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Reposting Dominica's art
Anons, please. We have a fresh new thread. Let's try to make it slightly less terrible than the last one.
Dominica's other art from last thread.
Have we've been getting fucked with by an interdimensional leprechaun this whole time?
I have a strong feeling that's what going to happen in the end.
Seems like it.
In any case. If you're still around and reading this Sqoou, the easiest way to make everyone not hate you, is to just stop ever using the name.
You are on an anonymous image board.
Use that fact to your advantage. If you never write Sqoou again, and just post like a normal person, then everyone will forget you exist and you can be a part of /gfg/ just like every other anon here.
Dude, you know it's just gonna be Shipless Dip.
Pacifica will get three lines, and then stop being relevant.
I'll continue tomorrow guys, sorry... You really cheered me up, and I'm thankful for your support to no end.
Thank you Nontoxic <3
I really enjoyed reading this... Even though I use a trip, I still engage in discussion as an anon... I wouldn't want Dominica to constantly shine when I want to reply something simple to somebody (sometimes I accidently do though). I guess I can understand why people dislike trip names... I'm not sad to admit I lurk here everyday (Y) [I don't want gf to enddd...]
>Pacifica will get three lines, and then stop being relevant.
She'll get the llama sweater from Mabel, that's a "thank you" right off the bat, I can imagine her being badass against Bill and throwing some cliche lines here and there. In the end, you're probably right.
Shame, because I'd like to see much more of her post-NMM character.
I think in general, even if you have something to share from it, don't. At least not here.
The way you showed up caused a lot of damage to the name. Anything you say as Sqoou at this point is probably going to be met with derision. If you want to bring anything up, just share it from anon. It's the better way to do it anyways.
Just so you know, when people tell you to lurk here, they mean "stop posting and read the threads passively" not "take off your name post anonymously". Talk less, listen more, etc. The hope is that you'll get a good feel for what other anons like and don't like, and you'll make fewer missteps as a result.
Not an attack; just an explanation.
Hey, we're all in this together. Thanks for doing what you do and making these threads a brighter place.
It's great to have you here, so hang in there.
I have to watch not to derail the thread by being here as myself.
If you'd like to discuss the llama symbol in detail, I have quite a lot to say about it.
I'm not allowed to talk about it here though.
It always incites a riot.
The problem with theories like this one is that character designs in Gravity Falls are limited in range and variety. If you get caught up in analysing hairstyles and face shapes, you can find "evidence" to support all kinds of farfetched theories.
For example, maybe you remember when there a large contingent of people who believed Stan was the twins' real grandfather.
At the time, one of the more popular arguments used the shape of Carla McCorkle's face and hair as supporting evidence, going off the notion that she was the best candidate for Stan's ex-wife. And she does bear a slight resemblance to Mabel. But so do a lot of other characters. Mostly background ones with no significance to the plot. And sure enough, that one got debunked hard.
Recycling elements from main characters' designs is one of the easiest ways to ensure a cartoon's characters have a cohesive feel to them--without forcing your lead designers to vet every single one, anyway. I'm not saying people should never look for a Chekhov's gun among background characters, just that those arguments need to be taken with a fuckton of salt.
Just go ahead, don't ask. I don't have any quarrel with you. Everything is fine until you start linking your own tumblr and saying you're the only person on this planet who discovered it.
I find, when theorizing, to find multiple pieces of corroborating evidences.
In the real world, things aren't scripted. In the scripted world, things are more easily quantifiable.
The act of brainstorming and coming up with outlines often leads to walls filled with rainbow colored post it notes and an outline draft.
It seems, in Gravity Falls the clues come in twos. It's as if their clues are numbered, as if to have come from an outline.
The theories you've cited drew conclusions based on little evidence, where as they should have had much.
Perhaps red herrings are numerically quantifiable in a similar way to the clues.
I wonder if those people were wrong, or duped.
Yeah, there are a few background characters who look like they could be Mabel's mom/older sister but obviously are not related to her. Bearing visual similarity to another character does not mean they're supposed to be related.
So do you guys think the story about the hippie was actually true or do you think it's a lie Stan told to cover the fact he separated from Carla due to becoming a traveling criminal?
>it made more sense than what actually happened
Well, that was before AToTS, so it's not like they had anything in canon that said otherwise to object to. But I get what you're saying.
Honestly, though, I never liked the grunkle4grandpa theory because it seemed too complicated. How do you become a secret grandfather, exactly? Mr. Pines would know his own father unless Stan had abandoned him at birth (something that would be wildly out of character for Stan as we know him). Sure, there was also the body swapping theory, but it still would have been strange for Stan to cut all ties with his own son and masquerade as his uncle instead. You'd expect him to maintain way closer ties even if he had a good reason to hide who he was.
Of course, what we got in canon was even more ridiculous. But hey.
Gideon had Ford's journal and Ford invents stuff.
Maybe ford invented cloning.
Bill said in the AMA he's multiversal. Maybe he knows other versions of the team as well.
If cloning and multiversal doppelgangers are possible, maybe the multi symbol characters have reasonable explanations, including Mabel's backwards symbol.
They've claimed to have done multiple versions of the show, so maybe it was a scrapped story line, but each episode has added more evidences of backwards characters. Especially how Mabeland connects to the old PixelWizard poster.
I'm glad you posted this because after the twin reveal I'm pretty much susceptible to any theory there is but grunkle4grandpa
in fact, I once found a similar theory that a background character found in the future with his back turned was Dipper because of the hair floof (instead of being Ford, who has 6 fingers)
Neither, I'd say. The end cipher for RA strongly implied he never dated Carla at all:
>CARLA MCCORKLE RETURNED ALL HIS FLOWERS
>MARILYN DIVORCED HIM AFTER ONLY SIX HOURS
>BEATRICE SLAPPED HIM FOR BEING A CAD
>OLD GOLDIE’S THE BEST GIRLFRIEND STAN EVER HAD
So there might have been a hippy she ran off with, but Stan didn't get c ucked by him.
My take is he was exaggerating his relationship with her, probably because it was mostly one-sided. Maybe she just wanted to be friends after he helped her, and he fooled himself into thinking he had a shot with her. Puts an interesting spin on Stan's reaction (Yeah, "chances") to Dipper's crush on Wendy. I wish that had been addressed in the episode.
Between the implications that Grunkle Stan had an ex-wife and his confirmed criminal history at that point, the theory I had put together in the gap between NWHS and AToTS was that Grunkle Stan had an ongoing criminal, but at some point met a woman he really loved, but from whom he hid his past and fake identities from in an effort to win her over, lying about himself as a normal member of society. His wife found out about his past life and lies, and is both outraged at Stan and now actively afraid of him, and so she breaks off with him and does her best to hide from him, taking with her Stan's unborn child and knowledge of his brother, Stanford. I had no guesses as to what happened to the Author or how Stanford came to Gravity Falls, but I figured sometime after taking over Stanford's identity he got a call or letter from his now older child, who had kept in occasional touch with his uncle. From there, I imagined he just tried to reconnect with his family through the identity of Stanford, never revealing the truth because all they known about Stanley is that he's a deceptive criminal dirtbag.
They gave us a massive red herring in Dipper and Mabel's Guide to Mystery and Nonstop Fun.
It had some of us believing Ford was future grownup Dipper. They appeased it by having Ford say "You remind me of myself"
Or when Dipper connected the strings all to McGucket and hoards of kids felt less bad for reaching that conclusion.
Now, that's an explanation I don't mind. It's a little melodramatic, maybe, but not in a way that's unbelievable for the show. And it does fill in the plotholes. If I'd seen it at the time, I might have warmed up more to the theory.
so yeah I dreamt about Alex's old ex Jojo dying last night
Thing is, there is no such thing as universal sexual appeal. Standards vary greatly from culture to culture, and individual to individual.
[That's probably a moot point, since you are very likely
a straight man. Of course he wouldn't be sexy to you.
I've had exactly two /gfg/-related dreams.
In one, I was a museum curator dealing with a haunting. It escalated into summoning Bill to make a deal to get rid of the ghost. I woke up before anything was resolved, I think. But it was pretty good otherwise. Very cinematic.
In the other,
some anon dug up irrefutable proof Alex really is a FTM transsexual and spammed it all over /co/. Shoutout to the one alexposter who kept bringing up that possibility in these threads..
Don't make things weird, guy.
inb4 "where do you think you are"
Is anyone else...kind of...worried about Gideon?
We've never seen someone break a helldeal with Bill before, have we? Well, it seems like Gideon just did. What happens to you? Is there any chance the show might kill him? His "tell Mabel what I did" sounded kind of...final.
On the other hand, the way the finale's been going, it seems most likely that they won't even mention anything about the deal. Gideon will just show up in the background with the rest of the crowd at some point, no explanation, and have maybe two or three lines. Also, I don't know if anything bad would happen to a kid. If there even are any consequences to breaking his deal, it'll be something silly, like his hair turns into a duck or something.
So on the one hand I'm disappointed that there will likely be zero fallout or mention of Gideon's whole face heel turn, but on the other, I don't think he deserves a horrific death or anything, he is just a ten year old kid.
Will we ever get to see inside Mabel's box?
Well, Bill didn't get a favor from Gideon since he failed to deliver; the deal wasn't broken so much as called off.
In this case, it seems like Bill delivered on freeing Gideon. Of course, we don't know what Bill asked for in this case.
Also, I'm not sure if Bill has to follow through on his deals. Not sure if there are consequences for the other person but not him or what, really.
If I claimed to be emotionally invested in Gideon's fate, I'd be lying. Ten years old or not, he's been exceptionally terrible. But Alex seems determined to at least start him on the path toward a redemption of sorts, so I have no doubt he'll get a hopeful ending. Maybe not entirely happy, but with room for improvement.
That said, I really do want to know if there are formal consequences to breaking a deal with Bill. It seems like Bill's deals aren't governed by any power higher than himself, so perhaps his retaliation would be limited to things he could accomplish on his own. Prior to Bill entering reality, maybe it was as simple as Bill giving the person sanity-destroying nightmares for the rest of his life. But who knows what he'll do now. Hopefully, it'll be something more interesting than just turning Gideon into gold or stone.
But even if there's nothing more to the deals, I also want to see Bill and Gideon interact on screen. Alex has talked a lot about Gideon's tense dynamic with Bill, but we've seen next to nothing of it in the show. I'd like to that to happen in the finale, ideally sometime before the final confrontation. But it's more likely Gideon will just be (temporarily) turned to stone, waiting for the twins and their party to find him.
Part of me is expecting one of his tween fangirls to stab somebody someday and tell the cops that Bill Cipher made them do it. I hope not, obviously.
Honestly Stan's life is just depressing as fuck. The only time he's had something close to a functional life is impersonating his brother while trying to rescue that brother from an accident he caused.
it kind of bums me out
Yeah. I was saddest for the girl who got stabbed and their families and everyone involved, obviously. But I was kinda sad for the guy who invented Slenderman on SomethingAwful, too. You just invent something silly for fun, and you can never tell which creative thing might get used as an excuse by someone with problems. Catcher in the Rye being another obvious example, although that author had some problems himself, obviously he's not at fault for the crimes connected to the book.
I think the show actually does an incredibly job selling just how much the events in Stan's life have worn on him just through regular behavior that looks normal on the surface. Stan bases his whole business on deceiving people and in general has a borderline predatory attitude towards people outside his family, played for laughs most of the time, but very clearly the result of having to struggle to survive in a world where seemingly no one loved him. And while it's not really remarked upon, his treatment of Dipper and the lessons he learned from his father are obviously him to trying to rationalize the fact that his parents just didn't love into something positive and projecting his issues onto the children.
I thought of that, but all Bill said was, "Just let me into your mind, Stanford," Ford was the one who threw in the, "Until the end of time" (what a fucking dumbass, by the way), so was that even part of the deal?
Ford obviously did let Bill into his mind for a pretty long time, that alone might count as fulfilling it.
Another thing we might never know for sure.
>But I was kinda sad for the guy who invented Slenderman on SomethingAwful
Oh, you weren't the only one. I don't know whether or not he felt any kind of responsibility, but it's not hard to imagine that he would. My heart really went out to him. At least the girl survived...she and her family were certainly traumatized, but it's far from the worst that could have happened.
In addition, it's clear Stan sees himself as having little in the way of self-worth. That he so readily "killed" himself off, though for practical reasons, almost seemed to punctuate how disposable considered himself to be.
Finally got around to re-watching the last episode. I'm sorry but I can't feel any sort of emotion from either of the twins, everything feels so rushed and unlike them somehow.
Pic related was the only time I can remember the show actually making me feel for a character. I really hope with the double-length finale we'll have another one of these moments, but with how they treated the scene in OP I'm not optimistic. That just felt way too forced.
Anyone else feel like this?
All that is exactly why I hate the expectation Stan will die in a blaze of self-sacrificial glory. He's already thrown his life away for the sake of his family once.
I want him to earn a happier ending this time around, where he not only gets to prove his worth to Ford, but actually sticks around to enjoy the benefits of reconnecting with his family. Something a little more life-affirming than a hero's death, no matter how impressive one might be for a Y7 show to pull off.
The show has more or less put all its eggs in one basket and assembled the narrative in such a way that it's ability to generate viewer investment is at this point almost totally dependent on how much that viewer cares for or agrees with Mabel.
Unfortunately, I no longer care for Mabel.
I actually did get a bit teary eyes at the flashbacks and a bit of what followed, but the rest of the episode felt remarkably flat compared to what I expected.
The end of DaMvtF was so emotional for me twins wise and then a lot of last ep was so...meh.
Depending on how you look at it, that scene is one of the most tragic of the series.
His family can afford to send him to private school, yet there he is, with the commoners.
That's a cute one. I wish there was more art for this ship.
I actually do have a really nice sketch drawn by a pretty good artist, but they never posted it on their own blog so I would feel like a piece of shit if I shared it without their permission.
The flashbacks seemed really cliched to me, I agree with >>77961244 in that they're trying to push the whole Mabel thing.
I hate that the show is ending like this. Back when season one ended I never would have expected to hate Mabel by the time the series finale rolled around.
Reminder that Mabel was an accessory to rape and forced two people who don't love each other into a life together.
I've never really been able to hate Mabel. I see tons of reasons why people have grown to dislike her get posted in the threads but none of them really seem to click in my mind.
She's a bit brash and a little obnoxious, but good at heart.
The argument that never made much sense to me at all was the idea that Mabel was forcing Dipper to abandon his dreams when he declined Ford's apprenticeship. He'd never met Ford until a few weeks ago, so this wasn't him putting an end to a lifelong ambition. It was a whim, and one that he saw as childish after spending time in Mabel's fantasy bubble.
She'd even told him that he could go with Ford, but he chose not to of his own free will. No compulsion, magic or anything like that forced his hand.
I can't understand all the fury that caused.
>Pic related was the only time I can remember the show actually making me feel for a character.
Huh. That was a good scene in a great episode.
But. Stan resigning himself to sending the the kids home in Gideon Rises didn't do anything for you? Or the scene where they board the bus? What about the confrontation in front of the portal in Not What He Seems? Or when Ford rejected Stan in AToTS? Dipper and Mabel's "don't get stupid" talk, maybe?
I mean, I can't tell you how to enjoy the show, and I hope I'm not coming off like I want to. I'm just curious why NMM had the only emotional moment that worked for you. Do you see something of yourself in Pacifica, or just generally find her more sympathetic than the others?
Well, the position the show has unintentionally or not solidified its support of is that family is the most important thing, and that anything is worth giving up to maintain it. While a reasonable moral, the actual execution is lacking and the show doesn't seem to acknowledge that it's perfectly normal for family members to remain emotionally close even if they have to go down different roads in life.
Stan's heartbreak over his brother departing him was treated sympathetically even though Ford being able to travel far away from his low income Jersey neighborhood and their abusive parents for free would have been the best thing for Ford, and would not have in any way reduced his ability to love his brother, who in addition has obviously made no realistic plans for his own future.
In the present time, the show is so dedicated to its "family is the most important" ideal that pushes the implication that family members should be glued at the hip to each other, even though that's obviously unhealthy and is actively stifling both twin's ability to develop their own identity.
You talk about the multiversal doppelgangers; HOW on Earth could Mabel's supposedly-from-another-universe horizontally-flipped (that's what I understand you're talking about) llama symbol be possible to exist (be knitted in on a sweater) in the current canon Gravity Falls universe?
I think there's a bit of difference between being glued to the hip with someone and leaving home and abandoning school at the age of 13 to chase monsters with your autistic great uncle.
Ford willingly cut his family ties in favor of pursuing his dream and he wanted Dipper to take the same path, but the whole summer has been reinforcing that family should have each others back. Almost every problem has been resolved either by Dipper and Mabel joining forces instead of working alone, or by having Stan come in and rescue them.
Anyway I know its normal for people to drift apart as they grow older, but that comes from normal growing up and not a sudden sharp separation at a young age.
I could accept Stan sacrificing himself for the twins sake (because it is something he'd do), but I likewise would prefer a happy ending for him. He can be a terrible person at times, and he's certainly made plenty of bad mistakes, but he's also paid dearly for them. He's suffered enough. I want the poor guy to live out his last years in genuine happiness and self-acceptance.
We need more jailbait negress
>I no longer care for Mabel.
Mabel's more or less my favorite but man was I let down but how emotionally un-invested she was last episode, when we got a great scene like this on in Dipper and Mabel vs. the Future.
Mabel's scenes were much more emotional and human over a few friends not being able to come to her party over the end of the world. Some people said she was hypnotized, but that was, first off, really shittily established if true, and second, at the end when they got out of the bubble you didn't see anything from her either. Her parents, her friends, Stan could be dead for all she knows, and there's no real reaction. I feel like you saw how run down and upset Dipper was by everything last episode, but with Mabel nada.
I want for Pyronica too, but there's no need for those stereotypes.
Also Pyronica is pretty much the only waifu in the show who ISN'T jailbait. Just let me have this.
>over the end of the world
at no point in the episode had anyone told her the world was ending though. she had no clue how bad it was outside the bubble and was knocked unconscious before seeing bill take shape and start messing stuff up.
also no one in the episode told her what was happening, so she'd have no way of knowing how bad it was either. soos and wendy both got distracted by their fantasies and dipper was just arguing with her about fantasy vs reality instead of pointing out that the end times were on their doorstep and ford was a statue.
I was talking about the pigtailed girl in the pic I was replying too, but I didn't have any SFW pictures of her, so I just posted a random Pyronica picture.
I went though the whole Pyronica tag on tumblr and got a bunch of new art and porn of her, so fans of her can look out for her on the booru later.
>dipper was just arguing with her about fantasy vs reality instead of pointing out that the end times were on their doorstep and ford was a statue.
This was a shitty bit of writing in and of itself (so why the fuck wouldn't Dipper mention that?!?), but there was also the part where a portal to Gravity Falls was opened right in front of her and EVERYTHING WAS ON FIRE. No worries there, really?
Either the writing was crap, or Dipper is acting retarded and Mabel is being an apathetic cunt and/or also retarded.
The way Dipper disparaged Ford's offer was obviously the show presenting things in the most Mabel sympathetic view. From an objective standpoint even within the show's universe, the offer is not that bad.
For one, Ford is not a crackpot. The mysterious phenomenon of Gravity Falls objectively exist so what Dipper would be doing would be not be any less "real" that the work and science done by astronomers who lived in times when it was believed the sun went around the earth. Modern technology would allow Dipper and Mabel to stay in contact, greatly dulling the impact of physical separation. Dipper is already an incredibly lonely child. He's been living in the real world for his whole life until now and already has no friends besides his sister, who he shares no actual interests with, and indeed she frequently ridiculous him for them. He's still pining for a clone of himself he only knew for a day because he felt like somebody finally understood him. Finally, I'd argue that at this point Dipper wouldn't be able to go back to a normal life. Could you imagine having gone through such eye opening, fantastical and even scarring adventures, and then one day have to go back to a mundane world where no one would ever believe you? If Dipper returns to a normal life after Gravity Falls, his only options would be to bottle it all up inside or quickly be regarded as a lunatic and disregarded by the normal world.
>I went though the whole Pyronica tag on tumblr and got a bunch of new art and porn of her, so fans of her can look out for her on the booru later.
You are doing the Lord's work there. Many thanks.
He seems to be able turn things into gold so he probably has a limitless supply.
On a side not I remember an old theory about Bill having some sort of connection to gold and that he was the result of an alchemy experiment.
>Either the writing was crap, or Dipper is acting retarded and Mabel is being an apathetic cunt and/or also retarded.
or the writers just wanted to tell a story about the twins coming to terms with adulthood, putting aside the main plot for a while to have a little bit of character interaction.
for all the emphasis the thread puts on lore and plot and stuff, the show is primarily a comedy that leans heavily on the relationships between the different characters. its usually tries to be more funny or schmaltzy than dramatic.
The Cipher wheel symbol went blank on Tyrone.
A blank sweater backwards Mabel was shown with Lil Gideon, a day after Mabel snuck out with him. He did her hair and nails while she was wearing a hair sweater.
Gideon's foreshadow was on a magazine. The same magazine showed beard hair growing into a man. That same scene Mabel produced a lock of beard hair and denied having pictures of gnomes.
Later, in Mabel's scrapbook, a mirror reversed setting across the two episodes, Mabel revealed gnome pictures do exist.
The sweater reflection itself is likely the clue, not an actual backwards sweater.
Maybe they opted to have Pacifica be the llama. The evidences for that, are something Hirsch said and a painting. It would have to be a late decision, because their breadcrumbs seem to lead to multiverse and/or clone doppelgangers.
So far we've had many doppelgangers in the form of shape shifting and demon caterpillars.
Is it really that much of a stretch to have copies that don't dissolve? Weirdness in Gravity Falls always goes into hiding. If it's a plot twist, they wouldn't tell us outright.
I think Grunkle Stan has one too, and has been using him to run a two places at once scam for years.
Backwards messages, backwards audio, backwards characters.
It seems perfectly logical to come to this conclusion from my pov.
The real reason was of course just a jab at the whole "civilization/the economy's going to collapse so you'd better invest in gold" conspiritard idiocity, but this does remind me that I wish there'd been a few more of those jokes on the show. At least a few Bill lines about false flags in the media.
>From an objective standpoint even within the show's universe, the offer is not that bad.
That depends on your priorities though. If I had to choose between a mundane life but having my best friend with me or working my dream job, I'd take my friend every time.
Plenty of people would make the second choice, but not everyone would.
>its usually tries to be more funny or schmaltzy than dramatic.
As people have said, everything would have been accepted just fine if this wasn't the penultimate episode.
I don't mind it being 100% about Dipper and Mabel's relationship, either. That's exactly what I expected. It just:
1. Had so little weight and skirted around the actual issues either their relationship, which was never Fantasy vs. Reality. Mabel was worried about them growing up and growing apart ("getting stupid"). That was reduced to a single line. No, "Here Dipper, we never have to grow apart like our dumb Grunkles," and Dipper countering with, "We may not live under the same roof someday, but we'll always be best friends," that's what I wanted.
2. The twins' relationship was only addressed in the flashbacks and right after, which was the part of the episode I really liked. The rest of the episode was mostly kind of an 80s/90s parody (which seems a bit off anyway for a girl born in 2000, but that's fine).
I was looking for a big Mabel character episode/twin relationship character episode and don't feel I got it, it's not that big a deal, but a bit of a letdown, that's all.
However, from a strictly storytelling point of view, having doubles from both the copy machine and clones or multiverses is kind of weak, especially consider the show is only two seasons long. As for Stan having his own double, I think it's unlikely since he has explicitly expressed a distrust and disdain for the supernatural. He wants nothing to do with that stuff. If he ever indeed had a clone, it's probably long since buried somewhere behind the Shack.
>so she'd have no way of knowing how bad it was either
She got a pretty good look at downtown Gravity Falls through this portal, and Wendy was very sincere when she told her the town was in trouble. But I agree Dipper should have been more direct. I blame that on plot convenience, mostly. And, although it wasn't very satisfying, I can accept the excuse that Dipper was caught up in the moment too.
But I do agree with >>77962145 that Mabel's blase attitude when they first found her in the bubble was a big disappointment. It's true Mabel had no idea exactly what Bill intended or what the Rift was. But she did know Bill was a major threat to them all thanks to the family meeting with Ford in TLM. And she certainly seemed to recognize Bill before she collapsed. So why is she so calm after four days with no sign of any of her family or friends?
She's pleasantly surprised when Dipper arrives, but I didn't get the sense she was worried for their safety so much as happy they had joined her. And she seemingly has no interest in what might be happening outside the bubble. Not even to Stan. If she wasn't hypnotized, her desire for escapism should have only gone so far, you know?
It's just weak writing, where they've allowed the needs of the plot to drive characters' emotional reactions instead of the other way around.
By comparing Gravity Falls to LOST, you are admitting that while the end fizzled out in a disappointing way, it was still considerably good to a point and thus Alex has some degree of talent.
>If she wasn't hypnotized, her desire for escapism should have only gone so far, you know?
well, she did kind of have a 'snap out of it' moment at the end of the episode where she realized how bright and obnoxious the colors were and how annoying the same song looping over and over again was.
it could be viewed as her being influenced by the magic, if not exactly outright hypnotized.
What i really like about this episode is the lesson wasn't learned by just one-sided, both has learned something. Dipper actually learned that the reason she's acting horrible is because of her parents made her to, so there's no reason to hate her anymore. pacifica learned that she could stand by herself to face her awful parents and doesn't have to follow them.
This is the kind of character exploration that failed to achieve at The Golf War. Mabel didn't learn anything about pacifica, but at least we've got a little glimpse of issue with her parents. Both development only resolved around rivalry and didn't get any depth like the banter between dipper and pacifica on NMM.
It kinda saddens me because even though their rivalry ends, we still don't know if she's already in a good term with mabel or not, because she still doesn't look care about mabel and her friends when they come to her party. But she's already in good term with dipper, so we can say she'll warming up to her too.
>it could be viewed as her being influenced by the magic, if not exactly outright hypnotized.
The fact that viewers often didn't come away with that impression or even disagree that this is true indicates the show failed to make that clear.
She also didn't get upset after they'd left the bubble, really. I don't agree that Mabel's actually at fault with what happened at all but I think a moment of concern or guilt would have helped.
i guess, though i feel focusing on the negative right after they'd beaten the episodes challenge (escaping the bubble) would have been a bit out of place tone-wise.
plus the whole sequence once they got out of the bubble was compressed so they could get to the shack and find stan and the resistance army anyway.
As uncharitable as I feel saying this, I get the impression that when it comes to how Mabeland works, the writers wanted to have their cake and eat it too.
On the one hand, Mabel's reactions are most consistent with the idea that Mabeland has some kind of mind altering component to it. Like you described, maybe it was just subtle magic, or even Mabel running off the psychic equivalent of a sugar high due to all the pure, instant gratification it provided. But it had to be doing something to keep her some complacent.
But at the same time, they also wanted Mabel to be lucid: capable of making and understanding decisions. Otherwise, Dipper's heroic act of persuasion would be meaningless. For the court scene to work the way they wanted it to, Mabel had to be tuned in mentally and emotionally.
Obviously, those two goals aren't very compatible. So they compromised, and consequently we got something that doesn't quite check out.
Perhaps, but a lot of people were expecting some sort of emotional payoff to the events of Vs. the Future and feeling that wasn't given might be one reason for a lot os dissapointment, narratively speaking. I agree with what others have said in that it felt like any episode where the twins disagree (and honestly less emotional than a lot of them). Part of it is too high expectations, but I also feel that the show is capable of doing better than this.
>But at the same time, they also wanted Mabel to be lucid: capable of making and understanding decisions.
thats the thing though, when you are high you don't always know your judgment is impaired so you make poor decisions based on your altered perceptions. those decisions seem perfectly logical to you at the time and then when you come down you realize that you were being an idiot.
in this case i'd say that if there was any kind of subtle mind-magic going on (not impossible to picture since bill is some kind of mind demon or something) it wasn't putting any ideas into mabels head, it was just emphasizing things she was feeling and amplifying those feelings to a higher level. making her more paranoid about the future, making her more disappointed with reality, making her more resentful of dipper. once he'd talked her through it and she'd broken its hold she saw she was being dumb.
even at the start of the episode dipper had been saying he knew that mabel was smarter than she was acting. mabel isn't a dumb person, just one who was in an emotionally vulnerable place mentally and found herself in an area that provided instant gratification to sooth any fears or discomforts she had.
god damn that is a lot of words i just typed about a cartoon.
The portal confrontation was a close second, that's a good point. I really wanted more with the whole "trust no one" thing, like some conflict between the twins (what was the whole frame shattering thing even about then?)
The scenes from Gideon Rises were some of the biggest I had issues with. They didn't give us any time to take in what had happened, instead they just rush through the scene up until Gideon shows up. Everyone was just suddenly standing in the street with a sad face, there was no conversation or anything, it all felt way too forced and shallow to me.
I still can't come around to liking Ford as a character, for someone who lost 30 years of their life he kind of let Stan down easy (and was even quicker to forgive him). AToTS gave us some really good background on the brothers, but I dunno, I guess seeing Stan grow up the way he chose himself kind of lessens any sympathy I could feel for him.
Pacifica has had the most character development in that we get to see both sides of her, and I think that's what made NMM such a strong episode to me. Sure it's a bit cliched to have the snotty rich kid have a troubled home life, but you don't get to see that kind of moment of realization she had often.
The last episode really screwed up any genuine twin relationship feelings I'd seen between them. Even after Mabel saw that she was living a daydream in Bill's trap, we didn't get any type of remorse for what she'd (mistakenly) done earlier. Not to give off the impression that I'd want something as overly-dramatic as SU, but I've been wanting a character to have a breakdown since AToTS. Mabel came close with her scrapbook scene in D&MvTF, but like the other scenes it just felt like we didn't have the time to let them expand upon it. The actual time restraints of the show, paired with the fact that they have to wrap everything up in 44 minutes (maybe a solid hour if we're lucky), really makes me feel like the finale is going to be more of the same.
I still think Weirdmageddon Part 2 would have been better if Mabel was convinced that her bubble world WAS reality and Dipper was some kind of Bill Cipher trick. Kind of like that Superman story 'For the man who has everything' where superman is trapped in his near-idyllic fantasyland and eventually has to come to terms with it
I don't think you're real ;_;
You could still have cutesy Dip and Mabel memories and have Mabel come to terms with the reality of adulthood and Dipper realizing that the apprenticeship would be his version of Mabel's fantasy life, but still give the show stakes and have an actual conflict to overcome. The courtroom scene wasn't enough to give the trial of convincing Mabel to free herself enough bite.
>tfw no corrupted Mabel
why is this show not catering to my incredibly specific fetish?
Whoops, should read *so complacent.
>She also didn't get upset after they'd left the bubble, really.
That's one thing I didn't mind, actually. Between spending days wallowing in the surrealism of Mabeland, and the way everything turned into nightmare fuel as they escaped, I figure she'd be more or less numb by that point. So I didn't mind her taking the physical destruction more or less in stride.
As for concern or guilt, it's worth pointing out she still doesn't understand her role in all this properly. I was glad she at least acknowledged how badly she behaved inside the bubble.
When in doubt, stroke it out anon
aka sometimes you gotta make the material for your specific fetish yourself, whether by commission, requests, or any talent you can muster up through art, writing or voice
Again for me it's not that big of a deal but I don't feel they touched upon that at all. For all we know, she just liked the Happy Fun World and didn't want to leave. Many were left with the impression that she is actually dumb, which sucks.
This is what I was hoping for.
It would really give Mabel a chance to be heroic to have to save herself to some degree and having to choose to destroy a more perfect, subtle world because it would help others.
This would also tie up her character arc from TLM very nicely, show that she is a genuinely good person, even as it hurts her.
Mostly this is an issue of wasted opportunities, and kind of a backhanded compliment to the show. There's show much that could have been done. This episode would be great for many kids' cartoons but for this show, we know it can aim a little higher than they did in this case.
>This is what I was hoping for.
>It would really give Mabel a chance to be heroic to have to save herself to some degree and having to choose to destroy a more perfect, subtle world because it would help others.
look, i like the alan moore comic too but i think its better that they did their own thing instead of just straight up ripping off a plot from a similar story. yeah, its not as subtle and stuff but it was a visually fun episode and it had some good comedy and character moments in it. that's pretty much all i ask of cartoons.
Well it doesn't have to be a shot for shot remake, but just give Mabel a little more agency I guess? Everything felt like it should have been stopped as soon as Dipper told Mabel what was going on, and they only dragged it on in order to show their memories and have a trial.
Do you think it would have been better if Gravity Falls was three seasons, with the Ford reveal being the season two finale, and Weirdmageddon being Season 3B?
>Could you imagine having gone through such eye opening, fantastical and even scarring adventures, and then one day have to go back to a mundane world where no one would ever believe you? If Dipper returns to a normal life after Gravity Falls, his only options would be to bottle it all up inside or quickly be regarded as a lunatic and disregarded by the normal world.
Depending on how the ending turns out, it could be possible that the world becomes more aware of the supernatural, since there is no more Society of the Blind Eye to constantly mindwipe witnesses.
>Even after Mabel saw that she was living a daydream in Bill's trap, we didn't get any type of remorse for what she'd (mistakenly) done earlier.
Mabel didn't remember that. She said her recollection of the events was running into the woods, falling asleep, and waking up in Mabelland.
>I still think Weirdmageddon Part 2 would have been better if Mabel was convinced that her bubble world WAS reality and Dipper was some kind of Bill Cipher trick.
That's what I thought would happen. It'd be cool to have the FakeDipper Mabel thinks she known her entire life insist the new Dipper who shows up out of the blue to be a trick by Dipper and help toss him back to "Bill's Dimension" which would actually be the real world.
Oh you know it.
Rev Mabel is way too hot
She is also very definitively not a 12 year old girl
>Do you think it would have been better if Gravity Falls was three seasons, with the Ford reveal being the season two finale, and Weirdmageddon being Season 3B?
Yes, I wish we had more episodes with Ford in it.
>Mabel didn't remember that. She said her recollection of the events was running into the woods, falling asleep, and waking up in Mabelland.
Wasn't that before she realized what was going on? Did Bill have the ability to modify memories instead of just being able to access them?
No question. Even 4 more episodes would have sufficed. All you'd need to wrap the story up for good is:
1) An episode with Ford interacting with the Mystery Shack staff other than that thrown together D&D parody. Maybe a good old fashioned Bigfoot hunt or something?
2) An actual Wendy-centric episode where her whole deal is explored a little more beyond badass who Dipper pines for. Maybe that Stan teached Wendy to be a master thief idea Hirsch was kicking around.
3) A Stan/Dip and Ford/Mabel bonding episode, maybe showing us that Dipper and Mabel aren't carbon copies of Ford and Stan respectively
4) a Lil Gideon busts outta jail episode or at least give him a little more time to come around to betraying Bill. Maybe have him chafe at some orders or realize that his previous approach to Mabel obviously wasn't working.
But alas, that is relegated to our darkest dreamscapes and fantasies.
>She is also very definitively not a 12 year old girl
Its a good AU for cranking up the weird sexual stuff. Sometimes I really think I should try to do something with it.
Reading makes me sad to think about what this show could have been with more episodes.
>) a Lil Gideon busts outta jail episode or at least give him a little more time to come around to betraying Bill.
I especially agree with this. I'm ok with gideon betraying Bill but I wish we had some more time before he switched sides. He went from trying to capture Dipper and Wendy to being a good guy in like 2 seconds.
I would appreciate that.
I'm always interested in how different authors approach RevPines.
Tat-Buns Parallels was one of the few ones that I really enjoyed, but I feel like theres a lot of potential in there.
he enjoyed our birthday card... ah hell why not?
>Tat-Buns Parallels was one of the few ones that I really enjoyed, but I feel like theres a lot of potential in there.
Oh no doubt, I really like her RevPines stuff. She cranked up the dark and creepy factors really well and they were fun to read.
I've only done a little bit with that AU. My longest one wasn't even pinecest though, it was
Using this as the base pic.
>I really wanted more with the whole "trust no one" thing, like some conflict between the twins (what was the whole frame shattering thing even about then?)
A slow-rising tension built between Dipper and Mabel throughout 2B. I'd call it a conflict based on a lessening of trust. Trust was a big theme in 2B, period.
At the end of AToTS, Mabel worries about her future with Dipper. She's losing faith in their seemingly unshakable bond. Stan and Ford have lost all faith in each other: there's a complete absence of trust.
In DD&MD, Mabel tries to bring up her concerns about the time Dipper's spending with Ford. In spite of brushing off his offer to play earlier, her newfound insecurity prompts her to try to reconnect with him. But in the process, she makes a tactless joke at his expense and hurts his feelings. She recognizes that, and withdraws. In Dipper's eyes, Ford is reaffirmed as the family member who "gets" him best. And when Ford asks him to keep Mabel out of the loop, he accepts Ford's assessment she can't be trusted with the truth.
TSC pitted the twins against Stan. They didn't trust him to succeed on his own, and Stan lets his pride get the better of him instead of putting his faith in their advice.
In TLM, neither Dipper nor Ford bring their siblings in on their secrets, even though it would logically add an extra layer of defense against Bill. Ford sends Mabel on what he thinks is a wild goose chase. Meanwhile, he and Dipper enact the real plan of encoding their minds. Dipper struggles with his curiosity about Ford's past, which quickly morphs into suspicion, and then fear. Ford tries to talk him down, but Dipper can't bring himself to trust him and shoots Ford. Ford, in turn, praises Dipper's fearfulness. Mabel returns with the unicorn hair, but that doesn't earn her any trust from her great uncle.
And all this comes to a head in D&MvtF, when Dipper's slow drift into Ford's orbit reaches its logical conclusion and Mabel's insecurity erupts.
>And all this comes to a head in D&MvtF, when Dipper's slow drift into Ford's orbit reaches its logical conclusion and Mabel's insecurity erupts.
...and they then resolve it in the most lackluster and predictable way that scoffs at any attempt to give Mabel an arc
>of some edits on 4chan
I'd think his reaction would fall between mild annoyance to mild enjoyment depending on how well done/ how many jew jokes we force onto it. It's not like he's afraid of anonymous or spoopy /co/ nerds
Nah, it should be something from the actual show.
I'd say lets wait till after the finale and if there's any particularly nice frames from that we can use one of them.
If not, then a moment from NWHS. Let's commemorate the show being good.
At least Mabel admitted that Dipper might've been lying to get her ass in gear.
Honestly the obvious answer is, "Go up to work with Ford in the summers." but you need something for the finale.
D&MvtF was pretty decent, it just didn't have a satisfying outcome so far. I think people wrap it together with the weirdmageddon stuff but it was a pretty tight narrative and had good character moments. Honestly we just needed more time to expand on characters like Ford, Wendy and Gideon to make Weirdmageddon feel more final. I think half the problems we have with it is that we feel like it's ending too soon, before getting us that sweet sweet catharsis. Like a murakami novel, only less surreal.
>Go up to work with Ford in the summers
I really fucking hope that's the resolution and Ford doesn't die, because Dip is in dire need of a friend who shares his interests
and we already lost Tyrone ;_;
He got into a tiff on twitter semi-recently with fans who were jokingly (and not so jokingly) threatening him over the upcoming events in the show post-D&MvtF. Basically, saying things like "if you hurt waddles i will hunt u down and murder u in ur sleep" and crap like that.
But he was offended by their rudeness rather than frightened by the threats themselves. I don't think he cares much about average shit talk online, and he seems to be able to spot empty threats well enough.
Whether he'd find it funny is another matter, though.
It might be fine for a while, but spending most of your time with a socially awkward 60 year-old whose only friend is his 12-13 year-old nephew would probably become tiring eventually, no matter how much they shared interests.
You know, that might not be so bad, especially if Stan somehow managed to still be around. Dipper could study under Ford and go on adventures with him, and then throw a disguise on the old man and drag him into town for a bit for some much needed socialization.
A joke I would love to see in the show that I'll never see:
>Mabel says something and emphasizes the word "five"
>she holds up all fingers in one hand, and one finger on the other hand
>guise alex hates his dad so all the show's dads are bad lol
>Manly Dan is a single father, works hard, somehow makes time for his kids, and cared enough about his childrens' survival that he had them trained for the most extreme emergencies
>Old Man McGucket tries his hardest to be there for his son, but fails due to the portal and the memory erasing fucking his brain
>Bud has a shit child he is legitimately afraid of
>Robbie's dad is an honest man, just has a kid going through a phase
Yeah, it doesn't make sense and is pretty forced. All hackposting is stale as fuck.
Wasn't there a thing in the last thread where most posters had said that pinecest was less of a cancer to /gfg/ than all the hackposting memes?
How did I not noticed this before. Bill blowing up the church tower was a major scene, too.
In the thread before the last one, yeah. It was nearly unanimous that Pinecest offered more than hackposting. That said, it's not going anywhere anytime soon...though fewer do seem to be paying attention to it.
I still find it hilarious that if you remove the incest then this would be the most absolutely vanilla ship on /gfg/. People come up with some crazy fetish ideas for the others, but Pinecest is like, cuddling and holding hands and stuff.
Yeah, I'd heard of it before coming to /gfg/ and had thought the very idea was gross. Then I saw all the art posted here and the fics that got linked and now I'm shipper trash. No regrets though, its too cute.
>Mabel will never give Dipper a platonic kiss and tell him how lucky she is to have a brother like him
I'm fine with that. The show is great as is, and there's a wealth of cute romantic stuff in the fandom. No need to worry about trying to force it where it doesn't fit.
>>Old Man McGucket tries his hardest to be there for his son, but fails due to the portal and the memory erasing fucking his brain
>tfw we will never see a reconciliation between the two
Don't worry anon, it can still happen
like a little kiss on the cheek
This show has the best representation of cute and innocent sibling relationship. Don't ruin it with your sick fantasy, you incest faggot
>tfw they will never invent a button that makes all pinecestfags drop dead
>tfw they will never invent a button that makes all anti-incestfags understand the pure love between a brother and sister
>tfw you will never surgically remove anon's shit taste
Pinecest is a meme ship. Everyone knows Padippica is best.
Man, you just got even more wrong.
Padippica is the plebiest ship in all of GF.
Candip is less pleb-tier than Padippica
A reminder that Bill has his bodymeats up through his hat- where he was shot which did nothing, so shooting him through the heart would also have done nothing. So Ford's plan to shoot Bill with the Cobra gun was never going to work.
>>Padippica is the plebiest ship in all of GF.
I thought that was
Maybe he had some sort of vital organ in the triangle part of his body that Ford was aiming for.
>Maybe he had some sort of vital organ in the triangle part of his body
Bill's eye seems like an obvious target. Given his association with sight, it would make sense if blinding him affected his powers.
Posting the most logical ship.
>I still don't like her though.
>tfw we'll never see this many sexy chubs in one single show ever again
It doesn't normally bother me, but Bill's S1 design looks awful after seeing his S2 design nonstop in the last couple of episodes.
I could take or leave the black outline and the bendier movement, but I'm glad they've kept his proportions more consistent since then.
But do you want to lovingly penetrate his tight, wet top hat? Would you like to tenderly massage your fingers against the slick velvet of its interior until the grip of Bill's tiny fingers trembles on the brim and he's begging you for more?
Would you tease your tongue on the hat's edges and carefully moisturize it with warmth as you keep your eyes on his tiny hands trying to hide his embarrassment? How would you move your tongue inside him? Tantalise him? Devour him whole?
>you will never get to taste Bill's hot little top hat
>They had one really good episode, then dropped her in the trash
She was never going to join the main cast, though. Even after NMM, you couldn't really call her and Dipper friends yet. There was no good reason for her to hang around the Shack or with the twins.
She's in the group of survivors there now, though. That's something. I'm confident she'll at least get a few lines and something to do in the finale.
/gfg/ was everything I was warned and more.
I was going to read here for a bit, get hyped, and try starting the series
(last time I didn't really get on well with it).
I read elsewhere on /co/ that the fandom was why the creator was opting out of a full third season as originally planned, and I can believe it.
>I read elsewhere on /co/ that the fandom was why the creator was opting out of a full third season as originally planned, and I can believe it.
nah, season 3 has been off the table for years - it was mentioned in some interview he did. i imagine the fact that it took 3 and a half years to get 2 seasons out was a big factor in deciding to shorten it. if you have a plan to tell a story that takes place over the course of a single summer but network scheduling would make it take 4-5 years to tell that it might be annoying.
Bill's AMA may have an explanation. He claimed to be mutiversal, seeing infinite variations.
What if Gravity Falls itself has a Doppelganger ¿
It would explain why Manly Dan was shown seated on a bench, turned to stone, but was also shown as part of the throne.
There could be more than one of him, and more than one Earth Bill is manipulating.
The water tower in Summerween changes in one frame. We've theorized on the forum the likelihood of it being error.
Considering the AMA multiverse reveal, I suspect it's a clue.
You're trying so hard to contribute but every single time you do the opposite. You damage the quality of every conversation you insert yourself into. And every time you are told this, and every time you sulk about it, and then every time you continue to do it.
This is why people hate you. Not because you're a fucking autist. Because you don't fucking learn. Retards can learn. Dogs can learn. Goldfish can learn. But you demonstrate time and time again that you are incapable of recognizing that the problem that you are having is that you are a shit person that people don't like.
You need to either completely change the person you are or completely stop interacting with people. Either way, step one is to leave this thread the fuck alone before you ruin it any more than you already have.
Continue making theories about Gravity Falls among other things.
There are a ton of quips and references to wade through. People still look for hidden Bills, like hidden Mickeys.
Callbacks are only visible after the fact.
We've got books and probably movies to look forward to.
Hell, I'd wouldn't be surprised if they picked up a new season eventually. Hirsch looked exhausted. With some time to rest and think, maybe he'll want to do the voices again.
If not, there's plenty there already. Is /gfg/ expected to stop, along with the series?
>Is /gfg/ expected to stop, along with the series?
/gfg/ creates content and has new discussions. All you do is constantly chew over the same shit and try desperately to come up with some original theory you can claim for your own because you are desperate for purpose and to be liked but you lack any sort of ability or charisma to achieve those goals. But you never will, because there's nothing left to be found. You're wasting your life, but it's okay, because you never would have achieved anything with it anyway. It's just a shame that instead of wasting your life quietly in a way that doesn't bother anyone else, you're doing it by being this walking avatar of anti-fun that sucks the joy out of every fandom he visits.
I'm talking about Gravity Falls.
You're talking about a person.
You're off topic, not me.
You need to change. Not me.
Stop derailing OPs thread because you have beef dood...
I have no choice but to have a fucking name.
Get over it.
>If not, there's plenty there already. Is /gfg/ expected to stop, along with the series?
yeah we'll likely be banned once the series is done, like other generals for dead shows. even if we aren't outright banned the threads would shrink and fizzle until there was nothing left that you could truly call /gfg/.
the fandom may limp along for a few years, producing less art and fics over time until eventually it stops and its followers jump to whatever new show catches their eye.
all human endeavor is fleeting, all art subject to the march of time.
You'd only be talking about Gravity Falls is if your theory had any chance of being correct, which it doesn't, because your theory is so blatantly stupid that I wonder if you have some sort of mild retardation to go with your wildly obvious autism.
Yikes, I'm not him or whatever but no need to be that harsh. Show some mercy.
Noone treats you seriously. For example, Hirsch confirmed "Lebam" is just an animation error (and I saw your tweet under his tweet too) and two days ago you told me with a straight face it's a plausible theory. The quality of your stuff is terrible. Definitely not enough to convince /gfg/ to not shit on you for namefagging and self promotion.
People have been showing mercy in the past ten threads he's posted in by gently suggesting that he either drop his name, make an effort to learn board culture and fit in, or go somewhere else where his brand of namefaggotry would fit in better. Every time he's sulked aggressively at the people that called him out and done absolutely nothing to better fit in to board culture. So the gloves are off.
I did. I thought I was talking to another namefag at the time.
Back to anon again. If I have to discuss something specific, I have to namefag, usually though, it's just general anon conversation.
Seriously, just drop the name. Completely. Never use it. You'll not get good responses because you don't have a good reason to have a name.
Jesus look at Misha.
Guy is singlehandedly responsible for a huge amount of content ever getting onto the Booru, and people still shit on him from time to time because he identifies himself out of anon. It's just not what you do around here.
Abandon the Sqoou identity completely. It's the smart, and considerate thing to do.
Dipper and Mabel really just need to hurry up and fuck. I'm getting bored waiting for it.
It's overrun by kids spamming Joaje.
It's a decent medium, but has it's flaws. Tbh I didn't want to sign up there or Tumblr in the first place. This project required it.
I'm an oldfag in disguise, believe it or not. I'm sorry I trolled you with my newfaggotry act. I've actually been here all summer.
There are adult conversations here. Reddit is for kids. I've been waiting for the finale to have discussions with you guys.
It's just, sometimes I have to speak as myself. We have that option and some of us use it from time to time.
I mean, all of us are here on Saturday and Sunday. My psyche isn't that different from any other faggot who wastes his life in this shit hole every day.
No one cared who I was until I put on the name.
>I'm an oldfag in disguise, believe it or not. I'm sorry I trolled you with my newfaggotry act. I've actually been here all summer.
I can't wait for twincest.
>Been here all summer
Oh lord this has to be a joke
I'm an oldfag in disguise, believe it or not. I'm sorry I trolled you with my newfaggotry act. I've actually been here all summer. There are adult conversations here. Reddit is for kids. I've been waiting for the finale to have discussions with you guys. It's just, sometimes I have to speak as myself. We have that option and some of us use it from time to time. I mean, all of us are here on Saturday and Sunday. My psyche isn't that different from any other faggot who wastes his life in this shit hole every day. No one cared who I was until I put on the name.
>I'm an oldfag in disguise, believe it or not.
>I've actually been here all summer.
>I mean, all of us are here on Saturday and Sunday. My psyche isn't that different from any other faggot who wastes his life in this shit hole every day.
This is a joke, right?
I this pasta?
This feels like pasta.
This is just a joke right guys?
I want to believe this but this faggot's Reddit account has been active for a year with hundreds of submissions and thousands of posts. Would someone do so much groundwork for so little payoff?
>I'm an oldfag in disguise, believe it or not. I'm sorry I trolled you with my newfaggotry act. I've actually been here all summer.
That's how we talk. Isn't it?
4chan is a toilet. etc
A golden toilet imo.
Look. I'm sorry if my being here cause anger. It won't be for very long, for obvious reasons.
Can't you just ignore me until I eventually move on? We're getting OPs thread way off topic, for no real reason at all.
You have no real way of knowing if they guy posting here is the same guy though or just someone who saw all the reddit posts and decided to take on an autistic persona to fuck around on here for a while.
Some people do strange things for entertainment.
>I trolled you with my newfaggotry act. I've actually been here all summer.
>No one cared who I was until I put on the name.
Trolling so golden
Stan would buy it and bury it for the apocalypse.
This seem increasingly likely.
Like, more and more, it feels as though each post is designed and curated to invoke ire. He hit every single newfag button just too fast, too hard, and too precisely to be anything but a troll.
Gooble Gobble. One of us.
yes I am.
You talk to me all the time and loose your shit whenever I use my name.
I chimed in way to fast though and it caused a bit of a backlash.
The goal of the fandom since day one was to theorize what the show had in mind. Having a name is just a requirement in this instance.
My schtick happens to be "crazy conspiracy theorist"
I aint hurtin nobody by saying "Maybe there's a multiverse."
I said "Maybe there's a flying saucer under the town" and people said that was stupid too.
What was the point of this? Was it just a Disney Infinity poll?
>Stargate SG-1, a major influence for Gravity Falls, went on for ten years.
>Your post is so accurate and intelligent, it brings a tear to my eye.
i really can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.
Better to leave for friendlier shores I think.
You clearly struggle with being here, and are making no great strides (at least not in the right direction) to fit in better.
Good luck wherever you end up I guess.
Do you think Ford would be too straight-edge to hang with Rick?
Not after a few drinks.
I'd like to say no. Hanging out with Bill (even Bill on his best behaviour) should have loosened him up a little. But recalling the "focus on your intellect" scene in D&MvtF, Ford's probably too uptight to use any mind altering substances himself.
He'd sit there, just watching Rick drink, making huffy little comments about how alcohol abuse decreases brain volume and does Rick know that his judgement is irreparably impaired by his dependency.
Nah, that sounds like it would take actual effort to write. In all seriousness though, I'm a fan of Weirdmagedon Part 2 but I like your idea better; in fact, your idea sounds like it could have the potential to be even more feelsy than what we got. Just imagine Mabel slowly realizing that what Dipper is saying is true, but still trying to lie to herself. I'm seein' tears, I'm seein' Dipper having to raise his voice at Mabel to get her to accept harsh reality. Could have been something...
Twin Peaks. Gravity Falls is essentially Twin Peaks for children in a LOT of ways.
So what was behind the Door for Dipper in Mabel's bubble?
Bill would cut out the middleman by possessing Ford's body and drinking himself stupid. He'd wait until the hangover started to kick in and then leave Ford to deal with the aftermath.
They both rushed the resolution of their most interesting mystery components and struggled with pacing immediately after.
Just like qt was going to end up with Coop, Grenders was going to win the Dipbowl. They both got off pretty good with a rich ass gary stu bf, but all the work to introduce these new characters and throwing out episodes of buildup to the canceled ship was detrimental to both series.
I feel like in the North West he'd make more sense as the child of a Chinese Migrant worker. His father came out west a a child with his parents during the gold rush, but always heard great stories of the cities back East and eventually went back after siring Soos (Which should probably be short for something other than Jesus).
the only good development and chemistry that happened with any ship happened in a fucking video game anyway.
Dipper would've probably gone out with Candy if she had just asked him, and didn't find a need for him to apologize to her.
That little bitch had her chance.
i like when autists try to define their opinion as some meaningless math equation.
its especially helpful when they have tired, generic, ironic meme opinions like "pacifica is the best girl"
So when is that little faggot Hirsch going to release the air date of the series finale?
Secondly anyone think anybody else out there will be stupid enough to give the dwarf a chance on another network?
i see someone is trying real hard to take the fun out of alexposting
I was going to respond with what I think might happen, but then I realized that you're just hackposting under the guise of a legitimate question.
But I guess I can't blame you for that, since no one actually cares about hackfaggots.
There are plenty of conversations, even within this thread, about how Alex may have brought about a disappointing end the the series, and still more criticizing individual episodes. There are comments on Alex's behavior, past and present, that while may be somewhat subjective are perfectly fine.
That is not hackposting, however. Hackposting utilizes buzz words and petty insults, and exists largely because some anons are attention whores, and others enjoy stale meme jokes that may have been amusing at one time but now just elicit a tiresome eye rolling.
One has the right here to say what they wish, just as others have the right to call it shit.
like all memes people ran alexposting into the ground, it was pretty funny and even manzi (and probably alex by proxy) got in it at times. when the manzi break up happened, i think that disillusioned a lot of fans here with alex and the hate became a little more real.
however you are right about us reserving the right to criticize alex, S2b has been mediocre at best and the finale episodes had near non-existent build up.
But isn't all of DP's Mabels just tweens?
>Going to miss DP's Mabel.
Probably going to write a fanfic about Dipper succumbing to the temptations of Mabel's bubble tbph.
No incest/Wendip shit, just things as simple as his parents showing up, apologising for neglecting him, and promising to never leave him again, as well as being the popular kid in school.
You'll be doing the fandom a service if you do, anon. There's so much squandered potential in how the bubble was executed. I hope a lot of alternate takes get written for both Dipper and Mabel.
Lewd or not.
It's perfect. That's exactly what the bubble ought to have been: a gateway to become a Mary Sue in your own life.
Man I wish the episode had this kind of shit in it. Instead of even really being about fantasy vs.reality, it was about "would you like to live in a 1980s world/Lisa Frank drawing." The only part that got into some meaningful shit was Soos' dad. I feel they kinda pussied out with no Wendy's mom, too.
>"would you like to live in a 1980s world/Lisa Frank drawing"
that kind of sounds like a fantasy to me though? its not like escapism and dreaming about going to fantastical worlds isn't a thing that people do.
I'm so excited to see GFG at its last limb, once the final episode rolls around and we'll actually have one of the last threads for this general. It's going to be such a shit show. I can't wait.
Disney have some scheduling method that maximizes the number of people that watch an episode. Hirsch thought it was bullshit and pulled some strings to get two episodes shown back-to-back a while ago and there were apparently significantly less viewers so maybe there's something to it.
There was no time for it, but what I really would have liked is a scenario where they're all separated as soon as they entered the bubble. Each character would get their own personalized dreamworld based on their deepest wishes.
Dipper would be cool, with a popular blog/internet ghost hunting show and a bunch of fans who hang on to his every word. He'd simultaneously live in Gravity Falls, working with Ford, as well as keeping everything he loved back in Piedmont. He'd be dating someone like Wendy, and he'd have a best friend who was basically Tyrone. He'd have a Mabel he never fought with and whom he was always able to protect.
Wendy would find herself in a Gravity Falls transformed into a big city. She'd leave behind all the boredom of small town life and start fresh in a school where everyone looks up to her the way Dipper and Mabel do. She wouldn't have to work during the summer. Her family would be more normal instead of hyper aggressive macho nuts, and her mother would be back in her life.
Soos would be Stan's acknowledged successor, yet somehow his father would also be there and not a tremendous asshole. Melody would live close by (but not too close). He'd always say and do the right thing, and he'd never mess up and get yelled at by Stan or his friends. And, uh. That's pretty much it for Soos, I guess. He's a simple guy.
Out of the millions of things that could be put into a 22/44 minute episode that is all ages and is designed to have something for everyone, it would be incorrect for them to not include the thing that I personally want them to put in.
>its not like escapism and dreaming about going to fantastical worlds isn't a thing that people do.
There was a good post relevant to this a few threads ago I wish I'd thought to cap. The gist of it was that Mabel isn't the sort of character who habitually withdraws into an internal fantasy world. Instead, she projects her fantasies outward onto the world around her. She's all about living her dreams out in real life: pursuing the perfect summer romance, throwing amazing parties, making a bunch of friends, and exercising her creativity to surround herself with things she loves. She's a classic extrovert.
If you look at it that way, it doesn't make sense that her supposed fantasy had so little realness to it. Most of what she was afraid of losing when she went into the bubble was firmly grounded in reality: her brother's love and support, her new best friends, and her pet. Waddles and an alternate Dipper were inside the bubble, but they seemed like bit players rather than the main feature. Dippy Fresh was played wholly for laughs.
Mabeland was fantastical, all right, but it was also superficial. All flash and callbacks and '90s references, and very little heart.
>There was a good post relevant to this a few threads ago I wish I'd thought to cap. The gist of it was that Mabel isn't the sort of character who habitually withdraws into an internal fantasy world. Instead, she projects her fantasies outward onto the world around her. She's all about living her dreams out in real life: pursuing the perfect summer romance, throwing amazing parties, making a bunch of friends, and exercising her creativity to surround herself with things she loves. She's a classic extrovert.
This is a really good point.
I was really hoping we'd get something along these lines and was actually glad we got a little bit of it. I'd happily sacrifice Roadside Attraction to have turned this episode's concept into a two parter, much more carefully executed.
That was the real tragedy of RA. Not that it was debatably the worst episode of the series (most shows do have at least one like that), but that so many better ideas that could have added to the end game were set aside for the sake of it.