Is there an actual reason NOT to drop out of society for men?

>>18710493
What are you talking about

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>>18710493
Actually I'm a woman and those are the reasons why I dropped out of society. Feels good, dude.

>>18710493
Why do you focus on following a preconceived notion of masculinity instead of finding masculine model that suits you and simply trying to be yourself ?
Not that the model you are following is necessarily wrong.

>>18710516
women dont drop out of society they become housewives and goverment workers

>>18710516
you have a penis, right?

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>>18710535
>>18710569
>the only way to process something contrary to their beliefs is denial
Brainlets.

>>18710530
not OP but
>masculine model that suits you
no such thing

>>18710573
go back to facebook with those shitty memes

>>18710626
I myself took for role model several persons, from whom I took the traits I wanted to have. I also learned from the mistakes of the other, notably here, on /adv/.
I don't know if it is for everyone but it is possible.
Can you develop your position ?

>>18710493

This post is for >>>/r9k/

Overall, I think the general consensus is that nobody would be horribly upset if you dropped out of society. Nobody would be horribly upset if we didn't have to listen to yet another whiny redpilled rant about how the world is so unfair because it occasionally requires you to act like you have a spine.

>>18710493
I've been married 11 years, with my wife for close to 20.

>cultural marxism/feminism has destroyed the family unit
Meh. My family unit seems fine.

>can have your life ruined by divorce rape and having your kids taken from you
Don't have any kids, incomes are roughly equal so alimony would be zero or near zero, and we're a community property state so the only things to worry about would be who got what specifically.

Still, its been awhile, I'm not exactly worried about divorce.

>having a job means you pay into the system that continuously works towards destroying masculinity
Yes and no. I have my own business, I cheat on my taxes, and I buy good whiskey and fun guns. My quality of life is miles better than if I was holed up in my parent's basement.

>every husband has their garage or basement room and the wife gets the house
Thats not how my house is, nor the homes of most of the married couples I know socially. I mean, you need something of a spine and to pick your partner well, but its not rocket science.

>every husband has to put up with his wife and misses out on bro time
I love my wife, I also don't miss out on bro time. I'm out with the guys at least once a week. I've got a band on the side that plays shitty shows for gas money because its fun. I'm in the gym at least five days a week. I brew beer, I shoot guns, I just dropped close to a grand on a new book shelf because I was running out of space for books I might want to read again.

Hell, right this moment my wife and I are having a drink before bed and planning out a rack for snake enclosures. This is the life.

Perhaps the institution of marriage isn't the problem, perhaps its that you're a failure.

>>18710705
I lack all masculine qualities besides the physical. I am not driven, confident, positive. I am wretched, wasteful, childish, cowardly. I run from all problems instead of facing them. etc

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>>18710735

This post really show how warped your perspective is.

By asserting that you are not "driven, confident and positive" and that you are "wretched, wasteful, childish and cowardly" you have created your reality through your thoughts.

Being driven, confident and positive are not character traits, they're active pursuits that you can train yourself to be. It's not about being motivated to do something, it's about doing it even though you're not motivated.

I see so many defeated people that say and think they are losers, broken, apathetic and defective but ultimately we all possess the agency and control to change our situation, it's just about changing the way you think and perceive your situation.

Now it's fucking easy for me to sit here and say that, I'm lucky as fuck in that my game was set on easy-mode from the start. Come from a wealthy family, well-educated, tall etc etc fucking etc.

But there are people that beat the game on hard mode, not because of who they were pre-determined to be, but because of the actions that they conciously made day-in day-out, because of their ability to see adversity as a challenge, because they didn't listen to the self-destructive voice inside their head (and it's in everybody's head trust me) telling them they were useless and worthless.

Fix your mindset conciously and everything else will come easier.

I'm not going to pretend to be some psychoanalytical guru or tell you how to CBT yourself but here's an anecdotal example from myself.

I used to have recurring thought "kill yourself" rattling around in my head about 50-100 times a day at its worst. (I was in a bad way, don't want to go into it, depressed for months etc. etc).

I conciously focused on that thought and now every time it runs through my head it automatically becomes either "chill yourself" or "kill your selfishness".

Obviously I'd prefer to not have that prompt in my mind, but all I can tell you is it works for me, and you can find a way too.

>>18710735
Work on yourself. Seek therapy, self-help, work on your self-esteem, on your emotions, on your fears, take care of yourself, anything.
These qualities you feel you are lacking, you can develop them. You can develop your already positive traits.
Also being confident, driven, positive, are not especially masculine qualities.
And you don't have to set the bar too high. If you are not that driven, be also laid-back. While it's great to be positive, no one is always positive, and it's a bad thing to be blind to the negative. Many people seem confident, but everyone have to deal with insecurities. You don't have to be perfect. You can be flawed and happy, like most people.

You're that dude who LOVES just writing out the phrase cultural marxism, aren't you?

Here's something you should consider taking to heart: when more than 30% of your post is buzzwords, you lose all credibility.

Dude there's a whole board for you to complain about this shit at, two even. Just go there. We get it, you want pussy but it doesn't want you. Do something about it or shut the fuck up already.

>>18710768
I'm no psych, but did you saw one for those suicidal thought ?

>>18710768
This is the best advice any of you will ever see on here.

I'm a firm believer that everybody gets exactly what they really want. That guy with the girlfriend only has her because, to him, trying was more important than protecting his ego from possible rejection. That really smart dude who's not going anywhere, he'd be an entrepreneur if his priority wasn't getting stoned after work.

If you want the world to change, go out there and fucking change it. You're not gonna solve world hunger, but you begin to see the things you were looking for in other people.

If you spend every day on your computer getting worked up over disingenuous divorce statistics and posting this self fulfilling drivel, then that's all you're going you fucking get out of life.

>>18710834
>I'm a firm believer that everybody gets exactly what they really want.
I'm glad you said that because it makes it very easy to disregard the rest of your post. I can't imagine how much of a mental midget you would have to be to believe such a thing.

>>18710834
This.

>>18710802

I saw a university councillor for 6 sessions which didn't really help me aside from being able to air my thoughts (not to discount how important getting it all out is).

Ultimately I fixed myself. There's something way more gratifying about that because it means that if I ever fall down again I know I don't need people's help, I can do it alone.

All this being said, if you have a support network use it - it's easier that way.

>>18710862
The defeatist found a way to remove personal accountability and again establish himself the victim, color me shocked.

Disregard away, dude, I post advice for the lurkers.

>>18710493
Agree bro.

I'm with this anon.

The dating game is just too stressful for me. I've been called a 7/10 and been with a couple girls but just thinking down the line on how relationships go down turns me off. For one thing if love is conditional then what's the point of not being perfect? Love being based on what you provide in looks, personality, stability, someone who provides better is always more worthy of love.

I.e. If you're not perfect 10/10 any woman would be willing to trade up from you if she got the opportunity right? Just by the logic of conditional love?

So you go for someone in your "league" and hope they'll never be good enough for someone better than you, or if they do move on from you you take the hurt to your ego and try again, hoping to not die without someone. In the end the whole thing reminds one their dying and makes life a race. Forget about having relationships and now there is no life goal. Now you're not dying, you're living.

Except I disagree about porn and masturbation, if you're doing these you're just a cuck.

>>18710493
marry asian

they usually have strong family units that will accept you unless you're a バカ外人

Refugees from north africa are right now literally receiving fertility treatments, paid for by my taxes, while I have no idea how to ever have a successful marriage.

Fml.

Reproductive success clearly correlates positively with low social status and promiscuity. Why did I even put effort into a good education?

>>18710493
Holy fuck this is the worst board ever. Ignore all of them esp >>18710732 this piece of shit delusional bluepilled idiot.
Op, checking out of society isn't WRONG, but I hate it when you people do that. We see things the same way you and me. I know that social skills are a problem, but if you can't take reality into your own hands and change things then how is it supposed to get better? Everyday I wake up to zero messages, zero online friends, no social media accounts etc. The MSM, entertainment industry and school system visibly support the destruction of western civilization through cultural Marxism. But, how am I supposed to deal with them if all of my potential supporters are locked up in their apartments/basements? How can insurrection happen w/o you? Or a coup? Or a revolution? Every single solitary day, the outside world gets worse and your mind gets fried by escapist pleasures. Instead of checking out, why not try to aqquire wealth, resources and power and change the system through it?

>>18711282
Things that did not happen: the post.

>>18711642
Aren't you a special snowflake. Too smart to have a job or a gf, huh?

>>18711020
Ironically, the guy you were originally replying to (me) was lurking. I thought your advice was interesting

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>>18710493

You MGTOW cunts can rationalize your actions to hell and gone, but the same thing will catch up to you that is catching up to the sexually revolutionized free wymyn of today: human. biology.

Your dick screams for real, wet, soft pussy. Your hypothalamus demands female human companionship. Your endocrine system is primed to fill you with joy when you train what's supposed to be your children.

Did you know that human babies, despite being given food and warmth, will literally die if they don't receive human interaction in the first few months of their life?'
A similar thing will happen when you're old. Elderly people that have loving families are healthier and live better and longer than their isolated counterparts.

You can cry that the world is unfair and lock yourself away in your basement. But in the end you'll end up just like the 30-something year old spent roastie hitting the wall having defied her maternal instinct: with a deep sense of 'wrong'ness and unfulfillment.

You cannot escape millions of years of physical adaptory configuration. Without a woman or a family, you will be like a cat denied meat. Or a dog that cannot run. You will wither.

"It is not good for man to be alone." ~ God

>inb4 'christfag'
I'm not religious. But ancient mythologies often hold little nuggets of wisdom that subsequent societies forget

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>>18711704
delete this

>>18711704
>Did you know that human babies, despite being given food and warmth, will literally die if they don't receive human interaction in the first few months of their life?'
>source: my ass
There is no evidence for this outside of urban legends.

>>18710573
"""she""" didn't say no to the penis question.

>>18710493
just become a faggot wn?

>>18710502
Maybe you should read