/alc/ my second day back on whiskey

Kill me

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>>8437798
If you need a better high smoke heroin.

>>8437808
its the white man killer

klonopin drinker here
started early, just took 3 shots

>>8437808
this; opiates are not only a better high but healhier too unless you're getting cheap ass cut to shit horse. Not a problem for me tho cause I'm rockin them pharmaceuticals

I'm 5 days off the bottle, and I've lost 10 lbs already. Yes, I know it's just water weight from the bloating that alcohol causes, but that's still a good thing.

>>8438868
6 days here, feeling pretty great. Kinda at a loss about Friday night though, not sure how to have fun.

Whenever I quit smoking weed for a while when I start again it's fucking awesome but I'm getting a distinctly different vibe from this thread.

>>8438955
I know, it's hard. I was thinking the same thing, what the fuck am I going to do on the weekend?
I think the answer is: Anything that keeps us from thinking about drinking.
I'll probably maniacally clean the house till there's nothing left to clean, and make a big meal, make a fire, and drink hot chocolate while watching a movie or something. I find that hot chocolate and chocolate milk really kill the urge for alcohol for me, but different things work for different people. I'm also going to go for a long walk tomorrow morning while listening to music that makes me feel like I can fight through anything.

>>8438955
>how to not spend the weekend drinking
>>8438966 this

I have so far cut my drinking in half and the key is the time I would drink I would do something. anything. Cooking is great for this, for it allows you it is a net positive so much that it removes the need to drink. Cleaning works too.

Also, since I am always on an electronic device, is I use programs to remove the blue tint after sun set. This results in me getting drowsy after sunset which is insanely healthy in so many ways.

>>8438978
>use programs to remove the blue tint after sun set. This results in me getting drowsy after sunset
This is interesting, care to expand?

>>8438966
I love to spend time outside but the weather is going to be shit where I live all weekend. I'm just so used to being nice and liquored up while I watch movies or listen to music, I feel like a fucking robot right now. Oh well, I guess I will just watch anime half heartedly and fuck my wife until Monday comes and it's time for work again.

>>8438984
I assume he means nightshift on iOS or flux on Mac OS, I imagine there are android and windows equivalents if you google those.

>>8437808
>>8438830

Former heroin addict here. Been clean for 3 years.

Smoking heroin wastes it and does nothing for you. I smoked heroin a few times and it just made me want to shoot it.

Also, you fucking retards, don't tell an alcoholic to go and do heroin. It doesn't make anything better.

>>8437686
And OP, go get some help for God sake.

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>>8437686
>intended to taper off after the new year
>still drink like a bottle of wine every night
I mean I've been in much worse binds, it could always be worse, but still.

>>8438962
That's because this is not a thread where you should be talking about weed.
I don't mean to be a complete asshole but everyone who is regularly in these threads has heard the weed talks before.

>>8438991
>>8438984

F.lux is on Windows too. Nice little free program.

>>8439006
Eh, could be a lot worse. Maybe give sobriety a go after this weekend. Just stay away from liquor, if I can give some unsolicited advice

>>8439022
Oh cool. My only windows machine is my htpc/gaming box so I've never looked into it. Really helpful little utility though.

>>8439002
>Smoking heroin wastes i
i'm not arguing about that
>don't tell an alcoholic to go and do heroin. It doesn't make anything better.
you may be right about those dudes doing street heroin, but i still believe that taking opioids of other forms can be better for you than being a hopeless drunk. but i'm no expert, feel free to correct me

>>8438978
One of the biggest impetuses for me to drink is when I cook. I would always have a few while preparing things and during cooktimes etc. I cook all the time too.
I do agree with you that cleaning can be somewhat of a good distraction though.

>>8439033
I am with you there. Cooking up a big multipart meal while knocking back a few is one of those great simple pleasures.

>>8439025
Yeah, I've been doing pretty well at keeping my actual liquor intake to a minimum. I used to go hard on that shit every day without a care in the world. 95% beer and wine now, but the hardest thing for me to do is stop altogether.

>>8439035
Agreed, what can you do, you know.

>>8439037
That's how I was too, I was tearing through 3-4 handles of liquor a week, stepped down to beer and wine, now I'm off the shit completely

>>8439055
What was the clincher for you?
I've done a few things like going to a detox once and an outpatient program, AA for a while, but I know at the end of the day it can only be me and me alone who changes anything. Nothing has really clicked for me yet to stay satisfied completely abstinent.

>>8439063
I was a big drinker for many years, life of the party type of guy. Honestly, I drank because otherwise I am usually a quiet, probably sullen person. Alcohol made me sociable and fun. I worried that I was over doing it, but when I would ask my wife if she thought I needed to knock it off she would tell me "you don't cause trouble, you take care of everything that you are supposed to and drinking makes you happy". This went on for years, naturally I drank more and more. Finally one day she said to me "I'm not telling you what to do, but I'm worried about you. I think you might need to dial it back". The one thing I did right in life is marry well, so no way am I fucking that up. Eased off of liquor on to beer and wine, then after New Year's Eve I quit that too.

>>8439031
Opiates are never a good alternative.

The human body becomes dependent on Opiates so fast. You better be careful with the pharmaceuticals. My heroin use started with oxy 80s and dilaudid.

MAYBE, and I say MAYBE Kratom can be used to help ease the pain, but you can become dependent on that too. And it tastes terrible. I wouldn't recommend it.

Opiate/heroin withdrawal is just awful. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy.

OP needs to get help.

>>8439082
well shit, i take kratom during the week so i only drink on the weekends thanks to that. kratom still fucks my sleep up because i lay in bed for hours in this dream like state without actually sleeping

>>8439082
I've been though a Xanax withdrawal before, been off the stuff for half a decade now. I just about lost my friggin mind going through it, I hear heroin is even worse. Do you ever get cravings or was the withdrawal so painful that you just said fuck it, never again cuz that's what happened in my case

>>8439082
Y'see, the trick is to not run out of opiates. If you can manage that you're gravy.

>>8439092
Yeah, Kratom can effect people differently depending on how long they've used it obviously, but it's not really my thing.

I mean, I shouldn't be promoting drugs lol, but if you want to use something, use gabapentin lol.

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>used to grab a beer or two or all the way to 6 AM after school with a friend
>the whole country has a lax attitude towards alcohol
>philipino guy joins the group
>couple of beers after school
>he gets really drunk
>so drunk he spend half a day thinking he was in russia when we got off the train and told him we had taken the train to russia
>it was a 25 min ride
>it's a minimum 2-3 days to russia by train
>he starts drinking more often than we do
>starts showing up drunk at school
>has to start over three times
>we try to tell him
>he doesn't believe us when he's sober
>he doesn't remember when we tell him while he's drunk
>constantly close to getting kicked out
>eventually he gets kicked out
>eventually lose contact after i finish school

I have never seen anything like it, turns out that on top of being a massive light weight, he also had some anxiety problems, so it took him down hard. Still feel like a massive piece of shit over it. Gonna be really fucking careful about who I introduce to alcohol from now on. At least last I heard he seemed to be recovering, but I haven't been in touch with any of them for a year or so.

>>8439101
Yeah, I can't tell if you're actually being serious when you say that lol. I'm gonna take a guess and say you're joking lol.

>>8439106
Who pulled the pacifier out of your ass?

Being addicted to alcohol is the most pathetic thing on this planet. Pick a real drug like heroin or meth. You'll never get respect in rehab or prison if you're a fuckin alcoholic

>>8439114
>waaaahah
>waaaahahaaaah
>i drink
>waaaaaahahh
>woe is me

>>8439097
I get cravings sometimes, usually when I'm stressed, not so much though. But yes, I have been traumatized in a way because heroin withdrawal is just fucking awful.

Imagine have the flu, but it's a million times worse. Imagine not being able to sleep for days, and having restless legs all night. Having zero energy and everyone can see it in your face how sick you look. It was seriously a living nightmare. And my doctor refused to put me on soboxone or methadone.

But props to you for getting off xanax. The withdrawal must of been so shitty. And you can die from withdrawal, just like with heroin withdrawal.

>>8439127
I'm sorry, I meant you can die from withdrawal from xanax, just like with alcohol. You can't die from heroin withdrawal.

>>8439097
Sorry i made a typo, you CAN'T die from heroin withdrawal, I meant you can die from withdrawing from xanax like you can die from alcohol withdrawal.

>>8439131
>>8439135

Incorrect.

>>8439147
What am I incorrect about?

>>8439186
What you just posted
>>8439131
and
>>8439135

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Is actually cutting back just a meme? I'm drinking about every other night right now, which is solid progress for me. HARSH reminder around Christmas that I dropped hard alcohol for beer & wine for a good damn reason.

Anyone else manage to keep a low profile with drinking around family? I swear I have never gotten over a hangover so fast. I genuinely don't believe they clocked me, and they have before.

Back to three-buck chuck for now. Drinking the one bottle with some vidya before going to bed, rather than going out.

>>8439199
You can die from alcohol withdrawal and benzo withdrawal. You can't die from heroin withdrawal. Those are facts.

I know you're wrong.

>>8439230
>You can't die from heroin withdrawal.
Incorrect, kid.

I suggest you perform a simple google search and educate yourself before you spout your nonsense in future.

>>8439233
Sweetheart, I'm not spouting nonsense.

I don't need to look it up on Google. I've been educated from rehab and multiple doctors. Maybe you can die from heroin withdrawal, but it's not as likely. You're more likely to OD.

Maybe you should get yourself educated.

>>8439237
So we agree you can die from heroin withdrawal and your previous 2 posts were wrong.

Good, I'm glad that's settled.

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>>8439233
>>8439237
Mom, dad: stop fighting. You're ruining Christmas again

>>8439243
No I don't agree with you. Stop being delusional.

Just because I said maybe, doesn't mean I'm agreeing with you.

It's sad you'll believe every little fact you see on the Internet.

I'm sure you've never been to rehab for heroin, and I'm not saying it like I'm proud. But I know for damn well sure I was educated properly.

>>8439244
Christmas was already ruined, Jimmy.

>>8439249
You are showing exactly how uneducated you are in this thread.

Everyone else can see this themselves by performing a simple google search.

>>8439258
Wow, you totally missed my point.

I feel dumb just talking to you.

>>8439267
You were wrong, plain and simple, kid.

Perhaps you should put down the bottle and get your ass to bed.

>>8439271
You think that's funny saying that to someone who's been sober for 3 years?

You need to watch what you say, "kid."

And no, I'm not wrong. You need to watch what you say though. You're going to get your ass beat one day.

>>8439230
Why spout such nonsense? If you're stupid enough to say that then you have to be an addict in denial. Either that or have some kind of political position that tries to justify not getting indigent addicts help.

>>8439279
Shut the fuck up.

You were wrong now fuck off.

6th day sober. Sobriety is so fucking boring.

Wow, this thread went to shit quickly. Great work guys, that little dick waving contest was totally worth derailing the thread.

>>8439310
agreed, back to topic I drink like a 12 pack a day, I want to stop it's made me gain a ton of weight and it's probably doing some legitimate damage to my body. My question is would I go through withdrawals if I were to abruptly stop or would I need to kind of taper down to once every other day?

I've been sober for exactly two weeks now and I'm honestly thinking about just fucking necking myself. I stopped drinking because it makes me impulsive and dangerous, but I'm not even sure I can be fucked living in a world where I can't drink. can't do benzos, can't fucking smoke. Everything is garbage.

>>8439335
Just end it all, you dullard.

>>8437686
I'm not sure if I'm an alcoholic but I fear I may be heading down that path.
My mother is an alcoholic and I still live at home so we drink together all the time. She's much worse that I am though. Friday - Sunday she will drink about 2 liters of cask wine a night, plus about 5 or 6 shots of vodka or whiskey that she shares with my father. Monday - Thursday she will drink in secret, she thinks that no one has noticed but I've seen her secret stash and it's terrifying...I'm worried I'm going to turn out exactly like her.

Holy fuck. I feel bad for just having a beer every night.

You people have problems

>>8439397
>1 beer
>a night
Might as well have a glass of water.

>/alc/ thread

>not one guy has considered getting his shit together

everytime

>>8439325
just quit cold turkey and deal with it. if you relapse check yourself into rehap. This is serious

>>8439335
get a hobby, my uncle runs. He just fucking runs for hours a day, and he's been sober for half a decade.

>>8438868
You'll gain it back. Then you'll loose actual weight, slowly.
Don't give up when you see your weight going up, it's just your body returning to regular mode.

>>8438978
f.lux on windows, twilight on android.
There are many other on phone, I haven't tested them all but this one is pretty great and functional. I paid a few bucks, I remember the free version being OK but I'm not sure what the restrictions were.
f.lux lacks the possibility to set time of sun rise/set beside fiddling around with GPS coordinates, it's kind of a pain in the arse but I never found better.

I read that next windows 10 update will have blue light fading natively. (Update may have been published, I don't have 10.)

>>8439031
Mixing opiates and alcohol can be deadly. So alckies should tapper to sobriety first.
Kinda defeat the purpose.

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>>8439222
I see that neither I nor my trips are welcome in this al/ck/ either :(

>>8439447
welp, at least you can take a hint

>>8439344
What kind of stupid faggot comes into an alcoholic thread and whines about people being dependent on alcohol lmao
>>8439430
I have plenty of hobbies already

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>>8439423
Did you just not read the posts by all the people that have quit or are trying to quit? Why bother posting a negative thing like that if you can be arsed to even read the thread?

>>8439325
I doubt you'll go through withdrawl on 12 pack a day.

>>8439397
That's actually good for you, dipshit.

Is this the gayest general on all of 4chan?

>>8439789
Seems pretty bent, I thought people would be talking about cheap ways to get leathered with the odd feel thrown in but everyone's just bitching at eachother like a bunch of fags

>Post College
>Stay in city working for a big business
>After every shift I'd go drinking with roommates
>If we weren't drinking liquor i'd have at least 3+ Beers before going to bed
>Had a couple bouts of drunk driving which started to worry me
>Go back home
>Stop drinking for several months
>Now I'm content with just one beer and feel a nice buzz

Is there a term for this? I mean I really like it. I just finished my beer and i have no urge for a second one.

>>8439423
Honestly, why are you in this thread then? Some people in here hear stories that do change their relationship to alcohol and drugs. Some people struggle with dealing with a hell on earth that obviously no politician or reality show pitchman will change. Some drink; some have pharma-medico boi prescribe something; some head down to 10th street and get a bag of heroine from Tyrone.

So what's your gig? /Fit/fag or /pol/tard for the day? Just fuck off.

>>8439325
Probably will be a bit unpleasant but no major risks.

Can tolerance for alcohol be lowered by abstinence for a period of time?

>>8439800
Some folk just drink because they started drinking and then created the hell unto themselves. Not every alkie is gonna be some divorced orphan with cancer and a mum with AIDS. People in worse situations than just a material addiction can get their shit together but no one here even tries or tries so they can bitch about how much they are dependent on it and get back at it.

>>8439820
Ye, give it a month and you'll feel how little it takes.

>>8439820
Yea, your body isn't going to maintain high levels of alcohol dehydrogenase enzymes for no reason. As someone who get shitfaced off of like 3 beers sometimes before a holiday party I try to drink everyday before the party to increase my tolerance.

I like reading these threads, weird fascination. It makes sense not drinking is boring for alcoholics, it is your hobby.

>>8439116
>tfw you're an alcohol but don't have to go to prison because you don't drink and drive or do other illegal drugs
Have fun in the pen you spic beaner nigger fucking slav shit jewass treenigger

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>>8439798
the term is normie

>>8439080
Yeah I probably could have expected that. Your wife sounds really understanding and nice. I don't think I'm ever going to be like you because I've never even had a girlfriend and I'm 27.

>>8439147
You can't die from heroin withdrawal. I've never done it and I know that.

>>8439798
The term is normie normalberg faggot.

>>8439859
Incorrect.

Go back to bed.

>>8439835
You're the kind of person who really likes to think they know what they're talking about.

>>8439882
Raw nerve?

>>8439875
>>8439859

It's pretty well known that opiate and opioid withdrawals are not considered to be life threatening. Uncomfortable, sure, but you aren't going to die just because you have high blood pressure/nausea/hot flashes.

Withdrawal from GABA-based drug like Alcohol and Benzodiazepines has the potential to cause seizures.

In fact, antagonist GABA drugs themselves are convulsants. The only reason they exist is to pull people out of a super deep GABA high

>>8439930
Incorrect.

Opiate withdrawal can cause seizures. Read up on it.

>>8439941
How does it feel to know that everyone knows you're a dumb piece of shit?

Opiate withdrawal can cause death but its unlikely.

There was a video on youtube of this guy from England who self documented his life as a heroin addict and when he finally went to rehab he died on his 2nd night due to a massive brain hemmorage from going cold turkey. was really sad. He was a life long addict tho and death from opiate withdrawal is extremely unlikely, though is still possible

>>8439906
Not who you're responding to, but you, sir, are a complete ass. Go to an AA meeting if you possess even a shred of empathy (which I seriously doubt) and observe with an open mind the people there. Then think to yourself, " how did they get here?" Because of the kind of conversations and stories they see in places like this. Now fuck off back to your fucking hole and try to find better prey.

>>8437686
Please get help..... Ive been a drug addict since 94 and now been sober 8 mths,,,,, alcohol too. Get help, I fucked up my life, and don't want to anymore, so I got help,,,,, finally

>>8439296
not the other guy but you really have some sort of personality issues that you need to get help with. don't start drinking/doing drugs to escape.

>>8440042
THIS

+9001 internet cookies to you my good sir, my brave sir, true gentleman and scholar, you certainly deserved it

I'm getting to the point where room temperature liquor doesn't burn my throat or mouth anymore, is this normal? am I going to become like you sorry losers soon?

I mean I don't drink everyday so probably not

>>8439845
shit, that caught me off guard. my sides

>>8440681
Let me guess, you're also starting to notice girls and there's hair in places there wasn't hair before?

>>8439980
>rude asshole refuses to educate his ignorant ass

Surprise, surprise!

https://youtu.be/Ya4ww-l9XNc
Get over the discomfort, push through the urges and the cravings, and you will come out the other end a better and more happy version of yourself. Being an alcoholic is like playing life on hard mode.

>>8439116
You what m8?

Most of the people i was in detox with were drunks

The tweekers are the losers. At least i work to fund my addiction

>>8441292
You are all losers m8.

>>8441304
And yet we're both here on 4chan in an addict thread

Yeah, you're a winner.

>>8441225
>Not wanting a challenge
Pussy

>>8441308
Yes, compared to you I probably am a winner.

>>8441312

Did mommy catch you with a 6 pack and send you here?

>>8439103
Some asians lack an enzyme in their liver so they can hardly metabolize alcohol.

>>8441312
>comparing yourself to others on 4chan

yes, you win the retard olympics. Good job.

>>8441317
>>8441331
Yes, I am considerably better than you.

>>8441331

Thanks m8. This moron doesnt get it.

Have a good 24

8 days sober, quit before new years because I didn't want it to be a resolution. The week was fine actually and yesterday I stayed with family which made it easy.

Saturday nights are killer, I just keep thinking I'd just get some beer, nothing strong, just to relax me. So bored, jerked off twice, house is perfectly clean, already had a relaxing bath and cooked a Mediterranean lamb dish.

Shit it's only 5.30pm.

>>8441502
Binge watch some good tv series.

>>8441502
>Shit it's only 5.30pm.
This is what fucking gets me every time
I have no problem avoiding drink during the day but by 6pm I've completely run out of shit to do. Apartment is spotless, bathed, read a few chapters, caught up on all my subscriptions, shitposted for awhile, played a game, practiced french/german/esperanto
"Boy it must be getting late, I should get ready for bed"
"oh it's only 6pm"
And then I break out the liquor

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>>8441505
I don't normally watch TV programs but pirating pic related as we speak.
>>8441508
Are you me? Exact same thing happens to me. I used to drink everyday but after a lot of effort and improving my diet I find I can manage most of the time. But now I can handle weekdays except Friday well, not getting home until 6pm, having to make dinner, chores and stuff then play a game and it's 9pm and I'm getting tired because I've been working all day.

>>8441538
>pic related
looks neat, what's that?

>>8441553
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_(TV_series)

It's a Japanese program from the 80s, it used to be on British TV late at night when I was a kid. It was very poorly dubbed, it's just so cheesy and comical but the characters are just so lovable it's one of the few TV programs I like. Haven't seen it in 5 years though.


The intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zOFAD6e9Bk

Guys I'm not an alckie but I'm having existential crisis.

What do I do?

>>8439796
It used to be better, recently (since summer basically) a few crossposters come just to shit up the threads. No feels from me, just a lot of dark shit. Used to post my story as a "don't go down the rabbit hole like I did" warning to guys asking "how do get good at handling alcohol? H8 getting destroyed with 3 beers a night". I just lurk now in case a good discussion/anon wants advice occurs within Mt. Shit.

>>8441657
Like I said, BENT!

>Left my job for a much better one
>Better pay, hours, shorter commute, matching 401k and a union pension
>Work for 3 months
>Got called Thursday, layoffs
>Myself and the 3 other guys with the lowest seniority got let go

Trying real hard not to go full 2 week bender here.

>>8441657
>>8441674
there are still some good horror stories

a lot of us come just to stay sober so those horror stories are in demand

>>8441829
Just go for it.

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>go on huge bender from xmas until a couple of days ago
>manage to alienate almost everyone I know, again
>feel like I'm going to die afterwards
>physical effects finally ease off and just left with the depression
>already sitting here wanting to get drunk again to take the edge off

goddammit

>>8437686

Go and get help instead of posting this shit on here.

You need some hard words. You are going to fucking die in an incredibly painful way.

If you actually want to kill yourself, eat a bullet.

You don't want to die by the portal vein for your liver getting covered in scar tissue and bursting.

You will literally start projectile vomiting and shitting blood and then you'll die in a hospital if you're lucky enough to be found before you slowly bleed out.

At the very least switch to beer for the time being.

>>8438868

I know that feel, I can't believe how much I piss if I stop drinking it's like two liters more than normal every day

>>8441869
All the people in this thread are just whiny faggots looking for attention.

I wouldn't worry about them.

>>8441894

>I thought the alcoholic thread would be cheerful

>>8441894
Yeah, I suppose.
Most of them seem to young and stupid to be actual alcoholics.

>>8441922

You must have grown up somewhere incredibly nice to think there's some kind of minimum age limit.

>>8441933
Pipe down, kid. The grown-ups are talking now.

>>8441950

Rude.

>>8437686
Had a good run to end 2016, was sober since New Years, then randomly last night I got drunk alone. I'm not going to beat myself up over it though, jumping right back on and learning from my mistakes. That shit is poison and it makes me sick. It's not even enjoyable anymore. I do not enjoy alcohol.

What's the tastiest pleb red wine to drink by the bottle?

>>8441950
How do people type shit out like this and not realize what insufferable faggots they come of as. Calling someone "kid" on 4chan is like a giant neon "I'm a fucking moron who can't form a coherent argument" sign.

>>8442355
Kid. I said pipe down.

>>8442355
Heh. Nice digits, kid. But next time, try to come up with a good post to go along with them.

*teleports away*

Why can white kids not handle their goddamn booze these days?

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Honestly guys, you should just smoke weed. It's all natural, makes you feel good, no hangover and you can't overdose on it. Put down the bottle and pick up the bong.

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>>8439116
I'm sorry your father was an alcoholic, anon.

>>8439434
*lose

>>8442413
and lose your memory cells

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>>8439820
If you're an actual alcoholic, your disease progresses even while not drinking. Longtime sober people that go back to drinking often find that they will drink even more than they did when they quit. I don't quite understand how it works, but there's a lot of stuff about it in the big book.

I was a fifth a night drinker for about the last ten years, but I've recently started buying two or three airline minis with the fifth (I have two days sober after a 4-day bender right now).

In my experience and that of a lot of alcoholics I know (in and out of recovery), your tolerance keeps keeps getting higher. Guys on their way out will just continually drink all damn day. Watch Leaving Las Vegas or the recent documentary Risky Drinking.

>>8442413
And go to jail, and smell up your house or annoy your neighbors, and turn into a slow unsociable retard.

>>8442487
>>8442495
>turn into a slow unsociable retard
>and lose your memory cells

Like drinking then.

>>8442492
In my experience, true. Starting out a pint of liquor will really get you trashed. But after awhile, the kick just isn't there and no one even notices I've been drinking. So keep adding a few shots here and there and suddenly I'm nearing a fifth a day. It's like any addiction - opiates, gambling, sex, whatever. You have to have more as time goes by to keep the same level of pleasure cell activation.

The one thing I've seen in late stagers, however, is a diminishing tolerance because the liver can no longer properly filter it out.

>>8441225
Is this clickbait worth giving it a view?

>>8441641
Become an alcoholic so we can help you. Or ask >>>/adv/

I'm buzzin like a muslin right now, drank about 3/4 of a water bottle of the cheapest vodka you can get. I will quit drinking after I finish this handle for awhile. folks.

Well /alc/ I was doin real good about drinking because my gf said she was gonna leave me if I don't get it under control. Last night I went and got drunk and she found out. I know she's fed up with me and I don't even know what to say anymore I have no excuses left. She'll probably break up with me tonight and I don't want that even a little bit. I'm a real piece and I know that, but I'm freaking out, and have been all day. I will lose the only person who's kept me together and I don't know what to do, peace losers.

day 7 sober since new years. still goin strong. first weekend, bored as fuck but just forced myself to lift weights and watch tv while on my treadmill.

got some pulled pork for dinner, and diet pepsi to drink instead of booze. life could be worse.

>>8442413

weed is the reason I became an alcoholic then opiate addict. after blazing daily for years and it just not doing much for me anymore, instead of quitting like I should have i just added in booze. then the same thing happened after years of daily drinking and smoking, wasnt enough, added the opiates.

also weed might not be physyically addictive but in my experience, needing any kind of drug to get through the day is still fucking with your pleasure/reward part of the brain. you still need an outside source to be content, which isn't the way to go.

>>8439941
0/10

>>8443065
right on, friend

who else /sobersincenewyears/

>tfw just turned 20, never had a drop of alcohol in my life, vowed never tooto touch the shit because parent is a disgusting drunkard
>tempted to go down the path anyway because my life is so fucking miserable and alcohol seems to keep miserable people sated in some way

What do you guys think? Should I do it?

>>8444098
No.

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Is drinking beer out of a wine glass considered autistic behavior?

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>>8442157
>>8439002
>>8440194
>>8441869

OP here thanks guys, started whiskey again because I saw my ex at a new years party, still cant get her out of my head, cant sleep either, unless I'm shitfaced.

Going to the doc tomorrow, and will ask him for something strong I guess

>>8444107
Sure. Besides, why not drink it out of appropriate beer glasses?

not an alky but drunk af. is admiral rum hella bad because i slammed like half a bottle and now i feel like warm but also like puking. /alck/, how do you handle this? should i puke?

I came here because I figured it's faster than /hooch/, but this is all just sad-fagging, fuck all of you, desu

>>8444372
if it's evening in your timezone (aussie I guess?) you should puke now, because otherwise you're gonna wake up in puken sheets, though again maybe yu're different, it depends

>>8444379
nope, i'm american. my roommate threw a party and i chugged half the bottle because someone told me that they'd pay me 30 bucks. i don't drink much at all and i'm like...135 lbs and 5'11"?

should i puek? my roonmate wants to drinkmore, i kinda wnat to drinkmore,

>>8443032
I never even had a gf so eat a dick faggot

>>8444390
maybe you should just drink more, these kind of things come with first hand experience, once you had the ultra-horrible hangovers a couple of times you'll probably pace yourself

>>8444390
oh and also you should lift

>>8444400
i'm lifting as a newyears thing. for realtho thanks. we;re goingout to abar now, shouldbe nice,

>>8444403
yeah enjoy yourself m8

>>8444403
> lifting as a newyears thing
this is why gyms are not frequentable until mid-February

>>8443202
He's right though.

ps. I am a qualified doctor.

>>8443032
Pathetic.

>>8441508
>>8441538

This is what gets me every time too. I'll wake up feeling good and ready to tackle the day. I'll get all my shit taken care of and then the evening rolls around. I have fuck all to do except kill time until the next comes about.

>>8442495
>And go to jail
i'm sorry that you're in a shithole country where you get locked up for such trivial shit. do you also go to prison for crossing the road when you're not at a pedestrian crossing?

>>8444705
>Wargghhbnnn hurrrrrr dorffffgnn hrrlrllllllluuugnnn
I'm a guy who likes to come into threads that don't have anything to do with me to insult people.
That guy was being a bit normie desu though.

I think it's safe to say that al/ck/s time has come and passed.

>>8444909
Seems that way.

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I am not an alcoholic by any means but I definitely do have a problem controlling myself.

With that said, I think I want to try and "get into" whiskey. I got pic related, gonna try sipping it tonight and do the usual bullshit of adding drops of water until it supposedly tastes good. We'll see how it goes.

>>8444926
Please don't add water to that. It's perfectly fine straight.

>>8444946
Yeah, I'll try it straight first although I am pretty skeptical. I have a feeling all of it is just going to taste like hand sanitizer

>>8444926
>I am not an alcoholic by any means but I definitely do have a problem controlling myself.
So, you're an alcoholic in denial

>>8444926
>sipping

>>8444909
I don't understand why normies think they have to poke their noses into every single thing they see.

>>8444958
No whiskey tastes like sanitizer. Really bad vodka can though.

>>8445058
This is a thread for normies, by normies.

>>8444960
No, I have had a substance abuse problem in the past and I drink fairly frequently but nothing like what the fuckers in these threads are doing.

I don't drink. Not because I'm worried about my brain cells, or I'm afraid of losing control, or anything like that. I don't drink simply because alcohol tastes fucking disgusting. I don't know how people drink that shit.

>>8445073
Some like it, others get used to it, others still just chase.

>>8445065
>I'm not an alcoholic, that guy is.
Denial is an important step on the road to alcoholism. It's still in the happy part of the trip, so please enjoy yourself for us who can't.

>>8438984
>>8438991
Flux for Windows and Mac. Twilight (yes, really) for Android. No idea about iOS.

>>8445073

most drugs taste disgusting, the effects make that a minor inconvenience, newfag

>>8445665
>most drugs taste disgusting
wait, what? why would you talk about taste with things that you shoot/ smoke/ toss and wash/ swallow? sure, the last two may touch your tongue for a split second, but who cares?

>>8445653
Its baked in to iOS.

>>8439116
a question I wake up to in the morning and pass out with at night: what's my popularity with the people in rehab/prison?

>>8445857
You'll be dead from cirrhosis of the liver by 35.

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>tfw first weekend in months without booze
well that was fucking boring, I need another hobby

>>8445868
It's not

>>8445868
You'll maybe make 40 if you work out/eat well

>>8445887
I would say you should take your own advice but you already are. Better get some life insurance soon, drunky.

>>8445897
You were mistaken.

No-one on /ck/ is an alcoholic.

There are a few attention seekers who claim to be, but they are just meme-ing.

I actually have 3 milk jugs brewing at any given time to make up for the fact that some days I just cannot get alcohol. Holidays, dry sundays, etc. So now i'm actually drinking one of the jugs, because I'm broke as shit.

all i used was a pack of bread yeast, some sugar and 2 slices of bread and im hammered ahaha

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>>8445931

>>8445931
Go through the steps?

>>8445963
>add sugar to water and mix
>rip apart 2 bread slices and toss in, or soak them in water and use the water
>add packet of yeast (fleishmanns instant rapid-rise yeast) and shake
>????
>profit

i drank the last of my vodka. its cold now and the heater is going. i expect the waking up at 6am with existential horror and seeing shit painted in blood on the walls will kick in in about 12 hours. take care lads.

>>8445060
>>8444926
>>8444963
>>8444946

Alright guys, I started sipping my eagle rare. This shit is way too strong for me. Maybe I am just being a pussy but the flavor is just overwhelmingly sweet and woody. That is ignoring the tongue numbing harshness of the alcohol.

yo what does gin mix well with?

>>8446372

I like it with cranberry juice and a lime wedge. Sometimes grapefruit too.

>>8446372
tonic water and self hate

Drinking beer for the third night in a row. It's almost boring but to not be drinking is even more boring. Why does my life have to be filled with boring shit like having to fix my car or working a tedious job.

>>8446372
Depression and dry vermouth. With a lemon twist. You salt it with your tears, not an olive. Dash of orange bitters, if you've got any.

>>8445686
Smoking is a lot about taste. Take cigars and different brands of cigarettes.

>>8445857
I started with two beers per day too. Some time later I was drinking a litre of vodka daily.
It depends on the path you take in the future, but I'd try spending a month dry every year I were you.

>>8446131
Dude, you OK? Don't quit cold turkey

>drive to liquor store
>closed
>30 minutes before they should be closed
>look at phone to be sure
>it's sunday
fucking hell

>>8439335
How about you find something worthwhile to do in your life that isnt a substance you fuckhead. Drugs are great and so is alcohol, but they arent the end all be all of living. Get a hobby or anything you enjoy doing sober (playing an instrument, having friends, reading etc) then play with substances. Shit dont kill yourself over not being able to drink you fucking bitch

>>8443032
Try to place yourself 1 week ahead of right now. She breaks up with you, you keep drinking and still feel like a poor piece of crap. Now you are alone, drunk and still depressed. If she means that much to you, does this imagery help you make your decision or not?

>>8437686
what alcohol should i buy if i just want to get drunk cheaply?

>quit drinking two days ago
>could barely fall asleep yesterday
>can't sleep tonight
>tfw have work in 4 hours

what do?

>>8447859
just keep trying, better than staring at a bright screen at least

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>>8447859

Bit late now but you gotta go for a walk or a run man. Gotta exercise holmes.

>>8447859

I drink a lot of sleepy tea on my nights off. Also exercise helps.

>>8447839
lager or bourbon

>>8446372
mix it with cider, I'm serious

>>8446400
lel

Was doing okay at the start of last semester but I went right back to fifth-a-day by the time finals arrived, then spent basically all of the break in perpetual "wake up, drink, puke, drink more" cycles

Went to bed with only 3 beers last night though, and am hopped back up on adderall. Hopefully I can do better this semester.

>>8448489
just remember you're not alone bro

>>>/r9k/
>>>/soc/
>>>/r/eddit/
>/lgbt/
>>>/adv/

Why are threads like this allowed hear exactly?

Day 9 sober. I excersize like crazy which helps but i still cant get a restful night sleep. Do I need to read more or something? I looked up how to get a restful sleep and it says you need to excersize both your body and your mind. I generally just browse the internet the entire day and dont really use any brainpower throughout the day whatsoever. I did notice one night I decided to read a few hours that I actually slept a bit better. is this a meme? anyone have trouble sleeping able to sort it out? cheers to my /sobersincenewyears/ crew

>>8449140
actually using your brain does burn a lot of energy. ask any college student during midterms or whatever, you're actually tired after learning a few hours a day. of course, just dicking around on some himalayan bongo carving forum isn't really a tasking activity so that doesn't count, obviously

>>8447623
When I was really bad into it a year ago I'd drive to the liquor store and just stroll right up to the door like nothing was wrong, wouldn't even realize it was closed because it was Sunday until I got to the door. Sucks.

In the office alone all week and it's slow. This is definitely going to turn into an extension of my weekend bender. Already bought a 30 pack. Fuck.

>want to quit drinking again
>don't want to go to meetings every damn day

Anyone else know that feels? I'm 24, and honestly enjoyed going to AA for the most part. I just don't wanna be told to go every day.

Although had a bit of a bender this week. Had the worst case of the fear I've ever had. Had to drive home in the dark hungover as Fuck, shaking, anxious, paranoid and nearly hallucinating.

I hate alcohol.

>>8449257
I went to AA 3 times a week for six weeks last year. I'm 27. I was in no legal trouble at all, I was just on a program because I decided to go to a detox. The whole experience was good, but I just got sick of going. iktf
Drank like 7 or 8 beers last night and pissed in a water bottle in my room unironically and sincerely.

>>8449288
>pissed in a water bottle in my room unironically and sincerely.

Alcohol's biggest sinners escalate to peeing on the front lawn in the middle of the night with a cigarette in hand. The other day I was totally sober and had the thought that I should piss in the parking lot real quick.

>>8449305
When I was going to college, I would literally go out in the backyard at night to piss with a cigarette in my hand. Probably happened almost every night back then. At least I got my degree I'm not using.

>>8449288
I went damn near every day for almost 3 months. It wasn't that pink cloud that people talk about but I was making steps to be a productive person. Now I'm just a drain on my girlfriend emotionally.

She likes to drink but she doesn't understand what it's like to wake up after a bender and NEED a drink to feel right.

I drive a standard and she doesn't know how to drive one so I had to drive it for 2 hours while essentially detoxing in constant terror. She's never seen me like that before and I think I really scared her.

>>8449305
My grandpa was a beer alcoholic who started drinking cans of cheap beer from as soon as he woke up until he went to bed or passed out on the porch swing. He even drove around drinking beer in the truck like it was nothing. I remember going on trips with him and when he needed to piss he wouldn't even pull into a gas station, he'd pull the car over and piss right there on the side of the freeway in front of other cars.

I'm staying sober for a few days to give my organs a break. How long until what I can only assume is my liver stops feeling so sore?

>>8449347
I can't even visualize having a gf anymore dude, I'm 27 and I've never had one. It really sucks though when you're detoxing around someone who just can't understand though. I have a best friend and other friends who get it (non alcs except for the one), my mother gets it even though she's not an alky. Having to explain shit to my dad (non alc) though, holy shit. He actually went to this meeting with my mom of the families of fuck ups like me after I got out of detox, and now he finally is starting to understand, but not really. I stay out of his way pretty much as often as I can.

>>8449378
Yeah. In college, as long as I had several drinks in me, I pretty much just pissed wherever I wanted, wherever I happened to be if there wasn't a bathroom nearby.

>>8449382
Well if it truly was your liver, you'd probably feel it in your back/side on the upper right side of your torso I gather, because that's where it's around.

>>8449400
>He actually went to this meeting with my mom of the families of fuck ups like me after I got out of detox

Your poor, poor father.

Do you feel no shame, kid?

It's time you grew up and started taking some responsibility.

>>8449406
It is what it is dude. My parents don't hate me. Besides he only went once.

>>8449415
Sort yourself out and give your parents a break.

>>8449420
>sort yourself out kid
I already know I'm going to be alone for the vast majority of my life. The only difference in my life is going to be money, just to blow on shit that doesn't matter. I don't want anything material. I've worked wagecuck jobs at almost minimum wage. Ive been all over the country, I've traveled internationally, I've seen the shit I wanted to see, I have good friends. I got a degree in a dying industry that I don't really have interest in.
Life is just the same thing over and over most of the time anyway, just with a different backdrop or in a different shade or something.
I don't drink nearly as much as I was last year, and almost only beer and wine now, and at night only.

>>8449405
Yeah, upper right side. Not stabbing pain, just a dull soreness. Probably pretty fucking bad.

>>8449580
Sounds like gas
you'll be fine, kid.

>>8449305
Nigga I do that shit sober

>>8449133
There are no alcoholics on these boards.
>Why are threads like this allowed hear exactly?
Tradition, and the fact that there are a lot of substance abusers amongst cooks. Please click "hide thread" at the top of the page, it will make it all go away like it was only a bad dream.

>>8449382
Could have been the pancreas, although the term wouldn't be "sore" but "debilitating pain" for both pancreatitis and liver damage.
All the digestive system is fucked by booze, you should see a doc after a week or two if soreness goes on. >>8449610 and don't hold your farts.

I'm trying to run away from some stress. I've have three beers(Blue Moon) so far in the last hour, with no food. I'm buzzed, my heart rate is still up, but I sobering up too fast.

How can I make a buzz last longer? Is there anything stronger that won't fuck me up?

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>>8437686
ITT WE SUMMON MALLDRINKER

What's good boys? I've been lying about my drinking to my gf again, good times. Trying to dance around the empties is a fun game isn't it?

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Just picked up some Laphroaig. I debated back and forth for a few mins between this and the 10 year but ended up going with this. Very, very interesting taste. This is my first scotch and it tastes dramatically different from the bourbon i had last night

>>8450065
why are you posting your ugly mug on an anonymous image board you colossal attention seeking faggot

>>8449996

Here m8. Been drinking listerine the last couple days to get rid of the shakes

Its so thick and gross to puke up

>>8450150
why don't you drink regular alcohol?

>>8450167

Someone close to me took my money in the hopes that id stop

I wish i never drank on new years. I was doing so well

>>8450172
oh i've been there, but i was drinking vanilla extract
5 days sober for me, first 3 are hell but its slowly getting better. sleep is still fucked though, probably doesn't help i just sit on my ass all day on 4chan so i'm not tired at night. slept 11am-4pm today.

Starting to slur my words even when I'm sober. I think it's time to stop.

>>8449933
just take a shot ever 45 mins

>>8450097
that isn't me dumbass, that was the first pic i found when i googled for pics of the scotch

>mfw you are this insecure that you get offended when someone else posts their face

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What's everybody drinking for the game tonight?

Vodka Tonics for me so I won't smell too bad tomorrow.

>>8442413

I have GAD. Reefer would kill me.

>>8437686
I'm 21 and I want to start drinking but I don't know where to start. Any recs?

>>8450322
yes. don't

>>8450322
spiced rum and coke

>>8450337
just start with beer, then whiskey, then vodca

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>>8450350
>>8450322
WHOOOOOOPS

>>8450337
How come?

Why is it that only about 1/10 times I drink it actually makes me feel really good? How do I get it to make me feel good more often?

I'm feeling good right now. I hope you're all having a good one.

>>8447839
Depends on where you live. Do the math you lazy fuck.

>>8450350
What kind of beer?

>>8450378

probly means your not a full blown alchy yet.

I read alcohol is more pleasurable for alcoholics. I remmeber during the height of my alcoholism every day that first sip of hard liquor felt so amazing, almost as good as opiates. it sent actual pleasure waves through my whole body.

>>8450400
I have noticed that it feels better if I have drunk heavily the previous day.

>>8450386
go light to dark, so like a hefeweizen(tastes wheaty) or pilsner(like water) then to standard ales and then like IPAs if you still want more bitterness

>>8450410
Thanks.

>>8450410
>IPAs if you still want more bitterness
never had one before. how is the bitterness compared to, let's say, guinness?

>>8450400
>I read alcohol is more pleasurable for alcoholics. I remmeber during the height of my alcoholism every day that first sip of hard liquor felt so amazing, almost as good as opiates. it sent actual pleasure waves through my whole body.


Lol, you guys are fucked. Holy shit, what is wrong with you

>>8450425

You realize youre in an addict thread right

>>8450425

How fucking new are you? Thats extremely tame compared to some of the shit that comes up in these threads. Lurk more faggot

>>8450436
I am a drug addict and drink fairly frequently but even I can never see myself sinking that low

>>8450400
>that first sip of hard liquor felt so amazing
yes, because it stopped the withdrawl. that wasn't pleasure, it was just the absence of pain

>>8450418
I'm not super into stouts and haven't had a guinness in a long time so I can't give a good comparison, but I know IPAs are generally considered to be the one of the most bitter of beers.


Just get a Sierra Nevada or Lagunitas and try them out. Beer is cheap enough that you shouldn't worry about not liking it

>>8450455

No? I disagree with him desu. I never get drunk in the way that i want anymore. 20 shots a day and i feel normal and miserable.

>>8450456

nah, it was actual pleasure. im sure it was easing the withdrawal as well which also felt good, but there was a distinct physical pleasurable feeling, very similar to snorting painkillers, but not as intense. maybe different people are wired differently. i do have alcoholics on both sides of my family, so i dno.

>>8450150
Stay strong buddy. We're rooting for you.

>>8450418
Guinness is not fucking "bitter", and I wish normies would stop calling it this. And I'm not autisming about IPAs. I don't care for them. The flavor of Guinness is just literally *not* bitterness. Bitter does not mean "feels thick in my mouth".

>>8450639
did you, by any chance, forget to take your medicine?

>>8450653
I'm not drinking tonight, so it's not that I *forgot*.

>>8449133
why do you care? Just hide the thread my man

>>8450635

Thanks man. Time to give this another shot

>>8450770
Please do. Seriously man I was proud of you, you had some days under your belt, things seemed to be looking up. Please try again, I promise it will be worth it. It only gets better, I promise.

>>8450322
Don't. It's the worst drug. You will never get anything good from it

>>8450400
Naw man, I know you perceived it that way, but from a purely physiological perspective, it was only ever picking you up from the low that it created itself.

>>8450797
I think krokodil is the worst drug.

>>8450829
ok.

>>8450829
At least it kills you fast.

>>8437686
Why are alcoholics so goddamn pathetic?
And why are they mostly white males?
Is there a correlation between having a small penis and being a pathetic loser???

>>8439103
Nice pasta.

>>8452555
A FUCKING WHITE MALE

>>8452555
obsessed

>>8450360
Just don't even start. It's that easy.
The young people today have a totally different culture now anyway, they have bypassed a lot of old ways. In 10 more years, a lot of kids probably won't drink or smoke at all unless it's weed.

>>8437686

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPOcx59qmlw

>>8438830
>heroin is healthier than alcohol
fuck's sake.

>>8439116
at least i can go to work drunk and remain a productive member of society
thank god for public transportation

>>8452783

Hes actually right. Opiates don't do any actual damage to your bodies organs like alcohol does. Your body has receptors made to recieve opiates.

Heroin junkies look like shit because of the lifestyle of a junky, which involves not eating, not sleeping, spending all their money on drugs, stealing, etc

>>8452815
This.

There's also the issue of whatever additional bullshit the heroin may be "cut" with, the general risks associated with IV drug use (unavailability of clean needles, etc.), and so on.

>just got bloodwork done to find out how bad if any my liver is fucked
wew
shall find out in a few days

question, do you guys think you could switch to marijuana and leave alcohol behind as long as you had a steady supply of weed?

>>8453753
possibly but at the end of the day you're still addicted to a substance

>>8452815
well it does alot of damage to your actual receptors by frying them and it also does alot of damage by giving your body a higher requirement for the drugs that keep you from being depressed. so when you stop youre not used to being without them and you become suicidal

>>8453753
No. Unless I'm drunk, smoking weed just makes me extremely paranoid.

>tfw three weeks clean and just started drinking tonight
wish me luck lads

>>8454894
you just blew your luck anon