What character would you paint on the side of a plane?
I would love Reverse flash running on one side, flash on the other.
Not him, but I kinda am, is she fat? I like them plump. but if they're old, really skinny is cool too.
Is that true? Like, was there a myth during WWII that planes with characters on them got shot down more?
I'm legit interested now.
A minimalist version of Man-Thing's face with the phrase "Whatever knows fear..."
He just found out his girlfriend is his half-sister, leave the guy alone.
That was the best pussy he ever had and now he has to spend Christmas awkwardly pretending nothing happened while their reconciled parents encourage them to get to know one another better.
They're planning on going to see the new Star Wars together. I mean, can you imagine anything more awkward than Luke and Leia reminding you for two damn hours that you've been balls deep in your sister's asshole and she licked it clean after? Balls deep, anon. In his sister's asshole. Making wookiee noises all night long.
Alan Scott, with BEWARE MY POWER written right next to him.
The qt aircraft carrier grill I launch from.
Japan you'd be endearing if I didn't know how creepy you were.
Maybe if she were young, hot and in lingerie.
The JSDF needs more recruits. They're hoping anime will bring them in.
Maybe. I wouldn't mind flying an attack helicopter with my waifu painted on the side.
can't I just use her as a plane?
>'Anon objectifies women!'
>THIS IS THE RATTLEHEAD, WE'RE FUCKING HIT...WE'RE GOING DOWN...AWWW FUCK.....chcherrrrrrrrrr
LONG AGO, IN A DISTANT LAND - I, A-10, THE GROUND ATTACK AIRCRAFT OF DARKNESS, UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE BULLETSTORM!
>>painting little girls on the side of your aircraft
>You're supposed to put things you want to fuck on there, I don't think your fellow pilots would like that.
No, not at all.
Bomber nose art was a cool thing. Pinups were popular, but far from the only ting.
Flak Bait is one of the most famous planes of the war, and THE most famous plane, Enola Gay, was named for the pilot's mother.
The backup plane, that bombed Nagasaki, was named Bock's Car. The pilot was named Fred Bock.
Also there was a B-17 with the 8th AF named Sweet Pea that was named after a 4 year old war orphan that the bomb squadron basically adopted. They had her dip her hand in paint and put a hand print on the nose.
In addition to this, there was a lot of nose art with looney tunes and disney characters, or dudes, or whichever.
It's a morale thing
>Also there was a B-17 with the 8th AF named Sweet Pea that was named after a 4 year old war orphan that the bomb squadron basically adopted. They had her dip her hand in paint and put a hand print on the nose.
Nigga that's kawaii
>the 8th airforce alone lost more men than the entire marine corps during the war
>with 13 men per plane and a rate of downings of around 40% per mission it was deadlier to be in the air than fighting as an infantryman
That poor girl
10 men per plane actually
and it wasn't 40% per mission, they had milk runs too
The attrition rate was horrific early on in the war but seriously improved later with a change in tactics, bombing targets, and when the luftwaffe got the everliving shit kicked out of them by our fighters
If I didn't know what that was from it'd actually be pretty horrifying/badass
Only if your aircraft is green.
Holy shit that's so cute. What happened to her?
I know that's my point. If said Politician was hot, I don't see why not. I'm assuming that Riyo has a certain amount of celebrity, she rubbed shoulders with Troopers, she was hot, why not?
Plus one of the Clones really wanted to call it Gunship Diplomacy and Anakin would've literally murdered them if they used Padme.
Classic Powergirl holding a cartoon bomb over her head.
I mean I feel that basically says all you want to with a plane.
Powerful, sexy, and about to fuck your shit up.
>I'm assuming that Riyo has a certain amount of celebrity, she rubbed shoulders with Troopers, she was hot, why not?
Because she's a pacifist and putting her on an instrument of death goes against everything she stands for?
Actually the Sweet Pea suffered a major flak impact which nearly tore the plane in two. Two of the crew were killed and a few others injured but the plane miraculously held together long enough to make it back to base.
The plane was actually repaired and flew in several more combat missions before crashing during a take-off accident in '45
I'll just leave this here.
Yes, this is for real. Apparently did wonders for recruitment, but the Jap brass made them take it off after awhile.
Man, if I was a clone pilot, I'd try to get Aayla Secura on mine but then I'd probably get in trouble with the Jedi and probably a stern talking to from Secura herself if she wasn't too embarrassed.
Such is the fate of so many planes.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't see why they should have bothered taking them off. First off all, they're not exactly in an active combat situation, as I understand, they're trying to focus on recruitment, so keeping those things on and letting the new recruits fly those around will continue to bring in recruits.
Plus I think even if Japan did get involved in a fight, they should keep those on for the first month because I could imagine their enemies freezing up with a severe case of "what the fuck?"
BUT, A FOOLISH F-35, WIELDING A BLOATED R&D BUDGET STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE ME!
First of, that's bullshit, it barely did anything for recruitment
Second, those girls are just actors/pop stars and not pilots, and this was a publicity stunt, not a recruitment campaign.
I dunno, given Jedi are normally supposed to be detatched from such things, I think at most they might be confused, Secura herself might even be flattered though given her dress and such is an homage to proud twi'lek "let's sell our most beautiful into sex slavery and deal drugs to the rest of the Galaxy" heritage.
Seriously, I feel bad for Twi'leks from Ryloth, there is jack shit to be proud of about their heritage.
It would be my way of being subversive. Beetle doesn't want to fight. He's basically a lazy pacifist.
Fun fact - most aircraft in boneyards are mothballed but left in, basically, operational condition.
If the US ever finds itself in a serious military situation where existing aircraft aren't enough (like fucking WWIII levels of shitstorm), basically every aircraft in storage at these facilities could be fixed up and ready for combat within a matter of weeks.
accompanying name-art in the style of the show title cards "Breakin the law"
There's issues with what image you're trying to portray and militaries are usually not allowed to make killing machines look silly.
Like, if I were to paint that on the side of an apache or some such (And this would happen with any military) and it was shown to the public like those helicopters were, it would turn into a huge scandal cause you'd have a large section of people wondering why I'm not taking my job (killing the enemy) seriously and making it seem like some big joke.
Certain nose art is okay, but big silly anime girls would be over the line
you can get away with other forms of nose art but it is generally small, tame, and subdued. Also, it has to be approved by a few channels before it gets allowed and good luck getting it approved during peacetime.
The big exception is the 23rd fighter groups A-10s with their shark's teeth nose art that are sanctioned due to tradition
Source: I've been briefed on similar topics
>basically every aircraft in storage at these facilities could be fixed up and ready for combat within a matter of weeks.
They actually did this recently with a B-52, pretty interesting story
Also, not every aircraft is able to be rebuilt, there are a lot of B-52s that are chopped up for START treaty agreements and plenty of aircraft that are stripped for parts
The US has the first largest Air force in the active AF, the second with the Navy, the third with the Marines, and the fourth sun tanning in the desert just in case.
Additionally, it now has more tanks than every other country combined because the congress forgot to turn off the factories and we've been pumping out Abrams non-stops for decades.
It's ridiculous how OP America has become, and yet Chinks and Rusdians keep wailing about the impending doom of America.
Interesting read, though when you put it like:
>t would turn into a huge scandal cause you'd have a large section of people wondering why I'm not taking my job (killing the enemy) seriously and making it seem like some big joke.
It kind of makes people's reactions to such things seem ridiculous and dumb. I mean, shit, as a civilian, I say if my military wants to paint cute girls and silly pictures on their death machines, then let them, they need outlets for their feelings and thoughts too.
And shit, now I'm imagining someone making the "most minimal Loss" comic into nose art.
Why do you pretend to be peaceful, America? Why do you try to please European ingrates and cretins, instead of claiming your spot as the ultimate warrior race? As Earth's dormant legion?
>It kind of makes people's reactions to such things seem ridiculous and dumb.
The tough part is is when they're taxpayers. When taxpayers make a stink, congress makes a stink, and then everything stinks.
Another interesting thing (and I've hears multiple accounts of this) where a group or unit was chastised for their facilities looking too nice because it would send the wrong idea to the taxpayer: that, even though it may not have actually cost any extra to do it, the military was wasting money on fancy billets or some such
The F-22 is the best damn thing ever put in the air, why did we need some new plane that's WORSE and MORE expensive? The whole point of the 35 was to be cheaper then the 22!
that's awesome. please god tell me they actually tried firing all of them and the phantom stalled and the pilot shit his pants.
I would write Gerard Butler in bright yellow Futura Extra Bold Condensed on a silverplate B-29, and then go bomb Japan.
DAMN RIGHT AND I'LL DO IT AGAIN
CUZ' I AM RIGHT SO I GOTS TO WIN
>Plus one of the Clones really wanted to call it Gunship Diplomacy and Anakin would've literally murdered them if they used Padme.
Are you not aware that literally happened in the show?
I'd totally paint Beta Ray Bill on there, no question
None of you would be painting anything on yours.
Paint was something you were expected to apply yourself in World War 1, as a means of camouflage. Except some individuals, particularly suicidal ones like Baron von Richthofen, painted theirs in striking colors so they'd get engaged. Eventually towards the end they figured out effective patterns rather than sibgle colors work best. Also painting the top of the plane like the ground, bottom like the sky.
For WW2, the nations quickly phased out any remnants of WW1 tactics (the US entered WW2 with biplanes still in service) and focused on unpainted planes since oaint weighs more than its worth in camo, and anything camo would save is better off flying at night (something not feasible in most cases in WW1). Some pilots, especially American ones, were allowed to paint parts of their plane in logos or basic colors to boost morale. Since these paint jobs were decided on by the pilot and someone in the crew had to do it, they varied in theme and quality greatly.
But as footage of the front came out as historical reels in the 50's, along with surviving planes being used patriotically in parades, people back home realized that good ol' dad was flying a bomber with a picture of mommy dearest naked with legs spread while uncle had Mickey Mouse giving the middle finger with a bomb between his legs like a boner on his.
So from that point on, you can have a simple and approved emblem for your squadron in some cases like a picture of a jack of clubs poker card or a shooting star on the back wing, but its strictly regulation only. Planes now are basically just their material, no paint unless its an airshiw piece or indicates service branch.
Why don't you go suck a cock, we're trying to have a fun little thread here.
Holy autism batman. I bet you're fun at parties
Maybe I'd go with best rocket raccoon
The Sextuplets from Duckman.
Seen near the end of the episode.
USAAC aircraft in ww2 stopped wearing camo paint because those types were assigned to fly high-altitude escort where getting as high up as possible, and therefore carrying as little weight, was vital. Medium and low-altitude aircraft still sported camo patterns, as did fighters not strictly assigned for high-altitude escort.
Camo paint only started getting phased out of US air fleets when radar was sufficiently powerful to outrange optical scopes and BVR combat between aircraft became a serious thing. Even today the "non-camo" paint used on US and other aircraft are specially designed universal low-visibility greys with some radar absorbent elements, so it's still a camouflage patter, just one that just doesn't rely on the local environment. However, several countries still practice environmental camouflage patterns on their aircraft for more than tradition's sake. Camo has always been more about hiding the planes on the ground than in the air to begin with.
I'm not trying to start anything, I'm just a giant dork.
Well, its not like first world nations don't hire mercs still.
They paint it themselves or get a guy on the same base who is an artist (not too hard in the draft era) to do it, usually for a favor or some chunk of wages.
Fuck, if you were an artist you'd be doing everything from the Christmas cards of your commanding officer to painting a guy's photo of his girlfriend on his helmet.
can't stop the BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
I have an an assumption that the Snoopy Red Baron would already be taken.
Who better to put on your war machine than the personification of God's vengeance and wrath?
I'd named it An Act of God.
I thought the same thing until i saw it at an airshow.
When you think about it given how they pretty much beat the laws of physics into submission just getting of the ground there is probably heaps you wouldn't expect. Just needs a pilot insane enough to try and skilled enough to not die.
10/10 Would fly with.
My uncle was a huge Vampirella fan, and I ended up being a huge Lady Death fanboy thanks to him introducing me to that universe. Both would be prime decals.
The /co/cksucker in me would paint Lady Death, but the fa/tv/irgin would be 100% behind Elvira.
>''Air Control, This is Ghost Rider. permission to rain fire''
Because of the Shark tradition, as anon mentioned, I think I would want something toothy and sharky for nose art. Pic related.
That one shark from DC who smashes shit, eats people and sings.
Second choice would be a Streetshark
Third choice would be that Barracuda dude. Just the tiger shark pattern except with gold teeth that spell FUCK YOU might be enough to make my day.
The limit of modern US military power is popular support.
And America's big successes in war haven't been as much about being the ultimate warrior as about economics and industry.
they also have two completely different purposes. The F-22 was designed as an F-15 replacement (air superiority) while the F-35 was designed as a replacement for the F-16/Harrier (multirole/air to ground)
Only blacks and Japanese were segregated/barred from flying.
There were no black bomber crews during the war (save for some B-25 crews they trained for a bit, but never saw action) but the tuskegee airmen were, of course, a thing
there's a bunch of reasons:
>paint issues (camouflage and some paints are radar absorbent)
>trying to set rules on what can and can't be painted
It's easier to just make bar all of it unless authorized by the wing commander
I actually don't see a problem with that. They were not raised together and the only issue would be if there are genetic diseases from the dad side and even if there are there are contraceptive methods and pre-natal exams.
>The big exception is the 23rd fighter groups A-10s with their shark's teeth nose art that are sanctioned due to tradition
Anime Eldrich abomination like characters would be cool and intimidating.
>characters are bad luck
Yeah. For Nazis.
>Ace pilots whose life was exciting enough to make into a movie took the time to sit calmly after combat and read with passion comic books made by some 30y/o associal guy in his NY or LA office.
Is this the glory of being a cartoon author?
Assuming its a heli of some sort and I can blast synthwave.
And it could have been twice as large. They backed off only because as you approach 100 megatons, you have really diminishing returns as the explosion is so fucking massive that a lot of it would escape Earth's atmosphere and cause no more damage on the surface.
Yes. That is a steamroller. And each bomb represents one bombing mission.
> The bomber had a role in the 1970 movie Catch-22.
>Her war service includes 38 bombing missions including kills of two Japanese Zeros, two ships, and a steamroller.
Steamrollers would have been very important to Japanese airbases.
Although BRRRRRT is always good, I think synthwave might go better with rocket pods. Of course on some of those, you don't have to choose.
30 mm rotary autocannon vs boat full of terrorists. First min and a half is making sure they're blowing up the right shit.
>30 mm rotary autocannon vs boat full of terrorists. First min and a half is making sure they're blowing up the right shit.
it's a single barrel ATK M230 autocannon
here you can see some gnarly footage of it disemboweling and shredding a bunch of people
there's nothing more terrifying that something that flies so high up above you are not even sure it's there, sees everything, hunts you down like an child with a magnifying glass, and can randomly turn you into a pile of hamburger meat in an instant.
Except the F-22 can be kitted out for multi-role support too.
I once heard a pilot refer to flying the 22 as the closest thing to being God. Don't the insurgents in the middle east call them silent devils or something worse? Because if you can hear them, it's too late to run any you're already dead.
>30 mm rotary autocannon vs boat full of terrorists
I know absolutely nothing about war or weapons. What the fuck is that? Is that a GUN?! And they're shooting from an helicopter or what?
How large is that boat? That's a lot of water. Holy shit modern weaponry is absurdly powerful.
F-22's weren't built with all the branches in mind, marines badly needed to replace harriers, navy needed to replace F-18's, and the air force was looking to replace F-16's. So they said fuck it and decided to one joint program. Plus the production line for the F-22's had already closed down.
In the long run the F-35 was cheaper choice, all the branches get what they want out of a base plane and they upgrade all the Nato shit as well and not have to worry about trying to supply parts for a bunch of different aircraft.
Something like this?
Not that far. It ain't called close air support for nothing.
that's the 30x113mm round the Apache's cannon uses. Like most airborne guns it loads explosive shells to fuck up infantry with shrapnel and concussive force(it's warhead is about as powerful as a hand thrown grenade).They fire bursts to saturate an area, the reason you see people limping away slowly after the guns hit nearby is because they have their eardrums blown out and are likely full of internal injuries on top of being peppered with shrapnel and bleeding all over. Pilots just put them down out of mercy.
These cannons usually have a Depleted Uranium armor piercing shell loaded in the chain every 5 or so rounds in case they need to defeat light armor or fortifications.
Well it gets right proper fucked by conventional fighters and AAA, but sand niggers dont have either of those things so it gets to run rampant and kill terrorist with relative impunity
>it's warhead is about as powerful as a hand thrown grenade
Those things are massive. I have read somewhere how absurdly destructive a grenade is and that's just fucked up.
> Depleted Uranium
What does it do?
I don't really care about conflicts or war or weapons, I kind of dislike all of this stuff in general if not for the technical aspect, but it's bizarre seeing this compared to the things you get to see about, say, WW2. We really are disconnected from certain aspects of reality.
>What does it do?
being hard as all fuck and going through steel like butter.
>I kind of dislike all of this stuff in general if not for the technical aspect, but it's bizarre seeing this compared to the things you get to see about, say, WW2. We really are disconnected from certain aspects of reality.
oh, war hasn't changed THAT much, you should see what a straffing WW2 fighter does. We humans are made of really soft putty all in all.
Eh. Kind of sad that all of this effort is going into killing each other. But alas that's inevitable.
I still don't know what I'd paint on the plane, or what I'd call it. Shit's harder than I thought.
Somewhat /co/ related due to comics.
Really though, it'd be more fitting on the side of a bomber.
Yes, the Marines only have baby carriers so space is limited.
The Marines have smaller Aircraft Carriers, so they need planes to take up less space.
America has, what, the 3 largest air forces in the world. Not even joking. The Air Force, then the Navy are the two biggest, then I think the Marines. I'm pretty sure the Army is in the top 10 as well.
Navy's carriers are big. The Marine's not so big.
It's really interesting that they eventually decided to go on such a stretch to fit those helicopters into smaller carriers because that strikes me as a structural weakness and a whole lot of additional machinery inside the helicopter. Is there even anything like "war economics" or something like that?
So to the Anons that clearly know what they're talking about, is there anything you can tell us about the space-plane from last year? The X-37B? I remember that when that craft landed it made headlines for about 24 hours and then completely dropped off the radar.
I hope they still have carriers. Otherwise those F-35Bs they ordered ain't got nowhere to go.
Westland Lynx - also still holds the airspeed record for helicopters IIRC. Still in service with the British Army although it's considered too small for most modern transport operations. Navalised versions still used by the RN for sub-hunting.
>Horrific attrition rate of WW2 allied airmen.
To my understanding, that was one of the reasoning behind the nose cone art. The brass understood that telling a guy to man a bomber when the numbers were so bad was a figured thing to do. So they gave them way more leeway on minor offenses. Defacing military property with crudely-scrawled pornography? Illegally modifying their (already cool as fuck) bomber jackets with patches and shit? Fuck it, who cares!
The kid's probably gonna be dead in a month anyway. And if he's not, hopefully all that nosecone art will puff up his pride in being cool to the point where it outweighs his desire to not get shot at by flak guns.
Just people not knowing what they're talking about exactly as they aren't aircraft carriers, they're assault ships. They usually only carry around 6-8 fixed wings (was harriers but those are getting replaced with F-35's), then they have their cobra's, a good bulk of the helicopters are utility/transport, other than that, the rest of (and majority) of that ship is packed with ground vehicles. HMMWV's, 7tons, LAV's, landingcraft and their arty.
Despite what it might look like on the outside, the second you go inside it becomes pretty apparent that it isn't a aircraft carrier.
They have a new almost american sized one coming out which is going to have their f-35s on board.
As a note, the CVNs will be replacing the Blackhawk with the Osprey within a decade, at least in the Pacific fleet. It's unpopular because the birds are huge even when folded, they're hangar queens, and the Okinawans hate them due to fear mongering propaganda by nationalists.
this would be great on the side of a plain
It's a shame that the B-70 never became a thing.
This is keen.
In the slomo version, notice how the fireball is relatively dim, then suddenly flashes brighter?
The reason is, the initial plasma ball is so dense it's opaque and traps alll the photons inside. Then, when the density falls enough, FLASH!
Blast, flash, shock. The deadly trinity of nuclear weapons.
Kids these days, you all missed the joy of the Cold War. (shudder)
>And it could have been twice as large. They backed off only because as you approach 100 megatons, you have really diminishing returns as the explosion is so fucking massive that a lot of it would escape Earth's atmosphere and cause no more damage on the surface.
Yes indeed, weapons so strong the limiting factor is you blow a hole in the ATMOSPHERE.
>"Real American" starts playing
There's only so much room on a ship.
They're still bigger than an Essex-class. Kind of fucked how all the old carriers names are used to ferry Marines, but the big CVNs get named after politicians who couldn't master stairs.
Man fuck whoever decided to start naming carriers after Presidents.
Shit, is just fucking enraging at this point. Let's dump all this fucking money and technology into these ships, then give them the lamest laziest fucking names we can think of.
Those were B-25s.
Even in their day they were like gigantic fighters.
and the OG BRRRRRRRRRTTTT
>> baby carriers
>I'm clueless, is this ironic or is it jargon for something
Heh, yeah, if you total up all the supercarriers and assault ships, the US has like 40 aircraft carriers all totaled.
On top of the Army and the Air Force.
Pray we never go Roman Empire.
Putin is a lunatic, but are we seriously still afraid of an Armageddon scenario with Russia? Isn't the real threat a single city being obliterated thanks to Iran, the Saudis, and/or Pakistan?
Cute. Make way for a B-25 with a 75mm take gun.
>but are we seriously still afraid of an Armageddon scenario with Russia?
The Russians have an autonomous, automatic launch system.
Strangely a lot of those men got cancer later in life somehow.
True fact: In the history of the United States, there has been ONE president who abused the Oval Office so badly we AMENDED THE CONSTITUTION to make fucking sure nobody else ever pulled the same fucked up shit.
Give you one guess who that evil sack of shit was.
He just trying to sit on his ass as long as he can and doing nothing. Thats the whole plan. Quick, send it to pentagon.
No they don't. They just selling oil since 90's and do nothing. You government just scaring you with stupid bullshit so they can put more tax money into military. NATO wins. Everything over. Happy end.
This is /v/ but still
>Oh fuck me, I always thought that was an urban legend. Even the name just screams /x/ paranoia.
Oh, yeah, that was the Cold War. Day after week after month after year for decades....
God, I still remember when the Berlin Wall fell, it was like...miracles. It was OVER. After your entire life spent under the blade, it was over.
Terrorists bullshit barely even registers, although if Iran gets a nuke things are likely to get nasty again..
It was Roosevelt, and not the cool one.
Note the date of ratification. That evil fuck was still warm when they slammed the door shut on anybody else ever pulling that shit.
There were also concerns that an explosion of that magnitude (100 megatons) might set the atmosphere on fire. The scientists on the Manhatten project had similar concerns that proved unfounded, but the fact that the Soviets gave it consideration at all should be indicator enough of how much more powerful Tsar Bomba was than the first American nuclear devices.
We're talking the difference between ten kilograms and one hundred tons here, and the -Russians-, the kings of indiscriminate overkill themselves, felt that 50 was overdoing it.
>>Oh fuck me, I always thought that was an urban legend. Even the name just screams /x/ paranoia.
Try not to think to hard about what the numbers stations were used for.
Both had carriers named after them.
>The "combat readiness" of this system was again confirmed in November 2015 by the Rossiiskaya Gazeta, as reported by the BBC.
>>The "combat readiness" of this system was again confirmed in November 2015 by the Rossiiskaya Gazeta, as reported by the BBC.
Yeah, it's likely the Dead Hand system is why Russia is so pissed off about US's anti-missile systems.
Hopefully Dead Hand only fires a few missiles, so the missile defense system can shut it down. So of course the Russians just add more missiles to it!
Escalation, provocation, proxy wars....
Oh my, it's like the Cold War is coming back!
You poor ignorant fucks have no idea what it's like.