checked the website out on 4/13 to see if it had updated.
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>>80900091
To be honest all the traffic that's going to hit the site will be us, thirty people from Reddit, and ten people from Tumblr.
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What will the final panel of Homestuck look like?
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>>80900489
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>>80898628
Does that timeline even physically exist? I was under the impression it was all a Mind-powers vision. There was no time travel involved to create it, after all.
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>>80900454
Do you really think that there are Only a dozen people still reading homestuck? You're far from wrong.
Sure, the traffic isn't heavy like the newgrounds breakout tome but still there are plenty
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>>80900713
Information traveled and it didn't form a loop.
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>>80900793
>Do you really think that there are Only a dozen people still reading homestuck? You're far from wrong.
so he's right?
I agree
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>>80900489
this >>80900711 except with Joey............?
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>>80900793
Homestuck is only a little less popular than it was during Cascade, at least according to google trends. The 'we crashed newgrounds' thing is pretty much entirely unknown outside the HS fandom. It only hit it's peak during the Kickstarter.
There are probably more readers now than there were at Cascade, they just have no reason to check the site so often since it's on hiatus.
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>>80900713
I mean, considering all of the alternate versions in the dream bubbles I'm sure there's some way that timeline or a similar timeline was created.
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>>80866337
Because her girlfriend wears it
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>>80901878
>popularity is a bit below Cascade levels
Honestly, I'm shocked.
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>>80901878
Why's there a massive jump on the kickstarter?
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>>80901289
Shit. What I wanted to say is "far from right"
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>>80902354
It was one of the first Kickstarters to make $1 mil, so it got a bunch of coverage on unrelated news sites.
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>>80864057
Where are the lewd edits of this panel?
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>>80895799
She's fucking crazy is why
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>>80897743
what appened to homestuck is fucking pathetic.
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>>80871468
>I didn't ask to be right or to be lonely
>or to be hatched into an ugly story
Man that one was really something neat from PhemieC
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>>80897743
I guess Vriska is the fourth kid now.
FOURTH LARGEST AMOUNT OF DIALOGUE IN THE COMIC
MORE THAN EVERY NON-KARKAT/KANAYA/TEREZI TROLL'S DIALOGUE PUT TOGETHER
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>>80898734
And that's basically what anon was saying with his post!
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>>80903563
I think I should be tired of getting angry at Hussie, but it really isn't stopping. Vriska was the worst fucking thing to happen to Homestuck. Sure, at the beginning she was a good character, and everything up to her death was fine. But then she comes back as a prominent ghost, which is decent. But then it goes to her lesbian ghost frolicking, and then the fucking year(year and a half???) of time between wondering what John was going to use his retcon abillity for turned out to bring fucking Vriska back to life who then fixes everything and makes the last 4 years or so of the comic irrelevant, while also skipping over all of the development and events that happened during the new version of that time. I'll say it in red, Hussie is a hack.
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>>80904557
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>>80903261
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>>80903891
Reading this is making me mad all over again

Fuck Hussie
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If the Homestuck finale isn't at least this pretty I will flip my shit
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>>80864057
Bro, all I know is that panel of Terezi gets me so hard and I just don't know why. Someone explain my boner to me.
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>>80906692

>>80905210
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>>80906635
don't call me shirely
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>>80896672
I actually like how out of all the troll god tiers she's the one that actually acts like a magic winged fairy. All mysterious with vague affiliations and doing things for her own unfathomable reasons. This is what turning into a god should do to you.
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>>80906676
It's going to be outsourced art again. Except this time only the bottom of the barrel tumblrinas will be willing to help.
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>>80906676
Anon, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Hussnasty is dead, it's all about FAST AND LOOSE
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>>80907121
>>80907134
I am well aware of this.

I have been stockpiling shit for this event. It will be the Shit-Flippening. Shit will be flipped like it has never been flipped before, or will ever be flipped again.
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>>80898865
Did the kids even go to school? I feel like that was a running theme throughout the series, they're mostly on their own. Dirk and Roxy's "upbringing" might have even been poking fun at this.
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>>80907694
Definitely not Jade and maybe not Dave, but I'm certain John and Rose went to school at some point in time.
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random thought: if homestuck was a show it wouldn't have "vriska episodes", it'd have "vriska seasons"
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>>80907694
It was already 4 PM for John when the story started, evening for Dave, and night for Rose. They all could have conceivably been done for school for the day.
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>>80907766
Rose lives out in the middle of fucking nowhere (https://www.google.com/maps/place/44%C2%B031'03.0%22N+74%C2%B049'17.0%22W/@44.5175038,-74.8235776,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0) so I'd bet she doesn't. Besides, Mom is rich enough to get her a tutor.
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>>80887962
Thats how I wanna die right there
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>>80906975
I think her mysteriousness is mostly to be associated with the general theme of her 'foreboding prophecy' shtick. What with stuff like *apocalypse*Arisen, her last name: mount megiddo being a site for gathering armies before the *end times*...

Now I also wonder if time players can travel to the future, or at least see the future?
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>>80907931
Hold on, I just checked and there's a public school that serves Pre-K through 12 just 15 minutes away. Maybe she does go there.

Of course, I doubt she does since it's not ostentatious enough for Mom. Rose probably goes to a private school or has a tutor. The nearest private school is about half an hour from Rainbow Falls, but it's a Catholic school and I don't know that that'd be Mom's style either, especially since she knows about Sburb and shit (though I guess you don't have to be Catholic to go to a Catholic school)

I'm going to stop now because this is dumb
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>>80907766
>certain
I mean, the only indication that they went to school is that they're literate. They make no mention of schooling, teachers, or knowing other people that aren't celebrities or other characters.

Homeschool? That's why they're homeSTUCK? Cus' they were homeSCHOOLED? Damn....
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>>80867318
I didnt realize Eggs and Biscuits were that size until the part where
Caliborn has to go through the planets and destroy them[!spoiler]
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>>80907811
It would be like Friends, if Friends ended at season 4 and they switched to that Joey show and kept it running.
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>>80908278
Even if the kids (sans Jade) do go to school, they don't seem to engage with it very much. Rose and Dave both mention that this is their first experience with real-life friends, and John doesn't ever acknowledge having had any himself.
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>>80870970
Make her a member of the midnight crew
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>>80908384
>Rose and Dave both mention that this is their first experience with real-life friends
Huh. Can you point me to it, I don't remember that at all. I just assumed their lives outside of home were supposed to be undefined.
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Could all jujus have souls in them?
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>>80908550
>there can be multiple versions of the same person running around at any time
>there can only be one juju
They're well above that
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If you guys could go back in time and change one thing in Hussie's life to save Homestuck, what would it be? And I mean anything, from stopping him from meeting Rachel, to letting his dad live for some extra years, making Bill Bolin not have his meltdown, etc.
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>>80908704
>Hussie never meets Toby
What if I want to ruin Homestuck?
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>>80897528
Well it is stated that he has trouble >"Learning Things"
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>>80908704
who the fuck was bill bolin again
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>>80897528
he just likes to destroy things
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>>80908534
Rose mentions it directly:
>ROSE: I never had "IRL" friends before this trip.
>ROSE: It's interesting to observe the various ways they apply themselves to your benefit.
>ROSE: Some people are around to make you feel like you're worth sticking with, even when you fuck up.
>ROSE: And some people are around to kick your ass to make sure you don't.
From: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009395

Dave doesn't directly say it, but he does imply he was socially isolated:
>DAVE: i only started getting it after spending a lot of time in person with a bunch of people who actually did care about me
>DAVE: and i could start feeling like
>DAVE: actually somewhat human for the first time
>DAVE: instead of...
>DAVE: some sort of runty afterthought to a household cabal of smutty puppets
From: http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=009649
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>>80908759
Huh, that would be something. It could actually save Homestuck since it would've probably been less popular without his music. That might also stop Undertale from existing, which is a big plus for some people.
>>80908815
That guy who made music, freaked out and then had all of his stuff removed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJYe5-PAD2Y
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>>80908875
Thanks. I should have figured it was a A6A6I5 thing.
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>>80899093
Milf
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>>80908550
Probably not, but the two major ones of Lil' Cal and the Ultimate Weapon most certainly do. I still like to believe that, like Cal, the four sealed within the weapon have merged into one unified soul over the course of the countless eons spent locked away, biding their time until they're released to slay English.
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>>80908704
My least favorite thing about discussing Homestuck on /co/ (currently) is people bringing up Hussie's personal life.

So I would change it so he never became a public persona.
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>>80899027
Doesn't every character have literally the exact same body? Like, aren't bodytypes effectively headcanon?
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>>80909621
Terezi's the one character's ass that we've actually seen, and Kanaya had some focus on her lips with her lipstick. But basically yeah, it's all just fanwank, with the exception of the few times that we see some detail in hero mode and such.
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>>80909621
More or less, with occasional slight variations like Jane being big-tittied and Equius being muscular. But otherwise dumbshit headcanons like "Jane/Feferi is fat" are just that - dumb shit.
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NEVER FORGET HSG, /hst/.
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whos your least favourite hs character (other than vriska) and why?
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>>80910801
Cronus
At first I didnt understand the hate, I thought "Hey hes kinda funny I dont see the problem here". Then he rips into Mituna, like theres being an asshole and still being funny (Karkat) and then theres just being an asshole
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>>80910801
Jake. Everything he says and does is stupid. He's a useless fucking idiot.
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>>80910801
Every troll, and their ancestors.

None of them belong on the story.
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>>80910801
Fef, because there's nothing to her. I ain't counting Ancestors because they don't count.
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>>80910801
Kanaya. Just boring.
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>>80910801

All of the earth-2 kids. Jake, dirk, and Jane are all wastes of time. None of them build on their siblings or create an interesting dynamic between their characters. The only ones that attempt any sort of interesting relationship are dirk and Dave, and the end result of that was both characters coming away as miserable fucks.

Roy is fine, but that's because he actually seems to be a person with wants and aspirations and a character arc outside of her sexual orientation.

Which means she'll probably just get killed off so NuDave or Jake can whine some more.
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>>80910495
I'd very much rather if we could
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>>80910801
More like which ones do I care about at all.
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>>80910801
mindfang and cronus but i almost feel like they dont even count. its just too obvious.
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>>80910801
Andrew Hussie
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>>80911723
Seconding this
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>>80906676

Hey, I remember when this comic looked cool. It's been a while. Like, years
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>>80864411
bowman a cute

CUTE
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>>80911898
>someone told him about us
>he seems to not care
bowman a cool

COOL
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If the game doesn't have some great tunes, I'll be fucking pissed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAlt8IgOgPQ
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>>80912446
video unrelated but this track was ripped from a hiveswap update trailer when it was still in 3d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqER15O4bpQ
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>>80912446
Luckily they got JAMES ROACH and some nobody called Tobias "Radio" Fawkes.
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Who is the cutest Homestuck character?
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>>80913379
one of these little guys
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>>80864639

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll3gOluKb5Y&list=PLoRm50nM0FEr23_gXvkcm_8179vKdp1bI

just do it
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>>80913379
Any of the kids.
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>>80913532
I want crowbar to _pry my heart
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>>80913379
Ms. Paint.
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>>80913379
DUDE
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>>80874782
>I wonder what was the significance of the robo-kiss. Was it really just a one off joke to show that 'wew troll romance sure is weird!' ?

Remember this: Aries/Sagittarius
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>>80913633
aw dude I didnt need the warm and fuzzies right now
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>>80913379
Equius
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>>80914092
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>>80914140
john is stronger than equius
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>>80914197
Conjecture.
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>>80914335
proof: part of equius's intro states that he has 'astonishing might of your mangrit', and mangrit is known to be the indicator stat for physical strength.

upon john's ascension in the godtiers post-cascade, his mangrit is described as '[...]off the charts. You're embarrassed for us to even know what it is. It's that gaudy.' later, after remodeling vriska's face, he states that "JOHN: i got a lot of extra punching practice in my fight with the skull jerk.
JOHN: maybe i gained a bit too much man grit for my own good?", meaning he grew even stronger than the 'gaudy' level he was at 3 years ago.

contrasting, equius has been dead and unable to become stronger, then became a sprite that likes to flex and do little else.
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>>80913532
>Don't forget you're hime forever
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>>80914814
can totally see the psych ward full of trolls though, ending with tavros getting laid
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>>80915154
Well who else would I be? I mean, really
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>>80915166
And killing himself after Nurse Lalonde threatens to tell Vriska
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>Pokemonstuck
>People always give Karkat a Krabby
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>>80915413
He's not cool enough for a Crawdaunt or a Clawitzer, so he gets rabid bubble crab.
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Hey! Chief! Pick that bubbler up and throw it through the window!
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>>80915506
>>80915269
the two girls they smuggle in are the whores from PS
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i want karkat to be cucked
not because its hot, but because i want to see him sad
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>>80915553
In a straight adaption of OFOtCN, Karkat wouldn't be McMurphy, though.

Not really and HS males who are racist, womanizing assholes like McMurphy is.
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>>80915625
Just read Homestuck, he gets cucked to hell and back in that.
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>>80915625
I want to see karkat happy. He gets shit on so much. Of course, he's a huge douche, but he just wants things to run smoothly, and doesn't suffer fools well at all. I can understand him.
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>>80915490
Every anti-Rosekan pic I see makes me happy and helps me cope with how much Rose's character has been squandered.
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>>80915722
He has all the power to change his situation and alleviate his fears, and he willingly chooses not to use it. You can't just hope and pray shit will get better if you just coast; now is the time for them to step up and grasp at the reality they so desire. The meteor trip has made them dull, and Karkat is an idiot.
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>people relate to Tavros
>not Karkat the manlet

I am a manlet, so I understand his feels.
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>>80915934
cuck
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>>80915858
They're kids dude. Give them a break.
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>>80915722
i dont even dislike karkat
it just seems like a funny concept
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>>80915990
>Give them a break.
They don't get that option anymore. They had 3 years to take a break and get ready. The meteor crew squandered that.

>They're kids dude.
Caliborn is even younger. Look how he turned out.
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post fat cat butt
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Imagine if Vriska didn't exist and Tavros was never bullied at all

Imagine when Tavros becomes the succesful leader, while Karkat just turns into a NEET
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>>80917330
Karkat basically is a NEET
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We'll build a wall around Bilious Slick and the Alternians will pay for it!
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>>80917415
nearly every character in HS are NEETs. we see almost all the exiles turn into NEETs throughout the story
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>>80917494
Now that the meteor has arrived in the new session, most of them are preparing to exit NEET mode. Karkat is still NEETing it up.
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>>80917494
But "exile" and "scavenger" are their jobs at that point. They had to wander the barren, shifting sands of Earth for hundreds of years, but finally fulfilled their roles in the end.
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Will Karkat ever start acting edgy? Like instead of saving Vriska from being obliterated, he just leaves her?
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is this anon that keeps self inserting on karkat and using buzzwords ever going to leave
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>>80917854
will bowmanons ever leave?
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>>80918341
uh
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>>80873614
reported
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>>80873625
It's a fat Vriska joke, it doesn't have to make sense.
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>there are people who still read homestuck
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>>80871525
It sounds like a Prequel ripoff and I think you should go make it
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>>80919177
Ain't that the truth.
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>>80871525
Shelby Cragg did it and didn't even consider it a fanadventure.
So did Ava's Demon, and Olympus Overdrive (that was a shameless homestuck ripoff in entirely different ways).

I would say that the mspa format is kind of a new medium entirely. Eventually there will be so many ripoffs that people will just consider it a genre of comic instead.

Honestly the mspa type format is better than a traditional comic format for webcomics anyway. It fully takes advantage of the fact it isn't a print comic.
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>>80864057

Act 5 Act 2 was so long, and I finished it in 2 days. It drained the life out of me. And then I click to Act 6 Act 1 to see ANOTHER fucking restart. We just had Act 5 Act 1 spend the entire section on developing the trolls while ignoring our four main characters, and now we get to see it happen again. And by this point there is so much BS concerning time, dream selves, different planets, etc.

I heard Act 6 only gets worse as it progresses, but so far it's just tiring.
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>>80919466
It does get better before it gets way worse
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>>80919466
Don't you worry, Anon, it'll get better :)
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>>80919466
Act 6 Act to midway through Act 6 Act 3 are pretty boring. Then there's some cool stuff, and another intermission which you might like or you might really hate, but it's got a walkaround game in it.
There's a short subact and then a pretty entertaining intermission.
Act 6 Act 5 starts dull but gets good towards the end. After that actual shit starts happening for most of Act 6 Act 6, and for the most part it's pretty entertaining.
Then comes Act Act 6 Intermission 5, which is incredibly boring, and 500 pages long. You just have to get through it.
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>>80919466
Maybe you'll be glad to hear there's less time nonsense from here on out. Except it's replaced with... other things. You'll see.
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>>80919606
>glad to hear there's less time nonsense
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>>80919622
Right, if they didn't secretly enjoy it it's a wonder they got this far.
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>>80919466
If you didn't like Act 5 Act 2, maybe Homestuck isn't really your thing. That's the best part and Act 6 is a significant downgrade from it.
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>>80919454
>I would say that the mspa format is kind of a new medium entirely. Eventually there will be so many ripoffs that people will just consider it a genre of comic instead.

You mean like those people who call Doom Clones 'First Person Shooters'?
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>>80919724
Yes
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>>80919454
>Olympus Overdrive
People actually cared about this comic in 2013. I saw people trying to cosplay it and everything.
It was basically like if some guy went 'what if Homestuck was like an anime and had titties and shotas?'.
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to think... somewhere out there, Hussie is finishing this dump he started taking in 2009.
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>small horns = implications of him being a manlet
>can't fight for shit
>can't compete against friendleaders like John and Tavros
>actually thinks he has a chance with the turbodyke slut Vriska
>gets cucked by chad and a stoner clown
>retcon magic happened and he is now in a forced gay relationship to appease tumblr

Why does Hussie hate Cancer Men so much? Same with Aquarius Men.
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>>80915858
>>80915934
The difference between Karkat and Tavros is sorta fascinating.

Karkat wants to be important and respected, but he lets his leadership failure and self-image issues ensnare him. He becomes aimless and overemotional to the point of turning a blind eye to the outside world. He talks at length about his feelings and gets a lot of screentime. In the end, he's still the one we empathize with (it's common to become miserable due to your insecurities, or feel like it could happen to you). He's, sadly, extremely static, but he's the one we write fic and character analyses about.

Tavros has few ambitions. He wants friends, games, working legs. His problems have a name: it is Vriska, not himself, who breaks his spirit and shoves him into the background. His "confidence issue" is something she either caused or blew out of proportion, if it even exists. The real issue is how little leeway he has, faced with a relentless bully with a long, long list of advantage. He can never hope to confront her directly, and as long as she wants him to stay, he can't leave. Which is unfortunate, since Vriska somehow manages to find and abuse him even in death, even in front of friends, and get away with it.
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>>80920788
(cont.)

Karkat sets ridiculously high standards for himself. After Murderstuck, he knows he can't hope to meet them. But he sees everyone else around him as indubitably superior (and that's understandable, since the rest of the meteor crew is competent and/or superpowered). And because of that, he doesn't reconsider his standards. Instead, he resigns under the weight of his inferiority complex. Despite how much he offloads when talking to his friends, he never questions anything about himself, besides his talents for friendleadership. He has very few excuses (besides brainwrong). And his relationship with Dave in this timeline certainly isn't helping, considering how demotivated, unheroic and unworthy Dave feels.

Tavros bends, but doesn't break. He never changes himself for Vriska. He keeps acting on his ideas (even though they're often the kind of inane shit only Vriska would get away with). And eventually, he seizes the opportunity to leave. Better yet, he recovers far away from her, and then proceeds to rub the power of friendship in her face. This kind of ordinary badassery is admirable. But there is a massive amount of time and pages between his short appearances, and he's rarely the focus. Not to mention he never says a word about his experiences or the way he feels, and his friendships are informed and quickly forgotten, rather than shown and remembered, so his inner workings are extremely obscure. Pieces in which Tavros is a (or THE) main focus are rare, and in my opinion, that's a shame.

Hopefully both of them will get satisfying ends to their character arcs by the time the comic finishes.
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>>80920788
>>80920802
Imagine if Vriska bullied Karkat instead of Tavros.

>Tavros becomes a fully-realized Knight of Breath
>Karkat is just a simple Page of Blood
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>>80920802
I wonder if Hussie spent all his time animating that Tavros dance while doing the art for A6A6I5 and then rushed all the other panels.
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>>80915039
Eq doesn't need to train he already is too goddamn strong. John can at least still hold things and/or people, Eq just brakes everything, including legendary weapons. Not to mention that when Eq actually throws a punch there be mushroom clouds and shit. Caliborn is still one piece so...
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Will we see Dave's eyes (actually attached to his head not, a close up) before Homestuck ends?
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>>80921278
when he dies
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sorry nepeta, I just pir8'd your bf
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>>80921693
>implying vriskat could ever be red
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Once it's over


What is there to do?
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>>80922010
The only thing left will be to sit down and get ready for the launch of Homestuck 2.0
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how are you supposed to say Aradia's name?

a raa dia?
or
a ray dia?
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Is this lewd?
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>>80922364
First one according to Hussie.
But he didn't even name them so how would he know?
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>>80864057
That panel is probably one of the only ones in Homestuck where Hussie looked up an anatomy reference.
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>>80922405
no but it's FOREBODEN
I was doing okay with the 'not posting "lewd" meowrails' thing but I might have to reconsider
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>>80921693
>Vriskatcucks editing a perfectly good Vriska/Sollux pic to fit their manlet husbando

disgusting
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NEVER EVER
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>>80922892
Oh shit, really? I thought it was just an edited anime pic.
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>>80922922
rip in pip
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When Homestuck 2.0 comes out, do you think that Hussie'll be able to fix the flaws that plagued the latter portion of the original, or do you think that it'll just be Act 6: The Movie?
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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