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As we have a retarded amount of newbies that do not know what they actually do, I thought I write something for them. Way too many people lose money in a market where this is actually hard if you follow some guidelines.

I will post this post several times over the next few days, just so it reaches out to as many of the newbros as possible. This is /biz/ and even if the recent spurge of /pol/tards and wanna/b/s is somehow disgusting, some of the newbies seem to be actual okay guys.

First things first:
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/technicalanalysis.asp
http://www.investopedia.com/university/technical/

Read it, understand it, try it. This is what will indeed make you money.
I dont want to overly shill support-graphs and triangles as the holy grail of reading graphs (MACD, bollinger bands etc. are also important), but they help you to analyze and understand the history of the graph better. Also they often confirm themself through their broad usage alone. And it all boils down to probabilities and anticipation - not prediciting the future, because this is impossible.

After this, you need to take into account news & rumors. Buy the rumors, sell the news.
It sounds easy (like it was in the case of DGB), but sometimes it is a bit harder to distinguish, as many things are bullshit and the devil is in the details. E.g. the minecraft-server of DGB: it was shilled as a big step from the supporters (always missing, that it was a 3rd party and not a big deal) and heavily under fud, when it was discovered that the 3rd party had a fucking link to a cracked version of minecraft on their site (again: never pointing out the fact that it was outside of the reach of DGB).
I dont want to shill/fud DGB, it is just the most recent example.

After that, it is just a matter of practice. It all comes down to probabilities, beein able to cut losses, evaluate informations and not getting emotional.


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Part 2/3

Then you need a set of rules, e.g.:
- set stop-limits every! fucking! time! you buy into something
- dont buy at or near a new ATH (rarely goes well) - there WILL be a dip, even if it is only a small one
- never buy, because you "might miss something" - always have a valid reason (and no, "/biz/ said its gonna moon" is not a valid one)
- do your own research will help you to distinguish shills and opportunities
- never rely on single platforms alone - reddit, twitter, bitcoin forums, /biz/, blogs, news-sites etc. are very good as a whole, but normally kinda shity on their own (stay away from zerohedge tough - tinfoil alert)
- never focus on a single currency alone; diversify in at least 2 time horizons (1-7 days short term (ST); 2-4 weeks mid term (MT); 1-12 months long term (LT)) and reevaluate them accordingly
- never!!! daytrade with more than 5% of your funds per week/month, if you are not consistently in the greens with these 5%
- if you are in a ugly situation (like having >50% of your stuff beeing stuck in a coin) and NOT in dire need of money: HOLD YOU FUCKER! The market is exploding and the burst of the bubble is months if not years away, you will at least get your money back, if you did not buy useless coins on small platforms like yobit
- stay the fuck away from yobit - starters are fine with poloniex and bittrex
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Part 3/3

IMPORTANT!
Stop-limit-orders are not a joke, they can literally save your ass! Set one at e.g. 95% of your entrance point/adjusted to the current price, when you are away from the computer or watching a movie etc. Yes, sometimes it is only a short bounce and you lose some money or profit, while the value goes bonkers afterwards - but most the time, it just prevents you from heavy losses or missing opportunities to sell your stuff at a good price, because you were sleeping/shitting/suffocating on a cheeto while wanking on your possible profits while selling on a ATH.

Now you could start to trade with e.g. an excel-sheet, where you insert the buy of a coin and a sale when you sold it. This is called "paper trading" and for just getting a feeling for it. Do this for some days, while you are learning the basics of analysis. Then start with small amounts - 10 dollar, maybe 50. If you are comfortable with that, pimp it up with stocking it up with the same amount per week or month. If you lose some, it wont hurt and if you gain some, it is a sense of achievement.

Which leds me to the last two advises, which are also the most important:
NEVER EVER trade with money which you cannot afford to lose. 100k DGB wont make the landlord happy, even if it might spike up again and get you dem delicious gains, which could lead to homelessness faster than you can imagine.
NEVER EVER lend money from relatives, friends, colleagues, banks, neighbours or the mafia just for trading cryptos. If you lose money, you not only put them in financial danger but also the relationship between you and them can get strained.
No money on the world is it worth to risk or even strain your relationship to a loved one. Especially when we talk about the mob, you are in for a world of hurts if you want to tell them that "THE COINS WILL BE WORTH MORE NEXT WEEK, I SWEAR!!!" when they come to collect their money.
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In 2-3 weeks, if you got some money out of my suggestions - maybe drop me a beer, if this post helped you:
1CQF625V4t7b8tCLcSbzK4rhmp3L6g1Kyq

Or even better: treat yourself for a new game from steam which you can enjoy.
Or take your dog to a walk in the park and get some icecream from your hard earned earnings.
Or how about going to the cinema for the movie you wanted to see for real, not pirated in bad quality on the internet.
There are many things out there to see - dont look at charts all day and dream about "lambos" or "moons". The small cash outs are what makes it worthwhile to do.

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>Tom Petty record sales are soaring this week
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>>2459126
which exchange are they on and when do I short
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>>2459126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMyCa35_mOg

Sing with me, /biz/!
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>>2459186
How can you feel nostalgia for some thing you haven't experienced.

Lovely song. Thanks anon.

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The next moon ride is approaching.

BTC and ETH are crashing to make way for the new King, rising out of the ashes to conquer all.
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>>2459057
Oh I can feel it
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It would be nice to see it sustained above 3k sats.
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>>2459057

The crash might turn out to be good thing for coins like DGB and LITECOIN since they offer good alternative to BTC; I just hope that Jared can improve his presentation a bit.

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>phone home again asking for more money from mum
>waste money on coffee, junk food, and fast food whenever I get too sad at being an ugly no friends loser who talks to no one at work and has never had female attention ever or friends for 8 years
>waste money on it every day

>tfw she rants at me but still says at the end "text me if you need more"

If you have subhuman genetics, money is everything. Being a non Chad who women find disgusting has just been a feeling that has consumed me so much. Sugar and caffeine and fat filled McDonalds burgers are all that help me cope.

Of course I'll give that shit up tomorrow. I just hate society and how the social world for ugly males is nasty, brutish, and lasts your entire life.
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just kill yourself fat bitch virgin no woman will ever want a sissy fag pussy with bitch tits who still sucks his moms tits for nigger coins ur a fucking loser just kys literally no girl will ever want you unless she can use you for your moms allowance ur a fucking fagget
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>>2459045

iktf, except no one gives me money
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go listen to some jordan peterson videos and sort yourself out faggot

venture to the underworld, return a champion
slay your dragon and wear its scales as armor

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This is a public broadcast.

Feel free to ask and if im not busy i will answer.

>one: Is the bubble popping

no you dipshits, if you picked the right places to allocate money the most ypure losing is a small amount due tonthe btc dip.

This is not remotely close to bubble tier.

Alot of new money has come into crypto, alot of BIG money. They are taking profits, and all thr nuemale coiners are panicig selling alts and btc.

When the dust settles crypto total market cap of crypto will quadruple by the end of the year.

When the eth scam is done everything will be back to normal as well.

>eth scam?

Yes ether platform + tokens + ico + newfags = inflation of value.

Ether itself might prevail but the tokens are creating an artificial ath.

Now back to btc

>btc ? That slow shit coin?

Yes , btc will fork and be fine.

Next year we will see prices as follows.

>btc 5 digits
>ether 4 digits
>ripple and nem one dollar
>monero, etc 3 digits
>lisk, pivx two digits
>iota once cent
>dgb, sia 50cent to one dollar


>new money

We are witnessing global fud.

Trump is creating huge amounts of fud. So that he can make America Great Again.

He has a plan, watch as governments buy up btc, ether and the like,watch as regulations come for businesss to transition into crypto.

crypto will be the norm by 2020.

All i can say from witnessing btc and especially alts just from last year is this.

Hodl.

I bought dgb when it was 40 sats, sia when it was 15 sats, nem when it was 50, liam when it was 15 cents. For example


Back then all i heard was.

>hurr hurr dgb cant be worth one cent, sia is MEANT TO NEVER BE MORE THAN 1/100th of a cent.

Goodluck senpai.

Advice.

Hold a couple light coin,hold a couple eth, hold at least 1 btc on the side, hold iota, hold sia, hold dgb, hold lisl, hold redd, hold bat, hold lite doge even.

Just stay away from yobit.

Use bittrex, bitfinex, and cryptopia.

If you bought 10 million sia just last year and held it you would have 100k.

Keep that in mind.
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>Alot of new money has come into crypto, alot of BIG money. They are taking profits, and all thr nuemale coiners are panicig selling alts and btc.

this
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this shit got SLID

its way more important for the sills that all the doom and gloom SELL SELL SELL fud is on the front page
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>>2459124
It's not even shills. Weak hands are just scared.

Legal experts help.
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>>2458941
It works fine for me so fuck you
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>>2458941
Who the fuck cares when you HODL.
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>>2458941
it's borderline illegal in the EU

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>Start being interested in crypto two weeks ago
>See all the mooning coins and all the enthusiasm of the community
>Decide to put 400$ into the game 3 days ago
>disgonbegood.jpg
>Crash happens, down 100$ in a day
>Everyone online "well it was fun while it lasted guys we made some good money. GG"
>mfw
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>>2458920
dip is over for now, price movements limited

should see green in a day
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>>2458933
Honestly I'm tempted to buy more right now because it's so cheap. But 1st August scares me a little.
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>>2458920
It's patterns in the market and it takes time to learn. DO NOT SELL. Also, don't listen to anyone here, they are literally shilling for themselves and their own gains, and you won't know what info to trust being new. You have to figure it out yourself.

People fail in the market because you have to do the exact opposite of what you think you should. Know why this happened to you? Because everyone was talking about how awesome crypto was and it was time to get in. This gave you, and thousands others, confidence. The price went skyhigh. Notice how everyone is freaking out now and selling? THIS is the time to buy. It's been like that throughout history. Take what happened to you and learn from it, and do not sell at a loss (in a bull market, ever).

Now is when you should be trying to find how low it is all going to go, and buy it. Ignore people panicking. It will still be hard to do, even after hearing this. It's why people fail.

When we get back to where we were three days ago and everyone was like omfg buy coin! To the moon! Get ready to sell.

Take profit and repeat.

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i haven't stopped buying yet, keep it quiet
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>>2458915
>draw random lines

wow you technical analysts sure aren't selling snake oil huh
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>>2458915
You either need to rush, or wait another 6 hours. Looks like it's going back up to 2400s again. Then, fuck knows.

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COME HERE AND LAUGH AT THE COIN FAGS LITERALLY LOSING ALL THEIR MONEY


LOL.. They thought Fake money was a good investment.."DURR SMART CONTRACTS DURR"
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They thought people needed to buy eth to make a smart contact
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Somehow I am still ok with my 179.97% monthly return
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BWAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BAHAHAHAHA STUPID FAGGET VIRGINS THOUGHT YOU WERE WOLF OF WALL STREET THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA HAVE LAMBOS AND HOOKERS TO CURE YOUR FAGGET VIRGINITIS BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY FUCK IM LITERALLY CRYING AT ALL OF YOUR STUPID MISFORTUNES HOPEFULLY YOU DIDNT LOSE TOO MUCH OF MWOMMY AND DWADDYS MONEY HASHAHDASHBDLAFDSAFNKSADF BUY SOEM MORE NIGGER AND MOON COINS THEY ARE ON A DIP GOGOGO BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>all those summerfags crying about coinbase
>meanwhile all my BTC safe from any treats on my bitcoin core full node
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Pics or it's not true.
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>>2458954
Pics of what? Is it that hard to download Bitcoin Core from www.bitcoin.org and run it instead of holding your coins in a fucking exchange? Should have paid more attention faggot.
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>>2458878
I want to buy, but cuckbase was the only fiat exchange allowed in my state. I'm registering with Gemini now. Fuck cuckbase.

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Lets do a rundown on coins. Green text the coins and just state whether you think it is a "buy" "sell" or "hold" at right this fucking minute.

No Kramer references or booyahs allowed

BTC
LTC
ETH
DBG
STRAT
RDD
MOON
SIA
QRL
CPC
POT
THC
XST
XMG


Add others if you want.
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>MOON
Buy/HODL. Bitcoin will recover imo, and this coin is still being actively developed. Dev added a new algo called lyra2m, so after this shitstorm stops, some gains will be made.
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I'll start:


>BTC: Buy
>LTC: Hold
>ETH: Hold
>DBG: Buy
>STRAT: Buy
>RDD: BUY BUY BUY
>MOON: Sell
>SIA: Hold
>QRL: Buy
>CPC: Hold
>POT: Sell
>THC: Sell
>XST: Sell
>XMG: Hold
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>>2458866
>DGB
BUY LOTS NOW
>All others
THROW IN THE TRASH IMMEDIATELY

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Is it over?
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>>2458787
Yes.
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2nd crypto bubble just burst. It's all down hill from here.

Prepare for the third bubble. 2020 will be the biggest crypto bubble yet and were in the perfect position to accumulate once everything hits rock bottom.

Crypto pumps in waves.
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>>2458787
Yes.

People who sold are still FUDding to justify their decisions and they want to buy back in even lower.

Yes, the crash is over. Support at this bottom is looking extremely strong now for both BTC and ETH.

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Just fucking buy it.
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>>2458778
>Just fucking buy it.
just fucking buy high
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lol the only coin in the green wtf
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>>2458917
Yeah.
Buy it.

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Everyone is panicking about cuckbase being down...

YOU DON'T NEED TO FUCKING SELL.

BUY LOW SELL HIGH.
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We can't buy if Coinbase is down moron
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I just registered yesterday to buy and now it's down geez
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>>2458784
>>2458823
Use mycelium

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What would you do if you had a billion dollars?

For me? I'd find a coin thats getting hyped on Twitter and /biz/, invest it's market supply worth of coin, wait for it to get full media coverage, then sell it's previous market supply.

It's really for the best.
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I'd Do lots of drugs and fuck hot chicks
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>>2458930

You'll end up dying before you spend it all.

Degenerate.
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>>2458725
Invest in real estate

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