/asg/ - Airsoft General

>>1966628
>core
Not
>corps
That's some high level spelling.

>>1966651
I can already tell this is gunna be a fun thread
https://youtu.be/jrijLrFTcO4

>>1966651
shut up faggot

>>1966686
Thank you for your service

>>1966687
No.

Thank YOU, faggot.

>>1966628
>How many of you have played with people who are in/have service, and what's it like?

I played w/ someone who got fucked up in an IED blast. Had fake teeth and his legs hurt all the time, but he played just as hard as anyone else on the field. Cool guy, 10/10 would play with again.

>>1966628
>Also, if /asg/ was to have one definitive loadout that everyone had to follow, what would it be?
Whatever you want to wear or play as.

>Also, if /asg/ was to have one definitive loadout that everyone had to follow, what would it be?

No skull masks of any kind especially skullfag tier shit.

No anime patches

No lmgs with scopes on them except for 249's and 240's

Marui pistols will be standard

No high level shit.

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>any primary, but it must have a cheap scope and a vertical grip on it, if it has a stock, it must have blue and white wrapping on it
>GBBRs must only have real steel optics
>DMRs must be accurate enough up to get consistent headshots 300yds
>snipers can only have M99s
>if sidearm is GBB, a MK23 is only allowed
> green russain helmet, /asg/ spray painted in grey on the back
>right side of helmet has a WE-Tech patch
>left side has a TM patch
>if it has a NVG mount on it, a fake PVS 14 must be on it
>black multicam top, m81 trousers
>rainbow patch on one arm, marine core patch on other
>skull balaclava obviously
>no anime patches or you get immediately outcasted
>gloves are skeleton gloves
>vest is whatever slavshit you find, must be in OD green and if the mag pouches are moveable, make them upside down
>you must refuse to play if anyone on the field uses lipos

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>>1966724
HOLY SHIT!!THIS IS TOO MUCH LOL!!! XD

>>1966628
>United States Marine Core
>Airsoft kid thinking he's a Marine

>>1966724
>DMRs must be accurate enough up to get consistent headshots 300yds

the muhreen core requires 500m qualifying, faggot. semper fi, carry on.

>>1966757
this is a reference to the " anons perfect airsoft field "

not the marines

>>1966724
Don't forget
>Must spend at least 6 hours off field arguing with someone or pedantic shit

>>1966724
kek

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>buys WE-tech
>comes with two mags
>one doesn't hold gas out of the box
Not sure if I like they're guns yet or not

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TEAM 811 is a dedicated Airsoft MILSIM team and we are looking for active recruits to fill our ranks.

the team is not short on experience, talent, and dedication.

We currently have 8 full members of the team, with 2 being active US Army. 811 has active “recruits” and we are looking for more.

TEAM 811 has more to offer than your average airsoft team:
>The eight full members combined offer a total of over 30 years of airsoft experience
>A combined total of 41 national events played, 10 regional events, and an endless number of local level experience, games at numerous fields.
>Military, Military Science, & History Study experience
>Leadership experience that surpasses any other airsoft team in the region. Our members have been national level squad leaders, National level Platoon leaders, National Level XO and CO roles along with Commanding Officers of regional and local level events.
>Expert knowledge of airsoft equipment as well as “real deal” gear that is practical in the MILSIM environment.


What are we looking for in a recruit?
>Honor and Integrity
>Dedication- be at practices, team events.
>Endurance- physical and mental
>Maturity- be willing to learn and accept others concepts, ideas, and constructive feedback. Have a handle on and manage your ego.
>Team Player- follow command and work as a team, know your job and execute it
>Reliable equipment- M4 based variants that will withstand extended play time.

The list above is good to get you started. If you truly feel you are ready to be part of an organized professional airsoft team, check our fb.

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>How many of you have played with people who are in/have service, and what's it like?

Well.... I live right outside the airbase of camp Lejeune, and I only face two types of hostiles; Cony's best child soldiers and cannon fodder, and currently in-service members of the military ranging from the Airforce to Green Berets. I almost like to think of the difficulty gap being something like Titanfall. You have your NPCs battling it out all over, easy kills for you, and then you have the players who are mixed in with the NPCs that are presenting the real challenge. I've actually gotten a kick out of turning corners and seeing the children cowering behind a wall and executing them pic related style.
As for the military, they are also everywhere. Quite a challenge, too. They wear some of the "best" kit, and I'm pretty sure you can get where I'm coming from with that.

>>1966774
>Lie : the post
You Turdkyo Memerui loyalists must be desperate if you are forced to lie like this lmao

>>1966828
memerui mk23 owner here. i actually like it. i had a memerui high capa, and it was a toilet gun. the wetech hi capas i had were better.

at least they're not kwa's blowing peoples hands open.

>>1966834
>no timestamped proof


do we need to do this again

>>1966850
i dont give a fuck what you think. i don't make proving myself to retards on /asp/ a high priority. this was over a year ago when i got rid of most of my airsoft shit. you can sit there and buy into the marui hype all you want. waste your money, nigger.

>>1966858
>being this upset and sensitive

kek

D I S R E G A R D E D

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>>1966872
>taking the marui bait

>>1966876
D I S R E G A R D E D

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>>1966886
>buys into the marui meme
>tells others they're D I S R E G A R D E D

>>1966834
>fell for the memek23
>when the ASG one performs exactly the same
lmao
>"b-but the suppressor!"
It takes 10 minutes to open and insert baffles inside the ASG suppressor.

>>1966893
DIS

>>1966899
INTEGRATED

>>1966899
RE

>>1966899
FUNCTIONAL

>>1966901
god dammint fuck you

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>>1966897
>trying this hard
>not knowing i got it for $100 with 3 mags, the LAM, the case, and the suppressor.

mfw you're still trying.

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>>1966905

>>1966911
>still trying
>just started posting
These Memerui victims are crazy

>>1966920
SUPERPOWER BY 2020

>>1966911
>still more expensive
>shitty marui mags
>LAM unit, more like LMAO unit because it's ugly, bulky, and shitty
o i am laffin

>>1966926
>im too babby teir to handle a flashlight and lazer on my gun
>i think it's ugly so it's shit and nobody should buy it

DIS

>>1966934
RE

>>1966939
GAR

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>>1966926
>more like 2/3 mags were y&p,
>implying the lam doesn't increase value
>implying it doesnt look like shit without the lam on it
>forgetting it came with the case
>saying marui is better than the clones while saying the clone is better

m
f
w

>>1966943
DED

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>>1966947
>>>1966949
>>1966943

43 posts in, and the thread is already a shitshow

jesus christ this general is such a shithole.

>>1966963
the door is always open faggot

>>1966967
can we actually talk about airsoft instead of making fun of each other and shitposting for once? what the fuck happened to /asg/?

>>1966934
>flashlight
My pendrive's led is more powerful than that shit.
>laser
What laser? Lmao
>>1966947
>mags are now conveniently not marui
>talking about value when I'm clearly talking about performance
>same with the case
>implying I outright sidn't say that they both perform exactly the same

You desperate now

>>1966947
>more like 2/3 mags were y&p
Okay you are lying now since y&p mags are no 100% compatible and need to be modified slightly to work in the TM replica.
Busted.

>>1966971
pushing personas and trying to establish identity on an anonymous imageboard is what happened and it's been going on for ages.

>>1966971
>what the fuck happened to /asg/?
Autism.

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>>1966972
>implying I said mags were Marui
>turns out 3/4 were y&p (goes to show the last time I used this shit)
>I got more for my money
>now says Marui and clones perform the same

Are you this asshurt you got ripped off? For real?

>>1966974
>the y&p mags aren't 100% compatible
I don't know what you're talking about, because They work for me.

>>1967026
>more for my money
You still paid three timesthe cost. You technically didn't get more lmao
>now says
>now
>>1966897

Keep trying memeruiboy

>>1967026
>Marui and clones perform the same
But that's not true. Mags are whatever, but the Y&P is hot garbage of a pistol.

>>1967043
L I T E R A L L Y
S A M E
P E R F O R M A N C E

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>>1967041
The asg one is $33? Cuz I paid $100 for everything. You're such a fucking joke, dude. You sat there and bitch up a storm and how great Marui is, but now you're saying the clone is just as good? funny

>>1966972
>flashlight
>Wanting a hella bright flashlight when he's in cqb to blind his enemies, guys!

You sound like one of the fat 12 year olds that plays at the same field as me. He learned how to play airsoft from battlefield4 and can't say "r" sounds.

Threadly reminder that more fps equals to more range.

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>>1967066
It's ok to have an opinion, even if it's wrong

>>1966628
Am Finnish so most players here have been in the army for atleast 6months. Its nice because you can play as a team with strangers and they know their stuff, but wont take the game too seriously.

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NOW LOOK AT THIS WETECH

>>1967062
>The asg one is $33?
You are claiming you bought yours for 100$ and you suddenly feel like 33$ for a clone is unrealistic? Lmao
>You sat there and bitch up a storm and how great Marui is
The fuck you talking about nigger? I never said anything about how great Marui is.
>wanting a useless flashlight encased in a bulky and ugly 'tacticool' attachment
Anyone that isn't retarded would pick a better flashlight over that shit.

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>>1967081
THAT I JUST FOUND

WHEN I SAY GO

BE READY TO THROW

>>1967074
>opinion
>facts are now opinions
This guy
>anime
That explains it I guess.

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>>1967084

Plate carrier recommendations? I wanna get something that isn't tan or multicam. A ranger or OD green would be great.

>>1967095
JPC

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>>1967081
WE SELL BROKEN GUNS

>>1967087
But it isn't. I owned a gun that only shot 150fps, just a little pop gun, and I could hit some pretty far targets with it.

>>1967104
>But it isn't
I guess your replica had some magic power that defied the laws of physics.
Was it a Tokyo Marui by any chance?

>>1967098
I knew someone was going to say that. To be honest Im a big guy and a jpc would look tiny on me.

>>1967109
No, when I said pop gun- I meant POP GUN. This was just a double eagle 45 dollar g36, had it a long time ago.

>>1967111
U x4

>>1967082
The asg one is 54 euros you twat. No case, no lam. That's about $60, so a little over half of what I payed, factor in shipping and and the $40 In mags you'd have to buy to get what I got, excluding everything else. Get fucked and stay fucked, you colossal pile of failure.

>not wanting the light that comes with it
>thinking is uses the standard 1913 rail
>having to buy an adapter and a light to put on it if you want one
>spending more money for your "cost effective" clone.
>wanting a bright ass light for cqb
>having a light on it at all if it's your outdoor backup

This sure is the muhreen edition alright...

>>1967111
JPC IS tiny. I'm 1.85 and 90kg myself.
A JPC and a battlebelt is one of the best setups you can go with really. It's lightweight while having all the weaving necessary for your tacticool necessities.

But hey if that's not your thing...

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>>1967112
>still in denial
Whatever makes you not blow up in an autistic meltdown, kid.

>>1967111
Chest rig is your best bet

>>1967118
Not the previous guy, just hopped on because I had an experience like this

if this was true, 2 guns both shooting 400 fps would always have the same range

>>1967126
is for
>>1967066

>>1967114
>The asg one is 54 euros you twat.
The TM is 160. Your point?
>No case
Irrelevant performance-wise.
>No lam
Irrelevant as a whole because doesn't increase performance and it's shit doing what it is supposed to do.

>wanting a ugly, weak af, bulky shit
>implying I ever implied it uses standard rail
>an afaptor and a better flashlight is still cheaper
>not actually spending more money for the same initial product plus extra stuff
>not wanting a better light
>paying for a bulky, ugly and weak af LAM unitthat you are not going to use if the replica is your outdoor backup

Lmao

>>1967131
sour grapes, anion.

sour grapes.

>>1967137
>no retort
Expected as much.

>>1967131
the argument was how much i spent vs what i could have got for the clone, dumbass.

>not keeping your shit in cases
when not in use.
>implying the lam isn't fine for light out games at indoor fields
>having to spend more money to get a light later down the line if you want one
>still wanting a bright as fuck light for indoor
>implying an adapter and a laser light combo would be any less bulky
>implying its ugly
>still being assdamaged i got all the shit you're gunna buy later for less.

>>1967123
That's fantastic.
That anecdotal evidence still doesn't change how kinetic energy is calculated though.

>>1967113
Ehhh more like Ux2
>>1967115
I tried on a jpc in my lgs, is there a way to adjust it to fit my barrel chested frame? Also what type of plate carriers the military and law enforcement is using?
>>1967120
I own a condor one pretty comfy. Wanna get a Chicom one and build a OPFOR loadout this winter with gold Ak

>>1967126
>>1967128
In the same conditions both gats shooting at the same speed would indeed shoot the same distance.

Keep denying reality if you want, though.

>>1967149
which is why there are thousands of different hop ups and hop up buckings.

>>1967143
Aye, that may be, but just because something isn't fast, doesn't mean it can't travel far

>>1967141
I keep my stuff in cases though. A shockproof and waterproof nylon case costs like 4 bucks.
The light is shit no matter how much you want to twist it.
Technically it costs more the LAM than a weapon light.
>Still wanting a weak as fuck light anywhere.
>Implying it isn't igly
>implying I didn't get mine+adapter+pl for less

Lmao

>>1967153
Buckings only get you so far though.
>>1967157
>just because something isn't fast doesn't mean it can't travel far
That's exactly what it means. I literally posted how to calculate kinetic energy.

Are you all high schoolers or something?
You are literally arguing with the laws of physics here.

>>1967164
Really? so you're saying an SR-71 blackbird can go farther than a nuclear powered aircraft carrier?

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>its a old arguement that will never end again episode
>except there's fucking two of them at the same time this time around

what the actual fuck, man.

>>1967160
>A shockproof and waterproof nylon case costs like 4 bucks
keep telling yourself that.
>the light is shit no matter how much you want to twist it
depends how you're using it. you're obviously like those kids that "get a wite so i ken bwiiiid teh uhva teeeem!'
>its ugly
refer to this anon's post;>>1967074
>implying I didn't get mine+adapter+pl for less
id like to see that.

>>1967164
>Buckings only get you so far though.
this just proves that fps alone isnt the secret to more range

>>1967171
Are tou saying that bbs are powered by jet fuel?
Don't start with retarded comparisons that do not apply here.

>>1967173
>keep telling yourself that
Keep being in denial.
>depends how you're using it
You are right about that. If I want to light something it is shit but if I want to knock someone out with it the LAM is better suited for that job.
>opinion
It's fucking ugly. That's my opinion and that of many others.
It's still objectively bulky, weak and requires a special holster.
>I'd like to see that
I'd like to see that too. Related to your claim of you paying 100$ for the TM and a gazillion mags.

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>>1967172
These autism arguments need to get banned

>>1967176
>fps alone
Nowhere I said 'fps alone'.
For yes, if you are not ahooting at enough fos the bucking means nothing because the stop will fall short.

That's the proof you know nothing about what you are talking about.

>>1967172
>mfw I'm always causing these arguments then bail out and leave the autists to argue endlessly
I'm not proud but I'm a big reason why the general is shit.

>>1967192
Wow this fucking autocorrect.

>But yes, if you are not shooting at enough fps the bucking means nothing because the spin will fall short and won't lift the bb

>>1967189
>Keep being in denial.
hasn't posted any pics or links
>You are right about that. If I want to light something it is shit but if I want to knock someone out with it the LAM is better suited for that job.
implying it doesn't put out more than enough light for seeing shit in a cqb scenario.
>knock someone out with it
this is airsoft burh
>It's still objectively bulky, weak and requires a special holster.
its not more or less bulky than it would be with an adapter and light, and all pistols with lights need a special holster, and if it's your backup why does it have a light i the firstplace?
>I'd like to see that too. Related to your claim of you paying 100$ for the TM and a gazillion mags.
what is buying local

you still haven't even posted your magical clone yet?

>>1967178
Okay, how about a baseball with a high curve and a baseball with a bit more power flat

>>1967205
>implying it doesn't put out more than enough light for seeing shit in a cqb scenario
I'm not implying it. I'm outright saying it.
And I haven't even started talking about the shitty non-led bulb and how it chugs battery.
>this is airsoft burh
And that was a joke about the LAM being heavy and bulky. *Woooosh* I guess.
>its not more or less bulky than it would be with an adapter and light
HAHHAAA YOU SERIOUS NOW?!
>all pistols with lights need a special holster
Good luck fitting your "totally not bulky at all I swer" in a universal holster.
>if it's your backup why does it have a light i the firstplace?
If it's your backup why would you overpay for an attachment that would see no use?
>what is buying local
What I did with the ASG clone to get it that cheap even with all that extra stuff :^)

>>1967221
>avoiding half of his reply

post your clone anon

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>>1967221
>non led bulb
Keep telling yourself that

>>1967207
I don't know what a high curve is or a more power flat is. Not a baseball guy.

I'll put it simple for you:
If the guy throw a baseball the same way (Flat or whatever) at 100kmh and then does the same throw at 200kmh the 200kmh one will go further because it has more energy.

>>1967233
Aye, I guess you're right on that. I was just thinking about how if one is higher, it can go a further or equal length

>>1967221
>I'm not implying it. I'm outright saying it.
its alright to be wrong. have fun blinding yourself and being a beacon to the other team
>And I haven't even started talking about the shitty non-led bulb and how it chugs battery
see>>1967230
>HAHHAAA YOU SERIOUS NOW?!
i guess a plastic box with a few AAA's, an led, and a switch it in weight more than your adapter and metal light. even if the lam is heavier, its not my fault you're too much of a little girl to hold the extra weight
>Good luck fitting your "totally not bulky at all I swer" in a universal holster.
if its your secondary, why do you need the light?
>What I did with the ASG clone to get it that cheap even with all that extra stuff :^)
still hasn't posted his shit yet.

>>1967229
Why should I post anything? Lmao
You grasping hard boy
>>1967230
You ate correct.
I meant non-good led bulb.
I mean that shit outputs 10 lum which is what people use at night to not lose nighsight.
>powerful enough for cqb
More like for reading a boom.

>>1967241
I'm assuming a curve ball uses the magnus principle which makes it 'bend' mid air.
Yes, magnus effect affects how far a bb travels but even the magnus effect is still dependant on the speed when the bb gets in contact with it.
That's why underhop and overhop can kill your range.
Too much spin makes your bb waste energy arcing up instead of keeping enough spin to 'float'. Not enough spin and the bb will not be able to maintain flight.

>>1967247
>Why should I post anything? Lmao
>You grasping hard boy
you've been proven wrong at every turn so far
>I meant non-good led bulb.
bullshit, because you said "shitty non-led bulb and how it chugs battery." nice attempt at a backpedal
>More like for reading a boom
see>>1967062

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>They wont stop arguing

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>first game a while ago
>see dude's wicked awesome CQB M4 setup, not exactly sure what it was because for some reason I didn't ask him but i remember the setup vividly and from the fact it was electric and hand recoil i think it was a TM
>TM recoil shock, full auto was rigged up to fire 3 round bursts
>quad rail was removed for some replica of one of those bronze daniel defense quad rails
>flashlight on the side was pic related but in tan
>no BUIS, just a Eotech replica
>he lets me check it out, i immediately look at the flashlight because it looked cool
>feel nudge on barrel
>realise after giving me his gun i immediately pointed it at his face
>profusely apologize and he seemed adamant on wanting me to see the recoil from the burst fire
>it was pretty fuckin cache to be honest
>give it back and have fun for the rest of the day

i mean i had trigger discipline, put it on saftey, apologied, he seemed to not mind but after all this time i can't help but feel sick thinking about that one fucking moment

im so sorry

has anyone else had self-cringe moments like this?

>>1967247
>still not posting his clone
>guise i totally have one

ABSOLUTELY DIS

Where is skullfag when we need him?

>>1967243
>its alright to be wrong
Then how comes you are still going on? Kek
>have fun blinding yourself
I'm not sure how you use your light but I guess if you are retarded enough to blind yourself then it is definitely better to do it with a 10lum light.
>guess a plastic box with a few AAA's, an led, and a switch it in weight more than your adapter and metal light.
You guessed right. I totally forgot the LAM is made of brittle plastic but thanks for reminding me.
>if its your secondary, why do you need the light?
If it's your secondary why do you need to pay extra for something that you will not use? Unlike your shitty LAM, I'm not forced to buy it.
>still hasn't posted his shit yet
Still haven't found a reason to post it. Which will make this all the better when I finally post it and you go full damage control.

>>1967254
Yes, that makes better sense now.

>>1967255
It's a shitty led bulb that does chug massive amounts of battery for what it provides though.
>you've been proven wrong at every turn so far
Except I haven't. And even if I have that's not a reason to post it lmao.
>see>>1967062 #
What am I supposed to see? A shameful light even in those conditions? Lmao

>>1967269
on friday nights newfag


and besides, he doesn't actually derail anything like he used to anymore he's stale as fuck

99% they're still gonna argue and there's just gonna be a bit of cocksucking to him ontop or the cancer

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>>1967261
actually have a screencap, apparently i was recording, then.

i think this is when i was shooting

>>1967273
>Then how comes you are still going on? Kek
because i like picking on retarded kids on the internet.
>I'm not sure how you use your light but I guess if you are retarded enough to blind yourself then it is definitely better to do it with a 10lum light.
i don't think you know how the human eye works, especially when light reflects off shit in cqb
>You guessed right. I totally forgot the LAM is made of brittle plastic but thanks for reminding me.
because both of the guns (moreso the clones :^)) aren't already made of plastic?
>If it's your secondary why do you need to pay extra for something that you will not use? Unlike your shitty LAM, I'm not forced to buy it.
because it IS my primary in cqb
>Still haven't found a reason to post it. Which will make this all the better when I finally post it and you go full damage control.
we'll see about that.
>It's a shitty led bulb that does chug massive amounts of battery for what it provides though.
you got proved wrong, and you're still backpedaling.
>What am I supposed to see? A shameful light even in those conditions? Lmao
you're seeing a mk23 with a light on it thats still better than your non existent one.

>>1967255
Why the fuck are you even responding to this retard anymore? He's proven he has no idea what he is even talking about, nor does he even own either MK23s.

Stop replying to him, at this point he is fishing (You)s

>>1967293
>because i like picking on retarded kids on the internet
takes one to know one they say
>don't think you know how the human eye works
Apparently better than you since I'm not saying stupid shit about 'getting blinded' lmao. Not like all that matters since this whole "light too powerful" is you grasping at the first thing you thought was negative. Meanwhile my M720 has a low power mode.
>because both of the guns (moreso the clones :^)) aren't already made of plastic?
Another petty attempt. I never implied the gats are not plastic. And the clone is not moreso plastic as it has the exact same plastic parts.
Meanwhile my metallic light can handle getting hit while yours will break (and even more easily as it is bigger, thus easier to hit)
>because it IS my primary in cqb
So many is mine :^)
>you got proved wrong
Oh no I didn't but hey
>you're still backpedaling
Pointing out that it is a shitty led and that it chugs battery like dicks ur mum is not even remotely close to backpedaling but hey
>you're seeing a mk23 with a light on it thats still better than your non existent one
Shitty light*

>>1967298
>nor does he even own either MK23s
Poor bait

>>1967325
You don't.

>>1967327
Poorer bait.

>>1967329
Than prove you do.

Just saying " b-b-bait! " when you have no response does nothing.

>>1967293
>>1967317
Chill my dudes. You're arguing over playing with toy guns here.

>>1967335
I'll do when I find a reason to.
"Y-y-you don't have it" when you don't have a response does nothing either.
Not like posting it would change nothing as you autists would go full damage control and ask to fill a new retarded request.

>>1967348
>hasn't posted it

exactly

you don't own it

stop acting like you do

>>1967361
I already said this was poor bait bro.

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>>1967348
>he doesn't have it
>that's bait, stop saying i don't have it, i do
>well prove it
>no there's no reason to
>but i thought i was apparently baiting
>well you'll just ask another thing if i do prove it

kek, you're real convincing!

bbwars

>>1967375
You'll for sure ask for something else if I post it though.
There's still no reason (not even a bad reason, even) for me to lift my ass off the couch to go grab the thing to take pics.

Trying to bait me with "lmao u don hav it xD" is not a reason, is a desperate attempt.

>>1967317
>takes one to know one they say
no wonder you dont know shit about the marui mk23
>Apparently better than you since I'm not saying stupid shit about 'getting blinded' lmao. Not like all that matters since this whole "light too powerful" is you grasping at the first thing you thought was negative. Meanwhile my M720 has a low power mode.
destroying your natural night vision doesn't take much light at all. which is why the lam is fine for what it is
>So many is mine :^)
then why were you throwing a shitfit over holsters?
>Pointing out that it is a shitty led and that it chugs battery like dicks ur mum is not even remotely close to backpedaling but hey
you really think an led chugs battery? you have no idea how electronics work then.
>Shitty light
still better than your non existent one

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Post gats. Although I seriously doubt anyone here has them at this point.

>>1967382
>destroying your natural night vision
>nightvision
You are playing in a CQB field not in a catacomb. Stop reaching boy.
>why were you throwing a shitfit over holsters?
same reason you threw a shitfit over lights not having utility in open fields I assume.
>you really think an led chugs battery?
You really can't read? Then no wonder you are still being dense after sll these posts.
>better than your non existent one
LAM so shit that no light at all is better, actually

>>1967377
I won't. Just post it and I won't say anything more. But we all know that won't change anything, right?

You'll just make up shitty excuse #67985 on why you can't or won't provide proof of owning one, as if you're actually making anyone believe you have one.

>>1967394
Umm isn't the orange tip supposed to be on the gun anon...

>>1967394
I have a FN FNC from G&G and I modded it to be GBB but i-i just don't wanna take a picture..

>>1967382
>no wonder you dont know shit about the marui mk23
No wonder you believe the performance of the Turdkio Memerui is better and the subpar light on a heavy, ugly and big unit is fine. :^)

Left this part out in my last post.

>>1967406
>unironically keeping the orange tip

kek

>>1967403
Actually saying that you won't go autistic damage control mode is a good enough reason. Even though it's not true.

I'll post in a few minutes because I have to look where I left it last time I used it.

>>1966778
Can I bring my own truck?

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>>1966628
Discord link doesnt work, or I might be retarded idk

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>>1967394

>>1967396
>You are playing in a CQB field not in a catacomb. Stop reaching boy
lights out means lights out faggot. at least at my field. you have what you carry
>same reason you threw a shitfit over lights not having utility in open fields I assume
i dont use it in outdoor games. thats what my rifle is for
>You really can't read? Then no wonder you are still being dense after sll these posts.
i can read. thats why i think you're fucking stupid
>LAM so shit that no light at all is better, actually
you shat bricks over how "your light" is better than the lam, but now say no light is better. you need to lobotomize yourself with a real mk23. you've been backpedaling and talking in circles this whole time.

>>1967427
Sorry, we had some problems with someone posting the link where it shouldn't go. It's down temporarily. You can join on this link if you like.
https://discord.gg/BpnMG

>>1967447
Thanks my dude

>>1967438
>lights out means lights out faggot
Literally a lie. No field will turn out all lights out.
>muh field
Prove it then :^)
>dont use it in outdoor games. thats what my rifle is for
So you do use a holster then in outdoor games.
Enjoy those extra 200 bucks in a kydex holster because you literally need a custom holster for the shit LAM.
>i can read
Well you clearly can't.
>you shat bricks over how "your light" is better than the lam
I'm not sure 'shitting bricks' makes sense. And I didn't say MY LIGHT. I said that any weaponlight in general is better (which it is) I think I made a regerence to a light I own because it has different light modes but that's it.
>but now say no light is better.
Way to twist my words. I'm saying that LAM is so shit that nothing is better. Not that nothing is better period. You are trying too hard.
>you've been backpedaling
You don't know what backpedaling means it seems.
>and talking in circles
You don't know what talking in circles means, either.
>this whole time
Same as above.

>>1967462
>Literally a lie. No field will turn out all lights out.
if some lights are on, why do you need a light at all then, retard
>Prove it then :^)
because im going to drive there now just to take pictures of the place a play at for the guy who has yet to prove he even owns any airsoft guns
>So you do use a holster then in outdoor games.
Enjoy those extra 200 bucks in a kydex holster because you literally need a custom holster for the shit LAM.
i dont use a pistol outdoor. thats what my rifle is for :^)
>Way to twist my words. I'm saying that LAM is so shit that nothing is better. Not that nothing is better period. You are trying too hard.
not twisting words. you're once again in damage control mode.
>you dont know x
you don't know anything about airsoft or marui

its still funny as fuck how you meme'd the shit out of marui when i said their hi capa is shit, yet now you're sitting there and inflating the fuck out of your clone mk23.

>>1966724
>>left side has a TM patch
shit I have a TM patch from J.K. ARMY on the left side of my helemt

>>1967466
So you wasted (presumably)100 bucks then since you were talking about 'getting more for the money'.
You just literally proved me right since for CQB purposes you could have bought countless cheaper replicas instead of that one.
And that is assuming you actually paid 100$ for it (which you most probably didn't).

And you keep shittalking powerful lights while playing CQB only which is where powerful weaponlights shine the most (pun intended).
As expected, you are retarded.

I'll not even bother replying anymore, considering.
I'll keep looking for the clone for the other guy that wanted a pic and then off to sleep with me.

>>1967466
>funny as fuck how you meme'd the shit out of marui when i said their hi capa is shit
The fuck are you on about? I've never said anything about hicapas. Stop hallucinating kid.

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Post your steals, got this like new GHK and 4 gen 2 mags for 325.

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Here. Had it hooked to a UCP plate carrier that I used last time I played as NATO.
>inb4 UCP
It was a requirement, sue me.

>>1967417
Anon if you don't have the tip on its against the law...

>>1967483
whatever helps you sleep at night :^)

according to you, the cheaper something is the better it must be. you seem like the kids that shop for airsoft stuff at walmart and expect to compete. please homeboy, keep your entry level clone. ill stick with what i got :^) you still have yet to post anything. stick to watching wrestling or something, chairsofter. dont strain yourself looking for a pic on google of the gun you described.

>And you keep shittalking powerful lights while playing CQB only which is where powerful weaponlights shine the most (pun intended).
you're right. because if the lights are on, a light on your gun is redundant, and if the lights are off, a super bright light is nothing but a beacon and a determent to your own eyes that have adjusted to the darkness.

>The fuck are you on about? I've never said anything about hicapas. Stop hallucinating kid.
thought you were>>1966850. either way, your still a nigger.

>>1967494
its about time you posted that. now put a light on it, so we can see how bulky it is with the light on it.

>>1967497
>according to you, the cheaper something is the better it must be
What's with this sudden urge to lie and implications?
I never said that cheaper was better.
>you seem like the kids that shop for airsoft stuff at walmart and expect to compete
More implications. And the best part is that in CQB field whoever owns a mk23 clone can compete easily because there's not enough room to justify buying a expensive gat that is well-known for its effevtive range and accuracy. Hell even the suppression is kind of pointless.
>if the lights are on, a light on your gun is redundant
Not if you go around with a 600lumen weaponlight. In two posts you just proved all my points. Good job.

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>>1967394

>>1967500
>I'm not gonna ask for anything else after I swer
Get fucked kid. As expected you are now grasping and asking for
more alienating requests that I stated numerous times I wouldn't fill.

>>1967508
>I never said that cheaper was better.
clones are cheaper, and you say they preform the same? would that not make them better? they dont, but you can dream.
>More implications. And the best part is that in CQB field whoever owns a mk23 clone can compete easily because there's not enough room to justify buying a expensive gat that is well-known for its effevtive range and accuracy. Hell even the suppression is kind of pointless.
>$100
>expensive

>Not if you go around with a 600lumen weaponlight. In two posts you just proved all my points. Good job.
not really, because what does that light do for you when the lights are on? absolutely nothing.

>>1967513
>Get fucked kid. As expected you are now grasping and asking for
>more alienating requests that I stated numerous times I wouldn't fill.
whatever you say, bub. :^)

>>1967496
This is bait, but in case it isn't... orange tip is only required by retailers to be sold.

>>1967514
>what does a 600lumen light do when the lights are on?
Why do you start or get involved in an argument about weaponlights when you clearly don't know half of what you are talking about?
Oh yeah, to adamantly justify wasting money on useless shit like a LAM unit.
And LMAO if you think your MK23 is somehow going to outperform one of its clones on a CQB field of all things.
In fact the MK23 is in general a bad CQB replica but whatever floats your boat.

>>1967517
>no retort
Can't say I'm surprised

>>1967524
>Why do you start or get involved in an argument about weaponlights when you clearly don't know half of what you are talking about?
>Oh yeah, to adamantly justify wasting money on useless shit like a LAM unit.
>And LMAO if you think your MK23 is somehow going to outperform one of its clones on a CQB field of all things.
>In fact the MK23 is in general a bad CQB replica but whatever floats your boat
you're right. it just stands out as a beacon, but what would i know. i dont see how it's shitty, seeing as how its got better efficiency, and thats really all the matters. unless you're a trigger pull snob. even then, suck it up.

>Can't say I'm surprised
i cant make you do anything. i can just explain why you made the inferior choice.

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>>1967394
KA FAL Tactical Carbine

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>>1967394
Older picture. Nothing really new other than the blue and white paracord on the stock. Have to repair my MP5 though.

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>>1967538
TM MAC-10 with a bunch of bullshit on it, I usually run it without the tracer unit attached to the silencer.

>>1967536
>efficiency
Holy shit man you only keep proving how clueless you are with every post.
>it just stands out as a beacon
Petty attempt at making this swimg your way. Yeah it makes you stand like a beacon and blinds anyone who looks at it if the thing is powerful enough. There's a reason why some fields ban the use of it.
>can just explain why you made the inferior choice
Failed miserably Considering you've made the wrong choices yourself.

But hey buddy keep believing you did good. Nothing like a good dose of self-convincement

>>1967555
>Holy shit man you only keep proving how clueless you are with every post
lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rotEoWAWkPk

>Petty attempt at making this swimg your way. Yeah it makes you stand like a beacon and blinds anyone who looks at it if the thing is powerful enough. There's a reason why some fields ban the use of it.
>thinking it blinds people when lights are on
>thinking in low light it wont blind you if you're in really tight areas
>thinking it still wont act as a beacon

>Failed miserably Considering you've made the wrong choices yourself.
says the guy with his sub par garbage.

whatever helps you sleep at night bruh.

>>1967545
Chello cousin

So I have an SMP inside an older S System, worth trading for an AA12 with 4 mags?

>>1967558
>look at this video showing what everyone knows already
Wow you sure proved me wrong. you just said in your previous post that 'efficiency is all that matters' and that's what proves why you are clueless, not the efficiency of the gun.
And for the record the great efficiency is not so great when you take into consideration the mk23 mags are the biggest pistol mags on the market.

>actually denying that powerful lights can blind you even with the lights on
You are going full pathetic now woth all this denial.

>says the guy with his sub par garbage.
says the guy that paid way too much for a generally bad replica for CQB

Can yaste the regret from here.

The >TM clones are better than TM is by far the worst /asg/ meme

>>1967563
The TM AA-12 is a creaky piece of shit. TM makes some solid guns nowadays, but they somehow regressed back to their early 2000s toy level of build quality for the AA-12.

>>1967732
It's not as creaky as their MP5 or G3, and that's literally just the plastic shell that creaks on the AA-12. The metal frame that holds it all together is solid, but the creaks are just the unfortunate result of the plastic they use being molded over a large surface area. Check out the plastic on the recoil shocks you have the same problem, just not as uniform and as over a range as the AA-12.

Honestly, I'm just waiting for someone to make a replacement plastic shell for it out of nylon fiber or something. Hopefully with some railspace for lights and grips. That'll be worth it.

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>>1967261

I bought a TM pistol a month ago and dropped the magazine within an half hour. It broke.

> Open the box
> Take the pistol and mag out
> 'Neat.'
> Put in the magazine
> It didn't lock
> It falls on the stone floor
> The bottom plastic part shatters

Bought 3 magazines and 1 extended magazine the same day. Great pistol.

>>1967547

Where did you get the stock and grip?

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>>1967772

>Go the an airsoft store 100km from my house
>Want to get a primary aeg
>Sellers keeps boasting about the Ares Amoeba
>360 euros
>Don't want it
>Pushes me to get it because it's the best on the market
>Don't want it
>Puts it in my hands
>I drop it
>It didn't break
>Tells me that this is Ares quality
>Still didn't want it

>ITT nobody wants the ARES Amoeba

>>1967794

>ITT no one wants the WE pistols

>>1967796

>Looking around for WW2 pistols
>Search the Luger p08
>See a review
>The guy smashes it with a hammer

Fucking hell.

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>>1967394
Here's a small part of my collection

>>1967798
heh

that channel is dead now

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>>1967823
>anime patches

>>1967774
I know atleast he has a MFT Battlelink minimalist stock.

>>1967732
>.t person who has never even seen one in person

>>1967823
aa

>>1967774
I bought the MFT Battlelink stock from a gun store, Evike has it in stock as well. They're milspec, which fits great on the G&P buffer tube I have attached to the M10-M4 stock adapter.

The grip is a MFT REACT short vertical grip which I bought from Evike.

>>1968121
The stock is it in milspec or civilian? What's the difference between a milspec buffer and civilian one? Also what diameter are airsoft buffer tubes?

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>>1968125
The stock is milspec as well, and I think Evike sells the mispec version as well (BMSMIL on the side of the stock vs just BMS for commercial vers).

Commercial tubes are slimmer, pic related. Airsoft buffer tubes diameter varies by manufacture.

>>1968197
Also some milspec tubes have the slanted back, despite the pic I uploaded.

>>1968197
Whoops I meant milspec tubes are slimmer, but they have threads that extend outside the diameter of the tube..

>>1967823
Huh, this collection actually interests me. What company made your AMD? How do you like your GAT?

And
>Cyma tri shot

Mah nigga.

>>1967447
>discord
It sounds so good. Is it a heaven, compares with here?

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>>1967095
aws ocpc
first spear stt
i like my stt

>>1967409
plz

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>>1967095
First Spear AAC, if you got the dosh. Best there is. Crye's JPC is also available in Ranger Green, but is pretty generic. Then there's also Blue Force Gear's Plateminus, lightest PC on the market.

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babys first airshit came in today.
cyma 040

>>1969123
You did well Anon

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>>1969128
btw, I am a national guardsmen. since its the thread theme and all. thank for me for my cervix plz

>>1969123
Pretty good pickup.

Served me well, survived an MSW.

>>1969141
F

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>>1969142
exactaly what i got for. im part of the k group.

dont know shit about airsoft though

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>>1969146
You basically got the NPAP of airsoft AKs.

It's fine, it'll survive getting it's ass beat in a 48 hour OP and is compatible with most aftermarket stuff.

If you wanna DOSH it up, I'd say take a gander at LCTs or E&Ls, I recently got myself a AK103 E&L Gen 2 and it's pure sex. The factory that used to do stampings for Norinco does the external work.

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>>1969146
Also as a side note, much love, you guys were super cool, thanks for chilling with us after the event.

I'd slay NATO with you any day.

>>1967496
That's wrong though........

>>1969146
Now just get rid of that orange flashider

>>1969151
my k bros told me lct internals are kinda weak sauce

>>1969159
we'll be militia at grozny 2.0, we're trying to pull as much of k in as we can. 12 confirmed 8 maybes

Do I have to worry about lipo batteries catching on fire still if I'm only using semi since I use a dmr.

>>1969174
You don't have to worry about Lipos catching fire if they're not exposed to shock or piercing.

>>1969170
I might be joining you.

Militia is partyzone, get rowdy as fuck

>>1969170
Also, remember to rep Stray Dogs.

If you're Militia, worked at looking like Militia and aren't garbage then you're a Stray Dog and STRAY DOGS ARE WOKE AS FUCK

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>>1969197
ukranie was our go to for uniforms and gear.

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>>1969201

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>>1969216
dogspeed. I hope to see you boys on the battlefield again, if not operate with you.

If a gun recommends using a 7.4 lipo but if I use a 9.6v would it still work? I don't give a shit about full auto since I'm using it for a dmr.

>>1969223
same question, but its the cyma ak i just bought recomends 9.6 lipo and mines 11.1

>>1969222
i myself am fairly set on gorka with baselayers because january, but for lbe im clueless. my first spear cool guy pc would be farb as fuck

>>1969105
n-no there's just no point yeah no point

>>1969141

Semper Fi.

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https://youtu.be/G9l9cFkEElE


rip

>>1969241
Good riddance
Honestly its a shame when the better reviews on products are done by online retailers trying to peddle the guns onto you like Redwolf.

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>>1969230
Yeah don't go wit hthat.

As far as LBE:

Signum vest are rad and seem to be not popular in the military and just civvie enough to pass. These includ: Legat, Parol and Signum have tons of Molle space and are compatible with either a small back panel or hydration panel (I use my hydro panel for my poncho).

Similarly, Tarzan vests are all good, as well as non-Oxford, more modern SSO smershes.

If you prowl Ebay it's easy to find Serbian or Ukranian LBE, but in the stuff I mentioned above is easily available on ebay or Grey Shop.

Pic related, me in my Legat with black Bdus, a SPIE harness and a Zsh-1 with no visor.

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>>1969256
Wow I am lit.

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>>1969256
nice look. my back up plan is a chicom type 81 in my closet

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Why is it so hard for people to not look like complete utter faggots in kit?

>>1969444
fuck off

>>1969420
because airsoft is inherently autistic

Does g&p produce good products ?

>>1969420
Because you're holding a phone in a bathroom. Now if someone got a photo of you while playing, or a photo of you while resting without you knowing, you can get some good shots

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>>1969444
That actually reminds me. I'm thinking about doing something new with my friends. We want to create a survival airsoft gamemode among ourselves. The idea is we are in our respective kit that holds everything we need to survive for a day or two. After about two or three hours after beginning, the game begins. You hunt eachother throughout the environment. ambushing, tracking, and surviving along the way. After about a day we would converse, gather, eat, and rest. I'm not very good at describing stuff, but I think it could work

>>1969487
Generally yes

>>1969490
it's the kit and pose in general

there's no way that retarded shit is gonna look good in any picture

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Do you guys go into the field and buy your pass with your BDUs on, or do you put your " airsoft " clothes on in the staging area?

I'm not talking about gear, I already know you keep that shit locked up at all times unless you're actually on the field, but just like the clothing.

>>1969549
>he calls them bdus.

>>1969549
I walk in with my pants and boots on.

>>1969549
Pants and boots, mostly because I stop somewhere beforehand and walking around in full kit looks silly if you're not a soldier

>>1969549
If I'm going in full kit then I generally walk on the field with my BDU pants and boots already on, and then change into full kit there. If I'm going to eat with friends right afterwards though, I generally put on my regular shirt and go to the restroom to put on a pair of jeans that I throw into my kitbag. Don't want to get any double salutes for my service while getting Wendys.

Recently though my friends and I kinda stopped caring about kits and shit, so we just show up in jeans and sweatshirts with our rigs because we've come to find it somewhat pointless to get into full kit for pickup games.

>>1966778
This is a troll right?

Here is a conclusive list of things you can do to your glock that will make it look better than stock:

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>>1969918
>trijicon night sights
>skate tap, talon grips, or stipling
>no finger grooves
>front slide serrations
>throw away and replace with p30
:^

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This thing is pretty nice.

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>>1970018
Also, got a Hush Puppy.

>>1970021
smith and wesson semiautos get me rock fucking hard. a 1006 (10mm) is a dream gun.

sauce on this airshit model 39?

>>1970027
http://www.evike.com/products/38333/

Evike incorrectly labels it as an M9

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>>1970032
>$10 spring pistol
this is like the part of the porno where she pulls off her panties and she doesnt have a dick

>>1970059
It's fine for a cosplay prop.

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Really liking this ak. Still waiting for midcaps.

>>1966778
It's just like a copy and paste from any other team, so why should I join yours but not others?

>>1970059
>he doesn't own a springer for that MGS dart-gun gameplay
Lmao

>>1970120
Its gotta be a Mk 2 or else its stupid

>>1970128
There are no springer MK2 though.
And MGS2 and MGS3 didn't have MK2 models for dart guns anyways (If I'm not mistaken).

>>1970091

>Magpul AK

Fugg sexy

>>1970059
>he couldn't tell from the pictures that it was a springer

it's your fault

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>this isn't in my hand right now as i post

https://youtu.be/2SkdzzrwJwo

What is the difference between a regular g&p m4 and Their skull frog m4 ?

>>1970522
Nothing other than the HOORUH RANGER FROG on the receiver.

>>1970525
Really so they charge you like 10 bucks more just for the frog ?

Ok so local guy is selling an E&L gen2 with 7 midcaps, battery, scope mount, and sling for $425. Gave timestamped photos, the thing is brand new, and he is willing to do paypal. Am I retarted for not already buying this?

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Kalash (Dboys) Ak74 + shitty ACM Cobra Sight for 100€. yes/no?

>>1970567
That's actually not that bad. Go for it.

>>1970563
You're not retarded, but if you want a Gen 2 E&L you should buy it because that's a killer deal considering the cheapest you can get hem online is like 330 before shipping and that's without anything else.

>>1970567
Dboys isn't the best anymore when it comes to poorfag AKs, but that's not a bad price at all.

>>1970563
Also not a bad price. Which model AK is it?

>>1970585
104 with the rails. Looking online its around $350-$360

>>1970590
Doitdoitdoitdoitdoit

>>1970559
it's $10 because if it's autistic enough it will become a meme on /asg/ which means extra attention

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>>1970619
I'm gonna buy it now just for that.

>>1970603
Well looks like i'm going as a ruski to OP Stonebreaker next year.

>>1970621
And maybe if you buy it fast enoungh along with giving the drawfag enough attention, he might just put you in!

Wow, isn't /asg/ great?

Kwa m93r or g18c ?

>>1970695
>falling for the KWA meme

>>1970695
If you go with the g18c I'd recommend upgrading the internals right away so it doesn't break itself on full auto.

>>1970696
Well who do I turn to for a good gbb pistol?

>WE?

>>1970746
disregard him, just get the KWA.

everything is a fucking meme here and people will fight to the death over calling a gun they have never owned or even seen in person shitm

>>1970753
KWA M93r I mean

>>1970753
>KWA shill

WhatAreYouBuyen is fuckin dead m8shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9l9cFkEElE

>>1970763
>>1969241
>>1969251

you're a bit late

>>1970762
>im a shill if I find unjust hating stupid

DIS

Does anyone have experiences with the G&G RK74?

Concerning reliability, easiness of changing springs and so forth.

>>1969505
Any thoughts?

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>>1970762
desu i've had only one KWA pistol and it wasn't a lemon like most said

though it was the 93r and I lost it, kek

Is KWA just KSC rebranded? Because I feel like picking up the m93r again

>>1970835
KWA is KSC, but made in Taiwan for the export market.

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Hey, M81 here. Took forever, but I got some more photos from the field. Lets see who's out and about.

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>>1970897

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>>1970904

>>1970897
cool, finally some pics instead of text

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>>1970968
Aye, I understand. I fill say I made quite an impression at the field this time around. Next comment I do will have the story with it

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Does anyone know where I can pick up some kind of black or grey helmet cover for those OPS CORE fast helmets?

All i can find are Kryptec Typhoon and Multicam Black, but no pure colors.

Help?

Also, anyone here been to Stronghold Ops?

What do you think of it?

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>>1970995
Alright, so I roll up to the field just as our ref is giving the safety brief, and he looks to me knowing what that entails.
>begin unpacking, getting ready for the day
>take out my cot and everything
>Ref says "What are you, planning on camping here?"
>"Well, I do usually stay around after everyone leaves."
>"What do you do when everyone leaves? On second thought, I don't think I want to know."
>Must come back with reply
>I had just put down my Windsor 80's-90's model TV radio
>"You know what I do when everyone leaves?
>...
>I listen to the radio."
>Nirvana-In Bloom.MP3
>I had somehow timed it at the exact moment the song started
>The crowd goes wild
>This experienced ref, now thoroughly impressed, comes up to me "You know what, I like you now."
Keep in mind I was wearing my regular M81 kit with everything around me being 80's/90's era garb, right down to the cot I was sitting on and rifle, so having nirvana come on was next level luck. Gave everyone fruity candy canes I bought at a dollar store while buying a pack of gum too, that made people happy.

Sorry for the terrible greentext, I'm still inexperienced with it.
Pic related, this thing is pretty awesome

>>1971671
This isn't a cringe thread Anon.

>>1966715
Friend tried to sell me his skull mask for 20 bucks under the guise that "it looked cool".

Nigga, do I look 14 to you?

>>1966899
LOVE. IS. TAKING LIFT OFF

>>1967776
Why do airsoft shops always have to shill so hard? JUST LET ME MAKE MY OWN SOUND DECISIONS AND STOP TRYING TO SOCIALIZE WITH ME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

>>1966899
WUZ

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Its getting cold /asg/ do you have a specific loadout when playing in the snow/cold?

>>1970065
Used duels of these for my Hitman Cos

>>1973129
>forcing memes

>>1971332
Stronghold is okay, really depends on who shows up to play.

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>>1972814
Would you rather I break space-time?

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>>1972973
Yep, using it next week

im the guy who bought that cyma 040c first outing, gearbox lock up.

FUCK.

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https://youtu.be/VthPo532sm8

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Guys, how shit is the Dboys rear wired HK416 ?
Are there any affordable guns in that price range that come with a freefloat handguard installed and a 14.5 inch barrel or 10.5 inch barrel ?
And are there any particular magazines I would need to use with this ?

>>1967823
>memelencer
>meme AKM
>orange muzzles
>cheap chinkshit
>anime patches

What a faggot.

>>1972973
Yeah, its called staying at home because cunts are too afraid of their gear getting wet and guns rusting because apparently aftercare for airsoft is not needed.

>>1973504
save up a bit more and buy a Specna arms E&C gat instead if it does not have to be a 416 copy.

>>1973540
I kind of just want something different I guess would be my reasoning.
Was also considering the Dboys SCAR-L

>>1973540
>>1973543
Matter of fact, the more I look at images, the more I want an HK416 or mod my Cyma MP5.