This is the future that Liberals want?

>>743550916
Yes. Problem?

>>743550916
In the streets anything goes.

>>743550996
Why has stuff like this suddenly become a concern for the Left? I don't get it. I remember just back in 2008, nothing was like this. What happened in the past decade that all of a sudden, everything's gay pride, politically correct or else you're a fucking nazi.

>>743550916
Next thing you know they'll try and tell you semen is necessary for baby development and have infants giving their dads gummers.

>So...it's a woman with a beard?

>Or a guy with tits?

Will Kim Jong just please nuke us already!

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dont consider myself a liberal, but i am on the left. and the great thing about my beliefs is idgaf about shit like this. i dont want any part of it, which is fine, because its none of my business. theres 7+ billion people in this world, and theres always gonna be weird shit going on, but if it doesnt affect me, then idgaf. sorry your so butthurt about what a very small portion of weirdos are doing. my advice is stop paying so much attention and focus on what you do like about this world. and if you cant do that then just off yourself. get a life?

>>743551507
Then explain all your shit opinions on the economy and national security. Kids sucking on dads tit should be the liberal Democrat party symbol....it's spot on.

>>743551294
>Why has stuff like this suddenly become a concern for the Left?

It's really not. Let people be as far as I'm concerned as long as they're not hurting anyone. It's a concern for the right in the sense that it gets their panties in a bunch and they want to stop it. Maybe if they stopped giving a fuck we could move on to more important issues.

>>743551294
It's not a concern for the left, or a majority of people. Only the very small who brag about it on the internet and the equally small amount of people who get bothered by it. Everyone else really doesn't care either way since it doesn't affect them.

>>743551967
not a liberal, or a democrat. didnt say anything about my opinions on the economy or national security because there irrelevant to this topic. grasping at strawmen much?

>>743552134
This is child abuse.

>>743551967
Fucking kek man

>>743552134
yea so much for freedom and small non-interfering government.

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>>743552333
We can all agree that the creature in the pic IS a liberal though right? There's no way you can convince me otherwise and the fact that these freaks all flock to the Left, should speak volumes

>>743551967
This is one of the most beta posts I've ever seen on this website. 7 years, you're one of the most pathetic human beings to post on this shitty website

Almost, replace that baby with a nigger baby and it's perfect

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Say something bad about Muslims
>Liberals accuse me of being a racist, islamophobic redneck who is full of hatred

Say something bad about gay people
>Liberals accuse me of being a hateful, homophobic nazi

Meanwhile, no group of people hates Homosexuals more than Muslims. Fuck you idiots contradict yourselves so hard.

>>743552551
faggot shit on both sides imo

>>743552455
looks like a mentally ill but loving parent, plenty of real examples of child abuse that deserve your attention (as if thats really your concern).

>>743552856
As if they didn't take this pic in order to achieve buzzfeed and tumblr fame.

>>743552833
i'm liberal as fuck and hate both groups if it makes you feel better

by "both groups" i mean brownies and repulibaancans

i didn't bother to spell because you can't so why should i

>>743551294

It's a minority of people who are part of it and an even smaller minority that care. The whole gay, transgender, minority race spree the Democrats are on is all part of their pandering to a base. They want to be the diversity party, let the Republicans have all the white folks and they'll take the rest. This whole thing is a distraction, a political charade, a way to shove people into two camps and force feed them a narrative until they fucking believe it as though the truth doesn't matter. They do it because people eat it up and it works.

What they really don't want is any real political change, because as it stands the two parties and their benefactors are swimming deep in cash and power. So they use fringe issues to keep you distracted from the piles of piss that they've both become.

Left, right, fuck them both.

>>743550916
she should go back to the circus where she belongs

put that kid on peanut detail until it's old enough for the trapeze or turn tricks in the parking lot

>>743552613
well if i had issues, and one guy condemed me, and another just said "whatever" id prob feel more comfortable with the guy who doesnt care. Your delusional though if you think theres no trans gender conservatives. theres people of all types on both sides. just takes conservatives a lot longer to accept people. perfect example is log cabin republicans.

>>743550916
no.
that shemale is white.

meh, i mean, i don't care what someone does in their free time. so sure. I mostly just want social services that we pay for as citizens, personal freedom over market freedom and a level playing field, and i guess weed.

and foo foo dogs in sweaters. that too.

>>743552613
Probably. And I agree those kind of issues are a wedge issues and it is very low on my priority list of giving a shit about, either way. There's more important things to focus on politically or socially. Namely healthcare, the budget and taxes. So it's not an issue I'm fervent about.

>>743552838
if by "faggot shit" you mean hypocrisy then yea i agree. people gonna people

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>>743552979
Yeah I agree with what you're saying actually. But my point is, if we are being divided from shit like this, which is the better side to be a part of? When I see trans, gays, or college kids all leaning one way, I know it's time to lean the other way

>pic related, as Left as they come

>>743552134
If i as a man breast fed a newborn im going to prison but if identify as woman and do the same im celebrated. Hmm........

>>743553079

There's also people on no side at all and I'd say they are much more intelligent than the rest.

Who gives a shit what a man or woman does with their lives, if they do not harm the lives or property of others? It's their right as a human being. Are you their king? Why do you get to make demands of them? Because of your religion, of your morals? Subjective, and not for you to force on others.

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>>743553281
Stephen Colbert just achieved erection somewhere....this is exactly how he wants things to be

>>743552833
ya know it is possible to condemn regressive islamic principles without condemning all muslims. you can do the same with most religions. not saying the differences in religions isnt there. but its easy to condemn hateful christians like westboro baptist church, doesnt mean i hate all christian people. people get brainwashed by religion for all sorts of reasons, not a good reason to hate them.

>>743552927
and YOU giving attention is helping that cause. MY not giving a fuck isn't.

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Because this isn't any less weird.

>>743553250

The side of reason. Left and right are pointless. There is no ideological side that can claim to be right about everything. Take the issue at hand, examine the data, come to a conclusion, implement a solution, change as needed based on new evidence.

In this instance, how do trans people actually affect your daily life? How do gays? The likely answer is that they don't. So why is it that you care?

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>>743553561
Uhh yeah there's a difference between Westboro baptist church protesting with signs that trigger people and, hmmm, I dunno maybe something more drastic like ramming civilians with trucks or flying planes into skyscrapers?

That's it, enough 4chan for you tonight you Cuck. I'm calling your wife's boyfriend to unplug the router and put you to bed

>>743553776
They don't now, but they do more so than they did a decade ago. So eventually, they will. People being so insanely politically correct and tolerant, one day I'm gonna have a kid that's gonna have to grow up around this bullshit and that's depressing as fuck.

>>743553409
my point was just that people seeking acceptance are going to gravitate away from condemnation. read the post i was responding to. I agree with your second statement, not sure how you got the opposite impression.

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>>743550916
This is the future Conservatives want.

>>743553776
They're afraid their family member's will fall under their influence, thus turning their son or daughter gay. Or worse, it might turn themselves on. They're afraid of being ostracized the same way they've ostracized other.

>>743553993
Okay well then why do these people even care if a group/religion accepts them when the scripture literally condemns them and has done so for thousands of years? A double edged sword cuts both ways my friend

>>743553839
reading comprehensions not so good huh, i clearly stated there are obvious differences. the comparison you suggested i made, i did not make. i was obviously talking about beliefs not actions.

>>743554228
Don't worry, Big Chad is about to unplug the router and put you to bed. Maybe I'll see you in the next liberal tears thread perhaps? Goodnight pal

>>743553948

So they don't affect you? So really, you're just biased as fuck, yea?

I'll be fair, I hated and detested gays and the rest until about 5 years ago or so, when I realized two of my best workers were gay and I was invited to their wedding. They made each other happy. Who the fuck am I to say they aren't allowed that?

I'm not PC, I don't give a shit about it. But these people aren't harming anyone.

>>743551507
Another left-wing person here, shut up and stop enabling this:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/18/de-blasio-fine-businesses-wrong-gender-pronouns/
http://www.dailywire.com/news/5627/canadian-court-orders-dad-start-treating-11-year-amanda-prestigiacomo
http://www.dailywire.com/news/17756/orwellian-canadians-can-now-be-fined-or-jailed-amanda-prestigiacomo

>>743550996
People like you are fucking cancerous and should be killed

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>>743554442
>So they don't affect you?
Nice meme retard.
See >>743554529 and pic related

>>743554552
Ya'll should put a jihad on those infidels

>>743554112
i meant passive acceptance really. they just dont want to be hassled which is fine, they shouldn't be. i was positing that theres more transgender people on the left is because they find more acceptance there, less condemnation. and they realize that because they seek acceptance, they should be more accepting of others peoples differences. so they lean left. im not saying this is a problem by any means, just an opinion on why they'd be more likely to be "liberals"

>>743554442
It's depressing to think that one day I'll have a child that will have to grow up with such a warped view of his fellow man. Gays everywhere. Man-ladies in the public bathrooms everywhere he goes. Kids movies and tv shows will probably have all kind of gay shit in it. It's ridiculous and obviously you're a kiss less virgin so the thought of procreation has never crossed your neckbeard mind but it is actually very alarming how different the world will be because of all this bullshit and the future generations will grow up fucking gay as hell and it won't even be their fault

>>743554378
lmao. your not gonna trigger many people with weak strawmen and ad homs. pretty low effort trolling there bud.

>>743554880
>right after he posted this, Big Chad unplugged the router
See ya next time buddy

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>>743550916

>>743554786
You're scared about the future of your children in this world? Gee, I guess you're the only one ever to have that feeling. You must be special. Let's all stop what we're doing and think about how different the future will be, cause that's not allowed to happen.

>>743555026
Maybe they'll even listen to and watch violent movies with overtly sexual themes. Can you imagine the damage that will do?

>>743554946
nah still here, being confused by your meaningless blather and inability to form an intelligible argument

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>>743555026
Missing the point entirely. Typical liberal shit. The future doesn't have to be filled with gay propaganda that the Jews have to inject into everything. But anyone who opposes this, is now a "nazi". They're starting a witch hunt so that anyone who doesn't think "progressively" is the enemy. It's not even a meme that Jews are behind this crap.

>>743555198
Give him a minute, he's reading your wife's son a bedtime story

>>743555146
Yeah, that's not what I have a problem with. Let him watch action movies with violence and sexual themes, as long as it's Hererosexual, the way it's suppose to be. I don't even see how the argument can be made that homosexuality is natural, there's literally no way that's possible. But liberals seem to be very lacking in biological/anatomical knowledge (more than 2 genders, etc)

>>743555241
Ok, so if that's the case, what do you suggest we do as a solution? For this Jewish influence you see? I'm not an activist FOR this lifestyle. I'm just a person who sees no reason to get mad about it.

>>743555305
how many ways can you say the same stupid thing? i think your at 4 now.

>>743555477
Resist it. Don't give in and be politically correct. Don't do what the Jews want. They are physically a weak people so the only way they can achieve their goals is by underhanded shit like this. Just don't give in to them

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Anyone who defends transgenderism is scum.

>>743555483
>said anon, eagerly awaiting Big Chad's bed time story himself

>>743555571
>muh jews
Kill yourself retard

>>743554786

Who cares if future generations grow up gay? If my son ends up wanting to be gay it's his right. My father once told me who he wanted me to be against my will, and I can tell you I didn't enjoy it. Why should I continue where he left off?

The world changes. So too, must we. People will be who they want to be and you, my sad friend, cannot stop them. You thinking that they will conquer the world and spread their gayness like a disease is deluded at best.

Continue to fear everything you are told to. That fear will keep you toeing the ideological line.

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>>743555642
The Shilling Industry in full effect! How many shekels are they paying per post these days?

>>743555442
nat·u·ral
adjective
1.
existing in or caused by nature

>>743555635
thats 5, im not really impressed yet though.

>>743555678
Your father wanted you to be gay against your will? You clearly come from bad stock, I'm not gonna take your opinion into consideration any longer.

>>743555723
>not being a nazi is being a shill
Kill yourself retard

transgender identity is a confused one

society is making our children into freaks

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>>743555736
Okay fine. Explain why women have pussies and men have dicks then.

Prepare to see some real liberal mental gymnastics and logic-bending

>>743555571
So, the only way to resist this is to be anti-semetic? I can't like any jewish things whatsoever? If I have to life my life around NOT doing things because of certain people, then yeah.. they really will be controlling my life.

>>743555723
>not being a politically correct Cuck is being a nazi
I'm sure you're very popular on tumblr

>>743555014
The only people who say that "transgenderism isn't a mental illness" is people trying to "defend" trans people.
Any trans person (who isn't an extremist leftist) will tell you that gender dysphoria is indeed a mental condition and transition is the treatment. (it can't be cured, you have to cope with it)

>>743555954
No. Resists this phony wave of "progressivism" that the Jews are shoving down everyone's throat

>>743555824

My father wanted to choose my career path idiot. He also told me what I was allowed to believe.

I am not gay, I simply don't give a shit if anyone else is.

Clearly you cannot read or you are trolling.

Bad stock. Lol. What are we, horses?

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>>743550916
I dont care because it's not my business faggot.

>>743555442
Well, I'm not going to condemn gay people and then go home and beat off to my lesbian porn. That would make me a hypocrite. Or do you suggest I watch porn that incluses a hard thick cock to prove in straight?

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transgenders are mentally ill. the vast population finds them disgusting and wouldn't actually want to have families with them. their biology says no.

either pro or con transgenderism - people can fight amongst themselves over trivial arguments, meanwhile the facts and evidence gets ignored or pushed to the side.

its not about the facts, its about ideology, its about winning the argument.

>>743556058
Please read your original comment again. He should have forced you into some career path that helped you improve your sentence structure, because what you said was that he wanted you to be gay against your will

>>743551294
The left doesnt care. It's the right that's butthurt about people doing what they want and not following some religious idiot default lifestyle. Bunch of fucking jerrys

>>743556015
>Any trans person (who isn't an extremist leftist) will tell you that gender dysphoria is indeed a mental condition and transition is the treatment.
Anyone who pushes the "transition is a treatment" meme is scum.

>>743555936
evolution. gee that was tough.

>>743554552
Ok muhammad. allahu akbar captain autism

>>743555801
Just got off the phone with Big Chad, he said you can't use the internet until you finish the chores tomorrow while him and your wife are out of town

>>743551507
>innocence of youth
kek. and this why your a fucking retard

>>743550916
ew

>>743556171
Don't, they will start shit talking about how muh juuz brainwashed you.

>>743555864
wow this thread.
you have faggots pretending to be nazis, and nazis pretending to be faggots.
what an odd turn of events

>>743556053
You think I don't agree that transgeners mostly have a mental illness? I do think that. I just don't see any benefit in getting into an argument about it, and making them feel bad about it. I have more important things to worry about. And pushing for or against this "agenda" is low on my list of things that keep me up at night.

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>>743553839
>>743554228
>>743554378
>>743554880
>>743554946
>>743555198
Is everyone just gonna ignore this hilarious fucking argument

>>743556142
I've read his comment a few times to be sure, he definitely did not say his father wanted him to be gay.

>My father once told me who he wanted me to be against my will

I guess reading comprehension isn't a part of your chosen career.

>>743556142

I'm tired, but I have no idea how you got to that conclusion. Low reading comprehension?

Anyway, nobody cares about your opinions. Ultimately, you are a worthless human being who will never amount to anything. No one will remember you, you will never live your dreams, and you will never see the world become what you want it to be. One way or another all signs of you will be obliterated from memory. I hope you die alone. Goodnight, small minded man. I regret having spent some of my time entertaining your idiocy.

>>743556470
>he wanted me to be against my will
Be what? The only context we have to go off of is what he said before this, which was about children being gay.

>>743556135
The fact that Caitlyn Jenner was held up as an icon for the community, only for her to call herself a conservative who likes tradition, is a clear example of illogical thinking from one of them. No doubt about it.

>>743556219
>An anon that calls transition a meme knows more than people who actually studied psychology
Uh-huh, start telling me how brainwashed I am.

>>743556556
>her

>>743556496
This is the same type of tantrum every liberal throws when logic and reason has pillaged their emotion-based argument. You can say goodnight all you want but we know you are feverishly refreshing the thread awaiting a response, possibly even ranting about this experience on tumblr

>>743556273
theres 6, i was starting to worry about you. i take back the part about about this trolling being low effort. your clearly committed. you should work on some new material though.

>>743554056
It's better this way.

I'm a liberal btw.

>>743556284
wow what a solid argument. thanks for contributing. enjoy your pointless butthurt.

>>743556629
It's bed time Cuck boy. I don't know what's taking Big Chad so long, he's probably eating all the food you paid for in the fridge again. He's gonna need the energy before he goes upstairs and pounds your daughter

>>743556428
what argument? its a troll and me egging him on.

>>743556588
Only tranny-enablers push it. Any scientist or psychologist who calls it out for what it is receives backlash for standing against the social-justice agenda.

>>743556526
the state of being can stand on its own, you dont need context. if you really thought he was saying his dad tried to make him be gay then idk what to tell you because thats a pretty retarded inference.

>>743557048
A lot of them come back from that lifestyle anyway. It's a fad right now and only do it to get attention and a reaction out of people who hate it. Let them get it out of their system, I say.

>>743557274
>A lot of them come back from that lifestyle anyway.
You can't comeback from HRT and SRS. The damage is irreparable.

>>743554228
>That's it, enough 4chan for you tonight you Cuck. I'm calling your wife's boyfriend to unplug the router and put you to bed
toppermost top kek
probably hurt many feelings itt with that one line. nice

>>743550916
unless hes breastfeeding you I don't see why you care.

Do you stay up at night thinking about trans people? gross

>>743557490
>I don't see the problem with encouraging mental illness

>>743557392
Good. Who cares.

>>743557048
That's not how science works, it can't be biased, literally it can't, the scientific method was made for a reason.
Besides, let's say you're right, what's the alternative then you O-almighty anon?

>>743550916
I don't see why I should care or how this affects me

>>743557730
>That's not how science works, it can't be biased, literally it can't, the scientific method was made for a reason.
Tranny panderers don't care about science though. They aren't using science, only rejecting it when it the facts aren't what the politically-correct socjus crowd want to hear.

Look at this: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/health/who-transgender-medical-disorder.html?mcubz=0
>Removing the mental health label from transgender identity would be a powerful signifier of acceptance, advocates and mental health professionals say.
>“It’s sending a very strong message that the rest of the world is no longer considering it a mental disorder,”
> “One of the benefits of moving it out of the mental disorder section is trying to reduce stigma.”
No actual proof that it isn't a disorder; just removing it because of feels.

>Besides, let's say you're right, what's the alternative then you O-almighty anon?
I am right, and the solution is to research the disorder more to find a proper treatment instead of pandering to snowflakes and whiners. There was already an example where doctors made someone take Pimozide and they stopped experiencing disphoria, and when taken off it wanted to be tranny again.

>>743557896
See >>743554529 and >>743554589

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>>743551294

New word for new bullshit

>>743550916

i'm a progressive and i don't fucking want this.

i want

>moves toward renewable energy
>economic responsibility i.e. increased taxes on the wealthy
>climate protections
>demilitarization, denuclearization

i hate that the transgender community gets an equal stake in the platform.

>>743558507
If it is or isn't considered (emphasis on considered) a disorder is irrelevant, the condition stays the same and so does the treatment, they did it because of the people who yell constantly "muh mental disorder" as if it were a justification for not giving treatment for such disorder (which then again, it's irrelevant).

>I am right
Scientifically speaking that's just like any other opinion

>and the solution is to research the disorder more to find a proper treatment
You seriously think the research stopped? No, not ever, not even when we think our current knowledge is correct stops.

>instead of pandering
Again, it isn't "pandering" it's treatment

>snowflakes and whiners
>people with a mental condition
Pick one

>There was already an example where doctors made someone take Pimozide and they stopped experiencing disphoria, and when taken off it wanted to be tranny again.
You didn't provide a link to such studies, it sounds interesting though, however bear in mind that Pimozide is an antipsychotic drug used for both schizophrenia and depression, and as far as I am concerned gender dysphoria can in fact cause depression which means the situation is more complicated than it seems to be, that being said is probably far from being conclusive enough to change the current treatment, let's see if that changes in the future with further research.

>>743550916
Liberals just dont really give a shit if he does it and want muslims to stop killing him.

>>743560207
>he condition stays the same and so does the treatment
SRS isn't a treatment and has been proven to only make things worse time and time again.

>they did it because of the people who yell constantly "muh mental disorder" as if it were a justification for not giving treatment for such disorder
Nope, they did it to pander to SJWs and trannies. Like all trans-pandering, feelings over facts.

>Scientifically speaking that's just like any other opinion
Facts aren't opinions. But tell me more about how a man with an XY chromosome thinking there are a woman is sane.

>Again, it isn't "pandering" it's treatment
It isn't a treatment, it only panders to delusion, doesn't cure it.

>Pick one
Trannies are both.

>You didn't provide a link to such studies
Pic related in >>743555602 has a bunch of them from psychologists and medical groups saying transitioning isn't a cure. Here's the pimozide one you asked for by the way: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957

>>743560629
>SRS isn't a treatment and has been proven to only make things worse time and time again.
That's not up to you to decide though, besides it only makes it "worse" from your perspective, which does make sense because you don't experience gender dysphoria.

>Nope, they did it to pander to SJWs and trannies. Like all trans-pandering, feelings over facts.
There aren't facts about language because we made it up, if you want to call it "mental disorder" or not it's irrelevant because the thing itself doesn't change.

>Facts aren't opinions. But tell me more about how a man with an XY chromosome thinking there are a woman is sane.
I've never said that trans people are actually men/women, genetically speaking of course, socially? well that's a different topic. And again, I've never said transgenderism isn't a mental condition, I just said that transition is the treatment for such condition.

>It isn't a treatment, it only panders to delusion, doesn't cure it
Hey, talking about opinions. No but now seriously, the thing is that not every condition has a cure, gender dysphoria doesn't have a cure a cure but it has a treatment. (as far as we know)

>Trannies are both
Yeah makes sense, and people who have schizophrenia are just trying to get as much attention as possible.

>link
A doctor just "saying" that transition isn't a treatment (treatment and cure are different) doesn't mean shit, because those are just opinions, it's like those theists who constantly talk about how Newton was a theist, but in reality it doesn't matter who said it, what it matters is "why" someone said it and "what conclusive evidence" that person has to back their big claims.
tl;dr those are opinions, and if you're about to say again "the evidence is the study that I mentioned before" don't, I already said why it isn't conclusive enough, at least not yet (which you ignored it, by the way).

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>>743550916
They also want to forcescience everyone!

>>743554786
>everywhere
>still the statistical minority
K.

>>743562079
>I just said that transition is the treatment for such condition.
>A doctor just "saying" that transition isn't a treatment (treatment and cure are different) doesn't mean shit,
so when you "just say" something its an argument, but when a doctor does it its just an opinion? stay deluded faggot

>>743557239
>the state of being can stand on its own, you dont need context.
kek, you need to read a book or go to an english class

>>743562079
>I just said that transition is the treatment for such condition.
you know how they used to "Treat" jews under hitlers nazi germany?
do you really think the same "treatment" which is as absurd as catering to delusions to the point of permanent body mutilations or ridiculously expensive drugs with awful side effects, is at all a sensible option?

>>743554786
move to china, they don't accept this dumbing down and destruction of their countries morals/ethics to cater towards a very loud and whiney miniscule group which isn't even actually being oppressed in any way.

it's all just subversion tactics from some enemy of state, whome is the real question. though if you simply follow the money i'm sure you'll find out who soon enough

>>743550916
That seems like a terrible idea, (not for moral reasons because I don't really give a fuck) but I think the hormones would be present in the milk and that can't be healthy for the baby

>>743562540
jews?

>>743562540
>move to china,
or japan, eastern europe, southern europe, russia, all of africa. the west is ok with these freaks for now, the rest of the world still knows how to stone people though

>>743562079
>That's not up to you to decide though
It isn't, but the facts support my decision.

>besides it only makes it "worse" from your perspective
No, the evidence speaks for itself. Transgenders themselves prove time and time again why pandering to them only makes things worse.

>I just said that transition is the treatment for such condition.
And how is something that doesn't actually treat the mental disorder a treatment exactly? Mutilating the body won't fix the mind.

>gender dysphoria doesn't have a cure a cure but it has a treatment
Yeha, it's called pimozide, not HRT.

>Yeah makes sense, and people who have schizophrenia are just trying to get as much attention as possible.
Schizos haven't formed a movement forcing people to pander to their delusions. You don't see schizo pride parades or doctors trying to tell schizos that they should give into their delusions. Awful comparison.

>A doctor just "saying" that transition isn't a treatment (treatment and cure are different) doesn't mean shit, because those are just opinions
That's funny, because all your pro-trans doctors just say it isn't a disorder and just say that transitioning is treatment. Funny that...

>I already said why it isn't conclusive enough, at least not yet (which you ignored it, by the way).
Because it doesn't pander to the narrative that you subscribe to?

>>743562310
I think you don't understand, both are arguments but neither are facts. Not mine's nor the Doctor's. Thing is, I'm not the one who has to prove that a new treatment works.

>>743562477
>you know how they used to "Treat" jews under hitlers nazi germany?
How's this related to transgenderism? Those were experiments made against those people's will

>Is at all a sensible option
For a person who needs and wants the treatment? Yes.

So what u saying he can't feed his baby in public you shovenistic pig.

>>743562942

>No, the evidence speaks for itself. Transgenders themselves prove time and time again why pandering to them only makes things worse.
Wha- ah fuck it.
>>>/lgbt/
Make a thread about this in that board and let's see what trans people think about it.

What's that so-called delusion you talk about? Trans people (and with that I mean the ones who aren't seeking to push their political beliefs but the ones who just want to be treated) are very aware that they were born the sex they were (I mean, if they weren't that would make dysphoria impossible), they just want to live their lives as happily as they can possibly can.

>Because it doesn't pander to the narrative that you subscribe to?
Not at all, as you might've noticed already I'm not from the left nor from the right, both groups are wrong and right in different contexts and the extreme of both is plain stupid. That being said, is just stupid to think that a treatment has to be globally replaced with another (which is supposedly a cure) just because 1 study (that as I said before, has variables to consider) points to that direction, I said it and I'll say it again, it needs further research in order to be considered, this is not about pandering but about evidence, transition is not the one who has to prove its effectiveness because it's the only treatment there is as of now.

>>743564674
>Wha- ah fuck it.
>>>/lgbt/
>Make a thread about this in that board and let's see what trans people think about it.
You have little knowledge about this situation if you think the people in denial about being mentally-ill are gonna admit they have a mental illness and that their meme-therapies don't work. I mean, the fact that there's even a "T" in LGBT says it all.

>What's that so-called delusion you talk about?
Men who think they are women and vice-versa.

>they just want to live their lives as happily as they can possibly can
Then why are they so against any options or research that could lead to that? Why do they only want to be told what they want to hear and cry about being told they they have a mental illness and that SRS doesn't work? They are actively making their own lives (as well as others) horrible because they continue to push against real progress.

>I said it and I'll say it again, it needs further research in order to be considered
It won't get further research because the establishment is bent on pandering to trannies and silencing anything calling out the cancer of transgenderism.

> because it's the only treatment there is as of now.
Yeah, because when they scream and whine at people whenever they don't tell them what they want to hear, there can't be research into real treatment. It's how transgenderism took rise in the first place.

>>743551294
>happened in the past decade
Think about it. The growth of social media and that kind of bullshit. This stuff is nothing new. Obnoxious people on both sides are just far louder now than before and it gets shared/shoved into everyone's faces more. Nothing that is going on right now is new or different.

>>743558970
Hard to have Google track shit in 1950 tho

>there are significantly more MTF trannies than FTM
>Men are twice as more likely to be mentally ill than women
Really makes you think...

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>>743550916
>giving liberals attention
You are part of the problem.

>>743555442
>liberals seem to be very lacking in biological/anatomical knowledge
Fucking hell this shit pisses me off. You faggots need to learn what fucking gender even is. It's socially and culturally defined, and there has been multiple genders in various cultures throughout history. Gender does not equal biological sex. This shit is nothing new. Now we just have a bunch of faggots who are fucking morons, and thanks to other morons on the internet, they think that their gender is a fucking chair or something.

>>743566799
Gender doesn't exist. It is a pointless concept.

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>>743566832
>the adult in the room
bitch plz

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>>743555241
jews are behind what now?

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>>743555241

>>743552435
Say it out loud anon

>they're in there, with their bear

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>>743555241
awww look at the gullible goy

>>743566799
I am probably super left (not antifa) but why do you say there multiple genders?
There is male and female.
Some people (under 0,01 of the world population!) are probably both or neither. But that does not make them a real third gender.

How humans are male or female is a social construct (wearing pink, long hair, beard, etc.)

but what is your multiple gender thing? please explain

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>>743566832
Ben Garrison is a retard.

>>743551967
nice.

>>743550916

Add a buttplug for the baby and you're there.

sucking your dads nips as an infant is the number one cause of school shootings

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>>743567523
Literally 100% on infancts to sucked dad nips were school shooters. interesting.
here, have a cock

>>743554651
>>743556268
Nice try bubs, muslims support trannydom because they use it to hide people who are gay.

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>>743567638
here, have a nipple

>>743553250

Neither "side". It's all a political game. I'm a fiscal conservative and an everything else libertarian (NOT a Libertarian Party libertarian... those guys are halfwits). Let lesbian couples take their adopted transnigger to the shooting range to shoot a short barreled AR-15 while snorting coke and drinking their homebrewed moonshine. Leave us the fuck alone.

>>743566930
You are an idiot. Fucking learn some history about the world and the people in it. Sure he term "gender" may be new, and you can argue your ass off over what it means, but the concept of a culture defining what is or is not male/female or both/neither is nothing new.

>>743567134
There are tons of examples. Just read some history online. Ancient Mesopotamia had like third gendered sacred prostitutes. Like a holy trap priest.

>>743551294
Letting teenagers dictate what's socially acceptable. On both sides, this new generation of liberals and alt rights are retards that can only operate in extremes

>>743567998
>Ancient Mesopotamia
Those are different gender roles.
The "third gendered" prostitute was still male or female.
Androgynity or shifting gender roles and definition still do not make a real third gender.
please give me examples instead of saying "read it online".
Otherwise anyone can say: No, you are wrong, read it online!

Please, I am curious

>>743567950
Gary Johnson isn't a halfwit....

cough Aleppo

>>743556015
Why can't it be cured, there are therapies for every other kind of mental disorder, what makes this so special?

>>743567998
>but the concept of a culture defining what is or is not male/female or both/neither is nothing new.
Yeah, it's called Sex.

>>743558549
I still don't see how this affects me . I deal with trans people daily. I never have any issues and my life is still normal.

>>743568197
It was shoehorned into the gay rights movement, so they got the protection from criticism by being in there.

>>743568227
>I never have any issues and my life is still normal.
Because you pander to them.

>>743568274
Seems that is the case.

>>743550916
As a gay man, I find this picture terrifying.

>>743551375
Supposedly he can only reach California. Solves everyone's problems, really.

>>743568118
Well it doesn't sound like anything I say will matter cause you don't think there is a difference or don't agree with it. But the Hijra are some of the first that come to mind for me. I'm not going to fucking write a book for you, and I am by no means an expert, but I heard they were recently recognized in India as an official "third gender" because that's how they feel they are. What does that mean, is it right? I don't know, but the Indian supreme Court decided to recognize them as a "third gender". I guess that will mean different things to different people. Probably because of where you were born and how you were raised, like you know, your culture.

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>>743550916
america needs to be nuked.

>>743551375
>So...it's a woman with a beard?
Yes

>>743566404
They have a massive database of books you faggot.
They look through millions of books when they give the graph.
Their "Ngram Viewer" (where the graph comes from) goes back to the 1800s.
https://books.google.com/ngrams/

>>743568847
Well now you said something!
>Hijra

Those are transsexuals and they are considered a "third gender". So are many labeled in the west too.
But you said multiple genders. I thought you meant more than three. (Though I personally would say there are still only two biological sexes and various gender roles)

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>>743551294
Why don't you educate and familiarize yourself with the tenants of cultural Marxism, post modernism, and Jewish subversion.

You'll start to understand

>>743567756
I thought they didn't bother and just threw them off buildings?

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>>743569076
You have no idea what you're talking about, you fucking idiot. I'm a millennial and I'm doing just fine. I might be more flexible in the way I choose to look (welcome to the future), but I've got no debt, and am doing just fine. Holy fuck you guys are so butthurt of a few unlucky people it's not even funny. Minimum wage jobs are incredibly hard on people than they ever were before due to cost of living changes and other factors. Look it up. Don't trust the internet? Go to the fucking library. Learn the facts, times have changed both for better and for worse. But don't blame all the people that are trying to enter the workforce.

>>743569076
> the average college student
I'm in engineering, and people here look civilized.
All the grills before look very do-able, though.

>>743569178
It's usually a friend or family member that convinces them to go tranny and the governments supports trannydom to erase gays.

>>743569597
you can hear the entitlement oozing out of the comment.

>>743569066
Old Jewish law had multiple classifications. Basically was male, female, mtf trans, ftm trans, androgynous, and a "hidden" cannot tell classification. The roles each had and how they were treated were different.

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>>743570529
> citation needed

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>>743556171
I don't think it's just religious people that have an issue with it, plenty of people that are central on the political scale think these people are fucking mental too.

At the end of the day it doesn't bother me that much, they can do what they want if they're not hurting anyone (debatable for the child in this case, I can only imagine the bullying.) I still think a lot of them are fucking weird though, especially the ones that just look like a pile of shit and don't even try to make the effort to appear as the opposite gender.

I will say the people who are pretending to be a fox or a toaster genuinely are just mentally ill and don't deserve the same treatment as "standard" trans people, they're just taking advantage of the "hype" and really are pushing it imo.

>>743569597

Ugh shut up you self righteous little prick

>>743570894
I'm no religious scholar that can point you to some fucking old Jewish scrolls or shit, but if you Google "crazy old jewish law gender classifications", the first result will be this website with information on it.

>>743552134
>let people be as far as I'm concerned as long as its not hurting anyone

When that kid grows up and sees this picture and is shunned for friends and social structure because he sucked on big titty dad when he was a bairn and everyone knows because the internet forever, what's the excuse then?

Because OPs pic is not the new norm, its the fucked up flavour of the month. It's not like that guy is actually feeding that kid, he's just fulfilling his own sense of self entitlement at the sacrifice of an infant's dignity with no regard for how it might ruin him later in life.

But he's not hurting anyone today, so its fine. When it comes out in 20 years that he scarred the kid for life, who cares because there will be a whole other blame game to play at that time.

>>743556171
Left-winger here, you're a fucking moron.

>>743571221
>I will say the people who are pretending to be a fox or a toaster genuinely are just mentally ill and don't deserve the same treatment as "standard" trans people
Standard trans people are as mentally-ill, why do you pretend otherwise?

>>743571474
I don't, I personally think they are mentally ill as well just not on the same level, it's not as ridiculous.

>>743550916
Not for my race, other races can do whatever.

>>743550916
pls fucking nuke this world.
a dude with tits brestfeeding his child?
I will pust the red button if i can

>>743550916
Back to >>>/pol/ loser

>>743556102
Remember this comment when your tax dollars are spent supporting that kid who cant finction in life and will die in welfare because of the emotional scarring his father gave him in his greedy lust to be relivant instead of investing in better educational structures for your kid that might be raised just fine and well balanced by struggles to get ahead because there's no money in the community to encourage positive growth because it's all being spent cleaning up despicable messes like OP.

>>743571374
>guy
>he's

>>743571701
>father

>>743571530
The extent to which they have pushed to have their delusions pandered to instead of treated is fucking insane.

>>743555635
Lol

>>743571793
Mainly my only issue is when they act like degenerates, i'm sure there's plenty of trans people out there that just keep it to themselves and at least attempt to look passable.

I have the same view of gays, just keep it to yourself and stop telling everybody your gay every 5 minutes or demanding special treatment, for the most part nobody cares whats between their legs honestly.

>>743571755
Fine, "it".

>>743550916
Clearly on hormones.
Breastfeeding.
Smart!

>>743550916
>This is the future that Liberals want?

Yes.

I want him/her/whatever the fuck to be able to live their life without hatred and prejudice.

I want straight white guy and his straight white wife to live THEIR live in exactly the same amount of comfort.

I want the black couple to be happy and raise a child without fear of the police.

I want the interracial couple to be safe from the aggression and mindless hate of a twisted minority.

There is not a limited supply of rights. Giving a trans person simple human rights does not take it away from anyone. A gay person having the right to marry does not mean that straight people have lost anything.

I want a future where all people are given dignity and respect regardless of what sex they are or were, what colour of skin, what gender of their partner.

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>>743553650
But that hasn't gone viral and isn't celebrated.
The key part of OP's post is that the left embraces and celebrates degeneracy.

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>>743572083
>I want a future where all people are given dignity

>>743572083
Convenient how you dont give a fuck about the rights of that infant.

That kid will not grow up properly. But who cares because that hairy faggot's tits have rights and feelings that matter.

>>743572083
They already have respect and rights in most first world countries though.

The only time this changes is when they act like degenerates, but you would point out any normal persons degeneracy too.

>>743571915
>i'm sure there's plenty of trans people out there that just keep it to themselves and at least attempt to look passable.
Even the less vocal transpeople still are caving into their delusions. They not be as vocal, but they'll still get mad about people not playing along.

>>743571996
No, it's a woman. A woman who thinks she is a man is still a woman. So, "her" and "she".

>>743572000
Trannies aren't known for making wise decisions.

>>743572083
>I want a future where all people are given dignity and respect
Well for that to happen you need to stop transgenderism.

>>743569597

I was born in an extremely poor family with minimal education prospects and expectations of a future where I would be living on government handouts.
Unlike your entitled arse who chose to protest capitalism while drinking a starbucks coffee, I chose to work and to work hard. I get up at 6am, I don't stop for lunch breaks and I don't ever finish before it gets dark. I get down in the mud, I do heavy lifting, I do my job properly and I don't stop til its done and the customer is happy. I come home looking like a coal miner bukkake session 5 out of 6 days a week.
I'll have my own home paid off before I turn 35 and retire by 45. I did this through hard work, something you could easily do if you had a spine and even a minute amount of willpower.

TL:DR - Fuck your entitled arse, learn to put some effort into life.

>>743550916
No, it is not.

But most importantly, idgaf because it's not me in the picture, nor does that weird shit impact me in any way. So why should it matter to me?

>>743572596
>another retard pretending it doesn't affect anyone
Read the thread, SJW.

>>743572488
Lie some more, fucking nazi cunt.

>>743572488
Do you just happen to have tuesdays off or is your work really not as hard as you say?

>>743550916
Yes.

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More liberal logic

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>>743550996
Died for "what she believed in"

>>743572834
I actually wouldn't mind seeing idris play james bond but not because he's black, I just like him as an actor.

The blatant hypocrisy and double standards are astounding though.

>>743572766
0/10. Practice your bait.

>>743572772
Its 9pm here. And the work is hard, but I have to admit that doing it for 10 years does make some days fly past on autopilot.

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>>743572952
same
it just enrages me that a white actor in an ethnic role is 'whitewashing,' but an ethnic actor in a white role is progress

>>743550916
Hey kid, your mom is so ugly liberals call her beautiful.

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>>743553421
And all the rest of the late show fag lefties

>>743550916
Great, for sure that woman is not giving her baby massive amounts of testosterone through her contaminated breast milk because "muh gender".

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>>743553650
Lets do the math by you calculations a costume verses a circus freak, fake verses real you say they are = nope

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>>743573317

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>>743553839
Riots protests burning flags burning buildings and burning cities is not the right wings way, terrorism is left libby tard. Nice try with the fake liberal news feed...

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>>743573334

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>>743554056

>>743573317
Isn't forcing nationwide support for lgbt people just as bad as not supporting them? I though you were allowed to have your own beliefs in america?

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>>743554102
Its not influence, its literally no choice force or manipulation. Put it away shut it down zip it up. For the record most with morals have concerns for NORMAL moms breast feeding in public...

>>743554651
For real

>>743551507
Actually fucking die lol you're retarded
>>743556284
This

>>743555241
Man shall not lay with man, the jew bible and the jew LORD Jesus

>>743552727
You can go fuck yourself retard

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>>743555723
Yes fight our muslim war with the liberals against israel. Reject...

>>743555882
Welcome to obamanation, they gay usa, the circus

>>743550916
Why do you give a fuck you pathetic cuck snowflake?

>>743573317
Mentally-ill people shouldn't be allowed to serve in the military. If bipolar and schizophrenic people can't, neither should trannies.

These people are degenerates and the reason why we should be stopping it is because degenerates will always be degenerates. If we let this stuff be normal then degenerates will be pushing even further strange things. Things that are absolute extremes in cringe threads will become social norm under the pretense of acceptance that eventually society will collapse after our degeneracy destroys society when no one can function like a decent human being anymore.

>>743573820
Found the SJW

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>>743556247
Yes animals and jungle, yes yes. I see man animals breast feeding their offspring all the time. Damn, animals literally have a higher iq than people these days. You are mental over there with the fags.

>>743556556
Liberal at heart always say to the conservatives "im conservative" its ok, talk is cheap but what is the walk like?...

>>743573943
Just because you faggots can't worry about your own damn selves and get on with your life. Bunch of pussy-ass fucking babies. MRA, SJW, alt-right, etc, etc...you are ALL faggots and all need to get your shit together.

>>743574125
>Just because you faggots can't worry about your own damn selves and get on with your life.
Sounds like trannies and their apologists, forcing their mental disorder on the world. Kill yourself retard.

>>743574165
Wow you are unbelievably fucking pathetic. Hope mom's basement is warm in the winter.

>>743550916

some would say that trannies should be killed

others would say that they're right

>>743568906
Of course, wtf there is no way a man (real man) can either give birth or breast feed. No way, oh but they wish. Its only the job of the female. "Thats feminist" no its a fact.

>>743571347
If you google donald trump it may say gets shot. So what...google is not a dictionary or history book kid, its an opinion based web of truth and lies. You have to be smart enough to see through the false opinions.

>>743574241
I don't live in a basement, sweetie. I don't like on mummy's money like you do, wealthy barista with no real hardships in life.

>>743573468
Use race where you said lgbt and reread it.

>>743550996
And that's why you won't win another major election.

>>743574280
Yea "terrorists" would want to kill by massive truckloads, but terrorists would kill by massive truckloads if the shoe was on the other foot...

>>743574338
at least not now. wait a few decades and you can be and do anything you want - no more gender roles.

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>>743574765
Shhh dont tell the crazy they are crazy, let them stay crazy so they think we do not see the crazy...

>>743550916
HOLY FUCK! Liberalism is mental disorder!

>>743574891
You can wait as long as you want too, Man does not have a womb to store a child now, and will not have the proper equipment then. It will never be right, they will try but will always fail. Intelligent design trumps mans wants.

>>743562562
>>743572000
I was thinking just this.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_Repression_in_Savage_Society

/threda

>>743575046
You didnt know?

>>743556556

Caitlyn Jenner used her media influence to promote herself as a "icon" meanwhile the trans community hated her.

>>743575046
>HOLY FUCK! SJWism is mental disorder!
Fixed

>>743575153
And they know it too, thats why i say its forced confusion and manipulation not the normal confused experiment fad or trend. #trending

>>743575210
>her
>herself
Also who cares what the trasn community thinks. The very fact that there's a trans community in the first place is a problem.

>>743550916
Liberals think the majority should bend and cater to the less then 2% of the population.

>>743575279
Glad my generation was taught to think for themselves and not copy like a socio, we are the last of us...

>>743574674
We both know that's not the same thing at all though. I refuse to believe even 10% of people in first world countries genuinely care about race (at the very worst they're probably prejudice but that isn't really a bad thing as long as you keep it to yourself, people are tribal by nature and always have been.) I absolutely believe it's a small minority of people that would actually choose to harm someone just because of their race.

I also think it's unfair to just say lgbt because that includes a wide range of people that just get labelled that when they don't really count, people that think they're toasters aren't on the same level as genuine gay/trans people. As weird as I think they are I wouldn't want to harm them just for being weird.

>>743572834

fake news. Craig is still bond.

Am a progressive and live in Europe. I believe in capitalism but think it should be regulated in certain places as to not lead to crony capitalism and an oligarchy.

I do not understand the 6202903 gender bullshit or this retarded shit of a man breastfeeding a baby (still not sure if it’s real or a meme).

Certain leftists have really gone off the deepend and those are the ones conservatives hate and I 100% get it.

However most progressives aren’t like this. It’s a very vocal minority.

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>>743575325
Wetarded libturds numbers are growing. You should check the local high schools and colleges teachings or syllabus' out and watch how confused the upcoming generation is just from simple tasks like walking finding a class or doing homework.. google how did homework ever get done before google durp

>>743550916

Why do righties give so many fucks about what other people do? Focus on your own damn life.

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>>743575325

>oh the irony

>>743575280

you're a very sad excuse for a man.

>>743550916

I don't have a problem with this.

The growing problem is people telling me I'm evil for not being like this myself. Why am I a bad person just for being white and marrying someone white and having kids with them?

>>743574509
Your an idiot.

>>743575629
Coming from someone that obviously thinks people that actually work and better their lives should give it all to those that are too lazy and stupid to do the same and expect more free shit.

>>743575602
Why do trannies force everyone else to pander to them instead of focusing on their own damn life?

>>743575684
Nah, if I was I'd be like you.

>>743576004
>I don't have a problem with this.
Then you are a part of the problem.

Thats fucked

Fuck you conservative faggot we have your statues and everything (202) 560-0105 give me a call so we can taco bout it.

>>743550916
we do not want every single couple to be like this, we just want couples to be able to be like this, without facing constant fear of hate crimes

>>743550916
I WANT the Chinese/Russians to invade to take care of shit like this.

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>>743551318
>breast milk is the same thing as semen

>>743576593
>we just want couples to be able to be like this
You want babies to drink unhealthy breast milk addled with testosterone?

>>743576593
How about just don't fucking do it in public and have pictures taken of you breastfeeding your baby while on hormones?

>>743575585
I know what your talking about. With the lowering of the educational standards over the years, we have gotten to the point where idiots are teaching the youth to be idiots too.

>>743551507
this, stop being such a whiny bitch

>>743577222
Yep, pretty much.

>>743577347
Enjoy going to jail for not calling Steve a "she".

>>743550916
>trans dad giving succ
beuoty!!

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>>743553250
That looks shopped, badly

>>743550916
so its a chick who wanted to be a man but also wanted to do the one thing that is known as a women thing and that is have a child while breast feeding him..... okay.

>>743550916
Our future will look like it does in starwars with aliens and shit