/asg/ - Airsoft General

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My Gear

I widh there were more places to play around detroit. Right now there's only two. I'm convinced commandos airsoft is a drug front since they have NO SIGN on the building holding their field. And the guy running t store counter spends 99% of his time talking on his phone. It's like they don't want you there. The only other field just opened in the old empty kmart. Hopefully they are better.

Suck a dick California with your 100 million fields to choose from.

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Rate my shit, /asg/

>>1240409
74/10

Hey /asg/ what are your thoughts on the TM Recoil-Shocks?

>>1240466
If you got money and you want a personal vibrator for realism while shooting manchildren, go for it.

>>1240466
Best recoil system you can get. TM Magic, only for 1J or less.

>>1240404
Went to Commando's about two months back, and the refs were going out between rounds with the players to take shots out of the back of a tahoe, it's the shittiest field I ever went to. On that subject though, I myself am opening a field near Bay City in a former prison. Should be up by December.

>>1240497
I'm on the other side of Lake Michigan so I probably won't make it out, but got pics of the facility? That shit sounds sweet.

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Just scored a vfc scar L for 200 shipped.

I'm hype boys.

>>1240529
N O I C E

>>1240521
Not as of yet, should be going through it within the month though. 6 buildings and 600 acres hype.

>>1240497
Sweet Jesus please make this come true

>>1240404
>>1240497
>>1240521
MI niggas! I'm trying to organize with my friends to head up to the field in Kalamazoo sometime this month.

>>1240560
I'll do my hardest anon.

>>1240613
I'd make the drive for a good game. Plus I can hit up mena's joint.

>>1240529
my friend was setting me up a umarex hk416 for 210 dollaros but then i had to go to MN and he sold it to some other nigger
tell us how that baby shoots when you get it

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Who condor here?

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>>1240816
>MOPC

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>>1240145
Its super efficient with gas, unlike the piece of shit gas chamber. Super EZPZ to hpa tap the full stock too.

>>1240049
:^)

>>1240076
Pros of working in a shitty store and having a cool supervisor.

>>1240816
>Implying condor is something to be proud of
Kek anon condor is total shit

>>1240947
Nice dude. I'm planning on getting a tm 870 and doing that in the near future.

>UK
>go online to find glorious motherland AEG
>"OUT OF STOCK"

Why do airsoft retailers never keep on top of their stock situation? I'm not after a toptec M60 or whatever, i just want a frigging Cyma CM028S, in two tone blue in case i use it to join ISIS or whatever the UK govt think i'm going to do.

>>1241016
>airsoft retailer website
>no option to filter items out of stock
>doesn't even list they're out of stock until you view the product page

>>1240409
>barrel in the ground
>wrong mag
what the FUCK anon

>>1241035
>wrong mag
What? It fits so what?
>HURR IT'S NOT LIEK THE REAL ONE WOULD USE IT

>>1241054
>standards
you have none

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>>1240409
Muzzle in the ground is bad.

Otherwise, I'm a huge fan of the stamped 5.45mm magazines, and the Romanian/German wire-stock. Reminds me of a Tantal.

Can't say that I fancy the Donkey Dick vfg tho, but that's a matter of taste.

>>1241035
How the fuck is the magazine wrong, you sperg? At most you can point at the gas-block, typically used for the 7.62mm rifles but it's not like you can't make a 5.45mm or 5.56mm AK with that gas-block.

To anyone questioning UCP/ACU, from last thread

>>1239538
It was meant for destroyed urban environments like half of the cities in the middle east, because we noticed that not a single camo worked in an urban environment besides UCP and it works damn well in an urban environment. That along with the fact that 90% of the fighting in the future is more than likely going to take place in an urban environment.

>>1241116
Where do you take that from? Because that's not fucking true so stop projecting.

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>>1241120
Seems to work pretty well in this urban environment.

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>>1241120
>projecting

>>1241130
>uctard is positioned on the brighest part of the cobblestone

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Guys I play in jeans and a hoodie. How can I be l33t 0ps like you guys? Does camo really make me more accurate? I think I does.

Hey guys i'm looking at buying a g36c. I have been looking at guns from Umarex, KWA and Ares. Which brand would you recommend?

P.S I understand that the Umarex has Ares/S&T internals

>>1241156
JG G36C was the meme gun couple years back.

>>1241156
None of those shits. And C is the ugliest variant you dumbass

>>1241166
>>1241156
g36a2 master race

>>1241164
>>1241166
Ok didn't expect that kinda response. I actually don't mind the look but I guess my real question is that im looking for an aeg that is not an m4/ak and has solid internals that won't need to be upgraded for a while.

>>1241062
>Preferences
Yours are different

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>>1240947
I see I am not the only one who loves real sword, Type 97b would look sexy AF with a mock suppressor

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>>1241247
Chinese load out

>>1241275
>export version in .223
>Chinese loadout
Nope. Canadian sportsman loadout at most.

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>>1240816
No. I only wear US made gear that isn't shit.

>pic related
Custom Head on Tactical chest rig, SOE H-harness, BDS and LBT pouches.

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Is there a special screw used to mount rails? I have a bucket of screws and none of them fit right

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>>1241173
jg aug,snow wolf thompson,g&g fn herstal,lcs mp5sd which i actually own and would def recommend

>>1241335
What rails, what're you mounting them on?

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>>1241347

>>1241335
>>1241364
There must be any fitting in that handguard, screws are universal

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>>1241343
also most cyma's

>>1241364
Check out the Tokyo Marui manual from their website, it says M5x9.5

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>Ruger Mini 14 AEG/GBB never

>>1241427
DIY

>>1241173
If you want something that doesn't look like an M4 or AK, try picking up a Galil or an M14

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>>1241427
Make it yourself like George Clooney.

>>1241440
That was such a shitty movie.

>>1241438
A bullpup is fine too.

>>1241432
>>1241440
I don't even know where to begin on that

>>1241173
I won a MTC3 in a box of awesomeness and though its a bastard gun its solid.

>>1241427
The kjw 10/22 would be a good base to make a mock up of mini 14

>>1241459
Fuck dude I want the wood furniture with the folding stock though
I have been eyeing that 10/22 though for a while

>>1241459
>>1241427
KJW 10/22 fits straight in to the real Ruger stocks iirc. Try modding one to use stanag mags.

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>>1241459
>plain blowback gun in a small enclosed receiver
>a gas-piston operated rifle featuring a rotating bolt, with the top of the receiver open

Terrible base, would be better suited to use some manner of M14 or M1 Carbine as a base instead, then the action would actually almost look right.

They literally look and feel nothing alike.

>>1241464
I don't think anyone makes anything like that which fits, you might be able to take one from a model gun (some are very nice), otherwise you're looking at 400 or 500 dollars for an original Ruger factory folder.

Otherwise you could try to make your own.

>>1241442
Nice tits and muscles tho.

>>1241120
Look at it, look at it long and hard. Now look at a decayed/destroyed urban environment. Rinse/repeat until your autism levels are at acceptable levels.

>>1241109
The mags are the APS ones, probably one of the few things I'd give props to APS for like V3 quick spring change gearboxes.

I was initially thinking of making a Tantal, but I recently got some strichtarn to wear so that's also an option.

The donkey dongers are something almost no one likes, but I find them amusing.

>>1241035
I swear I found it sticking out like that in my backyard.

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Underslung grenade launchers - yay or nay?

>>1241739
In terms of what? I have one I can tell you about

>>1241739
For looks and feels? Sure
Are they practical? Hell no

>>1241742
Practicality
>>1241745
Why not? Arent they basically glorified one shot shotguns?

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Tanaka made a mini 14

>>1241755
>Practicality
heh..

They are heavy single shot shotguns with a massive trigger pull. If you want it for usefullness then you're wasting your money. If you want it for some keks or for a loadout, then maybe it'll be up your alley.

>>1241816
So they arent just added weight then?

>>1241818
>So they arent just added weight then?
?
No, they do technically do something... Just not very well.

>>1241755
Look into Tag rounds. They're expensive, but they actually give grenade launchers a purpose.

>>1241821
You mean range and scatter right?

>>1241767
Probably a model gun though. Lots of those old Japanese airsoft companies started out making models, and some still do.

>>1241523
All GBBRs are going to be straight blowback since they don't need any form of bolt lockup.
You could always get the "better" riffle and get a WE M14.

>>1241755
There simply isn't a scenario where the grenade launcher would be more useful than the primary gun. The range is awful and accuracy despite shooting a small cloud, is nonexistant. The only reason to buy them is the wow factor and looks. If you want to shoot clouds of bbs, just buy a DSG like any sane person would.

>>1241849
Chalk/Pyro TAGs are good for anti vehicle roles, but they're not really suited for anti-personnel since the blast radii are so small and lack any "fragmentation". People will call them anyways though if they're a good sport.
https://youtu.be/SqwENJDTP4A?t=2m57s

One day I hope we can get launch-able grenades that actually scatter BBs on impact.

>>1241767
There used to be a pump-action one with a sawed-off stock, like way back in the 80's, I can't see why you'd want it now, nor why you would want it then.

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>>1241846
>All GBBRs are going to be straight blowback since they don't need any form of bolt lockup
I know, but the bolt on the 10/22 is a small, solid piece (aside from the firing-pin), it's very distinct from the Mini-14, though it's only for show, the bolt-carrier on a M1 or M14 gbb will actually rotate, and the charging-handle is a separate piece, both have a longer travel, you both see and feel the difference.

It'd just be another aesthetic and feel altogether.

What's an acceptable price for a Krytac CRB? My local store is selling it for almost $600, it seems retardedly steep.

>>1241926
>$600

HJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Are you in the US or any of the Asian countries were airsoft is popular?

>>1241945
Denmark, I fucking hate this country and the fact that we pay 25% extra on literally everything.

>>1241948
You mean almost 100% markup?

http://www.evike.com/products/49629/

>>1241926
Gunfire sells them for 400€. I'd go with Lonex though.

>>1241953
Why is it always so much cheaper in the US compared to everywhere else.
>>1241961
They're unfortunately only selling the Dark Earth version for 400€, though I guess I could live with.

>>1241970
Company is based in the US, free trade agreements, and a total lack of regulation of airguns in the United States.

>>1241926
Evike sells it for 325 USD
RIP your wallet

>>1241948
Is it Denmark where you need to have a gun safe for your airsoft guns?

>>1241977
Also no huge as fuck sales taxes to deal with

>>1241977
Shit's unfair.
>>1241980
Not that I know of, haven't heard about such a concept either.

>>1241983
Might have been the Netherlands then.

>>1241977
This, the Americans are better than us Scandinavians.

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>>1240330
>Post your gear with a timestamp.
Posted last thread, reposting for this one.

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>>1240330
>>1241988

I see a pattern to follow in here...

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>>1242021

Im planning on getting jg mac 10 as a sidearm what do you guys think

>>1241364
how are the built in optics of your G36 treating you? i've been tempted to get one with the optics, but according to everything i find on it, the built in optics are shit or at the very least sub-par.

>>1242125
I have two optics, the 3x and the red dot.
Red dot came broken but it's a comfortable position to look through, the 3x is really hard to use with the KV stock and it requires a very specific angle to view through. Everything about the rifle is looks > function. It's to finish my BW loadout.

I am fielding the rifle for the first time tomorrow (if tech can unfuck it)

>>1242100
Terrible idea. Not even TM compatible so you can't get aftermarket parts support.

Ever since i got to run around at the BW for a weekend i've been in love with the G36A. anyone have any suggestions with a budget of max $600? from my research what seemed the "best" was the elite force G36A, because of that sweet sweet burst fire.

>>1242142
let me know how it goes!

>>1242151
>at the BW
?

>>1242148
What parts in the JG Mac-10 aren't clones of the TM version?

>>1242179
Bundeswehr, read German army

>>1242189
I know that's what it stands for, I just don't get the context.

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greetings from Hong Kong

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>>1242220
>That timestamp

>>1242203
I went to an introductory thing at a BW base. got to shoot G36. good times were had. does that clear things up?

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>>1242220
nice e&c shill

>>1242100
They're fucking huge. No thigh holster can take it. You'll have to carry it on a slight, and that means putting your main down to use you secondary, or carrying your main in your offhand. It's really fucking weird and intuitive to have two guns slung on your body.

>>1242220
You're going to play on the coming holidays?

>>1242236
yes,i'm going to thailand or south korea for their milsim

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>>1242220
>>1242233
>Fake timestamp guy
>Guy who takes loadout pics from everywhere but his own camera
Oh look, two faggots who don't even airsoft.

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>>1242240
are you trying to cause trouble again?

>>1242229
You are german?
And you have 600$ for gun or for full kit?

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>>1242243
>faggot continues to bait trouble by doing the same shit that's sparked trouble before
>"are you trying to cause trouble again?"
Pretty sure you are fucker.

>>1242246
i am dutch, and thats 600$ for the gun itself.

>>1242247
>getting mad over people posting airsoft in airsoft thread

We do this every thread and get nowhere

>>1242247
right,the shit in the last thread only started with you
now go yap around somewhere else

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>>1242251
>>1242250
>aware something he does causes a shitstorm
>he continues to do it
Yeah no.

>>1242254
right,exactly how it causes a shitstorm is an enigma since nothing eventful came out the 2-3 previous threads or so,but sure whatever makes you feel better

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>>1242251
You still haven't posted your kit. You gonna do it, or are you just gonna repost that babyfaced rusfor guy? Or maybe another fake timestamp?

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>>1242261
yeah i don't have a marker so i'll substitute that by a book from jeremy clarkson
i've posted my loadout pic,iit's me wearing a green jumpsuit with a mp5sd with two BHD seals

>>1242278
>marker
You could use a fucking pen
>i've posted my loadout pic,iit's me wearing a green jumpsuit with a mp5sd with two BHD seals
Why dont you post that too then?

>>1242278
You the one that looks like IDF?

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>>1242285
are you going to stop being a mouth breathing retard now?

>>1242289
Not until there's any sort of face or proof you didn't pull these pictures from the internet.

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>>1242293
thank you for wasting my time

>>1242238
Oh damn, I stay in local CQB's. May be meet you one day.

>>1242220
Must not be easy dealing with those dumb comments on the evike comment section

>>1242300
it's actually been a long time since i played local cqb,maybe i'll stretch out a bit and try it once again
>>1242319
they seem pretty averse to reading the gun specification and head straight to the comments
and the guy supplying the guns are pretty heavy lipped,so i have to check our most of the specification and part compactibility

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Do people actually buy these TM sets?

>>1242332
I would. I really enjoy Daito and didloaded's art, and they'd make for some nice posters to put up.

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Cool to see this board doing well! I was in highschool when /asp/ started, really hoped airsoft would stick around. I have an A&K Mk. 43 back home, waiting to get it shipped here to where I'm stationed. I scored an S&T PP19 for a crisp $130 plus a couple extra batteries and a high cap to get myself started in the mean time. Also just ordered a black Zsh 1-2m helmet with the visor. Gonna go for an OMON or FSIN/FSB (A) loadout.

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>>1242332
Is there anywhere I can actually buy them? I'd love to.

>>1242328
So you play outdoor mainly?

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>>1242337
>>1242334

I was looking more into the TM Recoil Shock HK416 and I saw this on the site, so I'm sure if youre using Google Chrome and auto TL the site, you can buy it, playing BF4 is also making me want it more

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>>1242341
I bet that's some Japan exclusive bullshit. I'm gonna try to find it on some places that sell internationally.

>>1242339
yes,i have plenty of opportunity to travel due to my affiliation with airlines(i get free air tickets every months) so occasionally i go to places like Indonesia,Philippines where their airsoft scene is bigger
so where do you play,impact force?

>>1242336
>PP-19
If it's not a Vityaz, then you're going to be doing an MVD era Chechen kit which will be expensive as fuck.

>>1242337
Honestly, try Yahoo.jp or Rakuten. You're going to need a proxy though since Yahoo and Rakuten don't generally ship to filthy whitu piggus like us.

>>1242348
The fun part is, nobody actually uses the PP 19. Neat gun, not so neat service history. Not going for hardcore realism, just a "this is what I would wear" kind of thing. And all Russian gear is wtf expensive. Gonna take time, but I'm excited, mang.

>>1242348
FSB and some internal affairs still use them. MVD has anything from old as shit banged up 74s to tacticool equipment based on what they can scavenge

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>>1242349
Yeah Russian gear can get pretty damn expensive, but it's actually issued stuff and not Condor crap. You could get a SS-leto Partizan suit and something like a new-gen smersh or Parti harness replica for cheap, but you'd be Farb Master Supreme.

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>>1242336
let the slavsoft flows through you

>>1242359
What the fuck is up with that Gorka? Is it a Bars or something?

>>1242357
Maybe KLMK, maybe all black summer suit. There's SMERSH and one other that I thought was neat. Gotta dig for a pic

>>1242359
Definitely no GORKA. That shit is PISS hot. US army issued GORKA is no better.

>>1242366
>US army issued GORKA
u wot

>>1242368
Dunno why I said that. US army issue wet weather. Similar material. Great against water, makes you sweat like a pig

>>1242370
GORETEX?

I only kept my M65 from back when, I mean its in UCP, but whatever

>>1242372
Yeah. The new OCP stuff is nicer. Closest to GORKA. More pockets, still hot as fuck. No way I would wear it if I didn't have to.

>>1242363
Partizan? Sbruya? Old-gen Smersh?

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>>1242360
correcto mundo my friend
>>1242366
go try asking red alliance
their rusfor game is the stronkest

>>1242375
Correction, the Russian Russians subset of RA has the stronkest Rusfor game.

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>>1242374
Apologies for screen cap, I'm on mobile and it won't save Nerpa. The pouches look big enough to hold my fuckhueg PeePee mags

>>1242344
>>1242348

Have you guys tried buying off the TM sight, it lets me go as far as putin my shipping info and such, but I dont feel like going any further since I aint Japanese

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>>1242380
Never tried it. Once again, you can do it but you'll need to pay a proxy in Japan so they can ship it to you. The [spoiler]buyfag threads on /a/[/spoiler] cover this, and you can find a decent amount of stuff about it on Google.

>>1242379
Don't underestimate the size of Bizon magazines. Take this guy for example with his Smersh.

>>1242383
I've seen some creative solutions. One of my favorites was a dude using open topped radio pouches that were elastic at the top

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>>1242383
>>1242379
Also don't quote me on this, but you MIGHT be able to use an RPK Smersh since it has deeper pouches.

>>1242391
Good call anon.
Also, I have no experience with suppressors, but I think this gun would look great with one. Don't need a longer IB, it's good for about 340fps already. The flash hider has proven annoying to remove thus far, and I'm not sure if the nub underneath it is threaded. S&T says it is, but if it's not, wat do?

>>1242397
certainly exquisite,would probably fit to whatever kit you're aiming for
go for it

>>1242397
It'll be threaded and will most likely be a standard counter clockwise thread. As for a suppressor, it's not a bad idea to get a longer barrel since you'd probably have like 8" of space between the end of the barrel and the exit of the suppressor, so the BB could hop into the top of the chamber or even strike the end of the suppressor on its way out.
You do sort of lose the ability to quickly take the suppressor on or off though.

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How do yall store BBs, I keep mine in an ammo can I got back from ROTC, pretty handy bring off and on the field, I probably have 4 bags of 5000.2s and a bag of .23s

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>>1242403
my ammunition handbag,which actually has a silk lining
i only get myself 0.2,0.3 or 0.4g bbs since anything that doesn't end with zero brings bad karma

>>1242411
>brings bad karma

explain?

>>1242403
I keep mine in Valken bb bottles. I use Valken Orange .25s, and since they only sell those in 10kg bags, I group-buy and keep my 10k bbs in two 5k bottles.

>>1242456
He's autistic, anon.

Tfw too scared to go to airsoft field solo

>>1242613
If you use this thread as a gauge of how autistic the average airsofter is, I think you'll be ok going on your own.

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>>1242613
Where are you from anon? People around here are really friendly, you could probably make friends with anyone at a field. There was a guy at a CQB place who had gone alone and a bunch of people would come over and talk to him or he'd ask questions about our gear and we kept him some company.

>>1242620
Socal, like 40 min from SC village

>>1242622
There's a lot of people in Cali here, I'm sure someone would wanna play. Since the airsoft scene is so big there you really shouldn't have trouble finding someone to get along with, either at the field or online.

>>1242624
I'm still waiting on the rest of my head to ship out before I go again, red dragon takes forever to ship their shit

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myself upon hearing there are janitors who clean boards for free

Should I get this G&G rifle?

http://www.evike.com/products/61771/

>>1242653
It's a glorified combat machine, so no.

>>1242653
>paying 265 for that fucking shit
>ever

No if it's G&G and says CM don't fucking get it. Go for an APEX for that price

>>1242658
Would you recommend this one?

http://www.evike.com/products/50668

>>1242658
>APEX
>Not G&P
Get a load of this loser.

>>1242674
>that barrel length
are you compensating for something?

>>1242674
Yeah that's good, I mean internally they are the same so get the one you like the most

>>1242680
G&P is starting to be outdated, still good but getting old.

>>1242683
I just like the (aggressive) look. Plus I have long arms so it'll be more comfy

>>1242686
Thx man

Is there a "perfect" revolver?
>Adjustable hop-up
>Extractable shells.
>CO2/Green Gas operated
>Non-stupid FPS, CQB field limits.
>Doesn't look like dog shit.
>Mechanism doesn't shit itself when fanning
I guess affordable price is also welcome.
I almost never use my sidearm in wood games, so fuck it - good SA revolvers are welcome too.

>>1241739
Underslung is more trouble than it's worth for me. At least with bb rain shells. I haven't got the retarded amounts of money to get into TAG shells, but I imagine it would give GLs some purpose, I'd love to drop smoke nades everywhere.

Now those 40mm pistol grenade launchers, on the other hand, are pretty great with moscarts if you can locate it somewhere on your gear you can easily reach for it and blast away when an opportunity knocks.

I usually use them for killing bushes or when arcing when somebody's on the otherside of a barricade, also for groups for people. they're pretty fun but a money drain and also bitch to reload and maintain.
They're fun though.

>>1241843
Depends on the kind and gas you use.
Those CO2/HPA Madbull ones have pretty decent range and scatter, but they're a bad idea to use in CQB. Those GG ones have terrible range and not much scatter, but I guess they're okay for CQB.
Still, a lot of hassle. I use a XM108HP in a pistol GL as a last resort/against faraway groups and for keks it's pretty fun.

I'll go underslung only when I'll have money for TAG shells and maybe someone will make a GL with a CO2 compartment already, like the AK one.

>>1242125
I know a regular complaint about the built in optics of the G36 in the Bundeswehr is that they fog very easily.
I can't imagine the airsoft reproductions are any better.

I just found some page called Double Tap Designs and he makes a fuck-ton of accesories to MK23.
>no need to buy a 150 dollar rail now
>no need to buy a 150 TM MK23 for LAM anymore
>Fucking top rails and compensators
Yokata... Mk23~~

>>1241016
I get my AK's from gunfire.pl or Taiwan gun. Eastern euro companies always have AK's

>>1241926
I got mine for £290.

Don't have a pic right now, but can give a breakdown of my gear and get a pic when I can.
>Krytac SPR, Aimpoint T1 replica
>Replica JPC
>3+1 Ares mid caps
>tropentarn uniform (switching it for PL Woodland)
>Magnum Panther 8.0 boots in black
>or Adidas GSG9.2's
Adidas

>>1242779
>GSG9.2
Are they good? I want to get a pair but not sure if they're suitable for me, I play mostly woodland airsoft.

>>1242780
They're great. Completely waterproof the whole way up the laces so unless you go into water higher than the boot none gets in. They're really comfy.

>I play mostly woodland
Me too. They're designed for urban environments but I've been using them for a year in woodland now and they perform well. I only wear the Magnums if it's been especially rainy, because my site can get very very muddy and the grip on the GSG9's aren't designed for that.

>>1242779
>krytac spr
Pls show

>>1241280
you could give it SR-47 magazines, no?

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>>1242674
I have that model apex, I love it. I cut the length of my rail down though.

>>1242403
I store my batteries in the ammo can so I don't burn to death in my sleep because of cheap chinese batteries. The BB's are stored in half-full bags everywhere in my closet.

>>1242613
Went solo last night. It's not weird unless you hide in a corner in the ready room

>>1242803
If it fits and you like the look, sure, but I don't think there ever was one of those guns in 7.62x39mm

>want an sks airsoft gun that isn't shit.

There are so many cool ways they could make it feed too. Even if they just made it take ak mags like an sks type D or offered it as a conversion.

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>>1242613
find some other solo players and converse with them,humans are social creature,and having the basic knowledge of some people in the field could help you alot
>>1242963
m4 and ak are just too much of a stable platform for most company to jump off,sure there are some companies who goes into niche market (snow wolf,ares) but there's too much risk in going out of a way to make a new model

>>1242982
With how sales are slowing down I'd say they need to branch out as the chinese boom has gotten almost everyone who wants one an M4 and an AK

>>1242987
Airsoft is dying out I think. I work at an airsoft shop, and the distributor prices are low as hell. They're trying to move product, but It isn't going anywhere.

I have a few Ideas as to why, but I don't think airsoft is going to be around much longer. In the US at least.

>>1242990
Sales are dying out as innovation is at a standstill
Most companies just copy what others have done and every seasoned player has what they want, unless they like to collect. Airsoft just had the biggest boom in sales about 5-6 years ago due to cheap and reliable chinese guns so this was a bit of a bubble in terms of retailers trying to get in on that. To keep the momentum going a lot of shops will need to cater to players who already have guns rather than just new players. I walk into most shops and 90% of their gear is entry level which is expected but when it comes to online prices its difficult to compete. The doom and gloom over airsoft dying out is a bunch of hot air as the community has begun to solidify nationally and is no longer just a couple of guys doing pick up games. People say the same thing about brick and mortar retail yet they're still doing just fine. I think my biggest complaint is the lack of easily accessible fields in many parts of the USA due to our country's size. If you have all this gear to sell but no place nearby for people to use it then that poses an issue. Hence its in my opinion that shops and fields should combine for maximum stability.

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>>1241116
THANK YOU anon. That was the one thing I always noticed with UCP

>>1241137
Iiiiiiie Don't know about that one

Hey MSATO bro, this was the Fitchburg OP you missed. Pretty neat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJB_lXCXLMw

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>>1242233
I remember this from a previous thread you faker!
Evidence: I made this last time

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>>1242247
You stole my meme!

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>>1242998
yeah things have been pretty stagnant
airsoft is probably at the maturity stage in a product life cycle,they've pretty much milked out every single potential market out there
also there's a pretty robust 2nd and 3rd hand market out there,best the current company can do is trying to consolidate their place and prepare for the next big boom so they can exploit it

>>1242998
I think the hay day was around 2006-2009 After that I kinda feel like it was the beginning of the end. The thing with fields being too spread out is true, but even I've noticed player turn outs slowing. Regular walk on gaming that averaged 120 a weekend had dropped to around 60-80 at best. The bigger games draw a little over 100 in most cases, but it's not what it used to be.

I think mostly new players like kids aren't doing is because of video games. Like back when cod4 first came out, all the little shits could set up their gun to look like their favorite cod4 set up. Now, the video games are all taking place in the future, or simply have guns that airsoft doesn't.

The other thing is the war. Since the news doesn't talk about the wars in Iraq and afaganistan anymore really, the little kids don't think it's "cool" to play army anymore. I live in a very liberal antigun state, so I'm sure that doesn't help it.

I don't know. I just don't have many high expectations for airsoft in the coming years.

>>1243054
>I don't have high expectations
>high expectations
>not having hiiiiiiiiigh leeeeeevel expectaaaaaations.

You need to be more like 811

>>1242734
Elite Force is coming out with one sometime soon I believe.

It has just about everything you want.

>>1242357
I got a hold of a puma pattern Polish rucksack and brand new- unissued Eastern Soviet German GP5 kit and bag. Currently waiting for my dealer to bring in some new goodies next gun show

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>>1242620
Okay, Can I get an artist name for that?

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>Any thoughts on a tactical surfboard unit?

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>>1243255
You like coh's nekos?

>>1242734
ASG Dan Wesson 715 is probably the closest thing you'll get to all those, as it's the only airsoft revolver with an adjustable hop-up. It can also come with either outdoor or indoor shells. It also doesn't particularly cost more than most other pistols, though it is a bit more than other revolvers.

>>1243427
Who's that?

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>>1242734
>fanning
Literally only works on single-action revolvers.

The cylinder won't cycle if you try to do it on a double-action.

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>>1243676
The artist you were asking for.

>>1243685
Then yes I do

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Any DIY paintjobs/camos? Pic related its my MOE M4

>>1243685
Where would i find coh's work? coh is not much to go on when searching online

>>1243690
I spraypainted the new furniture on my CAR-15 in OD green because I couldn't find the parts for sale in that color.

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>>1243692
Pixv or any booru.

>>1243696
the name on pixiv is ga37w8n2.
Sounds like they smashed their head on a keyboard. Thanks BTW

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>>1243710
No problem anon.

>get captured by enemy team
>brought shame onto my family

What do when captured

>>1242359
Real militia hours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJJPHLQRcg4

>>1243851
https://youtu.be/Kzq25SnaYIU?t=24s
BANZAI

Guys I need your help. I have a lowly cm16 raider-L and I want to change up the barrel length situation. What I want to do is shorten the outer barrel and attach a silencer/tracer unit which I know will likely require me to replace the inner barrel to match the new length.

My question is how do I make sure i'm ordering the right size components? Does the length of the outer barrel include the dreads etc? Does the inner barrel length take into account how much barrel is lost to the hop up?

How does this work?

>>1243973
You're going to need to replace the whole barrel and front sight assembly, since the Combat Machine has a (to my knowledge) a fixed barrel length and a front sight that's molded as a part of the barrel.

>>1243977
Ya I'm cool with that. I use an eotech and the front iron sight is rather annoying. I'm just paranoid i'm going to order all these components and they won't fit because I didn't take the length of threads etc etc into account.

What I want is the silencer/tracer to start as close to the handrail as possible. I believe the handrail on a combat machine is 7". If I order a 7" outer barrel will it be the correct size?

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Got a 'nam vintage Y-harness, pair of M56 pouches, and some Tiger Stripe. Am I MSF yet?

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>>1244031
Not quite there, because they use M1956 pouches. Those are LC1 pouches and who ever said they were M1956 took you for a ride.

>>1244046
Meh, close enough. I only payed $4 each for them.

What's some headwear for summer that don't cause my goggles to fog up and won't make me look like a fag?

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>>1244099
Answer is always balaclava

>tfw trying to plan out my operating kit
>can't decide between ranger green or coyote brown gear
>really want multicam tropic clothes but it's expensive and not the best for my area
>other options would be multicam/MTP or flektarn

what do you guys think?

>>1244099
baseball cap
bandana
patrol cap
boonie hat
turban
cowboy hat
shemagh
straw hat

depends on your outfit...

>>1242841
How is the range and accuracy?

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So what brands of parts are compatible for a WE brand gbb AR? Pic not necessarily related.

Does any company make a MagPul "bad lever"? I'm kind of needing a new bolt-release, and I'm wondering if there's any of those available.
I think I might also be looking at a new magazine release and trigger-guard.

When it comes to smaller, more basic parts like that, most of the GBB parts I find of even remotely decent make should fit in most GBBs, right?

>>1244241
Out of the box its got great range and accuracy. On mine the outer barrel was off center of the hand guard by just a hair so it was shooting to the left. I fixed that with a zip tie and now it shoots great. You're going to want a powerful battery for it because it has a big motor

>>1244286
>You're going to want a powerful battery for it because it has a big motor
Want to elaborate on that?

>>1244122
RG is a really sexy color, but it's fairly easy for mismatch on color unless you go for real-steel gear. It also doesn't match other greens as nicely as OD green kit does and getting flat FG BDUs and so on means buying either Crye or LBX. Therefore, overall, CB is the better option. It goes well with a good variety of kit including desert and woodland, contrasts well to green-heavy kit, and still is dark and earthy enough to not give you away at standard camo identification ranges.

If you're in a more arid area, Tropentarn is pretty damn smexy, otherwise I'd need to know more about your terrain conditions.

Just got back from event and didn't use my pistol at all. Is it kosher to keep the mags fully gassed or will that damage them?

>>1244328
run around your neighborhood and start shooting at people to empty it out otherwise it will explode

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>>1244122
get a reference photo of the vegetation and growth around your area,then compare it to some camos
>>1244328
try finding some police area,wave the gun to them and they will know that you're in need of help

>>1244328
It's not good super long term, since too much pressure can compress seals, but keeping a bit of pressure in the mag (around short-stroke pressure is ideal) from proper green gas does prevent the seals from drying out and in fact keeps them lubed.

>>1244349
>He's still posting unrelated images with his posts.

any airsofters in NM? bonus points if you can put up with a noob.
I've been a /k/ommando for a while now but never into airsoft, just never crossed my mind.
but now that shooting real steel is getting expensive, this seems like a good option.
I know basic marksmanship and shit, but nothing airsoft-specific.
right now i'm looking at a used (presumably CYMA) AK on craigslist.
the only field near me is 007paintball and when they do airsoft, it's bring your own gun, something I can't participate, and abq airsoft is shit.
yes I read the pastebin.
I need some help guys, anyone willing to hook me up?

>>1244372
>he's still complaining about petty shit

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some OC.
AUG looking thing is a "UHC Super Mini-M606" I picked up at a antique store.
neat little full auto pistol thing.
pistol is a crosman 1911 I got just to fuck around with.
this is all I have airsoft wise.
scale wise, the 1911 is a fullsize replica and its almost as big as the baby AUG

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>>1244416
Damn man, I commend your effort for shitposting.

>>1244421
kinda trying to revive the thread cause I'm a noob and need some help with picking shit out (yes, I did read the pastebin) and finding other NMbros to airsoft with.

>>1244427
/asp/ is slow, don't need to do much to revive it. If you've got a budget and a shortlist of guns to buy, post it, we'll take a look.

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>>1243851
>>1243895

>>1244427
I could be of help. do you do steam? I can give some advice on your first real airsoft gun

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>>1244427
It's healthy enough.

btw, here's an instagram picture of a friend of mine with his new DIY ghillie suit.

>>1244289
The apex comes with a long type high torque motor and a pretty strong spring in so a powerful battery is a must. It doesn't work well with a 9.6v nimh battery so get a lipo

>>1244454
You didn't explain why the size of the motor would matter. Also, it doesn't really speak highly of the gun if it has trouble cycling with 9,6v battery.

>>1244099
Warm weather balaclava, the kind made for cyclists.

>>1244446
yeah, I do.
that would be great.
add me and lets talk.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/bigdiesel2/

>>1244461
Sorry man, all I know is the thing just works better when I put an 11.1 lipo in it.

>>1244449
This isn't even my final form!

>>1240330
the chat link isn't working for me, it's not going anywhere.
is it broken for anyone else?

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>>1244449
what sr25 is that,or am i mistaken

>>1244486
Usually it's better to be quiet than try to teach others of things you don't understand well enough. You'll just spread misinformation.
It's really not a good sign if you have to run your gun on 11,1v battery. Apex guns also have plastic piston teeth and the piston aoe seems pretty poor from the few pictures I've seen. Since you're running the gun on 11,1v, you'll changing at least the piston pretty soon. It still looks like a pretty good gun though. Just needs a little bit of work to get it right.

>>1244512
I think it's A&K / P&J. He has a truckfull of guns and gear. I don't keep track of it all, so I might be wrong.

>>1244537
I guess I should have just said I'm happy with it

I'm
>>1244427
and >>1244434
said to post a shortlist of what I'm looking at.
so here you go.
first up, this
http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/10129-400-fps-cyma-m14-rifle-black-cyma-cm032-black-vpower.aspx
I like M14s and CYMA is good, so I figure this should be a neat entry gun.
http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/8067-cyma-m4-ris-full-metal-gearbox-airsoft-aeg-rifle-x-tac-polymer.aspx
I, of course, am also looking at M4s.
I'm also checking out LPEGs as I'm on a budget and they seem to be poorfag AEGs.
I'm most considering a CYMA AK on craigslist, this is a good example of it.
http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/10141-400-fps-ak47-cm028a-airsoft-aeg-rifle-black-cyma-cm028a-vpower.aspx
for just the gun I'd like to spend less than $200, bonus points if it's under $150 full price or under $100 on sale.
that price is not counting a smart charger, mags, good ammo, all that fun stuff.
thoughts?

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>>1244549
LPEG isn't for airsoft
they wont go past 50 feet
a&k is good for m4 models,same for aps
try considering what guns suit your play style,and one that fits your loadout and aesthetic

>>1244572
oh wow, they're really that underpowered?
thanks, I'll scratch that off the list.

>>1244590
yup
they're mostly for parents who want to buy their kids airsoft rooty tooty

>be me
>finishing working on my gearbox
>do bad AOE job
>plug in 11.1V battery
>quickly press trigger while on full auto with RA trigger unit set to 3 burst
>proceed to break piston rack at pickup tooth after a few trigger pulls

not bad for my first gearbox build!

>>1244549
honestly, ebay is an alright, spot or getting a decent rifle under 200, just practice common sense

http://www.evike.com/products/41511/

>>1244537
What could I use instead of the lipo?

>>1244634
I thought echo1 was total dog shit?
I get I'm being a cheapfag but I'd rather pay some extra money and have it last rather than burning through cheap guns.

>>1244642
its just over priced stuff of a rebrand of some ACM aegs, but for less than a hundred that doesnt sound too bad.

>>1244644
I was under the impression most of it was rebranded CYMA

>>1244644
>>1244634
would this be a decent starter?
http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/10132-cyma-m14-socom-airsoft-aeg-rifle-cyma-cm032a-green-vpower.aspx
if I get it I'll use one of their codes to get it under $100 bucks, like the fifty50 code or something.

>>1244549
>>1244662
>M14s
Yeah, it's fine. Front-heavy and difficult to work on though, so I don't tend to recommend them. If you buy a CYMA AK, you could do worse than the 28, but spend a bit more and you get a much higher quality gun externally and internally. Do NOT get an LPEG. They're literal wastes of money.

If you're asking me, look for an AK in the CYMA CM04X series. Personally, I recommend the CM045 krinks since they're small, fairly well balanced, and have plenty of internal and external parts to buy and use to upgrade your gun. If you want a longer gun, any of the other CYMA AKs would be great. Evike tends to have the best prices on them.
http://www.evike.com/products/51016/
http://www.evike.com/brands/70/

>>1244572
>Seriously suggesting A&K or APS
Please leave.

>>1244670
Speaking of A&K, I was going to pick up a PKM soon. I heard that a lot of people modify the box mags in some way, is this true?

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>>1244670
got the m249 mk2 for years before i sold it,it worked fine,only one field breakdown when the feed got stuck and i had to de attach it
and my modified asr110 is a tough gal,she snorts out bb no problem,so i'm recommending those based on my own experiences

>>1244656
when I said ACM I meant All Chinese Manufacturers, like JG, CYMA, etc.

151 is grossly high for that model, and when I check, that rifle doesnt apply for the discount codes.

Heres a CQR
http://www.ebay.com/itm/KWA-M16-CQR-Mod-1-AEG-/331841355879?hash=item4d43494067:g:5~wAAOSw1DtXH7uC

>>1244670
>Front-heavy and difficult to work on though

This guy is right, I've owned four different brands of M14s and the external parts dont translate 1 to 1 like the majority of AR AEGs, but CYMAs along with their MP5 series are also good, the Full metal ones mind you, not the LPEG they sell. Going to the M14, you'll want a KAC style rail mount to put on fancy tech too.

I'd stay away from anything with a polymer folding stock clip, like the ones that ACRs and Gen 1 SCARs use.

Honestly the soundest investment would be an AR platform

>>1244689
the reason why I'm looking at all kinds of things isn't a special snowflake desire, I just want to get the best AEG I can for the least amount of money.
I've been looking at these two.
granted, they're used, but what the hell.
http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/spo/5481152606.html
http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/spo/5531580448.html
also if there's anyone in/around ABQ that would like to show me some stuff or meet somewhere, I'm down.

>>1244688
also for anyone thinking of getting the a&k m249 ,try alternating between using the box mag and m4 mag,it'll jam less when you do that

>>1244715
The issue I have with the Thompson is you'll Ben crewed down the road if you want More mags or want to add a basic RDS, I have no idea what the OEM of the AK could be so I can't tell you more, I'm a strict US weapon user. I'm sure some of these other guys can tell you more.

>>1244725
>Ben crewed

I'm on my phone now, but yeah Be screwed

>>1244715
>I just want to get the best AEG I can for the least amount of money
CYMA CM045. That's the beginning and end of it. $125 for brand new steel V3 gun with a strong aftermarket presence and a reputation for being rock solid. You will not find a better gun for the price.

>>1244689
I really don't know if pointing him to Ebay for beginner rifles is the best idea. For newbies who can't tech, it's better to go for a gun that you can at least return if it comes in DOA. Plus, I'd be wary of buying any R-hopped gun. It does more damage if it's improperly installed in the first place.

>>1244736
great man, thanks.
what about that AK I posted?
would it be worth it to check it out?

>>1244742
No. That's a plastic AK of unknown make and reliability. I wouldn't trust it unless you were willing to tech it. Heck, even then I'd only consider it for its loaner gun potential. You want something of good quality on a budget, you should get the CYMA. It'll give you the best long-term reliability and best platform for repair and replacement parts.

Silly me and my typos. It's late, I should sleep.

>>1244047
They ripped you boyo.

>>1243681
Okay, then make fanning excluse to SA.
There are a couple of SAA, but one of them doesn't tolerate fanning, and the other looks like a toy.

>>1243102
Except for a hop-up unit, I believe.
Also from what I've seen it comes a little bit close to dog-shit because of the engravings that yell CQB REVOLVER 6MM CAL and other shit like that, but yeah, I'll keep an eye on them.
>>1243660
I'll get one, most likely, I'm really curious if it's as good as it looks on the paper. I really hope the low FPS version doesn't go over 350 fps anyway like my KWA gun, because from what I've heard the power down shells give the same output

>>1244715
>ABQ
Heisenberg?

Did some housekeeping on the newbie FAQ. Realized I didn't have anything on eye/facepro and changed the fine details of gun recommendations.

>>1244799
I know someone who owns one. Out of the box it was shooting under 200fps with the low power shells, but it was mostly because the hop-up was set for the 400+fps of the High Power shells. Once he adjusted it and broke it in, it was shooting up to a joule and no higher.

>>1244812
Great, then I'm set on 715's for now. How about accuracy and overall quality? It really seems like a perfect airsoft revolver, but there's gotta be a catch somewhere.
There's no 4" or 2,5" version (yet), right?

>>1244812
wait a&k and aps are actually shit for aeg?
man i must've lucked out for getting the decent ones,sorry for recommending it

>>1244820
I couldn't tell you that. The guy loves his ASG pistols though. Across his whole team, the only ASG pistol they DON'T own is the CZ75 Pre-B that I own.

>>1244821
Externals are pot metal, internals are a throw-up. For the asking price, there's often better quality M4s. But if you NEED that LR300 cheap or a bright red gun, they'll do the job, just know you're overpaying for it.

>>1244826
Really? I've seen Tokyo Marui fanboys, or Cyma fanboys, but ASG? I thought it's like Umarex or Cybergun. I own a couple of their things, they made a really nice pistol rail flashlight I like to use, but I couldn't name any of their guns other than Dan Wesson revolvers and I've been more or less into airsoft for over a decade.

>>1244849
Well, DW revolvers are at least up to spec, and most of the other ASG pistols are KJW OEM besides their STI 1911 Tac Masters, so it's not like they're SOL. I should probably mention that they don't own any of the nbbs except for the CZ75D. I was exaggerating just a bit.

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>Recommending A&K and APS

This thread disgusts me.

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>>1244876
well,a&k mg don't disappoint as far as i know

>>1244637
You should use LiPo batteries. But if you absolutely need an 11,1 volt LiPo to run your gun, there's probably something wrong with it.

>>1244608
If you aren't using V2 gearbox, it's better to use something harder than sorbothane since the sorbo will compress a little on impact which will change your AoE to worse by a small amount. I'd also suggest you to superglue the rack down to your piston.

>>1244929
MGs are pretty much the only good things A&K makes. Their ARs are okay, but their QC is all over the place.

>>1245052
Their SR-25 seems decent but I've heard of people getting lemons
If you get an A&K just buy it from a retailer that allows replacements of lemons

>>1245056
Or, you know, just do what any sane person would and don't buy a chink rifle if you're not prepared to fix and upgrade it.

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>>1244278
Anyone?

>>1244278
>>1245170
Small things like pistol grips and charging handle levers should fit fine. Only external part I wouldn't be completely sure about are stocks since I don't know if WE M4 buffer tubes are Military or Civilian spec.

>>1245056
>decent but I've heard of people getting lemons
A&K V2s in a nutshell.

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How are rifle is fine -memeniacs able to live with themselves when this monstrosity exists?

>>1245311
>monstrosity
But thats sexy as fuck.

>>1245311
Whats wrong with it?

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>>1245311
>folding stock
>keymod rail
>aftermarket muzzle brake
>"M-MUH RIFLE"

дypaк

>>1244278
The BAD Lever is the cheapest solution to that.

Because it simply cups around the bolt release it should fit. The alternatives are all at least twice as much as the B.A.D.

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>>1245311
Russian SF are making the world a better place, one rifle at a time.

>>1245345
Don't forget the Western optic

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>>1245311
i wouldn't mind having that except for the tan colour

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I need a slavaclava.

>>1245498
get those chink ones at aliexpress,they usually dont charge you for shipping but it'll take a while

>>1245311
I'm more interested in that rig. Any idea what it is?

>>1245355
>>1245196
Well that's the kind of parts I was thinking about.

I already have a nice stock, grip and handguard, but I'm in need of a new bolt-release, and possibly a new mag-release.
Probably a new trigger-guard too.

Basic parts like those would likely fit on most ordinary AR gbbs then?

>>1245563
Gunfire has some chink plate carriers with similar style.

>>1245563
Odiin H-Minus.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-light-Tactical-Chest-RIG-made-of-Hypalon-Coyote-brown-/321966307002

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>>1245617
Whoops, that's Odinn. It seems like a Russian copy of the BFG Rackminus.

>>1245599
Absolutely.

>>1244286
On the description it mentions that the bolt catch actually functions, as in you put in a fresh mag and it won't fire until you press it?

>>1245636
It probably means the fake bolt locks back so you can access the hopup. Only PTWs have the whole empty mag thing.

>>1245644
Yeah probably

>>1245311

they were never rifle is fine memeiacs they were just hardcore slavaboos.

Muh Russia fast helmut and multiscam Putin Stronk

>>1241984
Nope not really, just a case or closet that's lockable.
Still shitty tho

>>1245743
Nah poorfags were the ones who perpetuated that meme

>>1245743
A hardcore slavaboo would know TIER 1 OPERATORS in Russia who don't have to use their shit non-magnified optics all buy Western optics, or clones of them and cover their guns with rails.