/mag/ Martial arts general

>>2198962
>WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A MARTIAL ARTS GYM:

be unbiased and objective
- the coaches Are knowledgeable
- the coaches are able to evaluate students objectively
- the coaches can use their knowledge to solve problems and answer questions logically
- the physical conditioning methods follow scientifically valid facts
- in turn, people get better, people have fun, because of the fact that that's what makes a good gym, not despite the fact.

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>Trainer with certified professional record and a training history with at least one athlete who competes successfully

lol, that juiced up mexican tranny got tapped by a kickboxer

>>2201375
>tapped
this word has two meanings.

>>2201394
I..don't think it does

>>2201408
It does.

>there's no such thing as a knife fight, only stabbings

Knife and cloth shield fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hccyPJ7a8j4&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhccyPJ7a8j4&has_verified=1 [Embed]

Machete fight
youtube.com/watch?v=VhV9xTPRvaI [Embed]

Gang weapons fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWrYUUIrR2o [Embed]

Knife vs unarmed fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWTsM_YUOrQ [Embed]

>>2203060
nah I don't think so

>>2205234
What exactly am I looking at?

Does anyone know anything about Dog Brothers? There's a small Dog Brothers affiliate near me (and I do mean small) and I'm wondering if it would be worth checking out.

>>2213738
I think they are basically a bunch of fags that do fake showy stick fighting where they hit each others sticks but not actually each other

>>2213738
Their training is functional and they pressure test all their stuff, but have some kind of weird fraternal thing going on.

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>>2214121
>>2214133
So two completely different opinions.

>>2213738
I've heard great things and bad things. I really don't know. I just know that "weapon" martial arts are filled with LARPing non athletes

>>2214497
Yeah that's a good point. I creeped on one of the dude's facebook and it was all comic book heroes and shit like that...

>>2201033

The reason for Ronda's striking (no pun intended) success story..

>>2213738

The problem is you won't be able to compare, so you best bet is to just check it out. It's definately bettern than not learning anything, rigth?

Generally DogBrothers have a good reputation, since they they pressure test their stuff. Some (minor) points I don't like:
-the training dvds are kinda expensive, but AFAIK you don't need to buy them, it's just additional material
-they used to be not super refined with their techniques, but it got better apparently. The best scenario would be learning a more technical style first and then get into sparring and "re-learn" what works and what does not
-their knife stuff is obviously not super-high class - knifes are difficult to train, but on their fighting videos you often see someone making a cool wrestling takedown while getting stabbed vitally serveral times. If this was a real knife it would go down differnt.

But hey, weapon fighting is pretty difficult and I respect the DogBrothers appraoch. Just donÄT think it's the "one and only way to do things", and you'll be fine.

>>2213738
bottom line is, it's not inherently too bad to at least try it out, and if it's too much like larping, you can still leave

I want you to keep in mind this is one of their officially published videos. They are actually proud of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4i7tDGxEoM
highlights. The best of the best!

all I see are a bunch of middle aged guys playing pretend in someones front yard

>>2216091
>non compliant
>take downs and grappling with weapons
i don't see how this is just guys playing pretend, they're definitely practicing as close to realistic as one can get.

>>2216233
they are playing with each other, they are just using wood instead of nerf swords

look at those silly ass ninja poses some of them are doing. They are just making this shit up as they go

>>2216413
i agree that some are being flamboyant in their moves but they are still striking, blocking, and grappling in a non-compliant atmosphere. Instead of just bashing them, why not provide examples of people doing it "properly"?

>>2216448
they are basically brawling, I don't see how any of them would reliably win against a random guy swinging a pipe at them

the one consistent factor I see is the bigger guy just tackles the smaller one

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>>2216544

>>2218497
you may be surprised to find out....I am the hacker known as 4chan

>>2214895
>Just donÄT think it's the "one and only way to do things", and you'll be fine.
>don't be like /asp/

>>2216091
>all I see are a bunch of middle aged guys playing pretend in someones front yard
That's all martial arts really is these days.

A large majority of people aren't fighting in un-ruled street fights.

We have boxers wearing enough hand wraps to mummify 3 children, wearing extra thick and plushy pillows, and playing punch-tag until the game's over.

You know how in video games you're just pretending that you're breaking people's spines and smashing shit?
Judo is just that. You're pretending you're smashing shit and breaking people's spines, but you're really just playing a game of gotcha on a soft and fluffy floor like the floors in a mental institution made to keep patients from harming themselves.

UFC and amateur MMA fighting isn't real "fighting," either.
You're just pretending you're fighting.
When you get punched, it's not a real punch, you've got gloves.
You don't need to worry about getting thrown out of the ring, getting hit with chairs, getting gang raped by the audience.
You always wear a cup before you go fight, so you don't need to worry about that.
You don't need to worry about knives, batons, clubs, swords, projectiles.
You don't need to worry about getting an eye gouged out, getting bitten, or getting clawed.
There's rules upon rules upon rules because it's a game, not a fight.

>>2198962
>insecure virgins thinking that hitting a gym would make them more confident about females

Bad news for you, that won't fix your autism. Get used to the idea of having to interact with your hand for a loooong time

>>2220043
>There's rules upon rules upon rules because it's a game, not a fight.
You don't need to worry about breaking an arm, or getting beaten to death, because your opponent has to let you go if you give in.
And there's always your buddy the referee to help keep you out of any possibly potentially real danger.

>>2220047
>>insecure virgins thinking that hitting a gym would make them more confident about females

>insecure
kek

>virgins
>implying

>more confident about females
I don't like interacting with a majority of the human race, which includes the females.

Everyone is so ignorant, delusional, impulsive, emotional, and dishonest; it's repulsive.

>>2220063
Spotted the master virgin autist of the thread

>>2220047
>>2220071
spotted the basement dweller that can only jerk it to fluffy "divas"

>>2220077
Top Kek

>PhD
>accomplished professional
>rich
>lovely girlfriend with pretty feet
>speak 5 languages
>visited 40+ countries

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>>2220088
cool story bro

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Why do fighters eat so many eggs?

>>2220319
Lots of protein and micronutrients for relatively few calories. Also extremely easy to prepare.

>>2220043
>>2220055
>t. I learned everything about fighting from Shamo

>>2220858
I think eggs are a meme, that picture has 6 eggs

Calories 468
Total Fat 30 g
Protein 36 g
that's 300 grams of eggs by the way

150 grams of chicken is worth 40 grams of protein and only 21 grams of fat so you get more with half the amount

tuna even more so, 300 grams of that is 90 grams of protein, that's about 2 cans which is a small amount and much more cost effective than eating a half dozen eggs every day

>>2220319
>>2221264
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>https://www.anabolicmen.com/fats-and-testosterone/
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html?m=1

>>2220319
>>2220858
>>2221276
I drink eggs every morning in a smoothie with fruit.
Sometimes I make vegetable omelets, but I don't really like fried food. My favourite way to eat them is in egg salad sandwiches, but you got to be careful what bread you use because I ended up overbulking with white bread.

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>how to deal with multiple attackers

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>>2220871
Topkek. First arc best arc. And that one fighting jesus one too I guess.

>>2221636
its pretty basic really. Clinch behind the head and feed the guy knees, use him as a shield to keep the others at distance

>>2221722
Another way is to knock one or more people down so everyone gets scared of you, if weapons are involved, you should just run like a smart boy

>>2221694
>to control the mind is to control the body

Blue Belt in BJJ, have been doing it for 2 years, if anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

Other martial arts experience include a couple months of muay thai, couple years of silat and wingchun.

>>2224472
Teach me basic guard stuff.
t. noob judoka

>>2224472
>years of silat and wing chin
Why

>>2224866
In general, to adapt BJJ for Judo, you're looking for fairly simple yet fast methods that the average Judoka doesn't know much about. Aim for direct submissions and pins. Half guard tends to work well for example, both sweeps and submissions.

As for guard types in general, I suggest you look into closed guard, half guard, butterfly guard and standard open guard (feet on opponent's hips, knees pushing out in their elbow fold, sleeve grip) to work close by, and some basic x-guard and open guard when the opponent is standing. Learn to chain between these guards, and gradually incorporate basic submissions. Do work on triangle variations, and, if you're any good at them, omoplata/ashi sankaku garami - seems to have been completely forgotten here. People, due to lack of familiarity, tend to walk into both, as opposed to standard armbar or collar chokes they know and thus defend better.

Keep in mind, however, that even submissions people know well can be absolute game changers when applied from unexpected situations. Personal favourite of mine is yoko tomoe nage into armbar, it accounts for about half of my competition wins in Judo.

>>2224866
Adding, as you're new to Judo: keep it simple for now. Work mostly on closed guard. Look up basic BJJ style armbar, a basic triangle set up, hip bump sweep and scissor sweep. That'll keep you occupied for a year easily.

Also, one basic choke that works well from guard, even in Judo where choking rules are more restrictive
>place [left] hand deep in opponent's [left] collar, palm facing yourself, thumb out
>pull, thus causing their gi to crumple behind their [right] shoulder
>slap [right] hand onto crumpled area and grab firmly
>pull down and out with both elbows next to your sides, pushing [right] forearm into their neck, angle your body [left]
>

>>2224979
What is the name of the described choke?

>>2225037
In Judo it would be a variation of gyaku juji jime, in BJJ it'd be collar/lapel choke from guard. Look for the Judo one, and grab the back of the gi with second hand instead of grabbing the collar.

>>2225037
Actually, this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EJjm96hKYdM
Play around with it once you know it. For example, I sometimes like to get the first hand in place while they're low and place the second hand almost right behind it, just slightly more towards the other shoulder. Doesn't feel dangerous, but when they come up you simply move the second hand/arm over their head, which immediately sinks it in. Or don't get the first hand in place, and as they come up angle your upper body and slap it on before they know what's happening. Works very well from half guard too. Get first hand in, use elbow and legs to maintain guard, place your upper leg with foot/shin against hip, move them around until you can angle and slap it on. Or slap it on from where it looks impractical, then angle, and so on.

Stick to the basic version first and get good at it, but know that there's many ways to land the same submission or sweep.

Anyone know what the new judo rules say about gripping?

>>2224871
Silat has nice striking transitions to takedowns, I still use them when I spar. Wing chun sucks, but I have pretty solid hand fighting skills in no-gi stand up now.

>>2224866
Closed guard is your friend! If anything you can always stall for Judo stand up in closed guard in Judo tournaments.

If you want to get good at sweeps and submissions, start learning to get angles with your hips, and how to favor hips from side to side.

>>2226445
I sat through the Baku seminar, what do you need to know?

>>2227102
>I sat through the Baku seminar
You can learn more easily with a better attitude.

>>2227102
If the same restrictions on grip apply, and if the belt grip or Georgian grip is permitted

>>2228381
If you take a grip, and do not implement an attack from that grip, you will get fouled just like it used to be.
If you take a grip and use that grip to implement an attack, you will not be fouled for the grip.
Example, you take Georgian grip, then base out and stiff arm to prevent your opponent from doing ura nage, you will draw shido.
Example 2, you take Georgian grip as a set up and then execute osoto gari, you will not draw shido.

This has probably been discussed dozens of times, but what aspect of wing chun makes it disfunctional?
The stance? The concept of being relaxed? It being overly complex? Kung fu practitioners in general not cross-training?

>>2228840
the general consensus is that any martial art can be functional as long as it's trained in a non-compliant environment

>>2228840
Different schools have different ideas on the range of Wing Chun, but most schools often fight at this mid range (for hand striking). The problem with this range, is lack of control of this range from Wing Chun.

If you want to hand trap, you should just take the extra half step into clinch range; and if that's the case you should be dirty boxing, or grappling. Where over hooking and underhooking offers much more control.

If you can't close the distance and maintain your hand trapping distance you end up getting outboxed by other arts that offer longer range tools.

As far as the mechanics goes, the striking power from Wing Chun have historically been really poor. That being said, if you interpret the wing chun mechanics to the "falling" step of Jack Dempsey's Championship Fighting; it can generate significant power off the lead hand; but most schools don't properly teach the punching mechanics.

>>2228501
neat. does that apply to every grip or are some still illegal?

>>2229419
That's where everyone is confused. All of the illegal grips are still illegal, and what they really changed was this concept of "positive judo" and "negative judo" which you will see in the new rules.

Basically, if you are in the act of "positive judo" you won't get fouls from various grips (and other things). Positive judo is when you are working toward ippon. Like, if you are going into sode tsurikomi goshi and grab the inside of the sleeve hem to do a arm drag to get there, the grip and arm drag are during your "positive judo" motion, so you won't be fouled for it.

"Negative Judo" on the other hand will draw fouls, and that includes things like stalling, blocking, fake attempts to throw, or other actions that are not working towards ippon. However, you don't get the penalty for negative judo, rather you get penalized for the illegal grab or motion. So, if you grab the inside of the sleeve hem and use that to block your opponent's forward motion, you will get the foul for grip, but that is actually only happening because you are doing "negative judo."

>>2228840
Because of the training methods, not because of the art itself.
For example, as a regular part of training, every judo dojo has a 'randori' session where you try and apply what you have learned on an opponent that also knows what you know and is actively trying to stop you from doing your technique. As a result, most (not all) people that train judo can apply techniques in situations where their opponent is not compliant. The same can generally be said of BJJ, Boxing, Kyokyshin and a several other martial arts.

However, Wing Chun has set call/response sequences and doesn't pull the implementation of the techniques off of these rails as part of the training. So, when you get in a situation where the opponent isn't doing what you need them to do, your methods start becoming ineffective. Wing Chun isn't the only art that has this problem, Aikido, Krav Maga, and Hapkido generally have movements set to scripts.

You may find a good Wing Chun school that has implementation of the tech during open sparring, but it isn't likely. Vice versa with judo, there are some schools that don't do randori, but finding one isn't likely.

The teacher matters more than the art when it comes to how functional or disfunctional it is.

>>2214121
This must be bait.

>>2230046
FAGS I TELLS YA! FAGS!

>>2229477
>when you get in a situation where the opponent isn't doing what you need them to do, your methods start becoming ineffective
This kinda opened my eyes, there's this instructor always talking about how you have to do things that will work in any situation, how you don't have time to pick a reaction to multiple strikes and how the aggressor is not gonna do what you want him to so I ruled it out, yet every lesson he does is effectively call/response sequences and not punching at the center is reprimanded, I guess he tries but not in an effective way

>the autistic kid in my class studies Wing Chun

I thought it was just a meme when people called wing chun practitioners autists, but I almost laughed out loud when I found out it was true

>>2230609
>posting on 4chan
>making fun of real life autist.

the lack of self awareness is astounding, probably proof of your own autism.

Judo guys, would uchikomi bands be good for my newbie, noodly-like arms? Or is it best to wait until you're not shit so you don't practice with half-assed technique? Three days is plenty but shits too fun not to want to practice more.

>>2230709

>>>>>>R9k

>>2230795
sounds like you need a structured weightlifting program first imo

>>2230843
Of course m8, I just mean whether or not its the sort of thing you should wait until you're better at judo for.

>compete in Judo every now and then
>often just show up, pay and fight
>want to compete in BJJ again
>10 times the price as per usual - hesitate
>only a handful of people in my division to boot
>decide to register anyway
>registration closed 2 weeks out, several days before announced closing date
>division still almost empty
Seriously, what? How? Hippo? Why?

>>2229455
So even more ref subjectivity? Since I live in the midwest and the refs are already fucking retarded, that's shit.

>>2231684
shits too expensive
there's a tournament tomorrow, $120 for 20 minutes of play time

fuck that honestly, I'll go pay a $10 mat fee if I want to practice against different people

>>2230879
They work well for penetrating step footwork, just be diligent that you're doing your reps properly.

>>2232257
I'm sorry you wont ever get a purple belt :(

>>2220088
Post her feet faggot. I believe the rest.

>>2232353
3real5me

Ok, /asp/, need some pointers and personal experiences from those of you who did this before. I tried on /fit/, but to no success.

Right now, i've been out of shape for more than an year, currently weigh around 120 kgs at 186cm (265 lbs/6'1) and somewhere around 25%bf, and in 2 months i need to be 105 or under for a kyokushin match. I haven't been physically active at all lately, and i have exactly 2 months to lose a lot of weight and be in fighting shape. Keep in mind it's just an amateur match, not some UFC level fight.

So I'm basically doing 4 days a week of weightlifting in the morning (some 5/3/1 with added assistance), 3 days of kyokushin training and 3 of cardio (running, sprints, rope skipping) in the evening.

As for diet, i'm going for some extreme low carb, i aim at 90 g protein per day and under 25 g carbs.

I'd appreciate any help, tips or recommandations you guys have. Thanks.

>>2232624
I'd do more cardio if I were you.

>>2232624
Keto diet with 500 to 1000 cal cut.

Decrease weightlifting; building muscle is only going to hurt you for this short diet (definitely it'll help you lose weight long term, but since you only got two months, I would elimniate weightlifting).

Do HIIT training, but limit sprinting.

Change your cardio to low-impact cardio; bouncing 120kg on your ankles/knees is only going to cause you to get injured.

>>2214483
That's why you should seek facts.

my jiujitsu place is really stingy with promotions

I'm coming up on a year this month and I have 2 stripes on a white belt from going 3-5 times a week
I don't know what other blue belt standards are, but I beat new white belts that come in within seconds, played against a blue belt the other day from somewhere else and tapped him like 4 times during a 5 minute roll and didn't get caught once

I don't want to feel like a noob anymore, but I do

>>2233372
Took me two years to get blue, and that was at the time one of the faster promotions in the club history - already caught several brown/black belts in different clubs before getting blue. The standard has since been lowered, but even now it's 1.5y average. Purple belt standards shot up since the introduction of a mat time system rather than a skill-based one, so despite regularly submitting all the higher belts to the point of dominating them, there's now a few people caught in between again, me included. Shit happens. Unless you're a mad prodigy, one year for blue would be really fast imo. Worry less, train more and start catching higher belts.

>>2232838
thanks for the assist. Will surely keep weightlifting to a bare mimimum, focua right now is on cardio anf sparring mostly.

Anyone have any advice for my first Judo competition? I'm a yellow belt but competing next weekend. Also any good tutorials/advice on grip fighting will be really helpful.

>>2233725
>stay calm
>get dominant grip
>maintain dominant position through grip, weight placement and movement
>do not waste gas or strength when not needed
>play your game from there

As for grip fighting, depends on what you like, but try to establish an 'uneven' grip where you can use both hand, and your opponent has more limited options. For example, when fighting with left hand sleeve grip, grip the sleeve just below the wrist BEFORE it grabs your collar, and keep it down, then grab their collar/neck/whatever with your right hand. This denies the opponent a collar grip he needs to throw, while you have two excellent grips.

>>2233725
Exposure therapy helps a relatively large amount of the time.

>want to get back into karate
>look into dojos near me
>nearest one (kyokushin) is an hour and a half walk, but 15 mins by car. Don't have a car.
>only nearby martial art place is the MMA gym across the road from me which I'm pretty sure is the front for a dealer

What do

>>2236227
>only nearby martial art place is the MMA gym across the road from me which I'm pretty sure is the front for a dealer
It doesn't matter if it's a front for a dealer as long as the MMA is decent MMA.

Kyokushin is about heart and spirit, maybe use a little heart and spirit to check out the MMA place.

I believe it's better to know, rather than lying on your death bead thinking about what could've been; check out both places.
Go to both places at the same time if you can.

Also, you could get yourself a bicycle to get to the Kyokushin place, maybe start getting into Mountain Biking.

>>2236250
Yeah it's a 40 minute bike ride from uni or my house to the kyokushin place. I've got a bike, might bring it back with me after Easter.

I mean, the travel time is relative. Some people have some pretty long commutes that they do daily. No public transit?

>>2236320
Meant for >>2236264 obviously

>>2236227
Do both.

I do judo, and I live in the middle of fly-over farm land. ...And with a brown belt I'm also the highest ranking judoka in a 250 mile radius. I'm on a long slow road that is harder than yours on my journey to black.
I meet with a muay Thai sensei that has a gym once a week at 6 am, and since he lives 60 miles away, I have to leave my house at 5 am to train there. We drill takedowns and he lets me run through kata with him. I also drive 30 miles away twice a week in the evenings and help coach at a Gracie school, and in exchange the instructor there lets me do judo randori sets with whoever wants to after class is over. I go to the regional tournament that is 300 miles away and get evaluated on my progress by a rokudan and two sandans afterwards, and this is once every three months.
I'm not progressing as fast as those that have easy access, but I'm still progressing. But at least there is no question in my mind that I know that I'm where I'm at now because I consistently showed up and made myself better.
Check out both places and find training partners, and make sure that you are better than you were yesterday.
It's better than running through what ifs on a Swahili mole farming message board.

>>2236526
>my muay thai sensei drills take downs with me
Muay thai sensei
Kek

>>2236573
Never thought about it, but what the fuck do you call a muay Thai sensei that isn't sensei? Those ladyboys must have a word in their own language right.

>>2237191
I've heard the word master used

>>2237191
Kru if I am not mistaken - but I may very well be.

guy who was doing a 50 pound weight cut in a month here

I missed weight by 10 pounds, and my body feels like it aged a few decades

>>2237716
40 in a month still is pretty brutal. Once had to do half that in half the time, downright horrible.

>>2237716
>step 1: acquire helium
>step 2: inject -10 pounds into your blood stream
>step 3: ????
>step 4: profit

>>2237191
Coach seems to be generally acceptable in the states.

I had bjj instructor who preferred to be called professor though.

>>2238379
I think thats a Brazilian thing.

How fit do I have to be to get into MMA?

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>>2238553

>>2238553
Not very if you have a good boxing/wrestling background and decent stamina look at big country

>when guys talk about how painful and physically exhausting bjj is

>>2238606
Looks like he's got some decent biceps.

>>2237191
I call him my teacher to people who don't know him, otherwise I just use his name.

>>2238661
its physically exhausting when you're not very good at it because you get smashed and have the wind crushed out of you

>>2238839
if you're weak and out of shape.

There's a combat sambo club in my area that seems to be legit. Should I do sambo or MMA

What is the consensus on Aikido?
There's a dojo near my house

>>2239236
It's shit

>>2239236
>>2239321
Yesterday, I caught a BJJ black belt who win his division at Europeans with a wristlock I learned during Aikido.

Study, adapt, apply. A joint lock is a joint lock, all you have to do is fuck around with the set-up until you find one that works.

Hello what is the point of this thread

>>2239236
It's not the techniques, it's not the philosophy behind the techniques, that make an art bad or good. No art is truly bad or good.
How well a person can apply techniques in a certain situation depends on that person's intelligence, that person's knowledge, and it depends on the training methods utilized by sad person.
Generally speaking, anyway.
There are also other variables, including but not limited to: how much sleep that person got, how sensitive that person is to sleep deprivation, that person's stress levels, whether or not that person is stiff from exercising the previous day, whether or not that person has eaten food, what kind of food that person has eaten, how long ago that person ate said food, etcetera.

>>2239379
The thread has different points to different people, including OP.

>>2239378
>all you have to do is fuck around with the set-up until you find one that works.
There are more than billions upon billions of possible situations.
All possible setups work in their corresponding situations.

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>>2239236
Training methods and philosophy instilled by the founder (who was probably actually stronk, and was proably just in a hippie phase that he would have passed a bit) make it subpar, especially since they're low percentage techniques. Best to have a strong base in another grappling art, i.e. something like brown belt in judo. Plus they have compatibilty, both japanese, both have ukemi (very good plus), judo teaches that kuzushi like a motherfucker (steep learning curve tho), and I imagine a judoka grip could be good for aikido too.

>>2239471
>especially since they're low percentage techniques.
When applied correctly, the techniques work 100% of the time.
When used in the wrong situations at the wrong times, it's only logical that they work less.

>>2239531
Ofc m8, they just tend to be especially low percentage because you're only used to practicing them through either non-live practices, or live practice where everyone's an aikido guy and people defend against stuff in weird, meta to the art ways depending on rules.

>>2239379
Having a mrtial arts thread that doesn't get drowned in fake wrestling

>>2239236
It's shit. Learn wrist locks without all that other shit

>>2239199
AFAIK, both are pretty much the same, except for the rules part. So, check them out first, then decide by yourself.

>>2238379
>I had bjj instructor who preferred to be called professor though.
kek

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Why do so many people like this fucking fraud

What's the best way to keep myself from being beaten to death by peaceful protestors for being white?

>>2239378
>things that didn't happen

Either that or he let you get it because you're the new guy

>>2242986
His accent is funny and the shit he shows is so rediculous it might as well be satirical

>de bawkser he come in and pow pow I elbow and break da hands brudda

>>2243600
4+ years of BJJ, 6+ years of Judo, 10 years of Aikido. It was a legit submission. Not the first time I caught him with a wrist lock either.

>>2243696
Man aikido wrist locks look cool and all but their training methods are such fucking crap that I don't think I would ever bother trying to learn it.

>>2242986
Is he supposed to be serious? I quite like his videos but I thought he was mostly taking the piss.

>>2243599
Stop browsing /pol/

>>2243779
Don't let a little bit of grit ruin a decent meal.

>>2243599
You need to use the art of stealth and deception.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKjW5s3tXlo

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You know, I don't think that you guys appreciate how great Wing Chun is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfe2pu8QThE

It's not only a proven fact that Wing Chun is a superior martial art for defeating human opponents, but Wing Chun is also good for defending against dog attacks.

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This proves that Wing Chun is superior to Karate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZL1-dqQHE

Not only is Wing Chun superior to Karate, but Wing Chun is superior to Wrestling + Boxing, as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQjdo9mDsTE

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>grapplers: I'll just take him down and then submit him
kek

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>>2245130
But that video says boxing

>>2245498
And the Pittbulls beat Boxing.

>>2245130
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfe2pu8QThE
This is a good example of practicing specific things for specific conditions too much.

Boxing, BJJ, Judo, alike, they all focus on specific things, and they use specific training methods.

They don't need to be adaptive, so they don't train to be adaptive.

The Boxer in this video train to punch at head level so much, and to defend against nothing but punches so much, that when the adrenaline was flowing, and the emotional heat of battle was upon him, his brain just went to the basics, and he did what he trained the most.
He just used headmovement to defend against the non-punching dog attacks, and the dog attacks included grappling, and he just threw a bunch of human head level punches since he trained that so much.

>>2247257
you made the mistake of replying to a shitposter that posts his terrible videos in every thread :/

>>2247257
Kek you don't need training of any kind to kill a fucking dog, I hope you're shitposting

I've awakened from a dream this morning.

In this dream, my partner and I received information relating to a 7-11 selling expired Mt. Dew, and we were going to bust him or use that as leverage. I buy a chicken sandwich, some chicken nuggets, and fries, from that 7-11.
After some shit, it's dark, it's night, and my partner parks my car a few blocks away from where we currently are.
I walk across the park, and through a cement archway, into a short and relatively wide alleyway.
Two male humans approach me, a shorter and skinnier male, around my age, and a taller and fatter male, around my age.
The fat guy asks if he can use my cell phone.
I reactively say yes, but then think, and tell him that I've changed my mind and that I have somewhere to be.
The fat male is insistent, and the smaller male is smiling and he anxiety finger taps his pocket.
I reach with my left hand to my left back pocket, and tap my pocket twice, like he tapped his pocket twice.
I'm holding onto my telescopic baton that's in that pocket.
He throws his hand forward as if he is striking me, and I quickly draw my baton in a bottom left to top right angle, and open it with the force of the draw and use the draw to strike his forearm, and then I strike his forearm again from right to left.
His hand was open, and he was putting it in front of him like a fake.
He didn't have a weapon, like I suspected, and he wasn't even going to attack me at that moment.
The male doesn't seem injured, but both of them seem somewhat emotional, though, subtly.
>Let's just go, man.
They leave peacefully.

It's like what could have very well broken his forearm, and contused his muscles, didn't effect him at all.

Gets me thinking about fakes and feints, ignorance, delusion, combat, but more than combat.

>>2247273
>that posts his terrible videos
The gifs are where it's at, and the file names.

>Wing Chun vs Pittbull
>grappling vs striking
kek

Also, if you pay close attention, in the last thread, grappling vs striking was actually Grappling vs Striking.

It's like someone saved the image from the thread, and wanted to keep the same file name, but was to lazy to capitalize it like a proper title.

>>2247273
>that posts his terrible videos in every thread :/
Those videos bring something different and new to /asp/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0mSAeVDcYI

>>2248160
>new

Didn't we had a guy who was terrible at everything, yet keep uploading his shit? Wu something.

>>2248177
>Didn't we had a guy who was terrible at everything
He's not actually that bad.

>>2248158
>>2248160
stop posting, chinese scum

>>2248474
Use better grammar, big cums.

>>2248662
commas go before the vocative, ass faggot

>>2248948
Your missing capitalization and periods, cunt faggot.

>>2249074
grammar only applies to sentence structure and has nothing to do with capitalization or punctuation, nigger library

jesus christ no one is laughing at this autistic shit

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>>2220319
Because it works, son.

When I was a lad, I ate four dozen eggs every morning to help me get large.

Now that I'm grown, I eat five dozen eggs.

Now I'm roughly the size of a barge.

>>2249792
>grammar only applies to sentence structure
How many times have you been kicked in the head?

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>>2249911
>being this dense
how new are you?

>>2249989
>implying

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`>be me
>been doing Ed Parker's American Kenpo Karate for 7 or so years
>Jr Black/Brown 2nd

Did I waste my time /mag/?
Any other kenpo guys out there?
Will tell a few of my stories from working with autists, gross and asshole kids, bitchy asian chick,and neckbeard if ya want. Plus other martial arts related stories.

(First time posting here btw)

>>2250021
my school isn't associated with Parker, but the martial artist that helped my instructor start his school got her black belt in '64 from Ed. as most people that actually train here, the instruction is more important than the style. american kempo is notorious of using slapping combos that don't transfer any power. as long as you have sparring with head punches, and don't train your techniques with a compliant partner you most likely have not wasted your time.

>>2250055
For us sparring is not required. i do it,but school went PC because it was losing money (still is which is why my instructor is opening new school), which ticks me off as i am an assistant instructor, and I can't punish bad behavior or the parent's will flip. Techniques is 1/2 class is paying attention to movements and learning them and doing them properly or semi-properly, other 1/2 is split into what my cousin calls "wimpettes" (kids who don't wanna actually do anything hard) and kids/adults who just don't get it or are too floppy (no tenseness, speed, or power). I'm glad though as my instructor's new school will try and weed out the people who just do it to say they do or are unwilling to put work in and train.

>>2220043
>Not knowing that tough UFC/full contact fight is not vale tudo itcan still help you a lot to grow as a fighter
> Thinking that you have to put your life on the line at every training.
> I am sure that you never entered a full contact fight.

>>2250075
when you say kids, are you talking teenagers or do literal children train in the same classes? that's just a recipe for disaster. i hope your new school will help bring some proper instruction.

>>2250110
My class is teens and adults. I assist with kids (like 12 and under, but if a kid is huge we put them in teens but that hasn't happened since I first started). I'm hoping the new school works out. My instructor is one of the coolest guys I know honestly and the students he wants to bring with him to the new school are all good people.

What do you think I should supplement Kenpo with? (What martial art should I look into next to add to my toolbox?)

whelp guys, I'm fucked up
someone put me in a twister last week, I didn't feel like anything had gone wrong at the time, but the day after and ever since I'm in excruciating pain
my back is so stiff, I can't look down or to the sides without sharp pain between my shoulder blades
if I'm laying down I have to move super slow to stand up because it just locks up on me and I can't move

even extra strength over the counter pain killers aren't even taking the edge off. I'm done for

>>2250291
Go to a chiropractor.

>>2245102
Aikido is all grit though with little bits of meat inbetween

>>2245163
>I'll just take him down and submit him.

Basically yes. Try that shit on someone who knows what they're doing

https://youtu.be/qAN-ZKQlucg

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>shoulder injury just got reaggravated and I'm in pain again
>might not be able to finish my wrestling season
I feel terrible

>>2250291
>>2250425
Chiropractors can't diagnose too much, and they think that everything can be solved with adjustments.

See a doctor, and do what he reccomends, which may include seeing a chiropractor.

>>2250589
That's why Lyoto Machida kicked Tito Ortiz's ass, right?

>Mcgregor vs Westle Boy

That shit doesn't work on someone Edo knows what they're doing.

MUH MMA!!!
>pro fighter can't even beat random old man in a street fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyc8MHqQpwg

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>>2250083

Experience is only as credible as how it's interpreted.
Correlation is not causation.
Ignorance and delusion often go hand in hand.

All I'm saying.

>>2251595
>>pro fighter can't even beat random old man in a street fight
That wasn't a real prof fighter and that wasn't just some random old man.

>>2250021
>(First time posting here btw)
Lies!

>>2251085
>lyoto Machida
>a wing chunner

Are you retarded?

>>2251673
no it actually is haha. I only go on /asp/ for wrestling and the occasional lurk for martial arts.

>>2251664
what are you getting at

>>2250075
>I can't punish bad behavior or the parent's will flip
Shotokan and I kinda know that feel, parents don't say anything but you can't be harsh or people will feel demoralized.
And fucking ironically this only happens with adults and teens, not with kids.
The parents of the kids though are the real faggots, they see the kid being a retarded idiot and they don't even flinch, maybe everyone is standing still besides their unholy creation and they don't give a shit.

>>2251953
>Are you retarded?

>grappling vs striking

Are you retarded?

Parkour is the best defensive martial art there.
Parkour is the best defensive martial art because Parkour allows the traceur (practitioner of Parkour) to stay out of the opponent's effective attacking range.

Simply by running, one creates distance from one's opponent, and therefore, one's opponent's attacks.
By maneuvering obstacles, such as vaults, with the efficiency that the skills of Parkour provide, one is able to create more distance between one's self and one's opponent, and therefore create a better defense.

By maneuvering certain gaps, walls, and various combinations of obstacles, one may leave one's opponent behind, unable to maneuver these obstacles.
Psychological barriers, such as fear, may hold back one's opponent. The complexity of a combination of obstacles may exceed one's opponent's intellectual abilities under stress, or exceed one's opponent's intellectual abilities all together.
Some obstacles may simply require skill that is not possessed by one's opponent.

Parkour is the best martial art ever; all of you should do Parkour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Uej-rrJf8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd-OPtw4blI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkJyZbBZyx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6XBJ6o-pqI

Parkour may also be combined with offense, making Parkour that much more better than other martial arts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL5HoQ74xMY

>>2250021
>bitchy asian chick
I want to hear this one

>>2237191
Kru or Adjarn
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajahn

>>2252074
That wasn't the conversation

>>2252311
So you are retarded.

>>2252431
>>2252311
Just make your arguments faggots

>>2251077
the (((doctors))) will give me pain meds I'm sure

don't worry about the problem goy, lets just relieve the symptoms

>>2252533
>Just make your arguments faggots
I got an argument for you, fag.

Striking is superior to grappling. The general skill gaps all over martial arts because of the lack of organization of martial arts makes it possible for grappling to work.

Let's go to basic Boxing.
You learn how to jab, you learn how to defend against the jab. You spar all day with jabs, you defend jabs left and right.
After years of training, with various different kinds of training, a Boxer becomes pretty damned good at defending against jabs.
There are different kinds of jabs, and different jab combinations, mind you.
You stand there with your partner, he can only throw jabs, you will effectively defend against that jab, every single jab he throws. You get good enough, you can defend jabs for hours.
Same thing with jab, cross, double jab, jab-kick, fake jab to jab, etcetera.

You spend enough time training, you train in the most effective and efficient ways, you put enough effort into Boxing, you get damned good at it.

Same thing with martial arts in general.

Same thing with grappling.

When you get to the higher levels of martial arts skill, grappling doesn't work, because of how good martial artists are at defending against martial arts, and that very well includes grappling.
Grappling takes too much to set up, and those setups are easily defendable against a truly skilled martial artist.
Grappling just takes too many steps, and is too slow.

Striking is superior to grappling when it comes to the higher level category of martial arts.

Since high leveled martial artists are so good at defending against grappling, grappling doesn't work, because grappling is too slow and requires too many pre-steps to be effective.

Kicking range before punching range. Punching range before clinch range, clinch range before grappling range.

With higher level martial artists, they're too good at defending at the striking ranges for grapplers to effectively get close to do their grappling.

>>2252678
Then why do they end up on the ground?

>>2252678
By this logic at high levels of skill literally no one will ever get hit because they are all so skilled at defending against attacks, no?

You're saying that if you train for long enough, people of similar skill levels will eventually no longer be able to hit you because you've gotten so good at defense. Given that the majority of mma fights (which is a highly competitive environment that has both striking and grappling) don't end with neither side haven taken a blow, I think there might be a flaw in your logic.

>>2252697
Because of the lack of skill and the skill gaps in various skills.

>>2252704
>By this logic at high levels of skill literally no one will ever get hit because they are all so skilled at defending against attacks, no?
They're just so skilled at defending against he basics.
At higher level skill, you need more than the basics, and more than just the intermediate stuff.
You need more than the basics, intermediate stuff, and advanced stuff.
You need to be advanced in skill at blending the advanced, intermediate, and advanced, stuff.

Did I fail to mention that the current state of martial arts is sub-par? Because, the current state of martial arts is sub-par.

We don't have enough people birthed to dedicated, knowledgeable, and intelligent, skilled martial artists who will do all within their power to raise a magnificent martial artist from birth.

>>2252712
What lack of skill when it happens all the time to the absolute best

>>2252722
What do you think of the most intelligent man in a room full of severely mentally retarded children?

>>2252726
Are you the mentally retarded children?

>>2252730
I am but one man.

>>2248177
>terrible at everything
This work is genius!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CE7_dCbwlk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iGyJowMlw8

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>>2248177
>terrible at everything
This is a fine wall-run, if I do say so myself; especially for someone who hadn't practiced for a while.

>>2252950
>>2248177
And that landing technique is good.

A lot of Parkour and FreeRunning practitioners and observers often overlook the subtleties of the basics.

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>>2248177
Just take a look at this Tic Tac and landing technique; it's damn fine.

>>2252975
So smooth and efficient, like an ocelot with a gunshot wound

>>2252721
>the current state of martial arts is sub Par

I should have guessed you were a TMA fag. Martial arts are at a higher level now than they've ever been due to the rise of MMA.

>>2243696
Greg?

>>2253618
Not Greg, but Greg sounds like a cool dude. Say hello to him from me.

I'm training in Muay Thai and I'd like to increase my flexibility when I have free time at home.

Anybody got anything to help me? Some yoga or whatever?

>>2252168
>be me
>for first 5 years of my time there is this cunt we will call V
>V was considered the baddest bitch. Like Ronda Rousey hype pre knockouts
>Always would btfo people in sparring.
>Few years in when I become Black belt, we become friendly and all
>We date
>Insert worst mistake of my life
>being a weeb cuck I was ruined from the start
>Literally became her lil bitch
>Couldn't bring myself to hit her at all in sparring
>Have fun sparring other girl
>She breaks up with me for having more fun actually being able to train instead of being afraid to be myself
Another story from when we first dated
>About a week in I go to see play with family
>At intermission hanging with bros who also went (school was running the production at this theatre)
>See her parent's (ps Dad was pretty cool guy and her mom was very quiet but nice)
>She texts me
>"WTF we are through. You didn't tell me you were going, and you didn't text me at intermission"
>Cry in bathroom trying to solve problem
>First person to make me cry like that ever

Now she works with her kind at dog shows. Literally pussy whipped me and made me feel relationships aren't worth it.

I know it isn't a funny story and all but you would have to be there to understand I guess.

>>2253721
do splits

>>2253083
I'm not a TMAfag and I'm a big advocate of MMA. Martial arts may be better than before, but a step above shit is still pretty shitty.

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>>2253721

It is very important that you do full warmup first before you do stretching to increase your flexibility.

If you do stretching without warmup it will possibly make you more stiff instead.

>>2252152

I agreed that Parkour is great defense but I don't dare call it martial arts but rather escape arts or athletic arts.

When it become warmer I will try to practice Parkour to combined with my Muay Thai skills, like Tony Jaa.

>>2254341
Yeah, and split his muscle fibers.

>>2254378
Don't respond to the bait.

>>2254585
It might be b8, but that doesn't make it false.

Some people just can't handle the hard, cold truth.

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>>2254710
But anon, the cold hard truth is that in an urban environment it is incredibly unlikely that a traceur would be able to outpace a sprinter. If your goal is to GTFO, it is far more efficient to try an simply run to where there are other people instead of hiding on a rooftop like a cat.

Don't get me wrong, parkour is fucking cool but everything in that first comment was retarded.

Also, what the fuck captcha?

>>2254803
>is that in an urban environment it is incredibly unlikely that a traceur would be able to outpace a sprinter.
Have you traveled the world, studied the architecture, and studied the architecture based on Parkour and sprinting?

No matter how humanly fast you can sprint, you can't sprint up or through a 10ft wall that the traceur did a wall-up up.
Unless you're an Olympic track and field athlete, who is also quite tall, if you can even get up that wall in the first place using just your body and your shoes, it'll take you longer to get up there than it would take a skilled traceur.

If you want to get into skilled athletes, a Parkour is basically just a track and field jockey but with a different move set, but a move set that still includes sprinting, long jump, standing long jump, and high jump.

You get two people with the same amount of skill, but one is a traceur, and the other one is a sprinter, the traceur is still going to get away from the sprinter in a lot of urban environments.

>>2254803
>everything in that first comment was retarded.
You're retarded.

>>2254378
>It is very important that you do full warmup first before you do stretching to increase your flexibility.If you do stretching without warmup it will possibly make you more stiff instead.
This guy gets it.

>>2254987
I'm not saying that a sprinter could get up a ten foot wall, I'm saying that a sprinter could just run away in another direction.


>You get two people with the same amount of skill, but one is a traceur, and the other one is a sprinter, the traceur is still going to get away from the sprinter in a lot of urban environments.

A traceur could get to a specific place faster because they can go over obstacles whereas a sprinter has to go around. However if you're being chased by someone who wants to hurt you, you most likely don't have a destination other than "away".

>>2254988
That may be, but I'm not wrong.

>>2254374
So your standard for not sub Par is better than ever was achieved in human history? You're fucking dumb.

>>2255017
you do realize if your able to easily go over an obstacle and the person chasing you can't, you can most likely create distance by going over some obstacles.

>>2255138
Yes, that's obvious. However just running away is both safer and more reliable. You can't always count on there being obstacles that you can get over but whoever is chasing you can't, but you can always count on there being a sidewalk to run on.

>>2255153
while it is true that just running is the best option in a situation where you need to get out, those who train in parkour learn how to go quickly into a sprint. i also find it more common for martial artists to dabble in parkour, rather than train to also be sprinters.

is this the only non-mandrama thread on /asp/?

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>>2255183
/mag/, /hema/, /asg/ and /esg/ are the only bastions of old-/asp/ left
>i fucking hate hiro

>>2255138
Imagine if all of the world was a societally developed as American, Canada, the UK and the like. Imagine if MMA was a part of the PE curriculum.

Imagine if people took MMA as seriously as some people take science and technology seriously.

>>2255138
Have you ever stopped to consider the possibility that the way you interpreted the information in the post, and the actual information in the post, are different things?

>>2255275
there would be a lot more injury and crippled young adults. martial arts should be left to places that specialize in martial arts, if you tried to make it apart of public education you would run into the same problems that education faces now:
-people only able to perform well in a test setting
-underfunded faculty leading to bad teaching
-over crowded classrooms where sufficient knowledge isn't passed down

>>2255326
>people only able to perform well in a test setting
>underfunded faculty leading to bad teaching
>overcrowded classrooms where sufficient knowledge isn't passed down
Correlation isn't causation.

>>2255456
sure, if you completely rebuild the education system you could create a good martial arts program in public school. otherwise, you would see far too many of the examples of the points i listed.

>>2255153
>However just running away is both safer and more reliable.
Parkour IS just running away, except it's more reliable. When there are no obstacles, Parkour is just sprinting.

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lmao, unironically linking https://www.youtube.com/user/theKravMagaTraining as a source, its literally a fucking meme

This is going to be a stupid post but, during class do any of you guys ever feel like a girl is there for sexual intentions?
In bjj class I was drilling before the fundamentals class with a girl that was pretty new about a week of training and she was trying to remember a move that we could drill but she couldn't remember the name (or the move) and she asked me to get top mount a few times to see if she could do it from there (She couldn't) then she asked me to get in her closed guard, and when I did she asked me to push on her chest I complied Inadvertently pushing on her breasts we did that for atleast a minute when the class started and we started working on other moves.
Why did she have me do that does she have a crush on me or am I an idiot?

>>2255847
Ask her to Frick frack after class

>>2256053
I'm thinking about that but I don't want her to think I'm a creep.

>>2256086
Be a normies and ask her to go to dinner then

What does "HEEM" mean?

People who don't train their Ashi are literally fucking retards. Is Wu and Fats still around?

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>>2256512
>wu and fats still around
i haven't heard those names in a long time
>except to make fun of wu

I did mma when I was a kiddo and did pretty well. I don't have money to join a gym, but I have a 100 lb heavy bag and I know how to correctly throw a kick and a punch. Don't know shit about grappling, I hated the bjj gym I went to. Can I teach myself basic martial arts in my back yard with a punching bag? I know I need to spar, so how would I go about getting people to spar with?

>>2256765
This is a retarded idea that can only end wrong.

>>2256765
You can learn technique, and you can even learn very good technique alone, but learning and developing skill in the application becomes more difficult when alone.

>>2248177
yeah, good old Wu-style tai chi chuan
wonder what he is up to now
and while we're at it, wonder what the dozen other namefags from our glorious past are up to

>>2255847
Probably an idiot, just ask her out.
But in reality she probably just wants to fucking train. She can't help it she has tits.

I just joined a gym and started training and needed to buy a mouthguard for use for kickboxing/Muay thai/boxing sparring. The 8$ "boxing/MMA exclusive" mouthguard at the store looked shitty and flimsy so I bought a $25 UA Armourshield mouthguard for 'contact sports'. When I got home I realized that it said 'contact sports *excluding martial arts,boxing etc."

Is it safe to use or should I go buy a MMA/boxing exclusive brand guard at a combat sports store?
>inb4 get a dentist custom mouthguard

>>2257349
Just use the one you have, a good mouth guard will do it's job regardless of what sport you are doing. Special branding is just to try and get more money out of you, this is what I use:
https://www.shockdoctor.com/gel-max-mouthguard

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nigga looks like he's obeying his mother or something

>>2257636
I've been out of the loop; who is that guy?

>>2257649
nik lentz, getting his as kicked right now
his guard is so loose

>>2257168
Your right but I feel like most girls wouldn't ask me to do that and if they did they'd immediately ask me to stop idk I think I'm reading into this too much.

>>2257695
>I think I'm reading into this too much.
You're just not analyzing the data objectively enough.

streaming tonights fights at weebcrew.moe

>>2257777
lol @ shit card
I coulda gone tonight, I passed on the tickets. I'm not paying $200 to see women fight

>>2257890
except their fights are usually less disappointing
i think you were beaten by one

>>2258018
one time a girl sucker punched me, really hard gut punch, knocked the wind out of me. But a girl couldn't actually beat me in a fight

>>2257661
>his guard is so loose
Let's see you fight live on television in front of a large crowd of people.

Anybody shadowboxing here?

Or filming their own workouts?

here is mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kokO25nZVBY

Please share your videos, lets all do out best today!

>>2259499
>Or filming their own workouts?

>be me
>get knee injury
>be out
>still physically active, just nothing too fun
>reinjure myself a few more times
>it's been months
>recover well enough
>go out to do some slow-paced nature Parkour

Not my best, but at least I'm doing something again.

>going up the waterfall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT_3FQp9Qhs

>descending the waterfall
1:30 to 1:53 is one of my favourite parts. Freerunners and Trickers like to do all of these flashy tricks and moves, but as more of a Parkour purist, there's nothing like a roll. Nothing says efficiency like fucking all of the other steps and routs, and just jumping straight fucking there. You still have to do something with the forces, however, so you roll.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDYD6Ndgb4

>>2259499
My shoulders are all fucked up so I've been shadow wrestling lately and working on stand ups

>>2259558
>so I've been shadow wrestling
Anon, I'm interested in seeing this; would you be so kind as to record yourself Shadow Wrestling, and post a link to the video for us?

>>2259499
>Please share your videos
no >:(

>>2259551
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDYD6Ndgb4
I just wanted to let all of you know that between 03:01 and 03:04, there used to be video of me taking a piss in that location, but I edited it out.

>pissing up stream from everybody

>>2259575
Really inspiring. You should add punk music in the background.

>>2259551
I don't understand how walking through a forest is supposed to be impressive

>>2260076
It's not about being impressive; some might say it's about sharing experiences.

>gym near me has a golden gloves winner and current #1 boxer in the state in his weightclass
>want to train there because I figure they know what they're doing
>no online presence, not listed in the phone book, coaches don't have facebooks
What the fuck

>>2261187
>because I figure they know what they're doing
Knowing how to Box and knowing how to teach Boxing are two very different things.

If you spent 2 years having someone teach you perfect punching technique, 2 years of having someone correct all of your minor imperfections, all you've learned is how to take orders.
You've failed to learn how to spot imperfections in technique, you've failed to learn how to tell people exactly what to do differently, you've failed to learn how teach.
But that doesn't mean it can't be good.

>>2261187
I was hired as an instructor by a golden gloves winner for his gym, which has produced national and pan american champions many times over
I assume this means I know what I'm doing even though I never competed before

>>2259574
>>Please share your videos
2nded

>>2261944
>>2262041
The guy started boxing at 24 with absolutely no combat sports experience and minimal sports experience period and 5 years later was one of the best amateur boxers in the country. Now he's a professional with a 10-0 record. All because of the trainers at his gym. It's pretty damn obvious they know what they're doing.

>>2262588
Correlation is not causation. There is currently not sufficient data to come to any conclusions on whether or not they truly know what they're doing.
Believing that they do or do not know what they're doing, is simply delusion.

That's why I will not believe or disbelieve that your post is either a trolling shitpost meant to induce a negative emotional response from me (or to gather information on me, for whatever reason, or whatever else), or just some post bread from ignorance and delusion.

It's okay to be ignorant and delusional; an extremely large majority of humanity is ignorant and delusional, if not all of humanity. By accepting that we don't know, we take our first steps on the path to truth.

You can live your life in darkness, only ever imagining light, or you can truly illuminate the files before you, living a life of truth.

>>2262588
You know, there are so many factors that contribute to what is, any given thing, for example, success.
There are so many factors, it's beautiful, really.

>>2263789
Shit, I didn't realize you were one of the wrasslefags until now. That's egg on my face, I guess.

>>2264231
Well, who doesn't like a little foreplay, right?

I'll show you egg on your face.

>>2263789
Go back to your cave, Plato, and take your dumb shitposting bait with you.

https://youtu.be/obpIXU-Ye6U

Thoughts? This guy seems pretty tough

>>2267836
>boy
>is taller and larger than anyone else in the video

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Does /asp/ like old memes?

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>>2268134
>Does /asp/ like old memes?
Who doesn't!?

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>>2268134
>>2268750
i miss old /asp/

>>2224871
So he can become a badass cop
>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=COD6GG7WE60

>>2269530
at 0:09 the guy disappears from the car

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How does 52 blocks fare in mma? Why?

>>2267836
well, he's larping and the asians are polite enough to let him hang out in their gym because he doesn't seem to be bothering anybody

>Every martial art in the world besides all of those which include any use of weapons has formed an army of 100,000 men each
>These men all have at least 15 years of training under their given martial art
>They're all plopped into a battlefield for a massive fight until either all men are killed or their army surrenders
Which army comes out on top? Which army fizzles out or surrenders the fastest?

>>2271062
Aikido fizzels out the fastest because they have 15 years of aikido experience

>>2270355
leaves you open to body kicks, and the typical boxing stance has too much weight on the front leg, will also leave you open to getting leg kicked to death.

15 years in Judo here. Feel free to ask me anything.

Is wrestling/judofag still here? Did /asp/ lose him too?

>>2232026
Not really, if you watched the Paris Grand Slam, minus a couple of bad refereeing decisions, it's pretty plain to see what it negative and what is positive, personally it seems more objective to me than the previous rules.

Worth adding to >>2228501 that you have 45 seconds to set up a throw with your grip. If you take a single sided sleeve and lapel grip, you no longer have to attack immediately, but you must have positive movement that works toward ippon.

>>2250119
>What do you think I should supplement Kenpo with? (What martial art should I look into next to add to my toolbox?)

Judo.

Also, your Kenpo school sounds awful. Give it up.

>>2271427
How do I get better faster? I've been doing judo since September and I still have trouble with simple stuff like seoi nage, but I can only go to two training sessions a week, sometimes only one. Is it worth it for me to do uchikomi at home or am I just going to get bad habits? Should I read books/watch videos?

>>2271735
Seoi-nage isn't simple stuff, it's a highly technical throw with many different elements. You can stumble through it and make it work, but to nail it every time like the pros, you need to do it again and again and again for years.

I'm guessing it's the technical aspects of the throw you're struggling with? Firstly, what's your height and weight, and are you one of the taller/heavier guys at your club? Secondly, what part of the throw do you feel you're struggling with?

There's no way of getting better faster other than training more unfortunately. If you're gassing out at training, then you should do some HIIT style cardio so that you can train harder for longer. Solo uchi-komi at home only works if you can identify when you execute a technique wrongly and know how to correct it.

>>2271751
I'm 5'11 and about 175 pounds, about average for our club, though I definitely struggle with some of the heavier people.

Mostly I have trouble bending my knees while going into seoi-nage, they feel stiff and I can't get my center of gravity low enough. Plus more generally I tend to lose my balance whenever I attempt a throw, which makes me more afraid of trying them during randori.

Thanks for the help!

>>2271758
It sounds like you're struggling more with using your momentum when loading someone onto your hips, how do you feel when throwing with O-goshi? Do you lose balance then, and are you ok with getting you centre of gravity low enough through the throw?

If the answer to those questions is "yes" and "no", then my advice is to really drill uki-goshi and o-goshi so that you can become comfortable with loading onto your hip with good balance and good technique. Seoi-nage is a brilliant throw, and we see it used all the time in competition, go and watch Cheng in the -90kgs and Hashimoto in the -73kgs in last weekends Paris Grand Slam to see a masterclass of how it works.

If you have something to practice uchi-komi with, like a resistance band, I would instead practice kizushi with it, big pulls in the direction you want uke to be, concentrate on quality rather than quantity, and then at your next available chance, try the kizushi against a partner.

Don't fear getting thrown or losing balance in randori. Everyone gets thrown at the club, it's just as important to get thrown as it is to throw.

>>2271777
Thanks a lot, mate, yes, I do have problems with my hip throws so I'll work on that! Also thanks for the references.

>>2271751
>there's no way of getting better faster
That's stupid bullshit.
Different combinations of different training methods are more efficient than others.
Different combinations of training methods work more efficiently for some individuals than others.

Failing to obtain adequate sleep impairs cognitive function, and therefore impairs one's ability to learn and develop skill.

Failing to maintain healthy psychological health impairs cognitive function, and therefore impairs one's ability to learn and develop skill

One's cognition works best at certain times during one's sleep-wake patterns, so one would learn and develop skill more efficiently during those periods.

One's diet also contributes to cognitive function.

>>2250119
If you are already learning take downs, I'd recommend BJJ, if not than Judo.

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>>2269167
>>2268750
>>2268134

Yo guys ive been doing judo for 13+ years, 1st dg BB, I used to post here before it got kekd. im 6'0 245 and do HVAC for a living. Are there any good memes in this general?

I'm doing my first kickboxing tournament soon. I mainly have a muay thai style, however the competition is open style but run under long trouser kickboxing rules.

Leg kicks are obviously banned and knees too. How would I go about fighting my opponents? I have trouble getting past tkd sidekicks. I'm thinking of just exchanging kicks from afar and rush/counter them with punches coupled with kicks at the end.

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>>2272831
>mfw le troll shows better technique than the original
>>2272867
the memes have been pushed out by the mandrama, no one even talks about pipebomb-fu anymore
>>2272930
you'll have to move in while they're starting to retract their leg, then get into clinch distance and fuck their shit up

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>>2271062
Goju-Ryu Karate is based martial art!

>>2273119
No pipebombs? How far this place has fallen

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>>2273176
that obviously goes without saying. Normally when people ask these questions we can just assume goju is already exempt from the conversation in the interest of fairness and discussion

>>2273197
How narrow minded of me. I just got emotional and that made me stupid. You're right, it should go without saying.

New thread goes here:
>>2275222