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Edition VII: Apocalypse Now Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.co.uk/updates/release.htm

>Newest Rebels Episode: "Legacy":

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B--x3TcdnpPjSGZEWnF0RkU2T2c/view?usp=sharing
https://mega.nz/#F!w5w3QQzS!kEXw8EpWWhF9izE5K2JpvQ

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrVry8kgyw

>Star Wars: Rebels MEGA (Season 1):
https://mega.co.nz/#F!UYQCwTwa!s-n8--buJPbauv6ylUo-DA

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy

>Star Wars: Uprising: (/co/ Cartel: Loth-Cats)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW6fOEvuSg

http://community.kabam.com/forums/showthread.php?568108-Newx-s-New-Player-Guide

>Star Wars: Commander (/co/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FXrcuPR4XQ

>All Canon Novels and Comics: (Including the Rebels UK Comics)
https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ

>Star Wars Audiobooks (Canon and Legends) and Motion Comics:
https://mega.nz/#F!w9tFCZxK!7zthk3nLz-0ATC9zxxEPuw

>Star Wars Legends Novels & Comics (Incomplete):
https://mega.nz/#F!AgVghZhQ!0SL9AVJvCbzUsRICuAoguQ
https://mega.nz/#F!j99HEbrC!GP5TSEEbrBYZIZ73xod4fg

>Canon Guide & Timeline:
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs

>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
starwars.booru.org

>Star Wars Soundtracks MEGA (Work-in-Progress):
https://mega.nz/#F!xocwwSiT!M8RpDwmmI37P24_TRzBKug
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First for the Empire
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First for "George Lucas, you were right all along" posting.
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First for the First Order
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Fourth for Snoke on the water having a psychic duel with Luke next episode.
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>>78253777
Yeah, giving the rights to Disney may have saved the franchise
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>New TIEs
now with a gunner, a pressurized cockpit, an ejection seat and a parachute.
>also it isn´t made from explodium
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>>78253868
And a wicked sweet new paint job.
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Xth for Phasma was a disappointment
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So what is going to happen with Kylo? Will he slowly turn to the light side, stay on the dark side and become even more cruel, or will he become an anti-hero?
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Was this month's Kanan really bad or something? Literally no one on the internet is discussing it.
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>>78253868
The second gunner is only on the spec ops version, not the standard. The First Order TIE fighter is the TIE/fo and the Imperial TIE fighter is TIE/ln.
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Monthly Reminder, the ones you loved are dead, and are never coming back.

P.S., they died for nothing.
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>>78253823
Erh, I will have to do with second order then.

>>78253845
Well, we already had fire in the skies in this one after all.
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>>78253887
Barring Saruman Tier deleted scenes, I refuse to believe she's actually dead.
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>>78253887
would've been cuter if the body type actually matchhed Gwen's

source?
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>>78253868
>isn´t made from explodium
Now it's just made from Flammableite.
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>>78253887
Just remember that Han was trash compacted first
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>Snoke is his real name
First Sheev now this shit who is in charge for these names do they secretly still let Lucas come up with them ?
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>>78253972
Maybe it was in the contract.
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Is Rey being Luke's daughter too obvious to be true?
Kylo seemed to recognize her
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>>78253946
http://i.imgur.com/uvpBQ12.jpg

the artist is SSOCRATES if you want to see more
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>>78254043
They're deliberately dangling it, but I'd be amazed if it wasn't true.
The Cinematography and the boatload of hints would make it a pretty ham handed red herring, and Finn proves they know how to handle red herrings well.
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>>78254043
Really the look on Luke's face at the end isn't just amazement that someone found him or that they brought him his lightsaber.
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>>78253891
Gotta put my money on falling deeper into the dark side.
You dont kill Motherfucking-Harrison ford and get away with it.
Best he can hope for is a last minute redemption. Considering how theyre already lifting from the OT, angsty teen vader might get one.
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>>78254219
I'd prefer Phasma and Hux to be redempted over him, he's didn't do the trick for me while Hux did and Phasma has the adventage of being played by an amazing actress. Also if stormtroopers are all indoctrinated it'd be easy to set up redemption for her.
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>>78253891
I'd personally like it if he and Rey swapped sides.

He's already clearly struggling with his emotions and isn't particularly well trained, and Snoke might manage to push him further away
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Looking back on all the fake rumors is fun.

>Rey is Han's daughter.

>Finn is Lando's son and a rebel spy.

>Dohmhall Gleeson is a comic relief cowardly inventor who keeps switching sides to save himself.

>Lupita N'yongo is a Luke's apprentice and Poe's lover.

>Gwendoline Christie is a sorceress who worships the Dark Side.

>Max Von Sydow is Rey's caretaker, a cyborg who collects artifacts connected to the Force.

>Kylo Ren is a X-Wing pilot who becomes obsessed with the Force and betrays the Rebels to join Snoke.

>Snoke is an powerful Sith Lord whose body was destroyed by Luke. However, He became one with the Force and has since been tormenting Luke into succumbing to the Dark Side, forcing Luke to exile himself, and also influencing the remnants of the Empire and seducing Kylo.

>Inquisitors armed with lightsabers dedicated to killing all Force-Sensitives.

>Jedi Hunters who artificially harness the Force and are loyal to the remnants of Empire.

>Blank lightsabers that change colors depending on its' wielder's alignment with the Dark Side or the Light.

>Han sacrificing himself to destroy the Starkiller Base by kamikazing it with the Millennium Falcon. His last words are "Never tell me the odds".
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so with the movie out im wondering
how worthwhile are this this and the Clone Wars show?
i fell of CW rather early and haven't seen any of this but
hey this is the EU now i should jump in at some point
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>>78254304
Rey falling to the Dark Side before coming back to the Light in the final film would be interesting. Like a condensed version of the 6 original films. Rey joining the Dark Side at the end of the next film would also be a good mirror for the Empire winning at the end of episode 5.

I don't think Rey really has the personality to fall to the Dark Side though. Although I guess Snoke could tempt her by offering her the power to save Finn's life.
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>>78254351

Clone Wars gets shockingly good after the first couple of seasons.

Rebels got good in the second half of the first season, second season started strong but has been doing episodic plots but the latest ep was pretty good.
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>>78253900
No, just the movie is drawing everyone's attention.
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>>78254323
You forgot

>Lupia N'Yongo plays Assajj Ventress
>Benedict Cumberbatch plays a young clone of Palpatine
>one of the villains is a descendant of count Dooku

To be fair this sounds less wild than what Jar Jar actually wanted Cumberbatch for.
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>>78254219
I disagree. He doesn't seem like a Vader at all and I don't think he will get a similar story arc. If he gets redemption, it will happen slowly over the whole trilogy and he will suffer more than Vader did. But unlike Vader he might survive and walk off into the unknown regions. If he doesn't get redemption, then he'll probably become the Big Bad and murder Snoke.
Whatever they do, it will be different to what Lucas did with Vader, because Kylo Ren is a completely different kind of character. He's a complex anti-villain who desperately wants to be a complete monster. We never had anything like that in Star Wars before which is awesome.
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>>78253887
This doesn't even try to look like Christie but whatever, there's very little decent Phasma content anyway
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>>78254433
>He's a complex anti-villain
How is he an anti villain? After all he's done he's just a straight up villain.
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This is Annikin, I've reached the sneaking point.
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>>78253868
>now with a gunner, a pressurized cockpit, an ejection seat and a parachute.
What about shields? Do they have shields?
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http://strawpoll.me/6291092

Reposting the poll.
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>>78254537
Why do you keep spamming this?
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>>78254537
But that's Kane
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>>78254433
While he has a degree of complexity, I'd hardly say he's an anti-villain
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Are they changing the standards on how deep into a gravity well you're allowed to safely enter and exit hyperspace now?

Are they also changing the standards on how planetary shields work?

I'm rather astounded that Starkiller Base wasn't escorted by Star Destroyers, did they not learn their lesson from the Death Star?
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>>78254601
>learn their lesson

The only thing they'll learn is to build an EVEN BIGGER Death Star, the Death Sun.
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>>78254433
I Still suspect that the rumour that he has to rely on old sith artifacts for power (maybe not completely, but partially) If you look at how he acts thoughout the movie, it screams -SELF ESTEEM ISSUES- which could definetly stem from him really just being average or below average with the force. Particularly his freeze move looks suspecious. Its an immensively powerful trick that we havent ever seen before, but he seems kind of underwhelming otherwise, you ?
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>>78254549
They do in X-wing, i think.
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>tfw no more Empire of the Hand
Unless Luke has actually been building his own Empire of the Hand populated exclusively by Jedi
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>>78254064
I always wanted Mighty Ducks porn
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>>78254433
>he doesn't seem like Vader at all
To me he seemed like more self-aware version of post-RotS Anakin
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>>78254631
I don't think he lacks power, I think he lacks skill.
All his moves were heavy handed but not at all subtle.
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>>78254601

Apparently their Destroyer in the movie was built in secret in violation of post-war laws so they probably don't have many of them.
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>>78254412
so i should watch em cool
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>>78254655

Playing the Imperial Civil War mod feels so shallow now ;_;
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>>78254700
Where did you get that? im genuinely interested. I spent a lot of the movie wondering how the hell things ended up the way they are, politically. And where things are taking place, geographically. Like is the Order in the outer rim? what happened to Corruscant?
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>>78254700
Does the New Republic not have many ISDs either?

I rather enjoy concept of the canon universe being one where the major difference is thanks to an early peace treaty everyone sensibly disarmed and there was a gradual climb-down over time of armaments so the conflicts become more local and sporadic.

It makes for a very large and obvious difference to Legends in which thanks to the lack of an early peace treaty the war just kept scaling up and up and up until by the time of the Yuuzhan Vong war there were Star Destroyers basically everywhere, and the NR had three whole fleet groups guarding Coruscant alone.
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>>78254631
He seems to be very powerful and he would've destroyed Finn and Rey if Chewbacca didn't shoot him before, so it's not that he's weak. But he is still inexperienced and he has basically zero self control while Rey can stay collected even in a stressful situation.
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It'd be great if the Republic/Resistence built their own super weapon in response to the First Order's.
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>>78254852
>Episode IX is Death Star to Death Star combat
>There's a beam clash
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>>78254700
>>78254819
I imagine they're in a cold war scenario that Starkiller Base was supposed to break.
Next episodes will probably be the rest of the galaxy turning on them, and Snoke/Luke taking a more personal role in it all.
Remember how hard Obi Wan got him when Alderaan got destroyed?
Imagine how Luke must have felt when The Senate Solar System got wiped out
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>in the EU years everyone was complaining about Imperial splinters and new Imperial superweapons so much that they brought the Yuuzhan Vong to change things up
>the new canon which is supposed to be a new beginning for Star Wars includes an Imperial superweapon built by an Imperial splinter
>everyone loves it anyway
Miss me yet?
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>>78254523
>>78254574
He is brutal and aggressive, but he was also being humanised from the very beginning. Did you notice how his behaviour changes whenever he doesn't wear his mask? He seems much more insecure and vulnerable whenever the mask is off, even in the scene where he kills Han
Although he's a cruel villain, we're supposed to relate to Kylo in a twisted way.
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>>78254852
Wasn't that in one of the early drafts? Where the lightsaber was basically a macguffin?
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>>78254907
I'd be amazed if they kept that scale of one upmanship.
Given that the First Order and resistance doesn't seem to have that big a fleet, it feels more like a one shot gamble.
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>>78254323
>Finn and Poe being Force-sensitive.

>The Rebels having a superweapon of their own.

>Luke being a cyborg after several battlefield injuries, more machine than man.

>Luke and Kylo harnessing so much are Force they level an entire planet in the wake of their duel.

>Rey/Poe.

>Rey/Finn.

>Phasma being obsessed with killing Finn, leadind to a fight between them.

>Hux being Palpatine's son and being betrayed and killed by Kylo for dismissing the Force.

>Chewbacca dies.
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>>78254942
I liked how he paid attention to Finn during the open scene and immediatly knew he was the one who had defected. It was nice having a leader who seemed to actually pay attention to his underlings.
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>>78254965
>The Rebels having a superweapon of their own

This was probably a real thing that got cut.
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>>78254978
He even knew that the soldier's "name" was FN-2187.
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Okay, it's really bothering me. Was I supposed to know who Max von Sydow's character was?
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>>78254798
>>78254819
>>78254893
http://imgur.com/a/o7sKV

They talk about the Star Destroyer on Ren's page.

It also says that there is a Republic Fleet and it's the strongest army in the galaxy, but it's a fraction of the old Republic's clone army in terms of strength. They also explain about the Republic senate scene, the world they destroyed was Hosnian Prime not Coruscant.
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>>78254965
>Phasma's face isn't shown because she's a droid
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>>78254978
>>78255020
I felt that the First Order cared more about it's troops than the Empire did. Plus I liked how Hux defended his Grandfather when Kylo mentions that they should have used clones trained from birth after Hux's men failed
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>>78255031
I wish Rebels was set between episode 6 - 7 to actually explain all this new stuff.
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>>78255028
For like 5 seconds I thought he was Obi-Wan projecting an illusion or something like that
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>>78255000
Yeah, it seems like they cut out many scenes and I really missed the scene of Kylo sitting in the Millenium Falcon that was in the MSW synopsis. That would have probably been very powerful, but I guess the plot was already too bloated.
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>>78255067
I wouldn't be surprised if that's when the next animated show takes place
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>>78255067
We will get another TV show soon enough, don't worry.
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Post your most ridiculous predictions for episodes 8 and 9.

A new clone army is made from Phasma
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>>78254907
Funny how Starkiller Base is basically a cross between various non-canon superweapons:

>Death Star
General shape and concept

>Star Forge
Power source

>Eye of Palpatine
Looks like a celestial body (asteroid/planet)

>Darksaber
It's a crude North Korean knockoff of a Death Star

>Centerpoint Station
Delivers a beam through hyperspace
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>>78255154
A red wedding-like scene where Leia, Luke, Chewie, C-3PO and R2D2 suddenly get killed off.
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>>78255154
Luke has already trained a whole planetful of Jedi
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>>78255154
Luke performing bare handed Saber blocks.
Revelation that Luke hid away because he didn't trust himself not to go absolutely batshit insane when he gets revenge of Snoke.
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>>78255154
Phasma is relevant and wins a hand to hand fight
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>>78255154
Rey turns to the dark side and Kylo turns to the light side. Kylo kills Rey and becomes a main protagonist in the next trilogy.
It's not impossible, but I would be seriously surprised if they actually did something like that.
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Kylo really missed a chance to point out that Rey was fighting with her aggressive feelings and that was the path to power.

I suppose he's just not that good with the dark side.
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>>78255280

So you want the ending of Rob Roy but with lightsabers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27M5KWI_q50
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>>78255154

Sexy female Sith. Preferably played by a double-jointed acrobat.
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>>78255031
Huh, so Zuvio IS a Kyuzo.
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>>78255031
>http://imgur.com/a/o7sKV
Thanks anon, this post is SUPER useful!
it solved a lot of my confusion.
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>>78255154
Rey is the daughter of Luke and the Force
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>>78255280
I wouldn't mind a character using the Force to catch a Lightsaber blade. They're not actually touching the blade, but just keeping it a tiny fraction away from touching them.
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>>78255361
The fuck is that supposed to work.
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>>78255031
>The New Republic did not settle on Coruscant. Instead, its capital shifts across member worlds by a process of election.
This sounds incredibly inefficient. The infrastructure of the bureaucracy needed to govern a galaxy of billions of worlds surely is not so easy to uproot and move every few years.
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>>78255407
Luke fucked the force lady from that Clone Wars episode everyone tries to forget about, duh
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>>78255361
>>78255407

>It's like the last Codex Alera book and the manifestation of great power is a hot chick
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>>78255310
I'd love for this to happen, but I really think they'll play it safe for the next two.
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>>78255417

It's probably a great way to make the alien worlds feel important though.

"Hey guys, we're the republic, but we want you to know that we're not some faraway uncaring assholes, so we're going to come and have our sessions on your planet!"

And this is Star Wars, so they could probably have just strapped rockets and a hyperdrive to the senate building or something.
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>>78255471
>so they could probably have just strapped rockets and a hyperdrive to the senate building or something.

Episode IX is the Senate building vs the Sphere of Fear
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>>78255322
More like Luke looks like he's going to pull an Obi Wan, but grabs the blade with the force before it hits him.
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>>78255471
>And this is Star Wars, so they could probably have just strapped rockets and a hyperdrive to the senate building or something.

Oh great now I have the image of the hover platforms on the senate rocketing through space.
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>>78255407
Luke lets the force flows through him. He jizzes on the floor and decides to clean it later. It ends up growing into a baby
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>>78255417
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>>78255407
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>>78253887
Everytime I see that symbol, all I can think of is "barbed cock ring"
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>>78255235
a-and maybe one of them is just a guy with a lightsaber and a few questions?
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>>78253694
>rebels don't surf
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>>78255545
Anti rape device for female Storm Troopers makes sense.
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Weird that they finally found Luke at the end and only Rey and Chewbacca and R2 went there. Leia didn't want to drop by and say hi? They didn't think they might need to bring some X-wing escorts since they have no idea what dangers are lurking in the Unknown Regions?
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So do you reckon that the Knights are going to job when they turn up, be presented as a threat to normies but not force sensitives, or are they going to be a legit threat to all concerned?
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>X-wings get sent to strike a high value target and get massacred
Should have sent B-wings or A-wings.
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>>78255705
They'll be villains for Finn, Poe, Chewie and other normies to fight.
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>>78255629
Leia probably has duties.
Or maybe she feels guilty for not nurturing her own talents and helping him out.
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>>78255724
Yeah, using an A-Wing as a manned cruise missile to take down a high value target has worked before.
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Were there any Bothans in this movie? Aside from the Mon Cal at the strategy meeting and that weird new long-faced alien in Poe's squadron I'm having trouble remembering if I saw any other alien Rebels at all.
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>>78255154
Since we're talking about rebel's superweapons...
Leia get the command Alderaan's Will, a powerful terraforming tools made to give a new home to the victims of war(s) or to fix planets that have been ravaged by them. Used on a inhabited world however...
But with the threat of the First Order, the temptation is great to use it to destroy their Bastion and end this war already. How many worlds we won't have to rebuild by destroying a single one?
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>>78255705
Actually, it would be an interesting thought if the Knights of Ren were were padawan level at best when alone but when grouped together they become a legitimate threat
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>>78255724

Apparently those Rebel troop transports are built from cannibalized B-Wings.

>>78255805

There was a Sullustan in the X-Wing squadron, and plenty of aliens in the base shot, especially near the end.
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>>78255805
That was Admiral Ackbar. Tien Numb was also in Poe's squadron and I think there some others scattered around the Rebel headquarters.
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>>78255417
>The European Parliament has three places of work – Brussels (Belgium), the city of Luxembourg (Luxembourg) and Strasbourg (France). Luxembourg is home to the administrative offices (the 'General Secretariat'). Meetings of the whole Parliament ('plenary sessions') take place in Strasbourg and in Brussels. Committee meetings are held in Brussels.
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What was up with that asian girl pilot that kept opening her mouth to say something but never had any lines?
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>>78255740
She probably feel guilt for her son massacring his students
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>>78255878
Yeah, but those are in established fixed locations. They don't have to keep picking up everything and moving it to some new place every now and again.
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>>78254819
By making peace with the Empire and disarming the New Republic is really just saying "fuck you I got mine" to the planets still suffering under Imperial rule aren't they? Somewhat contradicts their original intention to free the galaxy from the Imperial yoke.
It's not like both the NR and the Empire are holding superweapons and the threat of mutual assured destruction is maintaining the cold war. If the NR had the upper hand their ideals should have demanded they press their advantage, if the Empire had the upper hand their system would demand the same.
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>>78255888
> "Ms Solo, I'm calling about your son. We have some troubles with him at school..."
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>Luke, a trained Jedi, couldn't stop Vader from reading his mind to find out about Leia
>Rey, a scavenger with no training, easily repulsed Kylo's attempts to get a picture of the map from her head
JJ pls
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Miss me yet?
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>>78255951
Luke was inches away from losing his shit, mostly self trained and Vader was one of the most powerful Force users who ever lived,
Rey is untrained, but Kylo quite clearly is too in regards to anything subtle.

It's barely an apt comparison, m8
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>>78255951
girl power
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>>78256008
if the movie is pushing a girl power agenda why does Phasma die in such an embarassing way?
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Anyone else like how much "weight" they managed to impart to blasters and lightsabers? Prequel lasers and sabers felt comparatively light.
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>>78256045
No, because lack of weight in the prequels is the only thing that let Jedi make sense in a galaxy where laser guns are a thing.
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>>78256076
>laser guns
it's plasma, they shoot plasma
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>>78255951
She reminds me of how Ezra is with the force.
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>>78256125
Im pretty sure that if she doesnt turn out to be Lukes there might be some sort of nod that her father is Ezra somehow!
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>>78255952
No
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>>78256045
Yes, gave the action scenes a more realistic feeling. I also really liked the lightsaber battle, but Rey should have gotten some scars at least.
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So I just read The Crimson Corsair and the Lost Treasure of Count Dooku short story. When does this take place? Before or after Endor? It would kind of be cool if Kix is still running around with Sidon Ithano even if he was biologically ancient
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>>78256155
haven't they already said that the show will have little to no connection with the new movies?
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Do Stormtroopers all train to fight with vibroblades? Only explanation I can think of for a guy who works in sanitation to be able to handle a saber. At least Rei is experienced in fighting with a staff.
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>>78254323
>le baby girl

How did people feel about it anyway?

I'd been looking forward to it, then a combination of spoilers and reviews branding it a 'rehash' really brought me down right before attending a midnight release screening here in the UK with my bros - I ended up expecting to hate it.

Poe giving BB-8 the map (Death Star Plans) really had me rolling my eyes, but in the end I came around to actually appreciating the way they used so many original trilogy setpieces with different spins, showing history repeating itself, establishing the new leads while having the older characters react in different ways.

Got home at 4AM, woke up today and on a whim went to see it again with two of the three same bros at the first daytime showing in my hometown, actually appreciated it a lot more the second time since I could focus on how the story was told rather than trying to pick out differences and details about the new 30-years-down-the-line state of the universe.

I'm so glad there wasn't a bullshit 'No, I am your son,' reveal or anything, which is what the spoilers had made me expect and worry about. In a way, knowing about Han's death made it even more tragic.
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So, like, when the ground collapsed and separated Ray and Kylo, did Rey not have her blaster anymore? She could have shot him easily.
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>>78256388
I think executing him would have undermined the 'jedi path' thing.

Although that would have been more then justified
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>>78256388

She dropped it when she got knocked out and then diddn't pick it up after she force grabbed the sabre
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I have a feeling swtor inspired a robot in the castle in the force awakens. Go look up Scorpio in swtor and look at the robot in related picture. They look really similar.
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it troubles me what is kylo's real name. they never called him by his true name they just called him son of is hie real name kylo
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>>78256042
Because Hollywood hates tall girls :(
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>>78256388
That would have been hilariously anticlimactic.
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>>78256370
I liked the fact that they didn't try to drag out the Father/Son thing, and that they left Rey's parentage a mystery.
A heavily hinted mystery, but one nontheless
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>>78256497
Jacen, his name is Jacen Solo.
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>>78256370

Yeah honestly the movie has a hell of a lot of similarities to ANH but frankly that's okay, because Star Wars came out in the 70s and most of the audience of this one are kids now. It's alright to reuse ideas and reintroduce them to a new generation, frankly as time goes by the chance of them sitting through the originals will go down.
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>>78256495
Eh not really seeing a direct influence.
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>>78256042
Wait she dies? I don't remember seeing her die, or was that throw away trash compacter line what your talking about
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>>78256497

His real name is Ben. Han yells it on the bridge.
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Did they not explain enough in this movie?

Like the background of the First Order, New Republic, or Resistance? I felt like I didn't know jack fuck about what was going on in the galaxy
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>>78256506
one day she'll shine in something that's not GoT... r-right? ;_;
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>>78256495

>Pazaak

Also one of the senators is labelled as being from Taris.
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>>78256558
I thought he was shouting REN
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>>78256558
It's so weird for Han and Leia to name their kid after Obi-Wan when Luke is the only one who really knew him.
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>>78256605
He was a good friend to Bail though.
Luke is also probably his Godfather.
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>>78256519
Exactly. It was more an inversion of Jedi's Luke/Vader moment in that Ren did the opposite of redeeming himself by saving Luke - rather than what I was worried about, that it'd just be a simple reversed father/son reveal from Empire.

>>78256539
Yeah, to be honest it really takes elements from the OT as a whole rather than just ANH - it's a pretty simple way of establishing "right, THIS is what Star Wars is," to normies who maybe caught one of the prequels in theaters or on TV but (rightfully) got bored by their meandering and put off the franchise.

Makes sense to get "JJ the reboot man" for this instalment, then hopefully we can see some cool new stuff in the next two episodes and anthology movies.
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>lil sister had never seen OT until a month ago
>She would always say she didn't like SW just to spite me
>show her IV on thanksgiving weekend
>she likes it
>Says she really wants to know what happens next
>show her V couple of days ago, and VI just last night
>live in San Diego, so cross the border at noon to see a 1:30 pm showing of the movie down in Mexico
>I tell her I'm gonna cry when the big SW logo comes out in the beginning
>I do
>tells me "aww don't cry"
>she is really digging the movie
>then we get to the part where Han dies, and she just starts weeping like a baby
>I could see it comming and I'm just like there there with water in my own eyes
>maximum light and dark pottery in that scene btw


Anyways, rank movies like this now that I've seen it

V>IV=VII>VI>III>II>>>>>>>>>>I

also, mfw the entire movie
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>>78256677
Shit, forgot to toggle my spoiler tags. Oh well.
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>>78256712

I took my kid cousin to the premiere in Australia, he had a great time. There were plenty of kids there, including a little girl wearing a Stormtrooper mask, that was pretty cute.
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>>78254655
Does the new movie contradict Thrawn trilogy?

I know Thrawn is no longer canon, but does anything actually happen in TFA that contradicts it?
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>>78256775

You could probably squeeze a modified version in since the Empire still breaks up into factions.
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>>78256812
That's what I assumed. If you changed the names of the twins in The Last Command, it could probably still work.
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>>78256712

IV>V>VI=VII*>II>I>III

It's hard to put VII up there with the OT since they're never going to be quite as iconic and change things the way those movies did, but putting those things aside, from a storytelling point of view, Awakens has much better pacing throughoutI (between Jabba's palace and the Battle of Endor, things drag quite a bit), even if Jedi's peaks are higher.

The prequels are hard to rank. III goes at the bottom for me personally just because it's way darker than I think Star Wars should really get (Anakin slaughtering children makes it hard for me to accept his "redemption" in VI - even if his involvement with the Death Star has a higher bodycount, you don't see those on screen directly), however it also has the dankest memes so it's difficult
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>>78256908
>it also has the dankest memes
Here's a Christmas related one
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>>78256908
>ranking 3 as worst
i know is your opinion but damn, your opinion is shitty as fuck
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>>78256951
'tis the season then?
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>>78256908
>rating II more highly than I and III
>rating IV more highly than V
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>>78256775

The New Republic never claims Coruscant. It's capital is and always was Chandrila.

As such, that whole subplot with the spy trees? No good. Anything that depends on the New Republic being on Coruscant just gets fucked in general.

Also, all the chronology regarding the Empire's relationship with Honoghr was already fucked by the prequels moving the Clone Wars and the birth of the Empire forward considerably.
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>>78256558
are you sure i also thought he shouted ren
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>>78256908
Hopefully VII gives us new dank memes.
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>yfw somehow just found out this was a thing

Holy shit.

Are they fun to play as in this?
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>>78256967
Did you ever hear the story of Rudolf the Reindeer? I thought not. It's not a story the Jews would tell you. It's a Christmas legend. Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer was a reindeer with a shiny nose so bright he could use the light to direct Santa's sleigh to deliver...presents. He had such a shiny nose that he could even keep the ones he cared about cheerful on Christmas day. Christmas magic is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. His nose became so bright...the only thing he feared was the other reindeer laughing and calling him names, which eventually, of course, they did. Unfortunately, the other reindeer wouldn't let him join in any reindeer games, then Santa hired him to guide his sleigh. It's ironic. The other reindeer rejected him, but not Santa Claus.
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>>78257033
Once /tv/ has got the shitposting out of their system, they might get round to it.
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>>78257058
We can only hope.
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>>78256998
>It's capital is and always was Chandrila.

I've not seen the movie, but does it absolutely state that they never got Coruscant back? Not even for a while?
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>>78253694
>Get to see Imperial Mandalore and Ryloth
Yes please

>"the confrontation" is coming
DARTH
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>>78256998
>>78257087
Read the text, it'll explain.
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>>78257058
really hoping for a big guy mutation with Phasma
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>>78257087
Not in the movie. Chandrila, as Mon Mothma's home world, was designated the capital of the New Republic in the novel Aftermath. According to the Visual Dictionary, after the Battle of Jakku (a little more than a year after Endor), the Empire and the New Republic struck up a Galactic Concordat, setting operational boundaries; the Empire mostly stayed in the Core and Inner Rim, while the New Republic takes the Mid Rim and Outer Rim Territories. The First Order comes from a group of Imperials who went off into the Unknown Regions, essentially they're the Empire of the Hand version 2.0.
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>>78257045

SoulCalibur IV was kind of a misfire in general, as the SoulCalibur series goes.

You'll trash the AI's shit with Yoda from here to Coruscant, but if you try to take him against a human opponent of any decent skill he's basically garbage.

Vader's almost the reverse of Yoda that way. Struggles against the AI (which I'm sure must be cheating...or maybe I just really suck) but is upper-mid tier competitively.

Starkiller's somewhere in-between.

I can't really recommend it unless you absolutely must have a fighting game with lightsabers.

It's a hell of a lot better than Masters of Teras Kasi or TCW: Lightsabers Duels, though. It's bad for a SoulCalibur game, but it's all right in a general sense.
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>>78257145
Interesting. I suppose if you tortured the lore a little, you could claim that Coruscant had been selected as the capital by process of election for the period in which Thrawn trilogy takes place, but that it was changed because of protests by disaffected systems. This sort of aligns with the Thrawn trilogy, because in the first chapter with Luke in it, he says that setting up government in the former Imperial Palace gets the symbolism "all wrong". But that's admittedly just wishful thinking on my part.
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>>78256982
II has some hilarious lines, and is genuinely awful throughout, whereas I is not only bad but boring - there's about an hour after the podrace where fucking nothing happens.

I don't necessarily think II is better made, but it's more fun to watch with ur cheeky m8s.

I also prefer IV since the original Star Wars has a greater significance as a film, what it changed about Hollywood, George's struggles to get it made, the fact that every sign pointed towards it being a disaster yet one of the most significant films of the 20th century was salvaged from the troubled production.

V is great, and it's probably a better piece of drama, it's probably the best 'Star Wars film,' but as a film academic I just find IV to be more fascinating, particularly since it's the only one of the original trilogy which George directed himself, the way he recasts John Ford Westerns and Kurosawa Samurai movies into this grand retelling of Campbell's Hero's Journey. It's absolutely beautiful.
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>>78256812
Disney needs to get Zahn to write a new Thrawn Trilogy set in the new canon.
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>>78257300

In the new canon, the Imperial Palace is what used to be the Jedi Temple.

The symbolism is still all wrong, but for very different reasons.
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>>78257342
An second edition of Thrawn would probably do the trick.
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>>78257359
>In the new canon, the Imperial Palace is what used to be the Jedi Temple.

i hate it
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>>78257145
This is beyond crap.

A facist system of government and a Republic can't co-exist like this. Logically, both systems of government would find themselves drawn to war, and in the context of basically the everything we have seen from the movies, this is some revisionist stuff.

So the Rebellion signed a truce with the remnants of the empire. The most bloody regime imaginable, whose officer corps is compromised mostly of war criminals, and they just let them go. Let them go, rather, with a chunk of the galaxy to govern, or rather genocide and exploit for resources to build massive weapons of mass destruction which are to be turned on the Republic in due course.

This makes no sense. None. Neither side gain from this. Is it just so JJ can make a group called "the resistance" again? It is, isn't it.
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>>78257359
>In the new canon, the Imperial Palace is what used to be the Jedi Temple.
Why in gods name would a sith lord want to do this. He fucking hates the Jedi, why would he just take over their temple without melting it down first.
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>>78257390

You realize this is just like how the UN tolerates current-world regimes that are awful, right?
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>>78257427
Because he knows every time he takes a shit, he's shitting all over the remnants of his enemies.
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>>78257427

So that he can shit in every single Council member's personal bathroom at least once a day.

Also because there's actually an ancient Sith shrine deep beneath the Temple that the Jedi never knew about.
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>>78257467
There is a difference. This would be like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union not only fighting world war 2, but one side winning, then the other tolerating the others existence.
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>>78257390
I have to agree to some degree. The whole point of the Rebellion was to overthrow the Empire. Why stop then?
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>>78257467
>You realize this is just like how the UN tolerates current-world regimes that are awful, right?
The UN's entire goal goal is to maintain peace, not overthrow a specific government.
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>>78257390
It's pretty bad. inb4 somebody compares it to the Soviet Union. This doesn't work, because the Soviets fought a war with the West against a common enemy, so they had strong diplomatic ties in the period immediately following WWII. Both West/East were united by a desire to create a stable post-war world. The same dynamic wouldn't exist between a totalitarianism that regards the rebels as illegitimate terrorists and the rebels who are nursing wounds and grudges formed over generations.
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>>78257390

According to the EU the Empire collapsed into warring factions. The Republic has a powerful defense fleet that's stronger than the Empire, so by signing a treaty with them they're essentially letting the remains kill themselves off.

The First Order is basically just a terrorist organization.
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>>78257501

What do you think the cold war was, anon? Not to mention all the shit that's happened after that.
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>>78257501
That literally happened.
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>>78257390
>A fascist system of government and a Republic can't co-exist like this.
Why not?
>both systems of government would find themselves drawn to war
Which will most likely happen now that the republics fleet has been destroyed
>with a chunk of the galaxy to govern
A chunk that was pretty loyal to the empire
>Neither side gain from this
Empire can recover after losing several high-ranking admirals. Rebel Alliance can consolidate their power and catch their breath.
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>>78257585
The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was pre-ww2. Just imagine the two actually fighting the war, millions of deaths, the crimes, etc, THEN they sign a peace treaty.
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>>78257563
>According to the EU the Empire collapsed into warring factions.
The EU isnt canon, mate
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>>78257620
I mean the new one.
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>>78257596
>Why not?
Facist governments always dissolve into foreign expansion. Logically, the empire remnants would always strive to govern the galaxy, not whatever backwater they were exiled to.

>loyal to the empire chunk
Why leave a rump state, where it can rebuild, rearm and then threaten the galaxy again? And they clearly made incursions into republic space

>consolidate their power
By letting their greatest enemies live? Then sponsoring a resistance which undermines their own peace treaty.
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>>78257627
So, currently, then does the New Republic hold the Core worlds?
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>>78257596
>why not
see >>78257545
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>>78257596

>New Republic is most likely completely wiped out with the destruction of the Hosnian system
>First Order had their main base destroyed, but much of their leadership has escaped.

We're going to get AotC Mk.2, mark my words.

Hopefully without the awful directing and writing.
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>>78257672
I haven't read that much of the new EU, so I'm trusting
>>78257168
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>>78257698
The Republic moves capitals so they're likely not completely wiped out.
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>>78257666
>Facist governments always dissolve into foreign expansion. Logically, the empire remnants would always strive to govern the galaxy, not whatever backwater they were exiled to.
Why couldn't they just do that in secret and with a lot of plotting? I mean, that's what the First Order has started to do in TFA
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>>78257585
Stalin only agreed to the non-aggression pact because the West refused to deal with Hitler. Stalin had been pleading for an anti-Hitler alliance for a long time. Hitler was seen as a way to contain the Soviets by some powerful people in the West, but then he became an even bigger problem and only then did the West intervene. Molotov-Ribbentrop was self-preservation on Stalin's part and would inevitably collapse. Everybody recognized that. You couldn't have built a Cold War style coexistence on it.
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>>78257733

Of course, but you can see how the rest of the galaxy would see this as weakness on the part of the Republic.
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>>78257168
So does that mean that the Empire exists in some form as well alongside the New Republic and the First Order? If they do, I wonder if they still use the original Stormtrooper armour?
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>>78257168
What happened at jakku where the empire and New Republic struck a truce? Must have been hardcore for both sides to concede.

>Empire stayed in the Core and Rim, New Republic takes mid Rim and Outer Rim

I call complete bullshit on this. Both sides claim to govern the galaxy- only one can. With the rebellion, can they seriously claim to be champions for democracy and peace whilst Billions suffer under the Imperial rule? And the Empire would never allow itself to lose the Mid and Outer Rim by diplomacy, they'd have to be militarily destroyed before they would compromise like that. And at that point they'd be so weakened as to be vulnerable enough to collapse, so why even bother with a truce?
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>>78257811
The First Order is the last remnant left I believe.
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>>78257745
The Rebels would know that it how the empire operates. By just letting a section go, they are asking to be attacked down the line in a few years.

The only calculation that makes sense was that the rebels were too weak, and needed to re-stock before expanding again. But the way this is phrased suggests the Rebels don't intend to actually liberate the galaxy, just the bits of it which matter politically to the members of the rebel alliance itself. Hardly the heroes they've been portrayed to be.
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>>78257698
You mean attack of republic strike back.
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>>78257698
>>New Republic is most likely completely wiped out with the destruction of the Hosnian system
Why.....

VI actually for nothing.
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>>78257873
>Hardly the heroes they've been portrayed to be
It makes it more interesting though
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>>78257698
>completely wiped out

Nah, they are like the Empire, too massive to be destroyed in one take-down. Although TFA is pretty shit when it comes to explaining basically anything about what is going on outside of the main characters
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>>78257903
You think this will be explored with ANY significance? Its just an excuse as to why their are a group of 'rebels' going up against evil imperials again, instead of massive fleet to fleet combat that should be happening.

This coming from a setting which can't actually explain where humans come from and why they mostly populate the galaxy
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>>78257666
>..not whatever backwater they were exiled to.
Which is what the First Order is doing.
>Why leave a rump state, where it can rebuild, rearm and then threaten the galaxy again?
I think that you're really overestimating the Rebel fleet at the end of ROTJ.
>Then sponsoring a resistance which undermines their own peace treaty
What is a Cold War, Trebek?
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I want a badass Ewok to show up in the sequel series
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>>78258002
>that's what the first order is doing
Why in gods name they are being allowed to exist in the first place if the Rebels/Republic KNOW they are doing it is my contention.

>over-estimating the fleet
I have no idea what happened then. None, and TFA doesn't have shit either. So I can't really claim anything about this.
>Cold War, Trebek
It's not cold if you flat out just support them, so much that your opponent KNOWS your doing it. Cold wars are mostly through spies, intelligence etc. At most you have proxy wars, but the Resistance isn't a proxy, its basically an armed wing of the Republic. It loses its value of...whatever its actual purpose is (defeating the First order?)
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Will Episode VIII be the Finn/Poe bromance power hour?

It should be.
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>>78258159
It will be Mary sue (ray) learning how to solve all her problems by hitting them hard with a saber
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>>78257820
After Endor, the Empire started falling apart left and right, by about three months later a few of the leaders convene an emergency session to figure out what the fuck they're going to do to try and salvage things (the plot of Aftermath involves this).

At Jakku, the Imperial remnant(s) dedicate a huge portion of their fleet to the battle. It gets rekt hard by the New Republic fleet, losing what is potentially their only remaining SSD.

Lost Stars covered some of the Battle of Jakku, but only just a small portion of it showing an Imperial captain get her ship wrecked and boarded right before it starts to fall to the planet. I'd assume the final book of the Aftermath trilogy will show the battle in more detail.
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>>78258159
That and the "Luke wrecks shit and shows what a Jedi can really do" would make for an actually good movie.
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>>78258159
>Will Episode VIII be the Finn/Poe bromance power hour?

I hope so. From my second viewing, their relationship was one of my favourites in the movie.

I just love all the shit with Rebel pilots in any of the movies.

Really disappointed that Rogue One isn't going to be some kind of Top Gun Rogue Squadron movie, though I imagine it'll still have some cool ship stuff.
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So if Kylo has Vader's head does that mean he went full Skywalker on an Ewok village?
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>>78257087

No im pretty sure they did take Coruscant but it's not the capital, it's just the most populated planet and stuff.
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Ren's angsty unstable school-shooter vibe really worked, his clear insecurity made him seem really unpredictable. He's what prequel Anakin should have been tbqh familia.
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>>78253823
You fucked up again, Kylo
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>>78253959
Yeah, but not while the Death Star was exploding
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>>78258364
Is Kylo a Supreme Gentleman to Snoke's Supreme Leader?
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>>78257698

Devestated yes, they lost their current capital and they might face ANOTHER Seperatist crisis given that they look weak. But it's going to take a whole lot more to destroy a whole galactic government.

Much more likely, they'll be going full on the war path "The Republic Strikes Back"
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>>78254390
>>78254304
>Kylo getting completely cucked by the Dark Side
>has to cry home to mommy

Perfect
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>>78254433
>suffer more than Vader did

Yeah. No. He still has a mom. And all his limbs. And working lungs.
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>>78258536
he also hasn't been soul-molested by sheev
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What's Snoke like?
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>>78258600
PLAGUEIS
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>>78258600

He's fucking huge. But he might just be normal since it's a hologram. Seems like a pretty chill, hands-off guy.
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>>78258657
He's not a keikaku man?
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>>78258254
Probably. Maybe we'll see it in some future comic or TV show. I hope the Knights of Ren have massacred some gungans too.
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>>78258704
some men are so keikaku they can afford to play it cool

sheev was enthusiastic about scheming, but his was a youthful enthusiasm

snoke plays the long game
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>>78258364
He's my new favourite villain. Probably the best acting I've ever seen in Star Wars. Glad, they didn't kill him off.
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>>78258199
Of fuck, it is actually just going to LoK...
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>MFW most normies think it was Coruscant the planet that got destroyed by starkiller
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Glad I didn't buy that Phasma figure.

What a waste of a cool design.
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>>78256908
>III goes at the bottom for me personally just because it's way darker than I think Star Wars should really get (Anakin slaughtering children makes it hard for me to accept his "redemption" in VI

That's why Luke forgiving him is so fantastic. Because Vader thinks he doesn't deserve to be saved. The Emperor believes that he doesn't deserve to be be saved. Most of Luke's allies believe he doesn't deserve to be saved. But Luke does. And that's why he won:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-HFv6Ms1lw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuPe-ly0BHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RFYoZ7H67A

Vader turned himself into a monster because he was trapped by shame and self-loathing. Then his son, who he maimed, frees him.

Also, let me get this straight. An entire planet getting destroyed in a callous act of mass murder is a-okay in your book, while a room full of kids getting killed is going too far? And you have issues with the "Sith Win" movie being dark? What? Did you want sugar and rainbows to flood the stars while the My Little Pony theme blares out ad nauseum?
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>>78259267
Not that anon, but when you have the phrase "killing younglings" as a way to cover up "killing children" then you have some seriously dark stuff. My complaint would be that kids were actively marketed towards in Phantom and Clone wars, so the tonal shift was odd. Artistically it makes sense, but it was abrupt.
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Why is it that nobody in the movie seems to give a shit about what happened to the Hosnian system? The senate just got wiped out, hundreds of billions of lives were lost. Leia should be going fucking berserk that another Alderaan just happened and nobody seems to care. What the hell man, that's fucked up. I really hope we get a book that deals with the consequences of this event.
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>>78259386
I think if someone dropped a rock on Washington DC most people would be ok
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>>78259267
That is why Luke is the best character in all of Star Wars.
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>>78259386
Star wars has always been shit with people dealing with death. Han died, Leia moved on WITHIN the same movie, you can find examples of this throughout SW.

>>78259397
2 buildings in New York went down and shit hit the fan for fucking years, you think if DC went down people would be fine?
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>>78259397
Destroying a building isn't the same as destroying a star system, most victims weren't politicians.
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>>78259035
>mfw explaining to normies that coruscant wasn't destroyed will become the new explaining to normies that stormtroopers aren't clones in the OT
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>>78259386

Why is it that only Spock seemed to give a shit after Vulcan got destroyed in Star Trek 2009?

Answer: because JJ is a fucking hack.
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>>78259386
Just like when the Death Star destroyed Alderaan in ANH. Leia even lost her family and she didn't seem to care at all. You can't put too much emotion and character development into a 2 hour adventure movie, especially not when it's as fast paced as ANH and TFA.
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>>78259670
That's a really bad excuse.
>oh, but it's supposed to be shitty!
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>>78259386
Let's hope that the novelization does a better job explaining things than the film does
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>>78255060
>>78255060
Is she not? Her voice sounds a lot more clear through her helmet.
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>>78259670
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix5h-hZfLTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuebj4kVOy4
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>>78259785
>The book is better than the movie

JJ can't be this much of a hack can he?
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>>78259844
Yes, everybody here knows.
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>>78259841
Well the ROTS book made the film better, so I'm hoping for something like that
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>>78259844
Snape kills Dumbledore
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>>78256008
>Skywalker power :^)
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so that guy kylo stabbed in the flashback definitely was alien and looked like he had a lightsaber.
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>>78256125

Ezra got his lightsaber pulled out of his fuking hands when he went up against a trained force user for the first time.

You're that same idiot that keeps making this comparison.
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>>78260018
Yes, they slaughtered Luke's academy, of course they'd have lightsabers.
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>>78257058
>We'll use the force.
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TFA was too similar to ANH, but it made everything that happened in ANH look better because of newer CG and cinematic ability. I can't wait for the books going over the time skip and the events just after the movie.
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>>78260100
>but it made everything that happened in ANH look better because of newer CG and cinematic ability
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>>78260082
The more I watch the movie the more I like Finn.
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>>78257427
Sheev also digs pottery.
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>>78254143
I hated that whole scene. It was too long and shot badly.
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>>78256125

Ezra's extreme bursts of power come unbidden in moments of extreme emotion. He's very strong but has very little control, because he started very late by Jedi standards and is burdened by all the problems that come with years of life outside a sheltered temple environment.

THAT makes sense.

Rey suddenly being at least as good with the Force as Obi-Wan was in The Phantom Menace after literal decades of training, not so much.
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>>78260100
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>>78260100
>but it made everything that happened in ANH look better because of newer CG and cinematic ability.
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>>78260052

So, that settles that. Ren and Knights were able to slaughter a shit-ton of FULL GROWN Jedi. And they were vastly outnumbered too.
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>>78258159
I was expecting them to kiss honestly.
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>first Star Wars film in 10 years
>just as bad as the prequels

How fucking unpredicted
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So who was the old guy at the beginning of TFA? He knew of Luke and referred to Leia as Princess, implying that he was from their past somehow.
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>>78260185
Yes, JJ is a hack, you should've seen this coming.
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>>78260200
nice meme
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>>78254043
A powerful force user who grew up on a desert world and just happens to come into possession of Anakin's lightsaber. I seriously doubt that's just a coincidence.
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>>78260210
Lor San Tekka, aka Max von Sydow's completely wasted role.

He's not appeared in anything other than TFA.
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>>78260210
He's Ben reincarnated. He found the whole "dying again" routine pretty annoying since he'll have to look for another body to possess I mean another completely willing donor, yes.
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>>78260185
>And they were vastly outnumbered too.
How do we know that there weren't other Knights that Luke/the other Jedi killed?
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Those special effects are god-tier

that last dogfight was amazing, all those in cockpit camera shots and pilot POVs made the movie for me
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>>78260247

We don't. But in the end does it really matter? They slaughtered the Jedi and Luke is the last one while we know there are multiple Knights left as well as Kylo and Snoke.
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>dreaming about standing in line for movie because I have boring dreams
>Some neckbeard is complaining that they didn't base the movies off the legacy books
>Give into my anger
>Spoil what character isn't returning next movie
>He starts to cry
>Collect his tears to power planet destroying super-weapon built by space tentacle rape monster eons ago

Who else darkside here?
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This movie was literally just as bad as the prequels. Once the hype wears off, you guys will realize.
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>>78255951
>Vader
vs
>Wanna-be edgelord
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>>78260299
>finn is introduced
>loudly whisper:
>"Did Lando get hit on the back of his head or something? why is the lower half of his face so forward?"
>some laughs and gasps

Not my best but I was content with it.
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>>78260100
>but it made everything that happened in ANH look better because of newer CG and cinematic ability
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>>78260293
I don't really care about Han dying seeing as Ford wanted him dead since V but I swear if they end up killing Luke "Stood up to the two most powerful Sith ever" Skywalker for some more forced dramatic BS...
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>>78260317
Nice meme
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Just got back from my theater. I loved the movie.

The new cast didnt feel forced and Fin was incredibly good.

The old cast was important but they didnt overshadow the new cast at all. Fin stole every scene he was in.

Plot was a little short but the film did what it needed to. Set itself up for the next films. I honestly left the theater wanting more star wars. I can't believe I have to wait for the next movie to come out.

I want new star wars games/comics/rpgs/everything set in this timeline so bad.

Overall I give the movie an 8 out of 10. I can't wait to see the sequal.
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>>78260392
>for some more forced dramatic BS...

It's called good storytelling, you fucking mongoloid. Killing Han was necessary because his arc was finished and new characters like Poe wouldn't get any screen time if Han was still around in Episode VIII. Luke and Leia will die too, sooner or later.
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>>78258657
His fucked up face really reminded me of Azog
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>>78260338
To be fair at his age Anakin was also a wanna-be edgelord
>>78260341
Nice racism, try again Kylo
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>>78260433
it's forced drama
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>>78260396
He's absolutely right though, it may be better ftom a technical standpoint but it's just as bad in everything else, especially in how it deals with the franchise as a whole, it's a massive step back.
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>>78260283

Both x-wings vs Tie Fighter scenes were orgasmic.

I can't fucking wait to see what they do with more ships in battle in the next films.

I need to see capital vs capital ships with these effects. I FUCKING NEED IT MAN
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>>78260433
They won't kill off Leia.
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>>78260455

How?
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>>78260455
>acting
>dialogue
>cinematography
>characters
>pacing
>tone

I know you are probably memeing, but if you are honestly being serious then you are either underage and don't understand anything about movies or you simply have shit taste. The new movie is great and on par with the OT.
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>>78260491
>The new movie is great and on par with the OT.
Only because it was a very fancy reskin of ANH.
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>>78260481
Why wouldn't they kill off Leia?
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>>78253868
>New TIEs
>a pressurized cockpit, an ejection seat
Rebels shows the standard Imperial TIE has a pressurized cockpit, and Aftermath shows they have ejection seats, though apparently that last one isn't widely known in-universe.
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>>78260491
The pacing was fucking awful.
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>>78260505
Doesn't matter. It could be a literal rehash but it's still an objectively good movie whereas teh prequels suck total ass.
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>>78260518
Are you serious? The shitstorm from SJWs would be massive for killing the one major female character from the OT, and casuals always side with SJWs
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>>78260491
>The new movie is great
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>>78260527
That's always been the case.

Watch the prequel trilogy, it has the same problem.
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>>78260570
>it's alright because the other movies did it too!
Kill yourself.
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>>78260552
>this argument again

People said they would never dare to kill off Han because "fans would be so mad that no one would ever watch Star Wars again!". They did it and no one seems to be upset about it.
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>>78260601
The argument was that the pacing is better than in the prequels which it is. TFA is constantly fun and exciting, you contrarian faggot.
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>>78260607
No one ever lost their job because of a pissed off star wars fan. SJWs are like nazis.
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>>78260607
And I don't get why they would have to kill off every character from the OT.
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>>78260601
You misunderstand.

I don't think that excuses it, I'm just saying it's not something new.
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>I like that wookie!
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>>78260491
Casting is what prevents me from giving it 10/10. I knew going in the story will be meh, at least it wasn't complete shit.

>pointless flashy Captain Phasma
>napoleon dynamite kylo edgelord
>all the force control acting
>mister fuck up fin
>super evils first order w/ mean bad officers

+Effects
+worlds traveled to
+dogfights
+real locations
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>>78260627
>it's fun, that's all it needs!
>who cares about correctly setting up a scene or characters being allowed to react to the events of the movie?
Seriously, kill yourself.
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>>78254323
>the movie's first shot is a severed hand floating through space
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>>78260667
Butthurt irrelevant cynic drowning in his own misery spotted

You'll never like Star Wars again just admit it
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people, kylo ren is supposed to be awkward.
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Kylo Ren has daddy issues
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>>78260706
yeah, and contemporary art is supposed to look like shit.
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>>78260684
OK, now you're just baiting. Really badly too.
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I really liked the film. The 1st 3rd was amazing. Sure, it slowed down kinda in the middle, but the ending was pretty good.[Spoiler]The cocktease of Luke at the very end was cruel. I also did cry when Han was killed. I personally hate Kylo Renn, but I feel like he was Anakin done better and what we should have gotten in the prequels. I did enjoy seeing Rey kick his sorry ass at the end though.
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>>78260706
Is there autism in star wars and what planet do they live on? Because you all know they live on one planet.
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>>78260734
>tfw when I didn't spoiler correctly.
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>>78260749
naboo
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When I walked out of the theater I yelled into the crowd "CHEWBACCA DIES".
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>>78260749
Yeah it's called Forchaan
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>>78260797
Chewie had a pretty bad ass death in the EU. I hope if they kill him or another older cast character it will be like that.
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>>78260797
little do they know that his partner died instead
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>>78260820
Sheev would be proud anon.
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>>78260797
I wouldn't even do that because it would put them in the mindset when watching the movie of being pissed off and cynical instead of happy like they should be.
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TFA was a little underwhelming. If Episode 8 doesn't blow me away I'm probably going to stick to the EU as my headcanon.
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tfw I got to see the movie at 7 in theater 7, feels good man.

>>78260797
Funnily enough I saw people waiting in the imax line that instantly put on headphones when we came out.
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Today's also Mark Hamill's 37th wedding anniversary. How's that for pottery?
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>>78260797
But Chewbacca does die
In the inside
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>>78260892
DARK GREETINGS!
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>>78260904
Do you think Chewie will turn to alcoholism?
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>>78260904
NUCLEAR
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>>78260901

lol, you were at the theater across from ole miss, right?
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Let's be serious.

TFA is ROTS tier.
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>>78260950
No, it's A New Hope tier. I was perfectly fine with A New Hope 2:Electric Boogaloo.
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>>78260935
He'll fuck his problems away.

You know who with.

>>78260960
Ditto. It's good but safe.
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>>78260973
Leia, I mean by law the life debt would pass to the spouse right?
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>>78260960
>>78260973
>DAT SHIT TASTE
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>>78260973
Chewie/Maz is my new SW OTP desu senpai
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>>78260950
nah it's about ROTJ tier. The latter of the OT.
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>>78260950
It's ANH tier. Leagues above the prequels and ROTJ, but very safe and unoriginal. It's the funniest Star Wars movie ever.
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>>78260935
Wookiee's have a savage tolerance for alcohol, he'd have to get torn the fuck up.
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>>78261031
This
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The original trilogy > The Force Awakens > the prequel trilogy.

Agree/disagree?
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>tfw some people on twitter are now calling Kylo "Darth Fuckboy"
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>>78261107
ESB>AHN=TFA>ROTJ=ROTS>TPM>AotC
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>>78261107
I don't think we can judge the movie in compassion with the other 2 trilogies until this one is complete. After all, Episode 8 might surpass Empire.
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>>78261107
Disagree. The Force Awakens is on par with the OT. Not as great as Empire, but still better than Jedi.
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>rey says she has never piloted before
>does all that fancy shit with the alcon

lol, she's good at everything she does
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>>78260607

Wait until the weekend is over and all the normies have seen it.

Hell is coming.
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>>78261123

Switch the = and the > on either side of Jedi and I agree with this.
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>>78261107
it's the shittest star wars movie except the cartoon one
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>>78261123
Ditto for me. Though overall my favorite scene is Jabba's Palace.
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>>78260635

Because the actors are old and going to die at some point.

And besides, they need to make room for the new characters.

One thing I actually do like is the fact that Luke fucked up so incredibly quickly trying to pull together a new Jedi order. The Jedi Order was at its absolute height just before the Clone Wars happened. This barely-trained kid isn't going to restart the whole thing overnight. It's going to take a long time, if the Jedi ever do properly come back at all.
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So is Poe going to get promoted now as a top character in VIII?
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>talking with the people next to me before the movie
>"Yeah, Phasma is such a badass design, and obviously the Boba Fett replacement. Hopefully she won't die a comedic death..."
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>>78261186
No, fuck you, making Luke a fuck-up is a retarded idea.
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How would you all rate the lightsaber duel?
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>>78261238
Solid 8/10

Felt like both of them had no idea what they were doing
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>>78261238
Felt just right, very primal and organic, makes me hyped for round two.
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>>78261233
>>78261186
I don't really see how he failed. Ben was very clearly a disturbed child that got swept up in some Snoke.


Lotta not muh EU going on here.
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>>78261233
But he isn't the chosen one. His time pasted the second he redeemed Vader.

also Fin is the resident fuck up.
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>>78261238
It was lightsaber dueling for noobs. The inexperience of Rey and Finn were obivous, though Rey still managed to get the upper hand on Kylo, probably because she is much stronger in the force than he is. Over all, I felt the battles were more subtle, just like how it was in episode 4, and not over the top like in the prequels. I give it a 7/10.
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>>78254043

Yo, I think Han even recognized her. The Falcon being 'stolen' and left in the hands of the same guy who took Rey away from her parents is just too convenient. He wouldn't let some fat alien fucks keep his baby for 30 years without a reason.
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>>78261292
Kylo was also wounded, and his fighting style actually reflected that.
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>>78261238
I liked it really heavy stuff and good attention to detail with with Rey trying to use staff jabs.
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Are they preparing for aliens again
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>>78261227

Yes. Yes please. Poe Dameron is rad as fuck. Fuckin X-wings charging in over the water got me hard as fuck and I've seen that scene multiple times over the last year. God damn.
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>>78261292
This was the first duel where it really occurred to me how much those things must hurt.
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>>78261329

God yes. I think Rey got Kylo's hand at the end for MUH SYMBOLISM but all those nasty glancing wounds and shit. No clean cuts at all.
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After he's done with Rebels, Filoni better get to work on a Poe Dameron series.
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>>78261305
True, but he also had no problem taking down Finn
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Guys quick, I need that picture of Kylo with the fedora.
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>>78261364
You seriously thought Finn stood any chance? He literally did nothing but fuck up everything he did.
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>stopped a blaster shot in mid air
>can rape people's minds with the force
>effortlessly freezed Rey and knocked her out with the force
>got shot in the stomach by Chewbacca's powerful crossbow, but was still able to beat Finn and dominate Rey in their fight
>didn't even want to kill Rey, but to turn her to the dark side

Why do people say Kylo is weak for losing to Rey when he was emotionally unstable, severely injured and still a bit inexperienced? He actually seems to have more potential than any other SW villain before him.
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I was sad we didn't see more of the Knights of Ren. Looked like some anime bullshit.

My guess is they're more or less Snoke's agents scattered across the galaxy doing shit?
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>>78259386

Wait so they basically totally destablize the Republic and it's just treated as "o that happened, MOVING ON"?

Shit they better have some major Republic retaliation in the next one.
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>>78261391
Well except showing how to fuck up Starkiller base. The shit the First Order tells their janitors.

>>78261402
Yeah this, they made damn sure that he was fighting with both of his hands tied. Love that he's not the butthurt Vader-fanboy we thought he was going to be.
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> guys Phasma the first female Star Wars villian will be bad ass!

i dont know what i expected considering how popular Boba Fett is for how little he did.

lots of good Stormtrooper moments though
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>>78261402

people are dumb and it has something to do with rey being a huge mary sue.
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>>78261448
Luke will probably tell Rey what happened to her, Kylo and the other students in the next movie. Then we'll learn more about them. It's a bit disappointing that we only saw them for a few seconds, but at least they seem to be badasses.
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>>78261459
There's not much they could have done with it, without it just being mentioned and ignored in favor of the imminent destruction by Starkiller Base, which is more important at the time for the characters.
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Rank the films

5>4>6>3>1>7>2

People will call this bait, but I sincerely feel this way.
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>fo running wild
>his own student is falling to the dark side
>goes to a fucking mountain to hide instead of helping his best friends get their son back

I can get that Luke doesn't want to teach new students, but defeating kylo and snoke should be a priority. Billions of sentients died while he was sitting on a rock.
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>>78261491
I hope so.
>Squad of evil villains, each with a unique weapon
Is one of my favorite enemy types.

I also hope Snoke retains his fuck-huge size and it isn't just a hologram.

Give me the action figures
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>>78261460
>Well except showing how to fuck up Starkiller base.

people only looked to his word only because said he was once there (as a janitor), I bet they could have thought of it themselves considering they were the ones who got past the shield. Finn even says to Han on the base that he has no idea what he is doing, that nothing he said actually had basis on fact.
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>>78261512
>Snoke turned out to be a thing

who the fuck thought this name was ok.

he needs some serious moments to seem threatening, even then he'll never be as good as Sheev
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KYLO REN!!!

Love the dude so much.

Good movie, feel a little cold from because it's ANH remake but still. And I love all the new characters, I want a damn Poe movie now.
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>>78261511
4>5>7>6>3>1>2
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So who was the guy from the beginning of the film that had the info on Luke in the first place?
I feel like I should know who it is and it's killing me
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>>78261548
Better then Ickus, at least.
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>>78261369
Pretty please.
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YOUSA BEEN VISITED BY DA SPIRIT OF DA MUY MUY BOMBAD SANTY CLAUS, HESA BRINGEN YOUSA DA FOLLOWING STINKOWIFF BOOKS IN EPUB FORMATTEN

-Star Wars: Da Force a-Wakey novelization by Alan Dean Foster
-Before Da Wakey, shorty tales bout Rey, Finn and Poe-Poe by Greg Rucka

BUT YOUSA ONLY GETTEN DESE DOODOO BOOKS IF YOUSEN REPLY TO DIS POST AND SAYING: "I WANT JAR JAR IN EPISODE 8"

As usual, check the mega... the novelization is already there, for some reason Before the Awakening isn't available just yet but I should be able to add it in the next 30 minutes[/spoilers]
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Don't get me wrong, I loved this movie, but I hope they don't make VIII too much like empire. Having Rey rush off, without completing her training, to rematch Ren and get beaten, will make the trilogy feel too much like OT.
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>>78261512
If he had shown up to help wouldn't the First Order have destroyed the system he's in? He probably didn't want to endanger other people.
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>>78261553
fuck that bugs me too.
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>>78261585
Cool, thanks.
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>>78261553

His name is Lor San Tekka.

As far as anyone can tell, he's a brand new character.

There are theories that he may be a very old, very discouraged Caleb Dume aka Kanan Jarrus under a new pseudonym, largely based on the fact that if you wanted to make an animated character who looked like a young Max von Sydow, it would look almost exactly like Kanan, down to the eyebrows.
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>>78255724
>doing a bombing run
>fail to bring glorious Y-Wing, ship designed specifically for bombing runs
They deserved to lose just for that
silly Resistance, when will they learn?
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>>78261585
Fool, I already wanted Jar Jar in Episode 8
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>>78261553
Lor San Tekka. He is an old friend of Leia and belonged to a group that revered the Jedi.
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>>78261531
Yeah, but he pointed out the one structure on the planet that needed to be destroyed.

>>78261608
More like not sending capital ships to orbitally bombard the shieldless base.
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>>78255724
i'm still triggered about the lack of Intercepters.

ties getting back lasers are cool but seem to just mean two people get killed per TIE instead of one.
>>
I AM MAD

MAD ABOUT CAPTAIN PHASMA
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so can anyone spoil what happens to poe? or what he does in the movie?
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>>78261635
She really should've been the one who fights Finn on Takodana, not that no-name stormtrooper with his baton.
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>>78261644

Flys around in an X-wing
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>>78261644
He survives, does a flip in an X-Wing, and collectively makes the theater pregnant
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>>78261625
>the once structure connected to the big gun and something else, power core or coolers or whatever

really wouldn't take them long to put two and two together. I mean it was one of the few things on the planet.
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>>78261644
He dies almost right away
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>>78261644
has a brother that looks exactly like him and does the same job.
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>>78261602

you faggots know the visual dictionary leaked with an explanation of his character?

he's just a jedi groupie, retard.
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>>78261644
He does some cool shit, not really much else
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>>78261664
Yeah that was an odd fight that really had no purpose other than showing they have anti-lightsaber weapons in a jedi-less galaxy?
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>>78261602
MSW reported 3 separate explanations for him:
1. He's a character who watches over Rey (or Kira as she was known then)
2. He's a Clone Wars veteran and an old version of a character who appeared in the prequels
3. He's Boba Fett, or rather he's the man who kills Boba Fett and steals his identity, now old and retired
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>>78261644
Gets captured by Kylo Ren
Gets broken out by Finn and escapes with him.
"dies"
Comes back in a X-Wing and does flying that makes Anakin look like a bitch ass podracer.
Delivers the killing blow to The thing 20 times bigger than the Death Star

Least screen time of the new main cast, most based.
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Filoni says this season finale is gonna be the best and worst we could hope for. That does not sound good for Ahsoka at all.

Also, is it me or is the chick from Rebels Recon getting hotter each episode? :o
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>>78261707
The more you get to know someone the more you want to fuck them.
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>>78261644
On the first half he's literally the male version of Leia.

Gets the location of Luke and gives it to BB-8.

Captured and tortured by the First Order, but only Kylo Ren made him crack about the location

Has a ridiculously great chemistry with Finn. He actually made up with the name Finn since he didn't like the Stormtrooper codename.

Disappears in Jakku, Finn and BB-8 thought he was dead.

Reappears again on Maz Kanata's planet, leading an assault against Kylo and the FO troops.

Destroys Starkiller Base.

Should have a bigger role in VIII now that Han is dead.
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Being in this thread is like being on a minefield. Constant watch for Force Awakens spoilers.
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But where were the chinamen
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>>78261719
This explains why I keep thinking "Pablo's kinda hot"
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>>78261732
This is honestly the worst place to be if you have not seen the movie/you've only your self to blame.
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>>78261585
I want Jar Jar

physically
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Can we talk about how Nien Nunb was not only in the movie, but how he got a promotion to Red Leader, AND died a hero's death (sadly offscreen)

Fucking Resistance doesn't treat their aliens allies well
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>>78261764
He was at the line-up at the end when the Falcon leaves D'Qar.
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>>78261360
He was in Ep7 as additional voices, it made me squeal a little
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>>78261726

Poe is the real hero. Finn and Rey were great and all but POE.

MOTHER

FUCKING

POE
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Kylo Ren did nothing wrong.
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>>78261707
Ahsoka? Or Kanan?
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>>78261778
>Wakes up in the middle of the night in the middle of a desert
>Entire First Order is on his ass
>Lost his Jacket
>Made his way back to the Resistance base in no time flat
how
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>>78261796
Well, he hinted at a confrontation between Ahsoka and Vader, the fight everybody wants to see. So I think that's gonna happen, which doesn't sound good for Ahsoka at all.
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>>78261585
Upload Before the Awakening on Zippy please.
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So what are the New Republic just as incompetent and wishy washy as the old? ignoring the obvious problem until it's far too late?
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>>78261511
5>6>4=7>3>1>2
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Poe's the first time I've actually felt like there was an actual badass pilot in charge

>>78261821

i may be the only person with this complaint but I really needed more space politics in this
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It'd be okay if force ghost ahsoka becomes a regular cast member.
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>>78261773
Really? They showed his face only at the very beginning of the fight, hell that unnamed chick gave us play by plays of what was happening to red squadron
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ANYONE WANT TO WATCH FORCE AWAKENS WITH ME?

i have no franz. :(
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>>78261832

No that complaint seems pretty common, reading things on other sites. People wanted at least SOME info on what the fuck was going on with all that. And that blowing up the Republic Capital doesn't really work as well as it should because we don't really know anything about the New Republic beyond a couple of lines.
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>>78261231
She's probably not dead, she got dumpstered before the rebel attack even began so there's plenty of time for her to have escaped. It definitely hurts her intimidation factor that she got fucking clowned on though
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So since in the opening crawl it titled Luke, THE LAST JEDI, this means Ezra is kill

>Where were you when Ezra get kill
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>>78261832
I only want, like, one conversation that sets up what exactly is going on with the galactic power and then that's it.

Like, just how big is the First Order? Was the Starkiller all they had in terms of a Motherbase or do they have other large outposts?
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>>78261851
I'll go with you, as long as the night has a "happy ending" if you know what I mean
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>>78261821
>are the New Republic just as incompetent and wishy washy as the old? ignoring the obvious problem until it's far too late?
I think they got shoved into a corner more than anything else, but it still felt bullshit to me.

>>78261832
I miss Wedge, but Poe's a damn good replacement. Poe>Rey>Finn in my opinion

>>78261764
It was awesome. Honestly my heart leaped a little when I saw that little guy and I'm surprised it made me as happy to see him as it did
also pretty sure he makes it
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>>78261851
Faggot
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>>78261882
if you buy my ticket, maybe. ;)
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>>78261874
>Was the Starkiller all they had in terms of a Motherbase or do they have other large outposts?
Snoke was obviously not on starkiller, which begs the question of where the fuck was he
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>>78261874
>>78261854

Yeah just some quick like "We have blah % of the galaxy supporting us" and someone to be Leia when the NuAllderian gets blown
And didn't the first order win already? Like blowing up the star system of your enemy is a hell of a thing.
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>>78255154
>Episode 9 The Jedi's Revenge
>Snoke and the New Order looking as strong as ever
>All hope seems lost for the resistance
>Luke dies after teaching Rey her final lesson.
>Becomes Force Ghost
>Finn Dies as a hero, sacrificing himself to save the heroes.
>Epic fight between Kylo and Rey. Kylo loses
>Star fight thrown in there somewhere.
>Leia dies leaving Poe as the new Leader of the resistance
>As all hope seems lost for Rey during her fight with Snoke. Kylo Ren steps up to help defeat the Dark lord
>Bittersweet ending
>Poe is deeling with duties of becoming the new King of the Alliance
>Kylo vows to help start a new Order training Jedi
>Rey walks off into the sunset Clint Eastwood style leaving the audience unsure of what comes next
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>>78261863
I was holding my breath waiting for them to turn the corner and find her covered in muck carrying a machine gun.

Yeah she's probably still alive and will be used as Finn's rival and "link" to the First Order.
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>>78261911
Too much death, only one 'Major' can die per movie
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>>78261511
5>4>6>7=3>1>2
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>>78261921
>7=3
Fucking kill yourself
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>>78261915
>Captain Ithano

Man that character looked so damn familiar and I don't know why, I haven't read the book but is he a Kaleesh?
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>>78261932
His mask is, but he's a Delphidian.
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>>78261921
>7>anything

at least their villains were intimidating and not emo teenagers throwing tantrums.
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>>78261947
>Kylo fucking up part of the Star Destroyer because he didn't get his way isn't a tantrum.
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>>78261932
The book confirms it's a Kaleesh mask. It's pretty vague about what exactly he is, but given that his body is a pretty normal-looking human shape he's probably not a Kaleesh himself.
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>>78261909

Well no, the Republic has far more than one Star System, we already know they also control major worlds like Naboo, Taris, Coruscant, etc. So they should be battered but still around unless they were retarded and had their entire military there because plot stupidity.
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>>78261915
Man, I hope we get more bounty hunters/mercs/outer rim bullshit in the future movies/spin offs.

Those were always the best parts of Star Wars.
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>>78261947
>He literally throws two tantrums
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>>78261954
it is. thats what im complaining about. he was worse than fucking episode 1 anakin.
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Does the audibook for TFA release today or is it January like the physical book?
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>>78261962
Was that not Coruscant that got Kablooied?
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>>78261967
he should have thrown none.
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>>78261984
No, it was the Hosnian system.
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>>78261984
Chandrilla I believe, it's the new capital world.
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>>78261972

Episode 1 Anakin never threw a single tantrum and was basically a happy kid for almost the entire movie except for the scene where he left home.
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>>78261984

No it was Hosnian Prime, Coruscant isn't the main capital of the Republic anymore in a show of good faith to the Mid and Outer Rim systems or something like that. Now the capital is changed every few years by democratic vote.

So yeah Coruscant is fine, it's just not as important as it once was though I presume it's still the economic center of the galaxy.
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Ok so here is how I feel about the film

+ Kylo Ren is not a Vader clone and is well acted.
+All of the new three were well cast
+The humor, at level which Lucas could never achieve.
+Excellent use of special effects and practical effects.
+Mostly subtle in it's nods to the first films.
+Finn and Poe scenes
+Kylo Ren and Hux scenes.
+The Lightsaber fight felt really good. Tense and fast while feeling natural.
+Poe making the Skywalker family look like shit pilots.

Meh parts
Rey's desert life is boring as shit.And is even more boring to watch
Kylo's temper tantrums almost border on silly
Finn is just a bit to thirsty for that scavenger ass
Snoke and Luke cocktease is going to make this a long couple of fucking years.

Parts I did not like
-Starkiller base out of fucking nowhere, btw it's a souped up Death Star and can take out whole systems.
-need a companion book to know that the First Order blew up the capital world for the New Republic, the whole fucking senate is dead, but you won't know that unless you buy the book.
-Some faggot on agar.io spoiled the big shocker.
-Phasma is the definition of wasted effort on a cool design.
-R2-D2 wakes up, for no raisin
-The ship scene with the two gangs Han swindled, while fun, contributes nothing to the film.
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>>78261932
He reminded me of a red Durge with cheek spikes.

>>78261914
I hope they can redeem her as a villain. They've never really had a non-sith villain that has seemed a legitimate threat in the films
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>yfw mecha shiva Rey and Kylo vs giant Snoke in Ep 9
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>>78261984
>>78262003
>>78262009

>all this confusion

Jesus fuck Abrams what the hell is wrong with you

At least Lucas had the decency to build up Alderaan's destruction enough that people knew the name of the fucking planet.
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Is there a link to the soundtrack or novelization or anything floating around yet?
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>>78262018
Chandrila is actually the capital where the Senate is in the new canon. It might be in the Hosnian system though.
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>>78262003
>>78262009
Did they even say the name? It getting blown up was less hitting than 'Many Bothan spies died for this' Hell even with the Bothans they had somewhat of a moment of silence

>>78262018
NYC to w/e planets DC got it got it

Actually more like Toronto to Ottawa
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>>78262033
Soundtrack is available on KAT.
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>>78262033
read the thread, one was already posted
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>>78262022
>need a companion book to know that the First Order blew up the capital world for the New Republic, the whole fucking senate is dead, but you won't know that unless you buy the book
they explain that in the film. They spell it out for you even
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>>78262023
Holy shit thats totally it. I'm now just going to say that he was a Gen'dai
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>>78262041
Yes they say the name, which is why most people that saw the movie know it wasn't fucking Coruscant.
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>>78262022
>Some faggot on agar.io spoiled the big shocker.
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>>78262033
Soundtrack is on torrents already, novelization is in the mega in the OP
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>>78262037

Chandrila was the FIRST capital.

The Visual Dictionary has established that every few years the New Republic government moves to a new planet as the new capital is elected.

It's like the Olympics, but it's a government.
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>first order officers think hux has hauled ass
>he really ran back to report his failure to snoke

I liked that, no wonder Snoke chose to keep him around.
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I feel as if this movie had less jokes/references and 0 death stars it would have been a 9/10.
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>>78262037

Chandrila is the ORIGINAL Capital of the New Republic, the visual guide explains that they change their capital every few years by Democratic vote... for some reason. I don't know it sounds inefficent to me, but that's what it says.
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>>78262058
Well that makes sense.

So RIP Hosnian Prime then.
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Anyone else think Rey was a bit of a mary sue? Everything else was fine but she seemed too perfect
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>>78262052
One line of dialogue < Number of times Alderaan was said before it blew up (At least 12?)
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>BEN!
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>>78262065
There was a good mixture of jokes, at the end of the day the Star Wars movies are supposed to be fun adventure flicks.

I agree on the other accounts, though.
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>>78262068
>for some reason. I don't know it sounds inefficent to me, but that's what it says.
It's to keep faggots like the systems that joined Dooku for the CIS from doing that again, by making them seem important enough to the New Republic to host the Senate.
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>>78262084
Change that to a lightsaber
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>>78262052
I must have missed them say the name, or perhaps they only said the system rather than the planet, when they said they were going to take out the new government and the planet looked like a city-world I assumed it was Coruscant
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>>78262083
One of the early goals in ANH is for Leia to actually step foot on Alderaan, so of course it has to be mentioned more than once. Hosnian Prime was just there to showcase the mega laser.
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>>78262060
I really like that Hux was like Tarkin in that he was going to take any of Kylo's shit just because he was a special Sith snowflake.
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Just got back from the marathon. I don't think TFA was a bad movie by and respect but I walked away kinda disappointed. Had a lot of gripes and it felt like J. J. was largely just trying to recreate the OT.

One thing I can say is Kylo Ren stole the show and was a great villain.
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>>78262107
Through Rebels and the new comics we know that Coruscant isn't the only city-covered world in the galaxy.
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That CGI alien lady with the eyes was the worst part of the movie.
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>>78262126
>great villain.
>throwing tantrums like an emo teen
>good villain
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>>78262133
She was fine. The weird things on Han's freighter were terrible though.
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>>78262090

Yeah, they moved off Coruscant to represent a clean break from both the Empire and the incompetence and corruption of the Old Republic to the many former CIS systems that joined or something like that.

Seeing as they sat around doing the minimal amount while the remaining Imperials grew in power and managed to have their capital destroyed despite having the most powerful military in the Galaxy I don't think they worked on the "not be as incompetent" bit enough.
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>>78262133
>Hire delicious chocolate eyecandy
>Make her a CGI Nu-Yoda
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>>78262143
Oh god yeah. That was literally the only thing I actively disliked in the film.
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>>78262144
They spent all their time moving that sweet ass senate chamber, just plonking it on whatever planet won the vote
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>>78262084
I knew one of the old guard would have to go, but not like that
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I feel like if I got to see VII/VIII/IX back to back I'd have loved TFA but so much was left open ended and unexplained and so little actually happened that I walked away disappointed.

>>78262138

I keep seeing these complaints and I don't understand it. We've already had ultimate badass stoic and composed sith. An extremely powerful and unstable villain was awesome. I loved the tantrums because it was so frightening. I legitimately found him more terrifying than any Star Wars villain to date right up there with Vader and possibly more.
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>>78262154
That whole scene was kinda unnecessary.
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>>78262147
She reminded me more of Guinan than Yoda. But I was disappointed that there was no chocolate waifu or chrome waifu
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So this is what people walking out of Empire back in 1980 felt like

I want more
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tfw I got the "big" spoiler spoiled for me literally yesterday before seeing the movie.

Whatever it was kinda expected desu.
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>>78262170
Plus a total waste of the dudes from The Raid.
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>>78262144

No, they signed a peace treaty with most of the Empire. The Empire maintains control of the Core, including Coruscant.

The First Order is now a separate entity.
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>>78262138
I honestly thought the scene where the two stormtroopers slowly back away while Kylo's raging in the interrogation chamber was pretty funny.
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>>78262165
you have shit taste anon
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Yeah, Rathtars aren't the Jar Jar or even the new Ewoks, but they were the worst part of the film. Thankfully they were only on screen for like 2 minutes.
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>>78262154
It added up overall to my biggest gripe with the movie. There's a lot in the timeskip that happened that is referenced that we just have to take at face value and expect to be okay with. The dialogue establishes the important events, but everything else is just tacked on.
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>>78262178
is this from a new book or something?
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>>78262127
I've really only been keeping up with the movies, which I assume is the case for the majority of the audience, so the confusion seems reasonable I think.

>>78262143
Didn't really seem to fit his character to sacrifice people in a hunt for Shoggoths
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>>78262165
That's the point, it's the first movie in a trilogy you're supposed to leave you wanting more. It did setup characters well like Poe and Phasma. Kinda stupid of Disney to put them so far apart.
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>>78262201

TFA Visual Dictionary
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>>78262186

And you have boring taste. I bet you hate what Clone Wars did to Darth Maul too.

You guys need to be able to accept a flawed villain and one that isn't the ultimate perfect badass.
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>>78262172
JJ needs to step up his waifu game

At least we got Poe
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>>78262195
What was wrong with them?
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>>78262205

Phasma literally ended up the Boba. Kinda made me laugh. She was made to look so badass and did jack shit and ended up a joke.
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>you will never lick Rey's plate after she licked it clean
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>>78262195
The only good part of the scene was showing what happens to biologicals caught outside of a ship going hyperspace; they just melt away before the ship flies off.

>>78262201
Aftermath and the Visual Dictionary.
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>>78262219
There was just weird CGI things that were dumb and too much of a side excursion from the main flow of the film.
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That Falcon reveal got me pretty good
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>>78262183
yeah the Stormtrooper moments were the best part for me, even noticed two having the same chat to the two Obi snuck past in ANH
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>>78262217
Maybe 8 will have more waifus
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>yfw Poe and Finn will be the new Steve and Bucky
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>>78262237
Ah, well every movie aside from ROTS (it was cut) had a creature feature so I guess they needed to fit it in somewhere.
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Film was decent overall despite the ridiculous nostalgia pandering but the one thing I fucking hated more than anything was that Rey was constantly pulling ridiculous Jedi feats out of her ass.

Kylo has powers so strong and impressive we've literally never seen them before. He has the blood of Vader in him and was trained by Luke Skywalker.

>gets merked in a lightsaber duel the first time Rey ever picks it up

And what the fuck was up with her stab stab stabbing?

Finn's fight with Kylo makes Rey look mentally retarded when we go from an intensely choreographed lightsaber fight that looked like it was plucked out of the best of Star Wars media and then we get Rey doing nothing but stabs.
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>>78262240
The people in my theater clapped and cheered when the Falcon was first shown on Jakku.
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>>78262243
They were chatting about new droid models??
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>>78262267
>And what the fuck was up with her stab stab stabbing?

Staff jabs
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>>78262232
Hopefully this was just her introduction and she'll get more screen time in the next one. Or maybe she'll go full Bobba and get jobbed next time
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>>78262270
Mine too. Honestly surprised they held it in when the logo popped up.

Of course they also had clap fits here and there when they would make references or Han would do something cool.
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Did my eyes fuck with me or did C-3PO get his gold arm back at the end?
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>>78262288
Same anon you replied to. My theater clapped for the title and opening crawl, Falcon reveal, Han's first appearance and Rey force summoning Anakin's lightsaber.
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>>78262311
I noticed that too, maybe it was just an off-screen resolution.
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>>78262235

The visual guide to me made it sound like the NR controlled Coruscant but just choose not to make it the capital, maybe they just gain control of it later than the Aftermath book.
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>>78262267
>Rey was constantly pulling ridiculous Jedi feats out of her ass

This pissed me off especially because it looked like they weren't going to do it at first. Then again it could be leading up to the force being really strong with her then she goes dark side because Luke doesn't train her or she's seduced or something
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People in my theater clapped for these moments

-Star Wars (was really happy everyone stayed silent during the Long Time Ago bit)
-Falcon reveal/joke
-Han and Chewie
-Poe's long take flight on Takonda
-Leia
-Threepio
-Finn with Lightsaber
-Rey with Lightsaber
-Luke
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>>78261570
Come on I know somebody has it.
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>>78262240
As soon as she was like "No way that one's trash" I knew what we were in for and I was pleased as fuck. Did not disappoint.

>>78262267
Dude, she is Luke's kid. She's equally as fucking broken, if not moreso. Who knows who her mother was?
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>>78262355
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>>78262138
You're forgetting that throwing tantrums like an emo teen is a trait that all Skywalker men have.
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>that guy who was at the theater across the street from ole miss who didn't respond to my post

lol
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>>78262373
Ben Solo-Organa-Skywalker

BEN SOS
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>>78262372
Fucking finally, thanks anon.
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Post your obnoxious premier theater stories

>Think the little girl behind me was legitimately mentally retarded or something because she looked like she was in middle school but would not stop kicking my seat even after I told her to stop
>Guy next to me was reciting every line from the OT right before the characters said them including sound effects (I went to the marathon)
>Same guy was one of those douchey I need to hate on good guys fags and every time something bad would happen to Kylo he'd boo and yell that it was bullshit and then when Han was trying to turn Kylo he just kept yelling HE BETTER KILL HIM over and over
>Couldn't hear fucking shit over my theater clapping at goddamn everything to the point where we'd miss lines
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Biggest laugh line in the movie? In my theater it was either "I'm a big deal in the Resistance. Big Deal." or "That's not how The Force works!"

Runner up being C3P0's entrance or the two "Nope." Stormtroopers when seeing Kylo go nuts.

But basically everything out of Boyega's mouth slayed.
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>>78262363
>Who knows who her mother was?

She's a reverse Anakin. Luke jacked off into midichlorians and they conceived her.
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>>78262363

Anakin and Luke had incredible potential yes, and so does Rey but Anakin and Luke had to train for years before they could really do much with it.
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>>78262349
>tfw no one in my theater clapped during the movie until the ending
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I hate that Kylo's name was Ben.

Who the fuck was Obi-Wan to Leia or Han. It was such a pathetic OT-fag pandering moment. Bail Solo or fuck Anakin Solo would make more sense.
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Just got back from TFA.

Loved the OT and PT references.

Snoke was great

Loved Hux and the First Order. Can't wait to see more of them and their Star Destroyer.

Why did BEN have to do it? Why?

All of the new characters were great.

Is Maz Kanata's fate confirmed?

Also, just want to say the music was amazing, even better hearing it with the film. Definitely my second favorite soundtrack, behind RotS.

One last thing: Starkiller definitely hit a planet and moons as far as I can tell
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>>78262404
I was accidentally that guy when they dinged up the falcon on takeoff. I kept saying "Oh no. Oh no no no" under my breath.
I'm used to it being beaten up, but seeing the Falcon eat sand just after getting some life back in it twisted a knife in my gut
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>>78262404
Actually pretty good. Ordered my tickets last-minute so got first-row seats. Sat next to a couple who got confused by the Fandango website as well and thought they got back-row seats. Talked the shit with them until the movie started.

Before that I wondering into another theater thinking it was the right one, turns out the local college rented it out. In hindsight I could've easily just stayed there.
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>>78262215
there a torrent or something up for this yet? Not seeing it in the OP...
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>>78262363
>Dude, she is Luke's kid.

That's the obvious assumption but it's still bullshit.

Anakin had the highest midicholorian count of all time and didn't do anything impressive other than lucky flying until he was trained.

Luke KNEW he was force sensitive and being trained to be a Jedi and struggled blocking blaster bolts and picking up rocks at first.

Meanwhile Rey can not only block Kylo but read into HIS mind, Jedi mind trick on a whim because she felt like trying it and defeat Luke's padawan and Vader's grandson in a duel. And all of this is without ever even knowing she's force sensitive she just decided to do these things and it worked.
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>>78262349
mine clapped 4-5 times, but overall not the worst audience, though some white trash woman laughing worse then jabba.

still nothing compared to watching DBZ Revial of F in threaters
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>>78262404
>>Couldn't hear fucking shit over my theater clapping at goddamn everything to the point where we'd miss lines

Yep
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>>78262431
i honestly bet they asked Ford how many he wanted to do, he said one and they offed him early.
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OFFICIAL TFA CHARACTER RANKINGS:

>God Tier
Kylo Ren
Poe Dameron

>Good Tier
Finn
BB-8

>Mid Tier
Rey
Hux
Maz Kanata

>Low Tier
Phasma

>Don't know enough to judge yet
Snoke
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>>78262467

My absolute fear is that "The Force Awakens" is supposed to mean that Rey is literally the physical embodiment of the Force.
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>>78261585
It finally came through, so Before the Awakening is now in the mega

>>78261816
Hahahaha no
http://www96.zippyshare.com/v/fN5lYLAR/file.html
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I'm actually pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed Boyega. I wasn't a racist /tv/tard but I had no real expectations either way and I'm glad he proved everyone wrong.

I actually went into it hoping Rey was the force sensitive and came out of it wishing it was Boyega and liking him more.

Finn and Kylo were definitely the best characters in the movie by a long shot.
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>>78262469
>watching DBZ Revial of F in threaters
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>>78262469
OH GOOD LORD WHY?!
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>>78262421

All she really did was basic mind tricks and one force pull. She's like toddler Anakin Solo tier though; she's so fucking Force broken it's just second nature to her and she doesn't even know what it is she's doing. Her absurd mechanical aptitude, visions out the ass just being around anything force related.
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>>78262502
That's Neil Patrick Harris.
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how is he so perfect

;_;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS9LPPOIEZM
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>>78262406
Biggest laugh was Han saying that Chewie was saying he was cold on Starkiller Base.
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>>78262490
Up Hux to good, Poe stands alone at the top
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I loved how Poe/Finn just became instant buddies and there wasn't any bullshit "How do I know I can trust this guy" stuff.

Also I loved that after Finn revealed he was lying to Rey she didn't freak out and just understood it.

GOOD WRITING!
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>>78262406
Too many to count. Probably the "Nope." Stormtroopers or "That's not how The Force works!" Though really everything funny(like some of Chewbacca's scenes in the falcon/freighter) was met with laughter
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>>78262507
>>78262508
it wasn't the worst DBZ movie by far, and i wanted to support it. but jesus the people. i heard atleast 3 people make the Lakers joke when Frieza went Gold.
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>>78262489

He wanted to die in Empire. Was anyone surprised?
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>>78262467
>Anakin had the highest midicholorian count of all time and didn't do anything impressive other than lucky flying until he was trained.
he was a slave stuck in a junkyard. He still managed to make a functioning podracer from scraps and be the only human in existence with the reflexes to race.

>defeat Luke's padawan and Vader's grandson in a duel
I feel like Ren has serious doubts about his capability and it leads to him being shit in practice. Plus he was wounded and all
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Just got back.

Did JJ just fucking kill off Nien Nunb off screen? Didn't see him in the last half of the fighter battle
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>>78262430
Yeah, that was stupid. Even if it's Leia wanting to honor the memory of a great man who had a key role in saving the galaxy (albeit indirectly), she knew him better as Obi-Wan. Luke naming his kid Ben is more significant because not only was he his mentor, but Ben was the name he grew up hearing, and knew Old Ben Kenobi long before he had ever heard of Obi-Wan.
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>>78262490

>God tier
Poe

>Good tier
Finn
Maz
Hux

>Mid
Kylo

>Low
Rey

>Don't know enough to judge
Phasma
Snoke
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I think Kylo Ren might actually surpass Dooku as my favorite Star Wars villain.

You might think I'm just riding high on the hype but I was overall kinda meh on the movie. But goddamn Kylo was fucking great.
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>>78260935
When's the last time Chewie's been home to Mala?
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>>78262349
Pretty much yeah on my end.

That said, considering the ghetto theater I went to, everyone was pretty civilized. No shenanigans to speak of.
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>>78262489

Five bucks says Ford comes back as a vision for Ren. That kid is seventeen kinds of fucked up. Kid, shit; Driver is in his early 30s but he looks so young without any facial hair.
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>>78262541
Yeah, that's what I meant, are you some kind of masochist?
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>>78262539
Holy shit yes! Those were two instances I was almost sure they were going to go in cliche DRAMA! directions and then just immediately shut it down.
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>>78262497
Nah, it just means that Rey's ability to use the force woke up during the film.
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>>78262523
You're new to 4chan, aren't you?
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>>78262551
see replies to >>78261764
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>>78255031
>It also says that there is a Republic Fleet and it's the strongest army in the galaxy, but it's a fraction of the old Republic's clone army in terms of strength.

Given that the clone army was fucking tiny and struggled to overcome what essentially was a coalition of a few PMCs, funded by a planetary alliance 1/100th of the Republic's size this is fucking stupid.

Then again, the New Republic in EU was infamous for its retardation.
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So how did your theater react at the end?

>everyone clapping for a good minute
>guy next to me asks what I thought
>say I liked it
>he says he liked it too
>he then asks his friend what he thought
>he said he hated it, probably because of the Han thing since he's the only one that screamed out when it happened.
>guy says he hated it too
>mfw
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>>78262561
>liking that shit tier bland villain
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>>78262561
Kylo was enjoyable, but it's gonna take a couple more movies for him to properly live up to Vader. I know they're two different villain types, but still.
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>>78262551
>>78262578
There was a Sullustan in the Resistance line up in pilot gear at their ending scene when Rey took the Falcon to find Luke.
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BIG LETTERS FOR MEGA ANON

Just got done with the mobi of The End of History.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1Ev0h6J50-Ndy1qZmM2M2h2TXM/view?usp=sharing
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>>78262490
>God Ter
Kylo Ren
Finn

>Good Tier
Poe Dameron
Hux

>Meh Tier
Rey
BB-8
Maz

>Low Tier
Phasma
Snoke
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>>78262430
They probably thought naming him Anakin would be too much pottery, but considering the movie is basically a remake already, they should've just went for it.
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Dont forget the Force 101: it obeys your commands, but it also partially controls your actions. You just have to be at calm and centered and the Force can communicate its will to you.

Rey longs to get off the Force-forsaken ball of sand just like daddy and grandpapa did, but she endures it well, keeping the end goal in mind (her family returning), and when she leaves, she actively tries to go back and resume waiting. She schools Luke and Anakin in "patience" all day long.
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>>78262561
He was well written and the actor did a fantastic job. Best Star Wars villain, imo.
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>>78262546

man I didn't want Ren to die bc I want him as a villain in the whole trilogy but Chewie shooting the fuck outta him made me happy

>>78262568

They did a really good job making him look so young and innocent. Loved it
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>>78262561
Dooku sucked, just like the rest of the turds called the prequels
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Which would you prefer anons: Han yelling ANAKIN! to Kylo, or keeping it as BEN! instead?
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>>78262583
Lots of people stayed either to listen to the score or expecting some sort of post-credit scene. They wouldn't stop talking about Han, though.

>>78262599
That feel when Poe was my favorite.
I'm a sucker for the pilots.
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>>78262490
>BB-8 and Maz not God Tier
You fucked up
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>>78262503
>I'm glad he proved everyone wrong.

By reproducing every nigger stereotype to the letter? Nah.
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>>78262605

Glad someone else gets it.

Every criticism I hear is LOL EMO TANTRUMS

Kylo being an unstable loon is what makes him one of the best villains we've had. That's why Clone Wars Maul is such a step up from Ep. 1.
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>>78262529
Poe was so fuckingdashming. He's got all the charm and roguish nature of Han with the modesty and good nature of Luke
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>>78262620
Ben is fine. Anakin would really be too much. Might as well throw sand at him too.
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>>78262620
>Naming your son after a mass murderer
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>>78262582
>the clone army was fucking tiny and struggled to overcome what essentially was a coalition of a few PMCs
It was a coalition of rich bastards bankrolling a near endless supply of droids for them to fight against with a handful of competent generals. Clones were superior, they just got zerg swarmed
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>>78262583

My little sister surprisingly didn't like it. We went to the marathon. Her favorites were Ep. 1 and Ep. 6. She's like 14 I think and the first thing she did after it ended was say "It wasn't bad but it wasn't really what I expected...I didn't really care for it."

Was actually surprised I was able to have a semi-intelligent discussion about the movie's flaws with her.
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so i didnt read the books but if the Empire is still around how are they not getting shit for the FO? are they still using old TK armor or the same as the FO?
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>>78262648
Ahh, the EU really was terrible
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>>78262597
Thanks, adding it now

Since I'm here now, let me know if there's anything I've missed, I was kind of avoiding this thread for the last few days
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>>78262658
We don't know, to answer both your questions.
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>>78262630
>http://imgur.com/a/o7sKV
My main gripe with CW Maul was the two sabers, I liked his new personality, but the switch from a saberstaff was inexcusable
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>>78262659
And yet they did evil solo kid better than this glib facsimile
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>>78262620
the moment i recalled Jacen Solo i think it was? kinda liked his story better so far.
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So, next up in Rogue One, right?

That Boba Fett spin-off still a thing?
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If I'm not mistaken the really only overt reference to the prequels was Kylo wanting to make a clone army of soldiers right?
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>>78262659
But the younglings
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>>78262668
I'm pretty sure you're up to date. Thanks for uploading Before the Awakening by the way.
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>>78262683
hahahahahahahahaha


no
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>>78262685

I don't think they've officially confirmed beyond Rogue One and the other episodes
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>>78262620
I'd prefer Ben over Anakin, but Ben is still a terrible choice. If they really wanted a legacy "named after someone important to me" name, it should've been Bail.

Best option would've been to give him his own name and not name him after someone else, though.
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>>78262698
Young Han is confirmed and has directors
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>>78262685
They're still talking about it and the Han Solo movie but it's still just talk.
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>>78262612

Movie Dooku did. Clone Wars Dooku the shit
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>>78262630
Honestly, Kylo is the kind of villain that will be loved by one part of the fanbase and hated by the other. He is not the usual badass terminator-like villain we are used to see in Star Wars, but a more complex character who acts like a real human being which makes him look weak and vulnerable sometimes. That's why I loved him in this movie and I hope they won't waste this unique character and give him a good backstory in the next one.
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>>78262698
Young Han Solo is next. Trank's Boba got pushed (that's not official).
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>>78262620

Ben's fine. It worked both as a callback and to really, unequivocally drive the point home that he really is some scared fucked up kid playing dressup Sith. Han wasn't even mad; he just wanted his kid to come home so they could be a Family again. Shit. Fuckin Chewie mewling to himself in the base was horrible. Luke doesn't even get to see his bro ever again. The look on his face seems like he already knows. Shit hurts.
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Just saw it.
-Finn was great.
-Poe was great.
-Rey was meh-tier, didn't like her.
-Kylo was the best, honestly.
The movie was okay.
A solid 7.6/10.
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>>78262714
>The look on his face seems like he already knows.

There was a small makeshift grave and tombstone by his feet when Rey sees him
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>>78262713
I heard Trank got dropped after FF
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>>78262712

>kind of villain that will be loved by one part of the fanbase and hated by the other.

I love that it's for the same reasons
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>>78262714
>The look on his face seems like he already knows
He probably felt it just like Leia did.

>>78262726
Could be for his wife.
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>>78262732
Correct
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>>78262705
>>78262713
What's the point of having an unrelated movie between the trilogy. Why not a Netflix special or something
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Since the Snoke = Plagueis thing is probably super true, you think he could've blasted the Knights of Ren with super force powers, and as a result the good force could've injected Rey with some bullshit?
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RATE OUT OF 10
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Kylo will kill Luke as well before this trilogy is over. For sure.
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>>78262732
Was he the fucker who considered Fassbender for Boba?
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>>78262747
Movie every year = free money in the pocket

The Netflix show comes later down the line
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>>78262754
7 or 8
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>>78262755

They already did the Obi-Wan death!

>>78262747

>not realizing we're entering to an era of yearly star wars movies
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>>78262755
If he doesn't turn to the light, that is.
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>all these people liking not Jacen
Why. He was awful. Finn and pie saved this movie from him and made it a 6/10 at best
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So did you guys like the OT pandering or did it bother you that the movie didn't really try as hard for its own identity?

I feel like a lot of it is stuff that is hype the first time but will be pretty lame once the NEW wears off. Like Mos Eisley 2.0 was a neat idea but they just panned through it really quick and got to plot I didn't feel like I got a feel for the place it just felt like another shoutout to the OT. And that's what the entire movie started to feel like how rapidly can we throw OT ideas back out at the fans.

I still can't get over how stupid the super death star was and how the plan to destroy it wasn't even creative like the death star it was literally just fly inside and shoot it a lot.

TFA tries to be ANH without any of the tact and creativity that inspired the original.
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>>78262755

nah, Luke and Snoke gonna duel in IX, you'll see
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>>78262752
Snoke has way more in common on the surface with one of Pablo Hidalgo's pet projects from the EU named Cronal. Right down the giant ass hologram version of himself that he projects.
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>>78262754

9/10 for me

its my favorite star wars movie.

there where moments that had me go "huh?" but its not like that doesn't happen in the other movies.

I wish the super weapon had lasted longer but I am at least glad they didn't kill Kylo yet.

Kylo's actor is fugly.
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>>78262747
you'd think the best thing they could do for casuals would do shit set inbetween 6 and 7 to explain shit better
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>>78262754
9
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No one clapped in my theater at all. In fact it felt really somber after the credits. I think the big spoiler really hit people hard. Me and my friends barely talked until we got to the car.

I fucking loved the.movie. But that scene hit us hard.
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>>78262754
solid 9 with V being a 10
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>>78262726
>>78262734

Also seriously; who fucking taught Mark Hamill how to finally act. He has been nothing but honest about his shoddy acting ability over the years, but he gives a single pained-ass fucking glance and you could feel all that shame and sadness and regret. I was expecting his reveal to be rad as shit, not painful.
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>>78262771
So you're saying it was a glib fascimile?
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>>78262757
Rumor was Michael B Jordan... I shit you not.
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I'd rate 9 as well
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Alright so I just got back from the premiere, some initial thoughts

Phasma's dead already? what the fuck
I really wanted to see more of the knights of Ren
I'm glad Han died and not Chewie, I would have cried
I was really hoping there wouldn't be more family drama but whatever, it's not like Kylo has much more family at this point
I liked how Poe, Finn, and Rey were pretty much instant buddies
They really should have made Jakku some other kind of inhospitable terrained planet, it's so obvious the only reason they didn't call it tatooine is because they don't want to make people recall New Hope TOO much


over all I'm still not sure what to think of TFA, beyond it being "better than the prequels" and "J.J. could have done a lot worse"
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>didn't like Finn in the trailers
>completely 180 him
>Rey was okay for me in the trailers
>complete 180
>becomes a fucking bitchy ass Mary Sue
>Leia hugs her for some reason instead of Chewie who would understand her pain a lot more than Rey who only knew Han for a fucking couple of days


Oh also that ending was fucking garbage. It would've made more sense if they ended it with that cut away shot of the Falcon.
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>>78262785

my sister was crying so much, and the moment Han stepped on that bridge I knew it was over.

The second time I saw it I saw 2 girls in their mid 20's also crying her guts out
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Without Kylo I think this movie would have sucked.
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>>78262771
the only thing that triggered me was Rey eatting next to a AT-AT.

probably remember it wrong but i thought they were bigger.
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>>78262770
See >>78262712
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>>78261821
>>78261832
>>78261854
Yeah, not all that emotionally invested in a barely elaborated-on government on a planetary system entirely new to the canon.
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>>78262754
9/10. No Wilheim scream is a minus.
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>Seated in shadow, the tall, slender form loomed over the other two men. Other than the face, only long, spindly fingers showed from beneath the dark robe. “The droid will soon be in the hands of the Resistance,” Snoke declaimed, his voice deep, soothing, and very much that of someone in complete control, “giving the enemy the means to locate Skywalker and bring to their cause a most powerful ally. If Skywalker returns, the new Jedi will rise.”

Seems like there might be other Jedi in hiding?
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>>78262804
shit that reminds me

EVERY time it's the Millenium "Fawlkin" like what the fuck even Han said it like that
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>>78262815
nigga that was one of the first things that happened
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>>78262765
That could also lead to people getting tired of these movies faster

>>78262781
This would make much more sense. Why do we need to know how they got the Death Star plans
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>>78262774

I want to think his giant holo-self is a shoutout to the original idea for Palpatine's hologram in Empire. It wasn't a floating head so much as a room-encompassing hallucination/hellscape that he'd just kind of be in/drift through. It looked terrifying as fuck.
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>>78261821
They let Mon Mothma have her way

She must hang
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>>78262806
>without kyle the movie would have sucked

More emo Jacen was the worst thing. About the whole fucking franchise. Worse than fucking jar jar. >
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>>78262804
>Oh also that ending was fucking garbage. It would've made more sense if they ended it with that cut away shot of the Falcon.


they had to show Luke anon, show that he was still out there
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>>78262815
But there was.
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>>78262796
I got that vibe, matches how SWTOR portrayed it
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Did anyone sweat for a sec when it looked like Starkiller Base glassed Coruscant
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>>78262823
Han's always said it like that.
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So who the fuck was von Sydow's character?
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>>78262825
>>78262835
Well then. Clearly I need to watch the movie again.
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>>78262844
really?

I haven't actually watched the OT in whole since i was like ten
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>>78262842
Yes.
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>>78262780

Anon let the hype wear off before you say shit like that
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>>78262804

I'm pretty sure the only person who didn't know Rey was a Skywalker was Rey herslef. Leia knows. Hell, Han knew.
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>>78262842

a bit, hell I thought it was chandrilla given whats said in Aftermath.

Also kinda stupid of the new republic to leave the bulk of their fleet in orbit over their capital, jesus they should have known better about the first order
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>>78262823
That's pretty much the way I always remember him saying it.
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>>78262831
It would've made more sense if they used that cut away of the Falcon and made it seem like Episode 8 was the hunt to find Luke.


Also
WHY THE FUCK DID LUKE NOT SAY ANYTHING. THEY GO OUT OF THE WAY TO SHOW HIS COOL ASS JEDI MASTER LOOK BUT HE SAYS NOTHING.
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>>78262648
>Naming your son after an old man you spent more time mocking then doing anything else in the short time you knew him.
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>>78262791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkBK0lIeMQU
I'd hate to see some director cast anyone else as Boba out of prequel hate. Nobody could do it better than Tem.
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>>78262668
Here's the new kids books.
ePub/PDF for original
Cbr and mp3 are for the images/audio

https://mega.nz/#F!GxIQDayJ!4ktds1kL_ReGLmNPCMmig
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>>78262864
Absolutely. That's why Leia sent her to get Luke. And that's why Han wanted to "hire" her for his crew. He figured it out pretty quickly.
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>>78262876

he's too old anon
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>>78262826
>That could also lead to people getting tired of these movies faster
the Marvel movies are still going strong as fuck

I do agree that following the capture of the Death Star plans is kinda silly, but anything for a larger focus on the shitholes of the galaxy.
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>>78262799

Phasma isn't dead, she probably escaped with Kylo and others.
We got a tease of them but we'll probably see their full strength on the next movie.
Chewie will now become alcoholic
I felt the family drama was appropriate, and at least they didn't say whether Rey and Kylo where also related.
Their relationship felt rushed but more natural than anything on the prequels.
Yeah, Tatooine is not so unique now.
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>>78262865
How big is their fleet anyway? I know Mothma was talking about heavily centralized demilitarization, and concentrating on local home-defense fleets instead. Of course, a lot can happen in 30 years.
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>>78262880
has the TFA audiobook come out yet?
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>>78262874
He named him after Ben because he shut down a tractor beam that one time.
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>>78262842

I was so fucking hoping it was Coruscant. I thought that would have been ballsy as fuck. I know they still wiped out the seat of the old government, but Coruscant has had fucking weight to the universe for decades now.
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>>78262888

>post your face when: us Phasmafags got BTFO
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>>78262862

I don't care anon, its a new star wars movie, a new era for star wars, that alone makes me tear up.
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>>78262871
I'm glad he didn't say anything. Showed restraint I didn't know they had, especially with all the fucking references Han made.
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>>78262829
Was my main Mon in this movie?
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>>78262897
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>>78262894
Not yet. Check the audio book MEGA in the op periodically I'll have it there when it releases.
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>>78262885

I'm certain he left the Falcon on Jakku specifically for her. The rations trader was the dude who took her from her parents. He wouldn't leave his fucking ship in the middle of fuck all nowhere like that for no reason. He was homed in on it in fucking minutes.
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>>78262910
Not anymore if she was on Hosnian Prime
>>
why did the Tie they took at the begging got sunk into the sand?
>>
The music felt awkward.
It was good, the usual, but off.
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>>78255951
Correction. A SEMI-trained Jedi couldn't stop one of the most powerful Sith Lords in history from reading his mind.

Rey is untrained, but Kylo clearly hasn't had all that much in the way of training either.

Besides, it's quite possible that they're twins. If that's the case, given that neither of them has the advantage of proper training, they're likely too evenly matched for one to overpower the other
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>>78262934
Rey said to bb8 that it would do that if he went that way
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>>78262934
Rey told BB8 not to go in a certain direction, he'll drown in the sands.
>>
Did Luke take the lightsaber?
>>
Kind of want to see this now just because of snek /ss/
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>>78262923
He didn't leave it there, it was stolen from him by Duquesne.
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>>78262897
>friend working on a Phasma for the 501st

i'd lose all motivation for that costume after that. my friend keeps thinking she'll be like Boba and come back or something.
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>>78262939
And if she's Luke's kid I'd imagine she's way more latently powerful than Kylo is.
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>>78262888
Yeah but the Marvel movies are leading up to something, the only thing the Star Wars movies are leading up to is the final movie of the trilogy.

>>78262897
She's gonna get more exposure in the squeal right....right?
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>>78262950

No, but he wouldn't anyway. It was never his in the first place. He needs his green saber. Green is best.
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>>78262950
We'll find out in 525 days
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>>78262880
The link doesn't seem to work
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>>78262937

This wasn't JWill wasn't at its best for this one.

Also,

anybody else felt like the SFX mixing was really shitty? Like, the blasters on the x-wings sounded so low in volume, and the Falcon's blasters didn't have that distinctive sound. Was glad Han's blaster did.
>>
goddamm this movie was either really well paced or it went by too fast, I wouldn't mind if this movie was 3 hours long.

I want a BB-8
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>>78262960
It's possible, I'm still holding out hope.

Guess we'll see what the casting is for the next film...
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>>78262894

I feel like Rey being a Skywalker is too on the nose at this point.

Kylo is obsessed with her.
Anakin's lightsaber reacts to her.
Everyone is acting like they know something about her behind the scenes.
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>>78262974
>Green Lightsaber
>Black robes
>Robot hand
We all agree that this is the GOAT Luke right?
>>
Man, Luke looked liked a saddened but seasoned and powerful badass in that last shot.
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>>78262955

I heard what he said; I just don't believe it.
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>>78262988
You do realize these are the people who just did a remake of episode 4 right?
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>mfw: I already saw the movie twice today, once in Mexico, once in the U.S.
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>>78262991

sort of like obi wan
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>>78262991
I know right?
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>>78262983
>3 hours long

That'll be Episode IX
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>>78262989
He was so fucking cool when he came into Jabba's place like that
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Who else ships poe and finn?
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>>78263006

in my theater, when he took the hood off people were like

>oh shit he took his dad's haircut
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>>78262989
Ya VI was the best Luke
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For real, that Luke at the end was on a whole different level from any Jedi we've seen. He just had an immediate presence of being, to quote someone else in the film, a BIG DEAL.
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>>78262963

Why? Unless Luke was porking some force sensitive chick it shouldn't matter unless there's some kind of midichlorian inheritence rule where the males pass on more than the females.
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>>78262978
Fixed

https://mega.nz/#F!GxIQDayJ!4ktds1kL_ReGLBmNPCMmig
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who was the old guy at the beginning that got killed by Kylo? was he Kanan? I hope he was Kanan
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>>78263025
Thanks bro
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>>78263031
wasn't kanan, at least, thats not what his credit name was
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>>78263031
Lor San Tekka
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>>78263031
Probably Wedge
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>>78262983

Really? I felt it was poorly paced BECAUSE it went by too fast. It felt like they threw a lot of shit at us but didn't give any of it time to stick. This was compounded by the fact that most of it was retreads of ANH plot points.

Like when they're planning to hit the Starkiller the meeting lasted like five seconds.

Finn had an answer for everything and then asian guy is like yeah we just shoot this spot a lot. ALRIGHT BREAK. And they flew off.
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>>78263031
Luke was billed as THE LAST JEDI in the crawl, so I hope not
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>>78263031
In the credits he's listed as Lor San Tekka
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>>78262963
Well, Leia is a Skywalker too, don't forget. Any child of hers would be just as powerful.
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Luke's dingy whiteish robes were so cash. I love my Luke in black but you can't even pretend he didn't look like some awesome enlightened sage.
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>>78263052
He was also billed that way in ROTJ. So I hope not.
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>>78262980
Yeah, it's a bit disappointing. For all the problems the prequels had, Williams still did a fantastic job there. Still, the guy's really old now, so it's not a surprise that he's gotten rusty.

It was still a good soundtrack, just not quite on par with the others (except maybe AOTC, which aside from Across the Stars felt kind of phoned in)
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>>78263066
Really glad they pushed him to lose weight, he looks a billion times better then he did in 2012.
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>>78263049

true, that part felt wrong, but later they explained that Finn was just saying shit so he could go to save Rey, and things just worked out because Han sacrificed himself
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Remember when JJ said what drew him to this job was the question "Who is Luke Skywalker?"

How well do you think the film handled that question?
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>>78262937
>>78262980

There wasn't a single memorable song and the entire soundtrack sounded like slight variations on OT music.
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>>78263073
I loved the Resistance theme song that popped up when they came down to Maz's place and when they were gearing up later. It was almost like the companion piece to the Imperial March.

My favorite piece was easily the end with Rey going to see Luke.
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>>78263049
Who was that Asian actor, he looked familiar

>>78263062
Han tainted the bloodline
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>>78263073
Carrie Fisher also phoned this one in.
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>>78263089

well the whole plot was based on the need to find Luke, so yes.
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>>78263091
>Tfw no duel of fates

Prequel Music > OT > NT
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>>78263089
The question that drew him was "Where is Luke Skywalker" not "Who"

And that's what the purpose of the entire movie is. And it's answered at the end.
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>>78263097

He looked like B.D. Wong to me but I don't think he was.

>>78263100

Did she have a stroke? She talked out of the corner of her mouth the whole time.
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what if they decided Luke shouldn't do anything in this movie because Mark Hammill needs more time to work out to look good in the next one?
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>>78263100
Well that's what she did 30 years ago so... gotta rehash everything
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>>78263106
>Prequel Music > OT
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>>78263097
He was in Lost, the last few seasons. The guy that could talk to the dead.
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will we get Leia holding a lightsaber before she dies?
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>>78263110
He looks pretty good now
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>>78263100
That's nothing new, she phoned in ROTJ too.

So did Ford, and given his cranky attitude towards the franchise and the character of Han, I'm actually surprised that he didn't phone this one in.
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>>78263107
>http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/12/where-is-luke-skywalker-star-wars
>NOT “WHERE,” BUT “WHO”?
>A similar question is actually the thing that made Abrams say yes to directing the film. “In the context of talking about story and laying out what we were thinking, I said one thing to him: ‘Who is Luke Skywalker?’” Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy told EW in August.
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I kinda feel like everything about Episode VII being so secretive hurt it in the end.

Because so much shit was covered up...and then not dealt with at all when the time came so it just ended up disappointing.

Phasma is the perfect example. She got the shit marketed out of her and had like one line and then got Boba Fett'd.
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who else loved that Maz was force sensitive?
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>>78263108
Yeah he kind of looks like BD mixed with Steven Yuen
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>>78263120
Well the new comics are canon, so it already happened
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>>78263130
He hasn't been cranky about it in quite some time.
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>>78263125

not during the time of the shooting
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>>78263106
>implying this isn't the best Star Wars song of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxDm-4Jrg9w
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>>78263137
>>78263137
Eh it made Jacen look menacing instead of an emo 20ish Manchild mad because mommy and daddy didn't love me
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>>78263118
Yup there we go
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>>78263125
Man, I can't wait to see more of him.
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>>78263137
>and then got Boba Fett'd.

At least Boba managed to do something useful in Empire. Phasma did absolutely nothing.
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With this movie its gonna be a while before we get disk packaging that comes in pairs and not odds, this burns my autism.
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So, the question is will it beat Jurassic World's opening weekend number?

The number to beat is $208.8 million
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>>78263082
They got him to quit smoking, too. Hell, he's finding he can pull off the Joker again without fucking himself up as much.
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Cool looking character that does nothing but say one line is a Star Wars tradition. At least Phasma got 2 lines.
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Super Deathstar honestly brought this movie down so much for me. There was no fucking reason for it.

>Starkiller is introduced and used
>We immediately come up with a plan to stop it
>It's immediately blown up

The map to Luke's location was motivation enough to put the two forces against each other.
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>>78263100
She's seperated from her husband, her son is evil, and her brother just split (along with other horrible shit we might not know). On top of that, she's fighting a fucking war. Carried played that part beautifully.
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>>78263186
Didn't it already beat that back on October 20?
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>>78263190
>He will live to do the Killing Joke and new Star Wars movies
What a time to be alive
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>>78263186
Didn't it already hit $100 million in pre-sale tickets alone?
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>>78263186

it was hard for us to get a ticket, so I'd be surprised if it doesnt
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>>78263186
Well it's December instead of Summer so it will be hard. If it comes close it will be super impressive. If it beats it then it will be monumental.
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>>78263162
How do you think he acts? Is he gonna be some crazy eccentric old man who talks to force ghost or a wise silent sage
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>>78263193
We didn't even need a superweapon plot, much less Death Star 3: Death Starrier
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>>78263091

It wasn't bad but it is fucking hard to beat that ridiculous version of 'The Force' from the trailers. I was surprised it was never used in the movie itself (The Force was, yes I know)
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>Phasma was thrown into the literal trash before I could get my dakimakura
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>>78263208
those are not just weekend, includes next week too
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Rumor is it won't do as well as expected because normies think every showing is sold out not realizing it's the widest release of all time.
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>>78263233
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>>78263108

She's come through a lifetime of cocaine and alcohol abuse, not to mention the rampant manic depression. She did all right.
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>>78263220
I think he's going to be more of silent, regretful sage, but I would love if the occasional farmboy came out every now and then.
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So what do you guys think about the new force abilities Kylo used in TFA?

>stopping blaster bolts
>mindrape
>immobilizing people
>knocking people out

I hope they'll introduce more force powers in the sequels. The prequels were pretty lazy in this regard.
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>>78263233
>Kylo was bretty cool
>Figuarts figure just shipped
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>>78263125

Holy shit he just keeps looking better. That is some fucking sex hair.
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>>78263220
Asks Rey for piggyback rides, says it's for training or something
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>>78263254

I like it because it felt like EU stuff without going over the top.

I've always preferred to see force users as super heroes so this tickles my fan dick.
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>>78263233
>>78263247
I'm telling you, she's gonna shine in the squeal
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>>78263252
Kind of like Yoda, except replace "farmboy" with "funny little imp." He still has a few moments of that, even after he stopped faking.
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>>78263262

Think I'm gonna get the Elite Series Kylo now. I loved him
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>>78263254
Interesting, and really added to Kylo's threat factor. Not just another generic Sith.
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>>78263244
If normies won't go then fans will
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Went to the marathon and man I still have no fucking clue what everyone's problem is with Episode 1. I fucking love that movie. It's pure sci-fi adventure fun.
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>>78253913
>He means the EU
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>>78263254
Prequels showed a lot of force mobility that you didnt see in the OT
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>>78263276
Went to the midnight release. Gonna go again in IMAX in a few days.

I think that I can help make up for the gap left by normies.
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>>78259386
That was my biggest issue when I saw it. Everything else I rather enjoyed, even Kylo's inheriting Anakin's penchant for florid dialogue and temper tantrums

For real, I fucking loved how his character is just an emotional wreck with a sword and super powers.
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>>78263282
FUCK YOU
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>>78263282
It's not a great movie, but I think people are too hard on it.
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>>78263271

This is pretty much how he is in Courtship of Princess Leia. He goes full Yoda Jedi master fortelling futures, being the Falcon and literally Walking in the Sky, but still finds time to goof off and joke with Han.
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>>78263300

Not even joking I legitimately enjoy it as much as the OT.
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>>78261812
the entire first order was focused on Rey and Finn. Child's play to get out with that deal.
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>>78263231
I was too, I figured it'd have come up in the final saber duel or fighter attack. Maybe that's on the list for VIII or something. Getting Williams to do more music sooner in case he suddenly dies.

Think it'll be on the OST?
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>>78256712
>>78256908
But Anons, there are two other films your not counting. One of them is canon, too!
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What was up with that line from Finn to Rey? I don't remember the specifics but it was some hokey Episode II shit about Rey making his insides feel fuzzy with the way she looks at him like nobody ever has before.
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Yeah Chewie, fuck them up for what they did!
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>>78263282

the politics are interesting to me because I like that stuff, but there are many things that don't feel well in that movie, everything is just so stiff and I never understood what the treaty was for if they could just take what they wanted from Naboo, also did Palpatine had it in his plans for the Queen to retake her world on her own or did it come as a surprise for him?

Also the Jedi felt like a drag to be a part of.

Take out Jar Jar and its just an slow movie with fun parts here and there.
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>>78263288
Which force powers did the prequels introduce except for the force push in episode 1?
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>>78263351

chewie better tear Kylo's arms apart.
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>>78263361

The Jedi were supposed to feel like a drag. That's the entire point of the prequels.

And I honestly don't mind Jar Jar and think the hate is way fucking overblown
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>>78263348
He just said that she looked at him like no one ever did before.
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Holy shit, the Arclight here in Hollywood has cleared everything else out for Star Wars
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I really disliked how the ol' Child Chiller went to Rey.
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>>78263367
Pre-cog, Force Jump, Force landing, Lightning redirection
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>>78263361

Most of the things you say are true, but it has to be noted, the Jedi in the prequels are intentionally written to be flawed and not the most likable organization. They were part of their own undoing. So that wasn't a problem.
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>>78263392
Tarantino's pissed about this
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>>78263367
Force speed, but you can only use that once
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>>78263348

Nah, it was fine. He's got his spaghetti going but she really probably is the first person who's ever been legit warm/kind to him ever, save best Poe.
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Reminder Rey would've dropped Finn for Poe instantly if they had met
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Just got back

that fucking lightsaber duel at the end

I literally teared up because of how good it was.
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>>78263392
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
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I think once the hype dies down TFA will basically be thought of as "Decent but unoriginal" and be judged probably about Episode III or Episode 6 levels.
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>>78263351

For a minute I almost thought they were going to have Chewie go full murder-suicide. I don't think I would have been able to handle that.
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>>78263401
Luke used force jump in Empire
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>>78263392
>Show up an hour early, think If anything I'm playing it a bit safe for my small town
>the theater is already open, almost all of the seats in the main section are taken
>already a line spilling into the lobby for the showing thats five hours later
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>>78263421
It was just two people wailing on eachother without any kind of skill or showmanship.

It was fucking beautiful.
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I want some of that dust that turns into bread that Rey had.
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>>78263424
Sounds about right. Even the normies have noticed that it rehashes a lot.
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>>78263419
>Reminder Finn would've dropped Rey for Poe instantly if they had met up again sooner
FTFY
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>>78262974
The green is his, he built it. if we're following the new canon crystal takes it's color after the jedi finds/forges it, he was always a green guy.
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>>78263424
Basically this. But it had/has the potential to be something more I reckon.
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>>78263433
Force Flirt as best prequel force power
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>>78263421

Hope you mean Finn/Kylo because Rey/Kylo was shit. It was Rey running away and turning around every five seconds to literally STAB at him.

My first thought was honestly if they even did any choreography with her or just told her to fucking wing it.
>>
Maz's could never have the same impact as the Cantina did, why did they even try
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>>78263450
I hope Episode 8 does something more creative, now that they've gotten the "we need to draw in fanboys by making it as much like the OT as we can" itch out of the way.
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>>78263424
I think it'll depend on the quality of the next two movies. But alone yeah that sounds about right
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>>78263138
She runs a den of scumbags and has a connection to the force like that?
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>>78263470

Because that was literally what this entire movie was about.

People hate the PT because it's not the OT.

So JJ remade the OT.

>Not Tatooine
>Not Mos Eisley Cantina
>Not Death Star
etc
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>>78263470
Hell, even Lucas didn't try. The closest you get is Jabba's Palace but even that's focused on Jabba and there's not a lot of "oh wow look at all these weirdos, what a crazy galaxy!"
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>>78263424
I'm just glad J.J. is the one who was in charge of the safe you-can't-fuck-this-up movie, and not for the rest of the trilogy
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>>78263479
It's practically been laid out for Rian. No lead characters to introduce to us and to get us to like. It can go straight into story.

I'm kinda worried about Trevorrow though
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>>78263479
>>78263450
You want to do something new but not too new, you get JJ Abrams to do it. I think that's why he's off after this. Rian Johnson is the VIII director, right?
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>>78263491
The bar in AOTC mirrors Obi Wan in ANH
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>>78263491
Episode II bar with Obi going for another arm
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>>78263406
>>78263380

I think the intention was to make Anakin be the ones who see the Jedi as a drag, while the audience and other characters see them as the heroes they are meant to be. As it is, its no wonder why anyone would say no to that life.
Like the whole idea of Jedi not being able to Love, that wasn't established in the OT, and I would argue that since the Jedi where meant to be space samurai that they where also able to have wives and sleep around with prostitutes. I've always wanted to see a Jedi be smooth with a lady.
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>>78263504
>I'm kinda worried about Trevorrow though
Yeah, Jurassic World was a great example of "fun if you turn your brain off, really stupid if you stop to think about any of this."
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>>78258657
Remember the giant Emperor hologram in Empire Strikes Back?
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J.J. is so unoriginal that he literally abandoned his actual original main plot, where is Luke, so he could rehash another Death Star plot that was completely unnecessary and added nothing to the plot whatsoever.
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>>78263508
Yeah, never seen Looper but the Breaking Bad episodes he did were pretty good
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I was kinda disappointed in the score.

Other than Rey's theme nothing was that memorable.

I really could have used a fuckawesome FO theme. Feels like Williams kinda phoned it in AOTC-style.
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>>78263511
>>78263516
Yeah, but what I mean is that the scene didn't have the "look, aliens everywhere!" vibe that the cantina did. It was pretty subdued.
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>>78263488
>People hate the PT because it's not the OT.

This is not the reason that people hate the PT. People hate the PT because they are objectionably bad movies and also fucked up the star wars universe.
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>>78258657

I'm glad he was a hologram, the giant creature would be over the top for me, unless he is even moar big than the hologram made it look.
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Anybody else feel like after so much buildup a lot of the payoff was fucking lame?

We found out Kylo is a Solo like a minute into the movie. Phasma goes fucking nowhere. Snoke is revealed immediately as well. There are countless other examples.

Christ J.J. learn to pace.
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>>78263537
Supposedly he's seven feet tall, which isn't too bad
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>>78263545
Basically this. I think the introduction of Starkiller Base basically forced all of the other parts of the movie to be condensed.

If they'd completely written out the Death Star III I think it would've been a far far better film.
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>>78263549
Phew thats only a couple of inches taller than vader suited up
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>>78263545
The film really could've benefited in Rey had her own Binary Sunset moment.
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>>78263545

thats why I went in expecting the worst.

so the good stuff stood out to me more than the bad stuff
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>>78263436
>>78263392
>Ultrascreen theater at the Marcus Theater here just got upgraded and opened for the first time for Star Wars tonight.
>Every single seat in the auditorium is now a Lazyboy recliner

Fuck yeah. Felt good man.
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>>78263545
The build up was figuring out where Luke was. Death Star 3: The Revengance was just to pass the torch to the new generation. We still don't know who Snoke is exactly but Phasma did get fucking jobbed
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So was Coruscant destroyed? Or was the Republic based in another system?
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>>78263564

Super Death Star literally adds NOTHING.

Up until that point the resistance and the First Order are already going at it over the map. Then the Not Death Star is introduced and...nothing changes they're still fighting. JJ just needed something to blow up
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Why were they called the Resistance? They worked with the new Republic and the First Order weren't in power at all.
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>>78254907
Not Caedus, but there were some things I missed. I'll have to wait until I can see the film myself before making my final judgement, but the new status quo looks like almost nothing has gotten better since Palpatine's death, and has actually gotten worse in some ways.
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It's weird I'm normally never fucking critical it's actually kind of a problem sometimes that I can enjoy anything whether it's loving the Phantom Menace or being able to actually sit down and enjoy Sword Art Online.

But I kinda felt empty and disappointed after TFA. I don't even feel like I expected that much to where I'd be that let down.
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When Kylo started marching down the platform toward Rey and Finn after offing his dad I was silently hoping he'd force jump up to the balcony they were on.
It would've fit perfectly in that moment and I was just really thirsting for SOME small connection to the PT.
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>>78263588
Hosnian Prime. Republic's capital is rotated between systems now based on a vote.
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>>78263615
Then you have shit taste. TFA is a legitimately good movie with a few flaws while The Phantom Menace and Sword Art Online are fucking awful.
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I can't put my finger on it but the pacing combined with how little we know made the movie feel really rushed and lacking.

Like I feel like I got no information about the rest of the galaxy after several DECADES. It was just here's the First Order the new bad guys no explanation as to how they ended up a thing nor how far their influence actually reaches. Same for the Resistance.

Like I couldn't tell if the First Order was a new empire or a niche group.
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>>78263594

Take out Starkiller weapon. Make the end battle the rescue of Rey because she has the location of Luke and they need to prevent the FO from getting it. Falcon has to sneak in to bring down shields so the main force can attack the base and distract the FO forces

Bam: better movie.

Don't get me wrong, I liked it a lot, but I'm kinda over SW WMDs
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>>78263622

they do mention clones.and kylo was too injured to jump.
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Journal of the Whills is canon again.
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>>78263622
He was injured by Chewie. Him jumping around afterwards wouldn't have been fitting.
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I won't call her a mary sue but it really irked me how Rey would flip flop 180 so much when it came to being a helpless wreck to a badass jedi. It just made it never feel earned because one moment she was acting like a retard and then she was more competent than Kylo. And it happened more than once.
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I fucking loved Chewbacca's rampage.
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>>78262989
Before the prequels I always thought Lukes look at the end of RotJ was the kind of uniform Jedi wore as opposed to the Tatooine robes.
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>people actually wanting snoke to be plageius
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>>78263672
Needed a Stormtrooper getting an arm ripped off to be 100%, but it was great still.
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>>78263642
Basically this.
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>>78263654

Seen a lot of people shit on Kylo for being weak and while I do thing Rey being so proficient with a saber is retarded I saw someone point out that just the shockwave from a blast from Chewie's bowcaster was sending Troopers fucking FLYING and Kylo tanked one straight to the stomach. So he was probably pretty fucked up and only holding it together because of how strong he was.
>>
Dude, we need a new thread pronto.
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>>78263689
Before that she was able to out force Kylo. And then mind trick the guard.
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>>78263615
>loving the Phantom Menace
I hope you get run over
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>>78263727

let me guess hurr durr jar jar and trade stuff
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It's been so long since the PT I forgot what it was like to have to wait so I was honestly disappointed with how little they actually told us about...fucking anything.

The ONLY think we find out is who Kylo is and that's in the first five minutes. Every other question we had went unanswered and we have to wait another two years for more.
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>>78263735
I was actually disappointed there was no politics in TFA.
>>
Can't tell if I'm just a cynical asshole or the film really wasn't all that.
>>
Does Before the Awakening or the TFA Novel have audiobooks?
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>>78263754
Bit of both probably.
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>>78263747

Who the fuck thought we'd think that?!

(I agree, I'm super curious about the state of the galaxy)

>>78263754
Expectations dude. It's all about managing expectations.
>>
>awkward as fuck moment when whole theater cheers for random Mon Cala thinking it's Akbar
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>>78263747
it makes more since in TFA since its been thirty years after the GCW we should want to know whats up. instead of trade shit years before the Empire we figure whats the fucking point
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>>78263791
It was Ackbar though...
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>they say Poe is the best pilot of the resistance
>they show him being awesome at piloting.

that alone makes this better than the other movies
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>>78263791

(It was Ackbar.....)
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>>78263799

Was it? Looked way young and different just figured it wasn't
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>>78263811

It was Ackbar

His name showed up in the credits.
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>>78263804
Rogue One should be about Poe and his unit
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“I know what I have to do, but I don’t know if I have the strength to do it.” Ren moved out onto the walkway toward Han. “Will you help me?”

“Yes,” Han told him. “Anything.”

Halting an arm’s length from his father, Ren unclipped his lightsaber, looked down at it for a moment, and then extended it toward Han. For an instant that seemed to extend into forever, nothing happened. Smiling, Han reached for the weapon. Then, as the light from outside was fully blocked by the flow of descending, accumulating dark energy, Ren ignited the lightsaber—and the fiery red beam lanced outward to pierce Han’s chest from front to back.

“Thank you,” Ren murmured, and truly, the darkness above was mimicked by the darkness in his voice.
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>>78263811
It was just some new prothestics it looked more shiny than what we were used to so I can see why you thought it might have been someone else. I was just waiting for him to say its a trap somewhere.
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>>78263824

[/spoiler] that should have been the moment Ren got Sith eyes [/spoiler]
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>>78263824

Was expecting "Die" after he said he needed Han to do something and Han said he'd do anything.
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>>78263424
>Decent but unoriginal

There is unoriginality and there is such a point-by-point rehash that you can change a few bits of dialogue and name it a remake.

Once the hype dies down TFA will be thought as either the lowest point of the franchise or the point from which it started its death spiral.
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>>78263841

Not at all. It's still competently made and will always be compared favorably to the prequels
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>>78263840
Same
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>>78262205
>That's the point, it's the first movie in a trilogy you're supposed to leave you wanting more.

IV and I were complete stories that left hooks for the future but completely resolved their current plots. You are literally saying that lowering the standards of filmmaking is the point. You're either a fool or a shill.
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>>78263824
>>78263840
Was half expecting Kylo to go "Pssh. Nothing personal...kid..."
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>>78263649

YES. The Star Wars is so fucking good. I love the OT novels.
www.mwjx.com/other/book/english/s/starwar/

Read this shit.
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>>78263804
Maybe I've been spoiled by japanese animes like Macross and so forth but his X-wing stunts didn't look quite crazy enough for a "best pilot in the resistance" to me.
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I really enjoyed it. I know it had flaws and some pacing issues.

But as a whole, I enjoyed it far more than the prequels. The new characters were really enjoyable.
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>>78263860
"Pssh. Nothing personal...Daddy..."
FTFY
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>>78263859

Yeah I never felt like I had questions at the end of ANH or Empire. Everything was wrapped up and ready for the next episode. But they told us fucking nothing about anything in this movie.
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Was I supposed to know who Max von Sydow's character was?
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>>78263840
I'm glad he didn't.
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New thread
>>78263875
>>78263875
>>78263875
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>>78263882
No one knew who he was, it was one of the many things they skirted over
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>>78263882

That's what I wondered too. They made him sound like some important Alderaanian
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>>78263881
>Yeah I never felt like I had questions at the end of ANH or Empire.

Dude Empire ends with the biggest cliff hanger in movie history and you went home from it without any questions?
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>>78263859
These movies are built around connecting them to the sequel so they leave you wanting more. ANH was made in a different time
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>>78263851
>It's still competently made

Kek. Only the action was competently made. The core part of Star Wars' identity - showing us something that we've never seen on the screen before in each new installment - was completely absent. In fact, it was as if they were trying to be as stale and unimaginative as possible in their visual designs. Character development was fuckawful, and so was acting of the new actors.

>and will always be compared favorably to the prequels

It already is compared unfavorably to them.
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>>78263910
>These movies are built around connecting them to the sequel so they leave you wanting more. ANH was made in a different time

So you are still literally saying that lowering the standards of filmmaking is the point. And you're still either a fool or a shill.
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>>78263903

What question would you have at that point? You know Han is in carbonite and bein taken to Jabba. There's no question there.
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>>78263747
Even the OT had politics, ANH had sense enough to discuss the political state of the galaxy. We don't need long senate scenes but it's bizarre for any political talk to be completely absent.
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>>78263940
That's subjective. Personally I'd like it if it could be it's own contained story
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>>78263613
cause they fought the first order in their own system duh
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>>78263615
>liking TPM
>Liking SAO
Jesus you are cancer
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>>78263440
Am I the only one who got RotJ vibes from it?
Great fight, better than a majority of the prequel fights
Kylo's light saber is fucking beautiful
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>being a disneybaby
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How did Poe survive? It wasn't very clear.
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>>78264306
uh, he explained it exactly, how was it not clear?
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>>78264319
I just remember him talking about waking up somewhere. Did he wake up before Finn and left him there? Did he sink with the Tie but survive anyway?
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>>78263137
Boba Fett at least shoot his weapon once.

Also, the biggest problem is that Phasma was played by an actress better than the majority of other new additions, so it was just an incredible waste because anyone could've played what's ultimately a joke character at best and background prop at worst.
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>>78262846
I honestly thought he was the guy who briefed the Rebels on the plan to Attack the Death Star
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>>78265005
Thats Dodanna, he'd be logically dead, or extremely old, tho I am guess the white haired man in the resistance base might be him or Meaden.
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>>78254293
Hux pushed the kill button on a half-dozen worlds with a gleeful smile. He's a great character, but any hint at redemption would come across as awkward to me.

I can see Phasma being turned in the 'just following orders vein' if the possibility or problem of stormtroopers going rouge comes up again, or if there is a First Order faction disinclined to be governed by the Sith.
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>>78256908
Seeing the victims of those worlds witness their own impending destruction in VII hit a lot harder than the quick-blast of Alderaan.

I was surprised at myself.
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>>78259267
Vader didn't order the destruction of the planet, Tarkin did.
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>>78259386
I can forgive that because it quickly becomes apparent that they are the next to be targeted. Mourning and shock would have to be put aside to deal with the imminent threat.

How they just let it come about in the first place though is certainly odd. Not as bothersome as a lowly ex-stormtrooper standing up to a Sith for even a few seconds, but still irksome.
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>>78261821
It's made clear that the New Republic are either shielding the Resistance from reprisal or actively supporting their operations in First Order territory.

Hence [/spoiler]their capital system is the first target and not known Resistance locations[/spoiler]
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