/asg/ - Airsoft General

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More like HATO

Almost first again for flecktarn still best camo

>>1097732

Will anyone want to play with me if i go out and buy a gun? Or is it kind of something you have to have been doing your whole life & you'll be useless unless you know what you're doing? They just opened an airsoft shop near me and the stuff seems cool but the people seem deadly serious about it (& kind of autist)

>>1097732
>NATO
>Posts FSB Alfa
xaxaxa spasiba

>>1097743
Дa дa Cyкa шлюхa

>>1097741
You can pick it up quite quickly. Granted there are some nuances that take a good long while to learn, but it shouldn't be too bad. On the autist part well...it happens.

>>1097741
I'll play with you desu
DFW?

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>>1097741
Just have slightly matching kit. Try and go for a certain look.

I'm sure as you play you'll either see kits or start to think of kits you want to emulate.

>>1097741
I'd say ignore this guy:>>1097755
For now at least. Just show up and borrow a gun from your site. Shoot some dudes, have a sense of humour about it and try to make some friends. Then you'll know if you like it.

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>>1097743

>>1097732
Feed Me More !!

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>>1097763
But looking cool is half the fun.

Yeah to be honest just relax and rent a gun, play some rounds. It'll be fun.

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Is it worth it?

I kind of want to get the wood one.

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>>1097772
See pic related

>>1097774
Though I agree, for a first couple of games, it's worth just showing up and getting a feel for it. If they don't like it, then there's probably not much point in investing in any gear.

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>>1097780

>>1097789
That's all there is anon. As far as I know there are no more ruskies using AR varients. The story for these two is that a member of Alfa used it on a range day, but it's a locally produced AR varient that belonged to him. It was a one off. Supposedly some of the M16's and M4's that were captured in the South Ossetia invasion were taken back to the training schools to show Russian soldiers what the US and their allies use. One young soldier is quoted as saying "I would never think about picking up an American weapon after that". This is all third hand though. the OC is on red alliance and it took me forever to find it. You'll have to sauce it yourself.

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>>1097797

>>1097744
XAXAXA ДABAЙ ДABAЙ

post some good gameplay videos

>>1097920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIPWeHeWzgY

>>1097937
Thats not good nor gameplay

>>1097778
Performance level bad :^(
Aesthetic level supreme :^)

Do it.

>>1097964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpDmwPoJiiQ

Lee Barney must die.

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>>1097975
Who?
>>1097920
B A S E D U G A N D A
https://youtu.be/1JABdS-HN5A

Anyone familiar with Red Dragon brand Eotech knockoffs? Im considering their 553 and G&P 551 for my gun. I have ACM one that I do not know of what brand and the reticule is barely visible outside when sun is shining so I'd like to know if they are even worth it compared to an aimpoint replica?

>>1097920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9vBRFFPCPQ

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thoughts about m240b vs pkm

>>1098187
both impractical as all fuck. dont

>>1098203
PKM is the only russian MMG in airsoft senpai

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>>1098203
isn't that what all true warrior strive for

>>1098210
I know but still its not really as cool to run around with an LMG like that in airsoft. its going to be a glorified house ornament after a few games. trust me
>>1098214
I used to think the same. USED TO

>>1098187
It's doable but you got to make your loadout light as possible. Especially for extended ops.

>>1098222
i've been to protracted milsim with my rpk and m249 before,are mmg going to be a big step up from those?

>>1097920
Me and my bros showing kids who's the man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QNg3G2ewAA

>>1098243
>what not to do: the video

>>1098187
I've only handled the A&K PKM, but I know IRL the 240 is heavier. I borrowed the PKM for a full woodland game day, and I had a great time, so much so that I'm seriously considering purchasing one.
I played on the frontlines with my usual shoot'n'scoot playstyle (though with more suppression), and while I would probably have been less tired had I been using my m4 as my primary the effect on my performance was slight. If you are very weak/out of shape I would not recommend it, but anyone with a reasonable level of fitness should be fine.

>>1098243
The most cancerous part of these kinds of vids are that the people doing this don't think this is bad sportsmanship at all. I've gone to pickup games to find kids with bolt actions, so I swap out my P* for my SVD and have fun countersniping them rather than just blandly lighting them up.

>>1098228
Well it depends really a rpk is way lighter than the pkm and m240b, i recommend wearing light gear ie a backpack with bbs and batteries. Play more overwatch and keep squadmates close.

>>1098243
Meme tier video lol :^)

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>>1098243
What a bunch of basic bitches.

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>>1098243

>>1098243
Can we put the speedsofters in camps with the promise of P*'s and dye masks?

>>1098214
The most hated kid will be the one carrying the LMG in the squad. Make from that what you will.

>>1098243
>How to be a cunt the movie

>>1098220
>>1098203
>>1098496
If you're playing a Milsim game then any machine gun is great. I find the A&K PKM outranges most other guns stock and with its 5k round box mag you'll never run out of ammo. HOWEVER if you treat a GPMG like you would any regular gun (LMGs too for some of them) you're going to kill your back. They are more a deploy and suppress rather than high speed brrrrrt guns. In fact you want your rate of fire to be low enough that you can constantly suppress positions or take out an exposed squad in an instant without wasting 90% of your shots on the first 2 guys you're shooting at. As a result you do need a dedicated support gunner to cover you as you deploy. They're fuckloads of fun and I've taken out multiple squads within 60 seconds before due to bad positioning on their end as well as defensively held down lanes against fire teams trying to directly assault my squads position. Long as you treat it as such you'll go home with an intact back.

>>1098243
From what I heard, they were apparently doing one last game and were trying to get banned for some reason.
Still doesn't excuse them for being absolute shitcunts though.

>>1098530
For the PKM I also have these tips
>DONT SHOULDER THE GUN WHILE STANDING
>Fire from prone with the bipod deployed, kneeling with the box magazine resting on your knee
>If you're fucked and need to GTFO from the hip relying on spraying and praying rambo style. The last technique is the absolute worst possible scenario where you need to move and suppress simultaneously and your squadies can't cover you properly
>Cradling the gun close to your core while footslogging is the most comfortable position and puts the least wear on your arms
>Put the gun down whenever possible to save strength for day/2 day long games
>Carry a full amount of rounds in the drum, 3-5k on you and have your assistant gunner carry more for you. In fact if you have multiple small bags of bbs have everyone carry a bit for you.
>Belt rig, pants, upper body clothing, kneepads and headgear are all I recommend along with some painkillers of your choice in case you're not used to the PKM/overdid it
PKMs will kick your ass but you can be the lord of the battlefield should you respect the PKM and realize its weight.

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For PKM guy:

Smersh PKM pouches are the best option for carrying your ammo. Either get a rig proper or just buy the pouches, you can jury right them onto the chest rig of your choice.

Expect to lay on your stomach a lot.

>>1098552
The buttpouch of a SMERSH also has ample room for BB storage though its not as immediately available as the side pouches. I've used that to purely carry bbs before and it works out well due to the fact that reloading is not that often for a 5k magazine

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Is there any other AEG that takes Tokyo Marui's recoil series AKs74u magazines?
Pic related.

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>the people itt

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>>1098641

>>1098640
Nope. TM Recoil Shock mags are exclusive to TM RS guns..

>>1098641
NYET RIFLE IS FINE COMRADE XAXAXAXAXA

>>1097937
what kind of blowback is that and where can I get one?

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Finally got my comms sorted. Seems that the issue was the PTT, 'parently RS Comtacs don't play well with re-pro PTT's so after buying 2 re-pros, bit the bullet and got a RS U94 converted for Kenwood 2 pin. Works flawlessly.

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>>1098535
>>1098510
>>1098424
>>1098398
>>1098391
>>1098387
>>1098359
>>1098261

>>1097920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hr9tHfHnf0

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Does anyone make larger magazines for the G&P 870?

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>>1098742
You got your (You)s for the week son

>>1097763
Would I be laughed at if I came to my airsoft field looking like a firefly from TLOU?

>>1098755
Why would anyone want to handicap themselves with such a piece of shit?

Hey /asg/. How do you keep in shape for your activities?

>>1098882
I lift, mainly olympic lifts. I also walk everywhere instead of driving. It's good enough for me for milsims which require strength and endurance. Although I should probably look at tiloring a fitness program to it so I can perform better.

>>1098755
Yes
A&K makes 40 rounders

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>>1098854
I don't skirmish, I plink.

>>1098967
Is pic related the ones?

I think they would be a bit easier to handle for reloads, and it'd look kind of neat (even if they would realistically be silly short for a shotgun magazine, holding maybe one or two rounds)

>>1098771
I laugh at the guys that come in full bdu's and plate carriers for cqb. I think everyone is laughing at everyone a little bit and if you wanna cosplay go ahead. What is the worst that could happen? Someone disses your outfit while playing pretend army man or cosplaying someone from the division?

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>>1099049

>>1099049
Well I can understand all the gear for CQB because it minimizes damage to skin and some of us want to show up to work without welts everywhere

>>1099070
You can still protect yourself and not look like devgru.

>>1099049
I wear the same stuff when I play outdoors/milsim/CQB. Muscle memory and familiarity with my gear helps my performance.

>>1099019
Yes

>>1099092
You may not look like devgru but youre still wearing a non-minimalist amount of gear.

>>1099049
>what is muscle memory
I usually wear flannel and jeans instead of camo for CQB, tho

>Wearing camo for cqb

You guys realize that shits useless in cqb

>>1099143
>wearing camo for airsoft
You realize that shits useless in airsoft ranges.

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>>1099152

>>1099175
Oh please link us a vid of your camo working perfectly well because you're balls deep in some thick bush

>>1099183
Not being seen is just as much about movement and being where the enemy least expects as camouflaging yourself.
As long as you use appropriate color sets and patterns to match your environment it's easy to blend in.

>>1099183
>airsoft ranges
>cheap airsoft guns can easily reach 150ft

Kek i wear jeans and a shirt

>>1099183
In my experience at Red Dawn it was easier to see the civilian clothes team than it was anyone with camouflage.

>>1098709
>peltor
>with a baofeng

Nigger, what the fuck are you doing?

>>1099103
I have no problem with that. My original point was live and let live. Don't feel that you have to justify your gear choice to strangers (especially ones on mongolian cave painting forums)
>>1099120
I never said I didn't understand the purpose of muscle memory I just think that sometimes our choices in gear are not exactly for completely function purposes like their real life counter parts were made but rather for stylistic reasons.

>>1099221
Oh, of course. Aesthetics are the backbone of airsoft.

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>>1099230
A E S T H E T I C S

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Why haven't you carved a stock out of wood for your dream BASR dear /asg/erpers?

>>1099279
Oh hai Somalian man. Are you the Captain now?

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So my money's on Chinkcore being the next hipster thing to do once slavcore is mainstream
We're starting to get more chinese pattern guns anyways

>>1099301
Chinkguns are too rare and expensive. Besides, I don't think anything is going to overthrow the guccicam "special" forces kit.

>>1099304
>Chinkguns are too rare and expensive.
Thats almost the whole point of hipsterism
Also that Chinese digicam

>>1099309
Is it even possible to get surplus gear from a government like China?

>>1099312
There has to be as many corrupt Changs as there are Ivans lying around. Give it another 5-10 years once the Chinese economy starts to plateau and it will flood the market.

>>1099317
I fucking hope so ;_;

>>1099312
When i was in hong kong there's a store selling a lot of cold war era stuff and some modern military as camping gear. This was a couple a years back so I don't know if they're still selling it.

Is there any guides on clothing,vests,carriers,gear etc?

Yep.

S'called the "Internet".

>>1099345
meant for
>>1099345

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>In production AR-18 never

>>1099345
Depends on what you want, budget, and if you're going for a specific 'look'.

>>1099345
There's a fairly rudimentary one in the newbie pastebin, but gear is very personal. Some gear all up only to use a single high-cap mag, others use minimalist kits to rock only the mags they carry and a dead rag.

>>1098552
how bout dat dere m240b,now that i heard /asg/ opinion i'm set out to buy both the m240b and pkm,might even get the m60 in the near future too

>>1099382
General Purpose Machine Guns will get you fit

>>1099049
same, these milsimfags make me cringe. I just get my tec-9 and my trench coat. Works well for a day of cqb

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>>1099304
>>1099301
Cold whur niggas. That's the next one.

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>>1099406
Maybe late 80's cold war/gulf war shit

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>>1099414
I can do Gulf war.

>>1099430
>You'll never get to blow up Russian tanks with your West German allies in Berlin while listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-O3kYrDPbI

>>1099439
I wouldn't want to blow up comrades tanks, is not american tanks. But maybe keeping the american pop music.

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>>1099441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mlUSI5-Jhk

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>>1099183
>>1099189
>>1099152
A lot of fields divide teams by camo colour. Having a unified kit on makes it easier to distinguish which side you're on.

Also it's not about being invisible. It's about not being immediately spotted. Someone taking an extra 1/2 second to identify you is 1/2 second you can shoot them.

>>1099304
>>1099301
There's a Tai guy at my local field that runs a Type 95 and some super special Tai(?) spec-ops pattern nobody has seen before. He looks cool as fuck

>>1099568
Thai or Taiwanese

Tai is not a people

>>1099572
Thai my nigga. From Thailand.

>>1099566
These guys are fucking invisible

>>1099566
>>1099580
Took me a while to see the forth guy.
Shame about the backpacks beeing too bluish.

>>1099566
If it's an OP, yes. Sides will have a uniform requirement.

Skirmishes usually use tape to distinguish teams.

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>>1099593
No. Fields around here distinguish by camo colour nigga did you not read all the words I wrote? I'm not asking a question I am stating a fact

>>1099588
I didn't notice they had backpacks until you pointed them out.

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>>1098147
I got this one, said it was an EOTech 556 but it was actually an XPS3, whatever. It works great, I had another that I bought for $30 and it was shit, insane paralax and very dim. Current one works great, zero paralax, very bright. Only downside is batteries are $6 a pop but they last a while. Very good sight, pic related.

>>1099619
And not all fields do that. Every field in my area doesn't care about camo unless it's an organized game.

Hey niggers why should I pick airsoft over paintball

Can you explain Why do you Muslims like it

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Lot of pkm fags ITT: I have the echo1 verson, (a&k rebrand, I know) but I have a question. What nozzle and bearings and bushings does it use? I keep seeing places like evike say they're proprietary, yet forums say the nozzle is a V2 and the bearings and whatnot are 8mm? Can anyone shine some light on this? Also, what kind of motor is in the box mag?

>pic related
It's going to be a fun project gun.

>>1099903
No paint
I can have gats that look like my real gats
I can shoot my friends with these gats
I can go out and shoot other people who have different gats
I can play dress up
I can basically LARP with others (milsim)

>>1099903
To be honest, as an airsofter. Paintball is better in almost every way. It's just way more expensive.

Here in the states, airsoft is starting to die. Most of the old school players are outgrowing it, and the new little kids coming into it don't stick around too long, or don't actually want to get better. Airsoft peaked in 2007, but since video games no longer have guns in them that actually exist, and the kids / video game crowd can't set up their rig to match their favorite modern warfare set up, they just don't see the allure anymore.

>>1099911
>>1099912

Thank you Jews for your reasonable answers

Sounds like a lot of fun, do you play at a dedicated facility or like in friends fields/property with tons of space

>>1099917
both, basically

a lot of paintball fields let airsofters play there

there are some that are indoor cqb, there are some that are fuckhueg fields with abandoned buildings

>>1099919

Have you ever had any injuries from airsoft I've gotten fucked up in paintball

>>1099917
I used to play with friends in the woods near our houses when I was around 14-15 around 8 years ago. Once HS started, we all kinda went different ways. Plus, cops and stuff started getting called and put a stop to us.

Now I play at an actual field.

>>1099921
played paintball before, too, so can confirm

nothing really bad, just welts and a scab or two on where I got hit on bare skin

there are videos out there on airsoft injuries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwehAHvYoKI

>>1099921
Not me personally, but I've seen teeth get knocked out and some people get bloodied up pretty well in spots where skin is thin. It depends on the range and FPS mostly.

The worst I ever got was in cqb when some kid hit me in the hand with a shotgun. I can't figure out how or why, but it bled a lot. By the time I realized, the gun I was using looked like a murder weapon it had so much blood on it.

>>1099919
>>1099923
>>1099921
>>1099927


Not going to lie I can't here to shitpost

And now I'm looking up airsoft info

What have you done to me

>>1099932
Welcome to a life of degenerative faggotry

>>1099932
What info do you wanna know? I'm sure someone here could help you find what you're looking for. I work for an airsoft / RC car shop, so I can help you out as well.

>>1099936
First you like airsoft, then you start browsing /asg/, and then you start liking traps, and then you are the trap with a glock up your butt. It's the only way.

>>1099938
Then before you know it, you're sucking dick for .25 money and using .2's anyway.

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>>1099940
This

>>1099940
Soon your gun is from the G&G pink line, loaded with pink BBs, and an LGBT flag is strapped to your back and you're using a dildo for a foregrip.

>>1099937

What weapon should I start with

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>>1099950
Depends what you like. The "g&g combat machine" and the "redstar" Ak's seem to work well before they shit the bed.

The red star Ak's tend to shoot kinda hot out of the box, so you'll be forced to use it outdoor more than likely if you play at an actual field. But they're tanks. I've built up a few custom ones In my day.

>>1099946
>and you're using a dildo for a foregrip
this is genius. time to make some tacticool retards mad

do flat hops actually increase range or just give better groupings? Im hearing conflicting opinions and would like to know for certain

anyone here run a "tactical" / modern AK? what are the best ones?

>>1100148
>What are the best ones?
Can you rephrase that into a question people can actually formulate a useable answer to?

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>>1100148

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>>1100148
The 100 series is the best IMO

>>1099390
>tec-9 and trenchcoat
schoolsim?

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>>1100155

Anyone here tried out either the JG M16 or Sig 552? I know they're plastic but I'm interested in their performance.

>>1099954
Don't bother with the Red Star AKs, they're rebranded CYMAs with Madbull buckings.

>>1100148
E&L make pretty solid AK

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>>1100148
At one time

>>1100186
What brand/model is that?

http://www.evike.com/products/40037/
Thinking of grabbing this as its cheap and I don't own an AR. Any comments?

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>>1100148
>what are the best ones
The ones you build yourself

>>1100148
200€> Cyma CM040 series
200-300€ Force Core
300€< E&L / LCT / Sers / G&G

>>1100190
Externals are solid. Classic army internals historically aren't. It's a good platform for upgrades.

>>1100190
Looks like an ok rifle but are you sure you are ok with the full stock, handguard?

>>1100197
I like early 2000s ARs so I can remove ragheads in Iraq with my squaddies while listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPsFVTPm1qc

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>>1100202
>>1100197
Essentially I want to go with this aesthetic

>>1100203
Fair enough. I prefer the retractable stock solely for when I do cqb if you are going for a look more power to ya.

>>1100205
I've got my pistol for corner clearing and the CQB fields I frequent often have 50-100 foot engagements over open areas. Not too worried about minmaxing my CQB experience

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>>1100203
>>1100202
Best aethetics

High speed taco pouches and bump helmets are gay as fuck

>>1100221
BEST RESPEC THA GROOMIN STANDARD BOY

>>1100138
I too want to know this

>>1100227
2nd'd

>>1100188
It was a red star vmg ak74 I converted to an ak103. I think the number was cm.047 or something like that.

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>>1100150
>the sako patch.
Mildly jelly

Is there any company other than guayguay that makes AK5s? I've heard some issues about G&G's build quality on theirs and I don't give a fuck about internals because I'm going to turn it into a hosegun anyway.

>>1100237
I don't think so. It's unfortunate, because those look really cool. I think some shit level company makes an AK 12. Might be cool to gut and make noice

>>1100237
Nope.

>>1099906
Bumping for halp

>>1100138
Tighter grouping which results in longer effective range.

>>1099906
Open it up see for yourself,

My friends just told me that we are going to play our very first airsoft game this weekend.
The thing is none of us except 2 guys have any gear at all. We going to check some airsoft stores to buy stuff and I want to know the most basic stuff that I should get to play.

Replicas
3-4 mags
Chest rig
Sling
Goggles (I have a pair of security goggles used for work I guess that should do the trick?)

That's all I can think about. I wasn't planning on buying fancy clothing since I have a pair of desert boots and I can wear jeans and a t-shirt or something.

>>1100275
Goggles need to be ANSI rated and full seal
I'd say rent guns before buying

>>1100275
Before you go shopping online, look for a local surplus store, or even an actual airsoft shop. If you find nothing,
>Evike
>AirsoftGI
>Amazon

Also, if it's this weekend, you're gonna have to pay out the ass for shipping that will get to you that fast.

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>>1100292
I don't know if PPE goggles are ANSI rated, pic related.

>>1100301
I didn't plan on shopping online, mostly because of what you said about the shipping. Chances are I'll buy a second hand replica and get whatever gear I need from a shop. That's why I asked for a list of Airsoft essentials.

>>1100310
I doubt it

>>1100337
>Eye and face protection must comply with the American National Standards Institute, ANSI Z87.1-1989 standard if purchased after July 5, 1994
I guess that settles this.

Now I want to know if it's worth buying http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/1655-gandg-airsoft-combat-machine-m4-raider-full-metal-gearbox-aeg-rifle.aspx for 160$ with 6 mags.

>>1100268
>longer effective range
but not just straight up range though?

>>1100347
Combat machines are decent
That or Cyma AKs

Are you playing indoor or outdoor?

>>1100361
Open field.

>>1100366
You're just playing out in a field?
That's gonna suck dicks

>>1100366
Hmm
Whenever you buy bb's get .25s
And I'd get a cyma AK but you do you

>>1100368
It's not a field with nothing, obviously. I meant that it was a open field but not outdoors as in a forest or similar to that.

>>1100370
>And I'd get a cyma AK
I might as well do that. Everyone in this thread speaks highly of CYMA AKs.

>>1100382
Make sure it's an 040, 048, or an 050. Those are the good CYMAs.

any cheap GBB pistol recommendations? Just want a cheapish sidearm

>>1100395
KJW glock. Its about 50-60€ iirc. Works fine.

>>1100395
Define cheap.

>>1100403
less than £100 / $130 ?

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>>1100148
My built. Can't say its the best at all because its quite heavy and a shorter foregrip would be nice.

>>1099906
I think the nozzle is slightly longer than a standard v2. By slight, I mean you need calipers to measure it. Hundredths of an inch. The bearings are 8mm. Most guns don't use proprietary parts like that, as it costs them more money to set up the machines to make something new for only one type of gun. Mass production is key.

>>1100407
KJW KP09 (Basic Cz. 75) or P-09 (Cz. 75 Duty), any of KJWs 1911s, KJW Sig P226, Stark Arms/VFC Glock, used KWA USP.
Those are all at or below $130 here in Burgerstan, but they might be different there.

WE makes dirt cheap pistols, but their quality is sub par. Cheap metals that are either brittle or soft, poor fit and finish, and a reputation for things going wrong fast.

>>1100401
>not recommending a used marui mk23

>>1100424
I've had a wetech hi capa last longer than a marui high capa.

>>1100424
Thanks for the help.

>>1099049
You got to wear a plate carrier or something, else cqb will blow your nipples off.

>>1099152
I hear this shit all the time, and each time its retarded.

Does anyone know what the deal is with the gun that BO Manufacture are releasing soon?

Is it supposed to be the same as what Real Sword were working on?

All I know is it is magnetic something, long battery life, priced around €400, and isn't HPA.

>>1099205
My Adidas hoodie only camouflages me in Russia.

>>1099770
Is your area your parents backyard?

>>1099912
Airsoft is dying? When did this happen? Paintball must be a corpse on strings then.

>>1098220
>>1098203
>>1098496

>obviously doesn't milsim

>>1100425
>No-blowback.
>Sounds like a lady-fart.
Not my cup of tea I guess.

>>1100240

AK12s aren't Swedegat though

>>1100576
Maybe he thought the AK5 was Russian.

>>1100465
I work for an airsoft shop in California. The whole industry in the states is slow. At least that's what the distributors have been saying. Do you think places like GI and evike are having so many sales?

>>1100275
>our very first airsoft game this weekend.
Just rent some shit at the field.

>>1099912
>>1100610
Nah airsoft's maintaining if not gaining popularity from what I've seen. The reason why sales are slow is that the main burst of cheap chinese guns has slowed down and a lot of people are usually set with just 1 gun. Another issue is that there aren't many options outside the G36/AR/AK that have been expanded upon which means that people aren't going to buy yet another M4 or AK unless they like collecting the guns. This concept of Airsoft peaking at 2007 is ridiculous as its still gaining players at a constant rate, just with fewer and smaller sales due to most buying one cheap gun and being content.

>>1100734
Another thing is that after 1500 dollars of airsoft gun spending I'm uneasy about buying any new guns as I have what I want. Many older players are in the same situation as we have nothing new to really want especially if we run HPA rigs.

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>>1100148
GHK!

>>1100734
I think his point is still pretty good, new players have no gun. Although just because guns aren't flying off the shelf doesn't mean people have stopped playing.

>>1100846
You got to look at the second hand market too, I'm sure there's more transactions made on the used airsoft market

>>1100718
Fuck no, I know I'm going to like it and I rather buy a replica for 4x the price of the renting.

>>1100846
Moreover, if anything drives down players, its the lack of fields to play at. Case in point, one of our local free community fields shut down due to the land being sold off. All those players, despite other club/pay fields being around, seemed to just disappear. I suppose some are still kicking, but alot must have dropped out.

>>1100860
Very true, I always check ebay first when looking for a new weapon/gear.

Cybergun's P90.

Yay or Nay?

>>1101047
>Cybergun

Avoid it. The two good P90s are the King Arms (meh) and the Marui ones. IMO the Maruis are way better but they cost a bit more.

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>>1101047
Spend a little more and get the King Arms one. It's either that or spend almost $100 more than the KA and get the Tokyo Marui.

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Anyone got a FN 5-7 to screwdriver converter?

>>1101070
>>1101076
>Check TM
>379€
>Check KA
>cheaper but still expensive as fuck
>consider shipping stuff from USA
>120$ just in shipping
Fuck Europe.

>>1101094
Do you guys have JG P90s over there? I've heard that those are actually pretty good.

>>1101096
I can see JP category on a few sites but not the P90.
The only one I've found is on Ebay so far.

>>1100563
> doesn't want great efficiency
> doesn't want few moving parts
> doesn't want to be stealthy at night games

>>1101094
Cyma makes a p90. I think they have them on Gunfire. Don't know if they are good enough though.

>>1101228
I just saw it, actually.
I think I'm going to start buying whatever fucking brand I want. I think the whole "DON'T BUY THIS THING" is a 4chan meme anyways because I've used supposedly shitty replicas and worked just fine.

When your are playing airsoft do you ever imagine your opponent's are niggers or Muslims and just enjoy shooting them all

>>1101241
Mostly I just think of airsoft as a game that I enjoy with my friends and never put any of those thoughts into it.

>>1101251

>I'm a sane, socially adept and well adjusted person

Then why are you here anon

>>1101235
Saw some review of it on youtube. There is one version that comes with a longer outer barrel that you can screw of. Could be something to invest in if you want to upgrade it with a longer inner barrel.

>>1101235
don't be so foolhardy,i was one of those people once and bought an ICS that broke down during the first time i was in the field

>>1101241
i think myself as an ice cream truck and all my enemies as competitor desu

>>1101264
Define "broke down".
Because some of you people talk of shit weapons 'breaking down' as if you are shooting pellets and the weapon suddenly starts getting disassembled. And for the record I've played with a ICS M4 and had zero problems with it.
Worst case scenario Gunfire has 12 month warranties on all their products.

>>1101278
your own experiences does not discredit multiple complaint that is leveled against them
my lcs motor was jammed and since repairing them is tough task i have to put on a heavy face and ask my buddy to lend me his spare m14

>>1101283
>your own experiences does not discredit multiple complaint that is leveled against them
That argument works both ways, you know.
The fact that people are more vocal about their problems than the people are about their no-problems means jackshit and discredits nothing nor no one.

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Who /Clash/ here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii9UKxgaUkk

>>1101315
Looks like fun, too bad I'm on the beast coast
Also why the Trip pham its not needed

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>>1101347
Its like right in my backyard, pretty much no trip

>>1101350
He means why are you using a tripcode you shitter, there was no need to identify yourself for that post

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>>1101353
Because I'm shilling

I need a g36k to complete my bundeswehr loadout

What do I get?

>>1101401
What's your budget?

>>1101411
No budget limit. I'm planning to gut it to HPA, though.

>>1101425
Former HPA G36C user here. Make sure you get the Fusion Engine. I had a lot of problems with my SMP.

>>1101484
Damn what kind of problems? I am planning on getting the Inferno so I can swap AK<->G36

>>1101505
CYMA AK gearbox shell didn't fit my SMP, and with the G36, I had fitment issues with the gearbox going back into the pistol grip. Eventually the selector plate wouldn't engage on semi, but would fire on auto if the gb was fully tilted back and out of alignment.

FEs can be switched between V3 gbs, so either a G36 or AK would work, you'd just need the different nozzles.

Decided to get a shotfun
Got a Cyma CM350 full stock short barrel, 12 extra shells and 4k rounds of .20s for 86 bucks.
I've lost control of my life

>>1101315
Why are the wings gone behind the parachute, they should still show up since the thing is made out of fucking strings.
2/10 would not look at again.

>>1101556
You don't get alignment issues with the drop in systems?

>>1101595
I haven't heard of any.

>>1098187
>tfw guy in your squad uses an lmg and doesn't give enough support

>>1101268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bPvc_kZAg0

>>1101909
hard fucking core

>>1101094
Gotta love how barely no one stocks marui anymore in EU. And if they eo thei sell them ridiculously overpriced

i need help, i fucked up

>>1102133
what did you do

>>1102133

Did you accidentally

>>1102135
yah, i was fucking around with my motor height screw trying to see what it sounds like when its too low and it fucking fell out

>>1102136
>>1102135
it wont fit back in how do i unfuck this

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Slapped a new sight on my gat. I wish I could find a RIS fore end on Yurop for this because this regular one is TOO FAT to be hold comfortably.

>>1099220

Most of my team uses them and their just cheap. I mean, yes, i could use a AN/PRC-152 but they cost a ton and you aren't allowed them in the UK. Radio licencing and all that.

So a modified RS U94 PTT works fine

>>1101315
Get that trip up your ass, fucking cunt.

>>1102160
F2000 looks p boss with an OD/camo lower.

>>1102160
Generally not a fan of optics that aren't replicas of real ones, but that fits really well with the F2000.
I still need to get myself one of them before G&G stops making them.

>>1102327
If you do, make sure to install FET and do the semi-auto fix on it. Mine still sometimes locks up on semi, but not so much as when I got it out of the package.

>>1102327
But how can optic not be real when it is on the gun that is real?

>>1102160
Looks like a Pike

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All my bbs are flying to the left after 100 feet, what do? I'm using .28s. They gun in question is an apex r5 and has a rotary hop up

>>1102990
Check your hopup nub and make sure it's straight. Also flat hop.

>>1102990
Id straight up change the bucking and ckean the barrel, then check barrel alignment

>>1102990
Most likely the barrel is twisted a bit too much to the left causing the hop-up spin to lift the bb left. dial hop up to zero and test shoot it. Can also be shitty bucking

>play shit load of Rainbow Six Siege
>overwhelming urge to build CTU loadout
I'm thinking grey clothes, black PC/belt/helmet etc. I'm erect at the thought of it.

This is my first loadout ill be using an M4 for, what's the best brand for both externals and internals?

I hear good things about Krytacs

>>1103273
Krytacs are brilliant quality guns. I have an SPR and a CRB, they're both easily the best M4's out of the box I've ever seen.

The only bad thing is availability - they're low in stock or sold out everywhere near me.

>>1097732
FEED ME MORE
FEED ME MORE
FEED ME MORE

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>>1102990
Is it windy outside?

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r8 my plate carrier

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>>1103611

>>1103523
>How is babby formed

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>>1103617

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>>1103629
>>1103617
>>1103611
generic/10

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>>1103273
I've posted my shit ten times, and I'll do it again.

This is pretty close to what you would be getting, sans the black rig. Judge for yourself if you want to go for tactical grey. Prepare to pay out the ass though for it, there's very little replica grey kit around.

who lives in OC that wants to drive me to SC village this weekend i hate driving

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>>1103781
>$210 hoody

>>1100236
>GZA
Muh nigga,
The last time I went airsofting though was Crossfire 4, the first time they had it there, I head bad things about the other 2.

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>>1104067
>>1100236
Heres a pic to show I'm with it,
I recently picked it up again because an underclassman back from ROTC got me looking at it again, dropped 220 on an EBR, and called it aday. Too bad the damn thing has issues with literally every mag besides the one it came with. Also I got a Steel flash hider and a 4inch barrel extension coming into make it look like a M21A5 Crazyhorse, too bad its the day after spring break, thanks evike.

>>1103611
not bad, anon

>>1104089

We've probably payed side by side before, nigger....that Helmand patch tells me you've been around for a while.

So I got a few rolls of fabric in various camo patterns for cheap and I have no idea what to do with them. I'm think of giving it to some tailor to make some products and sell them locally. What do you guys think I should make with them? I'm thinking hats or ponchos.

>batteries wont arrive because easter faggotry

REEEEEEEE

>>1103273
Bandit best loadout, or IQ but I don't have dat ass

>>1103611
Wtf is that and why does it look like dogshit

>Levelcap gaming says hes done with airsoft
Thank fucking god. Sponsorships must have run out with him

>>1104393
Jesus Christ that guy was annoying. Turning any hobby into a job must be annoying as fuck. You'd eventually grow to hate it. Take it from a guy that runs airsoft games.

>>1104394
He and some of the other big Youtube celebrities that make a big thing of them playing the game turn cancerous from what I've seen. Guys like Airsoftology who just want to talk about airsoft for a job rather than play it seem to be really chill guys as they make their passion for the sport their job rather than actually playing it.

Would the CYMA CM039C be any good as a first gun? The metal CYMA AKs seem to have a decent reputation here, but I'm not sure whether all of them are good or not.

>>1104410
Get a CYMA 040x series, do not het anything below that

>>1104414
How come? Bad internals?

>>1104418
Better everything, it's their most modern line. CYMA has updated many guns.
No regrets for real.

>>1103781
Yeah that's similar. I was going more for BDU'S, Helikon (polish company) make wolf grey ACU/BDU's for a good price so I'm okay on that part. I know they can be expensive though

>>1104366
I'm going for a Jager loadout first, but next on the list is Sledge.

>>1104221
Depends on the pattern
If its UCP or m81 I wouldn't even bother

WE or TM glock?

>>1104152
Once or twice probably, whats this I'm hearing about GMR playing here now?

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>>1104493

TM Glock, IMO. I have the 26 and its fantastic, Lots of upgrade parts for then AND they take WE parts, like the CO2 mags for example (just upgrade the nozzle and nozzle return spring first)

>>1104576
Nice, second question: Gas Mags or CO2?

>>1104584

I live in the UK and green gas (even red) efficiency sucks cause of the low temperature. So i use WE Co2 mags. Though, if you do want to do that with a TM, you need to upgrade it with Nozzle, nozzle spring, steel/aluminum slide and so forth as TM's are built for HFC and are plastic slides as standard.

>>1104590
I live in the UK too, just south of Glasgow. As far as i'm aware it seems like Co2 is better because of the temperature, but the pistol would be my first GBB so i've no idea about maintenance and upgrades etc. I could easily maintain it through watching a few YT videos, but upgrading stuff isn't something i'm comfortable with yet.

>>1104593

Fair enough. WE's are probably a good bet then as you can just buy the CO2 mags straight up and run them.

Could I use AK-47 type mags with a 74 and vice versa?

I'm struggling to find mags for my new AK, all I can find is high caps for 47 types. I don't want hi caps, and I don't use a 47. It seems like the sellers are implying they'd fit a 74 as well - is this true?

>>1104597
Awesome, thanks for the help.

From what I hear the WE Glock isn't much worse than the TM, and if worst comes to worst I can just sell the WE (ALWAYS people looking to buy glocks at my site) and buy a TM when i'm okay with upgrading.

>>1104600
I'm not entirely sure, but the mags are differently shaped so i'd say no. Could be wrong.

>>1104600
Some mags fit. CYMA AK mags are universal, they'll fit almost any AK rifle.

I know the pain dude, it took me a fucking age to get mid caps for my AK. Hell, even mid caps for my M4. 90% of sites sell about 2 types of mid caps that're shit and the rest are Battle Marracas

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>>1104600
In real life, no. In airsoft, yes.
Keep in mind that if you use 7.62 mags in anything other than a AK-74M or AK-105 then it will look farb as fuck and Slav Pros will call you out on it constantly.

>>1104630
Where are you located? Evike had tons of AR midcaps last time I checked.

>>1104632
>7.62 mags in anything other than a 74M

Is this a typo? 74's don't take 7.62.

>Slav Pros will call you out on it constantly.
I don't even give a shit man, the lack of AK74 mags on every UK based site i've looked on is fucking horrendous.

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>>1104640
In real life they don't, but you can put 7.62 airsoft mags in airsoft 74/105s.

Either way if you're in the UK then you won't get much shit from slavsofters, they're the kind of people that run commercial gear with new gen Smershes and claim it's an accurate kit.

How do you silicone spray a mid cap?

Just spray it down the part where bb's go in or take the spring out and give it a squirt or two?

>>1104693
Why would you? you just get slippery BB's that will not work properly with your hop-up

>>1104693
>How do you silicone spray a mid cap?
You fucking don't.

>>1104693
I do it this way:
>disassemble them bitches
>throw the halves in the dishwasher
>let them niggers dry
>grab some dank ass silicone spray, spray a drop or two into the BB slopes
>take a brush, spread that shit thinly

Works like a charm for me, no slippery BBs for me, and butter smooth feeding and operation. Way better than thick ass grease.

>>1104600
Taiwan Gun if you're in Europe.

They're poland based, shipping to the UK was £10 for me for an order of just over 40, they stock a LOT of Cyma products, including their AK mags which are top notch. Plenty of mags for both 47s and 74s in Bakelite and Black if you're using a 74M.

The only bad thing is that their descriptions are awful. Their customer service is exceptional and whoever runs it speaks good english, they just clearly don't get the same person to type the item descriptions.

LCT LCK74 or Cyma 048?

Cyma is £130 plus shipping, LCT is £199.

>>1104723
LCT, trust me.

Are the Cyma MP5s any good? Been thinking of getting an MP5 Replica of some sort for a SWAT outfit.

>>1104719
Getting to buy cheap chinkshit form Poland is one of the only benefits of EU. Retailers here have to jack up the prices because 6 month warranties

>>1104666
God I'd kill myself if I was forced to use airsoft weapons with an orange tip.

>>1104576
mlady *tips*

Can someone explain the differences in voltage and MaH to me?

Rifle i'm buying has a recommended battery type of 8.4v 1300mAh. If I were to use one at say 1500mAh would it matter very much?

>>1104749
For simpletons. Voltage=how fast your gat shoots mAh: how long you can keep shooting without running out of fuel

>>1104744
It's good. I wouldn't buy their guns but Cyma make good AK mags.

I don't buy cheap chinkshit anyway, anyone who does is begging to have their gear shit out on them.

>>1104753
So essentially I want as high a voltage and mAh as my rifle can fit in the battery storage?

>>1104755
Higher voltages will increase wear on the gearbox. Shouldn't matter much if your gat is upgraded.

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>>1103611
BROTHEEEER!

>>1104746
They're only really necessary for sale and it's recommended transit.
You can have them without the orange tip at home or at a field.

Why do bongs need to have their guns painted a different colour?

>>1104779
It's the law. VCRA (violent crime reduction act) says that anyone without a UKARA defence needs to have their airsoft gun painted 51% a bright colour.

UKARA (United Kingdom Airsoft Retailers Association) defences are things that make you eligible to buy a non bright coloured rifle (a realistic imitation firearm). Airsoft is one of the accepted defenses, but you need to become a member of a site to use that as an excuse. This means you have to attend 3 games in more than a 2 month period to get your membership, then you can apply for the defence. It's a guaranteed issue if you meet the requirements.

It's shit, but retards trying to rob shops with airsoft guns ruined it for us all.

>>1104782
That's pretty gay, but to be expected. At least there's always a market for the two tone guns so you can always sell yours on to someone else without a ukara thing when you don't need it anymore.

>>1104787
Technically there's no law against someone with a ukara license buying a rifle for someone who doesn't have one. Under the VCRA it's not illegal, so people tend to grt a friend to buy it for them.

I got my friend to buy mine for me and he dropped it off at mine when it was delivered. 9/10 there's always someone who's willing to buy it for you for like £20 commission and game marshals at most sites can vouch for the trustworthy ones.

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What do you guys think of my load out so far? I'm changing over from Multicam to a more PMC tan load out. (Still need a pack for my PC, my pistol holster and sliding stock for my MP5 but it's almost there)

>>1104801
>generic tan plate carrier loadout
original bro

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>>1104801
>>1104765
>>1103611
We sharing now?

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>>1104801
Almost SAS/10.

I like it, looks comfy.

>>1104824
>mixing multicam and UCP
>using UCP at all

maybe we are sharing but I wish you hadn't

>>1104828
Oh cmon man, we do it all the time in the army.

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>>1104824
>that vest
>those pouches

>>1104832
No-one cares it looks horrible

UCP is dogshit

>>1104827
>SAS
>MP5
this isn't 1980 and this isn't the iranian embassy siege, SAS and SBS ditched MP5's years ago. MoD outfits them with mostly SBR's if the situation requires it now, but they've ordered MP7's as well.

>>1104842
Roger, I'll go unfuck my uniform

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>>1104842
IT'S STILL THE 80'S TO ME