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So, just saw the movie. Liked it, pretty good. A little too straight foreward, thin on the details. But it WAS made for a younger audience, and hey - still better than Lucas' attempt to do the same.
Hearing the force talked about so matter of factly is a bit disjointing. I think the biggest obstacle fans face is disconnecting all the EU material in their heads and everything from decades of star wars prior, since it's all been declared Ex-Canonicus Extremis in Perditious.
I'm really glad they killed that person who you know they killed, that persons performance was the weakest over all. New cast is pretty good. Old cast is old and... stale and bad. Fite me if you must, but they really delivered the weakest performance here.
Also the tradition of Cantina owners somehow being all fucking knowing has come back from the Prequels to haunt us. Madame No-Capes pls, get out of movie.
Over all a pretty good film, just two scenes made me balk. The scene where they get THAT SHIP to get off the desert planet - as soon as they showed it I said "are you fucking kidding me?"
That and Kylo Ren unmasking. I laughed out fucking loud at his stupid face.
>that persons performance was the weakest over all.
What. He fell immediately back into the role. Leia was the one acting like she had a stroke. Even talked out the side of her mouth.
I wouldn't mind if her final scene wasn't so dumb. Couldn't they take some random officer or even Hux hostage instead?
She needs that riot stick, Gwen did take fencing lessons iirc so it could be fun to watch Phasma with a hand weapon.
That's only for those that have followed all the info about the new cannon before seeing the movie though.
Mine are recycling parts of episode 4's plot, underused Phasma, and Kylo Ren's angry outbursts being dumb and taking away from him as a menacing antagonist.
>Kylo Ren's angry outbursts being dumb and taking away from him as a menacing antagonist.
That was the best part though and part of what made him menacing.
Really getting tired of people whining that Kylo wasn't just the same sith character we've gotten for six movies already.
I liked Kylo Ren's outbursts, they showed what he really was - an angry teenager. This is what the darkside is about, being ruled by your passions. That's what makes them strong. You even see Ren psyching himself up during the final duel, pounding his chest wound, getting pumped.
>That and Kylo Ren unmasking. I laughed out fucking loud at his stupid face.
Yeah, seriously. Kylo is a good character concept, but the actor looks like a Harry Potter character. Someone in the previous said he'd prefer Gwendoline to be Kylo and honestly I agree. She looks young enough to make it work.
>You even see Ren psyching himself up during the final duel, pounding his chest wound, getting pumped.
That's not exactly what it was. He was punching his wound so he could tap into the pain to increase his connection to the dark side.
This. His character is outstanding because he's different, he's a villain and powerful, but far from perfect and unstoppable. It's that approach that makes him more than just another Star Wars villain.
Yeah, that's the hallway from Cloud City, where Luke is wandering and Vader ambushes him
>But it WAS made for a younger audience
It was made for a newer generation but it had a PG-13 rating and had all the nostalgia pandering
>I'm really glad they killed that person who you know they killed, that persons performance was the weakest over all.
No way. He completely sold it. That other role he played as a certain explorer in his fourth movie, that one he was trying too hard in.
Well I might be just we, but I kept thinking about how he was destroying equipment that would have to be replaced, and choking out people for giving him bad news would encourage them to tell Hux instead, undermining his authority. Vader usually dealt these out for failure.
>ou even see Ren psyching himself up during the final duel, pounding his chest wound, getting pumped.
He wasn't getting pumped, he was using the pain of the wound to stay conscious
We saw him already in Episode 2 and 3 in Anakin and at least we had context on why he was acting like that.
With Kylo so far we have that he likes granddad and hates dad which are not really good reasons.
Here's the soundtrack covers vote:
He uploaded his TFA covers so i replaced the separate images with one.
In order from top to bottom are the 6 different ones he's made.
Well still, it wouldn't be that good if he stayed like this in the next film. I hope they show some changes in his attitude from the events of The Force Awakens and from 'completing his training'.
He never even wanted to come back for Empire. He strongly felt that Han Solo's story arc was complete in that movie since you see him go from disinterested criminal to a hero trying to make a difference and didn't feel there was anything more to get out of the character.
>choking out people for giving him bad news
Exactly like Vader did constantly?
Yeah i'd like to see him develop and become more menacing. or at least more outright psychotic, like an ugly male Azula.
I really liked the sword fighting in this. Good mix of realism and flashy. I'm sure it'll get more hype the more movies come. The Jedi characters need time to develop.
Speaking of which, do you think it's possible Finn is latent? It would explain him freaking out around all the death, it would explain his ability to use a lightsaber even though it's never given any indication he can use anything but a blaster.
Just got back from it, fucking 10/10, this is the Star Wars movie we've been waiting for for 30 years, amazing action, great characters, a fantastic script unlike the SHITTY FUCKING PREQUELS, I wish Abrams was staying for the rest of the movies because he fucking GETS Star Wars
Man all the good ones have at least one that ruins it.
>Top row is fucking great except the first one has the Maul duel with Obi & Qui-Gon...with a Tatooine background?..
>Second and third rows TFA covers don't follow the style at all and so they don't work.
>Fourth one the first two covers look WAY too similar. No idea why they didn't use a day shot of Naboo.
The vehicle ones aren't great but they're probably the most consisten at least.
IDK if i'd go that far, Abrahms has a poison touch when it comes to sequels. I'm glad he's not on the directors chair for the other films. The last thing we need is two more HEY NUDGE NUDGE WINK WINK retreads.
>Exactly like Vader did constantly?
He didn't choke people for bad news, just for serious fuckups (or in Motti's case, to prove a point). Kylo's got temper issues, but that's part of his character- he's not as controlled as Vader was, and he's clearly still got some issues to work out that even he admits (both to Vader's helmet and to Han) that he's struggling with.
>Speaking of which, do you think it's possible Finn is latent? It would explain him freaking out around all the death, it would explain his ability to use a lightsaber even though it's never given any indication he can use anything but a blaster.
When he was freaking out at first, i thought the same.
using a light-saber requires reflexes that either force sensitives have or life long mandos.
I feel the same way. I really don't know that Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow can meet, let alone, exceed this film with 8 and 9. I'm a bit worried without JJ to be honest, he was already one of my favorite directors before this film so I had faith in him to begin with.
I feel the exact opposite, JJ Abrahms turns everything I love into LENSE FLARE and shit, so I was really worried.
Well of course he's not as controlled as Vader was - Vader had a legit Jedi masters training (we still dunno who big spooky prune face is) and Vader was also basically dead inside at the time since his waifu and everything he had fought for was destroyed.
Episode VII's doesn't fit
Okay I guess, VII's only kinda works
Like it, but V's is so bland, isn't there anything else that would work?
VI is just... yikes.
He had a chest wound that was pouring blood and it was shown that Rey is just ludicrously powerful in the force, being able to use Jedi level abilities with no idea what she's doing. She's basically Starkiller, IMO
Though I guess he also did it to prove a point? He was also stopped by someone higher ranked then the guy he was choking.
With Kylo, subordinates will just start informing high ranked officers like Hux that Kylo can't choke and let him find out through them.
You know what I'm really excited for Episode VIII? It's gonna have Rey and Finn separated for a while. Not that they weren't great together, they were, but it's going to be two separate things, Rey figuring shit out with Luke but more importantly,
FINN AND POE'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURES
That's just because Vader looks for any reason to correct authority figures trying to lecture him. Or just kill people that Palpatine wants around out of spite. Vader genuinely has no love for the Empire deep down, so by killing the various high ranking officers around him, it's already a subconscious rebellion against Palpatine, the dark side, and the shitty path he chose.
>She's basically Starkiller, IMO
Eh I wouldn't go that far. Her being able to use the mind trick out of nowhere was dumb, but that was pretty much the only time when.
Okay, and Force-pulling the lightsaber. But that's far from Starkiller level.
I'm surprised to see that Captain Phasma is just the new Boba Fett.
>Cool armor, got a cape and shit
>Hype over her role in the movie
>Doesn't do anything, easily overtaken and thrown down a garbage chute
>Not even the most threatening Stormtrooper
>Pretty lame when you think about it, yes
It's pretty lame if you don't think about it.
If you do think about it, you realize he had a chest wound the size of a fucking slug in his chest and was clearly going through his own mental issues.
It's not like Rey picked up the saber and started beating him either
>no vote for Sarco Plank
Excuse me, but Sarco Plank was one of the most important characters in the movie, and his character arc was one of the most profound and emotional. You could even say he was the key to The Force Awakens, and I think you're out of line for not including him in this poll.
>Just fought some other shmuck
>Had giant hole in his gut,
just killed his fatherjust killed his father and was more focused on awkwardly turning someone to the darkside.
>She was already trained in melee combat and took out 2 guys by herself before she was force sensitive.
Honestly curious what J.J. was thinking with Rey. Luke trained with Obi-Wan and YODA and still struggled to lift rocks and didn't pull off the mind trick until Jedi.
Rey shouldn't even know about the Jedi mind trick and pulls it off without even knowing she's force sensitive. Then she manages to pull off a stronger force pull on the lightsaber than Kylo and then beat him in a lightsaber duel.
There's literally no explanation they could give for why she's so proficient immediately. Even Anakin who was the byproduct of the force shooting its midichlorian juice into Schmi, required training.
I only remember 2 trailers and they were both trash that no one wanted, Angry Birds movie and yet another YA book adaptation about aliens invading or some shit that looked embarrassing.
>Then she manages to pull off a stronger force pull on the lightsaber than Kylo and then beat him in a lightsaber duel.
Him beating her had nothing to do with her being stronger then him in the force. The saber just refused to move for Kylo, it did not move once when he tried to pull it. Also she beat him because the dude had a hole in his chest and Finn messed him up a bit more too.
They whooped and hollered and clapped for every trailer Kung Fu Panda, Jungle Book, that Laika studios one and the Fifth Wave. And then when the Finest Hour trailer showed, which was legitimately the best trailer and the only movie that actually looked good, it was dead silent and one person gave it a pity clap and then the theater laughed.
The sloth trailer had everyone laughing. I don't remember any of the other trailers getting much of a reaction, but I did hear one guy in the row in front of me go "but they just told us the entire story" at the Miracles from Heaven trailer
My theater was mostly college aged male nerds who were too hip and ironic to enjoy anything. There were a lot of smug laughs after the BvS trailer, I turned to my friend sitting next to me and said "They're all gonna see it anyway."
The Jungle Book trailer seemed to go over the best, oddly enough,
>but I did hear one guy in the row in front of me go "but they just told us the entire story" at the Miracles from Heaven trailer
He's right. I don't even pay attention to the various religious movies that have been coming out, but they trailer tells you the entire story, including the ending. It's baffling that someone thought this was a good idea.
Chewie can still take this role.
I only got Civil War, some shitty slav comedies and a Belgian comedy where some dude was apparently god and some lady slept with a gorilla. CW was the only one to get some sort of reaction, mostly from kids.
Ren had been shot, and not just with a blaster, they made a point of showing multiple times that Chewie's bowcaster packed more destructive power than your average blaster. At one point it blew a stormtrooper's armor to bits. Ren was basically hobbled after having a big ass hole blown in him and he still managed to hold his own against Rey, after defeating Finn no less, both of whom were in perfect physical condition and in Rey's case was already excellent at CQC before she got force powers and a lightsaber.
And that's not even taking into account how focus plays a role in force user duels, Rey was on the 'trust in the force' hike and was completely focused on Ren after what happened with Solo and Finn. Ren on the other hand had just
killed his dadand was taking it pretty fucking badly, and had just fought and defeated Finn who had (because of his extensive injuries) scored a decent hit on his one remaining good arm/shoulder.
Of course the poor bastard lost the fight, he needed a fucking sit down and a nice warm glass of milk from papa Snoke before he was ready to deal with those bullies. Poor guy had a fucking rough day.
The Zootopia sloth trailer by far. Everyone was cracking up. Even the coolio high school basketball dudes in front of me were losing it.
Jungle Book and Civil War got some oohs and aahs, and I think there was another trailer that I don't remember, so it was probably mediocre.
Yeah, Adam Driver's performance is exactly what George Lucas seemed to have been trying to pull off but couldn't quite reach because of writing and the actor he cast. He really nailed it.
Speaking of that they showed the Batman vs. Superman trailer.
Holy shit does that movie look terrible. They literally called the movie Batman VERSUS Superman and then spoil in the trailer that they get over their problem and team up to take on the real bad guy. AND SPOILED WHO THE REAL BAD GUY WAS.
Rey was a boring non-character, she would literaly be a Mary Sue if this was fanfiction
Finn and Poe were highlights of the movie. Their bromance was by far the most endearing part of the movie, and Finn's character growth was really compelling to watch.
Kylo was great until he had extended temper tantrums. I don't mind the occasional destroyed piece of equipment or whatever, but slashing at a wall for almost a minute really took a lot of the threat out of him for me.
Han was good, but his quips didn't feel like Han. I was
glad when he diedBecause that means Poe and Finn have more chance to shine.
The plot was a fucking garbage super lazy rehash of A New Hope. Only the names and places were changed.
The destruction of
The Republicwas stupid. No emotional impact of buildup, no actual importance other than "Rebel V Empire" status quo. it was genocide porn, short and simple, and it really fucking draggged the movie down for me.
7/10 still better than AOTC.
>They literally called the movie Batman VERSUS Superman and then spoil in the trailer that they get over their problem and team up to take on the real bad guy. AND SPOILED WHO THE REAL BAD GUY WAS.
To be fair, that was kind of expected. But yeah, the movie looks awful.
>The destruction of The Republic was stupid. No emotional impact of buildup, no actual importance other than "Rebel V Empire" status quo. it was genocide porn, short and simple, and it really fucking draggged the movie down for me.
The Resistance doesn't even fucking react. Like five minutes later they're literally joking about lol another Death Star.
Everything about the Starkiller weapon was stupid
>General Hux, the Death Star failed in both of its prior forms. Wouldn't it make sense to build a larger fleet?
>Then we shall make an entire plane into a superweapon! And we shall destroy all who stand in our way! And the only ones who will know our base's secrets will be the Janitors!
>.... fucking Gingers
She is a Skywalker and learned how to use the force when Luke trained her in his academy. Rey's mind got wiped and Kylo left her on Jakku to die without him getting his hands dirty. She didn't learn to use the force in this movie, the force just awakened in her again.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this would be a good explanation for her being so strong already.
Honestly I prefer it that way. Following the Jedi way is Luke's thing, I always thought it was unnecessary for Leia to train as a Jedi. Maybe just hone some of her Force connection, but not pick up a lightsaber and start flipping around and Force-pushing things.
I like that they kept her as a military leader who maintains a connection to the Force but isn't trying to follow in her brother's footsteps.
It would be an explanation. It wouldn't be a good one. That said, no matter what explanation they offer it's still a lazy way of offering Jedi Stuff in The New Star Wars Movie. It's still cheap and unearned. The damage is done. It won't make TFA a better movie, though the sequels might provide a better overall story.
I've had the FO Trooper for a while now. But I signed in yesterday and it was like here's your free Phasma. My friend got Poe too though so maybe it varied. Phasma is pretty good support. Now I have three First Order characters too and they all get buffs together.
Hux going to consult Snoke about what to do was pretty stupid, yeah. I know they had to set up the next one, but Hux could've been talking to him on his ship while he was evacuating.
"Where is Kylo?"
"We have him onboard sir, we're treating his wounds"
"Bring him to me, I'll complete his training"
And there, that's it. Instead the guy goes all the way to the big audience chamber to talk to the giant hologram while the place is falling apart and seriously asks him what he should do. What kind of idiot does that?
I think it's pretty stupid desu. She's literally intentionally gimping herself, the resistance and the future of the Jedi because???
Oh and look how it turned out. She has a son and because she never bothered with the force she sends her son away and he resents her for it and ends up trying to be like his grandfather.
GOOD JOB LEIA
I've used Phasma a few times as an ally character, and have to agree. Her and my genosian soldier helps with bonus attacks, and the Troopers counter attacks all lead to some quick build up in damage.
Billy D Williams will do just about fucking anything for money so if they offer...
Leia was always too headstrong and stubborn. Her learning too much force would be a recipe for disaster. She probably recognized this
So what do you think the TWEEEST on the Rey/Finn romance will be? obviously with them pushing it so fucking hard, something has to make it not happen in the next movie or two. They can't pull the 'secretly related' thing this time either, cause...well, you know.
It is when it's literally the only thing you can do. The place was blowing apart, what did Hux think Snoke was going to do, tell him "oh go find the explosion-prevention override switch in corridor 2, that'll fix everything"
I honestly thought that scene was going to end with Snoke saying "You have failed me... Perish for your trespass" or some shit and leave him to die.
Snoke so far seems pretty fucking reasonable for an evil overlord. Even when his minions are being shit, he doesn't berate them too badly.
What's your teams right now?
My hero team is
Just got Ahsoka today though so I'm gonna try to replace Ewok or Jawa probably.
Dark Side is
Training up my First Order Trooper and First Order TIE Pilot right now so I can use them with Phasma.
Sheev is fucking amazing. Just had a battle where everyone else died on 3/3 but him and he was against three Jedi. He dodged or reflected nearly everything they tried to do and gained health back every time he hit them and solo'd the wave.
If the Death Planet consumes a sun every time it fires.... how did they charge it twice? Did that planet have two suns?
How could they ever fire it again? How many suns could possibly be close by?
Doesn't the map confirm they've moved it from one system to another?
I honestly think destroying suns to fire a laser beam was bit of an overkill. Destroying stars in inhabited systems alone would be scary enough.
I got a free Phasma and Resistance Trooper. Trying to grind for Poe and Rey now. Kinda want Ren, but I don't have enough for another crystal pull.
Eeath Koth (newest addition)
Five shards away from Dooku and about ten away from Snips. Still on the fence as to who to go for next.
Clone Trooper > First Order Stormtrooper > Empire Stormtrooper
This cannot be denied
You have to wonder how they escaped notice when their operation involves sucking up suns. I can see the Death Stars escaping detection because they're moon-sized, but if suns start disappearing someone is going to notice.
Though I'm assuming the Hosnian massacre is the first time it was ever actually used.
I'm kind of meh on the FO Stormtroopers
Unless you're referring to their skill/competency level, in which case yeah, that sounds about right given what we know about their training and recruitment (or lack of in the case of clones and the FOS)
I've gotten really lucky with draws. And after a couple days you can usually afford to buy a character from the Squad Arena Shipment and Squad Cantina Shipment. Ahsoka for example was only 25 crystals and each Squad Cantina shipment of her got you 5. So I got her real quick.
Pretty much all of the trailers got some sort of reaction but the biggest ones were Kung Fu Panda and BvS. When Wonder Woman actually appeared during BvS, people actually started to clap.
Imagine what your favorite Star Wars character is like drunk. Mine is pic related, so I don't have to imagine.
Hero team is
Dark side is
and Snow trooper.
To be fair, i just started playing less than a week ago, so i'm still working on building my roster.
And yeah, Rey became avaliable same day as Finn and Kylo.
You get her shards on 2-A hard light side or the data packs, but you need 80 shards.
Not sure about luke. I mean you can fight him in his cloud city outfit with his lightsaber, and he's called Rebel Luke Skywalker, so it looks like he's only an enemy for now
We got the Dad's Army remake
It looks alright.
Hey guys, this game is actually pretty good, and it just got updated qith the characters of TFW, anyone else playing it?
It's addicting as shit and it doesn't feel like the microtransactions bend you over TOO hard. I've got a decent amount of characters and always feel like I'm making progress. And there's a bunch of different arenas that all go off their own energy so it feels like there's never a point where I can't battle when I want to and energy stacks over max as well. And every character has like three unique skills. There are time you can just auto-battle through but there's been a lot of times where I needed to manually map out the battles myself and put some strategy into it.
Galaxy of Heroes >>> Uprising >>>>>>>>>> Commander
A diehard devotion to Palpatine that likely runs in her family. The First Order, aside from brainwashed Stormtroopers, is made up of fanatical zealots who thought the post-Endor Empire was full of retarded Moffs and Governors not worth following because it devolved into petty squabling over scraps, so the soldiers followed their military leaders, and what's implied to be Snoke, off to hide and rebuild.
My trailers (IMAX 3D) were all nerd-shit:
>Independence Day 2
>Jungle Book (the only non-nerd trailer)
I feel like there was one more, but I forgot. No Zootopia.
None of them got huge reactions, since they've mostly been out for a while. But it was clear that everyone in the theater had OPINIONS about BvS, especially once Wonder Woman showed up, because the chatter went up a lot at that point.
For me, though? Warcraft got me fucking hype. I hadn't seen that trailer yet, and it looks great. Even if it's not a good movie, the aesthetic is perfect.
Am I alone in wanting to see an Ewok in Rebels?
If TCW could help fix the Gungans (though to be fair there wasn't anything wrong with them save Jar Jar) then I don't see why Filoni can't redeem the little buggers somehow.
>yfw Syrio was in the cantina
Anyone else kinda disappointed with the new aliens?
Not because their designs are bad or anything but because it felt like J.J. didn't even WANT us to see them. The pacing for the entire movie was too fast but man it seemed like the camera just did NOT want to look at any background characters. It moved through Maz's cantina like a fucking bullet.
>mfw she dyes the carpet to match the drapes
It felt as if there were only two kinds of them, nondescript rodent-ish creature and nondescript ugly wrinkly dude, with maybe 3 or 4 exceptions. Nothing quite as remarkable as Rosidans, Mon Calamari, Jawas, let alone many of the Clone Wars races, like whatever the fuck Trench was.
Just got back from seeing it a second time. Was able to appreciate it more since this screening must have been full with people that are seeing it again. No loud obnoxious clapping that lasts so long that it inturrupts the next lines, but people still laughing at the fun moments.
Yeah I don't know if it's because they're new and I'm not used to them but everything in the PT felt like Star Wars.
Despite the practical effects none of the background characters in TFA felt like Star Wars. It's kinda peculiar. Dunno if George was behind creature design but maybe that was it?
The stand out aliens in TFA were Nien Nunb and Akbar so...
>tfw no tall space facist waifu to gently dominate you
There was a weird trend towards orange toad/lizard-looking aliens, too. There were a few designs that were alright but none that really stand out, and there wasn't a lot of diversity in the designs. The whole "wow look at this bar full of weird aliens" thing doesn't work as well when very few of them stand out.
Yeah, exactly. The only ones I found remarkable were that guy on Jakku with those clunky prosthetic arms that looked like front of a digger and maybe the Crimson Corsair but he doesn't even really count.
To me, it felt too much like the alien races he added to the Star Trek reboot films which were out of place there already. I liked the insect guys playing a game in Maz's place though. And the Rathtars. Should have at least thrown some Twi'leks and Rodians in though so it felt a little bit more familiar. I also would have loved to see more Kel'Dor or those shark guys personally.
technically all humans are apes anon
Majority of them are big ugly and wrinkly. I think he just went overboard desu. The Mos Eisley aliens were clearly just humanoids in masks but that's why they all worked. They weren't overdone.
You know, it's funny how some people here brought up they were disappointed we didn't get an alien lead for TFA. When George originally wanted Han Solo to be an alien before changing it, kinda makes me wonder how the film would have turned out
The Rathtars didn't really feel too much like SW aliens, they were pretty generic retro sci-fi designs. Not out of place but hardly what I'd consider the hallmark of Sw alien designs.
>ywn be a FO Storm Trooper under Phasma
>ywn try your hardest to get better in order to catch her attention
>she will never admire your tenacity and take you under her wing personally
>ywn grow closer to her with private training
I'm watching Star Wars The Clone Wars, and I just got to the first episode all about Jar Jar.
This is supposed to be funny, right? Cause Jar Jar comes across as genuinely learning disabled. Like, actually retarded. So it's just sad.
>Kylo Ren's angry outbursts being dumb and taking away from him as a menacing antagonist.
That was the entire point. He's struggling. He wants to be menacing, but he isn't quite there. He fucking hates himself for being a weak pussy
By comparison look at these guys.
You've got Devaronian, Bith, Duros, Talz, Trandoshan, Jawa, Ithorian, Aqualish and Rodian all there. All amazing designs despite their simple humanoid with a mask concept.
What, they needed to make ithorians more humanoid for some reason? And "one normal mouth" as in "one normal mouth in addition to the usual Ithorian holes?" Bull honkey.
And a beard? Naw man. Naw.
>i'm having more fun playing Galaxy of Heroes then I am Battlefront.
They shouldn't have even had Kylo Ren be the main baddie. I would have loved it if Phasna was the big bad or the dragon with Kylo as a more mature character and playing the supreme leader.
I'm pretty sure she instinctively tapped into the Force when she was being interrogated by Kylo Ren. She accidentally got into his head. Additionally, Ren was basically using the Jedi mind trick to try to coerce into showing him the map. She's not retarded, if somebody is using the force to manipulate her mind I think she would realize that she could potentially do the same.
This motherfucker was always terrifying to me.
Now all I can think of is him calling Obi-Wan 'Uncle Obi'
If you've seen it more than once, what are some things you noticed on your followup viewings?
>Yoda can be heard talking during the vision scene
>Spider walkers on Starkiller
>Star Destroyer shadows in the distance when it transitions to Starkiller establishing shots
>Nien Nunb didn't die
So I was watching TPM again in the marathon and what the fuck were those skeleton aliens in the crowd. I literally never noticed them before. Looked like someone stuck Grim Fandango characters in the game
What if they aren't related at all, and she actually led him to the dark side just like Revan led Malak? Then she got captured and mindwiped and he thought she was dead or something. His hesitation to kill her is his love for her coming back, the only good left in him despite her turning him to darkness. Over the course of the trilogy he progressively starts to go back to the light and she falls back to the dark, culminating in a very Shakespearean final duel.
Truly the hero every mook in every movie deserved.
The jungle book trailer with Kaarlett johansen got a solid reaction
from my dick.
>we shall make an entire plane into a superweapon!
Fuck no. He killed his own dad because a taller version of the emperor told him too.
Though I wonder if Snoke is actually that huge, or if it was just a very big projection of him
Do you even cinematography? Far more focus was put on a connection to Luke and then his friends and family. Han and Leia didn't mention her, and in context, that's either damning of Kylo/Rey sibling-hood or JJ going full Lucas in terms of dialogue, which he avoided fine for the rest of the movie. It's more /poetic/ if they're cousins too, think about it.
>Luke's daughter fights against Leia's son
>siblings kids are on opposite sides, just like how Luke and Leia were in opposite worlds when they were separated
>they aren't so close though that there's a feeling of guilt over being rivals
>and the best part: No low-end EU material getting into a movie. As if Pablo would allow it.
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
you can always write/draw something that suits your needs yourself
but yeah it's dumb if it'll be the case, Christie's appeal largely comes from the fact that she's flat and a head taller than most people
Just kidding, you don't have a choice.
>The Resistance almost had a weapon that could smash into a planet through its shields and deploy ships from within
Now see the thing about Kylo is that from what we can gather from the info we have on him, he is a sympathetic antagonist, he did a horrific thing, but I honestly do believe that it could've been avoided if Leia and Han had just helped him more instead of shipping him off.
Tbh that'd be better than the super obvious she's Luke's daughter.
But let's be real, she's Luke's daughter and he's gonna have a "I'am your father" scene.
Search your pottery, you know it to be true.
No, there are other visual dictionaries out there. The OT got one, and each of the prequels had one.
They're just full of stuff that isn't canon anymore since they reference a lot of EU stuff. So in a way, Ultimate Star Wars is the closest the other movies have to a visual dictionary that's in line with the new canon.
>But Neal Scanlan, chief of creature and droid effects, told PEOPLE, "This character is much better executed as a CGI character. That's just a practical reality when he's 7-foot-something tall; he's very, very thin."
I don't have it myself. Just been reading forum posts of people who do have it.
>Most important parts: Kylo Ren definitely knows who Rey is. And it was implied that he didn't want to kill her, even surprised that she attacked him first.
>When he first heard of the girl, he snapped like in the movie, but it was is implied there was more to the story. When he found she was "just" a scavenger, he seemed dissapointed but still interested since she has a strong affinity to the Force.
>However, in their duel, when she snags the lightsaber from him, he says: "It is you".
>Their encounter also ended when Hux came and dragged him onboard a shuttle.
>Snoke also knows who Rey is. He even told Kylo he sensed that he had compassion for her.
>During Reys interrogation it was kind of implied that Kylo hit a wall in her mind, before she managed to turn it around and enter his.
>During a Leia/Han-scene, Leia said that Snoke had followed Kylo since he was a small boy, whispering in his ear and Leia had tried to shield him from Snokes influence.
>She heard mechanical breathing (Anakin) and it was implied she saw Luke and Anakins duel on Bespin, 7 people on a battlefield, more lightsaber-battles before she saw the future again (encounter with Kylo Ren). This also stood out:
>"Then behind her, another voice. That voice. "Stay here, I'll come back for you.""
You must have got memory problems because taking a blast from a bowcaster fighting an ex stormtrooper and finally having a fight with a scavenger who had to live alone in a waste land.
If anything it took a lot to finally get him to stay down. At full strength I'm sure he would have cut her head clean off.
It always hurts my soul a little bit how everyone involved in Star Wars seems to not be so fond of it
It's why I love Daniels, Baker and Mayhew so much. So if those three don't like Star Wars nobody tell me.
So what are your Squad Arena ranks in Galaxy of Heroes?
Daniels might be a bit of a dick but he does love the character of C-3PO and that's why he always plays him in whatever media there is. Unlike some actors, he DOESN'T charge too much and that's why they don't get someone else to do it.
So what's that Galaxy of Heroes game?
I can buy and play KOTOR on my phone. what a world.
i shouldn't though right? cause yeah it was a long time ago I played it but i don't think it's a mobile experience
Galaxy of Heroes is a free to play turn based game where you collect star wars characters and rank them up.
it's fun, but don't buy anything because you get a bunch of shit to start off with
>Shit, should I help Lord Vader? No, he'd probably choke me for getting in the way.
>Then again, he might expect me to help him, the he'll get angry that I just stood there and did nothing here, and choke me anyway. Man, he's a puzzle that guy.
> Snoke somehow manages to make the force sort of dormant for a while, expanding on how Palpatine weakened the jedi and trouble their visions in his time.
> Hence why the jedi academy get slaughtered that easily.
> Hence why Luke go in exile.
> The force can only be awaken as a new jedi appeared.
Time for purposely making shit up and pretending it's speculation again!
Finn confirmed Kyle Katarn
>Starts out as a stormtrooper
>Defects to the good guys
>Oh shit I actually had force powers the whole time.
Rey is a force baby
>Snoke is somehow Plagueis
>He succeeded in creating a force child
>He wants to brainwash his creation.
Watch Poe be force sensitive somehow.
>tfw no Finn Poe space adventures across the galaxy.
Depends. In the last 7-8 months they ended up getting a fairly complete layout of the movie, but people saying "MSW was 100% right!" forget that MSW also reported a lot of shit that was flat-out wrong before then (and up through that time). Not just his speculations, but stuff he said came from insiders.
For example, a year ago he reported that Hutts would be in the movie, based on having seen concept art of Leia talking to them, and also his insider within the production confirmed it because he had seen the Hutt puppets being built.
not to mention the era of classical lightsaber combat is over, the last person having decent knowledge about it being vader. so he may be powerful in the force, but as far as CQC he probably has as much training as rey. further shown by the fact that his lightsaber is a piece of shit. i'm sure the only reason he even has one is because of "muh tradition"
People look way too much into force awakens, it's just a superficial movie about generals, princesses and so on made for young people. It's how star wars always has been, what is the point in trying to add so much depth to everything? Wiki pages on every single character and object etc.
In that case, Luke is the only person in the galaxy who has knowledge of the 7 lightsaber styles.
Prequel combat makes sense - entire cultures of force sensitives who've developed centuries of fighting styles.
Original Trilogy - Only Ben, Vader and Palpatine understand lightsaber combat.
Sequel Trilogy - slow resurgence of knowledge. The combat was a fusion of the prior styles, the fighting combat is still tense, but it has fast fluid motion.
It's like poetry, the Sequels will be between the Prequels and the Originals in terms of everything - it rhymes.
>hand gripping lightsaber tumbling through space and lands on Jakku
>the lightsaber is the mcguffin
>Hux is Luke's son undercover on Starkiller
>Resistance has a superweapon
Some parts may have been true at at some point in production, but obviously weren't in the final version.
>Hearing the force talked about so matter of factly is a bit disjointing.
Why wouldn't Han talk about it that way... one of his best friends is a Jedi, his wife is force-sensitive, and so is his son.
Why are Ahsoka's lips so great? They're literally created for blowjobs.
I feel like he needs to be redeemed to not make Han's death meaningless. Han believed in his son and he sacrificed himself because he thought there was still good in him. He knew there was a chance he would die, but he did it anyway because he truly loved his son.
If Kylo just stays evil and dies as a villain, Han would have been wrong and his decision would look foolish to us. But if Kylo turns to the light and actually becomes a hero, it's a huge win for Han because he was right, just like Luke was right about Vader.
And the people who think redeeming Kylo would be too much like redeeming Vader clearly haven't seen a well executed heel-face turn yet. There are many ways to turn a bad guy good without him having to sacrifice himself in the final scenes of the third movie. Kylo could for example become an anti hero who hates himself and Snoke for killing his father and redeem himself by taking down the people who manipulated him the whole time. We've never seen a real anti hero in Star Wars before. Someone like Driver could easily pull that off.
Negro lips, she looks like one of those African people.
Neither, she's the daughter of Count Dooku, who had his sperm frozen, decades later Mara Jade found the container for it in the Emperor's old archives and mistaking it for a dildo, warmed it up and used it on herself.
9 months later, Rey.
Just finished watching the OT with my friend and his dad who saw the OT in theaters in the 80s. Yub Nub is the most awkward fucking scene to watch with someone else. I also tried to not get kind of emotional seeing Vader dying and then seeing Luke burning his body knowing what happens in TFA.
Tomorrow we're going to all go see TFA. I can't wait to see his reactions to Kylo being Han's son, Luke fucking up and not making the new Jedi, and Vader's redemption being misinterpreted.
Also I just thought of something. What do you guys think Kylo's thoughts on Anakin during the Clone Wars are? Do you think he pities him since he wasn't yet willing to give into his anger and kill Dooku (therefore ending the war) the many times he encountered him in TCW? I bet he sees the Clone Wars as the Jedi just prolonging the war more and more because of their weird morality and further making the galaxy more and more chaotic while holding Anakin back. Then the final nail in the coffin for him is probably when Obi Wan cut Anakin's limbs off and burned him in Episode 3. You could easily misinterpret that as the Jedi being complete fuck ups who hold people back, turn on their own, and were so incompetent that they let the Clone Wars go on and on and on.
Kylo/Ben and Rey will swap roles in part two.
Ben struggles with being evil and it was more or less outright stated that he is trying to be evil not for lack of caring but because he cares too much, if he's evil he doesn't have to feel the pain of weakness or guilt or fear.
Rey is too headstrong, and the way she fought after "feeling the force" was mostly reminiscent of Luke in Jedi when he goes apeshit and just smashes through Vader's defense like a wild animal.
Rey was always going to be the main character.
Finn is mainly the secondary character. Still a toss up about him being a Jedi or not, but it's still possible.
Anyone else feel like Han and Leia's emotions over Kylo fell extremely flat because we missed 30 years an Kylo's entire life.
We hear them talk about shit but never actually had the chance to become invested. So when Han is whining about wanting his son back I don't FEEL it because I've only known his son as a prick and never known Han as a father.
>Rey is too headstrong, and the way she fought after "feeling the force" was mostly reminiscent of Luke in Jedi when he goes apeshit and just smashes through Vader's defense like a wild animal.
Better not teach her Form VII then.
>Sir, instead of hollowing out our home base planet and putting in a death ray that sucks up nearby suns, maybe we could invest in some better armour for the troopers?
>Like, you know these helmets don't even protect use from poisonous gas
I'll be honest, this is one of the things that disappoints me about this film. It does feel very strongly like a reimagining rather than trying to advance the plot of the Star Wars universe. Too much playing safe by executives.
Kylo wants to be strong, strong has Vader. Regardless of how much of Anakin's history he knows, I think he views Anakin's 'rise' to the dark side as when he was his strongest.
Kylo is obviously going through some inner turmoil, and he probably sees Vader's experience has his solution.
Show don't tell. I don't buy Ren being conflicted at all because of this.
Why the fuck would he still be, after cosplaying as a Sith and doing all sorts of bad shit for many years?
>Droid is given vital info to the resistance by rebel figure
>Droid ends up in hands of desert planet native
>Both end up with an old mentor
>Taken to a cantina
>Bad guys have a planet destroying weapon
>Insider info shows the good guys that they can use their X-Wings to manipulate a small weakness in the weapon
>Han, Chewie and main character infiltrate weapon to rescue girl lead
>Villains kills old mentor in front of main characters
AM I DESCRIBING A NEW HOPE OR THE FORCE AWAKENS?
Han sacrificed himself by confronting his son, knowing that Ren could kill him. Han could've easily avoided this situation by not going after him, but he did it anyway, because he loved Ben. This scene made Han Solo arguably the biggest hero in the saga. Obi Wan, Luke, Rey... they could always live through the force and Obi Wan knew that when he confronted Vader in ANH, but Han can't use the force. He can never come back again, but he still made the brave decision to try to get his son back. I think any loving father would've done the same, which is why this scene is so powerful. It was the perfect end to Han's character arc and it will be remembered as one of the greatest scenes in the saga.
>Ep VII is not about destroying Starkiller.
Which is why even including it was bizarre. Even the characters don't seem all that concerned about it, it apparently destroyed the Republic capital and several other inhabited worlds and killed billions but the response from everyone is just "wow, that's bad, I guess we should stop it." All the Starkiller plot does is detract from the search for Luke, which until then had been the main plot. The movie tries to then have both plots running at the same time and it just weakens them both: we get a Super Death Star plot that's not well introduced and feels completely secondary, and we get a Search for Luke plot that goes by the wayside in the third act only to get suddenly picked up again at the end and very quickly wrapped up.
That's exactly my problem. We had this 30 year skip and we're just expected to take everything at face value. But the pacing is so ridiculously fast I don't feel like I ever got a chance to get acclimated to everything going on.
There feels like there's an entire movie missing inbetween.
I think once VIII comes out and we get more backstory it will improve VII by proxy by a ton.
That itself is reminiscent of Anakin's fighting style.
Anakin is canonically the most aggressive duelist in the Prequel Era.
His Form V - Djem So, is aggressive as shit. The fucker is relentless.
>JJ: Hey, Harrison, I want you to come back as Han Solo for Episode VII
>Ford: Only if you kill my character off.
>Ford: And don't just imply it, I want the audience to accept his death immediately
>JJ: Alright, we'll not just stab him in the chest, but also let him fall to his doom.
>Ford: I want you to destroy the entire planet too, just to be sure
Honestly I feel like it made him the biggest chump because it was so obvious what was coming. It did more for Kylo than it did for Han.
Really Han looks pathetic throughout the whole thing. He doesn't go out on top as the great hero and general he was in the OT. He has a son who they pawn off on Luke because they don't know how to be parents and then he runs away from his problems for decades acting like a child again until his son finally kills him for being a shitty father.
Huh, I wonder who would mention Azu-
>Sees THAT trip
>Lego Takodana is a fucking wall with Kylo and troopers
>not a dope castle bar full of mobsters
That is the biggest issue with the movie with me, that apparently the foundation of the galactic government (the Senate) has been destroyed and nobody seems to really care all that much. In a movie that otherwise does a good job of ramping up tension when it needs to, destroying Hosnian was a huge flatline, which makes me wonder why it was even in the movie other than as a ANH reference.
Yeah, attacking a FO base to get an additional third part of the map and getting Ray back (because she could give the FO the last part they need) could have been enough.
Now the New Republic HAVE to react in the next movie, or dare I say
She was far more interesting than Zuko because we all knew Zuko was eventually going to become good, like I predict this chap in Star Wars will turn good by the end of the series.
>guy claiming to be a Lucasfilm canon consultant starts an Ask Me Anything thread
>starts getting called on his answers
>breaks down and goes full "I-I WAS JUST TROLLING YOU" as he gets laughed at
What a thread that was