[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

Invert General

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 316
Thread images: 132

File: exquisite hat.jpg (33KB, 496x322px) Image search: [Google]
exquisite hat.jpg
33KB, 496x322px
Hat Edition

This is the invertebrate general. If you have any questions about invertebrates, want to look into owning one or more, or want to simply discuss them, this is the thread to do so, whether its

>Tarantulas and other spiders
>Myriapods
>Mollusks
>Crustaceans
>Insects
>Or anything without a backbone

Feel free to post it.

Resources/help and information

>Tarantulas
https://tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com/beginner-guides/
http://www.theraphosidae.be/en
>Mantids
http://www.mantisonline.eu/index.php?lan=en
>Phasmids
http://www.phasmatodea.com/web/guest/home

Discord
https://discord.gg/g59mdCa

old thread >>2408076
>>
>>2419258
I live in a cold climate and if the power went out and it froze to death, I would feel bad.
>>
File: IMG_20170630_084739005.jpg (2MB, 1836x3264px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_20170630_084739005.jpg
2MB, 1836x3264px
What is this guys?
>>
>>2419852
got a location?
>>
>>2419844
Do you lose power often enough for that to be a real concern?

Also how cold does it actually get in your house when power goes out? Surely it will stay above 60 degrees. They don't die instantly when they don't have their comfy 75 to 85.
>>
>>2419885
Northern Italy
>>
>>2419852
Just looks like your average cricko boy
>>
>>2419987
Yes it does. But average crickos are black here. Do you think this one's chinese or something? Also they never sing.
>>
Never mind, finally found some article. It doesn't sing because it's probably a girl.
>>
File: 2017-06-30 17.45.53.jpg (487KB, 1845x1912px) Image search: [Google]
2017-06-30 17.45.53.jpg
487KB, 1845x1912px
new arrivals

1.1 X. immanis
>>
>>2419838
I heard a lot from people triggered by these man made hats but are they harmful? Or is it just about natural vs staged photography?
>>
>>2420073
It is a drop of water. Placed on a spider. Which lives outside.

How in the fuck is this supposed to be harmful?

>>2419852
Looks like Gryllomorpha dalmatina.
>>
>>2419838
Can we stop linking the discords? Mods really need to do something because it's stealing traffic.
>>
File: 025-8.jpg (138KB, 768x1024px) Image search: [Google]
025-8.jpg
138KB, 768x1024px
>>2420125
Not many people go there anyway. And from what I hear, most who do come here anyway, though i suppose we'd need user to testify.

I was just advised to put it in the OP. I myself haven't used it, at least not yet
>>
>>2420125
>stealing traffic
The invert thread has gotten faster and faster. Our traffic is increasing.
The discussion in discord is much more chat like as well, it's completely different than here.


>>2420175
>Not many people go there anyway.
The discord server for /an/ is actually surprisingly big and active, though there aren't that many invert guys there. About as many regulars as this thread has I'd guess.

>And from what I hear, most who do come here anyway
Yeah, me for example. Though there are some that avoid /an/ now, mostly because they're fed up with the constant shitposting. Probably not the invert guys though, as our general hasn't had the awful shitflinging that for example /herp/ had.

>I myself haven't used it, at least not yet
You should come check it out, the discussion is different but also fun. Also no real shitposting.
>>
File: CIMG5573800x600.jpg (110KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]
CIMG5573800x600.jpg
110KB, 800x600px
>>2420195
what? who are you even talking about?
>>
>>2420201
Don't reply to him. It's one really awful person that got banned from the discord for harassing people that is now on an anti discord crusade. He doesn't have any inverts either, he got banned from /herp/ yesterday and now wants to shit up this thread.

These posts will keep up in about hourly intervals, ignore and report.
>>
File: 022-13.jpg (167KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
022-13.jpg
167KB, 1024x768px
>>2420204
Ah, okay then
>>
File: 1498770000979.png (157KB, 324x406px) Image search: [Google]
1498770000979.png
157KB, 324x406px
where the FUCK can i buy beetle larvae and have it ship to the us without paying a fortune?
>>
File: IMG_0220.jpg (877KB, 2186x2009px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0220.jpg
877KB, 2186x2009px
Incoming molt

Will post more as it progresses
>>
>>2420298

Unless you have special permission to import them it's close to impossible thanks to USDA.
Packages containing non-native inverts are often seized at postal offices and likely end up in a refrigerator. Try to find breeders located within the United States instead.
>>
>>2420384
;-; that fucking sucks, man
wow i guess you're fucked if you want inverts in the US
>>
File: om_Dtityus_grp.jpg (177KB, 600x394px) Image search: [Google]
om_Dtityus_grp.jpg
177KB, 600x394px
>>2420394

You can still collect and breed native beetles like Dynastes tityus.
>>
>>2420394
>>2420384
Aren't there ANY US beetle breeders?

I refuse to believe that.
>>
>>2420360
May I ask why that tarantula is on a roll of toilet paper?
>>
>>2420402
>>2420394
http://shop.bugsincyberspace.com/
http://www.bugsofamerica.com/index.html
>>
File: IMG_0225.jpg (1MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0225.jpg
1MB, 3264x2448px
One of my feeders just molted, didn't expect dubias to last so long
>>
>>2420405
It's a hide
Left it in there to see if it would use it, and it does, usually I find it on top though
>>
>>2420175
It's one autistic redditor that got btfo by /herp/ anons and he's trying to stir shit up. If you hear anyone complain about the server, rest assured it's just that one guy.

/an/cord is just /an/'s general discord server, but it has a lot of herpfags and aqfags instead of invert.
>>
File: IMG_1059.jpg (88KB, 722x1280px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_1059.jpg
88KB, 722x1280px
Hey, had a quick question. One of my more developed roaches seems to have doubled in size and completely changed coloration. They're for sure not even 5th instar because they're not hissing, so there's no way it could be pregnant right? Imo it's still too early to sex them even! Originally I thought it may have molted but I see no husk and I've been checking on them daily. Any ideas?
>>
File: 2017-06-04 08.12.15.jpg (308KB, 1602x1710px) Image search: [Google]
2017-06-04 08.12.15.jpg
308KB, 1602x1710px
>>2420551
>I thought it may have molted but I see no husk
they eat their exuvia, most of the time
they do NOT grow without molting, they just get fatter

also, sexing roaches is really easy for most species..
take a pic of the ventral side of it's abdomen, especially of the last few segments, and I can tell you the sex 100%
>>
Which species do you guys like more? and why?
C. versicolor or Y. diversipes?

Thinking about getting one of the two species soon..
>>
File: IMG_1063.jpg (152KB, 722x1280px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_1063.jpg
152KB, 722x1280px
>>2420625
I know they eat it, but how quickly could that have really happened? I check on them every 8 hours or so. Someone mentioned a bacterial infection might be bloating it, but that really wouldn't explain the complete change in coloration right?

Also, it's behavior has changed drastically. Both older roaches i have in the encloser were fairly slow moving and ok to be handled, but the one in question is all of a sudden extremely skittish and seems to have trouble sticking its legs to surfaces
>>
how long does it take blue bottle flies to hatch? ive had mine sitting out for almost a week now and theyre not hatching. theyre definitely pupae. my room stays between 75-80 degrees
>>
File: jew_money.jpg (899KB, 1170x856px) Image search: [Google]
jew_money.jpg
899KB, 1170x856px
>>2420625
Wow the pattern on that individual is awesome. Are they very variable? I never had G. gongylodes.


Also if I checked correctly I have 2 I. diabolica with the little spike and 2 without. I'm so happy right now, 2 pairs is exactly what I wanted.

Can you tell me which is which? Since I'll go to the expo in Dortmund tomorrow and Kerf is there I might pick up another one, and this way I can buy another female right away without paying more, pic related.
>>
>>2420629
Both are great desu.

My versicolors build nicer and bigger nets and are always very visible
My diversipes do not come out as much but eat extremely well and are great hunters, they also grow fast and look stunning.
>>
File: fucc.jpg (596KB, 736x2532px) Image search: [Google]
fucc.jpg
596KB, 736x2532px
RIP boi, you did your job.

>>2420821
The ones with spike should be male.
>>
File: 1495685661534.png (50KB, 669x545px) Image search: [Google]
1495685661534.png
50KB, 669x545px
>>2420851
RIP little boy.

>tfw she doesn't even eat all of you

I froze my P. guineensis female yesterday btw. She was no longer eating or able to move her legs and was just hanging motionless. I'll pin and set her nicely, some day.
>The ones with spike should be male.
Thank you. I'm pretty sure the guys at kerf don't know that. Should I tell them?
>>
>>2420861
>I'm pretty sure the guys at kerf don't know that. Should I tell them?
Sure, why not. Though maybe they are aware and it's just too much effort for a breeder to check dozens of little nymphs. According to Wüst's website this also applies to other Empusidae and Pseudocreobotra.

I initially ordered 10 Idolos and got one refunded due to low stock. I hope he's got some left on the expo.
>>
File: feelerino.png (67KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]
feelerino.png
67KB, 500x500px
>>2420851
F
>>
File: index.jpg (8KB, 300x168px) Image search: [Google]
index.jpg
8KB, 300x168px
>>2419838
In the last two days
>I've found two ticks on me
>and got bitten by a house spider
apparently you're not supposed to actually grab the spider to get it off of you because being squeezed or gripped causes them to bite out of defense.
Also, the mouthwash I just used, is making my tongue taste some kind of weird flavor
> Pretty sure this is a sign to quit some of my habits
>>
3 out of the 8 chinese mantises I raised from an ooth have successfully molted into adults. They're a lot smaller than I expected.

I've learned so very much. I'm pretty sure I have a male and female among them, now just to take pictures and see if my assessment is correct.
>>
need a bit of identitification help. there is this bug that keeps attacking me in my bed it looks like a fruit fly but is ALOT quicker about the same size more agile and makes a buzzing noise (in Canada Hamilton area) no pics cause im to busy trying to kill the fucker not give it a photo shoot
>>
>>2421394
some more traits it a bit smaller than a house fly but bigger than a fruit fly its able to dodge the sprays of febreeze at it idk wat this fucker is but he is tough
>>
>>2421394
Nobody here is psychic. Try /x/.
>>
File: IMG_20170702_143327.jpg (2MB, 2841x1911px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_20170702_143327.jpg
2MB, 2841x1911px
Please help
I woke up today,went to check my spidders
Pic related is a SEALED plastic box with a corpse from a dubia roach on top that I fed to my T a few days ago but
>there is a male dubia roach inside the box that is gone now
HOW?!?
I never touch the food bugs unless I feed my Ts
yesterday it was in there and now it teleported somewhere
box is sealed no holes or anything
I am just shoked
I live by myself and have no other pets other than my tarantulas
>>
>>2421400
God damn it anon if /k/ can figure out a gun from a shitty ww2 pic you can figure this bug out
>>
>>2421402
Well, give us shitty ww2 pic of your bug, then we talk.
>>
>>2421403
No can do anon my phone is dead from last night cause of Canada day I was to drunk to plug it in
>>
File: avatar_1498988431996.jpg (119KB, 1240x1240px) Image search: [Google]
avatar_1498988431996.jpg
119KB, 1240x1240px
Do you actually touch the bugs? Im talking about feeders like roaches or crickets. I just cant touch bugs but id like a tarantula one day
>>
>>2421405
You can use tweezers if it bugs you that much.
>>
>>2421402
Pic being the keyword. Anyone that can tell you what the insect is from that shitty description is either lying or making random guesses.
>>
>>2421415
Killed it was a tiny ass house fly was a worthy foe I battled him for about 1 and a half before he succumbed to all the febreeze
>>
File: 1496942035781.png (132KB, 500x302px) Image search: [Google]
1496942035781.png
132KB, 500x302px
>>2421407
>>
File: 2017-06-04 08.14.03.jpg (609KB, 2968x1655px) Image search: [Google]
2017-06-04 08.14.03.jpg
609KB, 2968x1655px
>>2420821
>Are they very variable? I never had G. gongylodes.
yes, they are
not so much in pattern, but in color
here is a green female

>>2420752
>I know they eat it, but how quickly could that have really happened?
in a matter of minutes

if you are talking about the exact specimen in your pic:
it does not look bloated at all, it actually looks really thin

do you have more pics?
>>
Bad news. Kerf didn't have any more Idolomantis, but they told me that they might get some this week and that you should send them a mail the coming weekend if you want more.
>>
File: 1.jpg (273KB, 976x729px) Image search: [Google]
1.jpg
273KB, 976x729px
>>2421524
Thanks for the info! I'm gonna consider ordering a few more.
>>
File: IMG_0322.jpg (472KB, 1031x773px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0322.jpg
472KB, 1031x773px
Feels like Christmas
>>
File: IMG_0925.jpg (739KB, 1080x1920px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0925.jpg
739KB, 1080x1920px
>>2421422
Here are the 1st two that went in the encloser. One is the same size and coloration, but the other (jet black) has exploded outwards and gone chesnut
>>
>>2421612
that's because it molted and its stomach is empty

they get darker as they grow (more intense coloration) and the segments are closer together right now because its gut isn't full yet

once it eats and gets fat again it will stretch out somewhat and you'll see the lighter parts of the segments again
>>
File: 35632544636_484e01a941_k.jpg (433KB, 2048x1365px) Image search: [Google]
35632544636_484e01a941_k.jpg
433KB, 2048x1365px
wild
>>
File: lewdthings.png (142KB, 500x500px) Image search: [Google]
lewdthings.png
142KB, 500x500px
>>2421539
L-lewd!

And damn, B. mendica is nice. I will get these, some day.

I picked up 2 pairs of Haania "orlova" (not sure about that species name, IGM list says cf. vitalisi for IGM 302) today, even though I didn't plan to.

At least they're tiny...
>>
File: IMG_0922.jpg (605KB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0922.jpg
605KB, 3264x2448px
Hey found this guy earlier today in the Tahoe national forest region. I can't seem to id him; any ideas what he is?
>>
File: 20170702_112155.jpg (1MB, 900x1600px) Image search: [Google]
20170702_112155.jpg
1MB, 900x1600px
I don't know if it was here or in the thread but someone asked about a way to import inverts from yurop to america, and I might have a solution for you now.

I talked to someone at the expo yesterday and he told you you should contact the guy running arachnoiden.com

They import (mostly tarantulas) legally and regularly, and they get them mainly from German breeders and the guy I talked to (Sven Köppler) specifically, so you can get everything he has (and he has some good stuff, pic related)

I'm sure that if you want other inverts imported they will do if for you too, as long as its legal. Also you're supposed to tell them that your friend in Germany talked to Sven and that's how you found them.
>>
>>2422079
*here or in the discord
>>
File: 2017-06-10 09.51.02.jpg (615KB, 1884x1568px) Image search: [Google]
2017-06-10 09.51.02.jpg
615KB, 1884x1568px
>>2421626
>Haania "orlova"
Haania cf. orlovi I guess?
I'm thinking about getting some of these too for quite some time now.. do you have some pics
>>
Any experience with s. coleoptrata? There is a huge 2~inch one roaming around my basement somewhere and I'd love to have him in an enclosure
>>
File: 35657515626_eca51af9ea_h.jpg (278KB, 1600x1066px) Image search: [Google]
35657515626_eca51af9ea_h.jpg
278KB, 1600x1066px
>>2422233
>Haania cf. orlovi I guess?
Yeah, was probably a typo on his part.
Gonna write him a mail and ask who identified these and when.

>do you have some pics
I just took some. I think these might be the first actual pictures of these on the internet.
>>
File: IMG_6158.jpg (1014KB, 1600x1067px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_6158.jpg
1014KB, 1600x1067px
>>2422261
Be aware that these are tiny though. Here's one next to a D. hydei, and it only has 3 or 4 molts left to go before being adult.
>>
>>2422261
>>2422262
I think I just came...
thank you for the great pics!

yep, i'm aware that that they are really tiny. About 2cm as adults, right?

Also, can you keep them in groups, like other Haania sp.?
And do they also prefer cooler temps and high humidity?
>>
>>2422332
I saw the adults and they looked closer to 3cm actually. Maybe 2,5 without wings.

>Also, can you keep them in groups, like other Haania sp.?
Yup. Christian told me that's what he does and he hasn't had a single loss, also the adults apparently live surprisingly long. His were adult since february and the females are still laying ooths. Also the males are still alive as well.

>And do they also prefer cooler temps and high humidity?
It appears so. He said 25C would be ideal but up to 27 should be no problem and they also were fine when it was really hot a few weeks ago.

I have all 4 of them in one of the big BraPlast boxes full of bark with moss on it with only the top cut out for ventilation. My cheapass thermo-/hygrometer said 26C and 80% humidity today so I somehow managed to create an ideal setup completely randomly, which makes me very happy.
>>
File: IMG_1088.jpg (121KB, 722x1280px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_1088.jpg
121KB, 722x1280px
ID? southeastern wisconsin
>>
>>2422483
Looks like an assassin bug, most likely Reduvius personatus.

Eats other critters, including ones larger than itself.

Painful bite but only bites when seriously provoked. Gently letting it walk onto your hand and putting it down elsewhere should be no problem.
>>
>>2422483
That's a masked hunter looks like
>>
>>2421794
Never mind, figured out it was a plant bug phytocoris
>>
>>2422507
>>2422558
from wikipedia:
The MASKed hunter is a predator of small arthropods, including woodlice, lacewings, earwigs, and bed bugs.[1] MASKed hunters do not feed on human blood, but can bite humans in self-defense when mishandled.[2] The bite can be EXTREMELY PAINFUL, but MASKed hunters are not known to transmit any diseases and medical attention is rarely needed.
>MASK
>EXTREMELY PAINFUL
>>
File: 20170704_010852.jpg (1MB, 2048x1152px) Image search: [Google]
20170704_010852.jpg
1MB, 2048x1152px
>Internet says the males don't bite that hard
>except for that one research paper that points out no they bite super fucking hard and their weird heads are part of why those jaws bite like a motherfucker

Fucking stags goddamn.

First one I've seen in person before, last one I'm handling without a stick. I think the fucker thinks he bested me in combat too, but jokes on him he wasn't the one judo flipped to the ground.
>>
File: IMG_0974.jpg (944KB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0974.jpg
944KB, 3264x2448px
>>2422649
I'm assuming this is a much younger one then? I find them pretty often around here
>>
>>2422684
yep. that's them. he's a small nymph. UUUU
>>
File: IMG_0304.jpg (4MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0304.jpg
4MB, 3264x2448px
JUST MOLT ALREADY DAMMIT
>>
>>2422693
Is there any hope of keeping them in captivity? I am thinking of trying out another aggressive species before I order my s. polymorpha
>>
File: 1454203193850.png (148KB, 224x224px) Image search: [Google]
1454203193850.png
148KB, 224x224px
>5" tarantula hasn't eaten in 3 months
>1.5" sling has blocked burrow entrance and is just sitting on the surface for weeks.
This is too stressful.
>>
>>2422673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7fvo7oDORE
>>
>>2422700
i don't see any reason why not. hell, the very fact that they are local to me suggests they'd probably fare better in your care than more exotic species
>>
>>2422721
I just ask because I've been looking around and I've seen pretty much nothing about their ideal habitat or a care sheet or anything. I guess I'll just keep the adult one in some coco fiber and give it some babby cricket and hope for the best
>>
>>2422649
It's a big bug.
>>
>>2422700
I mean they apparently do fine in your climate, so you basically would just have to put them in a box and either put it outside or try to emulate those conditions.

Assassin bugs are neat, if you want something bigger look for Platymeris species or Psytalla horrida. They get quite large, are colonial and look awesome.
>>
>>2422795
U U U U
>>
Ant farm question: what's a natural and sustainable way of killing ants for the purpose of population control?

(By "sustainable" I mean that it should neither wipe out the colony/queen and it should take the ants at least several months to eliminate the source of population control, if at all.)

I've had pitcher plants suggested but I dunno if their eating rate is high enough.
>>
>>
>>2422842
many fish would love ants
>>
>>2422965
Thanks, I was stuck in thinking about orb spiders and antlions
>>
I saw a ton of really cute stag beetle videos and I wanted to know how to obtain one and care for one so we may conquer the world together

what do
>>
>>2423017
Depends on where you are. It's almost impossible to get most beetles in the US due to law restrictions.

If you're in europe you should have no problem getting some but be aware that
1. most stag beetles don't live for very long as adults, a few months at most (longest living ones get to maybe 2 years)
2. beetles are usually kept to be bred, which means you'll have to deal with rearing the larva, which live burrowed in rotten wood for many months
3. adult beetles are usually either burrowed or nocturnal
>>
>>2423039
are beetles really illegal in the US?
>>
>>2423042
as far as I know, yes
>>
>Watch a bunch of tarantula videos before bedtime despite being an arachnophobia
>Dream about S-M: Homecoming

better_than_expected.jpg
>>
>>2423042
It's more like some species of beetle can really fuck up an unprepared ecosystem, so the last thing anyone wants is some clueless rando unleashing a biblical plague because they wanted to see a gigantic scarab in person. We're still dealing with Japanese Beetles to this day.

If you're in an area where stags occur naturally though, just run a light out at night and surely something interesting will come your way.
>>
>>2423164
Yeah, the US has some pretty cool native stags.

Rearing them in captivity would do something good for your natural ecosystems as well as just be neat in general.

Here is a list of stag beetles in the US: http://insectoid.info/checklist/lucanidae/usa/

You can further refine that by clicking on your state to see which one of these you have locally.
>>
>>2423168
here is a list with pictures as well: http://bugguide.net/node/view/3103/bgpage
>>
File: IMG_9391.jpg (126KB, 640x462px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_9391.jpg
126KB, 640x462px
I have two spare enclosures
In thinking of ordering some P. regius

Any other ideas?
>>
>>2423402
Depends on how big the enclosures are.
>>
File: mph.png (439KB, 1136x1596px) Image search: [Google]
mph.png
439KB, 1136x1596px
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cPmiQwXc4U
>>
>>2423402
Hyllus sp. are cooler
>>
>>2423599
What species is sp?

Also, I haven't had much luck finding Hyllus, otherwise I'd pick a species from both Hyllus and Phidippus, and be done with it.
>>
>>2423623
sp. means species

so he's saying the Genus Hyllus is cooler than the genus Phidippus...
>>
>>2423636
Yeah I figured that out after a couple of minutes, but didn't feel like changing my post. Nice ellipses though, adds that extra smugness this thread never needed.
>>
File: 20170405_134223.jpg (2MB, 2576x1932px) Image search: [Google]
20170405_134223.jpg
2MB, 2576x1932px
So, she's safely arrived home. Gonna see her again when the semester ends.

I've learned a lot of valuable things from her. I've learned these animals indeed have their own rudimentary moods and personalities, and no two are alike. She has her times when she's okay with me interacting with her and times where she has no patience for my nonsense.

What did you learn from your first invert, /an/?
>>
>>2423993
>What did you learn from your first invert, /an/?
Tarantulas are picky eaters, and even then they don't really care about eating.
>>
>>2423993
I learned that some tarantulas are pretty much rocks, except not as interesting (and also poop EVERYWHERE. Holy shit I'm never going to get that enclosure clean)

Suggestions for slightly more active inverts? Or atleast interesting to look at when they decide to play statue?
>>
File: IMG_1070.jpg (110KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_1070.jpg
110KB, 1024x768px
>>2424012
I don't know much about other inverts, but I know that B. albopilosum and L. parahybana are pretty active spooders if you're still willing to give Ts a chance. Jumping spiders are also pretty hyper, though obviously they don;t last as long.
>>
File: wings.png (556KB, 725x573px) Image search: [Google]
wings.png
556KB, 725x573px
excuse me ma'am, could you fold up your wings already?

It's been two days since you molted and I'm starting to get worried
>>
File: IMG_0337.jpg (1MB, 2444x2444px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0337.jpg
1MB, 2444x2444px
IDS HABBENING
>>
File: HABBIDIG.jpg (124KB, 600x446px) Image search: [Google]
HABBIDIG.jpg
124KB, 600x446px
>>2424080
AW SHIT NIGGA
>>
>>2424012
>>2424012
Jumping spiders have a good sense of vision and are pretty intelligent relative to their size. This makes feeding time pretty entertaining and also means that they can perceive humans to some extent.
>>
File: Pcambridgei.jpg (184KB, 1008x895px) Image search: [Google]
Pcambridgei.jpg
184KB, 1008x895px
test
>>
File: IMG_0341.jpg (1000KB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0341.jpg
1000KB, 3264x2448px
>>2424080
It's over.
>>
>>2424339
What a pretty spider
>>
Alright

What's wrong with my girls wings? They've been unfurled for three days now. It looks like the very inside of the first pair of wings are curled.
Is this a common problem? Will it interfere with mating?
I haven't attempted to coerce her into flight, but I doubt she can...
>>
File: IMG_0372.jpg (1MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0372.jpg
1MB, 3264x2448px
>>2424422
>>2424080
>>2422699
>>2420360
6 days later, we finally have 8 legs again
>>
File: elation.jpg (25KB, 335x327px) Image search: [Google]
elation.jpg
25KB, 335x327px
>>2424626
>she regenerated
oh happy day
>>
>>2424626
Nice. That leg is almost full size as well.
>>
>>2424618
Might make it harder for the male to hold on. You could try sorting out that wing situation by yourself. Mabye they're just folded in the wrong order.
>>
Well, I just ordered some Theopompa servillei. Now I just need Humbertiella to complete the bark mantis collection, that won't happen for a longass time though.

Does anyone have any experience with Theopompa? There is barely anything on the internet. I got some advice from the seller but I always want to hear at least 2 opinions.
>>
>>2424900
I keep them too.
They like high humidity and they prefer cooler temps. Not much more than 24°C... as I found out the hard way about two weeks ago, when it was really hot..
Only 27° in their enclosure, but all but except dropped....

They are really beautiful and interesting! Nice social behavior too, but you'll see for yourself
But they grow pretty slow and do't eat a massive amount

Anything specific you want to know?
>>
>>2424916
That was pretty much exactly what I wanted to hear, thank you.

So they really are very sensitive about high temperatures then? It's not really a problem for me but it means I'll have to move their boxes around a bit as long as it stays so warm.

>Nice social behavior too, but you'll see for yourself
They guy I'm getting them from says he prefers to keep them separate. He says they stress each other out easily and constantly run around the enclosure.

How big is your enclosure for them?

Also what does slow growing and not eating a lot mean in this context?
>>
>>2424925
>They guy I'm getting them from says he prefers to keep them separate. He says they stress each other out easily and constantly run around the enclosure.
They do run around a lot, but not because of each other. They wave their raptorial legs at each other, similar to Hestiasula when they meet, then they part their way. It doesn't seem stressful to me, they often hang out next to each other.
But it seems the seller had other experiences

>How big is your enclosure for them?
A 20x20x20 Terrarium for the small nymphs with lots of bark

>Also what does slow growing and not eating a lot mean in this context?
about 2 molts in 3 months, but I'd have to check

A few Drosophila a week, nothing compared to Gongylus for example, these eat everyday until they are full
>>
My blue bottlefly pupae wont hatch pls help
>>
File: 20170707_222143.jpg (780KB, 2048x1152px) Image search: [Google]
20170707_222143.jpg
780KB, 2048x1152px
>>2422673
>another one tries to ambush me tonight
>banish him to the plant dimension

Must be one of those good years for pincher stags here in Maryland, I swear I've never seen them before in my life.

That or it's the same fucker as Monday trying to get me good.
>>
>>
File: 15064994926_2062d69058_b.jpg (159KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]
15064994926_2062d69058_b.jpg
159KB, 1024x683px
>>2423993

Get a mantis, bro.

https://youtu.be/LZCyyEkd9_o
>>
Saved these two 1/2 inch lads from the local Petco today and got them out of the meme canisters they were keeping them in. One's dug a pretty nice burrow where I can see it and the other is still getting settled in
>>
>>2425420
Nice video, the quality is definitely increasing.

However the info on the Idolomantis is kinda misleading as they only need high humidity for the final molt and after, until then they want it dry and really hot. And the Metallyticus aren't really kept like other mantids, so the general overview you give at the start doesn't apply to them.

I guess you only wanted to show the coolest species though.
>>
File: Bild009.jpg (67KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]
Bild009.jpg
67KB, 640x480px
Believe it or not, I had this one for 24 years.

Last year, she was just getting slower and slower, refused to eat without getting skinnier, like she was preparing for another molt - and just stopped.
She outlived two dogs and two cats.

When I got her, she was already an adult, supposedly 3-4 years old, and I was 6 when my dad got it for me - making her only a couple of years younger than me.

You will be missed.
>>
>>2425481
Did you actually save them or did you pay for them? If it's the latter you contributed to the problem.

They keep animals in shitty conditions and you buy them out of pity, giving them more money to keep more animals in shitty conditions.
>>
File: dsc_0031_649423.jpg (72KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
dsc_0031_649423.jpg
72KB, 1024x768px
>>2425484
rip in peace, lil spooder

See, that's what most impresses me about these animals. You think of any spider or insect and chances are it won't last a year. But If I bought a G pulchra as a sling now and it was female, she would live to see my kids get their PhDs and my grandkids hit 5th grade.

What was her name, anon?
>>
>>2425485
Paid, but at a hefty discount. The manager told me this is the last time they will be stocking them as no one would buy them.
>>
>>2425484
Rest in peace little spider. Good luck in spider heaven.

It must be sad to see her go after such a long time. She has accompanied you for the majority of your life.
>>
>>2425486
Susie.

When she got older, she was a true pet rock. Refusing to eat up to 10 months before a molt, only drinking some water.

Interestingly enough, she was still rather active. As she was getting quite big for a Grammostola (for size comparison, she's eating a rather big migratory locust in the picture; roughly 8-9 cm from the head to the tip of the wings), I got her a new, bigger enclosure. Obviously, I made the mistake of actually lovingly arrange the interior. Needless to say, she trashed everything when she was rearranging it, effortlessly flipping over heavy rocks and roots in the process.

Other than that, she was very calm, and despite having dug a big cave, she usually stayed outside, relaxing in the warmth of the sun and/or the heating lights.
>>
>>2425494
Sounds like she had a good, long life.

Do you want to ever get another spider? This time of your own accord.
>>
>>2425495
Not so sure of it yet. I threw out the enclosure when I moved, so I'd have to buy a lot of equipment again for a proper terrarium.

And I got a cat instead.

Maybe one day.
>>
File: 1467832344734.jpg (50KB, 433x469px) Image search: [Google]
1467832344734.jpg
50KB, 433x469px
It just occured to me how weird it is that on warm days two of my mantis species go outside (Idolomantis and Heterochaeta) and one (soon two), go into the bathroom (Haania and Theopompa).
>>
File: 20170708_140029.jpg (1MB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]
20170708_140029.jpg
1MB, 1600x900px
Alright. Cork tube apparently isn't good enough for her. Fine.
>>
>>2425484
F
>>
>>2425484
RIP big girl
>>
>>2425545
>having something this spooky in your living room

>>2425532
>having mantids free roam your house
>>
File: quid.png (88KB, 500x804px) Image search: [Google]
quid.png
88KB, 500x804px
>>2425620
>free roam

Are you retarded?
>>
>>2425628
Relax, I just don't think he understood what you meant. I'm not sure I do either. Do you mean they come out of their hides or what have you?
>>
>>2425628
What does he have, a dollhouse inside a cage complete with working plumbing, bathroom, shower, kitchen, living room, dining room and yard?

When people say 'go outside' or 'go to the bathroom' it tends to mean either their house or their anthromorphized insect living area. Sorry if I was confused.
>>
I was in a shop minding my own business, and then I feel a sharp pain in my knuckle. A fucking bee frenzie attacked me then dropped to the floor. Fucking asshole, glad that cunt is dead. They always get caught in people's clothing or hair, then act like a nigger when you touch that area. Bees are fucking stupid
>>
>>2425629
>>2425630
I should have said that I put the boxes they are in either outside for the heat or into the bathroom for the colder temperatures, hence they "go outside", complete with their enclosures, or they go into the bathroom, literally.
>>
>>2425649
See. Making sense and animeposting are two different things. Be clear next round.
>>
File: lpcoin4-.jpg (274KB, 709x729px) Image search: [Google]
lpcoin4-.jpg
274KB, 709x729px
>>2425649
Interesting. Sounded sketch the first time I read it, but turns out it was only my novice T ownership projecting.
>>
>>2425631
I tend to dislike flying inverts. Moths and mantids are the exception to the rule
>>
File: IMG_1039.jpg (489KB, 1439x1134px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_1039.jpg
489KB, 1439x1134px
>>
File: 1497050630982.jpg (66KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]
1497050630982.jpg
66KB, 480x360px
>>2425545
Cute.
>>2425668
>>2426132
Are those hairs fluffy?
>>
File: 006-16.jpg (146KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
006-16.jpg
146KB, 1024x768px
>>2426150
Fluffiest things you ever felt. If you've ever petted a docile T's legs, you find there are few things that feel more silken and velvety
>>
You weren't kidding about the Idolomantis growing fast.

Not only are they L4 now, they also gain a shitton of size each molt.
>>
>>2426132
Is that thing one-eyed or is it just the perspective fooling me?
>>
File: 20170709_115940.jpg (2MB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]
20170709_115940.jpg
2MB, 1600x900px
>>2426274
forgot image
>>
File: 008-27.jpg (186KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
008-27.jpg
186KB, 1024x768px
>>2426278
There's 8. They're just really small and beady

>>2426279
Damn son. just how long ago did you buy them?
>>
>>2426278
It's the perspective. Tarantulas have 8 eyes, but they're all pretty small and very close together on a single little bump. It's actually one of the characteristic traits by which you can identify a tarantula.

>>2426280
>just how long ago did you buy them?
3 weeks ago. As L2.
>>
File: DSC01844.jpg (410KB, 1023x810px) Image search: [Google]
DSC01844.jpg
410KB, 1023x810px
>>2426281
sheesh. Them things grow fast. What's their average life expectancy?
>>
>>2426330
About a year, give or take a few months.
>>
File: 20170710_001924.jpg (2MB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]
20170710_001924.jpg
2MB, 1600x900px
First time my geniculata has shown herself outside her hide after her molt. Hopefully she'll get bolder when she gets bigger, right now she still hides all the time.
>>
>>2426785
She look absolutely gorgeous. How long ago did she molt?
>>
>>2426835
>She look absolutely gorgeous.
I think genics are my favorite species of tarantula, especially when they get big and nasty. I love that. I don't see much of this girl yet but I already love her. The sheer energy with which she goes after prey is amazing.

>How long ago did she molt?
Not sure since she closed off her hide but I'd guess 2 to 3 weeks ago.
>>
File: 61.jpg (39KB, 445x469px) Image search: [Google]
61.jpg
39KB, 445x469px
So I ordered a b. klaasi and b. albiceps online a week ago and delivery confirmation said it was delivered yesterday despite me not seeing shit outside. I'm hoping USPS messed up and those fuckers are at the post office
>>
File: 20170405_134454.jpg (2MB, 2576x1932px) Image search: [Google]
20170405_134454.jpg
2MB, 2576x1932px
>>2427021
USPS is absolute garbage.

When i tried getting Felicia home with express, she arrived not in 24 hours, but in 48. Absolute garbage. You bet your ass I went for a refund and so should you
>>
File: 20170703_181453.jpg (152KB, 600x801px) Image search: [Google]
20170703_181453.jpg
152KB, 600x801px
>>2426279
Yours seem to be a bit ahead of mine. Got the first L4 tonight and two are slow growers who just molted into L3 two days days ago. I hope this isn't gonna cause them problems, they eat as well as the others though.
>>
>>2427245
Nice picture!

Yours are only two days or so behind mine. Also I should have said 3 of my 4 are L4, the last one should molt wednesday night, if it keeps its schedule (the other ones have).

The slow growers are a bit strange, but you have a larger sample size than me so that might just be normal. Do you put yours outside? I have noticed they eat a lot better if they have wind (at least the Heterochaeta do, can't say for sure about the Idolos yet). I'm probably going to get a small fan for them so they have constant wind actually.

Also one of my Haania orlovi molted, and it might just be my imagination, but it seems greener now, a lot more like the very green moss they're all living on now.
>>
File: 20170703_181934.jpg (163KB, 600x801px) Image search: [Google]
20170703_181934.jpg
163KB, 600x801px
>>2427266
Ah, I see. I guess yours got a bit of a growth spurt since you got them a week earlier.

Haven't put them outside yet, gotta try it though while they are still in the small tanks. They all eat very well already, even take food from tweezers without hesitation, but watching them swat flies out of the air is more entertaining.

How are the Metallyticus doing? Are they laying ooths?
>>
>>2427295
The Metallyticus are done with their first round of ootheca, as far as I can tell. I can spot at least 3 but there might be more (I put in a big piece of wood with a lot of holes, I'm not moving it so there might be more ootheca on the underside where I can't see them). The females are getting seriously fat again and just a few hours ago one of them was wandering around, so new ooths are probably coming.

Incubation time on these is apparently around 100 days by the way, so it will be a long time before I see any results.

Have you been able to sex your Idolomantis yet?
>>
File: 20170703_181633.jpg (205KB, 686x915px) Image search: [Google]
20170703_181633.jpg
205KB, 686x915px
>>2427325
Nice to hear that they've been busy!

I haven't really looked into it yet. I think I'll try to seperate them once they are all L4. I suppose this one is female at least, it has that notch in the segment.
>>
File: S1800023_zps5d1b4697.jpg (107KB, 1024x682px) Image search: [Google]
S1800023_zps5d1b4697.jpg
107KB, 1024x682px
>>
Is this a good place for a rundown on vampire crabs? I usually only see you guys talking about tarantulas and occasionally mantis
>>
File: angel hair.jpg (116KB, 500x375px) Image search: [Google]
angel hair.jpg
116KB, 500x375px
>>2427625
>vampire crabs?
n-nani
>>
>>2427625
what do you want to know?
>>
File: 1499445792481.jpg (228KB, 734x767px) Image search: [Google]
1499445792481.jpg
228KB, 734x767px
>>2427626
What? These little guys seem like a lot of fun. Im aware of the 2/3 land 1/3 water ratio but aside from that i dont know much
>>
>>2427631
Basically what to do for food, temperature and humidity, what kind of plants and or hiding spots. That kind of stuff
>>
>>2427634
If we're talking real vampire crabs (Geosesarma species) all you need is a small bowl of water.

This is what their natural habitat looks like, they do fine without a large water part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5KeoT2VfzQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeEDOR1pQ7A

>>2427638
>food
surprisingly they mainly want small live food like fruit flies and pinhead crickets, they are quite adapt hunters and almost pure carnivores
a diet of fish food pellets and vegetables won't be enough, but you can use them to supplement their diet
those are also easier to dust in calcium, which they need, but not in large amounts

>temperature and humidity
24 to 27 C, 70%+ humidity during the day, room temp and 80%+ at night

>what kind of plants
whatever you like that's tropical
they're good climbers and they like climbing, so pick something robust and strong
Pothos, bromeliads, that sort of thing
take a look at those videos I posted
also definitely install at least a climbable (cork bark, fake rock) back wall, better yet back and side walls

>hiding spots
either give them substrate to dig in or small hides in the form of halved cork tubes or similar (one per crab minimum)
or both
>>
Yo, did you guys know our little spike (the Dorcus titanus) has become famous on twitter?

https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/spike-the-beetle?utm_term=.ixWG7nryqx#.bg05ODLBdm

Actually, beetle anon, are you here? How are you dealing with all of this?
>>
>>2427649
Thanks anon lastly i dont know how i would want to buy them. i have two local pet stores but i dont know if id trust them even if they have them in. I live in new york if that helps
>>
>>2427663
can't help you there, I'm in yurop

just make sure you get actual vampire crabs (Geosesarma), not something else like Pseudosesarma or Neosarmatium. Those have radically different requirements.
>>
>>2427672
Alright thanks any way anon. Btw from experience do you know if they eat anything on site? For example say i had guppies or shrimp in the water part would they eat them or mostly ignore?
>>
>>2427675
*sight
>>
>>2427675
a local pet store has them in a terrarium with tiny fish in the water part and they completely ignore everything in the water

actually they don't even really go into the water, they're like 95% terrestrial

and if you have a water part you MUST have a way for them to get out easily and quickly, they can drown
>>
>>2427682
Alright thanks again anon
>>
File: let's cry.gif (53KB, 250x250px) Image search: [Google]
let's cry.gif
53KB, 250x250px
>my spider shed her exoskeleton
>she's all flat and wobbly and shit

How long does this last?
>>
>>2419838

What a nice thread (and exquisite hat!)

I dont think I wil ever stop being amazed at arthropod nervous systems or run out of questions.

I have "Mr. Spider" in my kitchen window. We have a detente; he stays on his side of the glass and I wont disturb him. After all, he is the only spider that seems to pull his weight around the house as pest control.

Every night, I have to open the inner window, and Spider would scurry to his corner, then amble back out.

He has stopped running for cover when I open the window. Instead, he just appears to 'watch' me. Now there are alternative explanations. But it appears he 'learned' that my commotion does not portend harm.

I have a theory that how we acquire nutrients is a primary factor in how we develop and adapt, and predators have to abstract some concept of consequence. Its seems to make them smarter than grazers.

How I wonder at the 'minds' of spiders. So much going on in such a small space. Consider all the neural coordination it takes to observe, track, calculate and attack by position, location and motion. All that happens in spiders.

We consider thinking as the processing of sensations; visual images, feelings. The level of waking conciousness in animals cant even compare to our dreams. And yet they excel in their pursuits for survival. I just suspect that how we view thinking is either fundamentally wrong or at best, woefully incomplete. I think we look for a 'center' that isn't there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsGvT2DYJMc
>>
>be beginner with tarantulas
>order from someone who offers freebies
>"I'm new at this so could you send something that's not overwhelming for a newfag?"
>"got u senpai"
>get order today
>freebie is H. Gigas
>do research
>mfw
>>
>>2427776
Should've just gotten a rose hair tarantula.
>>
>>2427819
I did, and despite that got the h. gigas for free
>>
>>2427825
You're mom lets you have TWO spiders anon!
>>
File: purple.jpg (1MB, 2576x1932px) Image search: [Google]
purple.jpg
1MB, 2576x1932px
Spiders is nice. I think its odd that they can be both beautiful and creepy at once. And there are so many shapes, which make them seem like they have different personalities. Like the clumsy, dottering long-legs, or the curious jumper.

I hope you dont mind if I dump a few pics; it relaxes me for some reason...
>>
File: 1362374139745.jpg (92KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]
1362374139745.jpg
92KB, 640x480px
>>2427929
>>
File: 1362710452364.jpg (319KB, 1000x847px) Image search: [Google]
1362710452364.jpg
319KB, 1000x847px
>>2427930
>>
File: 1369277805800.jpg (237KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
1369277805800.jpg
237KB, 1024x768px
>>2427933
>>
File: 1383190899456.jpg (276KB, 1920x1200px) Image search: [Google]
1383190899456.jpg
276KB, 1920x1200px
>>2427935
>>
File: 1397124666073.jpg (112KB, 800x776px) Image search: [Google]
1397124666073.jpg
112KB, 800x776px
>>2427936
>>
File: 1400469770499.jpg (3MB, 3264x2448px) Image search: [Google]
1400469770499.jpg
3MB, 3264x2448px
>>2427937
>>
>>2427940
>>
File: highy.jpg (135KB, 800x600px) Image search: [Google]
highy.jpg
135KB, 800x600px
>>2427942
>>
File: regalis.jpg (1MB, 2048x1600px) Image search: [Google]
regalis.jpg
1MB, 2048x1600px
>>2427944
>>
File: spiders-tarantula_00402770.jpg (1MB, 3000x1923px) Image search: [Google]
spiders-tarantula_00402770.jpg
1MB, 3000x1923px
>>2427948

hope you liked
all for now

g'nite /an/

<3
>>
>>2427949
good stuff. any of these yours?
>>
>>2427745
How big is your spider?

This lasts anywhere from one to ten days, depending on the size.

>>2427769
>I just suspect that how we view thinking is either fundamentally wrong or at best, woefully incomplete.
We know pretty well how they "think". Or at least scientists do. There has been a great deal of very good research into that. As it turns out they're a LOT more complex than simple reflex machines that people usually think they are.

I highly recommend you read this book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/complex-worlds-simpler-nervous-systems
It has a very detailed section about how a jumping spider experiences the world too. You won't look as these "simple" animals the same after you read this.
>>
>>2427776
>>2427825
It's probably a smol sling at the moment, right?

That's actually great for a beginner. This way you can get used to more aggressive spiders slowly, as it grows. Also H. gigas aren't even that bad, they mostly just run into their hide when disturbed, it's only when they somehow can't do that, they get pissy.
>>
My Theopompa are here and I got a freebie! So I have 7 now.

From the guy that also has them: How long have you had them? How well is the communal setup working?

I'm still not sure if I want to put them together or not. Can you give me a bit more detail on your setup?
>>
Hey /an/, I've got my hands on a large-ish mason jar that I'd like to keep a bug in. Jar dimensions are 24cm~9.5" tall, 10.5cm~4" interior width. I was thinking something like a black widow, or a smallish mantis species. Your thoughts?
>>
>>2428083
Yeah it's a sling right now. And that's true, plus once it gets bigger it'll be good for a trade if need be. These are one of the few communal species right? Anything special that needs to be done for a communal enclosure?
>>
File: 34683543225.jpg (9KB, 229x151px) Image search: [Google]
34683543225.jpg
9KB, 229x151px
So my Tapinoma Sessile queen had her first nanitic eclose in their tube. Seems like it's doing all right, but the cotton is starting to go south with mold. How soon can I shift them, especially the new little one, to a new tube? I know it's gonna miff the queen to have to move anyways, but I gotta get them out of there sooner rather than later, lest they get sick from the mold.
>>
>>2428382
Sounds about right. I would have suggested the same.

cut out the top and replace it with mesh, put a bit of substrate in the bottom or some sphagnum moss and two small sticks for decoration and you could keep a number of mantis species and almost any widow species in there

if you're going for the minimal cost setup (no heating) I'd recommend Creobroter gemmatus, those are totally fine at room temperatue
>>
>>2428447
>Creobroter gemmatus
Wow, cute little mantids. I think I have a winner! Thanks.
>>
>>2428448
Good choice. They are probably the most begginer friendly flower mantis.

around 25C during the day would be ideal, but 22 is alright
not below 20C at night
they still want plenty of light though, so put the jar in a bright spot (avoid direct sunshin hitting it though, glass containers heat up fast)
they actually don't want it as humid as you often hear, mist lightly and let the water droplets disappear completely inbetween mistings
feed with flying insects, fruit flies at first, houseflies later, and green and bluebottle flies when they're nearing adult
harmless stuff from outside like small moths should be fine
you can use other feeders but it's not recommended with mantids

and that's about it, they're really quite easy
>>
File: 20170711_122727.jpg (1MB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]
20170711_122727.jpg
1MB, 2560x1440px
>>2420401
I found a dead one of these on a curb in a parking lot
>>
>>2427769
>I have a theory that how we acquire nutrients is a primary factor in how we develop and adapt, and predators have to abstract some concept of consequence. Its seems to make them smarter than grazers.
not a theory, really. it's pretty well established. and pack predators, because they have to orchestrate and plan what to do, tend to have the highest intelligence.

even humans and chimps, which are anatomically herbivorous, have organized hunt parties, which played a pivotal role in our social structure and intelligence.
>TLDR: there's probably no hyper-intelligent space cows
>>
>>2428081
She's...a tarantula.
So rose hair tarantula sized.
>>
How long should I wait to feed a 2.5 inch tarantula after a molt?
>>
Finally caught a glimpse of my b. albopilosum after not seeing him for two weeks. Turns out he molted and had a hearty appetite for the red runner I tossed in his enclosure
>>
>>2428683
I still have no idea how big your spider is.

>She's...a tarantula.
adult tarantulas come in sizes from 1" to 10", this is not useful information

>So rose hair tarantula sized.
a spiderling, a juvenile, subadult, adult?

>>2428813
try the first feeding after a week, though it most likely needs longer
take the feeder out after a day and try again every few days
>>
File: download.jpg (4KB, 144x144px) Image search: [Google]
download.jpg
4KB, 144x144px
Are these things dangerous?
>>
>>2428905
No.
>>
>>2428905
Oh no! That's a highly porous wallie crawlie! Get out of the house and call the exterminator immediately, there's likely an entire fleet of them in your house!
>>
File: 20170712_150421.jpg (1MB, 900x1600px) Image search: [Google]
20170712_150421.jpg
1MB, 900x1600px
As expected the second round of Metallyticus ootheca is now incoming. Hopefully the females last a while. With only 5 to 10 nymps per ootheca they really don't produce much offspring.
>>
File: 20170711_153653.jpg (984KB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]
20170711_153653.jpg
984KB, 1600x900px
>>2429002
also the M. violaceus are starting to get to a decent size now, quite slow growers
>>
File: nas_1210-edit.jpg (743KB, 800x1200px) Image search: [Google]
nas_1210-edit.jpg
743KB, 800x1200px
>>
File: confus.jpg (18KB, 346x300px) Image search: [Google]
confus.jpg
18KB, 346x300px
>>2429210
I want to say that's one of those really primitive mygalomorphs, but I only see six legs
>>
>>2429301
It's actually a type of parasitic fly, not an arachnid
>>
>>2429315
Ah, I see it now. All I saw was the thorax and abdomen for e sec.

Care to elucidate further? This sounds interesting
>>
>>2429321
They are called bat flies.
>>
File: TENNIS.jpg (44KB, 335x318px) Image search: [Google]
TENNIS.jpg
44KB, 335x318px
>>2429323
dude, no way
>>
>>2429321
the head is tiny and folded up and over the prothorax

it's weird as fuck
>>
Is there any way to make these queers(dobsonflys) mate before I kill the male for my collection?
>>
File: gold silverfish.jpg (967KB, 2717x1469px) Image search: [Google]
gold silverfish.jpg
967KB, 2717x1469px
>>2428905

They are harmless, and ennobled by the fact that they are so very ancient.

They are sort of lovably dull-witted, even by bug standards, if you watch them.
>>
>>2428893

I adopted an arthropod nymph once and got to see him after he emerged from his molt.

Since I dont keep pets, it was sort of special for me, sitting there watching my little friend and ball of life enter the world in fresh new skin.

I thought, how nice it must be, to wake up in a fresh new body. Although it may in fact be hard on them, I dont really know. But I was really happy for him. Once he got his bearing, he looked so empowered, like he was very happy with his new skin and seemed to make a point of ambling and turning at speed for the sheer joy of trying out his new body.

We can be blessed with such little episodes in life.
>>
>>2429659
Roach bro?
>>
File: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.webm (3MB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.webm
3MB, 800x450px
>don't touch me you filthy casual
>>
>>2426279
how do they not kill each other?
>>
>>2429810
Many mantids (including Idolomantis) are specialized to catch small, flying prey. They are too big and the wrong shape to fit in each others prey spectrum, so they ignore each other.

Many specis of mantis like this can be kept communally. Some also learn to recognize each other.

It's only the big, chunky ones that go after prey so large they would cannibalize each other. Those are the typical beginner species so most people think for a long time that you can't keep mantids in groups.
>>
File: 8368387496_e957af5af6_b.jpg (356KB, 1024x683px) Image search: [Google]
8368387496_e957af5af6_b.jpg
356KB, 1024x683px
>>
>>2429648
They're kinda assholes, the Silverfish. If you leave books or other papers in a closet for too long they're likely to make themselves a home there.

Now Firebrats, those guys at least have the decency to keep it where it's warm.
>>
File: z_luridus.jpg (79KB, 720x960px) Image search: [Google]
z_luridus.jpg
79KB, 720x960px
I dont know if these are a common sighting, I don't usually visit these threads and dont know much about inverts, but I was doing some work on my car and noticed what I think is an assassin bug on my windshield (Z. luridus, maybe?). I thought it was pretty and maybe /an/ would appreciate it.
>>
File: z_luridus2.jpg (42KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]
z_luridus2.jpg
42KB, 960x720px
S/he seemed pretty chill. I thought they would be a more skittish insect, but even blowing on it a little didn't phase it beyond a twitch of the antenna.
>>
File: z_luridus3.jpg (55KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]
z_luridus3.jpg
55KB, 960x720px
Last pic. Was getting pretty miserably hot out so I went back inside after this. Neat find, though.
>>
>>2430357
He sure is a cool looking fella
>>
So I have this B. Klaasi sling that's been just lying there with its legs sticking up in the air. It'll intermittently twitch from time to time but so far it's been a few hours and it hasn't gotten out of that position. Is this one sick or in a bad molt or just decided to molt right side up like a retard? Pic related
>>
>>2430638
maybe try flipping it over and see what happend, but it looks like it could be dyskinetic syndrome. If it is there's nothing you can do and that spider is going to die.

Scroll down here for an explanation: http://www.theraphosidae.be/en/vogelspinnen/first-aid/
>>
>>2428915
>>2428915

Thank you
I think that they are very cool and i didn't want to kill them if it wasn't necessary.
>>
>>2422850
Is that a king octopus?
>>
>>2428813
Feeding too early can hurt your spider. I always wait 2 weeks unless I can see that their fangs are black and hardened. Theres no rush to feed as long as they have water
>>
>>2430709
No, it's one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorgonocephalus
>>
File: 2017-07-14 16.57.21.jpg (336KB, 1582x1319px) Image search: [Google]
2017-07-14 16.57.21.jpg
336KB, 1582x1319px
>>2428088
>How long have you had them?
about four 3 months I think?
but I'll have to look into it..

>How well is the communal setup working?
No agression at all, only the occasional 'arm waving', as I said, I lost all but two, but that was because of the hot weather... I didn't move them quick enough to a cooler room..

>Can you give me a bit more detail on your setup?
20x20x20cm Walls with bark, and then a few other bark pieces and twigs for cover and additional space to run around on.

>>2430638
I think that guy is right, sorry m8
>>2430643
>>
would i be better off using this:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005AYYM0A/ref=twister_B005BPQA44?_encoding=UTF8&th=1

or using a 29 gallon terrarium to house a african giant millipede?

i was leaning more for the latter since it would be pretty hard to find the tank just by itself at a regular retail oulet and a wire mesh cover to fit it. plus it would cost to much to buy it online due to its fragileness and weight. also i was planning on putting him by the window next to my computer desk and i didn't want the tank glass to conduct heat from the window and cook him(i always have my curtains down, but light still gets in a bit). what would you guys recommend?
>>
>>http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?pcatid=7796&cmpid=07cseYY&ref=6196&subref=AA&cmpid=PLA_G_6196&gclid=CjwKCAjw16HLBRBFEiwAElREqJ-3fXFrB3OI6HW_mRjXorv1DhCSwIcilJuEY_81m_6aRgLVwDhKGRoCmXUQAvD_BwE

nvrmind, looks like it isn't quite as costly as i thought! ill just get one of these from here instead.besides the millipede might be able to crawl through the cage bars anyways.
>>
>>2430758
I would recommend you do more research before getting a millipede. Getting the idea that you could put it in a cage sounds quite absurd for any invert, a millipede especially.
Not only would it certainly get out of that cage, they also need high humidity, which you can't keep up in a cage like that and they burrow. For A. gigas you want at least 8 inches of substrate and you can't even fill that cage high enough for that.

Millipedes are usually kept in plastix boxes or modified aquariums, so your idea with the screen top sounds much, much better.

The temperatures could be a problem, but if there is no direct sunlight it should be alright. You should check that BEFORE getting the animal though. Put a thermometer in the completed setup and monitor the temperatures for a few days.
>>
>>2430754
Well, I do have them separate now since I ordered small boxes anyway and it looks neat.

They really don't eat a lot though, do they? I would be worried about that if you hadn't told me. How thin does their abdomen get before they get hungry again? Most of mine are kinda fat but two are thinner.
>>
File: 1275409776297.jpg (82KB, 500x375px) Image search: [Google]
1275409776297.jpg
82KB, 500x375px
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5NVfr8kcUU
>dat spinneret
>>
File: invert is discord.png (16KB, 674x488px) Image search: [Google]
invert is discord.png
16KB, 674x488px
Explain yourselves, /invert/.
>>
File: 1435081456780.png (1019KB, 4500x4334px) Image search: [Google]
1435081456780.png
1019KB, 4500x4334px
>>2430946
>>
>>2430946
>>
File: image.png (72KB, 750x1334px) Image search: [Google]
image.png
72KB, 750x1334px
>>2430946
>>
>>2430946
We're one of the most discord friendly generals on the board.
>>
>>2430954
Trev was already here. He's been in every thread that had a discord. It's been some time since he has shown up.
>>
File: ops.meme_.nba_-1024x768.jpg (99KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
ops.meme_.nba_-1024x768.jpg
99KB, 1024x768px
>have 4 Pterinopelma sazimai slings
>no. 3 and 2 have stopped eating, and are also the ones where to molt was longer ago, so they're probably in premolt
>no. 1 and 4 are still eating and their molts were more recent
>check their vials
>no. 1 has molted
>>
>>2430961
Who is Trev?
>>
>>2430961
Trev or whoever can blow me.

New #invert channel link
https://discord.gg/mKSdghW
>>
>>2430966
some redditor that joined the discord, acted like a total retard, got banned for it (the only person out of 300+ people to ever get banned) and then went on an anti-discord crusade here

he shitposted in every general that included the discord link and got really mad at every mention of it, totally derailed several generals for a while but then got banned here as well, probably

he tried it in this thread too but luckily /invert/ doesn't respond to bait (I'm so proud of this thread)

and he also claimed to be the owner of his own reddit animal discord server with 400+ members lel
>>
File: 0316062037 .jpg (30KB, 456x500px) Image search: [Google]
0316062037 .jpg
30KB, 456x500px
>>2429736

<3
>>
>>2430758
btw, i'm the one who posted this vid in an earlier thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBHpIyQ6-ec

that actually made me realize something, milo is roughly half the size of the kind of millipede that would fit a tank the size i'm looking into getting anyways.....right?
>>
File: IMG_0874.jpg (1MB, 4032x3024px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0874.jpg
1MB, 4032x3024px
>>2419838
Got a new hermit crab, hopefully he'll get along with my stawberries
>>
Goodnight, sweet prince
>>
File: a great day to sad.jpg (30KB, 500x550px) Image search: [Google]
a great day to sad.jpg
30KB, 500x550px
>>2431328
F
>>
File: 2017-07-15 10.04.35.jpg (519KB, 1638x1922px) Image search: [Google]
2017-07-15 10.04.35.jpg
519KB, 1638x1922px
>>2430855
well, I'd say as thin as it can get without them starving
They are really not great eaters, especially when they are in their early instars

Hapalopus sp. Colombia "big" are growing nicely. They show their beautiful coloration really early on, similar to Cyriocosmus sp.

I fucking love dwarf tarantulas
>>
File: lneoniger.jpg (190KB, 560x347px) Image search: [Google]
lneoniger.jpg
190KB, 560x347px
>>2428439
Unless the mold is covering most of the cotton, there's not much reason to freak out. If it's at that point now or get's to it in the future, it's time to move them.

Step one is to connect another test tube. Don't use tape. It has a tendency to come loose or crinkle and small species will find any little crevice to escape through. I recommend wrapping it securely with saran wrap a few times and then putting a couple of rubber bands around it to hold everything in place.

Step two is put the old test tube on a heat mat/cable. Most ants will flee to the new tube once the old one gets too hot. In my experience, this is around 95° for most temperate species. Make sure you watch the temperature so you don't cook them.

Step three is to cover up the new test tube and expose the old one to light. Natural light is more effective than artificial light.

Step four is optional, but I like to disturb the ants a few times a day. I simply tap my fingers in the stereotypical bored manner next to the test tubes. The vibrations cause the ants to panic and they'll attempt to flee to a safer place. I wouldn't recommend this with more sensitive species.

Doing all this, it usually takes my ants between one and two days to move, although some are more stubborn and it could take a week or more. The method I described above will create an air tight seal. Ants don't need much oxygen, but I would recommend opening it up every few days to allow some fresh air in if it's taking that long.
>>
>>2430766
yeah, i should've known better, anyways, i'm just gonna wait till October to get one anywas...its gonna mark an anniversary in a turning point in my life and i might as well get myself a little present to celebrate it! plus this will give me time to think it over and get more important expenses out of the way until i have the funds to pay for it.
>>
File: ce0AY.jpg (100KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
ce0AY.jpg
100KB, 1024x768px
So to the people with opportunistic burrowing terrestrial tarantulas here, do you think a substrate depth like this is sufficient or insufficient? Does it not matter if they can't burrow as long as they have a hide?
>>
She's thiccening up nicely.

Tonight's the night for a mating attempt too.
>>
>>2431825
Let's hope those wings aren't too much of a problem
>>
>>2431824
what substrate is that? looks funky to me
if you want to make your tarantula as "happy" or comfortable as possible, i would offer it atleast it's legspan's depth of substrate. if not that, then give it like twice as much as currently in there, and partially bury the hide. rehousing to a taller container to facilitate might be necessary
>>
>>2431888
He's mating successfully right now, I was worried about them too. Fir the first few minutes she was slowly spinning in circles, but now she's calmed down and is eating.

How long does copulation usually last? I'm getting some good pictures and want to catch the detachment.
>>
>>2425484
F
>>
>>2431915
>How long does copulation usually last?
Quite a few hours. Possibly even 10+. You'd have to get lucky to catch the detachment.
>>
So I'm considering breaking into the world of arachnids with a rose hair. Can anyone point me to a good care sheet? I've done some googling but the ones I'd found recommended heat pads which made me doubt them a little.

Oh, and something I've never been really clear on, do they need live food, crickets or whatever? Or do they accept dead food as well? Do you guys breed your own crickets or buy them online? I'm sorry, kind of new to this whole thing.
>>
>>2425483

I'm trying. My autism is firing on all levels, and I just want to make cool mantis stuff to share with people. People would love this shit if they knew it existed, and I want to help.
>>
File: t426.jpg (167KB, 600x800px) Image search: [Google]
t426.jpg
167KB, 600x800px
>>2431936
Care sheets are kinda finicky, but i'll give you props on disregarding the ones that recommends heat pads. Complete bullocks.

As for food, live food is what you should feed it, though I've heard there are cases where a T will accept pre-killed offerings, like pinky mice. Still, go for live feeding. Crickets aren't the only thing to feed your T. They're also somewhat aggressive and not super nutritious unless you gut load them hard. Still, they're a viable option. Other options include b. dubia roaches, and superworms/mealworms. Don't try feeding it vertebrates, as they fight back harder and form what I hear, aren't as healthy. If you're looking into choosing crickets or dubia roaches, you can certainly buy them and start a colony, but you will have a lot more than you'll be feeding it, so make sure you know whether or not you want to breed them.
>>
>>2431950
Okay, cool. Which is better, the roaches or the superworms/mealworms? And how much space do I need to keep them alive and in good condition before they get thrown in the tarantula tank?
>>
File: 1478190432090.jpg (281KB, 1920x1920px) Image search: [Google]
1478190432090.jpg
281KB, 1920x1920px
What do you guys think of my AGB and Vinegaroon? (Please forgive my breathing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER0AsGo_P9w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l47ZGTp_mjo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPZ4xNdMLdQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVntfkFW8OI
>>
File: asdf.png (27KB, 139x117px) Image search: [Google]
asdf.png
27KB, 139x117px
Any idea what this is? I'm in Texas, relatively close to the gulf.
>>
>>2431991
>139x117
really now
>>
>>2431993
I caught one on my foot and snapped a picture of it with my cell phone camera before it jumped away. I cropped the image because the rest of the image is just my foot and my carpet.
>>
>>2431979
noice. inverts and classical music just go together somehow
>>
File: s-l300.jpg (8KB, 300x270px) Image search: [Google]
s-l300.jpg
8KB, 300x270px
Since H. Gigas is a fossorial species and burrows a lot, would one of these tall fileboxes be good for an adult?
>>
>>2431936
Check our OP! We did include actually good resources. And you're already 3 steps ahead of the usual beginner by doubting care sheets. Nice.

Here is the video from Tom for G. porteri (applies 100% to G. rosea as well): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuDCtlPBwQ

Here is an actually good care sheet for G. rosea: http://www.theraphosidae.be/en/grammostola-rosea/

I recommend checking out the rest of that site too, it has a lot of really good info about the biology of tarantulas.

However I'd advise starting with another species as your first. While G. rosea is very easy to care for there quite significant downsides to them. Like all Grammostolas they fast, sometimes up to 6 months. Your T not eating for that can be really stressful for a beginner, and you might think you're doing something wrong. Also they are famous for their seemingly random temperament swings, they can go from calm and docile to defensive and panicky. Not something you want to deal with as a beginner.

If you're set on getting a rose hair, go ahead, but here is a list with other beginner species you should consider as well: https://tomsbigspiders.com/2014/11/09/the-best-tarantula-species-for-beginners/
>>
>>2427655
Hello! Yes I still browse here. It's probably the most insane thing that's happened to me, but it's fun. I'm really happy so many people are interested in beetles now (and giving insects/inverts in general a chance).
>>
>>2431954
I like roaches better because they move around and the tarantula can actually hunt them.

They don't need very much space at all. I had my colony of dubias in a 25L plastic box and I started with around 20 roaches. A year later I could grab literal handfuls out of there. That's why I got rid of them, they breed to fast for my animals. Breeding roaches for one tarantula is serious overkill, but the roaches themselves can also be kinda interesting.

Taking care of them isn't hard at all (if we're talking dubias). They want it really hot to breed, two inches of dry substrate, some eggcrate to hide under and a constant supply of food. Mine got oatmeal, fish flake food, dried Gammarus, banana and cucumber, but they eat almost anything. It's just important to always supply enough protein, otherwise they start nibbling on each other.

Anyway, the best way to enrich a tarantulas life is by offering different foods, so try everything. Live food is really not expensive and you can order it online, so go for some variety.
>>
File: fb0.jpg (29KB, 640x432px) Image search: [Google]
fb0.jpg
29KB, 640x432px
>>2431825
>>2431922
What species is that, Plistospilota? If so copulation lasts 20+ hours. Let's hope you're there when he detaches, otherwise, well. pic related
>>
>>2431979
Very cute. Does the vinegaroon ever come out by himself? I hear they burrow and hide a lot.

>>2431991
I can only make vague suggestions, but it looks cricket shaped. Nothing to worry about.

>>2432067
Yes, those boxes are great if you make some ventilation holes.
>>
>>2431824
Check out what she wants. First give her a lot of substrate and if she uses it, keep it. If she doesn't you can keep her like you already do.

Also I agree with >>2431911, that substrate looks kinda strange, what is that?
>>
>>2432072
Yeah, it's quite insane how things can go viral. Beetles are insanely cute though, most people never even bother to look at them.

You said you couldn't take your beetles back from Japan, right? Any plans what you're gonna do with them when you leave? Also do you plan to get more when you're back? I forget where you're from, sorry, but in the UK it should be no problem, but in the US it's actually almost impossible to get beetles.
>>
>>2431353
I think the Theopompa just don't like Drosphila. I just gave them some Thermobia, at almost the same size as themselves, and they (literally) jumped on them. Guess I'm switching up their diet now.

>Hapalopus sp. Colombia "big"
That T has been on my wishlist for too long now, I think I'm gonna get one soon. I need more dwarfs. And I'm not only saying that because I don't have any more room.
>>
>>2431954
The worms have more fat, but they're soft and easy to nom, the roaches have more protein, but may be harder for some to eat. Tarantulas are kinda weird in that each individual will prefer different things, so maybe buy a small batch of each to see how your animal responds to each
>>
>>2431954
Depends on the spider. My T goes to flavortown on superworms, but with dubias, they just become roommatesz
>>
File: 55407827_p46_master1200.jpg (183KB, 1200x964px) Image search: [Google]
55407827_p46_master1200.jpg
183KB, 1200x964px
>>2432014
I just used the youtube music to cover up my air conditoner and breathing. Thanks.
>>2432080
He stayed hidden for most of the winter and early spring, but now he is out 24/7, even when he's not hungry.
>>
>>2432234
>He stayed hidden for most of the winter and early spring, but now he is out 24/7, even when he's not hungry.

Awesome. I had no idea they were seasonal. Got any pics of the setup?
>>
File: 20170716_131234.jpg (2MB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]
20170716_131234.jpg
2MB, 2560x1440px
>>2432240
It's really boring but this is all he really needs.
>>
>>2431950
F L O O F
>>
File: 020-24 (1).jpg (190KB, 1024x768px) Image search: [Google]
020-24 (1).jpg
190KB, 1024x768px
>>2432336
you ain't seen nothin yet
>>
File: IMG_0486.jpg (1MB, 2448x2448px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_0486.jpg
1MB, 2448x2448px
Just left the local expo with a smithi sling, versicolor sling and a scorpion.

I'll post pics tomorrow maybe.
>>
>>2432338
S T A Y P U F T
T
A
Y
P
U
F
T
>>
>>2432339
I mean pulchripes sling instead of smithi. I already have a smithi
>>
>>2432339
>>2432345
Well, it will be a while before that pulchripes becomes a big hairy spider, the versicolor will be faster though. Just make sure you give it a lot of ventilation.

What scorpion did you get?
>>
>>2432349
The pulchripes was $15 so I had to.

H spinigerus
Devil scorpion

It's already pissed off, and that's awesome.
>>
>>2432081
>>2431911
Not my picture; I just needed an example of substrate depth. I do agree it looks like shit but I have no idea what it is
>>
New thread
>>2432427
>>
>>2432084
Funny enough, once Spike got popular, my parents were fine with it... haha.

I've been talking with an entomologist in the USDA, I'm going to wait until Spike raises some more money for PTES and then try to make a case for him to return to the US with me. I might have to leave the other stags with friends here in Japan.
Thread posts: 316
Thread images: 132


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.