Nordic Food Thread

>>8835956
Please explain what im looking at

>>8835956
American of Danish birth here. I love me some gravlax, though I prefer to eat it with fresh dill & thinly sliced raw onion.

>>8835959

A piece of toasted bread. Gravlax (cured salmon) on top, with what looks like mustard and capers. Boiled egg on the side.

To be honest this does look too bad i just dont like that yellow shit smeared on it i feel like it something id have to be in the mood for

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>mfw britbongs get mad about eating reindeer because of muh rudolph

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>>8835965
>>8835974

>>8835974
>>8835965

That's a somewhat strong, slightly sweet mustard with dill on top. It's pretty good. I've seen jars of it sold at Ikea.

>>8835956
>Post and discuss Nordic cuisine.

why tho

>>8835999
Because it's underrated and delicious.

>>8836018
That is so pretty.
Is it Noma?

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>>8836023
No idea

>>8836023
I find the "pretty" aspect of places like Noma and other "new Nordic" sorts of restaurants as being rather strange.

My family comes from Scandinavia. My parents grew up on a small farm, and honestly their life and diet was really about the same as someone from the US south. You had chickens, pigs, horses, and cattle on the farm. Vegetables were grown in the garden. Hams cured and put away for the winter. Root cellar. Canning, pickling, and curing was used to preserve vegetables for consumption out-of-season. Some of the exact types of food were different but there was a large amount of overlap and the same sorts of procedures were used to preserve foods for out of season. Go watch "Mind of a Chef" and it's scary how similar things are between Sean Brock (US South) and Magnus Nielsen (Nordic).

....but then you have places like Noma. The raw ingredients might be typical for Scandinavia, but the processes used & the presentation are totally different. I'm not complaining, I just find this rather interesting.

>>8836071
guess how I know you're lying

>>8835981
Do they though? I know some people are retarded, but surely it's not that much of a stretch to reindeer once you've had venison.

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God tier

>>8836018
Beautiful.

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Lapskojs. Also god tier.

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Lufsa. Pretty much god tier.

>>8836075

Not the same anon, but I'm curious. Do share, please.

>>8836077
They literally get mad about it every single year.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/food/article-2864653/Like-slice-Rudolph-Christmas-lunch-Animal-rights-campaigners-furious-Lidl-stocking-reindeer-meat-does-taste-like.html
http://www.thejournal.ie/poll-reindeer-meat-2446924-Nov2015/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3932032/Backlash-reindeer-meatballs-pub-menu-run-Christmas.html

>>8836021
no its not

>>8835981

that bad boy needs some lingonberry jam

>>8835981
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>>8835956

>>>/b/ is the board for gore

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Smoked deer heart.
Pure ambrosia.

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Lamprey.
The GOAT beer snack.

>>8836075

lol, what do you think I'm lying about?

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Autumn stew without chanterelle and lingon is heresy.

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Janssons temptation.
Gratin with potato and anchovies and somehow absolutely amazing.

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Lamb violin.
Leg of lamb smoked with juniper.

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Macaroni boiled in milk.
This is what absolute trash eats and it's our glorious nations greatest shame.

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>>8836265
Kek.
I'll contribute: herring on rye bread with red onions. Especially popular around Easter, so now's a fitting time to post this.

>>8836217
Omg I want to try that.

>>8835956
>gravlax
>nordic

Nice try, Rabbi Schicklegruber

>>8836071
>The raw ingredients might be typical for Scandinavia, but the processes used & the presentation are totally different.

That's because it's a fine dining presentation which is a system that rose out of France post revolution, when unemployed chefs and nobles servants parlayed their skills into a new industry that promised to allow the common man to experience dining as the super elite had.

The arranging of the food is all part of the theatre intended to sell that experience. All fine dining shares it's root with the French system, with the exception of molecular which often purposefully lampshades the traditions to be cheeky.

You aren't supposed to 'eat' that fish, you're supposed to taste it and experience it. It's meant to be a focus for all the senses

Being a poorfag and a fatty, I hate it. I'd rather have good rustic food.

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>>8835956
when sweden finally got bananas

>>8836217
Is it tender? What would you eat it with? Root vegetables or on a sandwich or what?

>>8836223
Are these whole fish, bones and all like tinned sardines? What's the marinade or coating on them? Or is that just their natural colour after grilling? Since you're saying they're a great beer snack I assume they're quite salty.

Just about everything ITT looks delicious btw.

>>8836053
Bones and yams?

>>8837232
is that peanuts? what is that thing?

>>8836078
Pitepalt > kroppkakor

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no thread complete without it

From Texas, I spent a lot of time over the last few years in sweden and norway. I fucking love their liver paste, the tinned herring from norway, and all the different ways of tinning fish and other things with various ingredients i learned in sweden.

Also, there were tons of black and yellow chanterelles and blueberries growing in the fall, and lots of wild reindeer and pig sausage. 10/10 would go back if my gf didnt dump me couple months ago

>>8836071

noma also has a massive focus on food preservation. they do pickling and fermentation and shit. it's a fine dining restaurant though. also most places in scandinavia are not like the southern US, kek.

>>8838084
You Nords are weird. We nake milk steak with jelly beans, rare, of course.

>>8838211
>the tinned herring from norway
you either mean mackerel or sardines. I hope.

>>8838211
On top of that, I remember finding some things called Blek taggsvamp, and I found a huge patch of these other things that were called i think Citronengulling. They were slimy yellow on the top and you peeled it off and it had a great lemony mushroom flavor in the rest of it. I sauteed them and rolled them into a pastry dough and made some mushroom pasties.
All the old people got up super early and grabbed all the Karl Johan before I had a chance, but I found one big guy out in the deep.

>>8838239
yeah, it was mackerel, sorry. you could buy them for like 3 bucks either in tomato sauce or oil and they were super delicious.

>>8838084
I ate like 1.5 kilos of that during Easter

can i request some nice nordic recipes with meat as a main ingredient?

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>>8838250
this is some of the brown and yellow chanterelles

>>8838265
you have that numale look, anon

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>>8838273

Rare opinion: mämmi is fucking delicious and doesn't really look that bad. I tried it first a few days ago, but sadly i was in Helsinki for only one day and idk when will i come back. 10/10 would return just for this great Finnish speciality

>>8838265
Why do you have tits and a beard? Are you FtM?

>>8838265
you have very æsthetic hands btw

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>>8838293
no i think my pockets were full of mushrooms desu, although i wouldnt mind a nice pair of boobs.
>>8838297
thx

>>8837285
The heart is a delicacy, not a meal, you eat it as is.

The lampreys are whole and there's no marinade.
They're prepared by throwing a shitload of live ones in a bucket or whatever, covering with a fuckton of coarse salt and stirring til dead.
You hastily remove the frothy salt coating with your hands before grilling.

>>8838070

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Jacob

>>8838291
With cream and some sugar, it's great.

>>8838224
A milk steak should be boiled over hard, you disgusting pleb.

>>8838265
Stekta kantareller på en hård brödbit med saltat smör är guld kant
Annars är trattisar fan numero uno i powerranking

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Best bread.

>>8838468
Du skriver ihop powerranking men av någon outgrundlig anledning så tycker du att guldkant ska särskrivas.

>>8838477
Ber om ursäkt, kom precis hem från jobbet och ska precis lägga mig så är lite sliten. Har även en släng av dyslexi och rättstavningsprogrammet verkar inte ta särskrivningar.

>>8838482
Nej, jag kallar det för svensk utbildning.

>>8838484
Ehhh, orka bli upprörd på ett anonymt forum. Varför sitter du förresten här en fredag kl 13? Har inte du något jobb att dra till?=

>>8838489
sweddit snälla gå

Prata engelska eller dü.

>>8838496
No, but how many chickentendies are you getting today for being such a good neetboi?

>>8838508
Nog för en livstid. Gå ut och tjäna lite pengar åt mig nu, löneslav.

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Better pic of what OP was trying to show off.
Its really, really good. One of my favorite dishes in the world, gravad lax, served as it is or with romsås (basically sour cream and roe) or hovmästarsås (a mild, sweet mustard based sauce).

>>8837232
delete this

>>8838426
for me it was just sweet enough by itself, but it tasted equally good paired (not mixed) with sour berries ice cream. I've found some recipes and now i'm thinking about trying to make mämmi myself, ingredients and cooking method seem really easy

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Another good swedish dish, pickled herring (not surströmming) and potatoes. It may not look like much, but the simple flavors mix really well, and the fresh potatoes tastes a lot more than your average potato.

>>8838546
is that sour cream? in russia we don't put sour cream and herring in the same dish, but we too enjoy pickled herring + boiled potatoes + additionally red onions and dill.

>>8838557
It's sour cream. Tradition is the deciding factor I guess. In my head sour cream and herring goes perfect together. We do use red onion sometimes, as well as chives.

Jesus Christ do you people not believe in fucking vegetables?

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sandwich cake is best cake

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>>8838586

>>8838586

there are 3 posts in this thread without vegetables.

>>8838602
Thank you for confirming that scandifags don't understand vegetables

>>8838603

what vegetables would you accept?

>>8838622
please point out the three dishes in this thread that has no vegetables, then I can explain why most of the rest are in all practical effect, also without vegetables

>>8838586
Of course we eat vegetables, this is traditional scandinavian food that's not eaten very often. The traditional cuisine mostly contains root-plants as the vegetable of choice.

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>>8838625
in winter, yes. In spring time fresh greens is the thing. I'm gonna harvest a ton of skvallerkål this weekend.

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>>8838651

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>>8838655
and in june the wild strawberries ripen up

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>>8838657
birch leaves for tea should be picked before mid may

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>>8838663
same with dandelion

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>>8838586
This is mashed roots.
It contains carrots, parsnip and rutabalaga or whatever the fuck it is you call it.

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>>8838586
Liver paste with pickles is lovely.

>>8838624

there's the smoked heart, the lamprey and the macaroni

>>8836823
>That's because it's a fine dining presentation which is a system that rose out of France post revolution....

Yes, I know the origins of it. It just seems like an odd mismatch to combine that kind of fancy presentation with such rustic roots. Then again, that may be the point?

>>8838219
>also most places in scandinavia are not like the southern US, kek.

Clearly. I wasn't talking about the status quo, I was talking about the historical roots. What was typical home cooking until, perhaps, the 1950's or so.

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>>8838810
>not sliced gherkins

>>8837285
>Are these whole fish, bones and all

Yes, those are whole fish. The ones in that photo are clearly smoked.

I haven't had lamprey like that, but I have had mackerel, herring, and eel prepared like that many times with family in Denmark.

We'd open up the cavity of the fish where it had been gutted. It will then flop open like a book, with the two fillets on either side and the spine down the middle. After smoking they are so tender that you can just lift the bones off and discard them. Then you pick the meat up off the skin (likewise, the meat just lifts off) and place it on a piece of bread (or however else you want to eat it).

>>8836171

Can't they just call it caribou, or is the entire point eating reindeer at chtistmas?

For that matter, how sure are we that this isnt manufactured outrage for publicity/to draw in the curious?

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>>8835956
All these replies yet none posting lutfisk yet? Does it not exist over there anymore? My mormor always made it during the holidays. Shit is delicious.

>>8838826
The lamprey is eaten whole, guts, bones and all.
Sissies usually skip the head though.

>>8838856
caribou is an American animal. Reindeer is a Euroasian animal. Those links are to British media and concerns reindeer.

>>8838859
I can eat your mormor's lutefisk all night long

nordic cuisine a shit desu schmesu

>>8838810
>not beets
I admit pickles are an upgrade over just plain sliced cucumber.

>>8838869
That's just rude man
Never insult someone's mormor

>>8838866

Caribou and reindeer are still both rangifer tarandus, though. I'm saying either avoid the controversy and call it by the other name for the species, or play into it and lure the edgy faggots/curious.

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>>8838890

>>8838906
it's not the same.

>>8838909
you're mean

You nord niggers have such nice food.

just cooked some fårikål. even though i really don't like fat meats, this particular dish is amazing and norsk cuisine is god tier.

>>8836023
>noma
googled it for pics and instantly regretted it

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Crayfish.
Boiled with loads of dill and washed down with loads of snaps.

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Most've the Nordic countries are alright. I liked Norway's fish based dishes the best. I really liked their fiskesuppe even though it's super varied across the country.

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Snaps is a moderately vile alcohol spiced wonderfully.
It goes down 6 or 3 cl at a time along with a song.

>>8835981
Got enough taters with your fluids?

>>8836018
This is pretty and filters for children who balk at being forced to see the things they eat were once living things.

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Blueberry pie
A thick sweet sludge with some shitty crumbs

>>8836217
Why would you toughen up an already tough piece of sinew and muscle?

>>8836265
This looks American as fuck and I would destroy it.

>>8838084
wtf is this? it's like someone's death shit.

>>8838265
Very nice fingers.

>>8838321
What do the red things taste like? Currants?

>>8840236
Because it's sliced thin, we have functioning teeth and mainly because it tastes absolutely amazing.

>>8840242
It's finnish.

>>8838475
I want to like it but my weak, Irish teeth cannot handle it.

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>>8840239
I'd say it looks more post soviet than american.

>>8838598
Would eat the fuck out of that. What types of toppings usually get used?

>>8838657
Awww they're so cute!

>>8838909
kek

>>8840233
This looks tasty and you probably eat at McDonalds 7 times a week.

>>8840264
Idk what it is about flavorless slop with pasta in it but I love it.

>>8838859
My dad is the only one that eat lutefisk in my family 2bh. Personally not a fan.

I've always wonder why lutefisk was the dish the Norwegians brought with them.

>>8840250
They are lingonberries, similar to red currants but more cranberry-ish. I think it is closely related to cranberry.

>>8840456
>closely related to cranberry

I doubt it, but I'm too lazy to look it up. Cranberries grow in water, lingonberries are a bush.

>>8840467
After a short google, cranberries, blueberries, and lingonberries are all members of the Ericaceae or "heath" family.

I don't know if that makes them closely related though, bc its a huge family, but they are somewhat related.

>>8838393
In my family we always put the peanuts in afterwards, just so you can microwave the leftovers without getting really gross peanuts.

>>8838859
I'm not a fan, it's completely without taste.

>>8835981
look at all that juice, gross

and fuck me, do you guys eat an entire jar of pickles with every meal?!

>>8840497
Yeah, Family is 2 levels above Species on the hierarchy, so "closely related" is stretching it.

All this shit looks like disgusting crap you'd see on Kay's good cooking

>>8840467
>Cranberries grow in water

ayo dis nigga retarded

>>8840793
They kinda do though. Have you ever seen a cranberry harvest? Very interesting to watch.

>>8840798
I see plenty cranberry bogs

But yah it is pretty cool when they flood the bogs

>>8838906

next you'll be coming up to canada and confiscating our seal clubs

>>8840236
this is like complaining about prosciutto for being too chewy

>>8836259
looks fucking incredible

You guys got any desserts you'd recommend?

>>8841119
>>8840233

>>8841119
>>8838286

>>8841119
>>8837232

Finnes det noen nordmenn på denne tråd?

>>8842321
finns are not nordic, but they belong to northern europe which technically makes them a part of the nordic 5.

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>>8842328
You are confusing Scandinavia with Nordic.

>>8842354
fuck. yes, i did a mistake. finns are nordic, but not scandinavian.

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>>8842374
Is okay, honestly enough most finns seem to get it wrong too. Have some reindeer.

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>>8836233
I feel like I like the idea of the stew more than I like the ingredients. I would eat that with a rough hewn wooden spoon by firelight on a chair I made myself while listening to the gentle lowing of the reindeer outside. My wife would be tucking the children into their bed and going to grab a bottle of mead to share by the fire where we would talk about our chores for the next day and how long this winter is going to be.

>>8842408
btw, i couldn't find any fresh lingoberries yesterday, so i made this jam, similar to one on your pic, with cranberries. i've had storebought lingoberrie sause before, and homemade is several times better, maybe because i use only a very little sugar.
I've heard that swedes often add sugar to all their food, is that true?

>>8842421
looking at pictures of northern lights, i feel like this is what i want to be the last thing i see before i die, lost somewhere in the woods of Norway or lonely black Icelandic cliffs.

>>8840233
Sometimes I get boners and I don't know why. I saw your post and I knew why.

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Step aside ladies.

>>8842436
Too much interesting imagery. Let me ruin it. I want to die of a massive stroke while plowing your mom.

>>8842444
my mom is dead, wow, are you a necrophile too? desu i prefer corpses of younger people and maybe animals, but i can't judge your taste ofc.

>>8842423
Don't know about the swedes, not common here in Finland tho.
But i agree that lingonberry jam is better with less sugar.

>>8842448
Did you ever see the couple threads from the guy who imagines he is in a concentration camp while he eats soup? He always started the thread talking about how he thought the feelings and imaginings you have from food make it taste better. I liked the way that guy thought. It's an interesting thought. What do you think?

>>8842438
made me diamonds tbqhwy

>>8838823
Gherkins are pickles.

>>8842455
i've never seen or heard of those threads, but that seems really interesting. do you have threadshots or links?
i love playing vegan propaganda videos in my head (or literally playing them on laptop if i feel so) while eating meat, because sufferings make it taste way better.

>>8842328

Retard, 'finnes det' means 'are there'. I was asking if there are any norwegians in the thread, I'm learning norwegian.

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>>8842523
>I'm learning norwegian

>>8842540

Oh, pray tell, what language should I learn?

>>8842554
Why learn a language spoken by a handful of people and is never used outside of national boundaries? Why not learn a language that will open a different region of the world and sounds impressive in social and professional settings? Why waste time and effort to learn a language when people speaking said language all already know English, and when they don't care if you speak their language or not?

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>>8838084

>>8842577

Have you ever thought that people do some things just for fun and not for some practical reason?

>>8842599
Why did you choose Norwegian?

>>8836171
Mandatory reminder that the daily mail is a sensationalist tabloid and is not, never has been, and never will be a reliable source of news.
They flat-out make up stories to print.

>>8842608
Not the same anon but as a swede, learning norwegian makes sense as it's the easiest to understand by swedes and danes.

>>8842628
Also, if you speak norwegian you won't have much difficulty understanding both swedish and danish.

>>8842628
you mean like english, which also works on finns?

>>8842628
If you are Swedish you can understand Norwegian without learning the language. It's like Spanish-Portuguese, so similar it is pointless to waste energy on it. Even if certain misunderstandings happen you can just ask the person you're talking to to clarify the meaning.

>tfw plain Norwegian and Swedish are more similar than the internal dialects of said languages.
>tfw a Swede can be understood in Oslo better than a person from West or North Norway

>>8842641
Who the fuck wants to be able to communicate with finns?

>>8842628
>>8842643

I'm the english anon learning it, pretty much the same answer

>>8842653
You, as an brit, want to learn Norwegian because it is the easiest to understand by swedes and danes?

>>8842608

I'm just interested in how it looks and sounds is all. As you probably guessed I'm an aspie and languages/orthography is one of my autist interests

>>8842650
>not wanting your own moonshine-producing drinking buddy
>not wanting a sauna-loving, winter-friendly human pet

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Ostkaka masterrace

>>8842657
You should have chosen Chinese t b q h pharmaland

>How it looks and sounds
How does Norwegian sound like to you?

>>8842659
>implying you can't find a moonshine-producing drinking buddy

Fun fact: Norwegians produce the largest amount of moonshine of the nordic countries. Like Sweden, you can't buy alcohol on sundays, but alcohol is almost three times more expensive.

>>8842668
It's difficult finding Norwegians to keep as pets. The damn things keep escaping.

>>8835981
You're supposed to keep the drink in a seperate glass.

>>8842676
But the finns are dangerous. Those fuckers carry knives and don't afraid to use it.

>>8842683
>tfw no drunkard pet to protect you with knifey skills
;_;

>>8842668
>Like Sweden, you can't buy alcohol on sundays, but alcohol is almost three times more expensive.
In Sweden, moonshining is really only common in the northern parts. I'm from the southernmost province, people just go to Germany to get liquor. Norway is not part of the EU, so you can't just bring alcohol into the country in the same way.

>>8842681

nah

pouring the juices and grease right on top of the mashed potatoes is definitely the way to go.

>>8835981
GREAT, now I am fucking hungry, that looks incredible delicious, thanks for posting anon.

>>8842656
No, because it is a germanic language without too many weird rules, which makes it easy for an angelcynn

>>8842662

I've considered chinese, but you can learn more than one language, anon-kun.

I just like the sound of the vowels and the orthography, it doesn't sound as clunky as other nordic tongues.

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RÄKMACKA Masterrace

ok, so i'm learning Icelandic which has less than half a million speakers. why? it's fucking brutal and tough and yes people do learn things for pleasure.

>>8842858
A smart man would learn beneficial things for pleasure. Same investment, except you kill two bird with your stone not one. Learn to maximize your situation, friend.

>>8842862
I've already learned English and I don't want to learn Chinese yet. I'm going to visit Iceland and I want to speak local language at least a little. Also: reading scandinavian ancient things in original

Were Norwegians vikings? Amerifat here we're kind of iffy on which one of your fucking countries vikings actually came from.

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>>8842897
Vikings were pirates that came from the Scandinavian lands basically, I'm not sure if Norway existed as it does today back then, but Sweden certainly didn't.

>>8842897
Yup. They even moved to skye (skíð), an island in scotland.

>>8836171
>Daily mail represents entire nation

weeeeww in that case why arent you speaking arabic by nord freind

>>8843237

GARJALA :DDDDDD

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>norwegian cuisine

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For me, it's pic related.

>>8843457
I've heard that over 50% of the Norwegian population considers this a national dish, is that true? That would be horrible considering Grandiosa is really bad frozen pizza.

>>8843491
Yes. It tastes like, and has the nutritional value of cardboard, but we still eat it for some mysterious reason

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>>8842897
>which one of your fucking countries vikings actually came from.

Vikings is just a cover term for the Germanic tribes that hailed from the areas of roughly modern Norway, Denmark and Sweden.

Those nations as actual unified entities did not necessarily exist at the time though.

>>8843512
Dr. Oetker is top tier frozen pizza, that's the only frozen pizza I eat.

>>8836217
How the fuck is deer heart so big?

>>8843531
It looks to be the size of a working man's fist. That's normal.

>>8842577
Norwegian is the best language to learn out of the 3 main Scandanavian languages. You can be understood and understand enough to talk to a Swede or a Dane..

>>8843594
>he thinks working makes your hands bigger

>>8844292
it doesn't change the bone or the tendons, but if you look at the hands of any person doing physical labour for a living you'll see massive pie hands. Callouses and fleshyness. Even women, you can look at someone working a lifetime at a farm and she'll have huge hands compared to office working relatives. The skin is rough too. This is news to you?

>>8844329
Except that's not true, lol. Youw ill get some major callouses but your hands never change in size after you pass puberty. There are no muscles in your hands. Hand size is 100% genetics.

>>8844338
>There are no muscles in your hands.

lol.

>>8840197
this guy knows whats up. i fucking love crayfish,

like once a year i gather up some frinds and we have a big crayfish feast, we eat like 3 packs each

>>8844414
Sorry, I should be more specific.
There are no muscles in your fingers and the small muscles found at the base of your thumb and palm are superficial, and serve only as a small extension of your forearm to assist in grip strength. Hand muscles do not change in size from more or less use.

>>8838598
Yeah I'd take a big slice of that. Looks dank

>>8844338
>Except that's not true, lol. Youw ill get some major callouses but your hands never change in size after you pass puberty
>except that's not true
>except major callouses
Exactly what I said you spergy dogfucker. Note that I didn't mention muscles, I mentioned callouses and fleshyness. Hands that look like beaten beef. Idiot.

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>>8844338
>>8846667
Here you go. Also, the body changes a lot after how you use it. It's more than just genes. Archeologists who dug up old English archers noted that the skeleton around the shoulders had been shaped by huge muscles and tendons. Being a big guy and drawing a bow all day every day had literally been imprinted on their skeleton. And you say hands, the body tool we use the most, won't get changed from lifestyle? Look at pic related's stumpy meat pies.

>>8846676
Have you never in your life met a guy who works out in a field ll day and has wiry, calloused hands? It's just as common as meeting businessmen with oversized apish hands. It has no bearing on your trade, outside of a well-worn and callous weathered nature. The only feature I could consider is a kind of "flattening" that comes from continuous gripping and beating into the palms.

DUDE HINGA DINGA DURGEN LMAO

>>8846816
Sorry, I guess we were talking about the same thing and I came off sounding like an asshole.

>>8846676
Regardless, a working man's fist is going to stay the same size as anyone else's - it may morph and become degraded but it will still be the same relative size. It's a stupid idiom, that was my point.

>>8846850
That's like saying guys who lift don't get taller therefore aren't getting bigger. If hands widen out, fingers look stubby, and it looks like they're wearing gloves even though they're not, their hands are bigger.

>>8846810
That's the fat person effect. It's the skinny guy with wiry calloused hands I'm talking about. Their hands are bigger than they normally would be and you can't blame fat, water retention or heart disease.

>>8840267
roastbeef / cheese or salmon / shrimp are the most usual

>>8838811
The first two are served as part of Smörgåsbord, and the vegetables are present on another plate. As for the macaroni, it's served with ketchup.