ITT: Cats being Cats.

>>2214848
fuck off

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>>2214853

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You hear of all those animal rescue services, I wish there were more that took strays from high-cat areas and shipped them to areas with high vermin problems, instead of the government just poisoning the cats.

>>2214848
This is why I kill every outdoor cat I see

>>2214928
Doubt it
>Caring about some grackle or worthless bird

>>2214931
>caring about the ecosystem is bad

I keep a trap out back for your fucking pests. Then I snap their necks and I'm done with it.

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ITT:

People being people.

>>2215023
>then I'm done
I'm sure the stinking cat carcass doesn't draw attention

>>2214923
They'll have to make sure no one feed the cats or they won't hunt. They also have to vaccinate and fix all the cats for health reasons.

>>2215052
Obviously I get rid of the corpse dumbass. If I know whose cat it is their backyard is a lovely option, so they can see what they've done.

>>2215056
>They'll have to make sure no one feed the cats or they won't hunt.
Yeah, they'd have to move fast and they couldn't take them far. Fortunately, you don't have to look far for areas with vermin.

>and fix all the cats

Why is this THAT mandatory? We're talking about wild animals here. That's like 1 step away from sending people out to fix every animal they can that isn't endangered.

>>2215057
>i put them in their owners backyard
I call bullshit. Do that more than once and you'd have all kinds of people trying to find out who's doing it.
Stop pretending on the Internet.

>>2215122
No you aren't talking about wild animals. You're talking about domestic cats.

>>2215129
No they don't, because they're outdoor cats. The owners whine about it but they don't truly give a shit. And even if they did, they have no idea who or what did it.

>>2214923
Feral cats are decreseaing new Yorks rat population.

>>2215130
Wild = any animal that has never been kept by a human.

>>2215274
No you aren't talking about wild animals. You're talking about domestic cats

>>2215274
No. It doesn't take just one generation to make an animal wild. That's why they are called feral. They aren't wildcats, they're still domestic. They just happen to be feral due to human negligence.

>>2215130
>>2215056
> you need to fix cats because they're broken :DDD

>>2215389
I didn't say anything about fixing them. I'm simply stating the fact that we aren't talking about wildcats. We're talking about a completely domesticated species.

But then again, you probably didn't bother reading. You just copy and paste the same responses everywhere.

>>2215402
>I swear domestic cats never revert to wild behavior nor feral cats ever can be domesticated/tamed

This is an animals board, you should know something about them, or shut up and learn if you don't :^)

>>2215404
Again, I never stated any of that. I simply stated that were talking about domestic cats. It'd take generations to "undomesticate" them so unless you're talking about straight up wildcats, you're the idiot who either can't comprehend what I'm writing or just an idiot that thinks a domestic cat is the same as a fucking bobcat.

>>2215404
nobody said that
kys

>>2215410
>b...b...but domesticated cats have never ever lived in the wild as ferals, it never happened in all those millenia they've been living with humans, they only do it now because :(((

Uncanny retardation

>>2215416
see
>>2215411

>>2215418
see

>>2215389
>>2215383
>>2215416

>>2215416
The fact that you're trying to deny a very simple fact, that domestic cats are, in fact, domestic, means that you're obviously a retarded troll. Crap b8 m8

>>2215424
>>b...b...but domesticated cats have never ever lived in the wild as ferals, it never happened in all those millenia they've been living with humans, they only do it now because :(((

>>2215423
who are you arguing against? Nobody is making these points

>>2215429
>The fact that you're trying to deny a very simple fact, that domestic cats are, in fact, domestic, means that you're obviously a retarded troll.

see >>2215425

>>2215435
so? That doesn't mean they're not domesticated

>>2215435
bobody is making the point you are arguing against here>>2215425

take your meds autismo

>>2215443
>Again, I never stated any of that. I simply stated that were talking about domestic cats. It'd take generations to "undomesticate" them

>what are domesticated cars since millenia, living outside and hanging around humans, but not needing them to live and prosper

Absolute retardation?
Outright lying?

>>2215447
Yes, compared to other domesticated animals our cats seem pretty independent. Still waiting for the point you are trying to make

>>2215451
>No you aren't talking about wild animals. You're talking about domestic cats

>You need to neuter domestic cats because they've always been neutered during the millenia they've been living with us, also they were never let outside, please don't be cruel with your kitty cat, genitally mutilate it and keep it indoors :^)

>>2215133
The cat on the right bag looks miserable

>>2215464
>DONT NEUTER UR KAT. SUM1 WILL DEFINITELY TAKE THE TIME TO FEED THE ENUMEROUS EMACIATED FERAL KITTENS IT PRODUCES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. SURELY FEEDING FERAL KITTENS ISNT A DIFFICULT TASK WITH HOW SCARED THEY ARE. BE NICE PPL AND LET UR KAT HAVE KITS TO WANDER AND STARVE JUST MAKE SURE TO FEED UR KAT BCUZ UR KAT WILL BE SMART ENUF TO CARE 4 ITS KIDDENS N DEFINITELY WONT REJECT THEM BY WEEK 3 OR 4 WHEN THEYRE TOO YOUNG 2 SURBIVE :^]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

>>2215536
>omg poor starving kittens :(((
>omg flea-ridden kittens :(((
>omg gabazillions of birds killed :(((

>omg how can cats have lived among us for millenia, how come birds are not extinct and there are not 6 billion cats since they reproduce so fast :(((


Kill yourself piece of shit shill

>>2215580
>SUM1 KATDS WILL SURBIVE SO IS OKAY WHENEVER MULPITLE KIDDENS GET RUN OVR, EATDN, POISUND, STARVE, N DIE. BCUZ IS NATURE N HOW WE R ALWAYS OF DONE THINGS SO R ALWAYS CORREGT'D :DDDDDDD

Eat shit and die, facile naturalistic archaic scum. Their QOL is far more important than your own selfishness.

>>2215584
>omg poor starving kittens :(((
>omg flea-ridden kittens :(((
>omg gabazillions of birds killed :(((
>omg so sad if you don't neuter your car and don't keep it indoors you are worse than Hitler and you will make it suffer even thought they've been living with us for millenia, free-roaming and un-neutered :(((
>omg how can cats have lived among us for ages, how come birds are not extinct and there are not 6 billion cats since they reproduce so fast :(((


>why aren't you emotionally manipulated and why do you call me a shill :(((


Kill yourself piece of shit shill

>>2215584
>omg don't you know mammals are much happier with their hormone-producting, endocrinian-system-regulating healthy organs removed, and kept indoors when they want to go outside? :(((

>>2215584
Mate, you're wasting your time. Dude's either a very repetitive and uninventive troll, or just a plain old paranoid schizo.

>>2215591
After their replies >>2215588 and >>2215589 which completely sidestepped the issue of naturalistic fallacy and then implied cats know what's best for themselves moreso than humans, I believe you're correct.

>>2215595
>implied cats know what's best for themselves moreso than humans

>omg how come people don't understand that mammals are much happier with their hormone-producting, endocrinian-system-regulating healthy organs removed, and kept indoors when they want to go outside? :(((

>>2215023
Pest birds fuck up ecosystems more than any cat could. These studies of cats taking out bird populations are on isolated islands :)

>>2215597
cry me a river faggot

>>2214848
Twat, what an absolute twat.

>>2215600
There aren't NEARLY as many "pest birds" as pest cats. Birds are almost always native, you retard.

>>2216269
Being native and being a pest isnt mutually exclusive

>>2216316
Being native and being invasive is though. Cats are invasive.

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What would you do if you came home from grocery shopping, and you had left the window open, and there were now 18 cats in your living room?

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>>2216319

>>2216321
hello china.

>>2216318
well, they are pets

>>2216326
If left indoors, yes. If outdoors they are invasive.

>>2216330
most people do both with them. I think "invasive" is a misleading term for a pet.

>>2216330
>outdoors they are invasive

>omg cats have been invasive for millenia how come there are still birds since they genocide billions of them each year :(

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>>2216388
>omg humans have been eating beef for thousands of years how come there are still cows since they genocide billions of them each year :(

>>2216402
because they actively breed new ones and make sure they dont go extinct.
While the guy you are talking to is retarded, your argument isnt that great either.

Get it together guys

>>2216408
>because they actively breed new ones and make sure they dont go extinct.
that's exactly why birds aren't extinct either you fuckwit.

>>2216414
oh my god. I'm pretty new on /an/, but I already know you are a retarded faggot.
This is not exactly why birds arent extinct. Please shut your whore mouth if you dont know what you are talking about

>>2216367
No it's not. Not when they let their "pets" outside to destroy wildlife.

>>2216424
>reproduction isn't why birds aren't extinct

kek.

>>2216269
Tell that to the pest birds destroying beneficial birds

>>2216429
>strawmanning
this is really sad

>>2216430
>Tell that to the troll posters destroying beneficial posters

>>2216427
>let their "pets" outside to destroy wildlife
this is not what happens. It also isnt misleading because they dont eat other pets. It is misleading because they are pets. they domesticated

>>2216427
>omg wildlife has been destroyed for millenia since cats become pets stop the massagre pls guys :((( otherwise birds get extinct :(((

>>2216435
>because they actively breed new ones and make sure they dont go extinct.
>not the same as reproduction.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahhah

>>2216439
>believes there are paid shills on /an/ right now pushing some kind of agenda
>refuses to believe any source because monsanto, pet food industry, and just closed minded
>can't formulate an argument, thinks sarcastic green texting is how adults communicate
>Honestly refuses to believe precious kitties do no wrong.
I just want to know how the fuck crazy cat lady got access to the internet.

>>2216440
So reproduction is reproduction and it doesnt matter if humans actively controle and support it by breeding the animal?
The population of a species of wild living birds is as secured and cared for as the population of farm living cows?
Cool
Please come back when you stop being intelectually dishonest

>>2216451
>reproduction is reproduction and it doesnt matter if humans actively controle and support it by breeding the animal?
correct.
>The population of a species of wild living birds is as secured and cared for as the population of farm living cows?
no one implied that.

reproduction is reproduction, cause doesn't matter, only effect does.

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>>2216449
- Cats have lived alongside humans for millenia, never were they neutered or restricted indoors
- Nowadays there's a huge push for neutering them, and keeping them indoors
- Coincidentally, neutered cats require special cat food, roaming cats risk breeding if they're not neutered, and roaming females who get pregnant birth kittens for free
- Neutered pets develop chronic problems, which the vets make money on
- A 5yr old would understand that vets, pet food and breeder lobbies have a common interest in having cats neutered, and non-roaming
- There's unending propaganda and emotional manipulation on the internet concerning those issues
- 4chan has 30 million unique visitors a month

:^)


Pic related, dog owners aren't stupid either
>b...b...but this study proves that monsanta's glyphosate is beneficial for the environment :(((

>>2216438
That's precisely what happens. They kill billions of birds a year.

>>2216438
>inb4 hurr durr my cat is an angel it never kills anything because I don't see it kill anything

If you don't want your shit animal to be considered invasive, don't let it out to destroy the ecosystem.

>>2216473
>Cats have lived alongside humans for millenia, never were they neutered or restricted indoors
>Cats are invasive

Absolute retardation

>>2216472
>They kill billions of birds a year

>>2216473
Thats just a shitty strawman. I never said anything close to this. I dont even own a cat.

>>2216456
>no one implied that
you did, when you compared wild birds to lifestock here
>>2216402

There is difference between being actively bred by humans and just naturally reproducing

>>2216483
That's what you implied when you said "this isn't what happens" when it happens with every outdoor cat. And you seem like an imbecile so that's why I assumed you're a cat owner.

>>2216484
>when you compared wild birds to lifestock here
there's no objective difference between reproduction and being bred.
>There is difference between being actively bred by humans and just naturally reproducing
claiming there's a difference doesn't mean there is.

reproduction is reproduction, it doesn't matter whether a human or an ant forces you to breed as long as you produce offspring.

come back once you know the difference between 'lifestock' and 'livestock'

piss poor mental gymnastics.

>>2216493
No I didnt imply
>hurr durr my cat is an angel it never kills anything because I don't see it kill anything
I also clarrified this here:
>>2216438
>It also isnt misleading because they dont eat other pets
I never argued, that cats never kill other animals

>>2216515
>missing the point
>hurr u made typo

ok

>>2216471
Go away crazy cat lady.
Everybody here knows stray and feral cats are bad for the environment, and quality of life.

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>>2216519
you didn't have or make a point.

>>2216521
You completely missed the point by stating, that "reproduction is reproduction" as if we were arguing about the semantics of the term. The point was, that the outcome of naturally occuring mating and directed breeding differs in qunatity and quality.

>>2216525
>that the outcome of naturally occuring mating and directed breeding differs in qunatity and quality.
that also varies by individual, by species, by season and just pure luck, it's completely and utterly irrelevant.

'reproduction' isn't static.

>>2216520
>stray and feral cats are bad for the environment, and quality of life

As they have been for millenia? strange that it's only those couple past decades that brainwashing propaganda argues they are.

>>2216528
>strange that it's only those couple past decades
cats only became a thing in the past decades, their numbers were low until after ww2.

>>2216517
Killing pets is not what makes an invasive species you retard.

>>2216533
it is what makes animals a pest though x D

>>2216533
What are you on about now? where did I say that?
fucking hell, learn to read befor trying to argue

>>2216528
Go away crazy cat lady.
There is no conspiracy here.

Human's are more invasive then cat's.

>>2216540
Even when people try really hard, they dont come accross as retarded as the real tripfag

>>2216540
two invasives doesn't make a native.

>>2216532
> their numbers were low until after ww2

>I'll make up stuff on the spot, to push my propaganda! :DDD

>>2216539
see
>>2216471

>>2216538
>they don't kill people's pets

Who the fuck cares? That's not what we're talking about. Seems to me you're making a bunch of pointless points that are not related to anything.

>>2216551
Go away crazy cat lady, nobody believes your shit.

>>2216551
>propaganda!
how you suppose commoners kept cats alive when they couldn't even feed themselves?

>>2216562
Omg so true I forgot that the history of mankind is one of hunger and malnourishment, proof being, mankind is long extinct

You're so right, cat population was kept in check not because they were pets, but because they were food for humans! thanks anon :DDD

>>2216581
>that the history of mankind is one of hunger and malnourishment
for most of the population that's the case until modern years with a few exceptions.

that's when the cat population exploded, and whenever humans aren't doing well cats aren't either.

before ww2 only the privileged had cats.

>>2216559
again: what are you on about? I never made this point my man.
>they don't kill people's pets
I never said this

>>2216584
You're a lying piece of shit

Everyone had cats in the middle-ages, because of vermin in grain and food storages

Plus, the history of mankind is not one of hunger and malnourishment. I know it's very edgy as a 14yr old to suck hard on that Military-Industrial Complex's cock and pretend that the modern ages are ages of freedom and prosperity, but guess what: starvation was not the norm in the past.

Kill yourself? yes

>>2216604
>Everyone had cats in the middle-ages
[citation needed]
>because of vermin in grain and food storages
i forgot everyone was a grain farmer in the middle-ages.

i'll need citation on that as well friendo
>the history of mankind is not one of hunger and malnourishment
that's the majority of human history, we starve a lot, then we thrive for a bit, then we starve some more.

too bad your genes didn't get filtered on the way.

Not been on /an/ for ages. Has that Bug guy kiddy got a new trip?

>>2216615
He posted right above you faggot

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>>2216615
Yup see >>2216609

>>2216609
>i forgot everyone was a grain farmer in the middle-ages.

Everyone had flour if not grain at home, people baked their own bread, are you simply retarded or downright ignorant?

Cats were always a human companion, they were un-neutered and let to roam free.

Pro-neuter anti-free roam propaganda nowadays because >>2216471

>>2216627
>Everyone had flour if not grain at home
[citation needed]

and they didn't store that flour and grain properly either, otherwise it wouldn't attract rats.
[citation needed] on that one as well.

>they were un-neutered and let to roam free.

in small numbers until recently.

>>2216627
Please see>>2216561

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>>2216631
>until recently.
>recently.

>>2216631
>they all just went to the supermarket

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>>2216631
>recently.

>>2216631
>in small numbers until recently.
in medieval times every cat was

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>>2216631
>recent
>l
>y

>>2216654
>they didn't know how to store their food.

good meme.

rats were around because of garbage, not because people couldn't store grain.

cats were pets for the privileged, lap animals, farmers didn't have useless brain parasite infested garbage animals, they had 15 children instead, most of which die before 21.

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>>2216667
>meme

>>2216667
So now they DID store flour and grain

>>2216690
if they did they'd store it properly and wouldn't need cats.

besides, cats during that day and age eating garbage rats wouldn't last very long.

>>2216694
So first you doubt that people stored their own grains.
Now you claim that they did but every single storage had no problem with pests whatsoever. A feature that we cant brag about in our modern society.
I will ignore you from now on

>>2216711
>So first you doubt that people stored their own grains.

you've provided zero evidence that they did, but I'll just go with the flow.

>A feature that we cant brag about in our modern society.

primarely because our lives don't depend on it.

how do you think outdoor cats would survive the fucking middle ages with diseases and large predators still intact in europe?

>>2216711
I ughh hate to break it to you, but until you provide citations Bugguy has been correct this entire time. Your argument is weak. Engineering isnt a new science. People knew how to store grain. Eating diseases ridden animals puts one (in this case a cat) at higher risk of getting sick. Vets dont exsist for strays and sick cats have trouble hunting

>>2216718
>mfw all large predators of europe are pretty much extinct in the west and the average lifespan of an outdoor cat is still barely scraping by adulthood.

>with modern vet care.

>while being fed.

>while being provided with shelter.

totally made for being outside, much like cubes of sugar.

>>2216718
How does that mean, that there werent any cats at all?
Where did I claim, that engineering is a new science? Where did I claim that cats had a better life expectancy? I also never claimed, that they didnt know how to store grain. Cats also have more use than catching a rat in a grain storage.

You say my argument is weak while arguing against points I never made.

Tell me, whats your stance on this: Where there domesticated cats in medieval times?

>>2216725
>that there werent any cats at all?
oh there were, in small numbers like I said, most of which belonging to the privileged.
>Where did I claim that cats had a better life expectancy?
their lifespan is already shit right now, even if you don't life near a road, their lifespan during the middle-age would be negative if outdoor cats even were a thing.
>I also never claimed, that they didnt know how to store grain.
if they were perfectly capable of storing their food, what would the need for cats be? to protect their garbage? wew lad.
>Cats also have more use than catching a rat in a grain storage.
like protecting their pile of garbage? give me a break, why would a poor farmer waste resources on that?

>>2216725
Bugguy made the point for me. Cats hung around farmers because their trashpiles provided a source of food. Farmers coulda cared less

>>2216736
they didn't hang around farmers, what kind of nutjob would keep their trashpile nearby in the fucking middle-age, that's like asking to die.

they hung around trashpiles, lived fast and died young.

they're literally just mammal versions of the cockroach.

>>2216736
So they were around humans back then. Glad you agree

>>2216727
>small numbers
>if outdoor cats even were a thing

Literally ignorant :/

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>>2216738
>but they're very compassionate
>very intelligent.
roaches literally provide you with more attention than a cat.

it's like having failing kidneys as pet, you just dialysate it for a few hours a week.

>>2216741
around wealthy humans.

which there weren't many of.
>>2216744
how you suppose outdoor cats survived?

(You)

>>2216757
bugguy desu ga?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8d3bW42aFY

Post more FUCKING CATS GODDAMMIT

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>>2216759
slaps on deck for the whole town

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>>2214848

>>2216778
atleast black people don't give you brain parasites.

>>2216778
same thing could be said about a lot of pets but I like to own a personal nigger either way

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>>2216783
I have 14 cats. They are all outside cats and allowed to run free.

>this triggers the plont

ITT: M-M-M-MAXIMUM EDGE

>>2216783
yes they do.

>>2216783
Then what is it with this funky bassline that is stuck in my brain for days now?

>cats are evil because they are carnivores

>>2215054
>Spend thousands on a 2 cat garage
>Park a car in there

>>2216796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4p6LOGQPX0

>>2216747
>how you suppose outdoor cats survived?

how you suppose outdoor cats survive?

I can only imagine how many posts in this thread have been deleted because it invaded some tumblerina's SafeSpace®. With a subject like "Cats being cats", you're asking for trouble.

>>2216319

Oh my god that room must smell awwwwwwwwwful. Just looking at that picture makes me nauseous because you know what it smells like.

inb4 the "its fine if you clean the litterbox twice an hour" crowd. Less than 3% of cat owners clean their boxes daily or more, says a survey done by Tidy Cats.

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Everyone shut up and post cats

>>2216810
yeah that's why my cat goes outside :^)

>>2216810
>>2216782

>>2216791
My dog behaves like this cat even down to how the cat uses it's paws. Any thoughts, an?

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>>2216810
I should want to grab you by the back of the head and shove your face into this litterbox so you can get a nice mouthful of gooey bitter kitty turds.

>>2216841
>Ora, you are 100 years to early to challenge the banchou of this dead tree small fry.

>>2216843
Stop posting pictures of your room

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>>2216843
jesus christ.


jesus
h
fucking
christ

What in the absolute fuck is wrong with the owner? I would not be surprised if there was a dead fucking cat in that shit heap.

>>2216829
oral fixation. it normally occurs when the animal is separated from its mother at too early an age

>>2216841
Top kek. It's a divine comedy when kittens get brutalized.

>>2217190
EDGY
wow

>>2217222
You have to admit, that picture was pretty hilarious.

>>2217222
A cat dying an awful death before it can deliver awful deaths? That's not edgy, that's gold. >>2217223 knows what I'm talking about.

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>>2217190
>any kind of animal death is comedy
Wew, it's just something that happens lad. It's not funny nor is it sad. Anti-cat posters are some of the dumbest fucks I've seen.

>>2217223
>>2217235
If you want to impress everybody with how edgy and cold you are, try >>>/b/

People here just roll their eyes at your try hard shit

>>2217245
>>2217241
> b-but M-m-muh kitters :<
>s-stop liking things t-that i d-dont
>implying I'm anti cat
I'm no more anti-cat than I am anti-spider but you better believe I'll laugh when one spider gets trapped in another spiders web.
Deal with it :^]

>>2217245
If you can't handle some cat hate then get out of /an/. This board hates them, they're disgusting.

>>2217241
>I'll laugh when one spider gets trapped in another spiders web
fuck off. I don't mind some justified cat hate, but don't be mean to the arthropods.

>>2217253
Don't blame me, the spider did it.

>>2217251
>>2217252
I can handle it. You are not too edgy for me. And it is not about cats either. It is just cringeworthy. Nobody cares how edgy you are. Stop proving it to everybody

>>2217251
I literally said it's not sad, I don't care when an animal dies because that's just nature, but it's hardly comedy.
>>2217253
Don't give me (you)s for what >>2217251 said.

>>2217253
Kill yourself.

>>2217253
EDGY AS FUCK

do you want us to call you black widowmaker from now on? What kitana do you use?

>>2217262
>>2217260
>>2217258
>i-its not f-funny
Maybe not to you

https://youtu.be/Iakw_MPyq_8

>>2217257
>t. INSECURE
I'm sorry you're projecting your feefees.

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>>2217273
>M-m-maybe if I type like this and i-i-imply th-that e-everybody is upset p-p-p-people will think I'm cool
There is a time to stop and you passed it long ago. If you want a cat abuse thread, start one of your own. Invading other threads doesn't make you special, people are just going to continue thinking you're a faggot and a retard.

>>2217273
dont you have some sonic fanfics to write edgekid?

>>2217277
>u-ur j-just t-t-trying t-t-to prove s-s-something
>*continues to try and prove his point*
>ad hom means I'm not upset :^[
Oh, anon, you're so simple--I love it.

>>2217285
>nobody mentions sonic at all
>its on ur mind
I got bad news, friend.

>>2217288
>*nothing personal kid*

please go back to /b/ edgemaster. I can almost smell your drenchcoat

>>2217291
>>2217257
>*teleports behind u*
>*takes out my edgy katana fedora maymays*
>psh, nothing personnel kid

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Felophobes need to be treated the same way we treat homophobes. Felophobes secretly have a love for cats that they know they're not capable of gratifying, so they pretend to hate them.

>>2217306
I never really understood why some people hate cats. More of a dog guy myself, but what frightens people about fucking cats? They are the epitome of clumsy little shits, why the hate?

>>2217308
It's because cats are disgusting, kill wildlife, shit in people's yards, show no affection, etc.

>>2217310
Yeah, WHY do you think they are disgusting.

>>2217310
t. someone who has never owned a cat. Cats can be plenty affectionate if you raise them correctly. Much like dogs, different breeds have different temperaments, and will grow a "personality" based off the way they are treated in life.

Also, what's wrong with hunting? Do you hate weasels too?

>>2217314
Whenever I walk into a cat owner's home, I can tell immediately. Their house smells like shit and piss. Doesn't matter if they clean the litter every day, you can't get rid of the ammonia stench.

>inb4 huurrr my cat doesn't stink!

>>2217315
Native wildlife is different. Cats aren't native; they're invasive. They kill native wildlife.

>>2217316
I pretty much have similar problems with my dog. This cant be the real problem here.

>>2217317
>muh made up categories

>>2217319
Sure, if you don't bathe it or let it shit and piss in the house. A lot of dog owners houses stink, but you at least have a chance at avoiding that if you're responsible. If you have a cat, your house will reak no matter what.

>>2217317
see
>>2216797

have vegans gone too far?

>>2217317
It's hardly that different at all. You're delusional if you think that the small dent cats are making means anything at all to the overall rodent and bird populous in their area.

Additionally, I've known plenty of dogs who hunt. It's not just cats, so you have no reason to hate them and not other things too.

>>2217321
Go look up what "invasive" means you retard. It's not made up.

>>2217327
Dog owners don't let their dogs roam unattended like shit cat owners. And billions of birds per year is hardly a "small dent" you fucking imbecile.

God I hate cat owners. They're even worst than cats.

>>2217323
Well, I dont know many cat owners who let their cats just randomly shit and piss in the house. Seems like you are really trying hard to find a reason, but you just hate cats for no good reason (which is fine)

>>2217329
>billions of birds per year
[citation needed]

>>2216472
OY VEY

REMEMEBER THE 6 BILLION

>I wonder who could be behind this post

>>2217328
the way you use it, it is. Domesticated cats arent a invasive species. You are just triggered over some rats and birds
Please stay in school and dont use terms you dont understand yet

>>2217331
We cite this for you dumbasses every day, and you ignore it. I know you'll just ignore it anyway so Google it you lazy, retarded fuck

>>2217333
trips of truth

>>2216785
>banned for racism

The mods on this website are fucking pussies

>>2217333
Just because you like your ammonia drenched pet doesn't mean you get to pick what is and what isn't invasive

"an "invasive species" is defined as a species that is: 1) non-native (or alien) to the ecosystem under consideration and. 2) whose introduction causes or is likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to human health."

Cats that are left outdoors are invasive. This is why I kill them. Their owners don't care anyway.

>>2217334
>namecalling
getting desperate with your argumentation?
Can we have an actual discussion about ecosystems on /an/ or do you just want to tell people how fucking much you hate cats?

>>2217338
>Their owners don't care
So basically, what you're saying is, you never actually killed anyone's cat?

>>2217338
Even if they would be invasive. Whats so bad about this?

>>2217339
There needs to be a stickies thread for you retards. We go over this every day but you're too thick skilled to comprehend that your furry little shit could possible have any negative effects on the ecosystem by killing birds constantly.

Not to mention the fact that leaving cats outdoors is straight up neglect. That's why I kill them; their owners don't care about them and they're bad for the environment.

>>2217338
Everything in a city/town, that isnt a domesticated animal or a human is the invasive species.
I dont care about "natives". Survival of the fittest, bitch

>>2217342
Nothing if you don't give a shit about the ecosystem.

>>2217344
And this is why I kill outdoor cats. Their owners are careless and negligent.

>>2217343
>more insults and mental breakdown
I dont even have a cat. But I get it, you just want to shit out hate and dont want to have a discussion about ecosystems.

>>2217347
No, I don't want to have a discussion about the ecosystem with you retards because if you actually cared, you could do 30 seconds of research and discover that outdoor cats are terrible for the ecosystem.

Again, we have this discussion every day. I've discovered that cat owners are just genuinely retarded.

>>2217345
What specifically is so bad about it? Any studies that show the huge impact of cats on the completely native and natural urban ecosystem?

>>2217347
The cat owners always say "oh I don't have a cat" when they realize that cat owners are stupid as shit.

We can smell that toxoplasmosis from miles away bud.

>>2217348
I understood already. You really seem upset and not like you could have an actual discussion anyway.

>>2217338
>This is why I kill them

Fuck you anon, some cats need to go outdoors or else they get depressed, some family is crying over their family member killed by your neckbeard ass. My burmese cat is better than any shitty chihuahua, pom, or pug.
Are you white? Because if you aren't and you live in a first world country, your logic says we should lynch you.

Burn in hell

>inb4 triggered
Cats are smart as fuck and anyone with a shitty cat is generally a shitty owner

Also, I fucking love dogs

>>2217351
not an argument

>>2217346
Except some cats biologically need to go outdoors a part of their day

Fuck you, id shoot any edgy pet killer in the spine

>>2217353
If your cat gets depressed because it can't go outside, YOURE a shitty owner. It means you can't keep it stimulated. And when your cat disappears/gets run over, you'll take no responsibility even though you put it in that situation.

And no, I doubt any of these cats owners cared much. They will shed a few false tears, but if the actually cared I never would've have the opportunity to dispose of their pests.

>>2217355
No domesticated cat needs to go outside. Cat owners just use this as an excuse because they are too lazy to keep their pet stimulated.

>>2217356
>if you love something, put it in a cage

>>2217357
not everybody is a NEET you know

>>2217356
Are you a vet? Some cats legitimately need free roaming space and a large environment a part of their day.

>keep it stimulated

Not everyone has a furball cat that doesn't move.

>>2217361
>hurrrr playing with a cat is too hard>

>2217358
Never mentioned a cage. Indoors is not a cage, dumbfuck

>>2217357
Burmese cats literally need to go outside

>your domestic zoo whale doesnt need the ocean
>you're a shitty owner if you cant keep it stimulated enough to keep it from wanting to go outside

>>2217365
There is no domesticated cat that needs to go outside. If you feel your cat needs to go outside, supervise it or at the very least keep it on your property.

That's too hard for lazy, NEET cat owners though

>>2217363

>hurr durr every cat only needs a fucking string to keep it occupied its whole life

There's a reason some dogs are walked you fucking idiot. Same logic applies with cats except they do terribly with leashes

>>2217366
More like the working population, do you know anything about cat behavior? Some need to go outside because they are bred to be outdoor rat control

>>2217363
Learn to reply and learn what an analogy is, you autistic newfag

>>2217366
Why would you supervise a cat? what?

>>2217367
>I'm too fat and lazy to play with my cat

>>2217371
My point was that it was a retarded analogy.

>>2217373
If you care about it you supervise it. It's no coincidence that every cat that gets run over by a car wasn't being supervised. It's no coincidence that every cat I've killed hasn't been supervised.

>>2217375
Well, you are basically saying, that a cat needs to be locked indoors for no reason. That sounds like a cage/prison to me

>>2217367

No they don't, cat owners are just shit people like their shit animals and don't bother to train them. Dogs don't naturally just take to leashes, you have to train them.

>>2217369

There are no working breeds of cats and none of them need to go outside.

ITT

>Hurr durr cats don't need their natural environment at all
>we should keep them locked indoors their whole lives away from the sunlight, plants, and grass.
>everyone who wants a cat should own a fucking zoo or I'll murder their pets

>>2217376
So I have to follow my cat all the day long for the extreme unlikely case it runs into a car or a psychopath. roger roger. thanks for your professional animal advice

>>2217378
>for no reason

How about 1) so it doesn't kill native wildlife and 2) for safety. Again, no coincidence that every outdoor cat that gets killed (by me or something else) is unsupervised.

Cat owners are so retarded. They don't take care of their pets and then act surprised when they disappear or get killed.

>>2217378

Cats should be imprisoned, like every other pet. When they get out, they should die, like escapee prisoners do.

>>2217381
So you don't care about what happens to your cat. Gotcha. Why even have a pet if you don't care about it or take care of it?>>2217380

>>2217375
I run cross country and am probably more fit than you have ever been in your whole life

Cats don't do well with leashes you autist

And you don't decide how cats are meant to be kept by killing everyone's petsx you unironic psychopath

Killing animals recreationally is highly tied to mental issues

>>2217380
>I'm too lazy to supervise my pet while it's outdoors

>>2217381

>I have to be a responsible pet owner and do what every other pet owner in the world has to do? UNFAIR WAAHHH YOU MEAN CAT HATING BULLY

Shitbeastfags are the SJWs of pet owning

>>2217385
I kill cats because they're on my property and kill birds. I wouldn't have to if heir dumbfuck owners would take care of them.

Cats can do well on leashes, shit cat owners are just too lazy to train them. At the very least keep your shit pet on your property. Again, too much for an obese NEET though

>>2217385

Killing pests is tied to nothing. Is everyone who kills cockroaches a psycho? No. Catfags are the psycho ones, they demand animals like coyotes and bald eagles be killed because they DARE to be predators that eat their stupid pets.

>>2217382
>1) so it doesn't kill native wildlife
so? why shouldnt it? It is a fucking carnivore and the animals it eats arent endangered (most of them are even pests). Really dont see the point in protecting some randome wildlife. If the cat doesnt kill the mouse, some other animal will do that. And there are enough mice for everyone

>2) for safety
"Imprison everything you want to protect"

>>2217383
EDGY
>>>/b/

>>2217384
nice assumption there, mate.
I dont claim to walk around and kill random cats

>>2217396
Again, you're the reason I kill outdoor cats. You dumbfucks don't give a shit how much damage your shitty pet does, and you don't give a shit about the well being of your pet anyway.

>>2217387
yes. It also doesnt need to be supervised

>>2217388
jealous as fuck

>>2217387
>you need to follow your cat around for five hours a day or else I'll kill it while having an orgasm because I like to pretend I'm protecting the environment like an autistic vegan vigilante

>>2217399
That wasn't an assumption. You said so yourself.

>>2217401
>no argument at all

ok, bye

>>2217385

>Dogs have leashes
>Ferrets have leashes
>Birds have leashes
>Small rodents have leashes
>Responsible cat owners have leashes


>CATS ARE JUST SPECHUL SNOWFLAKE ANIMALS THAT CAN'T HANDLE LEASHES GAIZ

>>2217402
Sure it doesn't, if you don't give a shot about its well being.

>>2217403
No cat needs to go out for four or five hours a day.

>>2217396
>le ebdy maymay
>i am of showing them B^]

>>2217404
nope
nice strawman, tho

>>2217391
>obese
>150 lbs and run a 5k in 18:30

>leash
>durr cats and dogs are the same

>I'm protecting the environment

Stop pretending you aren't a deranged virgin who gets off to killing animals

>>2217405
No, I'm not going to argue with it because you already said you don't give a shit. You don't care about how many animals your shit pet kills and you don't care if your shit pet dies. What is there to argue? That's why I take care of the problem myself in my neighborhood.

>>2217380
>their natural environment at all
the natural environment of a domestic cat is your house, hence the common name HOUSE cat.
>away from the sunlight
cats don't benefit from sunlight.
>plants, and grass.
I never knew grass wasn't a plant, tell me more.

>>2217412
I wouldn't have to kill cats if they were, at bare minimum, kept on their owners property. Any cat that I kill is because it ended up on my property. You people are too fucking lazy to even stop them from shitting on other people's lawns, what do you expect?

>>2217403

Removing invasive species protects the environment, yes. I'm glad you finally understand this very basic principle if ecology and conservation.

>>2217408
>if you don't give a shot about its well being.
but I do.
It doesnt need to be supervised. When the area where it roam doesnt have any streets, there is literally nothing to worry about

>>2217395
Never advocated for that, your goalposts are moving, anyone who wants non-insect sized animals to die for no food-related reason is autistic

>>2217413
>you already said you don't give a shit
nope
nice strawman tho
You are so edgy. We are really shocked how coldblooded you are

>>2217413
Stop larping.

>>2217408
Mine certainly does according to our vet

>>2217414
(You)

>>2217423
Your vet is retarded. Unless you adopted a wildcat it doesn't need to go outside at all.

>>2217417
>invasive species
stay in school

>>2217417
>kills invasive rats
>Invasive

>>2217426
>Your vet is retarded
DUNNING-KRUGER AT FULL FORCE

>>2217429
They kill plenty of native birds.

>>2217426
>it doesnt need sunlight at all ever
>it doesn't need grass at all ever
>it doesn't need to hunt tiny rats at all ever

Technically it doesn't just like you, but not going outside has really made you an alpha male right anon?

>>2217412

Nice blog faggot. I hike 8 miles up a mountain wearing a 50 pound pack you skinnyfat limp-wristed queer, no one cares about your sissy flat pavement marathon.

Dogs and cats are the same, they're domesticated animals that need to be supervised outside

>>2217433
Cats aren't smart enough to differentiate between inside and outside. The only reason your cat probably begs to go outside is because you're too lazy to play with it and keep it stimulated.

>>2217431
Like what fucking crows?

Is there a bird holocaust outside your house?

Do you know you can scare them away and they remember not to come back?

>>2217437
Billions of birds die a year due to your shitty animals. And no, scaring them away doesn't work nearly as well as killing them.

>>2217427

Catfags are so delusional they think they know more than scientists and that everything we know about biology and ecology is wrong

>>2217429

Using an invasive species to control another invasive species has never worked, and cats are more damaging than rats. Educate yourself.

>>2217434
>pavement
>cross country

Try again

you must be one of those hikers that kills all the wildlife and shits on the trails they use

Do you also kill the invasive horses that go along the trails in the name of the environment?

Do you kill every small mammal that is unlucky enough to cross into your property instead of scaring it off?

>>2217433

>What is a window

>Cats don't need those other two things at all ever

Lol

>>2217441
>cats are more damaging than rats
>than disease carrying vermin


>billions
>oy vey remember the six billion birds

>>2217448
Maybe in the shittier country you live in they kill mostly rats, but where I am they kill mostly birds.

>>2217450
You mean America? They kill a few invasive lizards here

>>2217433
>it doesnt need sunlight at all ever
why would a originally nocturnal animal need sunlight.
>it doesn't need grass at all ever
you can grow grass indoors.
>it doesn't need to hunt tiny rats at all ever
it doesn't, whether it's a live rat or a laser makes no difference to a cat.

if anything you could just run around your house naked since your tiny dick will remind them of a rat.

>>2217464
>imagining other people's dicks
Lol ur a fag

>>2217456
Them killing some invasive species doesn't negate the fact that they also kill native species.

>>2214848
>>>2217385

>Dogs get lost if you let them go
>Ferrets get lost if you let them go
>Birds get lost if you let them go
>Small rodents get lost if you let them go
>cat owners know they don't need a leash


>ONE RACE THE ANIMAL RACE YOU RACIST

Textbook case of shilling, even if it's from a 12yr old retard trying to be edgy: he takes the "arguments" from the pro-neuter, anti-free roam propagandists.

If anything, this convinced me to NEVER neuter my pets, and to let them roam outside. Shit might happen to them, but live and let live.
Better to be free a couple years than be genitally mutilated and kept indoors for 20.

>>2217475
Cats get lost, disappear, and get killed constantly outside. That's why outdoor cats live drastically shortened lifespans.

>>2217471
They dont here, we actually feed our cats and neuter them so there isn't a billion starving cats killing everything like in South america

>>2217481
>>2217481
They don't kill them to eat them retard. They kill them either way.

>muh cat it's speshul! It doesn't kill anything!

>>2217479
If they do that they are not outdoor cats

Outdoor cats are cats that need a lot of extra stimuli and can find their way home on a day to day basis. Not all cats do that.

Shills pls. /an/ isn't even that fast. Research before you shitpost all over the board.

>>2217483
My cat is afraid of birds and only kills rats and lizards.

>>2217485
Any outdoor cat can disappear or get run over. That's why they live drastically shortened lifespans. If you think your pest is somehow special, you're an idiot, and hopefully you'll realize how much an idiot you are when your pest doesn't come back.

>>2217487
>muh cat, it's speshul!!

>>2217488
11 years with cat

>>2217492
>muh cat, it's speshul!

Just because it has gotten lucky so far doesn't mean that that can't change at any moment.

neutered cats require special cat food? what kind?

>>2219200
they don't. all cats should eat wet food only though, esp. males.

>>2219200
The kind that prevents fucking up their fragilized urinary system
They're more prone to kidney problems for some reasons

>>2219234
that's honestly scary
I honestly don't want to let my cat out but she just sprints out when we let our guard down and open the door.

I want to just tie her to something when there is a risk of her running outside.

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>>2216843
>when you have to shit but your owner does not clean your sand and your primal instict makes you dig your own shit so you can bury your fresh shit under your old shit

>>2219511
if there's too much shit in their basket they'll just take a dump on your new couch like the filthy rats they are.

All cats are wild. Most of them can survive just hunting. That's why you let your cat roam free unless you hate cats and freedom.

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>>2219525
What if I only hate cats?

>>2215133
topkek

>>2219211
I feed my outdoor cat dry grain-rich cat treats exclusively. Claiming they need wet food is nonsense

>>2214848
You knew full well what you were doing when you posted that pic, didn't you?