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Don't screw up the OP.
Is there a playlist for the last batch of 'pocalypse preppin' videos, too? I don't mind them in the OP, but I think most of us have seen them all by now. Not sure the individual links are needed.
Also, they're inferior to the Mr. Mystery videos.
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Continuing the conversation from the last thread:
>What traits make Bill a bad villain?
>What do you think the original plan for Bill's character was?
>What do you think it would take to make Bill a decent villain?
It's time to purge Gravity Falls.
Also found this on the tv
>What do you think the original plan for Bill's character was?
Bill wasn't meant to be the main villain. He would appear in Dipper's dreams and just talk about conspiracy theories.
Being defeated by powerless 12 year olds twice, 'Cunning omniscience' and he still acts like an idiot. And his Yo Gabba Gabba crew.
Probably just a dream being to annoy Dipper, maybe a lackey for an actual big bad. Defiantly not the guy on top of the pyramid.
Having some other purpose rather than "lol chaos", I think "Our old realm is dying, need someplace new" would have done the trick if they actually followed through. Also, have some weaknesses, like actually having to follow through with his deals(and other well set rules he has to follow), would be nice.
Sure, I'll bite.
>>What traits make Bill a bad villain?
Bill was a very good villain prior to the last two episodes. He affected the characters and caused interesting reactions. Good example is in Sock Opera where he made Mabel realize she was being selfish and needed to change. Antagonists should challenge protagonists and bring about change.
What makes him a bad antagonist now:
1. Mostly, his only interaction is with his friends, none of whom we give a shit about, and their interactions aren't interesting.
2. Follows Saturday morning cartoon show cliche of not bothering to kill enemies although he obviously considered Dipper enough of a potential threat at one point to bother with the Sock Opera shit.
3. Cliche "take over the world" plan without any real explanation as to why this makes sense for a carefree character.
4. No emotional stakes for the end plot in general, no practical stakes, we know they'll beat him and the world will never even know this happened.
>>What do you think the original plan for Bill's character was?
We know it was just to show up in Dipper's dreams to fuck with Dipper who nothing really consequential.
Maybe if you merge the two concepts you get a more morally ambiguous character who is more interesting, and sometimes helps and sometimes harms? Like in Dreamscaperers, he compliments Soos, Mabel, and Dipper. I think it's a shame nothing ever came of that.
>>What do you think it would take to make Bill a decent villain?
Have him playing a longer game with a more interesting goal, have things go back to the way he was with a more personal effect on the characters and emotional stakes. Get rid of his buddies. Have him go back to being weirder, maybe his plan breaks down reality instead of just weird monsters running all over the place.
Bill should be more alien like he was in the beginning. He should interact more with the main characters in a way that challenges them Like with Mabel in Mabel's bubble.
>no emotional stakes
>spent a TRILLION YEARS imprisoned in a place that was falling apart
>if the dimension fully decayed, he would die
>he literally had to come here to survive
even though the end of our universe will only be 100 billion years away
>not wanting to crush boypussy
what? y'all gay or what?
Damn. That was quick...
Nice work Anon.
That's not the Blind Eye cross and eye, though. It's just the same flag as the OP pic. Or am I missing something else you're seeing?
That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the Society makes a reappearance in some capacity. Bill flashes two different Blind Eye pages when he's scanning the Journal in EfR (this, and one of a cloaked society member). The last time he did something like that, it turned out the images he was showing were plot relevant (specifically, Blendin appeared in his list of candidates at the end of TLM).
And if they ever plan on giving Fiddleford's story some closure, now is the last opportunity for it.
>What do you think the original plan for Bill's character was?
I more or less exhausted what I wanted to say about Bill in the last thread, but it's worth pointing out that Alex already told us exactly what the original plan for Bill was.
He was originally conceived as a background, Q-style annoyance who harassed Dipper in his dreams and tossed around a bunch of conspiracy theory references.
I meant emotional stakes for the protagonists/main characters.
Remember when Mabel suddenly realized what she had just done? She freaked the fuck out, it was a great moment with great voice acting.
Another good example was in The last Mabelcorn. Dipper seemed to have full on PTSD from Sock Opera and was a paranoid wreck.
Basically, the antagonists' action have been consequences for the protagonists and spur them onward.
Escape from Reality dropped the ball with the Mabel stuff, and the tone was very light, like a filler episode. It didn't seem like there were stakes for the main characters any more, just "this annoying thing is happening to one little town, better fix it."
>TFW finally finished writing my fanfic
Just gotta edit it.
>>What traits make Bill a bad villain?
Went from a hyped up, all-knowing dream demon to a generic bad guy that wants to rule the world when a planet should be nothing to a being on his scale. Nothing about Weirdmaggeddon really fits the mind-related motifs that surrounded him.
>>What do you think the original plan for Bill's character was?
Either a neutral-ish/lesser evil entity who observed the town and mocked Dipper along his adventures, occasionally dropping hints and such or he was meant to be the gatekeeper for a greater demon.
>>What do you think it would take to make Bill a decent villain?
"I was only pretending to be retarded" is the only way they can salvage him at this point. Actually, after the cold open in Escape from Reality, I'm not even sure if that's possible now.
What if we get a whole season 3 of the rebels of the falls recruiting help from the forest creatures and other GF mysteries, and eventually facing bill at the end of season 3. That'd be bomb.
>"I was only pretending to be retarded" is the only way they can salvage him at this point.
Someone in another thread pointed out that Bill is a very rare villain for whom the Light Yagami "just according to keikaku" would actually have been sense. Should have pulled some of that out. It's more reasonable for Bill than for Light (for whom it was ridiculous).
That was a good exchange, and that perspective on Bill is definitely one of the reasons his failure to account for human interference in his plans left me cold.
That wasn't inspired by you Sqoou.
It's from a really old DP comic.
I remember. Some of the material made it's way across Tumblr a while back.
You're saying that's the origin?
I also liked the one with the twins side by side school pic with the same animation style.
I know. I'm pretentious, but I keep great archives.
This. I've been trying to tag thoroughly and source when I upload things, and do some tagging in the tagme, but there's just such a huge volume of posts on the booru that I haven't made much of a dent at all.
If you haven't already, you should make an account and help out with getting everything tagged and sourced.
Like the other anon mentioned, there's a comic about Dipper raping Mabel thinking that it's Wendy, and a sexual one of Mabel licking an ice cream cone, but I don't care to look at shota/loli stuff so you're on your own there. Idk about the striptease, someone said it disappeared.
>everyone is prepping for the confrontation with Bill
>Pacifica is crying by the window thinking her parents are dead
>Dipper goes over to console
>Dipper promises they're still alive and he'll save them somehow
>Paz gives him a huge hug and then runs off
>Dip turns around to find Wendy standing right behind him
>"Dude, she's totally into you."
That may be my least favourite season 3 plot pitch so far.
I enjoyed the monster of the week episodes, don't get me wrong. But I don't give a crap about any of them as characters. They're just plot devices. I could have gone the rest of the series without any of them returning.
Even if the focus was primarily on the interactions between the human characters, return after return to past episode stories would get old fast. As it was, all the callbacks in the last episode got on my nerves some. I'd probably hate a whole season worth of retreads.
Especially since the writers would more or less have to use Bill's henchdorks as antagonists, so it wouldn't feel totally removed from the events of Weirdmagddon.
>getting to see my waifu as an actual character instead of just a lame background distraction
Sign me up.
I don't mean go grab the manatours, I mean they go and discover new things, and find ancient secrets, more ancient than Bill. New great material, that has an overarching plot of why gravity falls leaks paranormal activity, and what is hidden deep within it. It would create more secrecy, which is something that I"ve been missing since ford was revealed.
I don't know how to get around the shitty henchmen though. Maybe they could come up with better designs and make actual characters that Bill employs to keep the citizens of GF in check?
>If you haven't already, you should make an account and help out with getting everything tagged
I've been wondering how the hell to tag other peoples' uploads on a booru. Thanks for the heads-up.
Can users with regular accounts also delete duplicate images, or does that require mod privileges? I've seen tons of images where the 500px inline version from tumblr was added alongside the full sized version.
>I mean they go and discover new things, and find ancient secrets, more ancient than Bill
That sounds considerably less terrible.
One thing I've been wondering about is how the hell Ford learned what Bill's weakness is in the first place. It's not like Bill would have told him during a round of
pillow talk. So if there's some source of knowledge out there, why can't the rest of the Pines family find it?
It might've been a little rigidly structured if handled incorrectly, but I wouldn't have minded a long term quest to uncover the secret of how to defeat Bill.
I just wanna crush man pussy. Especially pic related
If you're a regular member you can only delete your own posts, but what you do with duplicates is tag them with 'delete_me' and '*url of the larger image*' and Misha will get around to deleting them whenever he gets his internet fixed.
Pacifica said "You wouldn't understand." and "They made me."
Preston was willing to eat a butler and never mentioned his wife.
They've foreshadowed everything.
Dipper and Pacifica returning to California seems a fitting conclusion once Preston eventually suffocates to death on his own cyclops eyeball.
>People in the thread still expecting shipping to happen
it isn't a developed mystery though. I'm okay with letting it be, but we at least need something to keep us going. It feels like we have too many answers, and no secrets, but it also feels like there are secrets, a ton of untapped potential.
Personally, no, but I would enjoy seeing Dipper an obese Pacifica. Or vice versa.
That last minute OTP by the creators revealing Mabel and Pacifica were lesbians all along.
All that press. All the salt and pandering.
Can you feeling calling in the air tonight!?
>make actual characters that Bill employs to keep the citizens of GF in check
If they'd made Bill's goons actual characters I doubt they would bother people so much, but as you said we'd need more time for that, maybe another season.
I would be ecstatic and enjoy the pain and suffering here forever and ever.
Is that a decent length for a first-time fanfic lads?
He took over Mabel's body with GORNT dust.
The ROotHM activated the shields.
That's muh theoroy and I'm stickin to it.
It still feels like it was barely touched on nearly throw away line compared to the 'chaos party god' angle.
Yea, I know the exact
jewishwording of the deal means that Bill is in the clear, but in Sock Opera, there was the very clear implication that Bill was going to give the password for Dipper making the deal. Kinda changes his character from "Deal with the devil" type to "Chronic backstabbing" type. Deal with the devil type would have made a more fun villain.
>what should have been: After Bill get's control of Dipper's body, he smashes the laptop and shouts "THE PASSWORD WAS GULLIBLE" quickly and quietly followed up by "one 'l', '13' at the end." Several episodes later laptop is fixed, Dipper unlocks it on the first try, and mutter curses under his breath about Bill.
Okay, what the fuck is up with the DL links? The first season is reasonably compressed, but the second season's file sizes are way too fucking huge. For a second I thought it might have been a consequence of mkv encoding, but I encoded it to mp4 and it was still huge as all hell.
Can anyone fix this? I don't want to waste 30 GB on my HD for this one show.
Sorry guys, but what actually happens is that Billdip is made canon at the last minute, leading one half of tumblr to violently attack the other half. The government is stuck scraping corpses off the street for months.
Meanwhile, Alex escapes the carnage by hopping a private jet to the Caribbean, never to be heard from again.
My dad works in Ariel Manzi from the future and I can assure you that this is true.
>implying Robbie isn't poised to play a crucial role in Bill's defeat
He'll spontaneously un-petrify like Lazy Susan did, just in time to catch Dipper's
inspirational friendship speech.
I've been waiting so goddamn long for Pacifica to do something significant. It's never gonna happen, is it, bros? I should just give up. I'll be lucky to get a line or two, tops.
Alright lads, I'm done. I promised I'd give you a shout.
Look, I've never done fanfic before, and I haven't really written creatively since Grammar School. It isn't perfect, but I had a lot of fun writing it, putting thought into it, and everything. I came up with fun little concepts like
Ariel from the Little Mermaid being the source of Dipper's redhead fetish, and even threw in a few ciphers for kicks.
I hope you enjoy it
and if you don't that's fine too.
She's never going to do anything significant. She was intended to be an unlikable one-dimensional cliche but after positive fan reception Alex decided to conclude the character with redemption.
In the end, none of the characters will do anything significant when it's revealed that the entire series is a dream or the timeline is reset back to the first day of summer again.
I like it and would like to add Wendy Peffercorn to the conversation.
Not to belittle your life or w/e but there is some humor there.
She dressed as Wendy and you were all for it, she dressed as Star and it was all down hill from there.
I just wanted to say thanks. Unless you're an impostor posing as Hirsch.
>Someone actually favourited my story
Damn, didn't expect that.
It was a passion project though, so I'm not sure if I'll do another fic. Gravity Falls made me feel a sense of fun I haven't experienced in years watching a show, and it made me appreciate my family, and how they helped me in difficult times. A lot of Dipper's anxieties I wrote were just a reflection of my own, and Mabel in parts was the kind of person I wished was there to help me.
I saw a commercial or something.
She dressed as Gadget though right?
It's funny they call you manlet but no one calls you seamus.
They call me Sqoouby Doo because I'm always trying to solve your mysteries.
Incidentally, Dipper's first kiss was with a fish man.
Dipper as Squints
>Come up with a cute idea
>People make fetish art in just over an hour
What a world.
THIS 100 timez.
Except they all hook together into an even bigger mech like the gnomes in S1E1
Pacifica pilots the Pterodactyl-Tron chest plate. Completing the Pac Rim Power Rangers parallel.
What else is there ¿ The Gobblewonker and the Shame Bot are canon as well as the presidential robots in Mt Rushmore.
Its story time guys! I'll start then you can join the fun by adding to the tale!
Once upon a golden summer afternoon young Dipper Pines was on a rambunctious adventure in the wilds of Oregon where he sought the supernatural and the strange! On this fine day the sweet lad happened upon that rarest of creatures the fable little gay gnome! The gay gnome was drunken and defensive and was full of lies and excuses! Dipper found the tiny pathetic creature amusing and knelt down real low so as to be on his tiny level. He smiled and said,"Hello there little fella! My name is Dipper! what is yours?"
>yfw Dipper has Wendy train Paz to be a rebel sub-commander
The tiny faggot looked up at the boy and angrily replied none of your damn business! I will block you on twitter if you don't stop harassing me so get out of my way kid i need a drink!!
The tiny manlet puked all over himself and stormed off,tripping on a acorn.
What happened to this show? Everything was amazing up until Not What He Seems. This conclusion is so disappointing. What happened to the cipher wheel, the aliens, The president's key, the stargate, etc. We could've done it all /gfg/. We could've seen the best animated show of all time. Instead we get a meme version of Bill Cipher and his Yo Gabba Gabba reject friends. This is so sad it's funny. What happened in the writers room?
Heresy, Blood Ravens are the only relevant chapter.
>people expecting 12 years old lesbian ending
More like Korra did that. It wouldn't make much sense but it's not impossible to imagine any more since Disney is pretty lgbt friendly.
That said, let's not get into /pol/ "it's not natural no it is natural" debates here. I'd rather hear from the creepy Dipper's knees anon again than that shit.
>Was set up and sunk harder then the Titanic in the span of a single episode.
Yo, I read this since I was curious after all that posting you did about it. If it were on AO3 I'd leave you a kudo, at least (why the hell is it just reviews or favourites on FF.net, still). It was cute.
Also, shout out for that Ogopogo reference. As a kid, I visited the Okanagan a lot during summer vacations, so our shitty Nessie knock-off is near and dear to my heart.
I don't think most people in this thread see it as a real possibility, it's just funny to envision /co/ collectively shitting themselves over the 'pandering' and all the hackposting that would ensue, and the SJW crowd suddenly latching onto the show and heralding it as the best show ever, like what happened with Korra.
But anyone who actually thinks Mabifica happening is in the cards is stupid. Disney as a company is interested in appealing to the widest audience possible, and that means not offending hicks and religious groups who think that two twelve year old girls having a crush on each other is the same thing as hardcore bdsm. Sad, because Mabifica and Padippica would both be equally cute endgame pairings, but at least there's still a ghost of a chance with Padippica.
Alex's little legs couldn't carry him down the last fourth of the track after NWHS, they shattered under the strain and now his tiny, stubby arms are painfully dragging him over the finish line.
>Sad, because Mabifica and Padippica would both be equally cute endgame pairings, but at least there's still a ghost of a chance with Padippica.
You're so close to the right answer there.
Obviously its putting all three together.
>tfw no Pacifica's Adventures of Middle School Autism spinoff
>it's not impossible to imagine any more since Disney is pretty lgbt friendly
You'd think so, going by their image and park/employment policies. But, in truth, they're still pretty conservative when it comes to actually putting gay characters in their franchises. Just a few threads ago, someone brought up the lesbian couple S&P censored in the original Love Gods boards. And those were just throwaway background characters.
For a main character like Mabel, who's arguably the stand out cast member, the pushback would be massive. The only way I can envision a creator like Alex pulling it off is if he publicly announced the ship was canon before ever revealing it in the show. If enough viewers demanded it, Disney would likely cave for fear of media backlash.
Oh, believe me I've already taken that step. Pineswest and
mystery threesomeare my favorite pairings.
But I was talking about what would be appropriate to air on children's television. Even if Gravity Falls was hosted by the most far left television company ever, I don't think they could get away with incestual polyamory.
>the lesbian couple S&P censored in the original Love Gods boards
Thank goodness they did censor it, whatever the reason. I'm fairly progressive when it comes to the topic, but I gotta say that episode was a terrible way to shine a spotlight lesbians couples. Or any couple, really.
Nothing really, people only talked to her here because she was Alex's girlfriend and occasionally had some, SOME behind the scenes info, mostly just relaying stuff Alex says
She even adopted a tripcode and called herself GFGGF to make her presence known
So suffice it to say as soon as Hirsch dumped her/she dumped Hirsch/they broke up she went back to being unknown
>watch the first 4 episodes
>they find some mysterious thing
>it turns out to be magic or whatever
>they fight it at the end
At what point does this show stop being so predictable and boring and actually get good? I can see that it has potential
Which is the bigger cancer, Pinecest or Hackposting?
I'd say Hackposting but I'm biased because I'm shipper trash.
In defense of most pinecest posters, we are generally pretty low key and don't spam our stuff in absolutely every thread.
Character writing tends to be top notch, gags are genuinely funny most of the time, Overarching plot is really interesting and well developed (until S2E11 when it blows its load),
Cute twins being cute
its a well animated show with really fun comedy, some neat creepy visual images & enjoyable characters.
pretty much all there is too it really. going in expecting the war and peace of cartoons is just asking to be disappointed. just enjoy it for what it is, or don't watch if it's not your cup of tea.
At least pinecest is related to the show itself, even if some of the shippers do go over the line with the fetish stuff.
All this drama about the creator's personal life doesn't have anything to with Gravity Falls. It's completely off-topic and I'd like to see it go.
[/spoiler]Honestly, outside of just incest, Pinecest is one of the more vanilla ships around here. You don't really see pinecest posters asking what Mabel's feet smell like, or that kind of stuff like you do with Wendy, Robby, and Chubposters in general. Most pinecest I see is all about handholding and missionary sex so they can hug while boning.[/spoiler]
Both are pretty damned cancerous, but at least Pinecest offers more creative material in the form of art and fanfiction. There are only so many ways you can Hackpost, and most of it is just monotonous.
I will admit hackposting is usually pretty damn samey, but when people figure out how to switch things up it can be good.
I fail to see how Pinecest is any more cancerous than any other ship posting. They're all just about posting the same art over and over until every once in a while, someone makes some more art for it and then that gets added to the cycle.
If anything Pinecest gets new art more often than most of the other ships, so at least there's content being added with relative frequency.
yeah, pinecest is vanilla as fuck. you see way more fetishy stuff written for wendip or padippica in these very threads.
i'll grant that fictional cartoon incest is pretty weird but i'd still say it doesn't rank up on the same level as succubus pyronica vore, giant lumberjack wendy spraying maple syrup from her tits or all those greentexts of pacifica being pavolov trained by the bell to want bend over whenever she hears it ring. that's some much more fetishy stuff right there.
hackposting by a long shot, you can post the same words and pics for so long before it becomes stale and annoying. At least pinecest is always getting new content,
especially from doublepines/limey and oppaianon,hell pinecest has be hinted a few times in the show
>hell pinecest has be hinted a few times in the show
Lets not go crazy here anon. I've been shipping it for years and I know that it is about as non-canon as you can possibly get.
That's just their really close friendship/family dynamic though.
Though its the fact that they are so close and act so damn cute and protective of each other all the time that caused me to ship them in the first place
Anon, you are delusional. They're not "hints". None of the writers are legitimately throwing coy teases out to fans who ship Pinecest. You're misinterpreting gestures everyone else sees as perfectly innocent sibling interaction because you're looking at them through Pinecest-tinted glasses. Whatever colour that might be.
I mean, I ship a crack ship myself, so I know how it is. You take what you can get, and you run with it in fanfics and art, regardless of whether it's true to the original spirit of the show. But trying to claim anything that supports your ship is intentionally being put there because someone on the show secretly ships it (or encourages shipping it) is some silly shit.
Alex and Emmy kissing over the decapitated corpses of Manzi and the Nedroid guy
Not one that's /gfg/ approved, that's for sure.
this could be what he's making in the photo here:
>I made a film with my friend Elliot in 11th grade called "Blunder of the Plunderers" in which a crew of salty pirates crashes into MTV's "Spring Break" island. The trouble begins when the look-out pirate spots a bunch of dancing bikini babes with his spyglass.
>Captain: "What is it, Swilly? What do you see?"
>Swilly: "Booty! And looottttsss of it!"
>Captain: "Really? Full chests?"
>Swilly: "That too"
>Captain: "Blimey! Alright men, batten down the hatches! Shiver the timbers! Swash the buckes!"
>...and so on and so on. In the end they strike a deal with Carson Daly and become a musical group called "The Pillage People" and sing YMCA. Believe it or not, it's actually worse than it sounds.
>PS: I've been tenuously contemplating making a film called "Gnome Arrest" involving a slick garden-gnome thief who gets more than he bargained for when he steals an actual gnome. But...I dunno. We'll see.
June 22, 2005.
He kind of goes out of his way to look like a gnome. Imo Hirsch feels no shame in being a small guy for some. He's a comedy writer and Louis Cuc Kold fan, he's got to have a good sense of self awareness and like self deprecating humour
DP is active again, just not nearly as much as she was in her prime.
But she is drawing.
yeah but she drew it cute and sweet rather than crass and shit
it was more like cute couple shit than outright porn or whatever
also didn't like that she had to fruit it up with the double dippin au
will be sharing unearthed photos of Alex's trip to Ireland in 2005 tomorrow night. prepare your Hirschholes
That bitch has had more black cock in her than a urinal at the Apollo theater.
Seriously, if you liked DP, check out Beetle.
I know you're playing me, but there's a ton of cute non-sexual pinecest art out there.
Pinecest isn't cancer, it's just a ship. People on tumblr telling Pinecest shippers to kill themselves are tumblr cancer, though.
Hackposting can be funny but is mostly too repetitive to be entertaining.
That's what I thought, too. Or rather, I figured what fans he has like him precisely because he's a magnificently unrepentant little shit. But I've seen just enough posts from thrilled Gideon fans gushing about him being redeemed at last to make me reconsider that position.
That said, people are mixing up their timelines regarding Pacifica. Alex claims he was blindsided by the positive response to her redemption in Golf War rather than her original appearance. I recall him remarking on how fast fan perception did a 180 from abject hatred post-Irrational Treasure.
Now I'm curious: were the Pinecest shippers pissed at the last episode, with Mabel replacing Dipper with Dippy Fresh? Just wondering if that's one reason for all the animosity Escape from Reality gets here.
>One more? For old time's sake?
Pretty much. It's been three years already; we're all used to the long breaks by now. What's two or three more months at this point?
I really don't understand why some people are in such a hurry to see the end of the show.
I can't speak for all of them, but I wasn't. Dippy Fresh was just Mabel trying to delude herself that she was making the right decision when she knew that she really wasn't. She snapped out of it at the end.
The animosity mostly came from the crowd that all despise Mabel, but since pinecest shippers like both Dipper and Mabel there probably isn't much overlap in that particular Venn diagram.
Lotta pinecest shippers thought the whole Dippy Fresh thing was cute. Dipper and Mabel couldn't spend a single night in separate rooms but Dippy Fresh wasn't around until he was summoned, so it was a pretty obvious crutch instead of a replacement. And nobody else got a weird bizarro-clone of them made, only Dipper.
>dippy fresh escapes mabelworld just like chazz and crazz or whatever their names are
>he joins with bill
>dipper has to fist fight the mirror mirror version of himself upgraded by bill's cylopean black magic in a climactic battle
i wonder how many times he got mistook for a leprechaun
I want this to happen
>how many times he got mistook for a leprechaun
Behold. The truth is revealed.What is done in the dark is brought to the light and the truth shall live forever.
>mabel standing up on a stage above eye level
>kicking up her feet to
flash her little girl underwear atthe audience
That's pretty fucked up, anon. At least the Pinecestfags usually have the grace to age her up a little first.
I can't say the same for others, but I was hoping to see something more for Mabel than what we got. I dislike the first half of the episode so much because of how Mabel acted like she hadn't mistakenly given the rift to Bill, and how even after all that Dipper, Wendy, and Soos went through in the apocalypse before getting to the bubble, Mabel was generally a piece of shit
I was hoping for Mabel to come to her own senses about being in a dream world, remember what happened with Bill, and that she needs to grow the fuck up, because she'll be left behind if she doesn't
Instead we get a cliche candyland of callbacks and Dipper doing all the thinking and hard work like usual, only to allow Mabel to do something she should have been able to do herself and be the hero in the end
you exaggerate him. he is a vulgar beast, without manzi he will destroy himself soon enough
The episode was weaker than it could have been. Dippyfresh, and how ok Mabel was with him as a replacement, seemed very out of character, but most of the hate came from the "MABEL IS A SHE DEMON WHO FEASTS ON DIPPER'S HAPPINESS" crowd.
I just appreciate being able to find Pinecest art here without the 10/1 of "you're a pedophile and a bad person" to actual art or anything else like on tumblr.
I think that's some projection right there anon.
Personally I have a sister who I don't want to bang in the slightest, but I find Pinecest cute because of the love and commitment they have to each other.
I just wanted Mabel to save the day.
Mabel is what got me into Gravity Falls in the first place.
I wanted her to finally be a hero!
I kind of feel like I was sold a bill of goods.
tumblr taught me that if ship something and one or both of the characters was ever a child, then you are a pedophile, even if the characters are now old people.
Also if one character was ever mean to the other then you condone real life abuse and are probably thinking about abusing real people right now.
no, only my childhood avatar can triumph over dad-i mean bill!! oh and soos and blendin because they are based off my boyfriends
I found out several months ago that my sister also ships Pinecest. I think it filled her little head with... ideas. I don't think I want to admit to how far I've stupidly let her take it.
I haven't fully convinced myself I want it to stop, actually. Despite enjoying Pincest, I never would have thought of her that way. She had other plans apparently.
If you do decide to keep letting her continue, just make sure you or her don't do something that both of you will regret later on and damage your relationship, good luck m8
Thanks. It's hard to be careful in a situation like this but you're right. I think I at least need to understand where she stands with this. She should at least understand the dangers and possibilities. I'll bring it up... uh... next time. Thanks bro.
What a waste. I was in another fandom on tumblr back in early 2011, when the site was just starting to come into its own as a platform for fandom content creators. At first, it was a hotbed for all sorts of interesting, risque shit. You could find most artists' porn blog listed openly in their About. And, although there was plenty of squabbling, people mostly fought their battles with small cliques of followers rather than through huge fandom-wide smear campaigns. You could shrug off most attackers by simply closing your ask box.
But now, sorting through my old bookmarks, I see that nine out of every ten blogs I used to follow have either been nuked by their owners or purged of any controversial ships or art. The remainder have locked their shit down tighter than Fort Knox and stopped tagging helpfully. And tags in newer fandoms are constantly awash in petty, stupid slapfights over how problematic everything under the sun is. Which makes finding anyone you even want to follow in the first place a real pain in the ass.
Sorry for the blog shitpost, but I don't have anywhere else to vent about this anymore.
>but most of the hate came from the "MABEL IS A SHE DEMON WHO FEASTS ON DIPPER'S HAPPINESS" crowd.
It also came from the jive that this is the penultimate episode, and it ended the same way every other god damn episode with Mabel and Dipper at odds ended (sans Sock Opera of course).
This sums up my thoughts, too.
There has been some push back lately. I've noticed lately that instead of there being ship wars, it's everybody who ships anything that could ever be considered remotely problematic (in other words, every ship) in an alliance vs. people who constantly spam the ship tags with hate and get people's tumblrs taken down. And I'm a wuss when its comes to this stuff, loli and shota freak me the fuck out and make me feel like throwing up, but that's not even the stuff they're crusading against. They've launched this huge campaign against perfectly harmless and silly ships. Oh, and art where they think Steven Universe characters are too skinny or the wrong skin time. 99% of the time they're bullying kids over this stuff, too.
Oh, man, I'd die. My brother and I are super close and we watch GF together. Probably one of my bigger fears is my brother finding out that I ship Pinecest/Stancest and thinking that it means I have those kinds of feelings for him/I wanna fug.
Realistically, it's probably best to tell her no, even if you do feel that way. Social consequences for that kind of thing irl are life-ruining.
I agree with this. Part of the reason I ship Pinecest is that after all the shit they've gone through, a little incest taboo is such minor shit that it wouldn't even register, which is also why I scoff at stories where they get found out by their parents and it's a SUPER HUGE DEAL AND EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOREVER. But I doubt anyone in this thread has wrestled a multibear or been possessed by a sadomasochistic dream demon or stared down the end of the world or any one of the fifty other things the twins have gone through that'd leave most people a twitching PTSD-ridden mess, so for you guys the taboo is probably a pretty big deal, so think pretty goddamn hard before you decide to take it on.
Tumblr for a brief time ruined GF for me because of this tiny clique of raging SJW types who ran me and a couple close friends into the ground. The whole nine yards tumblr style. Heay use of the term "problematic" lots of accusations of racism,pedophilia,transphobia,anti semitism ect basically everything they could throw at us. That sight is the internet equivalent of AIDS. It's just toxic and destructive. Now they're on my pal Smirking-sir's ass for his Billdip stuff and mean come on. He's the nicest dude out there and he's just a sweet 17 yr old kid who never hurt anyone. These fat clown haired sjw cunts need to go fuck off and die.
I like to think that as well. Stan's a pretty amoral character when it comes to people who aren't his family, so I can't imagine him getting high and might about how wrong it is. And with all of Ford's dimension hopping, he's probably visited places where that sort of thing simply isn't stigmatized.
Also, they have no room to judge, considering that they did all sorts of lewd things with each other back in the day.
They act like pieces of shit, and what's even more ridiculous is how silly the "evils" they rail against are. Pinecest is a damn fluffy ship, Billdip involves a magical talking triangle, no one is going to fuck a magical talking triangle and be scarred by it in real life. No one will be traumatized by a picture of Steven and Peridot holding hands. People might get depressed after being harassed and doxxed, though.
The Ava's Demon thing was pretty fucked up too, when the creator mentioned she wasn't planning on including any asexual characters, or when the Gunnerkrieg Court guy was harassed for an offhand comment bent out of context. It's just shitty in general and makes me think of radical conservatives trying to censor everything than anyone trying to help people. This site can be horrible too,of course, although people here are more...honest about being horrible, maybe?
The really frustrating thing about the armchair SJW hate brigade is how, despite their fervour to protect hypothetical people who might be indirectly harmed by particular trends in media (look at that asinine jumble of words I just typed), they see no logical dissonance in hounding real fucking people into a state of total misery. They have zero compassion. Most of them are more interested in censoring fiction which discomfits them personally than in helping anybody.
I'm pretty thick-skinned by now (thanks, 4chan), so most of that crap rolls right off me. But if I'd had to take that many personal attacks at 17 I can't imagine I'd have handled it well. I pity your friend.
>I'd imagine the Grunkles would be supportive.
I'd expect Stan to be weirded out, but not judgemental. He's not the most liberated guy out there, but he knows full well he's no paragon of virtue either. I think his love for the twins would overcome his discomfort eventually.
And yeah, Ford's morality is as grey as his hair. Between the mind control tie and handing out crossbows like candy, I can't see him objecting to a little sibling smooching.
Partying until they can't see straight.
>honest about being horrible, maybe
4chan doesn't call itself the good guys and admits the stuff we do is wrong, we are honest about us being assholes and even then we don't take it as far as tumblr does. Tumblr, meanwhile, bullies people to try and commit suicide and says they're doing the right thing and erases people's identities when they say things they don't want to hear. Tumblr paints itself as a paragon of goodness while being anything but.
Seriously, when 4chan becomes a safer place to be that tumblr, due to the fact we don't dox people for the shittiest and pettiest of things, then the staff that works on tumblr needs to get their priorities straight.
Like I said, I haven't written anything like this before, so I'm deeply appreciative to know anyone liked it.
This music is fucking crazy doe.
why is breeks soundcloud not in the OP?
Wow, look at all those new tracks. And that new icon.
>why is breeks soundcloud not in the OP?
That's a good suggestion. Especially now that he's regularly uploading GF music again.
Seriously, he's the best thing that happened to Gravity Falls, his music quality, his attitude towards Disney, I mean as a fan of the show I get to enjoy so many pieces without having to watch the episodes all the time (which probably is what Disney wants).
I'll make a music appreciation post later with all the gems he just released.
pixiv Gravity Falls (Japanese for Gravity Falls anyways) is filled with weird shit.
Unrelated - Also, Dominica is a really great artist. Fucking fantastic. We are blessed.
Mabel wants to fugg Pacifica but she's pretty sure Pacifica is straight so she persuades Dipper to be part of a package deal with her, and then the twins try to combine their dorky charm on Pacifica, who is mostly confused at what the hell is going on.
Mabel, Dipper, and Pacifica attend a cute Gravity Falls yearly folk festival together. They get separated from the group at one point and sexytimes happen.
Maybe both Dipper and Pacifica and Mabel and Pacifica have had encounters before this point, while Mabel and Dipper have has serious sexual tension for years. While they're hiding in a cave from ghosts, it all comes out. They realize it's silly to get so hung up on taboos, and give the three way a try. Then, they're addicted...
Just an idea.
Not that anon but I assume so, and assume Pineswest shippers are also Pinescest shippers along with Paddipica and Mabifica shippers. I think OT3 works best that way, anyway. For polyamory fetishtists, all of the relationships should be there.
But I'd be happy with anything really.
It's been years since I last saw a demotivational poster in the wild. Weird.
These are both pretty cute ideas! I'll see what I can do about turning them into longer stories. I've been wanting to write more of this stuff lately, just been short on inspiration.
dipper: auuugh oh my god what happened while i was out of my body?
mabel: Oh That...Yeah you might don't want to know what bill did with your hand pal.....
Huh. You know, there's plenty of Bipper/Mabel and some Babel/Dipper art. And the other two ships are huge. But I haven't seen much that combines all three characters into a proper OT3. I feel like that's worth attempting just to prove it can be done.
I would/might do it just to make people mad. I am super spiteful and think the anti-shipper accounts are actually shitty for free speech and artistic expression. At this point, I'll get behind the things they most oppose, which seem to be Pinecest and Billdip in this fandom. I just don't like being told what I'm "allowed" to think.
>implying Dipper and Mabel wouldn't be totally grossed out at the thought of even kissing on the lips
>yfw your shit ship is NEVER going to be canon
What do you think was behind the double doors Mabel offered to Dipper in Mabeland?
It was a metaphor for her vagina.
They're already AUs. That's the whole point of the multiverse. We're all connected.
Dipper and Mabel could literally meet themselves from the House of Cool version or even be turned into them.
>The episode is easy setup to have a look into Mabel's internal working as a person
>It's just randumb jokes she spewed over the course of the show
It's like Mabel isn't even a character anymore, if she ever were. Just a noise machine and a mobiel obstacle that haunts Dipper's life.
Stanley did. With ATOTS it was revealed he had quite a tough life. Not all cartoon characters get a divorce, kicking outta home and disowning, criminal records, emotional pain, usage of drugs (probably as it was implied in the sense with rico)...
Yeah, I agree there should've had more character arcs, development and inner stories. The Hirsch keeps claiming this story is about characters, but honestly it never felt so much like it. Stanley is the best character, in my opinion.
> usage of drugs probably
He "traffics illegal pugs" and keeps a "vase" on the floor next to his bed.