ask a pre-transition transgirl anything

>>730137940
A male. You are a male.

Where are you from?
How old are you?
What is your name and your trans name?

How long have you been mentally ill?

do you consider yourself mentally ill?

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>>730137940

>>730137940
When did you discover ypu were mentally ill?

Aren't you really just a man?

>>730137940
No such thing as trans faggot

Were you abused?

>>730137940
Why is it a thing so much to try and mimic a different gender, 99% of my existence I don't even acknowledge my gender at all, I just see my self as me with a dick and like girls... I don't think I'm a male or female although I know I'm a male but like it's not a "thing"

>>730138063
that is not a question
>>730138084
Sweden, 21, Rebecka and Rebecka.
>>730138179
>>730138187
I do not consider transgenderism a mental illness, however I am diagnosed with depression and I started experience that when I was ~16, around the same time I started realizing I was trans.
>>730138199
bad meme, Austin Powers would never discriminate against anyone based on sexuality or gender expression <3

>>730137940
Show ass pic

It's bait faggots, why would you even reply

How does it feel to be subhuman?

psychedelic mushrooms are great for depression

>>730137940
why are u transitioning if u think guys who like ur kind are gay ?

>>730138063
OP. I swear I went to school with a guy who looks EXACTLY like you. Same nose, hair, lips, colour of skin and lips, same eyes. Are you sure your initials arent L I C?

>>730138669
more like F A G

Why are you such a faggot

>>730137940
Know that feel. Hang in there. Hope things work out.

>>730137940
Why have you not killed yourself yet?

>>730138813
Fag

>>730138401
I grew up in a very loving home with parents who tried to avoid pushing any sexuality or gender identity on me, but cis- and heteronormativity is deeply ingrained in our society and I believe my mental health has taken damage from that, yes.
Also I was kind of emotionally abused by my caretakers in my early school years - I would cry very easily and was basically yelled at because that "was a bad thing" and i needed to "man up"

>>730138411
not sure what's so funnny but neat gif :)

>>730138446
gender identity differs in importance to different people. I don't mind too much what people "see me as", but I am very uncomfortable with the body I have and the expectaitons that are placed on me because of it, which is the main reasons i want to transition.

>>730138813
samefag cause no self-respecting person would console a tranny

>>730137940
Why are you promoting gender roles by choosing to transition to the gender that you identify with? A true modern would be themselves without submitting to the patriarchy by relying on antiquated gender roles to define themselves.

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>>730138551
I don't actually have an ass pic, hope this pic is satisfactory.

>>730137940
Becoming a faggot will never make you a woman at all.
Dumb, kys.

>>730138951
>What's so funny
Is playing dumb like, a tactic for you faggots? You know exactly what we find funny. Your gross, backwards existence you fucking faggot.

>>730138179
>>730138187
>3 seconds apart
>Same point
>Same length

Truly a message from the gods.

>>730137940
Hows the process going? I'm turning 23 soon and curious.

>>730139168
Possibly, we need to verify that it wasn't samefaggotry first tho.

>>730139225
Nobody likes you.

>>730139279
HERETIC!

>>730138560
I wouldn't call this bait, I'm just bored lmao

>>730138589
I find it very interesting that this is such a common thing to call transgender people. I also find it interesting that I have only ever "heard" it used online, in text format. No one has ever actually uttered those words as far as I know.

>>730138606
lmao i'm on pills that work decently, I'm afraid mushrooms would fuck me up hard xD

>>730138669
odd occurance, but no. They aren't and have never been. Not posting my initials though.

>>730138721
lmao that's the lamest insult i've heard

>>730138772
because sucking dick is fucking awesome, you should try it

>>730139225
The process is quite simple actually.

1. Drink bleach
2. Wait

>>730139285
Not even you anon?

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>>730138461
SWEDEN YES

>>730137940
Do you spit or swallow ?

>>730138661
no answer?

>>730139346
Okay, retard. All I was saying is that we need to make sure it wasn't the same guy posting, because then it wouldn't be significant.

>>730139383
>I wouldn't call this bait, I'm just bored lmao
If not bait leave
>>>/lgbt/

>>730139385
Can I add sweetener? How much bleach? How often? How long is the wait? Should I drink more right after the wait period?

He's from Sweden? No wonder he is this fucked up

>>730139387
Nobody.

>>730138813
thanks <3

>>730138846
idk i was thinking about that question earlier today. too lazy i guess.

>>730138999
lol

>>730139013
i'm not sure if that's an attempt at trolling, but my serious reply would be "baby steps"

>>730139142
so it's more backwards to desire to be the one you really are than to be really angry at people for it? :o)

>>730139225
I've finished almost all of my investigative meetings, I should get the diagnose and start HRT this summer

>>730137940
If you're pre-transition than how are you a transgirl? Wouldn't you have had to begin transitioning to be considered a transwoman?

Also, seconding >>730139013 I'm genuinely curious about this question

>>730139508
>Doesn't know about post limiter
>Doesn't get the joke

I think we know who the real retard here is.

>>730139679
But your mum seems fond of me

Are you gonnna chop off your wiener?

>>730139705
Yes, because that isn't who you are. You are a man, you hate being a man, live with it and suffer like the rest of us.

>>730138461
Sweden, where the men are so cucked they have decided to become women so they can also get raped by the muslims and not feel left out.

>>730139705
>i'm not sure if that's an attempt at trolling, but my serious reply would be "baby steps"

babysteps? You are buying into the system that oppresses you but it's okay because babysteps? It is people like you that make the world a worse place for people that want to express who they really are.

>>730137940
>man with a girly haircut
fixed

>>730139385
but i would have to actually go buy bleach for that.... too much effort and too expensive.

>>730139495
swallow <3

>>730138661
sorry, missed this question. i don't think guys who like transgirls are gay. not sure where you got that idea.

>>730139514
but /b/ is so much more fun, people here are irrantional and try really hard to offend me xD

>>730139792
You're 23. Nobody likes you when you're 23.

You're a boy, not a girl

>>730139963
>i don't think guys who like transgirls are gay

u are on /b/... that doesn't work like that

>>730139977
Especially if you still act like you're in freshman year.

>>730139977
Not 23 yet! I've got a few months before people stop liking me.

>>730137940
Can I stick it in your pooper?

>>730139854
kek

>>730139705
>investigative meetings
Is this step one? How does one start step one?

>>730140156
What the hell is wrong with me?

>>730140343
10/10

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>>730137940

Would you like your Bleachtini shaken, or stirred?

>>730139757
to be trans simply means to identify as another gender than the one you were assigned at birth. as i was assigned male at birth, but identify as female, i am transgender. transitioning has nothing to do with it, altough some people insist that if you don't want to transition you can't call yourself transgender. i have no strong opinion on the topic.

aaand i've already answered that, but to elaborate, i don't see it as transitioning to the gender i identify with, but the body i ídentify with. i am by all means socially a girl. except some people refuse to see me as such beacuse of their antiquated views, but i support attempts at trying to change those societal views, even though i don't personally have the energy and/or drive to parttake in activities to that end

>>730140100
/thread

>>730139977
AND YOU STILL ACT LIKE YOU'RE IN FRESH-MAN-YEAR
i like that song

>>730140100
/thread

do you think transition was always there or just became popular by the media in the last decades like internet, etc. and do you think this indirect "support" (knowing that there are others) is the reason you fulfill your desire now?.

>>730137940
Why are you such a fucking fraud? Why is it your lifes work to be a Jew trap fraud?

>>730139977
I just turned 24, I hope what you said is true and things start to be good for me.

>>730137940
>ask a fag anything
Fixed it for you OP.

>>730138461
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. It doesn't matter what you define it as.

Fuck it Imma help this faggot

>>730140156
>>730140686
Wait I've heard this before, song name?

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>>730140949
Damn it Im dumb

>>730140942
On a site site populated by the mentally ill, I'd say it's the best illness of the lot.

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>>730141092
Get out banana fag this is a Spider chemo thread

>>730137940
>>730137940
>>730137940
>>730139070
>>730139070
dump moar of u faggot before spideys kill thread

>>730137940
Show us you naked. Want to see what the world will be losing.

>>730141159
Why not both? We can eradicate this day together

>>730137940
Why haven't you killed yourself yet, faggot?

>>730140596
>to be trans simply means to identify as another gender than the one you were assigned at birth

No it doesn't. Trans means you are in transition or have already transitioned. If you are genetically male but feel you are a member of the female gender you are dysphoric.

Furthermore you were never assigned a gender role at birth, you were made aware of your genetic sex and chose to interpret that as a signal for how to act.

You and only you are responsible for how you act and looking like a female is a pathetic and offensive attempt at being female. Needing your body to look a certain way to show other people how you feel only shows that you have no self identity and you need the actions of others to define yourself.

Get educated.

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>>730141253
Well, why not, go for it

>>730140981
Darude - Sandstorm

>>730139799
a crude way to put it, but yes i intend to go through gential reconstruction surgery.

>>730139854
nah, not into middle eastern or black people generally. also ow the edge

>>730139913
you may have a point, i expressed my thoughts badly. i have elaborated on the question in an earlier reply, hopefully that will answer your question more clearly.

>>730140100
that is not a question. like damn, some of you are really bad at this

>>730140125
yeaaahhhh i know. but worth a try i guess.

>>730140199
not into that, very much prefer oral <3

>>730140294
sort of. it varies by location, but in sweden, you go to your local clinic, discuss your situation (eg "i'm transgender, i'd like to transition"), they send a referral to a specialized clinic where you go to a number of meetings over a long period of time and answer lots of questions about your childhood, social situation etc.

>>730140310
oh no. not spoder man.

>>730138461
>Sweden, 21,

Oh you are form Sweden,it figures.I hope you got raped and killed by some imported Somali.You people are FREAKS

>>730137940
There's nothing wrong with dress-up. Taking exogenous hormones, however, is a great way to ruin your life.

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Bananafag you in?

>>730141359
Forgot were I was, thanks for trying though.

ITT: a ton of faggots who can't admit to their own feelings so they hate on others ;)

>>730140741
HER DREAMS WENT OUT THE DOOR WHEN SHE TURNED 24!

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>>730141695

>>730141381
>>730138951
>I am very uncomfortable with the body I have and the expectaitons that are placed on me because of it

Why? That sounds like you are too invested in what other people think of you. Try more introspection instead of imagining what other people expect from you. You will never be happy trying to change yourself so that people like you.

>>730141695
>ITT: a ton of faggots who can't admit to their own feelings so they hate on others ;)
I fully admit that I feel that niggers did 3/11

>>730141381
>"i'm transgender, i'd like to transition"
I'd rather take an exam than say this to a doctor

>>730141643
No, for real though.

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>>730138863
Troglodyte
>>730138999
You suffer from BPD and pretend to be a sociopath, don't you?

>>730137940
Are you getting a penectomy and are you in the 417 area?

>>730137940
>ask a pre-transition transgirl anything
You are who?
This whole thread is femanon levels of attention whoring; people who validate your behavior should be ashamed.
Kill yourself like you trannies like to do you worthless faggot.

>>730141891
>liking bottom surgery

What are you? Gay?

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>>730142000
>>730142004
Fucking kek

>>730142000
>>730142004
Fuck me

>>730137940
>wants to be female and paid attention to for that and that alone
>hasn't posted tits and timestamp or GTFO'd
So, you haven't been here long, have you?

>>730140720
i literally learned about the concept of transgenderism when i was about 15, and during the following years i started to see more and more how it seemingly applied to me. i struggled a lot internally with it but eventually came to rest with it and accepted that it's who i am.

>>730140761
lmao

>>730140859
hahahaha goddamnit that's hilarious

>>730140981
"What's my age again?" by blink-182

>>730141272
already answered

>>730141305
really, you are the one that should get educated because "genetic sex" is bullshit. there are so many disorders and deviations from "xx/xy" genetics that it's ridiculous to call what set of gentials a person has their "genetic sex".

>>730138951
ok I'll bite, do you feel your environment and upbringing influenced you to get gender issues? Do you think that swedish society openly support those transitions? I am asking you because I have read here many stories about the so called degeneracy of Sweden and the promotion of cuckoldry and feminization of your society.

>>730142192
>"genetic sex" is bullshit. there are so many disorders and deviations from "xx/xy" genetics
Sure, but how would that not be the exception making the rule, though? You YOURSELF said they were disorders and deviations, making them not the norm.

>>730137940
is your dick feminin?

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Meow

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>>730141183
>>730141221
lmao sure, you can have this. not looking the most feminine but the only pic i have on hand rn

OP can you explain to me how the fuck putting on girl socks and girl underwear and sucking dick makes you happy?

try to give an answer that doesnt make me wanna kill you

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>>730142499

>>730138461
whether you choose to accept it or not, makes no difference. It's a mental illness. Those with multipersonality disorders generally don't know or want to accept it, doesn't mean they don't have it. Lastly, I don't care if some weak willed psychological site or institution has changed their minds, Webster's dictionary changed the definition of literally to include figuratively because too many idiots misused the word. Doesn't change the fact that literally and figuratively mean two different things.

>>730142192
>"genetic sex" is bullshit.
>it's ridiculous to call what set of gentials a person has their "genetic sex"


You are a fucking retard. Genetic sex means your sex at the genetic level which is a redundancy because morons like yourself don't know the difference between sex and gender.

Your genitals don't define your sex you absolute fruit cake, your genitals are a result of your genetic sex. If someone loses their testicles and penis in an accident or due to cancer are they a woman now? That is literally how stupid you are.

There are only two sexes in humans as defined by the xx or xy chromosomes, every single other configuration or mutation is 100% STERILE as in cannot pass on its genetic information to the next generation. That means they are not sexes.

There are more sexes in other species and even some species that transition between sexes but humans empirically have two sexes.

Cutting up your body and acting like you think women should act wont change that, but go ahead keep oppressing women and suck the patriarchy's dick.

>>730142527
Not OP, but it makes girls happy :/

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Meow.

I saw one guy, a gray-haired, very distinguished-looking guy with only his shorts on, do something you wouldn't believe me if I told you. First he put his suitcase on the bed. Then he took out all these women's clothes, and put them on. Real women's clothes--silk stockings, high-heeled shoes, brassiere, and one of those corsets with the straps hanging down and all. Then he put on this very tight black evening dress. I swear to God. Then he started walking up and down the room, taking these very small steps, the way a woman does, and smoking a cigarette and looking at himself in the mirror. He was all alone, too. Unless somebody was in the bathroom--I couldn't see that much.

[spoiler]post more of you in pantsu[/spoiler]

>>730142152
lmao. well there's a pic of my dick in this thread now, hope that satisfies some of your perverse needs :P

>>730142360
i don't think society influenced me to "be trans" if that's what you're asking. i do believe i have experienced difficulties related to gender because of society, as it is kind of taboo to explore gender identity and identify as anything but "what you were born as". because of this i have expreienced emotional harm because of my gender.

>>730142433
eh i don't feel like digging for sources and stuff rn besides this thread is full of spiders now so i'm just gonna go ahead and leave real soon.

>>730143147
>Society made me a boy!
>Society doesn't influence me

The cognitive dissonance is real.

>>730137940
>girl
FUCKING KEK'd

>>730143147
>perverse needs
You completely don't understand why Tits or GTFO is a rule.
As such, I'll simply advise you to LURK MOAR.

>>730143147
>eh i don't feel like digging for sources and stuff
>I'm not going to bother with facts or evidence

you 100% lost that argument

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>>730137940

You're a male, you are mentally ill, any other male who finds you attractive is a homosexual, facts are facts.

1. Why aren't you satisfied with just crossdressing?

2. What will you do if you transition and then regret what you have done with yourself, which is a big chance.

3. Did you decide you wanted to be a female after watching RuPauls Drag Race?

>>730142527
LMAO best post in this thread, but yeah, basically this >>730142891

>>730142885
so what you're saying is you're unwilling to accept that definitions of things change over time. tell me, do you still use the word "gay" to mean "happy" exclusively?

>>730142889
i might have misunderstood you. i agree that sex and gender are different things.
i don't intend to opress women or such patriarchy dick though, sorry i made that impression(?)

>>730143909
>i don't intend to opress women or such patriarchy dick though, sorry i made that impression(?)
But I thought you said you swallowed. Why would you lie to strangers on the internet?

>>730143569
How does this make you feel OP? The first one looks exactly the same.

>>730143909
>i don't intend to opress women or such patriarchy dick though

You feel like a woman so you are going to change your body and clothing to match what is considered gender normative for women. That is gender oppression by definition.

By doing this you are championing the patriarchy and its forced gender roles.

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Fucking captcha was Hawthrone Trans

>>730137940
do you like this music video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtsNWYIxBGI

how do you deal with all of the transphobic idiots?

Honestly my opinion doesn't matter, you are and always will be a sad little man even if you wish upon a star and dream dream dream that you were a girl. You are a drain on the livelihood of your community and your problem is not even close to being real. I'll never think of you again after this but you'll live the rest of your life being whatever you wanna pretend to be. But all the pretending in the world will never make you truly happy. Thank goodness in less than a decade you'll most likely kill yourself.

>>730144408
Not OP. It's kinda the opposite though, he's not oppressing biological women only trans women but in reality that only opens up options for them and allows "bio-women" to do as they please

>>730140310
thank god spiderman finally arrived

>>730144856
>>>/tubmlr/

>>730143313
>Society expected me to be a boy*
taking things out of context and misquoting me is utterly pointless so not gonna bother further with this

>>730143386
oh yeah you want proof that i'm who i claim to be. if this wan't a spiderman thread at this point, i would post that but meh. i'm leaving about now anyway.

>>730143449
yeah i'm cool with taht because i don't wanna have that argument rn

>>730143569
lmao neat <3

>>730143870
1. because i have the wrong genitals and overall body shape
2. to be fair it can't be much worse than life is now so go on suffering i guess?
3. never watched it and i didn't "decide i wanted to be female". i discovered that i am female despite what i've been brought up to believe.

>>730144155
BWAHAHA you win

>>730144391
*shrug*

>>730144408
i never said anything about changing clothing. i like "gender neutral" clothing, tomboy-ish, if you will. i'm changing my body because i feel miserable about the body i have.
also i'm 98% sure you are trying to bait me at this point

>>730144856
ignore them mostly. i've actually never encountered someone openly transphobic in real life, only on the internet where they are easy to ignore/block and move on.

>>730144857
thanks, you too! <3

>>730144931
i totally support women to express themselves in any way they want. that doesn't change the fact that i feel sick every time i see my body in a mirror. i want to transition for me, not for society.

aaaand with that i'm gonna go ahead and leave the thread. bye ppl <3

How did spider-man manage to kill this thread? It was a complete text discussion.

>>730145328
>aaaand with that i'm gonna go ahead and leave the thread. bye ppl <3
Ffs you're cancerous, never come back faggot

>>730145328
This right here, I die a bit every time. Love you OP good luck on your endeavors

>>730144931
They are oppressing women by championing the idea that a woman has to look and dress a certain way.

>>730145328
>i never said anything about changing clothing. i like "gender neutral" clothing
see
>>730139070

>i'm changing my body because i feel miserable about the body i have
You are changing your body to look more like you think women should look like. That is buying into the concept of gender roles and it oppresses women all while complaining about gender roles.

This is why you are stupid.

>>730145721
But by doing so, this breaks male gender roles. and if one half of an object is broken then the whole object is broken as well

>>730145721
>They
Just say he. He is biologically male. people are titled by what they are not what they feel.

>>730146364
No, they are abandoning their maleness and implied that they never wanted it.

The male gender role is very much intact by a woman not trying to me man-like.

Transitioning sexes does nothing to fight gender oppression or break gender roles. To truly break gender roles you need to stop abiding by them. If you feel a certain way embrace it and pursue it, do not try to qualify it by latching onto a gender role that suits that feeling.

A modern person should not be afraid of how they feel and should not have to define themselves based on how other people are told to act.

>>730146674
I use the formal plural for people I don't know because that is what it there for.

>>730146884
But sexes don't actually transition, just appearance. A male is a male regardless, and everybody knows that. The effect that he gives isn't influenced by what he thinks is happening. He is still a male taking another gender role which lends itself to the cause that gender roles aren't tied to sex.

Also dude he's OP you know him enough to say he.

>>730145328
>3. never watched it and i didn't "decide i wanted to be female". i discovered that i am female despite what i've been brought up to believe.

Such an absurd amount of mental illness here. Fucking christ.

>>730147690
>I'm retarded and don't know the difference between sex and gender

The fact that their sex doesn't change does not change the fact that they are actively pigeon holing women into a specific role by accepting that role themselves as a way to be more like a woman.

They are rejecting their sex and the expected gender roll they have attached to it for another equally as oppressive gender role. At the same time they are speaking out against gender roles.

The fact that you see a male sex person acting out a female gender role as damaging only to the male gender role is irrelevant. The point is OP stated that gender has oppressed them and been forced onto them so they are changing to another gender roll and they expect that to change things and refuses to accept that this action is oppressive to women because they are demonstrating that the only way to be female is to look and dress like female gender roll norms.

>>730137940
I'd bury my tongue so deep in your ass.

>>730148514
>They are rejecting their sex
No one else sees it this way, most onlookers know he is a male in girls clothes.
>demonstrating that the only way to be female is to look and dress like female gender roll norms.
looks mean nothing and I believe the only thing it demonstrates is that gender role is a choice.
>The fact that their sex doesn't change does not change the fact that they are actively pigeon holing women into a specific role by accepting that role themselves as a way to be more like a woman.
> this action is oppressive to women
Who cares?! Women are driven to do anything men do, and if men refuse to follow a role then women will jump on the bus as well.

>>730148514
>>I'm retarded and don't know the difference between sex and gender
Also If you're gonna be a prick at least point out where you think I displayed this quality.

>>730137940
Oh my goooooooood you look so cute you dont even need hormones to change the fact you look perfect already <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

>>730150229
Wow, just shut up.

>>730149368
>No one else sees it this way, most onlookers know he is a male in girls clothes.
Again your perception is irrelevant here because the argument was about OP's own cognitive dissonance in seeing acting out gender roles as a way of escaping gender roles.

>looks mean nothing
I agree completely

>he only thing it demonstrates is that gender role is a choice
It is.

>Who cares?!

OP does. They stated a clear distaste for gender roles and felt that gender roles had been forced on them and their answer was to follow gender roles which is why I was arguing.

>Also If you're gonna be a prick at least point out where you think I displayed this quality.

You claimed gender roles don't matter because the (genetic) sex doesn't change when gender roles do. This shows a fundamental lack of knowledge about modern gender roles and their complete disconnect from genetic sex.

>A male is a male regardless
>He is still a male taking another gender role

Your shit is all fucked up. I know your point is that gender roles aren't tied to sex but then you go and say that their sex should dictate how they are perceived.