/asg/ - Airsoft General

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Ichiroku-chan.

>>1323180
Shit, thought I fixed that. Whatever, the meme is intact.

getting my first gas blow back pistol, do I need silicone grease and oil or just silicone oil

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>this op

>>1323192
Just oil. I use 20 weight RC Car silicon shock oil for my pistol. That and 10 weight are pretty ideal for airsoft use.

>>1323132
Well, my M14 lives next to my bed, does that count?

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>hanging out at friends dorm
>he's a tactics and military strategy major
>tells me he's getting an airsoft gun soon
>ask him which one
>he tells me its a kwa
>mfw I have to pretend to be happy for him

>>1323240
Friends don't let friends buy KWA bro

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>>1323240
>kwa
I want one!
one of these

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>>1323240
Why did you do that, anon? Why didn't you ask if he had ordered it already? If he hadn't, you could have set him straight!

>>1323240
>>1323327
When did KWAs start becoming bad? I remember them being the most popular GBBs years ago.

>>1323429
Since 2008, cause we got better options for the price now.

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>>1323439
Don't tell me you mean WE.

Anybody have an extra SCAR rubber butt stock pad laying around or otherwise know where to buy one? Mine is gone and I don't feel like taping my battery to the stock.

>>1323442
WE with RA-Tech tuning is the only thing to go in GBB

Any links to help me learn how to take apart my gun and maintain it? I have a WE GBB G17 and a CM310C

>>1323583
Yes. Use Jewtube for this.

>>1323583
For your WE, just field strip the thing, clean it out, and lube up any ares where two pieces move in contact with each other.
GBB maintenance is stupidly simple.

>>1323597
What about the ak?

Hey guys are PKM slings the same as AK slings? I've bought a PKM sling and I'm trying to put it on the same way as I'd put on an AK sling but can't for the life of my get the hook through the buckle.

If that made any sense to you please help me out.

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M14's reporting in

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The highest level one I can grab...

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>>1323627
Pics?

>>1323662
I'll post them tomorrow, gonna hit the hay.

good night /asg/

>>1323627
They aren't the same hook. The PKM one is bigger. One solution though would be to slip a small amount of para cord through the front sling loop to make a bigger sling loop and to attach the hook to that.

>>1323614
plenty of guides exist.

>>1323442
Kek, is he getting the lm4? Cause if he is then hell yeah I'll say WE, but most likely the GHK M4 is even better or if you wanna go TM then their new M4 is great.

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what do you guys think of my thompson

>>1323871
Kill yourself/10

>>1323871
It's high level.

Quick question, gents.

Currently, on a fully charged 7.4, my gun shoots about 10-11 rounds a second. What gear ratio should I install that would jump that up to around 15-20 bbs a second with the same battery? Or would that be something for the motor?

Gun is currently sitting at around 380-390 fps with 0.20.

>>1323132
My KA FAL full-stock shorty

>>1323914
You'll want to learn to shim the gears properly. Then buy a ZCI balanced motor.

>>1323871
I hope the party van catches you for watching that video of the girl being fucked by a whole football team.

Anyone have experience with Zenimei Zenitco parts? The Asura B13 is $75, the Zenimei is $56. Is there really that much of a difference between the two brands?

>>1323871
Delete yourself and post a video to back it up

>>1324495
Zenimei is literally Asura parts rebranded iirc. Usually they're a bit more expensive, but it seems that the Zenimei might be on sale.

>>1323871
vomitchan.png.jpg.exe.mp4

>>1323914
I've heard that 12:1 ratio gears work pretty well and its what im planning to put in my AK build. SHS makes pretty good gears from what i've heard. Also if your motor has standard ferromagnets then any motor with neodymium magnets would be better.

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>>1323669
Yes exactly, the PKM hook is bigger, but how do they attach the sling to the stock then? It's currently impossible for me to do that as I can't get the hook through the buckle.

>>1325984
String/paracord

>>1323914
Get a high torque motor. They get up to full speed faster than the normal motors or "high speed" motors. If it's an lmg, I don't get why you'd want a super high rof. 600-650 rounds a min is perfect.

Calling all Ontariofags
Was thinking about how a STALKER themed airsoft event would be fun. There was a place that was going to do one last year but it was canceled.1
>4 teams, free stalkers, freedom, duty and monolith
>monolith is hostile to everyone and everyone is hostile to monolith, duty is hostile to freedom and freedom is hostile to duty
>free stalkers aren't so much of a team as they are independants, they can assist freedom or duty as mercenaries or join up with other free stalkers
>monolith's base/respawn holds the wish granter, which they must defend at all costs
>duty, freedom and free stalkers all share the same respawn, this area is a ceasefire zone. Here is where missions are assigned and where duty and freedom's leaders are often found.
>factions can make camps to use as forward respawns, but these are limited and can be captured by enemies
>missions can be completed to give team rewards such as the ability to make more camps, more ammunition (which is limited) ect. Monolith can take steal the mission objective to prevent the other factions from completing them.
>in the end the 3 other factions must fight each other and monolith to be the first to get to the wish granter, by using all the resources they gained from completing missions.
>the first team to capture the wish granter from monolith and then defend it from the other attacking teams for X amount of time wins. If monolith holds the wish granter for X amount of time they win.

Not sure how well this would work, and still in the process of how it would fit together but its interesting to me. If anyone has and ideas it'd be appreciated.

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>>1326152
I've been in a few Stalker events myself, though I'm not that sure it would be fitting to call them airsoft - they worked more like LARPs, at least if you didn't go all speedsoft out there. Monolith wasn't a full fledged faction in those events, but they instead were NPCs that occasionally made appearances in the event to spice it up. Same with mutants.

I would personally say that the correct way to do it would be go with an event less focusing on constant gunfighting. At least if you ask me, what makes Stalker vidyas good is the atmosphere of desolation and emptiness, exploration and wandering, not playing it like Call of Duty: Anomalous Warfare and killing everything throughout the Zone, and the same applied fairly well to the events I were in.

There were quite a lot of players in each game, who didn't fire a single shot through the event, so I suppose I'm not the only one with those sentiments.

>>1326177
Where were the events held?
Also as for the game, mostly everything would revolve around the missions given by faction leaders or the barkeep, but the missions would be different for each person, so that 2 hostile groups wouldn't run into each other all the time. Ideally the field would have to be pretty big for this to work since it being small would result in people always running into each other. Firefights would be more on the occasional side because of this, as well as the players being encouraged to avoid gunfights when possible. If you're in duty on a mission to find X its much easier to go around them and ignore each other than to fight them, since it doesn't benefit you to kill them for no reason.

short ak midcaps when?

>>1326336
I think I read something about LCT looking to make some for the AMD 65.

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>>1326152
Fuck off delta stone your games are shit.

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>>1323132
I've fallen asleep with my SVD before and I just got her a PSO-1 replica too. Really compliments the gun. No hot glue though that would be lewd.

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>>1326500
Close up of the scope

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>>1326510
And the optics illumination

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T.T

Spent 2 hours teching and not only did I not fix anything, I probably made new problems. Tried to fix a compression issue and now the gun doesn't feed (and may still have compression issues)

>>1326500
>>1326510
>>1326512
And before anyone mentions it I realized after the photos that I didn't have my scope mounted properly forward and I have rectified that.

>>1326500
RS?

>>1326177
All I can remember from last Rev is being an absolute bastard and shooting anyone who couldn't get their gun up before I got within around five yards. Ended up leaving with around 35 caps, where the average was around 3.

>>1326671
The finish looks too flat so I'd say it's CYMA.

>>1326671
Nah just a Cyma

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>>1323240
>hanging out at friends house
>he's an Anime major
>tells me he's getting a media setup soon
>ask him which one
>he tells me it's Kissanime
>mfw i have to pretend to be happy for him

>>1323442
There are a few WE GBB gun lines that are top quality.

>>1326978
There newer production stuff is great. I'll love my makarov from them.

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>>1326671
Someone called me?

So I just got one of those new metal bodied Cyma tri shots. I immediately took it to my local cqb field for my weekly team practice and I must say I am impressed. I was expecting a metal feeling DE M3 and instead I got something that shoots surprisingly well. I never felt at a loss for range like I usually do running my old Double Eagle and it keeps a pretty tight pattern.

All in all I approve. I was expecting a sturdy backup/loaner/fuckaround gun and what I got was something very skirmishable. I ended up leaving my semi-fancy AEG in the case because I was having way too much fun with the tri shot.

Not having any sights whatsoever kind of sucks. It points real well and it seemed to be firing clusters of face-seeking bbs regardless of my sight picture, but some modification is in order at least to make me feel more confident at range.

>>1327329
post pics?

Also, your thoughts on gas vs spring shotguns?

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So fellow /asp/ies Ive got a really weird problem with my GHK AK. Right now its actually warmer outside than in my room but I just got back from a game and the rifle started shitting itself all the time. When firing full auto it started to spit out gas in large clouds. So now that Im at home I tested it again and to my surprise its working perfectly. I even tried different BBs just to be sure but that doesnt seem to affect it. What gives?

>>1327853
Make sure you're using the same mag(s) as when it was shitting out. It sounds like your valve is sticking. If it's not take your nozzle out and check it thoroughly as it's probably got a crack in it.

>>1327868
Thing is every mag did this and at home it doesnt anymore. I honestly dont understand.

>>1327871
Probably a crack on your nozzle then. Constant use may have caused it to open up and now it may have moved back into place. This happened to a friend of mine. Also, what gas were you using? What was your RoF? (I mean were you dumping 10 mags through it)

>>1327875
But why is there a difference between firing at home and in the field when the temperatures the same?

>>1327882
Not sure. Witchcraft?

>>1327889
Well shit. Ill check it out then. Thanks.

>>1325984
You need to pry the front hook open and remove it. then put it on the stock and reapplyu the hook.

>>1327645
I personally hate gas everything, but that's just me. I'm also a lazy fuck who doesn't like mantaining his airshit and buying new replacement parts all the time. Not saying TM isn't space magic, but I'm just not a gas guy. I love tri shots not just because they are shotguns, but because they are simple, reliable, and generally always work. You can also play to the advantages, such as snapping quick bursts around a corner.

I like to run my Cyma 870 with an Echo1 GAT slung over my shoulder. Whenever I need some suppressing power or my shotgun runs dry I'll grab my GAT. Add a couple thunder bees in the mix and I'm not a bad door kicker. Real fun loadout, and it's always satisfying to take out some HPA running speedsofter with a spring shotgun.

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>>1327924
Yep, that did it. Thanks anon.

Here, have a pic of the finished product.

Alright /asg/, rate my custom AK setup
>2nd gen E&L AK105
>Lonex red piston, POM piston head, cylinder, cylinder head and POM airnozzle
>Lonex metal hopup unit, prometheus purple bucking, 6.03mm prometheus inner barrel
>R-hopped
>SHS 12:1 gearset, ASG 30000rpm motor and a Lonex gearbox shell with 8mm bearings
Gun shoots at about 390fps with a rate of fire of 25rps using a 11.1v 25c lipo
Cost me about 800 canacuckbucks

>>1328269
Also has a GATE warfet in it

>>1324112
The what?

>>1326978
>>1327122
What older stuff of theirs would you advise against getting?

>>1327853
L U B E
U
B
E

>>1328435
M14, AK, L85, M4, M9, 1911/Hi-Capa, Luger, and any of their Glocks (especially the G18).

>>1328431
Newfag alert.

>>1328451
Does the M4 regard all their AR-15 types or just the M4 specifically?

>>1328452
I never hung out on /b/ really, what's the gist of it?

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>>1328481
Their ARs in general. They need RA Tech internals almost right out of the box.

>We live in a generation where people don't know what it means to get V&

>>1328269
>ASG 30K Motor
>12:1
>11,1v LiPo
>25RPS
That doesn't sound right. Their 18K Motor should get about 25RPS with that setup. You should be shooting closer to 30 even with 7,4v LiPo.

>>1328481
It's not a /b/ thing. It's a 4chan thing.

>>1328492
I know what v&ing is, I'm just not familiar with the video you're talking about.

>>1328520
Maybe you ought to google it.

>>1328522
N-no, I don't want to be v&

>>1328527
DO IT FAGGOT

I have next to no idea about HPA or tweaking replicas so I'll ask here.
I'm planning on building a DMR and if I do I want to install a HPA system because everyone seems to agree that is the best route. Mancraft seems like a good choice because it's cheap, fully mechanical and the lack of full auto doesn't bother me at all if I'm using it for DRM purposes.

Now the thing is I checked the website and seems like the Mancraft installation removes whatever gearbox and installs the HPA system in its place. Does that mean that I can focus on getting a rifle for its aesthetic value since the internal gearbox is irrelevant?

>>1328611
Pretty much.

>>1328620
That's simply great.
That applies to all HPA systems as well, not just Mancraft?

Some time ago, I remember hearing/reading that there's some math involved in determining what spring strength you need for the fps you're looking to get with your barrel length. What is it?

tl;dr: how can i figure out what spring i need without disassembling my gearbox a billion times?

>>1328881
in hindsight, i guess the tl;dr wasn't necessary.

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>>1328881
M110 spring shoots 0,2g bbs at 110m/s
M120 spring shoots 0,2g bbs at 120m/s
M130 spring shoots 0,2g bbs at 130m/s
tl;dr, it's very straightforward.

>>1328891
thanks. but wouldn't barrel length be a factor as well?

>>1328916
inner barrel, not cylinder

>>1328916
plus, i'm amerifag. metrics don't register well

>>1328916
cylinder-barrel ratio is what you are referring to, I think

>>1328916
The energy output will decrease if you shoot too light bbs with a too short barrel for the cylinder.

>>1328891
My gun shoots 380-390 with .2 with m110 spring.

>>1328515
Just a rough estimate since I haven't got a chance to run it through a rps chrono, I just took a estimate based off how the rate of fire sounded

>>1329062
My M170 spring shoots about as hot as M190 should. What's your point?

Just scored a full hpa setup for 400. Any tips on tuneups or maintenance I should do since its a used gun?

>>1329345
What HPA system?

Wolverine SMP system

>>1329364
May need a quick inspection but if its still working it should work for at least a couple years more without failure.

>>1329383
That's the kind of answer I like to hear hahaha

>>1323132
Can I snuggle with the girl in OP's pic instead?

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>>1329755
Sorry, Karila's already got her eye on dem Honoka-Senpai titties

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>>1329785
But Honoka-Senpai is not for sexual.

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>>1329791
Try telling that to literally everyone.

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>>1329796
Well Rento-Chan is for sexual, so she just needs to sate her desires.

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>>1329803
>Rento-Chan is for sexual
I can believe that.

>>1329804
>>1329803
>>1329796
>>1329791
>>1329785
What the hell is going on here

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Painting my VSR clone. Please rate. Not sure if or how I should do the upper.

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>>1329808
Sabage Sexualizing.

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>>1329804
In fact, I'm willing to go so far as to say all the C3 girls are for sexual except for Sonora and Honoka.

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>>1329823
Forget C3 Bu. Superior Sabage mango for sexualizing inbound.

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>>1329839
>Sabagebu
>a Sabage mango
>Superior for sexualizing in either case
Now I know you're just trying to get me to post this.
You're just trying to get me to post this, aren't you

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>>1329846
I know how to press your buttons, bae~

What's the general consensus on Echo1 M14 SOCOM's? Got a friend who's looking to get rid of his for cheap and I've been debating picking up an airsoft gun for the lulz

>>1329860
If it's just for lulz, anything will do at the right price

>>1329865
well i've tossed around the idea of trying to get into matches as well. Are the Echo1 guns okay or just trash?

if its trash and I really wanted a gun I'd probably just get a CYMA AK

>>1329869
The painted VSR a few posts up is mine. It's an echo1. It was a boneyard item, but the internals seemed to be not of superb quality (which might be why it was in the boneyard). I replaced them with PDI and action army stuff.

YMMV

>>1329877
word. Hadn't seen much in terms of a legitimate usage review on the gun so I wasn't sure how crap it was

I'll have to see once I get some time to check out the gun

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what

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>Hanging out at friend's dorm
>He's a VN Major
>tells me he's getting a new touhou Character
>ask him which one
>he tells me momiji
awoo~

>>1330084
>I fucked up /asg/

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look what I made

>>1330098
Suppositories?

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>>1330220
Nope, plastic bullets.

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>work at a local paintball/airsoft field as a ref
>one ref takes a day off to play
>he brings out this fucking thing

>>1330266
wny?

>>1330426
And?

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>>1330433
Why not?
Also, the barrel is only off by 0.002mm.

>>1330426
he takes out a whip? lel

>>1330538
Oh, that's a different guy, but he's pretty cool

>>1330627
Offer him 40 keys for it

But actually have a bunch of keys on a ring

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>>1330426
>assimov
Cancer
>Indiana Jones
pretty cool

>>1323871
It reminds me of the low-quality retexture skins that beginner modders would make for counter-strike source.

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>shoot one mag in bursts

>LiPo becomes too hot to handle

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Hey guys any good full metal rear-wired M4's in Europe that aren't ridiculously short for around 150 Euros ?

>>1330925
Oh and are there any slavs using M4's ? If so, what do they look like?

>>1330925
>good
>full metal
>150€

Take a guess

>>1330936
What about 175...

>>1330938
Try no less than 200€ if you want a serviceable thing. The metal quality you get with 150 is not worth it. it starts to strip the first time you need to open it.

Though I found this one http://www.taiwangun.com/en/electric/pj16a3-p-j?from=listing&campaign-id=20

Only thing A&K I have is a m249 that serves as decoration though so I cant vouch for it.

>>1330947
I've had A&K before and they were good for me but I want a shorter barrel and collapsible stock.
So I think with the small upgrades I want to put in it, I'm gonna be going over budget very easily if I have to add in the new barrel assembly and stock.

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>>1330426
>Couldn't get a dlore even in real life

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Going to go play airsoft for the first time in like 8 years tomorrow. Tell me why I shouldn't pic related if it's fun.

>>1331313
If you're willing to go all out with a GHK, don't go half-assed on everything else. Get more than one spare mag and don't get that mesh mask, get some ANZI goggles with a small mesh lower. For bbs get high quality .28s, and for initial break-in, get some higher quality green gas like nuprol. Propane is a bit dirtier and you'll need to clean it more, which is fine, just don't do it when you're breaking in the thing.

>>1331313
You dont want .2 plus make sure its under the fps limit of your field.

GHK owner here, new mags are tough to load, youd be loading 30-40 rounds max.

.2 will be innacurate as fuck and those will get chopped by the gun. You dont want chopped bbs in your gun.

Personal opinion but 4-6 mags total is the sweet spot.

>>1331356
>>1331368

I only ever owned TM's, and we always used .2 or .23. Do guns made more recently require .28s for some reason? Why would .2 be inaccurate? Isn't that just a function of adjusting the hop-up? Why would it be 'chopped'?

>>1331371
Heavier BBs exhibit less air resistance thus usually go farther with more energy when properly hopped.

.20g BBs are less dense so the chances of them breaking are much higher.

>>1331371
It's a gas gun, they work on different principles, and GHK shoot pretty hot by themselves. You want the mass to take advantage of it. TMs shoot a whole lot softer and use room temperature compressed air. Heavier bbs will shoot more consistently on gas for that reason.

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r8 my glock

>>1331480
Flashlight/10

>>1331480
Pretty nasty desu

>>1331480
Shitty stippling/10

>>1331371
GHK shoot around 450ish fps. They usually come with high flow valves, which means if its cheapo bbs the nozzle will chop it trying to load the bb into the chamber.

Because of the fps, the hop up will over hop .20 and will make your gun innacurate as fuck. GHKs eat .28 and up.

>>1323240
>>he's a tactics and military strategy major
This is a thing? I've heard of military history majors, but tactics and strategy?

So /asg/, what do you prefer: DMRs or Battle Rifles?

DMRs being Semi auto guns that fire projectiles at Bolt Action or slightly lower than Bolt Action force, and Battle Rifles being rifles that fire projectiles at standard FPS limits, but are accurized to their highest possible extent and have full auto fire capacity.

>>1332179
Intermediate carbines, battle rifles are heavy and have low capacity.

>>1332179
>but are accurized to their highest possible extent and have full auto fire capacity
Isn't that what a DMR is? You need to stop playing so many video games, my man.

>>1332303
Definitely not. DMRs at all national events and all the fields I went to are semi auto only.

>>1332179
>but are accurized to their highest possible extent
Lots of battle rifles have an MOA of 3 to 4, even higher, an FAL or M14 would not be suitable as a DMR in standard models.

>and have full auto fire capacity.
Battle rifles do not have to be select fire.

>>1332179
>Battle Rifles being rifles that fire projectiles at standard FPS limits, but are accurized to their highest possible extent and have full auto fire capacity.
I don't think that definition is correct.

I use bolt action rifles because of easy of maintenance, and feedback. Got a bit bored of insert mag, take safety off, pull trigger. Needed a bit more interaction.

>>1329812
poorly poured concrete/10

>>1332179
A DMR is what a military uses as their force's long range service rifle that is often the intermediary with a rifleman and a sniper. They are designed to be more accurate than Assault Rifles or Battle Rifles. DMR's could be intermediary cartridges though. A battle rifle often describes a full cartridge rifle that uses 7.62 NATO.
tl;dr what the fuck are your definitions man

>>1330873
What's the c rating on your battery? Your motor might be pulling too many amps, so you could either get a battery with a higher c rating or larger capacity. Or both.

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Conquest 10 is tomorrow. Good bbwarz to everyone who's coming!

>>1332179
AUG in every field.

>>1332817
it writes 25-50c on the bat. motor is this http://www.evike.com/products/25608/

My bet is shitty shimming.

>>1332450
Perfect for California, then!

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>>1330934
Poland, Ukraine and a lot of Czech groups use them.

They literally just look like everyone else's M4s.

Pic related: 601st Czechs playing around in the sandbox.

>>1333264
Russian FSB and Special Forces use russian-made M4s, too

How do you faggots feel about the airsoft subreddit?

>>1333291
a lot of cancer desu

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>>1333291
>airsoft
>subreddit
>the top post is literally a bizon turned into a 74u
>actually expect anyone to say anything postive about that place

kek

pic related, its the post

>>1333296
i don't see what's wrong with it 2bh familiamy

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>>1333291
>hay guise here's my le new gun xD upvote pls!

>>1333297
What's the fucking point of buying a bizon when you're going to ruin it by turning it into a deformed 74u?

it's like buying a AR57 to turn it into a AR15

>>1333291
The actual airsoft subreddit is shit in my opinion its a lot of rehashed combat machines and ass paintjobs. Once in a while someone posts something cool but most of it is garbage. If you want to see cool looking guns I'd check the airsoftmarket which I've had some really good luck with. Scored some awesome guns there for 50% of market value. There's a couple cancerous "personas" that bounce between both subreddits but you can weed them out easily since all they do is post the same three guns over and over for way more than their worth and then whine that noones buying their rifles.

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>>1333297
>here, let's buy a special version of a gun, specifically because it has a different magazine system
>hmm, better change the magazine system out and make it standard !

I thought this was a thread about airsoft, why the fuck is there so much more anime than airsoft?


Even /k/ isn't this bad, and they have tripfags obsessed about undertale to the point of putting it on their guns.

>>1333329
he said the reasoning was that the helical midcaps were shit and the thing he made for the gun literally screws off

this is advanced autism

>>1333337
>why the fuck is there so much more anime than airsoft?
Because most /asg/ denizens are weeb fucks and everyone knows weeb faggots need to pollute everything with their anime, manga and nihongo culture shit.
Basically they are like the vegans of autism or the furries of animated cartoons.

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>>1333337
>>1333400
If you wanted images of smug anime girls, you should have just come out and said it.

so, i went out and played airsoft today for the first time in a few years. the field rental gear came with a mesh facemask. now, I've always heard warnings about mesh eye pro, but figured it would be alright once, and if I enjoyed myself, I could buy a real set of goggles for the next time. What are the odds right?

Anyway, first match, first skirmish, first firefight, first hit, bb impacts mask right in front of left eye, shatters, and i feel a tiny impact in my eye. Note that I'm wearing contacts and my eye had already been bothering me slightly so I couldn't tell if anything had actually happened or if it was just air.

Anyway, about an hour and a half later, I blink out this tiny piece of plastic.

Seriously, mesh, not even once. I'm hoping that's all that was in there. Eye currently feels 100% fine.

Regardless, I had a great time and am about to drop about $500 on a kit. Just need to put together what I want.

The field is semi-only, fps limited. any suggestions? I'm leaning towards gbb for this reason.

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>>1333407
forgot pic

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>>1333407
>I blink out this tiny piece of plastic.
Be glad that it wasn't worse than that and move on.

>there's people that willingly wear mesh eye pro and even defend its use

>>1333407
How low FPS? And how detailed of a kit are you looking for?

>>1333407
If you want gear and a gbb for $500, keep in mind that mags are gonna be expensive.

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>>1333337
They're all pictures from animes ABOUT airsoft, silly. It helps that airsoft was invented in Japan.

>>1333291
Better than this board. Sure there are annoying combat machine posts but the content is overall better, faggots can't ruin the place like they do here.

>>1333433
>>1333433
limit is 350 with a .25g bb. could somebody please tell me about hybrid electric/gas guns? I don't think these even existed the last time I was seriously into airsoft. What are the advantages?

I don't really care that much about the detail as I'm not that concerned about a mil-sim attitude at the moment. might do something lulzy like a somali militia setup or something.

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>>1333426
I played with a mesh mask for about 4 months in a row 5 years ago with no issue. Wire mesh won't break, but it'll still shatter bbs. Pic related, i tore the mask apart a while back, these were the goggles

>>1333291
it's a good source if you want pics of stock guns, no effort thrown together loadouts, and the same ten questions every day.

>>1333296
I was on the fence of buying a PP19 Bizon but the magazine system looks like a pain in the ass.

Every version (Cyma, silverback, LCT) has trouble with it...

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>>1333361
then you fix the fucking chamber don't change and ruin the entire speciality of the bizon that's fucking retarded


besides, he defended that he " likes " it the way it is

>>1333442
350 with .25 is pretty average.

Hybrid electric gas is called HPA, high pressured air. It's run using an external air tank that you carry on your back with a hose that connects to the gun, usually through the grip. HPA is top of the line stuff and isn't too cheap, but it's easy to use and maintain

>>1333449
who cares

>>1333407
GHK GBBs are good and like >>1333435 said, mags will be expensive

>>1333449
Its not the gun, its the completely shitty magazines.

>>1333452
I heard that GHK guns shoot hot though, do they not?

>>1333456
iirc you can get parts that reduce the power on them

>>1333452
>make dumb argument and call the other person autisic
>get put in place
>" who cares"

nigger are you high or something?

>>1333459
>>get put in place
Saying something is fucking retarded and whining that they like it isn't putting me in place, faggot

>>1333457
probably, but paying $50 or so to make a gun weaker feels like a real waste of money

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>>1333337
>thinking this board isn't already spammed and shitted up with this gay as wrestling bullshit.
>getting asshurt over anime

>>1333462
You pay that money so that you have a very high quality, reliable gun that you can actually play with.

>find a place that sells galil mags
>€37,90 for an AEG midcap

>>1333457
as a follow up to this, I'm having a real ass of a time finding out what the actual chrono of a GHK AK is with propane and .25g bbs. is there some database for this kind of thing?

>>1328684
Not the previous guy, but for the most part yeah. Polarstar, Wolverine, and Mancraft all have kits that drop into V2/V3 gearboxes. Only HPA replacement system I know that varies from that is Daytona Gun.

Does anyone here know how they carried Thompson Drum magazines in WW2? Did they just have huge round pouches that attach to the regular belt or something?

>>1333559
did they use drum magazines in ww2 on thompsons?

>>1333569
I'd like to believe so.
At least the British used them for sure, in the early parts.

>>1333572
>>1333569
Not M1s and the M1A1s. The 1928A1s had drum mags, but the British users quickly moved the box mags due to ease of use and weight.

>>1331313
>one spare mag with a GBB
4 spares minimum. They don't hold much remember.
>mesh mask
no. Goggles or glasses, make sure to buy anti fog just incase.
>.20
.25 or higher only anon.

>>1333569
M1928's take drum mags, the M1 and M1A1's (the ones which were issued to the US during WW2) were not capable of taking drum mags.

Any kiltniggers play at Section 8 here?

Pls tell me what scout the doggu is like

>>1333609
>.25 or higher only anon.
I use .23 just fine. What's the explanation behind the whole "go .25+ or go home" ?

>>1333632
I play there. Won't be going tomorrow but i've never missed a game day before that.

He's a nice guy, i've only spoken to him a few times though. He tends to get mobbed a bit by people that recognise him off youtube. I feel a bit sorry for Scout since he genuinely enjoys Airsoft but never gets to play it anymore, similar story to Levelcap in that he can't play without being followed about due to his popularity on YouTube, except unlike Levelcap scout isn't a cunt.

>>1333581
Well obviously. I got a King Arms M1928 though
>>1333620
M1928s were also issued to the US, especially in the Pacific.

>>1333644
.25's are just as common as .20 so easy to find, rarely cost more and are more accurate but without being too weighty. They're the ideal full auto AEG bb.

For pistols it's different but I still use .25.

>>1333715
yeah I forgot the word "army' there

So whatever happened to western arms pistols?

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Anyone wanna post their rear-wired M4/M16 setup ?
specifically, free-floated 14.5 inch barreled ones ?
I need inspiration.

Also should I go for keymod or RIS ?

>>1333947
keymod if you don't want to be a fucboi

>>1333957
Why would full RIS be fucboi ?

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>>1333947
RIS with two tone XTM covers

>>1333983
I find this sexy as fuck, no idea how the weight difference would feel though, maybe I should just go full RIS.

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>tfw after using a gbbr aegs arn't fun any more
>tfw severely limited options
>tfw extremely expensive magazines and no more mid/high caps
>tfw asking why did i ruin myself

>>1334017
Tippmann M4 or Daytonagun suit you?

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>>1333264
>>1333274

>>1333296
Why no just buy a 74U.

>>1333444
>no effort loadouts
Examples ?

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this is a extremely specific question that practicly 1% of you would be able to answer, but fuck it.


Would i be able to attach a M-LOK MagPul foregrip onto a Troy TRX Battlerail?

Specially these kinds, i don't want to have to buy more rail sections.

>>1334258
The TRX isn't MLOK, so no.

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>>1334258
Is this grip appealing to you?

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>>1333947

>Only three months until I'm back home and spend all this hard earned money on airshit and dakimakuras.

>>1334252
I imagine it's gear that's easily completed in a single order from one shop and that's "tried" and "tested"

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>139 hidden mandrama thread

>>1333337
nice get.
but
>undertale
>not as bad
c'mon senpai. Fucking undertale is worse than anime for the reason alone of how often it references LE QUIRKY ANIME XD and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

I accidentally a sig 556 is this serious?

>>1335489
I've heard that it doesn't matter which gun you buy in airsoft because you're going to have to replace all the internals anyway to make it decent.

>>1335505
Yeah, well, whoever told you that is a cunt.

>>1335505
What this >>1335510 guy said.

Most guns shoot acceptably well out of the box, a lot of people fuck their guns up by 'upgrading' them with after market parts.

>>1335505
Maybe if you buy a trash gun to begin with

If you buy a TM aeg and start 'upgrading' parts it's very easy to spend $150 making a worse gun

>>1334295
no

>>1333291
It's very useful for information that has been compiled in their sidebar and archived threads, but anything else is just plain stupid with M4/Squatsoft posts and questions that Google can answer.

>>1332970
Oh lord almighty. G&P HS Motor is infamous for it's lack of torque and all the problems it brings with it. The issue is most likely a combination of problems. Bit stronger spring, bad shimming and the lack of torque.

>>1330925
Specna Arms makes decent AR15 models.

>>1335505
Some guns need more upgrading than others. Some people are okay with non-high level performance.

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GHK AK or Marui Gas 870?

they're the same price with evike and airsoft GI memorial day sales because the marui is price fixed

>>1333808
Nothing, same as TM, marketted mostly for domestic market.

Anywhere else, no one wants $200+ plastic gas pistols.

>>1335670
Ghk, m870 will require modifications for green gas or propane use.

But seriously, who even makes sig 556 aegs? Mine has no trades, so it's -probably- not king arms?

>>1335704
i was under the impression that non blow back gas maruis could use propane.

>>1335704
GHKs can use propane fine. Stop spreading fud.

>>1335758
Normally, but for the Marui 870, higher pressure gas can cause the gas chamber in the stock to swell in heat, making it more difficult or even impossible to remove the thing. You'll need a reinforced gas chamber, the tube stock gas chamber, or an HPA tap.

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>>1335771
>higher pressure gas can cause the gas chamber in the stock to swell in heat

That sounds dangerous as hell. Guess I'll steer clear as I don't really want to fiddle with an HPA setup. (kind of funny how we've gone full circle back to classic airsoft setups)

>>1335780
It won't explode, and you can still use duster gas. It's just an additional cost to get the reinforced gas chamber.

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are M4A1's kosher?

>>1335771
Nice reading comprehension, I specifically said M870 cant.

>>1335787
It will, already happened to me.

>>1336085
If you meant to recommend the GHK before explaining the problems with the 870, you should have used a period after "Ghk". I comprehended just fine. You're the one that fucked up the grammar.

>>1335723
CYMA.

>>1335866
Kosher for what?

>>1336100
>defending GHK this much to the point of overblown misunderstanding
You need to calm the fuck down

>>1335670
Mags for the GHK will rape your wallet, but can run propane and green gas more or less out of the box.
The 870 can use the same shells as any Marui based spring shotgun which makes getting lots of magazines really cheap, but you'll need to upgrade the tank and nozzle if you want to use anything other than 134a and live in an area with hot weather.

>>1336319
>defending GHK
The only thing I'm defending is good grammar, sperglord. English: do you speak it?

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>>1336421
Sick bait, dudester!

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>>1336421
I know your autism speaks.

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I really want to get into Milsim, never played Airsoft before though, so I have very little knowledge of anything. Does anybody know if this gun is any good? Cybergun Sig 556, metal AEG, made by CYMA, apparently.

>>1336707
Why are you asking after you bought the thing? Also the gearbox is pretty shit apparently.

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Anyone have any build kits or idea on how to convert a lancer tactical Barrett into an AEG. I like the weight of it as well as theability to put a fuckhuge inner barrel in it. I have a spare version 2 gearbox and version 2 hop up as well as an old stock 6.03mm inner barrel from an SVD. Any ideas asg? I just want a shits and giggles gun frankly.

>>1336707
Start going to local fields and skirmishes. Don't jump into water not knowing how deep it is.

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>>1331313
I'm this faggot here. Had fun. Really considering ordering this list tonight. Any thoughts?

>>1337007
Don't get those gloves. Find some BMX gloves that work well and cut them it needed.

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>>1337041
or mechanix gloves like this one

>>1337061
I really want something light and shitty that won't make my hands hot.

>>1337007
Don't expect Evike to get your gun in by June. They're known for moving the expected date several times.

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>>1337112
too late. here's hoping.

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>>1337061
>no index/middle finger

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>>1337041
>Not getting the OG cool guy gloves

>playing with a DMR at 400fps because I thought that was the limit
>the fps limit is actually 450fps
Would changing only the spring to a 140 help? I don't want to tweak a lot of stuff since I'll be getting Mancraft in two months tops and the replica shoots nicely as it is.

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>>1337346
Why do you think you need to shoot that hot?

>>1331682
>GHK shoot around 450ish fps
I have an AKM and it was chronoed last week. It was shooting only around 360. What gives?

>>1337377
Because I'm able to. I see no reason to not shoot that hot if the fields allow me to do it.

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>>1337383
Hah, knew it. What ever makes your dick twitch, bro.
>>1333559
Pic related exists

>>1337378
You don't live in SoCal and play in 90 degree weather every week.

>>1337383
50 FPS isn't going to get you all that much desu. Just flat-hop if you haven't already and you'll shoot far enough.

>>1337389
>What ever makes your dick twitch, bro.
How do I dare play by the rules anyways? Preposterous!

>>1337391
>Just flat-hop if you haven't already and you'll shoot far enough.
Barrel and hop are already tweaked since it's the stuff that is going to stick when I move to Mancraft. I just wanted to squeeze those extra fps for next to no cash.
As I said the replica performs perfectly but I'm kind of a min-maxer so being short by 50fps triggers my autism.

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>>1337391
Oh sweet summer child...
It's not about range.

>>1337391
>You don't live in SoCal and play in 90 degree weather every week
True that but it was over 20C at the time it was chronoed. Is there any way to get more FPS out of a GBB? Nuprol 4.0 or some upgrade?

>>1336138
Our daddy told us not to be ashamed of our ARs.

>>1336707
American milsim or European milsim? I'm not familiar with the first, I think it's the same thing as weekend skirmishes over here.

>>1337389
>muh fps
>muh pain
why do you fags even play this sport?

I tried a drop-leg holster for my MK23 (and other sidearms) but the thing didn't convince me. Even when tightened as fuck it feels to 'wobbly' and I'm constantly afraid of something happening to the replica even when secured.
I've been considering the possibility of getting one of those molle adapters and hooking a rigid holster to my chest since I really don't carry anything on the chest panel of my carrier and the position feels convenient enough for me to use.

What I want to know is if there's something negative that I should know about carrying the replica there and if anyone here knows of a not very expensive holster with good retention, in Europe if possible so I don't get raped by shipping fees.

>>1337377
>Leetett
noice.
Anyway, maybe he doesn't want to "hurt" people but have more range?

>>1337426
I considered the idea, but Mk23 is 2big4me and I'd have trouble taking out the STANAGs from under it.
I eventually settled for a hip holster and a tornado holster. They're adaptable, so you can even put a LAM on the thing. Hip area is much more stable than thigh.
I've seen some french website making Kydex holsters for Mk23, but I havent heard anything about them.

>>1337426
If your holster is one of those with a detachable upper part, get rid of the upper part so holster rides higher. Manufacturers like to make really long straps for some reason, and most common mistake is to wear them low.

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>>1337425
For thrills and giggles, not to take advantage of rules to get revenge on schoolyard bullies by lashing out at strangers who dun nufin.

>>1337427
More pain = better hit detection = better working gameplay. That's a reason. "Just because I can" is what bullies do.

>>1337427
I'm the guy that asked the question about the spring.
I want the best performance that I can get out of a replica but I also want the bbs to hurt more as well because the more they hurt the less people want to get hit, which means that people that get hit will call the hit unless they want to keep getting hurt. It's a great anti-cheater's method honestly and with how equipped everyone goes nowadays you really need to pack a punch at certain distances.
For that same reason I always double-tap (I never play full-auto) and don't hesitate to go for headshots or buttshots if needed.

And I can assure you that you'll never see or hear me complain about bbs hurting because I know what I'm playing, the potential dangers of it and I personally want and encourage people to have their replicas as hot as the rules allow them to.

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>>1337442
That I can agree with. Being a big boy is about knowing why you do what you do.

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>>1337444
1337 + triples, my life is complete.

>>1337442
>the more they hurt the less people want to get hit, which means that people that get hit will call the hit unless they want to keep getting hurt. It's a great anti-cheater's method
>tfw I remember times when people didnt need to fire hot and 350 fps was enough

>>1337430
>hip holster
I've only tried one hip holster once and it made me feel really uncomfortable. Maybe I didn't place it correctly so I'm going to try this option too. I really don't care about the LAM but I wouldn't mind being able to use the suppressor problem is it makes the thing so fucking long that I don't think I'll ever have the opportunity of using it.

>>1337434
Is mid-thigh height considered too low? Because that's pretty much where it was placed. Maybe I should try a bunch of different leg holsters and at different heights.

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>>1337466
What does anyones considerations have to do with this? Wear it so high that it works. Pictured is holster for people with gibbon arms.
One thing to think about is gun length. Pistol + suppressor + high holster = you look funny when you draw.

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>>1337467
Gun length was discussed previous post, never mind that bit. I just want to include this holster which is gorgeous. Such a pretty holster.

>>1337467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hb6wqhuKkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hb6wqhuKkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hb6wqhuKkQ

>>1337467
>Wear it so high that it works.
I wore it as high as I could, mid-thigh in my case, and it worked. My problem is that the thing even when tightened as hell felt like it moved too much while running and even jogging to the point I kept constantly checking the holster.
That's why I asked about those chest-adapters and rigid holsters.

I'll just hit a shop and test a few holsters myself so that I'm sure I buy the one I'm more comfortable and safe with.

>>1337468
Everything leather looks great to me. If I could find a genuine leather should holster that doesn't interfere with my armor vest I would definitely buy it. That shit looks so classy.

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>>1337469
Brevity is the soul of wit, I could have just posted that video, didn't know it existed. Thank you. Great video.

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>>1337470
Bad holster. It's not the holsters fault though, it was made that way. Foster and love that holster, you don't want to be one of those superconsumers who add stuff to the already big pile of trash we have by buying new stuff every time they make a bad decision. You wanted it at one point. Layers of duct tape, sew it tighter, whatever. Arts and crafts.
Chest holster + sling = ???
>>1337476
Ikr

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>>1337473
Ikr

>>1337479
>Chest holster + sling = ???
Double-point doesn't interfere much with your chest assuming you are carrying the replica front of you and not tightened to the back. Even single-point can be adjusted a bit to leave part of your chest free. Not sure if that would be enough for a Mk23+Holster though.

>>1336876
Since you need to ask, you probably won't do it right. Just buy the AEG version from SW or JG.

>>1336807
guy who bought a pocket money 556 here: that's not me.

>>1336707
See if you can buy a cyma branded one, not a cybergun. All they do is rebrand and increase the price. No clue how it'd be for milsim mind, I've barely tried mine out. What kind of loadout would you build around one? afaik they're not actually a military issued gun.

>>1337007
~you're gonna get your fucking teeth shot out~

>>1337502
Maybe he doesn't have teeth. Did you consider that, smart guy?

>>1337502
is a shimagh not good enough for ya, punk?

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>>1337502
>not using your shemagh as a tooth protector

>>1337742
...no, not at all. It's a thin bit of cloth, it's not going to protect shit.

>>1337764
it drapes though, its not like its skin tight against your face

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>>1337748
>>1337764
>>1337742
Steelmouth tbqh familia. I've been using it under a balaclava for my Beslan kit. Yeah my cheeks are exposed and so is my nose, but my teeth are fine.

>>1337809
>>1337808
>>1337764
>>1337748
Here ya go faggots:
http://seriouslytactical.com/steelmouth/

>>1337742
Its really more of a question of is it good enough for the ref, since most fields at least in the US require a mesh or paintball mask for liability reasons.

>>1337884
my local field only requires eye pro, but it is cqb with no engagement minimum, so maybe I ought to supplement the shemagh after all

>>1337884
I'd check with the fields themselves. Usually it's only under 18 that requires full face pro.

>>1337812
>>1337809
Guess I'll get one of these to supplement. How uncomfortable are they?

What's the best way to lower the fps on my hi capa? It runs too hot with a fresh co2 capsule. Should I just snip small lengths off of the hammer spring?

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Okay this GHK AK is weird as fuck. Its definitely colder now than it was when I had problems with it and now it shoots no problem. What the actual fuck.

Are there any decent G36 drum mags?
Or should I stick to my M4 adapter and buy a decent M4 drum mag (which ones do you use?)
It doesn't have to be self-winding.

I just need it for games with friends where I don't take my gear to not scare them off.
Also my autism doesn't allow me to enjoy having limitless pew-pew in a tiny STANAG hi-cap. It has to be a drum, preferably in shape of mobius ribbon so it makes sense it's endless.

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>>1337812
Don't buy anything from Seriously Tactical.

It's been 3 months since my order with them and I haven't seen anything, it's apparently been 'waiting for pickup'. A friend had the exact same experience.

Either they're actually trying to fleece people or are just too incompetent to run a storefront.

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>>1323871
>No top rail to mounts optics that'd make up for those shit Thompson sights
>that camo
>that tape
>Having a Thompson

Worst kind of snowflake.
Some people are better off dead.
2/10 at best

>>1337809
>>1337812

any reason to not just safety pin a slice of chicken wire to your balaclava?

>>1333559
The Brits did, but the US used the standard 30 round sick mags.