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trump is democratically elected president, why is everyone bitching

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trump is democratically elected president, why is everyone bitching so much? if you don't respect trump, you don't respect democracy.
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define everyone
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>>719660082
everyone who fancies himself smart
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>trumps clinton
>gets to be president
>"not my president"
>angrycuck.png
>smash others people shit to pieces
>dindu nuffin

Bunch of untermenschen
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>>719660000

>660000
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>>719660000
>THAT GET
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He lost the popular by 3 million votes, so if it were a true democracy not still keeping outdated relics that don't even do what they're supposed to do (stop idiot-chosen demagogues) he would have lost.

Trump is a Russian tool. Clinton was shit. But like it or not, the next 4 years probably won't be that bad.
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>>719660000

most of the bitching is coming from the left who would of threw tantrums and complained regardless

95 percent of the people who protested trump are paid by george soros and could of given a fuck less about the election results
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>>719660000
check, also op is a faggot
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>>719660000
The US is not a democracy. Get educated!
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>>719661816
then who was vote
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>>719660868
Go back to highschool and learn about why the EC is important.
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>>719662021
It's not about voting. If that's all it was then Clinton would have won. She had around 2 million more votes than Trump. That's not democracy
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people keep bitching about clinton and the popular vote,but there's a reason why we dont elect presidents based off in some leftist shit piles like california and new york city think a candidate is popular or not
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>>719662175
if it's such a tie, then it doesn't matter which one is the winner. they're both equal.
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>>719662314
everyone HATES trump, like durr we all fucked now omg
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>>719660868
you need some education faggot. That's not the purpose of the electoral college
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>>719662370
If by that you mean they are both complete and utter twats then yes, they are equal
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>>719660868
>muh popular vote is important when I lose
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>>719662557
trump is a cool twat tho
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>>719662127
Not meming here

I'm a britbong and the EC confuses me. Give me a rundown
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>>719662643
You are delusional. They were the 2 worst candidates in US history
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>>719660000
omg the 4chan God has spoken
Trump is m00t reborn
all hail Trump
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>>719660000
>You don't respect democracy when it hurts my feelings

>but it's okay for Trump not to listen why people are protesting against him
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>>719662314

reagan's from california and the roosevelts came from new york

didn't stop them from getting electoral and popular votes like crazy
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>>719662785
they reflect the times we live in. trump is the peak of post-modernism, i love the fact that he won.
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>>719663037
"peak of post-modernism"? you pretentious cunt
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>>719663166
yeah i'm into heavy shit bro
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>>719660000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOed-P0qmc8
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>>719663037
>post-modernism
Post-modernity, dumbass
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>>719660000

That is ridiculous. We don't have democracy; if we did Trump would have lost because Clinton received more of the popular vote.
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>>719662021
>>719662175
if usa only used the popular vote then California and new york would forever decide who becomes president.
specially California with them using illigals and carting them from vote ballot to vote ballot.

this is the reason that america uses the ec to decide a president, that way the intire country decides and not just California and new york

libtards are just butthurt
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it isn't out of disrespect to democracy that people bitch about trump, it's because our democracy specifically respects bitching about trump
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>>719663265
heave you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vx3_2ks5qQ
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>>719660000
Hitler was democratically elected too. I don't respect hitler, to say the least. I don't respect trump either. Democracies can be flawed.
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>>719660868
It's a Democratic republic, popular vote not required.

Everyone knew it was a race to 270.

You lost a race of Mario Cart and are pissed off because you collected more coins.
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>>719660000
Respect is earned, and he has not earned mine, and if he has your respect as the president after being in office for hours then you are sheeple.
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>>719662726
Basically it allows states a degree of sovereignty by giving them their own weighted geographic representation. It prevents a large urban state from casting rule over demographics that live far differently.
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>>719663573
Except that he wan't. You're missing many important details. Just Wikipedia it ffs
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>>719663666
Don't listen to Satan,kids!
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>>719663805
Thanks
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>>719662851
Lol trump should step down because people are bitching? Why didn't Obama step down then?
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Dat's right, boss.
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>>719660868
>He lost the popular by 3 million votes
dont you fucking think he would have changed his campaign if his goal was to win the popular vote, jesus fuck
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>>719663973
think about what an arrogant cunt he grow up to be
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>>719663466
the ec doesn't have anything to do with illegals, it was a way for the south to retain some power. At the time the ec was introduced we were all illegals you idiot.
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>democracy

wyoming vote matters 3.6x of california vote

nice system amerilards
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>>719660000
HITLER was democratically elected too (nice Quads)
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>>719660000
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>>719663573
>Democracies can be flawed.
Dummycrats are very flawed.
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>>719662127
> losing the popular vote means everyone voted for trump
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>>719663973
he is only 10 but is like 5'8 already..
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>>719664163
Do... do you hear yourself speak or even understand anything that comes out of your mouth? Because it's all retarded giberish.
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>>719660000
Nice Quads, OP
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>>719663249
Post-logic
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>>719664074
>mfw constitutionally limited representative democratic republic.
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>>719662726
Britbong here. If you've ever visited America you'd know it's huge. And inevitably the political climate varies. The EC is designed to give fair representation of political climates rather than number of people, because political climate is what decides a favoured candidate. Trump vs Clinton is actually a perfect example: people living in luxury in California don't care for new infrastructure that Trump has promised, while the men in the poor southern states struggling to find work, even physical labour, want that more than anything else. They want to give Trump his chance to Make America Great Again because that's what he's promised them.
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>>719664360
thank you
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>>719663973
you can tell he isn't used to wearing kevlar yet
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>>719662726
Fuck what that other guy said.

Simply put, it allows less people to have a greater influence in the election.

Hence why most people voted against trump, yet he won the 'electoral college'which is the actual decider.


Also, I really can't wait for him to cut welfare and starve the white republicans who freeload off blue state tax money.

In usa majority of welfare recipients are overwhelmingly whites in red states I'm going to fucking love this
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>>719664374
the universe wasn't built on logic, mate
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>>719663466
There are also republicans in California whose votes would actually count without the EC you fuck wit. Thinking all of California is liberal.
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>>719664074
Democratic household
>we all want some food
>everyone else chooses pizza
>I want some god damn Chinese
>nobody else wants Chinese
>I have to pay for fucking pizza because everyone else wants it
>I go to prison if I don't help pay for it
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Yeah don't blame the rebulicans for the out come! Blame the DNC if your mad but no you got throw a hissy fit in the streets because you didn't get your way and you can't even blame your own party for the fault.
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>>719664593
Would they have been able to win the popular vote then?
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>>719663466
>an extremely small percentage of the population should decide who should be president
>then the "intire" country decides!

Repubtards are just retarded
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>>719664579
I am really shocked to find New York doing worse than Texas.
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>>719662175
Non direct democracy is still democracy, even a better democracy as the Electoral College safeguards all the United States' will.
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>>719664753
Just pointing out how stupid your argument is
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>>719664695
Dude when Obama got elected repubs went apeshit.

Woman ran over her husband and killed him for voting for Obama, tons of shit happened. Don't tell me if Hilary got elected trump would accept it, Hillary is acting better at losing than trump ever had.

Trump literally called for civil war 4 years ago lol. Maybe now he'll get it
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>>719664790
And Texas is worse commiefornia
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>>719662127
There is no Constitutional provision or Federal law that requires Electors to vote according to the results of the popular vote in their states. https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html
Why is it important again? 270 people decide an election each term. You think 270 people are easier to buy off than 200 million voters?
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Fuck the trump from Poland in Europe fuck Andrzej Duda.
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>>719664915
Not the same guy, just pointing out trump would have still lost the popular vote
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>>719665062
This anon is woke
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>>719665062
Nvm those 270 definitely are a lot harder
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>>719662726

America is big.
Really big.

You just won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is.

I mean, you may think it's a long way down the Silicon Valley to the Rustbelt, but that's just the peanuts to America.
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>>719665183
Ylyl
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>>719665233
A lot harder to buy out?
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>>719664947
did the DC police have to throw teargas at rioters at either of Obama's inaugurations? Did dozens of republican congressman boycott either of them? Were there any major protests against him *literally before has implemented any policies*?
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>>719660000
US is not a democracy dipshit. US is a constitutional republic. Go back to school or stop talking about shit you don't know.
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>>719665306
Yeah cause there's less of them so it takes more money
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>>719660000
You understand that respecting democracy isn't the same thing as respecting the man elected by it, right? The two ideas are mutually exclusive.
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Protests are just people expressing their opinions, happens all the time. Especially in America where people are too defeatist to do much else.

I'm guessing this is transference.
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>>719660000
I don't
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>>719663848
He became chancellor within the constitutional provisions of the Whermart republic. It's only after that he turned that (flawed) democracy into a dictature.
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>>719665344
Yeah there were and people got killed for supporting Obama.

The extreme left anarchists hate him too
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>>719665130
No shit, but to think that all of California is liberal is ridiculous, the fact that trump lost the popular vote just means that the majority of Americans are surprisingly not painfully retarded
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>>719665393
Awh you almost got me. Good bait
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Потому что мы привели его к власти. Не вы.
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>>719665497
>>719665497
citations for any of that??
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It's an American tradition to bitch about the president. What the hell are you talking about?
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Wait, If the ec was implemented to help smaller areas have more say, then why is there a sliding scale based on population to determine the number of electorates?

I mean, california, new york, and Texas have about a fourth of the say still.

I could've sworn the electoral college was implemented because our founding fathers thought common people were too stupid to vote for themselves.
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>>719660000
By people protesting and shit they are proving democracy to being working.
If there was a vote and people protested and the protests were shut down, then that is not a democracy.

The beauty of a true democracy is that the power is in the people. Now, is the political side of the US laws a true democracy? No, it's not, it's more of a republic where the rich have more sway in government than the poor and the average worker. In a true democracy Trump would have not won, he would have lost.
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>>719664074
Yup, even though many people believe it so, democracy isn't perfect
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>>719660000
0000 always speaks the truth

also libtards are ruining this country
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>>719665644
Yeah there were people saying there would be a bloody revolution if trump lost.

Those guys along with trumps own stated inaccpance of his loss means of Hillary won things would be worse
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>>719665550
your president is like 4 foot tall. also russia is a shithole.
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>>719665834
And raping your son is much better right Scooter
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>>719665834
How are liberals tuning the country? I don't see them trying to take rights away
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>>719660000
If you don't respect the fact that Trump is president, you don't respect democracy.
FTFY
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>>719665729
>I could've sworn the electoral college was implemented because our founding fathers thought common people were too stupid to vote for themselves.
this is an oversimplification. the founders didn't anticipate the age of coherent unified parties that we have now. They expected it would be typical for each state or region to vote for a favourite son candiate and thus nobody would have a majority, leaving the electoral college to pick the best of them.
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>>719660000
Поздравляю американских друзей, со вступлением в должность демократически избранного президента!
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>>719660000
Quads confirm
>Praise Kek!
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>>719666133
Ah, so they anticipated us to have more diverse ideas then we do now.
Good to know
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8

Fuck Yeah !
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well I don't respect democracy, because of this cancer stupid humanity is ruling MY FUCKING LIFE
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>>719666646
>>>/r9k/
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>>719664787
That's why the more populated states get more EC votes, libtard
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>>719662726
It's in our name: the United STATES of America. The states are an intermediary between the federal government and the people.
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>>719660000

Well, technically, most people didn't even vote, and for those who did, Hillary beat him in the actual vote count.

But, with the way the system works, he won by number of states won.
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>>719664138
>implying
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>>719666001
>freedom of speech
also
>*ruining
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>>719666882
False. If the people were evenly distributed trump would still lose the popular vote (the people's vote)
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>>719666161
Privet Putka!
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>>719666982
>people still bitch about the popular vote.
>It's been proven that system is fucking retarded.
>K
>Y
>S
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>>719667299
>freedom of speech

By banning burning a piece of cloth and kneeling right
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>>719660000
but the sucker isn't nuking the world. so he is bad
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>>719667398
Какой забавный селянин.
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Donald Trump seems to me to just be a bit of a shit cunt. The nicest he's been in life was to Kevin McCallister- and that was all scripted. He's a dud guy to be president. You would have thought America would be ae to produce someone a bit more cool and chill and that.
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>>719667381
If the people were evenly distributed, tens of millions of Americans would be living in and have been raised in starkly different conditions and thus have very different political views, so I don't see what the point is in your hypothetical. Also, if the popular vote were all that mattered, both candidates would likely have campaigned differently, so again pointless to bring it up.
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do you guys think julius caesar was a populist/asshat like donald dumb?
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>>719662314
yeah, it weakens the voice of the only parts of America that matter to the world and gives too much influence to backwards-assed ignorant rednecks. No wonder America has fallen behind in so many categories.
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>>719667855
america died the moment people realized there is no gold/richness to be had in america
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>>719660000
the best thing about trump being president is that its probably the best example there will ever be in playing the long game in espionage. forget the whining about lies and fakery pretty much every intelligence agency is in agreement that trumps rise to president is largely a result of russian interference. All those missiles, subs, tanks, etc and the US has been brought into line with the great bear by some very impressive work by the Russians. The funny thing is they've used the same tactics that failed in Russia to bend the US over and basically get it tied up in domestic introspective bullshit about muslims and immigration. A lot of people will be watching Trump closely during his first term but id be watching the Russians myself. in 5 years time the world is going to look very different
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>>719667924
you are an idiot. russia is not relevant since 30 years ago. it's a scapegoat, nothing more. and it's a bad scapegoat.
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>>719667042
I don't understand the reason for this picture?
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>>719663666
Satan, correct as usual.
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>>719668032
this guy fucking gets it
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>>719667755
he's protegee by Crassus and Pompeius. at last populist, sure.
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>>719665344
I would be shocked if the window breaking and violence was not caused by agent provocateurs. Cops in civilian clothes fucking shit up to give the pigs an excuse to get violent with the protesters.
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http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/woman-runs-over-her-husband-with-an-suv-after-learning-he-voted-for-trump/
This is what liberals are like
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>>719665498
yeah the whole central valley of California is all farmland. farms as far as the eye can see.
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>>719668084
The anon was saying Barron is going to grow up to be a cunt but he's just a cute autistic 10 year old having to adjust to political life.
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the only fear i have is: trump starting a nuclear war
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>>719668493
It was Hillary that was threatening war with Russia. Trump was the one who wants to work with Russia against Islamic terrorists.
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>>719668493
Не бойся. Трамп коммерсант, а не идиот.
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>>719660000
Aside from the get, this is the definition of irony. This moron has everyone laughing. Seriously, nice slow motion vehicular homicide, everyone. Kek.
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>>719668628
if he uses nukes against IS it will be the same nuclear war. and he said he will eradicate is
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>>719667755
Caesar, at least, earned his power.
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>>719668628
He wants to do business with Russia. And to make a profit. Not nuclear strikes.
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Here's the Trump timeline from the viewpoint of the special snowflakes:

1) Trump will NEVER run!
2) Trump will NEVER win the primary!
3) They will NEVER choose Trump at the convention!
4) Trump will drop out!
5) Trump will NEVER beat Hillary!
6) The Electors will NEVER select Trump!
7) Congress won't let Trump win!
8) OBAMA WILL DECLARE MARTIAL LAW BEFORE THE INAUGURATION AND CERTIFY HILLARY AS THE NEXT PRESIDENT!!!

...and within hours, you'll hear this:

9) TRUMP WILL BE IMPEACHED TODAY!!!

>tldr: Liberals moving the goalposts.
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>>719668289

It's just the same old shit disturbers as always, faggot.

Dozens of groups funded by people like Soros... if you haven't figured out what "community organizing" is yet, you're retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjbkYLI1nY
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>>719668774
so I guess Ukraine will be hung out to dry. they may as well start hanging up the Russian flags.
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>>719668873
isn't the ukraine part of the udssr anyway? they should face truth and just go back to russia
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>>719660000

nice superfullhouse mang
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>>719668628
I think Trump will sell Russia that do not need America (Europe, the Crimea, Ukraine, etc.)
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>>719668933
Poland and half of Germany was part of the Soviet Union... send them back, too?
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>>719667855
why are the parts that actually matter not cutting themselves off oh wait they can't survive alone so no they are not the only parts that matter

they are as much able to be independent of the "backwards assed ignorant rednecks" in the us as London is of those in Britain
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>>719668826
the only thing you've convinced me of is that you know how to rattle off all of the old party-line canards. only thing you missed is finding a way to mention al gore's jumbo jet.
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>>719669067
when? educate me because i remember them never being part of the udssr
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>>719669080
we should have taken the opportunity when we had it, but no.... we had to "win" the Civil War.
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>>719664506
Except that because of the electoral college, the minority votes in a state, even if just shy of 50% don't matter at all. Basically, the vote is a complete illusion because of the EC. May as well tally up number of Republicans vs Democrats in a state and have individuals who weren't even elected by the people just decide the vote of their state.
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too bad the only thing trump can do is:
1) go against congress decisions
2) start a nucular war
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>>719668873
If Russia will pay for Ukraine, It's a good deal.
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>>719669391
pay who?
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>>719669207
Ukraine is just a commodity now.
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>>719669230
The electoral College prevents mob rule. It gives every state a say. If there was a simple populat vote, NY City, Los Angeles, and Chicago would decide the presidency and no one else would have a voice.
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>>719669290
Don't forget Pence! That evil MONSTER now has the power to... to... I can barely breath... to CAST A TIE-BREAKING VOTE IN THE SENATE!!!
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>>719664506
Historically, the EC had favored Republicans. It's controversial because you are handicapping the vote of individuals in high density areas for a few farmers in less populated states. Furthermore, the US has never had a popular vote for the Presidential election, so there is no way to know for sure what the actual impact would be on the minority who voted Republican. We know why it was created, but trusting solely on the OPINIONS of our founding fathers is not necessarily the best way forward.
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>>719669290
Congress wants to start a nuclear war?
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>>719669466
Russia will pay America.
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>>719669290
Only Congress has the power to authorize war.
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>>719669505
The states shouldn't decide. The PEOPLE should. Where you live is irrelevant. And your solution is to take the power away from high population centers and give it all to, again, a select few states? Ohio, Florida, etc.
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>>719669613
i usually don't talk to idiots like you (people with IQ below 40). but this time i make an exception:

you are reading it wrong
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>you don't respect democracy
you're right, I don't
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>>719669689
The time to whine and cry over election laws that are over 200 years old is BEFORE the election... not afterward when your side loses.
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>>719669664
this is wrong. all trump has to do is follow his nucular instructions and supply the correct launch code.

YES he can fucking wipe the world if he wants to
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>>719669664
sure
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>>719669505
I know why it was created. You all say the same damn things. CA, NY etc... would control the vote. Who gives a fuck? We've never tried it on the Presidential level, so we don't even know what the outcome would be. Try something first before you dock it. We've tried the EC for a couple of centuries and it's time to do something different. Also, what about in the future? Could you see the US ever getting to the point where nearly the entire country is end to end urban sprawl? What then?
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>>719669505
so basically what you are saying is that the electoral college is an affirmative action program for the hicks.

I thought conservatives hated affirmative action.
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>>719669807
We have been talking about the EC for a very long time. It's not a new topic.
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>>719660000
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>>719660000
FUCKING CHECK'D MY NIGGER
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>>719669617
oh okay. How about I pay my brother for your car?
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Dude the whole voting thing is rigged.You wanna know who chooses the president? The banks you fucking retards so of course there gonna make him win. So they make more money that's what it comes down to. If people started taking there money out of the banks because they dont want trump to be president. You would see Trump get impeached.
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>>719668428

Well his dad is one. Not a good start.
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>>719664579
Although I'm all for cutting welfare. That's a nice doesn't mean shit graph. As of July 8, 2014, the demographic breakdown of welfare recipients was 38.8 percent Caucasian, 39.8 percent African American, 15.7 percent Hispanic, 2.5 percent Asian and 3.3 percent Other. There are 12.8 million Americans on welfare, which is equivalent to 4.1 percent of the U.S. population.
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>>719660000
1. Nice quads there m8
2. I don't respect American democracy. It just doesn't work. Trump was just an example of that. America needs to take lessons from Europe and Japan and Canada.
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>>719669910
Aaand, THIS is why we have the electoral college. So people who discriminate against others who look different, have different jobs or beliefs, cannot dictate a presidency. We're a nation of about 320 million people. A few cities will never have the power to chose for everyone else. You should probably work on your bigotry.
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>>719669689
We'll each state could decide IF the votes of everyone fucking counted. I may as well not even gone to the polls this year because my vote didn't even count. Thanks farmers!
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>>719660868
unlike every other post responding to yours, I actually read it. and I agree.
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>>719669505
The EC is comprised of NON ELECTED individuals voting for the President. Mob rule? How about authoritarians deciding who I vote for.
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>>719670203
unfortunately he would've fought the election battle different if it wasn't for the EC
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>>719670147
And farmers should? Fuck off.
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>>719669707
I think you said it wrong.
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>>719670310
News Flash- America was never a democracy. We're a Federal Republic. I'm sorry you never learned that. I blame schools more concerned with feewings than facts.
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>>719670018
It's okay. if my car really belongs to your brother. I remind you that the government of Ukraine fully US project now
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Pro tip- direct democracy has been a disaster everywhere its been tried for the last 2500 years.
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>>719668032
see, thats how they have done it. you dont even believe they could be involved you are compliant and prepared to defend their position, and Trumps . cuckolded by the mighty bear and you dont even know it. fucking funny
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>>719662726
>>719663805
This isn't it at all. One of the Founders, Alexander Hamilton, explains the purpose of the electoral college in The Federalist Papers #68. The reason it exists is that the Founders did not trust the people to directly elect a person who is "fit" to be President. As Hamilton explains, it's a measure to prevent foreign influence and prevent the people from falling for irrelevant populist bullshit. It has absolutely nothing to do with giving certain groups of voters more voting power.
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>>719670391
Release your anger. Let it flow...
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>>719662127
Thank you so much. Why are people so god damned dicked.
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>>719670444
No, it's a constitutional democratic republic
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>>719670391
The point, my dim friend, is that whoever becomes president has to assemble a coalition of different kinds of people. Just getting the rural vote wont get you there.
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>>719660000
people on the right didn't respect obama. we've been listening to right wing news for 8 years bitching about obama. deal with it you cherry tomato.
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>>719670147
cut the bullshit. you'd still be represented in congress. The Presidency isn't winner-take-all.

Why should the county be represented on the world stage by someone the majority of people do not like?
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>>719670548
pro tip:
>politics is a disaster, no matter what government system is used

there is no system that will ever work with politics involved
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>>719660000
democracy is flawed.
a premise of democracy is enlightened electorate.
sadly, the morons have now outweighed the intellectuals and their votes count just as much. madness.
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>>719670718
Politics exists everywhere there are more than 2 people assembled. I suggest a desert island for you.
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>>719660000
Bingo! We have a winner. Democracy is a failed experiment that has become a sick joke. The best thing about Trump being elected is that it will go a long way toward exposing and destroying democracy. When you let uneducated potatoes aka the masses elect officials you get the likes of Hillary and trump.
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>>719660868
Why do you idiots forget that we live in a democratic Republic. Fucking kids
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>>719662726

The paraphrased version is that electors are actually the people who cast the vote for POTUS.

The people actually vote for the electors who then vote for the candidate they pledged to vote for. Basically making it look like

>Majority of people in Florida cast vote for candidate X
>Electors that have pledged to vote for candidate X beforehand and have been selected to represent their party in the electoral college are then the ones that are actually allowed to cast votes, generally giving that candidate Y amount of electoral votes (270 are needed to secure the presidency)

The electors that weren't picked by the party that inevitably won the state, just don't get to vote.

Granted, a lot of people like to bring up that electors don't need to vote based on what they pledged to vote for (also known as a faithless elector, Hillary Clinton had more of these than any other candidate in like a hundred years.) but generally speaking, electors vote based on who they pledged to vote for, because failing to do so generally puts them in hot water with their party, so it's not an issue, and as far as I know, election has ever been decided solely based on the votes faithless electors (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

Also, many states have laws in place where faithless electors can be fined considerably for going against their pledged candidate.

Finally we come to the WHY of it all. As someone else said, it basically prevents the people in California and New York (both massively populous and pretty much entirely Democrat states that by themselves make a third of the entire Democratic vote) from basically deciding who is going to direct the country for the next 4 years, even though most of the country is vastly culturally different from those places.

I realize that was a bit long but that's as close to a tl;dr version as I could get without glazing over some of the more important bits.
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>>719670833
i recommend using your brain and thing about what i said.

it's quite simple actually. but it's also a hurtful truth.
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US= Republic
US =/= Democracy

We really need to understand the difference and stop calling ourselves democratic
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>>719670936
'thing' about what you said? That aside, i dont have time to waste thinging about fantasy worlds where politics dont exist.
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>>719664818
You are making stuff up. There is only democracy, not "non direct democracy" and something else. Democracy refers to the will of the majority. What we have in the US is simply an electoral college system which by its very nature means we do not have democracy
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>>719670444
I know what the EC is and why it was created. You also fail to mention how the founding fathers didn't trust the people back then to decide the vote. Some people didn't even know who Lincoln was when he was elected. Times have changed, and Conservatism has no place in modern and future society.
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>>719665271
I see what you did there
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>>719660000
QUADS CONFIRMS TRUTH
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>>719660000
The people elected Hillary.
The electoral college elected Trump in spite of the people.
That's fine, but call it what it is. The lesser popular, of the least two popular candidates to ever run for office in this country, appointed to absolute power, because the retarded DNC put an unelectable cunt out there as if she were the only option. Surprise surprise, dumbfucks, jokes on you.

a country that celebrates ignorance and aggression, gets an ignorant aggressive idiot for a president.
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>>719671032
a typo/translation mistake is not something you can strenghen your non existing argument with.

>think
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>>719670715
Because, as stated, we're a federal republic. We're 50 States with a limited representative government. So, in the Electoral College system, the majority of the STATES decide. You might want to read the Bill of Rights...specifically the 10th Amendment:

>The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Serious question- Did they stop teaching all this?
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>>719670738
Worse, the vote of anti-intellectuals in rural areas actually counts for MORE due to an unintended side effect of the electoral college. The Founders clearly never meant for a vote in Wyoming to count the same as 4 votes in New York, but today it does.
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>>719670903


...The United States has never been a democracy though.

Why do people circlejerk about the fall of democracy or whatever like the United States suddenly became a Democratic Republic with an electoral college and all of that?

It's been like this for what, 250 years?
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>>719662021
underrated post
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>>719671068
Idiots always think times have changed. The French thought times had changed, until mobs started dragging people to the guillotines. Times change, people dont.
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>>719670910
Cheers mate

It sounds a bit like our system; where we elect local MPs who then take up seats in Parliament, with the majority party winning the election
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>>719660000
>democratically
Whoa! You're getting a little ahead of yourself.
Shillary won the popular vote, so I don't exactly see how he is "democratically" elected as president.
>inb4 the electoral college
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>>719671133
You still havent made an argument. In what kind of system does politics not exist dum dum?
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>>719668816
THIS
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>>719671132
Well we haven't seen who he's going to be aggressive toward, so we'll see.
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>lost by 4 million votes
>"democratically elected"

He was elected by a republic loosely based on the concept of democracy. He was in no way democratically elected.
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>>719671260
you are so used to politics and politicians that you won't get it once i explain it. unfortunately.

if you are seriously curious think about it yourself.

sorry but this is the only way to make you realize humanities flaw
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>>719667042
Fucking pedo.
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>>719663666
But you will have to listen and do as he says because he now holds the reigns of power in this house.
Get over it.
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>>719671348
19 year old virgin has the world figured out. Do try not to be such a cliche, friend. Short of wiping out humanity, there's no getting rid of politics. Its the way the human animal orders itself.
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>>719671485
what part?
what is politics doing in modern societies?
what is their role? do they fulfill it?

amazingly you will never question it yourself.
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>>719671194
We could easily go back to a segregated society if we wanted to. People do change, otherwise we wouldn't have had the repeal of slavery, prohibition and subsequent repeal, civil rights movement, and gay marriage being legal in all 50 states.
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Let's set aside our political differences for a moment and agree on this...

HOTTEST FIRST LADY SINCE JACKIE KENNEDY
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>>719671613
>>719671485
don't get me wrong. there was a time politics was needed. but we are far past that


right now it exists for the sole purpose of existing and keeping itself alive
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>>719660868
But if Hillary had won the EC you wouldn't be saying anything about the popular vote.
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>>719671139
I took the Constitution test back when our schools were worth a damn. Class of '88.

I know how it works. That doesn't mean I can't complain about our federal Affirmative Action program.
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Call America a republic. But, you also have to call North Korea one too because there is representatives (that is not kim) representing the people. The difference is they're not elected
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>>719671756
What makes you say that?
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>>719671817
kim is elected. forcefully but still
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I was reading Tweets earlier and one mentioned that Trump wanted tanks in the inaugural parade. They wet nuts. I mentioned that JFK had tanks in his parade.
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>>719671778
Hey I graduated 1 year later
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>>719671613
The problem you are having is you havent defined politics. Maybe you mean political parties, I dont know. But the definition of politics itself is "the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power." The word politics derives from the Greek "affairs of the citystate".
If you have a government, and anywhere you have people you have a government (named or not), you have politics.
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>>719671286
We haven't seen in practice, but unless the man is a serial liar (which there is strong evidence for) he's going to disregard everything that the majority of the country wants and only represent those with conservative views.
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>>719660868
You're right about the 4 years not being that bad. We watched the inauguration at work (perks of a small office) and some bitch ran out crying.
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>>719671186
People have the idea we're a democracy because we just spent half a century and trillions of dollars traipsing around the world blowing peoples heads off under the banner of "spreading democracy", when in fact what we have is a federal republic, completely insulating the country from democracy.

It's handy lip-service paid to rule by the people, while functioning as an aristocracy. ...which, funny enough, is exactly what the culture that invented democracy replaced it with immediately after inventing it, though, in their case, it was to insulate them from the input of the Idios, or "private people" not up to speed and engaged in the culture. If you wanted to be an ignorant farmer, that was fine, but you don't get to weigh in on what Athens should do.

We've taken the opposite tack, giving isolated farmers more of a vote than those most actively engaged in determining the direction of the nation.

Made sense in the 1700s, when this was an agrarian burg of educated landowners and ignorant drunks and outlaws, but hasn't held up well with the massive reversals in US cultures.

An idea can be as grand and noble as it wants, but if the majority of the people don't find it's working for them, it's only a matter of time before they replace it.
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>>719671922
not only parties but the latter part of what you wrote. imagine a world without these bits.

you would be amazed
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>>719672015
>We watched the inauguration at work (perks of a small office) and some bitch ran out crying.

makes everything that ends up happening worth it.
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>>719670021

You're a fucking moron.
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>be trump
>at moscow ritz carlton
>presidential suite
>melania is in manhattan
>bored
>try to fap
>can't get it up
>call room service
>hire three dominatrix prostitutes
>they make you lay on the bed
>fully clothed
>they're drinking champagne and mocking you
>they get up on the bed
>walking on the bed
>straddling your body
>stepping on your crotch
>dick twitches
>they're each on their second bottle
>tell them obama slept in this bed last week
>they talk about how much they hate him
>dick twitches again
>they want to defile the bed so it will be destroyed
>urine starts to flow
>it's habbening!!!
>they're pissing all over you
>it's soaking through your suit
>so warm
>stream hits your face
>dick is titanium
>they notice your tiny bulge and mock it
>one of them has to shit
>squats over your lap and lets loose
>it's runny but there are big chunks
>smells fucking horrible
>you grab a chunk and taste it
>dick is diamonds
>beg them to let you fap
>they make you use the shit as lube
>furiously rubbing micropenis
>they take turns pissing in your face
>unintelligible moans emanate from your mouth
>OOOOAAAAHHHHHHAAAAHHHHHHH
>they're laughing at you
>OOOOOOAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAAH
>HAOOOOOHAOOOOOOHAAAHGHHH
>they laugh even harder
>OOOOOOBAAAAAMMMMAAAAA!!!!!
>cum buckets
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>>719671830
Because both sides knew it was a race to 270. Both sides had agreed that the EC would determine who would be president. Yet as soon as Hillary lost popular vote becomes the biggest thing ever, and the EC was unfair.
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>>719660000
wut
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>>719672030
Look bud, if in your anarchistic paradise, you and your neighbor decide to split the use of a well, that is politics. You dont understand that?
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anyway. going to sleep. politics is the cancer of our modern societies. trump or not. we need to get rid of politics
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>>719671756
then she'd have won both the popular vote and the EC. why would they bitch?
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>>719672078
Maybe you should practice empathy. It can open you up to an entire new world of pussy.
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>>719662021
>then who was vote
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>>719672175
it's not about anarchy. it's more about not needing some idiots to change laws and shit all the time on their mood.

let's think about it differently. maybe it will be clearer that way:

is there a need to make new laws every month?
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>>719672201
Oh stop it you
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>>719660000
Quads of truth have spoken. So let it be written, so let it be done
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>>719672284
No there isnt. But thats a detail of a particular government system. To put it another way- is it a good idea to make all laws that can never be changed under any circumstance? Well if not, you need politics. Hell, you need politics just to decide on the laws in the first place.
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>>719662726
The states and the federal government are closer to European countries and the eu than provinces are to most countries.
That and the ec makes it so politicians don't just cater to the top 5 cities and abandon everyone else. Take new Zealand for example, the main cities do well while the other cities are shitholes.
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>>719672251
>Maybe you should practice empathy. It can open you up to an entire new world of pussy.

In my experience, the opposite is true.
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>>719660000
As an European, what right do the libcucks have to bitch if voter turnout was only 54%?
>also nice digits
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the best politician / president is one who doesn't do anything and the world still stays the same.

the worst one is one who does something and makes the world worse, even a tiny bit
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>>719660000
quads speak truth
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>>719672163

This. Why does the complaining about the EC start only after their favorite candidate lost?
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>>719660000
>gets 2 million votes less than clinton
democratically elected
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>>719672439
you know that the judiciary is doing that job, right?
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>>719660868
We're a constitutional democratic republic. Also, remember to occasionally get a new tinfoil hat since the Russian rays wear down on older ones.
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>>719672603
because americunts are americunts
the system always sucked balls
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>>719672625
First- doing what job? Second- how do you think judges are selected?
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Looking for girls to watch me fuck my ass with a huge dildo, pm me if interested
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>>719672621
Dumb cunt. You've got to subtract the 3 million illegals that voted.
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>>719672726
related
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>>719672760
ok so 5 million votes difference, what's your point?
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>>719672722
no sorry. you are intentionally an idiot. it's not hard to figure out a system without politics. and you know what. it doesn't require extremes like anarchy or dictatorship to be much better than what he have right now.

if you fail to think for yourself. WELCOME TO BEING A LAMB IN THE LAND OF THE TRUMP
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checked and decked
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>>719660000
He wasn't democratically elected. He was elected by a system that gives people in certain rural areas 4 times the voting power of people in urban areas. He lost the popular (democratic) vote by a lot. He only became President because he won the weighted (electoral college) vote. Unfortunately for him, approval ratings are not weighted. That's why you're seeing massive protests and low turnout in the audience at his inauguration.

Nice quads, though.
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Any girl wanna fist me? Pm me
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>>719672846
child- it is IMPOSSIBLE to image a system without politics. You cant even seem to do it in broad strokes. Some people have to make laws, and enforce them, and judge them. Whoever those people are THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF POLITICS. You dolt.
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>>719672833
>he doesn't know what subtract means
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>>719672954
no, he won because god(putin) willed it so
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Free Ana l show for gurls
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>>719660927
> paid by George Soros
This is replacing "obama is a kenyan" for dumb go to conservative conspiracy theory, isn't it?
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>>719672030
I don't have to imagine it. I've seen it. Sociologists are studying the LHC specifically because nearly all of it is not structured whatsoever, and functions best in an ad-hoc anarchistic chaos. It seems to run against the grain of everything we know about the primitive human social mind, but, over many previous organizations requiring that much cooperation, they found this lack of traditional human hierarchical structure greater enables the free flow of information, increasing the rate and quality of discoveries and solutions to problems. This is also how certain space stations have functioned, and occasional antarctic research stations have functioned from time to time, between periods of asshole governments stepping in, exerting their influence and fucking everything up.

Too bad society isn't full of individuals as intelligent and committed to cooperation and pure research as, the most intelligent people on earth...
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>>719660000
Quads have summed up the problem.
The uneducated masses have come full circle. They officially believe fascism is democracy.
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funny how voting by electorate was never an issue before

libtards are largest hypocrites on the planet
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>>719673012
>doesn't get joke
>ur un idiut hurrdurr
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>>719672621
Not all votes were counted, absentee ballots are not counted unless the race is close enough to justify it, absentee votes traditionally go about 66% Republican. The united states is not a strict democracy so it doesn't even matter, gr8 b8 m8, I bit, now go fuck yourself to death.
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>>719673012
btw, if the system allows illegals to vote, it's still a shit system
>>
So, obviously the implication that no one was upset about Obama, and no one would be upset if it were Hillary, isn't even worth dismissing.

But how else are people supposed to form political collectivities and become conscious of the political situation, so that when election day comes around they're actually able to act meaningfully?
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>>719673035>>719673042
>>719673034
Any girl wanna watch me fist my ass? Pm me
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>>719673035
the Large Hadron Collider? Errr, what?
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>>719673074
>no! I'm trolling you!
>>719673123
Which is why we need voter ids.
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