drawthread sleepy edition

>>742654627
>drawthread
>triggered filtering edition

ftfy

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im telling you, i can only draw at 4am. this is insane.

>>742654587
no prob!
>>742654594
>>742654788
>still trying too hard to get someone annoyed
>angry at nobody for no reason
>mfw
back to drawing

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if theres any artists left who want to take requests

draw this guy doing anything you want him to do

>>742654816
Ive been there man. I draw my best when im tired. Roughly 3-4 hours before i pass out and it slowly goes down from there

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>>742654114
draw a lot for a few years, git gud, and always hide your power level

>>742654816
>still trying too hard to get someone annoyed

>implying again

>angry at nobody for no reason

>calling out the triggered drawfag that has no ground to speak

ftfy

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>>742654897
im not tired thanks to my AC, but having nothing to do in the morning and letting all the creativity flow at night sucks. i wonder if i conditioned myself or something
>>742654875
wait one second
>>742654978
so are you going to do something that'll trigger me or what. im sorta on a time limit

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It is my sister's birthday tomorrow, can someone draw her in a flattering pose?

>inb4 not your personal army

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>>742654816
this tbh

i hate how i'm only ever inspired at 12 to 4 am

any shortstack requests?

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oh..
oh how we have fallen

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>>742654968
Hand over your shirt bucko

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pyfH3oj_eg
>>742654968
nice shirt
>>742654943
where'd your hat?
>>742655041
dig holes with me

>>742655039
Can I request this cat girl thing you drew riding a dick, also showing the front of her body?

im trying to talk to an online therapist but it's taking too long to connect and i think it's just kiked anyway.
one time hips messaged me when i was like this but offered no advice anyway
i don't know what advice would help, i can't think of anything i want to hear
i can't afford a real therapist i was using one of the free ones
maybe i should do somethuing crazy and get myself admitted to a hospital, that'd be "free"
my online friends don't even pretend to care.
i've never had a real friend

>>742655039
Draw a scared schoolgirl.

>>742655020
>so are you going to do something that'll trigger me or what. im sorta on a time limit

I mean I already triggered you pretty hard. You basically filtered my request. And when I call out you on it you spew out unfunny and unoriginal jokes.

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>>742655097

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>>742655077
Take it.

>>742655097
Thank you.

>>742655020
Naw i think i read somewhere you're most creative when you're tired or getting tired? But idk i cant even remember if i actually read that or i told myself that for so long i thought i did

But i know MANY people that are the same... And otherwise. I bet if you got a better sleep schedule down, it would change it up. Maybe take on some deadlines (real or not) and try and force yourself to em. Whether you like the subject, its coming out good, or not. Thats what ive been told but i have yet to really put it into practice

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>>742655274
Hey, I need to talk to you later on.

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>>742654627
May someone draw Aigis from Persona 3 for me?

>>742655218
lol your request is gay bitch you mad? you mad bitch?

your taste in everything sucks your fetish is nasty bitch this is why no girl ever love you no girl ever touch you, you gonna die a virgin jackin it to mama peach smegma faggot shit like a bitch lmao

>>742655274
What's with all this talk about shirts around you

>>742655153
Thats not what you open up with to make friends. And if you want advice, you spit it out and not wait for someone to ask you whats wrong.

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>>742654968
das a nice shirt
>>742655254
>hat returns
balance has been restored

oki gonna spend the rest of my night trying to learn line weight thank you for the input guys

>>742655353
>not even worth a proper reply

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>>742655039
Shortstack muchaburriko on the right getting her tits slapped, making her bra come loose while they jiggle around

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>>742655097
lead the way to the land of the holes bossman

>>742655274
Give me that shirt too

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>>742655274
>>742655254
Requesting your social medias

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>>742655041
things are bad, can they get any worse?

>>742655484
you're not capable of a proper reply. all you have is crying like a bitch and reposting your absolute shit request of disgusting garbage

when you gonna kill yourself?

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>>742655389
I have a new shirt, so it's a new me, the old me is dead with no shirt.

>>742655423
Thank you.

>>742655534
https://minecraft.net/en-us/

>>742655419
i do i am very talkative but no one says anything productiev
i don't know what to do
will a mental hospital be worthles too? i don't want to hear a doctor yap at me about sportsball and marriage and religion and being friends with retarded people

>>742655153
You'll just scare people away if that's your introductory line. Plus, the fuck are you doing going to a therapist.
You need a psychiatrist not a therapist, therapists exist for minor trivial problems on life like "My gf broke up with me and I'm sad".
Next tier is Psychologist where you go if you have an actual psychological issue, next tier after that is Psychiatrist where you got if you have some fucked up shit in your head words alone won't fix, which is where you should be going.
Next tier would be a Neurologist, but that would mean there's something really fucked up in your brain. Most likely you don't need one of those.

>>742655571
>still not worth a proper reply

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>>742655525
OKAY!? Anything elsE?

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>>742654875
>
>>742655218
what image can i use in order to convey how bored i am of seeing the same triggered joke emanating from this hellsite
the least you can do is switch up your tactic. you did it with those ugly mama ""peach"" pieces. maybe then ill feel an emotion
>>742655307
problem is that i can't come up with a scenario. kinda dont feel like drawing in the same perspective or pose every time, but my brain can't come up with stuff quickly enough.
i also think it's because im not focused in the morning. idk
>>742655353
>>742655571
>t. an actual triggered kid
>>742655314
i approve of this image wholeheartedly

>>742655746
>still not killing yourself

>>742655647
Subbed followed requested stalked thanks bro

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>>742655534
http://4chan.com/
>>742655647
my boy'..... is shirtless...!!!!!

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>>742655503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqAYMZSOQao
we'll get to hell eventually

>>742655808
THAT SHIRT TOO, WISE GUY.

>>742655657
Guy. If you want advice, say it straight. State your issues without making a mile long post. Greentext maybe.
You shoud talk to several professionals in the field though. Just a piece of advice. I was once prescribed an allergy medicine........ That i ended up being allergic to.

But just to say it now, as someone with enough shit on their plate, i have no interest in being your friend. I can talk a little before bed but thats it.

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>>742655966
Posts later: Anything else?

>>742655813
>what image can i use in order to convey how bored i am of seeing the same triggered joke emanating from this hellsite

Well it is not a joke but a valid point. But I am sure you can come up with some shitscribble and another unoriginal joke.

>maybe then ill feel an emotion

I mean you pretty much felt an emotion when you were triggered enough to filter me.

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.made this using a website. Think of the galaxies, the stars in space, the beauty it holds. Same poster as jojo and db super drawings.

>>742656094
And a diet coke. That'll be all sir.

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>>742656096
sorry, too busy with improving on my art rather than wallowing in a pool of my own regurgitated smegma to make more shitscribbles. have an oldie-but-goodie
>you pretty much felt an emotion when you were triggered enough to filter me.
"But I am sure you can come up with some shitscribble and another unoriginal joke."
>>742656099
i like it. feels mysterious to me..

>>742655813
I cant link to em on mobile, but trust me, there are PLENTY of sites just for providing subjects, poses, ideas, tips, tutorials, challenges... You just have to look.
I feel you though. I struggle with poses lately and its hard getting out of the comfort zone... But honestly, the best course of action is to practice realism. Practice it and practice it.

However, one of the biggest bits of advice i give, is to just have fun with it. Dont try and get a certain line right over and over and over and over.... A line fucks up? Go with it. Keep working on that drawing instead of scrapping it. Be loose, have fun.

Honestly, thats how i got out of a major funk i was in a while back. Saw a whole new world.

You got this dude. Just takes time.

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>>742656094
My boy!!!
Are you... cold...?????

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>>742655543
do not underestimate suffering
there is always room for more

>>742655921
how deep must we venture

>holy shit im drunk

>>742655905
Was worth a shot. Oh well. Lookin forward to when you decide to share one day

>>742656377
>drunk

then you must do what any drunk girl should do

show tits

>>742656348
aw, why thank you, anon. i'll take this to heart!

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>>742655149
didn't feel like this character is appropriate for lewd but the second part of this request appealed to me

>>742656279
>reposts a shitscribble and the same joke with little to nothing added

No surprise there and it is amazing how you don't even deny it anymore. You must have reallly been reliefed that after filtering me you would no longer see something that it is going to trigger you.

>>742655813
so cute, thank you!

>>742656026
i already wrote most of it a whil ago here
https://inkbunny.net/journalview.php?id=283196
i was a lot calmer then, when i wrote that
but all those things i wrote make me feel like i'm, going to have a heart attack sometimes

i feel very alone and misunderstood
i wish i didn't need people at all but i do

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>>742656231
Run, and if you turn around I will fucking know.

>>742656279
>have an oldie-but-goodie
You're but a babbu. This isn't an oldie.

>>742656461
Wishing you the best man! Everyone can improve if they put forth actual effort.... Cough....
Just keep drawing. Draw mindlessly and try to enjoy it...... And then try to practice fake (or real) deadlines. You'll get there man. I believe in ya

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>>742656377
>how deep...?
>stop?
I don't understand
I was just gonna keep digging until my shovel broke
>>742656612
you a pepsi guy eh?

>>742656612
Sir.
I ordered a diet coke.

>>742656473
>not wanting to breed this cub
what is wrong with you?

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>>742656460
this god forsaken place is not worthy of my skin

>>742656660
....my shovel is broken

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gross my doggo just barfed all over my bed
>>742656473
she cute af tho

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>>742656509
yes, im very reliefed to not see a hairy "woman".
anyway, ill continue to draw and improve like an artist usually does.
>pic related. you can improve. you dont need to be so angry because of shitty people who said shitty things, anon
>>742656533
no prob!
>>742656632
>filename
technically you're right, but consider the fact i have 80+ files now
>>742656649
thanks anon! i wish the same to you!

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>>742656370
I'm a little chilled.

>>742656810
>consider the fact i have 80+ files now
Pathetic.

>>742656879
i cleaned my folder out about three times already, calm down.
i would've been at ~190 images. i cant stand that clutter

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>>742656377
if only there was some way to turn back time, if only there was... something... anything... anything but the void that stands before us....

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>>742656735
>give shovel->eva

>>742656810
>yes, im very reliefed to not see a hairy "woman".
Thanks for proving my point.

>anyway, ill continue to draw and improve like an artist usually does.

>something that only people who are actually born with it can do

>you dont need to be so truthful about learning to draw because of other artists who said things based on their experience

ftfy

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>>742656677
Die.

>>742656660
No.

>>742656810
Just stop with your tirade about one repeat requester, it's tiring to watch you.

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>>742656607
Okay, im gonna be honest, i didnt read your post because its late and im tired.
But
Listen here
Open your ears

Ive been in your shoes. Ive wanted to be alone but also wanted to be with people.. And then being with those people, i look at them, and i feel like im not worth hanging around them. I saw myself as trash... Worse than that. I still do!
But listen. You have to talk to someone. Family or a psychiatrist or anything. Write shit down to vent. Anonymous vent on a random board.
But DONT try to force yourself to forget your issues 24/7. Dont try to distract yourself with youtube videos or games or whatever.
Use this frustration. This sadness, this anger, this disappointment... And fucking use it. Get up and work out. Do yoga. Walk to check the mail. Clean up your room and around the house. Open doors for people and greet your neighbors. Pick up a hobby. Eat properly and shower well.
Look back at yourself and laugh. Get revenge on yourself for feeling like shit and turn everything around.

The way to make friends is to put yourself out there... But keep it your true self. Be honest. Work your way to who you want to be. Life is long and there is plenty of time.

You got this.

>sorry for the long tired rambling
>and sorry if what i wrote is far from your issues haha... It slowly became a pep talk for myself honestly
>but keep going. Keep walking.
>talk to people. Seek help. Drink plenty of water.
>man i gotta sleep

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>>742656863
Well then why dwont wou cwome on ower???
(・ω・)

>>742657108
I wouldn't take what other artists say serious.
There have been multiple cases where certain artists especially on /ic/ and other boards have given false or demotivating advice on purpose.

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

Anons, you are all amazing people. Bless each of you.

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>>742656712
cubs are for hugs, not fugs

>>742657131
you're a normie don't give people advice again
and i don't want to hang out with people not because i'm trash but because they are. they never say anything i can even remotely relate to ever. like you right now.
hell they barely say anything at all, it's liek they don't have thoughts. i talk to myself with my online "friends", they listen and give me the NPC responses "just be yourself" "go for the goal" "did you watch breaking bad"
fuck you for geting my hopes up

nevermind it's my fault actually
4chan is normie central, you're where you belong and i'm the outlier
sorry just passing by guys i'll leave you to it

>>742657322
"A witty saying proves nothing." -Voltaire

>>742657108
Not the other guy youre talking to but listen here faggot. Anyone can draw, just the speed in which you learn is extremely different. For some, they will be fucking amazing at 12. For some, its 30. 40. 60. 80.
Any fucking age. Why?
Because its about whether you want to learn or not. This applies with any creative passion. Music? Gotta learn that shit. Writing? Gotta learn that shit too.
Just because you can write poems or write a decent short story, it doesnt mean its good.
And what do you do?
You keep doing that thing. You keep working on it. Cant draw a straight line? Dont! Thats the wonders of art! You can do fucking anything! Grab a handful of peeled crayons and rub it around on paper.
Add a little here and there.
Its fucking something and someone out yhere will love it.
And you work and work and work on that.
You get better.
You learn.

Because nobody is BORN with a talent unless it literally involves your body psyically like singing or sports... And even then, you can train for those too!

Dont try to drag others down because YOU dont want to put in the fucking effort to TRY and LEARN.

>i need to fucking sleep

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>>742657205
Owokay, maybew I will.

>>742657406
>"did you watch breaking bad"
I mean did you??

>>742657108

do you actually believe anyone is born with the skills to draw? cmon anon

drawing is 100% effort! talent only determines how quickly you master the skills. anybody can become a great artist if they put in the time and have a goal to work toward.

if you aren't making a serious effort then you have nobody to blame but yourself when you give up.

>>742657406
you don't want advice. you want people to validate your bad attitude toward life which is why you're probably never going to be happy. sorry, anon. but if it makes you feel any better, you can always jack off on anime figures and play violent video games to try and fill the void in your heart

>>742657406
Good luck out there. Even if you refuse to listen to me, just dont go giving up. And if you think your friends are trash, find new ones instead of whine about it. Nobody is going to go and coddle you and hold your hand. Your life is your own. You are responsible for what you do.

>>742657566
>Because nobody is BORN with a talent unless it literally involves your body psyically like singing or sports... And even then, you can train for those too!

How to contradict your own post in one sentence.

>Dont try to drag others down

I don't drag other people down. I just tell people how it is.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXd7p6eTWS0

>>742657108
>t. lazy thread lurker shifting the blame
>>742657130
but it's fun

>>742657746
>do you actually believe anyone is born with the skills to draw? cmon anon

Yes I do. Certainly explains why some people are able to do it and others are not.

>drawing is 100% effort! talent only determines how quickly you master the skills. anybody can become a great artist if they put in the time and have a goal to work toward.

kek

>if you aren't making a serious effort then you have nobody to blame but yourself when you give up.

As I have mentioned before, some are destined to become someone and others don't. You can try hard enough to change things, but it is not gonna work at the end.

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>>742655153
you people who are so sad are all the same

You need to realize that there is no grand mystery of life and that everything sucks forever and it's never going to get better. Now ruminate on that for a few decades until the bitterness of it all drives you to suicide like it does to nearly 1 in 3 of all men.

no one would blame you if you killed yourself, trust me. life sucks and people are jealous of the dead.

>>742657900
>t. lazy drawfag shifting the blame and being in denial

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>>742657608
EW FUCKING FAGGOT

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Doing requests, must have reference material.

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>>742658066
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FHEeG_uq5Y

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>>742658084
draw wonderloli tied up and abused

>>742657964
>extremely self-defeating attitude
>making absolutely no effort
>dismissive of anything said to him instead of actually listening
>refusing to acknowledge that drawing is a technical skill that anyone can master

this is why you don't succeed anon... and it applies to much more than just drawing . . .

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>>742658030
>gets called out
>knows he cant draw
b-but these artists told me im shit!1
>gets called out again for not trying to improve
n-no, it's all fake!! stop shilling for artists!!1
>>742658152
the art of seth mcfarlane's shows make me want to physically puke on every item in my house

not the guy you normies have been arguing with but i'll try to write this out real nice and easy for you to understand
you know the level cap in normie favorite game of the year fallout new vegas? of course you do, you're a normie
well imagine everyone irl is born with a different level cap in regards to skills and arts and shit. retards and niggers are stuck at level zero and jews have max level btw

anyway getting more serious now
basically you can buy the DLC to increase your level cap, that'd be like going to college or studying art books in your personal time.
but the thing is, the DLC was ruined 100 years ago, content from it was removed.
people in the 1800's had DLC like leonardo da vinci apprentinceship to teach them how to paint. DLC in 2017 is liberal arts college where you learn about human feces and transgenders.
the game is rigged. even if you somehow were born with the default max level cap (u weren't i bet your max level is 15 even with the DLC) you'd still never become a da vinci because he's dead, all the good teachers are dead, all of the books have rotted and decomposed and are incomprehensible or locked in a glass case at a museum, if no one can teach you how to draw properly then you can't get the bonus DLC level cap and you're stuck with the vanilla game's levels.

if what i say is untrue then why does no one paint at renaissance level skill anymore? you have no answer to that

>>742657798
>and even then you can train those too

I was implying those that are born with missing limbs, for example. Because even with prostetics, getting tackled on a football field likely wont go well.

But ysee, we're talking about creativity and art. Not sports. With art, you could do literally anything. Really. And dub it art. Would people agree that a moldy cheese is art? No. But to you, that could actually be something! And in that case, i would suggest looking into photography.

>i tell it how it is

However, thats not constructive. Read over my post again.
There are people that put years and years into study. If you want to "tell people how it is" with their work, you first need to know wht youre talking about. If you dont know how to properly draw something or what goes into anatomy and the body, do you really think that you should be advising anyone? And even if you did, you would realize the time and effort and appreciation there is for art. Hell, as a veteran, sometimes you can tell the artist' level from just a few simple lines...... But there is always so so much more to a person

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jack morrison doing one request this thread, also long time no post!

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what
what is this thread?
can't we all just agree that
>practice=gud
>no practice=no gud
>>742658084
what does your shirt say?

>>742658222
>extremely self-defeating attitude

Still there after all these years of depression.

>making absolutely no effort

>putting in effort into something that is not gonna work anyway

>dismissive of anything said to him instead of actually listening

>How dare I question the advice given to me based on my own personal experience?

>refusing to acknowledge that drawing is a technical skill that anyone can master

>refusing to accept something that is simply not true

ftfy

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>>742658443
of course not! it's obviously been proven that people are born with incredible skill that are somehow not shown throughout their infancy/childhood! it totally explains why i can't draw and other shitty people said i was horrible at art instead of trying to encourage me to try harder and improve over time in order to be satisfied with my end results like everyone else who does art!

>>742658244
You're a fucking idiot go study up on leonardo da vinci and picasso and all those wonderful artist of the past and how they viewed their own artwork.

The only thing that has changed is how we consume media and how easy it is to get materials and how much more accepted artist are.

You tried to make a point but you are uneducated and just picked the name of a well known creator.

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>>742658244
>if what i say is untrue then why does no one paint at renaissance level skill anymore? you have no answer to that

there are quite literally thousands of people who paint at and above the level of the renaissance "old masters". Paper is as cheap as it is plentiful, paints and acrylics and computers have made painting so easily accessible they teach toddlers to paint in schools. Anyone can be a painter, but not everyone has the will or the drive. Talent is a pursued interest, nobody is born talented.

>>742658244
Holy shit you're one autistic fuck. So the game is rigged, why even play? Everything is horrible, nothing is fair. Fuck the whole thing.

If life's so bad, just quit. Just go die. Nobody gives a fuck about you, nobody ever will. Welcome to the real world jackass.

>>742658237
>being this triggered and defending the delusional ideology of "Hurr durr everyone can learn how to draw.

>>742658443
Some people are horridly stubborn man... Its late for me so im probably gonna just stop soon. Considering the guy isnt even properly replying to anything.

Sorry for cluttering the thread guys. I ramble when im tired and my habit of writing too much shows up

>>742658331
>Second paragraph summary:

>You cannot criticise or question something if you are not doing it yourself.

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>>742658612
>still being salty because some stupid fucks said you were shit
>still not trying to improve to see if these "claims" are true
we should call over >>>/ic/ and see what they'd say
>>742658723
nah, you're fine. there's been at least 5 threads derailed because of me now so i should take the blame more than anyone here

Towards this debate can one single person provide actual evidence towards their claim about talent, no matter which side you're on. This isn't your opinion but actual evidence.

If not just shut up about it already.

>>742658580
link me artist in 2017 as good as leonardo
why are noen in this thread btw if it's so easy to level up without leonardo apprentinceship DLC?
carl bloch is my favorite artist btw i just used normie name fallout new vegas players can recognize
>>742658586
where are they?
>talent is a pursued interest
and the pursuited are riged, college is shithole, books are for baby
>>742658593
agreed

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>>742658550
>was that sarcasm? I can't tell
nah man
if you suck/are not at the level you want to be at it's because you don't practice enough

ANYONE can git gud
if you can't it's just you holding yourself back/feeling sorry for yourself/procrastinating

>>742658723
go sleep

>>742658723
Just like you are stubborn on holding on to this blind delusion. Oh I am not replying to anything, said the artist that constantly posts the everybody can learn to draw with the same shitty adivce following afterwards.

>>742658863
>anyone can get good
why are no leonardo da vinci in this thread? why people say that all the time while they draw like shit and everyone around them draws like shit?

>>742658790
>stll stubborn and defending your ideology

>>742658921
Because he was a professional, while people in these threads are hobbyists at most.

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shitposts are over, no more for the night

only questions and answers now

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>>742658863
>nah man
>if you suck/are not at the level you want to be at it's because you don't practice enough
>ANYONE can git gud
>if you can't it's just you holding yourself back/feeling sorry for yourself/procrastinating

>>742658863
it's sarcasm. i believe improvement is an actual thing because--
>>742658838 , listen up --
surprise surprise, we improve in school subjects over time, i.e math that we dont understand at first glance or how to effectively write a research paper about cotton or something.
>>742658950
hypocrates /is/ a nice song by marina, thank you for reminding me.

>>742658838
Anyone? At all? Or are you all going to shout opinions and not reach a middle ground.

reminder that if you draw porn you are a degenerate and you will never make it

>draw threads exist for 10 years now
>none have become leonardo da vinci or even 1/10000th of his skill level in 10 years of practicing drawing every day
why has not one of the thousands of artists here gotten anywhere near his skill level in 10 WHOLE YEARS if anyone can get good? "they just didnt practice the right way" yeah you're right, cause the colleges are rigged and the modern art books are for babies

>>742658987
Why Sidhe? Why Pock? Why Sidhepock?

>>742659048
Where is actual evidence behind your claim?

I think the problem with people nowadays is we're brought up being told that the world is this wonderful land of fantasy. We can travel to space, we can do everything we want to do, dream big, all that good jazz.

The problem is that children aren't being taught the value of hard work, and so they expect that all these good things will just be handed to them. They're taught that by the media and video games. Stories like Richie Rich, for example.

And you always hear about the all-time greats. Babe Ruth with his legendary swing, DaVinci with his masterpieces, Cool Hand Luke that could shoot a penny out of the air.

But you never see the road they took to get to that point. All you see is the end result of years and years of dedication, and you cannot even fathom how they become so great because the road they traveled is so long you cannot see the end from the beginning.

But they did travel that road. They started from the bottom, just like you did. The only difference between you and them is that they actually started walking instead of crying like a bitch.

>>742658758
You can still very well provide your views and opinions on a subject, however, if you dont know where organ placement is within the body, how would you know if a character is too skinny?
You can still say this. This would point out the artist that people that are focusing their study in other, likely non-creative hobbies, view the piece. However, going from:
"Theyre too skinny"
To
"I think theyre too skinny and you SHOULD do this this and this..."
And
"I would suggest maybe widening X... Maybe making Z longer. It looks too skinny."
And lastly
"This looks bad and it doesnt look right. Shes too skinny dont continue drawing it."

All of these are different. They all say the character is skinny, however, they are obviously different on whether they are constructive or not.
And you do not have to completely understand a subject to put your opinions out there.

>>742659048
>hypocrates /is/ a nice song by marina, thank you for reminding me.

>How to effectively ruin your own point.

>>742659084
Or maybe they just thought of drawing as a hobby or a fun way to pass the time and didn't see it as their main focus in life like Leonardo.

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>>742658921
1. people are their own worst enemies so they'd rather do something else instead
2. no good artists of that caliber ever draw for free
3. no good artists of that caliber come on /b/

>>742659021
I just said that, fat controller
go control your fat

>>742659127
average life span in da vinci's time was 30 years. there are artists here that have drawn longer than da vinci's entire existence and they still suck shit

>>742659179
>not denying that he is wrong though
Thank you.

>>742659213
Give me a few examples, I'll try my best to explain.

>>742659213
>30 years
He died at 67, along with plenty of other people you stupid cuck

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>>742659092
I used to play a game called mabinogi, and I really liked this area called Sidhe Sneachta. I also had a nickname in highschool 'Pocket' because I always had random useful shit in my pockets.

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>>742658084
>>742655502
it just occurred to me that I have no refs for titslapping

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All of you are so boring, just arguing about how to draw, and half of you don't know how to. not saying I know how to draw but circlejerking is boring.

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>>742659061
statue of david, anon.
anyway im gonna draw a penis on here and you're gonna like it
>>742659084
i've only been drawing for 4 years, though. im not devoting my life to a skill.
>>742659157
>believing i made a point
did you not read my above comments about how im pretty nonchalant about this so-called "argument"

>>742658847
Never said it was easy. People learn at different paces an take different amounts of time to get better.
Also fucking look yourself because there are literally countless amazing artist today.
And, also guess what, what you think is "good" is entirely subjective. And for someone like you, with clearly no grasp on what goes into art, even if i went technical and DID grab an artist that provided better technique than him, you wouldnt understand.

Why?
Because you are putting in zero effort into learning. EDUCATING yourself.

This is like saying you came out the womb being able to speak french, icelanding, english, and japanese. You dont. You learn these and take time.

Do you think the earth is flat too?

>>742659213
Also leo was taught by a professional since he was twelve, no one here is being taught as closely as that, so stop putting the bar so high and telling everyone to jump.

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>>742659269
>just copy and paste what I wrote but greentexted it with a meme saying i'm wrong with no claims as to why

this is either lazy bait or someone wants to talk to me

>>742659327
threads are usually never this boring, so.. sorry.
>>742659467
it's been bait ever since i filtered him

>>742659332
>did you not read my above comments about how im pretty nonchalant about this so-called "argument"

So that means that all your supposed "arguments" that you have thrown in here should be not taken seriously. So your argument that everbody can't learn is automatically invalid and the claim that you make about not being triggered is wrong as well. Thank you for finally admitting it. Took you long enough.

>>742659493
>Jumping to conclusions to say he's right before allowing the other guy a chance to make a rebuttal.
Sad.

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>>742659493
those are points, smegmafag. they're not separate arguments.
smegma deficency must be genetic.

>>742659467
It is not bait. I am just pointing out how wrong you are.

>>742659492

>it's been bait ever since i filtered him

>hurr durr since I can't come up with an proper argument I believe it's bait

It is kinda sad to see how triggered, pathetic and delusional you are.

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>>742659308
OH SHIT I THOUGHT I KNEW THAT NAME FROM SOMEWHERE what server didi you play on? also do you have anywhere i can learn to color

>>742659213
If you draw the same picture of a cartoon pig every day, you will eventually be very good at drawing cartoon pigs, and nothing else. Take a look at some of the artists here. They draw their characters in the same style, from the same angles, every single time. They're not improving because, like you and anyone like you, they're not really putting in effort. They're just retreading the same ground, over and over, and so when they step out of their comfort zone, the results are usually pretty bad.

Back to my road analogy, this is the equivalent of walking in a circle rather than down a path. Side note, you should do a little fact-checking every now and then... the average life-span was not quite thirty at the time and even if it were, there are younger artists today just as capable.

>>742659549
I am not even jumping to conclusions. I am using is argument against him.

>those are points

That doesn't change the fact that you pretty much admitted to not caring about and not taking it serious in any way.

>>742659571
>>742659705

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>>742659622
but like
you wanna explain
H O W?

it's like the argument "is fat genetics"
yes but you can lose weight no matter what

but people don't

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>>742659635
Tarlach, the deadest server.
As for color, it's the same as drawing. Just practice a lot. Watching speedpaints on youtube helps, so you can see a professional's process.

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>>742659622
>buzzwords
yawn
>>742659705
>>742659736
someone wasn't reading. that or there wasn't enough info cause of the previous thread 404ing.
smegmafag's whole schtick with the "hurr triggered?" trolling was what i was referring to. of course there'd be people that put words in my mouth and i m p l y

and since it's about to be 6am and i'd rather get my sleep, im off to bed.

remember everyone: improvement is real and people that believe we're all "born" with talent got their dreams shot down as a child. none of us came out of the womb like fucking mozart. follow tutorials, stick your leg out of that comfort zone (a la >>742659637 , nice tip i think it applies to a lot of people), have fun with that you're doing, and dont let rude people shoot your dreams down.

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>>742659492
Yea, I used to draw here a while back, did other things. I used the alias jack morrison, posted for like a month or so and then died for a bit. this just makes me worried though.

>>742659635
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZSM-ZWv0uU

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>>742659791
>>742659760
>>742659736
>>742659635
>>742659622
>>742659549
>>742659492
>>742659427

>>742659749
Compare the first drawings from different children and you can clearly see that despite them being all simplistic, some of them look better than other. You notice that they have more of an eye for shapes and other things.

>>742657976
now that's edgy ayyy

>>742658863
Fuck i want to man... Im getting there. Its like talkin to a brick wall at this point.

>>742658869
>shitty
You know thats subjective, right?

>>742659084
1. Different amounts of passion.
2. To provide a visual to a person. Many people on here like having conversations but dont even post their art publicly. They just use it to put a name and a face together on here.
3. For different people, there are different amount of times to learn.
4. Not everyone has been here for 10 years and many people didnt stay the full 10.
5. Tell me, how long did it take leo to "get good"?
6. Many artist on here are self taught and hell many art still in school. Even ou of school, people are still learning. Because art developes with the artist.

>>742659127
Good, accurate post.

Fuck its hard to keep up on mobile. Gonna head to bed soon because it doesnt look like this is going very far. Glad to know there are good people in the thread though. I sure do love you guys.

>>742659791
Night man. Sleep well. Thanks for hanging around.

>>742659791
>yawn
>admitting defeat

>smegmafag's whole schtick with the "hurr triggered?" trolling

>implying again

>remember everyone: improvement is real and people that believe we're all "born" with talent got their dreams shot down as a child. none of us came out of the womb like fucking mozart. follow tutorials, stick your leg out of that comfort zone (a la 742659637 , nice tip i think it applies to a lot of people), have fun with that you're doing, and dont let rude people shoot your dreams down.

>being this wrong

>>742659760
>Tarlach
oh feels bad man i tried to go back to play but im on mari and its been pretty dead from what i can see and ok will do i think ill focus on lineweight like i was told to last thread for now
>>742659860
i know how to use the multiply i meant coloring itself why you keep telling me this .-.

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>>742659911
yeeh sure we all have different starting points but you need to keep practicing

here's a weab reference since we're on a mongolian cave painting imageboard

Naruto is WEAKER than Sasuke
Uchiha clan make good ninjas
Naruto TRAINS
and
G R O W S

>>742659954
>crawling up the drawfags ass
Man how far are you up there?
I mean this post just reeks.

>good people
>You know thats subjective, right?

>>742660011
Explain why you're still trying to continue this conversation. You've established your concrete opinion that people who are not born with talent can never learn to draw. You've established that you do not care what others have to say on the matter. You've established that you enjoy really gross drawings of a fat, hairy woman sucking dirty penises, yet refuse to make any effort to create them yourself and instead expect people who've invested to fulfill that request for you at no charge.

You're not going to post anything of value. Why post at all? You're wasting your own time. I'd tell you to find something productive to do, but you don't believe in productivity, so instead I'll just tell you to kindly fuck off.

Are there any kinky/fetish requests in this thread? No scat, non-con, underage.

>>742660120
>Naruto TRAINS
>and
>G R O W S

>refines his skills and learns how to control the ability he was given at birth. (ninetail fox)

ftfy

>>742659760
How do you practice?

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>>742658175
Done.

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>>742654627

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>>742660197
I just draw what I want to, when I want to. That's mostly consisted of human bodies and muscular men. And exaggerated shitposts.
It takes a lot of time, so I don't rush it.

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>>742660196
>bad example...I shoulda said rocky or something without powerlevels/mythical beasts

my point is people can grow and GO BEYOND

not everyone does

>>742660206
nice

>>742660154
I am trying to call out and stop this delusion from being spread. You give people wrong ideas and create this mindset of everyone can do anything. This mindset is just unhealthy because it spreads false expecations.

>You've established that you do not care what others have to say on the matter.

I would actually care if they could actually back up their bullshit.

>to create them yourself

I am not even going to repeat myself.

>You're not going to post anything of value.

Like most people in these threads.

>>742660122
Amazing. Truly. I wonder how you even hold up a conversation to the people around you.

Also, if you are the smegma peach anon, as someone that didnt see your previous outbursts... Just know you easily stopped many artist from drawing your request. Although, you probably dont even give a shit.

Sad though, how you look down on artist on here.. Yet constantly request and whine. Like really? This is no way to get a request done.
Have fun finding some artist to commission instead. At least they'll profit.

>>742660154
I love you anon. Im too tired to debate/argue anymore haha. Love ya man. Good night

>>742660317
>my point is people can grow and GO BEYOND

>not everyone does
>>742657964
My point exactly.

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>>742660317
dat template drawing style shit

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>>742660171
Ghost girl's breast being squeezed to make her lactate an excessive amount of smoky/Misty milk

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>>742660535
I don't really get what you're saying at all...?

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>>742660171
Pls? If it's good I might do it, if it's not I'll ignore it. Please let me hear you most depraved desires, I want DA tier perversion, weird is good.

Please provide ref if characters, I'd rather not draw Eggs atm

>>742660570
Good ghost

>>742660436
>Just know you easily stopped many artist from drawing your request. Although, you probably dont even give a shit.

>implying they would have drawn it to begin with

>Sad though, how you look down on artist on here.

>implying again

I just called how wrong it is to believe that you can learn how to draw. But it seems that this is equivalant to looking down on someone.

>This is no way to get a request done.

>refer to my first point

I also have talked about that and how I won't support this system of exploitation.

>>742660622
Are you okay with drawing farts, or buttfucks that lead to farting?

>>742660570
Maybe, but lactation is pretty boring.

>>742660702
Not really.

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>>742660622
>18
>no scat
something like this

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>>742660171
Requesting Lilligant wetting herself without her dress

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>>742660374
You've failed to fuck off. Even in this regard you are an utter disappointment. You've already decided that you are a failure and I've lost interest in telling you otherwise.

>>742660622
Sailor Venus giving anon a lollipop that's been in her ass.

>>742660598
your approach, the one so many take, which isn't any better than drawing by numbers. it's a dead, generic way of drawing

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recreating memes

>>742660858
>You've failed to fuck off. Even in this regard you are an utter disappointment. You've already decided that you are a failure and I've lost interest in telling you otherwise.

>Why won't he believe blindy what I have to say?

>>742660676
I actually had a sketch going for a Peach. However, im in bed so fuck if im getting back up.
But you lost it man. Poof.

>just saying its wrong that you can learn to draw
Have you never held a pencil and doodled? Thats practice.
Also you said way more than that man. But at this point, its like talkin to a brick wall.

Im out man. Im tired and dont feel like dealing with your shit anymore. Night.

>>742660622
I just want a sexy vileplume man. Nobody ever likes vileplume.... Or any of the other fungi pokemon........ :')

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>>742660858
>>742660841
>>742660796
>It's all toilet or underage themed
Maybe I was wrong to ask for fetish stuff... gomen.

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>>742660987
ahh that makes more sense

I'm inconsistent since I only draw on /b/ and I have found 0 art styles I like so I kinda just do whatever I feel like

even if whatever I feel like looks like ass
pardon me

>>742661166
Corset piercings

>>742660293
how's life, best boi?

>>742661091
>I actually had a sketch going for a Peach. However, im in bed so fuck if im getting back up.
>But you lost it man. Poof.

>Hah if I lie to him I can make him feel bad about himself.

>Also you said way more than that man. But at this point, its like talkin to a brick wall.

>You have said way more, but instead of providing evidence for my claim I will just call you undebatable.

>Im tired and dont feel like dealing with your shit anymore

I have given up.

>>742661167
legit, if you don't want to make progress

>>742661166
How about bukkake?

>>742661167
Youre doing fine. You do you fam. Im one of the "better" artist on here (so says people in these threads) and even then i stil start my sketches with shapes and circles. Its good practice, dont worry about it.... Although you seem fine so whatever your a good drawfriend

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>>742661166
>even THEMES of things I like are wrong
FUCK

>>742661166
>when smegmafag doesn't fall for your predictable bait

You have to try harder than that to bait him.

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ill leave this and then im out.

>>742661055
I don't care what you believe. Millions of artists all over the world have become skilled in their craft, from painting to sculpting to architecture to digital graphic design.

They are proof that you are wrong, and an idiot.

>>742661240
>I have given up.

That much is clear to everyone by now. Who could respect you when you don't even respect yourself?

>>742661166
You can draw Venus as an 18 year old and she won't look any different, honestly... I didn't think I was pushing your age limit but my bad, not trying to disrespect your ground rules.

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>>742658244
>if what i say is untrue then why does no one paint at renaissance level skill anymore? you have no answer to that
i bet you reply to the andy threads pretty often, don't ye?

>>742661294
generic sheeples
never anything beyond illustrations that you forget as you flip the page

>>742661166
You never specified toilet kinks as hard no outside of scat

>>742661332
>They are proof that you are wrong, and an idiot.

>They are the proof that they were born with said skillset and could refine it.

ftfy


>That much is clear to everyone by now. Who could respect you when you don't even respect yourself?

>failing to greentext creates false assumption

Thank you. I meant to make it look like you have given up on debating me since you have no valid argument.

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>>742661245
nah nah I do it's just

I am someone who does not care about anything
I'm content with what I have
I enjoy how I am
i'm simple

and I hate it
>>742661294
thanks

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>>742661225
Pretty shit.
Time 4 me 2 go

>>742661442
>asks for evidence to back claims
>does back his own claims

>someone brings up valid points
>only responds to 1/10 of the message

Yup uhuh you sure are correct! Nobody could ever think differently from you because what you say is fact!

>you're pathetic and truly have lost out on any smegma peaches being done
>cuz youve clearly taken a shit on the artist here

Bye i have a dog to walk. Talk to you guys later.

>>742661523
so you draw the same old man's face all over again and again and say you are "one of the best" in here? wow.

>>742661496
that's fine
it's fun drawing for leisure. drawing is great, it creates memories in a way and is good practice for your mind.

>>742661442
A debate implies that both parties are willing to listen to reason.

If you think that anyone is born with a certain skillset, you are insulting the hard work and dedication that those individuals put into mastering those skills. Even a foundation must first be built. Absolutely no-one is born with skills. We are all born drooling and stupid and unable to hold up our own heads without breaking our necks. You just chose to stay that way.

This is the last time I'll respond to you. Our conversation has become dull and toxic.

>>742660535
>>Says the person that can't draw.
From what I've seen, some of the best people in art today do not just shit on a canvas.
They take basic forms to simplify the drawing and create a model that simulates reality through the picture plane.
If you actually want fully rendered realistic drawings I would like to see you try to do this without some sort of guide.
You sound like the type of person that does this as a hobby, and assumes that they know everything there is to know.

>>742661643
Not Pock but dude are you serious right now? Pock drew several different angles and perspectives and thats bettee than most of the drawfags here. Maybe not the best, but cmon now. Theres definitely skill there.

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>>742661149
The angsty, frumpy teenage is better tho.

>>742661221
>>742661258
I'll think about it..

>>742661314
Bait him? I already drew for him.

>>742661332
It was about being ass to mouth

>>742661406
>>742661298s
I know. And I don't resent people for liking this stuff, but themes of a no go will not be very inspiring.

>>742661640

>does back his own claims
>claims something he has done

>you're pathetic and truly have lost out on any smegma peaches being done
>cuz youve clearly taken a shit on the artist
here

>calls out ideology = shitting on drawfags

How sad do you have to be to believe this bullshit?

Any simple space themed reqs?

>>742661739
>It was about being ass to mouth
I fully understand. I wouldn't ask you to do anything you're not comfortable with, I just misunderstood. My apologies.

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Anybody else realize that super saiyins are really just strong coneheads with hair that fight each other all the time?

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>>742661643
but anon
I want to get good
I don't want to be so stagnant
I want to WANT to get good
>>742661721
this

>>742661739
I..... Im the OR and maybe its because im tired but i didnt expect vileplume to straight up be lewded in my head i had an image of a character design and i just.... Wow poof gone im tired

Thanks man. Looks fuckin fantastic regardless of my loopy ass head right now.

>>742661777
make a dude fuck a dead girl in space like her mask fell off or something

>>742661667
>A debate implies that both parties are willing to listen to reason.

Which drawfags clearly can't, because the believe this bullshit.

>If you think that anyone is born with a certain skillset, you are insulting the hard work and dedication that those individuals put into mastering those skills.

>The truth = insulting

k

>This is the last time I'll respond to you

>I have officially accepted defeat.

>>742661701
>do not just shit on a canvas.
thinking that is a valid counterpoint ...

>If you actually want fully rendered realistic drawings
I don't. I want stuff that breathes, not that dead-end shit you get from all this learning-by-numbers crap

>You sound like the type of person that does this as a hobby
nice speculation on no grounds. what does your crystal ball say about the weather?

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>>742661643
>this guy actually taking a swing at Sidhe

>>742661739
>Bait him? I already drew for him.

Well the timing seemed a bit off. Like you were trying to bait him, so he spergs even harder or if you would have actually drawn for him. Calm the thread down.

Sorry for the false assumption on my part.

>>742661752
>backs up his claims
When did you post factual evidence on anything while linkin back to your reference material and sources, hmm?

I personally see that you, someone that sees themselves with zero artistic talent and refuses to learn, knows extremely little compared to those that have studied art historically and have educated themselves in art.

At this point, your opinions dont even matter. You arent responding to the things people are even saying. You are only taking a snippet of what has been said and are completely ignoring everythin else.

Youre pathetic.

Goodnight. I'm done talking to someone that has given up on their own life and has no passion.

>>742661940
He's taking a swing at anyone, lashing out because he's mad that no-one will take his garbage requests. I just wish I'd realized that sooner rather than later.

>>742661804
Thank you

>>742661830
Aaah, so you wanted an anthro Vileplume? '

>>742661825
Practice drawing human anatomy man. Best place to start. Start realistic, understand how things work (wrinkles, organs, organ placement, proportions, weight distribution, etc.) and you'll get there. Even just lookin back and forth as you draw a photo of someone will help, even if you arent fully understanding why X is where it is or why Z is doing thaf thing

Never been in one of these, so lets try unless this is dead already :V

Anyone wants something drawn?

>>742662087
Yeah, but no biggie man. Only if you want to, but dont gotta. Im just glad i even got something man, thanks

>>742662195
draw me a homeless girl on the street getting raped

>>742661825

my point is that you fall into drawing generic, schematic crap that you can't tell from other generic digital art as soon as you plunge into these template drawing schools.
not saying R Crumb can mentor you on the best way to learn to draw, but the most important thing is developing your own approach and this is something that a lot of people, including those proud little drawing-by-numbers fags,>>742661940
>>742662041
seem to miss completely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P0sh2n6mgQ

>>742662155
this is good advice
drawing from nature and drawing nudes / portraits is and always has been the best starting point. not a fucking computer screen.

>>742662275
Aaaaight, style?

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>>742662195
First time in a drawthread? Man you came at a bad time. Not many people are on and theres discourse happening... But i'll give you a request if you still wanna draw something

This sweet fungi witch :D (shes from little witch academia)

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>>742661739
this image and that OR's reaction to it are so very funny to me the drawing is good eggs but i never thought id see the day where vileplume was lewded, made my day after all the arguin we have goin on

>>742662041
mad, because what you sheeple with your youtube tutorials, circles and grids create is low-fi art. you probably couldn't even handle a canvas. shuffling pixels around is nowhere near dealing with real color and pigments

>>742662315
idk im not a drawfag just do wahtever style you're good at

>>742662017
>factual evidence

>drawings claiming something is called factual evidence

How delusional are you?

>At this point, your opinions dont even matter.

>If you are not X you cannot criticise Y.

>>742662420
OR here. Ive been laughing my ass off over it too. I didnt expect it and im so tired im laughig at the littlest of shit im amazed and eggs even delivered i fuckin love you eggs

>>742662041
I have not even criticised sidhe.
There are at the moment to people calling the drawfags out. Even though I am sure that the other one is just baiting.

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>>742662155
god damn
>>742662291
>template drawing schools
>drawing by numbers
I don't even know what those mean
>>742662423
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8L-0VR6PP4

i'm dead. later. enjoy the rest of the thread I guess

Anyone up for sm4sh?

>>742662439
Alright then, whatever comes out
Back at you in a moment

>>742662459
>still not replying to anythin that anon said
>repeating yourself when theyre carrying the conversation
>not bringing anything to the table outside of "i cant draw so nobody else can either unless theyre born with it"

Dont need to bring everyone else down because you cant bring yourself to put out time and effort to better yourself. Sorry you cant drsw your disgusting smegma waifus.

>>742662291
It's so funny because out of everyone to call out for same-y digital art, he calls out the one with probably the most anatomical knowledge and practice.

>>742662559
Night man. Dont let shit get you down. It all takes time and with all this oractice you have been doing with shapes, you'll be ahead of the game when it comes to proportion practice

Night man.

>>742662626
>Dont need to bring everyone else down because you cant bring yourself to put out time and effort to better yourself. Sorry you cant drsw your disgusting smegma waifus.

>still believes that calling people out is insulting them or bringing them down

Did I destroy your happy little world, where everyone can do anything if they just believe hard enough in themself.?

>>742661643
>cucked by sidhe

>>742662750
>still not replying to parts of the replies that obviously show how your wrong

Having fun plugging your ears with smegma and making noises?

>>742662858
Have fun with living in your delusional little world.

>>742662883
Good job still not replying. Really looks like youre the delusional one when you refuse to read whats in front of you and really pick and choose what to respond to.

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>>742662559
>I don't even know what those mean
than you should look up "drawing by numbers". these templates aren't anything else than advanced methods to that principle. you can teach anybody with a faint bit of talent how to draw generic, sort of anatomically correct styles

>>742662559
"We're commercial artists" ... that's a key point in this rant. there is a big difference between creating art (digital art, illustration, logos) that has a certain purpose and creating art that serves other purposes beyond being commercial. would you agree? same as a carpenter isn't doing the same thing a beaver, just because they both use wood.

if you fail to progress in your own style, you end up creating shit based on folks like andrew loomis who try to lay it out for dummies

>>742662935
I replied to every post, but it seems not in your little dream world. I understand that you don't want to be taken seriously.

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>>742662253
Meh

>>742662420
>>742662515
If I could brighten your day a little, I'm glad!

>>742662807
how so, faggot?
this Sidhe guy is doing commercial illustrations. I'm not into this kind of stuff at all. Are you trying to break it down to taste? Because what I'm talking about is individual qualities, distinctions and skills, which most illustration artists (like Sidhe) lack.

>>742663055
>anon: writes 3 paragraphs
>you: replies to 3 sentences

Yup. Uhuh. Do you understand why people stopped talking to you yet? Because thats a big reason as to why.

>>742662978
basically create your own style or you're boring
bitch nibba if you think sidhe doesn't

>>742663146
When their paragraphs are easily summarized into on sentence then why bother picking everything apart?

>Do you understand why people stopped talking to you yet?

Because they don't have any arguments that are non-biased and can be based on facts.

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>>742663119
Oh shit!!! Thank you Eggs! :D Much appreciated, she looks great!!

>>742663243
>>742663146
you 2 butt buddies share email or discord i can see this conversation going on for a long time

>>742663146
>>742663243
both of you take a step back from your petty squabble and just look at what you wrote to each other. this is literally an argument between two stubborn children.

>>742663121
>which most illustration artists
Illustration artists lack and artistic motif, not skill, dumbo.

Many commercial illustrators, like JC Leyendecker, had tons of skill.

>>742663243
>non-biased
I guess you dont have any mirrors in your home.

>summaried in 3 sentences
>several instances where you straight up ignoring actually good debate from the other side
>debate that has a firm ground

>>742663276
I'm happy you like it!

>>742663351
>>742663301
Im just tired and seeing how long he'll drag it out at this point. The other anond left and im just killing time until i pass out.

>>742663370
>>summaried in 3 sentences
>several instances where you straight up ignoring actually good debate from the other side
>debate that has a firm ground

You really seem to enjoy this hugbox and white knight every artist in this thread. And everyone that dares to oppose your "holy drawfags" is evil and mean. Get the fuck off. Why are doing this? So that you can more deliveries from drawfags here that you defended?

No one has proven me wrong, because they all pulled this personal experience bullshit. "it worked for me so it must work for everybody else". Sorry but not everybody can draw so easily with barely to no effort.

>>742663276
this is such a good reaction image
dis the origin of that sanic meme?

>>742663592
Never said you were evil or mean... But youre right, you are a dick.

And pretty sure nobody but you and that leo anon said things about no effort. Everyone else has said it takes time effort and practice. Really proving how much you havent read

>>742660858
>Sailor Venus giving anon a lollipop that's been in her ass.

ahm working on this anon it's taking a minute please hang tight for me k

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>>742663624
I have no idea gomen

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>>742663760
some good ol fashion reaction images to lighten the mood

>>742663721
>Everyone else has said it takes time effort and practice. Really proving how much you havent read

The simple time and effort lie, an effective method to give you false hope. They have been born with it and just refined their skills over time. Thus they believe that everyone can do it over time. Being in complete denial over thier skillset.

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>>742663863
best reaction image