/swr/ - Star Wars: Rebels

>>78398925
>Fucking gored in the stomach
Damn

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>>78398613
Here's a Guide I made.

Protip: It's not called EU anymore, just Canon/Legends.

Recommendations:

First and foremost, the Cartoons. TCW came directly from George, and Rebels is brought to us from Dave Filoni, who Lucas has called his IRL Padawan.

They heavily expand on the characters and worlds established in the movies, that didn't get enough attention. Especially TCW.

Then Comics. Thankfully, we are literally less than 1 year into the Comics, so there isn't much at all to catch up on. You could probably read it all in a few hours.

If you want recommendations however, then Vader/Kanan/Star Wars are ongoing and are probably the most important.

Son of Dathomir gives us a little tease of what happened to Maul after TCW (but still leaves it very open ended, so dont go in expecting a climactic end to his story)

Shattered Empire connects Episode 6, the Uprising game, and Aftermath, all together, and gives some small nods and connections to TFA.

And then books.

Lost Stars is high up in everyone's recommendation list. It essentially retells the OT from the perspective of some Imperials and Rebels, and climaxes with the Battle of Jakku, explaining why its a junkyard in Episode 7.

Lords of the Sith gives some much appreciated expansion on Vader and Sheev, as well as more from Cham Syndulla, a character from TCW, and Hera Syndulla's father. A New Dawn is a good book to start with too, as it is a prequel to Rebels, as well as an expansion on the outcomes of the Kanan comic.

Dark Disciple is an important book to read once you finish TCW. It's the first book to include some pretty major events occurring to some fairly big characters, and proved that Lucasfilm arent just saving all the big things for the movies.

Ask away if you have any questions.

>>78398965
>shilling this hard
Disney plz go

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Best girl

>>78398980
Hey man, if I was payed to do this, I'd love it. I'm just simply trying to help people out.

>>78399003
So then stop posting cancer?

>>78399003
Disregard him, he is of simple mind.

>>78398982
She's pretty good.

>>78398982
Too bad she's dead, like all the things we ever loved.

Insider 162?

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>>78398678

>Platinum will never make a Star Wars game

Why live?

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>>78399080
>we'll never get to play Free Radical's Battlefront 3

>>78396360
>>78396135
“There was something really beautiful about the prequels.” - Rianny 'Jar Jar' Johnson

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>>78399015
>Things I like were made non-canon
>Anything pointing this out is cancer
Flawless logic.

>>78398982
10/10 would fill the background with her model.

>>78399128
>Flawless logic.
Now you're getting it.

Anyone have scans of the Art book, specifically Stormtrooper and Knights of Ren concept art?

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>tfw Kylo has better hair than you

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>>78399180
It's okay, Anon. He has better hair than all of us.

>tfw you will never stroke his lucious mane

>>78399180
>use all the hair products
>comb your hair everyday
>be fingerbanged by hair stylists every month
>some fag who wears a helmet 24/7 still has better hair than you


being a woman is suffering

>>78399228
YAVIN 4
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>>78399118
Dude has a point. Whatever else George delivered on a captivating vision, an impressive diorama of the galaxy pre-Empire in which to encapsulate a story that was sadly lacking until TCWs helped patch it back together and fill it out.

It also pushed the boundaries of what was technically possible on the screen and created a revolution in effects technology that dominated the decade to come.

TFA, sadly, did neither. But it delivered on a story that people enjoyed, however much the plot points were surgically lifted from ANH. It's flawed yet serviceable. Let's hope they can keep going in a good direction.

>>78399228
>>78399220
>>78399180

THE JEDI BETRAYED ME WHEN THEY STOLE MY CONDITIONER.

I had to do it. I had to do it Father, don't you see? It is a son's duty to have a better mane than his father. Those...those Jedi my Uncle was training. They took my conditioner and filled it with blue milk. I HAD TO DO IT.

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>>78399228
>using hair products
>not having naturally volumous and wavy hair Stay mad

>>78399287
>Father, I had to do it
>I tried... I tried so hard to supress my feelings. like a normal Jedi. Like a good Jedi
>But they... They poured flour on me! while I was in the shower!
>I HAD TO DO IT

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>>78398965
>mfw you haven't made any of my changes yet

just kidding, keep up the work. you're the best of all the namefags

>>78399341
I promise I havent forgotten, s'just I had a rough day and I havent been able to sleep since like 30 hours ago.

A-And thanks, y-you too.

>>78399316
S-should I write a smut-fic of Kylo Ren x General Hux - after Snoke compliments Ren on his fabulous locks?

>>78399359
No

>>78399359
Yeah, why are you asking? You'd know some of here would like it.

Anons, I have the latest Rebels UK comic.
https://mega.nz/#!5FYVxY4K

>>78398925
God damn it who the fuck came up with Savage Opress? SW has some dumb names but Savage Opress takes the fucking cake.

>>78399359
It already exists

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>Episode VIII or IX
>Kylo's been reformed
>saying his goodbyes to Leia to go fight Snoke
>yfw the pottery "I love you. I know" scene comes from that

>>78399359
Lemme pitch you some ideas:

>Phasma comes onto Ren first after catching a rare glimpse of him sans helmet
>Kylo rejects her advances in disgust, Hux observes from a distance
>As Kylo storms away, Hux makes a snide remark concerning his girlish features
>Ren grabs him by the collar and throws him into his quarters to confront Hux, but Hux overpowers him

And then gay things happen.

>>78399447
Don't be a Sleazebaggano, anon.

>>78399467
I might actually walk out of the theater.

>>78399467
>implying it won't be to Rey

So here's a thing I've been meaning to talk to you guys about since last week when I saw the movie.

For the people that like Kylo Ren, one of the reasons why people like him is because we never had a villain that struggled with their dark and light side.

But isn't that Anakin's (and to some extent Luke's) journey? We especially see this in Anakin during RotS after he joins Palpatine, and later in Vader during ESB and RotJ.

Luke also displays this during RotJ with him finally embracing the light side after his duel but he was a hero so he doesn't count I guess.

So what gives?

>>78399359
No. Stop it. Kylo Ren needs a qt gf to save him, he isn't gay.

>>78399514
Nay
Kylo is top tier fuckboy material

>>78399514
Hux will wear a dress. A chrome dress. And Kylo Ren will call him Phasma. Totally not gay this way.

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>>78399514
>he isn't gay

Dude, c'mon.

Look at him.

If that isn't the face of the man who would take a Gundark cock to the hilt and then kindly ask for more, I don't know what is.

>>78399497
Kylo Ren struggles with it in a very different way. The actor is also much stronger. He's more human, more intense, and you really feel his conflict.

>>78399159
Rude

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>>78399581
>I heard that in his voice

>>78399374
>>78399466
>>78399469

I was thinking something following the concept of Kylo's FABULOUS hair being a huge key to his dark side...and his sensitive side.

I don't think he is gay, but most measurably a bi-sexual fuck boi.

General Hux might seek to one-up him, ending in a "YOU ARE NOT FABULOUS AS I!"

>>78399497
People like him because his initial turn to the Dark Side was not shown.

>>78399624
Clearly you're taking this less seriously than I am.

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I have failed you CIA

>>78399581
>you really feel his conflict.

I sure as fuck didn't.

He never did any good deeds so I don't buy into the shit that he was conflicted. The movie just tells not shows.

>>78399581
I honestly don't think they handle it that much different. Driver is a good actor, but like Hayden he pretty much does the same thing where he either gets really angry and shouts or does the "stare"

Even when he kills Han he does a the same thing Anakin does after he helps kill Windu, but in a more calmer way.

>>78399637
So like Vader back in 77? Again I'm not really seeing how he's so much different than any other character we had before.

>>78399581
You were a mascara wearing motherfucker in high school, weren't you?

>>78399670
People are liking him because he's new and so dark and so conflicted, despite the movie utterly failing to sell it. Fucking blinders.

I want to call tumblr but even older fans are falling for this shit.

>>78399670
He's more human than Vader was in ANH.

>>78399670
He is alive, for one.

>>78399497
Adam Driver is more charming than Hayden Christenson. That's it.

>>78398965
Anything about Kylo Ren a.k.a Dork Vader? I was just surprised at how much I liked his character, I like gotta know everything

>>78399643
I mean, it's not like Vader did any good deeds. But his conflict was entirely different.

>>78399638
Comedy pornfic is fun

>>78398925
Wait, Adi appeared in Clone Wars?

Adi was killed in clone wars?

Apparently I stopped watching at the wrong time. What's the name of the episode?

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Who knew that just getting some of the best actors of their generation (Driver and Isaac) helps pull off weakly written characters

>>78399736
I'll have you know that I take jerking off very seriously.

What happened to the old mega link for the books?

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>tfw about to see the movie with my friend in 6 days so I've gotten all the best arcs of TCW prepared to watch along with all the movies with him
I'm fucking hyped. Also rate this list of episodes. Keep in mind I already watched every episode of TCW with him last year so it's not like we're missing out on anything.

>Cat and Mouse
>The Hidden Enemy
>TCW Movie
>Clone Cadets
>Supply Lines
>Rookies
>Ryloth Arc
>Geonosis Arc
>Deathwatch Arc
>Death Trap Arc
>ARC Troopers
>Heroes on Both Sides
>Nightsisters Arc
>Mortis Arc
>Citadel Arc
>Umbara Arc
>Kadavo Arc
>A Friend in Need
>Deception Arc
>Return of Maul Arc
>Onderon Arc
>Maul's Empire Arc
>Ashoka Framed Arc
>Order 66 Arc
>The Force Arc (the last arc where Yoda goes around dicking with the force)

>>78399359
http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Hux*s*Kylo%20Ren/works
>only 48 works
There needs to be more dammit!

>>78399716
Nope, he was kept pretty much entirely a secret for TFA.

Next year there are two books (Aftermath: Life Debt & New Republic: Bloodlines) which may include Kylo stuff. It's still uncertain at this point though.

>>78399747
That is Season 5, Episode 1, I believe.

You should really pick the show back up, it got really damn good. I notice a lot of people falling off around Season 2 or 3, and its a real shame because that is where the show really starts to pick up.

>>78399670
If you don't get it, you don't get it. But that is reflection on your understanding of the character and how he is portrayed. He is nicely fleshed out (especially for being in only one film) and was extremely compelling to watch. I was always looking forward to his scenes and theres a lot more to him than just not knowing which side he's on.

>>78399359
>not kylo x rey

I mean, come on

>>78399749
Driver, maybe. But Oscar got absolutely fuck all to do as Poe.

Makes me wonder why so many people love him.

>>78399732
Vader wanted his son alive so they could rule together. He chose to save his son at the last minute, he couldn't watch his son die

Ren supposedly wallows in conflict but never does anything concrete to show it

>>78399772
http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Kylo%20Ren*s*Rey/works
>72 works
Huxlo needs more love

Need to introduce my family to the clone wars show.

easiest way would be to show them cool webms of scenes, so share with me your favourite clone wars webms

I want to see a coldblooded Kylo wrecking Rey

>>78399782

That's what I'm saying, he made such an impression with such little time

>>78399767

>Cat and Mouse
>The Hidden Enemy
Dont remember these in particular. I think they were Padmé episodes? Oh, actually I remember The Hidden Enemy. That was 7/10

>TCW Movie
5/10

>Clone Cadets
>Supply Lines
>Rookies
8/10

>Ryloth Arc
8/10

>Geonosis Arc
8/10

>Deathwatch Arc
7/10

>Death Trap Arc
What?

>ARC Troopers
I don't remember this.

>Heroes on Both Sides
Or this.

>Nightsisters Arc
7/10

>Mortis Arc
7/10

>Citadel Arc
7/10

>Umbara Arc
10/10

>Kadavo Arc
I don't remember.

>A Friend in Need
10/10

>Deception Arc
8/10

>Return of Maul Arc
6/10

>Onderon Arc
7/10

>Maul's Empire Arc
>Ashoka Framed Arc
>Order 66 Arc
All of these are 11/10, GOAT Star Wars stories.

>The Force Arc (the last arc where Yoda goes around dicking with the force)
9/10

>>78399806
>kylo 'fuccboi' ren
>coldblooded

lol

>>78399701
So like Anakin at the end of his life? I mean it doesn't get more human than your mom's death sending you over the edge and fearing the same thing would happen to your wife and kid.

I honestly don't see what's so human about Kylo other than grandaddy and daddy issues.

>>78399709
How is he more charming? That's like a trait he did not show at all in the movie.

>>78399797
Show them this if some light spoilers aren't a problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06S3f_dGPdY

I assume they know Maul returns anyways. Just about everyone does.

>>78399341
>that spoiler
What am I, chopped liver?

>>78399411
You forgot to give us the decryption key, dummy.

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>>78399469
>And then gay things happen.

You have such a way with words anon

>>78399837
>How is he more charming? That's like a trait he did not show at all in the movie.
Really? A lot of women found him very endearing in a 'fuccboi i dated in high school' way.

To be a fuccboi, you must have charm.

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>>78399792
>You've felt it, haven't you? by kylofucker

>>78399819
DON'T BULLY KYLO

>>78399792
Dang, fans are on top of their shit. Now to find a good one

>>78399853
If we're going by what women liked then Hayden has Driver beat any day of the week. Like are you blind anon?

>>78399853
If he sparkled he could be a vampire.

>>78399837
The character has a sense of humor, and you clearly missed it (like everything else about the character) but he has a bit of Han Solo's swagger. You should have paid more attention the the way he talks and the sort of things he says, not all of it is GRRRR SO EVIL AND ANGRY

>>78399889
Hayden was just a taaaaaaaaaaad too creepy. Ewan was the game at the time.

>>78399896
Okay give me some lines and things he did like Han?

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>>78399889
The times they are a changin'

>>78399907
He might have been creepy, but you can't denied he had pussy after him.

That's not to knock down Ewan of course.

>>78399865
>It took Rey a bit of time for her to become adjusted to the thickness of Kylo's cock, feeling the tip prod at her cervix. Rey could feel him squirm beneath her, his eyes focused intensely on her. He wasn’t looking into her eyes in another futile attempt to intimidate her, but rather had his eyes focused on her body. The lower half of it, to be exact. He still wasn’t sure of what to make of it. None of this was making sense to him.

>>78399917
He definitely is still more handsome than Driver though, you're kidding yourself if you don't believe that.

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>>78399907
Come on, Padme, don't be like that. Does this look like the face of a man on the verge of murder?

>>78399910
>So true.
>A droid stole a freighter???
>Those dry interrogation scenes

>>78399936
Driver just has a very odd face

>>78399936
Unlike you I don't sit around thinking about whether men are handsome or not. That's gay, dude.

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>>78398925

Darth Maul having a brother with the dumbest name ever is almost worth it for that headbutt

>>78399865
>>78399933
>“You will have sex with me, but you will not cum. You are not allowed to cum,”

>Kylo’s response was as expected. “I will have sex with you, but I will not cum. I am not allowed to cum,”

goddammit not my rape fetish

>>78399936
Driver has an odd face so he has to put points into Charm.

>>78399782
He's charming as fuck, smug as hell and didn't spend too long to get dull.

He's the new idolized Boba Fett.

>>78399960
Lol
Implying I'm a guy
>>78399952
That's not a good defense

>>78399947
I honestly don't know how the so true and interrogation scenes are like Han.

The Droid part reminded me more of Vader though than Han, but I'll give it to you.

>>78399970
>“I’m not, I’m not at all!” he was full-on sobbing, arms covering his face. Rey wasn’t going to have that, and she grabbed his forearms, forcing them down with all her strength. It didn’t take much, seeing as Kylo was at his most vulnerable.

>He didn’t resist, but he continued to cry, his entire body heaving with fear and pain.

>“Remember what I said,” Rey murmured through grunts. She was close to orgasm. “You’re not getting anything out of this,”

>Kylo was crying so hard that he nearly forgot he was being fucked by someone he hated. She was the one that mutilated his face. She was the one that refused to succumb to his power. He was so emotionally distraught that he had no option but to wait for her to finish.

>Rey had never seen Kylo cry so much. Well, she had never seen him cry, period. It was amusing to see someone who came off as so strong and intimidating act so… immature.

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real close to writing girls fanfic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhgcOhAwxws

Gwen is so fucking cute.

>of course it was in attack of the clones

Damn Poe be throwing some shade

>>78399581
>The actor is also much stronger.

The actor does not act. At fucking all. His voice conveys more when modulated by the mask, and his expression is perma-locked.

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I got a little Christmas treat for the Star Wars general...

(1977) Star Wars and Other Galactic Funk – 128 kbps MP3
(1978) Star Wars Holiday Special – 128 kbps MP3
(1980) Christmas in the Stars - 256 kbps MP3
(1997) Star Wars Unplugged – for some reason the kbps varies from track to track. MP3
(1999) Cocktails in the Cantina – 160 kbps MP3
Shadows of the Empire – 128 kbps MP3
This one is a fan compiled and edited version with 28 tracks. Two word docs are included, yet frustratingly the man's name and contact info is absent.
https://mega.nz/#F!54pymIBZ!nG_SyjwMpgsTHrx3-gx_6g

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So correct me if I'm wrong but is this basically what happened in Episode 3?
>Palpatine sets Anakin up to think the Jedi don't trust him when they don't approve of his push for Anakin to join the council
>Palpatine sets it up that the Jedi will attack him
>he makes that attack appear as treason to Anakin with the excuse that they didn't tell Anakin because they didn't trust him
>part of this treason would be the Jedi destroying the senate (and killing Padme
>this sets Anakin (and the galaxy) on full 'fuck the Jedi' mode
>he then makes himself Emperor but keeps the senate because at the time Padme was still alive (Anakin would be pissed if he shafted Padme) also to make the shift from Republic to Empire less dramatic and jarring for the galaxy. Basically does what he did in 2 where he gets emergency powers to form the clone army, he gets emergency powers to do whatever he likes, but will have a senate to vote on things that he can then make an informed decision on based on what the galaxy wants done. Eliminates the problem with the old senate where they work when they work, and when they don't work he does what is needed anyways so the govt is better functioning than the Republic
>his whole selling point is 'the Jedi set up this was (Sifo Dyas making the clone army, Dooku creating the Seperatists) so they could take over the Republic, but we just barely avoided that so give me the power to really crack down on this bullshit war so we can have peace
>this is why the Rebellion is so hard to start up, because nobody sees it as legitimate after the official story of the Jedi treason didn't work out, and people think it's a Rebellion based on Jedi manipulation in the Clone Wars (which now that I think about it, I hope this makes people see the Galactic Civil War as concerning due to Luke's involvement, could be one of the reasons he became so sad, because nobody even trusts the Jedi after the Clone Wars)

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>>78399994

>>78400047
Also sorry for all the fuck ups with grammar and whatnot in that post, it's really late right now.

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>>78399817
ARC Troopers was the 3rd Domino Squad episode. It was about the defense of Kamino.

>>78400047
basically yeah

>>78399817
Death Trap are those episodes where Boba Fett is trying to kill Mace Windu. Kadovo is the arc where they go to that cat slave planet.

>>78400033
Now who is throwing whom in the trash, Boyega?

Does anyone else feel like the "I HATE YOU!!!" line in Episode 3 was placed in the wrong order? It goes like this:
>Obi-Wan: "Not leave it in darkness!"
>Anakin: "I HATE YOU!!!"
>Obi-Wan: "You were my brother Anakin. I loved you"
When it should go like this:
>Obi-Wan: "Not leave it in darkness!"
>Obi-Wan: "You were my brother Anakin. I loved you"
>Anakin: "I HATE YOU!!!"
The "I HATE YOU!!!" feels like it should have been a response to Obi-Wan's "I loved you."

>>78399447
>Im-gon Die

>>78400046
Oh cool I'll add it to the pastebin along with my Soundtracks MEGA

>>78399964
>>78399747
>>78399447
https://youtu.be/-dnSORl9_oI?t=6m34s

Would not be surprised if Lucas came up with it, he just seems to be 'throw ideas at the wall and see what sticks' kind of guy.

>>78399467
Oh no. Another homage to the original films. Star Wars is ruined. It's not good anymore.

>>78398925
POLL
http://strawpoll.me/6353459

POLL
http://strawpoll.me/6353459

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So, seeing how good Dark Disciple was (Besides that borderline retarded ending) What do you think would make a good book?

I personally would love to see a book that details the time between Ahsoka's departure from the Jedi and her becoming Fulcrum.

>>78400407
Comics would be better, I think.

>>78400412
Well a flashback episode would be best, but you are right, I would just like to see it.

>>78398925
>>78400398

https://youtu.be/TNXRZd5vkdo?t=20m32s

20:32

FACE ME, COUSIN

>>78399749

>weakly written

>>78399846
Ah my mistake. This should work: https://mega.nz/#!5FYVxY4K!n4YGM9GwaMYK7aiTaWhOqIxF8tXaq7guJ8Rko2gY7AM

What would you reaction be if we find out in Ep8 that Snoke is Plagueis?

Even though there is virtually no chance of this happening

>>78400583
This was already debunked

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>>78401055
I'd be mad

>>78401055
I'd love to see the confusion from the audience in my theater.

Does anyone know if they actually filmed the politcal scenes with the black girl talking to the New Republic on behalf of Leia? I'd love to see them included in the blu-ray release.

Also speaking of deleted scenes, what's with Rey pulling that lever and entering that hole that appears when she's climbing the side of the base during her escape? It feels like that was meant to lead to something, but next time we see her she's still just climbing the massive wall thing.

>>78400583
he said cruses the guy who uploaded it even confirmed it and you can even hear Kylo say say cruses again in the same tone later in the video

>>78401327
>he said cruses
What did he mean by this?

>>78401314
>Rey pulling that lever and entering that hole that appears when she's climbing the side of the base during her escape? It feels like that was meant to lead to something, but next time we see her she's still just climbing the massive wall thing.
Thought it was a passage to another room, like jefferies tubes on the Enterprise

>>78401314
>Does anyone know if they actually filmed the politcal scenes with the black girl talking to the New Republic on behalf of Leia? I'd love to see them included in the blu-ray release.
I wish there was a little bit more politics in it. The scenes with the senate were always cool as fuck. I hope we get a lot of good deleted scenes.

>>78399117
Only because they were writing checks their devs couldn't cash

>>78399767

>Gascon Arc

11/10

>>78399411
Speaking of comics, was the last issue of Chewbacca added to the files, çast time i checked it wasn't there yet

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IV > VII > V = III > VI >>>>> II > I

>>78401586
4>1>5>3>2>6>7

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>>78401586
For some reason I always stupidly smile at 'WAR!'

>>78401622

>there are heroes on both sides

>>78399497
People like Kylo Ren because he's a huge pissbaby that's fun to watch, and not cringe inducing like Anakin.

>>78401668
Yeah, that was always stupid. The Clone Wars sort of fixed this by having an episode actually called "Heroes on both sides" about the CSI's parliament that shows how it's composed of idealistic people being manipulated by Dooku, one of them being Padmé's friend.

>>78401681
b8

>>78401681
Kylo is way more cringe inducing

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>>78401668
Are you doubting the heroism of the big gay war criminal?

Kylo Ren's struggle was not bi-polar like Anakin's was.

>>78401693
Untrue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi5jjXTPtyY

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>>78398982

She truly was.

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>>78401668
Heroes in the sense of "badasses capable of great violence" like Cao Cao or Lu Bu.

>>78401715
So it's okay for Kylo to act like a child, but it's not okay for Anakin to act like a virgin teen?

Why are Jedi considered a myth? I could at least understand people not believing in the Force, but the Jedi existed during Han's lifetime, Chewie probably told him a bunch of war stories about them.

>>78399497
Anakin was built up as being some legendary chosen one badass jedi, but we never see it. All we see is a whiny brat getting smacked around by Dooku and Obi-Wan. We never see him do crazy shit that live up to his legend so we're disappointed by what we see.

With Kylo Ren, we start off seeing him catch a blaster bolt in mid-air, something that was never seen before in the movies. We know he's strong in the force and as the trilogy goes on, we know he will only become stronger.

>>78401742
Did the Emperor and Vader advertise that they were Sith? Besides them and Luke, there haven't been any Jedi for 50 years.

>>78401762
After the New Republic came back to power they probably spread the word on the Holonet News that Sheev and Vader were evil Sith.

>>78401778
I wonder if Kylo Ren being Ben Solo is public knowledge.

>>78401778
1. What makes you think Luke would tell anyone about the Sith? Even Han, his close friend, didn't know the word Sith, only the Dark Side.
2. Why would anyone believe them? To someone who isn't intimate with the knowledge of the force, Jedi and Sith are the same thing. Plus it could just be seen as some New Republic propaganda to demonize the old regime.

Are there any decent fanedits of the Prequels? I know there's a shitton of them on fanedit.org.

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>>78401746

Holy shit, you TFAfags are downright delusional.

>We never see him do crazy shit that live up to his legend so we're disappointed by what we see.

Check your eyes. In his first movie Anakin accomplshed two great feats. In his first movie Kylo failed in everything and was abjectly humiliated at least four times, despite never once facing an opponent supposed to be remotely in his weight class.

Also
>whiny brat

Pic extremely related.

>>78401980
I think he meant Ep2&3 Anakin.
Ep1 Anakin is a completly different character.

>>78398925
Damn thats too much for a kids show. What a bitch that guy was, glad Sheev killed him

>>78401715

That is honestly no more cringe inducing than just looking at Kylo's unmasked pimply face.

Besides there is a key difference between them. Anakin is a virgin teen apprentice monk sworn to celibacy who is being blatantly hit upon by a 9/10. He acts like such. Kylo is supposed to be twenty-something chief lieutenant of a wannabe Galactic tyrant, a commander of men. He acts like a child.

Guess who is a shitty character here.

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>>78399180
>tfw Hux has more luscious lips than you and Kylo has more fabulous hair
Is the First Order supposed to make me feel inadequate about my appearance?

Probably one of the best songs in star wars.
https://youtu.be/T1PT_SrME2I?t=142
starts at 2:22

>>78402026
>Ep1 Anakin is a completly different character.

No. If you pay attention, his recurring character traits are observable there already.

But even if you exclude Ep.1, one of the very first things Anakin does in Ep.2 is jumping into a miles-deep abyss full of fast-moving objects because he just Force-sensed that this will allow him to land on Zam's speeder and catch her. If that is not badass as fuck, then what is? Sure, he's is not instantly good in everything, like Rey, and succeed everywhere, like Rey, but that is because he's not a Mary Sue like Rey.

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BB-8 cartoon when?

>>78401447
He cursed Rey! Now she will turn into Sith!

>>78399749
poe was written to be the cool heroic ace rebel pilot that dies.


and then they just, didn't kill him off.

>>78401622

>THE MARCH OF WAR!

(read in movietone news voice)

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>>78402180
Have there ever in any star wars medium, canon or not been a more qt droid than bb-8? He is adorable.

>>78401742
My guess is that the Empire spent twenty years destroying or locking away every evidence proving the Jedi's existence. And in the current run of Star Wars comics, we see a Hutt crimelord who's a Jedi fanboy and collects every artefact (lightsabers, holocrons...) he can put his hand on, which is apparently illegal.

Luke's failed tentative to recreate the Jedi order must not have been enough to counter the Empire's still vivid propaganda.

Doesn't explain why a guy like Han Solo, who traveled to a bunch of planets, doesn't think they were real, especially when his best buddy fought alongside them in the Clone War.

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Dark Greetings, Ray.

>>78402237
Fembots but they're gross

>>78402180
R2 BTFO

>>78402180
>>78402237
While BB-8 is a sympathetic and cute droid, I'm still bothered by its design. It's an astromech but I can't picture it on the hull of a flying ship under the enemy's fire like R2-D2 did in the Ep. 1.

>>78398925
>not even a holiday-themed general
Gay.

>>78402332
Magnets

>>78402180
Droids: The next-generation ?

>>78402342
Next thread

>>78402349
Probably, but it still had a lot trouble when Rey started barrel rolling with the Millenium Falcon.

>>78402349
How do they work?

>>78402379
In the end he used hooks.
Come to think of it, it wouldn't be wise to use him to repair anything in space. No jet engines in case of emergency and small reach.

>>78402180
>we want the sonic audience

>>78402122
>jumping into a miles-deep abyss full of fast-moving objects because he just Force-sensed that this will allow him to land on Zam's speeder and catch her.
That sounds pretty mary sueish wouldn't that rip his arms off?

>>78399541
>im cold
>my feet hurt
>ill never be as cool as darth vader

>>78402517
By the start of Ep2, he's been training under the best masters for what...5+ years?

>>78401715
One is 30. The other was 19.

>>78402222
>and then they just, didn't kill him off.

He was originally written to die but he had too much potential as a main character.

>>78401726

Kylo had the heritage to deserve it.

Anakin: the puberty years wasn't what anyone wanted to see.

>>78399947
>So true.
It's "You're so right" you pleb!

>>78401055
"Who the fuck is Plagueis" said the audience

>>78399447
Yeah, Savage Opress is a fucking terrible name. But I'm not sure if it's the worst. I looked up the Death Star novel on wikipedia because some dude on /v/ had recommended it and found this gem:
>Celot Ratua Dil: convicted smuggler, caught up in a pirate round-up and was convicted to life on the prison planet Despayre. He escaped to the Death Star and hid there under the alias Teh Roxxor.
I swear to God I'm not making this up.

>>78402708
>Teh Roxxor.
Oh my god

I don't understand why people keep saying Rey is a Mary Sue, she unlocked her powers when she touched the lighsaber and besides she was capture by Kylo so she wasn't all perfect.

>>78402736
People just look for things to complain about. Welcome to the internet.

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>tfw you will never pin Hux under you and fuck him 'til he screams
It's gonna be a lonely holiday

>>78399709
>Adam Driver's dialogue isn't written by George Lucas and he doesn't have a love interest vital to his story who he has no on-screen chemistry with
Fixed that for you.

>>78402708

The EU is full of gems like that, especially among the Jedi and Sith. Darth Scabrous and Master Baytes for example.

>>78403056
I do think she's gonna make a saber like that but not red obviously.

>>78403064
>>78403056
Things that will never happen hopefully

>>78402987
Well Baytes was a fuck you to one of the editors if I recall.

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>2ABY
>Trusting the Force

>>78403064
Beard seems like a good idea for Kylo

>>78403056
People need to stop wanting Darth Rey to be a thing.

>>78403064
>That Luke in the background like "where am I?"

How bad was Kylo wounded?

>>78402736
>I don't understand why people keep saying Rey is a Mary Sue

Because she fits every definiton of Mary Sue in existence, including "a fanfic character introduced for the purpose of overshadowing the original cast".

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>tfw revan will never be canon
>tfw you will never get a cool revan vidya game
>tfw you will never save the galaxy again as revan
>tfw

>>78401622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpWmlRNfLck

>>78403243
We saw what a bowcaster shot does to a regular guy so Ren just tanked the one shot at him. So there's probably a good clean hole in him right nwo

>>78403274
He'll be recanonised evebtually.
Whether its shit or not is the question

>>78401622
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztZI2aLQ9Sw

>>78402813
Quit trying to make me gay /swg/, please.

>Jar Jar wasn't meant for you, he was meant for the kids. Kids like that

Okay, ignoring that I was literally 9 when TPM came out and didn't like Jar Jar at all. Can you name a single kids movie that was considered great and has a comic relief character stepping in literal shit?

>>78403064
He would ditch that relic and build a proper lightsaber

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Comic series about her and her castle when?

>>78403203
>stop wanting Darth Rey

But she's sexy

>>78403303
He'll be a shitty antagonist in a terrible one shot film with a goofy name that Disney swears up and down is a original character.

It's now officially confirmed that Rey is Luke's daughter.
http://www.theladbible.com/articles/disney-just-accidentally-dropped-an-absolutely-massive-star-wars-spoiler

>>78403402
It actually might be a word he says that sound similar. Either way, i guess it's probably true regardless.

>>78403402
No you fuck. We've been over this. He's saying curses. The barrel just explodes over him after the line. If you had any cursory knowledge of video games, anybody would be able to tell. The fact that no other gameplay videos of Infinity besides that one have come out yet to easily disprove this is really grinding my gears.

>>78403402
This was already confirmed (in this very thread, even) to be false. He said "curses!"

>>78403402
Fucking knew it. I'am glad she is his daughter. That explains why she is so Op

Piss off a Star Wars fan in as few words as possible.

Does nobody else have this game so that this can easily be proven to just be two lines close together? For fucks sake

>>78403520
Boba Fett sucks

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>>78403520
I don't hate the prequels
but that's true for me

>>78403520
This is a good way to do it
The Prequels were fun and I enjoyed them.

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>>78403618
>>78403611
>17 seconds
Outstanding

>>78403520
JJ Abrams

>>78403520
midichlorians

>>78403520
The EU was never good.

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>hyped up as the most badass badass of all badasses
>literally /r9k/

>>78403639
After being in this General for years, this is one of the things I know that will start a 200+ argument the fastest.

>>78403673
He even had a shitty weeb sword that he didn't even know how to use and prayed to his collectables.

>>78403673
I remember him hyped up as a Vader fanboy

And we definitely got that

>>78403673
That made him better
Also we now have based Riot Trooper and his giant cattle prod

>>78403102

It was, Still fucking funny though.

>>78403687
>weeb sword
Asian swords don't usually have crossguards. If anybody in Star Wars has a "weeb sword", it's Count Dooku.

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Will Finn be able to lead his fellow storm troopers brethren up in rebellion against their abusive Imperial leaders?

>>78403687
>he didn't even know how to use
You're a retard.

>>78403520
Boba Fett is a mando.

Why was Disney so secretive about The Force Awakens when so much of the plot was incredibly predictable?

I don't know why they were so hush-hush about Finn being a Stormtrooper and that his real name was FN-2187 - why did they have to keep that a secret? I remember them making a big deal about how they wouldn't give him a last name.

>>78403673
He was comedy gold

>>78403723
>no accusing finger
One job

>>78403894
>when so much of the plot was incredibly predictable
That's your reason. If they let loose any more details, people would have figured out it was a remake of A New Hope before it actually came out.

>>78403894
Not everyone follows SW as hard as we do

>>78403894
Because most people are stupid and their extent of interest stops at the films. 99% of the "fans" are casual at best and the idea that Han and Leia's son is an evil villain is "groundbreaking and revolutionary" to them.

>>78403717
Dooku's saber literally has a French grip.

>>78403717
Your standard lightsaber is more akin to Japanese swordplay than anything. Dooku and Ren both have European styling than anything.

>>78403894
Unlike us nerds, the majority of people out there don't actually follow news nor do they scrutinize every piece of dialogue and scene to make akin to something else. The only thing normal people look at is the trailers

You think any normal people out there remembers who Plageius even is or intentionally listens to music cues to figure out if x is the same as y?

In comparison to The Force Awakens, how well do you think Rogue One is gonna do at the box office?

>>78403997
>99% of the "fans" are casual at best
Apparently this is bad

>>78404110
About a quarter of TFA Thursday night sales, total.

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>>78404116
Yes, casuals aren't as sophisticated as us patricians.

>>78404110
Not as well, probably. Still good since it's Star Wars.

>>78404110
At least as well as Thor.

>>78404110
Better than Star Trek Beyond, that's for sure.

>>78404110
Probably like Marvel shlock that's not Avengers (Thor, Ant-man, etc)
Not well.

>>78404116
>Apparently this is bad

It is when you've relied on your hardcore fans to keep the brand alive for nearly two decades before "rewarding" them with four shitty films.

>>78404167
SABOTAAAAAGE

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>>78404189
>It is when you've relied on your hardcore fans to keep the brand alive for nearly two decades before "rewarding" them with four shitty films.

>>78404187
>hor, Ant-man, etc)
>Not well.
In what world were either of those box offices considered "not well"?

>>78404189
Oh no, anon, the Thrawn Trilogy was the only thing responsible for keeping Star Wars alive, I just know!

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>>78403332
>on /co/
>not gay

>>78404254
Not well in relation to TFA's box office, I forgot to add.

>>78404189
>He thinks Star Wars is alive solely because of "hardcore fans"

Dude

Also, you seriously think the SW franchise of all things is something that should only be targeted toward hardcore fans?

>>78404281
Oh, yeah, that makes more sense

>>78404255
It kind of was. Before the Thrawn Trilogy people just assumed Star Wars was over. Without the Thrawn trilogy kickstarting the EU the bad reception of the prequels would have probably ended Star Wars. I'm a new canon fag and even I understand that just because the EU isn't canon doesn't mean it wasn't extremely important to Star Wars.

I'm not even a Legendsfag, but the most disappointing part of Force Awakens was basically how it was a Cliffnotes adaption of the old EU.

I mean, I enjoyed it, it wasn't bad.

But we've seen Han's son turn evil. We've seen the Deathier Star. We've seen a bunch of badasses that were revealed to just be Vader fanboys.

Being a remake of Episode 4 aside, we've seen all of this stuff before. I'm not even sure how the series can go forward without retreading the EU.

>>78404316
How many regular people do you know that actually read the Thrawn trilogy?

Or anything other than the movies and maybe the cartoon?

>>78403997
True, those silly, mindless proles probably wouldn't even be able to recite the history of the Republic and don't even live their lives in accordance with the Jedi code.

>>78404343
Because 99% of people don't know/have read any of those things. Certainly not the kids

>>78402736
I felt like everything was set up in the movie with planing and pay off
1. As a scavenger she knew the insides of ships including star destroyers
2. Maz konada's eyes closing feel the force speech. Personally, I feel this is the true nature of the force, less than what we were shown in the prequels
3. We see her kick some ass on jakku with the stick, and she spends most of ren's fight running away

>>78404274
/swg/ made me gay, and I love it.

>>78404348
Everyone when it came out. The Thrawn Trilogy was fucking huge back in the 90s. Also the EU was fucking huuuuge in the 2000's. Almost everyone was consuming some comic/game/book/etc from it during the prequel era.

Do you guys seriously not remember this? Did you just get into Star Wars last year or something? There's a reason why Star Wars is considered one of the biggest multimedia franchises of all time.

>>78404363
I know. And I'm excited to see where the story goes. I'm invested in Rey's, Finn's, and even Kylo's stories.

I just have yet to see anything new.

The new film just felt like an adaption in the sense of Marvel, a story made from an accumulation of decades worth of stories.

>>78404383
Rey was a Mary Sue, but just nowhere near as bad as Anakin, which is why I think people give her a pass.

Hopefully she'll become a more developed character in the next films without having to rely on a cartoon/comics like we did with Anakin.

>>78403520
Heard this yesterday from one of my friends "I thought Attack of the Clones was the best, and I thought Anakin's rise and fall, and his love story were handled perfectly"

I think I did have a stroke

>>78404390
I know all that. And all of that is from the hardcore fanbase but I really doubt everybody who went to see TFA, hell, I doubt everybody who made up RotS' box office had read it.

>>78404283
Where did I say that? Like honestly, where?

>>78404428
I forgot how much of a Mary Sue Anakin was.

I guess I had just replaced the memories of whinny prequel Anakin with authoritive Clone Wars Anakin in my mind?

>>78404281
>Not well in relation to TFA's box office
So ... every movie but Avatar and Titanic?

>>78404428
>Anakin
>Mary Sue
whaat? If only in TPM, then yes.

>>78404434
This is almost verbatim a line from Elliot Rodger's manifesto.

I'm not kidding.

>>78404456
>I guess I had just replaced the memories of whinny prequel Anakin with authoritive Clone Wars Anakin
Who hasn't done that. I fully believe kiddies who grew up with TCW on CN watch Anakin in that and then watched the PT before TFA and are like "what the fuck"?

>>78404390
Dude, most of these kids don't remember 9/11, much less what it was like ten years before that.

They'll never know what it was like back then.

>>78404457
TFA won't beat based Cameron anyway desu

>>78404468
I could argue for AotC Anakin, but he wasn't really a Mary Sue more than a shitty character. At least Rey is enjoyable. Prequel Anakin was just a school shooter.

Still, the only legitimately good TFA characters were Han and Finn. We didn't get much of Poe.

>>78399467
I still think Kylo will end up being the "Prince Zuko" of the trilogy.

>>78404449
Your implication that the franchise has solely relied on the hardcore fans for its longevity when that couldn't be farther from the truth.

Also, implying that there are 4 shitty movies instead of 2 shitty movies, 1 less shitty one and 1 good one.

>>78404493
>hating Kylo
CURSES

>>78404493
>We didn't get much of Poe.
Just because we didn't get a lot of him doesn't make him a bad character. Every scene he was in was gold. Also Chewie was great too.

And I really liked Kylo. I know people have beef with him but of all the characters' future development I want to see, his I'm the most interested in

>>78399497
He's a better Anakin basically. He also has the advantage of not being directed by Lucas, which Hayden Christensen didn't have

>>78404507
Except the only reason Lucas even went back to Star Wars was because the popularity of the comics and novels convinced him people were still interested in Star Wars.

The only reason we're even talking about this on /co/ is because of things like Tales of the Jedi and Dark Empire. You think anyone gives a shit about Droids or those shitty Marvel runs from the 80s?

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Who do you think is going to be the Harrison Ford of the new trilogy?

My money's on Boyega.

>>78404630
Poe.
>Looks older
>Has charisma

>>78401742

I think that when they were doing the OT, the idea of Jedi being as prominent and present in Republic politics wasn't a thing.

I think they were supposed to be more decentralized and their extermination was more of a shadow war than some great propogandized thing.

>>78404630
It's pretty obvious who's supposed to be who.
Rey=Luke
Finn=Leia
Poe=Han

>>78404630
Probably Boyega. He's the best actor, his character is the most interesting and he's already got another male lead coming up with Emma Watson.

>>78404630
But Finn is the Leia. Poe is Han

Unless you mean in terms of marketability in which case, yeah Boyega

>>78404390
>Everyone when it came out
>Almost everyone was consuming some EU

You keep using that word "everyone."

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/1998/1998-12.html
>Dec 1998
>Star Wars #1 - 49,322

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/1999/1999-05.html
>May 1999 (The month of the movie's release)
>Star Wars TPM #1 - 88,437
>Other TPM Tie-ins around 70k
>Main Star Wars - 35,239

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2015/2015-11.html
>2015 in November 2015 (A month before release)
>Vader Down #1 - 384,969
>Star Wars #12 - 123,133
>Darth Vader #12 - 90,077
>Chewbacca #4 - 58,051
>Kanan #8 - 42,824

Let's assume every issue sold translates to a reader (though we all know it doesn't). The main Star Wars comic is currently over three times as popular than it was at the release of TPM. It's even more popular than the highest selling of their big hype releases that month. In fact, there were THREE Star Wars comics that sold higher than all four issues of TPM, and ALL FIVE solid significantly higher than the main Star Wars title (also, four of those double shipped). You can ignore the Vader Down numbers (like I intentionally ignored the Star Wars #1 launch numbers), and that all still stands.

So assuming that one one sale = one reader (it doesn't) and the average movie ticket is $10 (guessing here), let's look at readership vs viewership.

>Star Wars VII Domestic Opening Weekend: $248 million
>Divided by ten: 24.8 million viewers
>Star Wars #12 readers: 123,133

So approximately (and I admit this is rough math) 201 times as many people saw Star Wars VII on opening weekend in the US than read the comic book. That means .5% of the movie goers had read even the most popular Star Wars comic.

And this is while the Star Wars comic is at it's most popular in the past 30 years.

Simply put, there has never been a time when the majority of fans have been reading EU material.

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>>78404630
Speaking of TFA.
>Rey, did I ever tell you about Kanan, Hera, Chopper, Zeb and Sabine? They were good friends who fought with me against the evil Agent Kallus and the Inquisitors. Be sure to watch our adventures on Disney XD every Wednesday night at 9pm, 8 central.

Seriously, what the fuck?

>>78404487
kek

It's already a lock for Titanic. Avatar is probably going down too.

>>78404630
Nah its all on Isaac, mainly because already a 10/10 actor

>>78404630
It's between John and Oscar. They're both established actors who you have shown some range. I can easily imagine Ridley getting typecasted for life.

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>>78404784
Agreed.

>>78404761

Add the novel sales, because the EU wasnt just the comics. That's what he meant.

I work at a Toys R Us and the amount of little girls there buying figures, Disney Infinity and lightsaber shit is absolutely ridiculous compared to the weeks before the movie. Like goddamn

>>78402122

Anakin built his own podracer, used it toake first place when he had never even finished a race (and no othrr human could do it), built C3p0, and piloted a Naboo fighter all when he was 8 years old.

Rey had piloted plenty of ships, was familiar with hand to hand combat, and already knew about Luke and the Jedi and the force before she got her powers.

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>>78404759
Exactly, everybody loves John

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlHPPh-KuM0

>>78404726
Plus he was Moses in Attack The Block. Movie kicked ass!

Alright I really hate to ask this question but I'm getting conflicting information so I thought I'd try. Is the TFA novel canon? I know the movie would overwrite it if there was discrepancies but what about the stuff that there is no discrepancy about?

>>78404761
>comparing one comic to another at a time when comics are huge
>cherrypicking a single comic when I said the EU in general
>comparing a comic to a Star Wars movie when most people see Star Wars movies multiple times
>saying that 1 issue sale doesn't equal one reader (so are people just buying multiples of the same issue?)
That is wonky as fuck. Also you have to take into account that many of the EU was divided among people who liked different things (comics/games/books/bounty hunters/jedi/sith/etc) so one single thing from the EU isn't going to be consumed by everyone (normally, however some things did like the Thrawn Trilogy, Kotor, etc).

It's something that has so many variables and different topics that it's impossible to compare. You had to have lived in the era and seen culture as the EU was coming out to know how big it was.

What can the First Order do to follow up the Starkiller?

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>TR-8R comes with Finn
10/10

>>78404668
>Implying Finn isn't soaked in charisma.

>>78404920
Darth P will unleash his Sith army on the Republic

>>78404909
Talk about a movie that's about to jump in video/on demand sales. Even if 1/10th of a percent of the people who see Star Wars even become aware of Attack the Block that'll still lead to a nice jump in that movies public awareness.

>>78404920
Do what happened with ESB: show a new Super Star Destroyer instead of a new super weapon and maybe start a big war like AOTC's ending.

>>78404926
Thank you Hot Toys, now I just need enough money to afford them.

>>78404920
Use the force of course. After all, the capability to destroy and entire star system is insignificant to the power of the force, somehow.

>>78404926
>Random Stormtrooper was more badass than Capt Phasma

>>78404920
Go smaller and focus on tactical strikes?

>>78404939
My favorite character in the movie and i liked them all.

>>78399080
How would it work? The force unleashed with more style and tighter controls?

>>78404926
BASED

>>78404926
>a black man and a riot control stormtrooper
the implications tho

>>78399180
I don't think you've ever seen my hair anon. Kylo's is probably greasy from constant helmet wear.