Is windows 10 really that bad? >inb4 linux

I have a $1500 laptop that is practically bricked because the idiots at Microsoft can't figure out how to fix the "100℅ disk usage" issue. Bunch of fucking twats

>>721090017
It's shit like this...

>>721089294
I don't think it's that bad, but windows 7 is better in my opinion

>>721090017
That sounds like a you problem, I've literally never had that problem in any of my devices

>my computer is broken and it's their fault, not mine

>>721090017
Same problem Disc usage and high CPU

>>721089294
It's reeaaaaallly bad. Sluggish AF.getting annoyed. Had a laptop with windows seven but when I sent if in for repairs they refused to give it back so I had to buy a new one with the new windows fuuuuuck

>110 million PCs can't be wrong

they chose their wording carefully. theyre fucking shameless.

im gonna link a website thats completely independent from Microsoft. inside it you can download a "program" that changes settings in your PC so its not "upgraded" to win10 automatically

https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

if you dont trust me, which you shouldnt, just google the site, google the website's creator, etc. that software can save your computer.

fuck microshit

I love it tbh

>>721090223
Not a me problem. I've literally checked it all. From drivers to bad programs to hardware. Apparently this a giant problem in the community and there still isn't a fix. It's a problem with older computers and computers that have really high end hardware and run an HDD it doesn't really happen to those with SSD. It's been suspected that it may be an AHCI issue when they optimized windows 10 for SSD and it fucked up everything for memory and sends ng your computer to do some stupid shit

>>721090341

Your opinion is irrelevant if you can't fix your own laptop. Especially concerning an operating system.

W10 is very cool for common use, i upgraded like 6 months ago and still no problems

>>721090660
Who still uses HDD (unless it is backup)?

>>721090660
2017 and no ssd, sounds like a you problem

ok thx.

>>721090828
i use 2 hdd, i hate this ssd shit, pay twice the price for less memory, fuck me instead

>>721089294
yes, but there is no acceptable alternative so we are stuck with whatever we get

>>721090937
and still no problem with W10

>>721090828
people who dont waste money on shit they dont need

are you gonna argue and say that you need ssds to make windows work? please do

>>721090868
There's no point to having one, that's what having an obnoxious amount of RAM is for
>Inb4 hurrdurr .2 sec boot times

>>721090937
It is worth the money. Once you have it you can't go back. I have a 2T HDD sitting in my case too, but I have not even plugged her into the MOBO

>>721091007
>poorfags
fixed. SSD made windows noticeably more responsive and faster versus my HDD

>>721090868
damn nigger. how can you be so fanboyish and absent minded?

>>721090868
2017 and not being the top 1%, sounds like a you problem

>>721091116
i have an ssd, not everybody needs one

jesus fucking christ

even i dont need it. i got it because im a little bitch that enjoys a fast computer. not everybody is willing to waste their money like i did.

>>721091052
16gb is a meme

>>721091232
I call it invest, not waste. Time=money

Linux fag here. Don't feel like I'm being spied on every time I go on porn.

>>721091255
Fucking Pleb get on my 24gb level

>>721091283
call it whatever you want. not everybody needs one. poor or not.

even if they were poor, thats not an argument. youre just throwing personal attacks like an emotional being, not a logical one.

>>721091302
Is there a good Linux build that supports gaming on steam and origin?

>>721091302
Trump is gonna ban linux for Desktop use.

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>>721091283
>Time=money

...and here you are spending your time with us.

Oops! I mean "investing".

>>721091420
the only acceptable HDD to install OS on in 2017 are hybrid drives

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>>721090660
It's a you problem.

>>721091438
Ubuntu MATE just works.

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>>721091602
same here

>>721091501
who cares what YOU think is acceptable?

a big % of the world still relies on hdd. for microsoft to mess up there is a big fuck up.

>>721091455
>living in america

>>721091722
How much different is Ubuntu from Debian?

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>>721091602
not really possibly just a shit HDD but it doesn't justify 100% disk usage

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>>721091739
>it works for me personally, so it can't be a problem with the software
I realize everyone on this board is underage b&, but holy fuck, you guys are technologically illiterate.

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>>721091602
Sure is a you problem

>>721091872
The software is the control, not the variable.

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>>721091872
yeah, tell me about it. sometimes i forget.

>>721091740
a big % of the world still uses windows XP and CRT monitors too. Quick google search reveals plenty of confirmed fixes for people stuck on 100% disk usage

>>721091829
Ubuntu is dervived from Debian. Think of Ubuntu having more useful features that you would expect to have by default when installing an operating system.

Debian is basic and doesn't really include any friendly graphical software manager and is not great for beginners. Unlike Ubuntu, Debian doesn't make it easy to install proprietary drivers (Nvidia, AMD and some wireless networking cards).

>>721091739
>>721091602
>>721092000
Checked,
Second you illiterate fags I said disk usage not CPU

>>721091740
>a big % of the world still relies on hdd. for microsoft to mess up there is a big fuck up.

Especially for businesses. Many of them big and small want to avoid any OS changes to avoid these problems. I know even some that still run XP, but they're on a intranet, so it's understandable.

>>721091438

No. THE only correct answer. Linux is too diverse and developers are still hesitant to add linux support to their games. Steam works just fine on Linux, but not a lot of games do. Especially not the most recent releases.

>>721092112
Windows XP is a different beast and only Haas a fraction of the background processes this w10 garbage does

>>721092153
Dumb fuck you can see the disk usage on the left

>>721092153
Apparently you are the illiterate one since you can't read the task manager all the way. If you read further down the list you see the discs...

>>721091864
Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.

>My computer has 100% disk usage so it means W10 has shitty optimization!

Go to processes. Sort by disk usage. Post results.

>>721089294
I honestly haven't had any of the problems other people seem to bitch about. I dunno. I like Win10 personally.

>>721092000
real nice never even got dubs when it was important and now got fucking trips

>>721092112
>Quick google search reveals plenty of confirmed fixes for people stuck on 100% disk usage
oh, so there ARE fixes? the other guy was saying there are no fixes to his specific problem. hopefully not true.

anyway, my whole point was that win 10 obviously needs to work with win10

>>721092270
agree windows 10 is chock full of garbage, shit OS but there isn't much choice

>>721092153
You're the faggot who still Ctrl-Alt-Deletes his way into task manager, huh?

>>721092376
>anyway, my whole point was that win 10 obviously needs to work with win10
fucekd that up

>>721090828
>implying getting 6tb worth of SSD storage is practical

>>721089294
If you use multi monitors, high resolution monitors or worse both, it's a nightmare. I have a 2k and 4k monitor setup and the system can't remain stable for over 24 hours. I've tried tons of things too like re-installing the operating system and changing hardware. Everything including the hardware is up to date and should be able to do it. It's a programming issue.

>>721092123
I remember reading that Debian is the rock in which Ubuntu is derived. I know Ubuntu has a huge community support, I was wondering which I could just port from a thumb drive at work just to play minecraft or some basic games that don't need any need for a graphics card. The motive is to avoid working at work.

>>721092479
100gb sdd
6tb hdd
practical

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>>721092343bare
I have to wait for a spike which happens every 30sec to 4 min I've cut my processes down to in like something is trying to initialize but just gets "stuck"

>>721092479
>implying that everyone saves 6tb of garbage onto their computer

>>721092379
Use win10privacy it does miracles

>>721092488
>I couldn't get it to work but it's not my fault.

Multi-monitor setups, regardless of resolution, aren't tied to anything more than their respective drivers.

I've shut down BITS, Window search, Superfetch, Location Search, and a handful of other shit but I can't seem to get my "services" stuff to stabilize

>>721089294
Meh, it's worked alright for me. There was a problem or two early on (I think I had forgotten to install a driver somewhere), but it's been perfectly fine since then. That said, I wouldn't pay money for it, either.

>>721092592
You're installing something.

Installing something writes to a disk.

That requires disk usage.

Those are the causes of the spikes.

Are you retarded.

I quit using Windows 10 because of the automatic updates.

I can leave it asleep but its on more checking for updates than it is being used. But if I turn it off all it wants to worry about is updates when I want to do something else.

Also it somehow figured out my last name and uses it for all that MSN account bullshit, it eventually made my gamer tag my last name and I have to pay them if I want to change it from something I never wanted it to be.

>>721092766
I've built my own desktops and never had and continue not to have an issue with them. It's the prebuilt garbage that usually has all these issues for no really good reason. It's not fluffware because that is the first thing I go to. Next Processes, then drivers, then hardware. I can't find the fuck up.

>>721092848
You can change it once free on Xbox.com.

>>721092699
have you tried everything listed here
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/5gzxvg/100_disk_usage_windows_10_tried_everything_please/

>>721092788
Nigger I know I'm installing shit. I understand that concept. I'm not a complete fucking idiot. YOu wanted to see processes there you go. The disk usage spikes to 99.9% in the "services" tab bullshit when I have them if the issue was installing software I'd know.

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OP, download process explorer from the technet website.

>>721093068
The services tab doesn't have anything regarding usage.

Run resmon.exe

Find the issue

Fix the issue.

Or, better yet, just pirate a copy of Windows 7 if you believe W10 is the cause of your issue.

Or Linux!

>>721093065
Yep, I'm considering rolling back to 7 and saying fuck this

Yep. In addition to the CONSTANT updates, my friend's hp wouldn't work at all if charging, and my acer sometimes gets so laggy i can't play portal.

>>721092788
he might be

>>721093483
>acer
you deserve what you bought

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>>721093182
Ta-da

>>721090247
if you have a pc from windows 7 age you should not go to 10
windows 8 you can get away with

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no problems here

>>721093465
Task Manager> Services> Find DiagTrack > right click and STOP
see if that works

Why would I buy or upgrade a pc to microsofts malware

>>721093973
Popped it off. Honestly this is the part that kind of sucks is it's a waiting game to see when it takes a nose dive for the extended period of time and then trying to find what's going wrong

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It's not /great/, but it's not /bad/. Boots up in 15 seconds.
It's fast as fuck on an ssd.
I have an ok-tier laptop I bought for college that came with windows ten.
Put everything on a terabyte ssd and popped a terabyte hdd into the optical bay cause its 2017 who uses cds/dvds, and added 16 gb of ram.
I had to disable some shit so it wasn't cancer and so it didn't limit my frames in csgo but it works.
I get 100-150 frames on every map.
I ofc have a linux partition for coding and that's speedy as fuck on an ssd.
>>721090017
Try deleting all that midget porn fam

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>>721094514
I fucked up that picture. High ram usage is prolly chrome, it usually sits at 2 gigs

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>>721094729
too drunk later nerds

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Hated it so far. Updates have fixed some of the issues since I got it year ago, but currently dealing with two major issues.

>install something
>random update later W10 uninstalls it for me
and
>shut down
>booting it makes it stuck on login screen until another restart

Also the amount of time I've had to go into the regedit to fix unwanted shit has gotten out of hand. Basic normie users probably don't care about or even notice some of the issues, but as power user (editing, drawing, recording) it sometimes drives me nuts.

>>721089294
Yes. And yes, linux is better. I switched to it a year ago and never looked back.

I think we're abandoning bread

>>721092689
Incorrect but even if it were true it would still be a programming issue. The operating system is tied to EVERYTHING running under the kernel including the drivers.

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>>721092000
also don't have this issue

>>721089294
Cortana is the new evil.....try getting that piece of shit off of your computer

>>721095850
How big are each of those drives?

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>>721095938
it's a mixture of drives at the moment, will eventually buy a few 4TB drives.

>>721090341
>I sent it on for repairs
FICKONG NORMIES get off my board

>ubuntufag here.
As much as I hate windows in general windows 10 with the right optimizations makes their newest operating system by far the best.

>>721092689
The more I think about this the more retarded it gets. Being wrong isn't necessarily stupid but why pretend to understand something when you clearly don't. Why do you think you download a different driver for your particular operating system? You wouldn't even have to know anything about computers to notice that one. You really think even though the operating system hangs and explorer bugs out it must be the graphics driver just because the issue is related to screen size and number of monitors?

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>>721096039
>sluggish AF
sounds like a teen girl too

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>>721089294

If you don't know try dual booting for a while and then decide for yourself. imo linux is nice if you don't need windows only software and you're not afraid of the linux Terminal. Its always good know your OS don't automatically send info to Microsoft about how you use your computer.

>>721096514
>not having KMspico

>>721096514
same here, no real reason to get a crack or license

>>721096574
>not paying for a god tier OS /s

but for real. KMspico that shit

>>721096039
>>>/r9k/

>>721096682
Why pay microshaft when I can pirate my videogame machine.
>linuxisforwinners

>>721092219
It's the opposite. Newer games support linux better. "Linux is diverse" is a misunderstood meme, a game built once will work on many distributions. Especially since most of them are debian based. And don't forget that when given a list of Linux distributions a lot of them are specialized (security, routers, data rescue, anonymity, development, scientific, etc) and those distros are usually irrelevant for actual desktop use. Not to mention a lot of distributions are simply based on another one and just have different default software and UI so they're basically the same.

Examples of how simple it is to build a Linux game
>unreal engine, unity, game maker, godot and many other game dev studios have a native cross platform export. Exporting to Linux is as easy as clicking a button
>Terraria (a popular indie game) fully supports Linux and it was made using Microsoft tools. We all know Microsoft is very anti-competitive and wants to lock down game developers to only export for windows and Xbox, yet terraria can be launched normally on Linux without using tools such as WINE. The Linux variant simply installs windows version and adds a few scripts to launch the game.
>OpenGL and Vulkan are cross platform and work on Windows, Linux, Mac, Android. Any developer who doesn't have a contract with Microsoft can and should use these tools to export to as many platforms as possible.

>>721091438
ZorinOS has WINE and PlayOnLinux pre-installed. It's basically "I'm a windowsfag, the OS". The current release is still in beta since it was released only a month ago so there are a few issues, especially if you don't update immediately.
Other than it you have Mint, Manjaro, KDE Neon and openSUSE m. All 4 are simple for former windows users and work fine.

>>721096856
no DX11 or 12 support so no point

can i update to W10 for free nowadays?

>>721097258
not anymore

The easiest setup
>Ubuntu Host running on integrated graphics
>Windows VM running on GPU
>dedicate two cores hyperthreaded on vm
>gaming on vm ftw

>>721097258
Just pirate it
Make sure KMspico comes with the iso

>>721097256
DX11 is supported, isn't it?

>>721097258
You can't, but you can
>DazLoader
>torrent win10
>use a college account to download education edition for free

>>721089294
I switched from 7 to 10 and back to 7 because 10 had some annoying bugs with the driver for the wireless I was using and would cut my internet at random times, forcing a restart.

I can't stand the layout, too. I feel less organized with 10.

>>721097452
there is experimental Wine support for DX11 but it is not very good

>>721091116
No shit genius

>>721089294
It's not that bad, but windows 8 was fucking shit. Windows 7 was better in its peak, but now it's two releases outdated (I'm not even counting windows 8 because it was so broken the fixes they made were so many it was worthy of being called a new fuck OS) and doesn't work for as many things, and I'm pretty happy with ten for the most part.

>>721090223
when the OS is proprietary, there's only so much you can do

It's fine just use StartIsBack and Antibeacon. Performance gains from 10 + privacy and utility of 7.

>>721090828
>>721090868
>>721090969
>>721091106
>>721091116
>windows 10 is such a pile of crap that you need to buy an SSD and have high end processors to make it work
Meanwhile Linux and W7 don't have this problem.

I'm still using Windows 7 because i'm comfortable with it and don't see any reason to upgrade.

If I get a new PC i'll probably put Windows 10 on it though, it's just I have no reason to go out of my way and upgrade to 10 at the moment.

>>721099434
ssd is a performance gain no matter what os