Rei Ayanami Thread #112

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>inb4 we get hit by another nuke

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>>2832749
Oh damn, thought you were banned, sorry if you had anything in particular in mind for 112.

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>>2832751
No worries, wasn't planning on making it anyways. Knowing this fucking mod it'll get nuked again.

Let this be a test to see if he's targeting specifically me or the threads in general.

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>>2832752
I mean the other threads are still up, hopefully this shit lately won't be an indicator of Rei threads will be treated from here on out.

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>>2832753
Funny thing is, 108 was also made by me and it's still up. 109 wasn't and it got archived due to autosage for obvious reasons. So there's a chance that the thread got purged because I was the OP, because the mod hates Rei threads in general or to curb the rampant shitposting. It could be any one really.

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>>2832756
The uncertainty's the worst part, I mean at least if they were just killing every Rei thread they saw we'd have a better case to make an appeal on IRC.

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>>2832758
A few weeks ago we would have had a case with them banning people for reporting Asucuck flood and Qshit spam. Now they're actually doing their job with that (although they aren't purging the shit that violates GR3) so we lost that ground.

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>>2832763
Yeah I mean look at the other guy ITT, he's been posting the same 3 low quality images of Q figs for weeks now, and his comments are just inane fucking nothing statements. But to the mods that's a quality contribution to the thread each and every time.

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>>2832766
Yeah, I'm pretty fucking sure shitting out the same 3 pics every single thread counts as flood/spam. But what will you do, the mods are retards who aren't even familiar with their own board rules.

And not to mention all the garbage from the last thread that wasn't deleted. Pretty sure 110 got pretty nasty too before getting pruned.

I miss the twilight age of Rei threads.

Even last year we had some comfy ones.

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>IP count: 4

Jesus fucking christ.

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I warned you the thread would get shoah'd. Why not just imagelimit the others first?

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>>2832880
Oh dear, seems like you were right.

But the only problem is that we don't know why the other thread got Hiroshima'd. If we knew the cause of that then maybe we could actively take steps towards avoiding it.

>>2832880
We might as well to be on the safe side, the only other thread even up at this point is >>2822306 , which is near the limit anyway.

I love you guys.

No matter the adversities we face; I love you.

>>2832897

I love you too, no matter what.

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>>2832897
>>2832900
Me three anons

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>>2832902
>>2832900
>>2832897

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>>2832905
>>2832897
>>2832900
>>2832902
>>2832905
I see the battlefield has hardened our morale.

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I am not convinced IMG_anon isn't making threads and deleting them to agitate against the mods.

Also you're welcome for me not bothering to max the old threads when I had the chance and then making new threads to push them off page 11.

Reply from previous thread:

>>2832246
>someone who HATES the rebuilds so much he denies their existence is SO familiar with every single scene

I don't think we can be sure the person I am responding to is a Rebuild Denier.

>>2832315
>it's entirely consistent with what you'd hear when inside

your head from a telepathic voice.

Seriously. You don't have to admit anything here. I understand peer pressure. But just for fun queue up Rei in Rebuild 3 asking "Shinji-kun where are you" at about the 29 minute mark and immediately after it play Obi Wan telling Luke to let go and trust his feelings during the trench run at the end of Star Wars.

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>>2832747
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
STOP WITH THE BOOGEYMEN AND LET ME BE COMFY YOU FUCKING AUTISTIC WASTES OF AIR.

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I got a new Reichan!

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>>2832963
Top cute!

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Beware, cancer fag is now reporting any images deemed POSSIBLE /e/ material. So no swimsuits, provocative clothes for you bastards anymore.
Thank your self proclaimed leader! He's a real winner.
Gosh, I hope her shoulders aren't too arousing for you faggots!

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>>2832963
More photos?

>>2832998
Rei's neck and shoulders are highly erotic.

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>>2833002

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>>2833007
kek

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>>2832963
Nice Rei you got here anon

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>>2832925
>Seriously.

You're evading the arguments made, again. If you have one of those funny sound cards or sound effects, try enabling some closed room scenarios with voice coming from the outside. It sounds like that.

Also consider the following, we have it very clear that there is a loudspeaker involved, as you yourself admit. Why would they switch to a loudspeaker if they could communicate telepathically?

If you were right about that, then wouldn't they just keep communicating telepathically? Regardless we're looking at introducing another thing here that is less likely and more difficult to explain. The reality of the situation has you at a disadvantage, this you must admit.

But it's besides the point anyway - the main issue that we must address is that whether or not it is a telepathic gesture or a loudspeaker, it doesn't make Rei Q the same character as Rei. You seem to forget that I consider things from both perspectives. So that in the case that it is indeed telepathy, which can be written in or stated outright in a sequel, the truth is that Rei Q would still in no way be Rei Ayanami.

Rei Ayanami isn't "telepathy" alone, and nor does the act of "holding of SDATs" make Rei who she is. Rei may very well communicate telepathically or pick up a SDAT, as she arguably did in previous films, but this is not what makes Rei, Rei.

Truth is, Rei Q is no more Rei than Re-Take's version of her is.

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>>2833148
I'm honestly not sure what arguments I haven't addressed. You've stated opinions I reject.

You say focused loudspeaker that reverbs and I say it is telepathy.

Rebuild 3 ends with Rei Q asking questions after previously only taking orders. As much as a mess as Rebuild 3 is, I don't think it is so awful that Anno decided to just not have Rei in it at all after making her the entire focus of the first two.

My argument is that when Anno has Shinji ask how a new track got on his music player and shows us the soul of Rei holding the music player and in the next film has Shinji drop the music player at the feet of the Rei that Shinji was doing all the lance stuff to change the world and make Rei back to the Rei he knew, Anno is telling us a story.

You are free to hate the story and say the story makes no sense and to reject the story from your personal headcanon. That doesn't change the real world.

In summary, I say Rebuild 3 + 1 = 4 while you insist there is no + or = and they are just some numbers. You say telepathy doesn't exist and who cares about the music player. I say Anno shows us situations that are not pointless or random.

The only new argument in this post:
>Why would they switch to a loudspeaker if they could communicate telepathically?

Where you believe Rei's Eva has a loudspeaker so advanced it finds Shinji and only Shinji even through walls and barriers and yet Rei is still asking "Where are you" it is my theory that when Rei doesn't know where Shinji is physically she finds him by a link created when his soul saved her soul and then after knowing where Shinji is and busting a hole in the ship she is then able to use a loudspeaker which Shinji is now able to hear when he wouldn't have heard it before a hole is made.

Why not continue telepathy? The standard trope is that speaking mind to mind requires concentration so once the original problem of not knowing where Shinji is has been solved, why not go back to the easier common form?

>>2832747
>Feel free to request any image or theme!
Requesting images showing her midriff, or focusing on her belly & navel, please.

I can't take it anymore. Rei was forced to suffer in the Anime, Manga, and now soon to be Rebuild. She'll never be happy. They'll never let her be happy.

This makes me want to kill myself.

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Rei is Rei

>>2833453
>>2833454
>>2833455
Oh boy i wonder if the mod is actually behind this.

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>>2833370
Make your own story where Rei is happy. Don't let Anno ruin her for you.

>>2833456
He originally posted them right after the thread was made but they've been deleted, so the mods seem to finally accept that it's spam and banned him, judging by how the reposts are under a new IP he's evading, hopefully the mods range ban him next.

>>2833370
Gos 2rn
Angelical (it was angelical? Or maybe angelic?) Days

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Anno must be reading these threads "Those kind of people don’t understand, no matter what you say. I finally realized there’s nothing you can do."

>>2832634
Let's think about that. Doesn't it actually mean I find this whole "no Q in muh Rei threads" nonsense a complete and total joke?

But to avoid any misunderstanding: Rei Q having only part of Rei's soul with Rebuild 4 the story of Shinji trying to unite it is no joke.

>>2832762
>that stain on every scan of this image
あああああああああああ

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>>2833610
You're welcome.

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>>2833306
>I'm honestly not sure what arguments I haven't addressed. You've stated opinions I reject.
>You say focused loudspeaker that reverbs and I say it is telepathy.

Two things and one major point:

1: My suggestion is more likely, and holds up against Occams razor better. There are fewer assumptions made, and it works with the fact that they have a loudspeaker on the scene already. It isn't right for you to reject this fact, at the very least you must accept that your telepathy point should be dismissed.

2: Loudspeaker or telepathy, it's irrelevant because telepathy is not something that determines the identity of a individual. This important fact makes your argument in itself pointless, as true or not, it does not matter.

Finally, if we can't get you to debate or discuss honestly by accepting the above two facts, then we cannot move forward either. At this point you are holding the topic in a loop by refusing to consider and accept new argumentation, and it would seem that you do this because you lack a counter argument.

The rest of your post is laughable - you very clearly don't like Rei since you find it a problem that Rei was in the two first movies, that it was "too much", despite the fact that this was also the case in NGE. In the second or first for that matter, Rei does not even have the most screentime either. You pretend she was the focus of the first two, when in reality NGE is a story with an ensemble cast, something which is true for both the first and second Rebuild movie as well except the third which decides to merely pander.

The facts remain: Anno has been continuing to attack and degrade Rei Ayanami in his works. Rei Q is a part of that, as Rei Q embodies every single Rei-hater insult towards the actual Rei Ayanami. On that irrefutable case alone, she is not Rei and will never be.

>>2833565
>But to avoid any misunderstanding: Rei Q having only part of Rei's soul with Rebuild 4 the story of Shinji trying to unite it is no joke.

It is a joke, a joke on Rei's behalf. It portrays Rei as a useless puppet with zero character, which is the exact same portrayal people who Rei wants. Rei Q is a Rei for people who hate Rei, in particular Asuka fans and Kaworu fans, as they didn't like the original and spent their entire fandom ragging on Rei.

Your poor and stubborn defense of Rei Q throughout this thread is in itself proof that you wish to defend and uphold the insult that has been made towards Rei, and I suspect that you're little more than an evageeks poster coming here for kicks.

Reminder that over the course of the years you've come here, you've been disproven and shown to be wrong in every single argument you've made, where the "telepathy" and "SDAT" is only one of dozens of arguments you've made, some even including the claim that there was no difference between Rei and Rei Q.

You're never going to convince anyone, because the truth is apparent and obvious to all who does not hate Rei: Rei Q is not Rei.

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>>2833766
>>2833306
>I'm honestly not sure what arguments I haven't addressed. You've stated opinions I reject.
Adding that these are not simply opinions, they are actual theoretical possibilities, facts in themselves as the actual answer is unknown.

>>2833769
>It portrays Rei as a useless puppet with zero character, which is the exact same portrayal people who hate Rei wants.
Fixed.

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>>2833766
>My suggestion is more likely

Nope. In sci-fi fantasy if there is a voice only Shinji reacts to it is more likely telepathy than mechanical pinpoint audio beamed directly to Shinji's ears to ask him where he is.

>at the very least you must accept that your telepathy point should be dismissed.

Telepathy and loudspeakers can coexist.

>telepathy is not something that determines the identity of a individual. This important fact makes your argument in itself pointless, as true or not, it does not matter.

I believe I have already stated my reasoning at least half a dozen times. To help me understand your perspective can you answer:

1. How do you think I think a mental link was made between Shinji and Rei?

2. Do you believe that I believe Shinji or Rei has a mental link with any other character?

>At this point you are holding the topic in a loop by refusing to consider and accept new argumentation, and it would seem that you do this because you lack a counter argument.

So I say telepathy. You say loudspeaker. I say no, telepathy. And you say 'You will not accept new arguments and you have no argument.' Does this mean you think I am supposed to just say okay you are right or does it mean I am supposed to change my theory to something new? Fine, instead I now say Rei is a ventriloquist and demand you stop saying it is a loudspeaker because otherwise you refuse to accept new argumentation and you have no counterargument.

>you find it a problem that Rei was in the two first movies, that it was "too much",

Don't recall ever saying that. Since you have those words in quotes can you link where I said that? I already checked this thread. The problem I have is with the anti-Q theory that Anno hates Rei so much the punishment is being made the soul focus of the entire Rebuild series.(Yes that was a pun and it was honestly unintentional.)

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>You pretend she was the focus of the first two,

How much time would you like to spend debating this? I get the joke "Anno likes Asuka so he kept her out of Rebuild 1" but really you are the one hating Rei if you think Rei at best ties with cameo-Misato and Miss-Not-Appearing-in-this-Film Asuka.

As for Rebuild 2, this is what the whole third act was about
>>2833306

Asuka disappears off-screen the entire last half hour or more.

>Anno has been continuing to attack and degrade Rei Ayanami in his works.

That's an opinion. A fact would be Anno has attacked some Rei fans for being hopeless otaku.

>>2833769
> It portrays Rei as a useless puppet with zero character

Another loop. A few threads ago I was accused of running away but here is an example where I stand still but don't see the point of repeating myself over and over. Rei Q starts Rebuild 3 that way then because of Shinjibegins asking questions and trying to think for herself. There are any number of examples in other stories where a character is brainwashed and the story is getting them to snap out of it and to go back to their normal selves. That is exactly what this is except with mumbojumbo about souls and Evas and lances and Impacts. The point of Rei Q is not that Rei ha no character. The point of Rei Q is that Rei's character has been taken away and Shinji has to help her get it back.If anything Rei Q is like Anno doing a reverse of that emotions chat image that gets posted from time to time, showing everyone if Rei were an emotionless puppet this is what it would look like which is nothing like was shown before.

>you've been disproven and shown to be wrong in every single argument you've made

You keep using those words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean. (Actually I know they don't.)

> including the claim that there was no difference between Rei and Rei Q.

That sounds like you misreading one of the many times I have said Rei Q is Rei, which she is only with a portion of her soul.

>>2833931
>>2833933

>Nope. In sci-fi fantasy if there is a voice only Shinji reacts to
This is also conjecture. There's nothing to say that Shinji was the only one to hear, the others simply do not care and mute Shinji.

>Telepathy and loudspeakers can coexist.
But both at the same time creates more assumptions.

>To help me understand your perspective can you answer:

No. You will understand the following: telepathy is not something that determines the identity of a individual. This important fact makes your argument in itself pointless, as true or not, it does not matter.

The rest of your post was as expected, lies and nonsense. The facts stand: Anno has been continuing to attack and degrade Rei Ayanami in his works. Rei Q is a part of that, as Rei Q embodies every single Rei-hater insult towards the actual Rei Ayanami. On that irrefutable case alone, she is not Rei and will never be.

This is not an opinion, it is iron-clad fact.

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>>2833940
So we have reached the point of fingers-in-your-ears not-listening. Too afraid to say the words "You think Shinji and Rei created a mental bond when he saved her soul at the end of Rebuild 2" even if you don't believe it yourself. Better to just ignore the entire event.

Probably just as well for you now that I'm bothering to make webms instead of just screenshots.

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>>2833940
>the others simply do not care and mute Shinji.

Shame they don't allow sound webms on this board or I'd post the one I just made on this.

Anyway, yes Ritsuko does mute Shinji. Top frame. Since you never bothered to answer why Rei would ask Shinji where he was if Rei is using a pinpoint audio loudspeaker that only he would hear that would imply you are giving up on that explanation.

So now your theory is Misato and ritsuko hear Rei and just ignore it. No reaction. Everything is fine. But push the button when Shinji starts asking questions.

And then Sakura who is in the room with Shinji btw and never gives any indication of hearing what Shinji hears the first time Rei calls or the second time as in the middle frame does react when Shinji says it is Rei in the bottom frame.

You're happy with that argument. They all hear and they just don't care Rei is calling out on a big reverb loudspeaker (or did you decide to go with Rei is now a ventriloquist) asking where Shinji is.

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>>2833975
But if you do want to see the scene without audio...

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>>2833977

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>>2833977
Posting Rei since I can't add it to the webm.

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>>2833980
>>2833982

>>2833370
And then you wonder why Anno hates us Reifags so much, you're validating his opinion that we're all just escapist otaku

>current year
>not filtering tripfags

>>2833961
>>2833975
>So we have reached the point of fingers-in-your-ears not-listening.
We reached that point long ago woth you. I'm keeping this brief, point for point, because you are a dishonest person who has so far refused to consider arguments of others, and you have been doing this for months and even years. This is why we must force the consideration of single points:

The ability of telepathic communication does not determine the identity of a person. If any one person is able to communicate telepathically, it would not mean that said person is Rei Ayanami.

This is something fundamental you either have to accept or disprove.

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>>2833933
>That's an opinion. A fact would be Anno has attacked some Rei fans for being hopeless otaku.
Another fact is that Anno "burns his emotions on to film," so you have just provided a motive for his denigration of Rei.

>muh telepathy
Nigga pls, for all we know Shinji was hallucinating. The only times we see telepathy in Eva there's a lot of artifice around it because it requires either directional AT Fields, bio-contamination or immense amounts of tech (the plug) to achieve.

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>>2833931
http://archive.nyafuu.org/c/thread/215460

You've been shitposting in these threads and getting proven wrong in every single one of them. Your "desire" is for Rei to kill herself so Asuka and Shinji can walk together into a normal sunset.

You're a delusional evageek asukafag. Tell kendrix to jump off a bridge, by the way.

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>>2834127
>refused to consider arguments of others

Obviously that is factually untrue. I considered the argument up to the point you couldn't answer a valid question.

-Telepathy does not make anyone Rei
-Sure but Shinji and Rei clearly bonded at a level beyond physical when his soul saved her soul
-Telepathy does not make anyone Rei
-Sure but Rei clearly communicated directly to Shinji
-It's a loudspeaker
-Why don't others hear it
-It's directional into only Shinji's ears
-Why then is she asking where he is
-You won't consider arguments!

The idea that Anno completely kept Rei Ayanami out of Rebuild 3 is silly head-cannon. However bad you think the story is, Rebuild is about Shinji trying to protect Rei.

>>2834180
> for all we know Shinji was hallucinating

That is even better than my ventriloquist theory! The whole first half hour of Rebuild 3 never really happened. Beautiful!

>getting proven wrong in every single one of them

Aside from a handful of quotes from interviews along the way I'm the only one proving anything and posting any kind of evidence.

For example, amazing new webm for everyone to enjoy and remember.

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>>2834195
>-Telepathy does not make anyone Rei
>-Sure

Good. Now that we've established that any "telepathy" is irrelevant, then we can lay your argument dead. It is irrelevant for you to keep bringing it up, particularly since it's just fanwank to begin with. A loudspeaker was on the scene, and this is what was used.

That brings us to the next point:

- Picking up, holding or owning a SDAT does not determine the identity of an individual.

This is something fundamental you either have to accept or disprove.

>The idea that Anno completely kept Rei Ayanami out of Rebuild 3 is silly head-cannon.

He kept Rei out of Rebuild 3.33 in every important way.

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>>2834184
>Your "desire" is for Rei to kill herself so Asuka and Shinji can walk together into a normal sunset.

Why is "desire" in quotes when I gave no value judgement on that idea other than it is my guess of how Rebuild 4 would end. There are many versions of the 'boy meets girl' story and end of Rebuild 2 through Rebuild 3 is 'boy loses girl' but nothing in Evangelion really suggests Rei will end up happy and victorious in the ShinjiBowl (are kids still doing that meme?) other than perhaps one... Anno could rhyme the happy husband Gendo in the how's-it-hanging-Rei alternate universe with happy husband Shinji and loving wife Rei. Shinji getting a version of what his father fails to.

Small chance but possible.

btw, that was a figurative walk off into a sunset and not a literal one.

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>>2834200
You are a shallow person so your speculation closely matches your desire. You are only concerned about shipping like the dumb evageek you are.

>b-but it was figurative
Fucking give me a break. You even compared to the walking off in 3.33. Cut the crap, evageek.

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This is some ridiculous bullshit. I just rewatched 3.33 and it's obvious to anyone who isn't totally special ed that Rei was speaking only to Shinji and nobody else heard it, making it pretty fair to assume that it was telepathy.
Does that make her Rei 100%? No. But it does mean that part of our original Rei is inside of Q, without question. She is no less and no more Rei than Rei II or Rei III. Just because she's lost more memories doesn't make her "not Rei." It's sort of disgusting that you guys are so adamant about your refusal to accept one specific Rei as not Rei. Saying Q is Rei is equivalent to saying any version of Rei after the original is not Rei, therefore Rei II and Rei III are not Rei, either.
You're all so hung up on hating Asuka that you refuse to love Rei; it's sad.

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>>2834199
>Good. Now that we've established that any "telepathy" is irrelevant

Wow, right down to 5-year-old's-argument. You might as well become a politician and get paid to be so dishonest.

Shinji and Rei have a mental bond. The music player is so important Rei held on to it when her existence was reduced to nothing but her soul. Rebuild 4 will be Shinji succeeding or failing to unite Rei's soul.

Your best hope is that Anno never finishes Rebuild because you and many others are going to have to quit the Rei threads once your irrational theories are eliminated once and for all.

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>>2834207
How uncanny, an Asuka fan defending someone who hates Rei. Who would have thought?

Rei Q is crafted as a "fuck you" to Rei, and ONLY an Asuka fan would actually want this to be Rei or argue for it, because this "Rei Q" is what you want Rei to be: a doll.

You couldn't and still cant' deal with the fact htat Asuka was a useless puppet in NGE and Rei wasn't. Get over it already. Fuck off back to the Asuka thread.

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>>2834195
>Sure but Shinji and Rei clearly bonded at a level beyond physical when his soul saved her soul
This is your assumption. Looking at other instances of telepathy in the series there is no evidence of telepathy lasting beyond the point where is has a physical medium.

Shinji connected with his mother beyond the physical when he body dissolved in Eva-01's core, yet there is no lasting mental link beyond that. Rei and Asuka were interrogated by Angels but had no lasting link once it ended. By your logic Asuka and Shinji had a telepathic link after exiting the sea in EoE, since they were both bonded beyond the physical during instrumentality.

In your webm it's stated the SDAT player is just like the glasses Rei treasures. Rei does not have a telepathic link with Gendo, that's not what Gendo's glasses represent in the series.

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>>2834208
Let's try again:

That brings us to the next point:

Now that we have established that being capable of telepathy does not make a person "Rei", we can dismiss your arguments entirely, as we have done.

Let's move on:

- Picking up, holding or owning a SDAT does not determine the identity of an individual.

All we're doing here is trying to argue this like adults. We consider point for point, and accept the facts. It is a fact that telepathy doesn't determine who a person is, and I argue that the exact same thing goes for picking up a SDAT. Otherwise, Kaworu or Shinij would also be Rei, no?

>>2834207
It makes Rei Q 0% Rei, as always. You're a biased Asukafag who hates Rei, so of course you'd try to argue that an obvious attack on Rei's character "is no different" from the actual Rei. Hell you even say there's no difference between Re-Take "Rei" and the original.

You just have no damned self-respect, to lie so brazenly like that. Notice how Rei fans actually stick with the canon Asuka, while you need to make up fictional "Rei's" to attack? Make no mistake, you are a fandom-wrecker.

>>2834207
You clearly don't understand the first thing about Q if you think her case is equivalent to Rei II or III. With II and III Rei's soul moves from the previous body to the new one, making that new body Rei. In 3.0 it's outright stated that Rei's soul is still within Unit - 01, making Q something else entirely. People don't accept her as Rei because of this irrefutable fact and the the huge difference in behavior between them.

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>>2834207
>You're all so hung up on hating Asuka that you refuse to love Rei; it's sad.

The amazing thing to me is that Anno doesn't have Asuka at all in the first Rebuild, has Asuka mindraped in a variation of what happened to her in the original series, and completely replaced in the second half of Rebuild 2 by a brand new character using Unit 02 arguably better than Asuka ever did (well except against the mass production Evas which is my top 5 fight sequences anywhere, not just anime) and yet Asuka fans take it all in stride while "fans" here are complaining it is all a plot against Rei!

>>2834209
>this "Rei Q" is what you want Rei to be: a doll.

Now I know what my next webm to make is. All the times in Rebuild 3 Rei Q isn't just a doll.

>back to the Asuka thread.

The haters don't own this thread. You and lovely pictures of Rei and Asuka (and any others) together are welcome here any time! But then again, fans of a brace, strong character like Asuka doesn't need me to tell you that.

(I know you've seen this already but posting one of my favorite AxRs)

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>>2834207
>>2834195

We have a confirmed loudspeaker in the scene. Let me answer your questions and put this to rest:

>Why doesn't anyone else but Shinji care about Rei's voice?

Because they know it's not Rei, but one of the many soulless cones. They say it themselves, it's not Rei, as Rei is "no more". Even when Asuka sees Rei Q later, she just says she's an old version of the Ayanami-series. They're also busy.

>Why is there a reverb/lower volume?!

Because the sound is coming from outside, and our point of view (or rather, listening) is from a small interrogation room that's sealed with glass.

...and that's it. Exactly nothing out of the ordinary. Now see that this NEVER repeats itself in the entire movie. Also, accepting that it's a regular loudspeaker, or an advanced one (like ones we have TODAY without the advanced tech of the EVA world) means less assumptions.

Also if it WAS telepathy, then why would it even matter? Rei Q is a clone of Yui just like Rei is degraded to being in Rebuild, why wouldn't someone with the exact genetic makeup have the same abilities?

>B-but her soul!
Kaworu straight out say that she's without a soul, and Fuyutsuki says Rei is in EVA01.

Drop the act. You hate Rei and that's that.

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>>2834215
MistressLegato and QuarterSoul are Asuka fans.

They are pathetic to come here and shitpost constantly over four fucking years.

>>2834216
Wow, QuarterSoul confirmed for Asuka loving, Rei-hating bigot.

No wonder you hate the original Rei so much, you NEED Rei Q so your waifu won't look as bad. That's precisely why Rei Q was made, and that's why everyone except you calls it BS.

>Asuka
>brave
HAHAHAHAHAHAH no.

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>>2834214
>we can dismiss your arguments entirely

You didn't need me to say anything to do that. You've been completely dismissing my points for 2 years while I have been refuting your arguments with evidence from the TV series and movies.

I know you will take this as me running away but I really honestly can't spend more time today on this nonsense. Procrastination is a very bad habit of mine but I do have limits. I should be back by next weekend. That will give you time to actually click, read, and consider the videos about the meaning of the SDAT in Evangelion:

>>2833961
>>2834195
>>2834200

(Misato with Rei pic unrelated, just a reminder who my favorite Eva girl is)

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>>2834215
They know. Both MistressLegato and QuarterSoul knows that Rei Q is not like Rei in any way but appearance. The problem is that they're Asuka fans, and as Asuka fans they will always hate Rei because Rei is better than Asuka. They're envious losers who simply can't get over that their favorite fictional character is worse than another.

They are so far into their own delusion and act that they actually enter Rei threads pretending to "like all characters", or Rei, and then strongly attack the character or promote objectively worse versions of Rei, even caricatures and insults towards the characters.

Everyone who watches Rebuilds or knows Evangelion knows that Anno hates Rei for otaku reasons, but Asuka fans in particular needs to deny this in order to defend their pandering. It's just like Asuka in the series, they're delusional and need to live a lie. For Asuka it was that she was "the best, chosen EVA-pilot", for Asuka fans it's that "the new EVA is completely normal."

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>>2834216
>fans of a brace, strong character like Asuka doesn't need me to tell you that.
I hope this is sarcasm because the entire point of Asuka's character is she's a terrified little girl who doesn't want to be abandoned. All her gusto is just a front.

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I really hope it makes you guys able to sleep at night, crying about how much you love Rei more than anyone else . . . while the rest of us who ACTUALLY love Rei in all of her forms fight for her true acceptance.
What a bunch of childish idiots. "The only Rei for me is the one invented in my own mind!"
Sorry, not sorry - Anno is the father of Rei, Asuka and Shinji. What he says is true *IS* canon, no matter what complete fucking retards you want to be about it.
Poor Rei . . . to be burdened with such half-hearted, fake fans.

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>>2834229
Stop projecting. You don't like anything but the fanfiction in your head. This is why you recoil at the thought of canon Asuka and Rei, you decry them as fakes because they no longer match your idealized version of them.

Explain to me then, how we can stick with the canonical, original Rei, while you always depend of fanfics and spinoffs?

Just because Asuka isn't exactly how I expected her to be in Rebuild doesn't make her any less of Asuka; Shikinami seems like the kind side of Asuka that they didn't have time to share with the fans during the original Eva run. It doesn't make her any less of an Asuka, though. It helps make her a 3 dimensional character.
I don't see how making Rei more human makes her any less Rei. She's kind, caring and wants to unite the two people she cares about. Q is a bit lost, but she still remembers her feelings for those she cares for, which doesn't make her as much of a soulless doll as you "Rei fans" want to pretend she is.
>>2834231
Stop being such a retard. Like I said, I accept all *CANON* versions of the characters as themselves.
Anno wrote the stories, therfore they ARE canon, no matter how autistic you want to be about the fanfiction in YOUR head. And you are totally free to be completely ignorant of the truth, but trying to force it on other people and calling them lesser fans because what you wished for the characters isn't how things turned out just makes you an asshole.
Not all of us are trapped in your crazy head where only NGE is canon.

>>2834221
>You didn't need me to say anything to do that.

Notice how I said "we" ? We are discussing, I'm not having this conversation by myself. You also need to accept the facts for us to continue, as I have. You've gotten one fact down, that "telepathy" is irrelevant in determining the identity of an individual. Now you need to be honest and do that for the SDAT-holding as well.

Then you can, like an adult, accept the facts as they are: Rei Q is not Rei. Then we can move onto the higher meaning of things. You will run away though, because all you want is to spread hate towards Rei, as you hate her for being superior to your waifu Asuka.

>hur dur meaning of SDAT11+1!

We already nailed it before 3.33 came out. When it did came out, it confirmed everything. You're so far behind it's sad.

>>2834229
Nice projection, replace Rei with Asuka and you've got yourself.

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>>2834222
>Everyone who watches Rebuilds or knows Evangelion knows that Anno hates Rei for otaku reasons, but Asuka fans in particular needs to deny this in order to defend their pandering.
What's bizarre is Anno made Rei into the perfect bushido girl, stoically looking down death and ready to sacrifice herself (for the wrong reasons, but still), yet he has come to hate her.

He seems to want to return to when Japan was an imperial empire, calling Japan as it stands now a nation of children. He even names everything in the show after WWII naval vessels and makes many other allusions to Japan's greatness pre-WWII.

I think what he hates is that people took his suicidal samurai girl, perhaps a critical commentary on the excesses of Japanese servitude, and made her a moeblob. He strikes me as quite a confused gentleman.

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>>2834233
No, you don't. You only lie and say you do, proving it is what's important. Truth is, you're unable to accept the reality of the situation and only defends Anno's changes because it's good for you as a shallow Asuka fan.

See how you defend Shikinami, by projecting the positive changes onto the original. Even though the original HAD NO SUCH PERSONALITY TRAITS. Don't you see? Shikinami was made for YOU as an Asuka fan to fantasize and project onto the original Asuka, because deep in your heart you know Asuka is a shitty character. You NEED Shikinami.

Just like you NEED Rei Q's negative character changes to project onto Rei in the original that didn't have them.

This is the ultimate proof that you, MistressLegato, and sadly nearly all other Asuka fans don't actually like the characters, much less all versions of them.

>>2834235
He's an otaku. Rei was more popular than his self-insert fanfic version of Kushana. Of course he's going to be butthurt about it and rationalize it any way he can.

Whatever talent he has, he's still a rotten person. Mengele was a great doctor, but we all know what he did with his talent.

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>>2834235
Consider Nausicaa for a second. Nausicaa is the most popular character, she's pure, self-sacrificing, heroic and still puts off a pacifistic vibe. But Anno's favorite here is not this type, it's Kushana, the warrior-princess with mommy issues.

Anno said that Evangelion is his continuation of Miyazaki's Nausicaa.

What Anno hates is that he sees this pattern repeated: the public chooses the more pure and well-meaning heroine, over the selfish and war-like one. This is why he keeps ragging down on Rei fans.

If Anno wanted a return to a Japanese empire, then surely the avatar of that wouldn't be a half-american, half-german foreign girl who represents squilch of Japan.

>>2834229
Alright.

>I really hope it makes you guys able to sleep at night, crying about how much you love Rei more than anyone else . . . while the rest of us who ACTUALLY love Rei in all of her forms fight for her true acceptance.

I'm not going to be lectured by a fucking Asukafag of all people on the legitimacy of my love for Rei when that is the very reason I and others refuse to accept Q as her. Q is an insult to the very idea of Rei, she is Rei as perceived by people who hate Rei, an obedient puppet with no free will. The closet she comes to having any will of her own is when she tries to emulate what she believes what Rei would do towards the end of 3.0. At best that's all she'll ever be, a clone that tries to act as Rei would, but never actually being Rei. To blindly accept anything under her name as truly her shows how little you care for her, that you'd put no thought into her.

>What a bunch of childish idiots. "The only Rei for me is the one invented in my own mind!"
Sorry, not sorry - Anno is the father of Rei, Asuka and Shinji. What he says is true *IS* canon, no matter what complete fucking retards you want to be about it.

Be honest, have you even watched the fucking show? Because a key concept that gets thoroughly hammered into your head is that the idea of a person everyone conceives from the same base is of equal value. However, what Anno is doing with Q is to bring in an entirely different "base" and telling people to accept her as Rei.

>Poor Rei . . . to be burdened with such half-hearted, fake fans.

Again, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about and the very idea that you think a person's refusal to accept the largest possible insult to Rei as Rei means they aren't an actual fan of the true Rei is fucking disgusting.

>>2834235
Only people who don't appreciate Rei's gentle nature and ignore the things she is passionate about would say such awful things about her. Anno trying to give her more feelings doesn't mean he hates her - in all honesty, it's probably to make Asukafags stop being so cruel towards her and try to understand the way she is.
As I creator, I know I'd never go out of my way to make anyone HATE any of my main characters. There are undesirable things about all of them because nobody is perfect, but suspecting a creator hates his creation just because he tries to make her appeal to more people only prove how much he loves her; he wants people to appreciate Rei.
>>2834236
You're obviously a complete psycho and are not worthy of further arguments with your false assumptions and baseless "proof" of only what you like to see. I bet you're REAL popular IRL with your garbage attitude . . .
"cancer," "projecting," "boogeyman," etc. Please at least try coming up with new words if you're going to continue being a cunt about everything.

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>>2834233
Shikinami is a complete pandering rewrite of Asuka. Is it any strange at ALL that you don't have any objections?

>a; Shikinami seems like the kind side of Asuka that they didn't have time to share with the fans during the original Eva run. It doesn't make her any less of an Asuka, though. It helps make her a 3 dimensional character.

So that's what you tell yourself? That this "Shikinami", which is irreconcilable with the original Asuka, is "the real Asuka" they didn't get to show?

How many layers of lies do you have to tell yourself before you drown in them?

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>>2834236
I can sympathise with his fury as a fellow artist when people don't "get" his art, but this is something to be grown out of by the time you're 20.

"Don't you get what Rei was about? Fine! I'll make her x10 as bad as any of you could!" This is just impotent thrashing around, devoid of any artistic merit beyond superficial Freudian psychoanalysis of the author's intent, much like that which people like to pump into the show. He has invited this on himself with his actions, as you alluded to, like many other artists have.

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>>2834239
So the Asuka fan who invades a Rei thread is calling someone else a psycho? That's rich. I'll level with you any time, as I am now, but you keep running away from the facts.

also, not him, but:
>it's probably to make Asukafags stop being so cruel towards her and try to understand the way she is.

Yeah, that's working real fine, isn't it? We have now, two named Asuka fans in this thread doing their best to be cruel towards Rei. Saying that a dull clone of Yui with no will of her own, who only follows orders. Isn't this exactly what hateful Asuka fans have been saying for years?

Then now when one is written, you want to equate her with the ACTUAL Rei? Are you at all not seeing what you're doing here?

Anno hates Rei, just like you do, and you'll tell any lie to keep up the charade.

>>2834245
Do you just get halfway through a comment and respond as soon as you spot the chance for a sick fucking burn? I'll spell it out as simply as I can here. If you, Anno and I were to come out with or own interpretations of Rei based on what we see of her in NGE and EoE they would be of equal value, we are working off the same base person but coming to our own conclusions.

Q is a different situation. On top of the fact that Rei's soul is within Unit - 01 (something I told you earlier and you completely ignored) Q's personality is shown to be completely different from Rei's. She is not the same base, she is a completely separate entity.

>>2834246
The sad thing is that that people DID get his art. What was made, was made. Rei was the superior character in terms of originality, development and completeness. That resonated with the audience. NGE was a harsh time for Anno, he was under the control of investors and was forced to make something good, in a certain timeframe. He didn't have any choice but to do his best.

I can't sympathize with his fury. It's childish and just a few moments of self-relections and honesty should have told him that what he's doing is wrong.

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>>2834250
No, you're all just so fucking ignorant, it's annoying.
People who don't agree with your bullshit theories all "hate Rei," is complete and utter hogwash.
But do, keep trying to make yourselves all feel better by hating on anyone who isn't as totally brainwashed by personal fanwank as you all are.
Good day. I just thought I'd point out how completely fucking stupid you're all being. Instead of appreciating Rei, your tearing her to shreds because ONE version of her doesn't suit your needs.

>>2834250
The Asuka fans are just butthurt their thread is fucking dead, and the Kaworu thread will overtake them within this week.

Sad because Asuka fans only spam images of Shikinami and never discuss anything.

>>2834255
The thing is, I and the rest of the people unfortunate enough to be wasting our time on you have been refuting everything you say. You continue to ignore all that and insist that we're the brainwashed ones, when we're the ones who provide actual arguments for our stances. you're a fucking disgrace, please never return.

>>2834255
>People who don't agree with your bullshit theories all "hate Rei," is complete and utter hogwash.

It's 100% correct. Because even if you say:
>But do, keep trying to make yourselves all feel better by hating on anyone who isn't as totally brainwashed by personal fanwank as you all are.

the only party with evidence, proof and objective facts here, are us. You have fanwank about Rebuild and pure denial.

We'll debate you, take you on, any time, anywhere, Completely calmly and fairly if you so wish. But in these threads, all you've done is write like an angry 13-year old while also insulting the thread's residents. Then you actually claim that you like Rei more than everyone else.

Again, do you somehow NOT see that equating Rei Ayanami to a dimwitted, soulless clone of Yui who can only follow orders and nothing else might out you as someone who doesn't like Rei very much?

You haven't forgotten that Asuka fans all hated on Rei, as per your own words, and insulted Rei by calling her a doll? Just like Asuka did? Because it appears that your hate for Rei lies so deep in your ugly soul that you don't even realize it yourself.

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>>2834256
Hilarious, now that that was said Mistress bugs off back to the dead Asuka thread and tries to start "discussion"!

Enjoy the crickets, namefag.

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>>2834256
The talkative nature of this place compared to others on the board really is a blessing and a curse. It makes for a great place to chat or just read through when it's just us here but when trolls come everyone is so happy to jump on them.

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>>2834271
Well, we're all deeply unhappy with the state of things, particularly the trolls.

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>>2834239
>As I creator, I know I'd never go out of my way to make anyone HATE any of my main characters.
As a creator I can tell you many artists are often vindictive even towards their own supporters to the point of self-destruction.

We see this pattern with Anno again and again. When someone makes him compromise he lashes out, like he did with episode 18. When toy makers told him the Evas were too skinny to make merchandise of he made them even thinner. When he saw otaku flocking to the Eva franchise he attempted to drive them out. He is driven by self-disgust and disgust at his countrymen. These are his own words, not mine.

Like I wrote, I sympathise with his fury but it's embarrassing he has carried that forward into his 50s. As >>2834253 wrote it's indicative of a lack of self-reflection. Anno would probably admit as much himself.

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>>2834239
>As I creator, I know I'd never go out of my way to make anyone HATE any of my main characters.

That's what Anno is doing right now with his Evangelion spinoffs. Every time you deny it, or take Anno in defense, you are furthering his hate towards Rei fans.

I take it, that this was what you want?

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>>2834255
>Muhblublu
>Anno would never intentionally ruin Ayanami for people to hate her
>I know because I'm Anno myself

Poor writers do that all the time.
The most abhorrent case was with My Immouto Something (Kuroneko show) where the show was supposedly about that filthy wretch of a little sister except nobody other than writer himself and a handful of fags fucked up even more than Asukafags are.
Everyone watched the show for Kuroneko and other third and fourth role supporting characters who had way greater, more developed and interesting characters than the subject of the show and even more developed relationships with protag.

So the story was nearing the end where literally nobody except the author himself cared about the main subject of the show, he failed to make her and her relationships with protagonist interesting to anyone at all.
So what he ended up doing was to conclude the story with a breakdown and a particularly nasty scandal for every other character, he was pouring buckets of shit on every single female character, destroyed all their relations with MC and only so his favorite could come out on top of all that mess.

This is exactly what Anno is doing.
I dont know about Nausicaa and it doesnt matter for what reason Anno likes her. What matter it is a fact that Asuka was intended to be a female lead in NGE but she ended up percieved as an antagonist and a nuisance to Shinji and other good characters.

So what he is doing now is making Asuka a better girl while making Rei worse.
This is fucking evident and obvious.
Asuka is getting all the action scenes, attention and is a much more stronger, positive and less fucked up character while Rei is losing everything and turns first into a retard Poka-Poka and then into vegetable Q.

And all thar because he failed to make Asuka any good in the first place.
Asuka was supposed to be better than Rei and since she cant, the only solution is to make Rei worse.

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Almost Rei.

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>>2834869
Sucks that you can't see Rei's plugsuit core so you can't tell if it's Rebuildshit Rei or TV Rei.

Stock pics when?

>>2834872
Rebuild collar
I'm still getting one
RELEASE WHEN?
INFO GIVE!

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>>2834873
>Rebuild collar
Into the trash it goes for me then.

Call me when someone (fucking anyone) makes the proper TV cast. Still hoping that figma will do it but that's pretty unlikely.

>>2834865
Yep, she's by far the best cosplayer

You can also find pics of the same set with photoshopped red eyes

>>2834864
Haven't seen this one before.

10/10 would frame.

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>take a month long break from /c/
>come back
>rei threads arent shitstorms anymore

excellent

>>2835335
It's precious now.

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>>2835335
The shitposters are slowly dissipating.

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For anyone who needs to claim their waifu in other threads

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>>2832747

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>>2835347
isn't that like $10,000,000 though

>>2835351
Yeah sounds right.

I screencapped it from another one of these threads, hoping someone knows the context

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>>2835352
https://archive.nyafuu.org/c/thread/2549207/#2549722

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>>2835352
Possibly for a lifesized model? There was a giveaway at 7-Eleven in Japan a few years back. Maybe someone sold one of them? The was one of Rei and one of Asuka.

>>2834184
Isn't kendrix one of the biggest Reifags on that site? What's wrong with her?

>>2834237
Kushana is much stronger than Nausicaa.
Kushana is the one that picked herself back up without relying on any one else.
Are you saying Asuka is stronger than Rei?

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>>2835454
Asuka is a failed character.
She was meant to Rei present overcoming problems and shit, she was meant to be Shinjis reward for not running away but she ended up being just a sick bitch who just stuck around for no reason and everybody hated her.

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>>2835460
You bitter cunt, that's such bullshit. Can't you declare that you like Rei without being a dick tit about Asuka?
It's more like you HATE Asuka so Rei is all that's left for you to like. Your hate is way stronger than your love for Rei since you can't seem to make a single post about positive things, or why you love Rei without ripping another character down.
Pathetic louse.

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>>2835433
This guy is just a butthurt faggot. Pay no mind.

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>>2834806
Source where Anno says, "Asuka was meant to be a lead, but she failed?" I've honestly never read anything where he says that.
It's pretty obvious that Rei was meant to be the female lead, which is why so many of the important parts of the story are tied to her, directly. Asuka doesn't even show up in the first few episodes!
Anno also gave Rei that smart girl, good girl, doesn't argue with authority, quiet, Japanese girl personality that other Japanese people always seem to choose for their favorite characters. Much like Ami Mizuno/Sailor Mercury was the favorite character of most Japanese fans, whereas characters with personalities were favored in the West. Asuka was favored in the west for largely the same reason - we aren't as brainwashed into being quiet and just cogs in the machine that don't squeak like the Japanese are, so Rei was viewed by many as cold and weak; she is rarely kind to anyone, nor is she openly mean to anyone. She's is mild mannered, doesn't speak up when people wrong her and acts much like a puppet for Gendou.
Given her trauma and the fact that she was groomed from day 1 to be Gendou's dog, it makes sense she is how she is, but it just doesn't connect with western fans as much as Asuka's in your face, here are my opinions whether you like them or not, "go fuck yourself!" attitude. People tend to choose the character they relate to the most as a favorite - it's not saying, "fuck Rei, I hate her!" it's just saying, "I relate to Asuka more and have trouble relating with Rei."
I don't understand why this concept of being able to like multiple characters is so hard for you guys to grasp.

>>2835460
And what the fuck does this have to do with Kushana?

By you saying Asuka is a ripoff of Kushana, you're admitting Asuka is strong because Kushana is strong.
Much stronger than Nausicaa was. Kushana pulled herself together all on her own and was very selfless and noble in her ideals.
To link her to Asuka would be to link all those qualities to her.

>>2835479
It has been both stated by Anno and shown in the show that Misato is the female lead.
To imply either Asuka or Rei are instead of her is ridiculous and delusional.

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>>2835475
>Can't you declare that you like Rei without being a dick tit about Asuka?
I can, I even did that a couple of times.
I hate Asuka a lot partly because shes an awful bitch and also because her Asukafags are assholes too perpetually mad about their waifu being shit and constantly attacking us because of their virtual micropenis inferioeity complex eaifu equivalent.

I enjoy being a dick to them whenever given a chance.

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>>2835483
>By you saying Asuka is a ripoff of Kushana, you're admitting Asuka is strong because Kushana is strong.

I think Asuka was MEANT to be strong but Anno failed to make her so as a director. She should have been strong but she isnt.
And thats why he is butthurt and hates Rei.

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>>2835490
> Angry because a mentally fucked up 14 year old girl doesn't live up to my standards as a "strong" woman.

She's definitely stronger than most of us would be in her situation. Of course she's fragile and messes up (and god forbid, gets emotional because she's 14 and JUST started her period and that shit screws with your head) and lashes out once in ahwile, and ends up broken after getting mind-raped by an angel. She doesn't have backup bodies where memories can be erased, unlike another female character we know.

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>>2835557
I was here just today.
I think there are many people who think that Asuka is shit, like everyone in this thread except personally (You)
>>2835558
>and lashes out once in ahwile,
Ok lets count
-Antisocial ego maniac
-Starting a fight from a get go
-Recklessly fucks up her first deployment to show off
-Negative teamwork value, cant follow Shinji, lost her shit when Rei did same job easily, and bitched out about it later
-Was celebrating Shinji's presumptive death because he got a better test than she did. Picrelated even Rei is pissed off (should have actually smacked the bitch)
-Was trying to lead the team wrong way in blackout episode despite not knowing shit.
-Slapped Rei for giving her an advice, didnt follow the advice, got grounded
-Complained about being saved by Rei
-Complained later about deploying Shinji to save Rei
-Tried to killed herself (cant even do that right)
-Woke up and still was a bitch

Shit man your bitch is the worst.
She doesn't just suck at everything, she has negative value, she's worse than nothing, she's rtuining everything and actively hurting every character and herself because she's fucked up.

Why the fuck did you even come here you winged faggot?

>>2835433
>Isn't kendrix one of the biggest Reifags on that site?
She's a Kaworu fan, not a Rei fan.

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>>2835454
>Are you saying Asuka is stronger than Rei?

No, I'm saying Asuka is a ripoff from Kushana. Asuka herself is weak.

>>2835479
>Much like Ami Mizuno/Sailor Mercury was the favorite character of most Japanese fans, whereas characters with personalities were favored in the West.

Nonsense, Usagi is the most popular Sailor moon. The others are popular, but Usagi is #1 in all the polls. Misato was the one who was initially popular in the west, not Asuka. Refer to the otaku gathering at a convention.

There's also different demographics at play. The audience of Evangelion is more mixed, bringing in children, adults and regular people. It's a varied group. In the west, particularly in the 90's when anime was more scarce and required far more work to get hold of and watch (in particular new anime), it was really only the otaku we could select from. In Japan, the otaku also prefer Asuka, whereas Rei is more of a public figure.

Also, I think Rei is overall a more relatable character. Not everyone is a bitch or has mommy issues, but I guarantee you that everyone sentient has existential thoughts or even problems now and then. Everyone thinks "who am I?" or "what am I really?" at some point in their lives. Rei is a character for all of us, her struggle is all of our struggles. She's more representative of the human tragedy and the tragedy of Evangelion itself, with it's sci-fi horror, isolation and loneliness.

Then Rei does speak up at times when people wrong her or those around her. But the truth is, Rei doesn't need to speak up because we in the audience know in our hearts that Rei is on the good side of most things.

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>>2835701
*the audience of Evangelion in Japan is more mixed
Clarifying that a little bit. In the 90's you quite literally had to get your Evangelion by mail, and on VHS at that - you even had to pay for it. Then the quality of the subtitles were "crabsticks" tier. As someone who's seen some of those subs, it's no wonder people prefer Misato as she's far more of a straight forward character. Rei's words and abstract way of thinking and describing things came out as total gibberish in the English version. With Misato, and arguably Asuka as well, there's the universal language of sex and slapstick humour, an otaku favorite. THE otaku favorite in fact.

>>2835490
I don't think Asuka was meant to be strong at all. She was meant to be a weak, scared little girl who engaged in escapism in order to make herself feel better. In Evangelion, she was punished for this sin.

Rei on the other hand, was meant to be strong I believe, at least internally. She has spirit and strong will, but her exterior would be calm like a still lake with a thin layer of brittle ice on top. Rei is similarly awarded for her sacrifice and strength, and refusal to engage in escapism in the series.

>>2835483
Original anon here. I don't believe I'm doing that at all, because it's the character and aesthetics Anno rips off, not the strength. While Kushana was able to get over herself, that wasn't the case for Asuka. Anno made his own weak version of Kushana because that's his thing, these fragile red-haired maidens with a broken heart.

Then I don't think Kushana was stronger than Nausicaa, because purity and will is also a form of strength, the power to resist using power is also highly ideal as well. Nausicaa is the one who saves, conquers and even defeats depression/death/nothingness, ultimately releasing all of mankind from their fate.

Kushana on the other hand, is still born a princess and through that, relies on sacrificing the lives of others in order to destroy, and not to create or save.

>>2835558
>She's definitely stronger than most of us would be in her situation.

Definitely not true. I wager that none of us would attempt commit suicide if we weren't catered to all the time, or got things to go our way all the time.

>>2835713
I'm not a fan of Asuka in the slightest but you're just being disingenuous in simplifying her character to such a degree. I mean her mom abandons her as like a 5 year old so she becomes completely dependent on the attention and praise she gets from piloting Eva, loses that when Shinji blows her the fuck out and has a breakdown after losing the only thing giving her any sense of self worth. She hard a hard time, doesn't excuse her being such a bitch at every opportunity in her day to day life but her suicide attempt was a pretty fair reaction to having the rug pulled from under her at mach 10.

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>>2835720
I'm not being disingenuous - you are.

All you can elaborate with are simply points of Asuka's character where you claim we should feel sorry for her, which doesn't make Asuka stronger. You're not being entirely honest either. While Asuka does lose her mother, the truth is that so did all the other children, and Asuka was still the best treated child.

Rei has no biological parents, and her "stepfather" is Gendo, known as one of the worst parent in anime. To make matters worse, Rei was threatened on her life, abused and killed simply to satisfy the fancy of a moody researcher, and this nightmare is something that goes on all the time.

While you say Asuka was abandoned by her mother, that much is not true either. Asuka's mother went crazy and died, gone. She dies and therefore does not abandon Asuka, like for instance Gendo abandons Shinji. Shinji by the way, also lost his mother, and then had to suffer being actually abandoned by his father, who is still alive and actively ignoring him.

Comparatively, with her foster family, special treatment and training as a pilot, Asuka was actually very well off. Despite being well off, Asuka is still the weakest and is effectively a human puppet, which is why you yourself act as if Asuka has no responsibility or free will to act of herself. You act as if Asuka could not have chosen differently, while she could. The other children prove that, as they went through far worse and still grew stronger.

Asuka had a hard time, but still a better time than anyone else and when things go wrong, it's actually her fault. There was no rug pulled under Asuka, it was her own fault for, excuse the term, "acting like a bitch". Whether it's badmouthing others and calling them bitches without reason, attacking them, being too reckless with the lives or others, refusing to be part of a team, Asuka's fall was all on her. She didn't have to charge Zeruel, refuse to play along with Rei / Misato or generally be hostile.

>>2835698
She's one of the very few people on that site that constantly defends Rei.

I remember a bunch of Reifags were shocked and never would have guessed it when it was linked that her favorite character is Kaworu. She hardly talks about him.

Not that it should matter, what matters is she's fighting the good fight against all those biased Asukafag haters.

>>2835720
>>2835722
As a final note on Asuka, her suicide was not a fair reaction at all. It showed you that Asuka really was weak and had no will of her own. All these years, NERV had been feeding her ideas of what to do, who to be and what to think. That she was special, an EVA-pilot of pedigree, and that she had a right to be #1. Of course, these were all lies. She was selected simply because of her mother volunteering herself.

All NERV had to d, was to say she wouldn't pilot any more, and down she goes. That is the pitfall of basing one's entire individuality on something that's not your own.

They manipulated Rei too, but Rei still kept her own personality and individuality intact by reflecting on these things, and making up her own opinion and points of view. Rei was told that she was replacable, simply an artificial human being who existed for others and not for herself. These were of course lies baked in with half-truths. It is true that Rei could be "replaced" as in revived after death. But it wasn't true that Rei had no worth. What shows strength here is how Rei accepts and uses the unflinching truth to her advantage: that she can die, and come back. Most would reject this due to how horrifying it is, but not Rei. Because she has this attitude, she is also able to dispel the lies about her own self, thus coming to a greater understanding about who she was, and who WE are. It helped Rei move forward, where Asuka only regressed and became a true doll.

There is a very beautiful thematic ending with all of this, where Asuka is motionless and used as sexual relief - much like a sex doll, and can only be "animated" with the help or others, or the use of "strings" - in her case, NERV used EVA-piloting.
Contrast with Rei, who now through her previous struggles, even though it's sounds cliche today, reveals the Goddess inside her, strikes back at her oppressor, and frees herself to return to her rightful place, restoring what people had taken from her.

>>2835710
>'s the character and aesthetics Anno rips off, not the strength.
Kushana's strength is her character.
The only thing in common with the two is red hair and a fucked up mother.
You calling her a ripoff implies that Asuka must be as strong and thick-skinned as Kushana, that her noble bravery is also something Asuka has because that is what makes up her character.

>Then I don't think Kushana was stronger than Nausicaa
She absolutely was.
Everyone noted Nausicaa being idealistic and living in a fantasy. She soon released she couldn't save everyone and many died for her sake. She often broke down and cried, and even had to be saved emotionally by Selm (Who shares a very evident resemblance to Kaworu...) several times.
She literally has to rely on a gary stu to save her. Like a damsel in distress.

>ultimately releasing all of mankind from their fate
Did you not even read the Manga or what? Why the fuck are you lying about how the story goes?

>relies on sacrificing the lives of others in order to destroy, and not to create or save.
Such is war, and she gladly risks her life to save her solders and honor their deaths, willing to give up all her goals and ambitions if it means she can save just one of her own in this horrid war.
That shows true strength.
She's not an idealist, she's a realist. She knows you can't survive in life thinking everything will turn out alright like Nausicaa.

She's stronger than her in every way possible. And more realistic, too. She has flaws and her own plights to overcome. Nausicaa has exactly one plight throughout the entire story, and needs to be saved by the "Kaworu" to get through it.

All these times you linked Asuka to Kushana, you were just proving us right that Asuka is indeed strong, realistic, and a fantastic character. It's a compliment, not an insult.
If you read the Manga you would understand that.

>>2835722
In typing my response I'd have to say I agree with you and was just interpreting things in a different sense, more arguing semantics than anything. I realized that I was arguing not that she's strong but more to rationalize her weakness. And I still do think she's justified to an extent, she experienced trauma at a young age and handled it extremely poorly, which fucked her when her method of compensating for it was destroyed. But I agree with you that she had it the the best of the pilots for sure.

And of course I'm on the exact same page with Rei, her resilience to far worse shit is one of my favorite parts of her.

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>>2835729
She defends Rei in the same condescending way all Kaworu fans do, by dismissing her as a weak little girl, a clone whose individuality does not matter. They'll scream she's cute and shippable, and while not untrue, this is the extent of their understanding of the character.

This is precisely why Rei Q is 100% acceptable to Kaworu fans and Kendrix as well. Truth be told, Kaworu fans aren't decent people at heart. They are selfish and self-absorbed in a way that isn't curable.

As for Evageeks, they do have a ban policy on Rei fans who don't subjugate themselves. Kendrix is little more than a convenient "Rei fan" for the Asuka fan regime. That is, Kendrix is a lapdog kept around to make Rei fans look bad, and to show that they have some fake representation on the site. Controlled opposition, as it were.

Kendrix's favorite character is the de facto most shallow moeblob character in Evangelion among those with relevance, and this person defends Rei.

Bottom line, Kendrix isn't a Rei fan, and is only "the biggest Rei fan on Evageeks" because the climate is intolerable for actual Rei fans.

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>>2835731
>The only thing in common with the two is red hair and a fucked up mother.
>You calling her a ripoff implies that Asuka must be as strong and thick-skinned as Kushana, that her noble bravery is also something Asuka has because that is what makes up her character.

Not at all. A ripoff isn't a full copy or a clone. It may be worse, or even better than it's original. Asuka inherits the aesthetic and the core backstory, which is what makes it a particularly bad ripoff because a character's core should at the very least be original, and not lifted off some manga.

>Everyone noted Nausicaa being idealistic and living in a fantasy. She soon released she couldn't save everyone and many died for her sake. She often broke down and cried, and even had to be saved emotionally by Selm (Who shares a very evident resemblance to Kaworu...) several times.
>She literally has to rely on a gary stu to save her. Like a damsel in distress.

Yet Nausicaa lives in the real world, conquers the real world and makes a difference in it. She is criticized perhaps for her idealism, but it turns out it was necessary. Being comforted is not a crime either.

>Did you not even read the Manga or what?

I have read the manga, and while it's been a time, I do remember Nausicaa descending down into Terminal Dogma and confronting the in-stasis mankind about their plans for the future. The current "humans" were engineered to simply be part of a phase which cleansed the earth of it's pollution, and would eventually die off to be replaced by the "actual" mankind. In destroying their plans, Nausicaa did relieve the current humans of this fate.

At any rate, that's what I meant.

>She's not an idealist, she's a realist.

You're misusing these terms. You mean pessimist and opportunist, as it turns out that Nausicaa's idealism was in fact a realistic and working option to get things done. The reality of the events trumps your external interpretation of it.

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>>2835739
>All these times you linked Asuka to Kushana, you were just proving us right that Asuka is indeed strong, realistic, and a fantastic character. It's a compliment, not an insult.
>If you read the Manga you would understand that.

Which is nonsense, as proved earlier. In Asuka's case, being linked to Kushana simply means that Asuka is a ripoff, a fan-fiction version of an earlier character. It means it isn't original, and in Asuka's case the backstory-segment is also used less realistically and worse.
Asuka does not inherit the strength of Kushana, as Asuka is in NGE a weak puppet. Kushana was not such a puppet that attempted to kill herself the second she did not get her way.

As a work of art, Asuka is a weak character by the fact that she is obviously a copy. Ironically, you yourself show this by proving that Asuka cannot stand on her own, as you project far too much onto her from the original: Kushana.

>She's stronger than her in every way possible. And more realistic, too. She has flaws and her own plights to overcome. Nausicaa has exactly one plight throughout the entire story, and needs to be saved by the "Kaworu" to get through it.

Ugh. Just go back to your Kaworu thread. Your obsession and disgusting personality is making you stalk these threads and not even be upfront about it.

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>>2835732
It is of course justified, because they are children and us as adults can expect absolutely nothing from them. Their failure is in reality our failure and nothing else.

But in terms of strength, aside from this, there isn't any of it in Asuka, only a fake image of it, which is the precise note the character ends on.

What's more is that when we change the context to heated fan discussion and personal responsibility, consider that a large portion of the fanbase outright hates on Rei and deems her disgusting, creepy or worthless simply because she was born as a angel/human hybrid. That is, Rei is faulted for simply being born, something she had no control over at all.

If this is to be the standard, then Asuka is more or less turbohitler for all the wrong she did and could actually choose not to do.

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>>2835602
One of Rei's best moments.

>>2835751
Asuka fans and Kaworu fans come here to get real discussion, versus the bluepilled nonsense they have at home.

>>2834271
Best rei picture that I've seen in a long time

>>2835792
I thought the same damned thing.

Just kept looking at it.

>>2835735
>She defends Rei in the same condescending way all Kaworu fans do, by dismissing her as a weak little girl, a clone whose individuality does not matter.
Do you have any evidence for any of this? Because I've never seen it in any of her posts.

>Rei Q is 100% acceptable
I recall her not liking Rebuild either, do you have any evidence she does? It's been a while since I've read her posts to be fair but I don't remember any of this.

>>2835739
>>2835751
>Asuka inherits the aesthetic and the core backstory
No she doesn't. Kushana's aesthetic is being a strong, selfless war princess. Asuka is no such thing.
Their backstories are not alike either. The only similarity between these two characters at all is that their mothers mistake their children for dolls. That is not a backstory.

>Being comforted is not a crime either.
It is when your single flaw in the entire story is solved by the gary stu.

Asuka is neither a weak character nor a ripoff. By linking her to Kushana you are linking her to her strengths.

>Just go back to your Kaworu thread
Bringing up Selm was to point that if anyone is the ripoff, it's Kaworu. Not Asuka.

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>>2835962
>It is when your single flaw in the entire story is solved by the gary stu.
>SELM MUH KAWROU

Oh fuck right off. It's quite clear your tiny brain can't comprehend anything but yaoi. To put it mildly, you're overestimating selm's role.

Then you also fuck up simple basics like not understanding what is meant by "aesthetic" or "core backstory" in regards to Asuka. Core backstory would be the loss of mother complete with doll-scene, almost a ripoff. The aesthetic would be the appearance, a redhaired child/girl combo who fights aggressively.

You then keep bringing in "selfless", "strong" and more traits which go far beyond anything which was described. Seriously, you're not worth anyone's time, you're simply too stupid and ignorant to waste time on. Hop back to your containment thread over at /cm/.

Asuka IS a weak character by virtue of her inability to face resistance, and she IS a ripoff because parts of her core character directly COPIES part of another character, in this case Kushana.

It is plagiarism, and if you can't deal with that, then thank you for proving the Kaworu fan stereotype right. You really are all irredeemable scumbags.

>>2835960
If you are going to feign ignorance, just dont post. Fuck off back to evageeks.

>>2835347
>>2835351
>>2835352
There was that 100k USD Masterwork Rei Fender and Telecaster. One of the most expensive Guitars in the world actually, if not the most expensive when new guitars are considered.

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Reminder to ignore all boogeyman shitposters.

>>2836113
>telecaster
FUCK

Strat ver. when?

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>>2836140
Also, incase anyone wants pics of it, managed to find it.

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10100973/10/0

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>>2835701
http://www.tuxedounmasked.com/2016/02/25/why-was-ami-the-most-popular-of-the-sailor-soldiers/
Fact check before talking out of your assite. Chibi Usa occasionally knocked Mercury to second place, but Ami was more often than not the most favorited sailor senshi. (I remember this even from my young otakudom at like, 14, from the magazine Smile and the Mixx comics.
Pro-tip: Google first, make unfactual statements second.
>>2835713
Why don't you make your decision after your mother disowns you for a doll, your father gives no fucks about you, your mom tries to get you into a suicide pact when you're, like, 4, then kills herself alongside who she thinks is you and you stumble upon her hanging.
After that, go through puberty as a female and handle the frustrations of that alongside preventing the Armageddon, trying to be a normal girl and make friends (and boyfriends), then you get showed up by some whiny, bitch ass, loser of a boy who doesn't even have to try to do the things you've excelled at through hard work and sheer determination (and all because he had daddy issues - just like Asuka had mommy issues, like, no shit) then get mind fucked by an angel. Get beaten and bloodied, feel like your limbs have been ripped from your body while every adult around you fucking fails at adulting, using you as a tool in a war against god, essentially, and see if you still have the will to fight. And remember, through a part of this, your hormones are absolutely out of whack and your uterine lining is agonizingly ripping itself out of your body.
Seriously. Get real, faggot.

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>>2836101
Jesus, you have serious issues dude. Anon entirely defended their position and your (usual, asinine) response is to be a complete fucking retard. Check your meds. Then check them again because your shit is crazy unbalanced.
>Your brain is small, you disagree so ur dumb! "Containment thread, muh hate for everyone who isn't a heartless doll, cancer"
Please look into a thesaurus. You clearly need one.

>>2836101
I don't know what gave you the impression I'm a fan of Kaworu, I'm trying to point out that Asuka is not a ripoff of Kushana yet even when you link her you're just confirming Asuka is strong like Kushana. So you're contradiction your own statements that she's "weak"

Based on your picture and your sperging I assume you must be from tumblr. In that case it's my own fault for taking your ilk seriously.

>>2836106
If you don't have any evidence, then don't post.
You're just a butthurt Asuka hater.

>>2836290
He gets triggered whenever Kaworu's name is mentioned.

He's posting art where Rei is drawn as fat, for fuck's sake.

And he's one of the reasons why we were attacked by shitposters in the first place.

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>>2836298
More like chokes

>>2836298
I love how it's always this one Asucuck who keeps spamming this shitty lowres image. Makes it easier for me to filter cancer.

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I accidentally entire Lovecraft bibliography.

Do you guys think Reichan counts as an eldrich cosmic horror?
Like a lovelly one?

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>>2836298
>worst boy (shinji) chose worst girl (asuka)
Nobody cares, there's no way Shinji deserves Rei.

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>>2836324
Kek.
So butthurt you have to live in your fanfic fantasy land.

Asuka and Shinji hardly even spoken to each other when Asuka was eternally mad about Shinji changing out with Rei.

Asuka has no friends, shes more beta than Shinji. Shinji changed out with boys and Rei Asuka only with Hikari and even she grew sick of her.

>>2836311
>eldrich
Don't know about cosmis (she was created by humas, no greater being had any intention to create her); but certainly eldrich.

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>>2836331
Actually she created humans, not the other way around.
Humans only gave her a temporal form of a little girl.

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>>2836324
Shinji is trash and he's the first to admit it.

I'm not going to ship best girl with the first pleb that comes along. Try having some standards.

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>>2836341
Both you and the Asucuck need to genuinely kys

>>2836341
It's confirmed. Reifags are cancer and shit.

I hope Anno makes you all want to die with 4.0

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>>2836346
>subjecting best girl to a cuck like shinji
Why?

>>2836361
We all know Anno is le epic ruse man. Even in the original series he has said he didn't know what to do with Rei after episode 6. I don't expect anything from rebuild.

>>2836290
If you are going to feign ignorance, dont post. Kensrix frequentes a number of Rei sites including ReiAyanami.com , which is when Kendrix on all occasions treated Rei like a shippable object, and defended Rei Q.

Asking for evidence for the obvious is feigning ignorance. We all saw.

>>2836380
>Kendrix on all occasions treated Rei like a shippable object, and defended Rei Q.
Any evidence? Screenshots?

Until then I have no reason to believe you and this conversation can be considered over. Sorry.

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>>2836287
If you had read that article you posted versus just reading the title you'd see that it concludes that while popular, Ami isn't really the most popular Sailor Moon character. At best, she was only popular in the target group of that magazine. There is a follow-up article that elaborates on this as well, providing errata and more:

>The data really speaks for itself and there isn’t much further to say here, but it is definite worth re-evaluating the commonly accepted myth that Ami is the most popular of the Sailor Team. She was (and is) definitely popular, yes, but a lot of that comes from the fact that many popularity polls at the time were done in anime magazines aimed at high school anime fans and older.

Other more authorative polls like the one posted in >>2835701
shows not Ami as the highest ranking, but Usagi.

It's safe to say that your narrative or theory concerning Japan's like for "shy"/"quiet" characters isn't at all truthful, rather the answer is one that's more plausible and realistic: it depends on the character. There are some quiet characters people do not care about, and then there are loud and funny characters people love. So don't start rationalizing the fact that e.g Rei was more popular than Asuka, just accept it. If you start attacking the reality of Rei's or Usagi's popularity by attempting to undermine the people who chose them, then you are revealing yourself to be bitter and undeserving of respect from your fellow fans.

More on point, before you start throwing baseless insults, shouldn't you also apologize or do a better job actually arguing? What about the other points I've made, such as the fact that Misato was considered overwhelmingly popular in the west early on? If you're just going to pick out one thing that may be wrong and reply to that, then you're not here to debate or share in the fandom, you're just here because you want a fight, because you hate Rei for some reason.

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>>2836298
>post is still here

What if it's the butthurt mod shitposting in our thread?

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>>2836416
>>2836287
Demographics is an important thing to consider in these cases, this is why I focus on it in some of my earlier posts. It helps explain the results. There's various ways that popularity manifests itself, such as figures:
http://myfigurecollection.net/search.php?character_strict=1&character_id=1959
http://myfigurecollection.net/search.php?character_strict=1&character_id=1993

and supply is in most cases is dictated by demand. Here is the same situation for e.g Rei and Asuka:
http://myfigurecollection.net/search.php?character_strict=1&character_id=1711
http://myfigurecollection.net/search.php?character_strict=1&character_id=1553

The point I'm going to make is that there is also a fatal flaw in the comparison arguments you've made: Rei vs Asuka is not Ami vs Usagi.

While Rei always beats Asuka in the original by a very large margin, there are cases as demonstrated above where Usagi trumps Ami by a considerable margin as well. It's very unstable and depends more on who you ask, but for Rei vs Asuka the answer seems to be the same always.

Even in the figure comparison, the truth is that Asuka has been playing catchup all the time, and because the direction of Evangelion is heavily biased towards Asuka and directly against Rei, there has been a popularity change as a reaction to Anno abandoning and attacking Rei whilst glorifying Asuka. Sortting by date reveals that up until recently, Rei has been around 2-3 years ahead of Asuka in terms of figure releases.


If anything the facts simply undermine your theory, and it's not surprising since it is indeed an otaku myth mostly being perpetrated by disillusioned Asuka fans and Rei-haters alike.

Keep in mind that Rei is still popular despite the negative attention the character has been getting, only testifying further to the huge gap between them.

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There's a lot of bad things that happen in otaku fandoms like this one. Let's consider the "angry outburst" of this anon:
>>2836361
>>2836324
directed at this anon:
>>2836372
>>2836341
>>2836321

for what seems to be an attitude against Shinji that is very uncommon in these threads, but more common to find in Asuka or even Kaworu threads. What would cause this strange dislike towards Shinji, and talking about shipping which is as of late, particularly uncommon in Rei threads? It's brought up first by an Asuka fan as well, not a Rei fan.

It's not uncommon for belligerent fans to "false-flag" or pretend they are other types of fans in lieu of attacking them directly. So consider that the filename pattern of the anon attacking Shinji matches the pattern of another anon in this thread:
>>2835558
>>2835479

which is decisively protective of Asuka, whilst dismissing of Rei - in addition, this poster does explicitly not identify with being a Rei fan, as to him/her, Rei fans are not "us" but "you guys". What's also interesting is that his/her posts are unilaterally childish, straight to the point of shipping and simply insulting, yet saying nothing about him/herself as a Reifan.

Given the obvious number of Asuka fans and Kaworu fans in this thread posting recently who share in their envy of Rei and hatred of Rei's fans, combined with the observation that the amount of posters in the thread has not increased, it's safe to say that we have a falseflagger.

Asuka fan or Kaworu fan, who knows, but this posting style and image pattern matches Kaworu threads more. This is simply the evidence as we have it. The recent invasions of the Rei thread along with this is a real showcase of how low Asuka and Kaworufans can go, with mods having to clean up constantly after them.

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>>2836288
>>2836290
>Jesus, you have serious issues dude. Anon entirely defended their position and your (usual, asinine) response is to be a complete fucking retard.

Speaking for yourself here, I see. You're recognizable as a Kaworu fan who does not have the guts to stand for his own fandom. It's telling that you have to reach out to image aggregators to pick out images of Rei, since you don't have any. Even then you bother saving just the "sample" and not the full version.

But no anon, you did not defend your position at all. You claim that plagiarism means the original and copy are of equal quality in all respects, but everyone not delusional knows that isn't the case. Plagarized works are more often not very different from the original, and far worse in quality. In fact, often the artist who steals changes parts of the original drastically as to not be discovered.

All the proof we need that Asuka is a plagiarism of Kushana, is as they say, in the pudding: https://imgur.com/a/N1VKB

There are more pages here which go further into detail about how the people around child Kushana were secretly plotting against her, but let's not spam. The principal idea is conveyed enough with that page, as it is clear that Asuka's core backstory is lifted entirely from Kushana. It is the same scene, same actors and the same effect on the character.

With this, a lot of things fall into place. Anno's love for Kushana, his denied wish to create an OVA just about Kushana, and Anno considers Evangelion "his continuation of Nausicaa":
>"When I meet Anno, he sometimes tells me that he wants to create a sequel to Nausicaä," Suzuki wrote (via Akirascuro). "He considers Evangelion a continuation of Nausicaä, done in his own way. It’s amazing how much he was influenced by Nausicaä. Those short three months he spent at our office ended up defining everything about him."

together prove that Anno stole from Kushana - he copied the core aesthetic, but left Asuka a weak character.

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>>2836311
She checks out. Requesting the image that compares Rei to an Elder God.

>>2836287
>Why don't you make your decision...
wow, it's sad that you actually wrote that long incoherent rant victimizing Asuka. In the real world, people kill themselves for less, despite being beautiful, rich and successful. There are weaknesses in people that allow that to happen, and strengths which keep them sane and upstanding.

No matter how you dress it up, Asuka didn't have what it takes. Asuka has no chance other than to accept this herself, and that's what she does in the flashback, she is forced by instrumentality to reject the lies she's been telling herself (the same as you tell yourself by the way) and accept that the "Asuka" she presented was not the real Asuka. In the same way, the Asuka you present for us and defend, the Asuka you like - does not exist, and never did outside fanfiction and otaku-pandering spinoffs.

I understand it makes you angry to see Rei actually be that strong person Asuka could not be, to see Rei prevail despite far tougher odds, and to even save Asuka's worthless hides several times in the story. Rei did have what it takes, she was hardened by her environment and could therefore stand against the might of an entire New World Order, whereas Asuka had pillows sown under her arms. People react to things differently, and it's Rei's simple but effective method which shows us and eventually Shinji the way: accepting reality and working with it for your and others advantage. Rei looks at herself and sees disturbing things, but even if she's afraid of them, afraid to show others who she really is, she still accepts herself rather than lie to herself about it.

It's about fundamental character - something Rei has, but Asuka does not. It's not about how much either of them suffered, and this is proven by having Rei suffer more and still have her come out stronger.

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How do we stop the genocide?

>>2836541
You don't see the irony in calling him out for stalking those threads while doing the same yourself?

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>>2836539
>someone will defend this

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>>2836539
>1
The first image is a character owith a cloudy mountainous background. A common depiction.
Here's Shinji.

>2
Two characters facing each other - not anything out of the ordinary.

>3
Droplet effect, isn't related to Rei but is a common effect in all of Evangelion.

At least you tried.

>>2836541
That guy went to research the reasons behind the unusual behavior, and actually went out to check. Not exactly stalking, but research.

You on the other hand, are here stalking our threads, shitposting in them and pretending you're not a Kaworu/Asuka fan, being utterly dishonest. Don't you think you're being a little hypocritical?

>>2832963
Nice! Where did you get it?

>>2836637
>actually thinking forming a discord in a place as chaotic as this is a good idea
Were you dropped on your head as a baby or is the double digit IQ natural?

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>>2836704
Sorry, I thought it was a good idea so that other anons could talk to each other about rei.

>>2836704
We're having fun and you're not invited.

>>2836705
The last fucking thing this place needs is a method of effectively labelling and identifying other posters. You're literally giving a foolproof method for the shitposters to go wild.

Seriously, please don't. Discords for generals never end well.

>>2836706
You're going to fuck this place up even more and you should stop.

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>>2836709
Sorry, you don't have to join, and I understand anonymity is key here, but I felt that some anons could get together and talk about their waifus.

>>2836712
>posts something that could effectively ruin our thread forever when we're on the path to recovery
>gets told to stop and is made aware of how bad this could be
>says no, continues to be the catalyst for the destruction of these threads and posts rebuildshit
What a surprising chain of events.

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>>2836714
Sorry, I'll stick to original pictures for now, and I now understand the discord is not the best idea, so I'll stop posting the link. I apologize for disrupting the thread.

http://www.4chan.org/flash?file=megaloop3.swf&title=Megaloop+v3.0

Some of you may not know this exists, but here it is. Press #8 from the bottom.

>>2836539
>>2836372
>>2836393
>>2836341
>>2836324
>>2836298
>>2836288
>>2836287
OBJECTION!

http://i.4cdn.org/f/%5BPhoenix%20Wright%5D%20Object%20Chi.swf?inputStr=REI%20IS%20THE%20OBJECTIVELY%20BEST%20GIRL%20NOW%20HEAD%20BACK%20TO%20EVAGEEKS!

http://i.4cdn.org/f/274556_evateen%5B1%5D.swf

blasts from the pasts anyone?

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>>2836434
Uh . . . my point was that Rei IS more popular than Asuka. Can you not read?>>2836458
We aren't the same person. I'm just too lazy to save my files with new names. Midst of these pictures I've had for a VERY long time, but do continue being a total retard and assuming something as stupid as, "they save pics that are from one of the 4 major anime image databases! Must be the same person because they don't save the files that are 9999999999999999 GB large!
The only reason Asuka/Kaworu fans are even in here is because of all of the shit talking. Appreciate your waifu without being totally fucking hateful of other characters, lest people who like those characters will show up in their defense.
I'm still posting pictures of Rei, so nothing is against the rules. All of your garbage attitudes are bullshit and deserve to be argued against.
P.S. I give zero fucks about shipping. They're 14 - it isn't like that shit lasts forever even if one character are to hook up with another.
P.S.S. I've never even seen Nausica, so I have no idea who Kushana is.

>>2836787
>The only reason Asuka/Kaworu fans are even in here is because of all of the shit talking. Appreciate your waifu without being totally fucking hateful of other characters,

Sorry, but this won't ever be valid. You're here, you're queer, and these threads have been bombarded for a long time now by hateful Asuka fans.

PS: Go away.

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>>2836547
>His waifu cant even have abdominal sex
>His waifu cannot rip man's arm off with her vagina
>His waifu doesnt respawnin
>Doesnt regenerate
>His waifu isnt a god from outer space.

Step it up Asukafag, you're being pathetic.

>>2836903
Stupid concern trolling.