ITT: Ask The Opposite Gender Anything

Any gender: kinkiest sex you've had?

Girls who are publicly prudish about sex, are you secretly into really kinky stuff?

So how do you find confident dudes who are interested in dating and not just sex, or is it all just luck of the draw? Seems like datings been so black and white these days, you only get very insecure guys looking for love, or confident dudes looking for sex. Where do you find the middle ground?

>>18647751
Yes lol
I'm a 22 year old virgin who hides her face during anything intimate because it's embarrassing to me, but I secretly want to be tied down and fucked mercilessly/treated like a sex slave. Among other kinks.

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4clitoral/girls
For those of you who doesn't cum from penetration alone, how do you view mutualy satisfying sex?
Do you hope for an orgasm first with hands or mouth, and then penetration for him alone,
Or is there a way you get stimulated while being penetrated?

>>18647762
Well, it's hard to say "mutually" since I have no idea what my hypothetical partner needs to get off. I have no problem "putting up with" penetration if I've gotten mine beforehand, but that's not really mutual.

The best I can do to have a real "mutual" experience during penetration is a vibrator on the clit.

That being said, the key word there is penetration ALONE. You can still get your girl off while penetrating her, you or her just has to rub her clit while doing it. Or try positions that make your dick rub against her clit while going in and out, if possible. Some ladies have clits that are very far spaced from the vaginal canal (such as myself) though, so it's impossible for some women based on their body types. Still don't mean you can't use your hands or toys.

>>18647754
Idk either. Social group maybe? I'm on Tinder, which seems promising despite it not really being the whole purpose of the app. I don't really know where else I should be desu

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Should I bother with tinder again?

I don't want to have full blown sex, I would love a relationship but I know given my age that's impossible and not practical since I'll be moving very far away after graduation. I just don't want to be alone every single night for the rest of the year and a half I'm stuck here.

The struggle is how do I find enough guys to cycle through that are keen on sticking to 3rd base and going no further so that I'm never alone? I'm not very attractive, painfully average but I don't think I can increase my looks any further.

>>18647761
I'm a 19-year old who gets flustered when a girl touches me and I have the same fantasy of doing that to a girl.

Do you think there's hope for people like us?

>>18647805
Well, unfortunately I think it's gonna be harder for you than it will be for me. Due to gender expectations and roles, it's "cute" for me to be shy and inexperienced. But for guys, well, it's not as much of a plus.
I'm sorry :/ I really wish there weren't the double standards like that, but there are some ladies out there defying gender stereotypes! I'm sure someone will come along.

>>18647805
Yeah breh i went from being afraid to kiss a girl to making my gf wear a leash and facefucking her in like a month. But i probably watched too much porn as a young man

>>18647783
Yeah I've been doing tinder too, but as expected it's all fucking and nothing more.

I hate how I have to autistically ask specifically like the very first thing out my my mouth "You looking for something serious? Not just my pussy?"

Guys

Blondes or Brunettes?

>>18647827
I wish they had different settings to filter based on what kind of relationship you're looking for, it really would save time

>>18647837
Not that it would matter, they'd just ignore it. I put it in all caps on my profile "DO NO CONTACT ME IF YOU JUST WANT SEX"
They still contact me.
Similar thing happend to me on OK cupid, where you actually can filter some things, I filtered out anyone older than 25 and was still getting 40-50 year old men who just listed their age as under 25 hoping to be an exception to that rule.

>>18647835
Doesn't matter.

>>18647846
Did any of them win you over with their charming personalities? :p

>>18647751
No, I'm really vanilla.

>>18647835
Being in shape > anything else

>>18647865
Absolutely not lol. Kept imagining it'd be like dating my dad and was super creepy.
Not to mention I don't wanna be a step mom to someone who's the same age as me.

Hey femanons

why would you get embarassed and excited, with your cheeks red and acting childish, and then refuse to be kissed?

I'm becoming insane

>>18647893
its embarrassing I guess, even if you want it.

>>18647894

What would you suggest to a guy who's embarassing you, to not lose the chance? What am I supposed to do?

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>>18647902
Take your time with her I guess. You're only gonna "lose the chance" if she's not interested to begin with. Let her get more comfortable around you and also make sure you only make physical advances 100% in private where there's no chance of anyone walking in on ya.

>>18647903

>do it only when there is no chance of anyone walking on
>actually watching these reaction with other people around
>how the hell am I supposed to get intimate if they don't accept to hang out alone

My head...

I hate you femanons

>>18647912
Woah woah woah, you havent had one on one time yet? No wonder she's backing off.

You can't just jump steps like that, if she refuses to meet you one on one (IE you've actually asked her to meet one on one and she said no, not just you haven't had the courage to even ask yet) then she's not as into you as you think. She's not excited at all, she's just embarrassed and trying to turn you down as politely as possible around all these other people.

>>18647835

personal taste but a very minor thing anyway.

Every guy likes something different, I personal love darker hair when long and flowing, so brunette there- but with a ponytail blond to me looks better. So it can change even depending on hairstyle and other details- but again very minor, the girl under that hair is the important part (though the extremes definitely have an impact, I'd find it hard to find a bald girl as attractive, whoever says that outside doesn't matter- lies)

Losing your virginity:
any femanons here lose it to a casual fling?
I'm considering it because I do not see a man ever loving me ever but especially not in my near future. I've been fooling around with this guy lately to fill the void but never going past oral. He's asked a couple times about going all the way but told me it's "fine" when I said I'm still reserved. I told him I'm a virgin and a little scared of it. I know he'll lose all interest in me eventually if I don't go further, and part of me even wants to despite knowing this is just a fling that will end pretty fast.

I just always imagined the first would at least be with someone who really cared about me and my feelings, both physically and emotionally. I'm beginning to think this is a very childish notion and sex is never gonna be anything special or memorable and I should just drop it and grow up. Only 12 year olds dream about losing their virginity romantically, sex is just sex in the end and nothing more. It's just supposed to be fun, a fun activity like playing a game is fun, it's not that deep.

My biggest fear is regret. My second is being awkward and it being painful. Another reason I always envisioned it with a boyfriend was I'm gonna have to be able to talk to him very frankly about being super careful because it's easy to hurt me. Fingers can hurt me if done wrong. And it might not work out, I even attempted to have sex once when I was in high school and I psyched myself out too much to the point where I was just impenetrable. (I was much less open to sex and rushing it at the time though, I was just too young then) I feel like that's gonna be very weird for someone who doesn't love me unconditionally if I try to fuck them and it doesn't work.

So idk, I guess just thoughts on all this? What would you do in my shoes? I'm so lonely and masturbating no longer is working. I crave human touch so much and the "whores" just seem so much happier in their lives than virgin me.

>>18647917

So I think I should re-evaluate the signals of attraction, because I didn't understand a fucking thing about women.

Maybe I should simply become gay, go to club and fuck in there asking "hey, wanna fuck?"

much easier

>>18647940
>Only 12 year olds dream about losing their virginity romantically, sex is just sex in the end and nothing more.

How old are you?

>>18647945
Yeah basically, being nice and polite does not equate interest.

Enjoy the dick in your ass mate

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>>18647946
23

>>18647945

Only if you are cute for the twink lovers or a real hairy manly man for the bear/bara lovers.

>>18647951
Go ahead and slut it up if that's what you really want.

>>18647940

>I do not see a man ever loving me ever

why?

>>18647947

of course I was being ironic

being nice and polite is a thing. Showing actual physical signs of sexual excitement is another thing. But you pointed out correctly that they weren't giving me the "ok" sign to lead on the interaction to another level. This is where I miss and where I have to work. Unluckly I'm not gay.

>>18647962

>Treat women like guys

WOW ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ARE SOLVED.

The signs will become obvious if they think you're friendly but aren't impressed with them, they'll start to throw themselves at you to try and break your cool. The second you break, its over, attraction level zero. However, if you can keep the tension alive without bitching out, reverting to beta supplicating behavior, you can ride the wave to getting laid.

>>18647961
For one I just don't think it's really something that happens anymore. Almost every adult I know has gotten divorced multiple times, and everyone my age chooses to have flings with people than settling down in the first place.
I also just don't think I have much to set me aside from others. I'm not exceptionally pretty, I'm also not exceptionally interesting, but I'm not sure what to do about either of that. I've tried getting into more hobbies, but nothing interests me other than reading manga and playing the sims. In the looks department all I can really do anything about is my weight at this point. I'm not a landwhale but I could use some toning up, and I'm getting into that currently.
Basically I'm just the opposite of what most guys would be interested in more than a quick fuck anyway so I feel like I should take what I'm offered and forget about childish notions of romantic sex. But I don't want to live with the regret of wasting this one opportunity for the rest of my life either. (And also I know the more people I fuck the even further I'll get from ever having a stable relationship because sex devalues me further).

>>18647972

What the hell man, you are a fucking pro. And I'm not even being sarcastic, at all.

Thank you, I owe you a lot of beer. And tell me that you write somewhere else because this is actually the best advice I've ever red.

We males need something like this, a structured plan of action, not like the pua bullshits, but more like of a step to step with notes, simple as that.

>>18647972
>>18647981
That only works for so long though, you have to find the right timing.
You know how if a girl doesn't show any signs of interest in you long enough you assume she's not into you and move on?
We do too.

>>18647981

Thanks, but what >>18647985 mentions is true.
What I left out of my original comment is body language.

If you can treat her like on the the guys verbally and physically (teasing her and being physically comfortable near her), the only thing you need to focus on at that point is sexual physical contact/body language.

A body can speak for itself, and becoming an expert at reading & directing body language (your own as well as that of others) will serve you more powerfully than PUA verbal tactics.

The key is projecting comfort in yourself and your surroundings, while subtly inserting sexuality into opportune moments during the interaction. The sexuality comes from the deep well of masculinity that exists within, which must be found, as unfortunately, male mentors who can show it to you are rare these days.

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>>18647985

Thank you for your time and for the good pieces of advice, I'll try asap ;)

>>18647975

Well I was used for my virginity in high school, in order to make my best friend jealous and manipulate him into a relationship. It didn't work, I ended up falling into the relationship instead, which was nothing but a waste of energy on my part. It thoroughly fucked me up. That was when I was 17, I am also 23 now.

I'd be willing to talk about this more with you, if you'd like. Ever since that relationship, I've only found myself attracted to obviously emotionally damaged people (no offense, I hope you can see in my honesty that I see myself as the same).

I think what you need is more self-reflection about what's motivating these desires, and where you picked up these beliefs, and if there's any real truth to be gleaned from it all. This is something we all need, but I think it'd help you now. It's not easy though.

>>18648007
As a lady can confirm, my god I wish guys understood body language more. Verbal crap is cringy and annoying and just kills all attraction and mood. Don't tell me you're interested in me, show me you're interested.

>>18648007

I'll explore on that deep well of masculinity, it's somewhere in me, I know.

>male mentors who can show it to you are rare.

It's quite exhausting to try by yourself because sooner or later you'll hit a plateau and you will wonder about what you did wrong without actually coming to a satisfying answer. Thank you for your time too.

>>18648015
Examples?

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>>18647737
Question for the girls, there's been this qt I've been talking to for a while now and finally went on a date with. While I won't say that the date didn't go well, I couldn't help but feel she was dealing with some serious anxiety (almost spaghetti spilling tier, stuttering a lot, avoiding eye contact). I walk her to her car and she must've said goodbye and hugged like 4 times, I tell her that we should do this again and she sort of turned into a stuttering mess.

My question is, if she really does have anxiety or is a fembot, what can I do to make her more comfortable? I'm planning on taking her bowling next time around on a weekend (not this weekend, Fights on baby), maybe playing some games will lighten her up.

>>18648020
The obvious stuff mostly. When talking get in my bubble, take a step closer to me, look me in the face, throw that arm around me, hold my hand, spoon me, etc.
I swear the first time a guy flooded my panties before I even really knew him was this one guy at a party who managed to kiss my hand when the perfect opportunity for it arose. Was not expecting it but it turned me on immensely.

>>18648019

Plateaus are there to be CRUSHED, anon.
SMASHED
ANNIHILATED
AAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGRGRHHHGHRHGHGHGRHHRHRG

Pray to Thor. He's the sworn Protector of Humanity, and he'll teach you to be masculine.

(not joking, you can go far taking this shit seriously, just don't get schizo with it, voices are to be judged critically)

>>18648015

I'm >>18647893

I understand body language a little, very little. But you know for sure this: it happens sometimes that a guy gives a correct reading, and I'm not talking about the situations I asked advice for, then make a move and the girl retreats. It is painful. So you cannot really blame us. I know it's not your problem and you don't give a fuck, but I tried to explain why sometimes the waiting doesn't measure up to your needs.

weird question but dudes, if you are single, do you prefer a girlfriend that does not browse 4chan? if you are not single, do you prefer if your girlfriend does not browse?

>>18647835
It all depends. But I like girls with long hair. Blonde usually

>>18648040

I'll do it. Definitely saving all these post, and this above all.

>>18648068

In here I read mostly femanons with brain and big balls, so I would like her to browse and write in here, but I would check the chronology from time to time just to be sure...

>>18648068
I don't really care. There are all sorts of people browsing this site, some of which are truly fantastic.
but if she ever, even ironically, visits /pol/, I'd be very, very worried

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My boyfriend cannot take any criticism at all. I've only told him three things, in the past 3 months we've been dating, and he's gotten really defensive and angry at me. I want to mention that I don't nag him, either. Otherwise we are always joking and having fun, I'm always taking him out to dinner and doing little things for him that he likes. I feel like I'm really good to him, but he just doesn't appreciate it or really care that much.

What do? I've talked to him about the criticism thing (although I worded it as "I feel bad because I get anxious talking to you sometimes, because of...) So I didn't accuse him of anything, yet he still got defensive and started focusing on himself, not really caring how it made me feel. Am I being too nice to him? Is he being this way because he doesn't really feel like there's a "chase" involved, or whatever?

How I tell my girlfriend that her mouth smell bad?, is no like it always smells like that but in this right moments does

>>18648100
he has a delicate ego.
something that can be repaired, but it's very hard to achieve. I'd say confront it with all your might and all brutality necessery. But it's more than risky and can lead to a breakup.
So decide what you want and act accordingly

How long does a guy need to last for you fem anons? I've jerked it so often and alone I feel like I've got a hair trigger at least for hand jobs.

>>18648103
my first gf on one occasion decided to be brutal with me about the smell of my cock.
I never forgot to clean it troughoughly since then

>>18648114
Idk if it worth to be brutal, in the year we have been together this is the second time this happens

>>18648103

Using the power of speech when it is not breaking any mood?
It would obviously be a bad idea putting it on the table right during cuddling or sex but in neutral situations it should be good telling her.
What else are you gonna do? Offer a mint and wink?

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>>18648097
>not exposing yourself to all opinions and ideologies even if you initially disagree with them

Do you just hate learning or something?

>>18648120
>second time
come on, dude.
Just fucking forgive her then

>>18648110
How do I repair it? Just be completely honest instead of holding back? For what it's worth I do compliment him and tell him how much I like him all the time, so it's not like I'm railing on him constantly. Or maybe that isn't helping?

>>18648394
>all opinions and ideologies
>/pol/

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>>18647835
Let me tell you something interesting. When I'm outside, I'm mostly attracted to blonde girls for some reason, however, all the best looking chicks that I know of are all brunettes.

It honestly doesn't matter, though.

Femanons, how would you like to be first approached to? What classifies as a good first impression?

>>18648399
I know way too little to be able to tell you anything.
unless you can just describe some actual situations, my knowledge is of no use here.

but as a general rule of thumb, fragile ego *sometimes* needs a good kick so it can fall apart and be rebuild stronger.
Note the use of the word sometimes.

>>18647786
>doesnt post pic
>doesnt tell age
>is super vague
>thinks the average relationship lasts longer than 1.5 year
Just bee yourself femanon. Pro tip: you dont know until you actually try it.

>>18647835
I will take one cute girl for handholding please. Any hair color is ok if it is natural one (aka not pink).

>>18647846
>uh, i want my prince on horse, but only creeps who wants sex are bugging me
>being girl is hard
:-D

>>18647893
>refuse
Try handholding in public first. They need to get used to it.

>>18647940
What an age we live line. Femanons who are dating boys while believing he is with them only for sex, clinging to virginity like some resource while allowing boy to suck their clit. You are like muslim girls who do anal to preserve "virginity".

Maybe try to gain a little confidence and either stop dating somebody you dont trust at all or learn how to trust him.
>I'm so lonely
Maybe try to actually date that boy? Or find more trustworthy one? You are so confusing, make up your mind. And take note that you might never find true "love". And why do you think novody would want you for more than pussy?
>>18647975
Wew. It looks like you have given up. Poor femanon. *hug*

>>18648033
You beat shyness by giving them space and time to get used to your presense. Dont push her too fast and it will go alright. When you ask her something and she shutters, try to wait and repeat later. Or just stay with her silent. Or hold hands. Sooner or later she will get comfortable with you. Dont push much and hope for best.

>>18648068
I like my girl to not be basic bitch. This place is full of controversy and interesting topics to talk about and encourages critical thinking which many people lacks these day. So she being here should be plus for me.

>>18648100
Shatter his ego like glass. He will either lash at you, hit you and then you will know you dont want to marry abuser, or he will break a bit and improve.

>>18648411
Britain was a mistake.

>>18648418
me

(You) --------> joke

LONDON?
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D
O
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>>18648068
I don't really care

>>18648408

A good starting point might be "Honey, I love you, and you know that I love you, I mean, some of my favorite things about you are [XYZ], but whenever I try to give you constructive criticism, I've noticed that often you just lash out at me. It's made me a bit worried that there might be something going on which could hurt our relationship in the future, and I value you too much to let that happen. Is there anything from your past that might account for a soft ego?"

>>18648408
Basically the things I criticized him on are:
-He lets other people push him into doing what he doesn't want to do
-When he touches me and also during oral and such, I try to instruct him on what to do, but he gets upset because I have to keep correcting him. He gets visibly annoyed and it ruins the whole mood.
-Stops to checks his phone while we're doing said things. He got really mad at me for this, saying I was petty and that he didn't want to be with someone who gets upset at him using his phone. I just dropped him and left that day until we cooled off.

Other than that he's always nice and I'm always complimenting him, so I don't know why gets so mad at me. It makes me feel like he doesn't truly like me and has no respect. He's really sweet outside of this so it's really confusing me.

>>18648439
wait
he checks the phone when you have sex?

also, how old are you?

>>18648438
that's a good approach, I back it

>>18648438
Sorry didn't see this until I posted. We did talk for a bit before and he was saying he had anxiety. (I actually have really severe anxiety and I wanted to chime in bad, but didn't) And I tried to listen to him for a while as I was also explaining my side, but he wasn't listening to me and he was getting more emotional. I said we should cool down and we haven't talked since. I am trying really hard to be patient but he just doesn't listen to me and instead tries to defend himself constantly instead of addressing the problem.

>>18648450
Sometimes, he was giving me oral for an hour or so, I think he was getting impatient. We're both 23. After that he never checked his phone again though.

>>18648458
he pretends he's faultless, because he's scared.
Scared of you leaving him and of admitting the truth before himself.

now it's your job to ease it somehow - name the things right, so that he doesn't feel threatened.
Show him, that you value courage above everything else and that's damn courageous to admit own faults. Stuff like that.

>>18648458

If you both have psychological anxiety, but you're the one who's treated theirs, then sadly it falls to you to be the more mature person in the situation.

He doesn't need to be fully listening to you. It's okay if he does the less mature thing of focusing on defending himself.

Because those are things are SYMPTOMS which can only be solved once the CORE ISSUES with his ego and anxiety have been taken care of.

And he only needs to know what you were requesting of him in or4der for you to move towards that.

Since you'll need to be the more mature person, you might need to be the first one to take time to address the things about you that were brought up, then later bring it back around to what was brought up about him, because now that you've addressed his complaints, it's only fair that he address your complaints.

Oh, and >>18648472 is on the money to. Comforting and reassurance are the best antidotes to immediate insecurities.

>>18648411
Not about to post a pic on 4chan, doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do.
I'm 22.
What do you need elaboration on?
And all my friends who are in relationships have been dating for longer than 5 years. Not many people who do want a relationship and not just a friend with benefits are keen on getting too invested in something they know 100% for a fact will end. Because what if you do last longer? What if after 1.5 years you do still love each other? You're just gonna get your heart broken.

And yes, I also have tried looking for a bf. I've been doing that since high school, but it's no longer feesable given the chaotic state of life I'm in where I don't exactly know where my job is gonna take me. Once I'm settled in a fixed location, it'll be a bit easier.

Is being a nice guy actually a turn off?

I don't mean the "nice guy" who is a perma virgin pretending to be nice to try and get laid but then reveals he is a beta dickhead once he has been rejected.
I am kind, generous and treat everyone decently.
Basically I am not a dickhead or an asshole but I am not a doormat either, I will say no to things I am no comfortable with.
Is this a turn off?

>>18648411
I don't think being a normal guy is being a prince... But if you do then man I'm sorry about your self esteem issues.

>>18648484
how many times will you ask this question?

>>18648472
>>18648479
Thanks, now that you put it that way I can deal with it better. If he is coming from a place of insecurity then I should do my best to make him feel more secure instead of getting upset at him. I guess it's difficult when the person is lashing out at you, but easier to see when other people bring it up instead. Thank you.

>>18648491
This is the first time but I am guessing like every general there is an autist who regularly posts the same thing over and over again.

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>>18648481
Posting pic here is a bit scary, but that is all. More than often it can help anons with below zero confidence that they actually look decent. I bet you look like girly girl.
>100% will end
You cant plan your life like this. You need to fail few times before you find "the one". And believe me, uni is the best place for dating and finding your future husband. After you will be out, the dating will be even harder. Find bf while you can and ignore all your fears and prediction about future. Who cares you might moves states in 2 years? If he will bw the one, either you or him will do the compromise and move states together.

Stop being scared of the future and finally take a plunge. If nothing else, it will give you hopefully some happy memories. Date now while you have time and perfect place to meet boys (campus).

>>18648489
If all you have managed to find so far are sex starved creeps, maybe your "average boy who wants relationship" is not average, but top tier prince, or you arent as good catch as you think you are.
>man i sound very edgy today

>>18648411
I know everyone has different ideas on what virginity is, but the majority don't seem to count oral. But fine, I'm a vaginal virgin if you want to get that technical and given that's the kind of sex with the most risk I think it's rather up there.

The thing was, I did trust this guy. I just made the mistake of not verbalizing what I wanted I guess and asking what he wanted. The way he acted, the way he was slow and patient, I was certain he was interested in something more. Every other guy I met who tried to get in my pants 20 minutes into meeting me never talked to me again when I told them to wait and I wanted to get to know them better. I hung out with him for a month before I even kissed him.

>Maybe try to actually date that boy?
Thats what I was doing. A few days ago after months of hanging out and going on dates I finally just asked him "what are we exactly" and he said we were just fuck buddies to him.

> why do you think novody would want you for more than pussy?
Because I've been trying for years to find someone to have any interest in me after I tell them no for sex and it's never happened. This was the first guy I've ever met that even went on a second date with me, let alone hang around me for months even after saying sex wasn't on the table. And even he didn't want me for more than my pussy.

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>>18648484
Tldr dont be doormat and dont be afraid to escallate date to perverse hand holding in public or even kiss!

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>Put on my normie mask
>more than one girl has left me because ''wah we're so different our relatonship will never work out''

ladies, AM I BEING TOO NICE!? DO I NEED TO ACT LIKE A FUCKING WEEB OR SOMETHING?!

>>18648512
I don't have the greatest confidence I'll give, but I'm not below zero. I'm pretty cute in places, I just don't stand out other than having huge tits. That's my bread and butter though seems like guys are all about the ass these days anymore.

Well, again I'd fail if I were given the opportunity to. Nobody wants that risk even if I'm willing to take it. I can't do anything if nobody else is willing to play ball with me.

The thing is, moving across the country is if my career dreams fail, I'll be moving across the ocean if they succeed. There's no fucking relationship in the world that can survive that much distance, and it's hard as hell to get a visa. The odds of 2 people getting a job in the same area of a foreign country at the same time is pretty slim. So at best you're making the decision "do I give up the man in order to make my other dreams come true, or do I give up all my other dreams to keep the man?"

I digress though, I've met just about every damn dude at my school that I'd have a lick of interest in. We're not that big a school and all of the interesting ones are either taken, not looking for a relationship, or gay.

>>18648512
>Using online dating as a measure
By default 90% of people online have something wrong with them, it's not surprising there are a lot of creeps online. That's why I've ditched online dating for the most part.

And yes, it was my own fault for going on a hook up app and not wanting a hook up. So no, the normal dude is not a price. Its just that normal dudes can actually get women in normal ways and don't have to resort to desperation online.

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>>18648513
Sounds like feminism, gender policy and ((them)) have won. I am actually out of advice.

Four last shit advices:
1 ask him if he doesnt want to be exclusive with you and try real relationship.
2 ask him if he doesnt know somebody who is also virgin / weird / lonely guy who you could date
3 ask your friends in 5+ years old relationship about how they did it
4 try to upgrade fwb to regular exclusive relationship, that is what a lot of normies do these days anyway

Good luck femanon.

>>18648533
>I'd have a lick of interest in
Every single time. Try lowering your standards a little.

Also what do you study so rare you managed to meet every student? Or how expensive and private the school is? What about social events you hate and online dating?

>>18648543
Alright. Maybe you can tell these two femanons where to find them and how to force them to take them on more than 1 date.

>>18647737
what can a guy do on a first date that will build attraction and make her want to go on another date with me, without being completely creepy or awkward?

>>18648547
Well for 3 I at least know the answer, they got their guys in high school before the dynamics of dating changed. Dating was much easier before everyone was confident in sex and sexuality.

I guess I can try and do 4, but that means I'll have to have sex with him. I just dont want it to hurt and be awkward. And I really hope 10 years from now I'm not gonna regret wasting my first on some guy who wasn't that into me.

>>18648579
>wasting my first
You said yourself sex is just sex in the end and nothing more. You're caring too much and that will make it awkward, laugh it off and have fun!

>>18648547
I have lowered my standards, so it's just the absolute mandatory stuff I need to not feel like he's going to rape and kill me. You suggesting I date someone I hate or something? That makes me feel extremely uncomfortable? I don't think that will solve the problem, I'll just be uncomfortable and probably fearing for my life, that's how low my standards are currently.
>Be cool, not obnoxious
>Don't be obese.
That's it. That's all I look for. Otherwise I will be scared of them or I will barf imagining fucking them

It took a lot of work to meet the majority of the people around campus at least once, but going to all the clubs and social events in a small town works wonders. Which answers that latter part, I went to them all just to keep talking to people. There's only around 5k students here, and about 62% are women.

When I tried tinder there were about 30 dudes to cycle through unless I increased my range to an unreasonable distance for dating. It's a rural ass town. I live down the street from a cattle ranch.

This one goes out to both genders

We both know the social stigmas that occur between B(m)/W(f) and W(m)/A(f) relationships which border between very negative and positive. But I'm curious, what's the general opinion on B(f)/W(m) and A(m)/W(f) relationships?

>>18648601
Yeah I'm seeing that thats all it is. I'm the only one that wants it to be anything more I guess.

How can I make it hurt less? The other day for the first time he actually was able to put a finger in without me even feeling it, most of the time I feel like a tearing sensation when he does it, but I guess last time I was aroused enough. Still though that was just a finger. He's not huge but he's bigger than a finger.

>>18648605
What the actual fuck are you talking about

>>18648579
>hurt
If you have never inserted anything down there, it WILL hurt. A lot probably. Combine it with the anxiety, being nervous and him being clumsy and it will be easily the worst sexual experience of your life. You will bleed, you will hurt and in the end you will cry because you believe he doesnt see you as human he love, but just as a piece of pussy.

Before you do it, try to ask him if he is seeing any other girls and if doesnt want to be your bf instead. Maybe he was just scared to admit his feelings.

And i will leave this here just in case
https://www.vaginismus.com/vaginismus-treatment/
>>18648601
She has said that, but obviously she doesnt believe it and want that emotional connection first and foremost. She is at that stage where she believes no boy will stay with her unless she uses sex as bait to keep boy hooked in.
>>18648633
The only way is to penetrate yourself first, masturbate like crazy and "strech" your vagina yourself before the act. Sort of like treating vaginism. Either way, it will be unpleasant. And i still think you dont want to do this and therefore you shouldnt. After all,.virginity is just social construct (like monogamy, marriage and even as some pessimists claim: the love).

>>18648578
This >>18648519
The all time favorite oldschool is to smile, talk, walk her home, hold her hand and before the date ends ask for kiss as reward for being pleasant gentelman.

>>18648604
>1900 boys
>every single of them wasnt either good enough or interested in what i want aka relationship
Sounds like average not obnoxious not fat boy is indeed prince where you live. Tough luck.

>>18648655
Opinions on black female/white male and Asian male/ white women relationships

>>18648661
No one gives a fuck, you autistic moron.

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>>18648661
It is all just racism.

>>18648656
I already asked him clearly if he was interested in more than sex, he said no pretty clearly. And I mean, it's not really a belief as much as a fact now is it? If I were capable of being loved he would have happily loved me, but instead he just wants to bang me.

>Easily be the worst sexual experience of your life
Is there really any avoiding that though? At this rate I feel like even if the guy was head over heels for me it's still gonna suck and hurt.

But maybe I wouldn't cry in that scenario. I think I can at least hold back the tears until after if it comes to that.

>>18648401
>anything that doesn't align perfectly with my beliefs and values is invalid! REEEE

cuck

>>18648656
Thats only if you're implying every single good guy there was also interested in me.
There were a lot of decent dudes actually. But again, most were taken, even more were gay, and the rest did not want to get too involved during college.

I'm flattered you think that every single boy I'd like automatically would be interested in me but as great as I am I'm still not that great. I'm happy you think so highly of me anon, it sure is tough luck not living up to your expectations.

>>18648633
I'm a guy and haven't been with a virgin before so I wouldn't know exactly.
But mine is pretty wide so I've hurt the two girls I've been with. I found the wetter they were the easier it was for them. I've had to be quite dominant before putting it in to achieve this. Gripping her back/arse/neck. Then slowly in and out with just the tip, putting a little more in each time.
Don't be afraid to let whoever you do it with know what turns you on particularly.

>>18648669
You just made me feel like wanting to teleport to you and ask you on regular date where i would promise i wont pressure you into sex and wont leave you even if you will wait with it a LOOONG time. Girl please, i dont know much about you (apart from the terrible fear from sex), but you surely arent that bad as you think.
>inb4 white knight
Whatever you decide to do, i wish you good luck. And realize what you are saying:
>i dont want casual sex
>i want bf
>therefore i let this dude who doesnt love me to take my virginity even though i know it will hurt
Hint: it just doesnt make sence.

>>18648674
Well played femanon. Still i dont believe you that you managed to screen EVERY single one of them and nobody was ok + interested in dating you.

And now post your pic to see if you live to my expectations (i expect you to look like girly girl!)

Anyway i am out, peace femanons, let all of you find that qtie lanklet who want more than cum and dump!

Where do women usually find men?

Women: what would motivate you to get back together with an ex? What would de-motivate you?

>>18648699
Why'd you and your ex break up?

>>18648672
what
can you even read

>>18648701
not 100% sure, but I think it's because I wasn't spending enough time with her, and because I wasn't attending to emotional needs (she was hurt and said ' i need space ' i said yes like a dumbass, not realizing that she wanted me to be there for her)

my plan was to make some changes in my life that would show that I have more time, then casually invite her out so she can see i'm more available.

>>18648691
I know it doesn't make much sense, but the choice I'm making is
>Give up the fairy tale first time fantasy and not be so lonely because once I become your common slut I'll at least have as many companions as I want and I'll never be physically alone
>Hold onto the fantasy and be miserably alone.

>>18648692
male here, I've met girls at my bouldering gym, book store, through friends. I'm sure there's other places you can easily approach girls in a friendly social setting.

>>18648691
I'll just confirm your suspicious verbally, I probably am a girly girl. I have hair past my shoulder blades and like fun, cute, frilly tops and short shorts. Lace is big with me and I also like to do my hair up with obnoxious bows.

>>18648716
Maybe talk to her about the breakup and find out for sure why she broke up with you

>>18648726
what she said specifically was "i don't feel the heart connection anymore". she also mentioned not being able to see me enough. the rest is me reading between the lines.

>>18648726
she also said that she felt like things had puttered out (i was seeing her less) and that we had moved into friends (we were talking on the phone, but not seeing each other).

How do you meet a random person off the internet for a hook up? Like every time I try to I lose my spaghetti because it's so awkward to just like, meet a person for the first time with the explicit intention of fucking.
>in b4 just don't do that
I don't want the effort of dating I just want something fast and easy that will be over in a night but it's just so weird feeling? How do other women do this shit I just sperg out when he opens the door.

Has my texting game gotten weak or something?

I got 4 girls number this weekend and they have been pretty wishy-washy. One I texted and didn't even get a response. Second one I texted saying we should go do X at Y. Messaged me 2 days later saying she didn't see my text. So I said we should do X at Y tonight and she said she had plans that tonight but tomorrow was good. Said sure, X at Y. She never replied back, sent a confirm text the next day saying I'd pick her up at X, no response, called her an hour prior no response. 3rd girl will text me back but whenever I suggest a date she goes afk. Only the 4th girl keeps up with me and we have plans for tomorrow.

baka

>>18648765
>I got 4 girls number this weekend
They gave you their numbers out of politeness or to get you off their backs. You're practically a stranger to them, they don't give a fuck about you.

>>18647737
Question for girls- What makes you feel like grinding against some dude in, say, a subway car or a bus?? Like i don't mind, i liked it the two or three times it happened, but then i feel this akward thing if its too obvious, or whatever, like i don't really like that, so maybe that's what girls feel like when some creep does it?

>>18648775
Well this was on Tinder after we had a decent conversation. They could have just un-matched me or not bothered giving me their number.

>>18648784
>Tinder
You might as well have not met any girls, you were never going to get anywhere with them. Girls are primarily on Tinder for validation and attention.

>>18648792
I've met up/hooked up with a few Tinder girls so far. Every girl that has given me their number has always replied promptly to my texts. These three haven't and it bothers me for some reason.

Girls:
Would you be bothered/disgusted to find out that your (otherwise totally normal) bf masturbates with anal sex toys on the regular? I've never brought this kind of thing up before so I have no way of gauging her feelings on it. This can't stay a secret forever, we're moving in together soon...

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Girl here. Trying to seal the deal with this guy. People have told me I'm more attractive than him but he fuels my fetish and I must have at least one time. We've hung out before but hasn't tried anything more than a hug. He got wasted last weekend and ask my friend if I like him and tried to get me to come out with them. He never goes beyond teasing flirting over interest not much else. How can I move this shit along faster?

>>18648906
I would probably feel disgusted and disappointed.

>>18648906
haha I wouldn't care but some people can be weird about butt stuff. Guess it really depends on whether or not it's a Segway question in bringing butt stuff into the bedroom.

>>18648747
how attractive are you?

>>18648913
just tell him you're going somewhere and ask him to come along. Once you are alone, show him the right body language,some compliments, etc.

>>18648913
Depends on the guy, if he is shy and introverted you should take the lead and make a move.
If he is more on the alpha side, just hint your intentions and he should make the move as long as he isn't a retard.
Bumping mine >>18648406

>>18648926
Probably no higher than a 7.

>>18648933
I'm this anon >>18648913

Thanks for the response. Are you talking about randomly at a bar or on a first date? I just like a random conversation unless you're really hot. A nice smile and a how are you? Can go a long way. Then again I've made the first move and it's obviously playing on easy mode for women.

>>18648906
Idk, it would be rough on me, but so long as he properly sanitizes everything afterwards and keeps everything put away and I don't have to be involved with any of that, what he does behind closed doors is on him.

>>18648920
>>18648922
50/50
Good enough for me.

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My self-esteem's dead and it's logical to assume I'll never find love. Weight loss? Skin improvement? Did shit for me. Hell, my confidence was way better when I was a fat girl. I felt good about myself and life. Even had a bit of devious sense of humor. Nowadays? Nope, just pain.

I have a good friend. I've known her almost all of my life (19 years).
>want to be with her forever
>other people make me sad or guilty, she doesn't
>she feels like the only person who gets me
>I love her, her virtues and her flaws
>can talk with her about anything and in any depth--I can't do that with anyone else
>only person I can laugh with

It isn't like I hate other people...in fact, I've liked many and wish we could have been friends. But I'm not good enough. It always feels like that, and with romance in general, too. If someone shows interest in me I assume it's because my flaws are being obscured in some way--that they'd hate me the moment they saw actually saw me.

So...I've accepted that I'll likely be alone for the rest of my life. But what ever can I do to not feel so terribly about myself and be less dependent on my friend for companionship?

>>18648944
7's are nice. Cute but not intimidating more points if you're older and can hold a 7 later in life. Even more, if you're not in a big city with a lot of young 8's and up. I'd just say you gotta go fishing and come home empty more often than not. Go to a place you know people are going to get trashed if you really want something fast.

>>18648959
Get out of that self-pity pool party. You're not a kid anymore and feeling sorry for yourself won't improve your life.

>>18648952
>>18648954
Alright 33% is cutting it close
This might end up being a secret forever

>>18648959
You're heading in the best looking years of your life. Don't waste them. Someday you'll pass that prime and be scrambling to get back into the game when it's too late.

>>18648960
Drunk sex is never good though lol.

But yeah I'm definitely peaked in my sexual attractiveness and it's all downhill from here, but hey, that's why I should live it up while I can and an hero later when I'm too old and ugly for a guy to even look at lol.

Guess my issue with irl stuff is I do not have game and also it's such a bitch to compete with all the other sluts and whores. At least with online stuff they come to me after getting shot down by the hotter women, I don't have to stand next to the hotter woman and desperately try to grab attention, I'm just the cheaper model in the catalog.

>>18648933
What's a good hint that doesn't come off as too slutty or desperate? I get whiskey clit way too easily so I gotta walk the line of getting drunk confidence carefully.

>>18648976
yeah, I haven't done the whole tinder thing until recently because I've had a bad track record with cute pictures and ugly irl guys. You got any cool hobbies or interests? If not you at least got cash?

>>18648946
Like at uni. I don't think I'm really hot, but I'm not ugly either. I really need to learn how to smile.
>>18648982
Well, to not come off as sluty or desperate both of you should be in the mood. Like if you randomly say "let's have sex" it'd seem desperate, but if he is turned on by whatever and you respond to that state it would feel only natural to have sex.
Saying something like "stay at my place tonight" is pretty straightforward and shouldn't sound slutty if you say it after a date where both of you had something to drink.

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>>18648971
If this past year has taught me anything it's that someone like me shouldn't be in a relationship. That and it seems gross to me, at least from what I get from 4chan.

>"trapping" a guy when you're young and beautiful
>lose that and your man's love in a few years
>but he still feels obligated to stay

I definitely don't want to live a life like that. I'd rather be alone.

>>18648991
pfft I will never pay for dick, I won't stoop that low.

But, unfortunately personality don't mean shit in the casual sex game. Just gotta be hot enough to fuck and just sane enough not to try and poke a hole in the condom or cry rape or something.

>>18648068
I think if anything I'd prefer someone who browses 4chan. People that don't tend to have very negative perceptions of it, and anyone who uses it.

>>18649001
Yeah, a smile goes a long way I'd start with a sarcastic one you could use while flirting or teasing. That's my go to. A drink or two usually helps too.

And yeah I just can't totally read this guy. It's really frustrating because I'm usually good at that or the guy has been straightforward in his attraction to me. I guess I'm just a girl who gets hot and bothered for a hard to get playing fellah.

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Wtf do y'all want? Is it personality or looks? Cause I've been told I have looks but I've had several girls ignore me for less attractive short dudes who were socially competent. I wanna die

Is it weird if I follow my ex's mom on IG? We dated long enough that we were close.

>>18649121
Personally I just want you to shave.

PSA: if you have poor beard coverage, you can't grow one and shouldn't try.

>>18648605

I've legit heard people argue that white guys being with black girls is amoral because it's colonialist and robbing a minority of their culture. The only person I've ever heard actually say that in person though was a black woman who's fucking nuts.

As for Asian men and white women, it's too uncommon for most people to have strong opinions about it.

>>18648906
I personally wouldn't care. Maybe I'd even like it. Hmm. But I can see it bothering other pepole.

>>18648922
Would it segway-ing into asking for butt stuff in the bedroom bother you? If so, how much?

>>18647835
Gingers

>>18647876
This. Honestly not being fat is way more important than any other aspect of someone's appearance.

Are guys into girls with hairy assholes?

>>18649267
I'm not sure if I'd say "into," but it doesn't really bother me.

>>18649267
not really.
But the asshole that turned me on the most through my whole life was one trimmed like three days earlier - with short, straight, black hair. I loved it.

>>18649259
I'm twig-skinny right now but why the fuck do people hate fat so much? And where does "fat" begin? 20 extra pounds? Or less?

It seems to go beyond health.

>>18649291
Personally, 25% body fat is the acceptable max, but opinions vary.

>>18649291
I don't really know enough about weight to put a number on it, but it's something you can tell visually. The distinction between chubby, thick, and fat can vary between people.

The dislike of fat is mostly because of subconscious associations with someone being fat. Fat people are associated with being lazy, general unmotivated, and being unhygienic.

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>tfw I'm the only one encouraged by my fashionista dormmate to get make-up (it's almost an everyday thing)
>also am only one she experiments on
>tfw everyone else - who have been described as being 3-6s by guys - doesn't get that treatment even though they never wear make-up either

Is it wrong to think this means that I have a really manly face?

>>18649465
I mean manly in a sloppy, unfeminine way.

>she initiates texts and calls
>talks to me daily almost
>have asked her out recently, she said "let's see what happens" and "you're a good guy" (which indicates I got ushered into VIP friendzone booth)
>still friendly, etc
>I never text her but she will always find a way to text me to initiate something

So what's going on? Assburger here has hard time reading through the bullshit.

1. She's initiating 90% of our conversations
2. She will find a way to continue the conversation.

We're both in our mid-20's so this isn't teenager shit, but I'm at a loss. We went out on two "outings", I asked her out but admittedly in a splurgy autistic tier way, we've been on an outing since then and it's daily calls/texts. So I don't get what's going on here.

>she also has two kids so maybe that's why she's hesitant but she brought her three year-old daughter to our last "date" and let me meet her,

Typically, my understanding is if a single mom lets you meet the kid(s), that's positive?

>>18649465
It could mean the opposite, that you have a very girly feminine face that looks great with make up and is fun to doll up.

I have never heard of anyone enjoying dolling up an ogre. On the other hand I know enough girls who love dolling each other up making each other look great etc.

Also no amount of make up makes a manly face look unmanly. In fact I don't think I have seen anyone who looked good with make up but then looked horrible without. They either look good both with and without, or they look terrible and no amount of make up can change it. The make up just brings out the best of a face. My 2cts anyway.

Off the only way to get a legit non-conjecture opinion on the matter would be to post your face.

>>18649479
I have a similar situation here.

Entire relationship I have with this woman (32, I am 27) was initiated by her. First two "dates" initiated by her too, nothing romantic just a bar. Super flirty with me at work for the entire week after. Decide to call her and ask her out for dinner, cue a mysterious friend who she happens to be seeing on that exact day at that exact time. Next day she calls back apologetically, informs me her friend stood her up and she regretted not going out with me. Tell her it's ok and that we can do something that day or the day after to make up for it. She gets vague and it boils down to a no. Why the fuck does she even apologetically phone me back for in first place then?

I have genuinely no idea what my standing is with this woman. Does she fancy me? Am I simply hardcore friendzoned?

All I keep thinking of is that song "some of them want to use you, some of them want to be used by you. Some them want to abuse you, some of them want to be abused." I just wish I knew to which "some" I belonged to here.

Driving me legit mad.

Where are some good places to meet girls, preferably nerd ones.

I don't go out much, and I spend most of my time playing vidya or dnd. The only times i'm really out of the house is at work, which there are plenty of cute girls but most are taken, or my one day of Uni which I'm only in class and out straight away as it's far as fuck from home.

My question to girls is essentially where would be a good place for someone like me to go to to meet new people at, I'm not totally ugly nor a social autist, but far from a chad too if that helps.

>>18649523
If you're into dnd hobby shops usually have events. MTG drafts and the like. You can probably meet people there.

>>18649479
She has kids but no husband/partner. I.e. Her previous experience with men is terrible, and they have proven to be unreliable. She now has her kids to think of so she will be thinking twice before getting into another serious relationship. Expect things to go at a snail's pace. Also make sure her ex left simply because he was an inexcusable asshole and not because she is batshit insane and was too much to put up with.

>>18649523
Comic Cons or Anime Cons, depends on your interest.

>>18649481
You're probably right except for your observations. I think I may honestly look unpleasantly sickly without make-up on now that I properly look at myself.
For example, I don't need lipstick or mascara. I've long, dark lashes despite my light hair, and plump red lips. Thinking about the experiences I went through, it seems to be how perfectly I cover up my skin that seems to make the difference.

It's not a huge loss, but kind of depressing when covering up my face is so important. Has a way of fucking up your self-esteem and making you second-guess anytime anyone seems to find you attractive.

>>18649555
You are contradicting yourself.

I am right, but wrong.

You look sickly, but don't need makeup and have full plump lips, long eyelashes etc.

Que?

Do you mean that you are sickly pale, and is that what you are referring to when you are talking about how covering your skin makes the difference?

If that is the case I'll let you in on a secret and tell you a lot of men like extremely pale skin, as long as we aren't talking about a waxy insipid corpse paleness. If that isn't what you mean then you need to enlighten me.

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GUYS how old are you?
Is picture related really true?

>>18649577
26
For me personally it's bullshit, The youngest person I have dated was still 5 years my senior.
For a plethora of reasons which I won't bore you with unless you want me to.

>>18649575
Well, I wish it was just pale skin--that'd be awesome. What I seem to have the combination of blemishes and dark circles which ages me significantly...that, and bad skin itself is extremely unfeminine.

I'm glad it doesn't appear to be my face's shape, at least.

>>18649596
*face's shape that's the problem is what I mean.

Anybody : a girl I hooked up with a couple times and stopped talking to because she lied a lot, just texted me after months of no contact, talking about how she saw me pass by the store the other day and said sorry our "friendship" ended badly. Is she just looking for attention? Should I even respond?

>>18647744
with a coconut

>>18649596
Could you post a picture? Of your skin, not your face. I reckon you are making it sound a lot worse than it is. I have a friend who has (mild and under control) psoriasis and whenever it flares up, no matter how small the affected area, she makes it sound like she needs to join a leper colony.

>>18649603
Respond if you're okay with going back to talking with her I guess. You ditched her for a pretty good reason though. There's no reason you can't be friends with a liar as long as you are aware of it I guess.

>>18649603
Did you ever think of asking her why she lied a lot?
What sort of lies are we talking about anyway?
"I really enjoyed your cooking anon" tier lies? Or "I don't know why the baby is black, I swear I only sleep with you" tier lies?

>>18649588
That pretty much proves the picture correct though.

>>18649625
She would lie about things like where she was, what she was doing, who she was with, etc... and when I would confront her about a lie she would deny them, every time.

>>18649643
All sounds pretty harmless to me, sounds more like she was worried about what you might think of her or so.

>>18649639
Well I sort of assumed I was closer to the old guy's age than the boy's age.

Also knowing myself, me being interested in older women is never going to change, to me it is a lot more than purely physical. I also simply can not deal with the usual naive bullshit of younger girls.

Here is one of the many reasons I prefer older women. They don't talk about their friends, heck a lot don't have massive groups of friends anymore. The amount of times I have tried dating or dealt with younger women and all they'll talk about is their social circle is too many to count. It drives me up the wall. It is like being stuck in an episode of The only way is Essex. I don't get that with 30 and over, not as much anyway.

I have a five-and-a-half inch penis. I've realize casual sex is out of the question, but if I'm in a serious romantic relationship with someone, is this going to be a deal-breaker?

>>18649680
>every thread

Literally average. As in, ~60% of the male population has a penis that size. Any girl you come across will have seen a penis that size before.

>>18649693
That doesn't really answer my question.

>>18648605
Who gives a fuck, really?

It so happens that I (w f) only ever ran into Asian guys who had zero confidence in bed, and by confidence I mean confidence, cause the penises were nice. And so I've started to become iffy about dating Asians, cause I'm not prepared to fix peoples egos.

>>18649680
5.5-6 is statistically average. Also a romantic relationship built on the size of your penis is not a romantic relationship.
Also just by the by, foreplay is 90% of the work. Jack hammering with a 18" mandingo may look good in porn and might impress the occasional clubsloot but you can get so much more done with tongue and fingers.

>>18649697
It absolutely does. If you consider that it's a normal progression in western society to marry a woman and have a family, that means approximately 60% of the happy couples you see out and about involve a 5.5" penis.

>>18648906
He would have to keep them clean, and include me if I happen to be there.

Girls, is going thrift shopping for a first date a good idea? I already know the girl I'm thinking of asking out is into that kind of stuff, we'd probably get coffee as well.

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>>18647737
I have been with my GF for over 3 years now.

She is amazing in so many ways and we decided to get married. But i am having second thoughts for the most selfish reason i can think of.

Basically it boils down to sex which is probably less than once a month at this point. She has never been a total nymph but i never imagined it would be this bad. I also imagined i would deal with it better.

She is always very cuddley and doting. She clearly cares for me and finds me attractive. But she just wont initiate sex. Its always me.

Its infuriating because i pretty often have women in my life who a few years ago i could be nailing, but now i am in a relationship i can't do a thing.

other realationships i was getting sex way more often. My last gf was insatiable. Now i find myself seriously considering an escort or something just to get it out of my system, but i could never look her in the face if i did that.

tl;dr mismatched libido is causing me to rethink marriage.

>>18649713
>mismatched libido is causing me to rethink marriage.

Dude, you haven't seen anything yet.

Marriage, and childbirth. Holy shit. Best get used to it.

>>18649713
No advice sorry but that picture is holy fucking accurate.

>feminism means I don't have to learn to cook as a woman!
>but cooking is a basic life skill-
>FEMINISM

Guys, there is this certified player dude I hang out with, that I know fucked every woman he knows, taken or not. He just hangs out with me, we had many occasions where we could have hooked up but did not. Am I just a bro to him instead of a woman or what do you think this is? Like I see in his eyes that he likes what he sees, but then something stops him, and I'm like ??

>>18649713
Is she on the pills or something?
Try to get her to change them or get off of them altogether, sounds like me when I was on the pills.

>>18649712
Yeah, just make sure there are many thrift shops in the area, otherwise prepare more stuff.

>>18649716
see i knew that meme answer would be posted. Friends i have talked to have pretty much said that sex had been fairly consistant (ranging from 8 to 12 years marriage).

And sex hasn't so much reduced in our relationship but rather, stayed at a consistant low. Before i could play it off as us not living together, but now we are in the same house.

I'm one here from time to time and I think I'm incapable of love.

>>18649732
Meme. You kids and your memes. It's not a meme, it's a trend. A statistic. A fact. A remnant of human evolution in a world enraptured by the concept of monogamy.

It never gets better. The more time you spend around somebody, the less stimulating their presence is going to become.

>>18649723
why should we help you hooking up with a chad?

>>18649735
Humans are stupid.

Girls:

I have an unnaturally long tongue, it's sticks out about 2 1/2" from my lips when extended.

Would you consider that a turn off?

I'm otherwise fairly fit, and well off... aside from the freak tongue, of course. Used to get teased a lot for it.

>>18649866
If you know how to use it properly I'd say that's a bonus.

>>18649866
How often do you go about sticking your tongue way out when interacting with women on a daily basis?

>>18649885
Never usually purposefully, but due to it's length, it can be a bit hard to speak while keeping it curled in my mouth, so I have to open my mouth a bit more to pronounce some vowels. Sometimes people just see it while I'm speaking and ask about, so I wanted to know.

This guy i'm "e-dating" (as ridicolous as it sounds) sent me a pic of his dick while it was covered with a pair of boxers.
It looks like he expects me to beg him to take the boxers off so he can show his entire dick which makes me feel uncomfortable since i've showed him some nudes already and find it kind of unequal.
I wish we were more spontaneous about the sexy stuff without one "begging" the other which makes me just feel uncomfortable and a slut.
What do?

>>18649899
Tell him exactly what you told us.

>>18649899
Well, I mean, you're e-dating a guy. That's a start.
Then there's the fact that his entire life story could be a lie. Then there's the fact that you're trading pictures with a person you've never actually spent real time in the same room with.

So...

What do you have to lose, exactly?
Pride from asking silly questions on an anonymous imageboard because you're self-conscious about things that have little bearing in reality notwithstanding.

>>18649899
I mean, most women don't actually want a guy to send dick pics in the first place. It's always a safer bet to go with something like what he sent.

I suspect what he's really doing is simulating foreplay. You start out clothed and undress each other and whatnot. It doesn't make you a slut to say you want to see his dick.

>>18648779
They were perverted. If you like it, you can always try and get off the bus in the same station as them and chat them up. Who knows, maybe they would want more if you will flirt a bit and extract their number. Or the bus was super crowded and they were forced to squeeze your butt.

>>18648913
>>18649723
Boys like sex. So all you need to do is simply ask him to walk you home. Once you are there, ask him if he wants to go inside with you and get a coffe or netflix. It should go pretty smoothly once you are in private. Cuddle, kiss, molest, be a bit bold and see if he will do you in the end or you will have to rape him instead.

>>18648959
>>18649733
Stop being prison gay and spin the dating game. Social events you hate, friends friends, online. Try to smile at boys and attemp flirting. Dont give up!
>>18649021
You are saying it like nobody wants children anymore. We still do! Well at least some do.

>>18649291
http://www.calculator.net/bmi-calculator.html

>>18649465
Post your face batman!

>>18649479
>single mother
Run! Run and dont look back! She is a showcase of failure. She has to be really crazy or really dumb if she wasnt able to hold her husband (or pick right guy). DO NOT DATE! Please DO NOT DATE! You can do better!

>>18649504
Ask her on date again. If you want to date/fuck/marry her, ignore all her words and focus on hwr actions. Girls which find you fancy dont reject dates with you.

>>18649577
If i havent masturbated for a week, i will try to fuck your younger sister, you, your older sister, your mum, her female coworkers and maybe even your grandma. Luckily we can fap daily so we can keep the gentelman image and pretend we love only our gf.

>>18649603
Do you want to date/duck her? If yes, ask her on date. Simple.

>>18649680
Your penor is ok. Master oral sex and make them cum before you insert and no lady will be dissapointed.

>>18649713
Make her to stop taking bc. And make her fap you each morning.

>>18649899
Ask him on date.
>inb4 ldr
Ldr is a scam. No cuddling, no bf. Find boy from your location.

>>18647744
I've tried a few things, anal, facial, waxplay, tail plugs, being tied.
>>18647751
I guess I could be considered prudish because it's not something I discuss in public, but I'm quite open with my partner, I don't pretend I don't like certain things.

>>18647744
With my hand

>>18647744
A man sticking his tongue up my ass, probably. Not that experienced.

>>18647751
Don't quite fit this one but I wanted to chime in that you can't really tell from how a girl acts publicly. There's girls who love to act provocative more than they love sex. My most prudish friend is actually not a fan of sex at all (in fact she might be asexual, but it's not a topic we can freely discuss so I don't know that for sure). I am into some weird kinky stuff and I guess I'm average in public (eg I sometimes joke about sex as a concept and am fine hearing/talking about it in general terms but do not want to make my own sex life a topic of conversation, I think guys often come on much too strong, do not dress provocatively etc).

The idea that there's a given type of women who's always hypersexual is of course pleasant but as far as I'm aware there's no such thing, the same behavior can serve different purposes for different people.

>>18650093
I'm confused. You mean what she meant with "uh huh" or did you mislabel the messages?

>>18650098
Sorry yeah I fucked up. Let me try again:

Me: The girls at the event were showing a lot of skin. I greatly admired their bare..... valour.
Her: Uh huh.
*2 hours later*
Her: You looked really buff in your photo since the last time I saw it.

What did she mean by this?

>>18650106
Sounds to me like a weirdly worded compliment. Basically "I am only now noticing that you look buff in your (I'm assuming profile) photo". Impossible to tell from this alone whether she wanted to compliment you or to flirt with you etc.

>>18650113
Fuck you. Tell me she wants my dick.

I'm just kidding. Thanks for the honesty, anon.

>>18650118
Hey I'm not ruling it out :) it's a promising sign if nothing else, but it depends on the individual how flirty they'll be without serious intentions, more than on the bare message. Basically how far out of the ordinary this is for her specifically.

You're welcome.

Going to break up with my girlfriend (2 months) today. Thought it would be best to talk her for a walk.
> Super stresses already, questions in my mind
> How long do I wait to bring this up, can't step out of the car and just tell her right?
> Do I let her drive so I don't have to drop her off after it is over?
> Do I directly leave after telling her?

Any advice welcome.

>>18650127
Go to/near her place. You want to avoid any risk of her relentlessly crying in or near your house and your hands being tied.

Don't mask that you're not being your normal self, say right away that you need to talk to her. Eg "can we go for a walk, there's something I need to discuss with you". You don't want to have to flip 180 from kissing and catching up to "oh btw I'm breaking up". She'll likely fear a break up right away and has some time to mentally prepare herself.

Let it depend on her reaction whether or not you want to leave right away. Maybe she'll even tell you to go (if she doesn't want you to see her break down or whatever). If she starts crying or whatever I think the kindest thing is to at least ask if she still wants to ask/say some things. Though technically you are not obligated to stay. Definitely leave right away if she starts calling you names or whatever other hostile response, maybe you can talk about it later but at that point there's no merit in staying around.

Good luck.

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>>18650106
Do you want to date/fuck/marry her? Ignore all her mind games and ask her on date. Dont forget to cuddle the bitch later!

>>18650165
She's taken and I just want to fuck her.

Do any women hate or are annoyed by kids? Is this a very bad trait if a guy hates or can't stand kids? I mean of course I try to hide this like anyone else who also hates kids, but still.

I know touching the girl is super important but should you do it outside dates? Also wondering because it seems that most of the 20 year olds I currently meet always touch their female friends like they are already a couple so I'm wondering if I should do exactly the same or be myself/be different about it.

>>18650180
Sure, but it's not the most common. I have some friends who are indifferent towards kids and have little patience with a kid crying or otherwise being loud around them, but none who really hate kids. Doesn't mean they don't exist but once again it's not the most common.

Personally speaking yes this would be incredibly unattractive to me, but I love kids a lot. I think it's one of these things where you have to feel it yourself to understand. Again though there's a lot in between hating kids and being crazy about them, many girls probably won't notice as long as you don't really express much on the topic.

A guy I like enjoy just causing me a little bit of pain during sex. It's been a while but I admitted that it still hurts when he first enters me. Then he asked if it hurt after that and during sex and he looked concerned. . What does this mean.. is he worried that there is something wrong with me?

>>18650194
I think most normal human beings don't enjoy causing pain to another, especially if that other person is a girl he doesn't want to turn off sex for.

>>18650194
Nobody likes the thought that their partner doesn't is actively in pain during sex. Sounds like you need some additional warm-up before full penetration. Fingering or using toys helps, also try using lube. He probably just feels a little guilty and doesn't want you to be suffering the entire time. If he doesn't believe you after sitting him down and explaining it that's his issue though

>>18650186
Touching is an interaction like anything else. You can see whether she reciprocates but always start with something safe (eg a tap on the shoulder or grabbing her arm, not putting a hand on her waist) and give her the chance to do it back. If she doesn't, don't keep pushing it. Touching should also be in tune with the rest of your interaction. If she is smiling at you lots, giggling, acting sassy and otherwise seeming into you, then you can go a lot further than when the conversation won't flow, she doesn't make a lot of eye contact and so on. The amount of physical touch should mirror your chemistry and how well you know one another.

Similarly my male friends can touch me more than I would accept from a guy I don't know well and am not close with. Exactly because I both feel comfortable with them and confident that they aren't fishing for more/won't turn around and accuse me of leading them on because I didn't put up boundaries. I think touching like you're in a relationship is pointless, though, nothing good can come of blurring the lines and you shouldn't need to go that far to express affection to a friend.

>>18650138
Thanks for her advice. She told me she has not time tonight when I asked her to go for a walk. This is so stressful, as there's a bunch of family stuff coming up in the weekend and I just want to get it over with.

>>18650199
>>18650200
Thanks. I thought perhaps he thought I was sick.

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>>18650174
>taken
Since girl having "boyfriend" stopped anybody from having sex? Ask her on date. Pretend she is single, smile, eye contact, flirting and dont forget to ask for netflix and chill. Not a single word about her relationship / bf.

Cuddle the shit out of her. Be that harmless teddy bear who likes to hold hands, cuddle and pet. If she agrees with going out, she already decided to cheat. After a bit of assault cuddling she will be all over you. Ask her to hang out with you. Dinner? Park? Netflix and chill? You know what she will agree to. Pic related.

>>18650180
I know plenty. Also these days a lot of them never want kids, so you should be ok as kid hater.

>>18650186
Once you had make out cuddle session, you can do whatever you feel ok with. Personally i like hand holding. It symbolizes the relationship to everybidy around, it is cute and pervese at the same time.

That said, everybody is different, ask your gf about it, another juicy topic for next date.

>>18650194
>enjoy just causing me a little bit of pain
Your english either sucks a lot or how do you know he enjoys it?

Sex for boys is pure pleasure and when you admit it isnt as good for you, it can make us feel bad. Do you even do foreplay? Additional lube?

Is it too silly for an adult to ask a girl out by passing a piece of paper written "do you want to go out with me []yes []no"?
As extra details I already sort of went out (more like hung out) with her once recently but now feel like we grew a bit apart for some reason. Also she's into silly childish stuff sometimes and we have to do some handicrafts together this weekend.

>>18650226
For many people it would be but if she's into it... I would just make sure that if she looks up you're ready to give her a cheeky grin and drive the point home that it was ironic.

>>18650226
More conventional method is simply text / call her. Thing is she is probably into you all this time, only your inexperience / shyness holds you back.

Ask her on date already tiger. Yes even your papet method is better than nothing. Dont forget to smile!

>>18649577
s-shut up

>>18649577
24

Kind of true, but not that bad. Dude looks like he's going into his 50.

When I was younger, I was more attracted to slightly older women (~30) at my current age, I'll occasionally look at 16-30 year old women. Less because I'm attracted to 16 year old girls, but more because that line can often be pretty blurry unless you ask. If she's filled in, and acts like an adult.. You know? Even 20-30 can be pretty blurry depending on the individual.

>>18650321
I guess I should probably add, my preferred age range would be 20-30.

>>18649577
33.
I mean in some cases, but not necessarily. When I was a teen, I was generally attracted to other teens. Now that I'm in my thirties, I find myself super attracted to women in their 30's and early 40's.

>>18649729
Cool thanks for your approval, there are a few so I think we'll be good

>>18647751
Yes. I will never talk about anything sexual in public and hold disdain for other people when they talk about it loosely. I feel like it's something you should discuss only privately with your partner or very close friends. I also dislike when people make out and grind against each other in public.
Most people actually think I'm asexual. No one would guess but I'm dominant in the bedroom. I love tying my boyfriend up, riding his face, spanking him, pegging him, leaving marks on him, pouring candle wax over him, stuff like that.

How close is too close when I'm talking to a girl I'm interested in for the first few times?

Late to the thread:

Girls/Boys: Does it mean anything when you like a bunch of pictures from the opposite gender on Instagram?

Basically, the girl I like is really into landscapes/stars so I'm not surprised she liked those. But even the shitty pics of him and the shirtless pics? Yikes. Should I be worried here?

>>18650516
Yeah probably. As a guy that'd be a huge red flag.

I advanced too fast and broke this girl's (19, introvert, beginning year 2 college) trust by making out with her. She is a virgin, was kissliss. "Talking" for 6 weeks. She "enjoyed" it but added "this is about as far as I'll go until marriage" and we did it a second day in a row. We talked about it the 3rd day and while she said she enjoyed it she doesn't want "to hurt your feelings or my feelings". She'd go on to reaffirm our status as "not dating". We went on to cuddle in the park and she explained that she has trouble saying no and she could easily be taken advantage of. At the end we kissed a bit and she said "sorry" for getting me aroused. I explained to her that she did not have to think that way.

I put a shit load of pressure on her. I've acted clingy. She senses my weakness. I broke a barrier and her trust but as far as I can tell she is still interested in hanging out.

The writing is on the wall here but I'm wondering if I should continue with absolute diligence, or have I lost her completely already, rending any additional time useless? I feel strongly about her but then again I also feel like a pig for my sexual desires. I don't want to corrupt her any more than I have.

>>18650564
I don't think you broke her trust. She chose to make out with you.

>>18650487
You mean physically? That's just something you test the waters on mate. Work up to it slowly and pay attention and she'll show you her boundaries. Make sure you're in a relatively open space, you don't want to back her against a wall (or wall of people). Just slowly get closer over the course of the conversation, when you burst her comfort zone, she'll start stepping away from you as you step forward, and there's where you stop for the time being. If you do it subtly enough, she might not even notice. She'll just subconsciously start moving away once she's reached her comfort zone without really recognizing what you're pulling. But even if she does notice, so long as you don't continue to creep forward after she's established that barrier you'll be fine, she won't think anything more of it.

>>18650226
With the right personality and if you've already established this sort of jokey friendly relationship, it can be cute/funny.
>>18650180
I don't want kids myself really, I like children in small doses, but even I would be turned off by someone who was mean to kids or just hated them with the core of their being. Even though kids are annoying at times, you have to understand they are kids. They're literally retarded and still need to be taught how to function like a human being (now if these "kids" are 12+ thats another story). You can't be too hard on them while they're still so young and stupid. I get more pissed at their parents than anything.

>>18650581
That's a reassuring point. I'm going to give her some space and play it by year because this almost feels like a test. I honestly think some of the shit I said to her probably pushed her away i.e. how i enjoy her scent on my clothes when we're away from each other. Yikes..typing that out is even cringey

why do girls find me attractive but I don't consider myself good looking at all? I always look at myself and just assume below average.

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So, we broke up, like, two months ago. Now I have to see her everyday in university. I acted like a child after break-up, like, I refused to be friends of hers and politely disappeared, which is one hundred percent great and I should have probably kept going on, she said it was a mistake, other blabbery, but then I basically poured my feelings onto her. Later I also, as you might say, cut my dick off and handed it to her, i.e. told that I miss her.

I later agreed to be friends, thinking that she might be a really good person to be friend with, yet my feelings of resentment is just intolerable. I am literally thinking right now she's jumping on cock carousel. Would it be OK if I meet her IRL to tell that I am not interested in being friends, or I just have to keep distance from her, acting indifferent? She sometimes texts me asking how I am doing. What do I do in this situation?

>>18650516
>>18650551
Is it in these days of social media? I'm not sure because I don't have instagram or facebook. I'm not official with her, but I wouldn't have a clue if she was chatting with or seeing someone else.

Anyway, I have no clue how they know each other. I was just creeping her instagram and saw he commented on her latest thing so I went to check him out on a third party instagram site and noticed she's liked a ton of his pictures going back to a year ago but he's only liked a couple of hers.

This is confusing and I should've never looked at it.

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Girls:
What sex position feels good for you?

>>18647751
i'm into plenty of kinky shit, i just think you're trashy if you make loud sex jokes when we're in line for a movie or something. same applies to guys who make lewd ''jokes'' to the cashier who's stuck dealing with them. i think it's perfectly acceptable in a more private environment.

>>18650615
that's the kind of thing you can say to someone after you're actually dating them for awhile, not a literal teenage virgin who is probably equal parts interested in you and terrified of you. you need to determine if you think you might actually take advantage of this girl and cut yourself off if you think you would.

>>18650626
wow it's almost like attraction is completely subjective and people typically hold themselves to unattainable fantasy standards

>>18650632
just fucking tell her you don't want to be friends, what kind of bullshit is this? can you imagine trying to be someone's friend when they secretly resent you?

>>18650664
it probably means nothing, she either knows him and just likes every picture of her friends by default or she thinks he's attractive.

>>18650667
-Doggy /w face down
-Standing /w legs around hips
-On side with legs together
-On side with top leg braced and outstretched.

Once she gets really into it, she likes cowgirl too. Just enough insertion to allow the tip to kiss her cervix without pain. That'll probably vary, though. Just my experience.

>>18650626
What the other anon said + poor self esteem on your part. It blinds ya.

Is it a common thing that when girls get into arguments with they boyfriends over, they just proceed to insult their boyfriend over irrelevant things instead of trying to fix/discuss the actual topic/problem at hand? If my girlfriend and I run into issues she just tries to emotionally attack me, swear at me, and insult me, so I just ignore her until she calms down. My friend says his girlfriend will do a very similar thing, she'll just berate him over unrelated stuff. He said last time they got into a fight over some shit that was happening at their house, and she just started insulting his intelligence because he doesn't have a degree and she does (though hers is a general arts BA; he has a diploma and works as an electrician and makes more money than she does but that's besides the point).

Is this a common thing among girls? If it is, why does this happen and why do you do it? Not sure about his girlfriend because I haven't really asked, but my girlfriend always feels so terrible after doing it and starts crying saying she's sorry and all that shit, even though it happens every time. What gives? What should I do in this situation? I tried reasoning, fighting back, but patience seems to work best. Obviously this is just one side of the story so I'm sure there's some shit that's setting her off that I can't think of, but in a general sense - why does this happen?

tl;dr: why do girls in arguments with bfs just insult/yell at them instead of trying to fix problems

>>18650564
This one is easy. You gain her trust by applying assault cuddling. Tldr get her to some private place (netflix and chill?) and pretend you are huge stuffed harmless teddy bear and then tease and cuddle her.

Girls are as horny as boys in certain situation and if you will be gentle, playful, smile and persistent enough, she will go crazy for your skin contact. And remember, if she were really uncomfortable, she would not let you to cuddle her in the first place. Start by making out, heavy kissing, petting, touching her various body parts. Once you will manage to make her cum via clitoris stimulation, she will be all yours.

Just take it slowly. You dont have to win the battle in first netflix and chill battle. Just slowly push the boundaries. Sooner or later she will crave your skin contact and dick on her own.

>>18650626
You as hetero boy cant really rate your own attractivity.

Guys, can you give me insight on the daddy daughter fetish? Why does it appeal to you? What if your girlfriend has been playing along for a few years now and she finally tells you she's really not that into it?

girl i'm dating does not initiate anything sexual

> always have to start the kissing first, she will kiss back after when my face is close
> have to guide her hands to my dick

you get the idea..

Is this normal? I'd like it a little bit more if she just takes the lead as well.

>>18650917
>Guys, can you give me insight on the daddy daughter fetish? Why does it appeal to you?
It's more of a girl fetish really. Maybe stop going after Chads whose dad beat them?

>>18650938
>dads beat them
So it's like a paternal thing where they want to be better than their dads, but also fuck hot young chicks?

>>18650948
or rather, be better than their dad BY fucking hot young chicks?

Femanons

How to tell my girlfriend I'm not as into the rough stuff as she is.
Biting my dick and teething the Fuck outta me like a 14 yr old virgin giving her first blowjob doesn't turn me on as much as she thinks.

>>18649549

He's a deadbeat. I know of him.

>but even if she was crazy, it doesn't matter. She's perfect as far as I'm concerned

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>>18650917
Me personally did doesn't appeal.
My father treated me very fair throughout my life and I deeply respect him, his advice and they things he gave me.

The fetish is basically brutalize me. Like intro to BDSM with less whips and more hands on. Cursing slapping, calling you worthless etc. My dad never did that so.. It's really hard for me to play abusive dad

>>18650917
Relationships are about mutual trust, respect and good communication. Just tell him. As far as i know, calling your lover daddy is girls kink mostly.

And honestly, does it really bother you to play some role in bed? What about find a compromise and sometimes have a sex as you wish and somethimes as he wishes? What is your kink femanon? Or are you totally vanilla?
http://mojoupgrade.com/

Tldr dont be afraid tobtalk about anything with your partner. Even if you manage to shatter his ego, you can still rebuild it together and be even better couple after.

>>18650931
Yes, we call this starfish syndrome. Some girls are just shy or conditioned by society to never do anything naughty. With time and practice you can corrupt her to some degree. Try make her to do cowgirl position. That should have some results. Slowly and surely teach her some rituals about sucking your D, strip tease, giving you unexpected hugs and handjobs, you get the idea. Teach her what to do and hope for best.

>>18650972
If you plan to marry her, sooner or later you will have to learn how to communicate well with her (unless you want to join divorce statistics). Simply tell her in peaceful tone and see her reaction.

>>18650989
I'm with you, but the fetish isn't always played out as abusive, slapping and being called worthless etc. My boyfriend just likes being called daddy and doing "naughty stuff" with his "little girl." I think he's just into the incest fetish in general, sometimes he plays "uncle" and we gotta keep it a secret from "daddy." I thought it was kinky at first but now I'm bored and a little disturbed, and want to tell him I'm not as into it as I thought I was.

>>18647737
Why do women always try to have their cake and eat it too? More specifically why do women always try to get the best of both worlds in a situation where it simply can't happen and then act pouty and throw a fit when they are asked to compromise and make a choice.

Yes, I know I sound /r9k/ as fuck right now, but I swear to God every woman I have ever met has demonstrated this behavior. My mother, ex-girlfriends, friends, co-workers, etc. I can provide specific example if asked.

Call me a typical /r9k/ 4channer all you want but I need to spitballl with other anons. I really don't understand the opposite gender at all.

>>18651063
Can you give some examples?

I guess id like advice from femanons but Im good with either gender

I work for a black guy that's ghetto but makes lots of money (you might know the type). the job sucks but pays well and its getting me through school.

but my boss likes to work with other ghetto people and they come by the office all the time.

I'm explaining this because there is a fucking creepy black guy that comes by EVERY DAY to sit at the front desk and talk to me.

its obvious that he wants to flirt with me since he always says things like "you're cute" and "ill miss you when you go" or "what kind of guys are you into?"

he's like 48 years old and raggedy looking (25 yr old white femanon btw), and everyday it just gets worse. I'm not being molested or anything but its uncomfortable.
now I dont know what to do, since I would hate to make a scene and even if I did, he's good friends with my boss so I'm scared it'll come back to haunt me. also, my boss is an idiot and I wouldn't trust him with a personal problem like this.

tl;dr my boss's friend keeps making me miserable. how should I deal with this?

>>18650886

you're dating a shitty person

but I guess you could try to fix it,
next time she does it tell her its not fucking fair that she gets to belittle you when you are trying to talk things out. (this is assuming you dont argue this way back)

I'm gonna be honest with you anon, there's a lot of women that do this. mainly because some women are dumb and they think men can take that sort of treatment.

>>18650917
I think its the appeal of "being a man" and taking care of someone who depends on you 100%, including sexually.
Personally if my girlfriend told me that she wasn't actually into something I thought she was I'd just feel sad that I wasn't pleasuring her as much as I thought I was.

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>>18651092
>there's a lot of women that do this
/thread
Can confirm, if i had to guess, i would tell 80% do this. Femanons are emotions first, logic somewhere in the end. I deal with it by simply picking up the battles i want to win. Who cares she is wrong, in most cases you simply let her believe / live the lie and pretend she is right.

And if you really want to get some fact through, you need to hug/soothe them first. Unless they feel loved/respected, nothing you will say will help. Probably the best tactic against such behavior is to simply leave the scene once she starts.

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>>18651063
Idk same reason every single man I've ever met are the same way.
>Because shit people are shit people. It's not a gendered thing.

>>18651100
>that picture
This is so retarded. I'm not going ot put up with your childish shit because "I'm a women lmao XD". I know plenty of mature, levelheaded women, it is no excuse to act like that.

>>18649970
Amongst the list of things that I have to say is that I'm not gay. I tried that, penis just is too penisy.

>>18651072
Here are some at the forefront of my mind:

1.) I ended my first relationship because that ex didn't want to have sex at all, was a horrible communicator, and kept threatening to kill herself if I left her. The first time I attempted a break-up, I tried to let her down very gently by telling her that our relationship was having problems, and I wanted to end it and date othet people because she refused to talk or even address the problems we were both aware of. She seemed to take it pretty well and I thought it was a successful breakup.

A couples weeks later, she starts acting like she's my girlfriend again (saying I love you, calling me her boyfriend, acting lovey-dovey, asking me for money, dates, and to help her babysit). At first, I let it slide, then I said to her:

"Sarah, quit your bullshit. We broke up and you are well aware of it. You don't get to pretend and reap the benefits of a relationship without actually putting work into it. Either you're my partner, and at the very least we can communicate and hash out our problems, or you're not but you don't get to call me boyfriend or get any of the benefits. You can't have your cake and eat it too"

Then she didn't talk to me for a couple weeks, calls me up during her finals saying she's going to kill herself because she's failing school and that I hate her. I call her on that bullshit as well, talk her down until she's more calm. Then she says "So you absolutely won't date me if we don't have sex"

I said "Yes. I won't be happy and I can't compromise on a sexless relationship. I am willing to go to coupla therapy or sex therapy if we can work it out"

Then it finally clicks, and she breaks up with me, completely ignoring the fact that I've essentially broken up with her multiple times at this point. Haven't spoken to her since.

>>18649970
Social events net me nothing, my friends don't have friends who know females, the internet has always failed me.

>>18651104
I won't put up with crazy either.

>>18649577
24
Not really. As I get older I find myself more attracted to "womanly" figures such as larger thighs and a decently sized bust and less attracted to smaller, more petite girls.

>>18651100

femanon here

in my experience, its more common for women to be shitty than men. (dont pay me too much mind though, I grew up on 4chan so I'm probably biased)

but its not 80%, its more like a solid 65% that are shitty. a lot of my girl friends treat their boyfriends like shit, but thats like a 2 out of 3 girls that I would actually call my friend.

my advice is to find a girl who is not sociopath and actually cares about treating people correctly (this goes both ways).

if a girl is very much in love with you, you probably found somebody worth while

>>18651107
Second example:

My sister is low-functioning autistic and has a lot of behavioral health issues. Like punching and kicking us, breaking furniture and things in the house for no reason, screaming at the top of her lungs for no reason. Having massive panic/tantrum episodes for no reason that can last hours. Every doctor we've seen is a quack who doesn't help at all and keeps trying to change her medicine which never works or helps us at all.

My mom was able to score some medical marijuana from my brothet to give her to calm her down. Mom seemed cool with trying this. She gave it to my sister once, it worked perfectly, and Mom hasn't given to her since then because Mom feels guilty about giving her weed because it's weed despite it beig the only thing that has actually helped my sister not be a raging lunatic.

I tolder my Mom "Well, you can either feel guilty about giving her something thet actually helps or we can continue to put with her destroying the house and punching us every night. If the weed was a pill in an orange prescription bottle, you wouldn't give a second thought or feel guilty about giving it to her. You can't have the best of both worlds, that simply can't happen in the given situation. You can't be free of guilt (unless you get over it) and also give her something that actually helps her. You have to make a choice. You can't have your cake and eat it too."

Frankly, I think she's acting like giant pissbaby that would rather wallow in her own sadness than actually take steps try to fix any of the problems in her life.

>>18651063
That's an overall human thing. Pure selflessness doesn't exist. Just look at all the deadbeat fathers who can't be arsed to sacrifice their own time to put up with the worst parts of child-rearing.

>>18651107
>>18651126

this is weird anon, but ok.

no this isn't a common thing. your ex is crazy and your mom is just trying to make her life easier but in the end felt guilty about giving her daughter illegal drugs.

this is another example of "you're surrounding yourself with shit people". not all women are going to have a "have their cake and eat it too" mindset. logical people will not live their lives this way. (again, your ex is crazy so this does not apply)

to fix something, you have to work. simple

now, if you want to argue that ALL women are not logical then I guess we can go there...

>>18651107
Ok so the first one had clear mental issues and you expected to be able to break up with her without her mental problems exploding? This would happen for ANYONE with that severe of a mental illness
>>18651126
Given what you've described, your mother is breaking the law. That's pretty fair to be concerned about and guilty over. Get her her own medical pot script and not steal from her brother's.

You kinda sound like the pissbaby thinking every choice is easy and wanting the best for your kids is "having your cake and eating it too". It's just basic parenting.
Also I think you're just lazy and want to give up on finding a solution. You want the very first "solution" to work because then you no longer have to put in any effort.

If your mom risking getting her kids taken away and going to jail is really the "only" option, then I'd say she has every right to be anxious about it and you should be a better fucking son about it instead of telling her "You're a fucking pissbaby mom get the fuck over yourself you're retarded."

>>18651146
I feel like I'm at a loss because there is no alternative. We've tried dozens of different medicines, treatment, and doctors over the past 20 years and absolutely nothing has worked. The weed was the first day in years where she's been calm and happy. Are we just supposed to put up with her being violent every day and going nights without sleep? How would anyone find out about the weed unless somebody snitched or she got piss tested? She's probably never going to hold a job.

>>18651174
>>18651146
As for the ex girlfriend, I made that choice because I knew I was never going to be happy with her and wasn't going to stay in the relationship just because I was afraid of her reaction when she was effectively trying to keep me hostage by threatening suicide.

>>18651174
It is a tough choice, but are /you/ going to take the fall should she ever get busted? Are /you/ going to be the one to tell the cops /YOU/ were the one providing her with the weed and your mother had no idea?

Talk to the doctor about how you think weed would help her, say you've done some research online and you think it would be worth trying. Convince the doctor to give her a legal prescription of her own.

Because otherwise if doing shit under the table illegally is the only option like you think it is, then you cannot sit here and shit on your mom (and the entire female gender at that) for being anxious about it. She's looking at a pretty serious offence, your brother too if he's over 18. Even if the odds are low she'd get busted, it's still pretty nerveracking knowing at any moment she COULD get busted and go to jail. Have some fucking sympathy anon, she's not trying to "have her cake and eat it too" she's just weighing the fucking risks of "if I go to jail then NOBODY will be able to take care of my daughter"

>>18651188
Yeah and again, she was batshit crazy and had signs of severe mental illness. You cannot sit here and say she was crazy because she had a vagina and not because her brain was fucked up.

I know a girl who went through the same fucking thing, took her 3 years to fully dump her ex bf because he would ACTUALLY attempt suicide whenever she did. She was summoned by the police once because they thought she had attempted to murder him before he fessed up and said it was a suicide attempt.
People with depression, anxiety disorders, personality disorders, are crazy. It's not shocking. What you have between your legs doesn't dictate if you're crazy, your brain makes you crazy

>>18651205
So then hypothetically speaking, what wouls be the ramifications if somebody found out? Trying to do some googling but having trouble finding information because of how specific the situation is.

As for the legal ramificaitons, none of us have ever had discussion about this. If at any point they did, I was left out. For context, my mother and brother have been the biggest stoners and advocates for marijuana their whole lives, why is why I nevr understood why she's been anxious until now.

>>18651228
You're providing an illegal substance to another person, making you a dealer of sorts. You are abusing a prescription drug (or at least your brother is). And your sister if caught, since she is an adult, will be charged with consumption of an illegal drug. She probably won't be deemed to stand trial, but it will fuck your whole family up.

She's probably just anxious because now it's involving her kid. If your brother's got a legal prescription that is different. Your sister does not though, it's one thing to smoke pot herself and deal with the legal problems that come from that, it's different to give your mentally impaired sister illegal drugs when she can't even take care of herself. It doesn't even sound like your sister has the mental maturity or capacity to even understand her own life and situation. She may be an adult but given her disability it's like giving drugs to a child.

>>18651252
I really don't know what to think anymore (fem)anon. We've tried talking to her doctor about medical marijuana but he's a total idiot and the discussion only ever amounts to him saying "uhhhh I don't know anything about marijuana at all".

I feel like this whole situation is just one big "haha fuck you, all of you can just deal with it and it will never get any better".

>>18651263
Then you find another doctor? I had to go through 7 different gynecologists before I found one that even knew what vaginismus was. If your doctor is not finding you solutions, you find a new doctor.
If your mechanic was not fixing your car, would you keep bringing your car to them?

I understand you're stressed and frustrated, I really do. But taking that frustration out on an entire group of people r9k style isn't going to help anyone. You gotta be able to put yourself in others shoes like this, your mom isn't just wanting perfection, she's literally just weighing the risks both legally and ethically on this and doesn't know what to do.
What you see as her wanting her cake and eating it, she might just be choosing to put up with her behaviors because she does not believe the weed is going to be the best solution for her. You may disagree, and that's fine, it's completely fine to disagree, but you have to understand her standpoint mate. Because your mom's probably questioning what kind of life your sister can live if the only way to keep her from acting like an animal is to essentially sedate her by making her be stoned 24/7 just for your own convenience. Is her quality of life improving with the weed, or is it only yours thats improving by not having to put up with her behavior anymore bc she's stoned out of her mind.

Go doctor shopping, I'm certain there are some weed friendly doctors in your area, all you need to do is convince ONE doctor to humor you, as soon as they give it a shot and they see the night and day difference in her behavior it'll be fine from there

>match girl on tinder
>get a date set
>notice on tinder she changed her bio and added looking for bomb ass dick.... jk
>texts me before the date saying she isn't looking to sleep with me

Is this some shit test and should I try to fuck her anyways or what?

>>18651364
What, did you think a girl on Tinder was looking to seriously date?

>>18651110
Where have you been so far and how many strangers (both boys for friendship and girls for dating) have you talked to there?

You give up too easily. Finding your life long partner is a hard work and luck combined. What are you willing to sacrifice to find qtie girl who will give you babies?

>>18651174
To be honest i would end her suffering.
(Nah, i am too coward to actually do that, but you get the meaning)

>>18651364
Sounds like she is looking for actual bf (contrary to what >>18651365 said)
and this is simple test where she witholds the sex in order to see if you will stick around. Stop thinking nonsence, dress nicely, put up smug smile face and go to date the bitch.
>you have nothing to lose by going there except few hours of your life and virginity

But the real question is if you are willing to actually date or you were just looking for casual sex.

>>18651379
>this is simple test
This is not "a simple test". It's a highly pondered scheme. Why do women do this shit?

How do you know when a guy actually loves you/cares for you?

>>18651402
Because if we fuck you on the first date and that's all you were after we get screwed (literally and figuratively) and you get everything you ever wanted and can now pretend we never existed and move on to your next lay.

By saying "I'm not gonna fuck you until you commit" that weeds out all the dudes just wanting a pussy and not the whole woman.

>>18650667
Depends a lot on the penis, but I normally like doggy style and reverse cowgirl the most.

>>18650886
As a woman I have to say a lot of women do this. They (we) do it amongst ourselves, too. As I got older, I managed to filter out these idiots from my friends, so I mostly hang out with other broish/reasonable/chill women, but there aren't many! It's quite frustrating. Worst is when I have some social obligation, like dinner with coworkers and their wives... And I would hear the wife argue in some completely shitty way, and I cannot put her back in her place cause it's a colleague's wife. I try to avoid these social situations, but still. At least with friends' girlfriends and wives I can jokingly shut them down when they get bitchy.

Oh and you know what? A long term boyfriend broke up with me earlier this year, I quote: "I think you don't love me enough. My friends tell me their girlfriends always start drama over small things, and they argue over bullshit all the time. You always keep it reasonable, I think you don't love me." I was fucking speechless, tears started pouring right away. But yeah, apparently there are guys who expect these petty arguments?! I'm still not over that guy, although at least I can officially hate him for being so reliant on others crappy opinions.

>>18651414
I doesn't weed out all the dudes who give a fuck about waiting a couple of dates to trick you into thinking they care about "the whole woman" while fucking every bitch that comes across their path behind your back.

>>18651107
Oh cripity crap, you're surrounded by seriously ill people.
Get out if you can.
I mean, there are mentally ill people everywhere, but these seem some creepy cases.

>>18651402
>scheme
Well, i am boy and my end game is having 3 children with my wife who will allowe me to cuddle her from time to time in exchange of sucking all my cum, money, sanity and free time from me. But in this i am minority.

They need to score husband and pop few children before they hit the wall around 30. So they will employ every weapon they have including
>"accidental" pregnancy
>pretending to be girly girl
>pretending you can make them cum
>pretending they like sex
>emotional blackmail
>crying
>coercion and manipulation
>9999 mind games
>backup men
>monkey branching
And so on. The only safe way is to never stick your dick inside them :-)

>>18651408
If they are honest, simply ask them. And if they are not, why would you date them in the first place?
>you cant date somebody you dont trust, so hope for best and trust your gut?

>>18651421
>>18651414
The never ending chicken. Whatever bullshit test you ladies invent, we boys will evade / pass to get into your panties :-D

>>18651416
That doesnt sound like his true reason. If i had to guess, he simply decided you arent the wife material, or simply found newer cheaper sexier model.
>maybe he was a bitch all along?

>>18651421
99.9% of those dudes give up after a month of no sex, guys just wanting pussy do not have the attention span for that shit anon. There are billions of thirsty sluts out there that are much easier, as you've said. They will just fill their schedule with whores and forget about you.
Wait until they say they're willing to be your bf, then you've got a winner.

>>18651431
If you waste your time on years of dating just to get 1 pussy, the only real loss is you mate lol. Frankly, if the dude spends that much time effort and money on me just to fuck me once I'd laugh and be ok with it. He lost out on so much shit when he could have been banging chicks night after night.

So go ahead, "evade" the gate of "you have to be seriously dating me and living with me before you even see me naked" just to get 1 girl. It's pretty sad you'd bother.

>>18651433
No girl would respect me if I waited that long to get sex from her.

>>18651445
then no respectable girl would want you.
One not just looking to jump on every dick that walks by would still respect you. Just depends what you want, a decent human being or a chewed up piece of gum covered in the jizz of every man within a 100 mile radius. Enjoy your used goods.

>>18651445
Can you elaborate a bit? How will you lose respect by going on dates with girl, doing all the classic escallating moves and not having sex?

I mean she will either want it too and then you will end up in the bed anyway, or she is testing you and you would lose respect by proving yourself as patient (or trustworthy)?

I dont understand?

>>18651437
You are saying it like i am one of them. And are you telling me you wont allow sex to happen until one year of dating? How old are you?

>>18651457
Probably, maybe longer. I'd wait as long as I needed to in order to ensure he's not just gonna dump me as soon as he gets what he wants. I can only give my pussy to a dude once, then it's worthless. Have to make it count.
Probably wouldn't bang anyone until we're living together and have some sort of shared finances or legal work tying us together. A scammer won't get that tangled in and risk losing his finances over pussy. Only dudes willing to be that patient are legit. And if they aren't well I can at least make their lives hell as they try to back out on the lease and untangle their bank account from mine.
So however long that all takes, however long it would take you to feel comfortable enough to merge everything you own with another person.
I'm 21.

Women:
1) why are you all incapable of feeling actual love? The way a man does?
2) Why are you only interested in chads and physical appearance and SMV?
3) Why do you ride the CC? Why don't you have any morality?
4) why do you settle with beta simps? Why do you lie about love?
5) why do you wear makeup? Why are you so insecure you think you need to fake beauty?

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Good thing this thread's getting a lil old, the obvious b8's starting to roll in,

>>18651462
>can only give my pussy to a dude once
This sounds like r9k but female version?

Honestly you sound a bit crazy to me, the part
>shared finances
sounds very strange to me. Maybe you should tell them you wont do sex before marriage. And at that point i would bail too.

Good luck on your plan unless you are bait.

>>18651495
Its just the fact of life, dudes don't like sluts other than just for fucking. If I give away my body to anyone who scams it out of me then I'm devaluing myself, and while most scammers are lazy there are the small minority that go for the long con, that was my first "boyfriend".
I was retarded when I was 16 and almost ruined my life. He dumped me abruptly after 9 months just when I was about to fuck him and told me the truth that he was a "virgin killer" and got off to devaluing women and knowing he's taken all worth of the women he's been with. But he said he gave up on me, I was just too hard of a sale and moved onto the next girl.
I came so close to basically death itself I vowed to be as cautious as I can. No guy is going to take my value from me unless he's worth it, and I won't give it until I at least have compensation if he does bail immediately after.

Marriage doesn't exist anymore nor does it matter. You can just get divorced with the snap of a finger. So there's no point in that.
If I get scammed even after he joints his finances with me and lives with me, I'll make his life hell while getting out of all that junk, then kill myself and make it clear in my suicide note he's the direct cause.

Because I cannot live after that anyway. I no longer have anything to give a man and I'd rather be dead than alone.

>>18651529
I would have trouble sleeping tonight if i believed your story, so i will rather presume you are bait.

In a very rare case you arent, you should have know that girls have other values and uses apart from the virginity thing. Peace!

how do i stop lusting after women that are unavailable to me?
>women already in a relationship
>my sisters
>taylor swift
none of them are going to happen but i can't help myself

Women

How would you feel if a 5'7" (170cm) guy approached you?

>>18651573
>Talking to men shorter than you
shiggydiggy

>>18651547
It's a true thing that happened. Like it or not.

And I have yet to see a guy go on about anything other than not wanting a slut who's fucked a billion people. They all say if she sleeps with you on the first couple dates she's no longer "wife" material, just a fuck friend at best.

>>18651416
>IF YOU REALLY LOVED ME AND WANTED MR YOU WOULD GET EMOTIONAL AND ANGRY WITH ME REEEEEEE

This has to stop

>>18651431
>>18651416

Yeah, I assumed he just wanted to try some new pussy or something. It couldn't have been cheaper unless he got a sponsor, I was bringing in just as much (if not more) money as him into whatever we shared. He didn't straight out lie before, and so I think my tears had more to do with the fact that I realized that damn, the person who had been the most loyal and closest person to me for years doesn't trust me enough anymore to speak his mind. We were really open and honest all the way, so it spoiled a lot of things for me. (Eg. started questioning whether he was really all that honest... Which is stupid, he really was, it's just he chose some dumb ass way to 'free' himself again.)

>>18651614
I know.... I was quite destroyed after that. Not only because it sounded like bullshit (while he was really nice and open every single time before), but also because... "Crap, is that why other girls are whiny ass bitches? Like do I really have to act like a manipulative idiot to be in a long term relationship?" Etc etc
Unfortunately it was a really healthy and nice relationship before, and so that ending really destroyed me. Had he been an asshole-ish from the start, it would have been easier.

>>18651570
It is called masturbation anon.

>>18651573
Approach 169cm or shorter girls. Consider moving to asia / dating asia girls.

>>18651602
Yeah, but your requirements for a boy are overblown as fuck. Marriage is still very huge gesto. And btw, you can sleep around a bit without consequences. Hell you can even claim you are virgin when you are not. You can lose hymen at sport, or some girls are even born without it.

It is true nobody wants slut, but you can lie about body count easily. Ease up on the requirements. The no sex? Annoying, but doable. The living together? Douable, but i cant imagine living with sexy girl while she still denies the sex, it would feel like torture or as she doesnt find me attractive at all.

But the shared bank accounts sounds super scary. I cant imagine sane man ro go this far to prove himself. Also the trust should be mutual. How can you ask so much for so little? And really, virginity is mainly social construct. And landing husband in first reationship is very rare, almost wishful thinking like >>18651618 said.

>>18651618
Femanon i am sorry, but that simply couldnt be the real reason. He got bored of you, got scared of commitment something else. I cant imagine boy acting like that. Simply impossible?

Went on a date with a girl, I told her I am physically attracted to her, we kissed and I said I am getting a semi, by the time she put her hands in my pants I went flacid, she asked if I have a problem down there.

Isn't it normal for us guys to be flacid when on a date even if I am attracted to her? I have no problem getting hard when I know there's some action but sitting in a restaurant?