Horse General

>>2210176

I don't think mustangs are wild horses yet. They're still feral, even if they have mild differences from captive horses. In maybe a few more centuries they will be considered wild.

>>2211337
>Hooves are like diamonds (not the best comparison but stick with me). Really hard and tough. Things are gonna have a hard time scratching them and wearing it down . But, if you put to much weight on them they'll fracture and break very easily.

..No. Whether a horse needs to be shod depends more on the surface it's worked on than the weight it's carrying. A ranch horse that does fine barefoot on grassland while carrying a 200 pound rider might start getting split/cracked hooves when carrying a 100 pound rider on roads. Carrying/pulling extra weight certainly contributes to wear, but not nearly as much as working horses on hard surfaces, the effects of breeding for size/strength/whatever over hoof strength (the mentioned example of TBs is a great one), excessive grains in their diet, or the fact that domesticated horses are often stabled or kept in limited grazing, which means less steady conditioning on dry grassland and more exposure to damp or muddy conditions that cause weakening of the hoof wall.

I also don't think many people who have ever trimmed a hoof would make the comparison to diamonds in texture, you can't usually carve down a diamond with a knife and some nippers. Hooves are hard, but they're not glassy/brittle, they're well-evolved to function as shock absorbers.

>I have no experience with horses
>but I have Google so let me tell you why everything you do with your horses is cruel and wrong
Why are people like this allowed to exist?

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>look at my shiny hooves
>LOOK AT THEM

>>2211859
From what I understand, horses vary so much from animal to animal, that it led to a bunch of different schools of thought popping up.

There are however some universal truths that all of them share. But the only one I can think of is the old adage "Don't walk behind a horse".

Of course, even this requires further explaining. In truth, if your horses are very familiar with you, AND they know you're there, it's fine to walk behind them. This assumes however your horse isn't an asshole, because those horses exist, and are a massive pain to deal with.

Most owners don't sneak right behind their horse then surprise them with a loud noise and large movement.

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I used to have pony like the one in the pic. He's long gone now. Miss that buddy.

My dad had a few beers with him sometimes. Pony was crazy about beer, tho he only got to lick a few last drops of the bottle every once in a while.

>>2213136
small hooves. not impressed.

>>2211859
People that think because they've casually looked something up makes them an expert exist in every sector. The best we can do is track them down and burn them and their entire bloodline to death in a wicker man and the second best thing we can do is ignore them.

>>2213584
My buddy has a shetland that's mad about wine. Mix some in with her feed now and again for a treat.

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hoers

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METAL

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best hoers

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>>2213822

>>2213136
>ywn own a horse this magnificent
Why live?

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>>2213809
>I'm not acting suspicious, YOU'RE ACTING SUSPICIOUS.

Can I request some horse reaction images, pls?

>>2213584

I wouldn't offer a pony entire bottles of vodka or anything, but a beer is generally considered fine. Dark beers in particular can be quite good for them, and people anecdotally find it works for anhidrosis, it's not uncommon to give some working horses a daily bottle or more.

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>>2214085

How bad is the horse overpopulation issue? Is the overpopulation issue due to bad breeding, or is it mostly because of feral horses?

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did you just say shit bout my mustache hoers, m8? do I have to come over and reck your shit m8?

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>>2214085

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>show me it.

>>2214234

Here in the UK, the biggest problem is people who just can't afford to keep their horses any more. It's not on a massive scale but we've definitely had problems with horses being dumped and most equine charities are at maximum capacity. Our semi-wild ponies also have to be culled for the same reasons, there's not enough homes to keep the population down (they're generally rounded up every year so that a number can be auctioned off and trained) so sometimes you just have to shoot a few and feed them to zoo animals.

Bad breeding does happen, but not on a major scale due to the expense and the fact that most horses need to be functional working animals. Still, there are definitely people breeding horses they probably shouldn't, then discovering no one wants a mediocre yearling and you need to put three years and considerable expense into it to sell it off and take a loss because it's now a mediocre 3-4 year old that will cost as much to keep as a much better quality horse.

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>>2214085

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on my way to steal your bitch

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doing a weekend 1 credit work shop on equine therapy and natural horsemanship through my college (a guy named Tim Hayes is teaching it). mostly working with Spanish mustangs and i have to say thay are amazing horses. The farm we are at also has one of the horses that played Hidalgo up here too.

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>>2214085
hurrrr

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>>2214085

>>2214281
I think in the US it might be more of a breeding issue. I've seen very poor people with not much land still take care of a couple horses fine. In fact I'd say a good amount of poor rural people have horses when they shouldn't. Land isn't as expensive here, and animal welfare is rarely regulated.

At least they do something with the horse meat. Here they were shipping them to Mexico for a while for slaughter because it was illegal to slaughter horses. Then when people realized the horses were just being slaughtered elsewhere, they legalized it but idk if it ever came back like it used to. I think Mexico is still mainly used for horse slaughter.

>>2214382

Poor people breeding horses contributes but isn't the biggest issue, since they'll most likely produce 1-4 foals max due to the sheer cost of it all.

Your far bigger issue comes from large scale operations (racing and halter being the worst offenders) which will breed 40+ mares a season under the assumption that they'll get a small handful of foals worth owning. The rest end up in auction, and generally at slaughterhouses.

>>2214386

*1-4 foals in their lifetime, I should say. Generally, once they've gone through the costs of producing one foal (which can easily be $10-15K) and realize that it may only sell for meat price or slightly below that most people get over their fascination with breeding.

>>2214382

Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all if over-breeding is more common in the US, it's difficult here as very few poor people own enough land to keep a horse on, let alone several. The mustang situation is probably much worse too, we're not exactly overrun with ponies. It's pretty manageable and not really a problem at all beyond the public outrage it causes when word gets out they're being culled instead of freely roaming the moors with the wind blowing majestically in their manes, but the fact is not many people want to keep an 11 hand high untrained pony alive enough to actually buy it themselves. Slaughtering some for human consumption and export would probably be the best way to keep the rest of the wild-living population going, but people here also get pretty outraged over horse slaughter, so it'll probably never happen.

>>2214451
Why does it cost so much? The feeding? I'm assuming vet costs aren't included because poor breeders don't usually use vets even in dire situations

>>2215212

Vet costs associated with breeding are actually pretty minimal as long as nothing goes wrong. A small handful of checks, some specialized shots, and that's about it.

There's the cost of additional feed, since the mare needs quite a bit more through pregnancy and lactation on top of an extra mouth to feed (for a minimum of 2 years). You have to factor in the cost of the stud and/or transportation, no matter how minimal it is because there's almost always something, as well as the loss of the mare's productivity (assuming she worked as, say, a plow horse). But even those aren't horrible.

The main costs come later in the additional upkeep. There are farrier and dental fees, anything else medical the foal will need (such as castration), and extra housing costs (such as additional straw or isolated paddock). The foal will also require training and the equipment that comes with. In today's market nobody's going to look twice at an unbroken animal, so the foal must be trained for saddle and/or harness. Most people do outsource this because training a green horse is so daunting, especially a stud colt.

With the market so vastly over-saturated, you're hard-pressed to get more than a couple hundred dollars for a young and inexperienced horse without any sort of pedigree or titling behind it. Even if you want to suggest that they're so poor they won't hire, say, a farrier, they're still going to put far more money into the foal than they'll get back just keeping them both fed.

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smooch the horse

>>2215783
I would fucking love to

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>>2215783
Don't kiss them horses.

This seems like a better place than /b/ or /adv/ for this:

I'm terrified of horses, like phobia-level afraid. I am scared because they are huge, powerful animals that seem to be on a hair-trigger and spaz out over the smallest thing... And accidentally turn your head into pudding. I had a panic attack at the beach when some police horses walked by, 10-feet away. My girlfriend loves horses and wants to take riding lessons together, and I'd like to indulge her, but I just can't be near them. I think they are beautiful animals, and pictures/videos of them are fine, but I can't bear to be around them.
What can I do to get over this fear?
Am I being a little bitch?

>>2215960

No, they're huge potentially dangerous animals and a healthy concern for what they're capable of isn't a bad thing.

For the most part, though, if you're calm and respectful they will be as well. It helps that the sort of horses they use for adult novices are about as close to bombproof as you can find. And, considering you'll be riding in a very calm and familiar environment to the horse, it's unlikely there'll be a freakout.

I think the best way to go about this is to head to the stable you're considering in advance and discuss your concerns with the instructor. They should be able to show you how to properly approach them, meet the ones you'd be paired with, etc., and judge from there if you can actually handle this.

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>>2215963
I remember when I was a tiny boy they put me on a horse at a riding center and he went mental. I stayed on though and from that moment I knew I wanted to get more involved with them.

That most likely won't happen though.

>>2215960
Horses are generally chill, they freak out over weird stuff sometimes. But generally the older they get the less fucks they give.

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>>2217014
>u ain't geddin dat shit nigga NAW FUCK NAW

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>fuck you
>AND FUCK YOU IN PARTICULAR

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>>2217889
Foals are so stupid looking I love it.

>>2217913
Lethal white?

>>2217916

Possible. But, since that color is perfectly possible on a healthy foal, that's the more likely assumption until there's proof otherwise.

>>2217954
The dam looks so sad though.

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it is true that horses can't climb up stairs?

>>2218192

There's a similar rumor that cows can't walk down stairs, but both handle them just fine.

>>2214303
Mules aren't allowed you jackass.

>>2217920
Someone's been saving all my horse pics on 4chancers again.

>>2217855
horses are such pleasure addicts, fucking hell.

>>2218313
Mules are cuties, don't be raycis

>>2217523
Jesus what the hell is going on here? Couldn't that do serious damage?

>>2218391
horses love to play rough sometimes.
sure, a human would probably be a vegetable after that but horses pull shit like this with each other all the time

>>2218340
I just like the way she smoozes back like "maybe if they don't notice I'm moving I'll continue getting scratched"

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>>2218391

Why do some horses chew on me when I brush them and some don't? I get it's like grooming but are the others just kind of jerks?

>>2218522
the ones that do apparently really like you while the others just kind of tolerate you around and not care much. I wouldn't say jerks but apparently just don't like you as much as the others do.

>>2217916
No, look at the mane. Also his muzzle in the last photo.

>>2218522
Some have been taught not to try to reciprocate with humans. Also, the degree that the horse is enjoying the grooming is often the deciding factor. If you're grooming and horse and he's "meh" about it, he's not going to try to get you to continue by bribing you with mutual grooming.

>>2218751

Lethal white can display patches of grey.

>>2218804
I didn't know that. Thanks!

>>2218591
>>2218755
Well that's good. Some definitely like/bribe me but some probably don't hate me.

>>2215161
hot

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So, stupid fa/tg/uy here. I know very little about horses, but I'd like to learn.

How difficult is it to ride in forest and tougher terrain? I guess it comes down to a lot of things, like speed, condition of the horse and that sort of thing, but when roughly does it get too tough to ride through?
How hard would it be to ride in something like pic related?

How big is the gender difference when it comes to horses? Stallions are bigger and stronger, I think, but how much difference is there really between a stallion and a mare of same age and breed? What about geldings?

Is the usage of spurs cruel? I'm of the impression that it usually isn't but as I said, I really don't know my shit here.

Also, if possible, I'd like to know about a breed (or breeds?) of horses that make for good saddle horses that originates from France. Particularly southern/southeastern France. But I'm not picky, I'd just like to get some idea of how my character's horse would look.
As fun as I think big draft horses are, I'm looking for something that's nice for speed and endurance.

These are probably all really, severely dumb questions, but I'd like to know at least something about horses before I try roleplaying an experienced rider from a horsebreeding background.

Right now I wish I still lived rurally enough to have friends with horses.

>>2217893
How can something this big possibly be this cute?

>>2217906
Now that's just the greatest thing I've ever seen.

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>>2219971
>How difficult is it to ride in forest and tougher terrain?
If not on some form of trail, extremely. It can also be very dangerous for the horse.
>How big is the gender difference when it comes to horses?
Noticeable. Stallions are quite aggressive. Mares are more passive (except when they come into heat). Geldings are typically the calmest of the bunch, but it can vary from horse to horse. Age is also another large factor.
>I'd just like to get some idea of how my character's horse would look.
Why would the horse breed need to be of French origin? People have always used horses from all over, not just from their own country.
>I'm looking for something that's nice for speed and endurance
Arabian-Thoroughbred. Though not a retarded one bred for purely for looks. Pretty much all racing horses are Thoroughbreds.

>but I'd like to know at least something about horses before I try roleplaying an experienced rider from a horsebreeding background
So you're not actually going to be riding? In that case, you'll probably be fine just picking a breed, and reading about it on Wikipedia or another online source.

>>2219973
>Stallions are quite aggressive. Mares are more passive
What about physical strength and condition? Will a stallion be significantly stronger?

>Why would the horse breed need to be of French origin?
It doesn't have to be, it's just an idea I had.
Everything's taking placed in a fairly contained area around Grenoble, and my character is local. Just thought it would be fun to ride a local breed, if there was one.

>Arabian-Thoroughbred
Arabians sound nice, reading from the Wikipedia page.

>So you're not actually going to be riding?
Oh, I'm going to be riding. My character's family has been breeding horses for the last three generations, and he's grown up around it, but he's not currently involved.

Thanks a lot, Anon. This is really helpful.
I know that the realism of things don't matter a lot to the campaign I'm playing, and that my GM knows even less about horses than me, but this is a good excuse for me to learn.

>>2219971

Percherons are quite an interesting breed. Their ancestors (somewhat smaller and lighter than the modern day breed, but recognisable as the same horse type) were ridden by French knights, so they're a good option for a strong, imposing-looking horse that's still athletic and capable of galloping and clearing fences. I don't know what setting you're going for, but they would be plausible as a destrier or heavy hunter type horse, especially if your character is quite a big guy. If it's a historical setting, many horse-breeders were breeding types (e.g. a hunter, a racing horse, a draught animal) and not concerned with the purity of a breed (many breeds were only formally recognised as breeds and had their studbooks closed in the last century or so), so there would be no issue with your character riding a hunter that was bred from the great horses of Perche with a racing sire to add speed or whatever if you wanted a strong but fast horse with a nod to the region you're playing in.

Another option for the south of France - Camargue horses. They live semi-feral in marshland and they're generally white in adulthood, so they're striking-looking, very hardy horses that tend to have great stamina and are athletic and intelligent enough to think for themselves. They're a bit smaller than you're probably looking for, but they can carry adults and again, there's no issue with an experienced horse breeder character mixing breeds if he wanted a sure-footed, hardy mount that's able to deal with tough terrain, but has a bit more size and speed.

>>2219980
If it's in the past Warlanders were an attempt to get an idea for what a destrier would look like.

>>2219980

Stallions are stronger and faster, but not by very much (. Physically there are some differences between the genders (such as a larger crest on a stallion), but they're subtle and easy to miss. This is especially true if you're talking about horses like modern halter Arabians, whose breeders prefer more effeminate studs.

If you're looking at something like a war mount, stallions can be very distractible and aggressive. They can also be pretty loud. The Bedouin tribes prized mares as mounts, especially for raids, because they wouldn't call out to enemy horses and alert them that they were coming.

If this is a historical thing, I second >>2220002. Arabians didn't establish themselves in middle and western Europe until the 18th century, and one showing up in France would either be the horse of a foreigner or an imported luxury. Your standard horse in pre-19th century France is most likely to be a cob-type.

>>2220009

Forgot to fill in my parenthesis.

I meant to say that in studies of racehorses, you find a difference of maybe a second of time difference between the genders. In most other disciplines, mares and stallions compete alongside each other because there isn't much advantage one way or another.

The difference in representation numbers tends to have far more to do with breeding practices (emphasis on building up a stud for a high fee vs. the ability to send a mare straight to the breeding shed without competing) than ability.

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>>2219993
I'll look into both Percherons and Camaragues. You're right about the looks of the Camargue horses being pretty striking, even if they're kind of small.
My character isn't that big, a slim-to-average man around 5'10''. Though I have between 50 - 100 lbs that I'm likely to be travelling with, depending on circumstance.

As for setting, we're in the near future, a few decades from now (following a soft apocalypse).

>>2220002
I don't know if it's applicable to this campaign or character, but that sounds useful in the future. I'll keep the Warlander in mind.
Pretty hoers.

>>2220009
>>2220012
>Stallions are stronger and faster, but not by very much
Thanks. I was looking at some statistics for endurance riding, and that seems to be dominated by Arabian geldings and some mares.

>If you're looking at something like a war mount, stallions can be very distractible and aggressive. They can also be pretty loud.
I'm not going for a warhorse, at least not primarily, so a more docile mare or gelding sounds preferable.

Thanks to all three of you, you've been really helpful.

>>2220490

>was looking at some statistics for endurance riding, and that seems to be dominated by Arabian geldings and some mares.

I never thought about this. I just figured that endurance would be as stallion-centric as other disciplines, but it actually makes a ton of sense not to be. Historically the Middle Eastern/Asian cultures valued mares far more than stallions, to the point that bloodlines follow the dam line over the stud used in the western world. That respect they learned from their forefathers hasn't left, and that's great.

>>2220706
Look at something like the Tevis Cup:
>Of the winning horses through 2014, 74% have been geldings, 20% mares, and 6% stallions.
Both winners since 2014 have been mares as well. And it's almost only Arabians that win.
http://teviscup.org/results/tevis-cup-winners

is an horse a athlete?

>>2220774

If you confine your definition to someone who competes in an athletic competition, then absolutely. Their physical strength and skill is at least half, of the equation in any given equestrian competition, and often times more.

>>2220725
Yeah, but how about gender stats of the horses that COMPETED, in total. I would guess that it is similar. Most people use geldings because they tend to be less complicated than mares and stallions. In some countries/cultures, bringing a stallion to an event is frowned on. In the U.S., many group events specifically ask that you don't bring any stallions. Handling a stallion is more work. Mares less so. Geldings, by comparison, are easier to handle. Most people aren't competing at a high enough tier to need that little bit of additional performance that a stallion can give versus a gelding, or the willingness to trade off the ease of working a gelding versus the extra diligence required to work a stallion.

>>2220713
nice mem

>>2220780
nice job falling for the meme you memer

>>2221263
>>>/sp/

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less talking, more image posting.

also

>SMOOCH

>>2214281
I'm late for the party, but. Can you adopt a horse from those charities?

>>2221614
That's cute. My horses are very suspicious of the hose when it's on.

>>2220713
fuck you for commenting on god damn everything.

>>2221586
Can't comment on the UK ones but here in the US, most of these "charities" charge significant "adoption fees" for their horses. What it generally ends up being is equivalent to buying a horse from someone clingy and paranoid with lots of legal strings attached. Things like "no breeding" (which, don't get me wrong, is a terrible idea but if you buy the damn horse you should be allowed to breed it if you choose) and right of first refusal and if they feel you aren't taking good enough care of it (which can vary widely depending on who is doing the evaluation), they can basically take it back from you and not be obligated to refund your money. Some of these groups/agencies have the "adopter" (basically "purchaser") sign paperwork that gives the group the right to come onto your land at any time to check on the condition of the horse. I don't know why anyone would deal with one of these invasive organizations when you could just buy one cheap, with no strings attached, from Craigslist or from the auction yard.

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Has anyone tried mare milk? The Mongols swore by it.

>>2222067
Thankyou very much for the answer. But wouldn't it be easier to find homes for all these horses if they didn't charge for the horse and if they weren't so strict? I mean, some fiscalization is nice, but not too much.

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>>2221614

>a real horse visits /mlp/

>>2222332
These places are very rarely powered by pixie dreams and horses need to eat. Overheads.

>>2222591

A lot of their animals will also require medical care from emaciation, overgrown hooves, etc. which needs to be recouped if they're going to continue to rescue other animals.

Besides that, fees and regulations act as gate keepers to try and ensure that whoever gets this animal has the knowledge and resources to prevent it from getting back into the neglected state they acquired it at. Regulations can be nuts, but it's not surprising that they get very particular considering what these groups have seen people do to animals they've come to care for. It does deter a lot of would-be adopters, which is unfortunate, but it's still understandable.

>>2222218

If you've ever had raw cow's milk, it's not much different. Sweet and fatty.

>>2222605
Ever had dolphin milk? Would make the ultimate milkshake. The master shake.

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and then everyone died
whole day without a post, damn

>>2224119
wow that filename is wrong

>>2221615
Adorableness overcharge

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>>2224109
It was an international holiday though.

>>2224412
I wonder if a horse accidentaly broke a fence because they rubbed their butt too hard against it.

>>2224421

A fence that's properly constructed and maintained a butt scratch shouldn't be enough to break it. But people use bad barricades that they don't take care of all the time (I've seen horses contained in chicken wire ffs) so I'm sure it's common.

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>>2224421
Definitely. I came to find a horse in the courtyard just chilling because his poorly constructed fence lived no longer. I wager the exact situation you said has happened at least a dozen times.

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>>2224412
This is why you put scratch posts.

No, this is why you use electric fence along the inside of your board fence.

>>2224453
lol, the white horse
>u ok there?
>is she bullying you?

I get the feeling stallions are too glorified. Why, if they are mostly jerks, violent and hard to handle?

>>2224547
But how are they gonna scratch their butts then?

>>2224930
Humans have never needed justification beyond "It looks nice". Especially when coupled with the "Expensive" qualifier. All other properties pale in comparison to the combination of those two properties, often simply the latter.

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>>2224930
>they are mostly jerks, violent and hard to handle

I wish that fucking meme would die.

They're usually that way because people don't fucking know how to handle them or just let them out to breed.

>>2224962
They get crazy everytime they see a mare, it is a pain

Anyone got any food pictures of those weird foal hoof tentacles?

>>2225255
Is that foal sick?

>>2224930

Stallions can be difficult to handle and aren't for most people, but they should never be violent, and if they are, they've either been very poorly socialised or they're a shit stallion and should have their balls lopped off. They're still a domesticated non-predatory animal and can learn good manners and be taught to do a job besides hump mares, but people either excuse their shit behaviour because they're a stallion, or keep them locked up away from other horses with nothing to do and then wonder why they're so badly behaved.

>>2225317
Maybe he was just born?

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>>2225349
this.

its all about raising them right. of course genetics are also a factor, seeing how most people that aren't into some sort of competetive horsemanship don't generally breed for personality it could be more a problem for some to get their stallion to behave than others.

at my work we are experimenting with beef cattle, and the first few bullcalves we kept so they could get on grass this summer, of course we had them castrated, but one managed to cheat the system.

it wasn't until he was well over a year old that we even noticed, i have no idea how those two fucking melons below him managed to fly below the radar, but they did and after a thunderstorm and all the beefcattle outside ran through the fence and we spent hours rounding them up in the rain, we decided to keep him inside and do something about it so he doesn't go around making incestrous love children with the heifers outside.

so after he came inside again and had daily contact with us he got really tame. like, uncomfortably tame. he is now almost two years old, and he is walking with the pregnant heifers, so no pussy for him, also he is a short breed, so he couldn't mount them if he wanted to, but no bad behaviour on his part, this is usually the point where bulls will start attacking people.

nobody really knows what to do with him, the bvious choice is to send him on his merry way to the slaughter house next chance we get, but i keep stalling it every time because he is so cute c:

got a little off track, anyway,

i don't own horses any more, but i have ridden a few stallions in my time, including two of the most well behaved stallions you could ever dream of, that belongs to a friend of mine.

i really want to have a horse again, but i have no idea how i am going to manage that, its a pandoras box of complications right now :(

guess i could go to a studfarm or a boarding farm and get a few unpaid hours every week just to get back into the game. should be able to go on my CV aswell :)

>>2225805

The only sport that doesn't take personality into account would be racing, mostly because their handling and training practices are so poor that they expect their horses to act like assholes.

Any other discipline they're expected to compete alongside other horses (including mares), handle travel, strange locations and people, and lots of training. If they're too surly to deal with that, they're useless. So yes, personality does tend to be a big selling point.

I think my favorite breeders are for sport ponies who's stallions must be child friendly for the right to breed. The thinking is that if they're not of a decent temperament to be handled by a child, why on earth would you breed them to make children's mounts?

>>2226054
yes, but your average joe does not usually buy horses based on their behaviour alone.

but if it is going to be with mares anyway there is no reason not to geld it, you can't teach a stallion not to fuck a mare in heat. you can however teach it to behave nice.

>>2225317
You there.

You just try to be born and run on such long legs in the first seconds you're on this earth.

>>2226159

If you're only breeding or buying for a single trait and ignoring everything else, no matter what it is, you're doing it wrong.

It's bullshit that a stallion can't be trained to keep his mind on his work, even with a mare around. Link is a mare being driven while flanked by two stallions. All are following commands just fine, regardless.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JaYDH5HV0e0

>>2226249
I did.

>>2218345
it was a funny joke

t.random other stranger

>>2224469
sexy horse

>>2226159
>you can't teach a stallion not to fuck a mare in heat

Yes, you can. I wouldn't leave an unsupervised stallion with a bunch of mares and expect him not to mount them because no one said he could, but people have worked and shown stallions and mares throughout history. Stallions would be useless (and a dangerous liability) if they bolted to the nearest mare in heat and tried to mount her, regardless of what you were doing and whether one or both of them had riders on board. They require firm and consistent handling and it's easier for most people to just get a damn gelding, but people can and do work stallions around mares without showgrounds turning into an uncontrollable fuckfest.

>>2224469
breh...

>>2226602
>>2226627
It's a gelding. Geldings tend to get great big round asses for some reason.

>>2224469
Ugh this is my mare on the side of the barn. I put up the treds on the post and she doesn't touch them. She only likes to do it on wood siding.

>>2227043
Don't be silly, if you put something out for them they'll use it in the complete wrong way or not at all. They do it because they're evil.

Anyone have any experience with miniatures? Are they different temperament wise?

>>2228037
Miniature horses have a more horse-like temperament than ponies do. Ponies have a brain that is more like a donkey or mule; they want to think the situation over and will often become resentful if rushed, forced, or bullied into compliance. Horse and minis have the more "traditional" horse brain that is more willing to take its cues from the established leader (a human) rather than think things over for itself each time.

For this reason, ponies, donkeys, mules, can come across as stubborn, since they do not want to be rushed.

Despite their diminutive stature, miniatures come from horses rather than ponies, so they are more like them in thought.

Having said all that, people have a tendency to get physical with miniatures and try to muscle them into compliance. A full-sized horse is hard to physically force to do (or not do) a human's bidding, so people tend to spend more time actually TRAINING them. A mini can be dragged around or yanked into submission, so some people skimp on the training and make up for the lack with sheer physical coercion. A mini that has been bullied and dragged around can become understandably resentful and sour about the whole "people-thing", so if you are considering a mini, make sure he hasn't been mistreated and lost faith in humanity. I've seen it and some of them never quite get over it, even with years of considerate treatment afterward.

>>2228095

On the opposite end of the spectrum, they're a lot like toy breed dogs in that they're the most likely to be babied. Since they're often bought to be pets, and cannot be as dangerous as their full-sized counterparts, they tend to be allowed to get away with a lot of terrible behavior.

Minis can be pretty fantastic, but I know so many who've been horrible shits because of bad horsemanship.

>>2228240
That's an excellent point. Very true.

>>2228095
>>2228240
Thanks. I'd be looking for a blank slate anyway so long as they can be trained that's all that mattress.

>>2228428

Absolutely, and they're super fun to drive. Good luck with it!

>>2224469
thicc

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How did they get the horses to talk in this movie?

>ywn own a big, comfy horse farm
Why even live?

People who guide the horse with only 1 hand: are you able to do it with your non-dominant hand? I've tried a couple of times, but it feels awful.

How big a place do you need to properly treat a horse? Only like 1 acre, right? I have 15 acres here in Texas. Also, how much does it cost to buy hay, fertilizer and watering for a plot for grazing, and grain? I'm not sure if I can buy a horse and just put them out on my land for fear of poisonous plants or something. I want a clean plot for them to graze. I'm thinking of a pony or a miniature horse because they seem easier to take care of, and cheaper (don't need as much food, right?).

>>2229674
Takes some getting used to. You need your dominant hand free to rope with, though. Or wield a sword. So practice and work on it. Soon it will feel less awkward. Most of it a lack of flexibility in your torso and shoulders.

>>2229728
How much land you need depends on climate, soil, weather. One acre in eastern Oregon wouldn't feed a bunny. One acre of good rich soil in Virginia might feed a pony year-round. Ponies can't be fed rich food, though. They should have medium to low-quality hay with a little bit of grazing. Their metabolism doesn't work the same as a horse. Pony metabolism evolved to subsist on twigs and moss and lichen, on the harsh moors and shit like that. Don't give ponies grain either. Most horses don't need any grain at all.

You'd be better off asking someone local to you. Like at a feed store or something. These questions are regional.

>>2229736
thank you anon

>>2229736

>Most horses don't need any grain at all.

To add on this, grain is a high-energy and calorie feed. It's great for working, underweight, and pregnant/lactating horses. Overdependence on it, especially for horses who don't need it, can lead to a lot of health issues up to and including colic.

For what sounds like the pasture pets you're looking for, you shouldn't need it at all. If you're breeding or have some hard keepers, try some beet pulp instead. It can be broken down in the hindgut, making it a high-calorie feed that avoids the worst problems with grain.

>>2229398
Which movie?

>>2229821
thanks for this as well

>>2231086
That Gulliver's travel one where he goes to the island with the super intelligent talking horses, Houyhnhnms and then goes home, gets rid of his wife and kids and gets some horse instead?

>>2231559
>trades in his wife and kids for a couple horses

This guy has the right idea

>>2231696
"A horse, a horse... My kingdom for a horse!"

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/mlp/ here. What's it like having a horse? Do any of you know what it's like to keep a horse in a public stable? I've wanted to know for quite a while but every conversation on that board devolves into sex.

>>2232337
I don't think you'd like it, fucking the horses is generally frowned upon.

>>2232339
I don't want to fuck them, I want to raise them. I just wanted to know if anyone had experiences raising a horse in a public stable since my board knows as much about horses as much as they know about women.

>>2232343

The experience of boarding a horse can be vastly different depending on the area, how much you want to do, and how much money and time you want to put in.

On the lowest end, you pay for a place in a pasture with a lean-to. You handle every aspect of the horses' care, which means at least two trips every day just to handle things like water, grooming, etc.. This is great for the horse socially (since they'll be with buddies all day), and allows you to really build a bond with them, but it's a major time commitment if you're a busy person.

On the highest end, you're paying for a stall with turn-out, and the workers there will cover every aspect of the horse care for you including daily exercise. If you wanted to, you'd only have to show up to ride at your leisure. A lot of people who show choose options like this, as do people with heavy schedules, though the bond won't be quite as strong since they interact more with the staff than their owner.

>>2232343
it's an expensive hobby and horse people are horrible.

my sister does competitive horse racing.

>>2232351
in the high end people also have personal trainers and hire professional drivers to drive their horses.

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>>2232351
Thanks for the info. If caring for it myself is cheaper then that sounds like a deal to me. I really just want to keep it as a pet to be honest, maybe take it on a ride now and then but they're just such sweet animals I can't help but want one of my own. I guess my last question is would they be happy in a place like that. You mentioned they'd get to socialize with other horses but it seems so detached. I would want to spend as much time with it as possible.

>>2232352
>horse people are horrible.
How so? The only horse people I've met were my ex girlfriend's grandparents and they were really nice. They raised horses for racing and had nearly twenty of them, I don't know if that's different for hobbyists though.

>>2232339
But wanting to fuck horses is normal, anon.

>>2232363
>How so?
it's mostly spoiled girls and soccer moms.

>>2232352
>my sister does competitive horse racing.
>butthurt parents like sister more
>shitpost about horses and their owners when there's no cat thread

Anyone gonna post pictures of Horse balls and shit like dat?

>>2232406
>>>/d/
>>>/mlp/
>>>/b/

>>2232363

>I guess my last question is would they be happy in a place like that

Horses are a lot happier out in a pasture with other horses than by themselves in a stall. As long as there's food, water, and protection from the elements they'll be happy as clams. You can still spend plenty of time with them, especially since a good hack is great for their physical and mental well-being.

Barn drama is a regular hazard with horse people, in large part because you have a ton of personalities and different methods that'll come in constant contact and conflict with one another. That horses take so much time and money that they become a lifestyle, and lifestyles tend to attract gatekeepers, doesn't help.

>>2232534
I could care less about the other horse owners as long as they don't do anything cruel to mine.I wonder if stables take volunteers? The closest I've ever worked with horses was cleaning stables back in high school but I would definitely have more confidence if I knew a bit more about caring for them.

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>>2232406

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>>2232571
>I could care less

>>2232634
roodypoo

>>2232638
I just want you to see.

>>2232706
Might want to get a trainer if you get a weird little foal or you'll end up with the devil.

>>2232743
If I got a weird foal I promise no one could love it as much as I could.

>>2232585
I'd get my horse one of these but I'd be afraid they'd hurt themselves on it.

>>2232352
>horse people are horrible.

I can kinda confirm this, even though my mum is a horse person, haha.

The anecdotes she has shared of rich, snobbish people being massive assholes to her and my sister when they were out eventing and shit are pretty indicative.

I was seeing a horse-chick last year and I thought she'd get along with the horse people I know, but she was more likely to get into arguments with them as she/they were so pig-headed about the way in which to do things.

>>2233163
Horse people are a mixed bag.

I've found though that people who grew up working at barns tend to be the best of them though.

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Horse is hungry :3

>>2233502
That's not hungry. Jolly is ravenous.

>>2233163
What dicks. You'd think that if you cared for an animal properly they'd understand.

>>2233130
Get your horse a doll instead. Horses with dolls are so cute<3.

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>>2233502
>FUCKING GIB DAT SHIT GIB U FUCKING SHIT U GIIB FUCK

>>2233767
LEWD

>>2233568

>You'd think that if you cared for an animal properly they'd understand.

Well, that's kind of the thing. There are millions of different schools of thought when it comes to every aspect of caring for horses, all of which have people who passionately agree or disagree with them.

Just look at the frothing rage that comes from a discussion of bits, which routinely feature accusations of torture (inb4 chainsaw bits, twisted wire, etc.. I've seen this said about rubber snaffles). Everybody involved doubtlessly loves horses, and truly believes what they're proposing is best, but they're incapable of seeing eye-to-eye because their schools of thought can be so radically different. In their mind they just hear someone hurting a horse and/or accusing them of hurting their horse, and that must be fought.

Add that to all the money and time sunk into things, that equestrian sports tend to draw individualists who are further isolated into their own discipline, and the constant and almost intimate proximity to similar people, and you end up with a powderkeg.

>>2233797
What a shame, there go my dreams of making some fun horse friends. Come to think of it, If they're all a bunch of soccer moms and spoiled brats then they probably wouldn't care for some bearded 26 year old in the first place.

>>2233894

Honestly, the best way to avoid barn drama is to stick to lower-end casuals. People are very cool and helpful, for the most part, it's generally the hyper-competitive obsessives that spoil things.

Also look for a barn that advertises itself as "drama free". A stable should be monitoring the social structure of the boarders, and if someone's becoming an issue they should be kicked out to preserve the peace.

If an eccentric billionaire said he'd give you ten billion dollars if you lived in the same house with a horse of your choosing what would you go for? Has to be 15 hands or over.

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>>2233972
My dream horse is a paint with a splotch on the nose, maybe something like pic related. I wouldn't even need the billion assuming I could afford to feed and care for it.

Cool, I'll look into it. It'll be a while before I can afford one but it's good to know there are places I can keep one that aren't full of dicks.

>>2234007
Meant the second half to be for >>2233896.

>>2233972
Just some giant gelded draught horse if the billionaire is covering care for him.

>>2234007
You have to live in the same house and sleep in the same bed for a whole year though.

>>2234104
Only one year? :(

>>2233972
I'd rather live with a cute ponymare desu

>>2234115
>>>/mlp/

>>2234119
I wouldn't even necessarily want to fuck it, I just feel more comfortable around smaller female horses

>>2233972
I'd put an Icelandic on stilts to make her 15+ hands

>>2234108
You can keep the horse after. Just easier options.

>>2234265
I wouldn't even say no if I was that billionaire

>>2233163
i know. i once walked past the stables at my school, where students keep their horses, if they so desire to bring one, and saw a classmate who was putting fresh straw into her horse's box and (jokingly) told her that she shouldn't use so much, because it had to come out again later. she. went. bananas.

one would think that us being in an agricultural highschool that she would know, that i know, how to take care of animals, but she still dumped the entire 'how to take care of your horse' manifesto on me, and not in a calm tone.

another one just won't shut up about her horse and its health problems. shes like well above 290 lbs she should worry more about its back.

and a last one, she is cool, but will talk a little condescending if she has to explain something.

>>2233972
Fuck, easy choice. I'd do that with heaps of horses I know, lol.

I know a certain mega-chilled thoroughbred stallion. Total bro, even on rocket fuel feed. Just wants to sleep and have you scratch him. Can't win a race though, lol.

Either him or my mum's current 2yo warmblood filly, who is a little aloof and has a high opinion of herself, but is undoubtedly very intelligent and bombproof for her age.

>>2234400
I've been salty at people myself, but only when they're angry and yelling at a horse that isn't being naughty, but is only scared or downright terrified. No fucking need.

Fuck, we have a sweet 2yo filly at our barns, who is very timid. A meathead guy was telling her to 'settle. SETTLE', literally yelling angrily, and wondered why she was acting crazy when confined with him in a tiny stall.

She kicked him too, lol, and when I asked what happened he said she was super aggressive and 'went for him'. I grabbed her feed off him (we had to enter her stall to feed her) and he said 'righto, let's see you get near her'.

I fucking spoke calmly, moved slowly and in five seconds I was stroking her neck. She was petrified. Poor thing.

He's been kicked three times in literally a month, even by horses that are total bros, because he thinks he can dominate with anger.

I've still never been kicked. It'll happen, still, but I'll try to keep my streak up.

question what's all everyone do/how much you guys make to keep up this hobby?

growing up it never seemed like an option with the land requirements and the money, but fuck it I've always wanted to. marrying into it is an option desu

>>2233972
I know Jack shit about horses and I'd take that deal. put me in there with a Clydesdale for that much money idgaf, I'll sleep in the barn, the horse can have the bed too

>>2234572
I don't own any horses. I just work with them.

Someone told me on here that it's like owning a second car in terms of cost.

Some of them cost more than others, too. Some require no extra feed, some do. Some also seem particularly prone to hurting themselves as well, haha. Vet bills with horses, as with all animals, can be huge.

>>2234719
Do you work at a stable? What is your daily routine like? What were the requirements for the job?

>>2234756
Yes, a racehorse stable. ~60 horses there in total.

3am start.

>1/2 horses get groomed and put onto truck for training at nearby racetrack
>1/2 stay at home and get walked with mechanical walker (small numbers by hand sometimes)
>a few (sick, or to recover after a race) rest in their stalls.
>mucking out stalls, turning sawdust/straw/whatever over to remove any damp
>refreshing water and scrubbing water buckets to keep it fresh
>putting in fresh feed
>horses come home to fresh food, water, and bedding
>barns are swept clean everyday
>feeds must be mixed twice daily
>general maintenance (if you can, I tend to fix all the basic shit like wheelbarrows etc)

In afternoon, after lunch

>stalls mucked out again, but not a thorough turning
>horses fed
>water topped up
>most horses get light exercise

Requirements? My job has nil to start, very entry level. Must be physically capable, mostly. These days though, I am expected to:

>handle horses, load and unload from various trucks, walk for exercise, sometimes walk decent distances through semi-suburban area
>grooming horses, brushing, blacking/oiling hooves, basic stuff
>washing horses with a hose, scraping and toweling dry
>applying basic medicine, like oral drenching, antiseptic creams and sprays, bandaging

Some days I have to manage it too, when the boss is away. But I don't enjoy that. Our pay is shit, like the hours, so we tend to not always have the best staff, and they receive very minimal training considering the millions of dollars of racehorse we have to handle.

It's tolerable only because I find the horses therapeutic, I get paid to exercise and I enjoy my co-workers company. I'm looking for other work currently.

I also accompany our horses to race days every now and then.

Can ask me stuff if you want, but I'm pretty new to the industry, only been here a year. I get by with a good work ethic, a love for the animals and a calm attitude to keep them chill.

>>2234804
Doesn't sound half bad. Though I would probably wish I got to ride them too, especially if there's any bonding going on. Do you ever bet on the horse races?

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Have you guys ever gotten kicked by a horse?

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>>2235350
i've never even ridden a horse

>>2235350
I was headbutted by one when I was eight.

>>2235350
Yeah, what about it

>>2235350
Only twice in 30+ years of equines. Once by a mule, as a kid. Both barrels, to the chest. I deserved it. Once by my own horse, by accident. She didn't really mean to connect - it was an expression of exuberance and I moved into it at the last second. Barely tapped me but it was on my knee so I did get a big bruise.

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>>2234815
It is possible to move into track-riding, but you have to be very competent to get an apprenticeship.

I do not bet. I don't like the industry, so don't want to put more money into it. I consider it too hard on the horses, though there are animals suffering worse fates in my country.

I did bet once. The horse took an injury that made him fiscally pointless as a racer, so I never bet again lol.

But that horse now lives at my parents, with miles of open space and good paddock-mates, so it worked out well for him. He's happy and healthy. Mum is a life-long horsewoman, with experience from childhood with ex-racehorses.

She's also the only person who loves them as much as me, values them as creatures - almost non-human-people - not only as working or show animals.

My trainer always re-homes his horses. Gives them away for free most commonly.

>>2235508
>She's also the only person who loves them as much as me

Meant to say, "only person I know".

Also, Jesus Christ I apologize for that filesize.

>>2234804
how much feed are you mixing?
how do you muck out?
are you allowed to keep antibiotics on site?

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>>2235509
>Also, Jesus Christ I apologize for that filesize.
Why the hell did you use PNG?

>>2235659
Ignorance. I just used paint to drag a square around the horse so I would not be visible.

>>2235648
>how much feed are you mixing?

It varies per horse. Roughly a bucket full. Oats are a large component and most common. Usually a good amount of lucerne and wheaten chaff. High energy racing 'formula' and cracked corn for those at peak training and during their campaigns. A mineral supplement and a tablespoon of salt once a day too.

>how do you muck out?

Use a stable rake to pick up shit.
Use a pitchfork or shovel (I prefer shovel) to slide under sawdust, lift and turn and dump it, exposing urine-soaked dust, which clumps together in chunks usually. Do this to whole stall, then use the aforementioned rake to pick up the clumps and put them in a wheelbarrow. Smooth it over a little so there are no thin areas. Put fresh shavings in if necessary.

>are you allowed to keep antibiotics on site?
Not sure. I don't think there is any need; we have a mobile vet who is based less than a couple of kms away.

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>>2236028
that sounds like a lot of work with 60 horses.

its funny how closely related our jobs are, yet performed so differently.

i work with 300+ holstein dairy cattle, and for starters i make 15+ tonnes of feed daily, muck out 2-3 straw bedded boxes every week, which is around 100 tonnes of shit, so it has to be done with big machines.
also take care of some reproduction and heath stuff some times.

>>2236321
that's fucked up!

>>2236321
As a New Zealander, where the dairy cattle are put out in the pasture and then rounded up and herded to the milking sheds twice a day, I find this practice absolutely abhorrent. Except in extreme weather, cows should not be kept in little boxes.

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>>2236346
Its Also illegal.
There animal husvandry laws here Are very strict. I Can assure you that We take good Care of them

I was riding, but when we got close to another horse, my horse pinned his ears. Was he being aggressive or was it just a coincidence?

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>>2236771
It could be a coincidence, but I would say it was likely to be aggressive. Though defensive, apprehensive etc might be better words.

Horses can be grumpy bitches too.

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see you 'mirin my tri-color coat and fine-ass pinto bitch

>>2235508
>>2235659
>That hairy man arm
Femanon, you're not gonna get your Chad at this rate.

>>2236771
Didn't like the other horse. Whether it was being defensive or aggressive depends on the other horse and what was going on.

I know my college had one horse that couldn't be ridden near other horses at all times.

>>2235508
>barbed wire fence
>turnout

Does you mum like spending lots of money on new turnouts every couple months?

>>2224112
How in the heck do you get one in these undies?1?1?

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>>2237457
there are zippers :)

>>2237546
For what purpose though? Those weird countries were the air is >80% acid?

>>2237681
Venetian mares?

>>2237681

It's a compression suit meant to improve circulation, reduce cramping, etc.. This is mostly marketed for racehorses, and compression garments in the same vein are very popular among human athletes (especially runners and cyclists).

There is very little evidence it's anything beyond a placebo effect, most studies showing it does little to nothing to improve performance. There's no evidence of it hurting anything, at least.

>>2237742
Well so long as they don't hate it then what's the harm?

Admittedly it does look rather dapper. Like equine astronauts.

Post your horse's name, I'll start:
Dallas.

>>2238009

Other than the inherent moral issues in using pseudoscience and deceptive marketing to sell useless (and expensive) junk, not much.

Face

>>2238043
>>2238053

AHHHHHH JUST DROVE DRAFT HORSES AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GROUND (Single) AND WAGON (Team) AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>2213136
Is that glitter?

>>2228428
>that's all that mattress

What is a good horse breed for a novice horse owner?

>don't look at the balls don't look at the balls don't look at the balls

>>2238563

A mutt horse.

Horses aren't like dogs, where the breeds are incredibly diverse and affect almost every aspect of the experience. Horses are bred for a relatively small amount of jobs, and those jobs produce animals who are quite similar to each other. Unless you really adore a breed's look, or you're looking to compete at a high level (and most of those are mutts, too, to be honest), there's no real reason to look for a breed.

Just find a horse trained for what you're looking to do that has a calm personality. 6+ years old is a good place for a novice to start, and make sure to take time to ride them and a full vet inspection before you buy.

Also don't get too hung up on something superficial like color. I know so many people who were obsessed with *insert "rare" color* and ended up with an absolute disaster of an animal.

>>2238572
Was rugging a stallion the other day while he ate.

Accidentally bumped his balls with the back of my hand while searching for a strap.

The way he stopped eating to look back over his shoulder at me was pretty comical.

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>>2238792
"why did you stop, anon?"

I wish horses were affectionate like dogs. I want to be friends with horses, but they are scared of me or they just look bored as fuck

>>2239159
I hear ya. I wish there was an animal with the size and strength of a horse (rideable), but fluffy and friendly and with the personality of a dog.

>>2239159
horses can be just about as friendly. just standing near horses for a few minutes and they'll come up to sniff you and check you out. keep doing that and they warm up pretty easily and will let you pet them. just need to know the signals and take it slow, they are jumpier for sure

>>2239159
They are, they just don't show it in the same way dogs do.
Horses are very, social animals, but it'll take them a while to warm up to you. Even when they do, signs of affection may be very subtle.

>>2239159
It's not too hard to become friends with horses, you just need to spend a decent amount of time with them. Horses that like you will let you "sleep" with them standing up, or they'll come up and say hi when you're by the fence/in the paddock, or they'll lick you.

If you groom they a lot, they'll start asking to be groomed to.

Just takes time, and all horses are a bit different.

>>2239352
I like that hot nose air thing they do

I prefer horses and cats to dogs. Let's be honest - horses are great but their personality is nothing like a dog's. People who yearn for a dog-like personality are wanting something outgoing and exuberant. Horses are more like cats in temperament. More reserved and gentle. Not as bouncy and devoted.

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>>2211514
Mmmmm.... horses.... gooood

>>2239508
Mmmm.... edgy....
faaaaaag

>>2239506
dogs are their own thing, every animal does not need to be a dog

>>2239907
This was a continuation of the discussion begat by the anon who basically wants horse-sized dogs. I know it was all of eight posts ago but do try to keep up.

There's no such thing as mares

>>2240135
I've heard of "mares", mythical equines that turn stallions into frenzied demons that maim their riders

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Would anyone risk riding a flying horse? Totally the same brain inside it as any horse you know (other than knowing how to fly).

Given that I was thrown off for no reason by a horse I've known for three million years I'd have to say no unless I had a chute or something.

>>2240139
Nobody has ever SEEN one though.

>>2240149
If I ever wanted to die.

>>2240149
I assume any deity that made flying horses a reality would make them have way more sense then regular horses, otherwise there would be way more horse-related deaths.

>>2241408
Only in the air. When they're not flying they are just as senseless.

>>2240149
Hell no

>>2240149
Would they lay eggs?

>>2241806
Could finally really order hors d'oeuvres then

>>2242048
In french it's cheval.

I used to be one of those idiots who think horse riding is easy, it's not a true sport, that the horse does all the work, etc.

Now that I take lessons I noticed how wrong I was.

>>2242424
Oeufs de cheval

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>>2238792

>... you rang?

>>2243272
Wouldn't real horse eggs be like caviar? Just a big bag of removed ovaries you eat on water biscuits?

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It sucks knowing I'll probably never have horses of my own.

>>2245198
Ew stop

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>tfw no horse enthusiast gf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr77JXoJ_DI

and I just got this in the recommendations. thanks, yt assholes.

>>2245321
You just don't want it enough

>>2245413
People said that about all sorts of things that ended up being lovely. Like tomatoes.

>>2245413
>2016
>not eating mare caviar

>>2245115
That horse needs a haircut.

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Bosslady decided to use her horse for our company photo shoot (hence the retarded watermark). The photographer snapped some photos of Emma just meandering around the ring while we were getting set up. She's quite nice, but is also a bit bitchy if she hasn't eaten in the last 5 minutes.

>>2247141
Her mane looks weird.

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>>2247312
It's just combed over, like a balding man in his 50's would do. It's really quit nice though.

>>2247316
That's better. The front looked all short too.

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>>2247324
Bosslady spends a significant amount of time with her, tending to Emma's every whim. I don't think she could stand even a hair out of place.

>>2247330
What flavour is she anyway?

Are ponies a different species or did humans breed horses until they became that way?

>>2247749
Not a different species really. Just adapted to eat brash and junk but they can still mingle. Like Asians kinda.

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Does anyone have videos like these? With horses being affectionate to each other.

>>2247752
There's a ton of ones on youtube but I'm not allowed to make webms

>>2247790
>but I'm not allowed to make webms
why not?

>>2247744
Straight Clydesdale. As an aside, she had a daughter at one point, and the owner is selling her so we're working on getting them back together.

>>2247834
The teats were a giveaway. What's the percentage chance of getting them a meeting?

>>2247749
Actually, ponies are what horses evolved *from*. Ponies are primitive horses. Well, if you want to get really technical, today's ponies evolved from primitive ponies too. Some of today's pony breeds haven't changed much... the Fjord is the prime example of a primitive pony type that still exists unchanged today. The Dales and Exmoor are slightly more evolved ponies. But basically, people took ponies from their harsh native environments (or they migrated on their own) into kinder, milder grasslands environments where there was better food, warmer climates, but also faster predators. Natural and human selection bred taller and faster ponies/horses.

>>2247933
So, the horse's ancestror was small? Interesting.

>>2247933

>tfw 15ft tall horses would be possible with today's nutrition but there's no use for that and therefore will never happen

feels bad man

>>2247947
I remember reading that the ancestor of the modern horse was very small, like a medium sized dog

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every time.

Why don't male horses have nipples? Many male mammals have nipples, like dogs.

>>2248549
You're just not looking hard enough

>>2248663
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/2y1lyy/eli5_if_male_horses_do_not_have_nipples_does_it/

sorry for shitty source

>>2248694
Well damn. Colour me surprised. If they don't have nipples doesn't that make them aliens?

>>2248850
>>2248850
Well, I heard platypus don't have nipples either, even the females. They nurse their youngs in a somewhat different way

>>2249008
Well that's not surprising, Platypuses really are aliens that invaded Australia in the 90's