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Hey b, im thinking about transitioning, i know where to get estrogen

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Hey b, im thinking about transitioning, i know where to get estrogen and all but foes anyone have tips, or anything i should watch out for, any bad side effects, im 18, i really tiney with like a small everything but my bum is ok, im worried about being passing too.
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>>717637410
>im worried about being passing

You won't
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your english is pissing me off more than the faggy stuff
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>>717637606
Sorry m8, i was crying as i was typing that also im half asleep
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post nudes or gtfo
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>>717638140
why the hell were you crying, weirdo?
is it aids?
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>>717638688
Best i can do is post legs
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>>717638897
Stuff and things... Life is shit
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>>717639031
life is terrible but still finding time to play dress up kek
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For a start estrogen on it's own isn't enough. you also need to block the effects of testosterone on tissue reduce the conversion of testosterone to DHT. Without knowing the levels you have you won't know a safe dosage. Really you need to see a doctor but it'll be at least a year before they start HRT
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>>71763930
Dress up?, What do you mean, im not a cross dresser
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>>717639521
pretending to be a girl, silly
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>>717639448
I wanna start now, i hit puberty late so in a year ill be all fucked up
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>>717639623
Like actually fuck you, you have no idea
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>>717639218
Source?
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Moar ?
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>>717641144
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>>717640360
They want to make sure that you A) wont commit suicide as rates are very high and B) that you really want to transition (as going back can require surgery after breasts develop and it may effect your ability to have children)

Transitioning on paper is quite easy (depending on the country you live in). You definitely won't find a good surgeon who will do the operation on throat (reduce adams apple) and genitals unless you have been transitioned for a few years.
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>>717637410
Hi, I'm going through the process myself and seeing an endocrinologist soon. You should check out local LGBT groups, as you will find that many people go through the same issues you've no doubt experienced. They can also point you in the right direction for the necessary medical and legal changes. Good luck and don't let the world tell you who you should be!
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>>717637410
Your bum is more than okay. I wanna eat it
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>>717641540
I dont wanna get surgeries tbh, im scared of them, and im gonna kill myself anyway, also i cant go through the official rout without it becoming a gigantic shit show in my family.

Oh and if i do retransition which i probably wort, im afraid that id be damaged forever or something like you said
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Look into taking a high amount of isoflavones daily because it gets your body to produce natural estrogen rather than having to inject it or taking pills that are addictive. Red clover is a high source of isoflavones and very affordable and easily accessible online
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>>717641734
That aint me
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>>717642633
How effective is that, do i still need to use t blockers
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>>717642317
There are some things you can do without drugs.
Hair removal, waxing or epilators are best for short term. Or you can have you hair permanently reduced with lasers. Good make up can do a lot for the shape of your face.
Voice training takes a long time to sound realistic. You can get a voice coach or practice "voice shadowing" someone you want to sound like.
Women tend to have larger hips and men tend to have larger shoulders. Choice of clothing can disguise this but there's some other things you can do. Exercises like side lunges can help improve the look. Corset training reduces the size of your mid section over time so your hips look bigger.
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>>717643172
But im still a dude, that just makes me a cross dresser, i wanna actually look like a girl without make up and stuff
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>>717643065
Isoflavones are a type of phytoestrogen. The other 2 types are coumestan and lignans. At best they are about 1/300th of the strength of human estrogens so transiting on these is probably impossible. Fungi produce stronger estroges but as far as I know they are very toxic. The commercial stuff they use is normal estrogen from mammals (filtered out from horse piss).
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>>717643757
Corset training physically alters body shape after time (even when you're not wearing it).
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>>717644234
Oh horse piss, lovely, so whats the strength of the stuff your talking about, is it possible to get like pills made from it, also i still have to take t blockers
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>>717638663
Sauce?
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>>717644409
Is there any way of decreasing the width of shoulders
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are the pics above OP? I need more. With face. Sauce has cute sexy face.
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>>717642633
>>717644234

that stat is not entirely accurate. It all depends on Dosage. I take around 800 - 1000 mg of red clover daily and see results within a couple of days. I'm sure if you take more it will be even more dramatic. red clover has potenitally 10 times the amount of isoflavones than any other source. you will need to reduce testosterone, so what I usually do is also drink redwine, beer with high amount of hops, smoke marjuanna, and masturabte frequently everyday. :3 I also take 1000mg of biotin for hair and nails. Men and women look at me all the time and comment on how good I look. There are other ways of course but this was my way of doing it
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Time stamp?
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>>717644776
Not that I know of it's determined by bones
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>>717637410
nice skin and body. you sure pass bb
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>>717645894
I dunno if your trolling, what were the results
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>>717644234

I don't think natural estrogen produced by your body are actually phytoestrogens... (sort of a pseudo estrogen that goes directly into your blood) but I could be wrong.. phytos come from flax seed oil and other food/oil that have it in the actual content and doesn't trigger your body to produce natural estrogen.

There some other things you can do like taking cow uterus pills or something like that... I think it's called spironolactone. But that sounded gross to me because I'm vegan... (another way to increase estrogen and reduce testosterone)
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>>717644561
Spironolactone is commonly taken to block testosterone activity (which needs to be done). You also need a source of estrogen. Horse estrogen is marketed as premarin.
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>>717639031
okay, this all bullshit and you're going to get trolled hard because you're stupid enough or desperate enough to post here.

and why am I being that guy but whatever, dude, if life is shit - that is NOT the time to be making a life altering decision. This is not, what the fuck I'll just be somebody else. That will just make it much, much worse. Fix your head first, then, if you want to become a fuck bitch, we'll gladly abuse you. if you become one now, you will be all whiney and crybaby-ish, we fucking REALLY hate that.
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>>717646665
phyto are the ones from plants. I was saying they are less potent than human estrogens
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Use this:
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>>717647031
Some people like it. Not me, but you know somebody likes it.
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>>717646838
Are you trans,

Can someone like guide me through this
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>>717637410

hormones will help as the fat redistribution will change on your face and body after about a year and a half.

Also I transitioned and have had the most amazing pussy since. Apparently lesbians don't count transgirl dick as dick.
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>>717647031
Im not a cry baby, i hardly ever complain, all i really want is to be a girl and find a boyfriend and just basically be his, also i have other dreams. I hate being a boy though, it feels fucked up when i look in the mirror
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>>717647421
Okay
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>>717646388
as I said I was doing more than just taking red clover so my results were a combination of a lot of methods.

I'm also vegan for one. I use a topical cream mixed with teatree and lavender oil (which have been known to increase breast size after daily use)

General results are everything you'd hope to see... softer, more glowy skin. breast size increase (as well as that feminine boob hang) biotin really haleped with the hair and nails. I've always had a more feminine voice so that one was already down.

I had gone to an LGBT group council session where A LOT of male / female in betweeners were totally eye balling me and trying to hook up with me.

Everyone's different though. I don't really have any good reason to be posting any of this so I'd say if you think I'm trolling.. do your own research. :3
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MORE PICS PLOX
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>>717647344
No, I have just a few trans friends. If you live in a city there will be people who can guide you through transitioning without you family knowing at first. Really you should have a blood test first to make sure the drugs you are using will be safe.
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>>717637410
Might I propose leaving a fetish as a fetish and not making a horrible life decision?
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>>717647421
fucking

ew
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>>717647980
Could i get your kik so i could talk to you please
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>>717648513
yeah, old picture. still doesn't change fact i'm getting prime girls. fucking neet.
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>>717648234
Ok
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Bump
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>>717648794
you're implying that you owe the fact that you're getting "prime girls" to you transitioning, but the reality is that you're a fucking retard that lives his life accommodating his mental illness in a spectacularly unconvincing manner
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>>717649241
not really, i have an amazing job, no i am trying to dispel the idea many try to throw around here that no one will love you anymore and such. It is you who have issues for obviously being closeted, or should I say basemented.
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>>717649496
did i comment on your job? everything i said was true despite your predictable insults xD
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Bababump
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>>717648710
Sorry I don't have a kik at the moment. what do you want to know?
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>>717649845
Like what you use and stuff, some method of communication would be good cuz im not confident in doing this myself, btw im also a vegetarian but i dont drink
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>>717649747
um no, i have no mental illness, the only illness that comes from it is the fear i have of being 1 in 8 to be murdered each night, faggot.
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It's unfortunate that you were born in a time when your mental illness is left untreated out of fear of reprisal from politically correct bullies. Now you are deciding to mutilate yourself and wreck your immune system with drugs and hormones and a instead of getting help you are getting accolades.

This is a fucked up new world and you are going to fit right in, until cancer kills you in your 30's. But at least you can look forward to all the cancer pity you are going to reap.
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>>717637410
>i know where to get estrogen and all but

where are you planning on getting it from? presumably without a prescription...
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Barumpabump
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>>717650202
the fuck are you talking about, i know trans people in there 50's that are fine.
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>>717650202
under the first scenario where the world revolves around you, we would kill ourselves way before age 30

"mutilating" our bodies as you like to put it is exactly the help we need to live a happy productive live well into our 30s

i feel bad that you are so angry and lost, perhaps you are the one who should seek help

either that or step up your troll game, it blows
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>>717640957
Ignore the degenerate retards but also don't use /b/ for advice, at least go to /LGBT or something
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>>717650712
Ok, im just used to being here
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>>717650025
That's good you don't drink because youre 18 right?

You have to make the decision on your own if you want to transition. I can't walk you through it. There are group council sessions available that I suggest you attend. I got mine through my psychologist.

Everything I use has been posted so take notes.

http://www.pipingrock.com/red-clover

To be honest you can find most of the ingredients from in-store menopause formula. but it can be expensive.. which is why I switched to online stuff. The one I started with was called estro soy plus.about 20 dollars a bottle with like 30 capsules.

Ever heard of Nato? it's a japanese dish (fermented soy bean) and your body absorbs it much more quickly.
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>>717645894
red clover is a fairly good source of isoflavins and coumestans for weight...when dried....but that's a lot of red clover. I can see 800-1000 mg reducing testosterone level but that alone wouldn't be effective enough per weight (otherwise we'd have loads of trans cattle which consume a lot more for their weight).

Masturbation doesn't effect testosterone level over long periods of time. Alcohol and marjuanna do but would be less effective than something like glycyrrhizin.
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>>717650543
Thank you, shit like this makes me think that im gonna drop dead fron transitioning
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>>717642647
What is that?
I see these all the time but never go.
Inb4 new fag
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>>717651010
So is it a better idea to just take the normal medication, im afraid of my penis and nuts dying
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>>717651068
naw it will still be suicide. the transitioning wont kill you
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>>717651373
What majes you soo sure that i will, actually if my family excomunicates me and the after transitioning i end up looking like Frankenstein, i well kill myself
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>>717651010
"effective enough" is subjective phrasing and based on your opinion.

The idea is you do a combination of methods rather than relying on only one.
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>>717651574
that was my point, the HRT wont give you cancer

still being unhappy with who you are will be the one that gets us all
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>>717637410

Don't do anything irreversible like surgery or hormones, because TG hit the wall like a decade earlier than real women, so you'll end up going back to being a man or killing yourself if that isn't possible when you realize you won't pull any attention even from desperate drunks anymore.
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>>717652007
at least you got 10 more good years in though
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>>717652007
>desperate drunks
The world will always be full of desperate drunks. It truly is a marvelous place.
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>>717650893
Ok ill look inyo everything, thanks
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>>717651350
"normal" medication aka estrogen pills WILL shrink your penis and are addictive. red clover, and isoflavins, haven't shrunk me at all, though I have less fluid when I ejaculate. ( but yeah that could als be de to alcohol, marjuanna, and masturabation everyday ... heh..)
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>>717652405
they do not shrink your penis, that is absolutely wrong
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>>717652007
What please elaborate
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I have the runs
Just wanted to share that with you guys
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>>717652405
Ok, again i dont drink so how would i reduce the testosterone
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>>717652405
>>717650893
>>717647980
>>717646665
>>717645894
>>717642633

you're welcome :3 glad to help. these were my posts for reference. and good luck..
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>>717651350
penis and testicles don't die under treatment (testicles shrink and after a few years of treatment you become irreversibly infertile).

There is not documented evidence that I know of, of someone transitioning using "alternative medicine". On there subject I know of 1 medical case where a man grew tits after drinking very large quantities of soy milk (high in isoflavones) (although this didn't effect testosterone). I believe similar levels of isoflavones have been shown to not be effective on their own which means something more complex was happening in that case.
There's also a paper there prepubesent boys (low testosterone) started to grow breasts after using tea tree oil.

There isn't a whole lot of research in the area and the known methods are far better. If someone has found away of transitioning without using plants it's probably an unknown mechanism effecting the aromatase (which is responsible for converting testosterone to estradiol)
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>>717653130
Thank you
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>>717652509
I've read plenty of stories about impotency and shrinking after estrogen pills. Haven't heard any about not shrinking... care to enlighten?
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>>717652945
energy drinks and high caffeine intake will do it if you can manage it. You could also try avoiding Zinc or possible taking too much zinc but becareful about that because you can cause liver damage or die
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>>717653144
So if i change my mine in a year, i can still go back without any major side effects and taking the medication is a better idea then alternatives
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>>717651068
https://medschool.vanderbilt.edu/lgbti/key-transgender-health-concerns
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>>717653511

shrinking doesnt occur. what does occur is your ability to have spontaneous erections and your ability to maintain erections. so your limp dick that no longer gets a workout appears to be smaller.

think of it like getting in cold water. its nothing permanent
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>>717652945
Prescription drugs are the best.

As I said glycyrrhizic acid (found in liquorice root) has been shown to have this effect. Although more than about 20 grams of liquorice root would be dangerous for other reasons (in candy terms that would be about 500 grams of soft candy).
Large quantities of diindolylmethane (found in some vegetables) might also work but that's would be pushing it a bit.
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You guys are actually really helpful
Thank you all
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>>717654018
STDs that high

we are just fucktoys to most
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>>717655067
I dont wanna be that, im still a Virgin even though i had more then enough operations, i just wanna find the right guy
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>>717655279
post pictures of yourself so we can fap to you
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>>717654006
Not exactly. After a year most of the fat redistribution would be reversible without surgery with the exception of areas like breasts which tend to grow more. Gynaecomastia can effect men who haven't had estrogen so surgical reductions isn't an uncommon operation. After a year you would probably still be fertile if you stopped (depending on dosage) but fertility is very complex.
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>>717655497
hair loss treatment pills are DHT blockers

gynecomastia is a side effect LOL

so you have hair an a tight little rack
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>>717655497
This. you rock for being honest. "normal" medication is something you should consider only if you are 100% about transitioning, which is why the alternative methods are more favorable for starting out
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>>717655497
I don't care about boobs, its more about fertility, i just wanna have the piece of mind of going back i guess
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>>717645894
I've been taking like 200mg of isoflavones, 2g/day of hops, and 1.5g/day of 4:1 red clover for like 3 months now and haven't seen anything. Maybe improved skin. I just bought a bunch of pueraria mirifica powder and started taking that though. I've maybe got a bit of testicle atrophy, and I've noticed I don't cum as much either though, so maybe it has done something.
I'm not even sure I want to go through with this anymore though. If I went full trans it would obliterate my entire family, social life, and potential careers. Even if I grew tits from messing around with hormones I'm sure it's just as bad.
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>>717655444
This is ls all your getting, sorry.
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>>717656346
sexy fuckin legs
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>>717656180
I kinda in the same situation, accept i wanna transition, i think i can hide it from my family for now cuz i already look like a bitch
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>>717656489
Thanks, shy emoji
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>>717656135
heres a transformation for you

early HRT transition
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>>717656753
full implants
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>>717656788
de-transition post implant removal

note the scars
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>>717656753
I wanna know that i can go back if it doesn't work out, if i end up looking like that i dont think id wanna go back
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post a photo with out face.
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>>717656844
>>717656788
holy fug what a waste
Even had a female belly button and abdomen
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>>717656180
Everyone is different and it can be difficult noticing changes on yourself since you see yourself everyday. I mentioned that I'm also vegan which is huge factor, and I use a topical lotion with added tea tree and lavender oil. I also do things to cut testosterone like caffeine, beer and wine and marajuanna daily.

I've been fortunate to have a sucessful career path in the video game industry and told my family I was gay for simplicity... Most of my friends trailed off onto their own paths and don't talk to me anyway. Overall I feel a little embarassed sometimes around my family and coworkers but i haven't experienced too much negativety. Honestly I attract way more women than I ever did when I wasn't taking these steps
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YO op

Why?
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>>717657132
Well I am gay and most people know but where I live it's generally not socially acceptable to be very feminine. It's kind of one the reasons I've always been unsure if I'm trans, while I do want a feminine body and I basically look like a skinny twink my personality is fairly masculine and I don't think I could even fake being fem.
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>>717657411
>>717656788
>>717656753
name?
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>>717657595
if you put a little effort into it im sure you can figure it out
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>>717657337
Man thats a tough question, iv had this all my life, but i part of me feels like this idea was planted in my head, but i also have a tendency to doubt myself, i also have realky extream anxiety and depression, anyway, i dont wanna age like a man.....
Heres my face, kinda
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>>717657777
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>>717656725
wanna talk on Kik?
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>>717657735
good thick hair.
shoulders and jaw aren't very wide.
hip to waist?
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>>717657415
well fuck being socially acceptable. Set trends and watch how many people will follow. Being gay isn't the same as being trans... I'm actually still only attracted to feminine qualities and a lot of gays are only attracted to masculine. So if that's not you then... no big deal .... do what's natural for you, and maybe consider moving to new areas if the place your at isn't working out. west coast America isn't too bad for trans
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>>717658176
Unless you can help me with my problem, i have no intention of handling out nudes.
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>>717658184
My waste is thin, my hipes are fairly wide, my waste is like 26 yo 27 inches
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>>717658330
I said talk not nudes, the comment for your legs was my first in the entire thread, I'm attracted to you. not just sex.
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>>717658657
Ok zad3r, its a dumpster fire
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>>717637410
things to look out for

>mental illness
>everyone else
>America, stay out of there for your own good.
>mental illness
>mental illness
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>>717659082
Im in Europe
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>>717658212
I'm probably just going to keep taking the phytoestrogens and see what happens. I bought them in bulk powder form and just put them in capsules myself. It was cheaper than buying bottles but I had to kind of take the plunge and buy like almost a years supply lol
They do seem to be something I think. My skin is certainly really really improved so I guess it's worth it for that. No boob growth or anything, which I guess is good cause I just want a more fem body without having to suffer through never being able to remove my shirt again for the rest of my life.
I live in Canada in the prairies and being gay here is alright but people still aren't exactly accepting if you go against the norm for your gender even if you are gay so I've generally always been kind of "mannish" I guess at least in public. If I'm with guys I still like bottoming and being more fem I guess but overall I'm still an autistic nerd so it's all pretty awkward lol
If pueraria mirifica does what all the advertising claims it does my life is going to be a clusterfuck in a few months if I get tits though. I'm thinking it's mostly just internet advertisers slewing lies though.
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>>717637410
sweetie, you'll be fine. get with a doctor, go the legit route. HRT is a hell of a drug. do some squats for your butt :3
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>>717659162
thank god. stay there. i dont want your kind here. also, kill yourself you loser. no one cares for you. parents hate you. you got no real friends. you live in a dark room constantly. just end it.
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>>717659262
Thanks
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>>717659262
>sweetie

use anon if anything.
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>>717659218

I live in southern canada (north dakota) and people here are open to just about anything. Don't get me wrong, I am straight, but most people are chill about it.
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>>717659218
I don't think the phytoestrogens will help a lot but this paper might help you if you haven't seen it http://www.nutrition411.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Phytoestrogen%20Content%20of%20Foods%20Consumed%20in%20Canada,%20Including%20Isoflavones,%20Lignans,%20and%20Coumestan.pdf
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>>717659300
I hope you know your words have an effect
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>>717659474
no they arent. just the people you know seem "chill" with it.

most Americans hate this shit. Mentally ill faggots. We need to stop supporting their self destructive habits.
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>>717659655
i hope you are right
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>>717658910
ill be the fuckin judge of that
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>>717657735
anxiety and depression sucks...I know. you seem like a decent human being which this world needs more of. Don't let people get to you, there will always be ones try to bring you down no matter who you are. There are no universal perfects... only perfect universes... so be the best you that you can be
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>>717659742
I hope you figure out wherever issue you have
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>>717658544
what is that in women sizes? that does sound big and women with big hips is a thing.
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>>717659900
i'm a realist and i love my life. I despise morons who are too fucking ignorant.

Social media and modern technology is creating lonliness and in that alone room people are so disconnected with real life they feel unaccepted. So to fix that feeling they want a new physical body.

If they just get out of their basement they'll discover a life for them.

Get real faggot.
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>>717660114
I said my waste is 26 to 27 inches, my hips are ok, like wide in comparison,
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>>717659896
>be the best you can be.

be you not a fake her. Also it looks gross and you will not be happy. Dont do this or transition. Just embrace your gender you were given. Accept life and move on. If not, just fucking end it.
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>>717659585
I already know quite a bit about phytoestrogens. I've researched them quite a bit to make sure the quantities I'm using are safe and everything since I'm going a little above what most take. But I guess isoflavones have been used for prostate cancer into like 800-900mg/day amounts just fine, some guys got gyno though.
I know they're not exactly going to do a lot but I bought them cause I'm basically on the fence about everything. I don't want to take AAs and estrogen because the effects are quick and then I'd have a lot of explaining to do to family and doctors all in a short time frame even though I'm just kind of trying to test the waters. Plus I'm not sure if I actually want to transition, I'd be okay staying a guy if I didn't end up with huge fucking tits that I had to hide everywhere lol
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>>717660238
Ok, heres the short answer, im in college, doing pretty well, my future is pretty mset for me, i have no shortage of good trust worthy friends, i actually just moved out of my parents place, basically the exact moment i turned 18, i think im doing pretty good, how about you.
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>>717660517
just be a guy then. if you are this concerned about turning into a monster then stop. just stop it all. no more research, no more "testing the waters."

Just be a guy and get on with your life anon. Quit staying inside and go do something. You look physically fit. Go hiking and find yourself. I promise it isnt in a pill bottle.
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>>717658910
I looked at your pic and I'm the dude you talked to before, maybe 6 months ago and you lived in Ireland at the time. I quit talking to you because I was dying at the time but I don't think I mentioned that.
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>>717659821
Whats that supposed to mean
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>>717660764
what are you even talking about?

on the subject of transition.

quit leaning that way. nothing better or good will come of it.

I'm 30, great career, married, two kids. I love my job. I love my hobbies as well.

I know it seems I'm being cruel but someone here has to stop your stupidity.
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>>717660114
>27 inches
thats size 4 to 6. thats not big.
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>>717659218
That's cool do your own thing... maybe CD for your man if you both enjoy it..From what I understand the phyto estrogen will help circulate estrogen throughout yourbody while isoflavones will get your body to produce more of it. There's a lost of foods with isoflavones in it, but red clover is a lot more potent.

Foods with isoflavones:
http://www.isoflavones.info/isoflavones-content.php
>>717659585
Thanks.. I'm interested in reading research like these and have read several already
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>>717660926
Judge. Jury. And Executioner if need be.
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seriously anon. You are 18 and just a young kid. Your future is distant still. Focus on your life and you. Changing your gender (even though you will always be male) will achieve nothing.
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>>717658657
great attempt my guy
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>>717660871
Are you ras
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>hey /b/, I'm thinking about ruining my life and my sanity at a young age for a retarded fetish the internet told me was cool
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>>717661733
no, I'm a different dude. you probably wouldn't remember me.
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>>717661085
Ok, i get you, is trying to think this through, but i honestly feel as if i really want to
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>>717661970
Honestly how long did i talk to you, i remember, if you want, just send me a message.
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>>717661438
>>717660470

these guys obviously don't understand what it's like to naturally be more attuned to a female identity. If you like feminine things and enjoy anal etc.... Then transitioning might actually be a worth while decision. However, that being said... I only encourage natural processes such as increasing isoflavone intake etc..
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>>717661973
then just kill yourself. Depression has only one answer.

You'll help out society more by doing this.
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>>717659667

I completely agree that it is a mental illness, and I have been catergorized in the alt-right box before, but why the fuck does it bother you so much that someone wants to play dress up? Is it honestly going to cause you to die or harm your family? No? Then shut the fuck up and let the faggots do what they want.

No one is making you agree or disagree with it, but stop being this overarching prick that needs to tell people how to live their own lives. Check yourself in the mirror before you speak. Cause the person that has a toothpick in their eye is less fucked up than the person that has a log.
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>>717661119
Ok i think thats good
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>>717662118
>these guys.

its the samefag you idiot and quit promoting this shit.

Either accept who you are anon or kill yourself. Only fucking options. Anything else is a gross life that everyone hates.
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>>717661898
and picollo fucking vegeta is an obvious sign of your superior intelligence and independent lack of need for attention. lol
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>>717662152
How the fuck do my life choices effect society, unless i literally kill people
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>>717637410
If you actually think you want to transition, get a professional medical diagnosis for gender dysphoria, don't go off a gut feeling. If you are diagnosed, go for it.
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>>717662172
You couldnt be more wrong though.

Every fucking movie and tv show is promoting these lifestyles that lead to depression, self hate, lonliness, and suicide.

This anon doesnt need to fall for this and a wake up call is needed.

I dont care if he is a fag but transgender is wrong. No job, no future.
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>>717662337
I think you're the same faggot or might as well be because you're just a hive mind opinionated fuck with nothing better to do. No one cares about your opinion more than you dipshit
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>>717662172
Thank you
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>>717662425
where do you think you are, faggot? take your gay agenda and go to >>>/lgbt/ you retarded queer
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>>717662172

Let them weed themselves out and promote legal eugenics. Have you ever thought about it that way? That is how I have always looked at it. I probably wont see it in my lifetime or the next generation, but hopefully within 100 years, we are weeded of this and then we do not have to have this kind of conversation.

That is why I just let them self-loathe and do this to themselves, since if anything, they are helping our species by eliminating the weak and inferior genetics.
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>>717662669
Really, why would i not have a future
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>>717662490

Meant to comment on it but commented on myself.

See >>717662172
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>>717662946
no one hires transgenders to any good job. No one would want to work with you. Your gay lover will leave you and you'll turn into a "toy" that people only use for some dumb one time fantasy.

Transgenders do not ever get any good job.

You'll get no roommates nor be accepted.
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>>717662908
Your an evil genius
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>>717637410
JSK is that you?
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>>717662490
Doctors will say whatever gets them more money.... do research and make your own decision.

>>717662669
Life can lonely and depressing for anyone... it has nothing to do with transitioining or not

If it's not hurting anyone... it's not wrong, christfag...

just don't become some weirdo pedophile / rapist
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>>717663148
All things im scared of, thats what keeps making me think twice about this
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>>717663163

Again, I have been catergorized as alt-right but I stand proud. Ever seen the movie, Equilibrium? Some of us must take one for the team so the others can go about their lives freely. I choose the libertarian lifestyle so others may be happy. It works out quite well in a place like Uptown near Minneapolis. Women love that I am fiscally conservative/responsible, but also open to the choices and lifestyles make.

Now if we could just get rid of all religion, then the world would be a much better place, starting with the Jews and Muslims.
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what is your height and weight zad3r?
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>>717663447
You just had to rewin it on the last line didnt you
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Transitioning won't make you happy, it just makes you seem even weirder to everyone else. Here's the thing...

Maybe you feel like you should've been born a girl. Maybe you feel like you're female inside. That's okay. There's nothing broken about you. You're perfectly normal. Everybody feels like they ought to be somebody else.

I feel like I should have been born good looking, with a huge cock, to rich parents who liked me. I should've been born looking like Matthew McConaughey or somebody. But, of course, that's not what happened, and like everybody else, I have to deal with reality. I don't get to march in parades or try to get politicians to pass laws making it illegal to treat me like I'm poor and ugly. I can't sue you for refusing to call me "Mr. McConaughey", or for choosing not to cast me in a movie.

At least girls are real things; you're not on here talking about being a half-dragon unicorn snowflake trapped in a man's body. So props to you for that.
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>>717663503
5"6 and last i checked, i weighed 56
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>>717663836
you should eat some fruits and vegetables. have you ever used a dildo or anything by the way? do you like it?
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>>717663148
opinion that's based on nothing.

Having a proffessional demeanor and dressing appropriately for work will still get you hired even if you are a trans gender,... just don't wave it in their faces.

I've both worked with people and can attest firsthand of this. .. of course you will have to deal with bullshit just anywhere you go.
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>>717663764
someone else who makes sense finally.
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>>717664000
Why does it always leed to sex, im a vegetarian, i eat tunns of veggies, and yes to both
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faggots kill themselves, and faggot enablers should be killed
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>>717663447
>>717663163
get a room faggots
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>>717664011
im sure there are a few but be realistic you idiot. Those things i mentioned are true. If not, then why do trans cry about this shit constantly.

Quit giving false hope when none exist. Do something good for society instead of wrecking yourself.
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>>717663715

I figured that was a given? The Jews are the main problem and the Arabs just want to cause a war that their "prophet" who is a child rapist told them to start by their supposed "god"
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>>717663764
Ok i never looked at it like that
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>>717637410
Are you UK? Sugar daddy here, might be able to help financially.
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>>717664398
Congrats, your opinion just became meaningless
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>>717663764
LOL Mr. McConaughey.... No I'm with you on that we have to deal with what were born with, but that should stop your from trying to be someone that you want to be... If you want to Matt McConau-gay then work out and take acted lessons. If you enjoy being feminine and feel more comfortable doing that... then why not try it?

You will always be weird to one person or another. Don't waste your time trying to appease others because it will never happen. Do what's right for you
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>>717664527
Thats not me in the pic, also im not into old people, soz
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>>717664184
well I was wondering if you've experienced yet what you'll actually be experiencing with a guy and like it or not. what length have you had inside you? because you seem a little hot now.
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>>717664728
Old? Sugar daddy is just a figure of speech.
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>>717664761
What, why does it matter
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>>717664832
Im extremely close to the uk, i already posted my kik, zad3r
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>>717663764
This is pretty much my greatest fear that we might have possibly politicized a mass hysteria type phenomena and that I'm just actively participating in it lol
Oh well, I don't think I'm gonna present as a girl in public though. If I take hormones I'll just go femboy-mode, or I'll just stick with plant extracts to feminize more.
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>>717664892
I wanna know if I'd fit, you sound super tiny
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>>717664832
Also im probably gonna say no
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story time

>be me
>23
>learning how to skateboard to piss off ex girlfriend
>go to skatepark
>little kids on scooters and bikes everywhere
>watdo.jpg
>start skating around
>one of the parents comes up to me and asks me to leave since i'm "way bigger" than her daughter
>told her to succ me
>copsarecalled.jpg
>cop shows up
>crazy bitch runs over to him saying I almost hit her kid and I need to leave
>he comes over to me
>explain I've been there 20 minutes and haven't come close to hitting her kid or anyone else
>explain that I skated around the park once and she asked me to leave
>he tells her I can stay
>she has an emotional breakdown saying she's going to sue the city
>the cop threatens to arrest her if she won't calm down
>she complies
>I continue to skateboard
>cop finally leaves
>an hour goes by, everyone at the skatepark is gone except for her, me, & the scooter kid daughter
>have my headphones in
>I mess up a trick and roll my ankle
>I scream fuck
>she flips shit
>i'm on the ground in pain
>she's yelling at me about how I said the F word in front of her daughter
>trying to walk it off but she keeps getting in my face and yelling at me
>she pushes me
>"touch me one more time and see what happens"
>she's about to shove me again
>before her hands even connect I deck her in the face with my forearm
>downshegoes.mov
>she starts having a seizure
>I grab my deck and go back to skating
>realize I could go to jail
>get in my car
>drive away


so what's the chances of me getting in trouble? there's no cameras. no nothing. the only person that saw me deck that cunt in the face was her retarded scooter kid daughter. she was probably 7. so she's not completely retarded but she's still 7.


wat do?
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>>717664295
This IS a realistic approach you butthurt lowlife. Trans ... as all types of people complain about not having a succesfful career life because they don't get it. You have to be proffessional and will consistent. It's tough finding a successful job for Lot's of people.

I volunteer regularly to teach English to refugees from low -income refugees and many other places. Giving hope is my reason for existing.

You're a hypocrite and invalidated yourself... not me
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>>717665116
If i could fit my pinky i could defo fit you
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>>717665131
No problem.
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>>717665057
Looking for someone UK only sorry.
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>>717639031
This is attention whoring. If you're gonna post things like, "It's stuff. And things......" You purposely left it open so someone could ask you. Just fucking say it. Since you're anonymous it doesn't matter. Fucking faggot.
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>>717665246
ughh... i should probably proof read before exclaiming to teach english... oh well I'm tired
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>>717665344
You have my kik, feel free to contact..
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>>717665178
good job, next thing to learn would be fedoras trick, your gf is going to envy you for sure.
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>>717665267
can you take 7 1/2 inches? because I'll slam you hard as fuck to make it go in anyway.
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>>717665397
Its cool, although i though Ireland was sorta a part
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>>717665487
What is it?
>>717665576
Ireland? Maybe then.
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>>717664197
then you should kill yourself... faggot
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>>717638663
>>717639218
sauce plz
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>>717665744
There both me, ZAD3R
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>>717665867
OK. Are you actually a trap though? Been a sugar daddy before and It's hard to find genuine sugar babies.
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>>717666008
You know what man, im not a trap, im not a dude pretending to be a girl, i wanna be a girl.
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>>717665554
Thats called child abuse
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>>717666357
in what country is doing that with an 18 year old considered child abuse?
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Well this was fun, thanks for the help guys, im going to bed now
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>>717666505
Bad joke, if you wanna continue this silly conversation, you know mu kik, good night
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