I stopped going to 4chan for a while, but I feel like this is the only place where I'm truly anonymous. The whole Elliot Rodger thing is sad, and murders like these are awful, but after reading a few pages of his 140 page journal, I realize that I feel just like him. I'm 19, and I've never lay my hands on a woman in any sexual or romantic way. I'm socially unpopular, but I wouldn't describe myself as a total outcast or freak. I haven't or don't ever feel like I'd kill someone, but other than the misogyny, I feel almost exactly like this guy. I don't sympathize with him or condone his actions, but I feel like I have the same pain as he had.
Tl;dr: For real, how does one find girls they like and how do you get them to like you?
>>548200304 it's understandable to see common traits in other people but you gotta remember his whole situation was different, he had been plotting it for a long time and he believed he was entitled to women and seemingly he brushed off responsibility for his own faults
to find women and have them like you you should first approach them not even thinking that having sex is an option, just have fun with them and get them comfortable if they enjoy you they'll open up if not move or maybe find one of their friends who finds you attractive, also every day vow to be better than who you were yesterday and seek it, workout, get a tan, get a haircut etc. keep becoming a better version of yourself and wominz will come
It's not that I think I can't get girls, I can't. Almost every relationship I've had has been one or two dates that were awkward and awful. I'm not particularly outstanding in any way, just a little outside average.
>>548201107 Skint. I'll look up the book though, thanks.
>>548201079 I don't think it's something wrong with me, I think it's wrong with my behaviour.
Stop associating yourself with all those things. They're not who you are, just an idea you have of yourself.
People will all see you differently, but the way they see you will be influenced a lot by how you see yourself.
Live a happy life for yourself. Make yourself happy, and build your kingdom. It doesn't have to be lots of bros and drinking and smoking and going to bars. If it's your thing, do it. Otherwise, socialize with people like you.
Find out what sort of productive thing makes you happy, and turn that into your hobby. Make a habit of going to the gym to make yourself look better.
Do all of that for you, or at least fool yourself into thinking that. It will become part of who you are with time if you keep telling yourself that's why you're doing it.
And put yourself out there. You need to risk rejection: it's the best way to find out if a woman wants you. Becoming friends and trying to ease your way into pussy is not a great strategy for many reasons.
Odds are you will find someone if you do those things, and odds are you will be heartbroken by the end. It's the cycle of life. Know that everyone either goes through the same thing or misses out on the good that comes before the heartbreak.
Having a girlfriend is not that amazing. Sex is not that amazing. The only thing that actually matters is pursuing someone when you are actually in love with them. Everything else is bullshit and will not make you happier.
>>548202747 Okay dude well that is a start. What do you want to do with your math degree? Have you thought about doing something with engineering? Any girl that is worth it likes smart guys with ambition.
- Watch Elliott Hulse on youtube - watch RSD blueprint on youtube - take your time, you're life is just starting out now, the world is only just starting to open up for you. - Become epic in college.
At least you've got something going for you OP, you are already 1000x better then a random guy on the street. Just enjoy life to the fullest, it's the only thing you can do to make your life worth wile.
>>548203823 As I said before, I just don't really know how to act on dates. Is it normal to kiss and hold hands the first date, should you bring her flowers, how long do you wait to call, all that kind of stuff. I don't know how everyone else figures it out.
see, teenage boys seem weird sometimes. its just as it is, your young and have no self-esteem. but guys what - not only your appearance changes when you grow older, you will also get more self-esteem. its just how it is.
i dont know how it is, but i can understand it must be hard, especially in your teenage years to have never even kissed a girl. just stay strong, some day it will happen 100% you could also just fuck a hooker to releave some tension of your balls
You're not alone. We've basically concluded that he's from /r9k/. But most betas don't flip like that. You're welcome to try to beat Brevik, but don't think that because you're a dork (even if you're self-entitled too) that you're gonna start killing randoms.
>Takes video and photos to post on the internet thinking others care >Concentrates on superficials only (money, car, looks); neglects having a personality/soul >Trying too hard to sound/speak poetic >Throws frustrations and blame onto others >Never seeks/wants to improve self >Kills people from frustrations with the opposite sex >Kills more men than women from frustrations with the opposite sex
ABSOLUTELY DO NONE OF THIS SHIT.
It's funny. This guy is the ultimate boilerplate for what not to do when it comes to trying to catch pussy.
I think most people figure it out via trial by fire. Just get yourself in the situation and see what works and what doesn't work. It takes a while to figure out. Hell there are a ton of books on this subject that are very helpful. What works for me might not work for you. You have to figure it out and don't get discouraged along the way.
>>548204213 I've honestly never been to /r9k/. I might have posted one or two times there a few years ago, but I don't really get what the board's about. >>548204215 Why do you think I'm from /r9k/? >>548204256 The point of this thread is to figure out what i'm doing wrong and fix it.
>>548204439 The real problems start when you've got shit you want/need to do and some needy girl wants you to fuck her. That's when it starts to feel like a chore.
This is especially frustrating when you are working on something that requires a lot of focus on some girl is trying to interrupt you in a cute way. Instead of being cute, it is just annoying and she gets offended when you don't let her seduce you.
>>548204049 Same here, i'm really shit at social interactions. Especially with girls i like, when i talk to them i stutter like jimmy from south park.
But from what i've heard is that girls like it when guys do at least something on the first date, be it only holding hands.
I used to date girls and not act, at all. And that obviously never went anywhere. Even though the girls were interested in my. (i got told months later) this happened a few times because i was a beta-max highschooler.
But yeah what >>548204473 Says, you just got to try and fail some times.
>>548204536 And I told you what the solution was. The exact opposite of everything this man is doing. And I mean that in all absolutes. If your behavior is congruent with this guy's, you need to drop that shit right now.
Stuff this guy didn't do: >pick up weights >have a normal conversation with the opposite sex >have a normal conversation with the same sex >have a job >create art (a 130-page cry for help doesn't count) >find things off the computer that are fun to do
Do what you love OP. If you don't know, search for something. Don't get in the mindset of "maybe if I was more like this I could get a girl" because that doesn't work. Nothing is more attractive than someone who loves what they do, has passion for something and in doing and accomplishing that, loves their self. Work hard and make that your priority and you will be the happiest person you know and you will find the perfect partner. Someone you can be and share more with than any casual girlfriend.
>>548200647 kill yourself, and do better than this faggot did. Please, as someone who has gotten laid a few times, I beg you to kill more that fifteen sorority girls. Just do it, like Nike. Kill them, please. Feminism will take a huge blow because their evil twin will take a blow.
Sometimes you see skinny guys with handsome girls and sometimes you see muscular guys with handsome girls. Why aren't only the muscular guys with handsome girls, I hear you say. Well, my little friend, that is because girls are attracted to confidence rather than muscles. And muscular guys get confidence over the fact that they have muscles. The skinny guys however, don't have any muscles, but get the bitches because they are confident.
Implying you need to try that hard. Cliche alert: just be yourself, if they don't like you then fuckem. I didn't lose my virginity till I was 23, and I don't give a fuck really. Meet girls Be yourself Eventually one will let you slay her with your pork sword.
>>548200304 OP ive had a gf for 10 months now. I like to believe she is a 7/10. But honestly. To get a girl. Be yourself man. If need be. Lower your standards way down. Dont shoot for a 10/10 unless one throws herself at you. Go for a 6 or 7/10. Also. Dont be a dick to any girl. Because girls do talk.
>>548200304 Imagine you're a girl (not a fucking trap); you have so many men trying to sleep, how do you pick a good one?
You can't even try to get a girlfriend if you don't talk with girls. Talk to them, get to know them, and make them ask questions about you. It gets them interested in you. Act like hot shit. Take care of yourself. Do you have acne? Get rid of that shit. Go to a doctor, etc., take care of how you look, because what fucking girl would want to date a fatass, gaming, neckbeard? Come on, man, this shit ain't hard.
>>548200304 this this situation totally freaks me out, because I am like Elliot. Rich, 23, and fucking beta. I could not hurt a fly, but it sucks to be alone, and it hurts me most of the time when I see my friends with their gf/bf I am just fucking scarred that maybe I will wake up one day and go to a rampage like this
>>548202367 And this. >I wanted to read the whole thread before posting >but i guess /thread. I've learned what that guy said it time. I'm 28, i've had 2 gfs and had sex with 1st gf only, and ive paid hookers, not to get laid, but because when you find yourself at a titties bar with prostitutes well... But that's about it. And the only thing i've ever done is be myself - my shy, awkward, introverted self - and try to have fun. And the same goes with several other things in life. I'm a 4 times college drop out, an entitled dick, lazy, y'know, your average neckbeard and applying pretty much the same logic to that situation - be yourself, work on your hobbies, may i add monetize your hobbies, put yourself out there, so on - i've been getting better at not being an awful person and a waste of air.
>>548200304 Hey OP, lemme tell you a thing or two here.
Elliot Rodger is a sad sack of shit who used his life experiences as an excuse to hurt people. He is not relatable or a role model for anyone to look up to. This little turd nugget is That Guy, a human being who cares nothing for what other people think of him and then become infuriated when no one can stand him. If he had taken some time to really fix himself, he would have been more likable but he chose to blame his problems on everything but himself. You can tell by how fake and staged his last video is that the kid thought life was a movie and that he was the star of the show; his stupid, fake little chuckles are more than enough proof that he wanted people to think he was "alpha male" (his words). He is nothing but a worthless, beta piece of shit, and you will be too if you don't make a fucking change. Here's some tips for you; I used several of these to change my life to become way more likable and thus worth knowing. I didn't have to shoot up a sorority house to be worth something.
1.) Always remember that when you feel like you're not getting anywhere in life, the only person who can change that is you. Lose weight, get outside, go to parties, do whatever you have to in order to make friends. 2.) Instead of being nice to women you want to fuck or are interested in, become truly interested in those women's lives. I know without a shadow of doubt that I could get somewhere around 9 women to jave sex with NOT because I was nice to them but because I truly care about their lives and wellbeing. I know exactly what to say and I know that if I were to fail then there are always more women in the world. 3.) The friendzone doesn't exist. The friendzone is an excuse for sorry sacks of shit who can't figure out why a woman won't fuck them to bitch about why his cock is still dry. The friendzone is another way for a man to say "I was rejected and I can't handle that". There's no friendzone; just whiny bitches.
I thought that too until I met to a girl with 0 tits and 0 ass. But she has the cutest fucking face I've ever seen and she's really quiet and smart and that's how I learned to not go after 10s anon. That's something Elliot never learned, and that was his main mistake.
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>>548206383 you wont you have friends elliott had real issues that nobody noticed til he was 22. he had no friends. he had no clue how to behave in social situations. the fact you said you actually have friends means you are ok
you will meet someone if you go out and do stuff. job/friends of friends. this is how it works
Hi summerfriend. You are the 73RD person to make this same thread. Let me answer you. 1) don't assume girls should give you sex. Its your job to convince them to, not your right to be showered with it. 2) don't throw hot coffee on the girls that don't smile at you (if you read his manifesto this will make sense.) Girls talk to each other, and you will get a reputation. 3) treat them with respect,.even ones you don't like
Practice, like I do with job interviews. Go on a few dates, just to get a feel for the situation. I'm a 6/10 at best, and I've slept with a few 9's. Make them laugh, don't act superior. And have enough originality not to make the same thread that's been posted non stop since Friday.
>>548206673 4.) Stop trying to get laid. Just stop. When you are trying to get someone to fuck you, then you notice the time it takes to get someone. I got news, man: some people fuck bitches all the time, and some don't. Get used to it. Find a hobby, watch porn, wank it often, and explore new social situations. 5.) Be fucking realistic. Go for women who have similar interests to you or are easy to talk to. If you can't talk to them, it's gonna fizzle out before you know it. 6.) Always remember that guys your age have kids already; count yourself among the lucky few who won't have to deal with that for a while.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head. Good luck.
also dont think in these childish ways that people talk on here for example rating girls with numbers based solely on looks.
i used to be kindof awkward and not confident when i was your age. but i had friends and gradually you meet girls and if you're not a total douche bag, eventually one will like you. i've not slept with lots of girls, but i've had some nice ones and nowadays i find that i get a lot of attention (im 28 now)
also stop beating on yourself nobody likes a fucking cry-baby the world doesnt owe anyone a favor girls dont owe you a fuck be happy in yourself, that says a lot also remember your age and how fucking immature people are (especially in america)
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