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snel

>>2432428
Nice snel

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Schneck

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OI, I'M THE OP ROUND HERE, M8. FOK U THINK YOU'RE DOIN IMMA HOOK U IN THE GABBER M8, SWEAR ON ME MUM

nah, but it's cool. ONly thing I'd advise is to let eh thread hit around page 7 before starting a new one. /an/ is a slow burner, so we can still stick around for a bit after bump limit.

>>2432437
We need more snel love on the board, plus the discord invite from last thread was dead. No worries m8.

>>2432078
Just a pair of chinese mantis. They were in a large terrarium and he was able to spend the night without trouble, I airlifted him out first thing in the morning.

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>>2432442
K. I'll keep it mind

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Does anyone here own both the Nicaraguan and Honduran forms of B. Albopilosum? Is there a significant difference? I'm trying to figure out which one is the floofiest. Pic related: one of my floofs

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I was visited by a very tiny visitor the other day.

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>>2432484
I have no idea but if you want maximum floof you need Avics (or ex. Avics) my friend

>rehousing 3 inch B. vagans
>it goes towards my hand instead of the new enclosure
>it touches my hand
How close was I to getting bit? No threat posture, but moving pretty quick.

>>2432541
Brachypelmas rarely ever bite. Ever. You're more likely to get hairs flicked on you and even that's not very common. They're very docile spiders. Chances are you just kinda spooked it.

>>2432541
On a scale of 1 to 10, about 0.

First off it was a Brachypelma, and those don't bite before trying to run away, throwing hairs and threat postuting you. Secondly no spider really bites unprovoked like that. It either would have turned around a second later when it decided it didn't like your hand, or continued and not given a fuck.

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>>2432548
Well he got onto the outside of his old enclosure and I had to use a cup and paper to get him in the new tank. I probably was more spooked than him. Thanks for the info.

>>2432551
I was assuming he was scared as fuck because the rehousing went wrong, so I thought he might be more aggressive.

>>2432555
Oh he sure as fuck was scared, but if the spider has the option to run it will (almost) always try to run. Biting is their last resort and extremely dangerous to themselves, and they know that, so they only bite if they can't run or retreat into their burrow. Running away like that there is about a 0% chance it would bite.

>>2432567
Alright, thanks for the info. Now that it's in it's adult colors, instead of solid gray, it's abdomen is pretty small compared to it's size before. Is this just because of the pre-molt period without eating or is it a male?

>>2432433
Hope its unsalted

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My 4-5" Phormictopus cancerides has refused food from an adult peppered roach to a dubia nymph since I got her in March. What is going on? It either ignores the food entirely or threat postures. The store I bought it from said they had been feeding it baby mice.

>>2432705
Well first off, I'm crazy jelly. Phormictopus is pretty high on my wishlist. But my only guess would be Premoult. I've heard these guys eat like crazy

>>2432720
Premolt for almost 4 months? She just stays on top of her hide all day now.

>>2432721
>>2432720
Also she has a dime sized bare patch on her abdomen, which i'm guessing is from flicked hairs, but I don't see a darkened abdomen.

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>>2432720
I just rehoused her into a 10 gallon with much deeper substrate. She refused food again so hopefully this will promote a molt. She is a P cancerides, right?

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>>2432750
Better picture

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>>2432750
Looks like one from the pictures I've seen. And it may not be in pre-molt, that's just the only reason I can think of it not eating if all the other parameters are met.
Pic related is P. Cancerides

>>2432757
I know that she probably didnt have enough substrate before, but she never even stayed in her hide. This was the same behavior my B. vagans displayed before molting, but for much less time.
Is room temp too cold for a molt? It should get warm in the tank in a few days. It didnt stop my vagans.

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>>2432760
Room temperature is fine for pretty much all T's to my knowledge. All the lower temps will do is make growth rate slower. I'm sure you know this but 4 months without food is nothing for T's, that thing could probably last a year without eating if Rosie's are any comparison. So I'd just keep offering every once in a while and it will eat eventually

>>2432763
Yeah, it's just I don't know how long it's been since it truly last ate, because the pet store didn't tell me. Her abdomen doesn't look that swollen compared the picture, so I don't know.

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>>2432494
if there was ever a T that could be described as kawaii this would be it; that being said I must have one

>>2432775
Carabina Versicolor is on my wishlist too desu

>>2432765
It's abdomen is still nice and plump, it'll be fine for a long time friend

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Hierodula Venosa L6 (or L7, dont remember)

Anybody have any interesting DIY enclosures? I've been making these CD case ones for juvenile Ts. The first two I made looked like shit but I'm getting better and faster at assembling them

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>>2432799
forgot pic; work in progress

>>2432801
Nice work bro i think it'll be good idea to attach any net and create special mantis box for small species

>>2432804
For sure; building the lids can be tricky with lining up the hinges and lock. I also plan on using some 1'' round aluminum vents on the top or sides for ventilation

>>2432808
You gave me a nice idea, need to do same at home for my mantids

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Another spider ID post.
I can't tell if this is a grass spider, a hobo, or a wolf spider. Found in Washington state on pavement at night. In the suburbs. It's probably about the size of a penny. Can I keep it in a "critter catcher" with holes on the top with openings about the size of the width of a penny. Thank you.

Where in Washington

>>2432836
Looks like a wolf spider to me

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Anyone wanna help ID?
Definitely neuroptera, but not quite a lacewing and not quite a mantidfly.
No clubbed antennae, so not an antlion or owlfly.
Im stumped.
Location is Virginia beach, Virginia

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>>2432844
Everett. Can I keep it in this thing? Or will it escape?

>>2432848
>Definitely neuroptera
nigga that's an ichneumonid wasp.

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I recently got a starter colony of blatta lateralis and found this stuck to the bottom of the enclosure today. Is it an ootheca? It's about the size of a tic-tac.

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>>2432864
Yes.

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>>2432866
fucking finally

It's been over half a year since I got it and my 6-7" S. subspinipes hasn't molted yet. Does it normally take this lont?

>>2432848
Looks like Netelia producta or something closely related.

>>2432871
At this size expect a molt about once a year to a year and a half. Also they don't get much larger than that.

How much are you feeding it?

anywhere I can review laws on owning beetles? specifically for california?
I'm not expecting much but I'd like to know if I can at least have Grantii, ox beeltes, or elephant stags

>>2432899
Really? I thought they grew to 11" or so. I try to feed him once a week, but he runs away from the roach, so it's actually every 2-3 weeks.

>>2433006
A lot of people like to exaggerate the size of their pedes or spiders online because the think it makes them look cool.

Most S. subspinipes forms get to around 7 to 8". A few that were considered subspecies once and are mostly seen as separate species now like S. dehaani get a bit over 9". The only pedes that even approach 11" are S. gigantea and S. galapagoensis, both of which can get to 12" max, but rarely do in a terrarium. Anyone claiming sizes larger than these is full of bullshit and usually won't provide any solid proof.

Also how big are those roaches in relation to the pede? I know feeding them large stuff is fun but feeding separate smaller feeders is usually better. They should eat quite a bit more than a tarantula too. Do you let the roach in over night? Because they usually won't eat during the day unless they're really hungry.

>>2433009
I always feed at night and offer usually a ~1-1.5 inch dubia or hisser. Ran out of hissers so now exclusively dubias. I thought he should be eating more as well.
Swiftinverts, who I bought from, said they grow to 10", so I guess he's wrong.

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>mfw my Tapinoma Sessile queen went from one nanitic to 6 in a week

SLOW DOWN YOU DICKS I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FORMICARIUM YET

>>2433046
The 10" probably comes from the time when Scolopendra dehaani was still considered a subspecies of S. subspinipes (even though dehaanis don't get to 10" either, 9" being the max). But like I said, people like to exaggerate these. Normal S. subspinipes size is 6" to 8".

What day/night temps are you keeping the pede at? It should eat more imo, but maybe the roaches are just very fatty and nutritious. I would try switching it up with adult crickets for a while. One cricket a night every 2 nights is a good amount for a pede of that size.

>>2433164
I guess that's a good thing he won't grow larger, as he can't reach the top of his tank now and I want to ensure he never can.

I keep it at room temp, but it's warmer in the tank due to the humidity. I don't keep crickets because I don't want the noise. The roaches are always very fat.

I'm getting frustrated with my Avic avic sling. The thing will only take food with wings and it's to small for blue bottles and too big for fruit flies. Also I will occasionally kill food and just leave it on it's web and not eat it. It has only molted once in my care over an entire year.

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>>2433268
Sounds like terflies are a fitting size for it then.

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>>2433272
Thanks for the suggestion but they are still a little big for it. I'm currently relying on these long legged flies that are pretty easy to catch.

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Extremely rare appearance by my S. longipes (formerly alternans). Apparently this guy DOES get bigger than 7".

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>>2433369
Better picture.

>>2433369
>>2433371
>VERY fast centipede burrowing at incredible hihg speed

>>2433326
Where the hell do you BUY dolichipodidae?

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found a little friend in my garden today, rip in piss japanese beetles

>>2433382
>pretty easy to catch
>easy to catch
>catch

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>>2433378
I gave him barely an inch of substrate, so that I could see him better, but he still manages to be completely hidden almost 24/7.

>>2433396
Very common mistake.

The more opportunities to hide you give your animals the less they will use them. Yes, I'm serious.

They do come out a lot more when they feel safe on the surface because they have an intricate burrow system or a bunch of hides to retreat to.

>>2433404
He already has a large cork bark hide and he has quite the extensive burrow system already. It's only a little less than my S. subspinipes has and he is out on the surface constantly? Should I raise the humidity?

>>2433413
Not necessarily. Try giving him some leaf litter to slink under and between, mine really like that.

If he still doesn't come out he might just be like that.

You can also try obersving at night with pure red light (LEDs). I'm sure that pede actually does come out a lot, only that it's probably very nocturnal.

>>2433369
You should call it sergeant longpipes

>>2433415
This is his current setup. I kept him in my basement prior to today, so I never had a chance to observe him much. But, when I went downstairs to retrieve roaches for my other inverts, he was never visible.

Any tips? I don't want to add to much to allow an escape attempt.

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>>2433424
Forgot picture

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>>2433422

>>2433426
>I don't want to add to much to allow an escape attempt.
Do you not have a lid? I mean he will get through any sort of mesh, but if you have it only in the center he wouldn't be able to reach it.


>Any tips?
About triple the substrate, a much flatter hide (he will create his own room below it) and some leaves. If you get the whole escape situation figured out also a branch or two for him to climb on, they like doing that.

Also what are the actual temperatures he gets? Room temp can mean a lot of things. Basement might be too cold.

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>>2433441
Aw shit, they can chew through mesh? I might have some bigger problems. Can they get through this and the other tank im going to post in a second. I have things weighing them down.

Also, yeah I moved it upstairs because I felt the temp might be too low. I just dont want to put in too much because I don't want him able to touch the lip.

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>>2433445
The first has a layer of clear wrap in between the top and the tank itself. This one has the wrap on top because I can't get it to fit in the tank. I have the sliding top pinned against a wall so there is no way he's pushing out. I just don't know if he can get through a crack or chew through the mesh.

This is all hypothetical as I don't think either can reach the top.

>>2433445
>>2433446
If either of them could have gotten out that would have happened already. Actually in the same night you put them in there probably, they are masters at escaping. And yes, they could make short work of both of those meshes.

The best way to house them imo are plastic boxes with drilled holes, or glass terrariums with the opening on top.

Temps should be around 24C/75F for them btw, slightly less at night but not below 20/70, but also not more than 30/85 for longer than a few hours.

>>2433471
I thought centipedes dissolved their prey, didn't know that they also had chewing mouthparts, or is that tarantulas?

I have no idea how I would ever rehouse them, seeing how quick they are.

That's about the temp I keep them at.

>>2433471
Also can you show an example of a glass terrarium with a lid on top? I thought thats what the second was.

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>>2433476
>didn't know that they also had chewing mouthparts, or is that tarantulas?
Did you ever look at your pedes? Or inform yourself about them at all? You sound like you have no idea how to actually care for them and the only reason they haven't escaped yet is just sheer luck.

Also the enclosure with lid on top should be the first thing any good care sheet tells you, because they get out of almost anything else.

>I have no idea how I would ever rehouse them, seeing how quick they are.
That's how you know you're not ready to keep a centipede. Do me a favor and actually inform yourself, and then come back to ask any questions you still have. I'm not gonna answer more stuff you should already know and have considered BEFORE getting a fast, venomous animal.

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>>2433491
Why are you so upset, nigger? I know how to take care of them, but I want to glean as much additional information as I can. If I felt like I couldn't control them, I wouldn't have bought them.

>>2433387
oh i thought you meant easy for your spooder to catch.

>>2433491
in the Berenstein universe they only have one modified leg fang-thingy, the other is tiny by comparison and useless and there's an asymmetry kinda like with fiddler crabs in that regard. My entomology books changed when i shifted

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>>2433057
They're a fast growing species. You can probably expect at least a few dozen workers by the time hibernation rolls around. After that they'll easily explode into the hundreds.

>>2432916
anyone?
when I google it and find a page on exotic ownership in california it goes through everything except for arthropods

>>2433497
>I know how to take care of them

>I gave him barely an inch of substrate, so that I could see him better
>they can chew through mesh
>didn't know that they also had chewing mouthparts
>I have no idea how I would ever rehouse them

No, you do not.

>additional information
This is not additional information, this is stuff that every husbandry guide tells you right away. You're completely clueless.

>If I felt like I couldn't control them, I wouldn't have bought them.
>I have no idea how I would ever rehouse them
So which one is it?

I heard that box jellyfish have like 24 eyes? Is this true? And if so, can OP explain how it works?

>I know I could probably just google but oh well

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>>2433761
1. Was reccomended less substrate by dealer.
2. I knew they could and didn't want to seem like a cunt know-it-all.
3.Same thing.
Sorry everyone else isn't an autistic faggot like you.

Anyways, i'm going to the store to pick up some rubbermaid containers to rehouse them in this week. That would work, right?

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>>2433828
It is. Their eyes even have lenses, but they do not produce pictures. They help coordinate swimming behavior and enable them to avoid obstacles. They are quite good and active swimmers as far as jellyfish go.

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>>2433848
I'm not the anon you were talking too, but wow, you are a dumb cunt.

>2. I knew they could and didn't want to seem like a cunt know-it-all.
are you fucking autistic?


>>2433761
>>2433491
this guy is right
you clearly did not research enough beforehand.

>>2433854
>they do not produce pictures
what do you mean?

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>>2433660
Yeah, I knew they were fast, but I guess I didn't plan ahead enough. I should have the formicarium here before they reach that magic 25-30 number. I got their outworld done, and was considering dropping the tube in there so I can give them some carbs and sugars, but as this is my first colony I'm not sure when I should start feeding them.

Speaking of hibernation, the weather here goes from 80-90 during the day to around 60 at night. I don't have a garage to put them in - what would you recommend I do for them when it reached that time?

>captcha: KILL FRANCIS
Whoa captcha, calm the fuck down

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>>2433867
>i'm not the anon you were talking to

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>>2433867
I had a feeling they could and kept my enclosures with a lot of empty space for a reason, nigger. Forgive me for trying to sound interested.

Clearly I knew enough that they haven't escaped or died yet.

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>>2433961
>Several people don't agree with me? Must be a samefag!

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Guys, we've gone this far without drama. We don't need it here. Kiss and make up and move on

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>>2433961
believe what you want

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>>2433967
>>2433975
>no other replies until the other guy gets hostile

>>2432916
The problem isn't owning them, it's importing them.

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>>2433972
How much would it cost to get you to attempt to kiss an OBT?

Name your price, /an/.

>>2433879
I don't know exactly what he meant by that but I imagine its that box jellyfish don't have brains, they react instinctively to raw sensory information while our brains heavily interpret our visual information and make assumptions about the world around us.

>>2434091
Well, not only are we looking at extensive mechanical damage on the lips, but eight to twelve hours of ungodly pain after wards, so that's 200 for the day of pain, plus whatever it costs to get fixed up, probably around 200 more dollars.

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>>2433898
You should already be feeding them at this point. Give them a dead housefly or small dead spider about once a week, along with a drop or two of sugar water. They're a meek species, so they may not take the food at first.

Regarding temperatures, try to keep them between 75-85° most of the time. T. sessile love heat and will grow faster because of it. When hibernation rolls around, you'll want to put them somewhere that will be consistently between 45-55°. A repurposed wine cooler is considered top notch, but a minifridge or something similar would work. Just make sure you check the temperature first so you don't kill the colony by accident.

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oh my god I need a tank full of these right now

>>2434143
Okie doke, will do. Thanks.

just measured milo about 30 mins ago, he's about six inches! wow, never realized h was so big...

>>2432610
Post molt the abdomen will be smaller.
Size isn't a good indicator of sex. You want to look at the molt or at the ventral side of the spider (with limited accuracy) to tell the sex. If you Google tarantula sexing there are some guides. You may even be able yo get side-by-side ventral photos since vagans are common

>>2432750
Just make sure it has access to water and remove uneven prey items after a day.

Generally if you "overfeed" a tarantula it will have a longer fasting period before a molt. If the store was feeding it mice that is probably the case. Unless the abdomen is shrinking there is no reason for concern

>>2432720
Get one then. P. cancerides are pretty common. Usually can pick up wc females for pretty cheap

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whats this i can't get a good picture but its abt 3 inches from leg to leg and looks PISSED

>>2434963
im in socal and my shop is full of these

>>2434963
I dont know, maybe you should put a brown filter on it so that it can blend in better

>>2434963
that´s definitely a reindeer

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My local store has heaps of Antilles Pinktoe slings
about the size of a pinkie nail. I bought an 8x8x12(high) for an adult a long time ago but never got around to it. Any spider peeps here that can attest to the rewarding feeling of raising a sling? Never had one before.

>>2434964
Well they clearly don't sell cameras at your shop.

>>2434984
It's a great feeling when everything is going well and a horrible feeling if you fuck up. Slings are just more fragile than adults, and Avic (or ex. Avic now) slings are famous for dying suddenly. So much that the term "sudden avic death syndrome" became a thing.

That however turned out to be due to people keeping them way too moist and with not enough ventilation. Once that mistake was corrected it turned out raising them was relatively easy. Still not the most bulletproof slings but not as hard as many online resources still make them out to be.

So I'd say go for it, and do it right and it shouldn't be a problem.

That you (and probably the pet store too) are using the common name instead of the latin one worries me though. Do you have any experience with tarantulas? Also you do know that you'll need smaller enclosures for these slings, right?

Also if the store only gives the common name for the spider probably means they're overcharging for them.

>>2434990
>>2434984
I have currently have 2 tarantulas, formerly 3, all started as slings and it's been a mixed bag.

My first was a B. albopilosum sling for $5 I got on impulse. It was rewarding to raise and impressive to watch it grow suddenly at molts. Though it's taken a long time, its only slightly over a 3" leg span after three years.

I also have an Avicularia avicularia sling I got for $15 at the size you mentioned. It's honestly stressing me out because its only ever molted once in a full year now meaning it's even slower growing than my curly hair. I think I'm doing something wrong but not wrong enough to kill it.

I had one bad experience with a sling and it's entirely because I fucked up. I had a Hapalopus sp. colombia sling, then the thing darted out when I opened it's enclosure to feed it and never found it again. Don't be careless like I was, even if they aren't dangerous the little slings can be fast.

>>2434990
To clarify. The store labels EVERYTHING with their scientific name, my using the common name is just my own inexperience. They're a huge specialty store for my area and I (mostly) trust them.

They were about $30 - $40 each which seemed consistent online from my minimal google searching.

No experience with any spiders, just Leopard Geckos and Aquarium fish but I want to dip my toes into it.

I know they need smaller enclosures for a long time. They're currently inside condiment saucers that you'd get at restaurants. Figured I'd upgrade it though gradually larger deli cups as they grew.

Any specific advice or recommendations for feeding/enclosures through various growth stages?

>>2434998
>They were about $30 - $40 each which seemed consistent online from my minimal google searching.
That seems very expensive to me, but I'm from europe and inverts are a lot cheaper here. How big are the slings?

>No experience with any spiders, just Leopard Geckos and Aquarium fish but I want to dip my toes into it.
Avics are usually the recommended spider as the first arboreal spider you should get, but not as the first ever spider you get. Arboreals can all be fast and skittish, they can easily run up the sides of any container and they can all jump. Having some experience with general spider behavior prevents escapes or other mishaps with them.

Also slings are always more sensitive than adults or juvies, and also a lot more skittish. I'm not saying you shouldn't get one but I am saying you should also consider some different options.

In my opinion it's best to get a juvenile of one of the typical beginner species as your first spider. You quickly gain enough experience with one of those to move on to more advanced species and/or slings. However if you really want to start with an arboreal spider an Avic would be the one to get, and C. versicolor is probably the best one of those. You'll have way more spiders soon anyway, trust me.

Read this and watch the video (he actually suggests C. versicolor in that too): https://tomsbigspiders.com/2016/12/31/the-best-tarantula-species-for-beginners-revisited-video-version/

>cont.

>>2434984
I enjoy my versicolor. Housed it as a sling in an 8 oz spice container before the 32oz deli cup.

Arborials do okay if you give them some extra space. So if you put it straight in a 32 you should be fine until you move it to the adult enclosure. This will minimize rehousing as well.

Because they spend most of their time in the canopy they make, a lot of people like to do an inverted setup for their slings which makes maintenance a little easier.

Keep it pretty dry or have a lot of ventillation. stuffy conditions kill avics.

Versis grow pretty fast compared to other Avics. Would recommend.

>>2435011
>Figured I'd upgrade it though gradually larger deli cups as they grew.

>Any specific advice or recommendations for feeding/enclosures through various growth stages?

You already have the right idea. Just use anything you can find that is easy to modify, closes safely and of appropriate size. Finding new stuff to turn into enclosure is actually a huge part of this hobby.

If you're going with that versicolor sling make sure to give it PLENTY of ventilation and not too much humidity. You can let the container dry out completely and only mist the net lightly every few days. Cross ventilation in any container is highly recommended. I'd go as far as cutting out basically the entire top of the container and replacing it with mesh (not metal, use plastic or fiberglass fly screen) and then having additional air holes on the sides as well.

>>2435011
>>2435012
>>2435015
btw we're calling them Avics because until recently they were still in the genus Avicularia

the revision that gave them their own genus, Caribena, is only like 2 months old at this point, so almost everyone, and all information online still calls them Avicularia

>>2435012
>other Avics
It's not classified as an Avicularia anymore. It's Caribena versicolor now.

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>>2435018
they're still Avics in my heart

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>>2435022
>tfw mycoanon
>tfw molecular biologists won't leave our taxonomy alone

I know your pain.

>>2435017
Yeah I was confused. Googling I found both nomenclatures and figured they were identical or similar enough to be of little importance. Good to know!

>>2435012
Thanks for the heads up. I'm not particularly skidish and did some volunteer work at my local zoo handling bugs and other critters as a teen. I thought about a Brachy but I'm just too captivated by the A. versicolor's....color.
Also I am not a person who needs to touch their pets so skittishness only comes into account with feeding and enclosure maintenance/movement I imagine.

>>2435029
>>2435011
meant to reply here.

>>2435018
See
>>2435017

I'm well aware of the change and have my own labels updated accordingly. But "A. versicolor care" will turn up a lot more results than C. versicolor

>>2435029
>Also I am not a person who needs to touch their pets so skittishness only comes into account with feeding and enclosure maintenance/movement I imagine.
You're already way ahead of most beginners with that attitude. Most beginners really want to handle their spider so the ones that get recommended are usually the ones you can do that with most easily. If you don't want to handle your spider you should have no problem with an Avic.

Just do your rehousings in the bathtub or put both boxes in an even bigger box. Slings can be surprisingly fast, though Avics are probably the arboreals that you can still handle most easily. When they get bigger they usually calm down a lot.

>I'm just too captivated by the A. versicolor's....color.
If you like those colors check out Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens. Another very good spider for a beginner who doesn't want to handle their spider. It's more terrestrial and builds beautiful nets.

>>2435029
I will also forever recommend getting an A. geniculata or A. brocklehursti sling as a first T. It's got colors, appetite, and growth rate for days and they're bullet proof

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>>2435054
I'm absolutely falling in love with P. irminia and I've never cared for a tarantula before. Does it seem like a reasonable option for a first time owner?

>>2435054
If you know what you're doing with other inverts I agree, but they do best with high humidity and a beginner could easily get mold problems.

Also it's really easy to overfeed them because their hunger knows no bounds and they're so fun to feed. Even I have to be careful not to do it. Oh the temptation to give my genic another cricket, so she can annihilate it, but she's already more than fat enough.

>>2435057
It's reasonable if you don't plan on handling the spider ever and are aware of the explosive burts of speed they can conjure up from seemingly nowhere. Caring for them is pretty easy.

However this is a spider that you will almost never see. They sit in their hides the entire day and only ever come out at night, and even then they usually don't stick more than their front half out. Now they will be out very occasionally, but don't expect to see your spider more than once every few weeks. Also they will instantly retreat back into their hide at the slightest disturbance. That makes them pretty easy to deal with, as they won't come out if you're putting food in their enclosure or cleaning, but it's probably rather disappointing to a first time owner.

>>2435066
Forgot to link this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDU9jsjrc2s

>>2435057

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>expand sticc

2 more molts to go for the girls, 1 more for the guys

So why can't I import beetles/millipedes from other countries. Invasive species right?

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>>2435302
More often than not, yes. Most beetles will thrive errywhere.

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>>2435307
>tfw you just want to own a D. hercules

Anyone order from here before?
http://www.pinchersandpokies.com/

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>>2435392
>selling fidget spinners in an invert shop

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Well, my P. cancerides flipped. I'm hoping its for a molt and not because it wouldn't eat. A molt would explain it's refusal to eat, though.

>>2435608
longhorn beetle

>>2435057
P. irminia are great, but as mentioned, you will rarely ever see it. I'd recommend P. cambridgei, ime they are more visible and the green colors are really beautiful

>>2435410
Looks like a molt to me. I don't think there is ever any other reason they flip. Just make sure to leave it alone for a week or two post molt. Just offer it water.

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>>2435614
Yep it was a molt. It's black now, which means a male, I think.

I think I got quite lucky with my P. metallica slings. One of them molted and is now 4th instar and now has a really nice blue underside, the yellow spots are also showing even though it still has barely 5cm legspan.

I heard that many of the metallicas in circulation now have quite disappointing colors, possibly due to being hybrids.

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>>2435883
where did you hear that?
I never heard of that before

>>2435807
nice, congrats!


Cyriocosmus are a pain to photograph.
Either they flee into their burrow or they bolt onto your hand and never stop moving

>>2435807
When you get the molt out look inside between the first set of booklungs. If there's a flap it's female, no flap is male.

I'm pretty sure P. cancerides isn't sexually dimorphic. Where did you read that black means male?

>>2435895
A breeder told me there are potentail hybrids in circulation since about 2013 that have a much less pronounced blue coloration. It's not the guy I bought these slings from btw, nor did he have any for sale.

>>2435895
They take a bit after the molt to grow, right? At least that's what my B. vagans did.
>>2435900
https://tomsbigspiders.com/2014/04/14/phormictopus-cancerides/
"A couple of the descriptions I read didn’t make them sound particularly interesting, with cancerides being described as good eaters, but fast and skittish tarantulas that mature into large 7+ inch brown females or purplish male adults."
This is all I have to go on.

I'll check the booklungs once the tarantula gets off the molt, lol.

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He's currently holding his abdomen at a weird angle. I know the exoskeleton hasn't hardened yet but is this a problem?

To the guy asking advice about the versicolor sling, it seems you just inadvertently got lucky. The guy that runs the blog we link in our OP just uploaded a guide on sling care: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CepME20ZDg

>>2435912
I stand corrected.
If he's adult though you'll see the bulbs on the Palps.
Gorgeous coloring though.

But yeah, wait to pull the molt til after it's moved.

As for the weird position, it's hard to tell if it's not normal...they can sometimes bend weird ways. If it is a problem there is nothing you can do anyway. I'd just give him water and leave him alone for a week. Then repeat.

>>2435909
That's kind of a controversial subject. Some claim they are hybrids, some claim there is a darker color form, some claim that adult females are just not as bright as younger ones.
I'm inclined to believe the latter, although I don't keep pokies.
Basically not possible to prove one way or another unfortunately

>>2435950
When I google image search for P. cancerides, the majority of pictures are black and not brown, which intrigues me.

>>2432493
I keep finding those all over my back yard. RIP tomatoes

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>not getting your buggo his playground
>they will never know the thrills of going down a spiral slide

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>>2435973
>bug playground
>one true bug in the picture

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>>2435978
>One

LITERALLY multiple bugs.

>>2435992
Ah, I missed the one on the words, but can you count the same picture used twice as multiple bugs?

>>2434878
Gonna be at the KC Reptile expo on the 30th, if I see any you can bet I'll snag one or two

Are there any inverts that would do well in a 8x8x12 enclosure other than tarantulas?

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>>2436444
A mantis or small phasmids. The latter would breed quickly though, so you'd have to eventually upgrade or sort out and destroy a lot of eggs(or use nymphs as food if you've got other pets).

>>2436454
I don't like mantids because of their short life span, but leaf insects seem like a good idea. Too bad I can't find anywhere in Canada that sells them.

>>2436455
Phasmids mostly have very short lifespans too

>>2436455
>I don't like mantids because of their short life span

Get something small that you can keep in groups and let them breed. You'll have a few weeks of downtime between the adults dying and the ooths hatching but that's a worthwhile tradeoff for having something that's not as boring as phasmids imo.

I'd suggest Phyllocrania paradoxa, they're probably the best communal beginner mantis.

You could also keep a jumping spider in there.

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>>2436567
Seconding the paradoxas. They are nigh indestructible and breed by themselves. They usually don't even have a downtime. By the time my females die the first hatches are already like L3/4.

What did we do to deserve such cute spiders?

boards.4chan.org/wsg/thread/1778150#p1790659

(couldn't make a decent webm with the 3mb limit here, so it had to go on /wsg/)

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Went to check on my Tapinoma queen and her burgeoning colony this morning in their outworld, aaaand their test tube was empty. The second, clean tube I was hoping they'd migrate to? Also empty.

Took me ten minutes of frantic searching to realize that they moved to the one slight crevice in the grout that I didn't smush together properly when I made the outworld. Plus side, they're out of the moldy test tube. On the other hand, I'm gonna have a bitch of a time checking colony status if I can't see the little bastards.

Was fun watching them go to town on a piece of raw beef and honey I gave them. One of the nanitics took her sweet time getting there, but when she did she gobbled half that shit down herself, then veritably sprinted back into the tube to tell everyone what she found.

>>2436618
>but when she did she gobbled half that shit down herself, then veritably sprinted back into the tube to tell everyone what she found.

CUTE

>>2435399
>go to reptile convention last week
>like 3 vendors are selling figit spinners

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>>2436629
It was adorable, she ran to each worker and then the queen, spreading the news, before the rest of the workers rushed out and attacked the honey.

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L5 already.

Are these things fucking serious?

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question on myriapods. been thinking of purchasing a couple bumblebee millipedes lately, but still not sure what they eat. some sources say leaf litter, others say lettuce and table scraps. halp.

>>2436722
What they actually eat is the fungus that grows in rotting wood, leaves and other decaying plant matter typically found in a forest.

However they will also eat small bits of other stuff to add to their diet, and they want a small amount of protein too.

They will survive for a few months on other stuff like vegetables and scraps but eventually they starve. Any source that says you can feed them that exclusively must be ignored immediately and completely.

Since the beginning of summer I've noticed a lot of jumping spiders around my house and thought about keeping some. Do they require something specific in their setup ? Does it need to be more long or high ? If anybody keep some, I'll be happy to see pics of their personal setups.

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>>2436710
Jesus, and I still have a L3 left.

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>>2436757
>Do they require something specific in their setup?
Not really

>Does it need to be more long or high?
High, and give them plenty of room. They're very active animals and they should be able to actually jump on prey too. They also mostly hang out on the ceiling.

Here is a pic of the setup for my pair of Phidippus regius. 20x20x30 cm enclosure for each and they use all of it.

>>2436786
My last one molted to L4 last friday too, so there is definitely some variation.

The molt today really suprised me though. If this is the one that molted to L4 first it would have been 12 days between L4 and L5. That's just crazy to me.

Also I'll let them all molt to L5 now and then get them a bigger box asap.

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Ayy just got my first sling

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>>2436799
12 days is nuts. I'm looking at time tables that say 17-20 days, so I was expecting the first L5s later next week.

Do you still plan to attempt a cohabitation with the Heterochaeta once they are big enough?

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>>2432427
just thought I'd drop by

So a thread on Arachnoboards had half people saying Scolopendra cannot chew through mesh, while the other half said it's possible. I know it's always wise to be conservative, but seeing how other people haven't had any problems, what's the verdict?

>>2437031
Go to bed bogleech

>>2437134
Depends on the mesh material and how much time it has to chew at it

Honestly why take the risk? There are better solutions than mesh anyway

>>2437153
I damaged the sealant on the side by accident while removing a bulge, and although it appears to be too high to reach, I don't want to take chances. Just wondering if it will hold out for one night while I prepare for a rehouse tommorow.

Can it even pull itself up with one side or even one leg on a pinpoint ledge?

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>>2437156
Forgot picture.

>>2437028
>Do you still plan to attempt a cohabitation with the Heterochaeta once they are big enough?
I will see how much room they want and how much they annoy each other first, but I'll probably keep them separate.

Maybe I'll put the males and females of both species together for some time so the males don't stress out the females when they're not ready to mate yet.

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I'm beginning to get worried.

Also every single one of these is worth like $20 in the US, lol

>>2437134
The verdict is that if it happened to one person it can happen to anyone and not to take the risk. I've seen big ones pull out silicone linings from the insides of glass tanks. If they want to get through mesh they can, easily.

>>2437157
>Can it even pull itself up with one side or even one leg on a pinpoint ledge?

Is that silicone? If so, yes, they sure can.

It might be ok for one night but I wouldn't sleep well. Just find anything to cover it completely. Arthropods don't breathe a lot, one night without ventilation should be fine.

>>2437020
Cute!

What species?

>>2437379
All right, will be rehousing to a safelite container tonight. They can't climb that right?

The top locks, but it seems like it isn't completely air tight.

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>>2437400
This is my stopgap measure. Maybe if I can get someone to make a piece of plastic with the right dimensions, it can block off the mesh entirely?

>>2437400
If it's clean it shouldn't be able to climb it. I'd still put something heavy, like a book, on the lid.

>>2437404
you can usually get acrylic cut to the dimensions you want at a hardware store, can be a bit pricey though

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>>2437405
Would it be cruel to put him in something this small? The one i'm planning to use takes up an extravagant amount of space.

>>2437411
It's no problem for a few days or a week, but they are active animals that move a lot so he should go into something bigger pretty soon. At least 2x by 1x body length for floor space with 1/2 body length of soil.

You can get plastic boxes that big for pretty cheap at hardware stores too.

>>2437429
Yeah I meant the one on top. The one on the bottom fulfills those qualities. But upper one has a great lid.

>>2437437
lol no, the top one is way too small

I use something very similar to the bottom one actually, I put a book on the lid and that has worked perfectly so far. You could keep him in that permanently if you drill some ventilation holes.

>>2437445
Alright, sounds good. Will use the small container to rehouse. Does yours have very small, like pencil width holes on the inside near the handles? Mine does and i'm thinking I should caulk them over first, even though he is not thin enough to fit through.

How wide are your ventilation holes?

>>2437446
>Does yours have very small, like pencil width holes on the inside near the handles?
Nope, but I don't think you have to plug these if there is no way for him to get through.

>How wide are your ventilation holes?
About 5 to 6 mm, can't remember what size I drilled exactly.

>>2437448
Alright, when I get back i'll take a picture. There doesn't seem any way unless his entire exoskeleton compresses, but I know they are escape artists.

>>2437386
Some kind of Australian feather leg, unidentified Selenotypus sp.

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>>2432801
Finished product; I might make a bunch and see if anyone wants to buy the best ones

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>>2437725
Open

On the topic of Ants, would it be possible to use a dirt filled tank with a mesh top for them?

>>2437728

I like mantids because of their aesthetic. So, I don't know if that would work for me, because I want something tall and skinny to show them off.

I could see that working for other inverts, though, that may need a lot of substrate.

Has anyone ever kept silverfish? idk sounds strange and uncommon but i'm interested. tell me everything, can't find shit on google

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>>2437876
firebrats are commonly bred as feeders
They are similar to silverfish

>>2437728
looks cool
kinda like the enclosures I make out of CD cases


I think, I's time for a rehouse for my C. leetzi

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This shit is getting dumber.

https://youtu.be/4fxkJoByrI4

>>2437900

No. Improving!

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I'm a fan of keeping the pupae form of rhinoceros beetles, but have some mild dislike at the thought of it smashing around against the sides of its container when it matures into an adult. I also don't like that it will probably die unfulfilled as a virgin if i only got one. Is it reasonable to send the adults by mail to someone that has the possibility to breed them into their colony or should i just discard the idea and get s'more scorps. Or do they not fly that much?

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I have an unlimited number of barn funnel weavers coming out from my walls constantly, anybody know of a way to repel them? I've read that any number of essential oils are supposedly capable of repelling them but there doesn't seem to be a means to validate the claims made and I'm a little wary of the essential oil salespeople. I basically don't want them in my bed but I don't have any reason to kill them.

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>>2437919
Adult rhinoceros beetles will stay buried in substrate most of the time and usually come out at night. They can be quite noisy and trash around in the enclosure when scratching the walls or attempting to fly but that's mostly in the first 2 weeks after getting active (Beetles remain inactive in their pupal cells for a month or two after the final molt because the internal organs still need to develop). But if you only want to keep one for the pupal stage then you might as well stick to scorpions.

>>2438004
thanks for the advice

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Hey can i get an spider friend ID?

I think it's Phidippus johnsoni but i could be wrong.

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P. cancerides looking amazing after molt. Legspan is about 6" now.

>>2438659
Actually closer to 7". What a monster.

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hey /invert/, anyone kept Madagascar Hissing Cockroaches before? I've got some coming by mail and should be here in a couple days, Male and Female pair. If anybody has any tips or pointers they could give me, it'd be much appreciated.

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>>2438677

Their future house, misted it just after

>>2438677
>>2438681
Yeah, they can climb glass, as you probably know. Feed them twice a week and replace moldy food and you're set.

However, once the female gives birth, there will be babies EVERYWHERE and they can slip through the smallest cracks. Make sure your enclosure is secure.

Reminder that Insects are Crustaceans and that Myriapods are probably also Crustaceans.

Telodeinopus aoutii escaped from my terrarium :/

>>2438744
That's what you get for keeping demons.

>>2434091
Mine or someone else's?

Can i gas it first and knock it out?

I'd kiss my b. Smithi for free lol he doesn't give a fuck.

>>2434996
Well i feel a little better about my smithi not moulting in like 4 months now at least.

Guess it's just normal for slow growers, meanwhile my gbb has grown 5 times his original size in that same time, crazy.

>>2432427
ttt

>>2434990
> overcharging for them
> overcharging for the wrong spider
Ftfy

>>2438659
Looks like he needs some good eats

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please for the love of god someone tell me what this giant bumbling bug was in my room, it was about half the size of my thumb. I live in southern quebec btw.

>>2439010
Bumblebee mimic or some kind of hoverfly

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>>2439010
woodrat botfly (Cuterebra americana)

>>2439010
>>2439016
If there is one groups of insects I'd eradicate it's botflies. They are the most disgusting insects on the planet.

>>2439010
You don't happen to have any open wounds?

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>>2439033
AY BOI LEMME SUCC DEM BRAIN JUICE

>>2438979
It's only been 4 days after molt. Going to feed tonight, though.

>>2436196
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPo8MG1pJ8w#t=40.852722

I'm waiting to see how many spiders I got on spring.

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Can anyone tell me if I should be worried about this spider bite? I woke up with ~5 on my arms, but this is the only one that looks bad.

>>2439579
>c-can we go shooting anon-kun :3

Larva ID
Live in eastern Kansas
Was using its' rear as a seventh leg

>>2439736
I can't see the picture too well, but it's probably a Brown recluse

>>2433384
cogwheel assassin bug
neat

>>2439702
>Wake up with five fucking lesions on your arm assuming you're not just imagining half of them
>Automatically assume a spider bit you five times for no reason
>Automatically assume people on a Singaporean fencing imageboard can tell you what it is or if it's serious when literal professional arachnologists, entomologists and medical doctors cannot

You're literally retarded. I hope it's skin cancer.

>>2439811
I'm assuming multiple spiders, and that I "attacked" them by moving in my sleep.

>>2439813
It's impossible for five spiders capable of biting to be close enough to each other to all bite you in a single night. It's impossible for you to get five spider bites overnight and not end up with at the very least one or two dead spiders in your bed. It's impossible for you to get a serious bite from a spider while asleep and not notice it, because unlike animals that have an actual interest in biting you, spiders do not anesthetize whatever they bite. It's impossible to determine if a skin lesion like that is even a bite at all, let alone specifically a spider bite.

I literally cannot imagine being stupid enough to wake up with a bunch of marks on my arms and no other evidence and immediately go "oh it must have been FIVE SPIDERS".

>>2439817
The other ones were all really obviously insect bites of some kind.

>>2439819
Shit, you can tell insect bites apart from random zits, skin irritations and staph infections? You better call the Entomology Society and help them with your incredible magical gift then because as I said, trained professionals can't.

>>2439822
Fuck off

>>2439817
> It's impossible for you to get a serious bite from a spider while asleep and not notice it,
False.
Ive woke up with an insect bite. After two with medication it wasn't getting better. A trip to med check informed me it was a brown recluse, and I never noticed it in my sleep at all.
A roommate was bit a few weeks later, same deal. Woke up with some kind of bite, remembered my situation and went to med check immediately. Sure enough a brown recluse bite that didn't wake him up either.
The rest of your post is probably spot on tho.

>>2439823
Don't get too angry, the five spiders living in your bedroom will smell your adrenaline and eat you.

>>2439825
Brown recluse bites are severely misdiagnosed and medical doctors aren't qualified to diagnose them in the first place. I'm not saying it wasn't one but your story's the usual really standard anecdotal shit everyone's heard a billion times.

And obviously some people will sleep through just about anything but I refuse to believe someone can get bitten five fucking times by literally any animal bigger than a fingernail and not notice it once.

>>2439826
It's possible both instances could have been misdiagnosed, for the reasons you stated.
It's also possible the both of us just slept through it.
>but I refuse to believe someone can get bitten five fucking times by literally any animal bigger than a fingernail and not notice it once.
I can agree with this as well.
For what it's worth I just used my anecdotal evidence because it's an example of the situation.

>>2439832
It's obviously the doctor's "fault" in that case, not yours, but take it with a grain of salt. I don't know if they default to it because it scares stupid people into letting it be treated or because it's easier than just saying "I have no idea what this is because you can't just look at a skin lesion and magically guess at first glance", but misdiagnosis is a really common thing and a frequent source of annoyance for arachnologists. In fact, they literally insist that it should never be diagnosed as a bite if there's no dead spider.

http://www.cfp.ca/content/cfp/50/8/1098.full.pdf

>A working diagnosis of “spider bite” or publishing a case history should be considered only when a spider is caught in the act of biting or otherwise reliably associated with a lesion. Accurate identification of the spider could be critical for correct diagnosis and subsequent treatment.
>From available case information, it is currently
impossible to propose accurate diagnoses for the four cases reported in our introduction.

>>2438677
THEY CAN CLIMB GLASS

I picked up some G. oblongonota nymphs a few months ago...having kept Dubia for quite some time I assumed escape wouldn't be an issue....boy was I ever wrong.

Basically feed and watch grow.

The guy I bought mine from suggested a small red light for basking and they seem to thrive with it.

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Does anyone else get the impression that tarantulas somehow just seem to like touching stuff?

She always puts at least one foot on her plant and now she has found the glass and she is fascinated by it.

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>>2436618
>Took me ten minutes of frantic searching to realize that they moved to the one slight crevice in the grout that I didn't smush together properly when I made the outworld.

To update on this, for those curious - after eating some honey and a sliver of beef last monday, they've utterly ignored all food since then. I expected that, since the colony is so small, but what's worrying me now is their lack of shits given about water.

I've got a test tube full of water with cotton right next to the entrance of their little hidey hole, but I've yet to see any of them actually getting water from it. I know they're smart enough to see to their own needs, but it worries me slightly.

On the plus side, colony is at 6+queen now. She's pumping em out like crazy. I get the feeling I'll be moving them into their formicarium some time in the next month or two.

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Feeding day, y'all

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Anyone know what the pinkish invert is? I don't need to know down to species level, just enough to have an idea on its ecological function. it has been preserved in alcohol so it may be a bit bloated compared to usual.

I also want to identify the brownish invert, Will post another photo of that one.

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>>2439996
The other invert. Both from New Zealand soil samples.

>>2439952
I've seen wild Tapinoma move into random bullshit places like hollow pieces of plastic, I wouldn't worry.

>>2439989
Why do people want to own so many animals but keep them in plastic boxes like that? Its like a materialistic kid buying tons of toys and storing them all in boxes. Is it just materialistic human psychology to want to OWN something that they like even if it serves little purpose? Not even a decorative purpose? At least the weeaboo fags display their plastic anime crap.

>>2439996
>>2440000
Can't say what the pink one is, but the other one belongs to Auchenorrhyncha, probably a cicada nymph of some sort.

>>2440005
Yeah i was thinking some sort of bug nymph because of the mouthpart. Thanks for the info.

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>>2440003
>Why do people want to own so many animals but keep them in plastic boxes like that?

Because they enjoy their appearance, behavior and/or the process of taking care of them and watching them grow.

>Is it just materialistic human psychology to want to OWN something that they like even if it serves little purpose?
The purpose is to bring joy to the owner, so yes.

You sound like people owning animals actually offends you.

>>2440009
>The purpose is to bring joy to the owner

Does it really? Does buying that one animal that is REALLY COOL I NEED IT RIGHT NOW really bring joy that the buyer anticipated? Then when he finds out one isn't enough, got to get more for further happiness! More more more! Cant afford housing to make the displaying these cool animals better but need to buy more animals ay.

At least this is better than mammal hoarders.

>>2440003
What is wrong with plastic boxes? They work fine for those animals.

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>>2439937
>talk to the hand

It could be a way of sensing vibration from the room the terrarium is in, idk though.

>>2440022
Not everyone is a 14 year old that really NEEDS SOMETHING RIGHT NOW. I don't know why you assume that.

>really bring joy that the buyer anticipated?
Usually the answer is yes, unless it's first time owners that expected something very different. Sadly there are a lot of those.

>Then when he finds out one isn't enough, got to get more for further happiness!
No, one isn't enough. Because they aren't very active. If you want to enjoy them on a daily basis you have to get quite a few. On the other hand maintenance is minimal, so adequately caring for them even with a large collection is trivial.

>More more more!
Get this, people even breed these animals, and then sell them, or give them away to other hobbyists for free! In fact that's pretty much the purpose of building a large collection.

>Cant afford housing to make the displaying these cool animals better but need to buy more animals ay.
There usually only are a few display animals in any collection, because most of them live very hidden. Consider the popular Haplopelmas, you almost never see them, yet people keep them and breed them.The joy comes from feeding them occasionally, and seeing them do well.

And, try to imagine this for a moment, even when people have many they genuinely care for the animals and don't see them as decoration, like you seem to do, and they enjoy the simple fact that they are taken good care of, are growing and eating.

For you everything seems to be about buying and owning things.

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>>2440035
>For you everything seems to be about buying and owning things.

Nah that is people who buy tons of these things and keeping them stacked in boxes, then jack off and feel happiness or someshit for a few seconds by dropping a prey item inside. Or getting a boner from comparing two photos of the animals at different dates and seeing that they got bigger. WOW.

Its materialistic but with living creatures. Get over yourself.

>>2439989
>Adam and Eve lube
Just go to wal-mart and use self checkout. Save $5 and shipping.

>>2440022
Shut the hell up or get out. Exoterra and Zola shills are not welcome.

>>2440038
I never claimed it was anything else. Of course it's materialistic to want to own a bunch of animals.

At least my animals actually DO stuff, and every so often I can get some money from selling offspring. The plastic anime crap only collects dust.

And don't fucking compare us to the shitty reptile people that keep their snakes in literal boxes that they can't stretch out in or exhibit any natural behaviors.

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>>2440039

>Shut the hell up or get out.

We got a badass over here who seems to be very upset about someone having a different point of view. How cute. Typical emotional materialistic human. Gotta collect em all but keep em in drawers or a box under the bed, only looking at them occasionally for maintainence. Feeling a sense of achievement just by knowing the animals are in your possession in your home and they are yours. :) Just as pathetic as every other collection-oriented human.

>>2440003
Welcome to invert general.

I am not concerned with aesthetics. Keeping tarantulas is a hobby, I often compare it to gardening. it's not "having them" that brings me joy, it is the care. I enjoy doing the maintenance and always learning how to do it better and as a result, I get to watch something grow and thrive.

>>2440038
Literally what the fuck are you doing here if keeping a collection of inverts bugs you?

Just walk away from the screen like nigga close your eyes

>>2440039
Dude. Adam and eve practically pays you to take their shit. Free shipping and gifts dawwwwwwg

>>2440048
What are you even doing in this thread?

Also imagine people have a hobby they enjoy and that they also enjoy talking about. Your hobby seems to be to tell people that you don't enjoy what they enjoy. Time well spent. You are such a wise human.

>>2440050
>>2440051
>>2440056
Just ignore him.

>>2440048
I bet you're that pissy dude who was the only person who got banned from the discord.

Butter face has nice tits tho

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....and those are just my adults and juices. How do you feel about my slings kept in a drawer? NO ONE CAM SEE THEM

>>2440055
I've had the free gifts, they're ok, but the condoms are nearly useless and when is anyone going to use throat numbing gel? That even sounds sketchy.

Then again, I'm probably just annoyed that they sold me shitty dongs.

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>>2440038
>For you everything seems to be about buying and owning things.

Nah that is people who buy tons of these plants and keeping them stacked in pots, then jack off and feel happiness or someshit for a few seconds by dropping some water or plant food inside. Or getting a boner from comparing two photos of the plants at different dates and seeing that they got bigger. WOW.

You must really hate gardeners bruh

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>>2440061
Nice juices.

I couldn't see my slings either so I got some styrofoam to build this sorta stair to put them on and now I still can't see them. Amazing.

I also always get an erection when I drop in food and then just close the thingy and put it back. I don't even SEE THEM EAT.

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>>2440061
Oh yeah?!?
I make my slings sleep on the ceiling, so they know who the boss is.

>>2440066
It's all pretty low quality...thats why it's cheap.

>>2440069
Yeah man, spelling is hard. Juvies*.

Tbh I love seeing The babies eat. They act so vicious but they're just cute lil bbs

>>2440069
That looks nice. I can't wait till my friend moves out and I can set up some proper shelving in his room

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>>2440073
Yeah I get that. Just saying that I buy my butt lube with shame st was-mart to save some bucks.

But enough personal lubricant talk, more spiders.

>>2440072
Is that a GBB? Mine does that too.

>>2440075
It's mostly the Lampropelmas I don't ever see. When I pick up the box and open it they retreat deep into their burrow and i don't throw food in their as that could scare them, so I put it somewhere else and put them back. They don't come out when you shine a light on them anyway.

>>2440076
Thankfully the photo is such low quality that you can't see how dirty the glass is. I really need to clean again.

>>2440078
Nah, it's a B smithi. Same one is on my wrist >>2440077

>>2440080
What a qt

an upside down smithi is really something to behold

>>2440083
Surprised the hell out of me. She was scuttling around like crazy too. She's always trying to attain top speed, even with the bad leg.

>>2440084
Do you keep her warmer?

My G. pulchra slings (which I keep near a heat lamp so they hopefully grow faster) are FAST AS FUCK. They climb too. And they eat like garbage disposals.

I probably should have expected it but it still surprised me. I had no idea any Grammostola/Brachypelma could attain such speeds.

>>2440086
No extra heat, she feeds and speeds at room temperature, but it's pretty hot these days. We'll have to see what winter brings.

>>2440066
>throat numbing gel
Is... is that a real thing? Why doesn't it numb the cock?

Also what are the qualities of crappy vs good dongs?

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>>2440077
Y not both?

I'm not a fan of this lube. It just gets sticky and gross. The smell is meh and it ruins oral sex because I can't stand the smell of it...let alone the smell of it AND vagina

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>>2440092
No clue, I don't use it. I mean I tried it once just to taste it. Minty.

>qualities
>Silicone = best material
but not all silicone is equal

>shape
Just a dong isn't that good. The shapes need to be good for what you're using it for, as you won't see it frequently in use

>firmness
All the stuff I had from A&E was too firm.

My advice: Bad-dragon makes a superior product, hence the superior prices. The furry aspect is weird, but it's easy to get over.

>>2440100
I mean any lube gets sticky and gross, but I find it's worse with water-based lube. Silicone-based lube is my go-to, but I can't use it with silicone products.

Not sure about smell, my sense of it isn't too strong.

>>2440056
Not him, but some people may be interested in invertebrates but not interested in keeping them as pets.

>>2440114
That's fair, however, it's kind of a dick move to come into a thread that literally says this is a place of discussion of invert things, including captive care/collection and bitch about common captive care.

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Is it fine to keep this sling in this tiny cup until a molt or two later? Or is it too cramped?

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>>2440135
This pic has a better perspective.

It's usually buried unless there's food in there.

Is attempting to handle a 7.5" P. cancerides a bad idea? Wasn't threat posturing or really responding that much when I tried to feed it 4 days after molt.

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>>2439952
Worker ants are only capable of eating liquids and consequently they get most of their water from their food. The honey you've given them is probably holding them over. I'd recommend a switch to sugar water though. It's healthier for ants than honey.

>>2440135
>>2440137
Not really enough room to molt, even now. Just get a cricket box or something.

>>2440138
I would say it is. Not necessarily because of temperament but because Phormictopus can be fast as fuck from a total standstill. Also why would you need to handle it just because it isn't eating yet? At 7" it will take a least a week to be interested in foog again.

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OG OP here
I'll hit us up with a new thread around page 6. I'll make sure to break in the new discord invite and everything, as well as any additional resources anyone has come across

>>2440145
Gotcha. I just don't like moving the tinny buggos. Too fast and tiny.

>>2440145
Handling is completely unrelated to feeding. Just noting that it's been much less aggressive compared to how it was premolt and prior.

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>>2440139
Good to know, thank you. I had already mixed up some sugar water, so I'll switch to that.

>>2440137
If that's a smaller than 4oz get a 4oz cup. If it is 4oz get a 16 oz.

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>>2439736
Fock

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>>2440267
looks like a firefly larva

>>2439937
They just like feeling up against stuff, they pick up vibrations from surfaces and feel less exposed that way.

>>2439989
Ayy man let me see that c. Cyan.

>>2440154
You can try but I'd do it somewhere where the spider can't dart under anything or fall down. Maybe in the bathtub?

I mean you probably know this but goddamn, Phormictopus can be fast as fuck.

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First subadult Haania. At least I think this should be subadult looking at the wing buds.

Also I am starting to think these might actually adapt their color to their environment. I know a lot of people think this about P. paradoxa, Hymenopus and so on and it's not actually true but these have definitely gotten greener.

I did see adults the seller had too and they were light brown, he kept them on egg carton. I keep mine on moss.